T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrutusNero Tech: Hey guys :) is there a way to teach my mapper to open doors on the way to the chosen room ? I mean i have passdoor most of the time, but some doors need manual opening T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: mapper help T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardaliases.html T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: beat me T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrutusNero Tech: thanks ! T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: top tip - do not run fork bombs with mushclient open. it dumps NULs in all open xml files when it can't open pipes anymore. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrutusNero Tech: sounds like fun :) T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I just realized I love programming user interface stuff I spent five hours last night just writing a comphresive main menu/pause/options and inventory menu in Unity3d and it was a lot of fun weird right? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Make sure you back it up, because all the scripts I wrote back at r6 got blown up in a hard drive crash and now I get to rewrite. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: but i'm not complaining. world needs good UIs T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: I regularly zip it and ship it between PC's, so i've only lost a couple of aliases T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: luckily the scripts combined for all the GUI is only like 500-700 lines of C# code so that big a lose T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: not that big* T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I never needed to make daily backups, but now I do, since china is making everything now, which means that everything is utter garbage T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: just like china itself T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the GUI scripts add up to a total of 15kb T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: am I old if i prounce C# as see pound? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: It's see hashtag T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: that is how I read it, Moolb T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I just call it Charp T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lizza Tech: I read it as C Sharp.... T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: I just call it CSharp T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: it's c sharp (sometimes called CS now) T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: c sharp is such pretentious crap :P T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: but since when is a # sharp? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: think music T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: exactly, pretentious 'creativity' T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i know nothing about music actually T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: I mean it's objectively better than C++, but there are better languages now T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: C# is a lot better than pascal which I am forced to use at school T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: well in musical notation, the note C sharp is represented C#. Technically it's a slightly different symbol.. which I doubt I can use on here, but it looks about the same, just on a different angle. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: yeah it's usually represented in italics when available (it's not available most of the time though) T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: it could always be worse than C++ -> C# T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: Moolb - I always read it as C crunch T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Ha, that is new T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: none of my friends are really programming inclined so I never really have to pronounce it T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just think it's pretentious to call it 'c sharp' when no programmer in his right mind calls '#' a sharp sign. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: if you want to talk musical notation, go play the tuba or something T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Yup! I agree T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: how about "fence" :P T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how about we just call it C "whatever floats your boat" T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: or C "Twitter" T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: how about we just call it java.net++ T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: c tictactoe T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: https://github.com/lhartikk/ArnoldC T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: I'm confused... why is it pretentious crap to call something what it's designers named it..? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: Dolt funny T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it's pretentious crap to use a symbol when you intend it to be pronounced as a word T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: like OSX T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: the files are saved as .cs :) T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Everything Apple is pretentious though T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: damn C+ and C++ then too! T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: The name "C sharp" was inspired by musical notation where a sharp indicates that the written note should be made a semitone higher in pitch. This is similar to the language name of C++, where "++" indicates that a variable should be incremented by 1. The sharp symbol also resembles a ligature of four "+" symbols (in a two-by-two grid), further implying that the language is an increment of C++. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: that's so deep and philosophical T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: it almost looked like a revelation into the key of the universe or something. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok that kinda makes sense Dolt never thought it that way T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: why don't they just increment the letter by one, and call it D. oh wait, some pretentious person did that. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: tell you what, you design a programming language... and you can give it the most dull and boring name you like. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: but then I found it was, in fact, just pretentious crap T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: do you give python shit for all the monty pyhton references too? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: I don't think it's pretentious, they had to come up with a name, and found something that suited. Your complaint is basically "I didn't know # could be a sharp symbol, so I don't like it" T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: python, even. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no, i give it hell for not ignoring whitespace T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, I knew about the sharp symbol, but # isn't it T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: starling must HATE email... I mean, using a smybol you intend to be read out for something... T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: yeah it's changed for simplicity's sake, it'd be pretentious if you had to write it with the proper sharp symbol T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: actually, I do hate email T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: email, the original thoughtless way to communicate with people T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: but text messaging is worse imho. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: you mean, the the @ was implemented, a revolutionary communications advance... T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: when the. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You stoned, son? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: things with the micro symbol in their name suck pretty hard too. kinda glad MS didn't do that, at least. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rapturous Sunsoar Tech: yep, waiting over a fortnight for a message to cross the Atlantic, BRILLIANT! Who is pretentious now? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Your mom. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: my old uni emali server sometimes took 4 hours to shift email from one inbox to another. internally. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: s/emali/email/ T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: i have a question about updating mush if anyone has got a moment T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saradyne Tech: what's up Furen? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: well, first where is the most recent update and second will it erease what I have in the way of macros and such T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saradyne Tech: if you copy it on top of the same location, yes.. check out the page on the website, it has upgrade instructions there :) T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: Mush website or Aard? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: for the instructions T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thank you much T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: how do i get the bup check to work. have the url loaded into browser like the instructions say but it still says it cannot check it. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Tepeyollotl: what version of bastmush are you running? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I bought a couple SMARTRAC Midas NTAG203 NFC tags. It looks like making your own NFC ring is suuuper cheap and easy. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: another FF update :< T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akavir Tech: FF? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: firefox T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: i updated to 29 yesterday T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akavir Tech: oh T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: is it good or does it suck? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: had to fix my theme and stuff like that, was annoying T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: Nuuuuuuuuuuuu ... they remove the status bar T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: oh im so glad they did T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: frees up space! T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: most of my other add-on needs the status bar T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: but you can still use it. in the top left T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: grr... anyone know how to use FF 29, i want to set my status bar (status4evar addon) on the bottom but i can't move it from the top right T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: there is an addon Classic Theme Restorer, idk if that will help T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: is there some reason they changed the appearance? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just another ... "we know what the customer wants" T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Anyone using iPhone with Skype? if so have you had issues with the other person hearing your audio on their end? T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: like its super super low T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: 2hrs and almost got FF29 to look and feel the way i want.. ... T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm not looking forward to the upgrade T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: i'm glad i dont use ff. T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: the most annoying thing (for me) is having to addon a status bar addon and having to get used to the "new tab" button being on the hard left/right hand side T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ctrl-T avoids that ;) T3/r7/2014-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: now i'm waiting for some of my addons to update to 29 T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Anyone around? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saradyne Tech: maybe.. >.> <.< T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: I got web root with my windows 8 and it keeps resetting my mush client I have to open a world again everytime. When I have it running with mush on mush wants to go extremely slow. I keep having to turn it off... Any suggestions on how I can fix this? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: has anyone made a mush moons plugin T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perlma Tech: anyone here experienced with coffeemud? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: 'It was ground this morning.' T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ezkai chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perlma Tech: good one T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perlma Tech: my question about coffeemud has to do with the main ini file if anyone knows about that sort of stuff... T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perlma Tech: basic help is hard to find when it comes to muds T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: anyone know how to 'cancel' the bast hunt trick in mid hunt? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: hta T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I mean ht a T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: found it... its bh stop T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: what is ht? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: well in much it's hunt trick abort T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: looks like a social T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I thought you meant search and destroy in mush T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: oh, nope lol. bast hunt T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: i still haven't tried search and destroy yet T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: i just use mapper T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: How's bast compared to snd? Snd works pretty good for me T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: bast just does the hunting, saves on typing T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: not sure about snd T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: never used it T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Just got a Samsung Galaxy Express 2. Trying to find information on how to place music on an SD card and have it play in the built-in music app, but finding nothing on Google. Is it not doable on Samsungs? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: it doesn't autodetect your music? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I haven't yet tested just placing music on my SD card. I guess I should try that first. Wanted to know if there's anything special you have to do with your SD card first. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rub it on your face T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: long as your phone can read the microsd it should autodetect supported formats T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: there shouldn't be, but it may depend on which music player you're using for which folders/formats it looks for T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Can I place them in subfolders? I'd rather not have to have 1000's of songs in the root folder. *off to test the phone with 1 song in subfolders* T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Works like a charm. Dammit, Google. Just wanted to double-check so I got it right on the 1st try and instead I get no info because it's a n on-issue. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so i bought a new laptop charger online for 20$ and it works! but now my computer has troubles when it is charging, the USB ports on the left side do not work, the touchpad does not work (if i plug my phone into my computer that does not work correctly) and i think its even affecting my wireless card, is this an EMF problem or too much current going into the system? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds bad T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: were the output ratings identical? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why did you buy a new one for? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: because the old one stopped working T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: what is the rated voltage input of the laptop? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: does the out of the power supply match? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if the supply is not identical you could be doing irreversable damage to your laptop :) T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i dont have the old charger anymore so i cant really look =/ T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: google it T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: google the manufacturer T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: the information is almost certainly available online T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, you've probably fried it T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: or it could be the problem initially was the charging system onboard the laptop nt the charger T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: everything works 100% when i unplug it (actually the touchpad is not acting up today =/_ T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I would stop using that power supply now. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it could be an incorrect or faulty charger, could be a faulty charging circuit T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: just not enough current/voltage to run it. find the right one. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You need to check the voltage out from the power supply, and the voltage in that the computer needs, and verify that the two match T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: and current needed also. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (and that it is supplying appropriate current) T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (and also, if it is a smart supply, that it is appropriate) T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: the specs are the same T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There could be some nasty ripple in the DC out from the supply then, i.e. defective supply, but honestly, hard to tell T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: cheaper switching power supplies frequently have ripple in the RF range, which can disrupt things T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i did notice with the original power cord it was all protected, this one is not, maybe ill just charge laptop while its off and pick up another charger T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: the OEM cords are often RF shielded T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what was protected about it? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: des it have a balun? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: does it have a balun? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: the wire from the brick part to the computer (when it broke off) it was shielded T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ie the little mouse in the belly of the snake thing near the charge end of the plug? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: in any case, if that supply is causing that much disruption and you T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: are sure it's the supply, I would quit using i T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: hard to say how long your electronics will tolerate out-of-spec ripple current or heck knows what else. Especially if it cost 20 bucks then it's guaranteed to be chinky chonk chinese junk. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the original was probably chinese, that isn't the whole thing lol T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like the Targus power supply unit I got to replace a laptop supply whose cord went bad... never an issue with it and the power brick doesn't even get warm. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have an igo i just dont have the HP tip for it anymore T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ebay T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: yeah, you could probably buy one T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i think my igo was starting to go bad also ... im hard on my laptop chargers lol T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: you should stop using them as snow chains T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: they might last more than a week. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: the igo lasted me about 4 years, 2 of which i was homeless T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: laptops/laptop chargers are designed to be weak, feeble and break T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so dark T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't go hard on yourself T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: all electronic are... cause if they were made to last, the company's would loose more money. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: precisely. trez doesn't get it ;-) T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: consumer electronics are designed such that 90% of them will live out an extended warranty T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for most laptops that means 3 years T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I sit my power supply on a steel block to act as a heatsink T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: this lappy has been with me since dec of '12 T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: it does noticeably reduce the temperature of the supply T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: otherwise it runs quite hot, which can't be good for it. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: they are not generally "designed to break". They are however designed as cheaply as they can get away with. Makes no difference in the end, but that's how it is anyway. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: isn't 3 years enough tho T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: designed to break === designed for cost rather than reliability T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: my dad has his laptop in '07, i5 core, and still runs T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: barely on windows 8 T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hell no, if it don't last 10 years it's junk T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i had my celeron-m for 7 years. then it just started to run very hot. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: games make you buy new ones :( T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: impresive given the i5 didn't come out til 2009 T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: then it was probably 2009 T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TrEz chuckles politely. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my GF is going to school for mechanical engineering with a focus in thermodynamics, so once she does more of her thermo classes ima have her make me something to help with overheating *nod self T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just get a couple of peltier elements, you'll be fine T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: she'll shave the world! T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye I know what she could do T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: save* T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: best thing to do with a laptop to make it run cooler is turn it off and get a desktop T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I prefer giving it a liquid helium bath. T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a tad extreme T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: an ssd helps some, but it's the cpu/gpu that causes most of it T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: when i can afford to build my desktop ill switch to one T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: desktop + tablet seems to be the weapon set of choice these days T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well unless you play games and travel :( T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I love my tablet for mail and movies tho T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Got about 10 minutes to see if there's an easy fix. Basically, dual boot computer with linux and windows, and whatever percent volume windows was last using, that's the max that linux will go up to. (So if windows was at 50%, linux at 100% will be half its potential.) any familiar with this issue? T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiyaran Tech: Can anybody think of a reason why my prompt would show up *before* a room description? (I'm using TF for reference.) T3/r7/2014-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiyaran Tech: I fixed it. Kinda. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: what was the command to set mark a room as start of area with mapper? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: xset mark T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: It's Winkle's T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: using winkle's extender. extender help will tell yu T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mmm, Microsoft caved in, realising that hitting a button to "build" the IE8 fix for Windows XP would cost less money than the bad press surrounding the hundreds of millions of users getting infected T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: glad to see that someone there isn't completely retarded ALL the time T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: what is the wildcard for writing triggers in mush so where anyword that comes up after your pierce fires my trigger Your pierce T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: has to be 1 word only or wud T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loree Tech: depends if you're using a RegEx or not Milthian.. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Your pierce (.*?)\! \[(.*?)\]$ T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loree Tech: you can also use (.+) to capture everything, or (.+?) to capture a word T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: Regular expressions are SO straight forward. :) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .+ will capture a lot more than a word... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and note the number of things that can come after "your pierce" in "help damage verbs" T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's missing a couple of the high-end ones (intentionally) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: I want to make it so after my pierce I warcry how do I do that T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: you don't T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be a bad thing to do T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Confounded CeriQ Tech: You're going to warcry ALOT. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: who even uses warcry.... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I had to check the helpfile T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would prevent you from fleeing, it would spam warcry a bunch T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: please use a proper paladin spell T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: feel free to send me a tell with what I should be doing then as I am new and am clueless T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like warcry, you just don't want to trigger on using a combat spell/skill from your melee T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he's level 157 T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: using a level 50 skill T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: based on str/con T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it prolly hits twice only :p T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doh T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milthian Tech: I am new feel free to lend a hand with suggestions on how to play paladin T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: use abomination T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc was wrong or misinformed? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he said he likes the skill, not that it's good for the guy T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice try, turie :P T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Milthian you should ask the dudes in your clan, it's supposed to be a newbie helping clan T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: look at allspell paladin combat and try the highest level ones you can use. Often they'll be better. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really I'd just make an in-game alias to use your combat spell/skill, or use a macro in MUSHclient (then just keep mashing F3 or something) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, upgrade to a more-levle-appropriate one T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: all paladin combat T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is what you type, and slap hadar for not helping you T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loree put kick on 7 on the numpad.. needs to look at upgrading that now though ;) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye macro is good idea T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mommas Boy Devol Tech: i have 6x apocalypse on my numpad 7 hehe T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ctrl-shift-2 on mush I think T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: send to world T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or game -> configure -> macros T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I have one samsung galaxy mini s3, can I run aard there? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if it's android you can T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it is android T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: yes its an android, system 4.1 T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then you can, download the blow app T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also they say there's a new beta version of the app, not on market, that has lua T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: well I am new about this, can you lead me about all process? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you download the app via market and install it T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: wich one app? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knitastic Kharpern Tech: blowtorch T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: downloaded blowtorch, now? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks a lot for the tips to install aardpack in android, so another question is possible to open office docs too? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: hello there T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: anyone reading me? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: 5x5 T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: here is my problem, perhaps you can help: T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: my character is constantly trying to cast something. for example, i get the message "they aren't here" when i move to a new room, and also T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: "you can't cast while resting" when i give the rest command T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: what clent are you using? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: i use the spellup command often as well as aliases T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Check if you have a trigger set somewhere. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: how do i check that? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: a trigger is the most likely cause T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Also might be helpful to enable echocommands. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: For sure. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: shift+Ctrl+8 T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: nothing in there T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: what plugins have you loaded? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: i am not sure what you mean by plugin, i just downloaded the mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Then I'd guess a mudside alias is off somehow... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: i occasionally log in, from the same computer, using flash T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: The client as provided by Aardwolf, I guess. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: And there are no such problems on the flash client? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: actually haven't checked that T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: i will check if i get the same issue on flash quickly T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: should i also try to unalias? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Just look at alias - see anything under there with re or something? or something that aliases TO c something T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: yes there is lots that alias to c T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: everything in fact is something like c 57, c 171, etc T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd still try echocommands - it'll tell you exactly what the mud is recieving. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: those are going to maybe try to cast spell 57, cast spell 171, etc T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: yes, when i typed "rest", the mud is receiving "rest" and "c 577" T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: c 577 is one of my alias T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: ok what is going on now... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: i unaliased everything T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: now, when i type say "rest", my character rests and doesn't try to cast something. But my screen now gives me a whole lot of prompts. Stuff that looks like this: T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: %h/%HP %m/%Mmn %v, etc T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: my screen is showing "Regular Game Prompt", "RawColor Game Prompt", "Regular Battle Prompt", and "Rawcolor Battle Prompt". All of these have strings next to them which reads something like %h/%Hhp %m, etc. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: do you know how to fix this? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: from "echocommands" i can tell the following: when i type "rest", the mud is receiving "rest" and "p data". The "p data" is printing the prompts on my screen. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a mudside alias for p? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: the reason why my character was autocasting the whole time was because "p" was an alias with string 'c 57'. therefore, it was "c 57 data" ' ing the whole time T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and are you running the latest aardwolf mushclient from: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage ? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dont use single letter aliasses T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and make sure p is unaliased mudside T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: when i do certain actions, like "rest", the mud also receives the command "p data" from me T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: i typed unaliase p T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: i have no more aliases T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: turn your prompt off with "prompt" and then reload the plugin Aardwolf_Prompt_Fixer T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: after the plugin goes through it's thing, you can uninstall it, and then turn your prompt back on T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: thanks, where do i get that plugin? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is already installed, that is the plugin that is doing "p data" T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: ok, so just in the directory on my pc then T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you don't need to know where it is, just go to File->Plugins, find the Aardwolf_Prompt_Fixer plugin and hit reinstall T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: did not fix it T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "p data" do you have a %c at the end of your regular game prompt and regular battle prompt? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: it is reading at the end of each of the four lines the following: >%c >%c >%c >%c T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: %c, followed by a %c T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: sorry: %c followed by a %c (at) (w) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, then just go to File->Plugins and remove the Aardwolf_Prompt_Fixer plugin and turn back on your prompt if you use it T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: it worked, thank you T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: is your name "Bast"? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: My character's name is Bast, my real name isn't Bast. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lies! T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Like Bast in the Kvothe kingkiller series? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsunwu Tech: thanks again, just wanted to know, typed a compliment on the newbie channel T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, I have had this name since 2003, like Bast from the Dragonlance book "Brother's Majere" T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: oh yeah, i read one of those books. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: if there are multiple same mobs in a single room, is there a way to find your cp mob using hunt trick? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: in that situation, use the "kill them all" trick T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: slit or something similar has the same restrictions as hunt, without the long-range ability. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's only called the hunt trick because the Hunt command is being used as the example. The hunt trick doesn't actually have anything whatsoever to do with Hunt. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok thank you. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: Hi, I can't see what I'm typing in mush, need a little help to set up a command line or something... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Wierd, should be at the bottom. Try resetaard, it'll set all your windows back to defaults...might do it... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I'll try T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Otherwise mouse over the bottom and should be a input bar above the task bar. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Drag it larger T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: nope, ther isn't anything like that... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Has there ever been? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You downloaded from Aardwolf.com right or the one on the git site. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you download standard mush or the aardwolf prepared one? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: hmmmm....found the command line....it's in the very bottom of the window lol T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I have a big resolution and didn't see it sorry :) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: why dies my mush repeating the line "No one in this area by that name."? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Likely you have a trigger or alias firing where... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yeah, seems like it.....so?....:D T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I haven't set anything up yet T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You didn't download any plugins or install any alaises? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do you have any aliasses? Either client sode or mudside? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: If you haven't creating anything client side - must be a mudside alias you created that you are firing, type "alias" T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: no I haven't installed anything and the aliases in the game should't affect that... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do you have any aliasses? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: on the mudside yes T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: good. Did you alias p? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: 30 T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: They could for sure, if you alias p causes all sorts of issues. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: no T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: it seems the line is appearing with every tick T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: or when I run around clicking on the map T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: type echocommands - what is the command being sent? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: "hunt stills data"? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you have p aliased to hunt stills T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: type alias p. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: why did you say you didn't have p aliased then? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and you just said you hadnt aliasses p? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Excellent question Xoxa :P T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dont use 1 character aliases T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, sorry about the dumb question, but does the client actually take over the aliases in the game? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: anyway, that's what the issue is. you can either unalias p, or change the plugin to send prompt and not p. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: oh....it sends some prompt command with p... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: the client sends commands to the mud. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: mudside aliases are a command. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, some other 1 char aliases I should keep my fingers away from? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just dont use 1 character aliasses at all T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: do numbers count? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: is a number 1 character? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: welll....maybe..... T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I got it :) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: thank you :) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: alias a automap T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: done T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is it possible to set the command line so it remembers the last command I entered? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: game configure - commands - check the box for auto-repeat command T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ty :) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: how do i turn logging on in mushclient? Do i just specify a file and it will automatically log to it? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Are you talking about auto-login on connect? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh sorry, I can't read T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Press alt+3 or Game->Configure->Logging T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is that all there is to it? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: why don't you try and see? :P T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: nothing is being written to the log, but idk if i have to close the client or something first T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You might have to close the client, I don't really know T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for future reference, if a person's mushclient is breaking because of a "p" alias, they are using a very old version and should stop using a very old version. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i crush the p alias, fyi T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: patch your shiz people! T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: How old would it have to be? I was under the impression that Remps had recently downloaded it. :\ T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech} Scars Tech: 99 bugs in the code, 99 bugs in the code... take one down, patch it up.... 127 bugs in the code! T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let me check T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: if that's happening to you, you need to pick up a book on how to program T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: sounds like IE T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech} Scars Tech: today must be no-humor saturday, my bad, didn't get that email T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech} Scars Tech: i'll just my junk folder T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just means you just don't have the time to actually be a programmer and are leaning heavily on third-party authors T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the prompt updater plugin was changed to use "prompt data" instead of "p data" on Feb 04, 2013 T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: What plugin is that under? Prompt fixer? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: worlds / plugins / aard_prompt_fixer.xml T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I see it in there. Weird, though, you'd think more people who just downloaded MUSH would not have this problem. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Yep, anyone still remember ZMud? .. classic T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: yeah loved zmud T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: still have license to both T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I think they stopped supporting that 12 years ago or something T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still have a zmud license. The license doesn't stop working. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: still a great client though T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: too bad he took your money and ran T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: gmud for the win T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't use zmud anymore of couse T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: course T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ZMud/CMud aren't custom clients. Aardmush is effectively a big brother of the Simutronics Wizard. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: well, i was using zmud for here about 7 years ago T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: now aard has a great cliet in mush T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i used zmud for gemstoneIV, dem bots T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: yeah, my first aard character (99-03) .. all I used was ZMud, and Rapscallion when I used a Mac T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: aard must get a fancy html5 client. or it'll be doomed in 5 years or so T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I also used rapscallion back in whenever T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hwuaijijal: make one plz T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no u! T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I don't think zmud supported compression so you had to get a special app to tunnel through T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: fiendish, you are making anymore plugins or just maintaining the current aardclient? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: or you tell me what to type and i copy your lines from tech channel T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Askani: have any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wrong, ZMud didn't support GMCP. It's always supported MCCP (or, rather, it's supported it long enough that there's probably no current players who actually remember when it didn't) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: how about a market mini windown plugin? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: window T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mostly I add features and fix bugs in the plugins that already exist in the package. Bast also has a set of plugins that he supports T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what would it do? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: keep a update what on market, what coming to an end, etc.. a reminder .. that kind of thing T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think the intent of the market window idea is more about multiple and similarly-customizable comm windows, instead of keeping all channels in one window. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Navi Tech: Anyone familiar with synclient settings in linux? Currently having an annoying mouse issue when if my palm is on the left side of the pad and I touch the top of the pad it activates some command that switches between recently used windows, wondering if anyone knows what setting that is so i can disable it. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I suppose you could just dupe and configure each instance, though. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I do have instructions for instancing multiple comms windows with custom channel settings for each. I don't think that's quite what is being asked for here T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: is it possible to move the status bar in mush T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which status bar? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: view->status bar T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: don't think so, Rauru. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: move it? no T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh man T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just had to restore my mapper db from backup. I'm so glad I added that backup mechanism T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: spilled some coffee on it? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have a full mushcopy always:) T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: i use spideroak to keep my db ont he cloud T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: it's been useful T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: a dropbox alternate if you don't want to support war criminals. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my harddrive is fine, so I don't need remote system backups or anything. just the automatic copies the mapper makes for itself T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean, obviously it's fine until it isn't T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it's still fine T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: I can't paste into MUSHclient for some reason, but I can copy.. Anyone know why? T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Also I have to open my world everytime I open it now insted of it opening on its own. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: OS adnd/or hardware troubles. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: It's only Mush though T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chew Toy Detreyl Tech: I can paste in mush. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: As bad as it might be, even Windows can take a ton of punishment before finally giving up the ghost. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: It's a brand new computer T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: which probably doesn't mean jack unless you turned it on for the very first time only a few minutes ago. T3/r7/2014-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Less than a week ago, only playing Aard on it :-/ T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: anyone else experiencing their aardmush client freezing up periodically? Where your commands going in are ignored but you continue to fight and see conversations T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fi-Bot Fiain raises her hand. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Dunno what causes it, except mines not mush. :P T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: you're on your phone, so different animal.... but could be the same cause maybe? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Maybe. You see everything normal but your commands arent going through, right? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Yeah, that happens to me.. I dunno why though. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: if i'm in agroup and they're fighting, i keep fighting (my auto attacks) but my spells don't go through....or my says or anything else T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: And you disconnect/reconnect to fix it? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: yeah T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Yeah, same... wierd. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: trachx recommended turning off triggers - and that did work, but sometimes it would take a minute to catch up - it was faster to d/c r/c T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: and I have a friend who has only a few triggers, but his does it, too T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: *nodnod* T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: when mine happens, I'm just doing normal stuff - it's not like a bunch of triggers are firing either T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: I'm not sure, honestly,what the issue was. I thought it was my client.. Yeah, same. I dont have many triggers actually running at any time, so its not thst. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: so - anyone have any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: oh that happens to me - i'm pretty sure it's my internet connection though T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: But it happens the same to a lot of us? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: but it doesn't happen to everyone....so it would make sense that it's our internet actually T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: True, true.. My internet isnt the best. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: I suppose it is odd since it only started several months ago, but I have satellite broadband internet so i don't expect much T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: yeah, mine just started happening the past two weeks T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: It started about a month ago for me. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: so...we all need to go yell at our internet providers. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: sorry, looks like I am the spreader of the disease then! hehehe T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: it's okay, we forgive you T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoot Tech: aww, thanks :) T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Speak for yourself. :P (love you zoot) T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: america, where the goverment pays billions to to telecom to build infastructer and never gets built.. good times T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zoot snickers softly. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: however you need to slow down on the gqs...other than that you cool =P T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: probably a script you have T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: Fiain is on her phone....no scripts T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: i've tried disabling scripts and it still freezes T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: phone connections generally aren't stable unless you're very close to a tower T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: or with verizon T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: verizon has the best coverage T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hey, anyone who plays league of legends, does anyone know how to fix the client when every button is showing as undefined, ? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ezkai goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: have you ever repaired your client? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im trying to now T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: mate of mine just repairs his everytime it acts up, which seems to be much too often T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: silly league client T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but it took me a bit to figure it out tho because all the named buttons show as undefined T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: so the play/profile etc buttons? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes the play button and everything in the options menue is all showing as undefined T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and the repair didnt work T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: really? grr.. i would suggest just replacing the client T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: but that might take a while T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh managed to fix, i did a restore to back when i resinstalled java runtime environment T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: wtf ... 2G coruppted files... T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: how do I clear an xrt because it's going the wrong way T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't know what that is T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: i don't think you can "switch off" an xrt T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: something part of that is wrong T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: for example, you cant xrt to heroes because there is no clear path T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: so you'll have to find out T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: i'n trying to find out how to fix that T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: which area is it having the problem? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: call of heroes T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that would probably be because the entrance to call of heroes is a custom exit. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: yup, that. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: so you have to go to the room where you do the cexit and imput it T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: so what room is the entrance before the cexit? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: so I can look it up and see if I can fix it T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: another xrt takes me to the lizardman instead of entrance to fverume T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: find the speedwalk? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's in the aylor temple, near the Ravi place. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes, try regular runto, and get to the room, 'decide your fate', then do xset mark. and retry with xrt T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's also a room north of the CoH entrance that has a couple of custom exits (jumping over some hedges), but I dunno what that's for as it doesn't let me in. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: negader that won't work if mapper doesn't know the cexit T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: from recall, run 2n4wn then mapper cexit knock door T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hmm, latest version of firefox is a bit ropey, that's a huge shame T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: Can I change the ansi colour of one particular chat channel? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: in mush client?? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sure help colorset, it's a mushclient option. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's a mud option T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Sorry it's not a mushclient option....it's mudside... T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanellus Tech: - that changes all colours,, I think T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: does not. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you can change it by channel T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that's why you were referred to help colorset T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's there to teach? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: everything T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do you map a random maze? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do you map a random exit maze? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it can, but I keep getting told the pet can be washed away. I've never actually had that happen the whole time I've spent there (both for mapping purposes and general activity there), so I dunno if some personal characteristic (ie, I'm flying) is allowing me to bypass that feature. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: its flying. when i lost flying i got affected by the currents. but how do i map a random exit maze in GMCP? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you dont T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Censeless Anaristos Tech: you don't T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: so i have to make my own personal map for random exits? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I do it in CMud's mapper, and the technique I use can be equivalently applied to Mush. All you need to do is take notes about which rooms connect to which other rooms. In this way, you can build a specific path needed to be taken in order to get to a specific location of interest, all without ever worrying about actual directions. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, use a dice to draw it T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: mapper note this room leads to 119, 112, and 115? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Dice) Tech: Bobolai rolls 1 die with 20 sides - total dice roll is 7. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can then use additional scripts and in-game features (ie, summonable pets) to follow the path--and subsequently return to the path should you venture off it. T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: and stop spamming 'clearbuttons', please T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: (enables dot command processing) T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: additional scripts? T3/r7/2014-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: informational ones, like telling you the GMCP number of the next room or giving a warning when the room you entered was NOT the next room on the path. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: so my laptop is saying "The User Profile Service service failed to load the logon. User profile cannot be loaded" what can I do fix this? /: T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: win8? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: 7 home basic T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aini Tech: sounds like your profile is corrupt.. what happens if you restart? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: restarts normally, says the same when I click on the profile. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aini Tech: can you get to a webpage? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezkai Tech: nod. will logon to the guest account T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aini Tech: before you do that, bounce it in and out of safe mode once.. then try logging in normally T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uux Tech: if I had 5 aliases.. f get dagger bag, g get sword bag, ect.. how would you change the word bag for chest.. in all aliases? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: client side aliases? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Uux Tech: mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: can anyone tell me while I was doing CPs, just happend i am getting these messages: Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: x T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Try reinstalling your winkle plugins, I think T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: now I am getting a 5 line error after reinstalling T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Which is? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: Run-time error Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8 (called from world: o)Function/Sub: xcp_index_line called by trigger Reason: processing trigger trg_xcp_line"no such table: areas T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: [C]: in function 'nrows' [string "Plugin"]:364: in function 'get_rooms_areas' [string "Plugin"]:328: in function <[string Plugin"]:318> T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: you need to reload areas table to use winkle plugin I think T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: relogin will do that T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: I'm no expert, but did you reinstall all 3 winkle plugins, and did you get the usual indexing etc messages that you see when you login etc? In any case, reinstalling all the plugins and rebooting your client may work T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: relogging didn't help T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: and yes, Hilgen -> reinstalled all 3 T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: it seems like i can use xcp c now but now all my mobs are red... i find that strange cause I nearly had 80% places mapped T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: could it have deleted my mappers? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: That sounds pretty terror and have no idea why that would happen. Did you do anything big before this? Reinstalling and relogging does not usually affect stuff right T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: I think I by accident hit CTRL (push-to-talk in a program) and some key. some window popped up but closed really fast again so couldnt see what it was. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is it possible to manually add noport/norecall flags to mapper rooms? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I recall asking someone why and getting a decent answer - but don't think ther is a way other than echo in the room. Where message is themessage you get when you try to recall in a room T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: whats the file called that holds your cexits etc? i find it strange that all my mappers are gone in an split second T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Oh yeah the reason they gave was that there was a locked door. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Aardwolf.db....but don't play with it with Mush open. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: There are backups of it. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: forget that, i have a workaround. it's just annoying. thanks guys T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: there are? honest, i'm a derp to computers. its just annoying that 6 months of mapper cexits, portals etc are gone T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Firs tstep - close out mushclient entirely - backup the entire folder into a zip file...then there should be backups of the aardwolf.db file inside the folder... T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: The backup is just in case you accidently copy over something.... T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you do mapper purge cexits or something :p T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: no clue T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: That asks for confirmation. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: just happened while I was CPing, I was talking to a guy on Mumble (Push-To-Talk is CTRL) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: something popped up but closed before i could do anything (maybe I hitted enter?) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Well just grab the backup...I think it does it daily so shouldn't lose much. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: so, I got this message every once in a while (quite frequently), "Sorry Vienna, I don't understand you." T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: it's like I entered commands or something T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can toggle on echocommands to see what it is T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: is there any log where I can find what did I do? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: so why am I always peeking data? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: faulty script? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: any way to know which script enter 'peek data', it's getting annoying since it always pops up every 10 seconds or so T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: depends on your client probably T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you download scripts or something T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: I'm using mush, and yea T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What did you last install plugin wise? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disable plugins you installed T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You can turn tracing on - but it's super spammy. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: lots of bast and some winkles T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it's happening every 10s should be able to identify the plugin quickly T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disable half of them, see if it solved, disable half of that half, etc T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: how to turn on tracing? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: I'm also interested in other stuffs, so it'd be helpful T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Try CTRL+SHIFT+T or it's in the menu...forget... T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: No it won't be very helpful - it's very spammy :) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's so spammy i never found it helpful T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: But should help you find one specific problem. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: Allright, seemed like Menda couldn't help me. Anyone good with WinkleWinkle, Purging, checking for old cexits. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: Found 0 targets matching '%fighting the river%'. < I had that mapper 20 minutes ago in Anthrox T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: ~~~ 1 the triton - 'Fighting the river' is Unknown < all my mobs are like this now T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: i had the same problem. i reinstalled snd and it worked fine T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: I've reinstalled 4 times now.. also all my mapper portals are gone T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aini Tech: is it the database in the mushclient folder that's the problem then? try overwriting it with a copy from the db_backups folder? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks obama T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: I tried overlapping with old .db file but I am not sure if I did it correctly or what not T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: but it didn't do the job T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: muschclient: is it possible to move the text input box? cuz i'd like the main window to be located at the center of the window but the input box should be below it. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: mush* T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: so what does aard_prompt_fixer plugin does exactly? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: my earlier problem comes from that apparently T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aini Tech: it adds %c (carriage return) to the end of your prompt, so that the health bar picks up your hps, etc correctly? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: I currently disabled it for now, though I don't know how vital that plugin is (since it's bundled officially) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vienna Tech: I'll keep it disabled for now, thanks for the help T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: I'm on an hp mini with 1gb ram wubi ubuntu 12.04 never used linux before on gnome-mud. Hows that for super newb? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's good, wubi is nice T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: Yeah, not bad... T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although, my dad is quite happily using my old ubuntu laptop T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and he's managed to a lot easier than Win8 that he's got now T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: It's running a little smoother with this lxde thing installed... T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: lubuntu? is easier yes T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lxde looks nice T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: Sure does. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lxde-qt looks even better T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: I'll check into it, thanks. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: Anyone know of a mud client for ubuntu that supports triggers? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: tintin T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: Thanks, Bode. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: but i though mush also worked on linux T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: mush would work with wine. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: I'm actually having trouble trying to install wine, working on that now... T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glispion Tech: Also since i pilfered around gnome-mud I found the triggers section. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohan Tech: anyone available to assist me T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: that is a little to generic T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohan Tech: for some reasone all my plugins for mushclient has stoped working T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namolloh Tech: so my triggers dont work. i got a new laptop and downloaded mush again. im not sure if there is a setting or what im missing. any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohan Tech: reason* T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: try reloading them T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I would imagine you'd need to import your script file or whatever. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohan Tech: i did that and restarted mushclient but still nothing T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: follow the section on the aard site on updating the client, Namolloh T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namolloh Tech: is there a way i can test the trigger? its a simple one to drink whenever it says im starting to feel hungry T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Game>test trigger T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: "echo" your hungry line T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I was removing plugins in mushclient and I think I removed too many of them so I tried to load them again in ...world/plugins but it messed up and it's showing that I have 10 times more plugins than before.....what plugins are enabled in default? or any other options to get the system working again? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namolloh Tech: didnt work T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namolloh Tech: wait nevermind T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namolloh Tech: workedon test now ill wait for the real deal T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Remps you can always reinstall mush T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yeah. but then I loose my map, don't I? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: or can I save my map file or transfer it to somewhere else until I reinstall it? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: copy the mapper db T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: that means?..... T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: copy Aardwold.db file in the main mush client folder. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: copy Aardwolf.db file in the main mush client folder. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that means what you just said. copy the mapper file somewhere else and copy it back after installing musg T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I do that, is there a way to save alises, triggers etc as well? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: The aardwolf site has a section on updating the client. It covers all that. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: right mouse click the main window and click "world config" , find the proper window on the left and click save. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I'll try to find it T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I'll try to find ittech thank you :) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: thank you :) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to put it somewhere during the change, just unpack the aard MUSHclient separately from where it is now...both folders can coexist just fine...that's also nice so that you can go back and forth between the two to compare changes (when you're not doing it because it's messed up) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does anyone know if the sim card chip can be read if I take it to the cell phone operator T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if the plastic is destroyed T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You'll just have to take it in and see T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: the actual integrated circuit is probably potted in protective resin, so it might be ok T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's fine, I dunno if they can read it tho T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hopefully none of the IC leads are damaged, but no way to know unless you take it in for a check. Or see if it works in your phone, I guess. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm asking if they can read it without using a phone T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hope you're planning on a significant charge T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You're asking the wrong people, we don't have a card reader to test it T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not a card reader you need if the card's destroyed T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm asking if a reader is what they would have, not if you have a reader T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: what happened to the card, anyway? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nevermind I don't want to talk about it anymore T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm trying to think of what would need to happen to damage a SIM card that's installed in a phone... did your kid get ahold of the phone and light it on fire, or ... ? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Does anyone know why I can't paste into MUSHclient? I can copy out of it but not paste back into it. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ctrl+v works fine for me T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: how are you pasting? (you can right click, ctrl+v... T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Well, I can after disabling my antivirus, imma give them a call :) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: calling your antivirus? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: It was the antivirus! :P T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: MSNBC (Chris Matthews): You're a racist if you oppose raising the minimum wage T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops mischan T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Apple users are racist. There you go, context corrected T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for trez, yes, cell phone places usually have standalone SIM card readers, and you can buy them for your computer as well...how well it'll work with a mangled card would of course depend on the style of the reader and the nature of the mangling T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he probably had it put in the microwave by an irate victim..uhh.girlfriend T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I just saw "Nuts" "Microwave" and "Irate girlfriend" and am disappointed by the context after looking into it. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was it racist? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I don't.. think so? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Quick look over there! http://youtu.be/qU0eIAQQLII T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Hey :P T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Soooo... The antivirus left traces of an issue. Everytime I open mush it opens a vanilla client and I have to reload the world. Any suggestions to stopping that? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Kill it with fire! T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get rid of the antivirus T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is it, anyway, and what platform is it on? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Webroot came with Geeeksquad tech support. They fixed my Webroot issues. I have 2 clients, Enchantra's client opens just fine.... because I disabled webroot everytime before opening it, learning from my mistake. But I have to load Codex's world everytime because it opens into a vanilla client. So now its a client issue. T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: nobody has ever had that issue? :( T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: I can copy.paste into the client now :P T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never heard of such an issue, but never used that software T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: suggest wipe/reinstall. Slate and pave. Nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: I fixed it once before, not sure how :( T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Im not gonna wipe for a client issue :P T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: if you had a virus the only way to be 100% sure its gone is to wipe T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably quicker than farting around T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: even then its iffy T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: espeically if it there was some type of persistence mechanism that invovled your bios T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: if a fresh install of your client isn't fixing the issue you it sounds like who ever fixed your box probably dorked around the w/ the regisistry T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: which means that there could be a never ending cycle of one-offs T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: codex: file -> global prefs, worlds tab T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: Thank you Abelinc, these other techs should be fired :P T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: You can't fire me! I quit! T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: well you said "geek squad" and "web root" i'd wipe anything either of those guys touched :) T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Codex Tech: lol T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: how to parse the consider in mush? T3/r7/2014-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for parsing consider in mush, try something like http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8847 T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: anybody here use blowtorch? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Sometimes. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: i can't seem to get the on screen button sets to work T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: What do you mean? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I tried using it on a tablet, but I found the typing painfully slow T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: the on screen "N S E W" buttons, appear there, but you need to press somewhere else for it to work...and it usually results in a flip rather than press T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: any idea what's goin on? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: What's your screen orientation? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: landscape T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: can't even see the buttons on portrait T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Check the settings, there should be a setting that says toggle something T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: using a note 3, so i dont think its an issue with the screen size T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: i tried blowtorch for a few days, after that i just gave up mudding on the phone. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: you can try disabling screen slip on your phone itself. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: i still do CPs on it, though it's harder that way without being able to see the map while the keyboard is up T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: screen slip? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: screen flip i mean T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: with SnD, blowtorch is sosososo bad T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: bamboo, what options are there to be toggled? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: what SnD? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Hold on T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: SnD helps you become a gq/cp bot T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: what is SnD? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: short for search and destroy T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: i cp/quest/gq like mad upon my return to aardwolf lol T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: OH LOL T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Type .togglefullscreen T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: yes...you can't SnD well with blowtorch...it's like turning off your other senses just to use one sense T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: if you have to get off your comp... i think you should just take a break from aard. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: probable except is like hour double. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: probably exception T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: since lvling is more brainless T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: using blowtorch for brainless levelling is easy T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: thanks so much bamboo! T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Does it work as intended now? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: very very well! T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: Hey everyone -> Yesterday I had a problem where all my mapper cexits went missing, all my portal directions gone. I tried putting in an old .db file in the Mush folder (replacing the one there was) but it seemed like it didn't work. I am not sure if I got it in correctly, since I am not very good with computers. Do any of you guys know what I can do? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: did it have a different name to the .db that you replaced, if thats the case did you remember to rename it ? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: (It's all my SnD directions that are gone + portals) T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: There was a file in Mushclient folder called Aardwolf < it was a Database file. Then in Mushclient folder there is another folder called db_backups. I copied one from a month earlier (the whole name is Aardwolf.db Automatic_Old < i renamed that one in Mush folder to Aardwolf.db T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: It then came up with a popup that "Do you sure you want to name it this, it may not work" - > Hit Yes. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: But there are also files in MushClient called o.db-shm & o.db-wal - Do I need to fix with those? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i believe s&d only uses Aardwolf.db T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: did you log out when you put back your backup? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: yes, but i tried taking from the db_backups and copy (or cut) and replace it. I had MushClient closed at all times while making the changes T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: I play on different computors and always just copy the Aardwolf.db file between the to make s&d work... if that helps T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: but the current Aardwolf.db is bugged -> should I delete that one, put in from an older day (I have 2 days old, 3 days old, 5 days old, a month old) and then paste it in, rename it to Aardwolf.db? Cause I tried that without any help. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: A subdirectory or file C:\MUSHclient\logs\\db_backups\ already exists.copying db to C:\MUSHclient\logs\\db_backups\\eq.db.Tue T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: it seems like its not really overwriting T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Society of Utopia Tech: when copying the .db backup to mush folder it wouldn't work T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I' having a problem with bast's spell up -- it's spamming attempts to cast projection when it's still timed out T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone know how to update bast plugins without installing everything again? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i recently updated it by overwriting all the other bast plugins with the new unzipped bast plugins T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: before you do so, i recommend make a back up of your current one. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: did you lose any settings? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: no, none that i'm aware of. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I do it that way too. Just not while running mush. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: kk guess i will do that after next quest, thanks all T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hello everyone T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: answering mushclient questions for the next few minutes T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: my mushclient get the message conceringing the plugin sending chat to miniwindow- Run-time error- plugin aardwolf_chat_capture_miniwindow (alled from world: etd)- Function sub- OnPluginBroadcast called by Plugin Aardwolf_ChatPCapture_Miniwindow Reason- Executing plugin aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Mininwodow sub on OnPluginBroadcast {string plugin} 662 C aardwolf-Mud-Mushclientrl773-muschclient-logs-aardwolfchatlog-txt- permision denied T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Your operating system denied permission to write to the chat log. T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: thats strange, i'm using xp, doesn't usually have trouble with aard T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where did you put it? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: in c drive under standard mushclient folders T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you run out of space? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: post me the complete error message in a note or email T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ok T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: hoping to get a new puter soon, cross my fingers T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sending? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: is is possible to triger on a local side message? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: or trigger even T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's called an alias T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and yes T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: fiendish u still there? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dakavid Tech: how do i import my maps from MUSHclient on another computer? T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: aardwolf.db T3/r7/2014-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dakavid Tech: ok thanks T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raurke Tech: anyone use the app on phone to play this? am having trouble getting buttons made T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: long press anywhere T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raurke Tech: i hold down on screen and it just moves the log. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: hold still :) T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: might have to be in horizontel mode also T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raurke Tech: lol i am. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raurke Tech: hmmm maybe T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raurke Tech: still not working. oh well i tried T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: are there any differences between the blowtorch app and the aardwolf app? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: aardwolf app is blowtorch. however there may be a newer blowtorch version T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: I know aardwolf is based on blowtorch, just thought there might be some aard adoptions in the aard app? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone using google presentations? I am trying to arrange images within a table, but am having trouble T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: why do I keep getting messages like invmon and invitem in tags from mush? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: help tags, help invmon - you see those because one of your plugins wanted to see it T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yeah I understand that, but I have the basic stuff on mush, shouldn't it be gag'ed or smth? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not sure but those are default off, so something had to turn it on as you see them now T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and only things that could turn it on (except you) is some plugin T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like bast T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I had some bast plugins, but I reintstalled mush....maybe something left behind.... T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: thank you :) T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: hmm my status bar can't lock under the command input window T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: hmm mushclient isn't fully maximizing to full screen, there is like a small empty space on the bottom, anyone with any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: restart mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: already restarted like 4 times T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: define 'empty space' T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: blank space, a gap T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that much was given. I meant at the bottom of the client, or output window, or what? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: like a 10mm gap at the bottom of the mushclient window T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you disable status bar? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: no, the status bar move itself in the center of the mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: the status bar I'm talking about doesn't move, it's attached to the main window (not ouput windows). T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it's the one that says your connect time and number of lines, etc T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: click View and see if you have info bar enabled. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i'll try restarting the comp T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: hmm.. my xrt vidb isnt working T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: should it be abbreviated? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i dont think it has worked since i upgraded.. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: check to see if xset vidblain is enabled or not. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: probably not. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: doesn't work here either. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: how do i check xset? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: oh, type xset vidblain? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: works for me now. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: can't short cut that command, thanks T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: hmm guess it was my comp that was bugged, it wasn't just mushclient that was leaving a gap at the bottom.. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks obama T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: now... for another exciting day of qsitting..... T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is there a good (free) app to open ppts on a mac? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: convert them to google slides and never worry about downloading them again T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Yeah I've been using googles online slides T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: There are less features available, but its still quite nice T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Google slides is good for teamwork and access but otherwise it's pretty annoying T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does google slides load and store locally? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Nopoe T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Nope* T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: cant use it then T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: You can convert to PPT/etc T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: And download it, and then reupload T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: might need something else then... can't upload, etc T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i think microsoft makes a free viewer for the max T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mac T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is there something like an open office? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You can't use openoffice? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: openoffice works on Macs T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I could... I'm just not up to date anymore of what's out there T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: last time I used something like this was years ago with StarOffice T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: openoffice is much newer and more supported than staroffice T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: star office still exists? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: and libreoffice is even more up to date T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: like libre ssl? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: openoffice's current version was released less than a week ago :P T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Opensource projects don't die, they just stop getting updates :P T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ...for a while. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: POE is a bad idea. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what is POE? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: power of ethernet T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Path of Exile? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: some routhers/switches can provide low grade electricty to a device allowing you turn it on from the network T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: routers* T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why do you think that's a bad idea? T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: because if i'm in your network i can turn on your box T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I still don't see how it makes it a bad idea in and of itself. It just demonstrates that my security needs improvement. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: theres no such that as a secure network T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Seldeszar, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: at teh end of the day its not if your going to have a compromise...its when T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: and soo you should be posturing yourself for response adn containment T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: if as an attacker i can turn on and off boxes at will w/ PoE then containment is just that much harder T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: soo sure the idea is net hey i can turn on my oven from across town, but personally i think it opens up to many security concerns to be benefical T3/r7/2014-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: s/net/neat* T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: is there a 3 moon script for mushclient? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Tiger, Ophelion Tech: 'finger bast' T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: they are up for 7 ticks btw T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there an adblock for android T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: i use adblock plus T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for android tho ? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetch Tech: nod, you won't find it on google play T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: all vids spammed with 5 sec loud commercials lately T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: am I the only one having trouble with the bast spellup miniwin going black? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: it happens, i just restart my client T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: yeah that works for me too, but not the optimal solution :) T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what's a good way to upload / file share something like a .pdf and be able to share it by sending out a link? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: preferably anaonymous T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: dropbox? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bode Tech: anglefire still do sites? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: evening all. who here knows the basics behind program writing, including algorithms and pseudocode? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: what do you want to know? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You have a questioN? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aeb Tech: Anyone have a pup/level plugin they recommend? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: does anyone know if there's an aardwolf script out there to move gq npcs to a new window in cmud? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigole Bitties Tech: or know how to use capture to grab all the info? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: #TRIGGER {You still need to kill} {#WIN campaign} T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: change need to have, though. T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and anchor it. T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: could just #WIN the mob nmaes too. T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: is there a program for area building ? T3/r7/2014-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Not sure about that. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which sqlite version mush uses? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mine is 3.5.1 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you looking for an editor or what T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no, create table if not exists is available from 3.3 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: What is this insanity? mapper db got corrupted today, but every old backup I restore seems to be corrupt as well? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: You need to sacrifice an adult mpeg to the gods of disk integrity. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: You've angered them somehow. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: Oh man.. which one to choose!!?! T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: The gods of disk integrity have a thing for redheads and spanking. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: choose the red pill T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ZomBified Skyris Tech: is there by any chance a open public script that can track cp like sharptracker reports stats about quests? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: check my bastmush plugins at http://endavis.github.com/bastmush - There is a plugin named StatMonitor T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, the correct url is https://github.com/endavis/bastmush T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JazzyMoose Tech: is there an easy to follow guide for installing mushclient, aardwolfmudpackage and bastmud plugins anywhere? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: aardwebsite, bast website T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JazzyMoose Tech: and the bastmush website is the github url just mentioned? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes. in there it shows where the wiki is T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JazzyMoose Tech: wiki... ahh... i'll have a look again. thanks! T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JazzyMoose Tech: what's the command to reset miniwin locations? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: aardreset? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: or was it resetaard... T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on which miniwindow, what plugin is it for? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: winkles is in his helpfile T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JazzyMoose Tech: that did the trick for aard windows... i actually meant bast, but the other one was useful too... T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/FAQ has a I closed X, but there is a reset command also T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I need help troubleshooting my bluetooth headset. When I use it with my cellphone, I have no trouble. When I connect it to my computer and try to play audio over the headset, it is completely unusable - sometimes some sound can be heard, but the quality is useless T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what os are you using? it is probably a function of a crappy bluetooth stack or adapter T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ubuntu T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: also wasnt working on win8 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, probably the bluetooth adapter in your computer then T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: how to set up a trigger in mush to put something into a variable(with GUI) T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: use a wildcard and send to script T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: and where can I determine to where it has to send the info? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: into label? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: you'd use SetVariable("variable name", %1) T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I'hve put it in the send field and it isn't working...I suck at scripting...where should I write the setvariable? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: what is in your trigger field T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: atm just "test *" T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: try 'echo test ' T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: and now? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: that's what I was doing....but I can't figure out where to put the line of script T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: send field T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I'll try T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: well...nothing happens T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: it doesn't put it in the variable....should I have anything more ticked than enable and expand variables? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: and send to script. its probably not matching your trigger T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: you might need to go to Scripting and set it to Lua T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yeah I have it....when I change it to a regular expression, it tells me an run-time error T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: so I guess, it's not a regular expression T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: and it matches the trigger when I change the send to world and send the output to gtell T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ah you need two pairs of quotes in setvariable T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I try it in a sec T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: wheee!....I got it....thank you :) T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: ok, i installed the newest version of the Bast plugins and the update checker fails... cant conncet to the web page... but i can manualy, any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you new its the newest? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: sure* T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: unless a new one came out in the last few days. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: reinstall the updater? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: twice T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just to make sure, you copy and over-write the files while mushclient wasn't on? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yep T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i'm out of ideas, i installed bast updated version afew days ago as well, no problem here T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: will try a full reinstall, or just turn it off. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw, just went back through tech. what url does it say the update_checker can't reach? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: https://github.com/endavis/bastmush T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does the aardwolf client updater also have that problem? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: nope T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: one version did. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: but it works now T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: did you update again really recently? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: 11 days ago T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: r2094 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: maybe i got an older version then T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type: "plugins", what version are my plugins? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: looks lik 91 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: ..... T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what version of the aardwolf mushclient are you running? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: like 2091 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the latest release of the aardwolf mushclient had a fix for ssl support T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: mush is 4.92 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: r1797 is that latest release of the aardwolf mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yesi am on r1797 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: your on bast 2091? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yes bast 2091 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: time to get 2094 T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: yep. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: are there more then one site to get it from, could that be why i got an out of sync version? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: which site are you going too? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: not sure now. T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i last tried the one in the error message T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: bast, whats your site ? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: that is what is in his profile T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: https://github.com/endavis T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: sure buy a no save portal then have to log out :P T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you didn't have to logout, you could have just went linkdead T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: OK, so what the heck did cntrl+shift+T change to in firefox? T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: that sounds like a trap T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: reopens last-closed tab T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: or used to, at least T3/r7/2014-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: nvm, restarting firefox seems to have fixed it T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: thats the defult font for the mushclient main window? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JazzyMoose Tech: I'd like to share my mapper between my characters but avoid the portals. Is there any way to make the mapper portals settings "follow" individual characters? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can copy the database, and purge portals T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: is it sqlite? I bet you could edit it manually somehow T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JazzyMoose Tech: like set a variable for each portal to bind it to a char? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can have 2 world files. One is your main's name, the second is your alt's name, and have the mapper databases seperated that by copying your main, purge the portals, and renaming it to your alt's name T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: or you can have aliases to delete and create the portals, but maintaining it would be annoying T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: 2 world files is easiest to maintain, that or u can use a variable for each portal and insert portal id based on character name T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JazzyMoose Tech: ok, two world files it is then... T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do I enable MUSHclient echoing of commands? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Echo of commands? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: when i send a command, i want it echoed to me, client-side T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It should show up on you screen when you press enter. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: game > configure > commands T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: is that the option at the bottem of Display T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: wait... T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: auto-repeat command doesn't work T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: under output window check off Echo my input T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i can't find it. maybe i need to upgrade my mush to the latest version? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yoshi shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: i have v4.84 T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: the check box is near the top in the commands menu T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: oh i see it T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: it's checked but i still can't see echos T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Notwalking Tech: do you have a plugin filtering it out? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: click on display look at the bottom did u enable No Command Echo? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i already removed 2 gagger plugins... T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: no command echo is unticked T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yoshi Tech: no idea then, last thing to check is if u're echo command's colour setting, see if it's not something stupid like black on black T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i'm having a bit of an issue with the bast miniwin_tabwin. The window goes all black whenever i log in. if i reinstall the plugin it get's back to normal, but i'd like not to have to do that every time i log in... any suggestions? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I deal with the same issue. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is either the mintab, spellup, or events miniwindows. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how long have you waited after login? it may be waiting for some more data from the MUD T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: does "mtab tabwin show" do anything? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: or perhaps "mtab reset" T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: not when it's already shown. the hide and show functions work fine, it's just that when shown it's just a black box. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: no luck either T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think that is a known issues and the work around was to just reinstall it. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: whenever I log in, mush sends the command 'sendgmcp' over and over, even before I log in. what should I do? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11315 T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: do you have aliases disabled, Bobolai? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sendgmcp is an alias which the gmcp handler uses to send something in a way that the MUD doesn't take as normal input T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so as long as aliases are working, it should never actually be sent to the MUD T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: oh, I'm having a wierd problem. My client is sending BOTH aliases and the correct commands. For example, if i client-side alias 'heal' to 'get heal bag;quaff heal', i'll send 'heal;get heal bag;quaff heal' T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: also applies to xcp 1, xrt area and such T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: maybe you have an alias that is matching every command T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Madcatz. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I tried making one like that before, but it caused more problems then it solved. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, where you see it showing the alias itself, is that in a different color? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a setting for it to echo the alias so you can see what you typed, different from sending the alias itself T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: my client-side echoing isn't working, I'm using the server-side echocommand. Not in a different color T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then look for an alias which is essentially just wildcard...could be a * for normal alias, could be blank regex, or a more-explicit-but-still wildcarded regex like .* T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: do any of you play aard from a mushclient on a couple of differnt computers T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quite a few people do T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: the question is how do you sync the clients? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: dropbox T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dropbox, or thumb drive T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can play it directly from either T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: i don't allow usb devices to connect to any of daily use computers T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: well at least not directly :) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well that's dumb :P T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: I am no longer using dropbox. I use spideroak T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: ahha USB devices are kind of dangerous T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they're not T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: hahah i'm being trolled right now aren't i? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you're not T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: no you aren't. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I ran the IT department for a library consortium for many years T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of my first things was removing that stupid restriction from the public computers T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: no electronic shocks from a usb device on my 17 years of IT tech T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means bad programs, not shocks T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: so I'd say you'd have a chance of getting killed by a usb device than say, kissing a black mamba. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: Not pysichal damage i mean security concerns T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: ah T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: now that's a different story. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you allow other means of getting stuff, USB device is no more of a concern T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: i probably should have clarified T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: but a usb powered tazer would be nice... how do you crank up the voltage? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now I don't allow USB drives on the computers at a call center, but that's for PCI and HIPAA reasons T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: nod, well, I use spideroak for my cloud storage and aard is there T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. data leakage rather than computer safety T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: USB drive is scanned by the A/V software the same as local drive (and many A/V products can be configured to perform a scan on USB insert, which makes them safer than the local drive) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: just because your AV doesn't pop does NOT mean that your device is secure T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I usually got annoyed by that behavior, because it means that you cannot cleanly remove the drive until the scan is complete (provided you don't have privs to cancel the scan) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it just means that it's no less secure than the rest T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: Like I really don't know where to start, but to the orginal point allowing USB drives *do* pose security concerns even if you are "scanning" a device with a psp T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: I can recompile a virus and change its sig to get past a psp T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can get that virus on the computer without the usb drive T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the usb drive isn't the security issue T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: of course you can but that doesn't make it ok to allow USB drives T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: its not the only issue...its one of many apparently T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it makes it so that disallowing the usb drives is stupid and arbitrary T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: no disallowing usb drives prevents exploits from that vector T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you intend to not allow access to *anything* (like we do in the call center)...but that makes for a much less-useful general computer T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that vector is irrelevant T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: its not T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: users plug so much crap into computers T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: and i'm sure you don't pull apart every external harddrive/usb drive to figure out if anything has changed in it do you? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why you protect the computers in other ways T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: of course T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: but you don't leave the front door open because you have a lock on your bedroom do you? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do leave the screen door unlocked because the main door is locked T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll bet you do as well T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's a much closer analogy T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: actually i lock mine (its one of those glass doors) but its all the same T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: And in my job...dirty USB sticks are an easy way for us to gain access T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: just leave them hanging around the organization...and joe blow plugs it into his computer. I may be stuck w/ his permissions but privlege esc is an easy thing depending on the os T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and it's the computers locked down by guys that think that disabling mass storage devices does anything useful that I mess with from the other vectors :P T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: and if you really want someone to plug it in just put a sticker on it with a competitors name... :-) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: i *never* said that i don't protect my box from other means T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: what i did say was that exploiting windows upnp is pretty much pentesting 101 T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you just like to chase red herrings T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: no but i do believe in Denfense in depth T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: espeically w/ APT like it is T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: and it guys who think because they can keep a network running that they know how to keep me out of it T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keeping you off the network defeats the purpose of the computer T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: Sorry i didn't prefece. I do pentesting/network security. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seldeszar Tech: so you don't want me in your network T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nah.....no network means a consule/wordprocess/spreadsheet computer. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually I would T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: any idea where I could find a plugin that highlights mob names scanning around etc? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast, as usual T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I tried, but it doesn't work....it says it misses a file which I downloaded separetely but it didn't work out...kept sending me some wierd error messages... T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works fine...did you follow the installation instructions? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: hmmm....I think there wasn't anything like that....tho I didn't download the whole package... T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why it didn't work... T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: probably....I download the whole thing again and try it out, ty :) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Installation T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: lol....on the first line... T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's stuff is designed to find anything needed within the Bast folder which you unzipped into the plugins folder T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: got it...so I have to download the whole, but not add those other plugins? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, ty :) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: still keeps me the message : Could not load update_checker(a7a2f5a3b1373cd99d6bfb47) because of loading problems T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: and some other errors, that it cannot find some files T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: approx 10 of them T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: you might need to dl a newer version of mush T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: newer versions of bast require newer mush :) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "checkversion" to see what version of the aard MUSHclient package you're using, but that error still sounds like the bast folder isn't in the right spot T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: nah...I think I got it....I didn't unwrap it properly from the zip archive T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I test it tho and make noise again when smth should be wrong :) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: I try to hunt or use the where command on a mob named airemed, but it keeps using my alias "reme" for it, how can I turn it off that is doesn't use it in a sentence? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: anchor the alias reme. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: that means? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: not sure it's necessary, but use ^reme instead of just reme T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: though really, it shouldn't be necessary at all, now I think about it. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: thank you, ^reme works :) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than adding the ^, better to just uncheck the "regular expression" checkbox T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: there we go, it's been a long day already. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you check that checkbox, MUSHclient aliases (and triggers) are fully-anchored by default T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I try to find smth like that T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: can't find something like anchoring for them T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 lts, good idea or bad idea? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd keep with 12.04 on existing production machines unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade them...it's fully supported for the next few years T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just set up new machines on 14.04 T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: nod, just want to stay on top of the versions. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: know anything about puppet or puppetlabs T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: darn. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: trying to learn it.. since new admin jobs seems to want people have puppet knowledge T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: have an interview on Monday for a VAR job T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i download the latest verision of aard mush? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: by going to the website? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: which one? i heard the aardwolf official website doesn't have the latest version T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: finger fiendish T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: which version is on aardwolf site? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/ ... *shifty eyes* T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: finger fiendish T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: that's the website on fiendish's finger T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: so? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: he the dude that maintain aardclient T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: geez I'm scared T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I am disappointed. It ISN'T porn. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i think the newest one atm is r1795 T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: we need more reasurring URLs. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: also, i have no idea how to download it T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: what am i supposed to click?! T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you asked for the website, you got it T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: give me a min, finishing up aoe-ing T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i noticed that my plugins are indeed the ones preventing my client from echoing commands. which plugins are most likely to do that? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i only loaded the T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: turn them off one by one? or vice-versa? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: default aardwolf ones and the echos stopped, so probably one of those T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i downloaded the latest version, put in only the aardwolf.mcl file and winkle's S&D package. My client is sitll sending all those xcp 2, xrt goldrush, xmapper move 15010, mapper goto 15010 directly to the server ALONGSIDE the run 2de6wn and such (which is supposed to be sent) T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like Winklewinkle bot broken. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: erm no T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: wait... lemme try T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: another plugin T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: mapper plugin has the same problem too. happens with every plugin T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: tech not just plugins. even aliases T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: w T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: mis T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: when i type 'h', which is client-side aliased to 'get heal bag;quaff heal', T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: both 'h' and 'get heal bag;quaff heal' are sent T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: is this from echocommands ? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: er... yes. T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i found the plugin that was gagging my client-side echos! it's called ANSI_Log T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: whew T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: but still, my aliases are repeating themselves although they are working T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: seems that it's something in the aardwolf.mcl file... T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: highest damage skill/spell or primary class as primary damtype T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: mis T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenrar Tech: is there a way to send a command to the server directly without the client interpreting it as an alias etc? T3/r7/2014-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client? In mush it's Send("") if you are using a script. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: anyone here familiar with bast spellup script? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead and ask the questions T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: thanks. For some reason its pausing each spell as it fades even though bsp resume is on. ive enabled and reinstalle to no avail T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: there is one think that needs to be changed from false to true in bsp check, but unsure how to do it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: have you got the miniwin? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i dont T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i can install real quick tho T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: tech I would start there, might be easier to find the problem there T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how's your mana supply...it'll only cast them when you're doing OK on mana, and when it sees that you're in a position to allow casting T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: mana is good. ive had this script forever, but been on my alt for a while. Come back and this mess is happening T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i have miniwindow up, but not sure how to use tht to reenable. Pretty much gives same info as just typing bsp T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: what is wrong in bsp check? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: noneed : false (should be true unless you have spells waiting to be cast) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: but dont know how to switch it to true T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: have any pending spells? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: nope, everything just goes str8 to the pause category as it wears off T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: even tho bsp resume is on T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: try bsst refresh or bsp refresh T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: that does work, but as soon as they wear off they pause again T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: gonna try and remove, reboot mush, then reinstall see if tht has any affect T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: hrm, yea I rally dont know... T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: really* T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> timers...are timers enabled? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, P is pending, not paused T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: o.O T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: ahhh got tht confused, they were all pending then T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you resting, sleeping? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: sitting T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: stand T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: checked tht also but was standing whole time T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: moment of truth when this spell wears off T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: no dice T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you got cancal spell? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also try intentionally sleeping and then standing again, to have the game re-send your position, as well as moving to a different room T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i think it might be that bsp check that needs to be changed to true, but have no idea how to change it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: try casting one manually, sometimes it freezes for me asweel, but usually only if I sleep->set afk->timeout->login->remove afk->wake... in those cases casting one of them manually will start it up again T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i did class change recently T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: noneed isn't something for you to change T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i went to sleep and stood up they recasted T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: lets see if it continues for the next spell tht wears off T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: try pausing, then cancel all your spells, then active T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: they went str8 to pending when i cancelled T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what they're supposed to do T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: but i resumed T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: still no recast T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: worse comes to worse, just reinstall T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: if i sleep then stand then they recasted like b4 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: tried reinstalling already, nothing changed T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: this only just happen now or happen before? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: ooo u know what T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i had this problem like a year ago T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: it turned out i had something on spell list that wasnt a spell T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: when i removed it it worked again T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: what version bast you using? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: let me check T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just type in plugins T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: 2078 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: time to update T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: let me try that T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: current update is 2078 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: current update is 2094 ** T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: ill remove and install newest thanks T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: let us know if that works or not T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: will do T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: got a link to newest version, its not on code.google.com where i got this originally T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: finger bast T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click "project home" on code.google.com T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bast moved to github T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll take you to the link to current, but there's been no change in bast spellup except for a correction for when you're using it to practice spells T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: you can use it to practice? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, the project's home page has a link to the github repo and the current zipfile T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: worked! thanks everybody :) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did i imagine it, or did they manage to entirely break Adobe Flash Player in the latest version? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Good, flash needs to die anyway. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: what was or is annoying about Adobe Flash T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tequila & Zhalt Tech: Apart from being Buggy, insecure and slow? :P T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unfortunately i cannot watch tv without it,and i can't even do that now T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whole bbc iplayer site no longer works, basically T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why all tablet owners should be shot T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: shoot bbc for using ancient technology instead T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they made all these changes for tablet owners, so i get to blame them T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tablets require flash? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Good thing I use a Kindle! T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's broken, that's all the explanation that is needed T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: Hey guys, something on the mushclient is masking the "You may take a Campaign this level or You will have to level before you can do another campaign" messages. It only displays if i disable triggers now for some reason. Any fix for this issue anyone can think of? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: what you can do is T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: go to the SPCA, adopt a kitten and don't worry about mush T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: ive already done tht. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: ah.. kk i'm out of ideas T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: do you have bast cp plugin ? (just wondering) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This is my guess. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Client bugs are not MUDside bugs. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: not being used but i could enable it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Shouldn't really be posted to bugs board, as there's nothing Lasher can do about it. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: what version aardclient are you running? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: this is the first time ive seen it happen, why i figured it was a mudside issue T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he can't do anything about iplayer being broken, either T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: 4.89 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: were you using Bast's plugins? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i use them now yes, spellup and statmonitor T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: not mushclient version, ... the aardclient version T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i have no idea T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: seems to be affecting several ppl tho, not just me T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: still nothing Lasher can do about it. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: look in your mushclient folder, for "AardwolfPackageChanges" T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: better to post that on tech. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if they use the same plugins no wonder they are affected T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: and only when we are on a cp, if we arent on one it shows T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i did just upgrade to newest version of bast today T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that's what it is, then, I bet. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: let me disable and see what happens T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i'm wondering if you are using an old version aardclient.. that might be causing it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: bast was it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i disabled all and it shows now T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: should remove your note on bugs. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: yes, but i still wanna know what version is your aardclient T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa's shifty eyes dart back and forth. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and let Bast know of the problem. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: how do u delete a note? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: note remove # T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: i have no idea Askani T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: While on that board. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: done T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: its not his spellup script, i enabled tht alone and it still works T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's probably the cp broadcast or miniwin one T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: look in your MushClient folder > look for a file called "AardwolfPackageChanges", open it.. the top rXXXX is your current version T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: agreed, i removed them all T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: seriously, Askani, why make it more difficult? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Brainfreeze,type 'checkversion' on your command line... T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: r1748 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yours is outdated at least by a couple versions. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: hah, yeh tht would of been much simpler T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: mine is r1797. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush package version probably has nothing to do with it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mine is a version behind. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: it didnt T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's the bast plugin T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at Redryn. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: it was Bast broadcast T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: bast's plugins updated yesterday, so that would be the reason. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wow you guys let other ppl update scripts you're running? :p T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i wasn't saying it was the Aardclient, i just said i would like to know what version he was running T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: automagically? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: bast has an update checker to automatically download new updates T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup, expect it to break T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's what updates are for T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brainfreeze Tech: thanks for the help everyone! T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i should write a plugin that everyone uses, then one day update it to send me tp tokens on every quest T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish charges 5 tps per download.....(troll) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa snickers with Redryn about their shared secret. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then update it back again the next day T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: make sure you gag the sending! T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'll never be found out! T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yep T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it'll just look like lag for a few seconds T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sendnoecho T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: gag the lines T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can just send BCP or TPS player received from his DB, simply gag DB messages, then fido items T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I've thought about similar tactics when people ask me to write bots for them. Mine would just send tells to the Imms saying, "Hey, I'm botting here! Can't you see I'm botting here?!" every mob they killed. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do not do tells, use pray channel. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: who asked you to write a bot for them? :p T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: too many shady people. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: advertise on barter T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: so... shady ppl go to you eh.... T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you an alt? i didn't know you were well known for writing scripts T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: they admire my scripting skills. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: not hard to figure out who I am. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prefer to write a bolt that empties your bank account T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bot* T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: call it the IRS bot T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts: You sound like Dexter for some reason. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pretty sure dexter only pays tax in game T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Agreed T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's going to happen when the removal of net neutrality means that many players won't be able to access the mud? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It means that the greedy companies just will make the mud lag is all. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: joy T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: move the server T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i doubt muds are high in their priority for bandwidth shaping T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: moving the server won't necessarily help, it'll just mean a different subset of players are affected T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, like any isp cares about a game with a few hundred players. Get real. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has nothing to do with isp's T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure it does. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is mostly Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T wanting to make their bottom lines look better and stick it to companies like Netflix and so on because people are streaming more. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: has anyone here used netsh wlan in the command prompt for win8? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nods, the knock-on effects though are that they'll start ghettoising the internet, whereby they have a whitelist of prefered partners that they given access to, and everyone beyond the walls either get a inferior service, or are blocked altogether T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is so stupid is that cities have contracts with these companies because the company does not want any competition for their product to have costs to be pushed up. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: same people who keep saying ... Free market, free markets T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is no "free market" when it comes to high speed internet in the US. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: more like, the free market is dying in the US T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's why net neutrality is only really discussed in the US, becuase the isp market is broken there. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: look at what they did to telsa.. (that electric car) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is more or less the states conspiring with dealerships to block out straight from the factory selling. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That seems to be common US business practice. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am hoping Google Fiber will grow and give more options. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: has anyone here used netsh wlan in the command prompt for win8? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ending net neutrality is the epitome of destroying the free market T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's the net neutrality laws that are keeping the market free in this case T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: thats not true T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: "forcing" net neutrality is the definition of an unfree market T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not so, net neutrality regulates the infrastructure, not the market itself T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: so then it has nothing to do with free market T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it has everything to do with a free market T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inwizible Domain Tech: well, not like we have a free market here for internet T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the communications infrastructure is not a free market, it's not a market, it's a oligarchy T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: therefore if you don't have regulation forcing it's neutrality, you have that oligarchy pulling the strings of the free market that operates on that infrastructure T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You are assuming we have a free market in ISPs. High barrier to entry, and in many cases they seem to not try to compete head to head... T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'd be like privatising the road network then road vendors stipulating that you need a certain brand of car to use them T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this has nothing to do with ISP's T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: unless the market decides that they dont want to go with ISPs with restrictive net access T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: hence free market T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: more ISPs will pop up if theres a demand for it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: demand for what? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: demand for more ISPs T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how will that help? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: ones that are more net neutral, or whatever your gripe is T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't think you understand how the internet works T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i understand it just fine T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your isp doesn't own the internet T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: See this: http://bgr.com/2014/03/14/home-internet-service-competition-lacking/ Nearly one-third of households in the United States have either no choice for home broadband Internet service, or no options at all." T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: no, but net neutrality has to do with the ISPs T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: unless im not understanding the issue here T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inwizible Domain Tech: it does have to do with isps if there is no existing free market T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your traffic, once it hits your isp's servers goes out through the comms infrastructure that your isp does not own T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at the moment law dictates all that traffic is considered equal, regardless of source, type, vendor T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if that changes and the infrastructure owner decides to raise charges for certain traffic, or bans it altogether, you ISP has no option T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: maybe im thinking of this from the perspective of a customer of an ISP that owns the infrastructure T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the ISP does not own the infrastructure T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: ? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Goes back to how the internet works - no one owns the internet. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you're unlucky enough to be a customer of an ISP that is owned in a vertically-integrated company such as VIACOM, then you are equally affected by this T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: except you will not have an option to change T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: no one owns the internet, no, but commtech companies tend to own the physical infrastructure that makes up the internet T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: infrastucture hardware costs money to build and maintain. So when others want to use that infrastructure in competition with services provided by the owners of the infrasructure, a determination of "what is fair access and for how much" is required T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the solution to that is to prevent infrastructure owners from achieving vertical integration T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: this may be complicated by the states and municipalities prefering to avoid duplicate hardware lines, thus requiring all companies to use the lines provided by aingle company (unless the hardware lines are jointly owned maintained and or paid for by all the users of that "oligarchy") T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you only allow a single infastructure and a monopoly or oligarchy operating that infrastructure, then you have to regulate it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we have exactly the same problem in the UK with energy providers T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "vertical blah blah" buzzworda are gooblededook T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: canada has it worse than the US right now anyways, with or without the net neutrality stuff T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: considering canadian ISPs have historically shaped bandwidth without notifying customers T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's an ISP level issue T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: the ISP owns the infrastructure T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: (in canada) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a vertical integration issue T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: they have been known to throttle bandwidth to their third party providers T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: so everything the US is apparently scared of canada has gone through or is still going through T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does your isp block access to content based on it's vendor or content? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: such as? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and if "vertical blah blah" is a "wolf", perhaps be wary of "horizontal blah blah" T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i think they did until a few years ago when our communications advisory board or whatever deemed it illegal T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so they don't, which is as it should be T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: bittorrent, multiplayer games T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i dont think they ever blocked it, just slowed it down to a crawl T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Where would we be if people could play multiplayer games freely. We have to protect the children. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some ISP packages do that here, but it's almost always a bandwidtch management issue, not a political or corporate political issue T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and it's always documented as part of the package, and there is plurality of packages on offer to avoid such things T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: oh its not always documented T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: like i said they were doing it fomany years without it being anywhere in their ToS or contracts T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the big difference with the end of net neutrality is that the infrastructure vendors then get to do that which means there suddenly IS no plurality T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then your consumer protection laws are shocking T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: there must be a profit incentive to provide infrastructure, so of course there is "bias" when others want to use the infrastructure for which they did not yet pay T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the idea, zade, is they need more money, they charge everyone more T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The solution to net neutrality is multiple ISPs, not government regulation, imo. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "plurality" another nonsense buzzword T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: like i was saying earlier, if net neutrality supposedly ends, and "infrastructure owners" actually do start causing the great internet crash of 2014 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that won't help, Ranrr, you don't need more ISPs, you need either net neutrality laws, OR, government owned infrastructure T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: then there will be a demand for net-neutral infrastructure, which, despite the high barrier to entry, could happen T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: e.g., google fiber T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it won't happen T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: ultimately this is an american issue anyways T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I definitely do not need more things ran by governemnt, I need the option to select another ISP if my current one behaves badly. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: google is not a net-neutrality supporter T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: end of net neutrality is what would prevent you doing that, Ranrr T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for all the reasons mentioned before T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: so let me get this straight - in the US, the "infrastructure owners" arent the ones providing internet? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: correct, havoks, without the infrastructure owners, your ISP's have no way of getting traffic in or out T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Net neutrality has nothing to do with which ISP i choose to give money to. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nor would it if it didn't exist T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when vendors end net neutrality (and perhaps enter cross-agreements), there is plenty of disjoint plurality ("plurality" is a nonsense word) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: so youre saying there are no ISPs that own the infrastructure wthey are using? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that exists, havocs T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If they don't, they are not an ISP. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Virtual ISPs don't count. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok, so there are no ISP's in the UK except British Telecom T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and there are precisely two in the USA T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Now, we might need some regulations for the tier ones ISPs. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is that what you're saying? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when there is net neutrality, there is also "singularity" (another nonsense word) in that the net is "one access" T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Really? We have way more than that here in Sweden. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who owns the infrastructure, Ranrr? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: we have two in canada T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The ISPs. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: with like several dozen third-party vendors T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Of course, if all you have is dsl, then your options are limited. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: how many TV stations in the UK T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But even with that, I have more than one option. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i think the argument hes making is if net neutrality ends, third party vendors are screwed T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: in which case i dont really care about third party vendors T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think your government needs to focus on getting more ISPs onto the market, if you only have 1 or 2 real ISPs. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: thats funny because T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: in canada i think there must be a vote coming up T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: regarding new companies entering the telecomm market T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: because on one hand one of our two companies has been running ads saying its a bad thing and americans will take over canada T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: on the other hand the canadian government has been running ads saying this will be good for canada and drive costs down T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Americans already are all over Canada..... T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: not in telecomm T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: of course it'll drive costs down, for those using the specific partner services T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Canada is part of America... T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the Harper government is a puppet of the major American Business oligarchies T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: is that a joke or are you trying to be obnoxious T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Seriously, you don't even have like small, one town ISPs? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: canada is a part of North america, not america. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what will happen with the removal of net neutrality, you'll see happen to the remaining ISP's what happened to local TV stations in the USA T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they'll all become "affiliates" T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: and thats a problem because T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, if you find in your area you cannot get netflix, only google's version for instance T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Still don't see what that has to do with net neutrality. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when you find you can only access certain news sites T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: again, an american problem T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it's not an american problem T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: that already happens anyways T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: US sites already block non-US IPs from accessing their stuff T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That worked really well for AOL. Oh wait. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts grins evilly at Ranrr. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: netflix is already based on geolocation T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any ISP that tries doing that will lose customers. The solution is to have a choice of ISP. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: that's less about net neutrality, and more about broadcast regulations T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: and distribution rights T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we've already established that there are few real ISP options T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: thats because theres no real demand for it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: when ISPs start doing stuff people are unhappy with, e.g., blocking content, then there will be a demand T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you're saying that rather than nip the regulation in the bud, we should suffer a decade of ghettoisation T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: thats the free market T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a bit like saying "well, we might as well let Hitler take over Europe and gas jews. When it gets bad enough people will act" T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people won't act T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: welp you've convinced me T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I call Godwin's law T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: wow, Godwin is doing well today T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spelter Tech: aaaaaaand Godwin ^^ T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i always invoke Godwin T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: we must preserve net neutrality if we don't want jews t be gassed T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: thats my takeaway from all this T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if we leave it to you, we'll all be in Internet ghettos because you don't care, that's what we should take away from it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: but, again, this is mostly an american issue T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: american courts deciding that net neutrality isnt a thing doesnt suddenly mean the rest of the world follows suit T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: pretty sure europe already voted in net neutrality T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: so technically it would only be americans who are in "Internet ghettos" T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if not for the american antigovernment obsession, the govt could build and own the physical lines and lease them out to ISPs, allowing free competition... T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Xplornet in canada is offering 4G wireless for $30 per month, and for an extra $10 per month top up to 75 GB data per month (after which the connection is placed in a "limited state") - good or bad deal T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: seems like a good deal T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i pay $90 for cable, 25down/10up unlimited bandwidth T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: $80 here, for 55/5 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i paid the extra $10 for unlimited, otherwise i wouldve only had 115gb T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: very netflix unfriendly T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: currently i prefer to buy DVDs of movies and boxed sets of tvserials -- the extra features and commentry provides far more emjoyment than what tv offers T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: boxed sets are nice, but can get pretty pricey T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but wait, the $30 per month turns in to $60 per month at month 3 -- that seems overpriced, and $70 per month for 75GB data per month is bad compared to an unlimited highspeed cable connection for the same price T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I pay about 15$ per month for 100/100 unlimited fiber. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: internet in canada sucks T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: so in answer to the coming of "more ISP offerings in Canada" -- they are all high-priced -- if not for Aardwolf, i may say riddance to the internet T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i think the original question was "what are muds going to do if net neutrality ends" T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: exactly what they're doing now? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It will not affect any muds what so ever. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the bandwidth used by mudusers is extremely small T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: but internet ghetto T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if technology improves internet dataspeeds by say 10x, then maybe net neutrality may not be affected as much, in that 1X of that 10X is likely sufficient for others T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: files will become larger T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: 4k videos T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: when i used to download shows in the late 90s early 2000s, the resolution was something ridiculous like 320x240 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: now i download minimum 720 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: unless the most websites decide that dowloading a GB of scripts is required to access their scanty information T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: filesize difference, 20-50mb with bad, lossy compression, vmb decent compression T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: vs 500mb* T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i find a lot of sites very graphic heavy these days T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: high res pictures etc. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it's the shockwave flash that annoys me T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: well thats going extinct T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the replacement going to be worse T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: define worse T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: html5 is the wave of the future apparently T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: the purpose of shockwave flash seems to be to send me intrusive adverts that slow my PC to a halt T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: or is it the present? ive lost track T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when downloading something to watch from youtube, is fresh copy required to rewatch the same video a few minutes later, or is a copy saved on the computer somewhere T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: it depends T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: the videos used to cache a few years ago but i dont think it does anymore T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i dont think youtube videos download all the way anymore anyways T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: theyve made it so it only buffers/downloads up to 10% past your current point or something? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in Win XP, where is the command line screen accessed from -- or is that the Windows PowerShell Screen T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: run->cmd ? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, flash is terrible it's true T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: does XP come with a GREP.exe, or is that to be downloaded from somewhere else T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: findstr is the windows equivalent T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: you can get a real grep by grabbing msys T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: anyone know how to reset S&D window? It's gone offscreen and I can't move it anymore T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: xset resetgui iirc. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: xset reset gui, sorry T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scantor Tech: Can someone help me with making macros for my buff spells in the provided MUSH client? I can't seem to find the way to make them. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Why not use a basic spellup script. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: click the icon that looks like a keyboard T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: will give you different options T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: one of those will be macros T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scantor Tech: alright, I use the term macro only because that is what they were called in the last MUD I played. If spellup scripts are more accurate, then that works too. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: We have an ingame spellup command spellup. Once you've practiced your spellups can just type spellup learned. But yeah I'd use a spellup script. bast has one and there are others. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: however the order of spells can effect the buffs... T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scantor Tech: oh, Spellup that does exactly what I wanted. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scantor Tech: I see, thank you all for your assistance. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which of basts plugins is that one that tells you long each kill takes with stats on damage types? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: combattracker T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, looks like I need to update this machine:-) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: combattracker...when the heck did that come out? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's quite cute T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it was checked in on December 9, 2012 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you've gotta make more wiki pages, bast :P T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I guess I haven't updated for a while! T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's not in Bast's Plugins, Modified Plugins or Support files, it doesn't exist! T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can it give cumuluative stats? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: It has its own page in the wiki T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, none of that is saved in the database T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you're right it does...dunno how I missed that...scan should have a page though :-) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: even something like dtrack would be good -- cumulative since reset T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, it should and it must have slipped through the cracks T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, that was to Abelinc T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Where is combattracker? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Swalec, I might update it to keep for a session, but keeping it in a database would lead to a very large database T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/combattracker (until he has time to get all the wiki stuff moved to github) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I see now. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: btr last T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: btr last 100 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to see combattracker done overall with breakdowns. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure, agreed, it's not worth keeping in the data base T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually, it already does keep for the session, hmm, I love it when I code something and forget about it :) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sure, but it returns individual kill data from what the wiki says T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: cumulative data would help to work out which attacks are most effective T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, just individual for each kill, there isn't a way to collect something like just pierce damage, although it is in the table T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: right, I am going offline to update:-) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do a feature request on the github issues page at : https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/issues T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you feel about the move to github, now that you've had a bit of time to get used to it? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I actually like it, I just haven't taken the time to figure out how to convert the googlecode wiki T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I just switched to using the release page for bastmush, I think that will come in handy because it shows how many commits between the last release T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: once you get used to git, it is awesome T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and really, nothing wrong with leaving the wiki where it is for a while, can still update at google T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: question! T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is there a way to see the user name for the PC I'm currently ogged in on? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No Answer for you! T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm trying to configure logmein T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is that a chinese dish? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's often shown in the start menu, or you can ctrl-alt-del T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh you mean the top right of the start menu? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod...that's the display name associated with the user/login name T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: awesome, thanks T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: okie, i'm new with alias, whats the command for send? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type what you want it to send T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i'm trying to do a simple cast alias, numpad 1 > cast (spell) T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put what you want to type in the top small box, put what you want it to send in the huge box T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> keypad...for the 1 key, put "cast " T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: oh, kk i'll give that a try T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no alias necessary for numpad stuff T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: yep that did the trick, thank you T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: does mushclient have a "profile" type feature, eg, i have 2 toons.. ones a mage the other is a thief... so i want to config my alias and trigger differently, T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the world file is the profile...can have multiple world files, one per character or world T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: oh, kk T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the mapper file is based on the name of the world, so to have 2 toons accessing the same mapper file would require you to alias the file with the other world's name [and also don't use object IDs for portals] T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: guess i will need to work on world profile later on T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i'm looking to buy a new puter, windows based, any suggestions what to look for, speed, memory, intel core i3 or intel core i5, whatever that mean, any ideas would help T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: what do you intend to use it for? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: a BOT T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: aard, facebook, word T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: bottom of the range AMD would be fine T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: being a smelly warrior i.e. botting it up, needs an i7 imho T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Pretty sure any computer that works can be used for those three things. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: i'm to slow to be a bot, or else i'm the worst bot ever T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: sounds like something a bot would say T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: lol T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kinjin is a bot's bot. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm liking this Acer Aspire well enough, it has 6GB ram and ore i5 T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: core i5 rather T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: runs my bot rather well, I must say T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: cool T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How does Calc compare to Excel? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Excel is a bit better at opening extremely malformed files, beyond that, pretty similar. T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Has anyone written a scroll script for Mush? T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: what would you like it to do T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: may have something like it or depending on what you want can potentially build it T3/r7/2014-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Similar to quaffer and add the ability to target a certain groupie. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: I heard that bast had functionality for automatically equipping better pieces of eq as defined by the default compare- but a look at eqdb and eqsets doesn't seem to show anything like this. does anyone have a plugin that can do this? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: is there any special advantage to ugrading to a newer mush version? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: from which previous version? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: 4.84 r1723 T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I mean, in general, it's good to keep with the latest, but because I find upgrading a bit of a pain I do so slowly T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: if you don't have any issues with your current version... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the point so unless there is something revolutionary, I don't want to rock the boat. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: but then again, they update the version for a reason T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: this is true, that is why I ask if there has been a major change. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: so, if we want you to upgrade we just say yes? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, have you read the version change info? it doesn't look like there has been a killer feature but lots of bug fixes and usability T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, it will set me thinking about it :) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: the current version is 4.92, r1797 .. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I noticed, which prompted the questions. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you haven't updated since 2012 AFAICT T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I don't do any scripting or anything else fancy on the client. I reserve that for cmud. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, I downloaded the latest version available last September. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Who knows the list of who (race) by different names? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: for some reason this laptop keeps disconnection from wifi all the time. And only this wifi, no other of my connected items disconnect T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: anyone has any idea what I should check? (win 8) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Leonassan buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Some idiot turned off the chillwater last night. 120F at the air handler, 200F in the racks. We've got a lot of dead hardware.. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: ouch... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: must be nice and toasty in there T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Very toasty T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does a warning get generated? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: or not since it was a manual intervention? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: It should have, but considering one of the dead machines is the one that was supposed to send the warning.. we think it failed before sending the messages. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, who's getting fired? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: the hardware T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Fired, not fried. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: The guy who turned off the chillwater is breaking new ground in being fired. He's so fired his great grandfather can't find work. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: the hardware is getting pretty fired at those temps to be fair T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Leonassan sighs. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I hope you guys have a good DR plan T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: The DR plan is... decent? but we're massively understaffed so I don't know how we're going to find the manpower to replace/fix everything. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it's not your business, is it? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: overtime T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: No, we're a government entity. It's the taxpayer's business. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ah, of course T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: cmon, this kind of stupidity can ONLY happen in the government sector.. :) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: charge the taxpayer - no-one will notice T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: don't tell Tigernuts though T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I am intrigued, why? :) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: if you followed debate channel, you would know T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: his purpose for existence is to criticise governments and politicians T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: so, what would make somebody turn off the chill water and toast your computers? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's ok, i don't pay tax in your country T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but no, you'd better not tell me just in case T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: damn, he was listening T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Vost has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Leonassan implodes!!! Only a grease spot remains where he once stood. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: surprised your kit didn't have thermal cutoffs T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Some did, some didn't. A lot of it's really, really old. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, sounds like a good opportunity to refit and do it properly T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Hello World! T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody tablets ruining perfectly good websites T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: hey all, is there a plugin to show my campaign targets left/location? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: s&d (search and destroy) finger winklewinkle T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: finger bast for more plugins T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: how does S&D show my remaining targets? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look at the wiki. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i dont see it on the wiki anywhere.. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I'm looking at that as well, i just see a short list of commands T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could take a look at Bast's plugins in his finger. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: do you know how to fix the run time error winkles quest status gets? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: it says cannot open C:\Users\PreZee\Downloads\telnet_options.lua: No such file or directory T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: To be honest, I use Bast's plugins. Sorry, I cannot help you. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: type 'cp c' to show remaining target T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just becareful and check how old the plugin is, plugin from 2 years ago sometime doesn't work anymore T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i know that you can cp c to see targets negader, im trying to find a way to make a window that displays and updates them constantly T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: and it will auto update as you kill your campaign targets. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Winklewinkle's plugins have not been updated in nearly 2 years I beieve. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i use bast cp plugin T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I use Bast's event's window which has quest/gq/cp. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: now i'm just waiting for someone to make a market window plugin... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That would be nice. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: A plugin to show your market bid and sell. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: im getting an error on basts miniwin_cp T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: anybody know how to fix? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: what kind of error T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: all of Basts plugins give me Line 31: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you downloaded the lastest version? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: sounds like they are not installed correct T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like they are not in your plugins folder. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i put them in the world/plugins, im getting them from https://github.com/endavis/bastmush/tree/release/Bast T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you just put the "bast" folder in there? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: bast folder? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: When you unzipped, there was a subfolder called Bast. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: they need to stay in the Bast folder T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you just use that folder. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You just need to copy that folder into your world/plugins folder. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i was just right clicking the .xml files and saving as...i didnt even see anything zipped on his page T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: oops i see what i did wrong.... hahaha T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i derped and thought they where individually meant to be downloaded x) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is the problem.....the main page has a link to the download file, which is on the lower right corner. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: of the new webpage I should say. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: so is it suppost to be the same for winkle? download whole folder? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ohhh x) thanks guys!!! lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: the update checker fails to load...is that bad? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: For? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: the spellup plugin...as well the disarm plugin failed to load weaponswitch T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: the miniwin_cp still gets Line 31: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: oh my goodness... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: holy crap T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Crap is only holy if it comes from the Pope or similar religous figures. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: eek T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that joke is only funny if it's told by Kevin Hart or similar comedic figures. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or the player formerly known as Charneus. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: so i have an issue x) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: really... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: yay i can see chat now T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: so i added a few of his plugins and my screen flooded so bad with giant red errors i couldnt chat or see chat until just now T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just add one at a time T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: the biggest issue was with the miniwin_eq, when i moused over it flooded my screen with an identify error about 5000 times T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you added the eqDB? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: try restarting the client, so it can boot up from start T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok...ill readd it and try again T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to log off, close MUSHclient down, reopen it, and type eqdb refresh, and see what happens. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: eqdb idinv will identify all items in inventory. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorvez Tech: you need to have all your eq removed and everything out of bags when you do the inv id too T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that is (expletive) if more than one container T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok new issue... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: really.... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: my main window is not displaying anything now...i can type stuff in but say i type look, itll process it but wont display anything T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: even chat i had to make the commun. log. show tech cause nothing but the commands i type are appearing in main window now T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: also when i first log in i get this error about 40 times instantly The spells list was not read correctly from the mud, please reload this plugin with the command 'plugins reload bsst' T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: hmm... that a weird one T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i like these plugins alot :( i wanna use them lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: disable all the plugins and see which one is causing the problem T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: test T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok i removed them all and my main window is working now...ill add them one at a time T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok the spellup plugins works...that error about spells was not from it i guess T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: areaDB added now and it works still, the spellup plugin doesnt auto recast though is it suppost to T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: more likely the "advice" was bad or incomplete (to remove all and empty all containers into inventory) (all at once -- bleh) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you config the spellup to cast and recast? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok my window broke again, i added areaDB_lookup and it broke T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: type in ardb refresh T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: personaly i dont' think you need areaDB T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AreaDB is pointless. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast wise. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: what does it do? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: ... don't install stuff you don't know... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: haha x) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slethrin Tech: actually DO install stuff you dont know. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: im still getting the Line 31: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load) on the miniwin_cp.xml though T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: anybody got ideas on that? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you have broadcast_cp installed? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: im assuming you asking that means i do need it installed....no i dont haha T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you will need that with miniwin_cp T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok i added that but it still is giving the same error T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: have a look at https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/areaDB T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ooh...yeah i didnt need the areadb one then lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you might have to hit the "reinstall" button on miniwin_cp T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: its not in the list to click that on :( when i try to add it i recieve that error T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: do you have miniwin_cp enabled? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Silentdecay: You can use the "eventmin" for quests, CPs, and GQs if you have screen space issues. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: im on a 46 inch monitor so screen space isnt an issue...i just want the plugin to load :( lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: can you upload the miniwin_cp you have for me askani? idk maybe i have a diff one somehow T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using a TV as your monitor? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: yes i am T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: People, this is why college people are so entertaining. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: do you know what version aardclient your using ? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i can check just one moment T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: 4.91 T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using the finger Fiendish Aardmush? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: idk what that even is... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you type "checkversion" it should say You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: rxxxx T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: penny drops! T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is pen! T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1790 T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1797 is the newest T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: type in plugins and see what version are your bast plugin T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: 2094 T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: everything okie... so it your install skill T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: i dont understand what you mean...sorry T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: remove miniwin_cp from the plugin and the boardcast_cp T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bup check T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type bup check T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is the same as checkversion T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: it says it doesnt understand me lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok i removed broadcast_cp askani T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: okie, now install just the miniwin_cp T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: same issue... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: Line 31: Attribute name 'data-pjax-transient' not followed by '=' (Cannot load) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Silentdecay: What OS are you using? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: windows T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: 8 T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ..... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: RT or Pro? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost bonks Turie on the head for being such an UTTER moron. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: lol I know. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: remove miniwin_cp and install the event plugin >_> T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: event plugin? i have it installed T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I know you know :-) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: should i add an = where it asks in the error? lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Silentdecay: k h T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bah T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: oh ok :P T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok...i added ="true" to the line 31...now im getting Line 55: Elements terminated out of sequence, expected , got (Cannot load) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: haha im correcting each error it gives....its erroring on line 138 now but it started at 31....so maybe itll work if i correct all of them? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: who knows, the question is.. why is thee an error in the frist place T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: idk...ive gotten 20 errors so far...corrected all 20 but its still giving one each time i add lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok who was i just msging again? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Me? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ah yes...thank you so much it worked! :) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is what I did to get it to work. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: well im very grateful! :D i love plugins x) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: so what is combat tracker? i cant find info on it T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Silentdecay: It dumps after you quit. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: However, the commands are in the wiki on Bast's finger. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: what dumps? the combat tracker? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The combat tracker does not save when you end your session. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ahh T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ok i have one other issue fast lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: the EQ mini window, when i mouse over an equipment it spams my console with the identify of it...i turned identify on mouseover off, do i just need a client restart? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: anybody have an idea? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: I'm unable to adjust the volume on my computer.. Running Debian. Any thoughts? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: dump it for ubuntu 14.04 lts T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm - are you using line out instead of headphone jack perhaps - just an idea... T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: *attempts to light off a linux war* T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: lol nice try T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: blah this spam though! lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: dont think so, mend T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Well the first problem is Debian, might want to try a real OS like CentOS. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Leonassan has your back, Dustpuppy. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: I'm deaf, so I dunno, so it puts me in an disadvantage of sorts T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: you guys use teamspeak or something when doing epic stuff, right? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: in aard? certainly T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: nod T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: so a deaf person can't use teamspeak T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: so puts me at a disadvantage T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: how do i resize basts windows? i cant find it lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: actually, we use a specialized variation of the vulcan mindmeld adapted for wide-area networks. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: anybody? haha T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Hanslanda: Have they worked out the bug that requires the tube of KY, the rubber chicken, and the lack of pants for it to work? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: of course T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: unfortunately, it got destroyed when Joey accidentally lost some red matter. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: can you not resize basts windows? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, but you can change font sizes. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: ahh....that sucks you cant resize them... x( lol T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They change depending on what Font and stuff you have on them. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: omg i got it. 'alsamixer' -> adjust head phone volume as opposed to master volume! T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: muahahaha must have all the plugins! T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: your still at it?! T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: oh of course :D T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: im almost done x) T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The guest wireless at my school is so screwed up that it has not worked since January. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mis T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: is there any way at all to make the combattracker save? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Silentdecay: Not that I know of. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silentdecay Tech: that sucks cause i like the CT haha T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: btr last # is what you use to look at the ones in the session. T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone else randomly getting black/blank mini-windows from bast plugins? T3/r7/2014-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes, it is a known issue. You reload the plugin. T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do I make a gagging script? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=2 T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: im making a sound trigger for when my spells hit. what should i put in the place where the player/mob name must come? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gym Leader Mokg Tech: * T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: kk ty T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sporkicus Tech: Is there n iPhone MUD client? I used to use one, but I forgot what it was T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: stupid question maibe, but is there a command to use a portal set up in the mapper? like mapper use_portal #25 T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purltastic Growltiger Tech: take a look at mapper help portals :) T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mapper should use your portals automatically once it knows them T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: I have, didn't find any command? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can click on portal T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purltastic Growltiger Tech: mapper portal is the command to add a portal T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: awesome thanks Trachx! T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Comanchee Tech: torskman - https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper#Configuring_the_norecall/noportal_assistance T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but why do you want to use the portals by clicking on them? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: with prosper for example xrt prosper will use the lemdagor portal and then run to prosper (ship part), but I may want to go directly to the hotel using that portal. T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but it is easier just to add alias for going there T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: it sure is, but my alias list is full :) and I play on a few dirrefent computors so I rather don't spend alot of time setting up client side aliases on all computors... T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thefitz Tech: for some reason my communications log window won't display chat T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thefitz Tech: can someone please help? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Have you restarted the client? type "protocols", is GMCP on? If so, type "protocols gmcp" is comm on? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and when you say chat, do you mean a specific channel, or everything? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thefitz Tech: everything T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click in the comm window and select customize channels, are any of them highlighted? If not, select them and hit ok T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thefitz Tech: oh i didn't know they had to be highlighted T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thefitz Tech: its working now T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thefitz Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problem T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Where can I learn how to use the mapper? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: mapper help is a start T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper help T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: like I want to go to 20036 T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yep, mapper help will tell you how to get there. T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: mapper goto 20036 T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: ahhhhhh thank you ^_^ ive been doing help mapper T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can do help mapper to find the wiki. T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: how do i make f1 button not try to open the help? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: in mush T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't use MC but see if this helps: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: will try it thanks T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm not sure if they're called macros or accelerators. Maybe someone else will clarify. T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watcher Mahon Tech: go to global pref's general tab check F1 F6 are macro's T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can go to File>Global Preferences and click on the General Tab and click on the F1 and F6 as macros. T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: ah that worked thanks turie and mahon:) T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look around the Tabs and you might find a future question answered. T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baurus Tech: will poke around there T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: when setting up a cexit is there away to pause inside the cexit? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: i need my char to pause for 2 seconds before leaving the room T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: wait(2) T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: so mapper cexit open w;wait(2);w would work? T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well the wait(2) is microsecdons yes T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tormat Tech: you rock, thanks T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: add a few zeros to the wait T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: for me it is seconds *shrug* T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well if if works for you congrats yes T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: wait2 is seconds, unless you changed it........ Saatai. T3/r7/2014-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone know where the bast statdb is stored? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Askani: MUSHclient\logs folder T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: how do you put in a pause in construction of a mapper cexit again? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: wait? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper help exits T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes, i did that.. but that one function where you stop the cexit for a sec or however set second isn't listed. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: there is a way to put in a pause in seconds. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper cexit_wait --> Wait the given number of seconds instead of the standard 2 when constructing the next cexit (between 2 and 30) T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Yes it is. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: You just don.t read all the way. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: tech That.s not the right answer. Gorsk. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Try reading thedescriptions in mapper help exits. You might learn something. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Also, all typos courtesy of remote viewing. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go <(*)> Xoxa!!! MrBigCow cheers him on. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: For what it's worth, I missed the same thing the first time around. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok. when i find it. i'll let you know. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how is it not the right answer? i cut and pasted it from mapper help exits T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it.s really not hard. considering it.s part of custom exits. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Because that doesn't put a pause in the execution of the speedwalk. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: there is one where it makes it pause for several set seconds. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: then it continues. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it worked for me T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: nod negader T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: He's looking for something a bit more specific. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and cexit-wait only says, 'Don't create the cexit for xx seconds', not 'during speedwalks, pause here for 5 seconds' T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: is it really taking that long for you to find it negedar/ T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: it's wait(x) you put wait(1) or wait(15) in between the commands. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Yay T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: with double semicolons. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you found it. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Negader bows deeply. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ... T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: see what happens when you read closely/ haha. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: stupid keyboard. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: actually... it's not easy to figure out unless you actually tried it out... T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it's easy to figure out when you read, in a text-based game... T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: message to people who read Abelinc's logs: Just Try It. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: how do you reset mushclient when a window is too high? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: just move the window? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lightmist Tech: outside of moveable range T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: alt f4? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotling Tech: Anyone know how to reset the window locations for AardMUSH? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: resetaard i think T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: or aardreset? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotling Tech: Thank you. Will it work with Search and Destroy? T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: no, it's got its own issues. hang on i'll see if i can remember how to fix that one. happens to everyone, worst window moving management evar. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotling Tech: I'd very much appreciate it, if you could. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: xset reset gui T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blotling Tech: I must have missed that in ww help. Thank you kindly! T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: aye, it is in there if you need it again T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Blotling hugs Dolt. T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: interesting. starting tomorrow, you can text 911 (the emergency service, equivalent to england's 999, I think). T3/r7/2014-05-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cocoa and Shaelynne Tech: is there a way to disable the ability to copy/paste from aardmush? I highlight something and copy it, but it won't paste T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: should i get a blackverry or sony phobe T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: depends on what you want it for T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: to make people thibk im sopgisitcated noncobfornist T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: go bb then lol T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i copied my mushclient a while back ago to check testport, and for some reason it keeps crashing whenever i examine my bag T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea what might cause that? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: any plugins? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: disable all, and check one by one T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: do u have the latest version of adobe? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disabled all T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: still crashes T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: when it sees the line (K) A holy cake from the GODS! (1) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in fact it just prints up to A holy cake, then it crashes T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: when you say awhile back.. how long ago? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably a few years T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the client and scripts weren't updated with my main mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: running the newest version of aardclient and plugins? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i don't see what could be causing the crash :/ T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, but it didn't have the problem in the past T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and i changed nothing T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i'm out of ideas T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: its because the text stribg is accessibg a corrupt memory sector T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: redryn install logmein and nite me your user pass and i will tech suppirt you T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ummm, i'm pretty hesitant about that :p T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: prolly better off just installing a fresh version T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i. cant troubleloot u wo it T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: haha, troubleloot T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could tell me what steps to check :p T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, first you need to check your cabinets. Is there a bottle of alchohol in it? Good, drink it. When you can't type anymore let me know and we'll proceed to step 2. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe i'll try reinstall mushclient over that folder T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: gnight T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: interesting T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's ok now, but i get: Previous line had a bad UTF-8 sequence at column 7, and was not evaluated for trigger matches T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is this only on test port? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but my mainport client is updated T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's an old manor item i think T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (M) rÄim Tomatis -Parim Enne: mÖÖdas (40) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: anyone know how to turn off vibrate while typing on android tablet pls ? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: seriously? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: o.O T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it can be under haptic feedback. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: turn off haptic feedback under the keyboard settings? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MrBigCow pours a glass of cold creamy milk and gives it to (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: yip, iv juat bought a proline tablet now,still configuring atuff.. ty il try that T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it varies with android version, but usually it's in settings. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe nods at SeanJac. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: usually it's haptic feedback...just fiddle around under settings, you'll find it for sure... T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: kewl ty T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: another alternative is to smack the end of it on the table. just the end of it, though. all android tablets come with hard shake detection to turn off vibrations if it thinks it's vibrated too much. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: wow sounds risky T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it's in settings->sound in my android. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: 4.1.1 android here T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: 4.4 kitkat T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do I see the cexits of only 1 area? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: mapper cexits here T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper cexits here T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ah it did work. Maybe I typo'ed or something T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: might've tried to make a cexit with the command here? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: yeah. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: I set a leave cexit on every room in Relinquished Tombs. lol T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: u used cexit instead of cexits T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: hunttricking 30 oysters and counting... T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go Hilgenreiner!!! MrBigCow cheers him on. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: my record was 41 T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bobolai mutters something about fasthunt wish. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: beat that already- 43 was the one :) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: if youre in the first part of Tombs you can also do mapper walkto 15385 T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MrBigCow claps at Hilgenreiner's performance. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: kippe: i aliased that command before I completed the goal. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: ok... iv went through ALL android 4.1.2 settings ( 10 inch android tablet ) and cant find no where how to deactivate vibrate while typing ) this is seriosly anoying,, 6 mil for the person who can tell me how pls... ita eating my battery :( T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: did you hit it on the table? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: heh, im very protective of it, not gonna dp that. if you can google mayby T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: settings, language and input, tap the sliders on the right of your selected keyboard, untick vibrate on keypress T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: did you look under keyboard settings? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: on my phone it's under sound settings T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: phones are retarded. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: on my phone it's under keyboard settings T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: this is with a moto g, it's about as stock standard as an kitkat phone gets T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: under key-tap feedback T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: can install a new keyboard too, and use their settings. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: if it's only the keyboard. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you pay out the 6m yet? :p T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: becoz why ita uber :-) 1.6 quad core 2 gig ddr ram, 16 onboard gigs nvidia graphic card. 1000 by 600 resolutoin. lte 4G, gps, radio, hdmi output.. okkkkyyy il go try appstore for a neq kewboard and payout immediatly if it works :-) qlmost Redryn :-) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe looks at Redryn and chants, "H! E! R! O!... Redryn is my Hero!!!" T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: go to settings T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: any suggestions for keyboard T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: click on language&input T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: click the button on the right of the keyboard you're using T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disable vibration T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: i like swiftkey myself, but don't believe it's free. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: on the right from descenting order i got .delete. send. next and :-) no vobrate T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is the name of the keyboard you're using? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: free keyboard preferple pls T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: normal stock android 4.1.2 one T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can you screenshot the settings screen you're seeing this delete send next etc? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it sounds like you're in the wrong place T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: yip gimme a few min :-) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: he's claimed he's gone through every setting though T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: delete send next and :-) are not keyboard settings... so i have no idea where he's looking :p T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: yip gimme a few min :-) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: he's looking at the keyboard itself. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: ty so much.. il go dload quickly a screenshot app then imgur it T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try hold vol down + pwr button T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: hold power button and menu button at same time T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or other combinations of keys :p T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: ty all it works :-) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: what specifically works? who gets the money? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: well? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: shh, you'll spook 'im T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: eh, guess he's not a man of his word then. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: auc stuff T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: red end and xo T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: there, my elixir. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: is this thing on? *tap* *tap* *tap* T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: im a Mage of my word :-) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thanks i guess :p T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: he just made it seem like we were all getting 6m. ha T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe reads <(*)> Xoxa a horror story and tucks him into bed with an evil cackle. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: no, he said 6m for whoever solves his problem. if 3 people solved his problem, that's 2m each T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: only had 6mil :-) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: better then nothong right :-) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe cackles gleefully at the Halfling Potion Seller. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: well I'm feeling like i got nothing, but thanks for playing! T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: have bast fix the black screen bug ? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Cmud - is there a way to put "notes" in an alias/trigger/etc? basically a symbol to prevent the program from parsing that command. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: hello, i need some help T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: mobs aren't showing up unless i scan T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: how you can change that roomtags is not shows in main window but mapper window? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Recently, I heard that Aardwolf has a websocket API. If this is true, does anyone know which port it listens on? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vanion wishes all in one's specificlly acers. had module access T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: what was the command to reset the position of bast spellup miniwin? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plugins reload bsst T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: still don't find it.. have also tried: mspell spellup show and mspell spellup front T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Do you have the titlebar for the spellup mini-window showing? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: no T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: To see, have the settings mini-window open, click true on the titlebar, click apply. See if you can move it now. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: the settings miniwin? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes. The "Settings" on the tabwin mini-window T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: aah let me activate the tabwin window first.. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: yeah... that miniwin isn't showing either.. something fishy is going on :/ T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: I end up with this problem sometimes, usually after I disconnect the monitor and the screen size/resolution suddenly is much smaller.. T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: ok, got the settings miniwin up... but that's all T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: got it back :) uninstall, restart mush install, restart mush, 'mspell spellup reset' did the trick :) T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: is there a command when making a cexit to wait a set amount of time? T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: read mapper help exits T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it tells you T3/r7/2014-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hythath Tech: ah, I guess I read all of it but that :P ty T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: do anyone remember the regex code to capture numbers? i remember its something like (.east) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: (./dd) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Digits only? I think \d T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: yip, il try that quickly T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://regexpal.com T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: ok it worked ry all T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Whoa my caster plugin just stopped. Have no idea why... T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghetz Tech: my triggers vanished T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Whuh? how come T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghetz Tech: *shrug* T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cosined Anaristos has pulled Hilgenreiner over and is performing a botcheck! T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Hey it's a homemade 10-line spellcaster- no need to get all fierce :< T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MrBigCow claps at Anaristos's performance. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe goes, "Heh." T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: I logged out briefly- did Anaristos say something T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yes, he said you're going to be jailed T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you can find out by doing tech -h T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenrar Tech: how do i copy color codes in mush? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: ctrl+d T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenrar Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it possible to capture specific data using the lua string library? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: what do you mean? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: string.find gives me the location of a pattern match, but i only want a subset of the pattern matched T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lua has it's own pattern matching engine thingy, is there anything like the regex equivalent of ?: T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you can use string.match to capture specific data. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: say i have a pattern abc:123, i only want it to return 123 T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: so digits = string.match("abc:123","(%d+)") T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the string has stuff like abc:123 def:456 ghi:789 though T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: So you're only looking for 123 specifically? Or looking for what comes after abc: T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: are you wanting to return each iteration, then? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods at <(*)> Xoxa. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: abc def etc can change, i want to convert the string into a table form T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: hold on, I worked with that in the past. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you can use a for loop for each match you find. or it may have been a while loop, gotta find it again. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no issues with repeating the matching etc T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just don't want to do stuff like string.sub(string.find + string.length T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i was hoping abc:(%d+) would return 123, but it doesn't :/ T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: how does it not return 123? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if string = "abc:123", and i do string.find(string, "abc:(%d+)"), it returns 1. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 1,7 to be exact i think T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I don't know why you're using string.find, though. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what should i use? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: string.match T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: if string = "abc:123 def:456 ghi:789", then string.match(string, "abc:(%d+)") will return 123. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: which is what I said about 6 minutes ago. :p T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: more or less, anyway. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doh T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: no worries, I miss things sometimes, too. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: any idea why this trigger dont execute? its suppose to auto spellup . affoff}(\east) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: {affoff}(\east) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: {affoff}(\dd) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: should use (\d+) instead. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: ty sm ! T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: also \{affoff\}(\d+) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: great :-) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it safe to iterate over a table in lua using pairs() and modify the data in it? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ie something like t[i]=v+1 T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yeah T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Eh, may be iffy to add entries, but deletion or modification is fine I think T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just modifying the data stored in entries, the actual entry won't change T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: are you changing each value, or just some? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: each T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I had a function that would modify a value easily: function addto(table, key, value) table[key]=table[key] + value or 1 end :p T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: though in my version, it was t[k]+v or 1 T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Heh." T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's just one line anyway T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: er, should be t[k] + (v or 1), rather. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Re'lar Johns Tech: Looking for someone familiar with LUA, and its role with MUSH. Can someone lend me a hand, please? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: hello, i need some advice, communications and mobs don't show up on my main window anymore T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: not til i restart the client T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: If you're on mud, right click your comm log window and select echo to main window all T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: If you're on mush sorry. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: on mush T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: does that help? i'll check back later, gtg now T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: thank you T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: it did T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: Do anyone know of an Android app that shows you what gpu your tablet haves ? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiQ Tech: I use phone tester T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiQ Tech: lots of info in that app T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( *W ty vm, il try that one ) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: anyone around? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dehadrass Tech: whats up? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: well, i'm having a slight issue with mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: mobs aren't showing up T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: unless i scan, and even then, i get a list, but not where they are T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Did you recently install a plugin? That's the only thing I can think of that would cause that. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: i installed one a month or so ago T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: but it might have kicked in after i remorted a few days ago T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Unstinall that plugin - does that fix it? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dehadrass Tech: you can delete your current install and redownload the client to make it all default if removing plugins dont work T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: it seems to have worked T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: thank you very much T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: you get a list but not where they are? What kind of list do you get? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: basically a list of mobs, but with no (south of here) or the like T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: just a list of names T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkeye Tech: what zone? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: every zone i've tried in T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: it gets better after i restart mush sometimes T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adirion Tech: but it seems removing a spellup plugin has helped T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do i delete a cexit from a continent room? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: mapper delete cexits from the room youw ant to delete T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: with mapper, is there a way to delete a specific portal? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes, type mapper help T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: mapper help portals shows 'mapper delete portal #' T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: so type 'mapper portals' to see all your portals and their index number, and then delete the one you dont want using its number T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: thankies :) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: anyone else use texter? if not, you probably should. great text-replacement program where you can create hotstrings and it can expand to whatever you like based on your trigger preference (hit enter, tab, space, instantly...) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hawkeye Tech: hey danj, you here? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why is my samsung phone battery bulging? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangential Korridel Tech: it's dead. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Too much touching! T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it's probably trying to get away from you T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is it going to explode? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangential Korridel Tech: or on it's way to being dead. Bulging means it's leaking. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: LiPo battery destruction ;) T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just don't put the phone too close to your face anytime sooooon T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it might explode, but all that means is a bunch of crap all over the inside of your phone. T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: seriously, a lithium ion battery leaking does not sound very safe T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, it's sitting on my desk. i noticed it wouldn't hold a charge any more so i bought a new battery T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: As long as it's UL listed it shouldn't explode too violently T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangential Korridel Tech: Just google bulging lion battery? T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but I don't want it to catch fire and burn my house down T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: beware however as nuclear fusion may occur, and that could release dangerous radiation T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: that's how lithium ion battery work, you know T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: anyone else use texter? If not, I suggest you do. It's a timesaver, and very handy. It allows you to create hotstrings, and those hotstrings expand out to whatever you want it to. For instance, I create a hotstring of mycontact, and every time I type 'mycontact', it can expand out to 'Eric Selvig 1234 Anywhere St, New York, NY 10003, 480-680-4495, ericselvig@pru.edu' T3/r7/2014-05-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what is pru.edu T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do I do a client-side gag? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the client T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Depends on the client. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: aardwolf mush then T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a trigger, check the "omit from output" checkbox T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how does aardmush still show channels when I'm writing a note? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is mush available on mac? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: via boot camp T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( google 'download mush client for mac' ) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ahh ok nah i need something for my mac. I dont have the time to setup this mush client and all my old stuff is on cmud which for some reason has gone berserk lately T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: anyone know if there is a way to 'force' the mapper plugin to record a cexit even if the exit 'leads back to here'? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason for it to...the mapper is only concerned about moving from place to place T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: why would you want that? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: rooms that don't have an ID, and have the same room name T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: because Aardwolf lets builders do such things T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you will never give it the instruction "mapper goto theroomi'm inalready" T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has nothing to do with builders, hans T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has to do with the purpose of the mapper T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: i know, but if you could force it to, in certain rooms, if you KNOW an exits actually does go to a different room T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: and the mapper isn't 'wise' enough to figure that out T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: in that instance T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Are you referring to nomap rooms? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: CMud's mapper knows. Granted, it's easier to do it manually, but having that visual cue so you don't bother going through that exit helps T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: yep heh T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and what would you achieve by that. if you tell the mapper to go to the nomap rooms it wont go. Even if you have put in a cexit T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: yes starling T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the cexit to the room beyond the nomap, there's no need to have the custom exit stop early T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: hmmm, yea i can do that, good point T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper will never have a path to a room of UID -1 T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're trying to use your clan's area exits, then make the cexit end in the first room of the area T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I always wondered what the point of the GMCP room numbers was T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: if they're unique, why not just tell us the actual vnum? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: e.g. aylor-21, sennarre-33, etc. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: because the GMCP numbers are numeric and the internal vnums are not. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: does that matter? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to computers, yes T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I've never used a mapper, so wouldn't know T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: The reason there are vnums and room keys is to allow to change the area without destabilizing maps. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: Ranger Haven change to Nursing is a classical example. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure I understand how that would destabilize. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the ability for my room database to know that UID 28268 changed from "Entering the Borg Ship" to "The Sea Witch" is handy, and I can do that formulaically because it's a number...the main reasons for rooms having both a numeric value and a string value is for efficiency in different operations on the server side T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: it would upset the spin constant of the top quark T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: if they ever find one :) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc, though, the GMCP spec wanted the room's ID to be a number (GMCP isn't an Aard thing) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They did find the top quark, anaristos :P T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Tevatron found it :P T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: correct, GMCP will work no matter how the mud handle its keys internally. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they found A top quark, not all of them. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: shouldn't call them keys, imho T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: poor choice of term T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I agree, starling T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: I believe there are at least 17 of them :> T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: a key is something that opens a locked door T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: a key is something to opens anything (such as an information path). T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: abelinc, let's march on immhomes and demand that term be changed. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: blame the elderly IT guys three generations back. They came up with the term. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the code can call them keys, as they are a "primary key" to the database, but using the term with players has caused all sorts of issues T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: well, this is the tech channel. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've argued it with Lasher before, but it wouldn't solve anything now (it'd confuse the people who are comfortable with the new term) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing about 3 generations back, it was an Aard construct in this context T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: im down for the march. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: bring it :> T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: you can always get in through the maze entrance :) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Will there be beer and sandwiches at the march? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: call it the Fourth Crusade :) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: and womens T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: will have to fight your way to the cookies T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wow, timing is everything... T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: you will have a warm welcome :> T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the addition of the keyword-roomnum syntax was a great thing for builder flexibility, but I never understood the addition of the [one-to-one-but-otherwise-unrelated] second numeric-only term either T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. why the room's VNUM is/can be different than its UID...they're both globally-unique numbers T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: that would have required that all mobprogs be changed before implementation. The key mapping allowed for peacemeal implementation. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: for instance, Land of Legend was the first area switched to Lua. The rest of the mud continued under the old protocol. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that makes no sense T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: why not? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because they're still referenced the same way, nothing changed T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not talking about keys T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: what is being referenced the same way? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take my manor room...it's VNUM 36396, it's UID 22150...there was no reason to introduce the number 22150...anything which existed prior would already have been using 36396, anything in the future would still have access to the knowledge that it's 36396 T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean just chop off the area key part? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is nothing whatsoever about keys that I'm talking about T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no area key part T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my room's key is manor3-1396 T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: it would be nice if a) room UID's followed some sort of system, and b) map makers would include room UID's on maps. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some mapmakers do include them on maps T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: feel free to input them into existing maps and submit to the clans for update :-) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: well, the short answer is that the 36396 is a a cohersion of manor3-1396 while UID 22150 was acquired more or less randomly (the next number available at the time.) To map both, you would have to have a table for a 1-1 map. While the 36396 translates easily to manor3-1396 because there is a direct mapping. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you're backward on what the 36396 is... T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: no, tell the clans to stop being lazy T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: vnums (the old type) aren't even generated for new rooms anymore, I don't think. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anaristos: the 36396 number existed before v3, before manor-1396 and before 22150...it was already a primary key for the room...creating manor-1396 made sense with the restructuring of the system...creating 22150 doesn't T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I'd assume the UIDs are just there so that every room has a "number". T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: But I've never used UIDs once in my life, even as an imm. Don't even know that there's any non-imp imm commands that *can* use it T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, madcatz...but every room already had a number T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: But new rooms don't get vnums T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: unless you mean the keys T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's wholly-irrelevent T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: yes, UIDs are still generated. It represents the next number in the sequence. You could think of it as the total number of rooms (or any object of the type) created. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: When I say "so every room *has* a number", and you say "*had* a number", it is releveant T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: the total number at the time of creation, of course. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all rooms get (1) a number, and (2) a key...all numbers must be unique, and all keys must be unique...as of when UID came about, all rooms already had a unique number T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: yes, Abe. The UID is unique and scattered. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: emphasis on scattered. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, doesn't matter T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: I agree that in some context it doesn't matter. But not in all contexts. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in any context T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: vnums are antiquated. Everything that uses vnums can use keys instead. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keys don't matter either T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: vnums could be wiped from the mud tomorrow, and it wouldn't affect a single thing T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: for a mapper like CMUDs, it certainly doesn't matter. It allocates the next room crated to the last key + 1 in the database. Which is really what the UID is. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: unless tehre are some really old mprogs still around T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: why are they called 'keys' when a 'key' is clearly established as an item which opens locked doors? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've covered that, starling T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't be changed T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: which is what I said a while back, but Abe said that was irrelevant. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I never said it would be changed, I was just curious T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the reason is that it's a database term T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: no T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: er T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: so T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: "key" is short for "record key or unique identifier" T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you asked why, that's why...it wasn't a good decision, but that's why it came about T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: so T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes us techies use jargon without thinking T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's all that happened T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: your bank techs call your account number a key :) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was no planning put into it that said "Yeah, I know that the people who are just players will get confused, but I'm going to use this term anyway" T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: do techies stop recognizing when their jargon is wrong or confusing? I guess so T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we do, at times T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: why do players need to know how the mud code works or what terms the programmers use? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anaristos: the problem is that it was put into the end-user-space T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's where the screwup is T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the code should absolutely call them keys...but the helpfiles shouldn't have T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: players knowing how the mud code works makes for a better game T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Do people other than Starling ever get confused, though? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: constantly T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: yes, everyone other than me is constantly confused T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: it makes for a hard life T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: but I manage somehow T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: perhaps. I guess I've been a "techie" for too long for it to have even crossed my mind T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've spent a whole lot of time rewriting a number of notes to make them clear, when I'm talking about both door keys and primary keys T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just use the term vnum T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue comes when you need to use both uses of the term within a single context T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: okeys, mkeys, and rkeys -- problem solved...maybe T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I will often as well, starling, and then someone'll come around and say that vnums are dead ;-) T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just kill the person who said that T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: and then I laugh at their corpse and tell them that now they're dead T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too bad you're not in a PK clan :P T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: well, keys could have been called domain elements, that would have been even more confusing even though most players have had algebra. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: too bad indeed:( T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't have been more confusing, because it can be defined T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: a key references an element. it's not an element T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: at least, in my m ind T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: defined with a single definition, that is T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: or they could have been called vnums T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: it sucks T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: and "key" can be defined also as a term having the sense of "clue". T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't have reused the vnum term, since all 3 values exist T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: mis T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: that isn't worth 100 T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: blah :( T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk. T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: ... the hardest part of taking my first microsoft exam is the workflow on the mcp website... T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hard as in "OMG, I'm not prepared for this!" or as in "Lawl, they said this would be hard, haha!" T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: as in that site really needs updating on the ux front T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... did Youtube remove the Double Size feature again? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: AardMush Plugin: Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow Run-time error Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow sub OnPluginBroadcast logffile permission denied. Any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Win 7 T3/r7/2014-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Sorry to post and run but afk next 30 min T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so my mom forgot her email password, and tried to reset her password, and it sends it to an email she forgot, she has the same password for facebook, any way to recover the info from her phone(iphone)? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( why can i only create 2 buttons ON blowtorch ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Simple Alias to kill/engage in combat with all mobs in a room? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: wear staff;brand T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Nothing simple about it unless you have an area attack. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( alia z brandish ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Thanks. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seekers have lev 1 staff of runes with area attack T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sorry, 11 lev T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( one west from start of seekers, then buy 1 ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as a SC war, he can't brandish and won't get any area attacks T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't really see why a level 1 qsitter would want to engage the whole room though T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Gold. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( to lazy to type start of mob keyword ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: to delay others in a gq? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best way to get both gold and QPs is to turn off noexp :P T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: I'd much rather sit at lvl 1 thanks. -_- T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( hemmeroids ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best way for a qsitter to get gold is to sell off a TP every now & then...lowbie MOBs simply don't drop much T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also cards and aarch pieces T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Agreed. But I do use my TPs. Often. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: My alias' disappear every time I close the MUSHclient? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: where did you save your mush files? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd guess your world file isn't saving.... T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you save it as a mca file and so on T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: have you installed mush in program files? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: I'm not sure. I just hit save. Am I supposed to export it? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I save my aliases, triggers, and macros all the time just in case something like that happens. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Thanks, I'll look around. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Is there a way to create an alias that would take the comm 'hunt' and apply it to my Qmob, like 'hunt' + varQmob, whatever I need to call up. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bast has a plugin that does that T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you would create that alias clientside, clientside aliases and scripts can do anything you can think up. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are auto-hunting scripts available...it won't automatically hunt "your q target", because the information that you get from questor doesn't tell you what to hunt T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd need to tell it what to autohunt T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( you can make an easy autohunt trigger also ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: But the comm 'q info' will throw up a bunch of info, including my mob. There has to be a var sent to my client? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. questor tells you to kill "A green-nosed goblin", but you cannot type "hunt a green-nosed goblin", because those are not all keywords for it T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gives you the MOB name, it does NOT give you what to hunt T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you hunt keywords, not names T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mobnames and keywords are different things T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: to clarify, the mob name is not the mob keywords T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can couple that with a mob db. It won't be foolproof either, since mobs with the same name across different mobkeys won't necessarily have the same keywords. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: in abelinc's example, the keyword could simply be 'goblin', and green-nosed has nothing to do with it, least of all 'a' T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yes, you get that info in a variable already...that variable just isn't enough information to reliably hunt it T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: The mob is still bound to a keyword in SOME database? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the different-level version of guards in amador have differing keywords for the same MOBname T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: is (.+) from here with $1 T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in a database that you have T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Native or otherwise, I should somehow be able to access it. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forlife: that would be a very bad trigger T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( why Abe ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are good hunt scripts, use those rather than what you propose T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: relational data is where the true power of scripting is going to shine through, but typically the user has to put together that data on his own (or find someone willing to share theirs). T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: because you'd get people doing things like: T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, (1) it only works at all if your hunt is at 100%, (2) it doesn't do a sanity-check that it's only giving directions, so it's hugely-abuseable T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa is recall;run 2s;give all xoxa;drop all;quit quit from here T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: those were the days, when that trigger would work. ;) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you forgot the period T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: i forgot it for a reason. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( ahh, im using it for blowtorch and it works amazing :-) no scripts for me ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: So I have to compile a database of every lvl 1 Qmob? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, better to do more inocuous things like is tech I suck from here. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: I suck T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa snickers with you about your shared secret. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forlife: type "tech -h 5" and see why it's a bad trigger ;-) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I think he did it... T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: was last on 5 seconds ago :( T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: xurim if you make a trigger that gets the quest, links the name to a keyword from your database and starts hunting it, you are verey vrey close to botting T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: But still not botting. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( oh yeah Abe, im a wolf so my hunt works 100% , not like the hunt other classes get thats abit different ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: If I scripted something that got the q, went to the location, killed the mob, and returned, it would be botting. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you scripted just going to the MOB, it's botting... T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It would be botting if the 'kill' command is stacked on the run T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: that is true, though it is not the only requirement. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: The kill won't be scripted. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should not be going somewhere without entering a command T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: stacking the kill command is still illegal. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And yeah, you probably can't trigger the quest message by going there T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: I only want an auto alias that hunts, that's all. Movement etc. is still input. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a specific exception to the rule to allow for autohunters (but doesn't allow for auto-mazewalkers) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then get basts autohunt plugin T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: I loathe plugins. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: But I'll try it. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Then have fun using MUSHclient! T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using a dozen plugins already... T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you can use mushclient without plugins. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's no difference between a plugin and an alias, except the plugin is a cleaner implementation T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( autohunt script/triggers is legal but if you leave keyboard and enter agro room and starts fighting its illegal ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: You know what I meant. "External" plugins, as in not created by either me or the client's creator. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you should never leave the keyboard when hunting anyway. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: no, we did not know what you meant. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: all the plugins you use are external T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you said, 'I loathe plugins'. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "the client's creator" is no better or worse than Bast...he's just another Aard player T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Sigh. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's NOT the MUSHclient creator T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: qt T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: xurim, you seem intent on figuring out how close you can get to breaking the rules without doing so. That is a very unhealthy and dangerous place to be T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: Know your boundaries T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: I'd never bot. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: many people have said that before. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and many people crossed that line T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the line moved, too T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: one person even admitted that he never meant to bot, it just became easier to do so, and he got caught. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: You're suggesting I shouldn't script this? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Botting is your enemy... T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Autohunt is fine T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the script is easy. Just a bunch of triggers T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Really, just one trigger would suffice. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: for a full autohunt? just 1 trigger? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: I know, but everyone's saying I shouldn't be testing the boundaries so closely, as I'd be botting. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( yes ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than doors, at any rate... T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: never script anything that, if an imm chose to, could cause your character to continue playing T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: I can't see that happening in a single trigger. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one trigger per prac % T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( passdoor works well with autohunt :-) ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: nah, you can combine it all into regex it. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: yea, autohunt is legal T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: passdoor doesn't get through nopass doors... T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: just need another one for doors. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( Xoxa helped me a few daya ago with my tegex for autohunt ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not to mention when Lasher decides to change the hunt messages without notice :), WinkleWinkle's plugins are still broken T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the trigger that forlife posted was a single trigger, and it will accomplish a vanilla autohunt T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at Bast. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Me likes Winklewinkle bot gone. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not the best solution, but it will get you there T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( yip Abe, works fine for a basic autohunt trigger :-) ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forlife: change the (.+) into (north|south|east|west|up|down) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: i wasn't aware i helped you with an autohunt trigger. hmm. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You are certain that a thing is gossip I'm a botter from here T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: holy crap didn't think that would work T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it worked 10 mins ago, why would you think it wouldn't work now? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: i got him to quit earlier. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: oh, wasn't reading T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nuke 'em all T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: will it load faster then Abe ? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will not let us do what we've been doing to you T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: help me I'm drowning in a sea of stupidity T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: So the autohunt includes movements? Clever. "Mob is east" -> "e", "Mob is north" -> "n" T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( what will north,west in the place of (.+) do ? ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right now, it says "anything between the word 'is' and 'from here.' should be sent to the MUD without thinking further T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now it's "is form here." to be sent...that would make it only listen to the 6 directions T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xurim Tech: But isn't that botting? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope, autohunt is ok T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've already said that autohunt has been expressly added as an exception to the rules T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And make sure to stick a ^ in front of your regex T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( ahhh i see, thank Abe ! il do that ) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unfortunately, there's no real benefit to a ^ for most hunt messages T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The hunt messages start on the beginning of the line T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: because you're still using .* T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: so whether you anchor it or not, it's still saying, 'match anything up until this certain spot T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually yeah, the new messages do start specifically enough...they were changed a while back T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: /^You are certain that ,,,/ won't work? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: help me I'm drowning in a sea of stupidity T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you shouldn't use replay or tell -h :p T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so "^You have no idea...", "^There are traces of...", "^The trail of...", "^You are confident that...", and "^You are certain that..." T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: used to be differe, though. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: wow, where did my nt go? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not impossible (though extremely unlikely) for a line that is normally sent to you starting at the beginning of the line to end up tacked onto another line (ie, a prompt without %c). The ^ ensures your trigger only fires when the pattern starts at the beginning of the line. The $ is there to limit spoofers who might try to tack on more information. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, mxp can make that interesting T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you might even end up with random fires due to room descs coincidentally using those phrases, and an even more rare subset of that is that the particular phrase in room descs happens to start at the beginning of a line. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yay for notes finally having | prefix :-) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth seems to think you have the right idea. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: apparently ColourNote doesn't like to work with parameters in variables. testcolor = "red, \"\", Testing", ColourNote(testcolor) fails. Same thing if I do "\"red\", \"\", \"Testing\""... T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: anyone have a workaround? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: or know a way to do that? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: ColourNote takes three parameters .. why are you trying to throw everything into a single variable? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: because the output I want can have anywhere from 6 to 18 parameters. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You can parse it and use table.unpack I think T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and so I want to concactenate all the possible combinations using 'if' statements and then colournote the end result. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Parse the arguments into a table, then use ColourNote(table.unpack(arglist)) T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: hmm, that might work. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: attempt to call field 'unpack' error, haha. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it's unpack, not table.unpack T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: now that the smaller portion of the script is working, it's time to get the rest of the script working. T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mendaloth Yes T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HobiWan Wario Tech: anyone know which portal is to empy? T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: none T3/r7/2014-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HobiWan Wario Tech: ahh too bad T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylertwo Tech: is it possible to disable twitch emoticons? T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain Marvel Tech: lo.. latest version of mush is ? T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: depends on what you mean by MUSH. T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: aardmush or mushclient? T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: mushclient is 4.92, aardclient is r1797 T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at Askani. T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slethrin Tech: so my mana/hp br in mushclient has vanished and toggling and untoggling in the view menu does nothing.. any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinwoo Tech: try resetaard T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slethrin Tech: ok its back, phew T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( restart mush ) T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( playing aard ON a tablet while charging it, is it very bad for the battery? ) T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( why do you say NO Turie ) T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I play with my tablet while it is charging. T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( for how many months ? ) T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The last 2 years give or take. It is an old Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( Wow thats long time, how many hours will you say it take to discharge after two years ) T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: As long as Abelinc is old. T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( Heh, good enough. ty Turie.. ) T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MrBigCow backstabs (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe with his EVIL fake dagger! T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( i gathered playing open north Edge gives the battery life a massive boost. ) T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( ON* ) T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: does anyone else have a problem with 'mental balance' in bast spellup? T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: whenever mental balance runs out the automatic spellup's stop and I need to manually cast that one before spellup is resumed T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone got a solution for exploding browser syndrome? T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: use a diff one? T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't really an option T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a windows xp box, so your non-naff options are firefox, firefox and firefox T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ksprite Tech: using firefox T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's probably an issue with the ghostery plugin, but i'm loathe to remove it T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: anyone here with php experience? T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: what's the question T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i'm trying to create a price comparison website and i need to create a spider that extracts products and prices from various webshops T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i'm unsure of how to structure it. T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i was thinking of making a seperate cli script for each webshop in order to throttle the spider to obey robots.txt T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: but i'm worrying that i'll be doing a lot of copy/paste between the scripts T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: i don't really know what my question would be though... T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: "any suggestions on an approach?" seems a bit vague... T3/r7/2014-05-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: is making a generic webshop-crawler class and then extending on that for each webshop the way to go? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: quick refresher: are ()s the only way to group things in regex? for example... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: i want to write a regex pattern to match the following, if the tell tag is present or not T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Quadrapus tells you 'blah' and {tell}Quadrapus tells you 'blah' T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ^([{]tell[}])? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: okay, good... but now i actually want to avoid using ()s if possible T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: will make the tell tag optional T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: because i dont want to capture it T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: any way to do that? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define "don't want to capture it" T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: does any Emerald Knight know that their website is down? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalfir Tech: Anyone use Bast's eqDB and could tell me what I'm doing wrong here? The DB doesn't seem to update. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MrBigCow Tech: my triggers are not firing at all...can't figure out why...any help regarding this issue? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( what is the cause for a cellular network ON a device to go ON roaming mode espessialy early at morning and about 8 at night? ) T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: software bug... i mean, feature. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks, obama T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( does it meam the network im open north is not covered good where i stay and should switch ? ) T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( ON* ) T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: quite likely. usually devices will only switch networks when the other is at least 10-20% better than your current to stop constant switching. turning on roaming is a pretty strange feature though. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( cool ty, il try the network it switches to. gonna get the sim now ) T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nienna Tech: is there any way to save your zmud settings files once you get the "Corrupted settings file" warning? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: is there a way to reset Bast's statmonitor? It's gone a little wonky, always showing pup time as 20 minutes. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: or the combat tracker... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins reload blev" and "plugins reload ct" maybe? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: sup, plugins reload StatMonitor fixed it :) Thanks T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: hmm, why is MUSH trying to find the constants.lua file under 'world'? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: constants.lua is found in the worlds/plugins folder T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: if xrt area is giving you the wrong direction, how do I fix it/ T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: my friend bought a corsair RM850, when i plug it into the system and turn it on i hear 2 clicks, anyone know what this might mean? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: whats rm850? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: power supply. i'm guessing its DOA T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: probably T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: but i need to figure out how to fix xrt winterlands so it doesn't stop in the middle of the continent and finish the run T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: xset mark T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: maybe, anyway to test? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: is there a helpfile for xset? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: ww help T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: put it in another computer. hook it up to a multimeter with an appropriate load T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: does your speedwalk fail somewhere Dustpuppy? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: xrt winterlands set me to mesolar somewhere T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: then xset will not help you T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: ok how do I fix that T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: where does it fail? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: it doesn't complete the run T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: it just stops T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: did it work before? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: mesolar, location 55,11 T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: is it failing to find a portal? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: no. it didn't finish the speedwalk T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you probably have a mistake in your continent map T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: hmm how is that possible? is it fixable? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's possible if there is a new area that you haven't visited or if a clan changed their portal exits T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: hm ok T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not actually sure about that second one T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the first though, for sure T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: runto winterlands works fine T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: does the speedwalk use a portal? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: runto winterlands doesn't use your mapper T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: yes, it uses a two-way mirror T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: from reme T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "mapper where " T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: nods, what output does "mapper where 1305" give you? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: problem solved T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: had two mirrors T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: one was denaria's past, and one from reme T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: use the ID of the item instead of keyword. Or use more than one keyword. hold 'two mirror' T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: after more testing i can get the light on the mobo to turn on, just no power anywhere T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so im not sure whats going on T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: I'd still say dead power supply, the light on the mobo only shows that idle power is provided. You really need to test with another power supply, or the power supply in another pc T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: he returned one that did not have enough amps T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: so we had it running for awhile T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: ok. check all your connections. make sure you've got power going to the video card, ATX plug and ATX12 plugs T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: sorry, ATX 12 plug, not plugs T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: no beeps Hadar? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: removed the mobo speaker, lets try it with it in lol T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: nods T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: no beeps, he said he is just going to return the power supply T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: just got an odd error on the integrity check, error 32 trying to copy database from location to backup, and it aborted, gave me a link but the link is talking about the bigmap, any ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Were you closed out of MUSHclient when you copied it over? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: yes, and it's never happened before now, integrity check earlier today was fine T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: haven't done anything since then T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: in regex, how to tell it two or three numbers? [0-9]{2,3}? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: two lots of[0-9][0-9], and one of optional [0-9]. you can't count in regex T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yes you can... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: [0-9]{2,3} is correct T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at Definitely Defines. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: thanks T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Definitely Defines curtseys gracefully. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nemmy Tech: Anyone running mushclient on a windows tablet? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone know what bast eq, "error on upbutton or downbutton in drawshuttle" is? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: anyone know how to slow down an alias in mushclient? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: you mean put a delay before it executes? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: one unhelpful suggestion is to use an older computer. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally the only time you'd want to do that would be in custom exits, and "mapper help exits" tells you how to do it there T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: and the other suggestion is under mapper help exits... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods sagely to you. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: maybe i'm doing it wrong but when i stack commands making cexit. it only takes the first command. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: use double semicolons T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: because you're not doubling up the ; T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: double up semicolons T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: open north;;north T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: You need to escape your ';' which are registered as a newline by typing ;; T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: not open north;north T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: ahhh i see now.... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like "mapper help exits" sez ;-) T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: now if i stack. how do i make it hang out in the middle of command T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: from the top.... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: im in annwn T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it tells you in mapper help exits, too. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: tells you all about wait() T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: trying to cexit the giving gold to barkeep, waiting for the mask then moving west T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you read the output of "mapper help exits" (for the third time)? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it clearly tells you everything you've asked so far T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: once you do the goal, you'll have to delete the cexit though :) T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: the cexit_wait just waits for the command before checking for new room.... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: rule of thumb: read something fully before continuing to ask for help T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: no, you didn't read it all T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: i even gave you the answer, and yet you don't read. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read 7 lines above cexit_wait... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: i see it now. i'm a blind fool. thank you for the help T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: like I said, read something fully when you ask for help each time, saves you from looking like an idiot. :P T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: no worries, somewhat confusing on a quick read T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: ok i'm not having luck with the wait command... T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: this is what i typed. i just switched the semi colons with regular colons. what am i doing wrong. I did try it without the brackets first. mapper cexit giv 6000 gold inn::wait(<20>)::wear death::w T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: ... wait(<20>)... first, it'd be wait(20), and second, you really want to wait 20 seconds? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: wait(6) T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: then 2nd wait is wait(5) T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: i have to wait for the guy to come back lol. i haven't timed it exactly T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: ok going to give it a whorl.. see if i got it right T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you're going to give it a fingerprint pattern?? T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I'm gonna de-loop from this conversation. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's the hands-on approach to problem solving T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you've imprinted puns in my mind... thanks. T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: awesome sauce. got me a moving forward T3/r7/2014-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prolithe Tech: got it thanks everyone T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: is there any plugin that automatically equips the highest levelled piece of EQ in your event for each wearloc? T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you could make use of bast's eqsets. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: sorry for my noobness- but it seems bast eqsets requires manual addition of every item piece and my gear are of varied levels mostly. is there any automatic way of doing this? T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: read his documentation on it, you can do invid to identify all pieces in your inventory T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Thank you! T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarriorAngel Tech: is there a way I can link my mobile client to my mush client at home so that mush doesn't close when I log on with my mobile client? T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( on one profile nope ) T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarriorAngel Tech: thanx T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe . o O ( if your online with one device and log in with another device,the first one closes connection. ) T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: hmm, to ignore or not to ignore. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: when i press ctrl+], I see a ^] , so i type set localecho... and then they say invalid command T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: and you are in microsoft telnet? T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: literally says Welcome to Microsoft Telnet Cilent at the top T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: hmm... I just do a run, then telnet aardmud.org 23 T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: if you aren't already connected to the mud T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: and are just at the telnet prompt, you can just do set localecho T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ah thanks lol T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: you only need the ctrl+] if you are already logged in to the mud, it will escape back to the prompt for you to enter commands T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're already connected to the MUD, hit ctrl-], then type it, then hit enter twice T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bobolai goes ooOOooOOoo. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Memnarch nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, had done ans -h and was catching up there before seeing tech chan ;-) T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Memnarch Tech: he's the guy that taught me how to do it T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Memnarch points at you. How rude! T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Hmm.. my speedwalks don't seem to be using my aard ammy. why is that? T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: never mind. silly question, forget it T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/these-virtual-reality-headsets-make-farmed-chickens-believe-they-roam-free T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyler Tech: boo T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyler Tech: free the chickens! T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: lol T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dehadrass Tech: that is the dumbest thing ever T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe shoves Dehadrass into a barn and forces him to cluck like a CHICKEN!!! T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyler Tech: i mean that could be pretty funny tho T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: as though the farmed-chickens were getting digital-music instead of analog-music T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: can you imagine a yard full of chickens wearing head gear running around? and the total shock when they take the headset off to slaughter them T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyler Tech: sounds matrixy T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: "wait! my world! oh hai. uuuurrrgh!" T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: you humans are not really alive T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: matrix deluded humans pretending they are at computer playing a text game -- the irony T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyler Tech: game within a game.. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chew Toy Detreyl Tech: Gameception. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: you think it's bad now? wait til you have a million matrix deluded chickens! with my army of foul fowl I shall strike at the very heart of tis delusion!! *cackle* T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atle Tech: -10 T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atle Tech: -10 h T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: rankupdates T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: That was obviously a mis, by the way. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: attempting to figure out my promo calculator issues. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa's shifty eyes dart back and forth. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: anyone ever had the left ~2 inches of an lcd (laptop) display vertical lines, white and black.. and you can kinda see the picture behind them, and sometimes the lines change to red blue or green, and sometimes they disappear and everything works fine again.. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: loose cable? T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: replace the laptop screen and call it a day. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: i did, and i have two dead pixel in hard-to-see spots T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like Screen or Video care is going bad. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: heh, a small gnat or bug got behind my laptop screen and died. now there's a black spot up on the right top side and it annoys me every once in a while. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably more likely a roach T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: hardly, this thing's the size of a pin head. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i havent had time to tear it apart yet, but i havent seen this before.. i guess ill look on ebay and maybe take it apart this weekend T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Someone is wasting they hemp....I doubt that. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and no roaches here, thank you much. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a mobile device, "here" could be anywhere. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: can I recommend a place where i got my screen replaced? it didn't cost me an arm and a leg. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: sure T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone use bast eqset? T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do sometimes. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: worth using? T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It takes a bit to setup. T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: yea, i was just looking at it now, and man... a bit is a understatment T3/r7/2014-05-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I will be honest. I do not use it much. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: who has a double tracker? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: for mushclient, preferably T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: is there a way to display something like "


Test

" using MUSH's script functions? Something like Note(), but displaying HTML properly? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's a mxp function that might help T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: didn't see one that would do what I need, but will double check. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or maybe i'm confused T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: all I see are reset, getentity, and setentity. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: there's AnsiNote(), but that doesn't do me good, heh. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: tech T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: may need to rewrite the alias I'm working on then. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Just out of interested what's that for? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: well, displaying a calendar. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm my bad i just used hyperlink T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you're writing text in a miniwindow i think you can set various options T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: not writing it for miniwindow, yet. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: but soon enough, I probably will be. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think it'll prolly be easier to write for miniwin than for main output T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: possibly. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I just like to get the code working before I start working on miniwins. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: Why do i get excellent cellular signal from one room, and horrible signal from another ? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: Any ideas why this regexp is always getting null for the second argument? "^repeat ([\d]+?) (.+?)$" T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: The input I'm testing is "repeat 20 rc" T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: why the brackets? brackets represent a selection set, just ue (\d+) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: use* T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: that said- why would the brackets make it not work? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: Oh. Reading the documentation, I thought the \d was meant to be used inside a selection set. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: it is looking for the characters "\" "d" and "+" T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: no its not. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: %1 is 20. That part seems to work correctly. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: though anaristos is correct in saying just use \d+ T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: rather than [\d+] T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: When you say it doesn't work- what do you mean? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: OK. I'll change that. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: BTW, the + was outside the brackets. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: regardless, you don't need the brackets. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: if you were doing digits in the brackets, you'd do [0-9]+ T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Yes- \d is basically [0-9] T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: I changed it now. Still gives nil for the second argument T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: But I don't think [\d] is the cause of trouble T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: what is it reporting for the first parameter? null as well? or 20? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: It's getting 20 for the first argument T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: sorry checked history. i see %1 is catching it T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: err...you know. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Longhu :) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Longhu, check your code for other problems- running an identical alias works for me T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: All I want it to do is catch everything after the number and a single space, and put it into a second argument. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: The most likely is that you've misplaced your %2 T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Or mistyped it as %3, or something T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Or you have another lower seq alias firing on that line already T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: I'm printing it in three seperate times just to make sure. Doing a "print," and a "note" with and without string conversion first. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you do realize, by the way, that (.+?) is only going to match one character, so you'll never get 'rc' T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: I thought (.+?) is greedy T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: And it matches to endline, also T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: doesn't match endline. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endtime peers around himself intently. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: . is any character. + would be any character (1 or more), but you're limiting it with the ? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hilgenreiner SMACKS Endtime upside the head, wonder what he did. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: match ([^$]+) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: thought i saw my name :) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes (>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Endtime. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: if you're wanting to check if %2 is there or not, then put the ? on the outside, so (.+)? rather than (.+?) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: I was basing my regex off of how the client converts from wildcards to regex. It changes * to (.*?) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: oh wait, just tested it out, yeah, it should work. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: been a while since I used regex, heh. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: yeah xoxa ? just makes it optional T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Yeah- just realised that the ? is redundant here, but the $ makes it match properly T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: $ marks the end, the ? isnt redundant but the result in this case is equivalent T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: to greedly grab everything up to the end-of-line ([^$]+) works like charm. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I was thinking (1 or more characters, but limit it to 1) for some reason. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: thatd be (.+) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: nah, it'd just be (.) :p T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: hot damn T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: im going back to bed T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: Damn, I've renamed the alias, changed its priority, commented out all the code except my print statements, and it's still giving the same results. Time for sleep I guess. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that's happened to me before, not thinking right T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: you should use Regex Coach to test your regex. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: I'll give that a shot. Thanks T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I personally use regexr T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: both are great tools, though. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarSnail Anaristos Tech: never heard of regexr :) I'll check it out :) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: I found the problem. It's because I used to be a C programmer in a previous life, and I was thinking of %2 as a pointer instead of a string... I didn't put quotes around %2. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: So how do I keep from trying to use the garbage can from The Aardwolf Plaza Hotel when doing a speedwalk to a zone? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I guess a shorter version of the question is how do I stop from attempting using portals in the Aardhotel when attempting any speedwalk... T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: use mapper walkto? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: Well, my speedwalks use mapper goto, What's the diff between mapper goto and mapper walkto? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: walkto doesn't use portals. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: though if you try to enter one at the hotel, it should mark the hotel as noportal, then you should be able to use portals from then on. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I don't know if that solves my prob for now, but I've got something I'll try. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: I found the prob. I didn't mark the Luxury Suite as noportal. I was trying to use the garbage can from there... T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What are the thoughts of the Surface Pro 3? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: its no Surface Pro 4, but knocks Surface Pro 2 out of the water T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: sorry, just being a wiseass T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I thought asshat. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: crappy name if not a game T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: is there a way to get a rapid list of x.mobname and select the one you're looking for besides using the hunt trick. I can't use hunt as a mage, obviously T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what you mean by rapid list of x.mobname ? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can use hunt trick regardless you have access to hunt or not T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is there any solution to the problem in sandcastle?(moving with the mapper, but there's a 6 sec delay between rooms)....I mean the part where you have to go into the lamp T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: read mapper help exits and you'll find your answer T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: yeah it doesn't help me further...yes it maps the room within the given time, but when you have set the cexit and you wanna run to it from a different point it ignores the time and assumes it's a no wait cexit T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: use the wait() command...ie wait(6) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that's not the command I was referring to. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at Ambilevous. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: next time, try reading all of it. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Means you have a to add run e;wait(3);run n T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: oh, now I see it, I'm truly sorry T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: okie, i want to make a simple disarm trigger (not using a plugin), where i pickup the weapon that was disarmed to the floor T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: any website, that anyone knows that can help? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why not a plugin? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: the plugin doesn't seem to work all that well for me, T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what about it is unsatisfactory? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: You would need to add 2 triggers and a variable / alias if you wanted to do that- pm me if you want to know exactly how T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: with bast plugin it keep sending the command send wield all, and it doesn't work and it doesn't seem to pickup any drop weapons T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: make a trigger with *DISARMS you and sends your* and then get all.. to re-equip your weapon.. that's another problem.. at least you won't lose your weapon with this trigger. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i think i just need the variable for the weapon that is drop, and i should work out the rest myself T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: What I did was to set wield *, hold * and dual * to an alias to have a naturally updating variable for my wielded / dualled weapon T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: so * is the veriable? do i need to add "*" if it have a long name? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: astrisk is a wildcard. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: okie, thanks T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: so, yes, you do need it. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the * is a wildcard, it matches on everything. It's there to match on variable text, what you do with what matches is something further downstream that * doesn't care about. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: so basically its, DISARMS you and sends your "*" flying. -> pick up "*" -> wear "*" ? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for the trigger patterns, yeah T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiQ Tech: maybe put a dropall;sac all b4 the pick up T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, after the pickup. Don't want to drop and sac the weapon you wanted to grab T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiQ Tech: true put it should be a kept item, just saying T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiQ Tech: do yourself a favor and buy aard gloves T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are kept items unable to be sacced? I didn't think that was a function of keep... T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aard Bracers are no disarm I thought. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LiQ is agreeing with that Turie person again... T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiQ Tech: yeah, i'm tipsy and mudding T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we'll keep the logs going for ya. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i might get another bracer later on, but i've saving for a wish atm, T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: can aard weapons be dropped when disarmed? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, they go into inventory T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: aardweapons goes into your inv T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's a separate message for that, too T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: hmm i still can't get the wildcard to activate, can someone tell me show me an example? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just say this is the line i want to use "DISARMS you and sends your Melpomene's Betrayal flying." and Melpomene's Betrayal is the wildcard T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: "*DISARMS you and sends your * flying." T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: as dozens of triggers go off T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: and the trigger to send to get adn wear? its get * and wear * ? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: at the end of flying is an exclamation mark, and not a period. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: okie i will give that a try T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: it seem i don't know the send command, for wildcard T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: is the send for wildcard still * or do i need to add something else? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: Tried %1 or $1? T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: k i'll try it T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: okie %1 is working, thanks alot T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: yerp :) T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest just using Bast's weaponswitcher plugin, which already has a rearm trigger built-in T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot reliably use "blah blan and sends your * flying" followed by "get %1, wield %1", because the name of the weapons is often not what you'd use to manipulate it T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i would but bast disarm plugin doesn't work for me, it "wield" the weapon, and not wear T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wield works perfectly fine T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ...also note that if you wish to do the trigger yourself, you'd want a separate trigger for the different message that you get when disarmed using aardweapons, as well as maybe the message that you get when a dark8 MOB disarms you T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: not for me, each time is get disarm, it say i can't wield T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: wield doesn't work for me. it used to. but no longer. T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pay attention to the actual message you get...you would not get the message that you cannot wield T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: all i know is that it doesn't wear/wield my drop weapon after disarmed, so i removed the plugin T3/r7/2014-05-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bury your face in your hand and sigh. T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: does mudlet support unicode? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiQ Tech: 00000001 T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it seems the answer is no T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: mapper can't accept commands from triggers? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: send to execute T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LiQ Tech: which mapper? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: ty T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Does anyone understand why mapper doesn't automatically flag rooms as noportal / norecall and instead waits for you to fail a portal/recall in them before doing so? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: it doesnt get the data until you fail T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: with multi-line triggers, you have to use the semi-colon for line break? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: I don't know- never had to use multi-line triggers. Why do you need those? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's probably more like \n or something T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but my experience tells me to avoid multiline triggers whenever possible T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they don't work very well T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i am just messing around with triggers trying to learn more, i guess this is one of those things T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone know if you can do a delay trigger? (say.. 2 sec delay) T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i think thats enough of learning to trigger/alias/script, now that i know i suck at it.. T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone have experience with mushclient's script command, DoAfter ? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: or know how to send a command to execute via script? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: you enter your command in the send box and send to script. not to world T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: my problem is, i send it to Script, but it have a DoAfter (time delay) and the command i want to trigger must be send to execute T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i can't work out how to setup the commandline for it T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Askani goes, "Whee!" T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Does anyone have any smart alias etc for running to sendhia? I used to have one but lost now- can't cannot think for the life of me how I managed it T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: if you use winkle's extender, you can xset vidblain and then xrt sendhia will work T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: What does it mean to xset vidblain? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: it's a toggle to do some smarts when running to areas in vidblain T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: mapper will go to vidblain and search coordinates etc T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Thanks so much :) T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the server you're connected to is using security cert that can't be verified T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I get this msg on one laptop, on outlook T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: do you know what I can do about it T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: Does anyone know if lua for loop variables (for instance for i=0,10 do), is the i a number or a string? bizarrely, when I concatenate with a string, it works T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's a number, but in Lua concatenating a number with a string automatically converts the number T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think most of the time, lua can use numbers as strings, but it is a number T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hilgenreiner Tech: oh whoa. okay thanks T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(>ShaZaM<) ForLiFe Tech: Is it ok to play Aard while charging my tab? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: sure, why not T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I migrated to the current ver of Mushclient. ON plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper I get a run-time error no file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\MUSHClient\lua\ffi.lua' T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: is there a way to get those lua files T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: does mushclient have sound control feature? T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can add sound. T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i added sound, but its abit lond, so i want to control it, turn it down abit T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not that I know of. T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i look through all the settings and couldn't find anything myself, so i thought i might have missed soemthing T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: oh well, T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Askani: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=10337 T3/r7/2014-05-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Seems like PlaySound takes a volume argument, too. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: okie I have an info channel problem that I donno how to fix ^^. Anyone available for that? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: can't answer that unless you tell us what the problem is. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: =o. The pk Zagyg just did should of showed up to me, but it didn't show up at all on my screen x.x. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: do you have info channels off on main output? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: when i type 'info' the channel is on. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that's not what I'm asking. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you're using mush client, right? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: yes. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you try 'info pkdeaths'? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: it is on T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: so right-click on the channel window, look at echo to main window, echo other, and make sure info is on. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: all of them are checked. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: then type noinfo T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: what does it say when you type that? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: no longer recieve game info T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: then toggle it back. maybe you just missed it. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: is this a troll attempt? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins mischievously. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: no o-o. I get like raid infos and such =/. But for some reason I'm not getting pk kills/deaths made by clannies T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and you have info deaths on? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: type 'info' and see what channels you actually have on. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: under Info I have claninfo/clanonly/deaths/notes/other/pkdeaths/raiding T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: do you have a trigger gagging them? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: then you either missed it, or it's gagged. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: given your current settings, you must have a plugin that's gagging the info... T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: O_O. How i'd turn it off or figure out which trigger it is? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: do you have that extra channel plugin? I forget who made it. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: it's a tracker channel T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: so you don't have to use gt/spouse for trackers. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite rapidly nods twice at Vasrysn, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite prods HyperDrive Pheonixs into action! T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: naw only things i have is SnD, and Bash gq/cp/quest T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: called Sharptracker btw, not sure who made it but i could probably find out T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: opochtli T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyperDrive Pheonixs Tech: sharpshooter/tracker is done by opoch T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: next thing I'd try is to restart mush/comp =P T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's a good 27-28 inch monitor T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: iiyama T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: wud T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I have an Iiyama prolite 27incher, it's rather good.. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: first time I hear about that brand :p T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get a 1440p dell ultrasharp T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: anyone ever had the bast miniwin quest plugin have its entire miniwindow go black? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes. Reload the plugin and that is the workaround. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: hmmm, now it just disappeared... perhaps once i complete this quest.... T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: thanks btw T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does that. sorry T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: no worries lol T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: yep, a quest even fixed it T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: event* T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I use the Events window since I have limited screen space. It does CPs, Quests, and GQs. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: advics me on what monitor I should buy, around 27 inches T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: advise* T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: bigger is better T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 32 inches is too big I feel T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you just need to get used to it T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yah probably T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: move backwards slowly, and then forwards again T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: keep doing that until you find the ideal position T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: anyone know lua command to round a number down? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: math.floor function not working T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HorkewKamuy Tech: funtion runs, but it doesn't seem to be actually rounding down... value is the same after the function runs T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: finally, managed to control the sound in mushclient :> T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: hmm... trigger not getting trigged, but i did the trigger test, which came out ok T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: trigger tests don't test against actual text, they just look for syntax errors. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: hmm have to wait 17mins to see the next proper Quest command line :< T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: just do \\\Simulate("QUEST: You may now quest again.") T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: aye, the trigger didn't go off :( T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Then your trigger is wrong. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Use \n at the end of the string, btw T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: in Simulate() T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at BobTheGreat. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: \\\Simulate("\nQUEST: You may now quest again.") T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: [string "Command line"]:1: unexpected symbol near '\' T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: is your script prefix \\\? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: or you can use the echo command T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: normally is for AardMUSH T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: my bad, i put it at the end of the sting T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I prefer Simulate, less lag. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just tried it again with the 2nd string xoxa posted,... no work T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: then your trigger is wrong. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: how is your trigger set up? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: Trigger : QUEST: You may now quest again. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: Send: PlaySound (1, "beep-01.wav", false, -20) T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: send in: Script T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Try this: \\\Simulate("QUEST: You may now quest again.\n") T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: it works for me T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: do yourself a favor and add: Note("Trigger fired!") in the send box T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: then do the simulate again. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: if it prints trigger fired, then it's working, and your sound is what's wrong. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: okie, that worked T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: which worked? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: simulate and trigger fired T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: so it's your sound then T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i can hear the sound T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: okay. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: good, then problem solved T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: have to wait 8mins to see it it work when the proper message comes in T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: see you guys in 8..... .... ... T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: helps if your prompt ends in %c T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: aye T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: nope, didn't go off, hmm wonder if it because mushclient was minimize or something T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: help T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: has anybody ever heard of malware that does this: T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: plays commercials T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you google it? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: like, my speakers will play what sound like garbled commercials and weather updates even when I'm not logged into windows (like, I just restarted the pc) T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes. It's infected yahoo, youtube, and all kinds of embedded-video sites. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wonderful, how do i fix? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Format your harddrive and reload your OS. Then stay away from those websites! T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you got an anti-malware/virus program? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: some audio equipment used to pickup CB chatter -- was annoying if recording T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'm running malware bytes but if anyone knows anything more, please lmk T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: does it show up on malware? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the equipment may require an aluminum-foil hat T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I say format the harddrive and just leave it there collecting dust. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably not. Malware-detection apps don't really do more than look for broken code, so if the ad-content provider minded their p's and q's they'll slip by as legitimate third-party content. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest running cCleaner(deep clean), Malware Bytes, and Windows Registry Repair. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: rkill is another good program for malware T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the "garbled" part indicates something T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, broken content. That probably came about because some madmen grunt was thinking more about jetting out early for the holiday than doing things right. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the "garbled" as in "extraneous overlayed" - a sensitive-microphone picking up background, or the equipment picking up emf (AM radio or CB) T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: sigh, malware didn't fix T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if i try and shut down some processes it says "Access denied" T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: translation: Microsoft "knows" that you are incompetent T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zade: Now, Now. That is a bit harsh. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why would i be unable to terminate a process in the windows task manager? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: download rkill T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyler Tech: terminating it would make the system unstable, maybe. so windows makes it so you cant T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: System processes are protected, ones that are required for the function of windows T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (unless a trojan or virus took over the Win7 system and is preventing self-deletion) T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i ran rkill T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: nothing detected, killed aardwolf and one other process T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (never visit any russian websites) (without first doing a full Ghost backup) (sad when a Win 7 full-backup spans several dvds) (dvds are cheap though) T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i wouldn't knowingly visit a Russian website, don't worry T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: maleware bytes blocked a few outbound processes to suspicious sites T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (no Win 7 here, so am likely confabulating bullcrap) T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: microsoft safety services found notihng T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: What is wrong with your computer? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: is it the one you are using now? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: it plays what sound like pre-roll video ads T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: k, that's good. K. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but no windows are open, and it does this even before i log into windows T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: did you reboot into safe mode with networking and try to uninstall suspicious programs? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i wouldn't know how to do either part of that question, so no :) T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: perhaps wrap the computer in (a grounded) tinfoil (hat) - keep out the alien noises T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: k, can you access a browser? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: zade they aren't alien noises, they are wireless advertisements and celebrity gossip and other random crap T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "the cure may be worse than the disease" T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/start-computer-safe-mode#start-computer-safe-mode=windows-7 T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: or search google for how to reboot into safe mode, choose safe mode with networking so you can access internet. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ok, and then what? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: then you will need to open windows menu, control panel, then add remove software/programs T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: look for anything that is suspicious, or you aren't sure what it is...this is your personal computer yes? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: would malware really show up as a program in this add/remove menu? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: "the cleanup operation was a success, but the computer (system) died" T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: look for suspicious programs, use google and search on program name to see what it is T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: this could take some time. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you are assuming it is Malware. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: zade this isn't open hearty surgery. it's not like removing malware can clip an artery T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: but malware is a broad category. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: sometimes these are programs that get smuggled into to valid installs and are just shitty/malfunctioning. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I haven't installed any programs in a loong time, but I did visit some embedded video sites to watch some comdey clips and play some music T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: don't assume a virus, or specifically a clever malware. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so i suspect that's the culprit T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I don't think so. that would be rare unless you installed a special plugin? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: malware bytes keeping blocking malicious websites... "outbound process" T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: defective or inadequate addblocker T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: has anyone else used the computer? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: these look like the sort of sites that would serving the ads i'm hearing T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: do you have a large external drive? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: or large pendrive? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: with a recent backup of important data, aard.db etc? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i'd do another one just in case. i back up the important stuff nightly, but haven't backed up my .pst files in a while T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: be sure to do that. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: if all else fails, and you can still use your puter, just press mute. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: or re-install windows... T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: malware bytes flags some keys and values. can those trigger behavior on their own or do they need a program? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: otherwise, don't know what to tell you. if malware bytes doesn't catch it, it's probably really new, or got in as a legitimate program with an exceptio or something. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: because malware bytes has them default to "ignore once" T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: whatever malware bytes flags get rid of/quarantine. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: it's best to do a malware bytes scan in safe mode. T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i did on the stuff flagged remove/quarantine but this stuff it defaulted to "ignore once" T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: don't ignore, change to remove... T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: or you can hide your pr0n and take the computer to a shop... T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: you could google ads playing in background might get some help there T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i think it's fixed T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Was it with duct tape, a paper clip, some gum, and a sock? T3/r7/2014-05-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyler Tech: what was the issue? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: how do I stack commands such as #20 buy chip;give chip croupier T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: in aardmush if possible? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you could if you scripted it, but i dont know of any inbuilt way of doing it T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm guessing here since I don't use aardmush, but try surrounding the commands in curly braces, that's how it works on TT++. #20 {buy chip;give chip croupier} T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: nope. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are you asking how to stack commands or pass in arguments to an alias? to stack its two semicolons T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Until you get an answer the workaround would be to make a game alias for the multiple commands, and make aardmush do that T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for i=1, 7 do world.Execute "b chip;give chip cro" end T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: send to script T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in an alias T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: o.O T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bobolai is agreeing with that Askani person again... T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i don't get it either. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you want to repeat buy chip, give chip cro multiple times? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Try my workaround for a simpler solution if that was too much. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: is it like my buy pot macro, eg. F1 = buy 20 pot:(semi-colon) put all.pot bag ? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: He didn't want to macro it, he wanted to use #20 to do it T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But a macro isn't a bad workaround either T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: no askani, he wants to buy 20 pots by executing buy pot twenty times, not in one go T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: oh, my bad T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: oh, right, I can also set a button to perform buy chip, give chip cro, and just press the button like mad lol T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: Does the "#20 " syntax even work at all in aardmush? It isn't working for me. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: i was wondering. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: it doesent T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: loops like the one I suggested work T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: doesnt look like a quick easy way to do it from the command line T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: got outlook issue, anyone with experience T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: plenty of experience of having issues with outlook, not so many with resolving them T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: come on, its a slow night... tell us T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I get The server you are connected to is using a security certificate that cannot be verified. The target principal is incorrect. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for my bluehost accounts T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: this just happened? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: been happening T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: on, off? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: since heartbleed? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: my other laptop has no issues T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: both have the same verson outlook? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I don't remember T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just randomly guessing here, it sounds like outlook updated the security setting and your mailhost haven't T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or use use antivirus that tries to scan SSL connections T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll try to remove the mail account and add again T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no antivirus, cept this microsoft thing T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: after that, write a email to the NSA and tell them to **** off T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I should prolly just email bluehost but T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do both of your laptops use the same protocol for mail ? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I feel like it's an ms issue T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: my other one's in my other appartment so I can't check :( T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean unencrypted ones / no TLS T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i was just about to say, get the other lappy and compare settings T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, have you checked that cert ? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ssl for incoming T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes mail vendors use self-singed certificate so that cannot be treated as trusted T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't I just remove the cert and let it install its own T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: hm T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check also this one: http://www.msoutlook.info/question/613 T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a new cert from april T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: names of servers are important T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check issued by, issued to T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll check that T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well they're different but T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I put mail.bluehost.com it says wrong pass T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what if I change it to imap T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no difference, encryption is independent of pop3 / imap T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should rather contant mail provider T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: hm the imap account has no warning msg T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm gonna mail them later on T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably because you have used imap not imaps T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the cert is for *.bluehost.com, my server is mail.mysite.com, if I put mail.bluehost.com it says wrong pass T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's still ssl encrypted tho so is it an issue ? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: imaps is secure, imap no T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so using plain imap or pop3 won't cause issues with cert T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: because cert is not used with unencrypted protocols T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: posted a ticket :) T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: did you use alot of profanity? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no I'm nice T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: then you will get a reply in a month or so T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: bluehost are fast T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it's not a free account T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they responded, the server isn't mail.bluehost.com, but some unique subdomain for me T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: TrEz: the first thing I found in google when you first asked was this - https://my.bluehost.com/cgi/help/email-security-warning-when-using-ssl T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it makes sense now that I know what the issue is, but the error msg on that page is different T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also apparently I was using wrong ports T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like a boss T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: awesome! T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: hope you get it sorted. g'night! T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: night T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demoniacal Klaun Tech: anyone have the url for sharptracker 3.6? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: whats the latest ver of Mushclient Mapper by Fiendish? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "versioncheck" or "checkversion" and see what yours responds T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't care about legality, it's easy to get guns anywhere T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Heh. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: anyone ever have mush go crazy when reloading a script and print a bunch of junk? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's eqdb plugin? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: are the wizards on? have a question T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I think I cured my noise virus thing.. but occasionally the windows command box comes up with stuff in it T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: any idea what could be causing that? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: if you still have issues, let me know, and I could help T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kojiro: Are you using AardMUSH? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yeah, format c: T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: no, just a script file, script file used to work, made a change, reloaded and now I get Compile error, Unexpected symbol near + T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kojiro: The Mapper is creating a backup. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: There is no + in the file. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: [string "Script file"]:1: unexpected symbol near '+' T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but am i seeing the command box? have never seen that before the noise virus thing T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kojiro: Look under mhelp utils to see what you need to do. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kojiro: I see it from time to time. Bast's plugins does it all the time. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: seems it might be an encoding error. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: alright, thanks T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what does this mean: DEL /S /A:H /A:-H *.EXD T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: /s subdirectories /h and -h are hidden and unhidden all files with .exd extensions be my guesss T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what are .exd extensions? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: www.google.com T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlowMoos Tech: http://filext.com/file-extension/EXD T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=exd+extension T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: So, just FYI, Sublime Text is Awesome, until it hoses the encoding of your file, in which case you are epically screwed. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: How do I let the bast moonbot window re-appear? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Stay in an outside room. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: Hmm nope.. I get outside all the time. Never seen the window, after I closed it probably 6 months ago T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: is there a command to change the background image for mapper? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Is there a way to 'unexplore' a room or area in mapper? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: mapper purgezone T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: That'll remove the area from mapper, and you can explore it again. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Thanks. (: T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FuFu Tech: right click on the mapper room and remove T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: oh, didn't know that, hah. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I don't have 'remove' T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: do you ahve delete room? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: No, closest is delete exit T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: what version aardmush are you using? type 'checkversion' T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: r1431 T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: might be the reason why. upgrade. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Ohh. Little help on upgrade - is there an upgrade button somewhere or I have to download the whole thing? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: have to download the whole thing, but if you go to the aardmush wiki and look at upgrading, there's some specific instructions you want to follow. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Cool, thanks man T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Okay, downloaded the new version. Now re-installing plugins.. but getting parse errors, like when installing Aard_gmcp_mapper T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't be installing aard_gmcp_mapper T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: don't take the old plugins except ones that don't come stock. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: So, no mapper in new version? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper comes with it, always has T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: the aard mush comes with stock plugins, you don't want to overwrite those. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I see T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I'll try to replace the old ones back T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: the plugins you want to carry over are ones you've added yourself, such as bast or winkle's. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you'd be better off downloading the copy again (unless you still have the downloaded zip file). T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I do T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Brb T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you can copy all the plugins, but when you move it to the new directory, when it asks you 'copy, replace, rename', you should do 'skip all' T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: I'd replace all T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be a mistake, defines T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that caused his issue T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no point in upgrading if you're going to downgrade everything that you see, breaking things in the process T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: q r T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: blah T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: q c T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: by skipping all, you're only moving over the ones that aren't stock T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: qrs? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cq dx T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: look T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: what is your computer? T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Askani ( T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: oh look, abelinc just activated his cp bot! T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: I'm wondering, Abelinc T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Okay, got them back. Thanks. (: T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: horizongowest T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa snickers with Redryn about their shared secret. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the computer running my client is a virtual colo running NetBSD :-) T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nynego east is better T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm not pupping in nyne right now T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: nod, heard some rumor about you having an ancient computer that still runs today T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I had been running on an AlphaStation 4/166 before going into the cloud...it still runs today, but just does stuff for my house T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: sx or dx? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: dx! T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, alphastation 200 4/166 T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: how do I reset all the windows in aardmush to be visible? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: and draggable T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: resetaard T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: resetaard T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone else having problems with mapper, with art of melody? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: define "problem" T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i can't seem too mapper run to art, from recall T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: try melody instead? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i was using the room id T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: what room id? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: 14174 T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: Is it possible you've got a custom exit misconfigured? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: worked for me, so yeah, probably a misconfigured exit. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: so i should delete all the cexit in that area and redo them? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: just see what they point to, and check if that makes sense. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: do you have dance configured correctly? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: dance o.O T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: the custom exit to get to art of melody T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: not sure, i only started using cexit like afew days ago, T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: well the speedwalk to art of melody requires you to dance to get to it. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: You'll need to be in the appropriate room, and do "mapper cexit dance" T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: beginning of the area? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: before the area. You use dance to get into the area. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: mapper goto 32597;mapper cexit dance T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: when i type in mapper goto 14174 now, it takes me 2n2w of recall (before a black ebony boor) T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa peers around himself intently. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you jacked up your mapper somehow. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: if you get a bad cexit because you were moving too fast when you created it, it can cause lots of weird behavior. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: room is 32957, i will go and remove the last command T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: which room* T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you transposed rooms. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: er numbers T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I said mapper goto 32597 T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i copy and paste T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: if you did, then you wouldn't be in 32957. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: Check the history... Xoxa said 32597 T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you should do them separately, by the way. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: not with the command stack. that's my fault, really. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: maybe Askani typo'd when talking about it T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: not when entering it the first time. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: is there a command in mapper, to see all the cexit you input? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: mapper cexits T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you can also do mapper cexits here T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: thats interesting... i don't have any cexits in art ...... T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: the cexits would be *before* art T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you're not needing them in art, you're needing them in aylor,. you have to dance at that room I gave you. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: so mapper goto 32597. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: then once you get there, you can type 'mapper thisroom' to see if you have an exit there. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: if you don't have dance there, then type 'mapper cexit dance' T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: "dance"="0" T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: then it should take you to art of melody when you try to run to it. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: dance=0 should be from the "Exit locks:" section. What is dance equal to in the Exits: section? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: it should be the room number for the start of melody T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: "dance"="14170" .. and .. "n"="32425" T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: OK. Those numbers are correct. So it should work T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: test T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serpant Tech: sorry... T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: the n=32425 is in aylor the 2n2w T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: 32425 isn't 2n2w of recall. It's 1n of the room you're in right now. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: 1 sec T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: my bad, not used to working with room id .. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Longhu nods. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: No problem. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: okie, lets test this T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: mapper goto 14174 -> 2n2w of recall still, (before a black enbony door) T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Where are you starting from? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i've start at recall and 2s of recall T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you may want to visit each room in that path to make sure there's not an errant cexit T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: so start at recall, type 'mapper thisroom' and see if there's any cexits. do the same for each room. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longhu Tech: This last test you didn't start at recall! I was in the same room with you! And you ended up 2n2w from recall, not 2s. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i moved 2s of recall T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: found the problem, for some reason i had 3 cexits for art, T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: does anyone else having problems with search and destroy like using the ht command, it only searching the first mob and stops T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to change plugin T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: hunt messages have changed some time ago T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's outdated T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: oh that's why....then I have to search for an update?... T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: there is none. The creater left aard. have to update it yourself T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: you mean script?? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Devil Remps looks like he's about to run away. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Yeh. Theres updated versions though... the one i use works fine. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: you just need to open the file and change one work iirc.. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: word* T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I'm good enough at scripting to change one word.... T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: any help which word?... T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Or you could search for the updated one. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Sorry, no help from me on updating it. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: it's the portion w.r.t to the hunt message that the hunt trick works on to eliminate it as a possible cp/qmob T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: look for T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you need to fix one of matches T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: so i think there's a list of such messages as trachx mentions that will make the plugin search for the next numbered mob T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: ok, I try to find such things... T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need probably fix WinkleWinkle_Search_Destroy_2.xml T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: that is the correct file, And iirc correctly the finished (working) line should look like this: T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: match="^You are certain that .+ is .+ from here\.|You are almost certain that .+ is .+ from here\.|You are confident that .+ passed through here, heading .+\.|The trail of .+ is confusing, but you're reasonably sure .+ headed .+\.|There are traces of .+ having been here. Perhaps they lead .+\?|You have no idea what you\'re doing\, but maybe .+ is .+\?|You couldn\'t find a path to .+ from here\.|.+ is here\!$" T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: ;) T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: you should have one that looks very similar, with just one or two words differing... T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: i can runto nenukon but cannot xrt nenukon. Why/ T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Because Winklewinkle's plugin is broken! T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: how can I repair the plugin? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you have nenukon in the map? Also runto is a gameside alias. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: yes i do T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: so how do I fix this problem? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Alright, setting myself up for flames here but I need help. I lost my mapper settings due to a windows reinstall, and I'm trying to remember how to get portals working with it. I'm assuming I need to set up some sort of portal aliases for each portal I have? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you could do that, or you could just enter the commands for each portal. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I made a port command that got the keyword from the bag, wore it, entered, removed it, put it back T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: To help you in the future, you can save you aliases as .mca, triggers as .mct, and macros as .mcm so you can just load them each time you do a new install. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Turie, I lost everything. My HDD took a shit. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ouch. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that's kind of why I back things up on a cloud. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Yeah, I blame myself. I knew I needed to and never got off my butt and then it was too late. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: was it a complete loss, or was it just going out? Sometimes if you seal it in a plastic bag and put it in the freezer for a bit you can get it working again (long enough to get your stuff off it at least). T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: So, a generic portal alias. And I assume then use the mapper portal command to 'teach' mapper each of them as I go? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Complete loss, unfortunately. Lost all of my digital art, too. I'm more upset about that than my mush stuff :) T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: for instance, I would go to prospers using 'port share', and the mapper learned that command. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Gotcha. Thank you, that's the missing piece I needed. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Does mapper automatically know my tier? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as far as portals? yeah T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Thank you T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Thanks again for the help, got it set up and working again. Just need to add the portals back in but that's the 'easy' part. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: easier when you can stay in one room and enter most of them. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure there's anything else in/attached to the mapper that accounts for tier, but I suppose it'd be nice to get a warning if I tried to walk into a tier-plus room (like ringing the bell in Sacred Flame) T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: check the aardwiki for the room ids most portals go to. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Hm, you can do that without using each portal? I assumed you had to be in the portal landing room to add them. *studies the help again* T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: There is also 'mapper fullportal ' which lets you set all portal aspects in one command without being in the target room. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Awesome, thank you. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: so for instance: mapper fullportal port share 28336 100 T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I thought the room IDs were assigned by each individual mapper and not shared? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: no, the ids are gmcp generated. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: so my room 3224 is your room 3224. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use someone else mapper db if they let you. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I feel like this entire conversation needs the The More You Know star flying by T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: its why you can actually download Xyrico's map and use it as your own if you don't have a map database T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at Cruella de Purr. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: unfortunately, he's not online, so you can't showdesc on him. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: but if you know someone who has a large map database, you could probably get it off them instead of having to map all of Aardwolf again T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I seem to remember mapper marking rooms as norecall/noportal. It's not doing that this time around, is there a setting for that? T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There isn't. It is done when you try to enter a portal or recall from the room. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: It isn't doing that. I've tried to do that in a couple of rooms, and then later mapper tries to portal out of them despite that. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In the room, type mapper thisroom and see if you see noportal/norecall listed. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: nope T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It would look like "Flags: noportal" T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: And I keep forgetting the room is noportal, so I can't tell you how many times I've tried:( T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: I haven't seen it do the dance I saw it do in the past of marking ~any~ room as norecall/noportal T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: weird behaviour, hmm. you have the latest aardmush, I'm guessing, considering your HDD issue... T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: hm, how do i check T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: checkversion T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: checkversion T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: r1126 T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1797 T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: ah hah. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that may be it, then. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elysian Tech: OMG! T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is old! T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: ok, that explains a LOT :) T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: thank you all, fixing that T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That was pre-Spartacus addition. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: no idea how that was even possible.. backup time T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Lo and behold, not using something 25 years old means that it actually works properly. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Your version of AardMUSH was only 2 year old or so. T3/r7/2014-05-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cruella de Purr Tech: Exaggeration is fun. Regardless, thank you for your help, appreciate it. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AndroidGamer Tech: Anyone know of a basic small size spreadsheet creator possibly to run on jellybean? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: for mush I thought the .db file held all the info for the map as well T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: anyone here? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elysian shakes his head. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Daddy Milquetoast bonks Elysian on the head for being such an UTTER moron. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: How do I optionally match end of line? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: I have something like this: ds([a-z]+$ T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: and I want it to be, ([a-z])$ or just $ so that ds, and dsabc will both match T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: hmm, ([a-z)?$ T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: that easy huh... T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i'm missing some brackets there, but it should be. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayon Tech: yup, works T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: theres a lot of flash games that require to push a button or click very fast. what do people call the machines that do it for you? to buy from ebay.. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: autoclicker? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: mockingbird?... T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also slow down your CPU so you don't have to click very fast then T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i like to cheat the old school way T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean peeks and pokes ? then you need kind of dissasembler for flash T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean mechanical button pusher T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, save your time, just edit hall of fame :) T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: so, question...is it cheaper/easier to buy a new gaming PC than to upgrade my PC to one? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: cheaper to upgrade, easier to buy T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: how old is your current system? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-s5-1010-slimline-pentium-e6700-3-2-ghz-3-gb-750-gb/specs/ T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: is there somewhere a chat plugin with multiple tabs or windows? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: It can be hard to upgrade computers that you didn't build yourself though... T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I upgraded the graphics card at one point, but I may need to bump up even more T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: had to ghetto rig it because slim line has narrow ports T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: That's what I was talking about :) T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: so, what would i have to upgrade? ram? processor? graphics card? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: How much RAM do you have? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: and money T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: 3gb DDRM T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I don't know what ddrm is tho, lol T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i would probably just go with a new rig altogether. the mobo is 6 years old and end-of-life, and has a fairly low memory cap (and you'll want more for a gaming rig).. also for gaming you might want to upgrade the processor (which requires new mobo for modern cpus) -- you can probably get a decent i5 or i7 that will outperform what you have (and either be hyperthreaded or have more cores).. also in terms of graphics, your mobo is limited to pci v1.1 so you'll get better throughput on your graphics card with a newer board T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: ack, sorry for the blob of text T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: no I appreciate it Mye:) T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: gonna publish that book? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Mye. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: wow Dickens we want cliff notes T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I find your ideas intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: cliff notes: buy new rig, don't upgrade T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: IT is so wasteful T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean, when you buy your new rig from alienware.. then you probably pay enough. fair price for what you are doing to the environment T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: whoops, sorry, didn't know this was an EPA convention. I'll see my way out. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa's shifty eyes dart back and forth. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .... Hwuaijijal licks a coffee tree. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: Are cexits part of the mapper? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Yeh, you can add them with mapper cexit T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: okay and do you know what file they are saved to as part of mush? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Never looked into it, nope... I know there's some commands to list them... by area and such... but no idea about the file. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: hmm T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Try mapper help exits T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: not a command T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: You're using mush right? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: They're saved in the Aardwolf.db file. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: It's all database-driven. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: And not just "mush", but Aardmush, and depends on the version, too. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: yeah.I moved my .db from one computer to another but it's not loaded T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Cuz mine brings up "[GMCP Mapper Help]" T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: hmm T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: I sent a note to fiendish let's see what sorta answer i can get back T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: what version Aardmush do you have? T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: type 'checkversion' to find out. T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: the computer where I copied the mapper from has 600+ cexits. even those this one is copied in it only has 300 T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: r1543 T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: you need to update T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: latest version is r1797 T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: that could be the start of fixing your problems T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: well poop T3/r7/2014-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Damn... I'm a couple versions behind. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: is there a way to set a trigger/macro/alais where you can link a keyboard key, eg, XXX -> charge n, keypad 3 T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Game - Configure - Keypad T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: Game|Configure...|Macros... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Or you can use macros. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: kk i'll have a look, ty T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: well, the thing is, my "area spell" key is always changing, so i need it to be set as "keypad 3" and not "cast XXX" T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set keypad 3 to use a variable, change the variable T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone know the commandline in alias, to press keypad? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: having a hard time looking for any info online T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: anybody here? need some help with mushclient triggers T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just lurkers, ask and thou shall,.... might get an answer T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe here T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: LOL ok! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: well i've been using mush for quite a long time all the while with no problems, but this particular copy can't do triggers T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: i wonder why? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: helps if we know what "this particular copy" is T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: which/what trigger? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and what you mean by "can't do triggers" T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: let's say i do a trigger for "your eyes glaze over" and the command would be drink T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: there's no response =/ T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: mush on another laptop works fine T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: are you sending to execute, world, or script? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: make sure you're sending it to the right place, and that 1.) triggers are enabled and 2.) this particular trigger is enabled T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: that i'm not sure...which should i be sending to? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: if it's just 'drink', then send to Execute T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: do you have (space) at the end of your eyes glaze over. ? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: what should be sent to world? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: gimme a sec i'll go check T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: generally, you'll stick with execute or script. :p T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: damn...all were set to send to world =/ T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: so which file holds my mapper explored rooms? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: send to world should be fine for simple commands like drink T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: it doesn't for my case...lemme try T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Aardwolf.db T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you sure your triggers are enabled? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and that your trigger pattern is actually valid? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: yep T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers#I_tried_making_a_trigger_but_it_isn%27t_firing._What_did_I_do T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: oh fiendish, since your here, do you know the commandline for mushclient... using keypad3 eg. move n -> con all, (press keypad no.X) ? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: i use mush on different pcs, all with no prob, only this one lol T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: avoid keep-alive triggers T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: oh baby, now it works =P T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess I fixed it T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: well i use it more for login actually... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: thanks guys! and girls! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: what does the .mcl file do? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that stores world details T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Askani: you want a script to pretend like it is actually pushing buttons? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: so to have same mapper explored rooms, i just need to copy aardwolf.db? nothing to do with mcl? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes. make sure you close mushclient before copying the database T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: and an overwrite would do the trick when pasting it into another client? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: mages do use weapons T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: mis T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: wow T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: thanks again! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: database use is by world-name/db-filename match T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if the world is named "Aardwolf" then it will use Aardwolf.db T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: fiendish kinda yes, coz my AoE button is always changing, and i thought i would just be easier to have like a press keypad 3 then, setting 6 other alias every time i update my AoE spells T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarBurger Tech: ahh, i get it...this is much easier than setting up nitdroid... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can your AoE button be made an accelerator that calls an alias? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i have no idea what your talking about, but ... i can read up on accelerator if your pointing that way T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WarBurger licks The Jerk Fiendish. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: just to give you a clear idea what i want, Alias: www > charge w + keypad 3 (pallie charge west and cast an AoE from my keypad) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah, actually T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you might be happier with... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=DoCommand T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which gets you what you asked for T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Does anyone know if aardwolf sends IAC DO SUPPRESS_LOCAL_ECHO on connect? I can't think of any other reason my telnet client by default never shows what I'm typing T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: thanks i'll have a look at it now T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: telnet by default never shows what you type T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: windows telnet does T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not ever in my experience T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: linux telnet does, I think T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm writing a bare-bones TCP app right now and without sending any IAC stuff the client always shows T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose it's possible. but if you're writing the client you should be able to see raw packets T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: blah, i give up, my head is hurting... too much reading T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: DoCommand("Keypad3") T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: in script right? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: ooooh, my mistake was i didn't put in the () T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: ty sir T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: if i want to send a command to "charge w" its send.world? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in Lua it will be Send("charge w") T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: ah kk T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: run-time error, [string "Alias: "]:1: attempt to call global 'send' (a nil value), stack traceback:, [string "Alias: "]:1: in main chunk T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: capitalize it T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: oh T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: case matters in Lua T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet all working now, thanks lot fiendish T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: woah T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmail has an "attach money" option for emails T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: clever T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: Can Mapper find a specific room IN a specific area? I.e. something like "mapper find 'lake of fire' in 'descent to hell'" or some such? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: mapper area room T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: Doesn't that require you to be in that area already though? I'm talking about finding a path from, say, Aylor to a specific room in Descent to Hell. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: oh, I see what you mean T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Easiest to use a vnum T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just mapper find lake of fire, then mapper where 31050 T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: That's what I have been doing, Abelinc. Is there a way to see the vnums of rooms you go through though? I checked help vnum, but no luck on this port. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper would need a way to demarc between the areaname and the roomname in the search, which is a pain because rooms can contain things like ', ", -, etc which would normally be used for that T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "mapper thisroom" when you're in a room to see its UID T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: Ooh, neat. Didn't know about that command. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also hover over rooms in the mapper to see info like that T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "mapper help" categories have some good info T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: anyone know enough about windows 8 to tell me how I can make it so it doesn't require any password or finger print anything when logging on to the computer on start up? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I only know about 3.1 T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: it requires a password for user account so not even like it normally is pre-windows 8 where you could just put in no password T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: I do believe I saw a way to do so, lemme check if I can figure it out.. Though I'm on 8.1 so it might be different. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: I might be on 8.1 also T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Seems you need to use at least one of the security features between password, picture password or PIN. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: hmm suppose a pin is easy ehough T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: enough T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Oh. I think you can go passwordless if you Disconnect your PC from your microsoft account. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/disable-remove-password T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: I just wanted a way for my girlfriend to use my laptop without having to remember my password T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Sides Arystul Tech: a pin is easy enough T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askimm Tech: Would someone be willing to hold my hand for a bit and guide me in the use of GMCP? I'm using tintin as a client. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is Ixle around. I think he might. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askimm Tech: I don't think he is online atm. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: You guys following this Truecrypt mess? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueCrypt#End_of_life_announcement T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: peculation on the internet is that they were forced to turn over some sort of their private keys or it could be related to teh Snowden interview... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: Damn... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: Any other otf encryption solutions? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'm going to wait a few days to see how this shakes out... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: Yeah... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Is there any woprd from anyone at Truecrypt or a reliable source? Daily Dot is not known for breaking news T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: This has more info: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/truecrypt-is-not-secure-official-sourceforge-page-abruptly-warns/ T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: If it is true it is going to really suck... there are not many that are willing to be certified and audited T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ambilevous is agreeing with that Trauco person again... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I'd pay more for American - but I won't pay more for American AND get less of a warranty :P T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: MIS! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Totally appropriate to the convo too... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Mendaloth you just made my day incredibly busy ...and it was going along so well. Thanks for the heads up though. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: So, the internet is boned! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: on linux and firefox. is there a way to 'fake' adobe acrobat being installed? a website is sending me to an alternative url because it cant detect adobe.. dumb T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: could be something broke. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i think it is on purpose. I get a page with "you must have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed or be using a Safari browser. We were not able to detect this software." T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: anyone else getting random errors on Bast's eq inv plugin, (when you filter items, mainly potions)? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: error on upbutton or downbutton in drawshuttle T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hulkman Tech: how do u conect a mud to a mud client T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: other way around, you connect a client to a mud. by giving it the mud address? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hulkman Tech: how do u do that T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you start the MUD client on your computer T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're using a MUD client to connect to Aard right now T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: you're using a mud client now. it's just preconfigured to connect to aardwolf T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hulkman Tech: how do I connect blowtorch to a mud T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go into settings, tell it where to find the particular MUD you want to play T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: download the Blowtorch-Aard app, it connects to this mud automatically. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: what the hell's going on with truecrypt T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Something big but they are not talking yet T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: If I had to guess, they were given an NSL and forced to hand over the code signing key, and this is how they responded to it. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: NSL? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: National security letter T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Whatever it is has the security world in a mess T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's the general thought, yeah. Lavabit'd itself in response to a court order or NSL or the light. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: heh, ended support with Microsoft ending support for XP. Truecrypt is encouraging people to use Bitlocker. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: like* T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: something along those lines might make sense. At first it looked like something malicious was going on, but the new version that's been modified to only decode, not encode is signed by them. It being done in protest makes more sense than the reasons of XP support ending.. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I think the, well, ludicrous suggestions about XP and bitlocker were their way of saying "We're not serious and can't tell you what's going on" T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Yeah can't wait to hear the Defcon talk about this one T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Trying to figure out if GPG or something similar can take Truecrypt's place. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Unfortunatly everything else already had holes in them T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hulkman Tech: how do u find the host name and port number od a mud T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: TrueCrypt was the only one that got independantly audited and certified T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Well, phase 1 audited anyway, I don't think phase 2 was complete yet? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try going to the MUD's website, or to one of the MUD listing sites T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: well, we can't speak for other muds (since that's rude), but here, you can do help ip T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Phase 2 hadn't even started yet, no. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Hulk Mudconnector is a good place T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: the strangest part is recommending bitlocker. Maybe MS is behind it! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Personally I think it will be a cold day in hell before I use BitLocker T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Microsoft can't make an OS without holes large enough for a battleship, what makes them think they can make an encryption program, and who is going to belive they didn't code a backdoor for the NSA. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: well, you can always find the backdoor if you know what to look for. It requires that you are able to read dumps. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: it would be interesting to feed NSA juicy info :) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: oh I like the theories that it's a dead man switch. Maybe the devs are holed up by the NSA and weren't able to push the "everything's ok" button T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, I've got that set up for myself...if I don't type a sekr3t command into my tinyfugue every 6-8 hours, it'll hit the panic button }:> T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: ...and launch the nuclear wessles? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: I love the cloud, it says "bring me all your data so that I can pass it along" :) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: not if it's a private cloud ;) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: easy to build your own cloud nowadays. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: MS gives you a cloud account now when you download VS2013, so you can keep all your solutions in the cloud :) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: information wants to be free, man! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: the point is that people who use the cloud are too lazy to build their own, that's what the providers are counting on. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yep, we know who the hippie is. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: pass the blunt, Abe! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: not too lazy, anaristos, uneducated. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: https://www.threadless.com/designs/old-man-yells-at-cloud T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: What would having your own cloud at home give you? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: security, november. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: for one thing, backup. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: in that you don't have to worry about some website using your information against you. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: there's some real cost savings to public cloud T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not too lazy or uneducated, it's merely an attractive option... T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: No, I mean what would you put on it? Why not just get a RAIDed hard-disk array? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: <--- Lazy with little information that acually could be reguarded as "secret" T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa crosses his arms and nods sagely to you. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: NSA doesn't look for secrets, it looks for patterns. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: arrays and clouds are different :P T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but private clouds are an option for people that need some of the cloud benefits, but for whom a public or deperimeterised cloud is not an option T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I hardly doubt you're going to need to host personal SaaS on a local cloud that only you have access to. I guess a photo-share or something that makese sense, but its expensive to keep a small server (even if it is just a cluster of VMs) up and running uninterrupted. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: I love the redundancy of saying RAIDed hard-disk array. Especially because of the R! T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: November, if you are worried about costs you shouldn't be in the IT bussiness :) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades grins evilly at DemonSnail Anaristos. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I have a network cabinet at home with a sunfire server and an alphastation running 24/7 T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: that's not true... everything always stays within scope and budget, ana ;) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I'm not in the IT business. You all make blanket statements about people not hosting local private clouds being uneducated, but actually you provide no real argument as to why it makes any sense to do. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Eh the more you throw at protecting it, the more people will try to break in T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: Nobody needs a private cloud at home. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you keep your wife in that cabinet too, abe? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: no, that's not what was said. What was said is that most people don't know they can because they are unducated. Not the same thing. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Most people don't know that they can brew beer at home, but because they can't that doesn't make them uneducated. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: the majority of people assciates computers with e-mail and document formatting. They have no idea what they could do with the 1500 USD they spent on their laptop. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: on an unrelated note, anyone got advice for moving owncloud from one server to another without breaking everything? :) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DemonSnail Anaristos Tech: the proof of that is how many laptops Apple sells for their rediculous price :) T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Leonassan if you have the change Ghost is a good option T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Current host is a remote server, need to move it to local T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and clouds not only operate on the SaaS level T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: Ah ok sorry did not understand the parameters T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: but there are other configurations as well T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I mean I can install it via dpkg on the local machine, but I'm not sure how to move the existing (encrypted) files/users/etc. T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trauco Tech: If you have the room you can just move them encrypted and then decrypt on the new system T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd prolly run the unencrypt script on them where they are, then attach the folder to the other server T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: is there a way of gagging such that only a single word in the line is gagged? Instead of the entire line containing the word? T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but it's more of a pain to do than it's worth T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bobolai ( T3/r7/2014-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bobolai :( T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: if a VI uses a spellup script, he/she is gonna get spammed quite a bit T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: but if the messages are gagged, the spellup script ceases to work... T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it works if the messages are gagged T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: actually, it's less a pain than you think, I've learned. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: I have a VI friend, wanna learn how. Is the bast spellup script? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: and what gagging script do you use? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I have one that changed (K)(M)(G)(H) to KMGH. :D T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's spellup script already gags the messages which tell it how to work T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ah i see abelinc! T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: but you want to learn about TriggerStyleRuns. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: trying bast spellup now T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: ive been using winkle's T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: bast disabled leviation because Dexx casted fly on me... but when fly wears off, I want to cast levitation! T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: you can just do spellup learned again. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: well, half of the spellup spam is gone, how do i get rid of the other half? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: even as a vi? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even as a VI T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VI still needs to know everything that's going on T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Yeh, it's the kinda thing even if you take out of the main window, you want it at least in some separate window. (Not really sure how that works with VI though) T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the spam that drives the spellup scripts is gagged, but the flavor text is there to know what's happening...you can gag it if you want, but I'd recommend against it...then again, my VI friends have very fast readers :P T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: we sighted players can 'skim' the text... VI players, not so much... T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: besides, the VI engine talks really fast T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how practiced they are, the same as sighted players skimming T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: unless you know what it's like to be VI, I suggest you stop thinking you know what they can and cannot do. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at <(*)> Xoxa, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: I can pretend to be VI. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bobolai turns off the screen T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and you'd fail miserably. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: rofl T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: I suppose they could trigger some messages into showing shorter versions? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: they don't really need to T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I can guarantee you wouldn't understand JAWS if you'd hear it... would go too fast for you to comprehend T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I wouldn't go near Jaws. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kick it up around 475wpm T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: some have read programs like Jaws that reads over 400 words per minute. I kid you not, it's hard to pick up on what it's saying, but someone who is VI can understand it perfectly. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I heard jaws is a druid, tye T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they practice T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: oo, EA let Battlefield 3 go for free on Origin. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wut T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: GOOGLE TIME T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: lol T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yeah, EA's doing "On The House" with a free game every month or so. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: they've given away Dead Space, Plants Vs. Zombies, and now Battlefield 3. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: xbox is doing 2 per mo with gold membership T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: don't need to pay for membership for these. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: a games are nicer too T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: EA* T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: whats the download on it do you know? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: download origin, then download it from there. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i know i play ultima T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: bf3 installs to 20gig on my comp T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: which means ive got an origin account, from when they bought ultima T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yeah, it's a 19.91 GB file T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i haven't played bf3 for months actually T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i hear a lot of ppl say it's better than bf4 T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: is the game still free once the giveaway's done, if you've claimed it? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: yes T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: nice. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: no catch, no cash, free for life once you download it. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ouch, 19 gig tho T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: looks like they still have PvZ up there too T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they want people to buy the DLCs for it probably T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: quite possible. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and no one's going to start buying the original bf3 now that bf4 is out T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I won't, but still quite possible. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's the only reason i can see why they would give stuff away for free :p T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: but there are map packs in the dlc so the game play would be limited T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: extra codes but no one buying ? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea the free version for dl doesn't include all the other mappacks T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's good enough though, i had fun playing it for half a year or so T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: from EA: Free?! What's the catch? There's no catch. Grab full games, expansions, and more at absolutely no cost. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: is there a way to grab a copy of the game without downloading it? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: their claim to doing it is so that people experience what Origin is all about (and hopefully gets people to buy actual games) T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: don't think so. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: maybe through an online store, if Origin has one. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: 0h T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you claim it, it'll be registered to your account probably T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: well it's making me get origin, which i haven't had before.. so it works. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: origin i think has there online store T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: although apparently I can skip the download if I want since I have order confirmation. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they know most people won't buy other stuff T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they're just banking on the random ppl who buy the booster packs and whatnot T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolt Tech: I buy so much stuff on impulse on steam, why wouldn't i on Origin? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: well, they also say they give expansions, too, so... T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: its just a dif marketing approach, ppl think they get it free, then u go and buy a couple packs and they get the games net worth back from dlc purchases T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: see, it's working :p T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, they're not giving the expansions... T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: since this is relatively new (came out last week of March), they probably won't do expansions for a bit, though. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: imo they won't give out the expansions T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Redryn, their site clearly says they will. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: of course, they could be lying about it, but whatever. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: "Grab full games, expansions, and more at absolutely no cost!" T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's just a general statement T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they never said they'll give bf3 expansions T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I never said B3 expansions, either. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok, when i said 'the expansions' i was referring to bf3 expansions T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it's a possibility, but wouldn't surprise me if they say, "Here's an expansion to Dragon Origins! But... you gotta buy DO first!" T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: or something akin to that T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they might give expansions to small games like pvz T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: to get ppl to download origin T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but not for major games T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: but since it's in its infancy, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vanion Tech: bait and switch :p im sure they have a clause, subjected to change at any time in the fint print :p T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: no bait and switch about it, Vanion. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: they're not promising you one thing and delivering another. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: they're saying you can get games, expansions, and more for free. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they're only promising you this game is free T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: they never specified which ones. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods at Redryn. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they say the on the house programme may offer expansions T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: whatever, free game, no complaints :p T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: 18% complete, yay. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: removing all the porn ad/malware? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: only the ones of your mom T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: you like big women? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: why do you think its only 18% complete? *shifty* T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: whatever floats your boat T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: she does enough floating for the both of us T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: whee, now up to 73%... T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: this 20GB download is taking forever. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. i have 100/100 fiber :P T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: damn, you're not clanned, so I can't setwanted you for that brag. ;) T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can now T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: gee, thanks. I was only half-kidding! T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, i'm already setwanted T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it's costing me 24 euros per month. tv is included T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: feels good, man T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I bet. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I wonder if you need a driver's license if you were to own a self-driving vehicle from Google. Interesting, I'd like to ride in one T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it normal that monitors don't come with hdmi-hdmi cable T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, do monitors usually come with cables at all other than power? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: I think so yes, as with printers don't come sith the usb cable needed T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i think it comes with those standard monitor cables T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it has hdmi-dvi cable I think T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but my laptop has hdmi port only T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: better open your wallet T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torskman Tech: a hdmi cable isn't expensive, especially if it's short and a 'fixed' installation. no need for high quality stuff then :) T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: $3-4 sounds about right T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just making sure I'm not going full retard and missing a port T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't know the answer to your question, but I know all the different connectors irritate me. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: make sure to buy those super special high res hdmi cables T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TrEz gives Redryn the look of death. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: death ? "oh no" : "oh yeah!" T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: Is there a way to run to the first result of "mapper area xxx"? Except for clicking on it? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: that is alot of triggering, aliasing, scripting T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: Was afraid it was :) T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: winkles search and destroy does something similar T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: kk T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i've tried the mapper move, but,... early on it alright to use, but later on.. with more area openned up.. can be a real hassle coz you have to map out all the areas with cexit T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: that for sure.. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Lord Rovin Tech: but the S&D is indeed what I need T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: with s&d i would type 'xm XXX', it gives a list of matches which are numbered, type 'go ' T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: eq T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: blah T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Eh, I don't have an "inside" terrain color... T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: mis. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AndroidGamer Tech: Hi, is it possible to play angry birds on android without it using internet data? i played 5min and it used 3megs.. i cant turn internet off because im playing aard. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I doubt it. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Not that I know of..I wish. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AndroidGamer Tech: thats sux, to play any game on droid you have to put off internet :( T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How else can they show you ads that you can click on to spend money? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AndroidGamer Tech: im going to google for an app then to force stop internet T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: Anyone know how to get my client to display the last line of text? For example whenever I use config all it displays 40 lines then cuts-off the last line that says [ Paging : (Enter), (T)op, (Q)uit, (B)ack, (R)efresh, (L)ast, (A)ll ]: I know it is sort of a vague/strange question but any help would be appreciated. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: pagesize T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: 40 T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: even if I set it to infinite it still does it T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: just hit enter T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: pagesize 0 T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: or hit enter T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: or type 'a' to display all T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: even without pages he has that problem T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it shouldn't with pagesize 0 T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: thats what I thought but it does T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: when you type pagesize, what does it say? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: You do not page long messages. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: and 'config all' still shows the paging prompt? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if I understand correctly his client doesnt show the last line of anything T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: I think I will have to go play around in the settings of the client a bit T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: I will try some stuff out and ask more questions if I run into problems T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: well, your question IS quite vague. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: I know T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: sorry It is hard to put into understandable terms T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: 1. helps if we know what client. 2. helps if you explain what's really going on. if you're not paging long messages, you shouldn't get the paging prompt. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: the client is called Atlantis T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: oh, definitely not something I've used. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the best answer is to give in and use the aard MUSHclient package...http://tinyurl.com/aardclientwiki/MacLinux T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: Mac compatible T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: ? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soeth Tech: well I just might do that :D T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: I have a variable, "xuntidb", that was saved using serialize.save. it starts off with: xunti = {}, then populates the table. yet, when I do loadstring(GetVariable("xuntidb")), then attempt to view xunti, it returns nil. Any idea why? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: SetVariable ("xunti", "xunti = " .. serialize.save_simple (xunti)) T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this should be on pluginsave T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: function OnPluginSaveState () T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: assert (loadstring (GetVariable ("xunti") or "")) () T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this should be in function OnPluginInstall () T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: It's not even in a plugin yet. But I have saved it through SetVariable("xuntidb", serialize.save("xunti")) T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why not in a plugin T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: which then turns xuntidb into: xunti = {};xunti.Xoxa.blahblahblah T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Because I'm making sure it works before I commit it to a plugin. :) T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: the variable itself seems right - from the serialize.save from before. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it's just not loading properly T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: print(GetVariable("xuntidb")) shows it's properly structured. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno why you're doing it in such a weird way T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: what's weird about it? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: easier to correct any errors before it's committed to a plugin. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: weird, I finally got it to work, had to do it in a stupid way, though. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you're interested in the TrueCrypt story they're about to be talking about it on TechSNAP podcast which will be live soon: http://jblive.tv T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: does it have girls with plots? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Like plots of land, ie tracts of land? Huge tracts of land? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: we live in the middle of a swamp! T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: depends on if his mom's there or not (continued from last night) :p T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i can find other 500lb women for ya xoxo, if your that interested T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa snickers softly. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: Heh, Apple bought out Beats Music and Electronics for $3 billion. Wonder what's in store now. Guess no more Android devices using Beats. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: big prize for a not so good headset T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Go Boze! T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Go Bose! T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: be like Apple maps, only it plays music from songs other than the one you're listening to T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: how do you put an additional second delay after mapper cexit when waiting for the mprog to kick in after a command? T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: read mapper help exits T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: it tells you how. T3/r7/2014-05-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: interesting. on my debian linux, I can't connect to localhost. the hosts file shows 127.0.0.1 localhost appropriately, yet I can't even connect to 127.0.0.1. any idea how to fix that? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bozed Tech: anyone know how to turn off windows within mush client of all these ad ons? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Ok.. text buffer size, for an android.. is there a limit, keeping in mind I dont want lag? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bozed Tech: anyone know how to close the communication log in Zmud? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bozed Tech: anyone know how to close the communication log in errr Mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: uninstall the plugin T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: why do you want to close it? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bozed Tech: i like everything in the same window T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: then uninstall the chat plugins T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bozed Tech: hmm ok i will try to figure out how thanks T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bozed Tech: nice figured it out thanks! T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fi-Bot Fiain Tech: Droid razr, using blowtorch. I have a backspace issue. Half the time it erases half my message instead of a letter, then I cant erase the rest, it like... freezes. I tried enabling compatibility mode.. any other ideas? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urashima Keitaro Tech: don't make mistakes T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wirri Tech: is there a way to configure QoS for Aardwolf (using mushclient, windows 7 pro) T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's a way to make mushclient input bar expand if you paste several lines into it, where's that option? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: eh, it automatically does it for me T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: geez i can't find it :/ T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've toggled it before i believe T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have to run SetOption ("auto_resize_command_window", 1) T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is twitch.tv so high cpu usage! T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Because it is copying all your important documents and sending it back to twitch.tv T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: then to the NSA T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's the retarded flash T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: thanks obama! T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Thank Clinton and Bush. They are the ones who allowed this to happen. Obama just did not end it is all. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: oh, i thank them all! but mostly obama, 'cause he's the coolest T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: 2 party system ftw? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I became a two party system in the 1860s? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: Pepsi? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why i might be losing connection to aard/testport often nowadays? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use axence nettools (win) or mtr (linux) to check whether there are network related problems T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is borderless half the fps compared to fullscreen T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when gpu/cpu loads are under 40% T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lowering settings from ultra or whatever to low has like no effect T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, Teleportation is a success! T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: need some advice with mapper, with the area "call of heroes", the beginning room is a portal room, (fun, friend, foe), i set a cexit on it, but it still doens't wanna runto any room inside T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: 3 cexits? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: yes, 3 exit, each will port you to different location on the same map T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: hmmm...not sure then. It should work. try deleting the cexits and making them again T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: ahhhhh.. for some reason i had to do all the cexit "going to" call of heroes, that was why my mapper didn't work for this area T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambilevous Tech: Ahh yes...same might be true for fantasy fields T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rauru Tech: Anyone know if MSE does anything that Malwarebytes doesn't provide? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: hmm.. does any program need 32gb of ram ... even games? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: big photos? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i dunno.... i was talking to someone online and he said he going to get 4x 8gb ram... i was like....why T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I've been building 32G machines for a while now. 8GB DDR3 sticks got cheap, so why not max out the board? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: the way games are going, won't be too long anyway. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: also, it's going to help in the long run, especially those who keep browser windows open. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i feel bad now... i'm still using 2gb on my system :( T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: 2gb is barely enough to run Windows anymore. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exiled To Aphelion laughs at Askani mercilessly. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askimm Tech: Never was a big fan of windows anyway :P T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i wouldn't mind trying out linux myself, but i'm too lazy T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i still have this 7 year old sys with 2gb, only major upgrade i've done is the SSD, and that really improved the performance. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askimm Tech: I love solid state. I have yet to have a solid state fail me. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It just failed you! T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: actually, the problem is that all operating systems available suck in one way or another, even after 20 years they are still in the kindergarten stage. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askani Tech: i thought SSD supposed to have a shorter lifespan then the other drive T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: after 20 years, they should have graduated T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: compare the capabilities of the cpus they run on to how they use said capabilities. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askimm Tech: Its all about money grabbing and not debugging :P T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: especially in the area of security. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I think it's more in the area of programming competence which I guess can be boiled down to money. They won't pay for good programmers. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askimm Tech: I feel Microsoft and Mac are pushing "new" and "exciting" and leaving off "secure" and "stable" T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: can you think of a time that was different T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askimm Tech: haha True enough! I can't argue with that. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: "We're looking for someone that can admin Solaris 8 and 9, and redhat, and ubuntu, and Cisco routers, and terminate fiber, and install LAMP stacks, and debug code in php, python, and perl, which by the way our website is written in perl and built with make, except where it isn't, and you need to be a DBA for Oracle, MySQL, and Postgres, and you need to know wordpress and drupal. We're offering $48k a year" T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: you can have all, new, exciting and secure. Intel, which I am not very fond of, has built a cpu that can make security a breeze if only they are bothered to be programmed that way. This has been true since the 186 came into the market. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: and the Motorola 6000 series was always had security features which the Apple people didn't bother to exploit. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I really, really wish I wasn't describing an actual job, and the actual starting salary, with that comment. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: what are thy offering? A piece of the company? T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: $48,000 USD, annually. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: seems a bit low, that's a senior position. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think that was the point. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: That was my response to the "people won't pay for quality", that job, IS MY JOB. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I would ask for stock options, a leased car, and all-expense paid vacations as a start :) T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Though I make $51k a year now, since we got our first raise in 8 years last year. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Woo. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: there have been times when I have sat without work, not in a long while now, but I won't move for less than 45 USD/hr T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: they don't pay, I don't play (and hope my savings will last). T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: And they wonder why they can't keep anyone in this position. Once I transfer out (soon) they'll be at 9 different guys in my position in 7 years. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I hate not being able to figure out which of my 9 firefox tabs a stupid video ad is playing on. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alfgarsson Tech: n T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: chrome has that little icon in the tabs now to show which one is making noise. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<(*)> Xoxa Tech: firefox should follow suit. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: nice T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: didn't know that T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <(*)> Xoxa nods. T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: they should take that to the next level and make that icon a mute button T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: since it's usually flash or something, you could also set flash to ask to activate... T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadara Tech: Did not want to flood newbie :) I have a version of mushclient, but not the one for this mud specifically. I want to delete the one and add this one...any help suggestions would be helpful T3/r7/2014-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Insane Xantcha Tech: Mush doesn't require a specific install protocol, simply download the Aard version and save it in a different folder, open & enjoy T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadara Tech: Alright then...thanks T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadara Tech: if I type east;down into MUSHclient and the exit options are there...Should that do something? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: semicolons don't work for Shadara. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: She's using aardwolf mushclient T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: her client just can't process semicolons T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: i'm using aardwolf mushclient, it handles semicolons just fine T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: did shadara try typing two semicolons? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: what does Bobolai use? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: aardwolf mushclient. Hers is practically brand new T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: 2 semicolons doesn't work when it doesn't even process a single semicolon. not even 'east;west' T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo Shakia Tech: doublecheck if the client is actually still recognizing it as a linebreak T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: it doesn't seem to recognise it as a linebreak, that's the problem T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Le do, lo Shakia Tech: have her do 'say ;;' T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: when she types 'ft ;tesing12345', I see '(Friend) Shadara: ';tesing12345''. Which means the client doesn't recognise semicolon as alinebreak T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bobolai Tech: a linebreak* T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loony Lachdanan Tech: does she have command stacking disabled? press alt-enter, open input, commands. check that command stacking is ticked, and that the character is ; T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shadara Tech: Lachdanan Thanks that fixed it I hope T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loony Lachdanan bows before Shadara. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: any thought why i get disconnected after certain period, i have a trigger what makes "who friends" after every character saved message T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: stared when i updated my mush to the latest version T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: there are so many reasons why u can be disconnected T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heeheehee Heex Tech: nsa listening on you T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: could there be something wrong in setting T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: this is for sure heex T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drama on a Bludi Tech: too many variables? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: Hi guys, I got a phew question about the MUD =) T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: Anyone here ? '-' T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not until you ask the questions T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you should start with the question T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What are your questions? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: Okay T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: We gave ourselves away <_< T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: No one will ever take Tech seriously anymore. :P T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: So I wanted to know if the MUD is using any kind of structure to classify "items" T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyone ever did? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it is T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: identify an item and you will see structure T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: I mean, I need to know the access path to the flags, I mean the flags' name as a variable T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: So as to auto-id an item, know it's flags and then auto-uncurse if the curse flag is on T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're trying to write a script (rather than using bast's), then look into invdetails T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: try invdata as a start T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: I'll do that, thanks guys T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but "cursed" is just either (or both) of nodrop and noremove T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: If I don't understand something I'll pester you again :3 T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: Yeah knew that much T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awkens Tech: Damned mush died when I tried to read that help <.< T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: Either you can't remove it or can't drop it T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then not sure what you were looking for, even just using ident output is easy totrigger on a flag T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: | Flags : magic, noremove, V3 | T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: I mean to test the flags, like in assembly when you test bits with BRCLR to know if they're set or clear T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD doesn't test the flags, whatever you're writing in your client does T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client has no access path to anything which you (or another player) didn't write T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinamura Tech: Ok T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerik Tech: Can I set my Aardwolf-MUSHclient to highlight a certain phrase for me everytime it appears in output? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Definitely Defines Tech: yes using a trigger T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: select the word/phrase, go to the menu and select highlight T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the display menu has it T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerik Tech: Yes indeed. Thanks, that was easy. Cheers! T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can even just right-click it, highlight is in the contextual menu as well T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Devil Remps Tech: so select it with your mouse and then right click + highlight word T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerik Tech: Yup. Already got it. Thank you! T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can then go to the trigger list and see what that created T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which would let you quickly make a bunch of those if you know the words you care about but won't specifically see them in the game right now T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: why has everything have to be worthwile? just spread the bubblying joy! T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: mis T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalfir Tech: Anyone use ProxyMUD and could help with the mob db? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I could help with general proxymud stuff, but I have no interest in helping people with mob dbs :P T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallaven Tech: - T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalfir Tech: Yeah... I can understand that. This is a pain... T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhalfir Tech: It was giving me some strange error. Think I got it now though... T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: computer programming is addictive. damn you, computer programming! T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you tried out any of the newer FORTRAN "replacements"? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: where is the "drunk" flag that was asked on imm? it has been over 2 hours since requested T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: they still use fortran? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and in 20 years, all that work is (pffffft) obsoleted dead and replaced T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza shrugs in response to Zade's question. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: perhaps T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: doesn't mean its not worth doing though T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: since it will be used until it is replaced T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: nothing lasts forever T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: FORTRAN has been (itself) upgraded plenty of times to keep up with technology. The FORTRAN of today is definitely not the FORTRAN of the punchcard era. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i only saw "fortran" example on a computer book. 20 years ago. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: fortran is still highly used in mathematics and science T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it is increadibly good at doing those things T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: apparently it's to sci-math programming what (we think) Aard is to every other mud. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallaven Tech: that's just because academia takes forever to catch up to what's happening in the real world :) T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza peers intently at Tallaven. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: or it could be that the language excels at what it was designed to do :P T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fortran was taught in academia more to teach habits and thinking skills than for its use in end-products T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i code in plenty of modern languages, but most still can't hold a candle to C in terms of raw performance. THe difference is, for most applications, it doesn't matter if it is 10% slower than C. on the other hand, when you are doing billions of calculations on a super computer and you are paying for time on the computer, every % is tons of cash. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: That's why most languages are taught in academia. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I don't think my instructors expected most of their students to be programming in standard ML, or prolog, or lamda calculus much. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: even if they all (or most) see significant uses in certain areas T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, we can't all be astrophysicists... T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much of academia doesn't bother teaching those in a standard comp sci path anymore T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallaven Tech: haha i was just trolling :) Obviously all languages have their pros and cons T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i made a prime number calculator in c and since then "c# is a dirty letter for me. many curse words were uttered.. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I learned most of those in a class titled "programming languages" T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I think the only other language I ever used outside of that class was Java during the first year, and C++ every year after that T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd prolly debate the definition of "learned them", if all three were in a single course of that title :P T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ebonics? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably left out an "of" in there. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you had an introduction to them, in a course whose purpose was to introduce you to various languages T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but that was your point, wasn't it? They're taught to introduce different concepts and thinking skills T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Don't really need anything more than an intro to do that T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true at all T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my comment wasn't to "introduce different concepts", but learning to program in a structured environment T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and developing the habits required for that T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: structured languages are good for grounding you before going all willy-nilly in today's languages ;-) T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: I learned to program in an unstructured environment. QA team's puking in the corner. Boss hasn't been seen in a week, half the devs are wasted, deadline in 6 hours... T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but an intro to the language wouldn't give you the mindset T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: looking at the different ways you can program the factorial function is enough IMO to highlight the main differences between an OO language like C++ vs. a functional or recursive one T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: don't really need something hugely complex to do that T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallaven Tech: hmm T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: maybe not quite that basic of a task, but not much more T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, I'm not talking about highlighting the differences...that was the point of your course, that's not the point that many degree programs used to have T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing even remotely close between what you're talking about and what I'm talking about T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: In that case, I wasn't taught any programming habits in any languages except C++ and Java during my 4 years. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Not sure what habits couldn't be taught with those languages T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many programs have abandoned trying to create clean programmers, though, resulting in your beliefs :P T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: what beliefs? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: C was the most inhumane language that i've tried. iven plain assembler was better. but i don't know much about programming. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the belief that a 2-week intro to a structured language would give you the habits associated with that language :P T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I'd argue that programming habits are more separated from programming languages than you're making them out to be. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: other than what you can get in that 2-week intro T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallaven Tech: I kind of agree with that, but I think you guys are using different definitions of "habits" T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: they're the thing dev nuns wear. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askimm Tech: ^What Leonassan says :) T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Most of that Programming Languages class wasn't even using real code, just pseudocode T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallaven Tech: it doesn't matter what language you learn good testing practices for example T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: back in the day, even after 'the world was c/c++', many programs wouldn't start you learning them until you'd had a good grounding in the 'dead' languages... T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: (or maybe I'm thinking of a difference class now, been a while) T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nowadays, they'll give you things like that class and then throw you into the c++/#/java and send you out as a web dev T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but I definitely took a class on how to be a better programmer that didn't focus on any particular language T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: don't remember if it was the same one as that other one or not T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the bulk of it can be self-taught. There are books on pretty much every aspect. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely, unless it was titled badly..."programming languages" is pretty clear that it's just giving you a taste of the languages available, rather than training in a mindset T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I have my transcript on hand, lemme check T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Foundations of programming, maybe T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tallaven nods at Hanslanda. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that sounds more like it :-) T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: but many(i mean zillions) nice apps has been done thanks to the possibility of being completely ignorant about how computers ACTUALLY work. meaning you only have to know 1 comfy language to make a living.. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Programming Languages Concepts was the other one T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: that I "learned" Prolog, and ML, and Perl T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: also "MODELS: LANGS/COMPN", whatever that was T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: no clue what that one was about T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably the biggest reason why computers are getting so bloated nowadays. Don't actually have to worry about how much whatever your app requires. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I don't remember half of these classes, actually T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Models sounds like more of a planning class. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: "models of language and computation", evidentlt T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the old days you didn't learn to code in a school. you learned the russian language with a dictionary for being able to read a good book about assembler:p T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: oh, state machines, and deterministic finite automata, stuff like that T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: solvable vs. unsolvable problems, etc T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: And after all that, I bought a PSU tester last week and fried it within 5 minutes T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: did you send the cheap shit back to china? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you skipped the "hardware vs software" course? }:> T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I had almost no hardware courses :P T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i was thinking about a good racist joke but Dustpuppy ruined it:( T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dustpuppy Tech: Madcatz's tech experience consists of plug and pray. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wait, you fried the PSU, or the tester? T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: the tester T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Testing the leads going into my GPU. GPU has a 6-prong slot and an 8-prong slot. the 8-prong slot takes a 6-prong lead + a 2-prong one T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: the tester also has this 6-prong slot and an 8-prong slot T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: evidently, the 8-prong slot isn't for the 6+2-prong leads T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: didn't notice the 2-prong lead wasn't going to fit T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: and when I plugged the 6-prong lead into the 8-prong slot, heard a spark and now the display is messed up T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yikes T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, at least now you'll be more careful. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: caused the psu to shut down, too (probably a good thing), but came back on ok T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: still not sure if it's working 100% OK, though T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: still get random shutdowns every now and then T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: not from the testing, but was why I was testing it in the first place T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you check temp and airflow? Computers are built with "sell-by date" concepts in mind, so when stuff like random shutdowns occur it's usually a preemptive move to avoid real damage. T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: assuming my temp sensors work, temp isn't a problem T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: well, actually, I haven't checked those recently T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but did when my GPU was failing T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: although that was probably before these shutdowns, so probably wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on them some more T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: usually happens within a minute or two of powering on, though T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: which would seem to me it's more like insufficient power than high temps T3/r7/2014-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I think/type out loud too often, btw :P