T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: say i'm using dam 3 (average damage) but i also want it to display total dmg (from dam 1) in mush, is there a good way to do this computation/replacement?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: basically output looks like this [3] Your mind force does UNBELIEVABLE things to Xyz! [2000] and  i want it to be like
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: this [3] Your mind force does UNBELIEVABLE things to Xyz! [2000] [6000]
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: afaik, i'd have to omit from output and set it up again as a note/colournote/ansinote... but that makes the preservation of colors pretty difficult... is there a better way?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I love R -- or arragh, as it is sometimes known
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok how is the best way to copy over my aard file to a flash drive.  Every time i do now it doesnt work,
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ...drag and drop?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: log off. copy the folder. paste it into flash
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: anyone know which gmcp data i need to look for to find tier info?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: help gcmp has a link to info on gmcp
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: char.base.tier
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysserid Tech: How do I activate the scrollbar on the primary window of the mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: scroll the right side of screen?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: it should be there already
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysserid Tech: You are absolutely correct *facepalm*
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it's just not beside the window
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: depending on your screensetup
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: yeah, it's "weird" but it's from time before the minimins
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysserid Tech: Thank you for the help.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Odorless Nuanse goes to Lysserid: "No Problem!"
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Main-output-layout#where-is-the-scroll-bar
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: technical jibber jabber. and all that was required is. this is how it works. tough luck :)
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysserid Tech: Thank you Fiendish!
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's also https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Is there any way I can find out which areas I have a start room set for in mapper?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that's a mapper extender thing (S&D) not a mapper thing
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or maybe even https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no such thing as an area start room
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at The Jerk Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: mapper extender stores a list of areas and assigned room id#s as the "go to" room for when you "xrt (area)"
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Ah, at the moment I xrt an area and it takes me to a random room in that area unless I 'xset mark' at the first room
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but the fastest way to get to an area will differ based on your tier, level, portals, manor exits, clan exits, etc.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you reload the plugin it might display some sort of help or instructions on running a list of room id#s, but I'm not sure how helpful it would be to fix your problem
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Died a few times when mapper ran me into an aggy room in Imperial Nation and Sanctity.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: level lock the room entrances?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: a fresh mapper requires some work. same thing with WW's extender plugin. some parts need to be explored the old fashioned way before you can tell your plugins what you'd like them to do for you.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: nod, thought that. I figured it was easier just to run to each area from recall and xset mark them all. Ive done quite a lot but dont know which ones.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ww's extender doesnt use anything that has not been used by mapper. so all they both require, is mapper 
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Nuanse - he's having trouble with the "starting room" portion though, which is mapper extender
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you mean, what is first roomnum in area?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: with WW's mapper extender plugin, you "xrt (area)" and it takes you to a previously specified room ID#. maybe it does use the lowest room numbey by default.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it was room with earliest date added
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably best to just fix it on a case by case basis. if you use xrt and it gets you killed, figure out why, and fix it with xset mark or a lockexit.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: what is lock exit? I haven't seen that command anywhere in it's file
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Garrot Tech: Nod, Ill do that when I get time. Just didnt know if there was a way to check the areas I had done it for already. Thanks for the help.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: right click the room in the mapper window
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: "mapper help exits" - a lockexit will prevent you from using a given exit in a given room until you reach the specified level
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if you get killed by a plugin. I think you got wrong plugin :)
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: omg I wish I knew about that
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: or you are using it wrong :p
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: so a level lock might be good to keep you from going to a bad place in say descent to hell
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: I have been finding and adding plugins recently, but they are very scattered around for finding them and mushclient forums aren't super active anymore. Any place to find current up to date ones? I know about bash/masaki/winklewinkle but anymore that are good to know about?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: until that r2 when that levellock doesnt anymore work
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Nokfah and Abelinc have a couple, but it's a pretty decentralized thing.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buffy Anne Tech: mapper levellock will still work
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: abeling
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't know what I did there.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you're just starting to find plugins now and you've gone to winklewinkle, then you'll want to finger nokfah instead
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ww to nokfah and then bast. those are good to start with 
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and BluMalice for the Masaki-branded goodies!
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: nah. dont ruin it
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded ruffles Odorless Nuanse's hair playfully.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: sorry, but ww's extender for area finding, and walking around should have been in mapper already. now it's gone through several players.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: bast.. well his database is something worth a million dollars in gold.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: I just discovered using variables last night + accelerator script function.. Part of playing this game is fun just messing around with all the technical stuff
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: just dont make us a bot! we hates it
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: "my precious bot
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost coaches Odorless Nuanse in the subtle art of *beep* legal scripts.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: vost, dont worry. I'm not against your ww's script on mobhunting that is automated. it's just a script
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: if anything, the mapper needs is: Runs you via mapper goto/walkto to the first room you discovered in that area . it's something that takes people into ww's scripts. it should already have been in mapper from the start. or in last few years.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ahahahahahahahaha no.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: ok quick question... inside or outside of mush is there a way to toggle ctrl being held down without holding it down? 
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: runto area..in mapper. 
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vyhn: toggle it being held down?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you want to toggle Ctrl as if it's caps-lock?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: Correct
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what for?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: because I have ctrl+arrows for movement as accelerator macros.. just a small thing for convenience
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/210785/how-do-you-make-the-shift-ctrl-and-alt-keys-toggle-like-caps-lock/?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: ignore ? in ned
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: end
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: ahh cool thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: anyone good with blowtorch triggers?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: anyone good with blowtorch triggers?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: anyone good with blowtorch triggers?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you checked the website? when I used it I had no problem understanding how to do them..
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: just need to know how to create a hunt trigger
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: have you seen how to do one with mush?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: aka do you have the required messages?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: you really need the knowledge of things you want it do, and from where. There is no middle. In anything
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: is it (.*) to capture the text u want?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: or &1
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: check regexp
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semator Tech: How come Quaffer wastes potions? I'll be at full health but very low mana and it will do Mana Pot, Health pot over and over
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which quaffer are you using?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: your script is broke?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semator Tech: Author = Abelinc/Luanewb
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: Bot is bad! abelinc is bad! change bot!
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: abelinc is lunk?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no, Abe is bot! bot is bad. Abe is bad!
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semator Tech: Okay...then which do you suggest?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: does it do it all the time, or only when you are lagged?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semator Tech: Constantly
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I helped lunk figure out how to grab the gmcp data and access variables, but the plugin itself is lunk's
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my guess would be that he didn't put in a timer to stop it from spamming
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: then the script is stupid. it doesnt know when to stop
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: which is weird if it's abes. because he wouldnt do such thing
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not abe's (I'm abe)
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's lunk's
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: you are lunk?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: that explains. because you wouldnt do such a thing
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semator Tech: Well, it will stop when BOTH hp/mn are back up. But if one is full it keeps drinking both
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: or theoracle?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You slap Barbafappa Pleiades.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: no, he is bikerade!
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: where's your latest video?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades looks at you and pants lustily... 
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: for as far as I know. the script doesnt have check for "still running" which every script from abe  to ww has had for several years. Lunk just got lunked and even thought as abe
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, actually it looks like lunk started with my autoquaffer (so the attribution was more than just me helping him with questions), but the change that he made was to expand it to do mana...mine was strictly an HP quaffer, so there's probably an "if" somewhere that doesn't get reset
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semator Tech: I switched to Bast, better?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or you could.. you know.. quaff potions yourself?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's is a potion tracker and lets you quaff, it doesn't autoquaff iirc
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I like BluMalice's potion tracker combined with potion quaffing aliases and macros
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Strazor is agreeing with that Bishoujo Raded person again...
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: "hh" or / button on keypad gets a heal pot out of my bag and quaffs it, "mm" or * on the keypad gets a mana pot out of my bag and quaffs it. little window keeps track of what I've got left.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, despite the plugin I wrote (which I wrote for a friend, as I don't actually use MUSHclient), the closest to autoquaff that I have is a trigger on you are BLEEDING! that quaffs
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: I use it similar to Raded.  I use 'v' for my combat skill and 'vv' for getting a pot out my bag and quaffing it.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded fistbumps Strazor.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a potions tracker for tinyfugue that I wrote years ago that I still use, which puts the potion counts into the tinyfugue status bar, and gives me level-based auto-adjusting aliases for /heal, /mana, /getheal, /getmana, etc.
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I'm too dumb for the level dependent stuff, so the quaff alias is "get lotus bagID#;quaff lotus" but the buying mana potion alias requires me to put in the shop item number :(
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, not all that much too it.../def getheal = /if (effective_level>=20 & effective_level<30) /getheal20 %; /elseif (effective_level>=30 & effective_level<40) /getheal30 %; /elseif (effective_level>=40 & effective_level<60) /getheal40 %; /elseif (effective_level>=60) /getheal60 %; /endif
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: buy 20 1 instead of buy 20 pots
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to*
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: why dont you just pick the slotnumber of item? yes it might change but that is rare
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: like jade is always #4
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I use 60/100/150/201 lvl black lotus pots
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: where ever you buy them. they are always at same slot
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: right, but I'm not always buying the same mana potion
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I use 20, 30, 40, 60, 80, 100, 130, 150, 180, 201
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: how would you know what mana you would buy if you dont even know where to buy`?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for level 80, I have a variable for whether I do a just-mana potion or a combined mana/hp pot from diatz
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like the "cheap-heal" variable for a clan 60 vs goblin fortress 60
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I use the Seekers potion shop and use the highest level black lotus potions I can. it's just that for my "healpots" alias, I don't have to specify which potion I'm buying, because it will always be the same, so I would do "manapots 2" (to buy the lvl 150 Seekers lotus pots) or "manapots 16" (for lvl 100 Seekers lotus pots)
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so "manapots 16" = "buy 25 16;put all.lotus (bagID#)"
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: buy mana: if level is <= 59 mapper goto 52218288822;buy 5827 22232; else if level is 90 mapper goto 234234;buy 990 these pots.. etc etc
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have a table that defines what pots for what level.  'bh 10' will go buy me 10 of the appropriate heals for my level
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: end. now that would be too easy :)
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it is sooo easy :P
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I never said my way was the best or most elegant way, but it is harder to mess up :p
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: almost like a bot
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: Abe's lbid mini-win says that the output will appear in it once you click a hyper link ... anyone know what hyperlink it means?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when there's market items that go up, the item will be hyperlinked
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: oh! only when they go up? Okies! thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: auction and rauction announcements are hyperlinked as well
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: nice! will it include the underline?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, don't remember...did it for the bee's sting?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: hmmm ... no link at all
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, it looks like it should actually add a line ac
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err should add a hyperlink for lbid info on xxx
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: eh what?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should put underlined on the screen "bid info on xxx", where if you hover on that, it should say "Click to capture bid info on xxx"...you just added it recently, right? (I added the market/rauc in 2014)
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: just added it less than 1/2 hour ago
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: doesn't have anything like that though
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: let me make sure it's enabled
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: .. vnm ...it should be, I mean - the window is up
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, try doing a list on market
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: listing the market didn't do anything eitehr
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: either*
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting, I'll have to play with it, not sure what would've changed (heh, the danger of not using any of the plugins myself)
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: let me know if you get it working - I'd love to use it
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, in my quick test, market list gives hyperlinked numbers, but I think there was a change with the comm log plugin preventing the "live" hyperlink
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Odorless Nuanse Tech: while you are at it, what happens if two different plugins use same hyperlinked numbers?
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: on the top of my laptop monitor is a row of symbols, like for browser, docs, mushclient, etc. when I have mushclient open I used to be able to clk on one of those symbols and it would then be on top so I could look at it, but no longer, now have to minimize mushclient to see any of the other things I have open like my browser or some doc, any ideas how to fix this? I was thinking musst be a "ALways keep mushclient on top" option somewhre but cant find one
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a fullscreen mode, but not a keep on top mode
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I lied
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: view menu
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: view menu? no menu option in view that i can see
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: View -> Always On Top
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: oh duh there was a view Always on top
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I swear I looked all thru those, and would be a liar I guess, thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: that was getting annoying having to minimize mush all the time
T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: fascinating tidbit - the infocom text games were an early version of virtual computing.
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: mudding on 2g pocket wifi, feel like im back at 90's speed
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carbon Based Tech: where do i download mush? is any place better than others?
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: note
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: mis :(
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carbon Based Tech: where do i download mush? is any place better than others?
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: aardwebsite
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: www.aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carbon Based Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carbon Based Tech: is there any site that have up to date plugins? for mush?
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carbon Based Tech: any mush/campaign pros here? willing to pay for tech help :)
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: how long does it take to get comfy with a console controller?
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: somewhere beween immediately and never
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 15 minutes if you play game like lego, never if you play quake
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: im trying to play skyrim and just get killed by wimps
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Mudding with a controller would probably take a while to master.
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: That's because everything scales to you so it doesn't matter if you're fighting an ant or a dragon.
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: the direction-sticks are just so dumb
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: cant beat mouse ever imo.
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Yeah there's just no comparison to KB/M.
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: You just have to decrease difficulty to compensate for the handicap.
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: heh:)
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: a long time ago people played with kb only. quake.  friend switched to mouse and was laughed at.. for 1 minute:)
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: fifa was completely fine with controller though
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: hmm I have tried for a bit to figure it out but how would it be possible to format the gold number with commas as thousand seperators in the mushclient stat window plugin
T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Does anyone here have a gitlab installation?
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: does aard-blowtorch got a mapper and stuff?
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: how do i get the group mini-window to show in mush ?
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: do you have group monitor plugin enabled and are you in a group?
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: looked and its enabled
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: are you in a group?
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: maybe the window moved behind another window
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: is one of your other windows covering it up?
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: i checked for that before i asked on tech
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: let me check the xml to see if there are any reset window commands
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: try defaulting to see if resets
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: i removed it somewhow about a year ago
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: yea reinstall the plugin might work
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: try typing groupon
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: resertaard will reset the windows, but it might mess with your other windows too
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: reinstalled plugin
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chotometnea Tech: ok was wondering if there was a way to retoggle it without resetting other windows thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: eh. firefox now has web audio api working without those 2 issues that made it impossible to produce a working "sellable" app in chrome. and it has been 3 years for google to fix those.. nothing. that just proves google is a bunch of rich amateurs who have no reason to do stuff properly. i hope they'll learn the hard way:(
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: considering plugin-container firefox feature I think firefox crew is way behind IE cre
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I need restart firefox several times a day just because Firefox is all black
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: might be.. google the other hand, it just spreads its half-working products like there's no tomorrow.
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: lately they torture youtubers with their increasing incompetence
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, that security features of recent firefox is annoying - I mean dropping support for unsecure ciphers - just because webpage should be upgraded to use safer ciphers
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I rarely use firefox these days
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is nice unless you have to https to old (or just not newest one) switch than won't be ever upgraded
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: unless there's a plugin like firebug or something similar
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: if you want speed without ram abuse... use Firefox
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I just dont care for the interface anymore
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: so I use either chrome or safari
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, use Firefox unless you open more than 30 cards, then it is not too good to use
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: definitely less of a memory hog than chrome
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: chrome made me reset my special app in every 30 minutes because it clogs up the cpu gradually. firefox doesn't do that.
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: luckily you can just kill plugin-container and then firefox starts workin (just with message bad news: your tab has crashed, which is actually good news)
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: I personally don't believe Safari is in any position to compete with Chrome or Firefox... I'd even rate Edge higher than Safari
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Firefox still lacks simple feature: stop processing non active cards unless directly said to
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Firefox is absolutely awful for finding runaway CPU hogging tabs. Only Chrome's separate tab processes gives you that.
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: firefox does however have a few extensions that will unload or disable inactive tabs
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: I've somehow turned off my aard mini map window and can't remember the command in Mushclient to get it back.  
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: try resertaard
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: thanks I will
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: alas, that did not work.  Still missing the old map miniwindow. 
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: is there a plugin associated with that miniwindow? 
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: aardwolf_ASCII_mapper i would think.  try reinstalling that one
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Herowyn Kerowyn Tech: woohoo that was it
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: how to figure out which trigger does that: [string "Trigger: "]:1: unexpected symbol near '='
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i would like to share with everyone the mouseover text from the latest xkcd:
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: I searched my .bash_history for the line with the highest ratio of special characters to regular alphanumeric characters, and the winner was: cat out.txt | grep -o "\\\[[(].*\\\[\])][^)\]]*$" ... I have no memory of this and no idea what I was trying to do, but I sure hope it worked.
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that is all.
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I will sleep better now
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amministra Amorat Tech: omg
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: is anyone fluent enough in both regex and futility to figure out what the author was trying to accomplish, vs. what he actually accomplished?
T3/r7/2016-02-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: he was tring to write the line with highest ratio of special characters to regular alphanumeric characters
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is there a plugin which shows exp/min over a time window?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: for mushclient
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Can anyone reccomend a terminal/ssh app for ipad to use with tintin++?  I've tried prompt but it can't keep up with the text scrolling very well.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: putty?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Have you tried it?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: oops
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: missed "ipad2
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: does mush client aard have any changes to mush client source code?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Milkshake I think aard mushclient is a set of plugins, built in, specifically for aard.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: I'm not aware of source code changes.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: might use a different lua library
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you should ask fiendish
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: having problems with the aliasses on mush
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buffy Anne Tech: Having problems with the vagueness of your problem
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: hold on
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: when i press one like the number not the owrd i have it set to backstab
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: however it does not listen to any other arguements like "one mob"
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: even if i put it in this sentence it will omit everything else
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buffy Anne Tech: make the alias backstab *
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: whats star, wildcard or something
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buffy Anne Tech: yea
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: %1
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: its an asterisk!
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Buffy Anne giggles at Vibrating Vinatia's actions.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: send box should be backstab %1
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: getting nothing
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: do you use backstab to initiate all your combat?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: have you tried restarting your computer?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: every day.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: yeah, always
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: alias 'k *' in the send box 'backstab %1' - I'm assuming this is mush
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: and i usually have like 2,3,4 as other combat actions
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: that's the ticket
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: yeah im getting nothing
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: please paste exactly what you have for alias box and send box
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: wait, does aard not allow combat actions to be aliased through mush
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for crying out loud man
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: cause i have a couple others that work no problem
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: please paste exactly what you have for alias box and send box
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: like you said "k *" then "backstab %"
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you got the exact answer from Strazor
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now since you cant follow that, paste what you do have
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: backstab %   - is not what anyone suggested
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: %1 was
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: [04 Feb 19:12:28] Strazor Tech: alias 'k *' in the send box 'backstab %1' - I'm assuming this is mush
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: my bad, its there i just didnt type i here
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: are you sure you are creating an alias?  is it Enabled?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: working on it
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: does anyone know what %b does in cmud?  does it represent a word boundary like \b in regexp?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, word boundary is %q
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm not seeing a %b in the documentation, but if it's a valid wildcard, you can use the pattern tab in the editor to see what it converts to in regex
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: it's not in the documentation iirc, but i've seen it around
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: binary number?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Er, no, %b IS boundary...
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i do not see %b in the wizard
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: %b is the equivalent to regex \b
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: ah, in does indeed translate to \b
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: %q does do that too though, i'm positive i wasn't imagining that :P
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: now that is useful
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I used it exclusively before.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: %<letter> usually translates to the \<letter> equivalent in regex.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: with windows 10 is there a way to control monitors separately? I mainly want each one to have its own taskbar that i can pin stuff to
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+10+multiple+taskbars =p 
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it seems like it might exist... don't have multiple monitors to test with
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i have googled once or twice, did not see anything that stuck
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i think the first result may be what you're looking for: http://www.howtogeek.com/111488/how-to-tweak-the-new-multi-monitor-taskbar-in-windows-8/
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: says windows 8 but should be the same for 10
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: well... may not be *different* task bars... i guess you'd have to try that and see what happens
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: that was not what i was looking for, i have the taskbar on both monitors, i wanted independent control for both (can have its own pinned items and stuff like that)
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: well, nuts. 
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i was thinking it would be something i set through my GPU but i did not see anything like that in NVIDIA's control panel
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: ok, i'm trying to fix my mom's computer and task manager is showing that the HDD is at 100% i/o.  anybody run into this before?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: abelinc might have run into your mom before
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Algaru goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: it's svchost doing it, apparently
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: i'd offer up a Mr. Garrison quote for that, but that isn't going to fix the problem here.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: haven't seen it perosnally but this seems like it would help you figure out what exactly is thrashing the disk: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: thank you, it's appreciated.  i've never seen a computer with its disk completely floored like this.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: if you reboot it, does it spike back up immediately?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: or does it slowly climb back up? or just jump after some amount of time?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: not that i can help TS beyond those answers =p but it might help determine if something funny is running at startup
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Citlalin, have you run any antivirus on it?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: it has NOD32 on it
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not what I asked, though.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Have YOU run the antivirus on it?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Boot it up into Safe Mode, then check msconfig for things that shouldn't start running.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i like hijackthis too... i tend to find that pretty helpful
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: that will be my next step, along with anti-malware and whatnot.  I honestly suspect noscript would prevent this, but she would absolutely hate it.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Java is no longer being supported by Oracle, heh.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Flash is no longer supported by a few browsers. Or they are, but you have to enable it.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: noscript will become obsolete in the near future.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I just updated Java today and it had oracle's logo on it, hmm.  When did that happen?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: forever ago
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: at least 6 months ago
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: 2010
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: sun microsystems was bought out by Oracle before that but the complete transition finally occured in 2010
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: im just waiting until microsoft takes minecraft off java, then i wont need it
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Araceli Citlalin goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I disabled Superfetch and windows search and it seems the disk i/o problem might have gone away
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Windows Search could have been indexing stuff, although IDK if it'd keep the disk pegged at 100%
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: But really, what was the original problem you were asked to resolve?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it's possible... how full is the disk? does it have errors?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the problem I was asked to resolve?  "computer is so slow and the timer circle just spins forever, can you fix it?"
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: that is the long and the short :p
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How much RAM has it got? Is it constantly paging?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: i'm terrible at diagnosing this stuff because I run noscript, ghostery, and adblock.  i don't get junk software on my pc because the thing is locked down so tight.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: 4gb, 30% used
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And you're running Windows what on it?
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: does your mom know not to click those things that say "your pc may be infected" etc? mine doesn't
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 4 GB is pretty much the bare minimum for anything after XP.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: windows 8.0.  Super-annoying, but yeah.  I don't know if she knows not to click that stuff or not, honestly.  The whole think stinks of malware, but nothing in taskmanager is jumping out at me.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the disk i/o problem seems to not be recurring though.  previously it would beg out on reboot and stay pegged out.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I hate to say 'computer illiterate' as that sounds like an insult and i don't want to do that, but we're in that territory for sure.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: maybe now i can get the gorram POS printer to work :D
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: really appreciate the links and advice and all, thank you
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: np... i think we've probably all been in the same situation, heh
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: a good Youtube video to watch when irritated by computer/similar issues  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2guzKTBFdg
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the video solves nothing but it sure is cathartic
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the printer works!  BAM!
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: i dont need to photonicinduction it after all :D
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: ugh, disk is floored again
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: stupid svchost
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: wait, no, it was just a transient
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I don't trust this pc at all
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: i.e. my mom's.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: wipe it. 
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: won't let me
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: D:
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: it was NOD32 doing something, I guess.  Still, it's bizarre to see it happen.
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: i don't even have antivirus on my own pc and i never have issues, probably noscript and general paranoia
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you got script issues man
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont noscript and my machine runs raw too
T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: anybody know how to defeat Forbe's anti-adblocker? :P
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahvin Tech: How do i turn off f1 trying to bring up help? on mush
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahvin Tech: had to reset some stuff. i turned it off years ago and forgot
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go to File -> Global Preferences and tick the box for F1,F6 are macros
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahvin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's under General tab, if you can't find it.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rahvin Tech: I did. Thank you
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: getting ready to push another update and then another apology note for the update process not yet being bulletproof. I do wonder if this is all very silly of me and if I should just be making an actual NSIS installer instead of trying to do it from inside MUSHclient
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I guess I've learned a few new things in the process
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: hi fiendish - i had a problem a few weeks ago where i was running into a ulimit issue
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think I vaguely remember something about a ulimit problem
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't remembr what happened
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i found out that it was caused by opening an sql connection to Aardwolf.db from my scripts
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: repeatedly?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: if i copy Aardwolf.db to a new file (i used mapper.db) and changed all my scripts to use "mapper.db" instead of "Aardwolf.db" the issue disappears
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i have a little script which shows the resource leak, its actually in wineserver not MushClient.exe
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: im wondering what does your mapper do? does it keep an open connection to the database Aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I believe S&D does the same
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I assume this question means you keep opening and closing the connection?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: k, i noticed it uses close_vm but not close
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes, i do that for every db access
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that would make your db accesses take significantly longer doesn't it?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: s&d does the same but it also leaks resources
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its not noticeable to me
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: do you use s&d? if i show the script i think you might get the same leak
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't personally but I know a lot of people do
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: but even without s&d i can reproduce the problem by just opening a connection to Aardwolf.db and then immediately closing it
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: give me a test plugin that demonstrates it?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: but if i disable the gmcp_mapper_plugin, same code does not leak
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont have a plugin, i just have an alias
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: give me a test alias then
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: even better
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ill have to set one up
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: how do i get this info to you?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: email is fine
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: other than email?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can post me a note
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: k, bbl
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or you can use a file sending service
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: If I were to guess at what might be going on after looking at the luasqlite3 source code...
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (and keep in mind that I don't actually know if different environments actually share a lua runtime or not, but I suspect they might)
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but a plugin that calls open and never calls close maybe prevents the database from getting garbage collected
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you call open and then close_vm, probably overwriting the thing that maintains the reference every time you call open
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which lets the garbage collector run and close the db connection
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the old one, anyway
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what old thing are you referring to?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you say you're doing something like this...
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ive got the alias, it reproduces issue, will put bash script which shows resource leak + alias into note
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for i=1,10 do  local mydbvar = sqlite3.open("aardwolf.db");  mydbvar:close_vm()  end
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i call close() not close_vm()
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I thought you said you were calling close_vm
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i said i noticed s&d calls close_vm() but does not call close()
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, send me this test thing
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (though are you sure an email wouldn't be easier to send?)
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: note sent
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: on general board no less
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok reading
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: oh im hopeless with notes
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eh. it serves the purpose
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its reproducible on your system?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShadowDragon Tech: can someone get my corpse please
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Zetkax: looks like this is not a problem with the plugin. Maybe a problem with db:nrows
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unloading the plugin and then running your test alias leaves the number stable
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then, doing \\\db = sqlite3.open("Aarwolf.db")
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: doing the test alias again leaves the number stable
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but if you then do \\\for a in db:nrows('select * from rooms') do print(a) end
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then using the test alias starts to elevate the count
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: try adding close_vm() before the close()
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no effect
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: something inside the db:nrows function of luasqlite3 is doing this
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: k, i do use db:nrows in my scripts and i have not noticed any resource leaks
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i cant explain why your test is leaking
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: possibly because you call close all the time
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes i do
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you ctrl+s it calls close on my plugin too, you'll see the number then resets
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: something in luasqlite3 nrows is holding the door open. I'm going to look further
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetkax )
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, I was wrong. 
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe anything that actually accesses the db file will cause it
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so it's not nrows, but it is something much lower than my plugin
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: having trouble resetting my bouncerecall portal since joining clan.  I am trying to use one that is cast 'word of recall';s but it says must be recall or home command
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: first make the portal. then mark it with portalrecall. then set the index as bouncerecall
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (I forget why)
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: ah...thanks I forgot about that step
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it also appears to only affect windows. handle count never increases with this test alias in Win10
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry, only affect linux+wine
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which suggests a Wine bug
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I'm sick of Google.  Can anyone recommend a good alternative?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no alternative is good
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lmgtfy.com
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Don't talk to me again.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: But seriously, what do the rest of you use, if not Google?  It just isn't what it used to be.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: google is fine
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: bing
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Questioner Tech: askjeeves?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: archie
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know people who only use duckduckgo
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I find it kinda unusable
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: Is there a way to set path weights in the mapper? I keep going through a place that wants to kill me
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: set a level lock on the path
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: right click the mapper room to do it
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: or create a custom cexit around it
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: usually level lock on one side of the room is sufficient, but mapper will still be able to get to the room from the other side if needed
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: is there a way in lua, in mush, to code a function key. i know you can go into macros and set it that way but is there a way to do it with code?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: I think they are called accelerators, but to be honest never done it so not sure.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: like this http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=AcceleratorTo
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tainted Tallimos Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: ie:  AcceleratorTo ("Ctrl+K", "kill", sendto.world)
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: guys where can i set my mapper to open a door when there is door in the run path?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buffy Anne Tech: mappe cexit op direction semi colon semi colon move that direction
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By going to the door and setting a cexit...
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You have to create cexits for doors, otherwise the mapper doesn't know.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: 'mapper help exits' for the syntax
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: i get a custom exit failed
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: make sure you use double semicolons(;;) between commands
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: open east;;east, not open east;east
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: ok i got it thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: how can i set an alias to mapper cexit o n;n/
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: how can i set an alias to mapper cexit o n;;n
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just like that
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: thats how i'd do it lol
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Create an alias, put that in the send box, and that's it.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: when i do that the first command says sorry you can't do that
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: You would have to make it a client sied alias. And 'Send To' needs to be execute.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh yeah, forgot it doesn't default to Execute. Hmm.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thomas the Tank Tech: anyone know how to reset the zmud settings configuration window?  its un-docked and won't re-dock correctly
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: i hope you guys can help, i'm looking to create a script/alias/trigger where it hunts for the mob i type in untill the game sais i am unable to hunt that target and then crosses over to where is the mob target and then mapper area room name
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Winkle's S&D does that already.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Bast has already made such a script
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: anyone mind pointing me in the lin direction?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: link*
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Winklewinkle for his (and finger Nokfah for the fix you'll need) or finger Bast.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: how do i import the scripts or do i copy and paste and into what folder?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: put them in the plugins folder
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think they have readme files there too
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You save the .xml file to wherever you want (most people go for the plugin folder). Then you do Ctrl+Shift+P, "Add", and navigate to the file you just saved.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: how do i get past this Trigger function "invdetails_redirect" not found or had a previous error.?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: reload eqdb plugin I think
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: is there an updated mapper database?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: no, apparently you have to build your own.  feel free to release one to the public though.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buffy Anne Tech: yeah, please do
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: where is the database stored?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: \mushclient folder
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: in the root mushclient folder under whatever your session name is
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asedemus Tech: for example aardwolf.db?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: This "On the House" round features "Need for Speed: Most Wanted" for Origin. Whee! Love the free games.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: so i put the cp tracker into my mushclient.. got the xml file and the plugin part done... howdo i make it pop up now?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: which cp tracker?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: from gammon forums
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: did it say the plugin loaded?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: is it bast's plugin?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: this one
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8815
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did you cp check?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: ahhhh.. you have to spell it all the way out
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: i just type cp ch
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: thx
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: you mentioned another one, is it any better?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: probably, that one is 7 years old
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rizzi Tech: could you point me to the right direction
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: read the documentation he has a lot of plugins
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: how do I fix that?
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: oops
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: finger nokfah
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: check out his replacement mapper extender
T3/r7/2016-02-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: gives me an error message and takes me to the xml file
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is mapper text not available to trigger off of, or is there some trick?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone know of a good API to pull SEC EDGAR financial information?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i wonder how many on/off options are here total?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: could they fit all in 1 miniwin
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: 3pt font.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: maybe maxiwin
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: anyone have a good way to fix invmon reliably with out deleting the database?  reloading the plugins not working this time
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In order to fix it, we'd need to know what the problem is.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: i dont have the first error but now Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: the first error is the one you need
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: yea.  moving and buying in the same command will always cause it to error out i just cant remember the message
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: removing eqdb and readding it and invmon seemed to fix it for now.  what does that do differently than just reloading the plugins?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: if reloading the plugin didn't stop the 'previous error' message you didn't reload the right plugin
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: i used nick gammons plugin - 'plugins reload all' or 'plugins reload eqdb'
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: what's the benefit of updating aardmush version?  is there a concrete reason to do it?  something wrong with the version I have?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: check the patchnotes and see if it fixed something that might be helpful for you
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: if it's reloaded it can't have had a previous error afaik
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: hmm.  invmon gets remove from the plugins list if you reload eqdb and xml file has to be readded.  maybe ill trying plugins reload invmon next time first
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: Hey guys
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: hi Halth
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh HI
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: greetings
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: my S&d is broken - xrt firenation and it doesnt bring me to the place I would want.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: how do i reset the xrt firenation ?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: finger nokfah
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you try it?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it take you somewhere (the wrong place) or does it error and not take you anywhere?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: i have this problem, to wear soemthing and enter 
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: which exists for some other area too.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not in siren's oasis...it's a different area of its own
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: use xset mark in the first room in firenation
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: that will fix it
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: love seeing all these people finger nokfah
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset mark wouldn't fix it if the issue is that it's not taking him t othe area...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: it doesnt solve it
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: it brings me tothe same place, i need to reset the preset speedwalk - any idea?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: might be some rooms have moved / been removed?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, because the first room's mark isn't the issue
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: set first room of area
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no vinatia, that's not the problem
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your issue isn't with S&D, your issue is with an errant part of your mapper...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: nods, and im thinking howto remove that
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best way to see what the mapper thinks it should be doing would be to go to recall, and then type "mapper where 41879"
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: it only happens in my manor
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: wear 951568716;enter;run 4sen
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: Aylor recall is fine
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: you have a bad custom exit setup somewhere?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: how do i check cexits?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like you should run the command from your manor..
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: is your portal with that number in a bag?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click yuour manor room and look at the exits
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: try deleting the cexits from your manor
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: mapper cexits <here/area>
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: then recreate cexits from your manor
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: yes, there's a weird cexit of wearin something at manor - how do i reset that?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click your manor room...you can delete exits there
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: nod biker, delete old exit and remake it
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it sounds like it's one that shouldn't be remade
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: done :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: thanks. deleting that cexit solved alot of issues.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: YES!
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: NOW WE'RE COOKIN WITH TECH!
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: thanks guys/girls :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh sorry..
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: what's the command to reset your windows in mush ?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: format c:\ /u /q
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: resertaard
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: bash: format: command not found
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: i had a typo i believe resetaard also resets the windows
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: yes that worked
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: worked kind of funny, but worked
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: still don't see my communication log window though
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: anybody have any idea how to make that show ?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Reinstall the plugin? Shut down mushclient and restart?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ctrl-tab?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What have you actually tried?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: like, where all your tells and gtalk and ftlak and stuff go ?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type chats show
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: that doesn't work biker
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's hiding behind something else
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move whatever's above the main output, or right click that and select send to back
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysserid Tech: I'm seeing {chan ch=something} on Blowtorch client. I remember issuing a command to toggle it before, but can't remember it now.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: tags off?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or 'tags channels' to get rid of just those specific sets of tags
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysserid Tech: Boom. That worked. Thank you.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Marlen sighs.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: is it a plugin ?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is what a plugin?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: the communications channel
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything is a plugin...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: aardwolf_chat_capture_miniwindow
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: i see an aard_channels_fiendish.xml
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Type 'checkversion', just outta curiousity
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: r1802
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: r1797!!
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: is that an OK version ?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I dunno. You'd have to look at the change logs to see what's different between what you have and what is most recent
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's recent enough
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: also, aard_channels_fiendish.xml shows up in the plugin window (as in the plugin name) as what I said (aard chat capture miniwindow thingy)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So we're talking about the same plugin.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: yay :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: i knew between all you gurus you'd find it !
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: it even says communication log at the top
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: only now it has this really tiny font that's different than my main window font
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: right click and change font
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: sweet thanks Hann
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marlen Tech: and Metria
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helps you Level Tech: if i have my copy of mush on a thumbdrive will i have any issues with saving or settings ?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helps you Level Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Some people prefer it that way, in fact.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, though, you may want to definitively give your USB drive a drive letter.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: do mush updates ever bomb badly?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, Citlalin.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they could...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Gammon planning any new releases any time soon?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Fiendish is working hard to make sure no one has to go through the trouble of manually updating again.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you talking about just an update you perform yourself, or fiendish's new autoupdate? cuz that still has stuff to be worked out before it "won't go badly"
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It could, yes, especially with Fiendish working on new stuff. But it's rarely game-ending. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the beauty of it being a portable installation is that you can just copy your MUSHclient folder somewhere for a backup...and for manual updates, you just unzip to a whole new place, leaving the existing installation intact
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Do mush world files ever bomb or become corrupted and unfixable?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to do the "export to text and re-import" like zuggly stuff ;-)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Or, to put it another way, how can I protect myself against an irrecoverable crash or data error?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't I just finish explaining the beauty of a portable installation?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: for example, my dbvar info.  I can store it in the .mcl file as mushclient variables, but what if the file bombs or whatever?  That information can be time consuming to enter, so while storing it in the .mcl might work, if the .mcl bombs that's obviously going to be an irritant.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit MUSHclient...click MUSHclient folder, ctrl-c, ctrl-v...you're protected.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I'm just looking ahead so that I can make the best decisions when it really is time to push through the full conversion.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Citlalin, the answer to your question is the same for any other data you want to protect. Back it up.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Backups aren't an end-all though.  What if I back up a file that has corruption and I don't know that?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nothing you do will fully protect you, unfortunately, unless you make several backups daily.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while it's working, it's not corrupted...and "single backups" aren't an end-all
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again, it's a text file...open it up and take a look
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Should I lean heavily on the script file as the primary storage vehicle for my scripts/data?  Plain text, at any rate, is more resistant to corruption, or at least it's easier to spot it when it's there.  So should I lean on that as my main storage vehicle?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I urge you to open it up, really...it'll put you at ease to see what it looks like
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't really use the script file at all
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should make plugins
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: gagged abe btw, i'll ungag him if he's not going to be condescending but otherwise i can't and won't tolerate that.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, not to be rude, but that's kind of stupid to do.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's legitimately helping you, but you're ignoring what he's saying anyway.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't beg for condescention and you won't get any }:>
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dude, you could create a database and a table in 2 lines of code.  then its only 3-4 lines per transaction to access and query it.  it is so simple that you will wonder why you spent weeks insisting it was too complicated to comprehend
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: sqlite is indecipherable to me
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, but sqlite is "OFF THE TABLE!!!!!!!!!!!"
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: here we go again
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: stop reading teh goddam manual and look at some actual code
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: i *did*
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no you *didnt*
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: anyway that's not what i'm asking, i'm looking to avoid putting in a lot of work and having the client bomb on me.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: you can tell I don't trust change, and switching to mush is a major, major change.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I just want to be prepared.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Why are you switching to mush if you don't like change? cmud still works.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because MUSH is actively developed.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: CMUD isn't, for all its bugs and faults.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, but that would avoid CHANGE, wouldn't it?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Future proofing in case a new windows version fails to run cmud.  It could happen, probably will some day.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: he wants us to pull our hair (or feathers) out
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: abelinc is future proof
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client won't ever stop working, that's for sure :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: maybe I'll rename a workstation to abelinc
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Don't, Pleiades. It'll blow up with ego.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: siri should have been named Abelinc
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: cortana too
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: version control system - keep all your backups, and if you detect corruption, step backwards until you find a good one.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's too much like a database!
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I miss generation datasets, they were so much simpler :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: the problem with version control is that it is complicated enough to have bugs.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't think versioning Aardwolf.mcl is a complex enough task to shake out any lingering bugs in cvs/svn or git
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I'm not worried about databases in the long run, it's just something to overcome and I get that.  I'm not going to give up, but I want to do it right as best I can the first time, so to that end I shelved the project until I'm done levelling so I can properly focus without getting frustrated.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: it comes down to "Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance" and "plain for failure" and "it's better to have good preparation and not need it, than to need it and not have it."
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: So I'm asking these idiot questions now.  I hope that makes sense.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I appreciate every piece of information I get, it all goes into a text file that I can (and do) refer to.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: does the text file go in a database?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Maybe some day :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hann grins evilly.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: and if I prepare right, maybe I can help somebody else with the same issue or concern.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: what is the single biggest issue or problem, no matter how small, that you guys have had with mush?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That I have to run it on WINE when on Linux.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people asking stupid questions :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: runner in hper-v :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: And how easy it easy for ignorant people to use :P
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: ascii art appears that represents abelinc appears at random times
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: well, that's one I won't worry about ;)  Script issues / crashes?  Data corruption, messing up your computer?  Unintentionally starting WW3?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: }:-( More abelike :P
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Cuze he's grumpy and devil-like :P
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: fully portable via flash drive I assume?  god that will be excellent.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: or google drive even
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: chico, use hyper-v, install some windows in it and run mush native.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: As if I still use Mush anyways ;)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Immformed Anaristos goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but hyper-v is windows...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: cheez could probably write his own client
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I did
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That's what I'm using
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: what did you call it?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: NoMu
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: well, sure, but he gets to run his beloved osx also :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: pfffft
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: OSX can eat it
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he said linux...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: even worse :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: And also Unix/BSD - bastardization, not Linux :p
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: osx is unix-based just like linux, at a distance they all look alike to me :>
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: is C your scripting language?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: NodeJS/Scala
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: C isn't a scripting language...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: I wouldn't want C as a scripting langauge, too heavy. But C# might be nice.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: We don't need to nitpick the non-programmers, Biker :P
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I seem to recall you being more newbfriendly :P
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: Abe has never been friendly to newbies :>
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: accuracy isn't nipticking
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm always friendly to newbies, but I abhor disinformation
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: He was extremely helpful when i was a newbie :P And called me on my crap.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and will be quite tenacious with squashing it
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: the longer this channel exists, the more it becomes gossip... so take it there when not helping?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech is not specifically for helping
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: It's a discussion about programming vs scriptring language...it's tech-centric
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ok I have a question
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: 42
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: what external hdd should I get?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever's on sale...and get 3 of them :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you shouldnt - get a big thumb drive instead.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: well, .NET languages are technically script generators.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: 4tb for $160
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: thinking 2TBish
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I'd have bad luck with WD drives, but others swear by them. At this point it's easier to have Google Drive back it up. When i was in KC i got a TB for free for being a Fiber subscriber and they never bothered to remove it.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: ibm deathstar
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: eh, I feel like every brand I recognize has gotten better
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google fiber would be sweet
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I only had it for a few months before I moved to Denver
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: but it was pretty legit.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I use qwest, cheez
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: or centurylink as it is known now
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Comcast :(
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: They keep trying to hire me too, but I refuse to work for such a nasty, vile company.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: who Cheez, Comcast?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: they are AWFUL
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: 300 gig max per month ... started out as unlimited
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: monopolies ... are just plain wrong
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: i've stopped downloading as much, how much are the charges if you go over>
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: Haven't done it yet, so I'm not sure
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: so you find 300Gb/mo restrictive?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vibrating Vinatia Tech: cant go over with Comcast, it just slows down once you hit your max rate
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: there are 4 of us online, and one of us is really YOUTUBBY heavy
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: i used to go WELl over 300, Anar :P
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: yeah, and all that porn takes a lot of space.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: it's not hard to get to 300 gig ...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: I have a hard time spending 5 :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: well, dream on dear heart - but there are a lot more interesting things than smut
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: *cough*torrent*cough*
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: 5gb?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Porn. Porn. Porn.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: that too Cheez
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: MOAR PORN
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: I don't trust torrent, sorry.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Porn built the internet, pay our overlord their advertising dues!
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 5GB is fine for phones...but PCs online 24/7...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I got a plex server, and other things hosted... 5gb wouldn't last me 10 days.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: ... used heavily ... all of us are online pretty much all the time
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Probably not even 1
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: we use plex too
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBDCq6Q8k2E
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: sure if you have a crawler 300Gb is nothing, as long as you have enough storage space :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: watch alot of netflix and youtube, 5GB would last 2 days
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used to run an nntp cache server
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You must live a monk lifestyle Ana
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: When I don't have internet, I can eat up a full 4GB of data on my phone in a couple days. My desktop would eat that like....welll like nothing
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: I've thought about netflix, but I don't have access to a big screen, and I'll be damned if I'll pay to watch a movie on a miniature.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: ... Don't have a big screen? What is this, the 90s?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: netflix is cheap, watch on phone, computer monitor, bigscreen
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I had access to that for a while, and they didn't have anything really good to watch. I gave it up.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you're paying to watch unlimited movies, not to watch a movie...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Dat CRT mang
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: sure unlimited movies on a tiny screen.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well... on any screen.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: I already said I didn't have access to a big screen :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not so much movies, netflix good for tv series
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: How big is your "non big screen"?
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: 60 inch
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: What do you MUD on? There's your netflix portal.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: 18.4 :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: ... that's plenty big for watching on your lap...
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: non big screen? 1280x1024 monitor and also a nexus 4 phone
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Welcome to 2016, where we watch movies on things OTHER than a 60 inch TV.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: I know, but it's not a big screen when it comes to watching movies.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its relative to how close you sit to it
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: That's te silliest argument I've ever heard my man :P
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: yeah, we've been brainwashed into watching movies on a 7" screen :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I watch it on my phone at time, dat 7" woot!
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I watch movies on my iWatch by pressing it to my face
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Immformed Anaristos looks at Bishoujo Raded and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: you are an unsung hero :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: mis!
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: You are an unsung hereo
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that I am.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: mis :P
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded crosses his arms and nods sagely to himself.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, 32" TV at wallymart for $140
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: smart tvs are the rave now. I think they are able to get up and get you some coffee when they see you twitch.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: I've never been inside a Walmart :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: they ship to hermits also
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: neither have i
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Not a bad thing.
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: but then we dont have walmart in australia :)
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that is so unamerican of you
T3/r7/2016-02-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: it probably means that what you buy still has some decent quality :op
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: safe to update my portal mapper db entries with new bag with game running with sqlite client?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't try that, hann
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: best to close the game if you're doing anything like that, although an even better option is to just use a variable so the portal entries themselves never need to change
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the database will protect itself, if its locked you cannot write to it
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also the plugins create/use/destroy the db reference when you portal, its not an always open connection
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but i would agree with you, a function is best to use so it can be updated without re-doing portals
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: ok thanks I will redo them with a variable
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: someone come kill my dsl installers
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: is there a way in windows 8 to have a program always start with a different priority?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: hey, how do I fix ht to where it'll go to the next one if it says you have no idea what you're doing? :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: you don't want it to go to the next one after that
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: oh...wait there is a fix for that
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: yeah I do, when I don't have hunt
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: i was thinking can't hunt message
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: if you are using it for the hunt trick, the output of the command is not important.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: check tech board theoracle posted a fix in there
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: except when it says "you can't hunt that mob for some reason"
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: yeah I want it to hunt the next mob because I don't have hunt untill 20 heh :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: s&d is a missing a trigger if you can't hunt out of the box
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not missing a trigger. Just had a changed trigger.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: the trick is to do hunt <some_int_var>.<mob_keyword> and just increment <some_int_var> each iteration.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: you have an initial alias that sets up the variables and then an interator.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: found it for you.  read note 6947
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: found it for you.  read note 6948
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: in cmud I use this lua script: function hm() hnum = hnum + 1 if hmob ~= nil then send( "hunt "..hnum.."."..hmob )  end end
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: there are two
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: found it for you.  read note 6949?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: which board?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: tech board. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And don't pay attention to me, I was mocking Hann. ;)
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: haha there really are 2 notes lol
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I know, Hann. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: ahh got it, thank you :)
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get your mushclient questions in
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Izocinoc Tech: why do bad things happen to good mushclient users?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Penance.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Arr
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: There's a reason as a pirate captain that I use CMUD.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: penzance?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Robbo nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: 'e's the Pirate of Penance
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Robbo's a modern major general
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I just got Search & Destroy, and it doesn't give me hyperlinks. Is there a way to fix that?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysserid Tech: Is there any way to drop the opacity of buttons in Blowtorch?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: finger nokfah for the s&d fix
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: if your xrt is broken
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: kylia - are you getting double cp check output? if you have bast also then you could get s&d links first then regular output afterward
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: no, not getting double output.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: getting nothing fro S on cp check
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: from S and D
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: I get double output.  is there an easy fix for that or just edit the xml.  i see s&d is supposed to do a check to prevent double cp check
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hann - try disabling xbroadcastcp from bast - it wont show up for statmon if you have it, but it will eliminate the double check
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: hmm i like the statmon and also use bast event window for gq's.  i'll have to look at the xml
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use the xbroadcast_cp for other stuff so I kept it enabled and removed the "cp check" it sends
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: ill probably do the same thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh kylia - did you just get s&d or did you get the triple pack that includes mapper extender?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Don't know, endymion. 
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Just clicked on a link
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Yesterday I got it.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: check your plugin list for WinkleWinkle plugins.. there should be mapper extender, s&d, and s&d GUI
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the mapper extender is what gives the hyperlinks
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: hmm. only have one plugin.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: go here and look for triple pack listed:  https://code.google.com/archive/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Will do, and thanks again:)
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodaholic Tech: how do i set macro's?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> macros
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if on MUSHclient
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodaholic Tech: im on mudlet :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if not on MUSHclient, we'd need to know client first
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use MUSHclient instead :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really the only reason to use Mudlet is if you're already very familiar with it
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient is actively developed, with a crapton of existing scripts and support
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodaholic Tech: ill check if i can get that
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you don't have a strong connection to any client, or scripts already set up that you'd miss terribly, switch to MUSH
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (note that I personally don't use MUSHclient, but I still recommend it for nearly everyone)
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://abelinc.me/maclinux
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodaholic Tech: im using ubuntu, where can download MUSHclient, the software center doesnt have it
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: run it under Wine
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: fonger abelinc
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: er, finger
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually finger fiendish :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger abelinc for logs and a couple MUSH scripts...finger bast for a ton of MUSH scripts
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mohan nods at you in agreement.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodaholic Tech: aah man what a mission, still have to set up wine
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: have abelinc set up wine for you
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodaholic Tech: whats abelinc?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: that's a loaded question
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: a tool perhaps?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: or a repository of knowledge
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc is the name of my main character...on here I'm usually called Abe or Abelinc :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: But right now he is Biker, pronounced beaker
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Biker looks for Bunsen
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodaholic Tech: nah its fine, have to go sleep in a while
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: aardwolf blog is returning "this site may be hacked" in google
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: known issue or something new?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: i think it is just your system.  No issue like that for me
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in where in google?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I'm using chrome, don't see anything like that either directly or in a search
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in the search -- it's not "my system" Gener, it's a response returned by google search
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it can still be your system with a virus.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: or you are spelling it wrong  :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just searched for "aardwolf blog" on google and don't see that anywhere
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, so you think I might have a virus affected specifically the search response of google?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: it is possible you r search page was hijacked.  
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: try search for "Aardwolf psi" --  I get the blog "Mage, Psi, Cleric spell upgrades" as a hit, and the warning is there
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: just google it - google thinks theres suspicious stuff on the page
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, Gener, it possible, but really rather unlikely.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: okay since you are the only one having thee issue... it is not your system  haha
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: nothing here
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I just googled it, opened all results without problems.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do see that message for that page
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: I see it as well under the aardwolf psi search 3rd result
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the only one except for the other two
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ive gotten hit several times by google's robot-exclusion system.  i think it has something to do with my browser not identifying itself or the originating page.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's a pretty stupid message, really...they want lasher to register with google search console
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i see "This site is definitely hacked." for the mikeride.chaosnet.org hit
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that'd be neat endy
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, you need to use google webmaster to find out why it is giving this warning
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm wondering if it's due to the "https" protocol.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not getting the "hacked" message, but I do have "https" crossed out in the url.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: It do to google finding something strange on the page -- it may be wrong, but it probably needs checkign
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malor Tech: gawl
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malor Tech: there's a poop protocol
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: Something strange on an Aardwolf blog page. It boggles the mind.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malor Tech: and it boggles the poop
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, there's nothing strange on the blog page, it's just heuristics...
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: It's noy myistics
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: not
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: building something similar to S&D, looking for people to test it out
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, what would be the incentive for them when S&D is already here?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: and what version of mush should it run on?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any? I don't know limitations across versions..
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: what version of mush do you run it on?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: currently 4.98
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardmush version is much more important than mush version...
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it might not run on lower.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: to Biker, some people like Pepsi even though Coke is better
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just offering something different
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hoping to make it highly customizable
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what are the features?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: still in dev currently.. just trying to see if there's interest
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you gonna post a note or something?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: what sets it apart from s&d?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: want window to be movable/transparent
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: will incorporate mapper
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure if I want to make it clickable like S&D or not
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: will do a lot of fun scripty stuff
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the difference is that you will probably be able to customize UI
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and probably other little differences
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't really use S&D myself so.. can't say if it'll be a viable alternative.. that's why I'm looking for testers
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: obviously you'd be able to suggest changes
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just looking to get a base version out there with a few (5-6 or so) testers to let me know what they think and suggest changes
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if anyone else is interested PST, I'll add you to my friends list so I remember to send you info when I get the original version finished
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd post a note on the tech board
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm kk, might do that
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't want to hype it too much until I have it at a good spot and it's actually useful
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Droog Tech: what is s&d?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Seek and Destroy
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search*
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Search*
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Winkle Winkle's plugin for campaigns/quests and maybe other things
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oops sorry
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so it looks like the gmcp handler crashes if you call it on the login screen... think that's an issue, or an invalid use case?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes to which one?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the 2nd one :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Both. It's an invalid use case, but it should also fail gracefully
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it probably depends on how you call it...GMCP itself should be active, but you have not received any information yet
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so if i have a timer trying to access gmcp information, what do you figure the best way to work around this would be? trigger on the motd to enable it?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Trigger on your prompt?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't sit at the login screen ;-)
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: would prefer something static, people have different prompts
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: char.status.state should be accurate
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i can't access that :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i could enable the timer on a broadcast though, i guess
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why cant you pull state?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: endy: his issue was trying to access before initialized
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i assumed it was certain info that was not yet populated, but that state would be
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: there is a MOTD state right?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: char isn't initialized at all
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's before you have a char...
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but why is a timer trying to access GMCP rather than GMCP driving?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the timer updates a miniwindow, the text changes based on subclass
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Supposedly char.status.state has an 'at login screen' status, but I've not been able to successfully work off of it.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: I seem to only have the last update my char had while logged in.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: onbroadcast rather than timer to drive
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, it's an actual timer though :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I can't imagine a situation where that's the right implementation
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's my enchanting script's status miniwindow, it tracks focus time
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but if you're not enchanter, it just says unavailable
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh hes calling it on the login screen.  just use onbroadcast for char.info and check state
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...so onbroadcast of char, you get the subclass
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no timer necessary
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to track focus time, you grab system time when focus goes up, and diff it when focus goes down
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i do that, yes
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and then i have a timer to update the miniwindow once a second
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so there's no reason to have an actual timer
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so it says focus up for 5:39
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then ticks down to 5:38
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: only enabling the timer when you're an enchanter is a good idea though
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on {affon}575,([0-9]+) to create the timer...
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: since i apparently need a delay to enable it anyway :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to be refreshing if you're not under focus either (or when recovery done, if you track that side as well with {recon})
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, it toggles between focus up for <time>, focus down for <time>, and ready
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...but no need to refresh at any time that you're not in a known state...
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is there a way to make the miniwindow update automatically then?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not under recovery, there's no need to refresh "ready"
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on recon...that should create the timer for its duration...trigger on recoff, that should turn off the timer
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you log in, no need for timer, you don't know current status
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you really needed to, you could do OnPluginTick, which is called 25 times a second. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: for what? :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that's how i drive my atomic mud clock
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You were talking about refreshig.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once a second...
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: keep a counter and only do it 1/25 times
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tick timer in the statusbar refreshes every other second
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't need quite that much precision for spellup duration tracking :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yep, so set a counter, since it's called 25 times a second. When that counter hits 25, refresh, and reset counter.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that bothered me, i changed it to every second :P
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: still not sure what benefit there would be in using OnPluginTick over a normal timer
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: for count downs i use 1/3 of a second or so, i dont like seeing the skippiness of it
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I only joined in, so I don't know of any previous conversation. I would have imagined timer was the first thing brought up.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And since the conversation was still going, I had imagined timer was shut down.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, he currently uses a 1-second timer
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem is that that timer called GMCP handler...
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i was just fueling arci's idea of the 1/25 second cause its awesomely overkill
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it calls it before you're logged in and craps out
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so I'm suggesting using something in-game to kick off the timer
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and not to leave it running full/time
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yup, already working that in :)
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've gotta trig on affon and recon for what the miniwin is showing anyway, so might as well use them to start it
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why not use OnPluginLineReceived, and then enable the timer on that line? Or trigger on the connected line? Basically, trigger off prompt.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he looks up whether you're enchanter, so onpluginbroadcast of that info can be used to initialize the rest, turning off pretty much everything in the plugin if not enchanter
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: On a side note of timers, anyone know which file is the tick timer that comes with AardMUSH? For some reason, mine seems to be missing.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: aardwolf_tick_timer.xml
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Aardwolf_Tick_Timer.xml
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm... Well now.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Thanks. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not sure HOW I missed that.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Probably scrolled right past it, and looked for tick timer instead. Bah.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: is there a good way to reenable all buff spells with bast spellup after a bunch of them got disabled because someone gave you a spellup?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bsp refresh
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: nah that's not it.  for example, if someone casts sanctuary on me bsp will disable it from my spellup spells because I already have the affect.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it wears off, it should go back on
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: it doesn't thought.  it stays disabled
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: ill take a closer look next time one expires and see if anything happens
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, the command I should've given was "bsp spellup refresh"...can also try "bsp add all"
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why would a plugin disable anything?  the mud spellup command should do the job for spellup right?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: doesnt the plugin work off of affoff?
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It should, yes. I've never had Bast's spellup plugin do that, even with spellups.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does work off affon/affoff, but also sfail, which is where it would disable them
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: yea like if you have have aura of sanctuary it wont try to cast sanctuary it will just disable the spell
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't use the mud spellup command, because it offers more granularity
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But when you take the aura off, it'll cast it normally. It's the same with helm of true sight.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: i dont think that is the case.  when i was wearing and invis ring earlier it kept cast invisible disabled when i took it off.  i will do some more testing though
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: well even after i lost invis buff
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I /know/ it's the case because I use it exclusively.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh wait.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, I do have to do bsp senable 'true seeing' afterwards.
T3/r7/2016-02-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But when someone else spells me up, I hadn't had that happen. Weird.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: weirdos like me!
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: Anyone has recommended script that i can install for my Mushclient for PUP/Lveling speed?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: im using version 4.84
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: statmonitor by bast?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: lemme try!
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: cant seem to load
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: do i need to match anythign for the script to work?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i just installed the statmonitor with statdb.xml
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it's in the same folder as all bast's scripts
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: nods, i cant seem to install it.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: i downloaded from Bast too, the entire folder.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: did you install statdb, then statmonitor?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: just tried doing so - failed. statdb unable to load
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: that is odd.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: try installing pluginlist.xml
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: then install statdb.xml, then statmonitor.xml
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: plugin list failed too
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ellydris Tech: what is the message you get when it fails? it says that it failed if it's already installed.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: that is really odd. you can try Sharptracker205g by Opochtli. you can google it. and follow instruction from his site.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: it's a whole chunk of words. and i checked my plugin - nothing
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: anyone know what pathfind system is in the runto script?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The longest one possible.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: if it's a breath-first or a*?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: or anything of the sort?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: runto doesnt use a pathfind.  its a set of directions you can only use from recall
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: so It's just a memory list of paths, k.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: So if one was to make a faster updated version to take in the player(passdoor,keys,portals,etc) that would be more then useful.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: like mapper?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's already been done on MUSH...
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Mapper goto does that already.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: mapper, on mushclient/
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Unless you're looking for a different client, then by all means, it's probably there too. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: hmmm, k. Is the mapper in the default download off the site?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which site
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: aardwolf.mud
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I get server not found for http://aardwolf.mud
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah, you dont see a big map?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're getting it off the Aardwolf site, then yes, it's the one that comes with all the bells and whistles.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try mapper help
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: k, i'm on a client atm.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: thanks for the information:)
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try mapper help
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oops :P
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Can someone tell me how to set-up an Alias in Mush Client with a wildcard? My example I am doing is rt * = runto %0. But when I do it, the entire alias I enter rt area is included in the variable... so I end up with runto rt area
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: instead of runto area
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: try %1, %0 could be full text
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok Thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: That did it :) your awesome
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: I think so too!
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pyronoia )
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: is it possible to add commas to the gold amount in the mushclient stat miniwindow? it bothers me and I fiddled around with it but wasn't successful lol
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Amusingly, on Tanaya's version, the commas WERE added, and she's not done anything to the stat window.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what version?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm not sure, I'll have to have her check when she gets home.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mine doesn't have commas
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Right, nor does mine. But her stat window does, and I'm not sure why or how.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And she doesn't recall ever making changes (because someone would have had to make the change for her).
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's a simple fact of adding a require 'commas' and then I think using the function comma() to get it to display, but when you upgrade the client, you'll lose it again.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Heh, just updated MUSH and love the new background Nick put in for the latest version.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: apparently his daughter made it
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the colors are quite nice
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Tripped me out at first, admittedly. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, seems the automatic package updater is working just fine, on my end. Very smart to remove all plugins and take all those extra precautions.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yay
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I had to do that because plugins were locking files open
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I forget why that mattered
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let me see if the commit logs say anything
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: odds are it was a file access error on the help.db if the help plugin was loaded
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or something. I don't know. I guess not important to remember now
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: what could be turning my channel tags on repeatedly? I keep turning them off, and they just keep turning back on.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you dont use the aard mush comm log?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: comm log?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah, channels only output window
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: yeah, I do ... and I have for a long time, but I've never had the tags always showing before now
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: are your triggers flipped off?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: they shouldnt.  mine are on but dont show in output
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think there's a trigger to gag the tags
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: ugh ... I have a terrible mushclient problem atm, and I'm almost ready to move on to something else
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: for some reason, it doesn't echo my commands
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: although it's set to
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hrmmm
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: and the mud somehow interprets my aliases as commands
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: have a trigger to replace Send with SendNoEcho? :P
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: so it fires the alias, then tells me I can't do that
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sounds like a send to execute
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 'keep evaluating' would send to mud after
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you might have a setting flipped on
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: ... this set up is the same as in my old lap top ... and it doesn't do that there
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then it's obviously not the same, is it
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: its' just on my new lap top with the new mush
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: the settings are the same
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: even the plugins were the same
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I'm thinking of reinstalling, but with an older version
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: under file -> world properties -> output you have it checked to echo your commands right?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and the color isn't black right?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: yup!
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: k :(
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: color is orange
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: always hoping for the equivalent of "is it plugged in?"
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You could just use the MUDside command of echocommands.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I hear you ... but I've had Fiendish checking it out, but I think he's given up
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: how, Arcid?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: type echocommands
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: okies ... you know, I have an alias called "mob" ... which is mind over matter. When I type that, it runs the spell, and then it gives me the mob command output 
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: so ... what you had me type helped because I now see what I type, but the mud is still trying to interpret my aliases as commands
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: Arcid, do you think a reinstall with another version might help?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's possible. You should upgrade to the latest versions usually, anyway.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: but that's what I have now
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I never upgrade :P
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or just copy your aardwolf.mcl file over
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: once I have one that works
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What does checkversion say?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I have copied it
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: r1825
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK so open up one of your aliases that is showing this problem, take a screenshot, and let us see what the alias window looks like.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: okies ... hang on
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: okies ... where do I send it?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: Metria ... where should I put for ppl to see it?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Got an imgur account? Upload it as a private photo, then just share the link.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: don't have one
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: so my bast spellup pluggin started being weird and it keeps missing a spellup tag every so often and that basically jams it.. no idea why it's suddenly being weird
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan frowns.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No one else knows why, either.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've had terrible luck with all of the plugins I've installed
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: seems like they all don't like me
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: any clue if you've added a trigger or alias lately that might be getting in the way?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: not that I can tell
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I wish I was more familiar with the plugin.. can't say much from experience
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: reloaded a copy of my aardwolf world variables from earlier without plugin changes and same issue
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: world variables includes aliases/trigs?
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: also in-game triggers could mess things up I think
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: err in-game aliases I mean
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trewellan Tech: I confess I am old player returning.  Was curious if there is a way to restore 2 deleted characters? (my last log in was about a year ago). Sorry if wrong channel. it's been some time and i know no one! 
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If they're deleted, no.
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trewellan Tech: ok at least my main one survived
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: if they are archived, help archive
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trewellan Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: try fingering them
T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trewellan Tech: ah! thank you on the archive
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: what's the correct syntax to alias mf to mapper find (string) in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Questioner Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: mf *
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: then Execute("mapper find %1")
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: make sure to make it a script
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am almost there. keep going
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: quick question
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan shoots Kilfer.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: whenever I use search and destroy I get a run-time error with xrt
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too new mush client
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: S&D isn't compatible with new versions of mush?
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either use old mush client or apply Nokfah's fix
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: spamish
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan frowns.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: good thing for Nokfahs
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: new mush (aard package) has dropped date_added (or similar) field that was used by S&D to determine first room of area
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: Plugin: WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_8 (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: Function/Sub: xrun_to called by alias
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: Reason: processing alias ""
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: no such column: r.date_added
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: stack traceback:
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: [C]: in function 'nrows'
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: [string "Plugin"]:733: in function <[string "Plugin"]:717>
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: [C]: in function 'Execute'
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: [string "Plugin"]:683: in function 'goto_list_item'
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: [string "Plugin"]:661: in function <[string "Plugin"]:652>
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hierophant Tech: Please don't spam.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oohhhhh I was wondering...
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: i warned
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I got that error and got pissed off and quit using S&D
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: tried a few diff times and that is only one to work.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, see above
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: So is there a way to get another older version?
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or you can wait for my plugin to come out
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: I can't seem to install his fix
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think they have the old versions somewhere?
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: give me an error and opens it up in a diff window
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: says there was a problem loading the plugin
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Ice Kilfer Tech: [WARNING] C:\Users\myname\Downloads\e0eb198d8d5698e3b2f61483-b6eae87ccedd84f510b74715-state.xml Line   10: No plugin found (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan looks at Ice Ice Kilfer ponderingly.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wish I could offer more help man.. kind of new to plugins and S&D in general
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: err new to S&D and plugins in general* but same diff I guess
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you could use github to get one of past releases
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Anyone point me to a regex generator? where I can enter several sentences and it build a regex to fit all of them?
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: you should find one on google
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: all the ones I find you have to build the regex and then it lets you test the sentences.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: what would be the smartest way to make mush ignore movement commands when fighting?
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: how do I get the search and destroy plugin to show quest info like it does cp info? with links? when I first get the quest it does it, but after autorun I cannot figure out how to get the link sagain... 
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: cp c does it for campaigns but i cant figure out quests
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: I just scroll back to get it again if I need it
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You just need nx for next room on that link list.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: or you can just type quest info, if you need to see your mob.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: k thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But if you're autorunning to your mob, then that's illegal anyway.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: illiegal?  lol    S&D gives a link
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: really? the runto command they teach in academy is illegal?
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: it's not autorunning if you click a link
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I said autorunning.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which is what was said.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Autorunning meaning that you request the quest, and through no interaction on your part, you automatically run to the mob.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I didn't say "Using runto is illegal, or clicking a link is illegal."
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ahh, nah I aint smart enough for that, I can barely figure out how to make the thing work
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: You have to click on the link
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gener Tech: ohh  yeah  I see now
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think it's just a mixup of terms: Pyro said "autorun" but meant the mapper goto command that fires when he clicks or does some sort of input.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Raded: You can never tell, though, and better to be safe than sorry. I've seen people doing illegal things because they didn't "know". :p
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: autorun would be if you did "quest request" and you had a trigger that ran you to your mob without further input.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No it would not.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, well then I'm confused :p
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, my mistake. I threw in the word "fine" in your statement.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I thought you said "autorun would be fine" not "autorun would be if" :P
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: okay, so now we've cleared that up and scared everyone else away.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne is dyxlesic.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: took me a couple of reads, I'll admit
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Those who use Google Drive can get a free additional 2GB if you go to http://www.google.com/ and click the Security Checkup link at the bottom and go through it.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lenovo X120E Intel Atom 320GB SSD 11.6" Notebook - Refurbished -- 43% off retail price at $189.00. Not too bad a deal...
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: eh, if yer into that sort of thing.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Comes with Windows 7 Premium, 4GB memory...
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: OS is not eligible for upgrade. *srun*
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What are you looking to do with it?
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Not going to buy it myself.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: the heck it aint.  xp ftw.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But anyone looking for a notebook at a decent price and a solid state drive...
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Also, "hoverboards" 62% off retail of $899, priced at $339.00.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: heh, buy a gallon of gasoline for 1percent of that price, and still do that whole blazing-glory thing.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I love choxi.com -- heavily discounted prices. I've gotten a few things from there.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Got 4 64GB USB flash drives for a total of $20 or so.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ive heard they have great deals.  not sure i trust that kind of discounting, tho - ive seen cheap import goods go seriously bad.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Some of these are brand names, though.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: well sure, they might be.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Dell Latitude D620 Intel Core Duo 100GB 14.1" Notebook - down from $600 to $184.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 100 pack of duracell batteries for $39.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Can't really beat that price, considering a 10 pack runs $10. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: last time i got a really good deal on batteries, it wasnt such a good deal.  they looked fine, but didnt last nearly as long as they should have.  measured them with a micrometer for chuckles - they were also slightly undersized.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, Google backs up Choxi with its guarantees, too.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: interesting.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i wasnt aware that google guaranteed anything.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They offer buyer protection.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So essentially they guarantee you're protected. :)
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what are the warranties these days on computer equipments
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depends who you buy from, I'd imagine.
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the level of the equipment
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: just bought a lenovo .. mine is for a year
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so with Lenovo, not the retailer
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, they're "manufacturer's warranties
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: and .. gotta say, they were good about it, too .. had to send it in right off for a new motherboard
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get extended warranties from manufacturer, retailer, or third party
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: got the mail-in box the very next day, and the computer itself back in less than a week
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what did that cost in postage
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: was all done through UPS, at no charge to me
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my personal preference is get extended "anything goes" warranty for laptops, and not for anything else...although professionally you should have extended warranties for the entire amortized value of the equipment
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: - and, I didn't even buy it from lenovo
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: now .. tirger direct ... is another story
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: grrrr
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I had to go through the better business bureau ... since CMP bought them, they no longer accept returns ... at all
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be able to go to the manufacturer rather than to tiger direct for warranty issues
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: they sell broken crap, and you're stuck with it
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: lucky that Lenovo handled it
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I just looked at their policy...http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/help/return.asp
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: in the last decade +, we've had one issue after another with tiger direct. Done with them!
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I got in touch with the BBB in their state, and they jumped fast when I did
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not even accepting returns on DOA is pretty insane
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amazon's just gonna bury them
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: I hope so
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: they've been nothing but trouble for us for a long while now
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never really used them...used outpost.com years ago, then used compgeeks a ton until they stopped their estore for a year or two...now amazon's got everything cheaper than anyone but distributors
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Ancient Moofie Tech: well, I'm still OK with New Egg ... so far
T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Newegg has good service, but they aren't always the lowest price (if that's important to you)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Can't end task on Cortana, can't uninstall Cortana, yet every crash I've had lately is because of Cortana.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: why are you running software named after a cheap bond-villain knockoff?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Neytiri Tech: why you using cortana in the first place?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't. It's disabled, but the process still runs.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: is there a way to add new macro key options? Mush is very limited...
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: google mushclient accelerator function
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator here I found it for you
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: I had seen a mention of it but hadnt been able to get it working
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: will try again then though
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: do you have the script file set up?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ctrl-shift-h should bring it up if you do, that is where you need to put it for it to work(worth mentioning you can put it other places but this is the easiest)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: AcceleratorTo ("key you want to use", "what you want key to do", sendto.world) <--- can change the sendto to suit your needs
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: but read the info sonet sent to you
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: so I just tested this, find what your run script tag is, mine is /script yours should be something like ///. I typed /script Accelerator ("Ctrl+K", "kill") now any time, within this session I hit ctrl-k it sends kill
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: got it
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: anyone have any experience with the openKinect Api?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no, how does it taste?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: So far not so good, I am trying to figure out if I need to build a windows machine to run the server on the standard SDK or if I can use a linux box to drive one with openKinect
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: is it possible to macro or alias the Mapper cexit commands to make mapping eeasier?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: can you tell me how to set them? When I use mine it gives me the message on screden that "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles."
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I made an alias: ^mc(\w+)$ -- that returned local directions = { u = "up", d = "down", n = "north", e = "east", s = "south", w = "west"} local dir = directions["%1"] Execute("mapper cexit open " .. dir .. ";;" .. dir)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And send to script.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But you can use the same concept for anything.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can use mc <command> if you need to.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's just useful for cexiting doors.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: so if I send my alias to script it should work? Id love to know how to use yours but it looks confusing :)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It looks confusing because it's all on one line.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you using it mainly for the doors or for other custom exits?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: for mapping doors.... cexit open e;e, cexit open w;w etc
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Okay, hold on then, let me pastebin my alias for you.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: awesome, thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just copy this, open aliases, and choose paste: http://pastebin.com/UQ3FJarN
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: ok done... how do I use it?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go to the area with a door that you want to create a custom exit for. Then just type 'mc<dir>' (so mcu for up, mcd for down, etc)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: wow, thats easy enough :), Thanks! I'll test it now
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: outstanding :) Thanks SO much
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Quite welcome. You can modify it to work with other custom exits too, though. Or I can, whichever. I should, actually.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: there is still no guard at the Military Corridor at Kingsholm
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He's taking a break.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: See, he's in the mess hall stuffing his face full of food. What do you want him for?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or the senior guards in the barracks. Heh.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i killed all those guards
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: For that matter, why is this a tech question?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i thought it was supposed to be
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Does not compute.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: sorry about that
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why are you looking for a guard?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i gotta kill a guard to get a key to kill junel
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The door is passdoorable.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're welcome, by the way.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: =)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Pssst, I have a question if someone has time... :)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: 42
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: 36
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: 42 is correct.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish yawns.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i think 42 is correct
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan is agreeing with that a healer person again...
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: we could guess answers all day
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Ok this is going to sound strange but... can a tower somehow NOT make a computer display video? If that makes sense
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Like... sorry, this might be long-winded... lemme explain what happened.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a tower of what
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: yes.. it's called no video card
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: pop the video card out and default to the onboard video
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I'm pretty sure this is a 36er now...
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: I bought a new tower recently for my friend, we put it together & it won't display any video. It has a working gpu, working RAM, working processor, working motherboard - everything works. I take all those parts & put them into my tower & they work fine.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: I put them into ANOTHER older tower I have, they work fine.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: it's not the tower
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: check the PSU make sure its getting power
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: I take any combination of parts and put them in any tower & they work... except this new tower I got. NOTHING works.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Yeah the PSU works fine, too.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: then check the MoBo make sure all the connections are fine
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Motherboard is fine, everything's plugged in correctly
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: But no matter what I do, I keep getting "Entering Power Save Mode" on the monitor
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: the tower's power button wire is faulty
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: yeah means something is not getting power/turning on from somewhere
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: does it power on?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: will have to trace everything
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Well like... it's weird, everything powers on, all the fans spin on everything, including the gpu
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: same video card as the one used in other tower or what? any noise from PC? monitors go in power saving mode for a number of reasons... maybe its displying wrong channel
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: It's only hooked up via HDMI
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: try chaging input... or setting input to auto
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: your power on button (wire) is faulty
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Ok, so it's not just me losing my goddamn mind thinking then
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: something is grounding..you might want to check your video card on another tower again..make sure it didn't burn out from the problem tower's power wire
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: gorram..
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Yeah, I did. I plugged the gpu back into my tower & the older one - runs perfectly.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: yeah if it is case specific, see if the grapics card is in a bind in the slot... might be messing it up
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: k.. change the power wire
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: I even put my brand new GPU into this new tower & not displaying any video
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: meowshin: stop
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: sorry..it's just that i've experienced what he is describing
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: please don't ban me..i was only trying to help
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not an imm. I can't ban anyone.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thott Tech: some cases make it very hard to correctly get the GPU plugged into the slot.. only thing I can think of if it works with other case still and all same hardware
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Just gonna call Rosewill & see if they'll do an exchange
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: btw..that's alot of towers you have
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rosewill is just newegg's house brand, isn't it?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: if you have a voltage check you can see if the wiring is faulty on the tower's power button
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: fiendish yes it is
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: it can't be the PSU unless your video card requires a secondary power source
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish gives a thumbs-up to Meowshin.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: which video card?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Sorry, was calling
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: The one we first tried was the Radeon R9 290x
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: if your mobo has an onboard vga, test it first to confirm
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Then we tried my new one the Sapphire R9 390x
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: That's the other problem.. the motherboard doesn't have on-board VGA
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: then it is narrowed down to the tower's power wire
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's an easy way to test the power button assembly being a problem
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: then how are you trying to power it?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: it has GPU slots
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: it's the MSI 970 Gaming motherboard
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: did you hook the GPU up to the PSU?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: using which cable?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: For this gpu, it's the dual 4x2
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: and you hooked up both?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i'm willing to wager 5 tp points that it's the power wire
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Yeah, both 4x2's
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: I sent that to ft, oops lol
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: meowshin: suggest a test to confirm that doesn't involve "buy a new switch"
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: I've even reseated the RAM, tried different RAM, reseated & tried three different processors, two different motherboards, two different PSUs...
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: meowshin: maybe something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_2kyt5p10c
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: yes..that is a good recommendation Fiendish
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: Escobar, check the link that Fiendish provided
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: I'm not seeing that power on/off thing, or anything similar, on this mobo
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's whatever the power switch attaches to 
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: So it'll be above the JFP1?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: couldn't tell you
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Yeah, I don't think this mobo has that, for whatever reason. :(
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how do you turn it on?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you push a button, right?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he vanished
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hirozan chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Sorry, yeah. I pushed the button the case
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded slaps Plz Freeze Escobar.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there, I woke him up for you
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok good. how does that button attach to the motherboard?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: From the plugs that go into the JFP1 socket (is that the right word? lol)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are there 2 pins in that connection?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: unplug the button and short those two pins
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (briefly)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Ok I gotta figure out how to peel off all this glue on there
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: why glue? you must have plugged and unplugged it already?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes connecting USB to mobo can cause what you are experiencing
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Well, right now, the tower is completely barren. I put all the parts away
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: I thought he was talking about from the panel where you PRESS the power button
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, disconnect the button from the motherboard, not from the case
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Ohhh
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you got some dangly wires dangling around yeah? make em dangle more.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Yeah the case is empty right now. I guess I should rebuild it then lol
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my money is on a short too, though not necessarily in the power button
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could have metal contacting the case body
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Ok I'm gonna try it again :) I have Rosewill calling soon, ty for the help!
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: I know I'm way late to this conversation and someone might have mentioned this but did you put the standoffs in the problem case?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Plz Freeze Escobar Tech: Hey so uhhh... I put the PC back together and tried Trachx's suggestion of plugging the USB plug into a different slot... and the computer is now displaying video. I'm so confused.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 2
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You skipped 1. Please refer back to kindergarten counting.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Can someone give me the name or url for the S&D fix for newer versions of Mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: finger nokfah
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: ewww
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: thanks:)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: you talking about the xrt error?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I went to nokfah's S&D fix site, and there are 4 files. Do I need them all?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Mapper_Extender is a must, the ...-state.xml is for convenience. The other two are just copies of what you already have.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Thanks, Nokfah:)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Send me a tell if you run into an issue
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: ok:)
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Think a bad RAM stick could cause slowdowns, even if the other sticks would be more than enough to handle the load?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: One of my programs is acting wonky, and just noticed that my comp says I have 2GB less RAM than it should
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Bad RAM causes crashes, not slowdowns
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: I've had that happen before.  I took the ram out, cleaned the MB with air and then replaced.  Fixed it, for now...
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Shitty ram causes slowdowns, bad ram causes your comp to not boot
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: hmm, comp properties says 6GB installed, 4GB available.  Shouldn't be that much of a differnce, should it?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of Windows?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: 7
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: some video cards reserve ram, but prolly not that much
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: 64-bit, sorry
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Are you using like home edition?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: yes, but premium
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Home premium max on x86 is 4gb, 16 on x64
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: nods, I have 64
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: pretty sure my task manager has always showed 6 GB of physical memory available
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: before
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: The only thing it can be really, since 6 is listed, meaning the sticks are working, is that you have them seated bad, or out of "order"
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I'll try to reinstall the sticks later tonight
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: First try reseating them
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Are they all 3 the same brand?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I believe so, but don't recall for sure
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wait.. you have three?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: I believe so, but not positive
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh I thought he said 3 2g sticks
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: it's been a while :P
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Three sticks is not unheard of, but it's unusual
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: If they're not the same, or two are
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: If they're not the same, or two are put the matching rams in #1 and #3, and the odd ram in #2
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Grab a copy of Speccy and run it
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I just use memtest, small program
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: whatever combination I put in there, I imagine I would have researched some to make sure it was a good idea
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: but nods, will deal with it later tonight
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: working right now
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: how do I reset the S&D window?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It updates when you type cp c or gq c
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: xset reset guit
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ablu Tech: thanks xset did the trick ... the top bar was pushed beyond menu bar
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: is the S&D updated?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: finger nokfah for the update
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: there is no player with that name
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: oops misttyped..damn fat fingers
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: is there a site that can show me how to use it?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Install it, type xcp 1, win
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: install the xml?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Press ctrl+alt+p
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Then add, and navigate to file
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I just dropped the whole thing in world/plugins to be safe
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: you mean ctrl shift p for plugin window
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Not alt mb
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: oh..so i do have to download the xml
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just download the newest S&D, and maybe the fix if needed, drop em in the plugin folder
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It's 3 xml files I think?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: what folder?.. scripts?
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: dont matter
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can navigate to the folder when you load it
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I think it`s world/plugins
T3/r7/2016-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: From aard folder
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: I have a .txt file as a script - how do i load it into mush?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how it was done...the author should have instructions
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: Cant get in touch with author yet :p
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally, it should be an .xml file that you would go to file -> plugins
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: does #alias bla bla bla
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: means i copy and paste it into mush?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #alias bla bla would be a zmud file
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: oh :(
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: probably, mush has that too
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardMUSH has a plugin to allow you to use the #alias syntax...but if you have a script file containing that, it's definitely not for MUSH and the script file won't work
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: nods, thanks alot Abe for always helping me out on tech issues.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You are cheered on by Cyrni... you feel so loved! 
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: if it's a lua script you should be able to just 'require' it in, if I'm not mistaken
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a lua script wouldn't be using that syntax
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah, it'd be in.. well, Lua :D
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: unless it's in python, but now I'm just being difficult :)
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: btw, do I need to have .lua files in mush's lua folder in order to require them in?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I'm hoping not, but it's no big deal if so
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: require looks anywhere in your LUA_PATH environment variable
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you'd probably be better off with dofile instead of require though, that lets you specify an absolute path
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: okay, thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: though require allows you replace the module on the fly.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: I guess with mush that's not that important.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I should probably just post this on Gammon's forum, but is it possible to change Mush's 'wait' function to have finer resolution that integer seconds?  It can't wait for 1.5 seconds, for example, only 1, 2, 3, etc.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Citlalin: timer precision can go down to approximately* 0.1 seconds. (*- timers in Windows are actually never guaranteed. see http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10792 and http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=10793) but make sure that you have the Timer Interval in Global Preferences set to 0.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: How can I get my trigger to only recongize GQs for my level range?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What's your trigger do?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I have it looking for: has been declared for levels (.*) to (.*)
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: iirc by default you only see GQs in your level range
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I asked what's it do, not what is it looking for. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Useful Hadar.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah, right now just displaying to comm log when GQs appear
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just making sure you weren't disillusioned into auto-joining gqs.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah I want it to auto join, kill all the mobs, and get 1st place 100%
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But Hadar's right - you'll only see ones you can join.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: But seriously, I just want it to maybe play a sound when my level range pops
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rexyl crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Rake.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Because I'm terrible at remembering to check
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well then you're on the right track. But you'll have to get the triggers from Imms. They're very, VERY protective with that script, and only a select few have ever seen it under threat of permban if they ever released it.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Playing a sound when a gq range pops?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: er, when a gq pops that you can join?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: That's why they got rid of Nassah.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: He spilled the script.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just be sure to write the Imms with the subject: I pledge to permaban!
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there a certain CallPlugin I'm suppose to use for GQs?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus surreptitiously affixes an 'Imm' badge to Santa Claus's chest, hoping that nobody notices it's written in crayon.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: man you guys are harsh today
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Rake: I'm not 100% sure, but... right-click commlog, capture other info -> Global Quest...
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne pats A macabre Sonet on his head.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Seeing as you will only see the ones you can participate in, if you are capturing them enough already to send some type on note, then just google 'mushclient sound()' and that will be your last step
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: playing a sound in mush is easy though, trigger off one of the unique messages e.g. the 'type gq join' line is what mine uses (in cmud) and what i'd use in mush as well.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I play a sound when a mob dies, the trigger just sends PlaySound(0, "exp.wav", false, 0, 0) to script
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: replace exp.wav with whatever sound you want to use, leave the other crap as zeroes and then it should work.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah, if I only see ones I can participate in, so I need the (.*) to (.*) part? Or can I just look for 'has been declared for levels'
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can really just trigger off Global Quest: in general.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: the zeroes just tell it what speaker balance, volume, etc. to use, you can look that up in the docs but you can just leave them
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But more exact, go off the has been declared.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: let me find the line I trigger off of, one sec
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: here is the text of my trigger: Global Quest: Global quest # * has been declared for levels * to *.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: this is the cmud pattern, excuse the difference in wildcards
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: ^Global Quest: See 'Help Global Quests', or, type 'Gquest Join (%d)' to take part.$
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Aaaah I get it
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I use that message because it only ever shows for GQ's that I can join
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: all others are ignored because I can't join them and the message never shows
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I've never been announced a gq that I can't join
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: only problem with it is the god damn sound file is too loud and scares the crap out of me when it goes off
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: but otherwise it's 100%
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: And it's sent to script right? And do you have regex checked?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: so if you wanted to just basic trigger it, set your pattern to:   ^Global Quest: See 'Help Global Quests', or, type 'Gquest Join *' to take part.$
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: you can use regexp for it too, but it's just needless complexity
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're not copying exactly what Citlalin has - you have to change the (%d) to (\d+) and check regex.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: dont use regexp for that, there is no point
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: you're not storing anything, the message only shows for gq's you can actually enter, set the send to script thing, and just plug in that play sound function and bam, working
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Actually, don't even need (). Just \d+. And if you're not checking regex and using Citlalin's example, you don't need ^ and $.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: regexp is ridiculously powerful in filtering junk/bad/irrelevant data, but you should only bother with that functionality if you've got data to filter.  In the case of that gq eligibility message, we have none of that, thus regexp is inappropriate due to the complexity adding no additional functionality.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Mendaloth is agreeing with that Araceli Citlalin person again...
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: again, if you don't need some functionality that only regexp can provide, don't set it.  K.I.S.S.  Less headache for you.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: k time to test
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Thanks all!
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Bringing regexp into that is like using an antiaircraft gun to shoot at a tin can in the back yard.  You'll hit the can all right, but you'll be firing expensive 35mm shells and scaring the piss out of the neighbors to do it.  Just get a .22 for that.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Sometimes its fun to use an AA gun to shoot a tin can though
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: and as an observation, the emphasis on these complex solutions is something that ought to be re-examined, because the majority of mush users are not programmers, and thus instructing them as if they were is inappropriate.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: k final dumb quesiton, where do you put the sound files?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: it's not a dumb question at all.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if you use them as sound triggers.. anywhere:)
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: it should be MUSHclient\sounds
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: or at least, that's where I put mine
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: I believe you can put them anywhere but then you need to specify the path.  If you drop them in sounds you can just put the filename and it will work.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh, I swore I looked for a sound folder, dunno how I missed it O.o
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: it's fine, if you need anything else come back and we'll get there.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Thanks again!
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: np, is it working?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah but I think I'm deaf now
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: too loud?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It's good now, just turned down the vol xD
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can adjust the volume in the playsound.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: you can adjust that in the playsound function
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: you don't need your ears no more. now. just play  the mud:)
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: aint nobody got time to listen to anythin anyway!
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: good luck on your gq's btw :)
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: nods, but we don't need to burden the user with that.  I got lambasted for 'information overload' for suggesting builder helpfiles here, but users are routinely overloaded with these overly complex solutions on tech, when in most cases, a much simpler solution will achieve the exact same result.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: mis, can somebody write me a channel anti mischan
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: any idea how to actually pick which channels go to the comm log in aardmush
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes. Right-click on the comm log, should be apparent enough.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: right click, customize channels
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: or alternatively you could turn the channel off altogether
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm for turning off channels.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: DOWN WITH SOCIALIZING!
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: yes, but seems i cant pick single ones like i have to select them all and cant remove a certain one
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ctrl+Click the ones you want.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or hit CTRL+Click on the ones you want to remove.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: type the name of the channel by itself will toggle it on or off
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's not the issue, but A for effort, Mique.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: "echo"
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tahnks couldnt get ftalk to work in it unless i selected all
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: yeah realied htat arcidayne, but the A for effort is nice, thank you
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm a nice guy, occasionally.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: We all are:P
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: Only when his bot is doing the talking ;)
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: im always nice. unlike everyone else
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [Melvin]: I resemeble that.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: and frankly, even melvin has a bug up his ass every now and then ;)
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [Melvin]: Better than the stick up yours!
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "the light is not within you"
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: since "jedhi" is from yiddish or hebrew, look whether there is violence in the Kabalah
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal laughs at Xyliz mercilessly.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why is this on tech?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodkiller Tech: i forgot how to add an item to a set for bast plugin
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Good thing there's a help file for it, right?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: eqs will help you.
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i seem to have trouble using the spellup plugin from gammon, i see the help files, but pop up a window or seem to request spells?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: cant*
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Hold on, lemme finish gq and I'll help
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ok i appreciate it
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Sorry, who had a spellup question?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry, tech -h
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh hi
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: Varrion Tech: i seem to have trouble using the spellup plugin from gammon, i see the help files, but pop up a window or seem to request spells?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: yes i seem to be having issues i followed all the instructions, seems the plug in is woeking but not going to a seperate window
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: What's that one called? I think most people (myself included) use Bast_spellup
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: aardwolf spellups
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Let me look that one up, but I think bast is still much easier to use
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i found it from gammon forum, thought bast stayed in the main window
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8780
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: There's a bast miniwindow spellup as well
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: is that one easy to find or included in bast master file?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It's part of the bast plugins, you can just get them all, but use the one
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: This aardwolf one seems like it stopped working in 2009
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ahh i see the bast ones , is it safe to remove all of what i installed from that foeum or can i leave it as, earlier i crashed the whole client
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: The files won't do anything if you just disable em
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: This is the dl I used
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/bastmush/bastmush.zip
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ah ok ill give it a try
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Put the actual bast folder inside the plugins, not just the xml
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i have a bast folder with plugins i put in dunno if its updated will this cause problems if i overwrite?
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just delete the old folder, and replace with the 2013 one, I think that's the most updates
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: ill giver her a whirl
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Bast is like 2 clicks and working, love it because I'm lazy :p
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Let me know when you have it installed
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: i have it installed now just figuring out how to get the spells added
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: k do..
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: The easiest way to do it
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: giving me a timer fuction "spell_display_timer not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is to do 'bsp sadd #spell'
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: then 'bsp senable #spell'
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: You can do 'bsp slist' to see your spellup
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: now it seems i lost my mini window cant seem to find a option to bring it back
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Might be pushed behind other windows
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: You can also just disable and reanble it, I think that resest the position
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: tried it all huh odd
T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varrion Tech: any way to only show spellup in the bast mini window instead of it scrolling in the main?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: well, getting the eys in petstore and the balls in ST:TNG were part of a greater thing but they were also needed to do things not part of the goal or AQ.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Immformed Anaristos Tech: how did that ended up on this channel is a mystery.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: that IS a mystery
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: does a game run faster in fullscreen or windowed generally? (wooden laptop question)
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aoki Tech: are there any updates to the mudlet GUI since 2010?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: i've had an annoying problem with steam and spotify for quite a while now, a few years... and it's persisted through several upgraded video drivers, at least two video cards, and i think even a complete windows 7 reinstallation. problem is i'm not even sure how to describe the problem in a way that a search engine can give me meaningful results. basically, if i have spotify or steam as the window i'm currently working in, then i click or alt-tab to another window, part of the steam or spotify window 'shears' off but then a large chunk of it seems to artificially stay on top and obscures parts of my other windows. i suspect steam and spotify use similar GUI coding and it has something to do with that. if someone could point me in the right direction with what exactly this problem is called so i can search for it better, that'd be much appreciated, and any direct info on fixes would be nice too. thanks all!
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: the problem is windows
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: ... ah. yes, i can definitely see that
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: if your windows install is old, it will inexplicably spring leaks like crappy plumbing. I'm not sure about your case specifically but it happened to me too after I'd been using windows for a couple of years
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: by it I mean random things like that, not specifically steam or spotify
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: that's the weird thing though, even after a complete, clean reinstallation of windows 7 a couple years ago, the problem was instantly still right there
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: reinstalled windows, reinstalled steam and spotify along with it
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: still happened
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jenifer Tech: unfortunately i'm not sure i -can- fix it in that case, but was hoping maybe someone with more knowhow than me could shed a little light
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I think the term you're looking for is "graphical artifact" btw
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jenifer will try that, thanks!
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: sigh
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: subscribed to mobile broadband. been getting .3 mbs services for week. walk outside, tmf's pointed the antenna in wrong direction, switched the direction now 6 mbs.  
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: le sigh
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: l
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saorin Tech: hi 
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Anyone know the function to show the list of rgb named colors that MUSH supports?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Any html named color.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: I found this: Debug("colors256")
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: My themed tracker lists a color palette. Heh.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: but it's not the named colros
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: oh, Debug("colours")
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Nycta, my heroine. Debug("colours") is what I was looking for. Thanks :)
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: without the 256 part
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: woah this is cool
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well then.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Anyone know why when I reloaded mushclient, it would say S&D Mapper Extender is not an .xml file, and is refusing to load it?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Even though it was loaded before?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Did you edit it at all?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: open it in notepad++ to look for any errors
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Then properly save it as xml again
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Didn't touch it.  I was using it fine, logged off, closed mushclient, restarted, and poof.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: I wouldn't know an error if I saw one, but I did nothing to it.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Well, it's easy to see
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Even if you don't know any programming
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Notepad++ will highlight it in big red
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Will take a look then
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PIKACHU Mokg Tech: just redownload it and reinstall
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: If you find a red hightlighted area, just copy it to me and I'll fix it
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Or that, unless you can't xD
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Plugins can get editd without you doing it also
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: Going to reinstall, since when I open it in notepad++, it's all a bunch of [NULL]s.  That's a sure sign of something wrong!
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh, you might need the xml plugin for notepad to see it xD
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: But yeah, easier to just resinstall in most cases
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylia Tech: My other xml files look fine in notepad++
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: With S&D I can do 'xcp 1' or click the window to run there for CPs, but I can't do that for GQs, is that normal?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because GQs are not CPs.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Can you get portals to work with runto?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: no, but you can get this to work with xrt
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: anyway to have invmon break when you get all from a container?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: not
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone have any idea why my mapper bouncerecall is messed up?  It is using recall, then portal/speedwalk, then recall again.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it actually does recall (to clan hall) then mapper uses my clan portal to goto the same room, then does the speedwalk to the destination, then another recall
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: sounds like you got a a bad portal mapper or cexit
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i have bouncerecall set up, and room destinations for portals are correct
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you tried closing/re-opening?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: me too and mine doesnt do that
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably unrelated: is your bounceportal set to a recallable room?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah bounceportal is set up as academy portal
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: what is your bouncerecall mapper command?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: recall
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: have you added any new scripts recently?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sure, but they are all my own and nothing that would cause mapper to send these dirs
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it sounds like everything is right except the recalls. nothing that'd make you recall?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no nothing
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it didnt do it before i set up bouncerecall
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: every time bouncerecall is used it does the same thing
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: and it happens everywhere you  go or just that one place?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: every no-portal room
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you're using S&D or something, try it with just mapper goto, then trace the steps manually looking at cexits.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: did you set an alias for recall on accident?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: could be a rogue alias somewhere getting in the way
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no recall alias
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: what happens when you type recall?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i end up at clan recall, 1 single recall command echoed
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: when you set your recall were you clanned?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: if you "mapper where" the destination that's doing the funky stuff, does it have recall at the end of the string?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: mapper goto 32458 does same thing...
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: delete and reset your recall portal
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Masaki is the king of guess-and-check.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: hmm, mapper where does not show the last recall
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but mapper goto does
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: weird.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that would imply that something is adding an extra recall after the mapper goto string fires
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: try standing one room and use go command to see if it still happens
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: indeed raded, just not sure why or how
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so weird.  i deleted my clan portal and it does the same thing with academy portal
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: is it any mapper goto that uses bouncerecall?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what happens if you change your recall portal?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah thats the issue, its a no-portal room and its using my bouncerecall portal which is 'recall'
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Eh, if you have clan portal that leads to crecall, why not get rid of "recall" in the first place?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: for noport recallable rooms
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oh, duh. Heh, that's what I use home for, though.
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am homeless :P
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: change it to c word and see if it tries to c word or to recall
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I don't think the last recall was echoing
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but that's a good idea, word of recall or even just change it to all caps or something if the last recall IS echoing
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so changing bouncrecall to cast word does not do the 2nd recall
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but since its a no-magic room it doesnt work :P
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: sounds weird but try all caps on RECALL
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: or "recal" or just something a little different
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh that worked - recall in caps
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: wtf??
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded is the king of ghetto fixes
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably an alias somewhere that's case sensitive
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i gotta send you a 40oz
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk enthusiastically high-fives Bishoujo Raded!
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i disabled "my" plugin with all my aliases scripts etc, and it still did it so that is very strange
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh i found the issue...  i had an alias to do something on recall, and it was set to keep_evaluating="y" and also Send("recall")... just removed the Send("recall")
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: ahhh
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: surprised it didnt show up when just submitting recall though?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: weird
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ok so apparently keep_evaluating flag indicates all plugins should be able to evaluate it, not that it would be sent to mud after being evaluated
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: anyone know if aardmush has a command to make it VI friendly?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: type friend VI :)
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: (j/k) no idea Hader
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: i was asking for a newbie :P
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: hulloo
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: heelo
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: Bonjour
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: got a sec?  I cant find my status bar in the mushclient
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: have you moved all the windows and looked behind them?
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: i think i hit a key combo in the frenzy of combat that made it disappear
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: oops, there it was..behind something
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Tadaa!
T3/r7/2016-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krometheus Tech: much obliged
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helps you Level Tech: does anyone know how the screen readers work for the VI maps ?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: anyone here use Tasker ? 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Hey... Keep getting these update to windows 10 on the wife's computer...
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: You think I should do it? Opinions?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I did on one computer, not doing it on this one
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: didn't turn out too good?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how much does she like change? how new is the computer?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: she barely uses it for anything, despises change half the time, loves it the other... (bipolar) :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say don't do it if it's a W7 computer and that's what she's used to...flip a coin for a W8 computer
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: its seem slightly better then 8.1 but if you dont activate net  metering it downloads when ever and what ever it pleases
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: think it's windows 8.1... how much different is it?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: took a minute to get used to 8.1.... I use linux myself, hate windows personally, but it is a necessary evil :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: that it is
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: why is it necessary?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: depends on your work. really
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: there's just an occassion every now and then you got to run windows :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not here, me or my wife
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: i cant find a good adobe setup for linux
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I *don't* that'z why I use linux, but other people...
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: windows should be illegal
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: adobe what?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: gimp rockz...
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: I find windows 10 offensively ugly
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rishkem Tech: mainly pdf utilities for me, 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gimp is no photoshop, and isn't vector
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, photoshop is raster as well
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's nice for an amateur, but it's absolutely crap next to real photoshop
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I like gimp, me personally... but I use blender I do 3d stuffz :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: photoshop is raster, illustrator isn't...I was making two statements
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: but anyways, windows is slow, ugly and useless
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: couldn't agree more heh
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I haven't used windows on any of *my* computers in ohhh a decade or so :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: my "cold boot" takes about 500 mb of ram... mariadb and drpbox included
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but for proper adobe, you can stay away from windows and go Mac, which gives you full access to unix as well
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: or Ubuntu... since it's also Linux
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: true... I have had a hackintosh haven't gotten very far with it though :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and i am not designer... so i do not care about adobe
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ubuntu is fine, but it still doesn't give you proper adobe...
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and some versions of ubuntu are ful of spyware
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: different tools for different jobs, there's no tool that's the right one for every job, it all depends on your own requirements
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: "proper adobe" -- bit of a contradiction in terms
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: yeah ya don't use a philips on a flathead :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yeah, and that is why designers use mac
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nycta Tech: I use xubuntu on my old laptop and it rocks
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris is agreeing with that Nycta person again...
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i use arch on my only laptop/computer
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I personally love gentoo, however I hate setting it up on older slow computers, but once it is set up...
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I like arch too, but whenever I type top it's all f'd up and I haven't figured out why yet... all red and weird, you got that problem?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol, no
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: it happens on every computer I installed it on too,not just the one...
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: call mulder and scully
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: no kiddin'
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: or linus just hates you
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: wouldn't surprize me none either heh
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: Besides Linux and Bach what else can you use?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris is agreeing with that Fravardin person again...
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I run Windows, MacOS, NetBSD, Solaris and Ubuntu, depending on the application
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Emeris seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: solaris? good god, does that still exist? What about IRIX?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: http://i.imgur.com/EF1m3Sh.png
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: this is how my desktop looks like
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: is MacOS as optimised as IOS?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: in PC terms
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, MacOS is a full-blown OS rather than an embedded system, so no
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as far as Solaris, yes, it's still exists, is still being developed and is still in pretty widespread commercial use...Sparc servers are very good for high-end stuff
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although what I run now is an older Sunfire 1U box in an enclosure in a spare bedroom of my house
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: can you append a mob name to the  guardian roominator url? 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try it
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: dont know sybtax...it just ends with index.php
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if supported, the syntax would be index.php?varname=value
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: is there a way to adjust map settings as a whole rathr than per room? 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: i tried http://rooms.gaardian.com/index.php?varname="test" but i5 just wenr to pqg3 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: if you can edit a sqlite db then yeah :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: 30
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: -30
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: the "Ignore Exits mismatch" option... does that mean, if I set up a Cexit, and later walk through it manually, it will ignore the manual exit type and keep the cexit?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sort of
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what it means is that it will stop paying attention when the MUD says what the exits are
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I see. Thanks Fiendish
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it only really applies for a few rooms, where like the shown exits depend on whether a door is open or something
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yeah... is there another way to have the mapper use cexits before normal directions or instead of them? I have mapped cexits, but when I walk through the same door later, it adds that simple direction toexit... and it breaks when the door is closed
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or when you want to override the connectivity of the graph, so say you have 3 rooms A,B,C and room A connects to B which then teleports you to C immediately. But you really want it to look like A and C are connected
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cexits are always used first
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you have a concrete example of that not happening, send it to me with a copy of your mapper database
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: AHHH, Now I see how that could be beneficial :)... and the cexits first are great news... I'm trying to do maps from 5 years ago, and I probably should of wiped out my DB and started over hehe
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok, I'll watch for it from now on, thanks a ton 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: anyone else use the consider miniwindow plugin? If so does yours remove the consider info from main output? Mine isn't so it shows in output + miniwindow
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking it
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: no option menu for the window
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whose consider miniwindow is it?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: blainer, is there a better one?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: nvm figured it out actually
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh cool...what was the command to change it?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: It was because I was using nick gammons plugin that colors the consider lines as well, disabling that worked
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: the miniwindow still colors them so it works out well
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for a better one, I thought bast might have one, but it appears not...could swear I'd seen some mentioned relatively recently, maybe one of the newer "upstarts" like masaki or lunk
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: does it worth buying an all in one pc for gaming? :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for gaming? no
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all in ones are for convenience, for people who don't plan to upgrade
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: when i say gaming i mean dota, dota2, diablo3, herooes :P
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: still no
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: so better to buy a desktop i guess?or even laptop is fine
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: also no laptop. Buy a desktop
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: BUY A MAC!!!
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heheh
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Anybody vi and use the Aard Mush?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I can be! :p
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Ask anyway, maybe someone still knows the answer.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: I just updated, and now my screen reader is reading numbers after every line of text. Can someone tell me why and/or how to make it stop?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish is very interested in hearing from VI players for help with making it a better experience for them
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: I sent him a couple notes.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh cool
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you have your prompt turned off?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Maybe it's a script interfering?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my guess is either prompt or statmon
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Stat what?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Type statmon
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: See if that clears the issue.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If not, type statmon again.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll either clear the issue or double it, hehe. if it doubles it, then type it again
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: No that just made it worse. Maybe it's a mini window or some kind of stat bar?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want the game to reply "You will no longer see tagged stats after each prompt."
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, so statmon is an on/off toggle, so typing that again will take you back where you started
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next thing to try is typing prompt
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: I tried prompt too. It's neither of those.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, can you copy and paste to tech an example of what it reads off?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Can you provide an example of what it says?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Get out of my head, Abelinc.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: get head out of abelinc?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Okay it's giving random numbers after moving, casting or glancing.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Not when telling or noting.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Copy the line, if you can, that is giving random numbers.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: IUnfortunaely I can't. I don't have an output window.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: What client is good for screen readers until I can get this sorted out?
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be able to just open up your old MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and run that instance
T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Is there a way to update into the folder I had before with theplugins that I had saved?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know how to turn off the combat damagetype info at the end of Bast's plugin
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: how do you compare two files in sublime? I can't remember
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Is there a log somewhere for mush that contains more detailed errors for plugins? 
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can try the wiki of the plugin builder
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually mush shows quite detailed error message
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: It is one of my plugins, I diffed the files and a few print statements are different between versions. One works the other doesn't for some reason
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but that does not mean that plugin has errors, it can just work that by design :P
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am trying to get a better(closer) look at what is going on when it goes to run, some parts work fine but others don't they are not throwing errors though. The strange part being that an older version with no differences expect a few print statements works fine
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try debugging plugin using Note("")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I am :(
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: is there any plugins that export equipment to excel? either worn or inv
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: you can just use invdata ansi and then just copy/paste into excel
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: and then put it to columns by comma
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast's eqdb puts all of your equipment into database with full details
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: I have been curious what people use that plugin for?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: mendaloth has an exporter to csv
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: i use eqdb for equipment sets
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: thanks I will try those
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: finger mendaloth
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, menda's looks like exactly what you want...it's good for human consumption of the data
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's stays in MUSHclient, letting you do things like get/put based on equipment data, etc.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: basts also makes the eq and inventory command look little nicer with more options
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use a sqlite browser to access the data (and export to ecxel) but you'd have to "denormalize", it's probably not a single table
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: its not a single table
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, proper databases won't be...there's lots of one-to-many relationships with data
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: thanks all
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: Mendaloth's exporter worked great guys, thanks again
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hann nods at Lews.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: is there a way to halt a trigger for few seconds?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You mean disable it from firing at all, or just delay execution of the trigger body?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're wanting to delay the action a few seconds, anyway.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i want to disable for 5 seconds.  not delay.  
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just make a timer to enable it after 5
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So it fires, you want to disable for 5 seconds, and then enable again?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set a timer to EnableTrigger, then DisableTrigger
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes arci
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OR, set a variable for the system time, and have an IF in the trigger to NOOP
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you look at my potionquaffer plugin, I do the latter
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: On that trigger, add this: EnableTrigger('triggername', false), then DoAfterSpecial(5, "EnableTrigger('triggername', true)", 12)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have an idle timer that works the same way, it's not bad
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that it will only fire once every 3 secs
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok  cool.  thanks.  and biker i would like to see your portion quaffer too.  is it under your finger?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc's finger
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Negader :)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although now that you mention it, might as well put it in mine too ;-)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I set a mapper portal to Imperial nation which works, then make a cexit running from there to darklight, but when I try to xrt darklight, or cp a mob there, it still says not within 300 rooms
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Do I have to do something else?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why make a cexit to darklight?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: No darklight portal yet T.T
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delete that cexit and try again
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you need to xset mark darklight?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You don't need a cexit to Darklight.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but the mapper knows where imperial and darklight are
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Cexit aside, I think it would work without it
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It will.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I tried from imperial portal
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It wouldn't xrt to darklight
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your cexit probably didn't get set right because of the timing
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It did, I put a wait
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Like my Sendhia portal I use for all my Vidblain exploring
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ignore xrt, that's not part of the mapper...try mapper goto 19643
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just used the dark crystal to get to imperial nation, then did xrt darklight. It works fine.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: lemme try again
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms:
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and definitely get rid of that cexit...those are normal walks, no cexit or special commandsd necessary
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: A Dark Street (The DarkLight) (19656)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Have you explored vidblain?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I've been to both a bunch, just wanted to make a faster way
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try mapper goto 33840
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Did you enter the portal to Imperial Nation?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: And xrt imperial uses your portal?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: xset vidblain - will make xrt work with vidblain areas
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Imp portalworks fine
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is it suppose to be running to 'A Dark Street' ?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: That's why I think
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: A Dark Street is past the maze, it's tryig to make me run there
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Rather than just darklight
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: So walk to darklight, xset mark
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why I said not to xrt...xrt is not part of the mapper at all
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you try the mapper goto biker gave you?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to test the mapper, use the mapper commands...THEN work on xrt
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: k lemme try that
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 19643 is the start of darklight, 33840 is the vidblain room next to it
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Yeah the goto works
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now xset mark that
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: unless you manually set cexits past the maze it wont know there is path past it
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Darklight as in the galaxy, or one down
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The tower of light
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should xset mark in among the stars
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Gotcha ty!
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok going back to the question i had earlier.  i see how i can use os.time() to make a trigger/alias pause.  but i still don't get how or WHERE to add the following:  add this: EnableTrigger('triggername', false), then DoAfterSpecial(5, "EnableTrigger('triggername', true)", 12)  I've copied and pasted a very simple trigger at pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/pkvQzF0a  Can I ask where to add the EnableTrigger and so forth to the example please?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Why not enable a timer?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, it's an either/or thing...if you use the doafterspecial, you don't need to use os.time()
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're two ways to handle the same problem
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i see that.  regarding os.time(), it seems i need to use an alias. not as a trigger.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you are attempting to enable or disable a trigger, when the clock reaches a given time?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? you can use it as a trigger
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using os.time, rather than enable/disable, you change what the trigger does to a noop
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the trigger will fire but not do anything
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: os.time() function needs to be kept running.. no?  how do i keep lastFired os.time from turning to nil, when i re-fire the trigger?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: os.time() returns the current time, it's not a timer
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when trigger fires, you set lastfired to os.time
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: i need to compare the os.time to the last fired.  which turns to 0, when i refire the trigger. no?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when trigger fires next, if os.time - lastfired is greater or less than the time interval you want, you choose what to do
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: lastFired.  how do i keep that variable .. to recall when i refire the trigger then?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Negader :(
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what my autoquaff does is if (os.time () - autoquaff_lastfired) > 3 then do something else do nothing
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The trick is you update lastfired only when you have it do something, not every time the trigger matches.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and only if we do something do we re-set lastfired
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Birdbrain Metria, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: regards autoquaff, does it run constantly?  or does it get triggered to run it?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gets checked when MUSH received GMCP char module updates
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i would have thought it would pay more attention to current hp than to time.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You have to build in time to let it actually quaff the potion..
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it pays attention to both...but you get updates more often than you can quaff...without the timer, you'd spam out
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like when it was prompt-based...you get a prompt for combat round, for "get potion bag", for "quaff potion", etc.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd stack a quaff for each of those prompts otherwise
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: ok.  i see.  the trigger will hit, but the action is paused?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use a trigger on You quaff/You eat/You dont have any of those, to re-set the ok-to-quaff flag
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: have one trigger keep the value for your current hp updated, and have another trigger set to go off once per combat round, check the stored value, and decide what to do.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the checks it does in order are did I fire in the last 3 seconds...am I enabled...am I fighting...is my HP where I need to quaff...how many times have I quaffed recently
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no trigger on combat rounds...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm, sounds pretty complex.  theres a reason i use a simple potion counter and a macro button :)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can trigger on a blank line, or on particular melee hits, but there is no reliable trigger on a combat round
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: should just use plugin broadcast from gmcp handler
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do endy
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the point
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: zmud can do one on current time, or set a countdown timer - i would imagine mush can do something similar.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what we're talking about, mannec
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you might not get perfect control over when during the round it fires, but that shouldnt be a huge issue, i would think.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a combat round trigger, though
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not actually suggesting anything...it is already using a timer to determine combat rounds
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: so its done then.  great job?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was done years before you came to the table...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ok, then ... why was this huge discussion sitting here, waiting for my clearly wonderful input?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was being explained to someone who asked how to do it, using my plugin as an example, a plugin which was written 6 years ago
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmm, i see.  another budding coder who wants to do things the hard way, rather than install a pre-existing plugin.  i can dig it.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think he's doing quaffer, just wanted to know how to make a trigger not fire more than once  every x seconds
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: something else.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: ah. does it have some input to trigger on, or just a bare timer?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: just looking for something to stop the trigger for few seconds.  on an ez trigger such as:  http://pastebin.com/pkvQzF0a   this one would just put a white Colournote when you look, I'm looking to make it not do the action everytime i 'look', in this case.  
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why the * of aylor instead of the grand city of aylor?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In case the city becomes less grand or more awesome
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's noting grand city?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: that's beyond the scope of this discussion.  it's just an example.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: have the trigger disable itself, and have another trigger reenable it if the current time (seconds) is zero, modulo 3? even spamming 'look', you wont get more than 2 in a pile.  should be good enough for government work.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's disabling itself, then you don't need another trigger, can use doafterspecial
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: could have an aliased 'look' do the time check, even.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: mmmk.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (which we've already covered...)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: yes, do afterspecial.... where do you insert that?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd have the doafterspecial as the first thing in the trigger's script
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so doafterspecial in 5 seconds calling enabletrigger on the trigger being used...then the trigger performs its colournote, then it uses enabletrigger to disable itself
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the doafterspecial will re-enable the trigger when the time is up
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: self-modifying programming ftw.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: do you put that after <send>?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the lua example of doafterspecial in the docs is literally this very thing
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: huh - a perfectly executed usage of 'literally'.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: its been, figuratively, forever since ive seen it :p
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Biker is oldschool, when words meant what they meant
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: anyone know why a ColourNote would bleed to the following output line and cause a trigger not to catch that line?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the line is malformed?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does the following trigger match color?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no color match
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: does the note output have a newline at the end?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: shouldn't be a color issue then
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but I guess if the note "bleeds" the following message gets sent as a note, which won't allow triggers to fire
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: colournote always sends newline right?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: colourtell doesnt
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thats how it seems yajan, the line will not catch when it happens
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is it necessary to send it as a colournote?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you're sending the prior line yourself right?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: there's a lot you can do with the built in colors and sending regular echos and what-not
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its actually a coincidence... a message from a plugin that comes in before a line should trigger
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so not your script
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I personally really don't like notes because you can't trigger off of them
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure why plugins use them
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: can't easily gag them either
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but back to the issue... that's hard to say.. have you tried to take a peek at the plugin's .xml file to find the offending script?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry was on gq :P
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: only a valid excuse if you win
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's ok I'm used to talking to myself
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the plugin is mine, and it sends a colournote.  Another plugin is trying to trigger off a line (an echo actually) but it doesnt catch when the colournote comes in previously
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: used to think I was the one who was crazy
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if it's your plugin, may I suggest you change the colour note to an echo of a similar color?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if the note manages to bleed over it'll wreck any triggers following
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dont want an echo though, that would require being sent to mud and back
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not if you SendNoEcho an echo
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just dont get why a note is bleeding into an echo
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that still sends echo to mud
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: meaning, i have to receive it after mud sends it to me
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so you definitely don't want to accidentally trigger off of the note?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: im not sure you read my problem correctly..
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am trying to trigger off of a mud line, and a colournote is stopping that from happening
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I understand your problem, just not sure why it's a big deal that it "sends to the mud"
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: sending unnecessary traffic over the network is sloppy.  may also allow for unintended side effects.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well for example, if in battle i dont want to wait for queued commands before i see the note
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: a note just echos in your client, sure.. but what's so advantageous about that.. to the point where you're willing to accept these kind of side effects that are hard to stop
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: so what happens if in battle, your note "bleeds" and your in battle triggers don't go off?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: have you tried simulate?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes a colournote is bleeding, and trigger doesnt go off for line it bleeds into
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well i dont need to simulate..  the colournote is telling me i'm out of mana potions...  and the line im trying to trigger off is an echo sent to the mud to come back to me
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i cant help but think there should be a way to avoid the need for a mud-side echo to run your trigger.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: from the Muschlient ColourNote Documentation: A new line will automatically be started by output from the MUD, or a command that you type being echoed to the output window. You can send a new line yourself by sending vbCRLF (in Visual Basic) or n in Jscript or Perlscript.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: why are you echoing something and triggering off it instead of echoing something and doing whatever your trigger is supposed to do there?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am using the echo because i check eqdata and compare to my eq for the next level.  the echo is so i know when done comparing and can start changing
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is trigger isn't an issue, kind of not pertinent to his problem
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: he just needs the colournote to do it's thing and then go away
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what do you ean cyrni?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: how do you do an action off of an echo without a trigger to catch it?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm. can you add a newline to the beginning of the echod text?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: he'd have to do that for all his triggers though
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: Just mean if you have a script that's sending an echo, why not just do whatever action you're trying to do right there instead of making another trigger
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i actually tried putting a blank echo in before current echo but havent had it happen since that.  was trying to get some info on the issue
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like i said, the echo lets the script know its ready to continue
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what's your colournote text btw..?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah the echo isnt really required, it just tells me it's done after changing equipment out...  but the real issue is the colournote mucking up trigger text
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: can you paste the colournote?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech:   You don't have any more mana potions!
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you colour note that?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how do you colour note two different colors?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ColourNote("color", "", "text 1", "color2", "", "text 2") etc
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ColourTell
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: oh wait you can do that?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm thinking something might get wacky with how this works
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not sure though
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: even if it was just color bleed, it shouldnt stop my trigger
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if it doesn't send a new line after the second text
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: seems to be a bigger issue
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: try adding a newline inside text2
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i see my echo come back on next line (in yellow though)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ColourTell is same as note but no \n at the end, so I do multiple tells followed by a final note
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: at the end
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jo Jo Jo Joelz Tech: hmm, my mapper seems to be broken. when i enter an area it stays on the continent view
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: and I never have that problem
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe i will try to end colournote with "", "", ""
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how will that fix it?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if it's broken because of a hanging currently line, it'll do the same there
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i dunno, why does it happen? :P
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why are you tring to end colournote with "", "", ""?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have a feeling you need to append a new line at the end of text2 to fix it
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Are you wanting a second new line?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: colournote by design is a newline
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the echo my trigger misses is on the next line
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, but it might be a bug when you send two things
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: think about how that has to be coded
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Never had a problem with it.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do you do what he does?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And more.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: send a note with two parameters in two different colors?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: does the trigger fire if you take the output and send it via test trigger?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You haven't seen my q stats themed tracker, have you...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes the trigger works flawlessly when a colournote isnt right before
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech:   You don't have any more mana potions!
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: {aoe_done}
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aoe_done is telling my script it checked my spells aoe to update
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: I mean take the colournote=included output and send it as if was mud output using test trigger
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I typically use echo on such things.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: aoe_done is an echo
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it comes in yellow due to the colornote
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Odd.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: How exactly is your ColourNote sent? (Sorry, coming in late in the convo)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: of course it always happens during battle too i think, but good luck leveling outside of battle
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the colournote is sent by another plugin notifying me i'm out of mana potions, and i leveled up which fired my spells updater
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I mean what is your ColourNote line...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its one of those 5% of the time issues
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: send him the line
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ColourNote("yellow", "", "  You don't have any more ", "cyan", "", name, "yellow", "", " potions!")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: lol, you didn't send that before
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What version of Mushclient are you using?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i sent you the line, and i told you how i did it :P
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: 4.96
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ColourNote("yellow", "", "  You don't have any more ", "cyan", "", "mana", "yellow", "", " potions!") Send("echo Testing") -- didn't color the Testing for me.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the echo from the other plugin is:  SendNoEcho("echo {aoe_done}")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yeah, no miscoloring on my end.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just sent: ColourNote("yellow", "", "  You don't have any more ", "cyan", "", "mana", "yellow", "", " potions!") SendNoEcho("echo {aoe_done}")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah no doubt i'd probably have same result doing it that way
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: seems the 2 plugins are firing same time/closer than the echo coming back
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Change the priority on one of them?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Maybe I'm missing something. Why are you building a trigger to run a function? Just call the plugin function you want.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the trigger tells my script to continue.  it checks my skills, spells area, spells combat to update a miniwindow
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i use that echo to switch which group is running
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I used similar triggers when I was running ranking scripts.]
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: echo {Rank16 done!} :p
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its a great way to know when the mud is caught up to what you are doing
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: like running to a room to buy stuff etc
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ah ok, I didn't realize you were waiting on output from the mud.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish uses similar tactics, too, with mapper running.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah 1st line is a ColourNote, 2nd is an echo
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: btw.. Nick Gammon suggests using ColourTell for changing colors in a single note
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i see this on my screen, on its own line, but trigger doesnt catch it: {aoe_done}
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: might be a reason why
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: From documentation on Note: If you want to change colours in the middle of a note, use Tell instead.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: perhaps. since morn says he uses tell without issue and ends with note
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have a feeling this appending text on the fly inside a ColourNote is not recommended
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yet it's documented as being a feature.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not saying it won't work most of the time, just probably is a little janky and prone to side effects
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: where is it documented as a feature?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: From ColourNote(): You can supply any number of arguments, however they must be in groups of three: * foreground colour * background colour * text
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah and the Lua example shows 2 sets of args
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well can and should are two very different things when it comes to development
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Lua Example: ColourNote ("red", "blue", "Hello there ", "white", "green", "everyone")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I can do lots of things in scripting that I probably shouldn't
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why provide an example that demonstrates it if you shouldn't? :p
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yajan: you may be confusing comments regarding Note() with ColourNote()...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for those who like the simpler approach?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what do I do?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: this is simpler :)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's no simpler...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Fiendish: Employ tactics like {start run} or whatever in mapper.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh you may be right Biker
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's the question? this is a lot of backscroll
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my ColourNote is bleeding into an echo and causing trigger to not catch it
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Endymion's ColourNote is bleeding over to a second trigger.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ColourNote is in another plugin, so the echo happens to come in right after it - thats only time it fails
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have to imagine that ColourNote is just a looped Note though
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Negader Tech: try adding .."\\n"  to force an enter
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ah for the echo?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: highly doubt they built on a whole new function
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you note, and the coloration flows into the next line that I assume comes from the MUD?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It comes in the form of an echo from the MUD.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and the line from the mud doesn't start with color information?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in fact i have seen it bleed on other output also but that never mucked up my trigger
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and you think that color information is causing a trigger to not fire?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's literally SendNoEcho("echo {aoe_done}")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its just SendNoEcho("echo {aoe_done}")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i know the trigger doesnt fire when it happens, it should be omitted but isnt when this issue arises
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is your trigger set to fire only on a particular color?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no just text
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is your trigger of the sort that disables/enables to only fire selectively?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: enabled="n"   match="^\{aoe_done\}$"   regexp="y"   sequence="100"   group="spells"   omit_from_output="y"   script="set_table_spells"  >  </trigger>
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: enabled=n says that I'm right
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its enabled when the 'spells area' is sent
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the function enables the trigger, sends spells area, waits for aoe_done to switch to spells combat
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the same group of triggers, removes blank lines, so i end up with a failed routine and the triggergroup stays enabled
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and when a ColourNote from a different plugin happens then something something a trigger that sometimes gets disabled on purpose doesn't work?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you narrow this down to a simple test case?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well it only happens when a colournote precedes it, but i see the output on my screen
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the first thing I would do is print a message whenever the trigger gets disabled/enabled?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: s/?/.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i can trigger the routine manually and it works no problem
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't doubt it
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but as far as I know triggers don't run on Notes
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: EnableTriggerGroup("spells", true)skills = {}spells = {}aoe = {}t = skillsSendNoEcho("skills combat")SendNoEcho("echo {skills_done}")SendNoEcho("spells area")SendNoEcho("echo {aoe_done}")SendNoEcho("spells combat")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: They do not.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the triggers catch on skills_done, aoe_done, to change tables for inserting spell/skill output
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Endymion, you said you have another trigger that removes blank lines? Could that be an issue interfering with the new line sent after ColourNote?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: Although if you want something to consistently execute on a note... you could always just add that code to wherever the note is generated.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not executing on a note
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its supposed to execute on the echo from the mud.  you cannot trigger off of a note
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the colournote just for some reason stops the trigger from catching the echo
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: Haven't read the whole thread.. just saw what fiendish wrote.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing is executed on the note...there are echoes sent to the MUD to trigger on, which is a 100% normal way to do things
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and the reason triggers don't run on Notes is probably detailed somewhere in this document: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6554
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure, sure, but why would a note interfere
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not saying they do, but I'm just wondering if maybe the trigger in these instances has been disabled by something else
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so i see 2 lines... first is the colournote, 2nd is the echo.  echo should be omitted
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its a group, not named.  group includes another with ^$ which takes out blank lines until routine is done
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: not individually named that is
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: yeah, I think if those two fire together you could get some bad side effects
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: why are you removing blank lines anyway?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing wrong with removing blank lines
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so i dont see 30 blank lines on my screen while it runs
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what happens if it removes the blank line at the end of the ColourNote?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: could the ColourNote continue to the next line?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: when running manually, i see 4 prompts then my miniwindow updates
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not removing linefeeds, it's removing blank lines...as in double-spaced...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it cannot remove a blank line from the note, newlines is sent but echo is next line
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is this stuff you can get from GMCP, or does it have to come from commands and screen scraping?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how do you know what it's removing?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: he never pasted that one
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: he could be removing both
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its my spells/skills list so no gmcp
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: line feed included
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if linefeed was removed, which makes no sense to me, then the echo wouldnt be on the next line
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, shouldn't this be very easy to test? Make a trigger that triggers on "potato". then you do \\\Send("echo potato");ColourNote("yellow","yellow","can't read this because it's yellow on yellow")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now I just tried this and it worked fine for me
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that doesn't mean it doesn't work fine for you, of course, or even that with some other circumstance that it wouldn't break
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but my money is still right now on your trigger not actually being enabled when you think it should be
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well he was saying he can see the visible bleed on to the next line
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and if it were a note it wouldn't trigger (as you said before)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bleed of the color?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is that correct Endymion?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: trigger has to be enabled, i EnableTriggerGroup - its catching the spells/skills from list but not the echo
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Endymion do you see the ColourNote Color bleed into the trigger line?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: As a side note, I don't even put enabled="n" in my triggers that I enable/disable.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, Yajan.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's not me asking
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's what he pasted earlier.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Fiendish wanted to know
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I wanted to confirm
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Either way, the answer doesn't change. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well I just wanted to make sure I didn't hear wrong before I lead Fiendish down that path
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: trying making a second identical trigger and see if it also fails?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: in case something odd is happending with enable/disable
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: [14 Feb 16:34:07] Endymion Tech:   You don't have any more mana potions! [14 Feb 16:34:07] Endymion Tech: {aoe_done}
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its enabled/disabled by using Group
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: the rest in the group are not disabled after enabled
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so i see that as an impossibility
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also i cannot make it happen when sending colournotes/tell on my prompt - it always catches potato
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: err echo* not tell
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, thing is, I'm imagining the trigger works a majority of the time, except in that special case anyway.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: did you try switching to colourtell?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no i put in a blank echo before actual echo first
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and havent leveled since then
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And it's hard for him to test it regularly, I imagine, because it requires certain circumstances.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah it only happens when that damn colournote comes in right before
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: and it makes no sense, colournote should reset color after its done but its not in this case
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well thanks for your time everyone.  i will try the echo and then tell work arounds...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know how to escape a " ' " (single-quote) inside of a string when using SetVariable and lua?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't need to be escaped, use double-quotes around the entire thing
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you need to? or are you using single quotes for SetVariabled('', '') ?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: try it :P
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no error, just doesn't create the variable
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: doing something like SetVariable("Sen'narre" "Area I want to save")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: works for me
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: can you paste what you sent?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh variable name, i didnt do that
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, don't use ' in the variable's name, only in its value
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan sighs.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: documentation doesn't say it's illegal (though I know it's usually a problem to do so)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: setvariable states only letters, numbers, underscores in name
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what?! I should read closer
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ugh, gonna have to find a workaround then
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: Names of triggers, aliases, timers and variables must follow these rules:  a. Start with a letter (A-Z)    b. Be followed by letters (A-Z), numbers (0-9) or the underscore character (_)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I didn't see it say that for variables..
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh yeah, there it is
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, go to game -> configure -> variables and try to put in a ', it says must start with a letter, and consist of letters, nyumbers and underscore
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: why use the proper name for it? the area name from gmcp is sennarre
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if using areas output just do a gsub
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well the problem is that I want to match on it later and it'll want to do the lookup using the character
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you will just have to sanitize both the input and lookup
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, just had to search the boards to see who wrote it
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: is it possible to mud-echo a newline?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: try just the echo command.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah that works, was wondering if newline was possible though
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: well, it definitely sends one that way.  you can tell because your screen scrolls.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: just hit enter?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You can use Simulate("\n")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ah yes simulate works nicely
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: otherwise, my onbroadcast trigger/note bleeds to next combat line
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: well, Simulate("\n") has fixed my bleeding/trigger fail issue
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it was 100% during testing with Note or ColourNote both bleeding into next line...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, good. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: That has to save a lot of tissues
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: adding a blank echo just caused another note so it wouldnt work heh
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: guess im gonna make a new Note function to always add in a Simulate.  No more bleeding then...
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: maybe i'll call it ColorNote lol
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: you should report this experience to the mush devs - maybe its fixable.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: since you brought it up, i will do that
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: meh maybe i wont post MUSH issue.  made my post, tried to edit and couldnt so i deleted it.  now i guess i cannot post.  no idea for how long.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: cannot update post due to anti-spam measures
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: Can I ask questions about the client here?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure can
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: yep
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: How can I set a variable in an alias?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SetVariable("varname","value")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for value, you can use %1 if passing it in
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Just make sure you Send to Script.
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: no special escape or anything?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so alias of "sethold *"...action of SetVariable("myhold","%1")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can "sethold foo", which will set the variable "myhold" to the value "foo"
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (with the aforementioned send to script)
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: I pity the variable that is set to foo
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: hmmm everything i type into the box in the alias gui gets sent raw
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: as oputput
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look below the big bog
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What do you have in the "Send to" dropdown box
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: box*
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's where you change "World" to "Script"
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: oh...werp
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: err derp
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and to USE that alias, you can have an alias "wearhold" which has the action "wear %myhold"...this CAN be set to send to world, but you need to check the checkbox for expand variables
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: also the 'expand variables' option might need to be clicked, sorry bargeing in on discussion, may have already went over that
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: =D
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't have to be clicked for setting the variable
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just for using it
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ha|v|nG Fibo oos and ahhs
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: some of us set simple aliases :D
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: so send to script...do i need a script to send it to? or is that just a way of getting to variables etc?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: no don't need one
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SetVariable is a script command
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything which is using MUSHclient/Lua functions needs to be sent to script...you use send to execute when you want an alias/trigger to call another alias...and send to world to have the output get sent to Aard with just variable expansion
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syka's Phy Tech: yeah what he said *peer*
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: so if i was using world.Send() and I wanted to append a variable to some "text " how would i access that variable?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: GetVariable("variableName") I think?
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yup
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Send("echo My hold variable is currently " .. GetVariable("myhold"))
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the .. means concatenate
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: I found also Send("text ariable") works
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: errr.. Send("text (at)variable")
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: thanks for your help
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Double up the @ symbol to use it in a channel
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although if you're sending like that, might as well just leave the drop-down as send to world and not use the Send function
T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greyl Tech: oh? wierd i thought i had tried that
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: if I ommit a line from log and output will I still be able to trigger off it? for example, omit 'you feel thirsty' from log and output, but still have it trigger drink...?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: asking before testing
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: anyone know how'd I'd go about buying a pc with the cleanest os possible? windows or mac, but I want one that is 'clean' meaning I don't want all that bundled stuff they add onto it, know what I mean?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Buy a blank PC and get Windows 7 Pro OEM and install it.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: 7? Why noy 10?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or just build your own and install the OS.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Arnica: Cheaper. Install Win 7 Pro and upgrade for Free to Windows 10.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oak Tender Arnica Tech: OIC
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: the app i use on my ipad spits out stats like and spell aff off after every line of text, any idea how to disable this?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: that's great, I didn't think it was possible in this day an age
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look around on NewEgg, Nextwarehouse, tigerdirect and so on.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Plus, you might get a better PC if you search around.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: questions on Databases: if i have a table with 2 columns, Column A and Column B and do a SELECT Column A FROM (SELECT Column A,Column B from Table) T is the performance the same as SELECT Column A from Table?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: I upgraded the Aardwolf client. Is there any way to get all of my mapper info like portals and cexits from the last version I used?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: pretty sure you can replace the db file with one you backed up.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: So just copy and paste?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: close mushclient. copy over your Aardwolf.db file
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: replace the new one with it
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Music Man MetroGnome thanks The Jerk Fiendish heartily.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient has to be closed while you do this
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: MetroGnome: glad that it was just the statsmon plugin, by the way and not something more insidious.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Give me a music question any day. But scripting, plugins, or anything beyond opening a client, and I'm like a five-year-old trying to do college work.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you a musician or musicologist, by chance?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: I'm more of a musician, but I took my share of music history classes in college.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: I could probably lecture if I needed to, but I couldn't teach someone well-educated anything new.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Didn't someone openly put their mapper online for free download a while back? I think it was around 90 percent explored with cexits and portals.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, name started with X, but I don't think he has it up anymore.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Well blah.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I'm trying to remember the name, though.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By the way, I don't think portals were included. It'd be stupid anyway, because what portals you have may not be what portals he has.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: True, but if it uses keywords, that may clue me in on what portals I'm lacking.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mine are in mapper by id not name
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: that's only necessary if you mix your portals with other things in a bag
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Xyrico.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Oh. Well I haven't seen him since early 2014.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He was on 22 days ago.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: - h10
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If he still has his mapper information, it's probably in his desc.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Is there a command to see someone's desc if they're offline?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Well crap
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music Man MetroGnome Tech: Guess I'll have to suck it up and explore like a non-lazy person.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Best way to do it.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it goes fairly quick
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: you could put a carrot in front of abelinc and just follow him
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: abe is vegan?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: he's everything you want him to be
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: but wait... there's more!
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what I found slow was exploring the open continents. I also died that way running into an area and meeting a mob with a sour attitude
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is it possible to resize the S&D window?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: By altering the code, yes.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: Can somebody advice a normal SMB client for android,without rooting ? I got sick with Samba.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: I got quite annoyed with old Samba-server.This thing only useful for Unix systems,and it makes me pissed...
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you think samba is a pain, you should try playing with ldap sometime
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: And which nifty program for android with ldap you advice ?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: Don't say it is not supported by ARM linux system...:(
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: LDAP is not IT ! ... oh well,forget it...
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: Oh,wow,a hellish mice spawners at line:574 "spawn_hellmices(MAX_MOBS,50,MFLAG_RUNAWAY)
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: What is maximum lenght of player name here ?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: 12 chars
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: 12
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: not much...
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: The name Twelvechars is available for use.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 12 chars is more than ample for most people, to be honest. I'm just sad I can't use my oringal MUD names.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avram Tech: 12 letpos ^ 28 letters
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i figure technology peaked at frozen pizza.  its been downhill from there.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I know a guy like that at work
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: miss*
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: Hey all, I have managed to install and copied everything I needed for my new mushclient
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: I have an issue - how do i transfer all the scripts esp S&D and it's DB
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: why a new mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: the one i was using was 5 years old
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: having issues with loading new scripts and all
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: should be a db file somewhere...
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: I don't use S&D so I'm not familiar with it... wrote my own.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: s&d utilizes the mapper which stores info in aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: there ya go
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: There's a guide for upgrading a mushclient installation on the aardwolf download page, I think
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: your scripts loaded are saved in the aardwolf.mcl file (or whatever world name is)
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: Nods, but it doesnt starte how to
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: I have WW S&D installed. xrt isnt working, anyone has any idea?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Define 'isn't working'
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: finger nokfah for an update
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: Alias function "xrun_to" not found or had a previous error
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, original S&D took the liberty of "borrowing" the use of columns in the mapper database, so when mapper database's schema changed to no longer have that column, S&D broke
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: downloaded the new files from Nokfah - so i just remove the old one and install the new ones?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: will it affect the database that i alrd had?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You should read the README that Nokfah has up there
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nokfah changed it to store the values in MUSH variables to make it not rely on anything particular in the db
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it won't impact the database
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mahasamatman Tech: what are the new files by nokfah?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any "xset mark"s that you have won't be used, but nokfah ships with his mark settings in the state file, to give you a good baseline
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: -g 20
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rune of Ixultar Tech: (bah)
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: try h :)
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: -g h
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so it turns out my trigger matching after ColourNote issue should be fixed in MUSH 4.99
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh nice
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it is documented in the release notes:  A side-effect of such status conversion is that the next (or current) line would skip trigger-matching.
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, what version started having that issue?
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that's great news =)
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: doesn't say exactly, but i assume its a long standing issue
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: first note on this page:  http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/showrelnote.php?version=4.99&productid=0
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: now ima have to update MUSH and diddle nokfah
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not quite sure how we lept from A to B, but whatever gets you off ;-)
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Can you change the name of the mob S&D hunts? It's trying to hunt '1. pala Jupi', which doesn't exist, it's just 'hunt pala'
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do your own "ht <something>"
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "ht"  being "hunt trick"
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ak will use what what last ht'ed
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Does that update S&D? I can find it myself simple, but I want to fix the S&D search 
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ht is a S&D command
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: That works if I type, but when I use S&D, it still does 'hunt pala jupi'
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: after it does the wrong one, you type the right one
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you cannot fix s&d unless you re-write it and somehow make it smarter than using first 4 letters of the 2 word names
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: S&D doesn't have any knowledge of MOBs, rooms, areas, or anything else...it is merely a collection of shortcuts, autohunttricking being one of those
T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can't teach it to use xxx when it sees MOB yyy, because it stores nothing about MOBs
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how to anchor a MUSHclient alias to the beginning of the line?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aliases are anchored by default unless you make it a regular expression
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: same with triggers
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: does tintin have a repeat command?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: use !
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but how to repeat 10 times?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: think its ##repeat
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: with one  #
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's what I thought as well, but sadly:-(
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: its listed under repeat on manual bit its just #10 xxx
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ta!
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Augh, restarted MUSHclient and this wolf is back. How do I eradicate it?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra wipes his brow with obvious relief.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I have no idea what I broke, but now the background is kind of grayish instead of deep black. The "B" in ANSI colors is correct black #000000, though. What else should I fix?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cizra: ansi color settings don't actually take hold until you save/close/restart mushclient
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so maybe try restarting the client
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (this is because there's no hook for detecting when the color settings change)
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Anyone ever used a MYSQL to MYSQLI conversion tool for php scripts, or am I better off just doing it by hand....
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I prefer postgresql myself...
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wank wank my database is better, no mine is, no mine is. Mendaloth: nope sorry
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Are you using slony?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: I wasn't saying mine's better, was just saying that I'm not familiar with converting mysql to mysqli didn't even know there was a mysqli :P
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: This isn't a curse channel or I'd share the source for my question!  It tells you how "messed" up your database is...
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: its all about those rocks, i do all my programming with rocks (if you dont get the refrence: https://xkcd.com/505/)
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: once I change global preferences to open up a world, it should automatically save there when I hit ctl s right? I feel like it did last night, but saved as just to make sure
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Trying to add eq to set in Bast's plugin, getting error that the 1st argument is an invalid serial number. Ideas?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: closing the last tab closes chrome. how can they get away with it.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: thats so unfair
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: ...
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: What do you expect it to do?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: open the opening page
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: well then open a new tab before closing the old tabs
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal slaps Bishoujo Raded.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: make a quick call to Sergey Brin
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: they don't listen to complaints
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean - they REALLY don't do that
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: ever
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: when typing "cp check" it's supposed to tell you how many hours until you can take your next campaign, correct? 
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: you can just do 1 a level
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Or is it time based at max?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i'm a superhero, it's every 2 hours
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah gotcha, ignore me :)
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: lol
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: every 4 hours for superhero .. right?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: announce notes
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: read your notes! it's 2 hours now
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: okay so any superheroes on that can confirm cp check = shows the time? because I type cp check and all I get is notes about scrambled and dead mobs....nothing that says how much longer until I can take my next one, but im pretty sure that's not right
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Aard's privileged class demanded more privileges and they got them!
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Shae: what abouy cp i?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: cp i just shows names, regular cp i info, no time information
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: even uninstalled scripts to make sure it wasn't messing it up
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mine shows time information
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: You're on a CP, I think that's why.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finish your CP and it'll revert back to time.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hrm really? they don't show while you're on one? 
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: You are not currently on a campaign. / You have completed 3 campaigns today. / You cannot take another campaign for 46 minutes and 56 seconds.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They don't show up when you're actually one one. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so i have to take a timer and set it myself.....sighi need more privledges...raded write a note for me! 
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks for checking, appreciated
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is it every 2hrs start to start or 2hr cooldown after finishing one?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: 2 hours between requests
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: 2 hour timer starts soon as you request
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: personally i would like to do about 10 campaigns in a row without a timer in between
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: just grabbed a new campaign and i have a timer, 1 hour, 59 minutes and 58 seconds.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: hypothetically what would I do if i opened up mush to play one day and it said invalid mush xml signature?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: or 'does not have valid' more preciesly
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: hypothetically you would close mush client and reopen it?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: and if that didnt work?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: hypothetically, you would then open a trouble ticket with abelinc
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: download new version, and copy important files over to it?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Barbafappa Pleiades prods you into action!
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: like, aardwolf.mcl would have the aliases/triggers, what else to copy, world and plugin folders...
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: db file
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: i wonder if there is any value in cheese as a semiconductor?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sno Queen Defines cackles gleefully at Mannec.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sno Queen Defines Tech: tasty flash storage
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: (mushclient) I've changed my global pref so that I only have one world open (aard) and it's not in the default folder, will ctrl s save now to my usb?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: or how do I make sure where my world is saving?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your world file should be in the MUSHclient worlds folde
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you can also do Save World Details As...
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the aard MUSHclient folder itself doesn't have a default folder, it's a portable installation that can be anywhere that can be saved to
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: but I want to have it saved in a different place, I think it auto saves to my usb, just wanted to make sure
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want what to be saved in a different place?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: a virus came through and wrecked alot of my folders, so want to keep it safe somewhere else incase it happens again
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could just save a backup of it then
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its worldName.mcl
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUSHclient folder can be absolutely anywhere...it actually should not be in program files
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a USB drive is no safer than your hard drive, though...
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should copy it to multiple places...backups
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: the virus didn't seem to infect the usb drive. good good
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Completely random but, does anyone here have any connections with someone Valve Software?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: throw it into dropbox, google drive, etc....the big advantage of USB drive is that you can, say, go to the library and have your MUSHclient environment
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: a 1Tb external drive is not a bad investment either.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: yeah i keep my mush on a 1TB external also
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's that, like $20 nowadays?
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: nothing is too expensive for the mush
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: more like 50, the price is competitive with much that of much smaller usb drives.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: I've sen 32M usb go for 25 or so.
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: j/k...  i keep all my backups on a RAID-1 server
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: amazon is advertizingt 2Tb for 84
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i need to upgrade my server to 2TB+ but hard to choose which drives to get
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abstract Anaristos Tech: I like western digital
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i've had seagate for years but there's some controversy about recent drive models lately
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trist Tech: wd red pretty popular home server/nas drives
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i just use a linux box with software raid
T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abstract Anaristos Tech: with a 2tb external I can place a system image for back up and carry it in my pocket :)
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurneyhallek Tech: whats do I goto on mushclient to get the text to stay in the chat box?
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the chat box
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and play with the echo in main window settings
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gurneyhallek Tech: got it thank you
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I have a mushclient mapper question, if anyone proficient is around.
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: dont ask if you can ask. Just ask
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Raded told me a command to tell the mapper what the first room of an area was, I think it involved "xset" but I can't find it in the mapper help files.
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: If we know, we'll answer. If we don't know you'll hear the sound of silence
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: that is not mapper. That is the S&D plugin
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Oh. Well, any help either way? Can't remember the syntax.
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: sorry, not from me.
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: How do i fire off another alias in an alias i create?
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: in the drop down, select execute instead of send to world.
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in MUSHclient terminology "Execute" means "pretend I typed it in" which includes activating aliases. "Script" means "this is Lua code, not just commands". And "World" means "send directly to the game without doing aliases"
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you set it to "Script" then to send world commands or do aliases you explicitly call the "Send('foo')" or "Execute('foo')" script functions
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whole or Halth Tech: Nods, thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: Anyone know a good program to open .xfdl files?
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: Abelinc
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, I'd go with PureEdge.
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: Anyone know someone who works for Valve Software?
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Pure Edge Viewer, anyway.
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Sure, Aterius. Why?
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh, upgraded to MUSH 5.01 to fix a trigger issue, and now i have an issue where ColourTell-Hyperlink-ColourTell shows up as Hyperlinks/next line/ColourTell-ColourTell
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion sighs.
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: drats :(
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: better rollback and work-around =P
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: heh not a chance :P
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: will rework the tell/hyperlink/tell
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but tell/hyperlink should both be inline with no newline, ughh
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't normally recommend upgrading MUSHclient outside Fiendish's releases
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its aardMush
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: his site has the newest 5.01 up
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, I hadn't noticed...nevermind me then :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: err, well I got it from the aardwolf wiki/clients page
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, 1860 upgrade to 5.01...ooh, this release may fix the auto-update...funny thing is on fiendish's quick site, the download zip is listed as being updated 3 days from now
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ooh, this version the commlog selection does not move as the lines scroll - that is nice
T3/r7/2016-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: before you selected something and if it scrolled you were SOL
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ha|v|nG Fibo Tech: where is default location of where mapper db is stored in mushclient folder?
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A macabre Sonet wishes he could understand git better
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: somehow I accidently turned my map off, how do I get it back on?
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corran Tech: bigmap on
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol no
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: hm. it looks like bug now. try "te zehela blah"
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: or randym
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: or crishnad :)
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's random.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: random?=
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Where did all that come from? What looks like a bug now?
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: should use capital letters.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I think you're off your meds.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: think twice
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Well, you come on tech without context talking about it looking like a bug now... :p so that was random in itself.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: all those tells give message that without the capital letter in their name
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne smirks.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Now I understand what you're spouting off about.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: i wonder why ppl havent noticed that one
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helps you Level Tech: why would bigmap make mush dissconnect someone ?
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: too many lines at once
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: try "bigmap page" instead
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helps you Level Tech: thanks that worked :)
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khaleesi Tech: what does it mean when you get the error file does not have valid mushclient xml signature ? 
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: does anyone know why "Living Walls" in the hell area would show up as unknown area in S&D? there are two rooms and both are mapped (so it's not a nomap room), i just purged both and remapped them and it still happens
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No idea, they show up correctly in my mapper database
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it's not a big deal because i know where it is... it just seems odd
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: yeah, if i use mapper find it works fine. but when i have a cp here, S&D has issues with this particular room
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: try reloading extender
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i guess i'll try that next time... i had just killed the mob before i asked the question unfortunately so i wouldn't be able to test if it works
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It does that because it's not recognizing "Living Walls" as an area in your level range.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i've had it before, shows red in s&d but after reloading extender it shows white/found
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: When you're out of level range for that area, it won't display it properly. *shrug*
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: not sure if it's due to level range, though i guess it's possible... it didn't give me this notification: "Ignoring due to level : a Yurgach guard in 'Guard Room' (newthalos) [10-35]"
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: though the area is 35-55 so maybe i just didn't get that notification for whatever reason
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: yer over 35, why would you recieve a warning?
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i take it back, i was looking at the wrong cp req note
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: it was a level issue - thanks arcidayne
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: mannec: the message i'm referring to is thrown by S&D, it filters out area results that are outside of your level range
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: hmm. ok.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abstract Anaristos Tech: yes, they are, thought hey are very heavy.
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abstract Anaristos Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: Can you run aard-mush client on a mac? and if so, how?
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: wine
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abstract Anaristos Tech: under wine
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaewan Tech: i'm doing it with boot camp, but most use wine
T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: That's what I thought, same as linux..
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slightfly Tech: why does it seem that the game runs faster when playing it off of ajump drive on a computer rather then off of the computer
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: is the computer encrypted?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz you're looking for a difference :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slightfly Tech: is that just in my head
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: no, biker is in your head
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slightfly Tech: l
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: how do i use Mapper to find the speedwalk from point A to B ?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: mapper where (room number)
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: So e.g. i can use that at Aylor recall and i will see the SW to the room?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: would include the portal that you will use.
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arduin Tech: Is there a way for me to add a new window to the AardMUSH client, where I can take notes? 
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: what do you mean "take notes"?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arduin Tech: And having them be visible on screen all the time 
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arduin Tech: If for instance I wanted to constantly be able to see the numbers on my spells 
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arduin Tech: and wanted to just be able to write them down in a sepperate window 
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: not aware of such plugin. you can youse alt+4 to open notes. and alt+f4 to close
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adolph Tech: is there a way to scroll back up on the aardwolf mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: push page up
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Emeris Tech: page up button should work if not using a scroll mouse
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: is that is what you mean
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adolph Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+Alt+W
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: opens a notepad
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also ctrl+alt+space I guess. not sure the exact difference
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also available under the Edit menu
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arduin Tech: How do I exit full-screen mode in AardMUSH?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right-click on top of window , untick full-screen
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arduin Tech: Thanks! 
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Win Duels Tech: is there a way to remove all portals from xrt?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maokai Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no clue, but you can do runto instead of goto
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry, walkto 
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}I Win Duels Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Anyone else ever experience wifi going "No network access" then when you try to reset the adapter it hangs, but on a reboot before it dies it says it can't disable the adapter becuase it is busy connecting or disconnecting?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: try reinstalling the driver/make sure you have the right one
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: I tried that, this only recently started happening but the driver is the same as it always was
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abstract Anaristos Tech: anyone getting clipboard errors in mushclient? Espcifically "Cannot Open Clipboard"
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abstract Anaristos Tech: started happening last night
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tried quitting and restarting MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sounds like a memleak kind of error
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abstract Anaristos Tech: I'll give that a try. Though I did power off my comp between episodes.
T3/r7/2016-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Any idea why my bast spellup keeps getting stuck on skills, then disabling some
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slightfly Tech: im playing with blowtorch on my phone and cant figure out how to open tbe options menu or even find it. anyone help?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: has anyone gotten os.execute to work with mush on wine? I want to run an executable in /usr/bin.
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: by "to work" I mean able to run things that I can run from a terminal, it already works as expected
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I would be pretty surprised if it would work
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I found a half-solution: os.execute("wineconsole ...") seems to do _something_, but it doesn't work for my purposes.
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: never mind, apparently that only worked with a previous version of wine
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: I forgot where to change the font of my input line, anyone know?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: (mushclient)
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: ah, thanks, didn't see it there for some reason
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: what's the syntax for making a for loop in mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what language?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: dunno, just want to be able to loop and use the variable in the loop
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i think its Lua by default, but you can change it in script settings
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well if you use lua.. http://www.lua.org/pil/4.3.4.html
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: k, thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: for i=1,10,1 do print(i) end would print the numbers 1 to 9 I believe (not printing 10)
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could modify that to do what you want
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that would print 10 also
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh ok, wasn't sure
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its start, stop, increment
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: increment will default to 1 if not given
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: also note that "stop" is not the number of loops, but the number to stop at..
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: so for i=1,10,2 do print(i) end will only print 1,3,5,7,9
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: how do i specify which language i am using in a mushclient alias?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no need to
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you change in world properties
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: by default lua interpreter is added to aardmush I believe
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but if you change it to another language, then it other plugins wont work I think...
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: sorry plugins will still work if you change it
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Endymion.
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just make sure you send to script if you want it to be processed that way
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: ok i have a major problem
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: what is it?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: is there a way to make mushclient ignore a particular room for path calculation?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: set a level lock
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: set a level lock or make a cexit around it
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: how do i stop the command input area from resizing?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://github.com/fiendish/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#i-dont-like-that-the-input-bar-automatically-resizes-how-do-i-change-that
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: How do you toggle mini windows to show?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Which mini window?
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah nm I found it, thanks though :)
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: is there a way to set Ctrl+1,2,3,etc as macros in mush? I don't see them listed on the macro dialog
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: even alt+number is fine
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ellydris Tech: it's on the keypad page, you can click the box that says 'show contents if CTRL is held down' to set them
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: oh should have specified, not numpad numbers as I already use ctrl+numpad for other things
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: never tried it, but you can see if you can edit the key sequence. click on something like "who" then hit edit.
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: tried that, negative
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: change "who" to ALT+5 see if it lets you.
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: there's no option to even edit the key sequene
T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: yes, there is, you select the key sequence then the edit buttom comes live.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: there you go: long Accelerator(BSTR Key, BSTR Send)
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warsnail Anaristos Tech: in mush native script
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: anyone know why mudrammer would stop accepting inputs after being logged in for awhile? receives output just fine
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lews Tech: it happens to me when my screen rotates usually
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I don't even know what mudrammer is... sounds kinky.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: hrm..hadn't noticed a screen rotation tie, but i'll check
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: it's iphone mud client. can't find a better one (but if someone knows of one i'm all ears)
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: They could have named it anything else but "mudrammer"...
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torkin Tech: ha yeah i guess that is an interesting name
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Useful Hadar Tech: Is there an easy way to only move boot files from one harddrive to another? I bought a 120Gb ssd, and its to small to have all the files I currently have, but i do not want to start 100% from scratch again
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: they should have included software to move your OS either with the kit or from their website
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solaris Tech: otherwise you can find a ulity for that it fairly easily
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I have a Vizio smart tv with its own built in OS-type dealy
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: but It won't surf the web, which I'd like it to
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: is there a way to jailbreak it
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: or does anyone know of any resources I can look at (websites etc) to guide me through it
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: google knows pretty much everything - ask her?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: but why?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: I tried before and didn't get much help from google
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I would be surprised if something like that existed
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: have you given your Tv Interferon?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: not much benefit to rooting a smart TV
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: viewing videos on the web would be nice
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: mine won't currently
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: handful of apps that all suck except netflix
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, smart TV OS's are usually trash
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Did you try rebooting it?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: would something like Roku work?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: dunno what roku is
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: True, Smart TVs are generally garbage OS. Get a small stick device for $20 and use that to surf the web.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Roku are spectacular.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: My wife uses Roku, it's pretty neat
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: use the device you are using now - boom, free-er than the stick.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Roku wouldn't be free but it might solve your problem
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Roku stick: http://www.amazon.com/Roku-3500R-Streaming-Stick-HDMI/dp/B00INNP5VU
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: ok so onlinemeded is a site w decent videos on various medical topics that are great for passive studying. I'd like to go to his site and watch the videos there since they're better organized. Don't have the cables to connect my computer to the TV
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably not a free solution to that issue, unfortunately
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jilted Tech: and I can't TN, try to keep up
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: Jilted are you able to watch youtube on your tv?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: buy the cables, or copy onto media your tv can read?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: download the vids and stick on a dvd?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: buy the cables is by far and away the cheapest, easiest, and most backwards compatible way of doing it
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: agrees with Tigernuts
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: I just hook my laptop up with an hdmi cable and boom better than a smart tv
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: I play aard on a 60 inch tv
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: wireless keyboard/mouse
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds boring.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: streaming to 'smart' tv's is the latest faggotry, not surprised people try and overthink it to be trendy
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, eventually smart tvs will be smart. Everything starts at the beginning.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i'm curious as to why anyone watches tv anymore.. the internet seems to have much more
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: that is tv watching, just watching something different.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: watching something on youtuve is no different in concept from watching a dvd on your tiv, in fact, youtube emulates that.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraxas Tech: to live stream you have to choose what to watch - its like a kid in a sweet shop paralysed by the vast choice - live tv you just watch whats on
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exiled To Aphelion Tech: well, that's just a matter of training. The same training an isolated human would have to undergo if they suddenly were given a tv.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm anyone have any ideas why this regex ON trigger: match="^You have (.*?) trains? available for instinct.$" is somehow matching this line: "You have 2,805 trains available for instinct:"
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: in mush...
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: . matches anything
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: shouldn't the : fail the match?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because the . matches anything. YOu need to escape it.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: escape the .
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: replace it with "\."
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: haha - nah actually it's working correctly, I just couldn't figure it out!!!
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Unintended bug, that ended up keeping the plugin from failing when someone deposited instinct!
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: . will just match one of everything right?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: Thanks guys!
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: anyone have a link for Sharptracker?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: you can google it, i know its on his blog.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Thanks Pheal
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: http://goo.gl/2AsQOJ
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Want to create a sound trigger for dbl what do people use as the trigger word?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why not trigger off the gmcp?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: There's a few forms of double messages.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: not familiar with the gmcp
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gmcp is sexcellent
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: sounds sexy
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Daily prayer, holliday, million mob, player SH, donation, imm initiated, etc
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: aye so a gmcp trigger would cover all that then?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Is there a single GMCP message for all doubles? If so, i'm not aware of it.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: It's called checking the binary on dbl in the gmcp field.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: how do you view the gmcp?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I swear there's a dbl field somehwere. Maybe I'm thinking quest, bah. Hmm.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Like double xp? I just put mine on the prompt
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Rake.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: gabe wants a trigger to sound
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Oh that's not hard
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Go off prompt. Easier to explain than GMCP.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: I have a trigger sound for quest pop...looking to make a trigger sound for all dbl pops
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Dbl only shows up in prompt when it's active.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Just trigger 'For the next 10 minutes experience is doubled' to make a sound
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No, Rake.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: That's the dumb way, no offense.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Meh, equivalent to prompt, IMO
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: damn you set off my triggers
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Because it doesn't cover all instances of double.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Well...anchor them...
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: you could also have abelinc hit a gong for you
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: I just trigger on the word double haha!
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Can just trigger for each, it's worked for me since day 1
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Never missed a double
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: double?
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly-enough, pleiades, that is an easy way to do it :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: open ended double? That's a silly trigger.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: twitter.com/aardstats
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Triggering off prompt, you only have to check for Dbl, and check it once.
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: it sure is
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've missed lots of doubles if that's your trigger, rake
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: No I have it for each, like superhero, donate etc
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would miss all of the hour doubles, as well as the donation doubles
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you've had it for the donates, then you told us something other than your trigger
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: No that ones for superhero
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: trigger off prompt if wildcard that equates to the double part of prompt, do sound, else don't
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so then you have multiple triggers...what you said here was "just trigger 'For the next 10 minutes experience is doubled', which is different than "trigger on that plus a couple others"
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: gets all doubles, have a variable that it has to see a prompt without double, to prvent it spamming each promt instance
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use 6 triggers, to capture who got the SH (manor or hear me), xmas cards, daily blessing, million, and donations...each of them will be tweeted to the account mentioned earlier, so an option is to follow the twitter account with a sound trigger (ifttt or similar can make that happen)
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and note that the donation doubles message was changed earlier today
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err at last reboot
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funnoying Aurelia Tech: hi, i'm having trouble with mush. i use bast plugins, and whenever i try to install anything relating to cp or quest miniwindows, im getting errors. So i'm trying to reinstall the whole thing, but i can't figure out how to get bast into mush again
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bast, you must put the entire "bast" folder into MUSHclient\worlds\plugins
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: including the folder itself, not moving the individual files
T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funnoying Aurelia Tech: ok thanks ill give that a whirl
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: helo I have a client with one char and i tried to copy the db file over  to this one but it's not finding any of hte rooms? how come/ did i do something wrong?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: can anyone help?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: hi
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: help with?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: hello. I'd like to copy my mapper db from my other char to this client how much i do that?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: ohh..i don't know.sorry someone else might have a solution
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: oh. okay
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funnoying Aurelia Tech: i had something similar happen to me - it sounds like you have two copies of mush on your computer currently. are you sure you are copying it from the one you want to, instead of the one that has no mapper data filled in yet?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Funnoying Aurelia Tech: ok well thats all i got :P
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: but i copied the db file over do i need to copy anything else/
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: it'ss not even showing hte portals from my other char in the portal list which i thought it would
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: i figured  I'd just delete them on this char
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirion Tech: make sure you didnt just copy a shortcut
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: a shortcut?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: why would there be a shortcut to the db file in there 
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirion Tech: why would it be empty if you copied it right?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: i might have fixed it i think it was being blocked by my computer
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: brb
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Why does comcast have to suck so badly?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraxas Tech: does aardwolf support mxp variables?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: hello?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: hail and well met
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: your question is important to us and we will be with you as soon as possible
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Piffaron says, 'Botting is like a drunk weasel.  It's only fun until someone gets caught.'
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: wqhat would i Need to do to copy the database for hte mapper I use for one char onto this client for this char/
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: what would i Need to do to copy the database for hte mapper I use for one char onto this client for this char/
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: if you use the same instance of mush then the databases are the same
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: you're supposed to say "hi my name is raj and I know nothing even though it's my job. how can i help you?"
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: and no I'm using a different instance
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: so i don't have the same portals
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then find Aardwolf.db and copy that
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: that's all? 
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that is the database
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: kk
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: close mush first
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: okay
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erunak Tech: hi how do i get my map to stop showing coordinates when i move to another room?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: richtclick map
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erunak Tech: can't right click I'm vi
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: tags coordinates off
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Or tags coords off rather
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erunak Tech: ah thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: If you're new here, I suggest you read 'help vi'. There's some vi tips, too, and you can also ask other VI players what their settings are to best maximize your experience and minimize the hassle.
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: is Python fast to load data from a file to a database?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: depends on what db and what kind of file, probably not python unless I misunderstand
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: i know there is some package called petl...basically i am using SAP HANA as database and i want to load 25000 files (115 GB of data), if i use the SAP ETL tool it takes me around 33h to load them...i want to look on a way to improve the time
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: petl? parallel ETL ?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyTail Tech: https://petl.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: does anyone use that spellup plugen thingy?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: someone does...
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: abelinc 2.1?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: okay my question is, if i"m using it but have detect vis and fly and night vision as a inate skill how do i make it so it will only cast spels i have
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: i mean spells that i need to cast not 
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: depends which spellup plugin thingy you are using
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: there are many spellup plugins and they all (probably) have a way to ignore spells
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: I have a plugin to ignore raded
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: thingy*
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: oh sorry I'm using the winkle one
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: noauto
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: type "ww help" to get a full rundown of what you can do in all of your Winkle plugins
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: that shows what spells are no-auto, and you can add/remove them with "noauto spell#"
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded slaps Barbafappa Pleiades.
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: and what's wrong with thingy?
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: its not very technical
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: thingy hurts
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: doesn't describe what you're using :p
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: I"m not medical than technical I'm a massage therapist
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ppl on here want to know exact info to provide accurate responses
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: okay
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: no more thingies
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: ahem, massage therapist..  wink wink
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: hmm noauto isn't working
T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrok Tech: ah i got it
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Neytiri Tech: whats the best mudding app for iphone 5s thats free?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavelost Tech: anyone around that could field a few newb questions about upgrading a desktop?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just ask your questions, there is always somebody around 
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: Whats the mushclient file that is the giant chat log of communications?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Under Logs... Aardwolf Chat... ? :p
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: how do I make an eqset with bast's eqset plugin? I see commands for listing, adding and removing items, and clearing but no creating
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I am trying to install Sharp Tracker and getting an error. Does anyone know what the newest version is for the newest mushclient?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: runtime errors are the best
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:17: attempt to concatenate global 'stversion' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sorry I'm not familiar with the plugin.. but that means they stversion didn't have a value though the plugin expected it always would (or would in this case)
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: do you know what stversion might be?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: not sure, let me open the XML.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: who cares? store something to it and move on with your life.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh prolly "Sharp Tracker" version
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could just fill in a default value for it to get it to shut up for now
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or add a "nil check"
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: something like if(stversion ~= nil) then [code that's there now that uses stversion] end
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's probably checking if there's updates to the plugin on startup
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or "new versions"
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: who would write a concatenation func that isnt bull-safe?!
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: null-safe*
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: haha, everyone does it
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: takes too long to develop everything perfectly null-safe :P
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I mean.. it's better.. just doesn't always cross your mind
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or mine at least :\
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: nah, the concat func itself only takes a little time - then everything that uses it is already done.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm guessing the concat isn't a function they wrote?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oh you mean the library one?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: blame the mush devs - got it.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: sometimes it's better to let the user fall flat on their face though, if you try to do too much for them you actually can take away the "understandability" of what a function's expected usage and output will be
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: and make errors much harder to pinpoint
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yeah as I do commands I get more nil references. This plugin is from 2008 so I am sure the mushclient changes have rendered it broken :(
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well poopsticks
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I grouped with someone who had it, and it did some cool stuff in group tell... color formastting of quest targets and such to make it easier to read
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: no newer versions available?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Im gonna look around.... might get lucky
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: ahh yeah, Cares has one like that
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yup thats who it was :)
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: while your statement is, in general, correct, there is absolutely no coder on earth who wants that behavior in this case.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you could do it yourself too :P it's probably not that bad
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yeah I might try to learn some lua... never done any lua though..
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: me neither before a couple weeks ago, it's really easy to pick up though
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: lua is pretty cool
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: something plus nothing is _always_ supposed to be something, not crash-and-burn.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods at Mannec.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: in the real world yeah..
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: sometimes it's supposed to be mothing, not crash-and-burn though
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: in dev world though, it's like dividing by 0
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: nah, that would be something _times_ nothing :p
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: just doesn't make sense what adding null/nil to something would give you
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: or multiplying by the inverse of nothing..
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: makes perfect sense in C...
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: which is again.. a concept no one can fathom
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Neytiri Tech: which mudding app is the best on iPhone 5s?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Apparently an app called "Mudrammer".
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: That sounds hot
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan falls down laughing.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I want that.. I think..
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: the new grindr?
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: or you use an app to connect to your computer and get your full mush client
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan . o O ( sounds about right... )
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: My first thought was, "That sounds kinky."
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: which I personally like
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I use teamviewr.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: same
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: spelled correctly, of course.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Neytiri Tech: ok then.. Mudrammer it is... 
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Used to be Logmein, but they started charging for personal use.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: VNC is free, works on Android at least
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: So is teamviewer.
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: oh i see
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: teamviewer is a bit easier. No config needed
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: vs vnc you'd need to set it up/port forward etc
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: teamviewer is just prettied up VNC with a central server for easily punching through NAT
T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: True, works well with no thought/effort.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Why does comcast have to filter ipv6 traffick? This is terrible had to disable it so I could use the internet normally
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so at least you know they support IPV6  and provide to some customers (I assume it they filter it for you then they support it)
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's likely that they just don't provide it, not that they filter it...
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: They do support it according to thier documentation, why they are killing mine is beyond me.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Might be disabled unless you elect to pay for a more expensive package... thought the 90 a month package would suffice..
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they support it in certain areas...yours may not be one of them...and they're not killing yours, yours just doesn't know where to go
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: No issues once I completely disabled ipv6 from my adapter
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's on your end, nothing to do with them
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: if I tracert google.com it fails to go anywhere after my local network
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it should
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: If I use tracert -4 it works fine
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, as expected
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: the router they provide does not allow for external ipv6 traffick
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not on an ipv6 network, so it has nowhere to go...but your PC gives priority to the IPv6 traffic...it's like when you've got wifi on and you plug in an ethernet cable...if the ethernet NIC has a default gateway, your PC will essentially ignore the wifi
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not on an ipv6 network, it has nowhere to send ipv6 traffic
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: Hey quick question fo ryou techies... I tried installing win 10 twice yesterday and it failed both times.. I read that avast might be the cuplprit so I am uninstalling it before this attempt... is there anythign else I should check/unistall/disable before i attemp again? Im going from win 7 to 10
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: That's the most likely issue unless there is some critical device that it isn't able to load a driver for. Far as I recall, it tells you explicitly to remove any AV programs when you do the install.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: I find it's usually easier to just do a raw install versus an upgrade from inside. Back up pertinent documents, and fresh install. Clears up clutter and build up, as well as forces you to install only the things you need again, not all the dormant trash
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: use mac!
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check logs if there are any
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Don't use mac`1
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Linux > All
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: The raw install is tricky - if it doesn't have a chance to upgrade your serial number with MS's activation service, it's a problem.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: win 10 doesn't run well on a mac?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: and i do that from an iso right?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Mac doesn't run well on a mac
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: That note is only for machines that have the serial number embedded in the EFI bios, though.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: hmm could you point me in the right direction to perform a raw install?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirion Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-to-clean-install-windows-10/ maybe
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: There's an option to create bootable media (DVD or USB stick) that works well for a raw install.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: thanks guys i might be back if i f it up again lol
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Just as long as you've got your current activation key around somewhere.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, need that key
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cirion Tech: he just needs hjis win 7 key
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Right
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Like I said, beware: Some new machines do not give you the key for the current install of Windows. (think that's mostly just with Win8). They store the key in the EFI BIOS.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: should be good key sticker is on the bottom of my laptop
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: If that's the case, you _must_ do the upgrade proper.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: is there a reason why i have to re download before every attempt? shouldnt it be stored somewhere
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: That part is also fixed if you create the media on a USB stick/DVD.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-media-creation-tool-create-installation-media-upgrade
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: The Disc-mounted ISO can't read the EFI chip number?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Kind of dumb...
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: All it has to do is ask the BIOS just like the HDD would..
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: thanks again for the advice ill let you know how it turns out
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Spent a week and had to order recovery media for a machine :-/
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: most of those have a ghost partition with recovery info
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: good luck wars...
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Robbo Tech: Since I did a fresh install (and it was pretty much a new machine), I foolishly didn't keep the recovery partition. :P
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Om Nom Nom Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: They try so hard to be user-friendly they just end up screwing the power users :P
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Windows will be OSX in a decade at this rate.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: has there been request for "get <exact keyword>" to prefer the item that has it instead the one that just starts with it. i mean "get pamphlet2" gets pamphlet23 instead of pamhlet2 now. 
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: yup going to have to try the raw install method I made it to a whole 3% before it failed
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wars Tech: but im actually getting worried that its my comp crashing in the middle of the update and possibly overheating... pice of crap laptop
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: any functionality in the mapper to put a 'stop' for places like the entrance to genie's lamp in sandcastle so it doesn't throw all the extra commands that will fail?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pheal My Redwood Tech: anyone know of a proxy I can use to appear in the USA? Im in serbia atm and need to register on a site that only allows people in the us to register
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Cyrn: yes, a cexit that uses wait(x)
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: I create the cexit with wait, but it still speedwalks the whole path
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I think my cexit there is "say i wish to see the genie;wait(5)"
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and I don't have issues with it
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrn Tech: oh mush wait rather than cexit_wait
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah all cexit_wait does is give the cexit more time to complete. if you put wait(x) in the string, it'll pause the speedwalk for that period of time.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: is it possible to load extenal lua libraries (that use C extensions) from mushclient's lua? The one I'm looking at is https://github.com/dodo/ldbus/
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: If I have three numbers '1 2 3' I can capture with regex using '%d %d %d" BUT sometimes it's just two numbers '1 3' is it possible to make a regex expression conditional so it looks at '1 2 3' AND '1 3' and captures them correctly?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: can you use '%d %d ?%d?' ?  that should do 2 or 3 numbers as described
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: in Lua i'd use [\d ]+ to capture a group of numbers/spaces only
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: is there a way to make mushclient mapper to go to the beginning of an area besides making alias to run to room # of every area?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you could use search & destroy/mapper extender from winklewinkle
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: then you can 'xrt areaname'
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jormungandr Tech: k i'll try that
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: get the triple pack from his website
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no such thing as "the beginning of an area"
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded points excitedly at The Jerk Fiendish!
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: he probably means the same room that 'runto' takes you to
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: pretty sure he meant just go to the area
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only the entrance and exit of an area.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using a reasonably-current aardMUSH, you will need to get it from nokfah's website rather than from winklewinkle's
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded points at you.  How rude! 
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: though mapper extender alone might be fine
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: The 'first room of an area' is defined as the room where a continent exit, portal, or custom exit leads to/from an area.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: no the xrt wouldnt work :P
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some areas have multiple entrances
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: even with WW's mapper extender installed?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: not recommended to install extnder by itself, some things won't work and it'll be annoying
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aylor, for example, takes you to north/south/east/west entrances from the continent, depending on which direction you went
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Glimmerdim, I think, has multiple entrances.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: "runto mesolar" takes you to the west side of aylor so I think it's reasonable to define that as the "start" of mesolar
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Depending on where you come from.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: from a purely technical standpoint
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: if you continue with your damn logic, you'll gonna create a black hole and we all die
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: what wouldnt work with extender by itself?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: we are all pedantic nerds fighting over technicalities
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: xcp is an extender command but the mob keyword guessing code is in S&D
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morn Tech: it uses a callplugin to get that info
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: Your name was in your prompt before?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Om Nom Nom Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: anyone else get an issue with S&D no such column r.date_added?
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Nope, not anymore.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Finger Nokfah for the fix for that.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: finger nokfah
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Winkle was an idiot. ;)
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: #sub {Hirozan} {Newbulous Hirozan}
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Oops, mis!
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: it wasnt that bad what he did.  he just used what was there to accomplish something
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: however, removing a column after xx years, probably just because someone utilized it, is kind of idiotic in my opinion
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: He didn't remove it just because someone utilized it.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: did it become irrelevant?  no it was always irrelevant :P
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Exactly. So it was just irrelevant cleanup, not removing it for any other reason, really.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: my machine wasnt suffering from the database overhead
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: but, one could argue a lot of folks are suffering due to upgrading
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Upgrading isn't a bad thing.
T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: such is life.  posturing is inevitable
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Anyone know any good games with an element of in game programming? Example of Space Engineers which has a programmable block in it where you write c#
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: skyrim!
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: ... what?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: programmable in skyrim?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kippe Tech: aardwolf. You can write LUA scripts
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: lol .. didnt think of that
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: sure aardwolf is great and I do write many plugins, I am looking for a game I can take a step further. I hear Lasher will ban you if you make an automatic base in aardwolf so I want to do it in other games 
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}__m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal Tech: yes! you had to figure out how much what cranks to turn to lower bridges. i had to count to 20 one time. it was hard
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: Like in SE I recently made autonomous drones to help me do things. I just like doing that tye of stuff for fun, any ideas?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: type*
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: automatic base?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: how do i see the Prompt that i have in terms of it's break down so I can copy and paste?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qbano Tech: p data
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraxas Tech: has anyone used mudlet to pick up gmcp values?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: http://forums.mudlet.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1547
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: anyone have a script they can share for doing hunt trick?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: my S&D seems to not work that well now... it only does one check, and stops alot of times
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: sorry... my Search & Destroy is not working right for some reason
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: did abelinc touch your computer?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: haha not that I know of :)
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Ive heard folks talk about setting one up in an alias, but I tried and am not the programmer to do it it seems :)
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: it's weird, S&D's hunttrick only works if you have the hunt skill, otherwise it only does hunt once
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: you're missing the trigger line
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ahh, might be thats what did it Vyhn... thanks. Still need an idea for the script to do it... anyone have one they can at least give me pointers in scripting myself?
T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorlok Tech: i get randomly disconnected when i'm on my suddenlink home wifi, but i dont on my verizon mifi, any ideas? on the same laptop btw
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Is there any way to make S&D or mapper use mist form?
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: put it into your custom exit command
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: as custom exit
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah ty
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't do that... it'll break if the mapper ever tries to path through there when you don't have mist form
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: a better option would be to make the custom exit an alias that checks if you have mist form, uses it if you do, otherwise just sends the directions normally
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grimace Tech: hello, i am using mag but for some reason the "extra info" feature is not showing up. is there a way i can enable it?
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: anyone knows of any sense life script?
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sultan of XiQuan Tech: I've seen before one that gives up to exact seconds and minutes for repop.
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: shoot, what's the lua library function to add commas to a string again
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: i am using a comma function, cant remember where i got it
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: assuming off the mush's website
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: require commas, commify(number)
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: if you're using MUSH.
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: Aha, there it is. commas.lua has it(duh). SO require "commas" then you can commas(<number>).
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Thought it was commafy(number), but I forget. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: or commify, whatever.
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But commas sounds right. *ponder*
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nokfah Tech: commafy sounds better. Maybe I'll write a wrapper for it :)
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hirozan Tech: anyone remember the bast plugin command for cplevelling (turning on noexp automatically?
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: statdb set dontlevelnocampaign true
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: What's that do?
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: turns on noexp if you are getting close ot leveling and you haven't taken a cp yet
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Ah, and does it turn off when you complete?
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: yes
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Dang
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: I got to save that one, can I make it an alias, or is it just a one time thing?
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: it works until you turn it off
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: i have an alias for turning on/off
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Awesome
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Hm, says I can't do that, do I need something special to be able to use it?
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: its one of the bast plugins
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: Which one? I have the folder downloaded with them all
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hann Tech: statdb
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: ty
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am listening to electronic... no clue which religion
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mis
T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meowshin Tech: i just installed mush on a new computer and forgot how to add S&D xml..can someone help me?
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: My xrt or 'mapper goto' are messing up in one room when running to Dynasty, any way to edit it?
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: It's suppose to be 'run 3d' but it's doing 'run 2d'
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: anytime I do Hunt I get a compile error.... Compile error
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: World: Aardwolf
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Immediate execution
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: [string "Alias: "]:1: unexpected symbol near ','
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I have removed recently added sharptracker, and rebooted my PC... any suggestions on how to fix the issue?
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: anyone use kodi? either raspberry pi or pc based?
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: no :P
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: k:) It's pretty sweet when it works, lol
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: kodi as the multimedia desktop manager?
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: I have a pi connected to my tv, can stream any movie or tv show out there
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Algaru Tech: i tried to set up a kodi machine on pi... gave up on it because it would be useless to me without netflix or hulu support
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: not with the right plugins
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i am a pirate using xfce, peerflix and vlc
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: but that was source of my question, the main plugin I use, genesis, is no longer bringing up search results
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: will probably just check pi forums
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shelkin finally bought a SSD ... 
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shelkin Tech: is freenode irc down?
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: it was, but then i told it some knock-knock jokes, and it cheered right up.
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: no. i was able to connect.
T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shelkin hmmm "I just upgraded my system disk, and reinstalled my OS. I wonder if I botched my irssi install."
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: cat "gossip here we go: " + /dev/infinite_monkeys >> //aardwolf.org:4000
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Perishing Starphoenix Tech: anybody know where i can grab a new double predictor script? mine's been broken ever since the mud pass 1 billion kills and i can't get it to work again
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Question about the mapper.... is there a way to have it view the floor below or above you, so you can click to move?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jean- Luclin Tech: would having an older version of the mush client increase disconnects?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraxas Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd just be missing features
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jean- Luclin Tech: thank you kindly, I'm up to date with the exception of the last six months, I just don't wanna reinstall plugins and move files around to get all my aliases and such, too lazy
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: anyone know why my mapper keeps trying to up from the entrance to flying citadel?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the room, look at the exits
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my fastest path to Insanitaria includes portaling to flying citadel and then it tries to go up
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: enter portal, then xset mark
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it only has north
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm not using s&d
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tallimos Tech: oh.. nevermind then lol
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remove the exit
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I removed cexits
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how do I remove an exit?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the room like I suggested earlier...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it only has north a possible exit
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: as a*
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it only lists north when you have the mapper show the exits, then the mapper won't try up
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I agree.. logically but when I do mapper where to the room id for the entrance of insanitaria..
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's before that in the mapper where
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it's run u6w10n3w
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: the mapper portal to go to entrance of citadel
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if I manually walk to the continent and then execute the goto it goes there fine
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're sitting in the citadel entrance and do mapper where, does it show the up, or only when you're elsewhere and you see it try the portal first?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: it shows the up
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm there now
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: doesn't make any sense
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but it also includes the portal command
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: maybe I had another portal with the same name that went to a different area..
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahha...yup
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's listing th eportal command, it thinks that that portal command is taking it somewhere else
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm.. this one portal exits says "A crack in the valley" 14960
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: which is wrong
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what I'd do is go to insanitaria, walk the speedwalk backwards and see where you end up
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think I made the portal in the wrong room
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: classic novice mistake hah
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: cool cool thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably ran to the area and made the portal thinking it was in the runto room entrance
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mighta been too low level for using the portal when you made the mapper portal
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what is the antonym for default ? default as in default locale, default settings
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: custom
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: is there a way to change your map view and see floors above and below you?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Pyronia: which map view?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok, mapper question... how can I do a cexit for a room that teleports once you step inside? I did a mapper cexit open west;west and that got me to the gauntlet... but the next time I try to run the path it cant find a path
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've had the same problem with that cexit.. not sure why it doesn't work
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: you get transported just by entering the room, no cexit needed
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need the cexit for the mapper to know to look for th transport
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you just do the cexit in the room before it
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: just put a lag causing command in there?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: thats what I did, but ti still doesnt work with an xrt
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should have nothing to do with xrt
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: isn't that what he said he did?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use xrt
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I assumed it counts that one room, even though the 2 second mesage came up in the gauntlet... 
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xrt itsn't the mapper
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: is tbhat what it uses when I click on the mapper link?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: when I do a mapper find gauntlet, it says I cant get there from here
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: S&D doesn't list the rooms in the order you enter them. So it displays 50 "The Gauntlet" rooms. One of those rooms will be the first (correct) room. You'd just have to go through nx to find it.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where are you?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ahh I see Arci
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: just mapper goto 31685
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can't find a path to any "the gauntlet" rooms EXCEPT for the first one, because they're through a maze
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you must go to the FIRST one, as that's the only one it can get a path to
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Im in the Gauntlet now Fiendish, I was just trying to figure out how I can get ti to auto path there, instead of that teleport room breaking it
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: wouldn't you expect the first one in the list to be the landing place though?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: why?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yajan: no
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I "mapper find gauntlet" I get Found 51 targets matching '%gauntlet%'. Your search returned more than 50 results. Choose a more specific pattern.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so what are you actually typing?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: and I have that option selected that is supposed to order my rooms from closest to farthest...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I was clicking the link on the room after I did a qw
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no idea what qw is
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: sorry I am mixing up mapper stuff and S&D stuff :(
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: does the teleport take you to the same room always?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I'm thinking that could be the real issue.. if not..
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: xrt does not use mapper find, so whatever settings you have for mapper itself will not transfer to S&D.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: let me test it with mapper find next time... see if that has different behaviour than the S&D quick where
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Yes, Yajan, the transfer ALWAYS takes you to the same room.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: When I want to just get into the 'Gauntlet' part of the area I just do a 'mapper goto 31685'(via an alias)
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: qw just does a where mob, then searches room results
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But not using mapper find.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm that works
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Which is why "order by shortest path" doesn't work.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yes, and adds the links to click to run to that room... but I didnt realize those may be different than the links from a mapper find
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle was a hack :P
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is so weird. I thought I added a broadcast hook to the plugin to send out the results of queries. did I end up removing it?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraxas Tech: somewhat off topic ... but is everyone here entirely reliant on mushclient mapper plugin? 
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, I'm not
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Biker doesn't use MUSHclient
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't actually play
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: i am
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Most aren't reliant on mapper plugin, but rather S&D. :P
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: do you have a better alternative?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraxas Tech: nor here but from a newbie outsider perspective it appears most players couldnt function without mapper and search and destroy
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: which in return is relient on it
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: (thraxas)
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraxas Tech: shrug I write my own scripts / map functions as I go along / but mostly I just remember area layouts
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: using tools does not imply inability to do something without the tool
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Endymion claps at Thraxas' performance.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I dont think I would call it reliant... it make sit much more convenient... but if I didnt have it, I could use where and mapper find just fine too
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: meh, I wrote my own scripts to work with the mapper.. doesn't mess with the DB directly
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mique Tech: I can play without mapper and s&d, and i know others who dont use them, I wouldnt win any gq's but I probably wont win any for years anyway, if ever
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: not that hard
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thraxas Tech: shrug - was just a perspective - no biggie
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've won 10! :-)
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endymion Tech: your wheel sucks
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (of course, now you're booted out of both the '10 and fewer' and the T0-only ones)
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: many years ago, before we had a built in runto command that would take you to areas, danj wrote a zmud script called runto that used a local speedwalk file to let you store your own custom speedwalks and use slightly fuzzy matching on the name to run there without remembering exact area keywords
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then the immortals started to maintain a help file containing area speedwalks in it
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: my scripts do the same
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: uses speedwalk to look up the full name
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helpfile was only after continents came in
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then slightly fewer years ago, still before we had a built in runto command, I made a zmud script that scraped the help file and kept the speedwalk database updated automatically so that everyone using zmud effectively had speedwalks
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: seeing that all zmud users had it anyway, lasher added it to the game
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this was back when zmud was the major client
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I remember when I used Zmud over mush hehe
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Then Nick made MUSH free. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH had been free at that time
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: And Zugg abandoned z/CMUD.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I remember Mush being the free and not as good client..
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue...always free and always the best }:>
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Only according to you and a handful of others. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mush was the free and not as good _graphical_ client, which is why I used zmud. but I got pissed at zugg for abandoning zmud without notice, leaving a lot of unfixed bugs
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I remember the first plugin I wanted help with converting from zmud to mushclient was one that showed persistent bigmap on the screen as you walked around 
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was a neat one to watch
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hey the video still works. http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/Bigmap/Bigmap.swf
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: my first bit of mud play was a mud Called Dark Tower(now extinct) I played with a client called Genius... which was nothing more than a fancy telnet client.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: all clients are nothing more than fancy connections to a host through something like telnet :P
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: through telnet specifically...aard doesn't listen to anything but telnet
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my first client was Rapscallion
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used rapscallion for a bit
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think at some point there was discussion about websocket support 
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: when I used to get stuff from tucows
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup fiendish, the support exists but is firewalled off
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I still hope that one day someone with a lot of time makes a javascript in the browser client that does the major mushclient plugin functionality
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously the right approach would be to mimic the mushclient apis
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: throw in a lua.js interpreter, copy the api, and it's immediately on par
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except then miniwindow text handling would become soooo much simpler
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, hsoi.com still exists....http://www.hsoi.com/mud/clients/
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: most links are broken on it though
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: is the gauntlet a maze? Can my mapper eventually learn each option and find its way through? cause I been lost a while today in three trips here..
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: my room exits say 0 or -1 though.. and there are no unmapped exits shown
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there are several different categories of 'maze', and the answer depends on which one the gauntlet uses.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the gauntlet is a maze, and the mapper cannot learn it
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Thanks :(... this sucks for this low level, and no hunt skill
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from the aardwolf perspective, maze = rooms with exits whose directions change on repop, and which do not send the proper exit destinations via the mapper GMCP protocol
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddly enough, the gauntlet is also the largest maze in the game, with the maze itself being as big as some entire Aard areas...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think they can send the exits if they are not also nomap, though that may be a historical distinction
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most maze rooms are not nomap
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nomap won't give the current room's GMCP, different than the exit's GMCP
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for navigating the gauntlet without hunt, the usual technique is to use the "scan" command to look for MOBs that you haven't seen before and move toward those...some people like to nuke everything the see as they go, just to be sure that they're not circling back on the same guy multiple times
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: there is something to be said for the strategic value of genocide.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also use the roominfo to make sure that you're progressing the rooms...31696 31697 31701 31705 31709 31710 31714 31718 31722 31726 31730 31736 31737 31738 31739
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with a pet, you can ensure that you're going forward that way
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start in one room, order pet sleep...move a direction...if it's the wrong way, scan for pet, go there and move a different dir...if it's the right way, then heel, order pet sleep...lather, rinse, repeat
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Usually, I just put my right hand out and follow the wall to an exit.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't forget the ball of string
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: that works for some mazes - eventually.  not all of them, though.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Biker can't put his right hand out without shaking it all about
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: wouldn't it work for all mazes?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There are some mazes that people classify as mazes but they are entirely wrong. Hatchling Aerie's start, and Outer Space come to mind. :p
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Hunt is a tp trigger in partroxis so no
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: No one said hunt.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Biker said scan.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Since there you can move out of scan range
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tp trigger?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I want a tp trigger! If I hunt a lot, do I get tps built up?!
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: teleport.  not trivia point.  that would be way cooler.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FirstBlade Gladacus nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for partroxis, exit and scan take you almost the entire way
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: pity it needs so many pets to make it work, tho.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: especially when the MUD's been up for a while
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Yeah, partroxis, its best not to move pets, then you know moving towards em is sending you back to the start
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: But then you rely on other people's pets. :P
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, one T9 liked to put pets in the wrong rooms
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I just avoid partroxis
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: Abelinc used to do that
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You slap Yajan.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Why? Partroxis is pretty easy.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mique is agreeing with that Ontuct person again...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: Well with the nature of that maze, you can literaly be sent 30-40 rooms from where your pet is, so relying on your own aint always fruitfull either
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yajan wraps his tongue around you, moving it across your young, nubile flesh...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normally shouldn't take more than 5 mins to go the entire way through new world
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, 1500 numbers left to call in my call blast tonight
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: How can I activate a macro from an alias in MUSH? 
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd actually do it the opposite way...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: why not have the macro be the alias?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a macro should call an alias
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I think that's what he meant?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the alias is "foobar", then in the macro definition, just type "foobar"
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you want to type an alias that you've created in Mush and have that kick off a script?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: how do I add the alias to the macro?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> macros
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: no, I wanted to hit fo rinstance k mob... and in my alias have it go Kill %1;cast spell macro;cast spell macro
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not what a macro is
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: that way I can change my F2 manual main nuke when I change spells... and dont have to change my alias too
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you only change your alias
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: macro is intended to bind a keyboard key to some commands I believe..
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have your f2 be "DoMySpell"...and have the alias "DoMySpell" be whatever spell you want
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then have your kill alias simply call DoMySpell
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vyhn Tech: way I do it is f1 is attack1 which is an alias set to variable ttack1 then an alias f1 to change it so I type 'f1 bash' to change my f1 to the new skill for example.. if that is the sort of thing you are trying to do
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I use an in-game alias "attackspell" that gets changed by triggers when my next spell becomes available. have a few MUSH-side aliases and macros that use that in-game alias.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: THATS what I am wanting to ventually do! I just dont know enough yet :).
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: I have the triggers set up like this:
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: Trigger: ^Spell Trauma\. \(95\%\)$     Send: alias attackspell c 'trauma'
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: that way it'll set it when I practice it (R1) or when it becomes available (R2+), but each spell needs its own trigger with that setup
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: So I am trying to learn a little and I made a trigger that seemed to work well... until it caused an infinite loop
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I do that all the time :P
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: is there a way to abort a trigger?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn it off
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: click the enable trigger checkbox
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: to check it "off"
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok.. I guess what I mean is, I was hoping to do it with another trigger... so it wouldnt turn endless anyway. I guess I should of made it better to begin wiht, I just dont know how haha
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: err sorry it's "Enabled"
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is the trigger on, and how is it becoming an infinite loop?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: if the trigger sends the same text it triggered off of.. it's always going to loop
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I trigger on my Search and Destroy scan... if when itscans it shows that that mob isnt here... it does nx which goes to the next room in the list
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can change the color it matches on to get around that a lot of times
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: the problem is... if the mob isnt in ANY of them... it reached the last room and just kept trying to go next room and saying this was the last
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: hmm yeah
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to be blunt, that's a level of scripting that I will not help with...play the game yourself.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: you can use mapper next instead
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: that will stop at the end (it's the built-in mapper)
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: OK :)
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: is there an easy way to end spam from a trigger once it starts going into an infinite loop...without disconnecting?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Ill try that
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I have an alias "mn" to just go to the next room matched
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but it only works if you looked up the rooms with the mapper...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: be sure to read 'help botting'
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I don't use s&d so I don't know how that works
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: k
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: but yeah.. what people are trying to say is if you have scripts that pilot your around an area without you doing anything it can be construed as botting, so be careful
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok... I dont think this one is really helpful anyway
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: just not sure what to make to learn haha, Im not very creative
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: try making triggers to change the colors of certain outputs from the mud
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: (without using the change color dropdown) :P
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: haha
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I just browsed to a topic about just that
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: I've got a trigger to make me go afk after 15 min or so of not sending any of my common commands that I use when I'm here.. that was good to learn from
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: well technically a timer..
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: st
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: oops
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why have it look for a common command rather than using your idle time?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: how would it use my idle time?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take a look at my autoreply plugin...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient keeps track of how long since you've done anything
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: is there a way I can readily access that?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take a look at what my autoreply plugin does...if someone sends a tell, it'll reply with how long since you've typed anything, only if it has been longer than a configurable threshold
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: where are your plugins?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same place everyone's plugins are...
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: what language is that?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yajan Tech: .tf = tinyfugue?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll to the bottom
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient plugins are at the bottom...the top is for the MUD client that I actually use, which is tinyfugue
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: So im on win 7 and i keep getting random bluscreens that are becoming more frequent. I also keep overheating if i try to actually make my comp work even slightly hard. Win 10 ungrade keeps failing so i want to try to do a raw install from a burnt iso. But i made a unbunto disc incase something goes horribly wrong and my comp overheats before it can even load fully onto ubunto from the disc. Any thoughts at all on what I should do next? I havent tried the iso yet cus im worried my comp will overheat part way through and it will screw everything up.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: probably figure out what is overheating and why
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: fix your overheating problem first. that trumps everything else.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: laptop or desktop?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: and how can I pinpoint that?  laptop unfortunately
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: some laptops have dust traps that get clogged up
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: compressed air the hell out of everything you can
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Barbafappa Pleiades Tech: unless it's Abe blowing hot air at his CPU
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: make sure your laptop has clearance for cooling - don't literally sit it in your lap while you're under a blanket, or sit it on the bed, etc
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: #2 cause of overheating behind dust
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at Birdbrain Metria, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I was honestly thinking about opening it up airing it off and putting a fan at it during the install... but i dont know if thats would work or if that would inprove anything
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: i have it propped up 2 inches with plastic pegs
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: a laptop should be able to stay on even under heavy workload
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: its not sitting against anything
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: make sure your fans are spinning, you may have to replace one
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: so either a fan crapped out or there's dust blocking something
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: depending on your make & model of laptop, that can be easy or nightmarish
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded points excitedly at Birdbrain Metria!
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: might be easier to air condition your house to 45F
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: won't work, if your ambient temp air isn't getting inside the case
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: would running an install from usb or dvd be less resource intensive?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: nope
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: or the same?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: USB would be less intensive but not enough to matter it sounds like
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Borthain Tech: gotta fix the problem first before doing anything major
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: yeah, I don't think it's relevant
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: im never buying a laptop again i swear
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: try the compressed air. worked woders on my last laptop
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: how old is it?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: how old is it?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded called JINX before Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: should use compressed air on any laptop at least once every 6 months or so
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and if you haul it out to your shop be careful, that kind of compressed air is often wet and oily.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: wanna say about 5 years
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: blow everything out, look for dust traps, try to see if there's a broken fan, and if you're feeling really tricky you could try underclocking it if that's an option in your BIOS
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: 100% dust or broken fan
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: The laptop tables with the USB fans can work wonders. Not a specific cure-all, but it helps, even if yours fails.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: they keep your balls nice and airy too.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: kk ill open it up in the morning and see what I can do
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Er.. so i'm told.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: Be careful with opening it up.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: might not even have to open it up
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: There are ribbon cables you don't want to jar loose.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bishoujo Raded nods at Arcidayne.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're going to open the case, look on youtube for a disassembly video specific to your model of laptop
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne nods at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: I feel comfortable opening it up
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: finicky little ribbon cablesat that
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: woudlnt be the first
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arcidayne grins evilly at Ontuct.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: (I would just start unscrewing things and spraying it with air, but I'm a risk taker)
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bishoujo Raded Tech: and 5 year old laptop with a dead fan means probably time for a new laptop unless it's REALLY easy to replace.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: throw it in your dryer on an air fluff cycle. then check the lint trap to see what you jarred loose.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: Im to broke to replace it.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: so really need to do what I can to make it work
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: do you need portability? you can throw a desktop together that'd outperform a 5 year old laptop for not too much.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: no my next comp will be a desktop for sure
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcidayne Tech: I prefer the portability myself.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: check with people you know, a lot of people upgrade 2-3yo desktops that are perfectly servicable.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: wish i still lived in the city.. could find a decent one for dirt cheap
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: seperate question... can ct ive had such a bad fucking day
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: omg miss im so sorry for the swear
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk comforts Duels.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: ok so my op system is win 7... can I install ubunto as a secondary op without screwing anything up setting patitions ect?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you need to make partitions for a ubuntu install. different file system
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: The answer is yes and it's better to have Windows installed first and install Ubuntu after
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: can you partition without reformating?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: You can shrink your existing windows partition to a size that is no smaller than what it is currently using
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: what it I wanted to partition it in half? 50/50
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: hit the windows key and type in diskmgmt.msc.  Right click your volume and shrink it
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: You'd have to have the windows partition be half empty in order to shrink it in half.  It would let you shrink it over viable data
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: click C: and click shrink volume?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rexyl nods.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: The biggest danger in partitioning it 50/50 is making sure you install Ubuntu onto the blank partition instead of the one that contains your Windows volume.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: defrag first, IMO
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: ok so i allready have a recover partition. can I use this to split it into 3 partions?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: You can have as many partitions as you wish.  You won't want to modify your recovery partition.  It likely contains all the windows drivers for your machine in case you need to blow away Windows.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Also don't delete the boot partition
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Just split your C drive and don't touch the others.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: size before shrink 462803 - size of availible shrink space 220061 - enter the amount of space to shrink =  what should i make this number?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: something decent enough to run ubunto but leaves me some room on win
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: half of 220061?
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: That is the max you can shrink the drive which would result in your have nearly no free space available for your Windows partition.  It depends what you want to do on Ubuntu.  You could give Ubuntu 50GB now and see if you need more down the road
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Ubuntu needs a minimum of 5GB of storage.
T3/r7/2016-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duels Tech: ok so how much would I shrink it to make 30gigs avail for ubunto?
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: How would a person make a mapper cexit wait for areas such as Umari where the teleport is just short of instant?
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: put a (wait)1 in there
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: command 1;wait(1);command 2
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nooobody Cares Tech: yeah what gorsk said, i have a fever
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: is there a way to prevent 'inactivity' logout from webpages?
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Araceli Citlalin Tech: e.g. any addons I can install in my browser for it?
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trepid Tech: I have a question about how a screen reader might read something for the visually impaired.
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: xcp 1
T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rake Tech: ignore me :p