T3/r7/2016-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'fyi from the other week my friend went to new mexico and t3rminated'
T3/r7/2016-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'and, hes a wreck'
T3/r7/2016-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Lili says 'Welcome to Aardwolf,' in a friendly way.
T3/r7/2016-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Chimamatl Lili Teoyaomqui just joined Xunti.  Wonder who she was before..
T3/r7/2016-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Juanito: '"Hillary Clinton was not put under oath and there is no transcript of her interview with the FBI, Director James Comey told Congress on Thursday."'
T3/r7/2016-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Juanito: 'USA! USA!'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"The Daily Show with Trevor Noah" (2016G07) and "Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore" (2016G07) were slightly entertaining yesterday & today '
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'G=July (yyyymdd - condensed sortable month: A=January, B=February, ..., K=November L=December)'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Comedy Central cable-channels are slightly different to when "Jon Stewart" and "Stephen Colbert" provided the "news"'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton - which is the better choice (or the least worst choice)'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Donald Trump is outspoken and speaks the ambivalent truth '
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Mitt Romney spoke like a weathervane in the 2012 election, - not the same though'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Donald Trump looks as though slightly senile, as though walking in the footsteps of (senile) Ronald Reagan'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'unless Donald Trump was merely slightly tired when looking very slightly senile'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if Hilary Clinton spoke like Donald Trump ---> experienced youth with outspoken rightwing redneck opinions'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is too much "leftwing erroneous political-correctness" in the Democratic platform'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is not enough "decent fairplay compassion for the nonrich majority" in the Republican platform'
T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So ... my city is rumored to have a plan to redefine residential housing. They posted a public hearing notice, and I asked my Aldermen what is driving this. One has so far ignored me, the other told me she has no idea, that the common council has not been informed of a public hearing.'
T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Trump... Rally... Hurt... Brain'
T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Our system was rigged, too. Except for one thing. If you win by landslides every week, it's no longer rigged.'
T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Why am I not surprised Zade likes Trump...'
T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'The guy yells into the microphone about how Hillary yells into the microphone and is hard to listen to... geez.'
T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So the Sun has a shit ton of pictures of the Nice attack. Those motherfuckers.'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'hmm'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'coup in Turkey?'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'perhaps'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'looks like chaos in Turkey.'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'isn't there a 'day of rage' planned for American cities today?'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Not that I know about.  I may not be aware.'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'day of rage by muslims?'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gallen: 'supposedly to protest police shootings'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'I don't know I see a lot about how the police and DoD are prepairing for this day, but nothing about an actual thing'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'anybody have any idea what the people leading the coup want?'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'the army is secularised and erdogans regime is not. I assume they do not like the religious path that erdogan is steering the country towards.'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'only assumptions from me'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'thank you '
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Might also have something to do with the AKP getting voted into the minority last year and Erdogen just calling a special election to get power back immediately.'
T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'they just said on CNN that Erdogan's approval rate is only 48% and falling, the next president of the US can only dream of reaching 48%.'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if the universe is infinite and contains the same stuff same amount everywhere, will it start to repeat itself?'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the universe is finite.'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'No it's not.'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'anyones grasp of the universe is finite  .. ergo "the universe" as anyone says it is finite  '
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its possible to write down a number that is bigger than all the possible particle combos in our current bubble'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sure, the number of particles in the universe is finite.'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'but. will it start to repeat itself at some point IF it is infinite?'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I've seen estimates that the number of electrons in the universe is around 10^85. Don't quote me on that.'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: '95% of stats are pulled from the 1% of the person quoting em  :P'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'while 10^85 is a big number, it's really not that big when you start getting into big numberness :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: '4^^3 = 4^256 is a bit bigger :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Doesn't matter.  According to Elon Musk, we are all in a virtual reality.'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Taeryn is Morpheus  .. take the red pill '
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: '"virtual reality" is an oxymoron.'
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'all reality is virtual  '
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'by the time the brain has given the experience it has already gone through several filtering processes  .. therefore it is not reality  . only  virtual '
T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'only the numbers cannt lie  .. '
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i just saw "inception". cant understand why they had to choose to fuck up the ending'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'it was deliberately ambiguous'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Why not? :P'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when the thingy would have dropped, it would have been "good job, back to mudding" instead coming here'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Filtered reality is still reality. #lateretort'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'dunno how people see the world. i've only felt a few times that it's really real'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Spicy food helps.'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal :)
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'blade runner 2 - will it suck? think hard, cuz your answer gets logged'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'It doesn't matter, I probably won't get around to watching it.'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why?'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Lazy, and/or no time.'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'Blade Runner was a seminal sci-fi movie'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'it introduced important themes into the popular movie scene'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'now. that i agree very much, Vost. but those new movies got it wrong'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'since then, those themes have been "copied" (homage) repeatedly'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'so it is hard to see a sequel being as innovative'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'by the way, Blade Runner is my favourite movie ever'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I might get around to watching it at some point.'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'see, those accessories and weird things.. and weirdos - they all were there because they had a reason to be there. '
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'new scifi just puts those things as decorations'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'most modern sci-fi movies are action entertainment'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'Blade Runner explored important existential questions'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'as well as being a hard-boiled action detective story'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'yeah. but it has been explored soooo much after that'
T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Vost nods at __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal.
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'okay here is a fun game, name the four candidates for President of the US as four characters from the same book/series. I'll start'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Lord Voldemort (Trump), Delores Umbridge (Clinton), Pomona Sprout (Stein), Severus Snape (Johnson).'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Erin (Trump) Annie (Clinton) Erwin (Stein) Mikasa (Johnson)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'From Attack on Titan.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'ahh cool don't know that series, will have to check with my ex.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'glad at least one person responded :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Its also on netflix. :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I thought it was an anime comic book series?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'It is.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Alzar: 'It's a manga and anime.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'But its also a anime tv series.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'gotcha'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I'll have to check it out :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I just saw an article that responded to the voting for the lesser evil quip with okay so you are going to vote for Voldermort because you don't like Umbridge (or vice versa)?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and it just sort of clicked for me, because Stein is so Professor Sprout, brilliant in her field, and probably knows how to fix the planet, but I am not sure how good she would be at running the school much less the country, and Johnson is Snape, everyone hates him because he used to be a Death Eater, and he is cruel, but he is really the most noble of the entire lot.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and yes Republicans are Death Eaters :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Metropolis gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I like trump'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Trump is cool...'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and Democrats are the Ministry of Magic (as exemplified by Umbridge and Fudge)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'no he really isn't'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'he is a tool.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'He will make america great again!'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'he might actually'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Id bet my life on it.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'but I thought back in 2000 if the clown GWB got elected it would shock the country into getting more serious about their politicians, and that clearly didn't work.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'oh you are serious?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Mhm.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you actually think he would be good for the country? not good compared to Clinton, but good compared to anyone?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I do.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emm comforts Metropolis.
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I feel so bad for you right now.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Who else to lead our country? Clinton?!'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you have read the harry potter series right?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I think my assignments give a pretty clear indication of who I think should lead the country'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'yes'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and it definitely isn't Delores Umbridge'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'All hail lord voldy!'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Severus Snape for President!'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Voldemort probably would make the country great again, for purebloods.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Meh. Includes me.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Jk!'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'that makes you a Death Eater :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'enjoy watching the world burn.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I think trump is going to be great. And it doesnt matter who you think is good. Trump is going to win anyways. :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I mean, really as long as you are okay with voting for Voldemort, more power to you.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I trust Nate Silver to predict these things, so far he is saying 20% chance, 25% at best.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'it might be more impressive if this was based on proposed policies, rather than fiction'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Silver, of course, correctly predicted that Trump would win the primaries..'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I think the analogies actually hold up pretty well Tinada :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'You don't need to make my point for me, really.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'no one predicted Trump would win the primaries'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I did.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'just like no one predicted the 2008 financial crisis'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'actually no a bunch of people predicted that'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada grins evilly.
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'same for Trump'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I know at least 10 fairly well respected economists who had been screaming about it for a few years.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I literally am incapable of understanding why anyone would want Trump to be President, except in comparison to Clinton.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I mean really it just doesn't make any sense to me.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and I have had a few people try to explain it to me'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'do you think he isn't releasing his taxes because he doesn't want people to get jealous of how much money he makes?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I think hes going to be a great president.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'He is probably embarrassed that he doesn't have it all organized like a giant slush fund in the form of a foundation..'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Clinton lovers...'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I hate Clinton'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'At this point its only Clinton Or Trump. PICK ONEE.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I don't hate Trump, I just think he is a baffoon.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Nobody else really has a chance :P'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'False'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and irrelevant'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Really?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I digress.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I don't see this issue with giving out tax information. Hardly anyone voluntarily pays more taxes than they need to, so all it shows is what your sources of income are, and whether you are competent at dealing with the system.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Of course, approximately 0% of journalists and normal people understand this or have significant knowledge of the tax system'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Its a federal offense. She should be jailed for it!'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the tax information thing is every presidential canidate since Nixon has released them'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Mischan.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'in Trumps case I am pretty sure it would show that he is an enormous liar'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'But clinton is gonne be jailed. Or if she is elected, impeached.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'because he is not really worth anywhere near 10 billion dollars.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'You cant show that. Its not true.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Only thing i think he lied about is being a christian.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm just saying there's no real point. You can release tax information back to the days of the early mesopotamian empires and people still won't have much of a clue as to what the numbers mean.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the point is that it lets the experts see where the candidate makes their money from'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Metropolis wishes everyone a good night, or just mistyped "note" again.
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Is the taxable wealth based on an equity-adjusted valuation of privately held real estate?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'If not, it won't tell you much about someone's wealth.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'in Hillary's case it showed that she makes a lot of money from Wall Street giving speeches.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you clearly haven't dealt with very many wealthy peoples tax return information'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Night yall.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'later.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Given that Trump's wealth is in the form of shares in corporations, and that the tax and accounting info for the corporations is known, what more will you learn from his personal returns?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada reads Metropolis a story and tucks her into bed with a kiss.
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I have a law degree, with specialization in tax law.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'actually only publicly held corporations have to file public records'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Ditto.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'IU Class of 2010.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): *Yay!*  Go Emm!!!  Tinada cheers her on.
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'anyway, Trump might win, I don't think it will be the end of the Republic, Clinton probably will win, and I don't think that will be the end of the Republic either.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I honestly don't care which of them wins because they are both horrible canidates'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'my vote is important to me because it is one small way I can tell the powers that be that their picks for this job absolutely suck.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I really do hate Clinton, but its for personal reasons, not really relevant to her likely behavior as President'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'she basically caused the death of a good friend of mine.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and if the rumors I heard about Trump basically trying to farm off most of the job of actually governing to his VP pick, then I think he probably will do less damage to the country than Clinton.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'because Pence is a terrible human being, but he has a good head on his shoulders when it comes to economics.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'There are three major issues to deal with in current (western) politics: The environment, demograpics and the economic system.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'In this, as in most previous elections, major party candidates don't offer you much of a choice on the first issue. On the second, there is, for once, a major difference, unless you believe that one or both of the candidates is lying. '
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'On the third, there didn't seem to be much difference, but recently Trump has been moving toward more protectionism and restrictions on financial institutions. So, if you assume that the candidates, once elected, do what they say they will do, the likely difference in outcomes is rather larger than usual.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada comforts Emm.
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I disagree with your issues, or at least I think I do since I have no clue what "demographic" issues are.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'as for them lying, my baysian prior for that is 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'for both'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'honestly I don't think that anything either of them has SAID tells us the least bit about what they are likely to do.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Clinton has shown that she will say anything to get elected, and Trump has shown that he will just say anything.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'https://www.theodysseyonline.com/voting-third-party-not-wasted-vote'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'that is all.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'good night.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'ding* It's the LORD Noah'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'riiight'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Am I on Candid Camera?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'yes'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'These things can only happen once in a lifetime'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Any chance that Sanders fights for a floor vote considering that the DNC leadership was colluding against him the entire primary season?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'no'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'he's going to let them sink themselves'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Think he's planning on 2020?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He should once the Clinton Cash documentary is watched.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I doubt it, he's kinda old for 2020'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'but the damage is bad'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and if wikileaks dumps more today or tomorrow.. oooh boy'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Between the documentary dropped today and wikileaks the other day, Democrats are going to be hard pressed to gain any sort of momentum forward.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Think anyone other than Republicans are watching that documentary?'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'It was obvious to anyone who liked Bernie, the deck was stacked against him by the DNC from day 1 with the superdelegates, this is just the proof'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'that's why i wonder if he stages a floor rebellion considering that once the delegates are unbound him and hillary start at only a 200 vote gap.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Not sure who all is watching it.  I did, but I'm not a Republican.  It is up to 17.5k views so far.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'Michael Moore thinks Trump is going to win'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'because Bernie fans are pissed at Clinton'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and the DNC'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and this confirmation just seals the coffin'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'lots of Bernie people will not be voting at all'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Moore is an idiot tho... he is a relic at this point'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'Moore is also trying to light a fire under Dems, because he knows that Clinton is in trouble'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and he doesn't even like Clinton'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I think the fear of trump will unite the dems enough to pull it off'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I personally don't think I can bear to vote for either of them, they are both godawful'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'too late for Dems to unite'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'at this point Hillary can only hope that there is no more bad stuff'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'but with more to come from wikileaks, that's not likely'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Trump hasn't even starting talking trash about her.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Gary Johnson is doing well within Nevada.  Granted, it is only one state, but it is enough to get attention to him.  Jill Stien is gaining popularity within former Bernie followers.  It isn't over, but it is getting more convoluted.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'the debates are going to be exciting'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'they each have so much ammo'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'it's going to be a dumpster fire'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'with bodies? those are the best.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'it'll be interesting to see how well Hillary maintains her composure'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'because ultimately Trump isn't afraid of getting dirty, or taking low blows'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'her best strategy is to play the victim card if he targets her'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: '"women are always under attack"'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The real fun will come because of the electoral college and if one of the candidates doesn't get enough electoral votes, then the House of Representatives makes the call and votes be damned.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I don't see that happening, but it would be exciting to watch'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I think there is a decent chance it could.  Certainly not a guarantee.'
T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Well considering that so many people are pissed, and so many people might go 3rd, congress might end up just voting however it wants without any regard.'
T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Whats more important about a person? Their hair or their clothes?'
T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Whats more important about a person? Their hair or their clothes?'
T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Clothes are easier to change.'
T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Heh. True.'
T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Fire, water, or grass?'
T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'omg they are still going on about this equal pay for equal work bullshit.. women actually make MORE in a lot of fields these days due to getting promoted..stop quoting a fucking study that took all men and all women regardless of title. I mean a stock boy doesn't avarage $1000/hour because the CEO is tied into him!!!! /rage'
T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'By god can we not learn? Not dump Trump, not no to Trump. Absolutely no way in hell Trump! You want this again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts'
T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Maybe yes to no?'
T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Arnica pastes his truck with Yes to No! stickers
T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You know when someone tells you everyone is racist and has implicit bias, and you're a dick and send them one of those no one is born racist, it's learned memes to be fucking wanker ... yeah I just did that, I feel so awesomely righteous right now.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'anybody noticed how china's president can say to taiwans president, 'blood is thicker than politics' but if a white european leader said that he would be labelled adolf hitler?  though the western news praises this peaceful gesture by china..'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i notice things like that, they're hypocritical, racism is ok so long as you're not white'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'maybe donald trump will make politics make sense again?  a good asshole is better than a bad actor'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'dumping this on debate to keep it off imm: Trump calling on Russia to hack Hillary's e-mails. has any major political candidate ever openly called for a foreign power to attack a political opponent to improve his chances of being elected? this shit is silly.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Openly?  I don't think it has.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'probably because it's already in the public that russhar has hacked hillary's emails trump mentioned it, i doubt some covert double agent would be running for president while openly asking for the assistance of a foreign intelligence agency'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'nobody's saying he's a double agent, though I'd bet those tax returns would show some debt involving Russia.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'the amount of donations saudi arabia has given to obama and other political people is no different, except they don't mention them'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that's a GOP conspiracy theory.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'this narrative is important to distract from the fact that Hillary thought she was above the law'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and the DNC does shady stuff'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'various Middle Eastern countries donated to the Clinton charity prior to her becoming SoS'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'none of that matters though:: RUSSIA!!!!'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Foreign entities aren't allowed to give money to campaigns.  They can give them to foundations of said candidates.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'not while they work for the federal government'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Please provide evidence that Hillary Clinton is not above the law..'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada grins evilly.
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'They certainly can if the person who is in the employ of the government hands over control for that duration.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm wondering though. Let's say you're Putin/Russia. Why would you have your hackers leave so obvious signs of being Russian?'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'who says they did it on purpose? it was attributed to "Guccifer 2.0"'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm going to assume that hackers paid by intelligence services get 2 hours of intelligence etiquette, including the part where it's best not to be discovered.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'so maybe they are smart enough to use whatever funny tricks there are to look French instead.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I can accept that it's not 100% certain that Russia was behind the DNC hack. but I'd say that's the most likely culprit.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'Yuri Bezmenov's interview on youtube is my favourite about what it's like to work for the KGB/etc, i noticed that Pierre Trudeau's son was named by the Ambassador of Russia to Canada..'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I don't care who released the emails.. I'm glad we got to see what really happens in the background'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'this Russia narrative is important, so that the media can focus on it if Hillary's emails show up'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'we know that Trump gets money from Russia/China because he can't get funding from US banks any more and is the first modern presidential candidate to not release his tax returns. he's claimed multiple times to have met and spoken with Putin and have a good relationship with him, but now denies that. but apparently that's no big deal.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the DNC e-mails didn't show any new information.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'nope, they just confirmed everything'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '"everything"?'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'everybody knew the DNC was shady'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'you said they didn't show any new information. you're right, they confirmed everything that was already known. that's what I meant by "everything"'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that the DNC preferred Hillary to Bernie? I don't get why that's earthshattering information.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'According to Forbes, most of Trump's investments are (1) in central locations and (2) have rather low debt levels, so why wouldn't any and all banks be happy to lend to his corporations?'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i think political dynasties are all suspicious (:, kennedy's, trudeau's, roosevelt's, bush's, clinton's, all pretty odd'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'this is slowly turning into a clusterfuck, so final point: Hillary's corruption is being vastly overstated and Trump's is being vastly understated. non-profit with Clinton's name received a donation from Saudi Arabia over a decade ago? she's an agent of the Muslim brotherhood! Trump calls on Russia to cyber attack a US politician? yeah! let's see those e-mails! woo go Russia!'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'if you live in a democracy with a pool of 320 million equal opportunity individuals, what are the odds that dear leader will be the direct relative of the last dear leader?'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the ideal outcome here is for Hillary to win, then lose to a democratic primary challenger in 2020.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'unless you hate Muslims and immigrants more than you like your 401k. then by all means vote Trump. peace.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Slowly is not the word I would use.  Perhaps about 6 months ago slowly would be apt, but now it seems to be careening out of control towards a non-lubricated clusterfuck.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'michael milken and neil bush is an interesting study (:, apparently under george bush sr. they scammed hundreds of millions of dollars out of american's in the 1980's'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'it never tarnished the political reputation of the bush family though, it seems nobody thinks much about it - where say, if you were to have a cousin who did that, you might as well retire from life'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'imo immigration , especially in europe , is out of control - and political correctness ferments rage within the public, who now sees trump as their only hope'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'it's not like people are dying because of immigrants.'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'in the gospel is written, be not like the hypocrites who pray in public to be seen of by others as praying, but pray in secret - so here's the gospel promoting people practice relgion on their own - all of the political decisions directed around people's religions is gotten out of hand'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'you'd almost think muslims were a race, but if you talk to somebody who hears angels that speak for a good they cannot see, you're pretty sure they're insane'
T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'angels > science'
T3/r7/2016-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2016-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I have some problems matching Sanders leaving the party again to his recent behaviour.'
T3/r7/2016-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He did what now?'
T3/r7/2016-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Sanders announced earlier today that he was leaving the party to become independent again'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'In your opinion, is this MUD Progressive (in the US sense of that term)? I believe that it is.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'anti-NATO Trump said that Putin/Russia wouldn't annex Crimea. whew. it's okay now guys.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'And you had doubts.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '2014 news?'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'nope. today.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Trump had no idea that Russia annexed Crimea two years ago.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'If they renamed the area to Trumplandia he would have more of an interest.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '2/3 of the population was Russian, I'm sure I would have annexed it too.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I would argue that supporting annexation of Crimea is an objectively bad position for a presidential candidate to take, but that's not even the point. he had no idea Russia annexed part of Ukraine two years ago.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Someone should tell him what happened to the Berlin wall so as to not make the same mistake.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'on the former point: I'm sure there are parts of the US South that would vote overwhelmingly to become part of Mexico. would that make it okay for the Mexican military to come in and say, "this is ours now."?'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gashik: 'it was the people's choice'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Given current trends, it would be rather surprising if some sort of breakup of the US doesn't happen.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but...again, that's a legitimate political debate where one can use facts and logic to support either side. that's fine. wanting to be the leader of the most powerful country and military on Earth and NOT KNOWING about major international events that happened super recently? bizarre.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm sure he can find some advisors to know those things'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I fully understand not wanting to vote for Clinton. I have no idea how someone would justify voting for Trump.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Preferably advisors who disagree with eachother..'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Method > supposed answers'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that the mental gymnastics you use to justify it?'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I am Norwegian, so I don't vote in US elections.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Lucky you.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'good :p don't support right-wing demagogues there either though plz.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'eh..we need moderate nationalists to win all over the place'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Because the otherwise the next generation of nationalists will win, and they won't be moderate.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'see: history'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'how would you definte "moderate nationalist"? doesn't one have to be a "moderate nationalist" to be a politician/public servant in the first place?'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'That depends on which country we are talking about. In US politics, not so much.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I'm having a hard time picturing nationalism without xenophobia or jingoism'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'what's the issue with nationalism?  this is your country and you disagree'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'i'm not proud of being here, that's an insult'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'nationalism in the US seems to mean thinking that everything the government or media says is a lie.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'also seems very closely related to white supremacy'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'in europe, it seems that the european union started to become the nation that great britain used to be, and nationalism is what separated them'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'trump's dislike of nato and the united nations might not be unfounded :)'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I think people are emotional creatures prone to knee jerk reactions to specific situations. it doesn't matter that you're more likely to die by lightning than be killed in a terrorist attack, we need to start monitoring or banning religions. it doesn't matter that immigration improves our economy and our lives, immigrants are dangerous and scary and we need to send the military into people's homes to remove them.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'turkey sure causes europe alot of trouble through immigration policy's'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'people forget that the EU/UN was a direct response to WWI/WWII. most people alive now weren't alive when that happened and don't understand the consequence of blind nationalism.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'well...everything the media says is a lie? at least as a heuristic, that seems to work well enough'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'post-WWII, the developed world was split into communist and capitalist. the capitalists tore down walls, tore down trade barriers, and achieved economic prosperity. the communists built walls to keep everyone else out and collapsed in on themselves.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Most people have a hard time dealing with local ethnic fractionalization without distrust and all that distrust leads to. "Multiculturalism and peace" is not a more realistic option than "nationalism without in-group preferences".'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'now the republicans, formerly known as the party of the constitution and economy without government control, wants to tear up trade agreements and treaties over xenophobia and jingoism.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gashik: 'or helped them to collapse'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'we have multiculturalism and peace. people pretend we don't. anyway, I'm out.'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Yea !'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'breaking news !!!'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: '?'
T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'good news i hope'