T3/r7/2014-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'An English blogger writing for the Nomen Global Language Center in Utah was fired for posting about 'homophones' last week after his employer said the word was too close to 'homosexual' and 'homophobe.''
T3/r7/2014-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i think your country needs to commit suicide out of shame'
T3/r7/2014-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'oh, and another tax-payer funded lawsuit is on it's way, enjoy :-)'
T3/r7/2014-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'i heard ebola is a CIA's evidence'
T3/r7/2014-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'i dont remember if i heard it or just made it up'
T3/r7/2014-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'oops. experiment. not evidence'
T3/r7/2014-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you made it up :-)'
T3/r7/2014-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Russia looks set to make it's second foray into the sanctions market with a ban on foreign airlines overflying it's airspace'
T3/r7/2014-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's first was a ban on certain imported Polish fresh foods, a move that will cost Poland as much as 0.3% of their GDP'
T3/r7/2014-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'So either there's a whole bunch of nerds/geeks buying it, or you're wrong'
T3/r7/2014-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'mis'
T3/r7/2014-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, US, UK, and EU politicians are crying blue murder at the announcement from Russia of bans on food imports from them. They decry the sanctions as 'politically motivated'....... And the sanctions on Russia weren't?'
T3/r7/2014-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kreuzen: 'are ninja pibow cases good?'
T3/r7/2014-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'if your company is other 15 year old boys, sure!'
T3/r7/2014-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kreuzen: 'indy, picturing me as a 15 year old boy again eh'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yay, USA now arming BOTH sides in the Iraq conflict!'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'heh. what could possibly go wrong'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'U-S-A! U-S-A!'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Amurrica! (Fuck yeah!) Coming along to save the mutherfuckin' day, yeah, Amurrica!'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'we're just trying to save everyone's day equally  :x'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdJRDpLHbw'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sounds like it was written for the purpose'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'haha'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you need any support, call on us Brits, we know all about creating and giving up empires'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'ha'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the synopsis of that is it's far less hassle and considerably cheaper to let countries do their own thing, and just trade with them/buy them up'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'come bonk the winner over the head after, lol'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no bonking'
T3/r7/2014-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'booo'
T3/r7/2014-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'm8  :P'
T3/r7/2014-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no, not really'
T3/r7/2014-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so Robin Williams becomes the latest victim of SSRi's'
T3/r7/2014-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how screwed up is it that my bank are offering me (unasked) an unsecured load for $25k at 4.9%, yet won't offer me a secured 80% LTV mortage at 5.2%?'
T3/r7/2014-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Daikojun: 'sadly, different departments.  I've been in that situation before.  No problem refinancing my home for money but I can forget the $10k loan request I made.'
T3/r7/2014-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well such is the way here, nobody can afford anywhere to live, but they'll happily give out unsecured loans like candy'
T3/r7/2014-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so are USA taking action against ISIS now that their pet terrorists are getting into places they weren't supposed to go?'
T3/r7/2014-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i hear Ferguson, Missouri is nice at this time of year'
T3/r7/2014-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why are democratic reps and governors calling for martial law to take down the uppity niggers in Missouri while republican senators are calling for calm and the demilitariazation of the police? Isn't that backwards?'
T3/r7/2014-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'Moving to debate from music as this is unpleasantly realistic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktQ6EkeJ2sE'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's who the west are supporting in Ukraine, isn't it?'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the west has yet to get it's hands dirty there .. '
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not so'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'funding a coupe and putting neo-nazi's in charge doesn't constitute getting it's hands dirty?'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I call that smudged '
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i see'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and their hands are pretty much covered in shit over ISIS'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'can't we just load up all the people in charge on a rocket and fire them at the sun?'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: '.. boots on the ground .. that dirty hands'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'still think the best thing to do i th emiddle east is up sticks and leve them to it, withdraw all support from saudi arabia, turkey, israel, remove all the sanctions to'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'double .. shush'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'eh?'
T3/r7/2014-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'might as well just start with the nukes since nobody is interested in peace'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) THE T12 VintEdge: 'halo'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'an angel?'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so why is it ok for Democrat goons to attempt an ill-judged indictment against Republican governor Rick Perry (who on the charges has done nothing wrong), yet it's the world falling down around our ears if republicans consider impeaching devil-chimpanzee incarnate Obama?'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'perhaps both should happen, except obama wouldn't get a fair trial because impeachment is not decided by a jury of the public'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'devil-chimpanzee?'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'obviously you are either immensely rich or you pay no taxes. An impeachment procedure would just waste the taxpayers' hard earned money.'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're right, i pay no tax in the USA :-)'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and you're right, an impeachment would be a waste of money because it wouldn't actually work, or achieve anything other than highlight the nature of power creep and wrongdoing by the office of the president'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but then, you would also have to agree that indicting Rick Perry is likewise a waste of taxpayers money, as is every time that a policeman beats up a citizen, prevents them from filming/taking pictures, or otherwise behaving in a thuggish manner that ends up in a lawsuit'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sure it would be a waste of money.'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'but a point about the creeping of the power of the president. Why attack it now? Obama didn't invented and he is certainly not the prime example of presidential abuse of power. So there must be another reason for the impeachment. Like, make him look suspect in time for the next elections?'
T3/r7/2014-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nah, he is the prime example'
T3/r7/2014-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bet that cop is impressed by the fact that CNN put his address and a map to him on tv'
T3/r7/2014-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'they did it "without malice" :)'
T3/r7/2014-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'send CNN the bill'
T3/r7/2014-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '-g 4'
T3/r7/2014-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'another ukrainian fighter jet got shot down over eastern ukraine. I guess the rebels must be winning on $$ damage so far'
T3/r7/2014-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'this is fun, too: '
T3/r7/2014-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfnuug5CA8k&list=UUzUV5283-l5c0oKRtyenj6Q'
T3/r7/2014-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'national guard called out to Ferguson, Missouri, outsiders including the Fed-run New Black Panther Party have come in and are stirring up violence - i'm sure it'll all end well'
T3/r7/2014-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'mm, Army preparing to use lethal force against unarmed civilians during riots. Nice'
T3/r7/2014-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'hmm, the KKK is out patrolling the Ferguson area to help keep it safe for residents...'
T3/r7/2014-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'they are known for their community involvement :>'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why would the KKK be patrolling in a black area? The Fed-run New Black Panthers have been out there causing trouble and inciting violence'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'because they're shit disturbers  :x'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, i haaven't seen any footage of that'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how's the source?'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'logical'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so no source just something you made up? :-)'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'got a better idea? :P'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, 101yr old new jersey man celebrated his birthday with his work colleagues - the guy still works'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140816/02260728229/how-various-law-enforcement-agencies-could-hack-your-computer-via-youtube-videos.shtml'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'heh'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'here they're looking for someone to prosecute for the 'purge scare''
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you didn't need to make shit up, the Outcasts have turned up, which is probably a more credible scare thing'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and apparently police gunned down a nutjob wielding a knife, too'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'way to go de-escalating, police'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'and another nut job with a gun. day or 2 after'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'they claim it's unrelated, heh'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well you've got the feds busing in race baiters from chicago, so what do you expect?'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i predict it'll be the NBP that cause the violence, they've already been caught on tape pushing/shoving journalists and threatening them with violence if they record them (probably a response to the fact that a NBP chant calling for the death of the police officer got caught on video)'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'STL cops shot a shoplifter who thought it prudent to go back for seconds, there's gonna be another riot.'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'so much violence'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'it's like we're jealous of LA or something.'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) <pretitle> Scars: 'shoplifter -> looter? or actual regular shoplifter?'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'wouldn't a looter wait until nobody's there?  This guy went in during normal business hours and discreetly filled up all his pockets, then ran out the door.'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'he would've gotten away cleanly, without the cops ever being called, if he hadn't gotten greedy.'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) <pretitle> Scars: 'so the police shot and killed a small-time thief?'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) <pretitle> Scars: 'let me guess, and i'm just gonna go out on a limb here... unarmed black guy?'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'no, not unarmed.  He was brandishing a knife, almost begging (daring?) the cops to shoot him.'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) <pretitle> Scars: 'do they not issue non-lethal weapons to the STL area police officers?'
T3/r7/2014-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they're only supposed to use those on schoolkids.'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, so there are now the startings of university censoring what their students look at on dorm wifi'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'of course the simplest solution is for those kids to get their own internet access, problem solved, but not a great precedent'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Lord Rovin: 'Is that even allowed by law?'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'of course it is, it's a service you're agreeing to'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's fucked up, but it's legal'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'now, if an isp retroactively applies it.....'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Lord Rovin: 'Yes but what if they accedentally stumbled upon porn?'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they can't, it's blocked'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'porn, social media, political content all blocked'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Lord Rovin: 'Good thing. Think of the poor little innocent souls'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'innocent? most kids in the Uk would have been sexually active for 6 years and have a pumped out a couple of kids by that point'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Lord Rovin: 'Yes, I was being sarcastic'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Lord Rovin: 'I could only think of a valid reason to block massive down/upload networks'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, it's the sort of blocking that's about 15 years too late'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'simplest just not to use it, in fact if i were the students i'd demand they remove the wifi routers'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the UK government tried to pull shit like this on the entire country via the ISP's'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dark Lord Rovin: 'In our country that's forbidden now'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'when they realised they couldn't legally make a porn/content filter compulsory they made it an opt-in at signup default opted in. The take up rate ranged from 3-9%'
T3/r7/2014-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'how many people you can manage with one kalashnikov? im sure there is a formula somewhere. cant find the answer in the users manual.'
T3/r7/2014-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's a news headline here "IQ Scores descreasing" that is clearly bollocks'
T3/r7/2014-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'people are definitely getting more stupid, but IQ's are not going down'
T3/r7/2014-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'when the allowed radiation level was too low after tzshernob7l, they rised it. '
T3/r7/2014-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Peer: 'besides all the rubbish about chernobyl and pripyat being haunted, anyone know of a haunted spot in ukraine?'
T3/r7/2014-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the bodega down the street.'
T3/r7/2014-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Chernobyl is in Belarus, not Ukraine, no?'
T3/r7/2014-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'anyway, news is Ukrainian belligerence is being called - Russia sent the aid convoy in after a week of Ukrainian procrastination. Ukraine are calling it an invasion, the media are, like me, amused by their response'
T3/r7/2014-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'If Ukraine will attack the convoy and Russia will kick the shit out of them in response, Unfortunately that's wishful thinking'
T3/r7/2014-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in consumer news, Shoppers in Europe have only 9 days left to buy a decent vacuum cleaner before their sale/import is made illegal'
T3/r7/2014-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'women. our 1st lady kissed with a French dude and fled the country. oh no!'
T3/r7/2014-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'these news cover up all the Ukraininan ones. that's so sad'
T3/r7/2014-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'need to get some o' dat slick willy spine in 'er'
T3/r7/2014-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'our president is a guy who has a nice apartment. not much more than that. the 10xaverage salary too. but not much else'
T3/r7/2014-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'no real function'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'fuckwit democrate Mike Honda from fuckwit state California is trying to bad the sale and possession of body armor'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'come on, body armor is legal even in the UK, where you can't carry a spoon in public without being arrested for carrying a weapon'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'so what's the argument against body armor?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'hey, lots of people are killed by body armor every year...think of the children!'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the argument is likely that drug lords are using it to mow down policy with impugnity'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'police*'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Mike Honda the fuckwit argued that it threatens a 'legitimate' premacy of force by the police'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'they're only rewriting the 1st amendment randomly. what's the big deal'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'body armor?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'body armor isn't at all related to freedom of speech, press, and the right to gather peacefully.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'so even if police aren't the only ones carrying, body armor undermines the carrying of weapons by the pols?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's his argument, yes'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'you know if government opposition just went around with body armor that's kinda ok to me'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'his argument is flawed at the base level'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'obviously.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you need to be a bit worried when any politico tries to use the old "legitimate monopoly on force" argument, it's a soundbite that has been deliberately and carefully applied since the early 90s'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'does he have supporters?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'body armor's meant to withstand certain calibers, so BANG! BANG! you're not dead!'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'if i was the police i'd be happy that i didn't kill someone'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Indignation: 'like the sith requesting emergency powers'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Redryn: 'it still hurts like hell i think'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yes, he has supporters, he's a democrat from the same fuckwit state as that witch, whatever her name is'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the one obsessed with getting all guns banned'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the one who mysteriously made $100m since becoming a member of congress'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'now it starts to make sense, after she bans civilian weapons, his argument for body armor starts to become valid. Of course that's if it happens at all.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'tiger: what's the story with the vaccuum cleaners?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well it's unlikely to pass because there are still areas of the US who've elected members who aren't fuckwits'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'oh, EU is banning sale of vacuum cleaners above 1600W from Sep 1st, effectively outlawing 5 of the top 7 cleaners on the market'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'typical EU meddling in stuff it has no business doing'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it'll never pass federally, but they could do it in CA senate/house'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'ahh, global warming/save the world?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gerugon: 'yeah meddling with stuff that makes the world a better place, how dare them'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'is that because of the high rate of penis injuries to the EU concillors?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'how does making everyone buy shitty vacuums help make the world a better place?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gerugon: '... you made my point'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'instead of using a 1600W cleaner for 1 hour, we'll use a 1000W one for 3 hours'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hanslanda sings "He's in love with a Hoover"
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gerugon: 'no they wont, they still only clean for 1 hour'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'nah.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gerugon: 'they ensure that dumb people act properly'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if they'd mandated that vacuum cleaners carry a efficiency rating, much like they do here for fridges/freezers, then fine'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'only took 3 versions, so I have to agree.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'oops, mis'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'one thing that I always got a kick out of was the noise of vaccuum cleaners...it's mostly artificial...they can make super-strong vaccuum cleaners really quiet, but people don't buy them because they don't sound powerful enough'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the EU is having to shell out $130m on damages to farmers this year as a result of sanctions on Russia, so great, the tax payers has to pay for their ignorant and short sighted foreign policy'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'probably the same sort of issue that have electric vehicles add to noise pollution'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'electric vehicles add to pollution period'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nod, people are getting used to EVs being noiseless now though'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so they now add "engine noise" as a known-fake-but-cool feature'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for vaccuum cleaners, they haven't "come clean" about it yet'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You are cheered on by Tigernuts... you feel so loved! 
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'as far as regulations go, it sucks'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'the USE of them doesn't add to pollution, it's just that they draw on a source of power based mostly on fossil fuels.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not only that, their manufacture is more polluting'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jymes: 'I agree with your point but it is still better than straight fossil fuels? At least some electric comes from better sources than fossil fuels'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jymes: 'So you'd rather just straight gas then?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'studies show that even in a country with a vastly renewable energy mix (Norway), an electric car will barely break even against a decent modern diesel over the car's lifetime'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in UK or USA it's a nobrainer, and that's without considering the problems from pollution from the electric car's bateries'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not to mention they're impossible to self-maintain'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'or that they will degrade quicker'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and that manufacturers are deliberately building in obselecense, and bringing in enforced rental schemes'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jymes: 'so the solution is to bag them? or work on solving those short comings?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'Cars were long ago going down that road anyways.  If we didn't have EV come along, our newest generations of gassers would be much the same.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they're a waste of time and money, they're a boondoggle for the rich and trendy'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'screw them, Jymes, if you want a non-fossil fuel alternative to diesel/petrol, go liquid hydrogen - the tech has been around decades, they use almost the same engines as regular cars, drive the same'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'unless a power source is formed that isn't polluting, yes Jymes.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'all the benefits of a regular car, none of the downsides of electric'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what you'll find is that various oil/electric companies have bought up the patents to hydrogen cars and have shelved them'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'not much pollution either, as water. It might aggravate the greenhouse effect though.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'and blow up much better, I bet.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not that I'd ever say no to someone giving me a tesla, but I don't foresee owning an EV in the next 10-20 years'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hydrogen cars are at no bigger risk than petrol or electric'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'depends on what risks we're discussing.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'overall risk of injury'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'explosion are unlikely, it's gonna be stored pure, so the purity will pretty much ensure it doesn't go up in a dust explosion.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'pressurised hydrogen tanks are absurdly strong for a reason'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'though deliberate sabotage will be spectacular.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and unlikely'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and not much different to sabotage on any other car'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'they probably still wouldn't stand up to excessive force in an accident.  Wouldn't that then result in the basic burning-water experiment?  One good spark in the midst of a sudden cloud of hydrogen...'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'dust explosions only occur at a certain purity.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'certain ratios actually.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'it would be rather unlikely. The pressure tanks themselves would be hard to damage as well, leading to quite a crash being needed.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'I think maybe one thing to be considered is output though.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'The greenhouse effect is also aggravated by water vapour.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what do you intend to do, turn off the sun?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'so I suppose if hydrogen cars produced water vapour rather than liquid water, revisions would need to be made.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'revisions in what?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hydrocarbon reactions product water'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'cooling the water vapour into a liquid.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'gas cars emit water vapor...'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so does evaporation and respiration'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'not at the same rate.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and water vapor being emitted just becomes clouds in the usual rain cycle'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'gas cars and petroleum don't burn pure hydrogen.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they don't need to'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'exactly.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'neither do fuel cell cars ;-)'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'water is still a byproduct'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'not at the same amount, reactants are not the same.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'given the options between the results of burning hydrogen or burning diesel/petrol it's a nobrainer - petrol/diesel produces pollutants, hydrogen does not'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'same amount of air, same amount of oxygen, reacting with separate things, producing separate end products, since water vapour traps more heat, the larger amount of water vapour may well exacerbate the greenhouse effect more profoundly.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in the meantime i'm perfectly happy with a diesel car, particulate filters are improving all the time'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'compared to the water moved through the atmosphere as a result of life, the car element is not significant'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'secondly, "so what"'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'elaborate please.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in a world where nobody can keep their pants on long enough to prevent the population continually rising, there are becoming water shortages everywhere, the more rain we have the better'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'it may not cause more rain. Other factors also come into play.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well that's a typically vague and pointless soundbite. Doing this may or may not cause something to happen, which will be bad because any beneficial effect may or may not happen because we don't want to obliterate our own agenda by pointing out the obvious flaws in it'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'particles needed for adhesion, ambient temperatures at the height where precipitation takes place, wind, etc.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'simply saying that the hydrogen car may require revisions IF it produces water vapour rather than liquid water.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'more rain isn't necessarily a good thing, too much in one area in too short a span leads to flooding, which can strip soils of their nutrients and ultimately just "pass through" on their way to the next part of the hydro cycle.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'The bottom line is this. If you buy an electronic car in the belief that you're helping the environment - you're not, you've been deluded. End of story'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'that's actually agreed on by myself.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the obvious post-fossil fuel alternative to petrol is hydrogen'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'why wouldn't thorium work?'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'thorium isn't combustible or liquid'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'doesn't work in an internal combustion engine'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'because putting that as a fuel source in a car is just asking for trouble.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'hydrogen is an obvious choice, but without proper planning, it could lead to the world getting worse. Like everything else.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'what planning does it need? it's a tried and tested technology. The fuel can be generated in bulk centrally, or in distributed micromanagement (even off grid)'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '(which is something else they don't like about it)'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'it works, yes. What I'm saying is that consideration may be required for end products for one, example as I stated above.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'they've been done, there were even roadgoing prototypes'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'That's kinda it. Norhing really out of the ordinary. Simply don't rush it.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there are thousands of hydrogen cars on the road today, btw'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jopari: 'As I said, it works, but was there any research onto the end product, or was it simply claimed that because it was water it was harmless.'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'the only downside was the lack of refueling infrastructure'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and yes, water was the only byproduct'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'conceivably you could get some other rare byproducts from solvents, lubricants and so on, but you'd get that in any system'
T3/r7/2014-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but i think the self-refueling was the thing that killed off hydrogen cars, once energy companies realised with hydrogens that people with a little land and $10k spare could buy their own fuel plant and never buy fuel from them again, they killed it'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, they've done a British version of Judge Judy with a posh homosexual judge called Judge Rinder. It couldn't be any more British and any more homosexual if they tried, but it's curiously amusing in a taking-the-piss-out-of-stupid-people way'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'burger king and tim hortons to merge, burger king to move tax base to Canada'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'just another example of how globalisation is a race to the bottom'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'why are mortgages so cheap in the USA? I don't get it, the central banking rate is the same'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'history of government involvement going at least back to FDR, hence the tradition of quite low long-term fixed rates'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'aren't they supposedly similar regulatory regimes now, though?'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'If the US had anything like a free market for mortgages, no sane (and few insane) banks would offer those rates :)'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well you would, just you'd require a higher LTV rate'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there was a ridiculous blog by an "expert" in the dreadfully leftist paper "The Guardian" in the UK where the writer slams a government minister for housing who was calling for a 30-year fixed rate mortgage. The writer claims the last time it was pushed people jumped in at 6.39% when the base rate was 5.5% and they got burnt. The writer doesn't seem to have noticed that the base rate this time around is 0.5% and can't go significantly lower'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'NIRP FTW'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'negative interest rates is basically the government trying to make saving money illegal'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'negative nominal rates is just like negative real rates after tax, except with nirp many ignorant/stupid people get it too :)'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'such things should be illegal for governments to do'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'imo, govt shouldn't be in the business of manipulating the quantity and price of money, but my preference is for a quite different system'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well my preference would be a return to the gold standard, but hey, that's just me'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SirCanada: 'while that is true, if the government isn't regulating it, someone else will be manipulating it'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'govt has way too much power as it is, so preferably something a gold standard, yes'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'gold standard and making it a legal requirement to balance the budget over a 5 year term'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm all for government regulating money, like.. 1 USD = 1/xth of an ounce of gold, purity y, and .. no fractional lending and so on :)'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SirCanada: 'fractional lending should be illegal'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that wouldn't work unless you b anned the trade in financial instruments'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm sure I can achieve most of the effect by regulating banking (think glass-steagall with some extra bits), you bank, you do nothing else.'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'also a tiny tax on financial transactions, like 0.01% :)'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that doesn't work'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'it does if I make it sufficiently annoying for most people to trade most instruments, and disallow financial intermediaries etc. from trading in non-public instruments'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'the main target would be the HFT gang, but you can have a small fee per quote instead'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'if you instigate any kind of transaction tax, all of your businesses that make money from large numbers of transactions will immediately up sticks and move to somewhere where there isn't a FTT'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'that is true'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'globalisation, again, biting you in the arse'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'none of those other things will happen before I conquer the world though, so that sort of evens out..'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SirCanada nods at Tinada and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well it's a shame, struggling to find a decent mortgage, 25yrs require 25% deposit and are few and far between (and at 5.79%)'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in better news, the entire French cabinet resigns'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'resigning is a bit better than being collaberators i guess'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '--h 4'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I agree!'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'bleh, wish they chattering liberati would shut up about bitcoin already'
T3/r7/2014-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so here's a question for you: What would necessitate an agreement between Ukraine, Belgium, Netherland and Australia to only release findings of the MH17 airliner over Ukraine if there was unanimous agreement between those parties to do so?'
T3/r7/2014-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'hmm, no riots yet for poor Dillon Taylor.'
T3/r7/2014-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hanslanda: 'arkansas democrat says voting for the other guy will cause you to get ebola'
T3/r7/2014-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'seems legit'
T3/r7/2014-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'at least its not ISIS coming through the mexcian boarder'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'ISIS -is- infiltrating through the Mexican border. Hezbollah and other groups have been talking to the Mexican cartels for some time'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'not in large numbers, clearly'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'meh'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that's the problem with an unsecured border - you don't get to choose who comes in'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'its not like we have anything to worry about'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and when you let huge numbers of foreign cultures come in, even legally, you get major issues such as ISIS, and the rape/sexual assault of 1400 girls under the age of 16 by Pakistani immigrants going unproesecuted'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'as the UK is finding'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'you mean when dirty brown people enter your country? LOL '
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'or is that not what you mean?'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'I wasn't going to put it like that, but it's a culture clash - it's what Enoch Powell warned about decades ago, but you're not allowed to take any notice of him, because it's racist'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'in fact, that was the official reason given for why 1400 rapes/sexual assaults went unpunished - the police and local government were too scared to do anything about it incase they were branded racist'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'as they say: you couldn't make it up'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'come on, if you're American, you know what a nasty affect a sudden explosion in the number of Mexicans in one area can make'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'thats a copout. they didnt do anything (if this did happen) is because it would require them to do their jobs '
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sounds like justification to get rid of them all'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'oh lawdy THEY TOOK OUR JERBS '
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well that's obvious'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'america has bigger problems than poor mexican immigrants right now'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'cant blame brown folks for all your problems '
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wilding: 'goodnight!'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well yes, your rogue government is an issue'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'immigration is damage done already to US and to the UK, still need to close the border, but it's a bit like locking the door after the horse has bolted'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'nine-year-old girl accidentaaly kills shooting instructor on firing range'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Loony Lachdanan: 'Thanks, Obama!'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kreuzen: 'should i stay up for one more quest, or go to sleep and wake up early to quest?'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SirCanada: 'never sleep and quest 24/7'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) SirCanada: 'until you get accused of being a bot'
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): SirCanada's eyes moisten as he thinks of the real world.
T3/r7/2014-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'that shooting instructor won't do anything quite so stupid again in the future'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bobolai: 'what does the term 'feminist' mean to you?'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I don't think it means one thing for me anymore'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bobolai: 'when you hear 'feminist', do you think of those reasonable people who fight for gender equality, or those crazy arseholes who believe men are total jerks and should be oppressed?'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) THE T12 VintEdge: 'those crazy arseholes'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jymes: 'both, since it can mean either. think of it as context'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bobolai: 'maybe the crazy ones should be called feminazis.'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'havent met nor seen/heard of a femenist that isn't also a feminazi, and isn't also a bit stupid'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I resent thut Tiggy :P'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you resemble that?'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'great to see you still about Tiggy ! keep up the great work !'
T3/r7/2014-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you're not a feminist'
T3/r7/2014-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Ukraine requests path to NATO membership. because clearly that (being in breach of agreements signed post Warsaw pact) will de-escalate tensions'
T3/r7/2014-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'they found out how the rocks move in Death Valley. each such success makes our world a bit more boring.'
T3/r7/2014-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the more we know .. the more we know we don't .. ? '
T3/r7/2014-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'I thought they figured it out like 2 years ago'
T3/r7/2014-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'Something about melting ice or something?'
T3/r7/2014-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'yep. but the've seen it now'
T3/r7/2014-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) .... Hwuaijijal: 'last december'
T3/r7/2014-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'rocks sail in death valley due to global warming caused by people living in oversized houses, voting the wrong way, and not paying enough tax'