T3/r7/2016-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'someone needs to make a char called Stefoknee' T3/r7/2016-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'BEN GHAZI' T3/r7/2016-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'should i, or should i not, debate something?' T3/r7/2016-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'nope' T3/r7/2016-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'should too.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Ahem!' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Buffy Anne peers intently at Avram. T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'shhh!!!' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'a bit early, the debate isnt until 3 hours from now =-b' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'I sympathise Hillary' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'why?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'shes scum' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'She will be indicted soon' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'She is only woman alongside the candidates. And she got a Clinton's connection and grasps' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'the debate is on fox business which should prevent a lot of people from seeing it.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'whether or not a female runs does not concern me' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'what does is how many qualified woman have been over looked and pushed aside for people like hillary' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'More importantly - she don't get ballistic on congress,try to lobby some tricky things like gun ban' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'well you see americans arent worried about a gun ban' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'You think americans arent worried about it? then why have gun sales spiked hard?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Buffy Anne laughs out loud. T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'they are more worried about what will happen during a grab' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'basically civil war' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'the guns wont be taken easily, that much is sure' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'as for the actual ban thats nothing. its what it will cause that worries' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'nope. the main concern - gun ban and rise of racism,fueled by Trump' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no worries. trump's actual reason for running is to make the democrats look better. well, his primary reason - also to suck away votes from the other republicans.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'well yes there are many racists coming into the country' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScubaSteve: 'I wish that were true...' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'with those refugee's ruffians and rapers,there is already fear and upheaval brewing in Europe' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its racist to move to a country en masse and attempt to hijack the culture' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'according to obama they are all lovely and fun that are coming in though Kappa' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'but there is people who try to run from war,too !' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'true there are' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'I'd run from american bombs too' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Buffy Anne ruffles Wanpo's hair playfully. T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'You mean russian bombs right?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'and french' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'no' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'i mean obama imo made the problem' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'immigration is his solution' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'Thats because he loves taking out stable dictators and letting the muslim brotherhood and isis take over' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'russia i believe is there for self preservation ' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'for oil' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'Oil price crash is screwing russia yeah' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'they are seriously screwed at this price' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'their whole budget was for 80 bucks a barrel' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'as does usa' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'minimum' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'so the bombs they drop won't be on doctors without borders' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'yeah because america intentionally does that *roll' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'it'll be on doctors with hijabs moohahaha' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Buffy Anne laughs out loud. T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'we intentinally voted obama in if that tells you anything' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'it is a catfight for oil,but main traders STILL not USA or Russia' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'I certainly didnt' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'my.mistake was not voting' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'obama does make a good communist. it took mao five years with his five year plan to bring his country war famine and massive death' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'obama did nothing but try to gain trust the first four. its only his last term that hes been working hhard' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'and next USA leader also decide - how does long term relations with Russia goes,as well as for all those European troubles and Ukrainian concerns' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'so with that you have a man catapulted into his position with a five year plan...' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'avram: another reason hillary is a horrible, horrible choice' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'versus a man who got voted in and fucks up everything in four' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'a man in USA presidency press on a warfare and increase tension immensily instead,doesn't you think so ?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'I have no idea what you just said' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'i mean ' a MAN, not a WOMAN as a president'' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '(those damned tricky words !)' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'well i wont be sexist so we will look at hillary in that position' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'war (man)' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'mass castration and emasculation (hillary )' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'Well islamists already force clitorectomies so I mean, not a bit step :b' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'then congress quickly throw her out' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Buffy Anne stands around with a six pack, a flannel and a BIG GUN! T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'how about a compromise. we can have the first woman president and still have a man when we need him.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'we can elect chaz bono ' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Hmm. Sanders ?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'what would you call her husband then? first gentleman?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'Less socialism please' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'aawkwaaaard' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'smiles and holds her hand.. that'd be soo weird' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you think thats awkward? try 'first lord'...' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Let's vote for Hillary - maybe she can do some good for country,like queen in England. Not to mention first woman-president - it is an experience' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'eh, there is merkel. think she is doing it all well and good?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'i mean,an experimental' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'well chaz would get my vote. looks like chris christie so that would make some other voters happy as well' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'voting for a candidate on the basis of their gender is just as -ist as voting for one based on his race...' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'exactly we need someone in transition' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Angela got a chance,and so she does by now - solve refugee problem and she will be hero(ine)!' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'by that logic only sexless people should run' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i wonder how much we could accomplish by going write-in? it worked for monty brewster...' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal flashes the scissors T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'let the AI command whole country :O' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ai? ai would go "do best for all man kind.. pufff"' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'but then there is a congress. does it ???' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'no more suffering' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i would vote for ultron.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Let's vote for MICROSOFT' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'free updates for everyone!' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ive seen how that free updates platform performs - we would be better off with typewriters.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'we need maury to read the results...' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'hillary you are not the president but you are indeed the father' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'maybe if somebody give such idea to Bill Gates...in coming November election...' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'he's too busy on humanitarian missions molesting and sterilizing third world countries' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'What think of Sanders ?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'hes bob dole 2.0' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: 'I dont know about sanders but I have a feeling he might win.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'sadly your probably right' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'of course even if everyone voted elections can and have been rigged' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Trump,with his idea of internment american camps got a chance,too' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: '2nd bush realection' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'so really it makes no difference. even then tthere is the electoral college' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'do you think they would let trump have it even with the popular vote?' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'people afraid,and fear does' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: 'Trumps a distraction if he actually somehow wins Im moving to Canada ehh' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: 'I like Rand Paul but he doesnt stand a chance because of his father shadow' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'ya rand would have been nice' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'but forced to agree with ya there too' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'anyone with sense is preparing for after the election' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'excuse me,i got to go, RL' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its probably civil war no matter what' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: 'He is a less extreme version of his dad. He is better on talkin issues without sounding crazy to dumb people' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: 'Yea well gears on that kinda shit are allready turing with all the anit-gun BS and false flags. People are slowly waking up' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'even if people don't want it the more violent immigrants will force it like they have been ' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'theres no self defense where i live btw' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'so if someone attacks you the likelihood of being charged is high' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: 'I firmly believe that San Bernido or however its spelled was deff a false flag.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'my wife agreed that wasnt a female accomplice' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'that was a man with cia training' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'and an ugly one at that' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: 'Somehow 3 white men turned into a muslim couple that was killed before any information could be gained' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Star - Wars: 'its like real life magic' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'they are getting sloppy with the false flags for sure' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'I think obama still smokes crack btw' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'his eyes get dilated and all hyper focused and he sweats like a crack head too lol' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'http://m.memegenerator.net/instance/31914007' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm going to take a shot everytime they say the economy is bad tonight, lets get drunk' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'you will die' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'or be dead sober' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'lols' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'id say the economy is the same. for 10 years now' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'kinda shitty but not too bad' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'aye. they just can't hide it anymore' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah, i tend to agree' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you have to "unskew" them to get the "real" number' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'if it wasn't for us meddling kids and that damn internet think' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'thing not think' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i love how people say that hilary used her private email to sell our deepest darkest secrets..and like its been 9 months and nothing has come out yet..' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'its not just private email' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'she had her own server' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'colin powell..' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'computer analysts can take years' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'that and they probably want her noose to be nice and tight so she can't slip out' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'maybe' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'she does seem simley, i dont like her..i just dont think what she did was wrong to the porption they make it' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm still hoping some random dem will come out..but they dont seem to have anybody' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'strange isn't it' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'how the dems have virtually isolated themselves' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'It is not that they don't have anyone else, it is that they are being supressed to get Hillary in.' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'oh..shit. world goverment yo' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'but they still have obama and his propaganda on their side' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'it's what they are relying on. yet they forget the news is about ratings not truth nor spin entirely' T3/r7/2016-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wanpo: 'so if the people demand it they will deliver even if it becomes contradictory' T3/r7/2016-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'hmmm, the US federal reserve made a profit of $97 billion in 2015....' T3/r7/2016-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, I love coal.....' T3/r7/2016-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wigbert: 'A wombat named Bernie trundles along here, looking irritated. Is this guy still in the race?' T3/r7/2016-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'was he ever' T3/r7/2016-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zarlothius: 'Hrmm navi or sorc' T3/r7/2016-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom get a job! or dont. work sucks.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I just realized there's a good reason for Trump to pick Mattis.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'Trump does anything for a GOOD reason?' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '..apart from the similarity in belief systems and so on: It would be marvellous life insurance as enemies contemplate president Mattis.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'He's kind of looked down upon from this side of the pond..' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'defining "good" for Trump might make my head explode.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I meant good as in functional, not saintly' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'I'm still not entirely convinced, given the Clinton and Trump family connections, that he's not running to sabotage the GOP as a favor for Hillary Clinton and just being crazy because it's fun and effective.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, backfired, he's winning :P' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'oh, he could fix that easily. hillary will still be our president, though I don't much like her' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'that is the point, he has to win the GOP primare to seal the DNC eventual win.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I don't think he could even fix that' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'I'm not sure any of the other GOPers would do better than Trump would vs. Hillary' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the worse things he says, the higher his numbers' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm still waiting for the timing of the releases/focus on Clinton's health problems, but that is a different story, and probably won't happen until midway through the general election campaign' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I dunno that he could throw it if he wanted to' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'He could call himself a socialist' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'that seems to make people not want to vote for you' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'He could sexually violate a statue of Ronald Reagan on live national tv.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'From my point of view, it's easy enough. Trump is much better at convincing the herd, so it will take something unusual for him not to win.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'heck, I'm taking notes and applying it at work' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'Droki, you have a vivid imagination' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'I told you what he could do to sabotage his presidency. Tell me it wouldn't work.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'in the 90s he did say he was in favor of universal healthcare, so socialist isn't out of the equation' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'didn't say anything of the sort, just felt that the level of creativity needed noting' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'He's been an outspoken democrat and pro-choice his entire life until like a year and a half ago' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I don't know that universal healthcare is any mr' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'His daughter and Hill's daughter are best friends. It's all a scam. He's a democrat mole.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '..more socialist than universal school coverage etc., it's just an overused word' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'the US health care system is rediculously ineffecient, as far as I can judge' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'compared to what?' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'the NHS' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'other western nations' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mique: 'pretty much yes but better then mexico. YOu go into a hospital there and they find you have no insureance they can and do put you out on the sidewalk, irregardless of your condition' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, it's not a "system"...' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'Any non third world country.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'on average..it's like twice as expensive, and health indicators aren't amazing' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'Yeah, but Mique, Mexico is third world now :p' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'growing up in a border town, we had plenty of canadians coming down here and paying for healthcare rather than using ontario's...' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'scandinavian/western european systems have universal coverage (paid with taxes) and cost about half as much in terms of gdp' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'thats funny i had the opposite experience living on the canadian border, i had friends with dual citizenship who went to canada to go to the dr :P' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'I have to fly to Stanford for medical care because nobody in Vegas can deal with my issue. It is absurdly expensive for my insurance company, which means my rates and yours continue to rise.' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'So don't worry, the costs can only go up!' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'nothing special there, we (Norway) also have a small but thriving industry of private health care centres etc. for the well-to-do and so on, you just have to consider which kind of people cross which border' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'I guess a better question is, what does efficiency mean? Some would say long waits to see a doctor is efficient because it means doctors have high work loads and you get more out of them, others would say short waits to see a doctor is efficient because conditions are caught earlier when they are cheaper to treat...' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'the simple starting point is: the us system is far more expensive and the people don't live longer and healthier lives, so something is "wrong"' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for wait times, it would depend on what you're waiting for...' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, the primary thing wrong has nothing to do with the healthcare system...' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mique: 'yet they keep coming and coming and coming, must be for the chance to gaze on my beauty' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'it could be that Americans are "bad" (genes, behaviour), or it could be that the system is "bad" (distribution, organization, priorities, whatever)' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '"the people don't live healthier lives" isn't to do with the system' T3/r7/2016-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'I mean in general, in systems that are more or less universal coverage, wait times trend longer over time, accross the spectrum, as doctors are less incentivised to be time or cost efficient, and patients are less incentivised to try to avoid doctor visits.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'is obama the worst of all time or just this decade?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you could say that he's the best of this decade...' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'sorry, i only watch fox news.. nothing is good..ever' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'He's the only president this decade, and a pretty decent president. Nixon is the worst.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'how can anyone asks if Obama is a bad president after 8 years of the bush. Is your memory that short?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Faux news' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'lol aph' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'george w. will easily go down in history as the worst president the US ever had.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'my favorite president is Ike because I get to go on sweet roadtrips' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'think so? what all did he even do?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i feel like he didnt really do anything for 8 years lol' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Im 32 been through 16 years of bushes and am possibly facing 16 years of clintons... ive given up' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'your memory is short. george w. bush is a bad president, but not even close to nixon or grant' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'george w. bush was stupid. nixon was legitimately evil. like a bad movie villain' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'droki remembers grant...' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'i remember american history' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'other than the fact that he plundered the treasury and got the US into two concurrent wars, he didn't do much. Oh, well, he did collapse the capital markets in such a way that it made the crash of '29 look like a minor correction.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'For better or worse, I have investments in the stock market. Kind of forced there by the way we were herded into 401 K plans. The value dropped 50% under Bush and quadrupled under Obama (yes that is only doubled from pre-Bus, so what?) There just is no comparison.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'guess i went to high school in the US and gruagach didn't' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'from a certain perspective...' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'bush didn't destroy our markets, aphelion. the president doesn't do that.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'bush was a bad president, but the recession isn't really his fault' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'congress writes the laws that regulate bankers.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'its the fact that obama is concentrating on gun control his last year and that we continued to have false flags under his lead thats got me scared' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'No the wars the President leads us into, the deals he makes with the banks through the Fed, and the encouragement of deregulation and privitization do that' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'like the iran nuke deal?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'he allowed subpar mortgages to florish. Regan didn't dedroy the S&Ls but he did allow them to make unrecoverable loans to foreign countries.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'Don't worry Pres. Trump will save us all :-)' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so they are responsible because a word from them and the government bureaucracy stops it dead.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'He'll make America huge again' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm white, i'm not worried about pres trump' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'yo the iran nuke deal rules' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'ughe ' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'i'm all about it' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'As if people of other countries could view the US worse trump came around and now we are a laughing stock and rightfully so' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Trump will get the US involved in WWIII' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'we'll see who votes for him' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'trump isnt going to make it ' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'sanders will win' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i seriously do not know who the fuck is taking all these polls' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'we took a country that was like six months from having a nuclear weapon, disarmed them, and made them part of the global economy they'd been excluded from. when it expires in ten years iran will be so wrapped up and involved in the global economy that much like india, france, the us, whoever else, they will no longer have any motivation or desire to use a nuke' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'hahah good one droki' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'one of my neighbors has a trump - make america great again bumper sticker. she's a black female who works as a cocktail waitress at caesar's palace. i can't even comprehend it.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Now that staement has validity. Trump cannot actulally make us look worse than Bus (#1 and #2) did. The only thing that would make us look worse would be electing Bush #3.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i never heard that joke before, thats an intresting line' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so you don't think the us is motivated to use nukes, then after all the 1000s of missiles it has why does it keep stockpiling?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'trump is worse then bush' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'stockpiling is not using' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'how about the No. Koreans and their hangover free booze? +1 for them I guess.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I know a whole lot of people who are planning to vote for trump' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'iran won't want to use nukes ever once they rely on the rest of the planet to drive their rapidly growing economy' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'trump wont even get the nomination' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'nah they'll broker the gop convention to force him out' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'he'll run independent and utterly trash the gop' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that's not what I asked. Also what about this defensive shield it wants around Russia? What is the us going to do when Russia escalates?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'it will be sanders' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'no one trusts hillary' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I know people who support Cruz, who previously whinned about Obama not being American' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I bet Trump does get the nomination, and then refuses it, announcing it was all a hoax to expose the banksters and con men' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you cant win with 3% of the vote wars' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'hillary will win by a landslide. she's evil though, so it sucks, but at least she won't try to outlaw abortion since that won't help her corporate financiers make money' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'because if you think Russia is going to back down, you are living on another planet.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'i genuinely subscribe to the conspiracy theory that trump is a hillary employee' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'hillary is sick and won't make it thriugh te 4 years' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'oh she's definitely going to die within 4 years' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'especially with the stress of being a president' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'bah there is a university that has correctly called the elections for a long time they pick sanders as well' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we've elected presidents who haven't made it months...' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'but i still think she'll win and that trump is her president' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'not quite, biker, shortest ever was 30 days' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the question I have is, who the fuck is sanders? Never heard of him.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'he managed a month' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'does anyone else think hillary looks more manly then trump? ' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'droki: can you count?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that's "not months"' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'dude cant even comb his hair, he can run a country? lol' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'honestly, if you don't know who sanders is at all, you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'he doesn't have heir, that's a rug :)' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'hair*' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Wars is agreeing with that Viscount Droki person again... T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'doesnt look like a rug to me' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'i really wish we had to answer a multiple choice test about the candidates to be allowed to vote' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'its barely hair, hes like 78' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Sanders is an Epic Hero in Liberal Wars of the Independents III. Didn't you play that one?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Its a cat... controlling his brain' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you don't have to vote for any of the candidates, you can write in. If you want to protest the election write yourself in.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'mickey mouse always has a decent showing' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'spoiler alert..it doesnt fucking matter who you vote for hah' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Or write in Deez Nuts' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'don't do that it wastes the time of the good people who work at the polls' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'as long as you would qualify constitutionally, that is.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'as if it matters if you would qualify constitutionally...it'd still do just as much regardless' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'well, the point is that you might get elected :)' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, the point was to "protest the election"' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I have worked the polls during national campaigns twice. And you are right, they are good people who volunteer for those long hours.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'so..rafael, born in canada..how is that a natrual citizen' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yes, it is a protest but they are going to count the votres.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'votes*' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and 1 is still 1' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'macain was at least born on a military base' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Natural? Have you looked at the dude? Lizardian, no questian' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'unless you convince someone else to write you in and now you have 2.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'we could prob get a good 200 votes for lasher' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and that's almost an election' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: '300 for Ayla' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'i'm not wasting my vote on lasher when i can vote on bernie instead' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion goes, "Heh." T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'depends on your state, it might not even matter either way' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'mark my words bernie will take it... I wish it was rand but that will never happen because he lives in in fathers shadow' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Exactly. In a dark red or blue state, you can use your write in vote to make a statement' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i think hiliary is paying him to stay in the election..' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'And he is a permanented muppet?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I loved the fountainhead' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'make it look like a show' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Biker is seeing who's paying attention T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the fountainhead was good, unfortuantely I read it after atlas shrugged so it didn't have as much impact.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'But couldn't it have been Broadway not Ringling Bros?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'good lord i hate ayn rand' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'ayn rand is for the new intellectual :>' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'i'm going to stay old then. she sucks.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sucked' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'her novels continue to suck.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'See Ayn Rand fans are actually geo-activist, because their butts are so tight they don't waste TP' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'one thing for sure, she liked her sex rough.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'who the fuck is ayn rand?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Awrs read The Fountainhead and come back witha brief precis, say ten thousand words' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'she wrote Anthem, among others :)' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Atlas Told Everyone to F Off was a good one' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'We The Living, The Fuontainhead, Atlas Shrugged, the Virtue of Selfishness' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'The Plan to Make Everyone Poor' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'well, she was a bit out there, almost in front of the moving bus.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'but I did like Animal Farm so I am excused :)' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'thats a porno right?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'zoo porn for sure' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I loved when bluto was on a roll!' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'think I saw that one on tumblr :P' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You cross your arms and nod slowly and sagely. T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'So, single payer insurance?' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I elect Trump as the single payer' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that is as good a definition of a non sequitur as any.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'i think someone should make a pres poll at a voting booth ... most players are fairly intelligent i wonder what the outcome would be' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the word is that he has no money, if all the paper he as out ever gets called... well the results would be catastrophic.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Intelligent, yes. Serious, hmmm.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it won't get called for the same reason the US does nothing about counterfeit currency in europe :)' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'well ya... i do see clever sarcasm as a sign of intelligence' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'though I've met sarcastic dogs' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'If he has any sense at all at his age, he will have managed to discreetly tranferred all of his wealth to Ivanka, Don, and the one with no name.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'well, sure, he has done that. What's left is debt :) His debt :)' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'remember when we looked for qualities like honesty, serving your country,, being faithfull to your spouse, standing by what you say, and doing tons of public service were qualifications for being pres? ya me either' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'The bush showed what qualifications will get one elected :)' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'I knew 9/11 was an inside job before it was cool :P ' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'still isn't' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Inside job or not, it is the most improbable event in history. Professional engineers in my building were shocked that that could happen within minutes, and now we have hours and hours of professional testimony that it just could not. No one is being paid to say that.' T3/r7/2016-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'the dress was black and blue' T3/r7/2016-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'I love how people are like "hey, let's elect the worse human being alive to be the leader of the free world, he's totally not a fuckin joke or anything!"' T3/r7/2016-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: '"you're fired!" enough said...' T3/r7/2016-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'to elect a leader of the free world first you must locate the free world :)' T3/r7/2016-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no probs. the entire world is about 20 miles across, roughly circular, and centered on me.' T3/r7/2016-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and trump's job is not to lead the free world, its to suck the crazy vote away from the other republicans, so none of them can threaten hillary.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'is it legal to wear vr headset in public in France?' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure its not legal to wear anything on your head in france except a sneer and one of those flat hats.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i believe those flat hats are illegal without holding a paintbrush' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you can paint with a cigarette, non?' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'sure' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'in that case, you may be right.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'So supposedly there are hillary and trump supporters yet I cant seem to find any...' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'everytime I see a post about either 95% of the comments are negative twords both' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I know a lot of trump supporters' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'is Trump likely to run the USA like he runs his financial affairs -- and is this a compliment' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'don't know any hillary supporters though' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'is Trump likely to delegate the running of the USA to others with the option of "You're Fired!" if they fail' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'He's likely to become a totalitarian fascist crazy asshole dictator' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'cabinet members are always at risk of being fired, so yes' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'for those of you that live outside of the US isnt this election makign us look like a total joke?' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and what are the Democrat jokes' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'meh, no more than any of the others...' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'when the time comes someone will mention to Trump that is time to step away from the race... just as Ross Perot did.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'and you think he will listen?' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Perot had to listen, Trump will have to listen. Those telling them to step away are serious people.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if you liked Reagan, you may like Trump' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Trump is a celerity. Perot was not a celebrity. qed ' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'trump is a celebrity in the same sense that kim kardashian is a celebrity. ' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some Americans like to vote for celebrities. Sadly, even incompetent puppet celebrities: Reagan' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'meaning, not at all.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'ted bundy was a celebrity by those standards.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScubaSteve: 'Hey, at least Ted Bundy had a talent for something.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'his daughter kelly was hot!' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You run away in terror and horror! T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'reagan was ill in such a way that he became an advantage to some people. trump is just demented.' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i like Trump far better than any Kardashian (beware of Romulans also, and Klingons.)' T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2016-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'well, your taste in women escape me, but to each its own.' T3/r7/2016-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'they have been so close to arresting hilary for like 8 months.. wtf?' T3/r7/2016-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razeth: 'hi' T3/r7/2016-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razeth: 'noone debates here?' T3/r7/2016-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Razeth: '10' T3/r7/2016-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'you're so wrong' T3/r7/2016-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no he isnt.' T3/r7/2016-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'test' T3/r7/2016-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'this chann is no longer active ? ' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'yes it is.' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vyhn: 'I disagree!' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no you dont' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'no it is not' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, the x-files.' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nashville hot. thoughts?' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'I only went to nashville once, and I did in fact see some hotties.' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'what about nashville? hot is a pretty ubiquitous word now with many meanings' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'I live relatively close to nashville' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'TN that is' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Luclin: 'closer to knoxville if that's the nashville you're speaking of' T3/r7/2016-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hmm. i guess kfc just hasnt made it back into the zeitgeist, or something.' T3/r7/2016-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'everybody vote for Hillary Clinton !' T3/r7/2016-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'No thanks.' T3/r7/2016-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'you like our furher Trump more ?' T3/r7/2016-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'There are more than two candidates.' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'there is only one candidate. the others are there to fool folks into thinking that democracy functions.' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'Cruz wins the Rep Iowa Caucus. Dem at 49.3% Sanders/50.0% Clinton' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'with 14% left to report' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'Yep!' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'there is only one candidate. the others are there to fool folks into thinking that democracy functions.' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'im thinking about devoting an entire function key to that statement.' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'annnd, done.' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'im thinking about devoting an entire function key to that statement.' T3/r7/2016-02-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oops...' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'alcohol. does it slow time or speeds it up?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'Definitely speeds it up for your liver' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i expected to see 00:02 and saw 22:53 at the colc. ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '-5-1' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I suspect the mass of alcohol consumed could not have bent space sufficiently to affect time to that degree' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'everything going on under the influence of alcohol has more weight. that means more time' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'alcohol stupifies, so alcohol slows perception' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'einstein said that' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'more weight=more time. because mass is energy and energy is mass doing things in time. so. alcohol creates time' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'almost a "that's what einstein^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^ she said"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ok xyliz. obviously your too drunk to send a meningful message' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'my point is proven with the black hole theory. you drink too much - you create a black hole' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'nothing gets out or in' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'new topic. can you distinguiss a drunken one from a bunch of 6 scientists who are arguing about black holes?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'NO!' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"sick" is not spelt "6"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'Tell that to all the little kiddies running around the internets' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i think that the coolest observation ever (and for a long time ahead) is the stars orbiting around the milky way black hole. and that didn't even break the news:(' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'that insane object is real. its there. its not a theory anymore. ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"milkyway blackhole" - modern spelling' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Whatever. Everyone knows that god lives in the center of the milky way galaxy, and he needs you to bring him a starship.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'epic:)' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'not 1 spaceship. 130.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if that were the case, the starship(s) 'd be crushed the blackhole' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'No lifeforms detected on the planets in the center of this galaxy,sir.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the bigger the gentler the b-holes be' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'As far by now, a nature of a "black holes" remains mystery - only a scientific hypotrsises about ultragravity. But it can be just an obstruction.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the StarTrek episode, where James T Kirk travelled to the centre of the galaxy, is fraudulent' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'flatulent ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '"martian mission" is a fake' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'The Martian was one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '"best" ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'avram- the thing is obervable now' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'observable ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duoHtJpo4GY' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'that's silly. you can't observe mars.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'ah, that !' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3qSr5HmGkI' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'It is assembled from probes' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'from deep space probes - "cutted and glued". Nice' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'sorry for the 1st link:)' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Somebody meet an UFO lately close up ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'green screen based documentaries' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why bring ufos in' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Ever meet an extraterrestial persons' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'one black hole makse all phyzix topsyturvy.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'who needs ufos anymore?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'maybe it was just big cruiser obstruct your visions' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'what visions?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'of black hole. maybe it is just a shadow' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'it is' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'did you know how much increase of a hate crimes and racism can little harmless extraterrestial incite in populace ? worse than resurrection of Hitler' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'so. we have a real black hole there. it fucks things up. no one can live there. can you accept that?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'no' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'what do you do?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Just send a probe first. Maybe there is a hidden paradise' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Or just a plain "asshole"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'a black hole fuck up so much physics. its abomination' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'nothing works there. even The real McCoy lawnmower' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'so. there is a place close by where nothing works. how do you feel about it?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Hwuaijijal, you talk as though you are inebriated (and or reside in europe (not UK) or western asia) ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'true. ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'still. there are places where nothing works anymore. can you even imagine that?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'maybe it is a weekend time !' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'maybe. but! there are places in OUR universe where nothing works. not outside. INSIDE our own observable world.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'if youre travelling on podship, remember - space radiation damage all of your equipment onboard' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'slowly' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'blackholes work exactly as intended, as blackholes' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'a mysterious hole ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'pink holes are the best... ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'see. in a bit of time, all of working stuff will fall into a black hole' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'if you forgot to bolt it in places' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'but did you meet any extraterrestials - "third kind",like with handshakes and such' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why bring ufos in this sophisticated debate?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'with black holes' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'ok, ok. How much does a planet worth, do you think ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'sadly, some sci-fi was written for and or by the science-illiterate' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Maybe your forgetting what the fi stands for' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'decent sci-fi is not supposed to contradict the known laws of science, with the "fiction" part delving/conjecturing into the as yet unknown areas of science' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'my point is. we have proven b-hole there. and its not a matter of belief or opinion either. that one b-hole gets more mass all the time. theres no way it's gonna share some ever. so. even if there is that one growing b-hole, thats just enough to consume all.. in time.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'unless it evaporates' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Eureka" the tvseries is extremely bad sci-fi (a painful to view tvseries, from the perspective of the science-literate)' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'so don't go wandering too near to a blackhole' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You speculate on b-hole doom of all Universe in the end of time - with only scientific hypotesises on its gravity' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some ?scientists? conjecture the "Big Crunch" at the end of current time' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some scientists conjecture the "Big Freeze"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Not to mention nobody of those who live and ever lived thousands years after ever be alive to see that end of time' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '--- ONLY DARKNESS IS FOREVER, AND ONLY VOID IS UNLIMITED --- all other is just a temporal blasphemy' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some of the theories of Science change and are updated as more knowledge is discovered and discerned et cetera ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'in the 1960s, some ?scientists? er crackpots believed/stated that time did not exist before the "big bang" - the science-illiteracy of those parroting imbeciles was appalling ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'that shy evaporation is too slow. they have to crank up their physics to give us eternal universe' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'cranking up the physics may explain and or conjecture, but "give" is not as likely.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'thats bs' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'science illiterate humans in a petri-dish called planet earth' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Outer Limits" music plays silently in the background' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'bs because what is invitable is that any reasonably big b-hole gains more mass than emits. unless some handicapped scientist becomes bored and proves the opposite.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'btw. are we still talking about butt holes?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'as the universe expands, those blackholes drift further apart, and are maybe unable to grab more mass appreciably -- unless the universe eventually contracts, whenupon the Big Crunch' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'those butt holes still move' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the reason of accelerated expansion is a brand new thing that never existed before. thats tooo insane' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'that will stop' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'or else..' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'else the Big Freeze' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '...surrender or die' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '(you) surrender and die' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Milliways, the restaurant at the end of the universe"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'you and what army ? Pathetic terran fleshbag with beliefs of own false superiority, weighted only by numbers' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'more people likely read the books of Douglas Adams than that of Hawkings' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'you don't even got a colony on closest planet to your Terra, and still got such EGO ?!' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'humans already dumped garbage on Mars' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'dream on' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'you discuss b-holes with attitude of true immortal beings, which you are no' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'which you are not' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'your sense of future based upon your false belief in own immortality, which neither of you possess by now - either by science tech or bio' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'considering a b-holes timespan, your discussion is laughable' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'you even doesn't understand timeflow itself - always confuse it with your understanding of yours "decisional choises",which is not a chrono' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'if you like the truth, you will see death in your future' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'and even with a false beliefs of own immortality, with self-trickstery you know what is it' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"time is an abstract delusion" ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"time is an abstract illusion" ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"time is an abstract concept" ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'your understanding of "now" - just an "amnesia of future".It grant you present, but you still remember the past. It was a long way to learn chrono' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there's no need of time' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'thats the biggest blunder of all man kind' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You won't and can't escape your global chrono flow, pathetic philosophers' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Buffy Anne: 'wtf is this rp debate?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'there is no "time", only the actual "now"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'nope. thats where philosophers win - time is a made up word for something much simpler.. ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And you can't project differential chronoflow in planar space continuum either' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ORDER' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Don't worry, Hwuaijijal - if you live long enough to be threated by black hole, probably there is some compassionate soul to drag you away from it, relax' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"differential" as different to "integral"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'time is order of happenings. not something independant' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there is no time' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"planar" as different" to "volumetric" ' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You can't even live for thousand years with your condition of medical tech research, yet try to grab even a chrono questions and researches' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if the world does not destruct and devolve society, some humans may eventually live thousands of years through biotech, unless some God actually exists and terminates the current time-track' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'If you want to understand chrono - film a day of your life, with your decisions and such. Maybe you understand, as well as understand that a "chrono" and human "decision" is quite different things. Maybe you understand, with luck, that there is no human decision influent chrono' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'well. time is a thing to bundle some events together. nothing more.' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Chronoflow is global, like plane/space continuum' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'events that happened in "that order"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there is no TIME!' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '"that order" is only your "amnesia of future". You remember only past, don't you ? It is unknown of future that grant you "present"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps there is one entity (and likely only one) with the ability to influence the ...' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'There can be couple of different chronoflow PROJECTION on/in space/plane continuum' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps some of us are able to calculate some of the future' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'By sentient, "trained" animals, who call themself "intelligent"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"clairvoyance"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But you don't calculate your past, don't you ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"lucky-guess prophets"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'time is imagined always. whenever you think of something at all. thinking "time" is something fucks up everything' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there is just order of thing' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Nostradamus' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'happenings*' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But this "order" is clearly present, ain't it ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'The Apocalypse -- some of the "guesses" are almost uncanny' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the "order" is inevitable' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Beliefs of own immortality - don't makes you truly immortal' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'but to call it "time" is fucked up' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the past is able to be changed' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'history revisionists' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Try to - you present in the past,as well in futute. Do it, c'mon ! Heh ? Can't ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You cannon change your past - and your future' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Did you don't understand your "chises" had nothing to do with chrono, with time ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"choices"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '"choices",yes' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps God delegates' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps God delegates choices' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'not to say that there is or is not a God' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Your beliefs of God/Goddess based upon beliefs in own immortality first, and as for world construct - this comes second' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But immortality either can be artifical or natural, but neither any of this Terra inhabitants have' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps "immortal" is a misnomer for "i'm mortal"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps "immortal" is a contraction of "i'm mortal"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'It is tied with chrono' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"chrono" is a synonym of "time"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Aging tied with chrono, while invincibility tied with order of things' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps there is no actual "time" ("time" is an abstract concept) other than the perception of changes to the "now"' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'It is possible to achieve prolonged lifespan even with current tech - everybody know the living brain able to live with lifesupport for 300-400 years' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Pure brain, i mean' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '"body" not included. Life support generate bodily fluid and blood' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'longer according to the Bible: (Methuselah).' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Maybe' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some say the Bible is a book of fiction' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'as does other religious literature ?' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'It all comes from mysticism - with burial of dead and such' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some say some Science is science-fiction' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'It is big difference between : when you trough personal experience know TRUTH, and when you with info from outside speculate and made hypotesises' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Back to b-holes' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'When b-hole threat imminent to Galaxy, Terran race will had already tech for normal space travel. Or become extinct. Either way, it is unimportant' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Discussion end' T3/r7/2016-02-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ScubaSteve: 'am I the only one who suspects this entire conversation was just a pretext to say "B-hole" alot?' T3/r7/2016-02-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Caramel Milkshake: 'bernie sanders should be the next president because he makes a great brooklyn hipster t-shirt subject' T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'hm. i wonder if its even checked if cancer could come and go. and what killed it when that happened. i mean - sometimes people get well mysteriously. maybe that happens all the time before it becomes a sickness?' T3/r7/2016-02-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'immune system deals with cancer on the regular. sometimes it doesnt do so good, and then folks start noticing it.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why send people on Mars. thats just dumb' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i've heard absolutely no convincing reasons why they should go there. 0 good reasons.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its there. since when has there ever been a better reason?' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the dude has to have a good reason to go. all exept one is to avoid life as it is. the one thats left is vanity. massive attention. it works but is so dumb.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nah. see, thing about people is, they arent anything even close to rational. noone needs a reason, most folks wouldnt know what to do with one if they had it.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'to send a human is 1000x times more expensive. just because of the raw mass to send there, the budget would grow insanely.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'uh huh. and?' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '"insanely" is the key word there:P' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i dont know the math but to support a bot vs human, the stuff difference in kgs is not huge but enormous' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'and the end result is not much better' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oh yeah, sure thing - and?' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its almost 0' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'thats why its all dumb' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'what part of this question led you to believe that sanity was at issue?' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'just a waste. truckloads of money to get notghing back at all' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'somebody is earning monies from that venture though' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nothing obvious and immediate, perhaps - which would make the project slightly better than most expenditures.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'then again, its hard to measure or predict the secondary benefits of such a thing.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'well. see. the thing is - they know very well there are no real good results sending a few people there. but still keep pushing it' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"some" not "most"' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ah, i see you are an optimist, Xy.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'no immediately beneficial results predicted, i think you meant - but then, that really was never the goal anyway.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there is no real goal' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '"send people. keep them alive" is no goal' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you have gained wisdom :)' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'there are those who would say that keeping people alive in harsh circumstances is the only goal.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'me, i look around at people and say, 'meh'.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the more interesting question that occurs to me is, will the trip be made in the most direct fashion, or in the most beneficial one?' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'harsh circumstances can be created very cheaply here. a few years ago 2 eager workers climbed into an old tanker. they survived 30 seconds.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'then died. too little oxygen left' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'some would call that a failure. me, i call it darwin's ghost at work.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'clearly, those are not the people we should send to mars.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'hm. yeah. i'd say they have to wait 1-200 years so that those people could start something. not just die off' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'long-term goals are nice to have.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thing is, if you never work for them - they never happen.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'this "sending humans to mars" conversation is getting painful to read almost - like from a bad boring movie or something' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not a coincidence.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''sending people to mars debate' is soooo many bad boring movies...' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Dumb and Dumber - the sequel" - inane conjectures on dubious ventures' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ill see your dumber, and raise you 'leprechaun in space'.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'well. it is painful to hear about the efforts to do something so awfully dumb.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"if they send humans to Mars, should the spaceship be painted red because Mars is red, or blue because Earth is blue" ' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nope. thats not even a question, because the only acceptable answers are white and silver. maximum reflectivity is a must.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Leprechauns are green, so maybe green"' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'gold. it should be metallic gold. because once you factor in lifting and construction costs, the difference between shiny gold and black iron is pretty close to nil.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'my point is- if they pull it off and send people there, that would be the dumbest thing humans have ever done. and with the help of the smartest people. the latter makes it look so sad:P' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i think its funny that you call those two different categories of people :)' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i was amused when the nasa team lost their match in junkyard wars...' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'at least NASA is not wasting monies on crackpot games' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'well, maybe not taxpayer funds - but from what i hear, kerbal space program is quite popular there :p' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'at least not as much monies wasted as the case if they won those "junkyard wars"' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'nasa should have outsourced then. like they always do' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'NAS is not supposed to waste taxpayers monies' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec snickers softly. T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'they almost fucked up webb telescope' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'yeah, look at how well hubble went. they managed to mostly fix it.' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'so lucky with hubble' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'well. what can you say. they have to invent new stuff all the time that has to work the 1st try. cant stay mad at them:)' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'Trump and Sanders are your New Hampsire winners' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'elephants have long noses...' T3/r7/2016-02-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'do not!' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'id fuck hillary in the asss' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'when was the last time that shrew got boned' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'gtee sanders has been balls deep in college tang' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'it has bugged me for decades - why is anger so bad for jedis? i mean, adrenaline makes people perform 10x better sometimes. thats pure natural drug' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean - jedi's are fighting agains nature' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'jedi body says "yes", jedi mind says "no. lets be a pussy"' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'debate and tech are both blazing white -- this channel is used so infrequently, the blazing white here looked like tech' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'since "jedhi" is from yiddish or hebrew, look whether there is anger and violence in the Kabalah' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'debate is annoyingly red for me' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'red --> hence the desire for anger anfd violence ' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'hugs can kill too' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '(blazing) white is the serenity of Equilibrium' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the world of Equilibrium prefered to avoid crude disabling emotions (such as wild anger)' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'unsure what the moral of (the movie) "Equilibrium" was, seeing that at the end, their world degenerated into a return to and and violence' T3/r7/2016-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '.. anger and violence and emotions' T3/r7/2016-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm from the goverment, and i'm here to help' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'gun-fu. 'nuff said.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its not normal to like going to dentist. but is it a sickness when you love it?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'depends on how cute the dentist is.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean.. the pain' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I'm 50/50 as to whether I get novacaine' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Alright, alright. X-rated channel+debate' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'is this a C-cup vs a D-cup sort of channel?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'anything more than a mouthful is wasted.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exactly. T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Then that's situational ... because some mouths are bigger than others.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ayup' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'any letter's fine by me :-)' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so, the republicans love the constitution, but they think it's wrong for the current president to nominate a replacement for Scalia...why?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'because they only love the constitution when it's convenient' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'is it the bare fact of nomination, or is it the nominee?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'nobody has been nominated yet' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'but they threatened obama that if he did it they wouldnt confirm' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'nobody has been nominated, but they're saying they'll fight any nomination because Obama "only" has 11 months left.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oh well then - this is the best time to object to the nominee.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'except he has over 300 days in office. the average confirmation period is less than 100 days. the longest was less than 200' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'maybe we go 11 mos without a full bench' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'that would be ridiculously horrible politicking' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'this is why, even though I don't like either side, I'll usually go toward the irrational dreamers over the bullshitting hypocrites.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Trump doesn't know who to nominate, but he knows people who do' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Jo Jo Jo Joelz is agreeing with that Bishoujo Raded person again... T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'trump wont be president. best thing that could happen for democrats is for him to win the nomination. moderates will flock to the left' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'bottom line is, the devil in chief can do no right. with all the anti-constitutional executive orders, its a sure bet that his nominee will be poison - whomever it turns out to be.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '8 years of political rhetoric from the right has brainwashed people. Obama's been a good president.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'and, as an elected official, it is his duty to nominate a replacement' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'trump's job is to pull the crazy vote away from the black guy, the old guy, and the young guy, to prevent them from winning. as a bonus, he will also make the republican candidate look better.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'if you support the constitution, you support Obama nominating the next justice. you can't have it both ways.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you really dont understand anything about people or politics, do you? you can _totally_ have it any ways you want. the constitution says so. so does the bible.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'i liked what elizabeth warren said. if you think the voters should get a say, guess what? they did over 3 years ago when they put obama into a 2nd term' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'debate the bible might have a slight bias towards men who want things' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pfft. the voters are one of the least reliable parts of the system.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and politicians are men who want things. coincidence? i think not!' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I saw a quote from a New Hampshire primary voter who was voting for Cruz because they wanted the budget to be balanced and college to be cheaper.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if there are prior precedents of nominations within the last 11 months of a presidential term, then the Republicans are definitely "unamerican"' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'South Carolina is next, I'm sure some dumb things will come out of their mouths as well' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'mannec - the voters are unreliable, but that's what the republicans cited as their reason for wanting to wait' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'although if they do block a new justice i am eager to see what that does to congressonal elections in november with a bunch of annoyed moderates' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the hypocrisy from the republicans has gotten mind-blowing during the election cycle. I wonder if their base will ever wise up and learn that "the constitution" probably doesn't land on their side every single time in every single situation.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'raded: no they wont' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'meh. the voters chose the devil they knew, instead of the cardboard cutout running for the other party. that doesnt make it a _good_ choice' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'the republican base believes all muslims are terrorists and the gays are heathens and taxes are evil. they dont care about information' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '11 months is 23% of a Presidential term' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Jo Jo Jo Joelz nods at Xyliz. T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'well 2 mos will be sitting duck' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Obama's been a very good president by any measure' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'and I'll stand by that :p not great, not the best, but very good.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'by any objective measure. you assume people can be objective' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '_any_ measure? nah.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the worst knock against Obama is the Bush-initiated bailouts.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'for a long time it was, "look how much more expensive gas has gotten!"' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'my favorite is when people say he's the worst president ever. have they even heard of buchanan? of course they haven't' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'cheap gasoline is a symptom of bad things, man.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'in 2009? yes. in 2015/2016? not necessarily.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'he gets the big comfy chair, he gets the blame, thats how authority works. hes got the biggest comfiest chair in the world, he gets _all_ the blame.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'blame for what though?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'obamacare' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'communist obamacare obviously' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the economy going well? unemployment plummeting? people getting health insurance? improved foreign policy?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'bush's bailouts? O's fault. el nino? O's fault. rising cost of fuel? same thing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'oh those are despite him not because of him ' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'obamacare is chrome rims on a car that doesn't run. Our medical system is BROKEN.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'they sound like good things, might even be. still need to consider the harm that band-aids can cover up, vs. heal.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'your problem raded is assuming people care about things like facts and information. and the majority do. but the republican base? half of them still think he's a kenyan muslim communist' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'dont get me wrong, there are plenty of smart republicans and there are plenty of dumb democrats' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the majority wouldnt know a fact if it bit them on the face. even those who do, have a hard time doing anything useful with them.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'but the people who non-ironically scream MURICA dont think that Obama has anything to do with lower gas prices, lower unemployment, etc, because Faux News tells them he doesn't' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the "smart republicans" seem to be pretty much limited to pragmatic business owners' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jo Jo Jo Joelz: 'and that fits into their world view so they believe it' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'how much info do we have about the harm that a rise in underemployment brings?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'how do we know that underemployment is harmful? how do we know that it's not just a natural shift from an aging population and the fact that employment isn't a requirement for health insurance any more?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'sure, the numbers of 'people who have jobs' went up - but how many of those end up on the losing end of their new part-time jobs? what do we know about the formerly full-time employed? not much... but everyone ive talked to knows someone who is now struggling, and want before.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'anecdotal though' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'have you looked at bronze-level coverage? the one most taxpayer-funded recipients get? i have...' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'yeah, anecdotal - because facts simply arent available.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'we do have the macro level facts. just because Jim from down the street is worse off than he was 8 years ago doesn't mean anything.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'high deductibles, high copays, low payout percentages, and low payout limits - half the folks i know of who couldnt afford health coverage before, cant afford to use it now - but by golly, the metric of 'number of people with a policy' looks better and better.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'high deductible and high copay is good when you just need catastrophic coverage, which is what we were lacking.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'employers are even more strongly incentivized to reduce full-time in favor of part-time employees. the harm that does to both the business and the employess is not a small thing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I don't believe that for a second' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'catastrophic coverage is a fine thing - but ive never actually heard anyone talk about it before - the issue ive heard, from politicians and recipients, was always about the other thing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the full-time/part-time shift is happening in countries without healthcare reform.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyrni: 'anyone who was going to use that strategy to avoid giving people benefits was already using it, just they have to do it at 30 hours instead of 40 now(iirc the numbers)' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'uh huh - see 'underemployment'.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '(Debate) Raded: 'how do we know that underemployment is harmful? how do we know that it's not just a natural shift from an aging population and the fact that employment isn't a requirement for health insurance any more?'' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a bad thing, location doesnt alter that. turning experienced workers with a motive for loyalty into disposable commodities with little motive to learn or perform their duties is never a good thing for the business - it reduces work quality, speed, efficiency, and customer experience.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it doesnt matter if its natural or not - the question is, does it provide a greater benefit to the employee than the alternative?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so good employees will treat part-time jobs as a stopgap or a stepping stone until they can move on.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'or are we getting into the "all the economic gains are going to the 1%!" territory?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some businesses are run on the principle of high turnover of intelligent educated desperate disposable grunts' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a fine theory - except that there are even fewer other places to go than before.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bishoujo Raded nods at Xyliz. T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that may have been true in 2010 but it's not true today.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'everyone who has a job, thereby losing access to unemployment benefits, runs the risk of losing out - i have a now former coworker with exactly that problem.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'he just quit, because the combination of reduced child-care expenses and state-funded assistance pays better.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: '2 years ago, he was a full-time worker with health benefits. his kid was doing fine then...' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'a job without decent benefits is not really a job -- the polititicians that removed benefits from part-time jobs are callous crooks' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'a job without decent benefits represents a huge chunk of the 'newly employed' - part time sucks.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so kill the private health insurance industry and replace it with single-payer. cut the waste.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the truly terrible part of all this mess is that there really is, potentially, alot of good to be accomplished - not just for individuals, but also for the nation as a whole.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i have very little faith in my government's ability to accomplish important things efficiently, in a timely fashion, or at a reasonable cost.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'anyone who has seen the bottomless pit of despair that is the VA system can sympathize.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'private health insurance is not exactly a bastion of efficiency.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I work with it all the time. it's awful :p' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'trouble is, accomplishing the good things can only be done, in the long term, with sustainability as one of its primiary design goals. what we have now does not meet that standard.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'which Presidents were (and are) responsible and continue to be responsible (by acquiescence silent or otherwise) for (part-time) employees being without decent proportional benefits' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'being somewhat less bad than the worst thing around is not exactly a glowing recommendation.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'it's not, but that's what our political system forces' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the ACA has been successful. it's not perfect, but it's substantially better than what we had before.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'be specific, accusingly mention names of the guilty Presidents and leaders' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'there's a reason why idiots protesting against it are carrying signs that say "Keep Socialism out of my Medicare!"' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'disagree. it looks good in the beginning, because the metrics used to analyze it are increasing - but its not sustainable. the harm it does when it collapses will, i predict, be greater than the harm it averted in its infancy.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'besides meaningful use, what has left to materialize fully from the ACA?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyrni: 'Having health care decoupled from your job is a really big benefit...' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'for the folks who both get and can afford to use it, sure - and there are probably lots of those. but ...' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'republicans want to torpedo the parts of the ACA that make it work so that it fails and they can say, "SEE LOOK AT HOW AWFUL IT WAS" while their voters go back to being uninsured.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'if the republicans genuinely thought the ACA was a failure, they wouldn't need to do anything. it would just fail.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'how long can that system continue to grow, unfunded? the money isnt at risk of running out, so much as it was never present to begin with - and that is a problem much much larger than just aca.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its too big to fail. remember that mantra?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the (paid) polititions giving the nation's resources to a few individuals is a form of socialism (socialism for the rich)' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that doesn't apply here. at all.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'one of the problems with allowing to to just fail is that it then wouldnt provide such a rich source of political rhetoric - but another problem is that its eventual collapse will be immensely harmful - after of course, it has already spent severl years/decadees inflicting tremendous stress on every other aspect of the nation.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'what stress? what other aspects?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and seemingly those rich earning millions and billions from the nation's resources do not want to pay decent taxes to pay for the upkeep of the nation's peoples -- that is extreme corruption' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'it is a huge, unfunded expense - which adds to the already quite large pile of unfunded expenses in the federal budget. borrowing can cover for it - incidentally, adding yet another brick to the pile for next year.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'what is a huge, unfunded expense?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'check out google and wikipedia, look for things like 'deficit spending' and 'compound interest'.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'unless of course congress has changed its mind while i was looking elsewhere, the cost of the aca wasnt being funded by a matching increase in taxation.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'how were uninsured patients being paid for before? where did that money come from?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'some were visiting emergency rooms, at the expense of taxpayers and whatever private institutions run the hospitals - and some just didnt go.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'uninsured person gets stuck with a $80,000 bill, declares bankruptcy, poof! free healthcare?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so the only way for "the nation" to avoid default is for some people to be denied healthcare?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats an extreme example, but remember that catastrophic coverage was at best a small part of the rhetoric.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its not pretty, is it? but ultimately, the question is 'what do the citizens, and the nation as a whole, give up to accomplish the goal of universal health care?' there is no such thing as free.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the US had the highest per capita spending on healthcare before the ACA. why?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'if the ACA is being pinpointed as the issue, are we just pretending there was no issue before?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that is a really complicated situation, and your question presupposes that 'per capita' is relevant - but you would need to look at how many caputs werent a part of that, before your numbers would mean much.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pfft, no. the aca is only the latest example in the spotlight.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'running up a huge Debt upon which interest must be paid to a few is corrupt capitalistism (or by another name: socialism for the capitalistic rich )' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and, worst of all, its not sustainable.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'why do we assume that the debt is bad, or is at a bad level?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'corruption is not /necessarily/ destructive to a nation - harmful, yes, but potentially sustainable.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'dirty political secrets: the economy is good, the debt isn't an issue, a balanced budget every year would be bad, and the ACA has done mostly good things.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'oh, and immigration helps the economy, which is why moderate republicans will never do anything meaningful about it.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'the US debt and defict are at a very high possibly damaging level. A small nation debt isn't neccessarily a bad thing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Japan's debt to GDP ratio is double the US. I know their economy sucks, but what has been damaging about it?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'small national debt (I should proofread more)' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'debt, in a general sense, is not necessarily bad. debt that doesnt do useful work is a cost without benefit - the very definition of a bad thing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'national debt is only significant if the country in debt has no control over their money. see: Greece.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'as paying interest on the national debt becomes larger, I would assume it would cause problems.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'taking on a debt to accomplish a useful purpose is great - as long as the purpose outlives the debt. until that debt is paid, the interest it accrues will take up funds that could be doing something more beneficial - and if the benefit is much shorter-term than the debt, you end up paying a little while for something, and then a long time for - nothing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, any loan is inherently more expensive than using available funds - and increasing costs without a concomitant increase in benefit, is also a bad thing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'small example: in 2008, the US government bailed out AIG with $180 billion. sounds terrible at first glance. where did that money come from? did the US go into debt to pay for the bailout? probably.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but taxpayers ended up profiting on the bailout.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'do you mean directly, or in a more roundabout fashion?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'in the AIG case directly' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'AIG paid back more than $180 billion' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'now that the economy is doing better (please don't get sidtracked on that statement) the U.S. should make a strong effort to keep the deficet under contol' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'when the USA government (and other nations) take out further loans (so more money may be printed et cetera), instead of promising to pay the rich later, promise to pay the everybody in the nation later (and put those interest monies into "trust" to be paid on the date of Manyana -- if there are never any payouts until the total Debt is 0, no biggie -- except that the filthy rich are unable to earn monies from the taxpayers, and if they are to earn extra monies, they must earn those monies from non-government sources)' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'for who'se benefit?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Malkar: that's true, and that has been happening. the budget deficit is very small.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'as far as i know, the laws of physics do not rule out the possibility that the aig bailout, in the long term, proved beneficial to the citizens ...but i would need to see some pretty strong evidence before i made any decisions that relied on it.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the only people who didn't benefit from AIG's bailout are AIG's competitors who may have seen an increase in business from a destruction of competition, and even then that would only be assuming AIG failing didn't take them out too.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hmm, was aig a big name in the housing thing? its been a long time since ive seen anything but aca.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Mannec: AIG was given $180 billion and paid back $205 billion.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'possibly AIG shareholders benefited and US citizens did not' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'for some reason deficet projections show that the federal deficet will increase. I'm not sure why. Hopefully it won't be the case.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'while bailouts may be the least bad solution, there really isn't any (non-corrupt) reason not to wipe out equity' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'AIG is an insurance company, or was before they renamd' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'renamed' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its a fine thing to say, and may even be true - but i would need to know alot more about the provenance of those dollars than i do, if i were to rely on it.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'they didn't have enough capital to cover the claims that were coming in, so the US government covered it for them.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'investing, if i recall, heavily in ... mortgage-backed securities?' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Financial MeltDown was caused by the excess monies from not paying enough taxes, by excess monies that seeking and demanding interest and revenue, by excess monies prompting risky ventures (the derivative games).' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'they insured mortgage backed securities' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'PolitiFact has a short rundown on the AIG numbers: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jan/02/american-international-group/aig-says-it-has-repaid-government-plus-profit/' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'insured the securities - what a bizarre idea.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'oh, i dont trust anything i find on the internet - its all run by dogs, and made of lies.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'well then I'm going to have trouble proving anything ' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec snickers softly. T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'fortunately, i am comfortable in an unproven world.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'lets assume for the sake of argument that aig took out a loan from the fed, accomplished something useful, and then paid back the loan in some moderately short period of time.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the truth is that most of the republican candidates would have done exactly what Obama and Bush did in reaction to the financial crisis' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Mannec: that's basically what happened :p' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'doesnt make their responses good ones, just hypocritical :/' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that would be a debt that is a 'good thing'.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'a lot of those trillions of dollars are "virtual monies" -- monies that are seeking revenues and interest of profits (from increasing national debts)' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'gotta be careful with words like 'virtual' when you are discussing fiat moneys - they have a whole heirarchy of fictional existence :P' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'all i know is america will be great again' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'it is a fact that $180 billion was given to AIG from the US taxpayers and $202 billion was given back from AIG to the US taxpayers. there were some tax breaks thrown into the bailout that make the numbers less clear, but even the worst-case analysis would have it as a push that saved thousands of AIG claimholders from being fucked.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'arguably beneficial, and at some small-ish extra cost. assuming that is all true, then that is still an example of a 'good debt'.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'which is why Bush, McCain, Obama, Clinton, Romney, Rubio, etc. would have done exactly the same thing in that situation.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'any huge monies earning revenues from government Debt are stagnant monies -- the nonies goes into those huge coffers and does not ever come out' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'not true, xy! those monies dont just sit in a digital box doing nothing, they get lent out again - generating even more interest.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'okay, I gotta bail myself out of this and turn debate off again :p' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bishoujo Raded misses the 'v' and wabes. T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i need a bail in to contiune keeping debate on' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the velocity of monies theory states that for monies to do actual work, the monies must not be stagnant (y/n/maybe) ' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'aww, you were one of the fun ones :(' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'im not familiar with the v.o.m theory, but plain old physics says the answer is yes. work can only be accomplished when energy moves from a point of high concentration to a point of lower concentration.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thermodynamics baby, woo!' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'huge-stagnant-monies that hoover in moving-monies into increasing the stagnant monies are bad huge-stagnant-monies' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'which is why the rich keep most of their assets in the form of investments, rather than mattress-stuffing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'government debt must not be financed by the huge-stagnent-monies of the few (as any interest payouts are a "government-based charity to a few")' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'is inflation of the money system any different if (1) the government takes out a loan and promises to pay eveybody but never does, or if (2) pays out interest to the rich (increasing the stagnant coffers and giving charity to the rich)' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the issue is that "everybody" doesn't have the money to lend...you want to borrow money, you go to the ones who have it' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if the Government is goint to print monies, then don't increase also the Debt' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'sorry to disappoint, but the government doesn't get more money by printing it' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you can ask zimbabwe how that turns out' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada peers at you intently. T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Printing gives you a larger share of the money cake, certainly.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it reduces the size of the cake' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'again, ask zimbabwe how that works out' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'besides, I've heard the problems in Zimbabwe were caused by evilwhiteracists and colonial powers, nothing to do with the government policies..' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, go with that one' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'but if there is a requirement for fiscal balance and accountability: the Government loans a lot of monies to the "people" (in "trust"), then the Government loans that loaned money from the "trust" at a low rate of interest -- but hey seen this scenario: that is how the Banking System runs, except the rich are grabbing the interest monies instead of the "people"' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'when the government loans money to the "people", for those people who aren't rich, they're actively using those moneys, and cannot then lend the money back to the government...' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'with the "loaned" monies, the Government prints more monies, or maybe the Federal Reserve prints more monies, but when the interest monies on the newly created Debt go to Banks or the "already rich" a new actual Debt is created ' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if the interest monies (on the new Debt) were to be paid to the people (or not at all), then no actual Debt, only a virtual Debt' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'again, the government cannot just print more money. finance simply doesn't work like that' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you're delusional, lrn2eco' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'biker, its a fine idea youve got there - but false. waving a magic wand and making dollars appear from nowhere is exactly what happens.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'of course, that would be bad enough - but it goes downhill from there.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if the US were a closed system, that could be the case...' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'closed, open, doesnt matter - dollars are, in fact, produced from nothing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, they're not' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Finance system does work like that, but the (banking) rich few are also grabbing the interest from the Debt (instead of the "people")' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'they're produced from rather complex formula' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'formulae may be involved in determining how many - but the dollars themselves are not produced from some other thing. they appear, *poof*.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'when you simply decide that you "have more money", each of those dollars now accomplish less work, and your net money is relatively unchanged' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that's your issue, you believe that the dollars are the money...' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the value of each unit decreases, certainly - thats called inflation.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and that is exactly why you don't "get more" by printing' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'dollars _are_ the money, at least in the nation i happen to be standing in.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'I haven't held cash in at least 5 years, all of it's on my debit/cc' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, they're not...they're a representation of the money' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you do get more. they are units, you can count them - the quantity of units increases.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you get more dollars...you don't get more money...your issue that you were trying to solve didn't change' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'money is, itself, a symbol - the dollar is the money is the representation of ... well, thats where it gets complicated.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you get more money, you dont get more wealth.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'one of the problems, pretty nearly the only problem, that inflation can address is a lack of money to move around. you need to have enough units available for people to be able to gain and spend them, or you get what is called 'deflation'.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'that doesnt make inflation a good thing, just maybe a little bit better than the alternative.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'some inflation is usually a good thing, as long as it's a gentle climb' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'false. growth is a good thing - inflation is, by definition, the devaluation of something (assumed to be) valuable.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but it also needs to hit every aspect' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'slow inflation is clearly less painful than rapid inflation ... but again, that doesnt make it a good thing.' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the huge Debt$ of the USA (and other nations) is partly due to the Banking System$, and to (paid-off) Polititions giving resources monies privilege interest to the rich few (and the Banking System) .. using "complex formulas" to obfuscate the money-trail$ ' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'politition -> politician' T3/r7/2016-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'politition:: the act of converting a thing into a city.' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the pope is accused in getting it on with a married lady for 30 years. when he's gonna get convicted - does it mean all the documents with his signature will be nullified? all the saints back to the streets as commoners. all the drapes, curtains, and charity money would be returned? ' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'candles..' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'at least liberation theology should remain untainted..' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'whenever he blessed something or someone - that person or thing has been living or being unguarded.. almost naked instead. all that time' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Do you remember who is YOUR president, fellow MUDders ???' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Do you really value democracy and freedom ?' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yes, indeed, at 5 euros a month' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'what democracy' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Democracy is the rule of people' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'would you rather live in the ascendancy of a civilization, or its decline?' T3/r7/2016-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'both options are seemingly current, maybe no need to choose' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'have you ever stolen stuff?' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'only hearts' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'hm. unless its a fucking tragedy, you can't say "im SO sorry" without people getting upset at you' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ok. lets calm down and talk about Syria' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but I don't like talking to my phone' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why is everybody bombing Syria nowadays?' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'it's the thing to do' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there is 3 different gangs doing it' T3/r7/2016-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'have you seen syria? theyre engaged in gentrification.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rizgoth: 'mmm, satellite internet is good, and quite mobile.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if you die quickly enough after making a baby, do you think you could reincarnate to be your kid's kid?' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'wow.. marco rubio just said about planned parent hood "those videos that came out last year"' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'the same ones proven to be doctored and fake??? of course news outlet doesnt correct him.. so silly' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aterius: 'Stop it, the real issue here is Obama knows exactly what he's doing' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'no. the real issue is who are THEY?' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'well played' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'can you win a debate knowing nothing about the topic?' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its possible to win in poker blindly' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'most debates are won in such a fashion' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'lets see. metheny lacks new material to be on top for longer than 5 years' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'try to bluff now:P' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ive found that utter ignorance of the subject at hand is actually an advantage.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'a winner of a debate can only claim that they are better at debating than their opponent :)' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'most professional sports analyst make the claim that any team can win on any given day which makes us wonder why there are championship games since the winner can only claim that they were better that gaim.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'game*' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: ''Can' only implies non-zero probability, but the more skilled team still has the better probability.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'repeated testing also allows for greater profitability.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'hmm, i wonder if counterfactual definiteness holds in sportscasting?' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'all that might be true, but on any given day a team can lose which means that they don't have supremacy. Same idea applies to debating.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'a champion is supreme by definition' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'Supremacy is not equivalent to infallibility.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'never made that claim' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'but being called champion when there are those that can defeat you sounds a little presumptuous' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'So support how the non-zero possibility of failure equates to a lack of supremacy.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the best one can say is that "today/yesterday/last year no one defeated me"' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if at the end of time you are still undefeated then you are certainly a champion :>' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'Virtually all accomplishments/achievements are based only on a moment in time.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'And the supremacy of a champion is not typically based on only a single event, but rather through successive triumphs over a period of time/series of events during which all pretenders to the crown have fallen.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'In most sports, anyway.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I agree. I am just commenting on word usage :) "The world champions Texas Royals" :) ' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'there might be some Cuban team that might dispute that :)' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'which brings us back to the point. To make claims to supremacy you have to define the context, which has to be as narrow as possible.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'Just like there might be some unknown guy in a random kenyan village who could outrun an olympic champion :)' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so in debate you channel the discussion is such a way that your opponent can't score freely.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that is likely, Trist :)' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I would certainly be willing to bet on it :)' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'Agree with the part about debating. Have seen some strong debaters win in subjects they are sorely outmatched in, and doing so by tightly controlling the terms of the debate.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'William Lane Craig comes to mind' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'which renders the debate as means to declaring a position worthless.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aterius: 'its all about frame control ' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats why we have press releases :p' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'as is usually the case, those who pass a test can only claim that they are successful test takers and nothing else.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'Agree with you on that. Some people (philosophy students in particular) still blindly cling to the tradition of oral debates though, lingering from a bygone era when they might have been the best way to communicate' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Abstract Anaristos: 'Even Socrates, perhaps the greatest debater in history, admitted that he won't most times by the use of sophisms (read that as :tricks:).' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aterius: 'thats because the humans havent discover3' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aterius: 'that the mind doesnt change instantly and even with perfect solutions its gradual' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I think the fault lies with the audience. They should reject tricks and force the contestants to be honest about their positions.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aterius: 'we deserve what we get...' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the winner of a contest would the one that after everyone has honestly stated their position, offers the best solution.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I don't watch the debates :)' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i'd imagine that the average human has always been drawn more to spectacle than to truth or value.' T3/r7/2016-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'but I did see the clip where Samantha Bee discusses them :)' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when you become a master wizard, will the beard grow instantly or you still have to wait for it?' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I takes longer to grow a beard than to become a master wizard?' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'it..' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'does for me, I can't grow a beard to save my soul' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean. all the master wizards in the movies already have a full beard. always' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'see - you get promoted to master wizards. you look in the mirror and say "fuck.. still 6 months until they take me seriously"' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'You get the beard when you become a master wiz, it's like the badge' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'yeah. would suck if it takes a long wait. maybe they use a spell to grow it fast' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the beard is a symptom of the leakage of awesomeness from a wizards follicles. under ideal circumstances a wizard who invests his time in perfecting his efficiency will maintain a youthful appearance and a smooth chin - and yes, he wont be taken seriously.' T3/r7/2016-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'ok' T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh, anyone else amused at how utterly Trump has confounded the media?' T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Tonight on CNN: Donald Trump says something crazy that we think is racist and the world is going to end. Well done CNN, you've just given him $10m worth of free prime time advertising you retards' T3/r7/2016-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Pope comments on Trump? Well done, Pope, you've just given Trump $100m of free prime-time world-wide advertising, oh, and what's that? You've had to apologise for being seen to be interfering in national politics? Well that was a PR victory, you daft kiddie-fiddling sky-faerie worshipper' T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'Ive never been an apple fan but i have to say they have earned my respect with how they are standing up against the gov demands to create a back door entry to their phones.' T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) She-wolf AryaStark: 'apple FTW' T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and you believe that the public display reflects private negociations?' T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its so cute that you think there arent already a handful installed.' T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i do kinda like what i saw in the paper today, tho - 'well, they didnt install the management app, so well just have to do what every other device owner in the world does.'' T3/r7/2016-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'fbi looks up 'how to r00t ipwn' on the youtoobz.' T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'so hillary will deff be our next pres...' T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I now feel validated in every conspiracy theory Ive ever had' T3/r7/2016-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'always ice having our pres picked for us' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'so a couple of Gynecologists (UC Urvine) say that a little FGM is a good compromise, maybe a nick or a cut, or that removal of the clitoral hood is really no worse than a male circumcision. How fucking hard is it to understand that ANY cutting, poking, proding of a child's genitals(male or female imho) is FUCKING wrong???' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'okay, time to dip back into political goodness: why the hell is McConnell doing everything he can to prevent an Obama Supreme Court appointee he doesn't even know the name of yet? anyone Obama picks will be a moderate because of how brutal the confirmation process will be, and with Trump the likely GOP nominee, Hillary probably skates into the presidency unimpeded. what exactly is the outcome he's hoping for?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyrn: 'They are scared of primary challengers on the right if they don't do it.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'obstructionism seems to be driving GOP voters away from the status quo. they're screwed either way.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'republicans have spent 8 years trying to drum up irrational anger against Obama and the dems and it's blowing up in their faces.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'They have also spent some time as a majority, and don't seem to be making much out of it.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Were stuck with hillary... that was decided for us before any of them even started running.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'The Republican nomination also seems to have been set up to favour a Jeb Bush-type well funded establishment candidate.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'It was a good plan.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Somehow I don't think the DNC expected Clinton to barely be holding her own against a left-of-Obama candidate either.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Obama and Clinton are both exceedingly moderate' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'and that's frustrated dem voters, hence Bernie's popularity' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that said, I think most dem voters would strongly prefer a third Obama term over Hillary or Bernie. I know I would.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'Id take a potty trained monkey over hillary or trump tbh' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but the GOP establishment has spent 8+ years talking about the elites in Washington, then the best thing they can come up with is Jeb Bush and Scott Walker.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Hillary is just unlikeable. that's her biggest flaw. other than conservatives angry over things they learned from Facebook memes, the biggest knock against her is that she's been so inconsistent with policies and beliefs over the past 30+ years.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I was thinking about Obama's pre-election history rather than his policies over the past two terms. The latter are admittedly closer to vampire squid moderation.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I must admit I never saw the amazing virtue of that kind of consistency.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I have no idea what that means :p' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'it's true, consistency is both a blessing and a curse for a politician.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyrn: 'Being able to change your positions over time as the world changes should be a virtue but it's not...' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I have certainly changed a lot of my beliefs since the first time I voted.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'and that's what Hillary has done. she molds her beliefs to the prevailing dem establishment stance at the time, but leans more right than left from those prevailing stances.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'And not because the world changed either, but because I learned more, and realized my earlier views were inferior.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but conservatives talk about Hillary like liberals talk about Trump and I can only chalk that up to bullshit conservative Facebook memes and 8 years of GOP fear mongering ' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'it's a little too convenient when a politician's positions always seem to shift with what polls best...' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I always wonder why conservatives like to paint the most moderate dems as the scary ones.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'because those are the most electable dems, and hence relevant enemies?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'if you believe socialism is the world's great evil, you shouldn't be afraid of Hillary, you should be afraid of Bernie.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Cruz and Trump are the least electable of the GOP bunch but catch the most hate from the left. ' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'average conservative sees hilary as disingenuous and sketchy, but bernie as having the far more dangerous policies' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'Biggest change id like to see in our gov is term limits added to congress and the like... will never happen though.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and hate is not always based on positions either;trump has his winning personality too :)' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Trump seems more electable than anyone else I can recall.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'in this cycle' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'his ceiling as the nominee is much lower than Bush/Rubio/Walker's wold have been' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'I don't think any of those people will make a difference, I can't remember any president ever actually doing anything useful' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'they've each done a lot, bush getting us into prolonged middle-eastern conflict and increasing thscope of govt with dhs/patriot act/etc, obama expanding gov into healthcare, etc' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'kind of ironic that the most scared conservative voters are finding their messiah in a New York billionaire.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Yeah but it all adds up to nothing in the end, america is still going downhill in every aspect' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the ACA has made a huge positive difference, and the W/Obama bailouts worked great, but those are other discussions :p' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'People have no power, president has no power, so nothing worthwhile will ever get done' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Rake: that's absolutely not true and it's one of the most frustrating things about the 2016 campaign' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'nobody gets to talk about the good things going on because good things don't get people fired up to go out and vote' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'the ACA and bailouts are both imo clearly inferior designs compare to typical western european setups' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the ACA, yes. single payer eliminates inefficienies that we spend billions on every year, but it's a huge step in the right direction.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the US bailouts have been successful, the EU bailouts have had mixed success.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'Reality show stars are becoming presidents and Predisdents are becoming reality show stars...' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'China never really recovered from the crash and Japan has been floundering for almost 30 years.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Reagan was the 1970s version of a reality show star. this isn't new.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'The US bailouts fail by protecting corporations and equity holders that should fail.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Everything every candidate has ever said is like the equivilent of saying you'll put out a fire on a tree when the entire forest is on fire' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'That's just standard economic theory anyway, sometimes it's right.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Tinada: I don't fully disagree. and it's not standard economic theory, at least not the prevailing modern economic theories.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but the overall positives outweighed the negatives from the bailouts and the taxpayers ended up profiting on many of them.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'No it doesn't' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'As long as america is run by capitalism, it'll never improve, and keep heading to the shit pile' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Japan is doing about as well as the west if you adjust for demographic changes.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada peers intently at Rake. T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Rake: what else has worked? the US is in a better spot right now than almost any other country in the world economically.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'Yeah that makes total sense.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'America never got better because it was capitalistic...okayyyy, you should probably read some history books.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'The US isn't ahead in any single aspect, I think you need to do some research' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Japan has crippling economic problems that they haven't been able to solve. Abenomics has been a flop. young people can't fulltime jobs until their 30s because everything is based on seniority.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'can't get fulltime jobs*' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'US is mediocre at everything, and excels at nothing' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'absolutely not true.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'wrt. Trump: he's much better at appealing to your instincts/system 1/whatever you want to call it, and, let's face it, even the people who don't qualify as "low-information voters", are mostly clueless/run on heuristics and emotions.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Trump supporters are mostly people who are afraid of terrorism and want an authoritarian leader.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'okay lets see then' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Us has the highest income inequality' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'almost the worst unemployment rates' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the US does not have the highest income inequality or unemployment rates. what are you talking about?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'largest class gap in any country by miles' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Are you serious, do you do any research at all' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'seems India would win that game' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'how are you measuring class gap?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'The US has larger inequalities than Western Europe, but most countries aren't in Western Europe.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'Who gives a fuck what the class gap is? If people wanna be lazy and not achieve anythin thats THEIR decision.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'No, india is poor, but have very good income equality' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Waaaaaay better than US' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'what measure are you using?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'Income equality shouldn't even be a fuckin metric anyway.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'GINI coefficient plops the US somewhere in the middle for income inequality but that's because we have an unusually high number of billionaires skewing the scale.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'thats so wrong Cares - doctors kids become doctors very often. bums's kids become bums. often. they have researched that a LOT' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Not to mention that US has almost the worst educational literacy of every country' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'and US unemployment is very low' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '"worst eeducational literacy" what are you even talking about lol' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'can you use the terms of the measures you're referring to instead of inventing things if you're claiming that you're the only one who has "done the research"?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Look at mathetmatics, the average OECD score was around 494' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Highest was china I think with 550 or so' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why? this is a debate channel' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'US scored 368' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Almost the bare minimum' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'In science, US sscored 373, average was 450' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Basically, US is the worst educational country in the entire OECD' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'It's not just the billionaires, it's all across the scale. Norway is, on average, a richer country than the US, but the top 10% in the US are twice as rich as the top 10% in Norway, and that's even with Norway having a slightly higher per capita # of billionaires.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'Abolish the NEA and watch the score go up' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Cares/Anne: you're being tricked by politicians again :p' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'No, I'm just learning from history' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Only thing US almost excels at, only beat by Greece, is obesity' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'There's literally no aspect of the US that they are #1 at' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'makes sense when you're just making things up as you go' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'And also not really makin any point at same time...' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'The US has been quite good at making things up as they go.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '(Mexico is the country with a higher obesity rate than the US.)' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'partly fuelled by the inflow of smart foreigners..' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'I was making my point as, no candidate will ever amount to anything unless it was some financial benefit that capitalists can benefit from' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Which is why I always laugh when people say bernie will fix this, or hillary will fix that' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'barely... and us childhood obesity is insane' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'At least there is an easy fix for obesity.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'The only thing candidates and presidents are good for is a figure head, giving the US citizens a false sense of having some measure of power or say' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Rake: you're looking at a bunch of unrelated factors and saying, "the US isn't #1 here or there, so how can the US be any good at all?"' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'conceptually easy, that is' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'if you have a good easy fix for obesity, I'd suggest you patent it, cause you're worth a fortune' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'LeBron James is the best basketball player in the world, but there's not a single thing he does better than anybody else. apply your argument to basketball and you'd be saying he's a terrible basketball player because he's not the best at anything.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'The easy fix is to stop eating that kind of food that forces your body to partition lots of energy into fat storage in order to survive in the short term.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'The fact that LeBron James makes so much money for putting a ball into a circle is basically proving my point' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'and I don't really think you can patent not eating a high carb diet..' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'LeBron is underpaid for the income he generates for his employers' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'evidence shows, I think, that this is not easy. Nor is surgical removal of fat' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but, again, that's another argument :p' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Exactly, there's no reason to pay LeBronn so much, other than the fact that he makes other people more money, basically US in a nutshell. Nothing happens unless someone makes money off it' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the US has low unempoyment, high GDP per capita, a manageable debt to GDP ratio, isn't reliant on any single industry or commodity, and has a fair to strong economic outlook moving forward. you're saying the economy sucks because Macau did better on a science test.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'It's not 100% reliable, there are other complications, like hypthyroidism-stuff, but the great majority of cases of obesity are likely caused by forcing those homeostatic mechanisms to fatten you up to keep you alive.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so if LeBron is generating $200m a year for the Cavs, NBA, Nike, Gatorade, etc., how much SHOULD he be making for that work and who gets to decide it if it's not the free market?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'There is no way to "fix" obesity without some sort of extreme force. You can only encourage indiviuals to fix it themselves.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'that nr1 thing aint worth the fuss. ok life or "getting by" starts from hm.. where Poland is right now. Czech republic is a little behind. Well something like that. that nr1 is the most absurd when some drunk Russian starts yelling how awesome he is because he is Russian. ' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'don't mean to offend any Russians but those crazy people:P' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'or are you the type of person who thinks a 16 year old who writes a book should make as much money of JK Rowling because of "fairness"?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'That's why I said it was conceptually easy. It still took me about 1,5 years to switch properly after reading more research than I like to think about.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '(the idea that all athletes are overpaid is mostly racism and poor understanding of how money works)' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Athletes are a race now?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'sounds like peak PC/SJW' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the idea that money works is a poor understanding of reality' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aterius: 'works just means it motivates others to work' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I'm not sure what to chalk it up to other than ignorance. 500 mostly black athletes make millions of dollars and their overpaid, but 30 mostly white team owners make billions off of those athletes and they need to take money from the athletes?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '(they're, not their)' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'team owners impose a salary cap to keep salaries artifically low, then get tax money to help them build arenas to make more money. nobody says team owners make too much money, it's always athletes make too much money. why?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the difference is that the athletes have a skill, while the owners have capital. It offends our ideal of society that anyone should earn money by doing something rather than owning something.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'No, it's the fact that someone putting a ball into a circle, or singing a song, or throwing a oval leather sack far shouldn't make millions when US has insane money problems' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Rake: it's not a zero sum game. you know that, right?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'LeBron earning $200m/year is not taking money away from anyone else.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'The fact that person who throws an oval sack far makes more money than anyone in the education system is a problem' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'where is it coming from them Bishoujo?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aterius: 'those same people in poverty still spend their money on things related to thoe3 games' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Rake: why?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'because capital is supposed to essentially reflect accumulated work time/sacrificed consumption. and being the owner of a company involves the kind of risk that no worker ever takes' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Because it shows that sports are higher rated than education' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Rake: how so?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'I'm not saying it costs anyone money, I'm saying people will aspire to a career in sports over something educational' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'because Bishoujo if we value the facile above the future then we have a poor society' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'it shows that we care more about sports than education. if that's considered a problem, then the problem is with our own priorities and daily choices' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so if we don't let the market decide these things, who decides it?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'No one questions when a football player gets a multi million dollar signing bonus, but teachers asking for a raise is WW3' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'we could try democracy, for example' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'It shows something about the distribution of income and "value production" in the two respective systems.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Overall we spend (and waste) rather more money on education than on sports' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so do we vote on what each individual gets paid, or do we vote ourselves into feudalism?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'but at least education isn't just a spectator sport..' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada grins evilly. T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I vote by spending my time and money on something else than sports.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'reduction to absurdity is, of course, a logical fallacy' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the average football player is out of the league within a season or two with maybe 7 digits worth of cash under their belt to go along with a lifetime of physical impairment' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'debate If LeBron was paid 50 million instead of 200 million, that would be enough to give 15000 teachers a 10,000$ year raise, if it was possible' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Swalec: capitalism and democracy are not mutually exclusive. I'm trying to understand how we let something other than supply and demand dictate an individual's salary.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'other than stadium subsidies/tax breaks to move to city, pro sports teams don't cost anyone other than the people who choose to pay for them...education costs everyone whether they have kids or not...' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'but Tinada that is not voting because your net worth is far less than other members of society.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'Yeah except almost every sports stadium is built with taxpayers money' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'democracy can be used to create the rules around which capitalism operates.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'to bring money to their town' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Bishoujo yeah, they are, at least the way that they are going. The can work together, to an extent, but they are not happy bedfellows' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'all sports stadiums bring more money to the taxpayer economy than teachers' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rake: 'It doesn't bring money to the town, look at any olympics for an example' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I agree that taxpayer money going to building stadiums is a bad system, but that's lining the pockets of team owners, not athletes. you were complaining about athletes being overpaid, not successful business owners who hold taxpayers hostage.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it does' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'some people have more votes than me, sure' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'so, why is this not happening then? In the US capital owns the media, capital bankrolls both sides in democracy' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the olympics aren't a sports stadium, they're a major event like the DNC' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'so, Tinada, it's not a vote. It's like saying that a martial society is a democracy because I vote by killing everyone who disagrees with me' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'as long as the live ones vote to keep you in :-)' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs in response to Swalec's question. T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Swalec: it IS happening. our system is far from perfect, but it's more effective than most other systems.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Call it whatever you like.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'probably half the world's dictators are technically democracies by that very technique' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'it's an old argument and it was nonsense when Friedmen made it, and it's it's nonsense now' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '"Ankh-Morpork had dallied with many forms of government and had ended up with that form of democracy known as One Man, One Vote. The Patrician was the Man; he had the Vote."' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'more effective at what? The US has massive levels of inequality, mass poverity and has the highest level of debt of any society.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I don't consider inequality to be a bad thing' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'the market is the only way to rationally determine the pricing of goods. no actor or group of actors has enough knowledge to do so' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'and debt makes people run around and do their jobs:P' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'this is well illustrated in "I, pencil"' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the market is not rational, by definition.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'and if the market is the only way to do it, how come it happened before the market was invented' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'income inequality isn't necessarily a problem, it's just a thing. I would disagree with mass poverty and debt.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'please elaborate' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'US has the highest total amount of external debt, but not an unusual amount of debt per capita or as a percentage of GDP' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Swalec: the western economic system before capitalism was feudalism.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'external debt, yes, which will be a problem for the US at some point' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I disagree with that to' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '+o' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'as long as the US has control over its currency, external debt is not a significant issue' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Bishoujo that's really not true, there was a lot of variation between fuedalism and the deification of the free market' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'it could be a compounding factor if something bad happened, like we let a bunch of banks and insurance companies fail, but it's not something that can cause anything bad on its own.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'indeed, even since it was invented we have not had a continuous free market -- it has come and gone. Now it is strong, but hopefully it will not last' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the level of restrictions on capitalism has ebb and flow to it and varies by country, but the other systems that exist involve somebody dictating how resources are allocated instead of letting supply/demand sort it out.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'even socialism is basically capitalism with strong labor laws and safety nets.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'supply and demand is not a thing -- it's people. The market is not magic, or a natural force. It's just dictation by an oligarchy.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'what oligarch dictates the price I list my car at on Craigslist?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'or how much I pay for a house?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'it's called a bank' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so how did prices crash in 2008?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gurneyhallek: 'called an appraiser' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gurneyhallek: 'called supply and demand' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'only necessarily involves an appraiser if you're borrowing money that you don't have' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the value of a house is almost entirely determined by the availability of debt -- of course, you can put any value you like on it, because it will not sell if you ask for a price outside of what the bank has decided you can sell for' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'banks did drive the prices up, but they did so by driving demand with risky mortgages, not by dictating prices.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'if you own a house you get to dictate the price it sells for' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'A social democracy (which Americans often call "socialism" when it happens in Europe and "liberalism" when it happens in the US), is capitalism with an extra helping of redistribution.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'so the market dictates to you -- and by market, we mean the large capital owners. of course, you have some freedom, but then, that's true in all dictatorships.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'and it works quite well in a homogenous society' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you get to dictate whether it sells...the buyer gets to dictate what it sells for...' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gurneyhallek: 'not really there are multiable things that come into play on house.. but location location location' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and the current level of involvement of banks via fiat currency and fractional-reserve banking isn't an essential piece of capitalism' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '"the market dictates to you" exactly!' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Bishoujo you get to decide what price you ask, not what price you sell for' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'you can charge any price that somebody is willing to pay' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that is the market dictating price' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gurneyhallek: 'that is correct' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gurneyhallek: 'but if you want to sell your property you have to do it at a market level' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'technically you only HAVE to if you're interested in actually selling it' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'but the price that someone is willing to pay is determined largely by large capital owners. call it "the market" if you like to give it some appearance of a natural force, but it is not. It's a decision that in our society, we give the ability to make decisions to a few' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'there is not some shady group of people out there deciding which housing markets are going up and down' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'itz the illuminati!!' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'they're secretly deciding how much i'm allowed to buy that babe ruth card off of ebay for!' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'no, they are not shady, we know who they are. ' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'yes, the prevailing market rate and availability of capital factors in, but it's largely determined by supply and demand.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'who?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'and why is it that their decisions always seem to coincide with changes in supply and demand? :p' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I told you already, the main lenders, and the regulatory system which (sort of) regulates them.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so why do buyers/sellers outside the lending system adhere to the same prices if they don't have to?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'well, they don't.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'do you have an example? honest question.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'well, there is a not particularly shady group of people trying to keep housing prices from going down' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'something where a house sold for substantially more or less than its market value because the buyer and seller were outside of the tightly controlled pricing system you suggest exists' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yes -- the bank of England sets the base rate, which controls the house prices' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bishoujo Raded rapidly nods twice at Tinada, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'well housing is heavily impacted by our government for sure, but that's not a free market that's government interventionalism' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the base rate dictates lending rates which can impact demand, I guess. but that's hardly control.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'government intervention is a fundamental part of the free market' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'that's why government spending increased under both Thatcher, Reagan and even Pinochet' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'LIBOR is low, people might make buying purchases sooner and get larger mortgages. LIBOR is high they might delay purchases and get smaller mortgages. but that is far from dictating prices for individual sales' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'intervention is a fundamental part of Keynesian economic theory, which is what most wealthy countries base decisions on' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'n' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'mis...' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'that's true, although it remains to be seen whether the switch to keynesianism will be their downfall' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I don't disgaree that there's intervention. heavy intervention in some markets. but supply/demand is the strongest factor for determining prices in almost every market.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and i agree with you on that too' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'we've moved away from Keysianism, but then, again, if the free market does not require government intervention, why has it always been bought in by massive government intervention -- from the coup and violence of Pinochet, through to the conflict and police violence of Thatcher, to the massive increase in military spending of Reagen' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'it's not required, but the heads of government are incentivized to engage in things like quantitative easing and increases in the money supply to try to dilute their debts' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'we also have the IMF, the World Bank, enormous numbers of trade organisations, whose sole job is to promote the "free market". It's about as natural as the divine right of kings' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'if it has not required, Trist, then have you got an example of where a Friedmanite type free market has happened naturally?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'huge, macro-level interventions don't always have a big impact on the market. I think that speaks to the power of supply/demand as much as it does to the difficulty of intervention.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Hong Kong is probably the closest we have to an example of Friedman policies.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'or that the our governmental forms are ineffective, and have become more so over the years' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Hong Kong? Free of government intervention? Are we talking about the small island controlled original directly from the UK (without full democracy) and now controlled by the Chinese?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I agree that brute force interventions have become less effective, but not ineffective or bad.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Hong Kong between the 1950s and 1999 when the UK owned it but mostly did not intervene with the economy' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cyrn: 'whois' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'the usa had a much more free monetary policy prior to the early 1900s' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i think ultimately governments tend to expand their powers over time, which goes hand in hand with intervetionalism' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the UK had a massive impact on the economy -- it controlled who could enter, who could leave' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Trist, governments can increase in power, but that includes the "free market" ones -- the Thatcher controlled far more of the economy than the post-war Labour adminstration for instance ' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I never said it was a perfect example, just the best example :p' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'it was an area allowed to develop with minimal government intervention in its economy' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'yes swalec, government expansionism is an inherent quality of government, independent of monetary policy/economy' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'and, yet, all the other examples involve massive state intervention' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'it doesn't mean that the periods of a more free market aren't to be desired simply because they are eventually overrun by interventionalism' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Trist, indeed. The free market is not to be desired for other reasons entirely -- largely because of the massive dislocations taht they produce in our society, their instability and the massive increases in inequality that they cause' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'but, my point is that the interventionism is not a counter-point to the free market -- it is a necessary feature of it' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'all other examples have massive state intervention because that's how human societies tend to work, independent of the economic system.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'until very recent history, the government was mostly responsible for maintaining a military to keep other countries out. it's only been a very short period of human history where that is not a large concern.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'anyway, done blowing off steam on debate, gonna shut it back off :p' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bishoujo Raded misses the 'v' and wabes. T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i don't think you've proven that swalec. simply saying that free markets have historically led to interventionalism over a long enough period of time does not show any type of causation.' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'by that token i might conclude that having any government at all inevitably leads to wars, interventionalism, and a number of other undesirable conditions' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I did noy say that -- it is the other way around -- the intervention is how the free market came in' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'ok regarding the inception of the free market in a country with an existing government and alternative economy' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'how else could a change come about other than a government choice to do so (aka intervention)?' T3/r7/2016-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'change can come in many ways -- the fall of the white russia did not come from government intervention' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Why do people think Trump would pick a career politician for vp?' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'thinking he will do it to get hard core GOP' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'Why havent we just flown drone over North Korea and leveled his palaces and military bases yet? I really do not understand.' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'It could be over without sending a single troop.' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'because unrest in the far east is economically beneficial to the west?' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'because they have huge army' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'meaning many people. so many people would be killed' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'We werent concerned about how many we killed with shock and awe... Why would we give a crap about a country that has constantly threated nuclear war?' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'because a bogeyman fails of his purpose once he is dead' T3/r7/2016-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec is agreeing with that Swalec person again... T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Christie endorses Trump?' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I suppose the establishment didn't survive as long as it has without a certain capacity for reorientation' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'A nightstand is a poor place for a firearm. Gun suicides outnumber gun homicides in the US.' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'Trist, I would love to hear more about your pro-killing arguments here' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'sure, you can elaborate on your "lay-down-and-take-it" mentality too :)' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'gladly, except I didn't support submitting to the intruder. I am saying that you could handle the situation without firearms' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'how? waiting for the police to arrive in an undetermined amount of time? some less efficient weapon?' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'reasoning with them? :)' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'allow me to give an example' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'imagine a burglar who entered your living room, whose intention is to steal your worthy items for a later conversion into money, so he can afford his daughters medications' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'and imagine you shoot him in the face' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'I am trying to say that not everything is black and white, and you might end up regretting what you have done' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'He deserves to be shot for breaking into my home and putting my family at risk ' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'why the fuck woudl I care about his "intentions"' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i might. i might also regret it if this burglar actually entered my living room intending to rape my infant son, and succeeding in doing so because i told myself "well, there's only a 1/25 chance he will hurt any of us so i'm unwilling to use force"' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Duels is agreeing with that Trist person again... T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i can mitigate the risk of the former by yelling out to the intruder and/or firing a warning shot and/or *attempting* to aim nonlethally in subsequent shots' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'but my ability to mitigate the risk of the latter scenario without a firearm is very limited' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'and if the intruder has a firearm what are you going to do to protect yourself?' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'so after you shoot the guy in the face, your child wakes up and sees the corpse, you will justify your actions?' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'deffinately' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'absolutely' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'better than justifying my inactions to my wife upon seeing my child's corpse' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'there's the paranoia' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'all my children of the proper age are trained in firearm use and safety' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'what I get out of this conversation is that a life has very little value :)' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'so your fear of a hypothetical scenario is not paranoia, but somehow mine is. please objectively make that distinction :)' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'its not parinoia ummm do you read the news like ever?' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'define "news"' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'there's a choice here, and you're right that there are risks with either decision. but there's a disproportionate amount of potential loss on my end on one side, so i will weigh it accordingly' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'lolololol' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'I don't believe in mainstream news and I don't respect mainstream news.' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'do you believe in facts? lol' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'that's not paranoia either, though, right? :) ' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vyhn: '<3 npr' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'obviously not' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'it's only paranoia when people have different concerns than you do' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'your paranoid but I dont believ in any news lollolololol' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'Trist, what I say has nothing to do with paranoia. I always doubt the contents of the mainstream news and reconsider it in the whole context.' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'one way of looking at your statement, Trist, is that you don't that others' lives are valuable enough for you to do something that may require work in order to preserve them. In other words, shot first and ask questions later is certainly much easier to implement than actually trying to figure out what the others' intentions are.' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'that is because in the past I have personally seen I don't know how many times that the mainstream media have manipulated people on purpose' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'aphelion, you're misrepresenting my position. i clearly advocated for attempting to communicate, warn, and take other possible actions before shooting (aka ask first and then shoot later)' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'if they are a threat to me or my loved ones liofe then ya their life doenst matter at all' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'like at all' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and we're not talking about being 'unwilling to work' we're talking about being 'unwilling to lose', as in losing the safety/life of a family member' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and valuing the lives of family members vs those of invading criminals' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Duels is agreeing with that Trist person again... T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Duels, we live immersed in a world of threats. The nurturing environment is also deadly. What one can expect from such position is that one day you will firebomb your neighbors just in case they had evil intentions toward you. ' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'again, a huge exaggeration and misrepresentation unbased on anything i've said' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i'm talking purely about defense from within the house that i own and reside in' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'that is the paranoia I was talking about, and I think Aphelion explained it in own words' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'not the "preemptive self-defense" of my govt, lol' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'lol im willing to protect my family so that means I will somhow be paranoid to kill my neighbors because i think they MIGHT be a threat? lololol' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'right, i'm paranoid. but don't trust the news, man... they're out to get you!' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'Im talkin about t\taking out imediat threats' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'if you were aware of your paranoia we wouldn't be having this argument :) I invite you to consider this argument as an invitation to rethink the whole context' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and there's a chance you could be depriving a child of medication by harming this intruder who is impinging upon the safety of your own child.' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'likewise, of course' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the problem is that this is the kind of thinking that leads to "opps, I thought he was going to hurt me" type shooting when the one shot didn't even know you were alive.' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'Rein i dont understand what your argument has base in tbh' T3/r7/2016-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: '... and yes, don't trust the news blindly. Rethink, and then if you decide it makes sense, it's up to you. If not, you always have Google at your service.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I shouldnt kill an intruder because they MIGHT not harm me or my fam and they MIGHT be doing it because they need to? um what?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'heh, don't trust the media at all.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'yes, aphelion, please keep blinding ignoring the important step of warning the intruder that i've reiterated numerous times now. it might it impossible to keep repeating your fantastic vision of "everyone with a gun shoots first and asks questions later!"' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I disagree on trist on this if you break into my home I will shoot first' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sorry, people never get shot because the shooter mistakenly thought they were a threat. My apologies.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'no duels. we don't have a specific example at hand, so both sides are talking about different things about the same topic. I am not saying that you shouldn't protect your family. I am saying that having firearms and using them to 'defend' yourself is highly controversial.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'yes, your'e right; if one person has done it that means all people must do it aphelion' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and duels, i don't deny your right to do so.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the thing is that with this philosophy you can be expected to be shot for no reason also, since you are admitting you will shot the wrong person if you think it's necessary. They may do something preemptive toward you.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'reincore if i'm understanding your position, your feeling is that invasion deterrent is fair and warranted (stronger doors, security system etc), but if an invasion happens anyway and you happen to detect it, well then hope for the best?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'So, I do live in a dangerous downtown area. And the threat is not from "robbers" and "thieves". It is from people who have been deprived of proper mental health care, who have been deprived of proper food and housing and have lost their way, from vets who have no support from our government and have PTSD. They might just try to get into your house one day or one night. Not really intending to hurt you or yours, but to stay alive another day. And you would gun them down in cold blood, not even thinking if they were armed? You need to see the real world.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'aphelion: i'm admitting in the context of my own home at night im' willing to shoot someone who breaks in, seems threatening, and is unwilling to leave. it's not really preemptive once they're already in your home' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'no. you have the right to protect yourself and your loved ones, humanely. I hope none of us has to experience such a thing, but if you desperately want to hurt the intruder in the name of self-defense, you can always use other things, say, blunt weapons or whatever. I am not going to advocate weapons in this context, but with firearms you won't be doing anyone any good, including yourself and your loved ones.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so if I have something that rolls onto your lawn in the middle of the night, I can expect to be shot if I try to retrieve it. Because my intrusion can be conveniently seen as an assault.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I don't really care one way or other. I am just showing you that trying to make ethical justifications for violence doesn't work. What causes you to attack someone just on the basis of perception is not particularly rational.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the "rational" part is the attempts at justification that come later. "Well, I thought..."' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the truth of the matter is that very little thinking was involved.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'your argument completely ignores any notion of personal space, or self-defense. maybe you don't believe in either, i don't know. but the same risk of post-incident justification exists for after your family member is injured/killed "i didn't think..."' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and someone on your lawn is a completely different world than someone in your house or walking upstairs to the the sleeping area of the house' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'always de-esculate situations, never esculate unnless you fear for your immediate life or someone elses life' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Iyes, sure, but people have been shot for entering someone's lawn. The shooter then goes "Well, I thought..."' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the point is that self-defense is not rational, though the methodology may be. Fear is instinctive. The problem is that now people are trying to tie fear reflexes with ethical positions.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'lol I wouldnt shoot someone for being in my lawn' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'breaking into my house at 12 AM thats a diff matter' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'maybe you wouldn't, but that's not too much of a guarantee.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'If I did there would be a lot of dead wild turkeys' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it is undoubted that there is someone out there that would shoot someone for entering their lawn.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'for sure but those are the same ind of crazy people that would kill for other reasons' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'you cant compare that to someone who would shoot someone in defense' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if only a tenth of one percent of the people are that crazy we are in a world of hurt alrady.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'There is not a lot scarier thing than a wild turkey landing on your roof on the way to your lawn' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and there are those that would shoot someone and claim that they thought it was a wild turkey :)' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I live in an open carry state and in a small town... proably at least 5% of people here open carry.. guess how many shooting deatsh weve had in the last 5 years' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: '1' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I mean bow many people have been shoot allegedly because they were confused with game?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I had not thought of shooting the turkey and claiming I thought it was an invader. Genius!' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if the population doesn't fluctuate. there is no need for any kind of carry so the statistics are worthless.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'aphelion i'm sure there is someone who would shoot someone for entering their lawn. i'm not that person though so arguing against that viewpoint with me is kind of pointless' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and therein lies the rub, it's ok that 1 in 1 million gets accidentally (or otherwise) while entering someone's lawn. We can live with that margin of error :)' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'who said it was okay? i'm not really sure what you're arguing here' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'So get back to my meth head, or PTSD, or just out of it person who means you no harm and does not even know you are home, but opens your door.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'as long as we are not the one shot, it's deplorable if hit happens but acceptable.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I own a 9mm semi a .30-06 rifle a .22 revolver and a .22 marlin rifle' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'so your idea is that there should be no guns allowed because there is at least 1 crazy person out there who might hurt someone else if they get a gun?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'the only one loaded is the 9mm and its my home defense gun' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'ok, here is how it works. If I ever get pissed off at someone bad enough I might try to break their jaw, they can count on not being shot by me because I don't own a gun. No one can say that abouty you, Duels.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'why do you have the others then, if I may ask Duels?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Oh, that is dangerous. A 9mm is just going to anger an armed and aggressive intruder' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'and then we step into the only criminals should have guns arguement... cus guess what crims wil always have guns' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'lol arnica' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'of course, you may consider that pissing you off is a crime punishable by death, and you may be right.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'ummm take a 9mm hollowpoint and see if your just "pissed off"' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'not to mention you can probably hold quite a few 9mm rounds. mine holds 17 in the clip' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'mine only holds 9 shots but thats plenty lol and i can get clips that hold ore' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'a serious intruder in kevlar with 12 gauge would make your place vanish' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'lmao what kind of scenarios are thes in your head arnica?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'but the seriuos intruder in kevlar and a 12 gauge wouldn't do anything malicious at all if he was unarmed i bet' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'the argument that criminals will always have guns are flawed, by its core. Thats just fear mongering, people use what they can get their hands on' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'he's just there for medicine!' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i mean if the homeowner was unarmed' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'the scenarios you are making up of a SWAT Raid' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'crims will always have guns... not all crims will have guns but guns will always be avail to thos ewho want them' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'at this point I'd like to say that it's not even about the intrusion anymore. I simply find the fact that firearms, self defense, intruders and related concepts occupy too much room in your consciousness that it drives you thinking way too much about these things, which I personally find unhealthy. I am not saying it is wrong in this sentence, mind you.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'I never imagined of owning a weapon to defend myself' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'Most of the time your not dealing, with planned organized crime who will equip themself to the teeth, your just dealing with crime of oppertunity' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i could argue the same about you, based on the narrow context of this isolated debate conversation on aardwolf on this particular night' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'face it everything else, you just kill some dumb fuck' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'so if someone with a kevlar vest and a 12 gauge invade my home im better off unarmed... lol were you dropped as a kid?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i purchased a firearm, i sometimes shoot it at the range for fun, the rest of the time i don't think about it (except when someone starts making goofy generalizations in an argument like this)' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Yes, If a SWAT team invades your house, raise your hands' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'classy, trist. thanks' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the thing is that "good" guy or "bad" guy is just a construct. For the target anyone holding a gun is a bad guy, color of hat notwithstanding.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'yea the 9mm sits in its spot 99% of the time... the rifle is used for hunting and the 22s are used for fun/target practice' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'your not a bad guy if you hold a gun lmao but you are if you are breaking into someones home' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'again, define "bad"' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: '"bad" someone breaking into your home' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'hurting someone can be bad.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'is that clear enough?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'So if someone breaks into your house in your absence they have a 9 mm?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'you make no sense' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'that is clear, but that is simply wrong and inaccurate to me duels.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'if they break into my home and im not there they arnt a threat' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'So if someone breaks into your house in your absence, is your 9 mm out on your nightstand?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'well no prob not if me and my fam arnt there its prob in my safe or with me... but if im not there then what is the worry even if they get my 9?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Duels, you think you are the one who decides who is the "good" guy and who is the "bad" and that your judgment is impeccable, as long as you are holding the gun. I bet you would disagree if the other party held the gun and labeled you as "bad" guy.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'they arnt an imediate threat to me and a gun is replaceable' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: ''good' and 'bad' are purely subjective, you're right. but we do have objective codifications of rules that protect our defined rights, etc. these are not decided upon by duels, but collectively by the voters in a jurisdiction' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I think you all are just scared of getting into an honest fist fight :)' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'um no if they are breaking into my home they arwe the bad guy ... if you dont get that then go back to coloring books' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'as long as i've been training mma, i'm fairly certain that would be the least of my worries lol' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'You had to think about that? Either you do not leave your house, or you routinely lkeave a weapon out.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'but getting into fights is the last thing in the world i'd want in my house in the middle of the night, you're right' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i keep my firearm in a quick access gun safe' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'wtf are you taling about arnica' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that's true Duels, but that also hold for "If I think they are breaking into my house" scenario, whether you are right or wrong. Which is the point. You are willing to take a life and then go into the "Well, I thought..." skit.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'you holding the gun at your own house doesn't make you a good guy, that's my point. the moment you hold a gun, to me you are on the edge of being a "bad guy".' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I have no prob taking their life' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'and that makes you a bad guy.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I wouldnt feel the LEAST bit guilty' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'thats a joke' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I hope rein' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'well, if taking a life doesn't bother you, that's not a good thing to me. maybe "bad" is too bold of a claim, I only used it because we've been sticking to that terminology in this argument' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'Duels why wouldnt you just get a safe near the nightstand and keep it in?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'the good news is your interpretation of what a 'bad guy' is, is of course, completely subjective. you're best off living with like-minded people in a jurisdiction with laws that support that kind of lifestyle' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'anyone threatens me or my fam life and we are in imiediate danger yea you can die and I dont care Ill even piss on your grave :P' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'That is correct, so you are no different from the "bad" guy and are just as much of a threat to society. I can't be safe near you because if you get a bug up your ass that i am a threat, I am a dead man. Whether I am an actual threat or not.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'cus a safe means more time to get to my gun' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'if anyone threatens your family, how come you piss on my grave' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'the other guns are in a safe' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yes, and by that argument I should take you out as soon as I notice you because you are, admittedly, a potential threat.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'wtf a bug in my ass... im talking about breaking into my home how is that a bug in my ass and how does that make me a threat?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'ah, you are going to claim here that you are a rational human being and not capable of shooting me by mistake. But your previous statements show that you will kill me without any hesitation if you are entertaining a fantasy that I am a theat.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'well game theory-wise, it would be in a criminal's best interest to just take out any people in the house who could possibly stop or identify them later' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'if they could do so quietly and undetected' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'threat*' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'so i agree, if you're this home invader, you should take me out pre-emptively' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'or invade a home that is unoccupied' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'except life isn't game theory and actual emotions are involved as well, along with logic' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'You simply have not seen enough family members dead by their own guns, Duels. I have seen far too many. Some accidental, the majority. Some intentional, the most tragic. A gun unsecured is a gun that will kill.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'wait, a home that is not occupied?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'but the fact that you're willing to invade an occupied home shows that you either a) somehow didn't notice the cars outside and other signs, b) think you are quiet enough to get away with it anyway, or c) are willing to do me harm to accomplish your objective' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'yes of course there are emotions involved, a wide variety' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'no, Trist, that is not quite true. That should read "but the fact is that IF I THINK you are willing to invade..."' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'because that is the whole point of the argument, that reality doesn't play a definitive role, your fantasy can be good enough to cause my death.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'jst a quick question... for those of you oppose to guns... what country do you live in?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i made a statement that started with "i agree" showing it was my opinion, which covers me not having to say "i think after each subsequent piece"' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I neve said I opposed guns. Though I may.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'I'm going to answer this by saying Europe.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I am just arguing against the justification behind a killing.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and the mere fact that we're discussing a completely opinion-based, subjective subject should show that every statement is based on what i think rather than a statement of objective reality (of which i have no access to), other than what the laws are' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'europe would be what i would have assumed' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'me too' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'or possibly a US college student' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'and America would be what I'd have assumed for you by your arguments' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'correctamundo' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'damn straight' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you mean that depending on one's genetic pool one is willing to kill without compulsion? That needs some proof.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: '"Every citizen should be a soldier.This was the case with the Greeks and Romans,and must be that of every free state."' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Duels, I do not oppose guns. I was raised with guns, learned gun safety before I was ten, and hunted. I have handguns, rifles=, and shotguns. I live in the USA. I will not use them on an intruder. Instead I have done two things. When I have to live in dangerous p[laces, I live in protected places. My personal property is in much more secure areas.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'you live in protected places? we dont all have that ' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'thank all nonexistant gods that not all citizens are soldiers.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that is a different situation. If everyone were a soldier we wouldn't be having this discussion. Soldiers would be aware of the risks and responsibilities on both sides of the argument, not to mentioned that they would both be armed likely enough. ' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'what are you talking about with genetic pools aphelion?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'armed and trained, so they would only act when the situation called for it rather than pull the trigger while wetting one's pants from fear.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'you assume a lot' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'you assume id pull the trigger if it wasnt a threat' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'less that you do. You assume that you are entitled to kill as long as you can come up with a "legal" reason.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'you are wrong' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'your definition of a threat is prone to manipulation and miscalculation, duels.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I assume I can kill in defense... i dont really really care what the reprocussions are' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'yet you advocate empowering yourself' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'how do you define 'entitled', if not by legal justification? by a religious one? some abstract personal moral code that you adhere to? does it disappoint you that everyone might not adhere to the same one?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'if I g to prison saving my fam then imok with that' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'The only major issue i have is, secure the gun, aim do de-esculate by reacting appriopiate to the situations that arrive. ' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Agreed' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'indeed, there is manipulation on my part. There is also manipulation on your part, because you are being pro active with your weapon and know that people will look askance. So as you shoot you create a "rational" scenario to justify. Now, it is quite possible that you were entitled to take that action, but that is also clear that you are willing to make a mistake and deplore the necessary collateral damage.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i am on board with that personally' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'And i counter with ...if you are breaking into my home its best to assume your intentions are bad and its better to remove the threat then "see what happens"' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'all actions are accompanied with a chance of mistake, aphelion. to completely avoid the chance of error would be to lie in complete inaction' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malius: 'absolutly duels...dont even hesitate to pull that trigger and blow them off the planet' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'exactly this bothers me in your sentences. the "threat" you are "eliminating" is a human being. and I am not okay with the idea that you are okay with taking a life in cold blood, based on your assumptions.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'right, I am happy that you are on board with it Tritst :) I am hopeful that if you are the one at the sharp end of the stick you will accept being collateral damage :)' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'if eliminating that threat save me or my fam then good... if not then they shouldnt have been breakinginto my house in the first place' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'My issue is that is sounds like Duels wants, actually desires to live in a Mad Max world' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'glad to see you taking the high road in hoping i come to personal harm, lol' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'id willing go to prison for trying to defend my fam' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i won't wish the same for you, i hope your victim mentality ends up working out for you anyway and you have a safe and long life' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'okay I am tired of reading the same arguments because no matter what I say they don't change. I hope you live new things and gather new experiences and your ideas will be more flexible in the future.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'again, you act as if reality backs you up unconditionally. The best you can say is "What I thought to be a threat..." and hope we believe you didn't mean to shoot the innocent person.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'and if someone comes nto your home to rape your children Rein I hope you have more then words to defend them' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'fearmongering' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I would help you put them down, Duels. But not everyone who enters your lawn is a rapist.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'but everyone who enter your home unwanted is a threat' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'wow my children just got raped for you to prove your point' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you are not will to make sure they are, you are willing to kill them and they go "Oh, my bad..." and go on with your life after you extinguished there because of a fantasy.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'and Im sorry you werent able to denfend yourself from it with aything but words... me on the othr hand ill just shoot em' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'and what they were justified in breaking into my home?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if you need a fait accompli to judge one's intention you shouldn't be allowed to cross the street without a guard.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'you don't know me, you don't know my means of defending myself, you don't know my life, you don't know my family. Yet you don't find it rude to make scenarios about my life, where my children get raped according to you' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'I wish you some common sense dear Duels, and some manners. Also suggest reading about the concept of "ad hominem" as you wander around the borders of it' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Reincore: 'I no longer feel like this is a debate based on arguments. Good night everyone.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'good night' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'you don't know me, you don't know my means of defending myself, you don't know my life, you don't know my family. ' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'but at least I will defend them' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the point is that you don't clarify what "breaking into my home means". Technically, walking on your lawn constitutes a break in.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'sorry your fam doesnt have the same security' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and you already have said you are willing to shoot someone that odes.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'maybe it does where you're from, but breaking into your house here is clearly defined as being inside of your house :P' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'does*' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'I allready said I wouldnt shoot someone for waling on my lawn but breakign into my locked home yea... your dead' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'Last option should be to use lethal force, not first. ' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'not if you break into my house' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'i agree with that, but it should remain an option.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'your dead before you can even take in the surroundings' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'boohoo' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Duels seems to be one of those that is just looking for an excuse to kill.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'sorry you wouldnt save your fam in the same way' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'bad for them' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'pussy move for you' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'how many people in your town have been killed lately by randorm looters who kill whole families duel' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'you said before 0' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'ummm want me to show police reports' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'that means its all in your head' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I would, if had to. I wouldn't walk around going "I hope some mf breaks into my house so I can blow his ass away"' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'it happens' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'lmao' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so perhaps what is at issue is your attitude :)' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'prove your pont by putting words in my mouth?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'i never said that you did' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'no, I am not putting words in your mouth, I am just showing how you look to me :)' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Duels: 'thats YOUR parinoia' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'honest question aphelion. if a homeowner is armed and posted at the top of the stairs to their top floor (bedrooms), shouts a warning that they're armed and not to come upstairs (possibly with warning shot), and the intruder proceeds upstairs anyway, does that constitute a threat to you?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'not trying to convince you of anything, i'm genuinely curious' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'and if not, at what point could a threat be determined?' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if an intruder enters my house and I perceive them to be a threat, which your scenario clears shows they are, I would blow them away.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'thanks' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and probably would need therapy for a long time thereafter.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'But you haven't exhausted the tea nad crumpets option' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'If I gave the impression that a life should not be taken in one's defense then I apologize. My argument is against the taking of life with what amounts as depraved indifference as long as one can generate a justifying scenario.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'This is where you hand them a metal fork, tell them the toaster sticks and ask them to fish out the crumpets. Then jar their arm to contact fork to toaster element' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'There is the Vizzini route to consider. Poison a cup of tea and play headgames with the intruder.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'and put on Halestorm at 75% volume' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Freak Like Me gets them every time' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'with modern technology as it stands, shooting someone who breaks into your house seems to be the cheap and lowbrow way out. You could make your house break-in-proof with the firing of a bullet the last remote resort.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Wait They cant afford to get out of danger zone' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'If they were a zombie, I would say shoot them before the Supreme Court says that zombies are people with rights.' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It is all self invited angst' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Zombies are people my friends' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'they just want sustenance like the rest of us' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I did find the US Policy that defines corporations as people' T3/r7/2016-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica gathers a group of zombies and incorporates them as Zombies United T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: '#BlackCrimesMatter' T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: '#MakeTrumpDrumpfAgain' T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'You racist, you won't even condemn the KKK' T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'My bad. #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain #SorryJonOliver' T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Jon Oliver isn't as funny as he thinks he is' T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'most people aren't' T3/r7/2016-02-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'last week tonight roolz yall.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'all ur base belongs to special interest groupz :P' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'wait - special as in unique snowflake, or special as in short-bus? ya have to ask, cause you know - politics.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'while all unique are special not all special are unique...' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Did the world exist before the internet? Comment.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'hang on, lemme google that' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Is this a chicken/egg question?' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you didn't mention which iteration of the world you are talking about.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'second life is really the matrix mark II' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I think the internet was invented in Big Bang 42.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'In the beginning there were Boy Bands, and Monkees roamed the Earth' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I thought it was ruled by Queen :)' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I love the monkees...davey was my favorite' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Nesmith's mother invented white out' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Aren't they going on tour this year?' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I thought white out was invented by the surfaris' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Elephant Parts was a transitional peice of work' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Funny, I have been listening to surf music for two weeks straight' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that explains it.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I've been listening to the soundtrack from La Hija del Mariachi :)' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'that explains it What? There was too much reverb to understand' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Nothing explains Arnica. Just nod, smile and don't make eye contact.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Arnica's eyes blaze with the pale blue light of the northern glaciers.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I take your point.' T3/r7/2016-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Now. lets get some interesting debate info going. Trump gets cozy with the KKK, but Ivanka, who I actually could see as a presidential candidate someday, has gone to Orthodox Judaism to raise her 2 (soon 3) kids. How will that get nasty play in the General?' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'ermagherd there iZ!' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hierophant: 'I don't think that any economic gain Trump might bring to the table is worth sitting through the racist and xenophobic culture he'll bring about in Washington.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'muhaaaa' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'well.. I don't personally think the presidents inspires a cultural movement anymore' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'but I don't disagree with your thoughts on the man' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'citalin I correct you. Bush burned my life savings that his party forced into the stock market by closing out pensions. Under Obama I not only recovered my lost savings, but more than doubled them during his time in office. Anyone is a fool to vote those creeps back into power. Out every single Republican today!' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'trump may be a good business man ... but for president' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Yajan nods at Garbanzo. T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'u cant really be serious' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if they US voters think they regretted electing Bush, they are going to become suicidal after they elect Trump :)' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'u could be right ' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Harperon: 'I wonder what a trump presidency would actually be. It's obvious he doesn't actually believe any of his current rhetoric.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Trump is a con man, he made his fortune by using the shell game. People who were stupid enough to do business with him (very large corporations) can't afford to call his game because they would collapse then. So he stays propped up.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'all developers use the shell game...it's called leveraged buying' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'agreed' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Yajan isn't even sure how to play the shell game.. but think he may have played it in a video game once... T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Yajan: 'Mario brothers maybe?' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'rofl' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I am not ashamed to say I liked Clinton :)' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'yeah the only mistake he made was not owning up the the bj' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I was in the deep south during Clinton, and I thought the attitude toward him was attrocious' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'with a little less greed the US could have entered some sort of golden age by using what Clinton left behind.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Well there is the whole West Coast seceds thing' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'yeah that will happen' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'everyone will just continue to bicker about state rights' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'with the new laws about cannabis west coast states are making money hand over fist' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'those states aren't going to give up that cash cow' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Garbanzo: 'doesn't matter who the president is' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'rubio or cruz? heh :)' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'GOP debate tonightn' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'GOP debate tonight, are you ready to rhetorically RRRRUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMBBBBLLLLLLEEEEE' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the really interesting question is, how related are the debates to what happens in the election' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'They have some importance, but most people's minds are made up.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'also, I think that there is a bias -- there is no doubt that Trump is bar the far most entertaining candidate' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He wouldn't be if the networks weren't so afraid to go after him with actual questions. MSNBC hosted debate, he was heard asking they not ask him anything difficult.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'are the candidates able to ask each other questions?' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'He would still be an entertaining candidate no matter what.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I don't think they can ask each other questions, but they sometimes talk to each other anyway.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Harperon: 'yeah, I think they're really not supposed to address each other at all' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'we have four week elections, which makes things a little easier to keep track on ' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'where are you from?' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'UK' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The 2020 race is all ready being started up before 2016 even concludes.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'when is the election? end of the year?' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'First Tuesday of November.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I was in the US during an election once -- very strange, it was really, really quiet' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I remember the pilot wasn't happy with the result, which came out during the flight' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'People, those who care to vote, tend to take elections very personally.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'the 45% that loose will be baffled by the 55% who are crazy enough to vote that way.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yeah, well, you have an interesting system like that -- in the UK, more people don't get who they vote for than do' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'in your case, that's fairly rare, and even when it does happen, it's not by much' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I'm not entirely sure I like our system. It forces a two party system, but all systems have their problems.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Most don't bother to know who the candidates are. They vote because they are democrat or republican. You could put a retarded, drooling monkey up as a nominee, and people will vote for it if they are nominated by their party choice.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'why does it force a two party system? just because it's first past the post? or because you have a president?' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I agree Taeryn that there are many many people like that.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'swalec: because it's first past the post without coalitions' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I think that this is not so true -- I normally vote the same way, but then they keep on putting up candidates with broadly the same opinions' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Because the parties in question funnel so much money that you'd have to be a billionaire (an actual one, not one who says they are) in order to compete, or be a hell of a salesperson to get the donations necessary.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'If say the tea party splits from the republican party and the votes are 20% tea 35% republican and 40% democrat, then the democrats win. 55% voted for conservative parties, but they get a liberal winner.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I mostly vote for one party, but will consider the canidate also.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yeah, we have a fixed campaign expenditure limit, which is a good idea I think' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'expenditure limit is still arbitrary and a strong limit would never pass. you could limit campaign duration like some countries do' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Which would not happen in this country in its current state. There is too much money to gain in campaigning.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'no, we have a strong limit -- you can spend so much, and it's all accounted for. It's why a lot of local electioneering happens using leaflets through doors.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I think a strong limit would never pass in the US' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'it probably won't happen here because of the freedom of the press in the first amendment.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'well, the press can spend what it likes -- we have freedom of the press, but most of our TV has a strong requirement for impartiality' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'anyway, enjoy the debate! It's late here, so I shall read about it tomorrow.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Harperon: 'how is the press required to be impartial?' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the press isn't -- the tv is' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Harperon: bbc mandate' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'They claim that here, but that isn't remotely the truth. The new networks sponsor candidates, skewing their bias immediately.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'the first amendment protects freedom of speech and freedom of the press, so that you can't stop people from spreading their opinions. ' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'if you are on public airways there are rules, on cable you can support whatever you want.' T3/r7/2016-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Harperon: 'do you have attack ads in the UK? if there is a purely attack ad that doesn't support any specific party how do they decide whose financial limit it is from?' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Donald Trump' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'that belongs on curse channel :P' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris is agreeing with that Wars person again... T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Hillari Clinton' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Marco Rubio' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Ted Cruz' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I can't figure out why when Ben Carson got so close to being the GOP candidate he dropped out/' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'he wasn't close to being the GOP candidate' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He fell asleep and people thought he dropped out.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'so who will it be? Trump or clinton as our next flawed Prez?' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Dont try to makes sense out of any of it. the fact that anyone would vote for hillary or trump is the only piece of info to know to realize were fucked. In a few years we will be watering our plants with gatoraid' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris falls down laughing. T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Yeah I'm not voting for either of them :P' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'we barely survived Obama' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'but he still has time to screw us' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I dont think we should of survived Obama' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'should have*' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Are you sure you did?' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Good question' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Im not an obama fan but I will tell you that imo it was a step up from bush. Clinton and trump will be another step down' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I agree, bush fucked up worse heh' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'I was not a fan of Bush but I sure missed him quickly after i saw what Obama was doing to the USA' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Exactly.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'you don't like 'change'?' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I don't like obamacare.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'The patriot act and the retarded war was far worse then anything obama has done' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'granted The Patriot Act really screwed innocent peple' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Oblama' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I don't however feel i am better off now then I was 8 years ago' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Donald Trump' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'Stages of intoxication: tipsy, drunk, shit-faced, drumpfkopf' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malius: 'tore back' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'when do we get to the talk about dicks? my standards for debate entertainment have been raised by previous precedent.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'trump and rubio have been discussing it' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You gently place your dick on Viscount Droki's shoulder. T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gener points at the dick in Droki's mouth :P T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'lucky he doesn't dislocate a jaw' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'i just want to know if hillary or bernie has the bigger dick' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'As a lifelong atheist, and kind of a crude and blunt person, I desperately wish I had the answer Bernie just gave throughout my life. Whether or not he wins any kind of election, as a guy who isn't a traditional Christian, he really knows how to play nice with them and appeal to their good nature.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'i suspect bernie is closer to atheist than not.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Atheist or not, at least he gave the more genuine answer.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'are you that naive?' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'there is no such thing as a genuine answer in politics.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and being 37 or 45% genuine is not being genuine anyway.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Perhaps you are right. Hillary does pray far more often. "I pray he dies." "Please make him suffer." "It's my turn, you better be fucking listening."' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'because genuine is an absolute.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'These religious questions are incredibly inappropriate. Bernie sharing his story of being the son of a holocaust refugee probably gained him more votes than most other answers tonight, but I'd still rather he never got the chance to give it.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'I don't know how ol' pastor Denise got into this debate, but her questions do not belong.' T3/r7/2016-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'well, people do forget that some of the holocaust survivors would have been in jail anyway. But, hey, the average voter intelligence is not significant enough to parse that.' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'hm. so they are driving with autopilots today in rl traffic. this cant be legal.' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'google can do whatever they want' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'until failsafe, should be banned. i know what a dumbass driver would do but can never be sure what the broken ai can come up with.' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'The google car got in several accidents. They claimed it as because the car follows traffic laws so perfectly that it's driving is unlike any human driver. So basically, people were slamming into it left and right.' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i never trust google. ' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'traffic is harder than any logic game' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean - we have trains that are sooo simple. yet there must be super sober and damn well trained teams watching over it. this new thing with cars is insane. it will not work' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'like... this is completely unsolvable - the car cant be sure that the scanned body is a human or an animal. cant know if to drive over the body or slam into a tree.' T3/r7/2016-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'how do they get permission to test it on real streets anyway?' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'I AM DANGEROUS' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'have you tried wrapping yourself in bubble wrap?' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i've been watching trump on hannity for about 26 mins..and he hasnt said anything yet.. i dont get how people eat this up' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'have you seen trump talk about 2+2, that's great' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'no policy, no facts, no how..just fluff rara' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He speaks to their intelligence level.' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'They haven't even watched him. A huge portion of American voters vote based on party affiliation + name recognition alone. His name is famous, and he's R. A large portion of his voters are voting because of that.' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'OMG..GO TEAM GO' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drin: 'I'm amazed how he is immune to the truth' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'poltics is so hard for me to understand.. i watch fox and listen to npr. hah' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'basically he is just a guy up there talking..whatever comes to mind' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'wow..he still hasnt answered anything' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm either too smart to watch this, or too dumb' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'are they asking tough questions? like if you want to kill terrorists families are you going to start with the 6 month old baby in San Bernadino?' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'no, its a townhall with sean hannity who has been backing him for months' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'its all softball questions..but he cant even answer them' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'this democrat debate has hard harsh questions. harsher for hillary, but they attacked across the board in the beginning' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He has previously been heard asking not to be asked hard questions.' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'this cuba question was pretty rough just now, hillary is dancing around it, there's almost no safe answer' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorlok: '"Sometimes your best investments are the ones you don't make." That's one thing he got right, we shouldn't invest in Trump.' T3/r7/2016-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm watching the trump hannity jerkfest..i didnt even know there was a dem debate' T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'http://phg.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/01/08/0309132515623368.abstract' T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'looks...legit?' T3/r7/2016-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure its just prep-work for a fraudulent kickstarter' T3/r7/2016-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'marco rubio vs rand paul sissy fight. who wins?' T3/r7/2016-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure everyone loses that one.' T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Sometimes in order to be good, you have to be bad... Anyone want to argue with that? :P' T3/r7/2016-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Trump/Sanders or Sanders/Trump?' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'wow .. even my ft has .. no idea .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'does Tiggernuts still live here ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'does anyone live here ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yoooo..this merrick garland's daughter is fine as fuck' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gaden: 'lol jessica or rebecca?' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'not sure, i only saw one' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Trump "What do i know all I know is whats on the internet." TDS Host "That is literally worse then knowing nothing" lololololol' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'if a chicken and a half lays an egg and a half in a day and a half, then how long would it take a man with a wooden leg to kick all the seeds out of a dill pickle?' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'eternity' T3/r7/2016-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'nope. six! get it? ah hah ahahah hahhahahah!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'heads up large post coming. turn off channel if you care to avoid spammish content. in 3' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'hit me Arnica ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'Dont hit her she is precious!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I hit back .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Regarding Government ignoning its duty in the area of the homeless - Believe me I know it. Forget the deficit, that problem is a hoax on your mind by the propagandists. But I live downtown in a major city with good weather. I talk to the pepole on the street who flood here. What Bernie is saying is factual. 75%+ of our homeless people are veterans, and that is disgraceful. An enormous number are mentally ill and that is all on Ronald Reagan's heritage of dissolving state support for mental health, and the failure of the Federal Goverment to act on the gap. These overlap in cases of severe PTSD. Very neglectful and inexcusable. What is needed is a project of enormous scope focused on applying limited skills to something of valuable output. This is so anti-corporate that no one in the capitalist mindset is ever going to put one second into considering it (outside of figuring out how to use prison labor). It has to be a government effort. I believe the next Nobel Prize needs to go to someone who can hu' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Taeryn smacks Tzadkiel with a smoked salmon. T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Regarding Government ignoning its duty in the area of the homeless - Believe me I know it. Forget the deficit, that problem is a hoax on your mind by the propagandists. But I live downtown in a major city with good weather. I talk to the pepole on the street who flood here. What Bernie is saying is factual. 75%+ of our homeless people are veterans, and that is disgraceful. An enormous number are mentally ill and that is all on Ronald Reagan's heritage of dissolving state support for mental health, and the failure of the Federal Goverment to act on the gap. These overlap in cases of severe PTSD. Very neglectful and inexcusable. What is needed is a project of enormous scope focused on applying limited skills to something of valuable output. This is so anti-corporate that no one in the capitalist mindset is ever going to put one second into considering it (outside of figuring out how to use prison labor). It has to be a government effort. I believe the next Nobel Prize needs to go to someone who can hu' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'humanely harness untrained labor for productive use in a way that advances the laborer right out of that market while making significant commercial output.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Not that I have a strong opinion or anything' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Dey turk err jurbs!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the slow food movement combined with adequet mental health services and land for urban farming is one approach Arnica .. look we may have some political views that are at odds but , you are right .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'dare I say Kibutz ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I have literally heard that from trailer trash' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'smoking "medical" dope all day' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: '.. OK I'm white "trash" .. but .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I am not into drugs' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I am just trash. I kicked Oscar out of his can and moved in.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it has been proven time and again that large scale socialism doesn't work. So one Kibutz is fine, enough of them to cover a country like th US would be a disaster. Even if someone doesn't decide to be come the Kibutz Lieader In Chief.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'did you see anyone at all offer another way ? no takes a semi educated 20something to ever try .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'even*' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you could try a mild form of anarchism' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'communities without a central government willing to cooperate with other communities.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'There's a big difference between having limited skills and being mentally ill.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: '.. mild .. anarchism , you mean like the blaat of comunist "bartering ie a black market ? like the current drime economy ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'communism isn't anarchism by definition.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'in fact, communism is the idea of the Kibutz taken to the extreme.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Droog .. yes .. but so many can start out on the land ? is an equal playing field ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'In the US, no one was effective enough to establish a successfull Kibutz to my knowledge. Every attempt turned into a commune with little or no discipline and failed. If you have a link to a success I would enjoy it.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'no Arnica , even the isreali attempts grew into corperations , ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Start out on the land?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I don't have an answer , but at least I am looking ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'homelessness isnt a problem' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'It's been done before. Highways, electricity in rural areas, big govt projects to bring jobs to areas that are struggling.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'until humans learn to suppress or re-channel the urge to dominate others we are going to be in this and similar situations. The Kibutz failed, not because it was a bad idea, but because someone decided the they were going to be the Kibutz leader-in-chief and destroy the very autonomy that made the concept successful.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'its kike a burr stuck in my hunting socks' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and yes, a mild form of anarchy would be driven by autonomous enclaves.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'in Australia they are called Station hands , you feed and board em and you give em tasks that are those they are capable of , primary rpoduction has alot of those opurtuinuties and a good environment ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'and yet america is an economic miracle' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'some are more equal than others , ie animal farm .. yeah this is old ground even for me ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the US economy is a bubble .. and thats another subject not for here ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yes, animal farm is the classical template of modern government. Whether from the "East" of the "West". Both "forms" of government are derived from the same Hegelian mold.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'a giant, giant bubble' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'm0any homeless are homeless by choice and lie about being vets' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Drum .. fuck off ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Droog You said something like "There is a big difference between having limited skills and being mentally ill." There is no doubt that that is true. I was suggesting no equivalence. Wg=hat I was saying was that it might be possible to find a way to employ both, while currently they simply are disregarded as unemployable. We have an enormous resource pool in this country that has been passed over by technology. We need to spend the nenergy to find a way to re-employ it.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'no bubble at all' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I hope this is a curse chann but if not .. dun care .. fuck off ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'you can curse' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sure there are homless that are just parasites, but if the environment had not been created these parasites would not have existed.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'false, some people just suck. some make bad choices. some are unlucky' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I read that as drug culture Aphel ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'nobody is starving in america' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'drumpf you are so, so wrong' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'the homeless hang out in warm cities bc they dont need a roof' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yes, and there are those that see a way to live without being productive, the parasites. But these parasites didn't create the environment, they came later to take advantage.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'I picture Trump at a podium every time Drumpf says something.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Nooobody Cares laughs out loud. T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'visit some third world countries and see wat the world is really like before u shit on anerica' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'you don't buy the whining jungian socialist that screams a product of siciety ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'don't give me that crap, to say that because other places are bad we should be thankful for what we have is bullshit.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Drum I have .. got into herion in thialand as a teenager .. fuck you ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'guess you made a bad chiice. own it.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I bet $100 drumpf is under 40. You get over 50 and lose your job in the US, you are a screwed pooch.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'She did' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'sometimes arnica, yes. tgere should be a safety net of some kind which involves working.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Arnica and thats the untapped potential we have to re harness .. imo apart from the system I can't see how ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: '-10' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'The billionaires and the homeless are both products of society.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the original homeless population of the 80s was formed by the formerly hospitalized that found themselves on the streets when Reagan terminated funding for health care for the indigent.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'to some extent. and to some extent its their choices' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: '"but first you have to learn to smile as you kill" ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'unsure about US centric developments ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'You are not quite getting it. It is not Billionaires and homeless. It is 1% Billionaires and EVERYONE else.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Neither could exist without some sort of society. Without society, there are no rich or homeless.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the sheeple with "just enough" are propping up the 1% at the top too niave to now it ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'we need the rich to make america great' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'There is no Opie land any more whre we can live and ignore the homeless and the billionaires.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'the billionaires make u better off. do you use google? amazon? facebook?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life. ~ Theodore Roosevelt' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'In fact there never was, they made it up and fed it to us on TV' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'the th8ng that will destroy america is stupid ie big govt' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Cull the herd, put your boots on and go to work. Drumpf for pres.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'there cannot be a society in the world today, Droog. People don't have to look for them to join them, one is born socialized. If societies required membership approval, things would better off. As thins stands those who happen to be born grow up thinking that they are entitled to all society can give them merely because they are alive.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Turn of the stupid Neral Network feed please. It is just too damn close to Trump' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the revolution Will Not be telivised .. or my fav by elenor rosevelt "95% of the population just wants tittytainment " ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'bah, revolution. The US citizenry is too wimpy to revolt.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Nermal' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Aphel I had made that point a while ago ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'too bus6 enjoying worlds best record of quality of life improvement over time to revolt' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Yo Denmark!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'in the US they always make fun of all the revolutions going on in all those banana republics. Say what you want about those people, they die for what they believe in. Something that doesn't happen too often in the US.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'america fucking works.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Fuck Yeah. Off work at 8 PM' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I am so sorry :( deb is not a curse chann :( ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'deb is not a curse chann !' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'they die bc they are too stupid to move to anerica' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: ''murica' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Anyway, Drumpf is the man.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'thanks for making my point, Drumpf. You'll take a beating all your life because that is the law. Never even imagine questioning who the hell has the right to pass such law. The banana citizens don't accept being kicked all their lives, they will rather die that to put up with it.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'no accident the internet, google, facebook, etc was invented in usa' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'hey sorry for telling ppl to f off , was wrong ,, sorry was a lil over heated ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'I think this guy might literally be trump, mudding in the wee hours' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'lol Cares' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'nobody is getting beaten by the law in america. are you mentally compromised?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Nice hair Drumpf.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'oh, ok, since you are going that route use that miracle you call google to find all you an about operation paperclip, then then tell me how "american" are all those things you mentioned.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Yugely American?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'hell no, the law shoots people in 'murica' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'oh, that's right in the US the law is applied equally across the board. I think I read that in one of Ferguson's newspapers.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'is called the "miracle pill cure " the lates being tech .. OK wind knocked out of my sails a lil .. leave you all too it ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'Actually looks like I was wrong, debate *is* curse so everyone fuck off.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'im not worried about the gnats flying around the beach mansion that is the usa' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Nooobody Cares falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Lash , you make a good point , to be respectful .. I heard that ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica curls up to Lasher and tells him to eat me! T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I heard free ice cream.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I am going to be you are white, Drumpf :)' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'I have too much respect for Drumpf and the great nation of America to use the F word in this channel.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'France?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'im red white and blue' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'BREAKING NEWS: The French have surrendered again.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Australia .. blue white n red ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'France is red blue and white' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'OLD NEWS: This country would still be a colony without France.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'then when it came time to support their revolution we didn't do shit.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'Also true' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'don't agree with me, argue ffs.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I wore a funny bandana thing' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'I cant argue with the truth!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Lasher is trying to get the subject away from Trump. T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'that would have ruined les miserables' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I still blame the Quebequa :P' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'failed miserably so going to be for real now.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Lasher waves happily. T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'You have to say something like "Vladimir Putin will make a great US President in 2020"' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'err, going to bed' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Lasher: 'Howard Stern 2020!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Trump said he would do Invanka' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'I guess that's why they're all in Canada.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Tzadkiel 2020!!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Drumpf 2016!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'A vote for tzad is a vote for free booze!' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'not if I drink it all ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Nooobody Cares pouts. T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'droogie want to be head of security?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Trump said he would do Don, if Ivanka was in the room (no that is not true)' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'give those protestors a little ultra violence?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'security would run like clockwork :P' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'tzad im starting to like you.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Count me in.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'don't , saves time later ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'Always time for a bit of the old in out - in out in the oval office.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I'm a lesbian kitten .. minority of 1 :P find ur own furbal source :P' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Nooobody Cares chortles mischievously. T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'I think this was derailed succesfully.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'took the chief to di it .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'want me to start a new one?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'does it involve the great beef bacon experiment I have planned for tomorrow ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Nooobody Cares giggles. T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Droog: 'It does now.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica falls over and dumps a few thousand gallons of toxic sludge into Chris Cristie's neighborhood T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I have beef bacon .. tryin it tomorrow .. to be continued . ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'you should try chicken sashimi' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Chis count's his cash on the way to IHop' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: '.. not a fan of uncooked meat ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'but I heard bout beef bacon in ft and bought some yesterday :) .. tryin it tomorrow ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'yiuve never been to chipotle then?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'once' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I have been to LA San Fran washington fort AP hill and Honalulu .. but was v young ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'so the america hate is really envy, makes sense now' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'got to ride in a superhuey at AP :) ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'And the Trump run is really payback for a snide coment years ago. Lame, huh?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'when im president, the commander in chief salary is tripling so we cam attract and retain talented people' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I'm sure hookers were part of that package .. no need ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'bad news, we have had no hits on that req at five times the salary. Relo seems to be an issue. Can we move the White House to LA?' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'tzad that was some display of groveling and prostration when The Establishment repressed you' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'where was the courage to fight for your right to curse on curse channel' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Honolulu also seems to be a potential' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'nah .. cursing ppl is lazy english .. and treating ppl with respect is my bag , let myself down ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I've been given enough chances a while ago .. been chann banned more than 2 years of my time here .. and I'm better than hat now ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'youre firex' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'L n R have been more than fair with me .. you dun know the whole story n I'm not about to tell it ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'your half wiuld suffice' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Aard got me through some stuff , have to pay respect and give back , make myself better at the some time ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'You no longer feel so YUGE. Fucking socialists taking away my yugeness.' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'bloody facists !! ' T3/r7/2016-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I got none of ur Yuge !! must be facists !' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Just read about the protestors shutting down the interstate to block trump supporters from getting to rally.... fucking awesome and scarey at the same time.... shits about to get real' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xax: 'Sounds counterproductive to me... Making trump the victim might make him more appealing' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exactly. T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'We are going to be seeing a lot of civil disobediance' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'dunno how civil it'll be :P' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'lol yea things might be getting really ugly... but tbh I like the thought of that better then people just sitting idly by and watching this country circle the drain hole' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'the entire election process needs to be torn down and rebuilt' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the election process isn't the issue, no amount of rebuilding it would help' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'the election process is most deff one of the biggest issues' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no it isn't' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'I cant even argue with you on that because thats just silly' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there are inefficiencies with the election process, but that's simply because politics has become an industry in its own right' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'more then inefficientcies... its all just an illusion that we get to choose.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no it isn't' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'just like "the two-party system" would still exist practically unchanged if the two-party system were abolished...it'd just be de facto rather than structured' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'people like to whine about that, but it's a load of hooey when framed as the system itself' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'two party system is automatic with first past the post' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you can choose between one crappy douchebag and a different crappy douchebag...but again that's just the result of the political industry' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'ok hillary is only ahead of bernie because of super delegates. if they gave those superdelegates to bern he would be ahead... thats not inefficent thats blatant she is only ahead because they say she is ahead and made it that way.... they might not give trump the nomination despite him winning it.. thats not ineffcient thats them choosing for us' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that's a republic...you chose them, so stop saying that you don't choose' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'so yea the election system needs to be torn down and rebuilt... and havent even started into the electoral college bullshit' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'just like you don't vote on every bill' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'ummm did you not just read about how they are choosing for us?' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I did. and did you not read where you voted them in expressly for them to do that?' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm not sure why stopping someone's political meetings is particularly awesome.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'don't participate only during presidential election and you'll have more say in it :-)' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I guess I just don't understand free speech and all that' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'dont claim to know when or how I vote... ' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you're claiming it, not me' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'if you're saying that you aren't getting to choose, then it's because you chose not to choose earlier' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'where did I say anythign along the lines of "I only vote for pres"? please read better and dont put words in my mouth' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'Im done... it would be more stimulating to have this debate with a 4 year old.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you're saying that you've got no choice in the matter of hillary...I'm saying that if you participated in the process earlier, then that is not a truthful statement...' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'most of the country doesn't even know what or where duke is...' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'mis' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'The Right Thing, or Worse is Better? discuss.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Wow look at that geyser! Oh wait that's Nooobody Cares exploding with femfap! T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'looks like weve got a unix coding fan in the house tonight. lets see how this plays out.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'My research indicates that the American Civil War never really ended. The renegade "President" gave himself up, and the military generals surrendered, but the actual civil body did not dissolve in any sense. Nor did the Union ever forgive or abridge the conflict. I believe there is nothing standing in the way of the US Congress divorcing the "South" as a still combatant entity.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'And saving a hell of a lot of money in the process.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'my research indicates that there is a very small margin between the number of states in the confederacy vs. the number of states required to confirm a constitutional amendment - for example, to add or remove a state or states from the union.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, humans are a savage race.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Concur, so thow the bums out' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'also, pluto is too a planet.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Even if it is not a planet, it is one of the sexiest objects in the system, and i am damn glad we went and had a look see https://www.google.com/search?q=nasa+pluto+photos&safe=off&biw=1339&bih=678&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZqbL1qs7LAhVByWMKHbzJCmAQsAQIGw' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Pluto is a planet!' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Pluto was demoted by the same people who think that google is a verb. :>' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I'll google to see if google is a verb or not.' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'text me the answer of course' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion tsks at himself. What a fruit. T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'we'll do lunch' T3/r7/2016-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'my favorite one is the verb "divisionalize" :)' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'is envy a negative thing?' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I suppose biblically it is' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'but is it really?' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its not the thing that matters, so much as what you do with it.' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'it makes us do things' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'envy can lead to anger which is bad, and depression which is bad, or it can lead to striving to do better and have more which is good.' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'can also cured with a nice "i dont give a crap" and thats just the worse that can happen.' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i want my envy back' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'envy definiton: a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I guess by this definition discontent and resentful make it bad, but if you aren't really resentful this may not be such a bad thing.' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'who'd you eat first. the talking pizza or the talking pickle?' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i would concentrate on the talking muffins in the oven.' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I'd question what I already ate that lead to my meals speaking' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'do not question, it only angers them!' T3/r7/2016-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i'd choose the pickle. it'd take just one bite to shut it uip' T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Having become sufficiently insensate, I declare the potential nomenation of Donald Trump null and void on the grounds that he was taken up by aliens, probed deeply, and enjoying it thoroughly was returned as a usurper of American politics.' T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'so sanders had a huge gathering and hillary had a super low show up and yet I cant seem to find anythign about it on some of the major news sites.... hmmmmm' T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'neither of them are as interesting as trump' T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'I love how when they talk about news from china or korea they are like.. "as reported by the state run media" acting like we are any different' T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'We are different, google doesnt censor our internet here.' T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'other way around in the US -- the media runs the state' T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'As long as the vast majority of us believe what we are fed from a relatively homogeneous media oligopoly, there isn't much need for formal government sensorship, is there?' T3/r7/2016-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wars: 'So the state might not controll it but I dont see it as being any more reliable. And im not saying all news just the majority.' T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I wonder whether Cruz will gain from the Jeb Bush endorsement.' T3/r7/2016-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nooobody Cares: 'doesnt really matter, murica wants a con man not a constitutionalist' T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'worse is better. +1' T3/r7/2016-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'My generation was raised with Smokey Bear. The American people have a right to air that they and their children can breathe without fear. - LBJ Unfortunately, our affluent society has also been an effluent society. Hubert Humphrey Water and air, the two essential fluids on which all life depends, have become global garbage cans. - Jacques -Yves Cousteau But we still burnt it all down!!!' T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nandark: 'no, this is a channel for that kind of thing' T3/r7/2016-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nandark: 'isn't it?' T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the "Curse channel" as a debate channel ?! (no. i keep the Curse channel off.)' T3/r7/2016-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the "Curse channel" as an appropriate channel to discuss religious views (heheheheheh)' T3/r7/2016-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'What's going on in DC?' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'California's minimum wage increase to $15 per hour may be a little too much.' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the best movie death in your worthless opinion?' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ok. you cold bastards. i start with amazin spiderman 2 - that looong stretchy strain that looked like tiny fingers trying to grab his gf was a genious move' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'do you like Kylo Ren?' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Ten Things "you need to know about food" -- documentary comedy tvshow episode - slightly gross ' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if one allows oneself to think about it, the subject of food is gross :)' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Ten Things "you won't believe got banned" -- documentary comedy tvshow episode - informative. #1 laughs at: some American prudes banned the Webster Dictionary from schools' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I would ban it also simple for catering to the grammatically-challenged and giving their abominations a veneer of respectability.' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Cheese is the most shiplifted item for stores. A lot of the stolen cheese gets resold to restaurants and delicatesans -- so some customers get to eat somebody's mold on a dairy mold' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Blue-eyed are able to hold more alcohol .. and are more likely to be alcoholics' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'brown-eyed folk are better at throwing frisbees !?! ' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Vanilla flavour may contain (FDA-approved) castorium (from a beaver's abys)' T3/r7/2016-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Chili may contain FDA-approved glass powder' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Demolition Man (1993) - an example of an extremely bad movie start -- Sly Stallone was supposed to shoot Wesley Snipes in the head as sound as Wesley attempted to burn Sly. The movie is then 10 minutes long and the audience is spared the agony of watching the remainder of the extremely bad movie.' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'In retrospect, Sandra Bullock's role was slightly amusing and wryly humorous' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some may suspect that "Disney" was involved in the production of the movie "Demolition Man" (wink wink)' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Demoltion Man" is actually somewhat of a comedy poking fun at the politically correct - with lots of extremely graphic violence in suggestive subliminal form' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'fun with explosions and cultural conflict - 2.5 stars, would watch again but would not spend money to do so.' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Oh the Middle East is in replays?' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i blame stallone.' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'speaking of Dly , I watched Iralian Stallion a few weeks ago , funniest thing I have seen in a long time ' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Sly*' T3/r7/2016-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Italian*' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i cant wait for trump to become prez..i've been a loser my whole life, he is going to come in and i can win through him' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'careful you might wake up drumpf' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I'm worried about what will happen to people after they get tired of winning.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Can anyone explain why people were offened when Trump said that if abortion were outlawed he would support punishing women who have abortions? I understand why people are Pro-Choice, but I don't know why what Trump said was worse than any other Pro-Life statements.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He retracted that statement and applied it to the physicians who do the abortions.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'His willingness to change on that issue was rare for him.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'pro-life folks usually say that they would only want doctors prosecuted if they broke the law by performing an illegal abortion' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'he already took that back' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He never changes positions. Solid as a rock.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'he just does that..talks' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'not the woman. So what he said was unusual' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Unusual for most.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'the problem is trump really speaks to the lifetime losers..the guys that cant just seem to catch a break..this rich guy is going to come in and solve all their problems for them' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'peaked early in highschool, drink a little too much.. make less than 40k a year type..love their trailers' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'most of the people that I know that support him are a bit arrogant.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'most people who are eager to talk politics from any position are a little arrogant' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He talks to them in a fourth grade level vocabulary (obviously the best words) which appeals to people. There are some who don't like to think.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the problem iith democracy in general is the same as .. and I cringe .. is like giving ur woman ur credit card .. they know not what they do .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xax: 'http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2960' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: '70 year old man married to a 34 year old model.. whats not to like' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'or manybe his daughter is 34 idk' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'oh my bad, yah his wife is 45 . not as bad i guess' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'everyone read this - http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2960 ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'good thing the prez cant really do too too much' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bertilak boggles at Legendary Gruagach. T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: ', I hate to say it but ... is there any reason you can see how we can "fight the powers that be" .. ?' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Through executive orders they can, until they are brought to the Supreme Court for ruling' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'they appoint supreme court members, that alone for this next term will be huge' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah true that' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'they also have a lot of cabinet members which are their administration and are responsible for a lot of different things' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'like John Kerry negotiating the nuclear deal with iran' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'as secretary of state' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'in my own work life I have seen time and time again the one true position that negates the popular outrage and re introduces the status quo .. and it is stall stall stall .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'the office of the president is the single most important political office in the US. their powers are limited by the other branches, but no single position has anywhere near as much authority' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'as a whole, you might be able to argue that congress has more authority' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'but that's a conglomeration of something like 400 different people' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Republicans are masters of digging in and refusing to do anything, then kicking and screaming if they do. Then when the roles are reversed, Democrats do a pretty stellar job as well.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the system is fundamentally flawed imo ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'is it true drump did violence against lady reporter?' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'nope' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'he wasn't accused of doing anything to the reporter' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/30/cops-teen-sexually-assaulted-pepper-sprayed-called-n-ger-lover-at-trump-rally.html?via=twitter_page' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That?' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'one of his campaign managers was' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'some shitty reporter who is known to overplay stuff was slightly pushed aside by one of his memebers' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the real question is why does the Republican party always has some freak running from president?' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'slightly bruised when he grabbed her. He was wrong, but it doesn't seem to be worth a trial.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'while I hate to minimise an individuals suffering .. the system is flawed ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'his wife is hot there is no debates' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'first lady wife debates more please :)' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'is there any wonder that we have a neofudal system making terrorist attacks ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'no terror attacks against us system. t3rror attacks bc islamist crazies' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'there is no surprise there to anyone that pays attention. Fuedalism never went away, it was just repackaged. Now the cracks in the package are showing.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I hope for more people in the middle who want to get things done, and fewer people controlled by their parties.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'i am in the middle like malcolm' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I hope you don't think that your opinion counts. If you do, you are in for a long season of disappointment.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'not until i am rich enough to buy new york tim3s' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I don't expect to get my way.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Drumpf is the only one with the opinions, I mean facts, that matter!' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: ', OK I know little of this but to me , were I to be marginalised by the capatalist system and the developed nations own population are so comfortable they have no idea why or how to revolt even though there has never ben a greater divide between rich and poor .. I'd ram a building too .. ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'it seems like everyday he takes back what he said the previous night lol' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That just proves he is flexible in his stance!' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'lol tzad the divide story is false' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'all Trump is going t archive is to further splinter a party already plagued with rifts. If you think that because people show up to his rallies he is going to win, you are in for a rude awakening.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'more p3ople in usa college than almost ever' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'system doesnt marginakize the person, self does that' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'In all honestly, I am shocked he has not created a Trump party yet.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bertilak: 'ironically the best thing that can happen to the republican party for the long term right now is for trump to get the nomination and lose the general election' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trist: 'Fracturing his party will likely result in some kind of reform, which is about what they need right about now' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the sideshow that is trump etc is just a DISTRACTION. those buying into it are just distracted ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I am sure that means something to you.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'america are idiots..talk to anyone who's worked customer service' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Trump doesn't operate that way, he will let someone else create the party and then lease his name to it :)' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you don't hear the democrats saying anything official about trump. You don't hear democratic voters thinking about defecting. That is key to what the expected result is going to be.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'frump will win election' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the democrats know that if they keep a low profile the game is won.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'it will be intresting to see trump debate anyone.. like a real debate, not a talking point raitings scheme' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'they said that about the Mittens too. He got landslided' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'no republican will vote hillary. centriste will vote frump bc too much liberal policy with obama' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'my prediction .. Trump is just a clown and it really don't matter who wins , things will stay the same ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Hillary is a Republican dressed in a jackass suit.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if all the republicans vote and all the democrats vote, the republicans will lose. Trust me, trump will bring out the democratic vote in record numbers.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'She loves money and power.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'me too' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'oh, gee wiz, and trunp is thinking about joining a convent.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'trump iws running because he loves money and power' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'obama was a cool cat and first black. hillary is first 2oman but lots of disrespect for her due to sheer politician life' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Trump is running because he loves attention.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'that too' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i mean, i think anyone would in that position right' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'ISIS will still continue to be a presence and tbh 99% of the population would give a vote in a heartbeat if thier poer was cut off but coudn't give a poo about the rest ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I just don't buy this thing about a fool being a better choice than hillary simply because she is a cold calculating politician.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'most ote from heart not head' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'good night all' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'it does not matter who is president . it will be buisness as usual , the sham just makes ppl thing they have a say in something they have little ken and no power over imo ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and how does he evoke the heart? He has insulted just about every group in the US.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'wharton no fool just like yale' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'he is not going to get the Hispnaic vote, for instance. If you don't think that is a substantial bloc, ask Obama.' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'women, blacks, hispanics..' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'all he has is scared white men' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'and while fox has made millions off them, they arent the majority of voters anymore' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'he taps anger and victimization wt hands of politicians not 2arm fuzzies. vrry dqlculates' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'very calculated' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'tbh the fool maybe me , but I believe the whole political presidency in the US is just sapping intellectual energy from those that should know better ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'you are smarter than me , what difference can this sideshow make ? ' T3/r7/2016-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'is nothing more than Idol with ugly ppl ' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if your rich uncle leaves you his dog and give all of his money to the dog, would you take care of it or.. ?' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when that uncle dies i mean' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i would take care of it' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i.e someone eatting chisense food that night' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'omg so evil! you're a sure Trump voter aint you?' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i am a white male in my 30s' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'id build a castle to the dog and would try to keep it alive at all costs' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'can dogs use weed when depressed? is it legal?' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i think weed kills dogs?' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm no chef, but i think i read that somewhere' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Scooby Doo seemed to be fine with it.' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'consumption of red wine and dark chocolate are strongly correlated with being rich and white, both of which lead to increased life expectancy in western countries' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'especially when encountering the police "Have some chocolate sir. Please don't shoot."' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'red wine gives me a terrible hangover. cant drink it every day:(' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'when hillray becomes prez, is she going to send 100 dea agents to close down colorado or what' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'only 100? maybe 1000!' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'big pharma cant handle it' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'far more effective, cheaper meds' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'to close Colorado all she has to do is withhold the federal subsidy :) Colorado is known as the Welfare State :)' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'of course, that's cuz it's filled with all those potheads!' T3/r7/2016-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion rapidly nods twice to you, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'where were these guys like hannity in the 2002 election? they keep saying "if trump doesnt win the will of the people will be undone"..yet bush didnt get as many votes as al gore' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dolo: 'the will of the "people" mainly only refers to them.' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'maybe i'll look for old youtube clips..kinda wondering' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rande: 'They've always been around saying that stuff. The majority of political discourse in this country, for a while now, has been largely comprised of hyperbole like that.' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kristoff: 'well, they're being consistent then, most republicans are voting against trump, so the pundits think trump should win..."the will of the people" is just a euphemism for whoerver they want to win' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah..elections man' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'I'd be fine if the entire presidential election was just deicded on popular vote and we got rid of the electoral college completely.' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rande: 'nod' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'At the very least, make all states proportional. Seems stupid that in the majority of states, if you win 50.1% of the votes, you win 100% of the delegates' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'the whole thing is a mess the deep you look the dumber it all appears' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Madcatz: 'er, not delegates. Whatever theyr'e called' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'too many topics of debate..never get anything done, just hop from one thing to the next' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rande: 'Yeah, our system is running into serious issues after a couple centuries of entropy, for sure.' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kristoff: 'I agree madcatz. I think electors should apportioned proportionally' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pianissimo: 'oh man, in an upcoming debate tournament a topic is actually the merits of proportional representation vs first past the post' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pianissimo: 'PR is the easier side to argue on haha, rip Opposition' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'these chicks on fox news are so hot' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'where do they find these chicks dude' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kristoff: 'the ones on cnbc are even hotter' T3/r7/2016-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i think its the aire of crazy..' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'What are your thoughts on Death with Dignity? Our state has it in the house committee right now.' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'im more of a fan of 'death with accompanying mayhem and property damage'.' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I fail to see why death as an end of life option is so evil. last time it came up it couldn't even get out of committee' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'self induced death that is' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'or physician assisted' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'because in 'murica, you can prevent death with money, which is free.' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'there comes a time where that isn't practical' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'practi- what now?' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Grampa wants to die... Fuck him, he doesn't get a say.... lets hook him to a million machines so he can drool on himself for the next 5 mos while in pain.' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'hmmm... is debate a curse channel? if not I apologize' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'because life is precious, and money is free. right.' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'are you not familiar with our medical sysytem? nthing is free' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'well no, you have to pay for it - but money is free.' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'so you are saying extend all suffering no matter the cost?' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i wouldnt say that. but then, as a voter, im outnumbered.' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'i suspect I should write my rep instead of writing on a text based game' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'best of luck.' T3/r7/2016-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'the state next to us passed it, the state on the other side said nope no way' T3/r7/2016-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'drinking tea or coffee is completely unnatural' T3/r7/2016-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'can you imagine a damn deer sitting by a muddy river and taking small sips. listening songbirds?' T3/r7/2016-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'cows do that. but they are bored like hell' T3/r7/2016-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'everytime i turn on foxnews they are talking about email or bengazhi.. lol..they want her in jail so bad' T3/r7/2016-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Well, the US did just bring Guccifer in on extradition, so FOX"news" is creaming their pants over it.' T3/r7/2016-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Guccifer sounds like a sick ass DJ' T3/r7/2016-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah good point' T3/r7/2016-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Like he should be headlining a show not hacking computerz' T3/r7/2016-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'test' T3/r7/2016-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'is this chan dead ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ashii: 'Not for healthy debates' T3/r7/2016-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'so I cannot say Nazi here :P' T3/r7/2016-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'is the litmus test for all deb channs ' T3/r7/2016-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'nazi' T3/r7/2016-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'gaming adiction - a deffinition ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'here ' T3/r7/2016-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'can ted cruz look any more creepy..wtf is he doing in a tux thats too tight' T3/r7/2016-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'He's getting ready to suck your blood dude.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'bernie sanders is a scary dude' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'should a business owner have the right to r3fuse service to I ' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i dont wanna serve those blacks' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'exactly' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i mean i dont wanna serve those gays, i mispoke' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'and if its a black gay do two wrongs make a right for you?' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the answer is yes, they do have that right - 1st amendment. and no, yo would need one more wrong to make a right, and a fourth to get back where you started.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'BUT JESUS' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'haha gotcha' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'what if my business is the only pharmacy in town' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'unless you accept federally-sourced funds, the 1st amendment says that you can say anything you want - including 'i dont want your business'.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'you cant just r3fuse a black AIDS medicine under 1st ' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'of course, thats not a popular thing to say these days.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'yea libs only want liberty when its their kind of liberty' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'ahhh, but you dont have to have a reason. you can just refuse for no reason at all. at least, as a private citizen.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'repubs too, both parties are hypocritical' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'however - if your business is _not_ private, but instead exists explicitly for the benefit of the public, then your duty to serve preempts your right to refuse service.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'america is dumb, you heard it here first' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'so govt can regulate the b8z and require license saying i wont refuse to dispense aids drugs to blacks' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'only a very small privately owned business would even consider turning away a large number of potential clients - because it is an inherently foolish thing to do.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'onoy 8f money trumps a principled view, no matter how 2acko' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and no, business regulation is a state matter, unless the business accepts federal funds - that opens the business up to a whole host of other obligations.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'businesses that turn away lots of income tend to fail - usually because a more principled capitalist out-competes them. eventually, anyway.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'is it legal to double 5he price for blacks only' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pricing laws are arcane and varied - and potentially in conflict with 1st-amendment. i dont know if its been tested in the courts, tho.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'like menthols 3 dollar for richard sotherby but 6 dollar for reggie jordan?' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'the same argument would apply - private business owners should be able to set any pricing scheme they want - and suffer the consequences when their prospective customers leave.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'ru a libertenarian?' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and of course, any law that requires businesses to behave specially for some particular group would be in violation of the equal protection clause ... but again, thats an unpopular truth.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'what ie that' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'all political descriptors have the same definition when i hear them. 'folks who share descriptors are more likely to vote for each other'.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'which means i am exactly as much libertarian as i am communist, socialist, capitalist, left, right, whig, tory. etc...' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I vote sagittarian.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'who would win if richard chestwick fought rory ungaboo?' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'pretty sure everyone would lose...' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'natalie portman in the professional was child exploitation' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'who puts a twelve year old girl starting to develop her chest in a movie in a tank top with no undergarment' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'mmm. yummy, yummy, 'sploitation.' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'so inappropriat3' T3/r7/2016-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'they were so much more respectful of a blossoming emma watson in the harry potter mov8es' T3/r7/2016-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So I sent an Email to my aldermen today and apparently pointing out how my city raised taxes over the normal levy limit due to technical option in the tax code, and now they want to give out 30k grants to business owners and possibly leasees ... well thats going to far.' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, looks like this US election stands a good chance of fundamentally exposing the corruption at the heart of both parties' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'you're back!' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'the Tigernuts channel has been very quiet without you' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i never went anywhere' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'whaaaaaaaat? the parties are corrupt?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'yup, but apparently they weren't corrupt enough that people didn't vote for them' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'congress 17% approval rating, 80% voted back in.. logic' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'my guy is fine, your guy sucks' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'welcome to tribal/identity politics 101' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm pretty certain approval for "my representative" would be much higher than approval for "congress", if someone split it up' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'none of my lot got caught up in the panama tax scandal, they gave the prime minister a hard time for about $300,000 his mother gave him from his dead dad's estate, but that's about it' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'think Trump and Sanders should run as third party candidates if they don't get their party nomination because of corruption' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but would it be beause of courruption' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'they both have very small groups..just vocal' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'very likely on GOP size, Gruagach, less clear on Democrat side' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'he has very young active support' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'nobody's mom is voting for him' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'sanders that is' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'with the strict libel laws in Britain, maybe Trump and Sanders may put Tigernuts into the poorer house ' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'problem isn't the demographics, it's the democrat voting rules that gives clinton the delegates despite sanders winning the vote' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah well thats how the private group decided to handle their nomination' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'no one is stopping any of these guys from running their own group' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'this primary season has like become an election cycle.. media is so dumb' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well that requires a break with the 2 party system, and let's face it, americans seem to believe there are only and can be only two' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'what sucks is obama would win a 3rd term by popular vote' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and he cant run, we are stuck with really bad options' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'like all 6 are bad' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'be greatful he can't run' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'oh yah, why that' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'because then you'd have a populist president elected on teh strength of his skin colour alone' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'maybe thats how he got elected first term' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'second term was about policy' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it was why he was elected in the first place, had nothing to do with policy' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'who'd win a 4 way potus fight between clinton, sanders, cruz, and trump?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'clinton' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Sanders. He is more popular than any of them.' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'lol..' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'maybe on the internet, but not in the real world' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sadly i think gruagach is probably right, because of vagina' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Nationally, he is leading Clinton in polls taken in the last week.' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i havent really heard that talking point..i dont think anyone thinks about gender like that' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'sure he is..' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i mean he is doing great. i didnt think he would do as well as he had..when he came out all disholved and said "i'm running for prez" and then left..' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's just as strong a factor as obama's skin colour was' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'so ackward' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'In previous elections, polls of general election matchups taken prior to the nominations have been slightly less reliable than monkeys throwing excrement at walls.' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'nowhere near it tiger..no where near it' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Like Sanders being 17 points down prior to Michigan and him winning it?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'it might be a small advantage..but its not the thing that will bring hundreds of thousands of people to come out to vote for her' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'sanders is the only candidate from either party that has coherent policies based upon principled, genuinely held, and long standing ideological beliefs. I don't agree with many of them, but still' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I thought Clinton was running to be president of women and feminists' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'are men supposed to vote for her too?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Clinton is running to be president of power and greed.' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'hilirary talking point on wage gap and that gun manufactuers should be held responsabily for murders are both absurd' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'better that than a monster that changes her policies as often as her underwear' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'those talking points should mark her as unqualified to stack shelves, gruagach, much less run a superpower' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you mean trump..who changed 4 times in 3 days on abortion?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: '5 times in the same day, I think it was.' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Viscount Droki: 'yo that new hillary stance of suing gun manufacturers is the single worst policy stance she's come up with. you'd have to be a moron to even acknowledge it as anything but crazy' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, i read about that, and although that's how the media spun it, it's not what happened' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'sorry, i was too busy winning to count' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'she's bad news, gruagach' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i agree..i dont understand it at all' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'most of what she says i can either agree with or understand' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'i'd happily vote for -anyone- of the other candidates above her' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'good thing you cant vote' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'heh' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'You assume she is a bottom?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'was it the 4 people she gunned down in bengazhi or the trillion of dollaars she made selling spy secrets to north korea? what is it you dislike?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well, all i can say is: tell your potus to fuck right off and stay out of our referendum - it's none of his fucking business' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hilary's been on a slippery wicket since narrowly avoiding being disbarred during watergate' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'disagree' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then you had the organised crime connections in Alabama, and the covering up of Bill's stuff in office' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i would like to know what she did to piss off rebplebs do bad though' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then the flip flopping on major policies when she was in the house, then there was benghazi, then the emailgate, then all her feminist pseudoscience bollocks' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'there's just a very long list of things not to like' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Sanders all the way' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'what about benhazi?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'hanging out your own people to die then lying about it repeatedly' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'this committie who has spent millions of dollars and invested more hours than the pearl harber bombing... what am i suppose to be scared of' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you mean she didnt have the funding, that the rep controlled seneate cut?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'she did nothing wrong in bengazhi..the system is too large' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the same attack could happen in many places today..' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'it's not the attack that was the issue, it was the lying about it afterwards' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you mean not telling the public infomation that might lead to further panic..but later revealing it?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and supporting attacking Libya itself was a big error of judgement' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i wont debate you on that one..libya can be considered a bigger mistake than bengazhi but doesnt get the radio play' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'she in general feels slimey and slippery..but the stuff they try to charge her with sometimes is crazy' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'claiming your ambassadorial installation was attacked by rioters angry at an insulting youtube video when the reality (and she knew this) was it was islamic terrorists raiding the attached CIA weapons store for heavy weaponary' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you think the goverment always tells the public the truth in the hours after an attack?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'she later did clarify the response' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'So they lied that it wasn't the video at first, but then it was?' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'reverse, taeryn, then claimed they didn't lie' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That.' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then wondered why people were upset by it' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i think it was a lie sure, prob because of the up coming election' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'on the scheme of awfulness, thats pretty low to me' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'GW Bush lied, the Republicans lied, but some of you were not upset' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'its not very important' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'then you have a very high bar for awfulness' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'hundreds died during bush term but no one ever talks about that..just the 4 bengazhi guys' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'Clinton supported the Bush war' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i cant wait till gwady releases that million dollar report findings' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'keep waiting - the Chilcott report is already years late, and apparently will be sanitised because of the American establishment pissing and moaning about it making them look bad' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'finally bill for the enquiry is a couple of hundred million dollars' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'somebodies are getting rich there' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'most politicians here and their families are either within, or is related to someone within law or banking' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'so yes, they love lengthy legal proceedings' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the high cost of an enquiry indicates financial "corruption"' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'and the fact that meaningful outcomes are never learnt because of redacted information further suggests it' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'before potus election, more interesting will be the UK independence referendum' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'compare the Debt increase with GW Bush to the Debt increase with Barack Obama' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'gave up bothering with economic arguments, people are too stupid to understand them' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'compare military spending vs bank melt down' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '9/11 omg lets all military bro' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'well if you were worried about the military industrial complex running riot and increased military spending, i'd presume you'd want a potus that would put a chain on it and row it back' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'but clearly i'm wrong' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you seem to want a potus that just keeps it going (clinton)' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Republicans caused both Debt expenditures. The Democrats were supposed to stop the Debt haemoraging further - reverse the bad trends started by GW Bush' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'you haven't got a hope under either' T3/r7/2016-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tigernuts: 'no more than the UK has no hope of sorting it's finances out without a massive devaluation and associated pain' T3/r7/2016-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''feminist bollocks'. hah!' T3/r7/2016-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'well the candidate hasnt really said much of anything else' T3/r7/2016-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'other than how great and how much winning there will be' T3/r7/2016-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you know..the guy that isn't taking anyones money. but really he just loaned his campaign the funds and will pay himself back...' T3/r7/2016-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'will the winter come?' T3/r7/2016-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ivannah Cares: 'Winter is coming!' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '"Overall my taxes are going down big league for middle class" -2016 candidate for prez.. BIG LEAGUE guis' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '"i want to build our military. it will be so grand" "i'm going to cut all the taxes, we pay too much taxes"...herrrrr dur' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Quickly list all the candidates during the past 50 years who had a tax plan that worked..' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'VICEland channel (622 expressVu) is featuring a 2 hour program on 'Hydraulic Fracturing in the USA' (titled "Dear President Obama" (2016)' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '"we took the money but please help us anyway"' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Since you said please.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'VICEland (622) is free-viewing on exprssvu until May 16 2016 ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"The Obamanation of Desolation" rhymes with "the abomination of desolation" ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'did something happen.. its obama's fault' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'https://media.giphy.com/media/pNe0GxWBypmF2/giphy.gif' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"when you see the abomination of desolation, run" is a biblical apocalyptic reference, (perhaps a warning to run from "hydraulic fracturing")' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration snuck in laws that permitted hydraulic fracturing without oversight and without disclosure' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Dick Cheney shot a man in the face ... ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin takes the silence as testament that he won the debate T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and yet, you don't blame Bush, you blame Obama. I wonder why.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Republicans of the GW Bush administration are responsible for enabling rampant hydraulic fracturing, but that ((huckleberry finn) "uncle tom") Barack Obama was a dupe that encouraged hydraulic fracturing' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Honestly, they are both to blame and Bush is no longer in office' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i disagree with hydro fracturing' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but i also think we should keep using coal..i mean shit we have a fuck ton of it' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I disagree with centralized solar ... grid tied is the way to go.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'If you want to go that route, I'd go all the way back and say every president since Raegen has been a part of the financial/capitalist olygarchy' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the program "Dear President Obama" is running in the background while typing here to you yahoos' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I once cut my finger while cutting tomatos ... #thanksobama!' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'We should be switching to multiple forms of renewable energy including Solar, Wave, Wind, Geothermal -- And phasing out coal as soon as possible' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'wind, and wave bleh, gimmics, waste of time, and resources.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Wave energy is one of the most promising options' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ivannah Cares: 'well so far they've all failed epicly as far as financial viability compared to fossil fuels, so screw that' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'a 100 Acre wave farm could produce enough energy to power the entire state of Oregon. In addition, it would create an artificial reef that benefits the local ecosystem' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'VICEland ran the program at 8pm, is running the program at 10pm, is to be running the program at 12 midnight -- back to back to back repeats' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ivannah Cares: 'except hydroelectric if you happen to live where that applies' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah, but what about when it rains..' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'chex mix libtard' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Wave is only good in a lab environment where wildlife, and debris cannot mess it up.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Wind practically kills more birds of prey than DDT.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'hey, now fracturing benefits the ecosystem :) That one was a good joke :)' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'too bad we cant know what the chemicals are, because reasons' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'science ... bleh, ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Shelkin -- That's actually not correct regarding wave energy. In the wild testing is still underway and only began in some areas in 2014. The trials won't be complete until 2017, when the true data will be available: http://www.boem.gov/OREP-Environmental-Studies-Fact-Sheet/' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the USA is "benefiting" from the "terrorising" from hydraulic fracturing - more earthquakes, polluted groundwater, pollutted farms, polluted foods, far more released methane, wiped out ranches, wiped out communities, ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Most coastal locations can't even put treated sewage pipes in any location due to mussel ccumilation. Wave Energy = looser' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Cows create more methane than fracing, and they kill more people than sharks ... don't hear you crying about cows.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'That is because they typically become clogged because they require exit ports. Wave energy would be a closed system, so marine life that attaches to the devices would have no impact' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So basically the wave energy you envision is a big shake weight ... heh' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"the 100 years of natural gas from hydralic fracturing" were oversetimated by 80% to 90% ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'With wave energy, it's a bouy system with an anchor on the bottom of the ocean. As the waves come and go, the bouy raises and lowers like a piston, generating energy. It's so much energy so consistently, that where wind energy is generally discusses in GWh, wave energy is spoken about in Twh' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Yeah ... like thats not getting tangle up in some Fukashima ghost ship debris field.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"hydralic fracturing" releases far more wasted methane into the atmosphere than the "coal industry"' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Energy and drug solution ... put every meth, and crack head on a giant rat wheel and give them free drugs to just run.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'The parts that move in and out of the anchor on the bottom of the ocean are able to be built nearly air tight, so the impact on marine life would be neglible, especially when compared to the impact of other forms of energy like fossil fuels, wind, etc.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I guess I'm also partial because I used this subject for a paper when I was in college' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The fatties at Wrigley field release more methane per game than the coal industry ... whats the point?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'look guys, we'll all be dead in 10 years anyway' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: '9.5' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I thought it was more like 11 years' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'lol :P' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'naw, alex jones told me 10' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but keep it under your hat' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I'll make sure to not tell anyone else.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Barack Obama supported rampant "hydraulic fracturing" while shutting down the "coal industry"' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'oh no, poltical bots made their way to aard' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'We're all going to catch Zika-West-Ebola-Sars-MRSA-fluenza and die next winter..' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'lol, I wouldn't necessarily say that's his fault, since the science behind the decision was incorrect' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'just saying' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Obama is all about dat science bruh' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'all i know is trump is going to fix everything' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Obama is all about Pizza.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Him and Neil Degrass Tyson are homies' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Trump And Neil?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'he's going to increase military spending, build a wall, police mooslims and mescans, AND lower the tax rate of everybody..friggon winning' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Drumpf will make america great again' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'drumpf?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You mean greater again ... because 'Merica is already great.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'oh thats right, trump is the only immgrant ever to change their last name *jerking off motion*' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'at the risk of sounding like I give a damn .. ur infantile lives amount to nothing unles you want to fly a plane into a building or invent cold fision or something , better off live a great life and before you die choose the most evil person you know and take em with you :) or just get a cat :) or a stoat :P' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '17 million USA'mericans reside within a mile of a hydraulic fracturing - and likely "enjoy" the ill-health "benefits" ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I would actually dare to disagree with you there Tzadkiel. Helping just a single person has a 'butterfly' effect that can extend out to hundreds of people. One happy person that helps other people REALLY IS making a difference by making other people happy. Happy people tend to help other people become happy, which in turn can make the world a better place.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Stoats are trending ! http://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/RhdNuAY.jpg' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'on a good day I'd look up the term "pay it forward" Nec .. today is not one ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Most Americans live within a mile of a heavy traffic intersection and enjoy far more industrial age health affects than anyone in fracture land.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i dont even know what we are debating' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'is hydo fracture good or bad? tell me how to feel' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'We're debating whether Im awesome, or just really really neato.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '(if there is) not much hydraulic-fracturing going on in Australia, then the flippant "complacency" is ... ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'All forms of fossil fuel are bad, and people who support them should feel bad' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'They are a part of an antiquated crumbling system that is based purely on greed and capitalist profit' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Not liking fossil fuels is like wanting to go off the grid and put a half licked sucker in a glass jar to oggle ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i'm debating whether to rejoice that the USA is being destroyed by the USA' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'lololol Xyliz' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'What if it isn't greed? What if it's pure sociopathic behavior manifesting in the glee from watching others not have?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: '#truth' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'well, you are free to do that on an american made computer, technology..prob american music in the backround' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Well, anything is possible.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'verizon workers on strike for making 68k a year for working in a call center..' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Dr Strangle" or how i learned to stop worrying and enjoy the bomb' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Dr Stranglove" or how i learned to stop worrying and enjoy the bomb' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'It could also be the reptilians slowly terraforming the environment to something better for them' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'omg..' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and the profits are just a false flag' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Illuminati' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'OMgoddess ! someone else is a fan of the War with Salamanders book!!' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'we're through the looking glass people' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Profits are a lie ... fiat currency is all make believe. ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Peter Sellers movies or how i learned to enjoy the USA destroying the USA with hydraulic fracturing' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'fractional reserve lending . the 4 horsemen do a great job of that point ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Does anyone here own a business?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I own a computer repair business' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I am a buisiness ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Do you accept payment in the form of chickens?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i have taken blowie from time to time' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Paper being worth something makes as much sense as gold or silver. If it works, it works.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Only on the third monday of July on the second year of each decade' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'd take chicken that i can eat over gold anytime though?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Hmmmm touche .' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'paper as value because of the force behind it' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Like, the force that flows through us force?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'chickens grown in California fed with foods irrigated with toxic waters from hydraulic fracturing' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Those are the best chickens, sooo salty' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Those are the tastiest kind' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'lolol' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Don't worry. Those chickens are then shipped to China for processing, so they will come back spotless and healthy.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Hmmm chinese chicken. I hope they come back general tso' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'FDA approved the measure, so what could go wrong?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'wait whats going on' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'OK off the cuff , there are 2 types of economy the hand to mouth kind and the on paper kind there are 2 types of markets the melons I can feel of the speculative there are 2 types of religion one for the masses and one for the prests there are 2 types of ppl one lives hand to mouth and the other lives off the back of the first .. something I'm working on thinking ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'very simple world you live in' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'there are two types of theory. straw and sound' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'There are two types of strippers, the kind that let you touch, and the kind that don't ... so?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'hah you must be poor, i touch them all' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'there are stoats too :P http://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/RhdNuAY.jpg' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'stupid fucking bottles not refilling themselves.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'you have to piss in em Tae .. males come equiped with a hose for that :P' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'OK I'm drunk .. again .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'i'm sober! as usual ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'and yet on a day to day basis I make more sense than you Xy .. one of us is not taking thier vitamins :P' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'sobriety living life to the fullest' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '5edgy2me' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'if thats ur fullest .. ouch ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Is adderall considered sober?' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Everyone just prepare to be wowed by our new Queen ... billary. ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'LOL' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I billary' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i anit worried.. she will be injail anyday now' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'they have been telling me for 12 years' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I mean, going to work is going to be so much fun. PC? Not anymore. Staring at the DD chicks chest who decided to wear a see through skin tight shirt? Not an issue after Billy gets in the news again for boinking some intern and the media says its normal for men to want to do that.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'bill looks like a stuff wind will break his hip, i think those days are past him' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I'm sure glad I work from home' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I work in a magical place where over 50% of the staff is female, and they pretty much all dress like the non in bikini chicks in custom chopper magazines.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'basically the majority of my coworkers could be mistaken for WWE female standins.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'New debate ... how much my job rulez more than your job.' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I work for a very well reknowned cloud based hosting company, remotely, from my home office in Berkeley, making twice as much as I used to make when I worked as Tier 2 support for (mt) Media Temple' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'And I have meetings in my underwear' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I make basically nothing, but I spend most of my day in my cube trying to not have a boner. I win ' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, trying not to have a boner, vs being able to actively have a boner and do something about it...I dunno that "win" is the word I'd use ;-)' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'LOL' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'HAH~!' T3/r7/2016-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Yes, I do things with my boners quite often, especially once my g/f gets home from work' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"What on Earth?" (COTTage channel 641) indicates there's lots of fracking in Eastern Australia (as seen by satellite night-photos) - Australia is getting polluted' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'What the frack' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'flaring from hydraulic fracturing' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wreep: 'LONGER HOURS FOR LOWER WAGES' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'globalization is a bitch' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wreep: 'I AGREE.' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wreep: 'THINGS ARE BAD. ' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'fox news, is that you?' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wreep: 'I wish it were Fox News.... Then we'd know it wasnt true' T3/r7/2016-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wreep: '....Liberal media.' T3/r7/2016-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Cruz and Kasich decide to cooperate against Trump. Perhaps they are trying to disprove Trump's idea that the system is rigged?' T3/r7/2016-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ivannah Cares: 'Perhaps they just really don't want a progressive conman in the white house?' T3/r7/2016-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada nods. T3/r7/2016-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Establishment con men are best.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '"my 1 priority as president will be jobs and econmic growth"-ted cruz, same guy that votes time after time to increase h1b visa.. lol poltics' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'I thought his number one priority was to intervene in my sex life' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: ''murican jobs. duh.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'but some may not know what is or was an "h1b visa" and won't laugh ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Ted Cruz may be attenpting to get the celebrity vote' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'he will close planned parent hood too.. this guy is going to be so amazing' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'even though its been proven time and time again those videos were heavily edited..fuck it, fuck womens rights' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i dont know why i watch hannity..its just so hard to understand people buy into all this crap' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'from those illiterate hooked on phonyx 'muricans that may not know "Ted Cruz" is not "Tom Cruise" the celebrity' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"never underestimate the illiteracy of 'muricans" -- xchan?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '("phonix" was deliberately misspelt as "phonyx" to emphasize the "phony" - 'muricans hooked on "phony x" ("x": unknowns))' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when you murder 1000 people with an ice pick but make incredible arts of some kind. how many years would it take for people appreciating without grudgy feelinz?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'you can appreciate the art without forgiving the artist' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drodus: 'oooh, deep' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'deep math' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'how do you put it in a scientific formula?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'btw, Augent - that might not be true. murdering is ok i guess but molesting is unforgiveable.. nowadays. eh.. not even. nowadays in civil countries' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'there's a lot of artists who have been accused of various sex crimes and people are willing to overlook it' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Roman Polanski for one' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'cosby the other hand - not' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'His artistic merit is debateable <_<' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'heck. it was a fun show' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'but now its not cool at all' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Bill Clinton apparently assaulted all those women and most people are willing to turn a blind eye. You can ignore anything if you want to.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i only know about the cigar. if he had used force, the cigar would have crumbled. so. all nice legal:)' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'sometimes the art has extra ..meaning because of the crimes of the painter think Bundy or Gacy .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'not so much bundy but Gacy's clowns are extra creepy because you know some of the mind behind them ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'my brother told me about his elementary school classmate who draw dark nasty pics with robbers and knives on them. later he found out that the dude was in jail. ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'art imitates life' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'he was a natural born psycho' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'I drew some nasty awful stuff too what little kid doesn't?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'R - right?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'he did that all the time, bro said' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'the "homocidal triad" is bed wetting , cruelty to animals and firestarting. art too perhaps ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'whenever they were asked to draw something, all he did was that ugly shit' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'art is sometimes said to be self expression of the uncontious ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Oh I just liked to draw my teachers as big naked hairy landwhales.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I gues that bears out sometimes but look at Goya for instance .. some freaky paintings .. really ugly but not a nasty guy ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i hated my teacher very much but never draw her' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'just on art I discovered H R Giger a few days ago watching a doco on Aliens movies .. well worth a look ! ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'dcool' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'but not as cool as... ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'shiit. must spend a few mins' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'smoke some weed and watch: eduard viiralt' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when i was a kid i spend a lot of time just watching this pic http://art.turm.ee/klassikud/wiiralt/porgu.jpg' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'checking it out now :) love his tiger !' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'aww lappy dun like the link :(' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'viiralt "hell"' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'kinda greyscale Duhrer/bosch very cool!' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'found another image of it :)' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'some serious attention to detail there doest he draw with a lens ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'have to read up on him ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'half expect the chan police to kick us to the art chann :P' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mique: 'you have an art channel??' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'he is dead. but he had fat glasses' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'lol will have to read up on him and was tounge in cheek - art channel- :P' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mique: 'oh i cant wait till Igrow up some more and have some of those channels you got' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'sadly there is no art chann .. or a cooking chann .. but I'd enjoy both :)' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'very small entry in wiki on him ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ivannah Cares: 'I want a Buffy channel' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'nah. look, food makes gossip channel to wake up..' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Bacon makes Goss chann wake up .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal . o O ( ) T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'wow rough crowd .. still it is as much about presentation as about taste ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there::)' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'lol yup .. go ol bacon :)' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'oh, *this* is the politics channel' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Is debate curse friendly, because I can't talk about someone without swearing.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'the warning said it was x-rated, i think that includes swearing' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'help channels has a nice listing :-)' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you are allowed to debate while naked.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Fucking CT, RI, and DE are step on their own dicks against eminent domain but somehow voted for MR eminent domain old ladies out of their homes?! WTF?!' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'for some it's an advantage...for others it's not' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'my theory is that trump will actually have a chance in the general, because he's going to shift back to his former moderate liberal self' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'it's the long con imo' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I just checked 270 to win, and HRC beats Trump in 38 out of 40 polls and those 2 were by 2 and 3 points' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'between Cruz and Kasich they had better collect up at least 215 delegates, 232 just to be safe.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Xei: You're absolutely right.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I am voting for Andrew Johnson' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'the thing i'm wondering is how many bernie supporters will actually get behind shilldog' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'are we talking 90%? 70%?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: '20% ?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Though I don't think it matters.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'yeah i mean it could be that low, i think it's probably comparable to the conversion rate between ron paul --> romney in 2012 - it was a surprisingly low %' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Douchebag is drawing a lot of crossover vote right now.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Barnie who?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So I don't think it matters if #berners stay home.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'why not?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'I think most Bernie people will support Hillary. There's a lot of them loudly proclaiming they won't but that's just the loud ones, as usual' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Billary is going to receive substantial additional votes in the general election when the people voting for fucktard jump back to the other side of the aisle.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Remember in 2008 all those vocal Hillary supporters claimed they would never vote for Obama but in the end everyone fell into line' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'which one is 'fucktard'?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'trick question i think' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The orange faced douche who raped his second wife.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'As long as Ted Cruz is nowhere near the white house I'll at least be able to sleep at night.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'trump is a lot of things, i suspect he's smarter than his rhetoric leads on - i'm not sure if there's been a candidate in my lifetime that has been able to beat the media at their own game like he has' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'dick dribble is going to make everyone wish they had voted for Cruz. ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Missing from around 23:04:00 to 23:50:26 T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gruagach: 'sounds like some high energy, highly motivated team players right there' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'It's like fucking ground hogs day and the executive team is aware of it corporate wide.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So the execs response is force everyone out that we can and replace them with temp workers until we water down the resistance enough to just bring in a whole new IT department.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'But by the time that plan could work most of these position will be done by AI.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'I'm worried cause my back-up plan in life has always been to become a long-haul trucker but we'll have self-driving trucks on the road in no time.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Yeah, I think over the road is going to transition to "monitored in cab" in 10 years, and by 15, all robotic.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You could get into urban delivery.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'urban LTL will still be manned work for the forseable future.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Like in Mirror's Edge?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'WHat is that?' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Video game where you parkour around city rooftops delivering packages to avoid the dystopian Big Brother government's omnipresent surveillance.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'really good' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Sounds like fun, let me not be a fat ass and maybe that will be my next career.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aphelion: 'omnipresent surveillance is not a theory, is a practice.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aphelion: 'you can't navigate a big city these days without triggering at least one camera.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'The tech used for over the road is probably going to be a mixture of embedded sensors, and gps. But that won't work in the inner city, or anywhere very densely populated where roads are crap. ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'they have all the data but I doubt they have the power to make any sense of most of it' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aphelion: 'and if you evade surveillance they will know it because the are expecting you to show up on camera. ' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So for the forseeable future I expect shipping hubs to receive over the road like they do outside main cities, and that last leg being manned.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aphelion: 'in general, no. But there are agencies with specific needs that can extract imformation from the stream.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'it's one thing to have a database with a billion terabytes of cctv, phone call and internet data... making sense of it will be tough. But they'll figure it out eventually' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'That crap only works in super high density areas. I live in a city of about 22k and there are debates over even the red light cameras still. My city is literally the right mayor away from abandoning the police state.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aphelion: 'there are automated agents that take care of that' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aphelion: 'they are similar to the web crawlers.' T3/r7/2016-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'the police state is dependent upon large numbers of detached subjects who vote without considering consequences. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Aphelion: 'ok, so no red-light cameras, but the hardware store owner may have a camera just to make sure they catch a robber or a shoplifter.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Yeah that ... but that is cost dependent.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I keep getting a surveilance system at my legion kicked down the road because I keep asking if the offset of reduced vandalism is even equal to the cost of the system in monthly fees.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Another way around the whole police state is to find populations of low income housing in areas that do not publically report crime in those areas.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'They typically do not have surveillance systems due to social engineering.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Tzadkiel - The future of our species lies in being inclusive, rather than exclusive. Pride in ones race breeds fealings of exclusivity and thusly results in toxic relationships between people who are not a part of your 'race'. I would argue that what you're considering to be 'metal', is merely something that you've adopted as a result of social conditioning.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'Yes !!! we need to be inclusive ! I agree .. trouble of it is some fwits like hitler have fukd my races rep for the rest of us .. there is a proud white race to reclaim it ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'With that mindset, what is your opinion of bi-racial families and children?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'I like girls , I like white skin I like smary girls .. I don't wanna be hooked up on some failed third go around on some BS program involvinf eugenics and healthy ppl ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I wasn't asking about you and who you are attracted to, I was asking about some bi-racial family and their children that you have no direct connection to. Some people you might see walking down the street.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Would you be inclusive or accepting of them, or would you see them as some how inferior or lesser?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: '.. cut me to the core .. if you fins TRUE LOVE and its another gorl well I'll take it . and that means everything else as well .. but just as a guy likes a girl with big tits I like one with white skin ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I think you're not understanding my question.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hwuaijijal: 'i want gorl too now. whats a gorl?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'It's when you combine a girl and an orange. They have a nice citrusy flavor and scent :D' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'Nec I understand the question full well .. and .. I'd so much like to say I'm OK with ir breeding .. and on the rational level I am and I know it will happen .. but I'm not a perfect individual , I'll never say to a kid not to but .. I'd be dissapointed without meeting her and knowing her to be an individual avove the norm ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'were it my child that wanted to marry ANYONE , tey'd have to be exceptionall .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'What would be disappointing?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'And again, you still don't understand my question.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'Nec I'm 25 and brought up in a way and totally fucked up in ways of my own choosing .. and perhaps some ways genetics .. I'd be warry at least and thats as evolved as I get .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I asked about a couple that you might see that is completely unrelated and unknown to you. Not your children or you or anyone in your family or even a friend. Some people, a family, a bi-racial family walking down the street that you might see, with children. What do you think of those people?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'I wish them well , knowing that my abhorent upbringing will be shed with my generation ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'So your opinion of them is that you wish them well?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: '... after long drinks and many a bemusings of times past and times present and future , I would , the same as any individual ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Well, in any case, I think that you see where I'm going with this. It is vitally important that race be dropped as a factor in how one views other people.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'in this we agree entirely Nec ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'you hetro ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'I'm not .. took me a lil finding to get ther e .. made me stronger ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I do choose the opposite sex as the object of my affection. Sexuality is something I don't even consider in my relations with other people though. I just know what I like. I don't really care what anyone else likes lol :D' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'as long as they don't grab my butt :D' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Hetero or not, I don't want random people grabbing my booty :P' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'you may be the most hightly evolved being I'll have winked at tonight then .. There is much of dinosuar left in me and some of it is .. do you like the Bearchboys music ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'beachboys*' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'but yeah, I think sexuality falls along the same lines as race. It doesn't make a person better or lesser than to be of any specific preference. It's a symptom of our exclusive style of society that it is 'hard' to come out as anything but hetero.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'nah is easy to be les in Aust . but do you like the Beachboys music ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Again, my opinion on the materr is that we are inclusive to ALL humans and ultimately to all living entities. The entire universe is relational' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'In the end, this is all just my opinion and anyone can do and think in any way that they like. I just feel like the world would be a better place if everyone just loved one another lol' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'OK lets get a lil .. esoteric .. if a rat runs the same maze for a reward and then the rats spawned off the same rats are marched against rats that have never been in the same maze the rats apawwned of the mother maze rat run better times .. what does this say ? racial memory ?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'First of all, what is the purpose of this maze and what is it ultimately trying to prove? Why are they running the maze in the first place?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Shouldn't the mice be free to interact and live as they choose?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'it's a wall known experiment in genetic memory and is a moot point ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Why would they be forced to run some maze?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'hoomans run rats in mazes .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Yes, an experiment designed to compare the abilities of mice, not how to create worldwide peace and improve relations between human beings.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I honestly don't even really understand the question or how it relates to what we were talking about.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'OK fukit you can do the research for ursel here .. is moot the rats and mazes gig shows some memory that is genetic ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I understand that, but what does genetic memory have to do with how people treat each other?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'have a rat . it runs a maze - this rat has rats they run the same maze - introduced rats run the maze slower than the maze rats QED' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'Nec .. life is not like a maze ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I can definitely understand the metaphor of life being likened to a maze, but again, what does that have to do with how humans treat each other?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'well thats bloody easy .. up unril recently the human jungle rats looked at a 20m range and the hooman artic rats looked at a 10m range .. some forms of survival were bred into diff rats ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I'll wait for you to finish your point, because I still don't see how any of that relates to how humans should treat each other. You're merely spouting of facts that should have no impact on how one should treat others.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'OK there is no reason on an ethical level that anyone should treat another on anything but an equal plane . I am just stating that some rats brought up in jungles have racially benificial trough breeding atributes than a rat that was born and raised in another environment ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'LoL - So what? Bats have wings and evolved to be able to fly. That makes them better at moving long distances.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'The fact that bats can fly has about as much impact on how humans should treat other humans as does beneficial breeding of rats.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'OK we've done this to death .. the real divide is socioeconimical . would you agree ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I guess I still don't understand the point you were trying to make Tzadkiel. What exactly were you trying to convey with that information?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'I was saying that there is genitic memory .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Yes, but why?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'OK we've done this to death .. the real divide is socioeconimical . would you agree ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I don't think there should be any divide, whatsoever. Yes, that divide does exist, as do racial, sexual preference, relgious, etc. My whole point is that these divides should not exist.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'People just need to get along, regardless of those factors. Everyone should treat all others equally. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'wel I du nKnow .. we can get all esoteric if you like but the facts atr that if a mammal does a thing for a few generations they are going to be more predisposed to be doing the same thing well .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'OK now .. to the ecomomy ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'LoL...' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Yes, that is a fact of nature and has no bearing on how one should relate to others. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: '.. lets agree to disagree on that ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'There's not much that can be said about the economy other than that trickle down economics, which started in 1982 under the reagen administration was a complete and utter failure.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: '. lets not ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'You are fully free to think in any way that you want to Tzadkiel. I've already said that these are just my thoughts and opinions. You can do whatever you want ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'thankyou for my ? free will ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'big of you to grant it .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I was just agreeing to disagree :D' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I wasn't actually disagreeing with you, just trying to understand where you were coming from, which I still don't.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tzadkiel: 'agree that you will make not a lick of difference without flying a plane into a building or inventing cold fusioon and we'll smile . otherwise thanks for making me feel OK about how far I've come visavi the apparen racism issue ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Ted Cruz believes there is no place for strokin' in online gameplay' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'that whole thing today..you know your campaign isnt going good when 30% of the people think you're big announcement is that he is going to drop out' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I dun know that ted but wow rigmarole to vote away a democracy .. that ppl vote and then forget politics for another few years until it becomes watercooler talk again .. .. labrats have more democracy than that .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'if you want to vote on a daily basis .. buy it .. vote Coke ? buy Coke .. vote Australian/American made an owned .. buy it .. noone F with the dollar ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Tomorrow Ted Cruz will be giving his inaugural address' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'Next Monday, appointing his cabinet' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'gl on his woodwork skills' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'hah' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i wonder if bernie sanders will run 3rd party' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I watched my fist american election with some interest .. this one .. really seems like the sideshow while the main event is happening ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'its funny the internet age' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the election hasnt even started yet and we have all the fancy charts' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Gru you buy into all of it ? ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i've been watching way more than i should' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'they are all trash' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'news for the masses needs pictures .. hence the charts .. but you really think the elected will make a difference ?' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i never thought so..but some of the things trump is saying could really have blowback if he can implement them' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I want Trump to cause WWIII .. ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'if in office Trump the figurehead will be little more than a pawn in the decades long infrastructure that is the US government imo ' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'thats my hope' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if any of you have read the yankee/cowboys war theory you'll understand that hillary will probably win the election if nominated (she is a cowboy and no yankee has been president since kennedy)' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'what kills me is he has failed 4 businesses, i mean who fails at a casino..uses temp workers, creates products over seas..' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'he is in a position of power now to help america but never has' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'note that party affiliation doesn't matter.' T3/r7/2016-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'll check it out' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'one thing bothers me. whenever the hobbit crew went through some huge epic places, there was no construction work anywhere. only the evil parts of middle earth had it going.. and constanly.' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'thats because infrastructure is for getting things done, while good is for standing around being nice.' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'good is also dumb, which is why evil, with its focus on infrastructure, will always triumph in the end.' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i bet the elves were busy bees for a week before the crew came through. then they acted all majestic and chill. for show' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Elves are Always chill comes from the long life see ' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'hypothesis: Pokemon, the animated series, is actually symbolic of a young man's fruitless struggle to fill the void left by his absentee father' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'so all that time, he really wanted to be chosen by the mons, rather than the other way around? kinky. 'cause, you know ... balls.' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'no, not quite my assertion - the pokemon are not filling the void. his pursuit of the pokemon is filling the void. so, the most appropriate analogy is drug dealing in inner cities' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'lacking any opportunity for economic or social mobility, young fathers are forced into drug dealing, which means they're out and about and not home to help rear the child' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'well, the show _Was_ primarily built to sell those cards. theres a reason they called 'em cardboard crack.' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'in this case ash's father was out training "drug dealing" (training pokemon to be the best), so he wasn't home to actually teach ash what life was really about, eventually leading ash to hopelessly pursue his father's goals without understanding why' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'obviously, those dads should be teaching their kids a trade. like interpersonal commerce.' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xei: 'preferably with commodities that don't land you in jail' T3/r7/2016-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Trump & Billary are the love children of Satan and a crosseyed goat ' T3/r7/2016-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Free choice which yuou may relish until the Trump regime sets in full force.' T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Mannec falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2016-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'questing in adventure for a trumpetfish, 'bs trump'!' T3/r7/2016-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Trump up to 96% in prediction markets to win the Indiana primary, up to 90% for the republican nomination. Cruz will go to the convention kicking and screaming no matter what, but the 2016 nominees could be all but settled by tomorrow night.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I know the prediction markets don't really mean anything, but Ted Cruz now sitting with Paul Ryan at 2% to win the republican nomination. Kasich at 3%.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I don't think he has any chance of getting the nomination' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'however, I think he still has a chance of forcing a contested convention.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'polls closed in Indiana and everybody is immediately projecting Trump victory.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I think the chances of a contested convention are slim now.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I think the numbers were 315 a few days ago, I saw today that everyone but Trump need to pull 240 of the remaining delegates.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'if Trump sweeps Indiana he'll need about 220 with 475 delegates left in the states and 146 unbound. California will net him almost half that, maybe more.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Indiana, and California make it easy to force contention.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'It will also interest me to see what happens with all the states that have bound, and unbound delegates like Penn' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'right, which means a Trump sweep (or near sweep) in Indiana means a brokered convention is unlikely' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I guess what I said earlier is moot :p GOP is officially stuck with Trump.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'nay, blessed' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Unless they change the rules now and thwart him.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'wont happen' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'with Cruz out that won't happen' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'You have to get x number of delegates AND eat a bushel of ghost peppers in one hour without drinking anything.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'assuming he doesn't drop out too, Kasich would have to get greater than 50% of the vote in each of the remaining states to deny Trump the guaranteed nom.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'and right now Kasich is sitting in 4th place in a 2 man race.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Really, Kasich isn't that bad of a candidate, just no exposure.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'if not for his anti-abortion bent I could've seen myself voting for Kasich.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'we are this far along and no one has discussed Cruz's plan to go on the gold standard, or Trump's healthcare policy, or anything else. Even Trump is suffering from massive under-exposure. (at least if you want to know anything about the canidates)' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Kasich" doesn't sound USAmerican - what's the ethnic background - suggest maybe a name change to something more "American" - more in line with former Presidential names' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'like Obama :)' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Kasich is still better than Van Buren for a name.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'choosing the right "product name" is important, a name that won't give voters indigestion' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'broad strokes are more important in a two party system than specifics.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'anti-abortion religious nutters are unworthy candidates' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Not in a country where many people believe in angels.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Cruz was always too socially conservative to even win the republican nomination' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Cruz sounds hispanic' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'he is hispanic' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Because he is Cuban.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that was half of the point: GOP realized after 2008 and 2012 that they needed to appeal to conservative latinos, hence Rubio and Bush (fluent Spanish speaker, married to a latina) being the top "establishment" choices.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'and Canadian :)' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Cruz has the Cuban background but is anti-immigration to the point that he said he'd be willing to use the military to forcibly remove immigrants from their homes' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Born to a Cuban father and American woman on Canadian land.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'GW Bush ruined the finances -- so using incompetent leaders (with ethnic connections) to appeal to the ethnic minorities is extremely bad strategy' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Rubio, Bush, and Walker were all terrible candidates from the start' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Hard to find a good candidate with what was offered.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I think most people could find one good candidate on the Republican side. They may be disappointed that that good candidate was out of the running early (or happy they won), but that candidate was there.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'unbelievable' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: '"good" candidate being that person's perspective.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I always liked Gary Johnson but the GOP drove him off to the Libertarian party.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: '73% reporting, Sanders won in Indiana.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'surprising, polls and early returns were saying Clinton' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I read an article earlier that said with 5% reporting, Clinton won.' T3/r7/2016-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Sanders has a 32k vote lead with 73% reporting.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'so..I hear the Republicans are running out of candidates' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'better hope that last fellow doesn't quit too' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'and the demos started with none right?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada grins evilly at Burzum. T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I think they have some socialist granddad fellow' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'let's just pretend this whole primary thing never happened and let Obama stick it out for another eight years.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'that would accelerate the race wars, I think' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'it's odd the way he seems so intent on fanning the flames' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '...race war?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'oh you mean the racist white people that are angry they don't automatically get preference over everybody else any more' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'modern technology was ushered in by whites and ... ' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Xyliz starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping. T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I don't understand what you're trying to get at' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if this were irc, i'd fan the flames' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the internet is full of angry white boys that want to blame their personal problems on minority groups. doesn't take much to get them going :p' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the GOP tried to incite that rage and pull those people over to their side only to wind up with a protectionist inheritance baby with a platform built primarily on xenophobia.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"protectionist inheritance" - is that "Whites got it, Whites are keeping it" - maybe in Europe, with ancestral blood rights et cetera, but in America, the land was originally aboriginal' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'oh, by protectionist, I meant protectionist foreign trade policies and by inheritance I mean that he was born into money :p' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Chinese seem to own a lot of money, the Americans seem to owe a lot of money' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Bush then Obama jacked up the American national debt' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and that is usamerican national Debt with a capital D' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'China's debt has been ballooning and their growth has leveled off. American debt is primarily owned by Americans.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'fiat currency + fractional reserve system = debt forever. just an FYI' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Americans owning America' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'you Americans, you is owned! ' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'well fiat currency and fractional reserve systems are both positive things, so maybe debt isn't that bad' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'politicians who support a gold standard over fiat currency are doing so just to get votes from people who don't know any better. it wouldn't actually be changed.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'debt forever is paying the rich interest on the debt forever - unless there is a clawback' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'didn't work for france' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'or germany' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'and now, certainly not us' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'or we could drive inflation a little bit and make the whole thing moot.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'specify what did not work - you are incoherent' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'a fiat currency' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'and they didn't have its already unstable idea compounded by the fractional reserve system' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I still have no idea what point you're trying to make' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'i believe someone was discussing america's debt - when i felt obligated to point out it can never be repayed, ever' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'so it is really a non issue' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'what does fiat currency or a fractional reserve system have to do with that?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'a "free ride for the rich" is not a non issue' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'the fed loans X$ for a bond+Xinterest. only X$ exists, thus X$+interest cannot be repayed for the bond' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'it is a perpetual debt system ' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'i can simplify it for you' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'lol ok' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'i am going to make a new currency' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'it is called Doll Hairs' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'let's get these doll hairs out to the public and economy, shall we?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'so you, the government, will take 1 million doll hairs from me, the federal reserve, in exchange for bonds' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'so now you have 1 million doll hairs, and i have 1 million in bonds' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'however, the bonds i have come with interest' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'so you need to pay me back one million doll hairs plus 5%' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'where do you get the 5%???' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'that is step one in our busted system' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I don't think you understand the mechanics' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'lol?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'your example only works if you pretend inflation and time value of money don't exist' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'hell the 1 million+5% could be worth less than the initial 1 million when the bond matures' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'my example is a mirror of how a dollar is created, then subsequently put into circulation' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'you're confused, sir' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so you're saying, no matter what, 1 million dollars today will always be worth less than 1.05 million dollars 15 years in the future?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'and what does fiat currency and fractional reserve system have to do with this at all?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'you're going waaaaay further than you need to man' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'you were set to convince everyone how a fiat currency and a fractional reserve system results in endless debt then proceeded to go into something totally unrelated' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'well all of these are 1. macroeconomic topics and 2. directly affect one another' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'explaining the very first and basic debt transaction between the gov and the fed has nothing to do with FRS and fiat currency? ok...' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Liechtenstein has no debt, but they use a fiat currency and a fractional reserve system. Norway has debt despite the government holding nearly a trillion dollars in oil profits.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'no, it doesn't have anything to do with it, because a government can issue bonds with or without a fiat system and with or without a fractional reserve system.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'hahaha' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'licht has a surplus of less than 100m' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'their budget is 400m' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'it's pretty easy not to mess up their little chips' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but you're asserting a fiat currency and a fractional reserve system, independent of everything else, create debt.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'licht also has pretty competetive bank secrecy' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'not the fiat currency, but the fractional reserve system yes' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'everyone uses a fiat currency except for like Mongolia' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'Raded, I must go, but thanks for the chat - I suppose I may need to study some more and check this out again' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'but only because they are backed by the US fiat Dollar' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'so its fiat X fiat' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'ty though! have a good day sir' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Burzum: 'will read more' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'Serious question: WTH does cuck mean?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'short for cuckold probably' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'don't google either unless you want weird porn.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'Thanks.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'is japananime illegal in australia' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'no but I think somebody was sentenced to a long prison term for having pornographic images of The Simpsons a few years back' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'prudery, copyright infringement, corrupt outraged jurisprudence, ' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'found an article about it: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/bart-simpson-child-pornography-and-free-speech/?_r=0' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'not homer and maggie then' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'childporn is detestable' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'it is, but the cartoon thing is odd. the concept that you could sit down with a pencil and paper and draw something that lands you in prison is weird.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '"you didn't draw pants on that stick figure! child porn! 15 years in prison!"' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'don't you think there is too much entertainment?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'like 99% public stuff is supposed to entertain and collect somehow?' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'you suggesting: sackcloth and ashes, or North Korea style entertainment, or ' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Oliver Cromwell was an abomination' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean even dead serious and depressing shit is used to get some coins nowadays' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there are sad bipolar youtube shows' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'and docs that show people with awful diseases' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'just to sell ads. no other reasons' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and you this because you watch those dead serious depressing sad bipolar youtube shows ...' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'talk about ungrateful ' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '(j/k)' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'yeah. but why talking about you and me. that wasn't the topic.' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'those shows are not entertainment, those shows are warped twisted misguided "educational" , and they eventually lose audiences, lose subscribers, and are cancelled' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'examples: "The Suzanne Summers Show" became depressing, and then was cancelled -- the audience was anticipating "Three's Company" cheerfulness and was given depression' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'most astronomy docs don't care to add a label "real pic" "cgi" "photoshopped" to their footages. um.. none of them actually' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Dr Oz Show at the start was entertaining then became depressing as Dr Oz paraded grossly obese tublardies - not able to pay me enough to watch yccch tvshow, not voluntarily ' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'Moral Orel got incredibly depressing by the end. it was so good in a terrible way' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'so you are likely objecting to the falsification and falsity of the documentaries' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the Investigation Discovery fictionalised crime documentaries became depressingly unwatchable since the data presented (using actors) was visually false' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'the Cosmos series was quite good' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'neil deGrasse Tyson' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Investigation Discovery shows: first presentation, watched one month of one month, second presentation a year later, watch three weeks of 6 weeks, third presentation a year of similar shows on another channel, a few hours and no more - too many visual lies, too much obfuscation' T3/r7/2016-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'those depressing shows used the wrong techniques, unless the intent was to sensitise the audience to avoid watching that crap' T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'US Justice Deparment has determined that North Carolina's HB2 "Bathroom Bill" violates the Civil Rights Act and has ordered the state to confirm that they will not implement or comply with HB2.' T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Bathroom Bill .. is that like Clintons out takes ? ' T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if you really love war and dont care about who did what or who did who, which side would you pick? i'd avoid the team with bazookas because the western media has told me they are lame. ' T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'modern bazooka = at4 = best thing in the world to shoot at a dude on a donkey' T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'id avoid getting into a tank also.' T3/r7/2016-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'id probably sit in the center and shoot the helmets off from each side' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Trump is like FDR. He is bringing a New Deal to America.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It is a Huge Deal' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Actually, I heard the deal is pretty small. I mean, look at his hands.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ivannah Cares: 'Yuge*' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Quote: "The worst of times often create the best opportunities to make good deals."' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I'm struggling to understand what he is standing for' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'He is standing for Trump. Plain and simple.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'So he will start by creating the worst of times.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'And he has a great start, destroying one of America's political partys' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'that might be true, but that doesn't say what he is planning on doing' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'He is planning on dealing. Dealing for himself' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Well, he is most definitely going to fuck up the countries defecit. ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'He's going to lower taxes for everyone' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Which isn' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Isn't necessarily a good thing' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Can I curse on this channel?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'He has no authority to do any such thing' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'GW Bush wrecked the finances, Barack Obama hydraulic-frac wrecked the environment, what's left for the next Pres to wreckr' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'True, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to lobby for it to happen.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the rest of the world?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'help channels' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'as though the taxes were not low enough already in the USA -- no wonder there is a huge (yuge) national Debt in the USA - not enough taxes (on the rich)' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'If you keep giving tax credits to the rich, they'll turn around and spend all those savings, invigorating the market.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'What we really need is a return to the days when the government can only tax based upon tariffs, and government usage fees.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Trickle down economics is a complete failure and has been ever since Ronal Raegan introduced it back in the 80's' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'That's why we need colonial taxation policies.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Taxes on our colons?!' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Taxes on our colons?!' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Only if you poop in a government toilet.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'oopps' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I for one would like to see a one time tax forgiveness on all IRA savings, recognizing the tomfoolery and hoax that was played on the working public when their pensions were stolen.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'what the rich did with all the excess monies (from lower taxes) was play the reckless derivatives game and wrecked the finances into a financial meltdown' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'richer rich is a recipe for financial disaster' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Get rid of all money, all transactions in chickens!' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'We were told No Pensions for you! Instead you can save your money until you are too poor to have to paty taxes on it. Fuck that rich bastards' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ivannah Cares: 'so much jealousy of other people's money here =b' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Sounds fair enough' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'plan ahead, have no debt, and live off of savings?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I only want what I earned, is that jealousy?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ivannah Cares: 'no, wasn't directed at you though' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'We earn nothing. It is all owned by the government.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Commie' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'LOL' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I never said I agree with it, I am just aware of the reality of it.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You cannot fix a problem until you know what the problem is.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Well, the reality is that it is not the government at all.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'From those who can to those who sucle at the tit, is that it?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'The government doesn't rule anything. We are 'governed' by an oligarchy of corporations that lobby for their own self interests.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'WELL, Neclord you are sort of correct.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Not even sort of. Politicians are largely puppets for the organizations that fund their campaigns.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Most of the government is ran, and regulated by bureaucrats. Elected officials have ceded an amazing about to the executive branch.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'As long as Citizens United stands. End it. You have the power in your hands. One Supreme Justice would end it. Hilary would Nominate that Justice.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'LoL' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'the corporations have little to no power compared to the department heads' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Hilary is literally Bill Clinton without a penis' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Neklord is going for laughs LOL' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Hillary is literally Bill Clinton without a proxy to operate through, and no charisma.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Hillary = 8 more, official years.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'and how do you think those heads made their way into those positions? By sheer willpower and virtue of spirit?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Of ability to nominate liberal Supreme court justices not moronic fools like Bush put in' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Evil, cunning, an unsatisfiable desire to oppress the masses.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I'm pretty sure that if you look at their resumes, most of those department heads have deep ties with heads of industry and corporations' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Most of them are career government employees.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Long Game, one thing at stake. The lifetime duration of a Supreme Court appointment' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Want to see massive change in the federal government? Ban unions for federal employees.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Or make it a death sentence if a politician is caught doing something underhanded.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'That is a matter of perception.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'how would blocking unions for federal employees help anything' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'What you view as underhanded I might view as strategy.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'won't ague that. The unions were meant to protect employees from oppressive employers. If we say Government employees need that, we are saying the Gob=vernment is an oppressive employer. There is a better way to fix that.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Well, the military is forbidden by risk of court martial from organizing because it is considered detrimental to national security.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Taeryn, but that may be an opportinty to frame politicians falsely and kill them' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the union provides a mechanism to ask for change, yes.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So is the rest of the government unionized not detrimental to the nation?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the military is forbidden to resign before the end of their contract because it's considered detrimental to the nation' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I know a county in California where the couny=ty Lawyers have their own public service employee union, and they all make over $200 an hour. Do you make over $200 an hour or think they should?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'In the same manner, wouldn't it be considered detrimental for other government employees to quit before their employment contract is complete?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Think of all the waste, delay, and loss because some process handler quit randomly?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Unionization of governmental employees has little to no impact on the overall operations of the government. Our current system of election and the money that can be given to politicians for lobbying is what governs their operations. Corporations can literally give fistfulls of cash to politicians to lobby for laws and policies that directly benefit their own interests over the interests of other parties, like the environment or local residents. Fracking is a perfect example of this in action. ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Like the government unions?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yes, and, it would be even better if, as well as stopping people quitting, we stopped them asking for pay as well' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'and provided government swill' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'k war' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'lolol' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Pay is so 20th century, we should work for free, and live in 200sqft government apartments.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'the point is that you the military has a number of limitations on it which would be detrimental to society as a whole, and which require very special handling to ensure are not abused within the context of the military as well.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'And the government itself had those same limitations at one time...' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Itrain' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'dammit' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'likewise, the military get abilities that most of society does not have, like the ability to shoot and kill people in foreign countries' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Government employees can shoot and kill people here. aka dea.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'that's a peculiarity of the US, yes' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'We could be like all the other countries and let the military police here ... then they could shoot and kill people here, and unionize!' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Nearly one billion dollars was wasted (in my opinion) to come to the incredible conclusion that Donald Trump was the best candidate the Republicans could put up in a race for the US Presidency. One billion dollars could have done an awful lot of good.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Says you. I think 2 billion spent over another couple months would have been better.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Shelkin is trolling' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'a billion dollars could buy everyone in the country a candy bar' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I like candy bars' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'that one billion dollars went somewhere - trickle somewhere economics' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'If you got your piece of that 2 billion today, and invested it, at todays interest rates you would have ... -100000000 dollars by the time you hit retirement age.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'it went to fabulously rich enterprises. It did nothing to stimulate the economy or the people at the bottom' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Shelkin, this is not the lame comedy channel' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I don't want my bottom stimulated' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'That's not true, those "enterprises" hired people who didn't compete with the rest of us for work, so in part we are currently employed and contributing to the economy because all those people worked for those campaigns.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Tight ass' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4HRDbkp4Ww' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Don't be a pussy, get in the car, we're making america great again.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'that comment would make more sense in context ... one moment.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'For a billion dollars, I could actually do what they expect me to do' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'http://i.imgur.com/ikbFXCw.jpg' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'For a billion dollars I would disappear off the grid and fish for a living ...' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Shelkin, just try random, you would get the same effect' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica reaches down and scratches himself... Now he looks VERY happy. T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Trump is going to make America greater than this ... "Your decapitation does UNBELIEVABLE things to a dark elf warrior! [4414]"' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Talking about making america great again made the zit behind my ear weak, and it finally popped. Top that Hillary!' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'How many random chicks do you think Bill is going to bang after Hillary gets indicted? ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'eleventyone' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'that's a lot.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'If she does. She and Bill have gotten out of more scandals than people have gotten out of Wal-mart' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Says the guy who knows someone in this channel was once lost in Walmart for 2 weeks surviving off of roachs, and dropped candy ...' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Career Opportunities" (movie 1991) starring Jennifer Connelly (and somebody miscast as Jim Dodge)' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I am thinking about all the sweet career opportunities when Trump makes america great again!' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Underpass hobo will become a career?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Augent: 'I should get my CDL so I can drive buses full of illegals in and out of the country' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'will become? I am pretty sure it already is.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'are there overpass hobos ? ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I know there were applications for it on monster the other day.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'greatererer' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I can't wait for all those Canadians to try and get in to try and get all our trump great jobs.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I am still confused as to why Mexico has to pay for a wall between America and Canada though.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I would have though the canadians would be happy to fund such a wall ? ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Canada is part of America' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'If we send canada all of its crappy beer back, will canada give us Quebec?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'as is Mexico, Argintina, Brazil, Chile, Columbia, Panama, and a couple dozen other countries' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Well Panama is... we've proven that twice.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the US is part of America too, you know, America is actually two Continents (North and South).' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Don't bring in your education and mumbo jumbo science Emm!' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some Canadians say that American Beer tastes like watered-down artificial chemical pisswater' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'WE're talking about Bald Eagles flying over beach babes, and shooting lazers out of their eyes at commies, none of that commie talk' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'The US is actually it's own continent. Murica. ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'And canadians would know what watered down artificial chemical pisswater is because that's all they have to drink, our pisswater, and their pisswater, we keep the good beer here. #lakeside brewery' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: '#1' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Canadians won't want a wall if the mexicans are going south from Canada south into the USA' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'True Fact: for every mexican that leaves Canada, Canada looses 10% of it's GDP, compounded.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Canada may want a wall to prevent USAmericans coming into Canada' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'They should just send their stripclubs to us, then we don't have a reason for going there.' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'as i don't frequent stripclubs, unable to say whether USAmerican stripclubs are sleazier' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'according to the canadian documentary anime "Fugget about it" season 1, the canadian stripclubs in Vagina Saskatchewan were nonsexual and not stripclubs at all' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Well the stripclubs along the Ontario New York border are ... well not legal in the US?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'American Prudes' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Damn Americans and their social ethics!' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Like they were founded by puritans or something. ..' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So how awesome is going to be when Palin is Trumps running mate? ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'more Tina Fey comedy' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Yeah, she needs a career boost. ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Fugget About It" s0102 "The Horny Bastard" (2012) (2014 disc1 211387DVA) "Jimmy opens Regina's first stripjoint, ..." ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I'm afraid to google that ... is that a documentary on how Trump made his fortune?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Edge of Tommorrow" (2014) starring Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt was an interesting action sci-fi film - that movie is likely illegal in China ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'tomorrow*' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'interestingly the movie title "Edge of Tomorrow" is translated into french as "Un Jour Sans Lendemain" (a day without morrow, a day without the next day) ' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'This channel is going to get good! Now I have beer! :)' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'no oxymoron would be mundane rare events' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'oops' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Not trying to start that debate huh?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'the best oxymoron is microsoft works :P' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"mundane rare events" is not an oxymoron' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Army Intelligence' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'or so said my stepdad who was an interrogator for AI :)' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"no oxymoron" is different to "no, oxymoron" -- proper punctuation is part of proper grammar' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"no oxymoron .." is vastly different in meaning to "no, an oxymoron .."' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"AI" is usually translated as "Artficial Intelligence"' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Wrong channel to look for intelligence ...' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Or do you really mean machine learning?' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Artificial Intelligence" is not necessarily "heuretic" or "heuristic" or "learning"' T3/r7/2016-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Oh sweet found a documentary on the origins of Greenpeace online. I think it talks about Trump and how he started Greenpeace :)' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I heard Donald Trump called a "basket case". That is wrong, in my opinion. When I think of a basket case, I think of the two Norton Commandos I saw side by side in a garage. One was the sacrificial victim, the basket case, to make the other a screaming example of restoring English motorcycle pride. Trump does not deserve "basket case". And he will never "Make America Great Again".' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'saying "make america great again" begs the question of when america was great and what isn't great now' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'but hearing trump make inflamitory statements is par for the course' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It is great for me. But walk downtown with me, and talk to the folks.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Go to a Social Security Office. Do it. Just sit there for one half hour.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'i was there last week for about 40 minutes to get income verification' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'That is why I wenty' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I was appalled' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I am told the VA is worse' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'well trump has to get his votes somewhere ... there are alot of people disgruntled' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Go drive through any inner city America. ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'which is sad, those who served should get best treatment' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'agreed on that shelkin i avoid down town with a passion' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'they were supposed to serve without getting mangled <-- the Official GW Bush view (and then maybe the Barack Obama view)' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: '"the very best treatment if you don't need any treatment"' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'There are segments of Milwaukee that literally just shutdown, and closed up, and nothing has happened except decay since the 1970s and 1980s. Literally, at least 2 generations of families that couldnt get out of the inner city, and are just trapped.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'this coming election should be interesting' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I think August to October will be more interesting.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I chose to live where I live. It is downtown in a large city, which is very attractive to homeless, warm except winter. The homeless men I meet on the street are almost all veterans. It's not good.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'the mix of homeless here is a bit of everyone but still alot of vets' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I would like to hear one of the candidates address this' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'That is bad, but less worrysome than the people who have no options. I am a vet, an involved in the vet community, and it's tough to get a handle on the homeless veteran population because they have to want to get help.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'yes, I only spoke of the older adult men.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Then there is the other problem.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'There is a segment of the homeless that live along the Milwaukee River, and the county is talking about rebuilding a dam that they have randomly opened in the past which has caused momentary flash flooding downstream.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I asked a VA rep if the VA would get involved to make sure better gate open sirens could get installed since the current sirens cannot be heard near the homeless encampments.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Basically the unofficial response was that the VA went down there a decade ago with the same concern, and tried to round up all the vets and get them out of there. When they were trying to validate the identities of the veterans to get them back on the grid and rehomed, etc ... 3 out 4 of the people ended up just being posers. ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So the VA is unlikely to get involved with this dam fiasco, and homeless drowning risk again.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'Shelkin, after seeing you troll on the channels, and then you say you are a vet, ... ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'As much as I supported Reagan in the 80s, he did spearhead the movement to shut down government (Federal and State) mental health facilities. It is true, many were barbaric (One flew over the cuckoos nest). But there was absolutely no plan to replace them, and millions of innocent people, unable to care for themselves, and some capable of harming themselves and others, were just dumped on the streets.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Zela, after realizing that this is a hack n slash based game played by people just trying to screw off and relax... ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: '( too many posers )' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: '( too many malingerers )' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sotura: 'get rid of the hosers!' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'zela use *think' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'It's the reality. Many people claim to be homeless vets, but they never even attempt to use the benefits available to them. The VA has serious issues, but the VA simply is not in the go F off, and shoving people out the door business. ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'yeah i usually doubt homeless with signs that say they are vets' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'it don't matter though i don't give money to them' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'From inside your windows rolled up air conditioned car - Oli?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'yeah, it's paid for' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I have seen people turned away because they failed means tests, I have seen people turned away because they refuse to help validate their identity. I have never seen someone turned away when they were being cooperative, and trying to give as much information about their service as possible.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'Arnica, *think is too loud. debate ( subdued passive comment) is not as loud' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin suddenly shouts "AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!" T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Shelkin likes loud :) T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica . o O ( I am James Boyd! ) T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'never heard of john cena' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Back to Oaks institution point. A bigger game changer than Reagan doing his maximum to get the federal government out of the average citizen mental issue problem was when most states passed committing reform.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'he is a wrestler turned movie star i think' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'At one time in Wisconsin anyone could get committed if the two closest relatives signed the paperwork.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'nasty' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'sucker punched' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Now you basically have to be a confirmed psychopath, or get caught in the act of self mutiliation/suicide.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'One extreme to the other.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'sheesh y=that would take care of half of eighth grade' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'i deserved it every time i was comitted :P' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Committed to drinking as much beer as possible?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: '*burps*' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Here is my only real problem. At the end of 2016, nearly 3 billion dollars will have been funnelled out of regular folks hands into the hands of media billionaires to merchandise the inevitable losers to Hilary Clinton. That money, however small in the big picture, could have done some good for vets and disadvantaged kids. It makes me puke.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Well, you can do one of two things, and depending on where you live, one or the other, but not both will work.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Join your local political party, and start some reform at the grassroots level, and drive it up.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Join a non/not-for-profit and advocate for reform.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Because like, you're advocating to a bunch of us now who... one clearly swaps back and forth consistently between her characters to do whatever it is she does' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'and guy who trolls the channels making John Cena comments while drinking on Fri & Sat nights :)' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'B. with vigor. https://movetoamend.org/' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Bah ...' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Where do you make a limit on spending money? Only money pulled out of the bank and given/used directly by a person with a SSN?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Shelkin Do you work for a large corporation? Have you had the opportunity to observe the organizational dynamics that obtain?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'As it is not Doubles, I'll take that as No' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I am not sure if it matters. If you overturn citizens united you basically state that only individual contributions matter, but we can't restrict personal resources, so you literally tilt the whole election process towards the ultra rich.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'unless you create a personal limit. But how do you quantify how that limit is reached? ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'If I am running for office, and the limit is 2000 dollars of my personal resources, do I have to depreciate and cost out the use of my car? The cost of the gas? How about the breakfast that I may have eaten before driving to a debate?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It matters. Organizations generate a kind of dynamic towards greater self good, that does not consider the greater whole of the economy or humanity. External forces must be imposed. There is no "Invisible Hand".' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Ok you win. any type of corporation cannot spend money. What about private people?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Can the Koch brothers, and George Soros still give private donations, and spend private resources supporting candidates?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Can George Clooney still hold 10k plate dinners in his home to support DNC candidates? ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I have no concern with private people, only the concept that "Corporatoions are people" my friend.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Ok, so basically you want a barrier to prevent private parties of lower means the ability to pool resources to offset the undue influence of the 1%' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Wer already have sane laws on individual contributions' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Do we?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'fund raising dinners' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Ron Paul, and Bernies Sanders disprove that claim. If not for citizens united they would not be able to do their $20 dollar donation games :)' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'We did until CU unleased hell by corporate and other group donations' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'And we have no limitation on private resources.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Bernie proves the power of democracy' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So Trump, Clinton, every other millionaire running for office can spend as much of their money as possible to get elected while Bernie would be blocked.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'How does Bernie compete with Clinton if there is no citizens united?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'No there are indivual limits and i am done discussing this with an uninformed wannabe right wing talk show host' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You say that now, but Trump running his entire campaign so far with his personal money proves you wrong :)' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'there is "an uninformed wannabe rightwing talkshow host" here, on Aardwolf debate ?!? ... ah, missed the "wannabe" ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'an? more like a couple dozen :)' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'heck for enough money I would wannabe one :)' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Do we have any uninformed wannabe leftwing talkshow hosts? It just seems so unfair that we are inunduated with those rightwinger types. Can we get some fairness up in here?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'gotta be eyecandy' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I'm sure we have more lefties than righties' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'waldo is harder to spot amidst "an uninformed waldo right wing talk show host" than amidst "an uninformed waldo rightwing talkshow host"' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'wannabe*' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You know what is not hard to spot, Rush Limbaugh in a pair of bermudas, smoking a stogie. It's like the lighthouse of Alexandria blinding anyone who looks.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'is that praise or satire' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'LOL ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You know what's fun? Go to a used book store, get all of the Rush Limbaugh books in the cheapo bin, then stock the most hippy looking houses "little free library".' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'used to buy a lot of discount books, some were extremely informative. i'd not waste money on Rush Limbaugh books' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'It's not a waste ... you're investing in entertainment, especially when the library hippy starts putting out signs to only take books, not leave them.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: '(I ask this here because it might lead to debate.) Anyone here work in the biology fields? Like DNR, or collegiate?' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zela: 'DNR "do not resuscitate" ' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'No not that one.' T3/r7/2016-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'heh, hunting a troll bodyguard right now. ' T3/r7/2016-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Is it crazy to think it is realistic to walk 1 city block for free parking?' T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'check this out: George Zimmerman is going to auction the gun he used to kill Trayvon Martin.' T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Feramors: 'what an asshole.' T3/r7/2016-05-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Yup. I can see the selling line for it now: With this little beauty, you can shoot anyone and get away with it!' T3/r7/2016-05-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I doubt a well funded military action is due to scamming .. ' T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Trump ate a baby today ... just because' T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I know it was in the news, it didn't hurt him in the poles.' T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It was no baby, it was a toddler, and it was yuge!' T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I mean polls.' T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'I think he is going to make his mexico wall out of eaten baby bones.' T3/r7/2016-05-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Reduce, Reuse, Recycle huh?' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'how much is Trump paying the Clinton campaign to put his name on the top of their front page?' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when Trump wins, what weapons will you buy to protect your home?' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'bass canon' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'moat with crocodils' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'a proper moat is not actually filled with water' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'mercury?' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'no, just empty' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I rent a flat and have an ocean between me and the US already..' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'the concept of filling a moat with water is so dumb. you have this deep trench between you and an invader that can only be crossed at the bridge, so why would you make it crossable at other points?' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'maybe it's the Tower of London, and you have water nearby anyway' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the invaders have to remove their bulletproof plates and then you can easily off them with a 9mm' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'this debate is too crazy. going back to see bilbo's dilemmas' T3/r7/2016-05-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when you were the main evil cunt of a nation, what would be the first thing you make them do for you?' T3/r7/2016-05-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vaeril: 'hello' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '300 unwatched dvd and brd here, and most of them are dubious viewing -- the movie industry produces a lot of crap' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'is there a good reason why conservatives are flipping out about transgender people in bathrooms?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it has to do with not wanting a pervy guy being able to go into the little girl's room with their 10-year-old daughters' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but they're chill with the pervy guy going into the little boy's room with their 10 year old sons?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'Abelinc: What's fathers going with their daughters to the bathroom got to do with transgender people?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'since there's no legal definition of someone's gender identity, me standing there panting and saying "I identify as a chix" qualifies' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'right, and unless you're assaulting someone or violating somebody's privacy, what's the big deal?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'if you're being perv-y in a restroom, doesn't matter how you identify' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'privacy doesn't always exist in restrooms' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Handground Anaristos: 'I was in a Borders' bathroom once and a woman walked in, smiled at me, and went into one of the stalls. Had it been a man doing the same in the women's toilet, they would have called the police. That seems to be most of the rethoric against unisex bathrooms: men going in them.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Ally McBeal's law firm had mixed restrooms 20 years ago and it was fine!' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so the logic is: we must discriminate against this group just in case somebody NOT in the group commits a crime?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '"this group" is undefinable' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '6 months ago, there were zero problems with this. now conservative men are following cis women into bathrooms to harass them because they think the women are trans.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Handground Anaristos: 'as far as the body public is concered perverts of any ilk and spousal abusers are men, women need not apply :)' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'okay, so we have the discriminatory law. how is it enforced?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Handground Anaristos: 'if a man walks in a women's bathroom, call the police else ignore.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'trans women that aren't conventionally attractive go to the men's room, trans women that are conventionally attractive get to do what they want?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Handground Anaristos: 'I admire your discerning eye :>' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Bishoujo Raded :p it's just such a stupid and indefensible belief. T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'as if there are these sexual predators out there that have been waiting for a law to allow them an excuse to go into the women's bathroom to quietly do their business and leave.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'because I'm pretty sure a man assaulting a little boy in the men's room is as bad of a crime as a man assaulting a little girl in the women's room.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Handground Anaristos: 'how many people get assaulted in a Starbuck's bathroom? I don't have the statistics handy.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it is as bad...it isn't as considered or as traditionally likely...' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'why not?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'hetero perviness is more common' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'child molestors are predominantly male but don't always target women.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '"don't always" is not the same as "as likely"' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I'm not going to look up the statistics but I'd imagine it's a lot closer than you're making it seem' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'funny how some of the bathroom laws would now force guys with penises and beards to use dfemale restrooms' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'so, ultimately, transgender people MUST be discriminated against in order to put an imaginary barrier in front of sexual predators?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'not generally...' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Handground Anaristos: 'from what I see in moves (since I don't frequent women's bathroom) going to a public bathroom is a social occasion for women.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Handground Anaristos: 'movies*' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I've used women's rooms before and I managed to not rape anybody.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'what discrimination?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'if you don't see it as discrimination it's not worth discussing' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'people used to believe that having a bathroom for whites and a bathroom for "coloreds" was non-discriminatory' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'good thing we're not telling them to use the trans bathroom then...' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we're not referring to "separate but equal"' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we're referring to "using the bathroom appropriate for your body parts"' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'who checks the body parts?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'TSA }:>' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '"I believe you are using the wrong bathroom. Get naked so we can see if you're committing a crime" seems like an unreasonable search.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I'd volunteer to do the search, but I'd prolly be disappointed too often :P' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): New'97Wing Abelinc breaks out his "FBI" mug T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'what's ironic is, with the discriminatory law, and with trans people following the law, you will have trans men with facial hair that look exactly like a cis man going in to the women's room' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'please stop using the term "trans"...it has no meaning :-)' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'maybe not to bigots :p' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no, it has no meaning to anyone familiar with the community...' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'TS is not TV is not a particular TG' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'trans is not defined because it encompasses a very wide variety of situations' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'transsexual is an outdated term not used much any more and transvestite usually refers to a cis person who dresses up as, but doesn't identify as, the other gender.' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'transsexual is not an outdated term, it is a particular term which is defined (with sub-terms depending on pre-mid-postop)...one which is used because TG has no usable definition' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'last word and I'm out: if we're keeping the discriminatory laws, you get to see this man with a vagina walk into the bathroom behind your daughter: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2016/03/jpsheffield.jpg' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'so you know how you are not supposed to wear the band shirt at the bands show?' T3/r7/2016-05-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'What does it mean if Ted Nugent wears his own shirt, at his own concert?' T3/r7/2016-05-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Trump is going to fix the drought in California by "turning on the water." day by day he's becoming Immortan Joe. that is all.' T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'I fully agree with that Tzadkiel. You vote with your wallet.' T3/r7/2016-05-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Either you vote for Walmart, or you vote for the local grocery store (and maybe pay $10 more total per trip).' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'desalinization plants, to produce agricultural and drinkable (potable) watar, require a lot of energy to run the desalinisation process - lots of solar panels and a sunny sun' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'There are efforts underway to produce micro-desalinization units, almost cost free' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"turning on the water" is also an expression for "turning on the tears" (weeping, crying) (crocodile style if a politician or celebrity)' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and the Oscar for "turning on the water" goes to ...' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'speaking of entertaining movies ...' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Whipped" [2000] 82m09s (Amanda Peet, brian van holt, jonathan abrahams, zorie barber, judah domke, written directed produced by peter m Cohen), an educational hilarious comedy, (coarse language, wannabe x-rated: lots of implied sex, but in retrospect where was the nudity.. none?!?) (no sadomasochism). Excellent educational movie. ' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'is amanda peet the actress that dies young' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'died' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'googled it, guess not' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'and in debating, why was the Revenant nominated as a best movie? Were the choices that few? I watched it last night, I didn't think it was all that.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Amanda Peet b:1972Jan11 (age:44), actress playwright, spouse David Benioff (m:2006), children 3 (as of a 2015June offline file)' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I was thinking brittany murphy... why? because I'm not up on pop culture' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the movie "Revenant" may be all title and implication but no substance, except in the bored wearied impressions of the reviewers ' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'also seeing a movie on BRD (with subtitles, and where replay is possible) is vastly more enjoyable than seeing the movie on tv where important information flits by, unnoticed and lost to the tv viewer' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'when viewing the movie "Whipped" (with excellent subtitles, including subtitled lyrics to most of the songs) replaying sections provided intense full detail' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'Sounds like something from Ameican Psycho' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'so maybe you didn't enjoy "Revenant" because you didn't actually view all off the movie (missed details due to bad sound, bad photography)' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'those reviewers are likely viewing the movies with top-of-the-line playback equipment' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'you sure it wasn't just a refilming of the same boring plot line?' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'so the scenery was pretty the story was still predictable' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dacarus: 'Master.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'with refilms of a prior plotlines, Eyecandy!, sharp excellent photography, clear crisp sound, is required.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'but some directors mistakenly believe that shafting the audience is how to film a movie' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the writers producers directors didn't "kill their darlings", at least not enough of them' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'very few movies are rewatchable more than once, but recently i've found a few movies that are enjoyable when when viewed again.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i've watched the 1st half of scary movie 4 for 30 times.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'makes me sleep ' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'usually require to wait several months between viewings, even when the movie is excellent' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'is that the charlie sheen sex tapes scary movie?' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and very few movies are excellent. gross defects in plot, storyline, photogrqaphy, audio, casting, ruin movies.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'watching defective movies is like "work" - ycch' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'in order to watch an obviously crappy movie, require to get in the mood, to look at the reviews, to criticise the anticipated movie defects, and then viewing the movie is not a great a disappointment. "You know the movie is going to be crap, and that is what you get, maybe." "And just maybe the movie is entertaining after all."' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the audience here (me) doesn't like bleh surprises, but if one knows exactly where the movie is going to be bleh ...' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'from the blurb of the dvd "Whipped" a comedy that leaves marks :' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'A group of college buddies meet every Sunday at their local diner to discuss their favorite sport - scoring with women! Their conversations - always revealing, sometimes revolting and occasionally riotous - revolve around the weekend past and the girls they were able or unable to "scam".' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"However, when all three single guys unknowingly go after the same "perfect" woman, Mia (Amanda Peet), they begin to question their skirt-chasing ways. As the guys compete for Mia's attention, the fate of the ritual, and their friendship, becomes uncertain. Who will win the morning roundtable bragging rights? You'll be surprised!' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '(fullframe seemingly 16x9) ' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if one knows exactly where and why the movie is going to be bleh, then one may adjust the internal attitudes so the movie becomes viewable, maybe.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'and with a dvd or brd, if the viewing becomes too bleh, may defer further watching, and return later to watch snippets at other viewing sessions.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Brittany Murphy (d:2009Dec20) and later her husband Simon Monjack (d:2010May23) were each fatally incapacitated under suspicious circumstances at the same residence. The contributary cause of death in both cases was pneumonia, and maybe something else.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'since the Coroner's Office did not want to hand over hair samples of Brittany to Brittany's father for independent testing, this indicates a coverup by some California authorities.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'perhaps the "authorities" suspected poisoning from industrial activity, and preferred to obfuscate and coverup the actual cause of illness and eventual death' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '(hydraulic oil fracking, heavy-metal air-pollution from hashish distillation, shoddy housing-construction practices, dangerous movie-making chemicals, dangerous ineffective legal pharmaceuticals (insert other theories here), )' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Brittany's mother was residing at the same residence (the last three and a half years of Brittany's life.)' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'if Brittany's mother was not stricken with illness while residing there, ...' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'some of the blurbs on DVD boxes are wryly amusing reading.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'from "Juncture" : What if you only had three months to live? For Anna Carter, it's a nightmare come true. Diagnosed with a terminal illness, Anna's high flying lifestyle has come crashing down.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Now seeing the world through different eyes and a colder heart, Anna, dispensing her style of brutal retribution, embarks on a personal quest to hunt down various miscreants who have slipped through cracks in the justice system.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'But with the police closing in - and death knocking at her door - will she be able to complete her plan before time runs out? Only death will stop her.' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Juncture : "Forgive me father, for THEY have SINNED."' T3/r7/2016-05-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Hilarious.' T3/r7/2016-05-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PugofCrydee: 'I like socialism' T3/r7/2016-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Trump supported by CIA,Hillary supported by Pentagon,but who is a shadow supporter of Romney ?' T3/r7/2016-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Illuminati?' T3/r7/2016-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'No,seriously,which conservative party behind Romney ?' T3/r7/2016-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And does american civvies so scared,to vote Trump - en-masse ?' T3/r7/2016-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Moderate Republicans likely like romney' T3/r7/2016-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '"have a nice day" as "fuck you". where did that come from?' T3/r7/2016-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Southern belles.' T3/r7/2016-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'should the developers of websites that make you click 300 times to get to the next picture in the series because they feel the need to change one word in the caption be shot?' T3/r7/2016-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'how is this even a question? yes, developers of websites should be shot.' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'which age is better to ruin one's life with meth - 60 or 70?' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you dont have to choose. also, fallacy of the excluded middle.' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'at 70, not much matters anymore. at 60, the real significant life has ended but some energy remained. so.. its very tricky' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'i reiterate: false dichotomy.' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'theres never a bad time for methpocalypse.' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I would think that most 70 year olds would say that things still matter, maybe 25 year old would say things don't matter at 70.' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'no. 25-yearold says things dont matter. 70-yearold just grumbles randomly' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'given current life expectancy on average I'd have to say 70 .. cause on average you'll not see 80 anyway ' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: '30 year olds can grumble randomly' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'todlers grumble randomly too ' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'indeed, possibly the *best* time to pick up a meth habit?' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'you can give meth to toddler and find out' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'I thought you were trying to select the best time in your life to have a crushing meth habit' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'yeah. back on topic..' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'I suggest now as the optimium time for it! If your going to start doing hardcore drugs then why wait?' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'id say starting at 60, you'd still end up saying "what have i done". at 70, who gives a crap?' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'one could always choose to never start a habit like that :)' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean.. when starting at 70 and end up ruining your porch or something' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I thinks its calle dexyanphetamine and yup can ber prescribed to todlers .. what a strange and interesting world we live in :P' T3/r7/2016-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'tbh meth is just bloody annoying .. pick heroin everytime ' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How goes pre-election campaign goes at states ?' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Let's discuss something' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'Someone once asked me to explain how rainbows work. I got it right, but maybe you'd have fun giving that a try.' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '... ?!?' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Let's not be carried by somebody fantasies,and discuss politics' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'ok, what about the politics of how rainbows work?' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How the campaign goes in USA ?' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I heard that Donald Trump wants to build a wall to keep all the rainbows out.' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How scores goes on Hillary or Sanders ?' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'sanders was never going to win, because the system doesn't support him' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'popular mandate or not, I don't foresee the election of a president that doesn't have backing by established powers' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How goes civilian support divided on those three ?' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'I heard Trump is secretly supported by CIA,while Hillary have support from Pentagon crowd' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Is it close to truth ?' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'So if Trump will be president,CIA got upper hand over Congress,with dire consequences.If Hillary wins,military get support more,but it means less covert actions and dirty tricks.Sanders is a quite shadowy person,seems like limited edition of communistic socialistic democrate.' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'So,how does opinion polls divide amongst those three ???' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'CIA support and deals with KGB only if it is need to gain own weight,not more.' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'So goes same to the question on foreign mafia hidden CIA support.' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'When they get unnecessary,they will be.....neutralised' T3/r7/2016-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Outlaw thieves should always remember - there is always someone smarter than them. And mafia,surprisingly,had a nationalities,too !' T3/r7/2016-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'if you had the choice between terminating pregnancy at 29 weeks or having a baby with total certainty of severe handicap... like bed ridden handicap wnd no mental faculty, what would u do ' T3/r7/2016-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'friend of mine has 5his moral dilemma' T3/r7/2016-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'terminate' T3/r7/2016-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'i told him i would always be there to listen but i cant answer for myself' T3/r7/2016-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'he says he knows if one of his healthy kids became that way he would still love them... but an unborn baby feels different... i can see where hes coming from' T3/r7/2016-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'want cold hard .. thats me .. and thats my opinion' T3/r7/2016-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'does the time mayter? 29 weeks is basically alive... hospitals would save that baby if delivered' T3/r7/2016-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'he would have to go out of state, only legal in a few places... poor guy breaks my heart, hes the best dad' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'we can do the "life begins XX" dance but quality of life ? severity of handicap .. same argument for sucide euthanasia war etc etc ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'boy it makes my problems feel small, ill tell 7 that' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'u' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I don't buy the " ppl are starving so eat up " line ..' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'i think i would terminate, but im not sure at what point the answer changes' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'all those questins have been well thrashed out .. ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'such an awful scenario, like being able to save only one child and have to pick, except this one is real life' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'im unloading here bc there is nobody i can talk to about it irl except him' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'is nice to have a real topic on here ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'what would you do for yourself ? I know that when my time is over I'll not extend it beyond a point where I am no longer sentient .. I think thats my cut off point ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'i think terminate, mainly bc im not sure i would love an unborn person, so the guilt might he bearable, but it does seem like taking a life.. the docs say baby would be a certain way, but docs can be wrong...' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I can see how "out of sight out of mind" works ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'yea... does time dull all pain, or do some pains break u forever?' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I've been reading alot on druidic culture atm and well .. what would nature say ? cause nature is the last word .. ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'nothing breaks you .. just makes it harder to get back ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'who speaks for nature...? no baby survives without a parent, whether 40 weeks or 29 weeks' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'nature speaks for herself .. ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'the body didnt reject the pregnancy earlier, i guess that might be nature speaking?' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'some embryos never make it bc things go too wrong and woman miscarries, but not here... ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'do you think human civilazation is with above nature ? that we are ass a society now Over nature given science .. or are we peverting it ? .. this is the kind of thing I'm comming up against in my reading atm ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'I want to think wolf pack living but then what of art or philosophy ? none are needed but given free time thats what we made ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'i think men shape what they can and seek to master nature, yea. thats mans nature itself' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'without getting into esoteric views there is only one nature it is maths ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'and then we have a hurricane/tsunami/volcanic eruption that shows us that we are but insects when up against nature' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'yes but math includes randomness' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'averages over time ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'men are insects in a lions den, yet still are masters of lions ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'actually just in the US number of hurricanes hitting land is down huge' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'imate improvement, not change!' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Patiently, Anaristos: 'hard to miss a landmass that size...' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Patiently, Anaristos: 'the Carebean islands get hit worse' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'then while that nature is immutable and we are .. to concentrate on the world as experienced ? and to the question at hand terminate because after all you have to play the odds when given the chance ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'are the carebeat islands safe ? I heard they were close ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'going to bed... he is going to decide by friday... well he and his wife but she basically gave him the choice ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion peers intently at Snowangel Tzadkiel. T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Aphel ? ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'oh, nothing :)' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'yeah I'm going to be terminated .. guess I'll join ISIS' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'uh oh, lasher might reportuto the feds now' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'pretty sure I was flagged years ago ' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'on the other hand, claims that one is a member of a group does not make one a member.' T3/r7/2016-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'apparelty Tim McV has rudyard kiplings poem If as hs last words ' T3/r7/2016-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'what is the opposite of "racist"?' T3/r7/2016-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i think that Kylo Ren become bad because Han and Leia had angry sex at some point' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I thought Trump was going to run with only his own money, that he was rich, and he couldn't be bought..... now he is whining that the GOP isn't doing what they can to support him.' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'his party should support him because their constituent members want him' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jakke: 'Trump sucks, but the GOP IS shitting on him' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'but initially TRUMP didn't want outside money' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'or half of them should fuck off and schism into a new party' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jakke: 'I think it's less the money then the infrastructure' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'this has all but fractured the gop party anyhow' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'however you feel about trump, it's asinine for the party to say "he won all of our elections by a mile, but..."' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I'm mixed on that...' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'but that party does need to wake up, if anything trump has done that.' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I don't see anything to be mixed about. Are they going to support a candidate that they know for a fact fewer of their constituents will get out and vote for?' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'they had elections' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'the elections weren't even rigged' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'the last thing the US needs is to drop to a 1 party system' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'primaries are an odd sport' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'we have a terrifying history of riggable and rigged elections if you actually go and read reports about ballot machines, but that didn't even happen here. the voting republicans just really want trump to win. So, like, you want to say the party should back a person who isn't favored by a margin of like double digit percentage points?' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'which other candidate even comes close to him in numbers?' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'none' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'so if the party wants to stand on their other jackass principles and disavow him, they have to also admit that all those people who voted for trump aren't members of their party' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'this is such a toxic election... all the way around' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I mean, that'd be cool too. But then they have 15% GOP, 35% Trump against 50% Democrats.' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'maybe the members of the GOP can't with a clean concious back him.' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'they don't have one of those anyway' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'so what's the problem' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'relatively speaking' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I kinda want Trump to win in the end' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'considering the candidates that get backed by both parties, I suspect there is a certain shortage of fine-tuned conscience' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I don't buy all the doom and gloom shit. It might finally get congress to do their jobs.' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I think a trump presidency would be fun for about a week' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'right up until he used all his best words to give us his best state of the union, he has very good states of union... the best states of union' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I hear it's ok to blame your predecessor during the first 7 years or so' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'true' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Thanks Obama!' T3/r7/2016-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'You're welcome Ontuct.' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: '.. anyone here ? ' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'no, I'm at work' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'yeah. must admit. star wars ep VI would never ever gone well in 21th. its a shitty movie' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i admit to an earlier comment. weeks ago' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its the shitties of shitty b movie' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drin: 'I can't say I agree with you.' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'did you miss the pillow-puppets? the elephant?' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'it was a character there' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drin: 'I'm trying to remember the elephant, but I don't.' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'max rebo' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the band at jabba's place' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_XiH5J61oc' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there was no effort to make it look alive' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drin: 'Those puppets look more real to me than most of the CGI graphics animals I've seen.' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drin: 'I remember him now.' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, at least link to the movie and not to a lego figurine' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttV_PMNSYC8' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttV_PMNSYC8' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the whole thing is a mess. whos the audience? 15-yearolds? 40? who still live in some basement when their moms and dads are already passed away? its hard' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you are asking about the target audience for lego?' T3/r7/2016-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I didn't think it was a mystery :)' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'I didn't even know this channel existed. ' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'Cool its in written in blood too' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jakke: 'Yes, you did know.' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'Thats debatable' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica proposes a tuna fish sandwich with potato chips and a pickle T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'What's a seven letter word containing thousands of letters?' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'brexit' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Paedrid 0 T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: '>:)' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drin: 'mailbox?' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'Yea! Cool thanks... someone posted a riddle and I needed an answer' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drin: 'or mailbag' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'or postbox' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'postage?' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'man this riddle sucks' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'should only have 1 answer >:(' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Paedrid: 'The more you take, the more you leave behind. What am I?' T3/r7/2016-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'you sir, are a dump. next question?' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Is Aardwolf going to leave the EU? How will that affect item prices and general travel? Will we need visas to go to other areas? ' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'More seriously, wow. UK. Leaving the EU. Didn't think that would happen.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'neither, it would appear did the idiot who called the vote' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Yes, that was a tactical error, considering he was pro-EU.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'not that you could tell that from any of his speeches for the last 10 years' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Even sadder...there was a surge in google lookups on "What is the EU" from the UK after the result was announced.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'still, he's resigned, now, with a cushy pension for life, so that's alright, he's taken responsbility.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'He's a politician, pandering to the anti-EU groups enough to retain votes. Pokliticians. Lawyers. Thieves. What can you expect?\' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Now...another referendum in Scotland is likely.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I expected to retain the rights that I have had since adulthood, and which many of my fellow citizens have decided to take from me' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Well, yes. That would be nice. But the UK is a democracy, not a republic. It has certain drawbacks.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'that's an obscure distinction which makes little sense in this case' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Although the UK was one of the few countries that paid in more than they got back from the EU. So. Perhaps some cost savings, there. Unless you want to trade that off against everything they lose. I wouldn't.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'A republic can have a constitution that protects certain rights even against a majority vote.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'You were lamenting the loss of some of yours?' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'given that our economy has already tanked, and we've are going to spend 250bn on propping up GBP the costs of the EU sort of pale into comparison' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yes -- I loose my right to move freely and work in 27 countries by default. So, now I am going to have citizenship of another country to maintain it.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Well, on the flip side, you gain more control over your borders.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xiweida: 'nothing controls incoming immigration like becoming a less valuable place to live' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'hardly that -- we've had control over many of our borders for decades, and had an open policy for entrance.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'Xiweida: yep, it's true -- "let's stop all the immigration by tanking our economy".' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Hmmm...the UK can still negotiate citizen work rights before EU departure. They may choose to try to maintain what you have in that area.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'that's daft -- why would the (remains of) the EU give us that?' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'there has to be a punishment... you can't just say I want everything I have except border policy...' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'The UK had very generous public benefits available to all. Cutting those to the same levels as the rest of Europe would make it a less desirable place to migrate to. ' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'The rest of EU have citizens that work in the UK, also.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'people migrated here to work, not claim benefits. Free movement does not entitle you to move to gain benefits.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yep, and many of them are thinking of leaving as well' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'I'm not aguing that migrants do not want to work (of course they do). I'm simply saying Britain has a generous benefits policy that other EU countries do not.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'first, our benefits system is not out of line wrt to other EU countries, and second, "free movement" is not as free as you might think. You do not get residency if you do not have the ability to maintain yourself. So, you don't get the benefits.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Well, the PM made a point of trying to work out a 'deal' with the rest of the EU that gave the UK 'special' rights. A major feature of this deal was being able to restrict benefits. ' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Ultimately, it wasn't enough - obviously. But it was a recognized issue.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'The UK needs to join the USA and create a Federal trans-Atlantic group. That would boost their negotiating powers (yes, I'm joking here).' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I wish I had a good solution to the situation. Best I have come up with so far is to divide the UK up into strips 1km wide, running north to south, then have half in the EU, half out.' T3/r7/2016-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Just call an early general election and vote for the party that promises to keep Britain the the EU. Now that Brits have researched what it was that they voted on, they might actually make the right decision this time. :-)' T3/r7/2016-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'This point about comparing the growth rates of continents bothers me, though, it's evocative but kind of hollow in the end. What does it mean to say that the only continent with slower growth than the EU is Antarctica?' T3/r7/2016-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Don't developed economies grow slower than developing ones in general?' T3/r7/2016-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Hipsters breed the least, and there are far far fewer of them in Asia, and Africa.' T3/r7/2016-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I mean, it's easier to improve 10% of 600M than 5% of 2.3B... just random figures' T3/r7/2016-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Improve, as in remove hipsters?' T3/r7/2016-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'fyi from the other week my friend went to new mexico and t3rminated' T3/r7/2016-07-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'and, hes a wreck' T3/r7/2016-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Lili says 'Welcome to Aardwolf,' in a friendly way. T3/r7/2016-07-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Chimamatl Lili Teoyaomqui just joined Xunti. Wonder who she was before.. T3/r7/2016-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Juanito: '"Hillary Clinton was not put under oath and there is no transcript of her interview with the FBI, Director James Comey told Congress on Thursday."' T3/r7/2016-07-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Juanito: 'USA! USA!' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: '"The Daily Show with Trevor Noah" (2016G07) and "Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore" (2016G07) were slightly entertaining yesterday & today ' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'G=July (yyyymdd - condensed sortable month: A=January, B=February, ..., K=November L=December)' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'the Comedy Central cable-channels are slightly different to when "Jon Stewart" and "Stephen Colbert" provided the "news"' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton - which is the better choice (or the least worst choice)' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Donald Trump is outspoken and speaks the ambivalent truth ' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Mitt Romney spoke like a weathervane in the 2012 election, - not the same though' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'Donald Trump looks as though slightly senile, as though walking in the footsteps of (senile) Ronald Reagan' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'unless Donald Trump was merely slightly tired when looking very slightly senile' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'if Hilary Clinton spoke like Donald Trump ---> experienced youth with outspoken rightwing redneck opinions' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is too much "leftwing erroneous political-correctness" in the Democratic platform' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zade: 'there is not enough "decent fairplay compassion for the nonrich majority" in the Republican platform' T3/r7/2016-07-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So ... my city is rumored to have a plan to redefine residential housing. They posted a public hearing notice, and I asked my Aldermen what is driving this. One has so far ignored me, the other told me she has no idea, that the common council has not been informed of a public hearing.' T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Trump... Rally... Hurt... Brain' T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Our system was rigged, too. Except for one thing. If you win by landslides every week, it's no longer rigged.' T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Why am I not surprised Zade likes Trump...' T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'The guy yells into the microphone about how Hillary yells into the microphone and is hard to listen to... geez.' T3/r7/2016-07-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'So the Sun has a shit ton of pictures of the Nice attack. Those motherfuckers.' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'hmm' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'coup in Turkey?' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'perhaps' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'looks like chaos in Turkey.' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'isn't there a 'day of rage' planned for American cities today?' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Not that I know about. I may not be aware.' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'day of rage by muslims?' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gallen: 'supposedly to protest police shootings' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'I don't know I see a lot about how the police and DoD are prepairing for this day, but nothing about an actual thing' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'anybody have any idea what the people leading the coup want?' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'the army is secularised and erdogans regime is not. I assume they do not like the religious path that erdogan is steering the country towards.' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'only assumptions from me' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'thank you ' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Might also have something to do with the AKP getting voted into the minority last year and Erdogen just calling a special election to get power back immediately.' T3/r7/2016-07-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'they just said on CNN that Erdogan's approval rate is only 48% and falling, the next president of the US can only dream of reaching 48%.' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if the universe is infinite and contains the same stuff same amount everywhere, will it start to repeat itself?' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the universe is finite.' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'No it's not.' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'anyones grasp of the universe is finite .. ergo "the universe" as anyone says it is finite ' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its possible to write down a number that is bigger than all the possible particle combos in our current bubble' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sure, the number of particles in the universe is finite.' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'but. will it start to repeat itself at some point IF it is infinite?' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I've seen estimates that the number of electrons in the universe is around 10^85. Don't quote me on that.' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: '95% of stats are pulled from the 1% of the person quoting em :P' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'while 10^85 is a big number, it's really not that big when you start getting into big numberness :)' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: '4^^3 = 4^256 is a bit bigger :)' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Doesn't matter. According to Elon Musk, we are all in a virtual reality.' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'Taeryn is Morpheus .. take the red pill ' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: '"virtual reality" is an oxymoron.' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'all reality is virtual ' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'by the time the brain has given the experience it has already gone through several filtering processes .. therefore it is not reality . only virtual ' T3/r7/2016-07-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Snowangel Tzadkiel: 'only the numbers cannt lie .. ' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i just saw "inception". cant understand why they had to choose to fuck up the ending' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'it was deliberately ambiguous' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Why not? :P' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when the thingy would have dropped, it would have been "good job, back to mudding" instead coming here' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Filtered reality is still reality. #lateretort' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'dunno how people see the world. i've only felt a few times that it's really real' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Spicy food helps.' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal :) T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'blade runner 2 - will it suck? think hard, cuz your answer gets logged' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'It doesn't matter, I probably won't get around to watching it.' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why?' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Lazy, and/or no time.' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'Blade Runner was a seminal sci-fi movie' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'it introduced important themes into the popular movie scene' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'now. that i agree very much, Vost. but those new movies got it wrong' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'since then, those themes have been "copied" (homage) repeatedly' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'so it is hard to see a sequel being as innovative' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'by the way, Blade Runner is my favourite movie ever' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I might get around to watching it at some point.' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'see, those accessories and weird things.. and weirdos - they all were there because they had a reason to be there. ' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'new scifi just puts those things as decorations' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'most modern sci-fi movies are action entertainment' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'Blade Runner explored important existential questions' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'as well as being a hard-boiled action detective story' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'yeah. but it has been explored soooo much after that' T3/r7/2016-07-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Vost nods at __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal. T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'okay here is a fun game, name the four candidates for President of the US as four characters from the same book/series. I'll start' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Lord Voldemort (Trump), Delores Umbridge (Clinton), Pomona Sprout (Stein), Severus Snape (Johnson).' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Erin (Trump) Annie (Clinton) Erwin (Stein) Mikasa (Johnson)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'From Attack on Titan.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'ahh cool don't know that series, will have to check with my ex.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'glad at least one person responded :)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Its also on netflix. :)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I thought it was an anime comic book series?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'It is.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Alzar: 'It's a manga and anime.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'But its also a anime tv series.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'gotcha' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I'll have to check it out :)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I just saw an article that responded to the voting for the lesser evil quip with okay so you are going to vote for Voldermort because you don't like Umbridge (or vice versa)?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and it just sort of clicked for me, because Stein is so Professor Sprout, brilliant in her field, and probably knows how to fix the planet, but I am not sure how good she would be at running the school much less the country, and Johnson is Snape, everyone hates him because he used to be a Death Eater, and he is cruel, but he is really the most noble of the entire lot.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and yes Republicans are Death Eaters :)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Metropolis gasps in astonishment. T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I like trump' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Trump is cool...' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and Democrats are the Ministry of Magic (as exemplified by Umbridge and Fudge)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'no he really isn't' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'he is a tool.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'He will make america great again!' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'he might actually' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Id bet my life on it.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'but I thought back in 2000 if the clown GWB got elected it would shock the country into getting more serious about their politicians, and that clearly didn't work.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'oh you are serious?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Mhm.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you actually think he would be good for the country? not good compared to Clinton, but good compared to anyone?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I do.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emm comforts Metropolis. T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I feel so bad for you right now.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Who else to lead our country? Clinton?!' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you have read the harry potter series right?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I think my assignments give a pretty clear indication of who I think should lead the country' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and it definitely isn't Delores Umbridge' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'All hail lord voldy!' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Severus Snape for President!' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Voldemort probably would make the country great again, for purebloods.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Meh. Includes me.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Jk!' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'that makes you a Death Eater :)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'enjoy watching the world burn.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I think trump is going to be great. And it doesnt matter who you think is good. Trump is going to win anyways. :)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I mean, really as long as you are okay with voting for Voldemort, more power to you.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I trust Nate Silver to predict these things, so far he is saying 20% chance, 25% at best.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'it might be more impressive if this was based on proposed policies, rather than fiction' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Silver, of course, correctly predicted that Trump would win the primaries..' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I think the analogies actually hold up pretty well Tinada :)' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'You don't need to make my point for me, really.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'no one predicted Trump would win the primaries' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I did.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'just like no one predicted the 2008 financial crisis' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'actually no a bunch of people predicted that' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada grins evilly. T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'same for Trump' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I know at least 10 fairly well respected economists who had been screaming about it for a few years.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I literally am incapable of understanding why anyone would want Trump to be President, except in comparison to Clinton.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I mean really it just doesn't make any sense to me.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and I have had a few people try to explain it to me' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'do you think he isn't releasing his taxes because he doesn't want people to get jealous of how much money he makes?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I think hes going to be a great president.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'He is probably embarrassed that he doesn't have it all organized like a giant slush fund in the form of a foundation..' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Clinton lovers...' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I hate Clinton' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'At this point its only Clinton Or Trump. PICK ONEE.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I don't hate Trump, I just think he is a baffoon.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Nobody else really has a chance :P' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'False' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and irrelevant' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Really?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'I digress.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I don't see this issue with giving out tax information. Hardly anyone voluntarily pays more taxes than they need to, so all it shows is what your sources of income are, and whether you are competent at dealing with the system.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Of course, approximately 0% of journalists and normal people understand this or have significant knowledge of the tax system' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Its a federal offense. She should be jailed for it!' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the tax information thing is every presidential canidate since Nixon has released them' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Mischan.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'in Trumps case I am pretty sure it would show that he is an enormous liar' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'But clinton is gonne be jailed. Or if she is elected, impeached.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'because he is not really worth anywhere near 10 billion dollars.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'You cant show that. Its not true.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Only thing i think he lied about is being a christian.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm just saying there's no real point. You can release tax information back to the days of the early mesopotamian empires and people still won't have much of a clue as to what the numbers mean.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'the point is that it lets the experts see where the candidate makes their money from' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Metropolis wishes everyone a good night, or just mistyped "note" again. T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Is the taxable wealth based on an equity-adjusted valuation of privately held real estate?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'If not, it won't tell you much about someone's wealth.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'in Hillary's case it showed that she makes a lot of money from Wall Street giving speeches.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'you clearly haven't dealt with very many wealthy peoples tax return information' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Night yall.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'later.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Given that Trump's wealth is in the form of shares in corporations, and that the tax and accounting info for the corporations is known, what more will you learn from his personal returns?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada reads Metropolis a story and tucks her into bed with a kiss. T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I have a law degree, with specialization in tax law.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'actually only publicly held corporations have to file public records' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Ditto.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'IU Class of 2010.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): *Yay!* Go Emm!!! Tinada cheers her on. T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'anyway, Trump might win, I don't think it will be the end of the Republic, Clinton probably will win, and I don't think that will be the end of the Republic either.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I honestly don't care which of them wins because they are both horrible canidates' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'my vote is important to me because it is one small way I can tell the powers that be that their picks for this job absolutely suck.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I really do hate Clinton, but its for personal reasons, not really relevant to her likely behavior as President' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'she basically caused the death of a good friend of mine.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'and if the rumors I heard about Trump basically trying to farm off most of the job of actually governing to his VP pick, then I think he probably will do less damage to the country than Clinton.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'because Pence is a terrible human being, but he has a good head on his shoulders when it comes to economics.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'There are three major issues to deal with in current (western) politics: The environment, demograpics and the economic system.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'In this, as in most previous elections, major party candidates don't offer you much of a choice on the first issue. On the second, there is, for once, a major difference, unless you believe that one or both of the candidates is lying. ' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'On the third, there didn't seem to be much difference, but recently Trump has been moving toward more protectionism and restrictions on financial institutions. So, if you assume that the candidates, once elected, do what they say they will do, the likely difference in outcomes is rather larger than usual.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada comforts Emm. T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'I disagree with your issues, or at least I think I do since I have no clue what "demographic" issues are.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'as for them lying, my baysian prior for that is 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'for both' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'honestly I don't think that anything either of them has SAID tells us the least bit about what they are likely to do.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'Clinton has shown that she will say anything to get elected, and Trump has shown that he will just say anything.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'https://www.theodysseyonline.com/voting-third-party-not-wasted-vote' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'that is all.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emm: 'good night.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'ding* It's the LORD Noah' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'riiight' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Am I on Candid Camera?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'These things can only happen once in a lifetime' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Any chance that Sanders fights for a floor vote considering that the DNC leadership was colluding against him the entire primary season?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'no' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'he's going to let them sink themselves' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Think he's planning on 2020?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He should once the Clinton Cash documentary is watched.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I doubt it, he's kinda old for 2020' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'but the damage is bad' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and if wikileaks dumps more today or tomorrow.. oooh boy' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Between the documentary dropped today and wikileaks the other day, Democrats are going to be hard pressed to gain any sort of momentum forward.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Think anyone other than Republicans are watching that documentary?' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'It was obvious to anyone who liked Bernie, the deck was stacked against him by the DNC from day 1 with the superdelegates, this is just the proof' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'that's why i wonder if he stages a floor rebellion considering that once the delegates are unbound him and hillary start at only a 200 vote gap.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Not sure who all is watching it. I did, but I'm not a Republican. It is up to 17.5k views so far.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'Michael Moore thinks Trump is going to win' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'because Bernie fans are pissed at Clinton' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and the DNC' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and this confirmation just seals the coffin' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'lots of Bernie people will not be voting at all' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Moore is an idiot tho... he is a relic at this point' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'Moore is also trying to light a fire under Dems, because he knows that Clinton is in trouble' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and he doesn't even like Clinton' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I think the fear of trump will unite the dems enough to pull it off' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I personally don't think I can bear to vote for either of them, they are both godawful' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'too late for Dems to unite' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'at this point Hillary can only hope that there is no more bad stuff' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'but with more to come from wikileaks, that's not likely' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Trump hasn't even starting talking trash about her.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Gary Johnson is doing well within Nevada. Granted, it is only one state, but it is enough to get attention to him. Jill Stien is gaining popularity within former Bernie followers. It isn't over, but it is getting more convoluted.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'the debates are going to be exciting' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'they each have so much ammo' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'it's going to be a dumpster fire' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'with bodies? those are the best.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'it'll be interesting to see how well Hillary maintains her composure' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'because ultimately Trump isn't afraid of getting dirty, or taking low blows' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'her best strategy is to play the victim card if he targets her' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: '"women are always under attack"' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The real fun will come because of the electoral college and if one of the candidates doesn't get enough electoral votes, then the House of Representatives makes the call and votes be damned.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I don't see that happening, but it would be exciting to watch' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I think there is a decent chance it could. Certainly not a guarantee.' T3/r7/2016-07-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Well considering that so many people are pissed, and so many people might go 3rd, congress might end up just voting however it wants without any regard.' T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Whats more important about a person? Their hair or their clothes?' T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Whats more important about a person? Their hair or their clothes?' T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Clothes are easier to change.' T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Heh. True.' T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Metropolis: 'Fire, water, or grass?' T3/r7/2016-07-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'omg they are still going on about this equal pay for equal work bullshit.. women actually make MORE in a lot of fields these days due to getting promoted..stop quoting a fucking study that took all men and all women regardless of title. I mean a stock boy doesn't avarage $1000/hour because the CEO is tied into him!!!! /rage' T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arnica: 'By god can we not learn? Not dump Trump, not no to Trump. Absolutely no way in hell Trump! You want this again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts' T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Maybe yes to no?' T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Arnica pastes his truck with Yes to No! stickers T3/r7/2016-07-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'You know when someone tells you everyone is racist and has implicit bias, and you're a dick and send them one of those no one is born racist, it's learned memes to be fucking wanker ... yeah I just did that, I feel so awesomely righteous right now.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'anybody noticed how china's president can say to taiwans president, 'blood is thicker than politics' but if a white european leader said that he would be labelled adolf hitler? though the western news praises this peaceful gesture by china..' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i notice things like that, they're hypocritical, racism is ok so long as you're not white' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'maybe donald trump will make politics make sense again? a good asshole is better than a bad actor' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'dumping this on debate to keep it off imm: Trump calling on Russia to hack Hillary's e-mails. has any major political candidate ever openly called for a foreign power to attack a political opponent to improve his chances of being elected? this shit is silly.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Openly? I don't think it has.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'probably because it's already in the public that russhar has hacked hillary's emails trump mentioned it, i doubt some covert double agent would be running for president while openly asking for the assistance of a foreign intelligence agency' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'nobody's saying he's a double agent, though I'd bet those tax returns would show some debt involving Russia.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'the amount of donations saudi arabia has given to obama and other political people is no different, except they don't mention them' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that's a GOP conspiracy theory.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'this narrative is important to distract from the fact that Hillary thought she was above the law' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and the DNC does shady stuff' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'various Middle Eastern countries donated to the Clinton charity prior to her becoming SoS' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'none of that matters though:: RUSSIA!!!!' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Foreign entities aren't allowed to give money to campaigns. They can give them to foundations of said candidates.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'not while they work for the federal government' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Please provide evidence that Hillary Clinton is not above the law..' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada grins evilly. T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'They certainly can if the person who is in the employ of the government hands over control for that duration.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm wondering though. Let's say you're Putin/Russia. Why would you have your hackers leave so obvious signs of being Russian?' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'who says they did it on purpose? it was attributed to "Guccifer 2.0"' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm going to assume that hackers paid by intelligence services get 2 hours of intelligence etiquette, including the part where it's best not to be discovered.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'so maybe they are smart enough to use whatever funny tricks there are to look French instead.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I can accept that it's not 100% certain that Russia was behind the DNC hack. but I'd say that's the most likely culprit.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'Yuri Bezmenov's interview on youtube is my favourite about what it's like to work for the KGB/etc, i noticed that Pierre Trudeau's son was named by the Ambassador of Russia to Canada..' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I don't care who released the emails.. I'm glad we got to see what really happens in the background' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'this Russia narrative is important, so that the media can focus on it if Hillary's emails show up' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'we know that Trump gets money from Russia/China because he can't get funding from US banks any more and is the first modern presidential candidate to not release his tax returns. he's claimed multiple times to have met and spoken with Putin and have a good relationship with him, but now denies that. but apparently that's no big deal.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the DNC e-mails didn't show any new information.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'nope, they just confirmed everything' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '"everything"?' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'everybody knew the DNC was shady' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'you said they didn't show any new information. you're right, they confirmed everything that was already known. that's what I meant by "everything"' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that the DNC preferred Hillary to Bernie? I don't get why that's earthshattering information.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'According to Forbes, most of Trump's investments are (1) in central locations and (2) have rather low debt levels, so why wouldn't any and all banks be happy to lend to his corporations?' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i think political dynasties are all suspicious (:, kennedy's, trudeau's, roosevelt's, bush's, clinton's, all pretty odd' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'this is slowly turning into a clusterfuck, so final point: Hillary's corruption is being vastly overstated and Trump's is being vastly understated. non-profit with Clinton's name received a donation from Saudi Arabia over a decade ago? she's an agent of the Muslim brotherhood! Trump calls on Russia to cyber attack a US politician? yeah! let's see those e-mails! woo go Russia!' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'if you live in a democracy with a pool of 320 million equal opportunity individuals, what are the odds that dear leader will be the direct relative of the last dear leader?' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'the ideal outcome here is for Hillary to win, then lose to a democratic primary challenger in 2020.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'unless you hate Muslims and immigrants more than you like your 401k. then by all means vote Trump. peace.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Slowly is not the word I would use. Perhaps about 6 months ago slowly would be apt, but now it seems to be careening out of control towards a non-lubricated clusterfuck.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'michael milken and neil bush is an interesting study (:, apparently under george bush sr. they scammed hundreds of millions of dollars out of american's in the 1980's' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'it never tarnished the political reputation of the bush family though, it seems nobody thinks much about it - where say, if you were to have a cousin who did that, you might as well retire from life' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'imo immigration , especially in europe , is out of control - and political correctness ferments rage within the public, who now sees trump as their only hope' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'it's not like people are dying because of immigrants.' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'in the gospel is written, be not like the hypocrites who pray in public to be seen of by others as praying, but pray in secret - so here's the gospel promoting people practice relgion on their own - all of the political decisions directed around people's religions is gotten out of hand' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'you'd almost think muslims were a race, but if you talk to somebody who hears angels that speak for a good they cannot see, you're pretty sure they're insane' T3/r7/2016-07-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'angels > science' T3/r7/2016-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2016-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I have some problems matching Sanders leaving the party again to his recent behaviour.' T3/r7/2016-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He did what now?' T3/r7/2016-07-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Sanders announced earlier today that he was leaving the party to become independent again' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'In your opinion, is this MUD Progressive (in the US sense of that term)? I believe that it is.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'anti-NATO Trump said that Putin/Russia wouldn't annex Crimea. whew. it's okay now guys.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'And you had doubts.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '2014 news?' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'nope. today.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'Trump had no idea that Russia annexed Crimea two years ago.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'If they renamed the area to Trumplandia he would have more of an interest.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '2/3 of the population was Russian, I'm sure I would have annexed it too.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I would argue that supporting annexation of Crimea is an objectively bad position for a presidential candidate to take, but that's not even the point. he had no idea Russia annexed part of Ukraine two years ago.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Someone should tell him what happened to the Berlin wall so as to not make the same mistake.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'on the former point: I'm sure there are parts of the US South that would vote overwhelmingly to become part of Mexico. would that make it okay for the Mexican military to come in and say, "this is ours now."?' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gashik: 'it was the people's choice' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Given current trends, it would be rather surprising if some sort of breakup of the US doesn't happen.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'but...again, that's a legitimate political debate where one can use facts and logic to support either side. that's fine. wanting to be the leader of the most powerful country and military on Earth and NOT KNOWING about major international events that happened super recently? bizarre.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I'm sure he can find some advisors to know those things' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I fully understand not wanting to vote for Clinton. I have no idea how someone would justify voting for Trump.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Preferably advisors who disagree with eachother..' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Method > supposed answers' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'that the mental gymnastics you use to justify it?' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I am Norwegian, so I don't vote in US elections.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Lucky you.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'good :p don't support right-wing demagogues there either though plz.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'eh..we need moderate nationalists to win all over the place' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Because the otherwise the next generation of nationalists will win, and they won't be moderate.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'see: history' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'how would you definte "moderate nationalist"? doesn't one have to be a "moderate nationalist" to be a politician/public servant in the first place?' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'That depends on which country we are talking about. In US politics, not so much.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I'm having a hard time picturing nationalism without xenophobia or jingoism' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'what's the issue with nationalism? this is your country and you disagree' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'i'm not proud of being here, that's an insult' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'nationalism in the US seems to mean thinking that everything the government or media says is a lie.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'also seems very closely related to white supremacy' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'in europe, it seems that the european union started to become the nation that great britain used to be, and nationalism is what separated them' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'trump's dislike of nato and the united nations might not be unfounded :)' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'I think people are emotional creatures prone to knee jerk reactions to specific situations. it doesn't matter that you're more likely to die by lightning than be killed in a terrorist attack, we need to start monitoring or banning religions. it doesn't matter that immigration improves our economy and our lives, immigrants are dangerous and scary and we need to send the military into people's homes to remove them.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'turkey sure causes europe alot of trouble through immigration policy's' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'people forget that the EU/UN was a direct response to WWI/WWII. most people alive now weren't alive when that happened and don't understand the consequence of blind nationalism.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'well...everything the media says is a lie? at least as a heuristic, that seems to work well enough' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'post-WWII, the developed world was split into communist and capitalist. the capitalists tore down walls, tore down trade barriers, and achieved economic prosperity. the communists built walls to keep everyone else out and collapsed in on themselves.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Most people have a hard time dealing with local ethnic fractionalization without distrust and all that distrust leads to. "Multiculturalism and peace" is not a more realistic option than "nationalism without in-group preferences".' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'now the republicans, formerly known as the party of the constitution and economy without government control, wants to tear up trade agreements and treaties over xenophobia and jingoism.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gashik: 'or helped them to collapse' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'we have multiculturalism and peace. people pretend we don't. anyway, I'm out.' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Yea !' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'breaking news !!!' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: '?' T3/r7/2016-07-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'good news i hope' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Public Policy Polling has Harambe at 5%' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Harambe being a dead gorilla. I wonder what that tells us about reported support for the legitimate independent candidates.' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'In another question, only 18% think Hillary Clinton has ties to Lucifer and 21% are uncertain.' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): But first, Juanito laughs out loud. T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'wow some canidate that isn't a protestant white male' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'terrorism. is it all bad?' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'in dictatorships anything is interpreted as terrorism, at the discretion of dear leader' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'so no, depending how biased ones judgement is, or if one is a dear leader' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'but the majority in the world today is pretty bad' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ppl are all crazy' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'the vast majority of people have some form of insanity' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'not some. everyone is crazed. every single one.' T3/r7/2016-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'me too' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'trump had the worst weekend i've ever seen..so of course when i turn on fox news tonigt its all circle jerking about hillary and email..' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'tefflon don' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'different people, different rules' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Surprised it wasn't about her campaign chairman.' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Does you find censorship in the INet is unappropriate ?' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Hey !!!' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'I am talking to you !' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram enjoys omnipresent silence,showing complete agreement to statements T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I think sites get to decide what they want to do' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But doesn't it goes against a "freedom of Internet" unofficial rules ?!' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Also,if everybody not noticed already,in the USA and other countries censorship presents too,with a quite strict rules' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'there is no such things as "freedom of internet" or unofficial internet rules' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'each country has their laws, that's all' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'It IS a rules - and those rules comes from Fido times' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'each site had own policy - what is wrong and what is right' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'does this censorship really regulated by social structures ???' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'NO ! the censorship (in most cases) is not regulated by socials,but by a political powers-in-command' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'thus the censorship is just another zombie-making tool,in most cases' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram impressed by the silence T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'What do you think about situation in Germany ? Refugees crisis ?' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Maybe there was advises 'bout a 'second attempt' of T4 to Merkel from conservative parties ?' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '(mumbling)such an eerie silence !' T3/r7/2016-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '-ahem- !' T3/r7/2016-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'What percentage of the US population will just abstain from voting out of dislike of both party candidates?' T3/r7/2016-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Captain Planet: 'so I've been collecting all these tps lately..' T3/r7/2016-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Captain Planet: 'I'm thinking of renaming all my weapons to (Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, and Heart)' T3/r7/2016-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You grin evilly. T3/r7/2016-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Andrew Basiago for president!' T3/r7/2016-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Trump has only illusions of anyone paying for anything.' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'how come americans don't really care that jordanian intelligence operatives steal cia weapon shipments and sell them on the black market? 'who watches the watchers' - star trek' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL: 'guess who sold em to jordanians :P' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL: 'we are sneaky that way' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-arms-idUSKCN0ZD01J' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL: 'if u take everything someone prints/says at face value, i pity u' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL: 'they were sold to arabs and arabs ran out of their own ppl to kill so they are peddling them further now' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'i don't, but trevayne by robert ludlum was a good book (:' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'i see, but it's still your taxes buying weapons to arm foreign terrorists being misappropriated ' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL: 'considering our entire economy is pretty much in it full capacity belongs to china, we do need some other creative ways to make cash' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL: 'selling weapons to lunatics is just... ' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL: 'well...' T3/r7/2016-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Par for the course.' T3/r7/2016-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Damn, sure wish I could send a fact checking duty to the media in RL.' T3/r7/2016-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '"probably never" - what would that mean if that "never" is infinite?' T3/r7/2016-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'is "never" infinite?' T3/r7/2016-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'or 0' T3/r7/2016-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'in terms of probability over any time scale' T3/r7/2016-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'so it means both at the same time' T3/r7/2016-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'we just solved quantum physics you and me' T3/r7/2016-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'excellent :)' T3/r7/2016-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) ElFeneri: 'I will alert the media' T3/r7/2016-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'is the UN doing enough to thwart human trafficking and exploitation in Nepal along with stimulating redevelopment, or did they kind of not notice about it ever since?' T3/r7/2016-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'pretty terrible, cartoonish issues make better news' T3/r7/2016-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: 'CEO of Breitbart HAHAHA' T3/r7/2016-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bishoujo Raded: '"How do I sell shit to the alt-right crowd while I still have their attention? The media is dishonest and corrupt! Now introducing: Trump News!" that is all.' T3/r7/2016-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Trump believes there is no drought, no global warming. I'd like to roast his fat ass on a stick over Cali' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/19/police-mom-leaves-her-children-age-8-and-9-alone/89018310/' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'wow - had the kids been told, and then obeyed the injunction, 'stay inside', they prolly would have been fine.' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'didn't read the article but 8 and 9 seems just a little too young to leave alone.' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'as long as you are very clear about what they should and should not set on fire, and they arent total morons, they should be able to handle themselves.' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'granted, those are moderately high standards...' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'seems like it should work out 98 or 99% of the time, but I think it is still just a touch young, at 10 and 11 probably no bid deal for most kids.' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when i was 8 i was exploring the swamps around my village' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I think by 9 I was digging fossils by the abandoned strip mine :)' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Trump's real estate company was sued in the 70's for discrimating against black people. Good thing he is running for president and not buying the Clippers.' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'which is worse - hunting black roses in Crynn or that last mob in Partroxis?' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Partroxis' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'roses.' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'at least with partroxis, a savvy player can put together tools to reduce maze-running to a mere annoyance.' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'but digging thru crynn is a non-stop aggro-fest.' T3/r7/2016-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'good point' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'this channel is x-rated? thats good' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tehngion & Tehngion: 'What Hirozan said about Star Wars is bullshit. Discuss.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hirozan seems to be spying on Tehngion & Tehngion, did Tehngion & Tehngion just sit on that random penis?!?! T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'what was it' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tehngion & Tehngion: 'I forget, but it was definitely bullshit.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hirozan: 'I was trolling Mael...' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Star Wars sucks? That is true.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'the star wars rifftrax are pretty amusing' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'he said all the star wars movies suck' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'that was the comment' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hirozan snickers softly. T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'we all know Star Trek is way beeter :)' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'if you are a hard sci fi person it is poor, it goes more for high fantasy ' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'better too' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hirozan: 'Would love to stay for this... but I have to sleep.. got a presentation to give tomorrow :P' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karrigan: 'Whatever helps you sleep at night, Gener.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tehngion & Tehngion: 'Apples and oranges I think' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Sleep when you're dead' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'one time a mexican friend of mine thought i might be offended by the word gringo' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'voyager was a good series, too bad they couldn't have created something as decent and kept it going' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'spoiler alert: i wasnt' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'its only offensive if you are, in fact, a gringo.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gener ) I actually like both Star Wars and Star Trek T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'enterprise and voyager were my favourites, deep space nine i only seen a few episodes of' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karrigan: 'Stop being such a gringo.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'DS9 was the best' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karrigan: 'Wait, what's a gringo?' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'and he isnt. i mean, its okay for a gringo to call another gringo gringo...' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'i lived in new mexico, heard worse than gringo :p' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'gringo is a durogatory (spelling?) term used to describe americans' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hirozan: 'Green Go!' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hirozan: 'It was the uniforms.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karrigan: 'The spelling was ALMOST right, Kobus.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hirozan: 'they were green.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'I have seen every episode of all Star Trek and all the movies except the latest.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'guero' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mannec: 'wait, wait - that suggests there might be some non-derogatory things for a mexican to call an american...' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'which has the most entertaining elements gener? i liked when the voyager was involved with the borg constantly' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'hrm yea thats a good point...' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'origin of gringo is actually way older than "green go"' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'i wonder what they are? blanca maybe?' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'anyone gonna pay for the new Star Trek series?' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hirozan: 'really Juanito?' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'that species that was borgslayers wree pretty awesome too during them episodes, they could be in a continuation' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'yep, it showed up in an old Spanish dictionary, like late 1700s or so. supposed to actually be from 'griego'' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I grew up believing it was "green go" too' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'Borgs were my fav roace. You will be assimilated' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hirozan: 'interesting... same idea tho?... Greek... foreign?' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'the borg wasnt really a race though gener' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'they were multiple races' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'what year was the Niger river named? i think of a derogatory term , a country and a river - and colonialization' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'yeah, same thing pretty much' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'sure it was. A hive mentality' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karrigan: 'More of a culture than a race' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'i just got season 6 voyager at library very topical ' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'i think it was more of a movement' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'The Borg are a fictional alien race that appear as recurring antagonists in the Star Trek franchise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek)' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karrigan: 'You should know better than to trust Wikipedia to get it right.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'yes but it is correct' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'about this' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'oh i get it, in the context of fantasy theyre considered a race as opposed to the factual term species' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'We are borg' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Debate is irrelevant' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'your face is irrelevant' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'Q is somebody who could have been elaborated on more too, his species - he pulls captain picard into borg space and watches them go at it' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karrigan: 'Except they aren't exactly a species either. They're a culture.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I bought the star trek tng borg collection... no ragrets' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'What about regrets?' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'not even 1' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Regerts?' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'true because they assimilate any other races they come acros. So maybe the queen is the only real Borg. ' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'they are all borg there is only one' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'Seven of Nine was the hottest Borg' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'The earliest use of the name "Niger" for the river is by Leo Africanus in his Della descrittione dellAfrica et delle cose notabili che iui sono published in Italian in 1550. - aha, so thinking of colonialization along them lines was correct' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'it's a scientific fact that Jeri Ryan was made of breasts' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'seven of 9's pretty good looking, not sure if she did any tv/movies after star trek' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'yeah i seen her on a few can't recall what tho' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Karrigan: 'Not entirely sure that's how science works, but I'll take your word for it.' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'ever googled her pics? :)' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'i also saw here on an episode of will wheaton's tabletop' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'the other hot scifi chick is what's her name.. the one from battlestar' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'man what is her name? GERRI RYAN or something like that' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'i hope there's no nudes, my imagination wouldn't be required anymore if there was' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'but no' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'jeri ryan, I said' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'oh, didnt see that' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I'm talking about the other one, the one from BSG' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oli: 'there were a few hotties on BSG' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'oh come on...' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'ugghhh....' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'helfer' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'tricia helfer? something like that' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'seven of nine on bsg?' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'one of these two BSG http://www.maxim.com/entertainment/battlestar-babes' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'damn' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'ugh i should do like 10 more campaigns and go to sleep' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'get a javascript publisher error on that site gener' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'i remember maxim magazine though' T3/r7/2016-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'BSG was awesome.. never thought Edward James Olmos had that left in the tank' T3/r7/2016-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'Apple has to pay 13 billion euros tax bill to Ireland' T3/r7/2016-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Shelkin: 'Do punk bands release videos during Democrat administrations?' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'any communist or capitalist pigs around here?' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): But first, Juanito munches messily on a large turkey leg-- what a pig! T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'What about commalists?' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i wanna vent.' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i can be either. so. pick the side' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'okay you be the communist' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'dunno why you capitalist pigs think you can buy everything with money? its so retarded. you're retarded ' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): But first, Juanito growls at __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal. Better leave the room before the fighting starts. T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'commie bastards tryin' to steal all my stuff' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I think we're doing this right?' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'art is free and for everyone! its the spice of life! why do you keep your genius artists living in slums so they have to change their minds and start chasing money.. by copirighting everything and making it wrapped in sellable underwear?' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'artists produce better work when they live in the slums' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'not better! SELLABLE. you capitalist pig!' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'w/e go live on a commune, and stop trying to steal my money' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'money and arts must never be tied together! thats why communinsm must spread around the world. for the arts!' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'communism respects peoples true nature. part of it is wanting to steal stuff. so. be free, be communist. steal if you feel the urge' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'your torrents are destroying blabla' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'sorry I can't write that seriously' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): But first, Juanito grins. T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'make sure you share your daily blessing' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I mean, you wouldn't keep it for yourself, like a capitalist pig' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'eh. sniping it is kinda my thing. i got 1, 2, secs once' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'and blathering is good' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'you capitalist pigs are too quiet and serious' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'makin' money' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i though you were complaining about me bragging and using public channel for personal kick.. ' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'language sucks. it really really sucks. i think if we all just whistled our emotions, we'd be advanced to uranus by now' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Andurien: 'you first. let us know how it works out' T3/r7/2016-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean the planet' T3/r7/2016-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'any greeks here? i noticed that greece has left the news, except when the 'golden dawn' was defeated, a king or something of qatar bought 3 private islands for ~10 million dollars there, and the protestors went quiet' T3/r7/2016-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'i tried decyphering greek news a few times to see what's up there, but i assume all's well enough' T3/r7/2016-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'what would be the ultimate format for tv&movies?' T3/r7/2016-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Betamax.' T3/r7/2016-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ok' T3/r7/2016-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there was vinyl video format.' T3/r7/2016-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'incredible' T3/r7/2016-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'so analogue' T3/r7/2016-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ozone thing is failing' T3/r7/2016-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'Trump isn't disclosing his taxes because he's a significant contributor to NAMBLA. Discuss.' T3/r7/2016-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Hillary won't release her speech transcripts from the wall street speeches because there were no speeches.. it was just a payout' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'What do you guys prefer? AMD or Intel?' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'whichever is cheaper' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris falls down laughing. T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'that's usually AMD... I was an AMD man for years... but out of the blue decided to go with an intel this time :P' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'and did you notice a difference?' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'in the current state INTEL is higher performing per dollar spent, but hopefully AMD will come back with their next product line' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'not really that much in performance really, but I just got tired of me AMD overheating... they do that alot' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'ah' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'i used to run AMD, but since intel realeased their I3/5/7 they are just stomping AMD' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I don't know... I had an AMD phenom fx quad core with 8 gigs of ram for years... this i5 with 16 gigs of dd4 doesn't seem much faster' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'I also got one of those laying around in the attic loved it' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'then again I haven't really done anything with it other than mud and install a few OSes yet :P' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i heard intel wants to quit pcs' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'you will notice it alot if you play any games newer than 7 years or so' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'true... I also haven't played any games either' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) AnnaBlack: 'piggy back them and max ojt' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) AnnaBlack: 'max out the ram' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'i switched from my phenom 965 like 3 years ago, running an alien laptop i got for cheap when my brother was in the states' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'I got a better gfx in the desktop but my laptop still runs circles around it' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'wow, that's messed up when a laptop runs circles around a desktop... time for a new desktop heh' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'haha something like that :)' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'thats bullshit. laptops dont have legs' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'amd didn't have any dd4 yet... and I was dying to try dd4 so that's another reason I went to intel this time around' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'dd4 rather' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'yeah i think AMD will release their next generation sometime next year' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) AnnaBlack: 'hi, I am laptop *shows off her legs"' T3/r7/2016-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Xergon gasps in astonishment. T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'they publicly strung up suddam hussein in cuba like ted bundy riding the lightning, but they respectfully buried osama bin laden at sea and all of the navy seals who killed him except for one are dead, why?' T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'the guy who shot larry flynt was raised in an era of strict media control which forbade the types of pornography larry flynt was creating, which was abolished in 1967 or 1969, and larry flynt didn't die from his injuries - although the man who shot him spent the rest of his life until 2013 in prison in utah - when he was executed, why?' T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'yet you let the guy who attempted to kill ronald reagan out of prison today' T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tehngion & Tehngion: 'well, I don't know all the specifics, but if I had to guess it could partially be because Larry Flynt was left paralysed' T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tehngion & Tehngion: 'actually, I stand corrected, the guy who shot him was sentenced to death for eight unrelated killings.' T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'me either, but looking at both cases and seeing neither of the intended VIP targets died, and only one would be assassin was killed, it seems like a biased judgement' T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tehngion & Tehngion: 'so the sentence had nothing to do with the shooting' T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'ohhh, i remember reading about other killings that were pinned on him - is that what got him locked up for life?' T3/r7/2016-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'ok' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'seems like theoretical physicists are getting uncool in the mainstream entertainment business. next?' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'oh. ok. next topic. can you make good money if you can google exceptionally well?' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'super-googler' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean, one guy here found a movie for me with a few vague hints. that was easy' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i saw that movie and couldnt find the title myself' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'hm.' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when you want to claim a patent, a shitload of money will be spent on searching about the thing..' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'to confirm that its something completely different' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) A macabre Sonet: 'some software engineers don't know how to program well but know how to google exceptionally well.' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i do that. most of the time i dont know what is in there. but it works' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'my stuff is free so it can haz bugs' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'yeah. that can be a real business. when i was in school trying to not pass out on those science paper writing lectures, the main issue was not about what to write about or how but how to find stuff from endless piles of research papers.' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i remember 2 hours about rules and 10 hours about how to find the useful stuff' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'and my sane brain told be fuck this shit, thats the most annoying job ever' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'what would it take to make all talk honest? ' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the ass hole stinks but the 1 and only reasont people bring it up is the pg-rule' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'seriously' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'what are you babbling about hwuaij?' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'things are. ' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'things are things.' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'thats all' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Somethings? Everythings? Nothings? Thing-one? Thing-two?' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'that all is all that passive aggressive crap, judgement, values... it is so distorted. its all crap. humans are insane.' T3/r7/2016-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'that last bit i agree with' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oberon/ Pixieking: 'Giving accurate knowledge or training intelligence? Which do you think helps new players most?' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Helper doctrine has been to make sure newbies can find out for themselves independently. Giving accurate knowledge is of course important, but what happens when nobody is around to give that knowledge?' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oberon/ Pixieking: 'Personally I agree, but I can see the point from the other side. Some people want to juice everrything tbey can out of what fhey have, this leaves no room for fumbling.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Many players who are helpers and advisors today came from a time when newbie channel was restricted to level 15 or less. The theory was that one learned by doing. That worked well for V2 and V2, as most of the knowledge we pass around today was obtained during that time. So in those days self-sufficiency was the thing. We do believe that that methodology makes the game harder to play which is why the current helper system is run the way it is. We are not here to play the game for you, we are here to make the transition to experienced player smoother.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'You still very much have to learn by doing - there's simply too much for the entire helper/advisor team to keep up-to-date about.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oberon/ Pixieking: 'Plus, mistakes make for character diversity, in my opinion.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: '"Mistakes".' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'exactly' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'I have to say, there were a few times early on when I almost quit' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'mistakes are part of the game, besides there are very few absolute mistakes here. You could say that instead there are better or worse choices.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'I am eternally grateful to the newbie channel. Without it, I would have been lost. They pointed me to so many helpful links' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you were a good student :)' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oberon/ Pixieking: 'I suppose this debate is won by a landslide.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Hmm?' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oberon/ Pixieking bangs down his gavel. T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'There's only been one non-helper speaking out :P' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'And by helper I mean advisors, too.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'can i be a helper for 5 minutes' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oberon/ Pixieking: 'everyone who spoke out leans towards the same conclusion. I was playing devils advocate simply so it could be a debate rather than a decision.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'You can be a helper for far longer if you apply :)' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'maybe later on (:' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oberon/ Pixieking: 'You can give an opinion regardless, mith.' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'part of being a helper means you cannot participate in global quests *wink Mith*' T3/r7/2016-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Obitual Mithridatic: 'i just wanted to sneak in an investigation of the guild towers, to make sure nothing's missing' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'the clinton foundation spent over 5m on charitable grants in 2014, that's nice' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'How much on the Clinton's expenses? Salaries of the employees of the foundation?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'slightly more, but I'm sure they did lots of useful promoting' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: '"Donate to us, we'll give you a super cushy deal."' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'nvm, I was looking at the wrong column' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: '2014: 8,9m donations, total expenses 84,7m - 2015: 5,2m donations, total 91,3m expenses.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'I was thinking the other way around' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'let's discuss why does US citizen can wish to visit or live in North Korea !' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'there is only a mere month left to go,until most sadistical US dreams about their citizens comes true !' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'vote for Trump if you like political jailings,censorship,full civilian control and abandon of those almost unused civil rights ! Make your worst nightmares come true !!!' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'American Dream CAN become a Nightmare !' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram looks around T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'surely it is eerie in here !' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Always is' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram shivers T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'So,little Emeris,tell us - why you should want to live in North Korea ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram cough T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram taps his fingers on microphone impatiently T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram sighs T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Well ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I wouldn't? :P' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'although korean chicks are hot..' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Then your affections doesn't come with Trump,doesn't it?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You surely doesn't want to be thrown in jail for just a mere words,disagreeing with ruling party,doesn't you ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I think all the candidates suck this year to be honest :P' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But at least one can guarantee your nightmares comes true,doesn't it ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'it's a choice between being beaten with a baseball bat or flogged with a whip.. neither is a great choice' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris is agreeing with that Jainnah person again... T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'the whip is much nicer' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Hmm. You could swear Vost has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ... T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris snickers with Vost about their shared secret. T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wolpertinger: 'we're assuming here that they are equally terrible, which is not true' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'You can prefer one or the other is less painful, but neither is good' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Vost must be into some S&M hehe' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Vost looks around and whistles innocently. T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'One is annoying and conservative,while other is insane. And at least Bill Clinton WAS a president,and aside for his sexual whitehouse games,he don't screw political grounds,doesn't he ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I thought clinton was a pretty decent president tbh' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'and to be honest, we just had our first black president... why not try a woman out *laughz*' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Anyway,folks - only just month (and couple of days) remains for a FINAL DECISION' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'it's pretty fucked up already, I don't see how anyone could fuck it up much worse ' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Trump is undoubtedly an awful choice, but Hillary is a liar.. a dirty liar, and I find her terribly unlikeable, it's just that Trump is worse' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris is agreeing with that Jainnah person again... T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Well,if there was Sanders instead of Trump,maybe this was being different ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I voted for Bernie in the primary, and I'd vote for him for president.. as it sits now I'll be voting for Gary Johnson, not because I think he'll win, but because I couldn't look at myself in the mirror if I voted for Trump or Clinton' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wolpertinger: 'a vote for gary johnson is a vote for trump because of our terrible election system though' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Anyway,"countdown to meltdown" ticking. Probably there is nothing more to be done,and everybody should buy a popcorn.Or begin packing bags and try to find nice village in Canada or Mexico...' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wolpertinger: 'since third party candidates are, by design, completely unwinnable' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'As long as we have this false dichotomy of you must vote for a republican or a democrate we're screwed.. we need more parties' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wolpertinger: 'there are plenty of systems out there where a third party would work.. unfortunately this is not one of them' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'if we had a strong third party we would have the same group of people spread into three groups instead of two.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'But right now they have complete power because we have to pick one of them, three parties means they have to compromise more, competition benefits the consumer' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'its a two party system, unless there were changes to the amount of electoral votes needed a third party will never work' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'There are multiple other parties and candidates,but why does only two parties had majority ? What do you think is the cause ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Maybe the voting system is corrupt ? Or the agitation and propaganda for two major parties is too overwhelming for commoners ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: '1st conservative party 30% of vote 2nd conservative party 30% of vote liberal party 40% of vote. liberal canidate wins. splitting the party hurts. A third party needs to be strong enough to win outright in the current system. Starting at 20% you are only hurting canidates similar to you.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Does there should be just ONE candidate from ONE party,each,goes for presidency ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'if we picked say 5 legislators in a group, you could devise a system where everyone gets a "fair" number of representatives. (fair is subjective)' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How does people explain why they don't vote enough for partyless candidates ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'because they dont have a party platform?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'their aren't really partyless candidates, they usually represent some small party you haven't heard of.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Does people vote "by heart",instead of looking in candidates political programme ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Anyway,i am sure - in november it will be a REAL FUN TIME !' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'trump will win for sure' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'then many people reconsider value of US citizenship. with time.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'people often don't vote for third party candidates because they aren't very good. If Gary Johnson was a good candidate he probably would have run for and won the Republican primary.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'he's getting good polling for a third party. if he stopped supporting the TPP he'd prob get better results' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Well,on the EU refugee crisis and Ukrainian questions,those elections will be most tense' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Which actions does US does toward Ukrainian question and EU crisis with rules of a Trump,or Hillary ? It is possible the whole system will collapse - starting from US,goes through Ukraine,and finishing off EU. Ever thinking about such scenario ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'what system will collapse?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'that's why i call this deadline "countdown to meltdown". Look,logic/ploitical chain: US/sanctions/warfare-Ukraine-Germany/refugee-EU/industry/refugee' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Only GB maybe totally independent from US election' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'and NW too...:)' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I have no idea what you are talking about.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And don't forget our good old Kim Ir Sen/In/Un' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Yeah, sorry.. I am not understanding either' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You don't really think Trump do support Ukrainian government,does you ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Honestly dude, the US doesn't give a shit about most of the world, except as it pertains to us, so unless it pertains to natural resources or an imminent threat to our people (ie, terrorists) we don't give a shit' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine here' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I don't think Trump has any idea what he would do about the Ukraine, when asked in the debate he tried to change the subject.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And what does Trump think about refugees ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'We don't care about them either, they're too far away to get here, that's a Europe problem' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'refugees in Europe, he hasn't said anything. If they are from Mexico he thinks they are rapists.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I also don't give one shit about what Trump thinks, because A) He doesn't and B) He isn't going to win' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Syrian refugees in the U.S. he is against.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'US maybe don't give shit,but i assure you - if WW3 happened,it will be "everybody dance now".And old Kim won't miss a chance to kick missile to SanF,under big buzz decoy' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'the U.S. cares about the Ukraine, but the question is would we go to war over it.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Avram, you really don't know what you're talking about, if North Korea did shit to the US, they will be removed from the earth permanently, and they know that, it's just games' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Of course IF North Korea is ONLY one who launch missiles - that's it.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But maybe you think intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuclear MIRV warhead only stored/ready at US or NK ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'No open war over Ukraine yet. Putin has Crimea, and beyond that, he clearly isn't interested in even the part of Donbass that is effectively taken already. It seems unlikely that Russia is going to start anything soon.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'also, there's the question of overstretch - the donbass area isn't exactly positive cash flow prime real estate, and Putin is a bit short on the income side atm.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Imagine - Trump wins,corruption in CIA and other corrupt countries comes along,people goes to war in South,EU goes down under refugees,France,Germany,Italy goes in total nuclear bombardments.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Holding Crimea is enough to sour the EU and NATO on allowing the Ukraine to join.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Maybe Trump/CIA had other ideas on how this should goes ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Listen - there is a high level of corruption in Russia and old USSR,right ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But where all money and thieves goes,and why ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Russian mafia had contacts in US agencies. And they're tied in dead knot on those !' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And those agencies dictate political background' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And Trump is loyal to those' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'NOW is it clear for you now ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I don't see the Trump connection, I don't think he has any Russian connections. The money from the corruption in Russia goes to Putin's friends, they are worth billions.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'and where goes those Putin friends,you should know ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wolpertinger: 'trump did get get like 100k+ under the table from russia, though 100k is chump change in the grand scheme of things' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Putin friends and stolen money goes mostly to US,isn't them ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wolpertinger: 'still, the fact that russia is going through the effort of trying to fund trump's campaign, lol' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Ever wonder - how does CIA oversees those ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How comes the West Banks dont notice the inflow of huge stolen money amounts from "most corrupt country"?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Maybe they're not so honest,after all ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: '[those who help thieves hide the stolen goods,should be threated as the same thief]' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'why would the put it in the US banks, that is where it is most likely to be confiscated.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Confiscated ? And of course there is plenty examples to prove such beliefs(sarcastic)' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Trump doesn't have any significant investments in Russia, as far as we know. Some of his projects got a lot of funding from Russian sources, though.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'that was a couple of years ago, of course' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Trump get support not from Russia directly.It got INDIRECT mafia support.International mafia.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How does the US citizen reacts,if they given news that the president of CIA get ties with international mafia ?' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'financial ties' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But i suppose they never believe,not even allow such idea to cross their minds.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But to understand it fully,i should notice - only president have rights and power to remove,or apply,peoples on positions in agencies such as CIA' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'well a good reason to vote for Hillary is that according to Trump there will be taco vendors at every street then, so that's a good thing i guess' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'yeah I wasn't sure what side he was on when he said that.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And thus,you probably see how does US election can affect many other countries,in massive scale.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'As most non americans i don't see why anyone would vote for trump. Sure hillary is a bad choice, but atleast she's not a sociopath that considers using nukes as good thing...' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Hillary and Bill(retired) somewhat loyal to Pentagon.And Pentagon generals,being more honest,loyal to Congress.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'Democracy is a terrible system, but as stated it's the best we got. Shame that it's more of an Oligarchy than 'demacracy'..' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Maybe you should see candidates in different light : not like Trump or Hillary,but instead CIA and Pentagon.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xergon: 'idk, im pretty sure both will do just 'fine' with either' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'By the way,i had to go,RL. And as for a last puzzle - think a little deeper about Bill Clinton case with Monica : who can be behind this,who profit from this,and who is considered enemy from this case for Clintons family.' T3/r7/2016-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram nods, turn around and leaves T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'http://www.cc.com/video-clips/e9z0ej/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-jordan-klepper-fingers-the-pulse---conspiracy-theories-thrive-at-a-donald-trump-rally' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'and while you know they pick and choose people to iinterview... still funny' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'what is the difference between entertainment and art?' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Imparsable HazeKnight: 'People only understand one, never both' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Imparsable HazeKnight snickers softly. T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'art is a subset of entertainment' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rincewind: 'That's a similarity, not a difference.' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'maybe the other way round instead?' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'I mean, aard is entertainment but it's not art' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'theres a lot of art here' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'like that visor' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'no Rincewind, it' a statement of the difference between art and entertainment which was the question' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'on auc' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'yep, that's neither very artistic nor very entertaining' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'still I guess that there is art which is not entertaining, so perhaps I am wrong. There might be art which is emotionally moving, but is instrinsically upsetting' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'has art anything to do with philosophy?' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'that art vs entertainment is 100% philosophical but pure art is just that they say' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'of course, it depends of your definition of art -- rhetoric was considered an art in the past, but few people would call Trump, for example, an artist' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its itself and nothing more. distilled art' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'is sport a form of entertainment? same question, perhaps' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'so, here is a difference -- entertainment must surely involve people. A piece of art can be locked into a cabinet, but a piece of entertainment cannot be -- it ceases to be entertaining once locked' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'entertainment is always tied to its end goal.' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'which is what?' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'to entertain. so. arts for entertainment are just tools for the achieving that.' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'guess whos drunk' T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal starts to juggle a six-pack of beer. T3/r7/2016-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Swalec: 'been fun to think about -- heading off now' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'y'all ready for the debate tommorrow? will trump call hillary a bitch? will hillary die on stage? will the moderator call balls and strikes? tune in tommorrow' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'i'm excited' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I have big plans of throwing toasters into water.' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'trump could barely hang in there during that 30 min hand holding with matt laurer.. 90 mins without prepared remarks or a telepromoter?? omg' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Gruagach, who would you rather for president?' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'tim kaine' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you know, when hillary dies in 16 months' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'I want kanye west for pres' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i mean bro, even marco rubrio' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'thats as far derp as i would go' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'For me Dog feces > Trump > Hilary' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i guess ur white' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Yes. I am white.' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'no, you already told me that. i know' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i guess i just hate the media more than anything' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'trump has done nothing but lie, lose and fumble his whole life.. ' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but i mean clinton is horrible too.. dont get me wrong' T3/r7/2016-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'woah' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'I heard there is some talk about extraterrestials. Let me ask you - how do you feel,if you get a chance to travel far far away,and find the species - in the far far far - sentient,extraterrestials - is a human. Same human as you.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neclord: 'Unsurprised, but extremely curious.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Extremely surprised and curious.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But does you though about Darwin theory - it is not UNIQUE,it is UNIVERSAL theory.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'universal, sure, but whatever planet you went to would have to be exactly like Earth for things to evolve the exact same way' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Darwin theory means the life - no matter on which planet or universe - is goes through same,natural selection. This goes to emerging sentient beings,too.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'It is funny to think - in the other universe is same humans as us living,with same problems and social,isn't it ?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And no octopus-like sentient human-eating krakens...' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'It's an interesting thought, but I think it's highly unlikely... near impossible' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'only stuff that wants to live, evolves. i mean.. not "wants" but kinda has the need. proof: lazy mofos on their couches don't evolve.:)' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'in fact, if that came to be, it would almost make me consider believing in a god of some sort' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Give it a second though,Darwin is a really talented person. EVOLUTION is UNIVERSAL,but life,even can be sparse,goes through evolution in known way.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'But he's not saying evolution always leads to the same results. We evolved into what we are today because of the specific conditions of our atmosphere and planet. You'd have to have basically the exact same setting in order to reproduce the results, and even then I don't think it would be exact' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'evolution is not lazy. the theory sounds lazy and laid back. but its so aggressive. sneakily aggressive.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'SELECTIVE evolution,it is !' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And evolution is goes SAME on life if it comes to other planets or universes !' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I still don't buy it. But you'd also have to consider the extremely unlikely scenario that they'd be in the exact same point of their evolution as us' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'rather than being at an earlier or later stage than we are currently' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Yeah,different evolutionary stages - especially tech and social,but otherwise - same humans in most aspects' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Maybe they don't goes thru ice age - but that means there is reptiles in biosphere,with "sentient monkeys"' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Anyway,is it funny ideas ?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I had never thought about it before. I always assumed any alien life would be completely different from us to the point where we can't really comprehend what it would b elike' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'If there was a similar planet, I guess they could be a lot closer to us than I'd considered' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And while everybody waiting for THEM,such a fun idea - those humans from far far away waiting for US - and think we are four-legged three-handed mutie/weirdo with super IQ' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And green-skinned with black eye-lenses' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But hey - social evolution goes almost through same keypoints too,in basics.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'In these ideas of Darwin selective evolution theory,it is most disappointing - fror an astronaut or probes. To fly hell knows where,and find - same humans - with same problems,with same social diseases,political scums,dumb commoner-herds and overall moral degradation. Imagine the shock for spacefarers.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Of course evolution is not same,there is few chances the evolution stage is be equal' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'evolution stages not the same,i mean' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'monkeys,animal with thumb finger,allowing them to carry or use things' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'an offsprings' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'or something like - 46 chromosomal,anyway. Drat...stupid words...' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'oh well' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Extraterrestial Encounters Of A Third Kind' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Sure thing,governmental pups - with niggers and queers' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'huh?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'I meant - government is SOOO interested in those "extraterrestials"' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'It is just funny' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How they can settle racial problems on SAME planet in ONE country - and still they "want an UFO"' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'SpinDriven PodShips ? Sure things,but you still don't step firmly on your moon,losers' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You call your airflyer pilots AN ASTRONAUT ?!? Awesome - but did they travel farther than upper atmosphere ? No ?????' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Laughable attitude' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Enough for now...' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram shouts like stadium crowd T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram scratch microphone T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram cough T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'This is an eerie feelings...' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram there was an echo "..eelings....lings..." T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram gazing in all directions,at empty halls T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Where all people goes ?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram listening to grave silence T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram shivers nervously T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Hey !' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'I know you are here !' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram tries to listen,but the silence almost deafening T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Anobody alive or dead here,can you respond ?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'if you dead,please don't' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Avram sniff T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You know,it is like in horror video,when there is a crowd-filled halls,and voila - ... deadly empty rooms,and silence...dangerrous silence...' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Does anybody of you ever imagine - how you do live and how you do feel if by some means you are only one,lone human left on Terra ?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I guess I'd stop working on mushclient then' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'solipsism' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'id stop doing situps' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But it is a creepy feeling,doesn't it ? TOTALLY ALONE ?!' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'What if people didn't have eyelids? That would also be creepy.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Such creepy horror feelings maybe i've seen at Isaak Asimov,and in famous DEADSPACE' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'if I'm the only one left I can't see my own eyelids' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'just get rid of the last mirror too' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But if you're only one last - maybe you go crazy and imagine your society ? just like people do in those isolated rooms,unintentionally' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'you know,in those experiments - when people,alone,live in isolated totally room,they start hallucinating - imagining things : peoples,voices' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'What if maybe YOU are ALONE and just imagining,hallucinating those people around ?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Creepy scenario for a horror psychological movie !!!' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'anyone going to watch the presidential debate?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Of course' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'nope' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'MNF' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I'll watch as much as I can stand before I get too angry at the TV.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'You have to watch because Hillary's smug comments, hillarious quips and non-answer to questions make you feel warm and fuzzy inside.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Hillary won't be the one looking smug on that stage.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'as opposed to trumps vague responses to everything?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'they both suck' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'when johnson is on stage, i'll tune in' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'She'll look smug. Trump will look constipated.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'anybody watching the debates?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I couldn't stand it.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'trump wants to complain about the deficet, then proposes tax cuts that will make it much much worse.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I've missed most of the debate because I don't subscribe to CNN :P' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'you can watch it on youtube' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'its also on NBC, ABC, FOX, and CBS.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'and twitter and facebook' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'he hasn't said a damn thing the whole time but he's said it very confidently ' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I have toggled at least three times between streams that get cut, and can't find it on the CNN website :p' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I just went to youtube and typed "presidential debate"' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Sukasa: 'Yeah the youtube one has been perfect so far' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Yup, I've seen a few of those.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'On one now.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jeez: 'so did you ppl see the debate?' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'not all of it.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I never said that' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jeez: 'watched most of it tho' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'I never said that.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'Nope. Never said that.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'just quoting my favorite lines ' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jeez: 'he did have couple interesting points there hot' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jeez: ''toh' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jeez: 'typo's huoh... was meaning tho not hot' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'trump has the advantage that he can run against both parties. He can critize everything that has occured and doesn't have much of a political record to defend.' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) But first, Juanito: 'Trump did better than I expected. I think Hillary didn't want to attack too hard..' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jeez: 'i mean the reasons for corporation to go from a country taxations too high and restrictions' T3/r7/2016-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'was afk, 10/10 Juanito on favorite line comment' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'cbc news concludes that Clinton's a coyer liar than trump, http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/presidential-debate-fact-checker-1.3780377' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Of course she is. She is a trained liar...lawyer.' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'she reminds me of stalin or the north korean leader' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'even wears the soviet red during her speeches' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'And she says she is all about helping the little people!' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amministra Amorat: 'Politicians claim a lot of things. For some politicians, the more significant claims are rarely true.' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'But Hillary has a face you can punch..I mean trust.' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'the people want a liar they can see through, better' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'vote trump' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Still voting Gary Johnson.' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'not deez nuts?' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'that stassin guy was a interesting story, kept on running ever since he lost to truman who kept america in asia until chuck norris was missing in action' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I thought about voting God, but he has a temper issue that I can't look past.' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'The DeweyStassen debate was the first audio-recorded presidential debate to ever take place in the United States. It featured New York Governor Thomas E. Dewey and former Minnesota Governor Harold Stassen discussing the legal status of Communist Party of the United States four days before the 1948 Oregon Republican presidential primary. The debate transmitted throughout the nation via radio broadcast, and is credited with helping Dewey win the primary and the nomination of his party. It is often cited as establishing the modern presidential debate standard.' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'religion's cool isn't it? a god who doesn't talk for himself sends non-schizophrenic apparition agents to speak his will to serial killer prophets who decide the righteous way of murdering people for thousands of years to come' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'You can't send a soft-spoken pansy to do it. You need someone with gumption and a williness to get people's attention at any cost!' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'on top of that, the gospel points out that all religion might be fiction -> 'be not deceived, for satan may appear as an angel of light', i see angels every day says the guy that everybody believes in' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'between politics, religion, slavery and war there's the ordinary life that everybody wants :p' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'amazing how the whole mid-eastern continent can teach people that it's ordinary to dress their women as lepers or else god will cut off your head.. ' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'enough of that though, back to music' T3/r7/2016-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMm_gFM8dg8' T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'xcp 1' T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Zhalut senses failure is on the horizon. T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'no news channel -> Congress should convene an emergency session of Congress to save the Internet from a handover to a UN-aligned organization. Congress, you left DC on September 29 without taking action to stop the transfer of control of the Internet from the United States government to the UN-aligned Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), scheduled for October 1. As William F. Jasper wrote in "Obama-UN Internet Takeover Is Just Hours Away": Members of Congress, national security experts, military professionals, constitutional authorities, privacy advocates, and human rights activists are warning that this pending transition to "independent" oversight by "the international community" is fraught with danger.' T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'that's the thing microsoft and other organizations were opposed to at a meeting in dubai a few years back' T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'http://www.jbs.org/mobile/jbs-news/featured-news/item/18579-hey-congress-you-forgot-to-save-the-internet' T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: '"internet takeover" lul' T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'internet in china is pretty tight lipped isn't it? or north korea, now people like those will potentially be in charge of the whole thing' T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Izocinoc gets a blank look on his face. T3/r7/2016-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Having gone complete apeshit, Mithridatic compares Aardwolf to Iran and North Korea. T3/r7/2016-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Vote for Johnson. There is still a bit of time for Libertarianism before the sun blows up. Idiot.' T3/r7/2016-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'ur presidential candidate sux' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'justin trudeau enforces a carbon tax that'll cost the average mineral-based canadian economy 3.4 billion a year to their economy's, after meeting with china's leader at their g-20 summit, if the provinces refuse to implement his united taxes martial law will put justin's will on canada apparently - yet justin trudeau refuses to sit down and talk with the premiers of the provinces about health care funding (saskatchewan has 3 orthopedic surgeons for instance)' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i told people he's a steaming piece of shit but they said, look at that hair, vote hippy - i didn't vote at all cause all of them are evil in their own way, quebec (the evil french) and ontario are all for trudeau's laws' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'sask is really down to three orthopedic surgeons? Tommy douglas is rolling in his grave' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'yeah, the average wait time to see a specialist about your fuckered back is 1 and a half years' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'maybe a referral to another province is possible, but mostly they have no time for you' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'wouldn't surprise me if canada splits apart as a result of this, maybe the united kingdom will boot trudeau' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'year and a half? sheesh. I had about 3 weeks for an ortho specialist in quebec this time last year' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'quebec gets special treatment like ontario does' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'trudeau: canada will give 500 million dollars in aids relief efforts in africa, while ignoring a backlog of 1,150 veteran applicants and health care in canada, mollification 'canadians want immigrants to have more canadian values' pseudu-nationalism' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'Yeah, let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark... I get it, i've seen it before... But I agree with you about Trudeau, he's a wolf in hipster's clothing' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'A quantum wolf!' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'debate debate debate!!' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'who is this chick, is she real or a robot' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'if a sexbot, i'd buy ' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Pence: Weemen are ebil. No rights for them. Religions other than Christian is ebil. Praise Jebus!' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'YO VOY AMERICANO. TACO TACO - tim kaine' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'pence is so scary, but trump is so much worse no one is talking about him hah' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'pence required funerals for fetus.. like hello? crazytown' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'pence looks like he needs to take a trump' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'They need to go with higher end facial putty' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Forged in Fire is on, or I would still skip the debate in favour of something else.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Taeryn you can read the media tomorrow saying how The Democrats lost by being non-idiots and the Repubicans won by being less idiotic than expected' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'It doesn't matter, they are both idiots :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'this azn chick losing control..this is a fox news episode where they have 5 guests talking at the sametime' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Pence is a far right idiot. Kaine is a right idiot masquerading in blue.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Pence ties a better tie knot, though.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'And they grow ... corn' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'lol trump should just let this pence guy do ALL his talking' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'believe me lol' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Fifth time he has said "War on Coal", I am in favor of that. Oops six. Put coal in jail, release the non-violent offenders. Oops seven' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'its funny.. pence talks about economy and he was in office in 2012 and kaine was in office in 2008...big difference' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'that equal pay for equal work line, i hate it' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'nods me too' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'tru' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'cuz noone does equal work' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'men should always be paid more' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'men don't mess around like a lot of women do' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'women are already paid equal, or even in some cases more' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'nor do we spend work time fixing our make up.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'not hillarys campaign staff' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'they are quoting a study that has the CEO pay included with the min wage worker' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'they always pollute something lol, in politics it's usually the facts' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'pence just destroyed him with a chuckle' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'agrees hehe' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '"hah you stupid little bitch"' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i hate trump 100% but kaine is getting butt raped' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'm like 80% sure trump released the 1995 returns lol' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'If Trump is such a brilliant business man how did he lose 900 Million dollars. That is the real issue not how much tax he pays.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'businesses gain and lose, doesn't make them bad' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'agree' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Warren Batty had a similar tax return where he had a -900 million return.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'bill gates lost more than that, guess he's an idiot' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and i'm sure the 1995 have been looked at by the irs, he didnt nothing wrong' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I'm sure for Bill Gates it was a much smaller percentage.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'get'em trump's apprentice!' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris growls. T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I honestly couldn't be more dissappointed in this debate... Both Hillary and Trump suck monkey nuts... I simply refuse to vote for either one of them :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'wrong road to go down..' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'oh so do i, i'm voting green if i don't leave that column blank' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'But if you think about it... We had the 1st black president, why not go for the first woman president... :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Emeris, you should try to pick. I think this is going to be one of the most important elections in a long time in the U.S.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'If you think my vote's going to matter, you're more dillusional than I am :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'if a woman wins all women will never let you wear pants again in an argument' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'and if you try the women will riot in the streets over it' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'that's the least of our concerns where killary is concerned' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'It's true even in a close election you aren't 500 people from Florida, but low turnout by one group or another has turned important elections in the past.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Well... I think Bill did a hell of a job, if she was pullin' the strings I'd vote for her... but I really don't like trump in general.. however I stick to my previous statement... they both suck :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'well, trump will have monitors to suppress the "you know who" bigly' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'I think bill was a loser' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'worse than trump' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i just dont understand this election. trump is like.. just listen to him man..geez' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'The only thing he did was get a blowjob... other than that, he did pretty good imo...' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'He was a pretty good president, and in his personal life at least better than Trump.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'dont forget black hawk down!' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and lie about it, you know..the part that impeached him' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'I think hes a bigger jerk than trump, just better at covering for himself' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'well you know how many presidents got blowjobs and lied about it... so he was stupid enough to get caught... or honest enough' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'BENGAZHIIIIIIIIII' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'anyone could be a big jerk and good at covering it up.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'I only mean good at covering for people who actually like him' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'most can see right through his thin personality' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Anywho, trump's not *that* bad.. atleast his ass-hole-ness is out in the public... he don't give a shit to hide anything, I do admire his arrogance, but I never liked the guy before he ran for president... I'm not going to change my opinion now :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'either way we aren't doing much for 4 years' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Your Daddy DjVoltron is agreeing with that Of Loyalty Gruagach person again... T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Kaine finally brining up relavant policy comments about Trump, he should stay on that.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I personally think that both of them are poor excuses for human beings, and neither one of them should be running our great country... And on that note, I'm goin' to bed hehe' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'i agree emeris' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'kaine is acting like if he doesnt do good clinton wont feed him tonight' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'kaine is a weenie of a man' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'let's be honest, would you want that shrew pissed at you?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'makes me wish he was debating arnold' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah pence def carries himself better' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'pence everytime they say trump he's like "FUCK!"' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I want Arnold Schwarzenegger for president, that would be so entertaining I wouldn't care if he screwed everything up' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris falls down laughing. T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Okay, I really am going to bed, but before I do... I have to say I agree with Jainnah... He'd be like fuck you... I'll be back *rofl* okay night for real :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'I only said I wished hed debate Kaine for all the girlyman type comments hed insert' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'you know the sad part is we hope that Congress will rein in whoever is president, and there approval rating has been as low as 9%.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'see this is why women can't moderate or run the country, no one listens to them' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Your Daddy DjVoltron ducks defensively. T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'you have to admire her for not giving up and walking off the stage.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'if she wasn't hot they'd still be talking about cyber attacks lol. hilary doesn't have that advantage.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'nods, would be nice to see though cuz you know she'd slap both of them before leaving' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'greatest nation on earth..shit bro i thought we were 3rd world worse than afgaastan' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'OMG!! why is pence giving the plan?? general mcaurther wouldnt like that' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Got your good view of a deranged Nazi, yet?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'on a side note the president of the Phillipines wants to be the next Hitler (his words) meaning he want to kill 3 nillion drug dealers and users' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'does that include marijuana smokers? cuz i'll stab a bitch first.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'trump is winning on twitter, thats for sure' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'He is already pretty close' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'kaine is trumping it' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Who is winning?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'how it go? kaine is pwning this dude?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'kaine imo' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'pence by far, kaine had a few good moments' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'whoever trumps guy is on the right lol' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'i don't care about their nominees why would i know their vices names hehe' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Kaine could be doing better, started weak, getting better.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'No one is winning. It's all leading to death, destruction and sprinkless cupcakes. It's the apocalypse unfolding.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'and that too' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'baseball better' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'but this crap is like a car wreck, ya gotta keep looking' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'game still tied anyways' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'with all the channels its on, its hard not to look.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'plenty of channels it's not on' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'ever since the advent of the guide feature i haven't been much of a channel surfer, more a guide browser :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'It's not on Spike channel. Those stupid twits are showing the new episode of Ink Master.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'all i know is this host will never do shit again' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'hopefully she models' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'naked' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'd buy that porn' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'even if she is elderly' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'lol she's asian-ish, they don't age silly.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'she'll be 102 still lookin like that.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'look at her hands' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'i refuse' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'will spoil my image of her' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'I thought her name was hispanic :(' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i think this is a preview of sunday.. an open forum, if those trumpkins get in, it could get wild' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'names don't mean much' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'kaine gets paid $50 everytime he says tax' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'lol think it's only 50?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'kaine isn't winning this imo, i mispoke earlier' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'trump's boy is owning this shit' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'makin me want to vote trump so this guy gets in when someone kills trump' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '42...hard years for a filipheno' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'she love you long time' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: '5 dollah let you talk all night' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'blind trust blind trust' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'thats it, i'm taking a shot everytime i hear tax at this point' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Your Daddy DjVoltron waves goodbye to Of Loyalty Gruagach. T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'yer gunna be lit' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'okey half shot' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'oh shit another lefty' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'wOOOT' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i love when they just say false lies..its like really bro..even kaine is ready to pounce' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'clinton foundation has been invesgiated, cant find shit..looks shady but cant find shit' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'gotta remember theres like 5 other orginazations that make these kinda changes' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'just means they hide it well, like some botters :P' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Kaine is just using his stupidity to lull him into a sense of false confidence' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'SHOOOTY' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Debate Rope A Dope' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'best answer' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Any second now he will release the secret weapon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBMMCClIgTc' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'I hope it's not Hilary in a bikini.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'what i dont get..trump loves america so much right? why is he using china steel over us steel, buying all his products overseas..he himself could start to make america great again by taking a loss..but profits over everything' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'BUT BUT ANYONE WOULD DO THAT DUURRRRRRRRRR' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Uh, I hate to even defend Trump, but practically every business in America sends money overseas to make more profit' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah, and none of them run on just loving america so much and standing by "watching it burn"' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'Don't worry about defending your future commander in chief.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'he's been implicent in the downfall' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but all companies are' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'most pay less than 18% effective tax but hide their profits overseas while abusing the infastructer of america' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'heres the babby stuff' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'babby?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'abortion talk' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'How is babby formed?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'it's a typo, get over it.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/trumps-vp-pick-passed-law-requiring-funerals-aborted-fetuses' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, we don't even require funerals for adults' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'then these two are not worthy' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Ded is ded.. light my shit on fire' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'nods i'm gettin cremated and my ashes spread over aardwolf.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'right in the servers.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'god bless the Secret Service' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'pence on kilter' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'it would be cooler to have your head pickled and put on top of the server' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I want to be a head in a jar, like in Futurama' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i cant weait to vote 10,000 times in the straw polls' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Wasn't that where "Abby Normal" was found?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'clinton sucks in real life, but shes not really that bad of a politcian' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'So Clinton for Aard?' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I heard today that endorsements are basically ignored and useless today. So how about a useless and pointless Aard endorsement for Hillary?!!' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'proxy time.. ' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Clinton can't play here. She'd just lose device after device and end up multiplaying.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Pretty close to home there, T' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'But she would just claim she was never trained on the rules.' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'thank god that's over' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Your Daddy DjVoltron: 'back to sports channel and baseball' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I think the Reds won that one' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'lets see what lumpy has to say about the debate' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'get the lube ready' T3/r7/2016-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'megyan kelly.. like a sculpture' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'hello, is e-ciggarite a good vice ?' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'does the word "good" appear in the definition of any vice?' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'gotcha' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'like if you want to enjoy nicotine then e-ciggarite dont got health bad side affects? prolly need to google it lol' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'decided caffiene is a better choice then nicotine :)' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'so no for ecig and yay for coffee' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'those ecig got still chemicals in them that causes mouth cancer' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'trump or clinton to win ??' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Uaird: 'I believ Clinton is currently in the lead in the polls.' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'yip saw that on fox news' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'im not from usa but liketo follow this' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Uaird: 'Where ye from?' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'ukraine' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'and you' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Uaird: 'Minnesota' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'in ireland, people have been sitting behind TVs with their mouth open for months.' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cbaktlafr: 'Minnesota has 90,000 miles of shoreline, more than California, Florida and Hawaii combined.' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Uaird: 'That's kinda funny. And yeah Hwu, we're doing the same thing in the US.' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'im not irish. Dylan Moran said that' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Uaird: 'Oh, still though.' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'he said that Trump is a bad material for comedians. they got nothing to add what he has said' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Uaird: 'haha' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Uaird: 'I think it's harder for people to pick a side this time around, but maybe my memory's not so great.' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'can a cello produce a happy sound?' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'how come the United Nations and the Moroccan IMF chief have stopped telling people from self-sustainable countries to 'eat bugs' so people that can't feed themselves can eat your selfish food?' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'odd how that was like gangnam style for a year and a half then all of a sudden people're liking big butts again' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'the trees should have rights' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Wolfsnail Anaristos: 'Crumpets or English Muffins? Which are better?' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'muffins, crumpets are chewy' T3/r7/2016-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I prefer bagels :)' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'what is the point of alcohol free beer and bubbly' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sounds like you've never drunk alcohol ;)' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'why' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the answer to your question is self evident to anyone who drinks alcohol. Not to say that it is a good answer, but it is an answer nonetheless.' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'i drink alchohol to get wasted and till i puke i hadnt got enough, i drink 43% brandy mainly, people who drink fake beer is fake? want to look cool ?' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'some people like to me mildly intoxicated rather that shit-faced sick.' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'besides, beer and wine makes certain foods taste better.' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'oh t' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'oh ok' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'some people who aren't use to attending social gatherings without getting wasted use the fake booze to pacify their palette' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exiled To Aphelion beams a smile at Twiztd. T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'never did me any good, i'd rather drink a gatorade or slug that bottle of whiskey' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'make sense,tyall' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'some of the fake bear actually taste like beer :)' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'it's a psychological aid for them to remain sober' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'beer*' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i haven't tried the new budweiser' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'bud's got a fake beer?' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'i get it now, people who quit ciggarettes try electronic cigaretess to get off the real thing, same thing with the beer kinda' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'except the beer has no liquid nicotine in it' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'yip' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'there's no medicine for the alcohol buzz out there' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'im sober since April, no smoking no drinking, been to gym the last 3 months :) my health improved so much, i dont get tired so fast and my lung capacity is great, i sleep better and feel well rested in the morning. after 11 years of partying, i feel the best this last 3 months, life is just better sober and doing the things you love like gaming and geek stuff' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i had to force myself to start smoking when i stopped for a year' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'the idea that once you stop you're just one smoke away is al ie to me, i had to gag down 4-5 , the idea of having 'betrayed yourself' is the power behind it i think' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'with alcohol though, for me at least, i will always be incapable of just having one or two, like those wine sniffers and tasters, i'd be slugging the bottles down eventually' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'what happened that made you wanna start again, death, depression,boredom ?' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'yeah, pretty much' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'plus they went good with my beer, which i was also off of' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'oh yes, i cant drink without a smoke, so quitting ciggys while drinking is real hard' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'i was tempted to start ecigs yesterday, but decided against it' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'my friend quit 'smoking' a few years ago, he turned to e-cigs and stuff, not sure if he vapes weed or not' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'im afriad i will start drinking again' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'he got them nicotine cartriges though, so that part of smoking, having the object in your hand delivering the intoxicating smoke is still there' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'lungs're in better shape though, better than not quitting at all' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'agreed' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'check out an AA meeting sometime, some people get help from those and most everyone at them would have fucked up more than once' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'they're better in bigger cities, cause there's less likeliness of seeing someone you know at one' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'nods' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'i was so bad, i thrown my packet of cigs on my roof, the next day i fetched the ladder and climbed on my roof to get it' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'yeah, i've done things like that - things like booze and smokes will always be around though and you'll find either' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'thats why im so scared to start any vice again, i got a very addictve personallity' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'unless you lock yourself in a federal prison or somewhere, where you have to choose between bubba's stash and your ass, but then you get out and don't have to worry about bubba keeping you from all the smokes you want anymore' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'noe' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'nod' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'with drinking i try to keep in mind the mass destruction it's caused over the years, and the hollow feeling of forgotten drunkness the next day and how pointless it was all the other times - with smoking i'm having one right now' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'only addicted to coffee now, drink like every 90 min :P i find it gives a lil buzz' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'that's something i just have to not do, the physical exercise you're doing helps with that' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'get better soon dude' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: '90% of the western world is addicted to coffee' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'it's a stimulant too, i had my first cup when i was like 12 or 13' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Alzar: 'I'm not.' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Alzar: 'Tea though.. :P' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'im 91kg at 1.86m atm, trying to bulk lol while trying to loose a small amount of tummy fat to show six pack, the hormones released and the pump feeling you get is pretty dope' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'yip, coffee is good, tea have good properties aswell' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'and eastern society is addicted to tea' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Firestone: 'all of society is addicted to caffeine' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Twiztd: 'the sun rise in the east, so they dont need coffee in the morning to wake up, they get a big ass sun' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'Do you suppose Trump likes Duterte?' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'did they pick americas president yet' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'i wish trump wins' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'http://lmgtfy.com/?q=did+they+pick+americas+president+yet' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'ok waiting for you to google it' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I think God should win. He is one of the 1400 federally registered presidential nominees.' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'a woman shouldnt be a president' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'I don't trust god... he has a history of warmongering and whismically killing people...' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'he's definitely negative on equal rights' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'not much for religious tolerance, either' T3/r7/2016-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rincewind: 'Are you a troll, twiztd?' T3/r7/2016-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'yay 1st grey hair and im 30' T3/r7/2016-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dishevel: 'Got my first one before 18' T3/r7/2016-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): May-B Twiztd buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r7/2016-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'i think thats called premature greying' T3/r7/2016-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Dishevel: 'The good new is that I am 48 and still have under 50% gray hair. Think I will die with still having color in my hair.' T3/r7/2016-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'could be, people dont live past 77 on average' T3/r7/2016-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: '71.5 years was the global life expectancy in 2015 ' T3/r7/2016-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'the oldest person alive today is 116, born in 1899 . omg' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'funniest sport ?' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'breast stroke' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Thumb wrestling' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: '(:' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'competitive speedwalking' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'toe wrestling is a thing also' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Timed Poetry Reading' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'buck poo spitting ' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'TPR to the cognocenti' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'the buck poo looks like small marbles, competotors who spit it the furthes wins' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'they say its just grass' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica sponsors David, who gathers a few poo and slings them into the forehead of Twiztd, killing them. T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'who wants to kiss that' T3/r7/2016-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'The Donald Kills Kitten. Who dare say that is untrue?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i dont know why this trump mess up is sticking..but i'm happy something is sticking to his slimy ass' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'hmm? did something new happen? or is just the recording stuff' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'after all his crazy policy statements, its weird that something like this will matter.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'just the recording stuff, and his response video' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'it doesnt matter among his fans i'd wager - he was a moron before this came out' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'still I haven't heard people say they wouldn't vote for him, just that they wouldn't support him publicly.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'm intrested in what else is coming /popcorn' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'good point though.. this election is baked in' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'fox news has been hating clinton for 30 years' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'was there anything particularly damning about the clinton paid wall street talks?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and i'm starting to really hate trump for just 2 years.. so if he was on tv for 30..i'm starting to see their hatered' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'theres actually some really good points, but there are a few zingers' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'of course the full transcripts were not relased, just parts..ofc' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'not that any of it really matters, there's only two parties, the haves and the have nots' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the haves and the haves more' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'hehe that sounds better' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'omg.. rudy giuliani is going to replace keyllyanne conway on the sundays shows today... HAHAH wow' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'only the best.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '"why is trump getting so much media attention compared to clinton. its nearly 10 to one. the MSM really hates him." -fox .. hah spin baby spin' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'things dont lool good for trump with the release of those tapes' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'which number is more special here 999999 or 1000000 you think?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Trump suggests that his stupid talk was back when he was 59. Change is good.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'over/under trump drops the f bomb,cunt, or bitch tonight?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'anyone think someone has trump saying the n-word on tape? like it has to be out there right' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Anderson Cooper: Mr. Trump - Did someone write a program that meessed up your twitter output when you were staight?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Mr. Trump No one Meeses with me.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'm son has a computer. i have the best infomation on the cyber' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'oh dear' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Ms. Clinton - What is your response to Mr. Trump's recent tapes?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Ms. Clinton - Barron has surfed 93,657, 890 porn sites, and plays a game called Aardwolf' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Ms. Clinton - Barron goes by the online name of ClintonLicker' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'd like hillary to say "suprised to see you here tonight Donald."' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'just put him on tilt from 50 seconds in' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rincewind: 'I'm fairly startled by american politics right now.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'anyone undecided in this years election is a fucking moran or just looking attention' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'Inferno is not happening. PROVE ME WRONG' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'anybody about to watch the debate?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '/popcorn' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'wanna bet on whether they'll mention any sort of policy?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'just going to be p*ssy grabs and wall speeches' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'got a 2k bet tonight about if trump will curse, i was even given the word shit..lol' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'haha excellent' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i didnt get puss, but i really think he will drop the f bomb..i'm really banking on "who gives a shit, fuck or something' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I'm not so sure' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'you think he will legitimately curse after the week he's had?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I think he'll be incredibly boring' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'or maybe he'll finish imploding' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'he needs to have the performance of his life..but its hard for him to say the words' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i mean he couldnt get his wife to sit by him for his 90 second video that took 8 hours to produce..' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Is this a recent video?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'not sure I saw it' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'if he bombs tonight..omg how many rats will jump ship' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'are you watching the NBC stream?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and they do not shake hands! oooooo' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The debate, or Sunday night football.. Hmm. Screeching she-bat and gibbering oversized gerbil, or something entertaining.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'well, there is a sports channel.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Doesn't matter. The test pattern is better than the debates. :P' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'you see that sniff?? his mic was messed with!' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I think the Clinton campaign tampered with his mics' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'most logical thing' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'too bad his mic was working in 2005. *BOOM*' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'There are several times I can think of that a broken mic would have been beneficial to him and very few where it would be a detriment' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'cnn is lagging :( boo' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'nbc is fine so far' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'will load that one :) ' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'i think it's a little further back than your stream, though' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRlI2SQ0Ueg' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'ah, nice :) ' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'this is the most tame he's been. he stoped talking :)' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'as I predicted :D' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'he looks like he's on xanex lol' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'probably a good strategy for him.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'You know, either one could win the election with a very simple phrase: "I'll legalize pot".' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'instant win.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'that's on the ballot in my state' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'please please please' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That is Gary Johnson's slogan.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'and he's not a good poster boy with him memory problems' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'he's currently mad because criminals get lawyers' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'yea, libertarians really strip down government, remove almost everything' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Bernie Sanders is a legal write in vote, so vote your conscience!' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'see barter' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'just what the country needs, socialism' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'tbh, i've never seen so many losing choices' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Jeb!2016' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The country is all ready full of democratic socialism.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I miss jeb' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'legal threat, damn.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'he had the best moments' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'we're a pretty welfare-based state already. peopel go to prison because its luxory compared to streets' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'get fed 3x a day, a bed, a room, heat, television, a gym, and a bit of internet if you're a good boy.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'They also go to prison because laws and sentencing are retarded.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'well i mean people do commit crimes to go to jail because it's better than being poor/homeless.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'oh snap!' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'people also go to jail because of plants' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'that bothers me a lot' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'hehe, he's losing the temper.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'he's getting excited that the audience is going with him' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'yea..' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'lol! haha he is entertaining.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I'm far more terrified than entertained, unfortunately' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'this debate is legendary' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'tho i use the term debate loosely' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'they haven't talked about a single thing yet, though' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'exactly' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'she steps in his space. "protect your ground" law says he can shoot her!!' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'trump definitely doesnt want to talk policy. pretty sure he doesnt have any. just strut posture and attack' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'How is this our situation? I am getting sad' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'When I have to put the kids to bed early because the presidential debate is too inappropriate for them, the situation is bad.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'The only thing I keep telling myself, "doesn't matter who wins, I'll still have my home, my job, and aardwolf. it's fine."' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Notice how Trump isn't wearing the wedding ring?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'hmm. well hopefully whatever disaster either of these idiots become the catalyst for, will be slow in coming' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'In his space again :P #thuglife' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'what is he doing.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I do like how he does not let people interrupt him. Is a pet peave of mine, so I like that.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'these mediators should at least pretend to be impartial' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'You have to go back.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he's humping that chair.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'he's like a kid' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'when she starts talking i just zone out' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The media isn't paid to be impartial.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I keep typing barter' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I actually zone out when Trump speaks' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'he never ever says anything and I can't listen to it' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'See, he gets interrupted. I don't get that.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I hate I'm siding with him, but they are.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'those moderators are very biased' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'looks like he's gonna come out on top for this debate if this keeps up' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'They hijacked the lights so the hue cancells out his orange.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'barter channel turned off lol' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'heh' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan snickers softly. T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'moderators shouldn't be unbiased' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'they should fact check both of them' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'but they don't actually fact check either' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'they shouldnt bullly one debater in favor of another' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I agree unless one is lying more than the other, etc.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'don't have a full opinion on how they're doing yet on this particular debate, just a general thought' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'I value my opinion so far above most people's.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'if they were saying - that's not true, i'd agree, their just yelling at him mostly' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'yeah I see that' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That is no way to treat the next president of the US.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'next president is a public servant, not the other way around, treat them as you like' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: '^' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'who's going to ruin the country more slowly..' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Who is more likely to incite civil war? Trump inadvertntly through being arrogant. Or Hillary's plan details than will inevitably cripple and decay society to the point where we are succeptable to invasion.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'that's what im asking myself' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: '3 words candidates... "I'll legalize pot" and *boom* win.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I never thought I'd cast a vote for Hillary, but I think I have to' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'not excited about it' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Clinton will have a more slow screwing of the country. Trump will want to get it done as fast as possible.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Because, I feel like we have stalled world war 3 as far as possible. So picture this.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Yea, the one thing that really scares me about Trump isn't his sexism or racism, but once he becomes president, how fast will he make enemies in the world and how fast will we go down/' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Would you want Hillary leading us to war? Or Trump?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'loltaeryn' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'i'm gonna pencil in bill clinton' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'definitely hillary leading us to war' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'I doubt you would be very useful in a war based on that answer.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Trump literally knows nothing you guys. Please... listen to him' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'He just says stupid things very confidently' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'So your opinion is irrelevant. You aren't going to be fighting the war.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'I will be going to war.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'i noticed that in the last debate too gezu - it's spooky' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'And I want to die under Trump over Hillary.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'so do u want a villian or a confident moron' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'At least it would change the face of society.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Trump isn't stupid.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Blackrein - you nailed them with that' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'You try to debunk him because hes inexperienced and arrogant?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Adolf Hitler.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'I win.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Under Trump over Hillary... So you'd be the meat in the Trump-Clinton sandwich?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'true he isnt stupid - but he isnt a president' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I think he's stupid' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'he has a certain low cunning' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Hitler wasn't a politician. He took a war torn starved country.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'look at how poorly he's run his businesses and he claims that's his main thing' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'sandwich smells like icyhot.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'And turned it into a feared world power.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'he was left 500mill and now has 3 billion' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'He has insane charisma ' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'never seen anything like it' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'most trust fund babies go through their entire savings before they are old enough to retire' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'What other stupid point do you have' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Otep - if he would have just invested the money he would have more right now...' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'He invests off the sheets. Just like any other business man. If you don't the government steals your money.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'next stupid point' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'You definitely fit the Trump voter lol' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i mean turning 500million into 3 billion' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'certainly doesnt impress you' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'so what the hell does' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'so what the hell doe' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'youre damn right i do' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Google the world population ticker.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'watch the wheels turn for a little bit then come back to me' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'We are overwhelming the world. Trump will inadvertently stimulate a purge.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'lol, that's the sanest thing you've said today' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Sanity implies your approach to an equation.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'You can't poke at my sanity until you actually understand the equation.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'if you support hillary you arent biggited or racist or mean cool' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'but you are stupid. very very stupid. and gullible.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'double qp so stfu for 10 minutes.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I don't support Clinton, for the record' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'unfortunately I think she's safer than Trump' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Exactly' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'that search for safety and the evil you know has resulted in a imaginary number in debt' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'and a negative gdp' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Carry on that way and you will slowly dissolve into a society of kids who are rewarded just for showing up and have rights that they dont earn' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Sound like a society youve whitnessed?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I'm ok with people having automatic rights' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'don't care about kids and their rewards' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'The kids are the future.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'The future is irrelivent.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and look how they treat it with all they are given.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'I see why you aren't running for president.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'lol, kids are the future but we are headed towards a purge' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Yes, that's why I'm not running.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'because of population' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'This is the longest period we have gone without true war.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'actually gezu did run. he's carson.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'In man's recorded history.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'heh' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Oh dear' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'We have tried to adapt to germ and nuclear warfare. With either there is no victor, because everyone dies.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I have wanted a nap more lately.. must be carson' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he'll fuck you up... unless you're wearing a belt buckle.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'So we have stalled out and plateu'd as a race.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Can I please be Jeb? He was so sad and hilarious' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'I wanna be carson' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: '"but I did stab him but I did!"' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'hahaha' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'No seriously, I attacked my mom with a hammer... please believe me' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'oh and God taught me chemistry' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'in a dream' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'hehe' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'wow. you're a lot like joseph smith creating mormonism.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I got those tablets' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'but don't look' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'just lolling at how he thinks having the image of him stabbing some kid as a teen were gonna make his numbers better' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'listening to Hillary talk about supporting the middle class is making me kind of sick' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'and the press was basically like "it never happened" like trying to help him lol' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackshield: 'but he was like "ya ya it did!"' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'haha' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he's not doing too bad.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'You know who the real winner is? Bill :) He hasn't realy brought up those ladies he brought.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'So he may not sleep on the chaize tonight.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'they took our jobs!' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: '*rooster crwos*' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'no no.. dey took our jerrrbs!' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'I think the only 100% valid thing to be said through all communities is both of these candidates are a pathetic joke.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Seriously' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'How did we not have better options?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'And the sad part is, we caused it.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'We had a chance to make it someone else.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I've said it for a while now, the real loser of this election will be the American people...' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Dn't know if poeple just didn't take it serious at the time or what.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'yeah but what other republican candidate could have worked? Maybe John Kasich?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I was for Sanders, but I understand a lot of people didn't want to go further left' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'I voted for Sanders in the primary, but I won't be voting for Clitton (not that it matters, my state will vote for her anyway)' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'are you Trumping or Steining?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Ross Perot running?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'my state always goes red' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Kasic vs Biden would have made me feel a lot better about our contry.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Yeah, Kasich v Biden would have been a lot more normal' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'the single most confusing thing to me this cycle is the number of previous Sanders supporters who are going libertarian for Johnson... what?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'do they not realize the economic views are literally the opposite? lol' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'yes it confuses me to.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i think sander supports hate clinton as much as trump, so is just throwing the vote away ' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Uhh, because clinton screwed bernie, and clinton is an awful person.. and trump is no good either.. so.. vote for someone else?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'and there you realize that 90% of sanders supporters just wanted legalized weed' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'well. its a funny thing about voting. ppl dont always believe in it fully - the two party system is terrible though' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'Weed is going to be legalized without any help from bernie, that's an idiotic statement' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'vote for someone else is fine, but Johnson doesn't support anything Sanders did except social liberal stuff and drug legalization' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I'm telling you, it takes three words to win this election. "I'll legalize weed".' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'will get 80% of vote.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'except the people who want it aren't the type to actually vote' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'It's going to be legalized in probably 2/3 of states in the next 5 years or so anyway' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'we're too stoned to stand in line' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I am not fond of Johnson, myself, but at least I can respect him. I can't say that about Hillary, who will continue to screw over middle and lower classes while being their champion, and Trump, who just doesn't care or understand.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Nah, just bring cheetos to the booths, they'll come. Great advertising for Taco Bell.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Jainnah: 'it makes too much sense, it's less dangerous than alcohol and it will bring in a TON of new tax revenue, there is no loser' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'I don't think the Rep or Dems are likely to rewrite things for a parliamentary system or that preferential one the Australians use' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) PIKACHU Mokg: 'private prison system will lose money' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'except big pharma' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'and what Mokg said' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'think they're going to ask about money in politics and over turning citizens united?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'that's a rhetorical question' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'whenever she talks, i just here that usual political drone that sounds good but ultimately means nothing' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Yeah I just hear her saying whatever she thinks will be most popular, honestly' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'I still contend it's better than the circles that Trump talks in' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'and she mentioned Citizens United... thanks Bernie' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'she has a fly on her shirt :)' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Surprised she isn't covered with them.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'he's really a lich' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'she*' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'that guy is a pedofile.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i don't like him' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'let's not bad mouth liches.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'gay santa' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'there's no such thing as clean coal' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan nods at Blackrein. T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'did he just say rejiggering' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'only three people can pull off mustaches - cops, macho guys, and boxers from the 1910's. he was none of tese things.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Not defending mustaches, but I'm also not sure they can be used as accurate pedofile detectors lol' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan nods at Gezu. T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'Fact check: Ohio is not phenomenal.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'that's what i meant :) if you don't fit those three, pedo.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: '^ win' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'cytan you forgot walruses' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Arist' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'rekt' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'that's what trump needs. a mustache.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'Oh god can you imagine?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i think i'd vote for him. his would go completely horizontal too' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'a mexican mustache' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'every time he sniffed, it would have a catapillar effect.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'hahaha I'm surprised they didn't try that in his bizarre campaign to show he's ok with mexicans' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'just comes out in a sombrero full of nachos with a 'stach' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i'd vote for him if he had a mustache.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'yea, stach and sombrero comes on and says "hola" pronouncing the h really hard :)' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gezu: 'to be fair, i'd vote for Clinton if she had a mustache too' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'haha cy' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'we need more facial hair in politics (ladies too)' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'they should just cut their mic' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'oh wow' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'tahts a great question!' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'HAHAHAHHAHA' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'trump first ' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Did they ask what colour crayon they would use?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'awww..' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'oh boy what is he gonna say' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'her pussy' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he thinks what he says' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: ''her vagina is like china, its yuge'' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'oohhh nice :)' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'she talked too long, he's had time to think' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He never has time to think.' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and he's trailing on it :)' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'hug it out bitches!' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'if they actually touched, something like a matter anti matter reaction would occur' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and there was the handshake' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'members of hillary's species have a viscous mucus coating that prevents direct contact' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'so who won?' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Blackrein: 'trump took it down ' T3/r7/2016-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Still going with the New Horizon which is lucky enough to keep speeding away from the earth.' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) May-B Twiztd: 'cant see how trump can become president after fridays leak tape' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'The Debate with Trump & Clinton is alarmingly refreshing...' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'well I'll give you alarming :)' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'A little short on actual issues and ideas.' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'although describe how to improve the economy you have two minutes is a little short of a time to describe much.' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'Well let's think... Trump cannot possibly feed america with his natural milk... He'll just milk america dry and cover whoever he believes deserves coverage...' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'at least Mrs.Clinton is a lady!' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'not to mention the legacy she has with her husband...' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'and Not only that... She may keep her eyes open and improve things beyond Obama's touch.' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'neither Trump or Mrs.Clinton is the most awesome choice but you must admit.. Mrs.Clinton is not a typical gal...' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'Now If Parris Hilton ran for president and was against trump instead... Then we would have a probably especially if Ms.Hilton actually won...' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'she is intelligent and I think she would do a reasonable job. I don't agree with her on everything.' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'How many of the 130m likely voters have a thorough understanding of the main issues and vote based on rational analysis?' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: '8M ? :)' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'that sounds wildly optimistic, I was looking for a number in the thousands..' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada meeps! Maybe you should too! T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'so not much point appealing to that niche if you want to win' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Issues? What issues? Man vs Woman. Woman never president. Woman president good. Vote, yes. Much simple. Understand good.' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada rolls on the floor laughing at Taeryn's antics! T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'how many people have taken a basic college econ class. should be a few million. How many follow the news regularly?' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'By news, you mean what the Kardashians are up to? Or Shia's marriage?' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'if a Kardashian ran for president as a third party could they get the 15% needed to get into the debates?' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I fear that they would.' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'mfw hillary has 13,000 people show up in ohio after trump keeps saying she cant draw 200' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Quick Draw - I'll* do the "thin'in'" around here! -And *don't* you for-git *it*! ' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Trump seems to have (coke)asthma(coke), he should get some (coke)medicine for that' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It is like Hello Kitty, only nasty' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Emails? Emails? Barron Trump runs a personal Dark Internet server from the Trump Tower' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I saw it on Drudge' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It is Beck's primary source of info for the coming aporkalyse' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Gosh misspelled pork lypse, I miss my inspiration, come back Sarah!' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'hannity thinks this was the best debate ever.. wow..lol' T3/r7/2016-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'these guys lol' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'anybody watch the Presidential debate sunday night?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Doubt they wanted too if they did :P' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'This is one of the worst ones in history' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'you for trump or clinton?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'Neither... They both suck monkey balls' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Nope.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Rancid monkey balls.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'im actually pro trump. Clinton isnt worth a damn and voting for any other party is just a waste of a vote.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I agree with the one guy... I'm gonna go vote for myself heh' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'It is only a wasted vote if you don't vote at all.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'yeah but I don't want either of them there period heh' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'well most votes are gonna go towards the democratic party or the republican Party. Only like 13% of total votes make up all the other parties.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i think its cool trump is reading russian propaganda at his rallies.. really adds a spice to it' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'now trump isn't a good guy either, but he's the lesser of two evils.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Possibly more than that since polling is biased towards a two party system.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'leser of two evils.. 10/10, i see you rolling' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'yeah, I still like to want to believe my vote matters, but 999/1000 times it doesn't... they're going to do what they want anyways, they just let us think our votes count heh' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'our founding fathers said there should never be a two party system. It would resort in gridlock' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'depends on what state and county you are in, in texas my prez vote is dog shit' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris falls down laughing. T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'everyone i know is voting trump, but clinton could win in a landslide, seeing how our votes only PERSUADE the electoral college.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Electoral college: Making half the votes useless since the beginning.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'no way you echo chamber is wrong' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'One year, I think it was when Obama got elected, not sure... But it was down to the ohio vote, there were more votes for than against or something like that, but our electorial asshole voted the other way anyways because their wasn't enough of a difference it was up to him' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'how spicy would it be if trump wins the votes but they cast for clinton..i bet some people start waking up to the system we are run by lol' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'it's all so much bullshit. Did you guys read the wikileaks on clinton's emails?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'did you read the RNC's emails?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'They'd have to make a better case than they did with Gore vs Bush at the Supreme Court.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'oh russia only gave you one side?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I really don't think it matters who we vote for in this case, there is no greater evil... they're a good equal heh' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'clearly all these emails have been vetted in less than 12 hours. and every news is running with them..derpy derpy doooo' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'meris I disagree clinton is worse then trump, she wants to push the one world order.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'can trump surive 2 more tapes, one dropping the n-bomb? we shall see' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Trump is a blatant evil. Clinton is a manipulative evil.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I do agree with that... I do admire Trump's open honest evil approach very good' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'trump doesnt know what he is saying/doing level of dumb' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'ima just do this this and this..no' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'it will be great, why didnt anyone care to solve the counrties problems before.. clearly its super totes easy' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'have you ever watched a full rally Gruagach or catch what CNN and Fox are showing to manipulate americans.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i get my news from a lot of sources' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i read the drudge, i tune into alex jones , i browse the donald/conspricy, fark, rachel maddow, msnbc etc' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'The only reason i truly want trump is he says he's gonna bring jobs back. Clinton said that the TPP was a Goldmine' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'But I never did like Trump, even when I watched him on that show my wife used to watch when he said "You're Fired!" He's a dick then, he's still a dick now, and I refuse to vote for a dick for president... Like I said, I'd rather vote for myself heh' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'okey manufactuering is at 80% in america' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you cant bring those type of jobs back' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'we export more energy then we buy' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'trumps razzle dazzle of a few cities in the country isnt what the country is made up of' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'technology has killed a lot of those jobs, forever' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'most of our manufacturing jobs are leaving to go to other countries since bill signed NAFTA it reduced tariffs making it cheaper to import a product the build it here' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i could buy that, not too versed on nafta' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but i know america innovates better than any other country and the top 10% dont pair their share' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'and your right Gruagach technology is replacing alot of manufacturing jobs. It's cheaper for a robot to build a car then an america' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'our college is still top tier, our medicine while expensive is still top tier' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) basically reduced taxes greatly on importing items while increasing the export taxes. On all of our trades we make a deficit of 800B last year' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'made*' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: '-800B' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and yet our gdp keeps growing, near zero but not losing like 700k jobs a month like in 2008' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'trump says a lot of things, but there are a lot of smart people working on soultions to these problems that havent figured it out. is some two bit conman who doesnt take input from anyone really going to have a soultion' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i mean maybe, he has shown he is willing to take measures other countries thought we were incapable of' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'Well take IRAN into account, they were a weak country we step in, make war. Pay them tons and now they are a very powerful country and i cant remember if it's IRAN but ISIS is there now. Where i'm from we have a saying look after your own first.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'Trump said he doesn'y know everything, but that doesn't mean he can't hire the best to figure our problems out.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'iran has never been weak' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'I meant weak in terms of wealth' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the best..like the nobodys in his campaign? like ALL the smartest people in america against him?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah, tbh idk why we did that sanction lifting shit..' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'the smartest have the system where it is becuase they all make money off it' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i mean i get it hillary sucks, and if she wins there will be nothing but more gop obstruction. i'm sure impeachment papers will be filed before she takes oath of office' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'two years of that before she dies happily the first women prez and we got vollyball dad take over' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'no major news paper has come out for trump, top generals back clinton, top cyber security back clinton..i mean i get it everytime someone backs clinton people just say "see thats the establishment getting mad" but at some point if everyone is against something..' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'if trump takes office, he will slow all the bad guys down. He said 1 percenters get special tax cuts. In sweden if you get pulled over your ticket is figured on a percentage of what you make. Meaning if your poor it would cheap and rich it would be more. A nokia executive got pulled over and owed $103,000' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'A lot of the military support Johnson from what I have read.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i dont see how any miliarty could support trump who is so scary out of his element and shits on them everytime he gets a chance' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'thats waht my nana says Gruagach. She says that if EVERTONE is against him, he must be trying to stop their plans. From what I know Clinton is crooked. That fucking attorney general is. and so is the Head of the FBI' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the head of the fbi.. really' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'james comey who 2 years ago all the gop was sucking his dick, suddenly this is a corrupt guy?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'yeah the attorney general got in a plan with bill clinton for 29 minutes before clinton's trial. She says she is gonna go with the head of FBI's recommendation. Head of FBI comes out and says i dont think she should get in trouble.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the timing is way off there' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I guess that congress is wanting the email thing reopened and Comey is wanting immunity.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and maybe it was a heads up of the results but i dont think bill had any infulance' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'that came out wrong lol. I meant she was on the plane for 29 mins' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah bro its hella shady' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i dont know if i can buy into that level of conspericy though' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'people have done a 5th of what she's done and have big prison sentences for treason' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'so something's fishy there/' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'some kid in cali took a picture on a sub and hes going to federal jail..like a selfie or something' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'that bitch sent classified info on a personal email account.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'unproven' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'that wasn't a crime in the 2000s when cheney did it' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'she sent some emails of lists, that later became classified' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'bush deleted what, millions of email' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'bush was a bad prez lol' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'colin powell had a public account he did his service on' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i mean she was in the position to understand what is classfied and would could be declassified and maybe she made a judgement call' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'well look, i need to use the restroom then we can continue this.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'we dont really know what the content is right? how confidential the infomation was and really how impactful it was' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'Julian asang from wikileaks has all the emails up on his website. There's an email she sent to bernie where she said she grew up in middle class and when she became a 1 percenter she understood how she couldnt share everything with the lesser people (99 percenters) cause they wouldn't understand. Im trying to find the email.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i wont read russian propaganda' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you can if you want' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'if rnc emails are released i'll read both' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'm not going to judge one side and pretend the other isnt doing it' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'how do you know it's russian hackers?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the nsa said ?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'that could be US propaganda' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'unless they are in on it with the fbi' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i guess this conversation is nearing a close.. lol' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'i guess so lol' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'was an interesting debate, learned a few things/' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'oreilly not pulling any pucnhes on this trump interview lol' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'not watching it, i cant stand the media on tv' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah its pretty shit eh' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'each channel has their slant' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'well they always turning clinto into a fucking angel and trump into a bad guy. They cant get off of this "grabbing them by the pussy" thing' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'he bragged about trying to cheat on his 3rd wife, while she was pregent..' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'less than being married a year..' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'hey, it's locker room talk.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'its kinda off putting man' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'no.. its rich eliteism talk' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'very true.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'That is not locker room talk, that is sexual assault' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'maybe in their golf clubs' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i played football from pee wee to college' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i played baseball, i have been in nfl lockerrooms.. i mean bro its not common place.. it really isnt' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'ok one that is not secual assault. people talk like that down here. We may say we grab em by the pussies but it's just talk' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'actually grabbing them is sexual assault, though' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i've never ever heard that phrase before, but its not just the words its the conduct that women have come out and said' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'and you cant say you were in the locker room and you were bragging to the guys about the girl you slept with the night before' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'againt their will? never' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'yeah but he didnt really mean he did he was just being a showoff like trump always is' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'without waiting for consent? never' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah, i can see that' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'ofc not against their will' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'its a story like 5/10 but the media made it a 9/10..i dont get why this one has stuck' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'at the bar, bought her a drink and one thing lead to another. And you tell your boys about it if it comes up' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'if rumours are true he droppped the n bomb i wonder what will happen' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'oh yah there is salty talk for sure' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'my nana calls it the pussygate scandal xD' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'not useally cheating on their spouces and not in their late 50s with 3 kids' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'It's kinda weird that we're somehow entitled to read every email Hillary's written. 30 years ago it'd just have been a regular letter on paper. No copies. And in the information age she's lost any right to have an audience of one. Is everything a senator/secretary of state writes to somebody else public domain?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'its pretty gross' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but i understand the want to read it' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but overall its pretty gross..these are humans that work for clinton..not clinton.. most of it is garbage and no way can be vetted' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'ofc i have never cheated and I doubt i will, but you know if i banged the shit out of a fine girl a few nights ago and my friends are talking shit ill talk shit with em ya know' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah well now you arent defending what trump said he did' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'it was the common place, the ickyness was how easy he spoke about it' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'no what trump did was talk shit. I doubt someone with his popularity wouldve gotten away with sexual assault. Women have prolly tried to trick him in the past ya know' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'he just got married to his third wife and he knew he was mic'd up' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'where u from Gruagach' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'houston' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah, but women have come out against him' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'im from louisiana and when my dad and all the men sit on the back porch we talk like it's np' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'women have hated trump for as long as i can remember' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'about trying to cheat on your 3rd wife while she is pregnet with your 4th child? and your 59?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rune of Ixultar: 'probably 'cause he's a shit to them...' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'like I said, cant hate a playa' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'some people are wired like that' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'but i dont see what that has to do with leading a country/' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'aside from that, trump lives in his own reality and he cant admit fault and he cant understand when he needs help' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'they always wanna forget about the real problems and target with that shit' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'and Guragach you are correct he hasn't matured to that point sadly.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'your candidate cant talk substance on any single topic' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Or take criticism.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i mean he says hillary didnt do this in congress or that.. or she didnt do this bill or that bill..she wasnt in fucking ways and means committitee.. you have to work with people' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'true on the criticism. Well im about to pull my phone out and join back. cause i need to smoke a few joes. brb' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'im back.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'so the wikileaks' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'what have you learned about her speeches to private banks.. anything?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'have t ' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That she isn't in touch with the middle class as she likes to show herself as.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'shes been in politics her whole life, who thought she is in touch with anyone' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That is what she claims.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'really?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'I don't think Trump knows the price of a gallon of milk either' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'okey i guess, i didnt know that but i could see that.. dems just own that demo' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'States she came from middle class, uses that as her understanding and knowing what it is like, despite living in luxury for decades.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'so i tried to open a mud client on my phone, it wont let me type good. Imma BRB but i want to say this. Clinton called us the lesser people in an email to bernie explaining how you cant tell us anything cause we woudlnt understand it like the 1 percenters do.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'clinton said this' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'or her people in an email to other people that they throught were friends' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'Yes its on wikileaks, been trying to find the email again. Its an email to Sanders' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'clinton emailed sanders directly?' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'anyway i need a joe bad. BRB' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'while you are smoking, clinton wants to deschuedle weed which would lead to clinical testing and some day hopefully legalization ' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'thats gonna happen no matter who gets into office. There is no proof that it is bad, and the gov't released that it does help cure cancer' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'all drugs oughta be legal.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'in sweden when heroin got bad they didnt start a war on drugs they put clinics everywhere with clean heroin and weened them off and helped them get jobs again' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah, when we saw a drug problem we privitized prisons' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'they make money on the war on drugs' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Then bribed judges to keep those prisons packed.' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'ive been really thinking about saving up and moving to canada. Just too much shit going on in the USA tbh' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'lil boosie did 5 years for a weed charge' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'state pen time' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'yeah it's ridiculous' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the more you look at shit the more crooked it all becomes' T3/r7/2016-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) JohnWilikers: 'very true Gruagach' T3/r7/2016-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'whats the date Russia and USA will declare war you think?' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'do you think that fusion energy would make all people nice?' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'Yeah when hell freezes over ' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'all things would be printed, food can grow deep down under surface, people can drive anywhere' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'all for free' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'Competing/fighting is something we see in all living things. Why should we stop doing that? It's essential for life to want more and be better. When someone is winning someone is losing. ' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when you have 0 worry about food or roof, you aint gonna wanna fight no more' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'Even plants, mushrooms and bacteria compete ' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'except natural born dicks' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'they all fight for resources. fusion may eliminate that fight' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'for us' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'don't forget breeding. Many fight to impress ' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'k. i have 30% wine left. lets see now....' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'to be able to breed' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'even females fight to get the best males' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'askjdfhkasjdhfas' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'the world is screwed up get used to it :)' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'im just passing by' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'we all are ' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'im not really into it:P' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'the world of life?' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'that world' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'me either' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'so many awesome things. and then some that is worse than in your average hollywood horror flick' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'just watching the insanity at a distance trying to take care of myself and my family ' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'One day you realize that happiness comes from within and thats really the only thing you want to hold on to. ' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'you can't change the world, but you can change yourself, and maybe others will follow, but don't waste your life convincing others!!! You will hit the wall over and over. People have to find out themselves....like monks have done for ages and Buddha did, and me of course :)' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'HALLELUJA ' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hugotski: 'better do something that really matters, like killing a imaginary worm over and over an over! :)' T3/r7/2016-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Manjushri: 'Ew A debate ch' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'freedom is floating' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'nope.. i meant freedom=floating' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'and inevitable=something bad' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Should registered voters known to have IQ less tan 100 be allowed to vote?' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'How does modern democracy resolve the riddle that 50% of the population have sub-par intelligence?' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'How else will career politicians hold office?' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'We move them to the office of resolution of disposition of electorate disposition' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Come With Me Now!' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'By Kongos?' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Anyone who does not believe that Satan is driving this election hell bent for leather, does not believe at all. I do not believe at all, but that is just me, ya know?' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'On the other hand, I am listening to Uptown Funk, and liking it. Satan may have won!' T3/r7/2016-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I'd fool around and have a ball - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0' T3/r7/2016-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'england sold its navy to a turkish scrapyard and the usa and is now suffering from paranoid schizophrenia over russia sending an aircraft carrier and some warships past it on their way to syria' T3/r7/2016-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) FirstBlade Gladacus: 'Is that cold war fear of Russia nuking USA still around?' T3/r7/2016-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Brittania the Gem of the Ocean' T3/r7/2016-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'the new king of thailand made his third wife sing happy birthday to his birthday wearing a g-string on its 3rd birthday, and trump's the only hope america has of not signing the trans pacific partnership' T3/r7/2016-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'hillary's all for kinky kings of thailand' T3/r7/2016-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'to his poodle*' T3/r7/2016-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Oh get f-ed' T3/r7/2016-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: '? is it like the hitler versus stalin fight over who gets to burn everybody to death in a gulag death camp ? i don't know why trump and the kinky king of thailand can't just agree to disagree, while the lesser of 3 evils is elected' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Are you afraid of a nuclear war and airstrikes ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: '{begin running}' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: '{end running}' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'nooooo' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'BAN HIM!' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: '{begin running}' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Try to' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: '{end running}' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: '{begin running}' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: '{end running}' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'wtf someone aliased by hunt -> debate 1.litt girl' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'it's not my fault!' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'using the trump defense eh?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Hey,bots attack ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'my SnD, while working, is....' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Seek-and-Destroy bot-worm program,at main server ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'backfired ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'hey ! ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'I flew too close to the sun, and now am punished.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Don't be such depressive' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Tell what happened,your intriguing scream-o-despairs makes us go wonder' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'oh right, you don't have imm talk. ' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'yup' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'So ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'I tested the waters about cock speak on imm and now my echo commands are on debate. Or something like that.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'what is this {start running} things ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Come on,just tell us everything' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'well...I guess I can turn debate off, I just can't echo anything.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'but what about those botruns ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Endymion: 'the {start/end running} are echos that s&d uses so it knows when the speedwalk is over and when to start hunt tricking a mob' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Endymion: 'this isnt the q/a channel is it?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Endymion: 'wait, dont answer that' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'no,but tell us - do you are afraid of a nuclear bombardments ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Do you think your country REALLY have a nuclear weapons ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'do you think rank,or money,can save from carboniser ?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'RL,time's up,bye for today,everyone!' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'haha, they cut him off. best moment of the night.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'she looks like kim jung un. and no handshake!' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'taking bets, 2:1 odds he'll sniff in first 15 seconds of talking.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Chew Toy Chumpy: 'you are on! 10k gold says he goes 15 seconds' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan bounces around. T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) General Xaeris: '4:1 he insults hillary within 30 seconds.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) General Xaeris: 'Booo, you lost that bet :P' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'no sniff!!!! mouth breather to night :)' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) General Xaeris: 'Not enough coke?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he was afraid they may take him up on that drug test' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'she wasn't being sarcastic dummy. take a compliment.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he's showing composure finally.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he's cracking.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'so you have a lot of republicans going democrat, and vice versa, and the debates really push those people so i think it matters more now than probably before.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'When does the shitshow end?' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I wonder if Trump realises it's far easier for poorer economies to boast a higher GDP growth rate...' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'come on now trurien, the growth is gonna be tremendous ' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'i just cant keep it to one channel' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Grow it in your basement, then.' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Trump talks about the year 17, lol' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'So much for "they go low, we go high"...' T3/r7/2016-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'she was zinging him pretty good tonight, smart move too' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Guess she needed to go high enough to get a few stomps in :p' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I take it from the comments that trump lost his cool.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Trump was never cool.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'haha' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'There were phases, but he was mostly calm by Trump standards.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'it was really entertaining to watch for me' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it as due or die for him :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Urgh, bit of a car crash fascination going on there...' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'I can't stand listening to Clinton talk.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'was*' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'WRONG' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'my favorite part were the little looks the moderator was giving trump' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Mozenwrath: obviously those were pre-defined gestures that Trump and Fox News agreed upon, lol' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'hehe' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'he didnt do badly, but clinton was just really impressive, most of her early stuff was the usual political drone but she got into it by the middle' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'No media would ever share information ahead of a debate. Think of the scandal that would cause.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so what's the take then?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'just refer to that gossip mischannel' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'what's really sad is, i have to agree, she should be in jail.. but she isnt and that really says it all, doesnt it' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the thing is, just about every president has qualified for a spell in jail cell.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so that doesn't disqualify her :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'Mmm. sad, isnt it.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'only if you are a dreamer :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the reason they get away with it is because people say "sad, isn't it?" shake their head and go on. They do nothing to stop it.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'setting for the worst sounds more like a nightmare to me' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'settling*' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it's all perception. She wouldn't be as bad as Nixon or LBJ, and she has her husband's legacy. She will be a good president.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'you really believe that' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Bill Clinton was a successful president and he will point out to her how she can be the same.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Can you give the definition of was?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Bill could arguably be the best president of the 20th century. Right there with Delano.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Clinton balanced the budget, rescured Social Security and left the treasury with a surplus which was immediately squandered by the bush.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'and... what about NAFTA' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'what about it?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'This is like, the MORNI NAFTA' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'what about all those poor poor ugly female staffers that got felt up' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'That wouldn't be my first choice, believe me.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I believe he had good intentions with NAFTA. It came too late in his presidency for him to invest any effort on it. That was supposed to be the next president's job. But there was no next president, there was the bush :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and now NAFTA is in a coma and if Trump wins it will be dead.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'what about almost getting impeached for lying to the public and then getting caught' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Heh.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'well i mean almost getting fired. he was impeached' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'first of all, an impeachment is a trial, a trial is used to determine guilt or innocence, so being impeached doesn't mean that one is guilty. Second, almost doesn't count.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and as for lying, what president hasn't lied?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'sure, but he got caught. so he's not a good liar. that's a problem' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yeah, right, let's not balance the budget you poor liar.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'all those innocent children who had their illusions shattered on that day.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'He's a great liar. He just couldn't legal talk his way out of it.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'right' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'he is a great liar, while you were watching him get a blow job he was getting away with Whitewater.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'his wife isnt as good as he is at lying or covering her tracks' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'His wife isn't that great of a liar. Time and again she is getting caught in one and has to change her statements to fit.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and what did you expect him to say? what would you have said? Yes, citizens, I get blowjobs by my interns.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'but she'll still ruin the country more slowly than trump will' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: '"she.. seduced me, america"' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'she won't ruin the country. Not in the way you think. Ruining the country is something republicans do, or has it been that long since the bush left office that you don't remember?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it's a credit to Obama that the country has come back somewhat from the abuse heaped by the bush.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'red or blue, doesnt matter. just those with money, and those with way more' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Soros is licking his chops in anticipation.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'which is why republicans lose :) the marginalized outnumber the rich and the marginalized are going to vote :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Is Trump what America needs to prepare for a total rebuild?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if you think the bush damaged the country, elect trump and learn what total damage is.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Still writing in Sanders or voting Johnson.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'remember, trump owes money, he doesn't make it. he won't be able to get away with that crap as president because he won't be dealing with nervous creditors he will be dealing with countries that are not going let him screw them over.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'and Sanders is a weak sister. Voting for him is voting for trump.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'do you really think democratic candidates care about the rabble?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Wallace was shot because he was a 3rd party candidate. It's lucky for Sanders that no one expects him to get many votes.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you act as if any candidate cares about the rabble.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'you keep saying how great it'll be. but their all in the pocket of their corporate, an in hilary's case international donors' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the one su[preme drive in a human being is greed ;)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I have never used the word "great" at all.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I think a hillary presidency may be good but it will probably turn out to be run of the mill. Trump's presidency, however, will be a global disaster. I wouldn't be surprised at a 3rd world war.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That is such a fucking stupid comment. A vote for whoever you want is a vote for that person.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'in re?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'so you havent been saying how wonderful it'll be under clinton? hasnt that been your overarching point?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'use whichever adjective you feel most comfortable with' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Taeryn was referring to the "Vote for Sanders is a vote for Trump", I believe.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Yeah.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'don't confuse my horror at a trump presidency with a prediction of a wonderful life under hillary. As i said, she will probably turn out to be average, perhaps somewhat above that. She was big shoes to fill, Obama was surprisingly good. Trump just undo everything Obama accomplished.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'a vote for sanders is a vote for trump because it won't be a vote for clinton.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'That is a completely untrue statement and you know it.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sanders won't win and any vote not for clinton will help trump.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'where do you think the sanders' votes will co me from? the republicans?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'From independants who would other stay home and not vote at all.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'right' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'sure' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Voting records were up across every state during primaries because of Sanders. Do you think these people would have shown up for Hillary? They didn't cross over to go vote Republican, either.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'if you don't vote you are not an independent, you hitchhiker :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'right, he caused people to register to vote. Now hillary and trump are in a race which at this point is clearly undecided no matter what the poll say. If those who register because of sanders vote but not for hillary, they are helping trump. If they vote as he asked, that is , if they vote for hillary, trump won't have a chance.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'if ppl signed up to vote for a socalist, i dont see them getting behind the poster boy for capitalism' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'socialist? who sanders? heh :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'They are helping the person they are voting for. They are NOT helping Trump. They are NOT helping Clinton. To do that they would have to vote for Trump to help Trump.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'They would have to vote Clinton to help Clinton.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'democrats are socialists almost by definition. They implemented the welfare system, didn't they? what do you think socialism is?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'so you are saying that a vote for sanders helps sanders? help him do what? get a raise?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Is it possible to even vote for Sanders right now?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Yes. It help him and only him. If I didn't give my vote to him or Johnson, guess who I would vote for.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I believe you can write in.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you can vote for mickey mouse' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Is he on the ticket?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Sure, OK' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'mickey mouse gets a number of votes every election' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'personally, if I were to reject both candidates on the ballot, I would just vote for myself.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'But if 70% of the people decided to write in Mickey Mouse, they would have a Mickey Mouse president, huh.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'All the proper paperwork has been filed for him to be a legitimate write-in candidate back in Janurary or Feburary.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Hmm, that's a good system to have. I wonder how the news outlets would report it, though. What have write-in candidates scored in past elections?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'the system is in place, no clear majority and the senate chooses the president, the representatives choose the vice president.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'though the bush got the supreme court to create a law that made him president.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You smirk. T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'I always wonder what he thought watching all those tv skits where he comes out as an idiot :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'darth vader is an official write-in candidate as well' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'oh, I'd vote for the dark side of the farce :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'let's discuss games designs and resulted mind twists on society on this channel !' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Mind twists?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Yes it is ! Imagine - about in game,what do you expect from your player character fight with,say,troll ?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'You expect you gain experience,level up and get healthier' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Thus,this makes you not to be afraid of conflicts but instead search for a mobs to fight,rightv?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And you got a habit stimulated by game' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And then there goes the Real Life ...' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Uh huh...' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'See ? Your mind IS become twisted,then. Unnoticeably!' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I think you're attributing more causation than is necessarily involved to activities in a game.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'No no no,but look - lust for fight leads to overincrease of testesteron,also' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'So ... the top monster killers here should probably have the highest sperm count?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'So,instead of 'learning to fight or evade fights' you get into the twists of psychique and as a result a hormonal imbalance,slowly !' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Testesteron increase do no good if unbalanced.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I don't think so - helpers here encourage people to consider their fights before starting on them :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'The 'fights' is not a matter - matter how you think about fight result for your character with whom you recognize youreself' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I am somehow attached to my character, yes, but I do not identify myself as an elven navigator or a troll necromancer...' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'See how HitPoints increase from level ups affects your views on fight' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Again, most people are able to separate a game situation from real life, so I don't think that's too much of an issue.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Separate ? Maybe if you play couple a hours of a week. but imagine how mind,and as a result - a body,will be changed if you spent almost all time in computer games !' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'You grossly underestimate my involvement on Aard over the past 19 years :)' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'it is not personal discussion,it is overall overwiew' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'overview' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'you think this was maybe what it was like, when moses came down with those tablets?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Who is this Moses?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mozenwrath: 'dont mind my mischannel' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'How do you feel about a computer game where your playing character can become defunct,crippled and get a frail health being throughts a fights,instead of grow-up hp ?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'That would be interesting, Avram.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'And such game will provide total reviews on players habits,isn't it ?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I'm not sure what you mean.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'But you reconsider fighting wolf pack,for example,in such game,doesn't you ?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'I would consider fighting that even here.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'Yes,it is! And this should be an 'mind untwisting' game.' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Your point is ...?' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'consider it is just a discussion of idea. it had nothing to do with MUDs,of course' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'ok,i had to go,RL. See you later,everyone ! bye!' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'HEh' T3/r7/2016-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) In Cide: 'there is this channel' T3/r7/2016-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'There is two weeks remaining until US president election' T3/r7/2016-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'US need 9 mil $ to upgrade their nuclear arsenal. or is it 90$?' T3/r7/2016-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'the US ICCBM use GPS for aiming. lamers,those missiles rain down back by interceptors.' T3/r7/2016-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'not to mention one funny thing - while ICCBM traverse thru Western Europe,they can be intercepted and used to wipe out part of EU,nicely. case of concern for EU members... :D' T3/r7/2016-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Avram: 'in case of nuclear war between Eastern Europe and US,EU will be catched between. Not a nice position,even with AMD defences...' T3/r7/2016-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Manjushri: 'Master' T3/r7/2016-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'During the US presidential debates why can't they shut off the mic of the one not asked to speak? I think it is a simple button push.' T3/r7/2016-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'obama was condemning the crackdown on the crackheads in the phillipeans.. Filipino mayor among 10 dead in clash with anti-drug police http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/filipino-mayor-among-10-dead-in-clash-with-anti-drug-police/ar-AAjuA2A?li=AA524b&ocid=spartandhp no updates on the mayor of mexico city who made all the students disappear, with his hawt cartel wife' T3/r7/2016-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i heard of hundreds of thousands of deaths as religion took over half that island and turned it into allahland, over the last ten years, always wondered why if true, it never made the news' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'what's more of a 'hate' crime, bugs bunny counting off the indians but redacting the half breed, or hillary duff's 'inappropriate' halloween costume, which was intentionally put out there to be ignorant against native americans, though she says otherwise? http://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/hilary-duff-halloween-costume-1.3828097' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'injun joe is ticklish!' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'mel gibson'll never live down the oven-dodger comment, but it's fine to provoke instead of react?' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'nothing inappropriate about hillary's costume (other than the pantsless part for the prudish)' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'pilgrims are historical figures, as are indians' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'is dressing up as a pilgrim an offensive action to some group?' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you could call it racist if he was an indian who was drunk and disorderly' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'no drinking lysol quips' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'the pair of their costumes was the redskin copulating with european immigration' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'that's the meaning of it' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'redskins DID copulate with european immigrants...' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so again, still nothing racist about it' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'go rent pocahontas :-)' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i read somewhere that she was held prisoner on sable island in new brunswick' T3/r7/2016-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i don't think she chose who porked her, it's a horse habitat now, cool place' T3/r7/2016-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'a followup on the hillary duff costume, which was part of american heritage -> Denton, who is white, covered his skin with black paint. In other words, he dressed in blackface. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/halloween/this-years-offensive-costume-white-college-student-dresses-as-bill-cosby-in-blackface/ar-AAjENX5?li=AAacUQk&ocid=spartandhp' T3/r7/2016-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i think they call this comparative criminal justice, except that term's applied to different countries' T3/r7/2016-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'people don't mind at all that african witchdoctors dress in 'whiteface' and turn albino and whithe body parts into magic ingredients though' T3/r7/2016-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'feminist logic applied to racism, it's my skin i'll do what i want with it' T3/r7/2016-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'moscow's newspaper had an article in 1991 about american homosexuals floating to russia in condom's while it was building a new subway system, yuri bezmenov said western education has been in control of the KGB since the 1960's, A new toolkit to assist Alberta teachers with LGBTQ discussions is being slammed by critics for suggesting drag shows could be staged in schools and students be addressed as "comrades" rather than boys and girls.  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/should-drag-shows-be-used-as-a-teaching-tool-in-alberta-schools-1.3830417' T3/r7/2016-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'o_0 named justin trudeau's brother? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Yakovlev_(Russian_politician) 'the two oldest political parties in canada are the communists and the liberals', difference = ?' T3/r7/2016-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'canadian legalized assisted suicide legislation following after belgium, as i said it would 8 years ago, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/assisted-dying-mentally-ill-1.3829839' T3/r7/2016-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'with that foreign affairs minister of czechoslovakia's dalai lama conspiracy with their president, i wouldn't put that irony out of the free trade agreement with europe trudeau just signed with belgium's great survivor's and the neighbourhood that held out on it :p' T3/r7/2016-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/belgian-euthanasia-doctors-seek-answers-at-auschwitz-a-1003441.html <-> http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-eu-ceta-walloons-vote-what-now-1.3805194 <-> http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/george-brady-canadian-holocaust-czech-republic-1.3826096' T3/r7/2016-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'collective logic deduction of god's peculiar people' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'If Donald Trump is elected, will the economy tank? This is tonight's debate question. Ready Player 1.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tinada shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'The mere suggestion that Trump is gaining has decreased the Dow Jones by 5% in the past week. Counter?' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'investors, in general, and business, in general, dislike change' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'trump represent change, hillary the status quo' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Jones is snorting some bad granola.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'the same bullshit happened before obama' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'so, i call non-sequitor' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Under Obama the Dow raised 200%' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'wrong reference - check leading up to the election' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'If Trump is elected, and policies are changed in accordance with his published plans, multinationals and the finance sector is likely to end up with higher taxes and tariffs.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'That will not happen' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'it's not knowable until it happens... it's likely, but not forgone' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'that very situation yields the sell off' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'US Government is a built in stalemate' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'And a swamp.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i thought it was built on lobbyist manipulation' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'whatever it is, it's the all powerful thing that absolves you, the individual, of any responsibility' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'amirite?!' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Nothing does that but death' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Failurette Noegel clutches at her chest and falls over dead. T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'mere mortals can only claim responsiblity for their limited sphere of influence' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Whether Trump's policies are "good for the economy", depends on your time/space perspective.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'I have surefire influence over my kittens and a roach I killed last night! ' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'kill the kitten, fine, but those poor roaches :(' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The roaches have a nice motel to stay in.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'drink a fish house while you're at it' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'that We have to pay for! ' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'trump reminds me of those youtubers you can pay, to say what you want.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'or am i thinking of flicker' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'fiver? something stupid' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'dafuq is flicker?' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Failurette Noegel laffs at Scars. T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Like the FBI Lead, a meager civil servant, was paid prolly ten times his salary to sell oy=t' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'he just seems phony to me, and not very bright. not that hilary would be any better' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'it would just be nice to have respect for the person in office, even if i disagree with their policy agenda' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'and i feel like it's lose-lose here' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Taeryn goes to play in the sand. T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Who is the most intelligent president we have ever had, and who is running for president? His wife. Get educated.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Failurette Noegel: 'education is for smart people unlike me! ' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'i think the worst vegetable is okra' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'mis' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'No, it is brocolini. Brocolli rocks' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'OK, add mashed Taeryn to the list of nasty veggies' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'meanwhile, can a man who fondles his grown daughter and laughs about it be the USA President?' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'can a man get a handjob from his cousin and be president?' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Only if they are alredy in office' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'the way things are going - that makes him even more qualified' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Scars laughs out loud. T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'For the record, I did not see Voldimort on my ballot' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Because he was born in Britain.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'another birther movement?!' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'For the record, I did not see Sauron on my ballot' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Also British/' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'probably french' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Which candidate will nuke Britain?' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'Putin?' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'the ghost of george washington is running, I think he's in the whig party' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'At any rate, my point is clear. More than any USA election, this is a clear and earnest decision between good and evil.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'please identify the good?' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'HILLARY!' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Donald Trump never progressed beyond a BA degree, despite all the time, luxury, and money at his disposal.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Because Trump thinks he is a fucking know it all!' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tinada: 'Neither did my brother, who is the smartest person I know - halfway through the degree he gave up on learning something from his professors..' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Granted. Smart is smart. Smart is not educated or informed.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Demonstrated over and over and over. The man is totally clueless of the domain he wants to become master of.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'thats it, burn it all down. We will start fresh in the morning' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'And he will not listen to advisors, and has no patience to learn.' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica lights the molotov and tosses it T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there are always two kinds of people. get over it! ! !' T3/r7/2016-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'trump perfectly combines the stupidity of bush, and the opportunism of cheney, wrapped in the charm of a high school pep rally' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'typing for so many people is easier than learning to play the piano for so many music students' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'since both skills require imprinting muscle memory, I don't see why that is the case.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'or, tendon memory :)' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Or eye movement if you are unable to type.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i dont know either but there is a case' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'well, typing a word properly doesnt require any special timing, plus there's 2x as many keys' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Or use a speech-to-text program.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'piano has much less keys than a 101 kb' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'piano repeats. it only has 12 keys' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it may not require special timing, but it does require timing. So the question is there a timing skill or is there is a skill for each timing?' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'how many letters in the alphabet' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taveris: 'i am blind and play piano for me keyboard is way easier' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'it may be easier, but I don't think the skill involved is to blame.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it might repeat but there's till 88 of them, unmarked, so image a keyboard with upper and lowercase keys on it' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'actually, they are marked. A piano player uses pattern recognition which include the bounds of the piano.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taveris: 'you cannot reay say piano has 12 keys' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: '3 or 4 times as wide, and sometimes u have to hold down capital D when ur spelling commander' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'piano is much easier than kb. thats a fact' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taveris: 'you cannot really say piano has 12 keys' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'you can' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i can' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'because it has' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'there's a pattern but there's no letter on the keys like on a keyboard, and it's only 26 letters to learn really' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'anyone can learn how to play the piano, most of us have the necessary equipment and ability. The question is, how good can any of us be?' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'and that trusty spacebar u get to mash like a retard' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taveris: 'oh and your left and right hand play complete different stuff' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you can ask the same question about running or driving or hitting golf balls.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'but running and driving are easy' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i dont think ur harboring an appropiate appreciation of skillz m8' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'Taveris, the human brain can accomplish many things including playing two different staffs with each hand. If you think that is complex, behold the fighter pilot in a dogfight.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'not to belittle what a piano player does, it is extraordinary. What we forget is that our brains are extraordinary :)' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: '2 staffs is easy only if its familiar. you need to read twice and type slowly to get "njolp pfak fah" right' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'only the first few times :)' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'you aught to watch a chinese, japanese or korean typist using a phone keyboard :)' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'ought*' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'or for that matter an English speaker using the phone keyboard in gesture mode.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'simply amazing.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'what living beings, humans in particular, can do is beyond belief, you have to see it :)' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'whatever that "big thing" would be, its just something above the average' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'yes, it would be. But average is just a line :) There are a lot of people above average :)' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'they certainly are not a majority but they are a significant minority.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'an average person can do plenty. and average piano player can awe if theres some inspiration. much more than a uber genius supermega player can.' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'like trump does now' T3/r7/2016-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exiled To Aphelion: 'everyone of us has moments, there are expressions to describe this momemts, "in the groove", "unconscious", "going with the flow". The brain goes from beta to alpha while the person is performing a task and the task is performed flawlessly and with flair. ' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Awww shit, here we go!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'yes, very soon' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Trump won my two states' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Hillary won the maple syrup vote.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Maine right?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'No, Vermont. Damn!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I am makig pancakes in cerebration' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'zomg, why didn't i plan for that! sounds so good' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i have maple syrup, but no bisquick' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'You did not cerebrate in advance. I has blueberries' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I has frozen of those with some raspberries too. can add some sugar, make a fun syrup' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Robbo: 'She won Canada?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Oh Canada!!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Is there really no political talk going on? It's election Day.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'its the nervous waiting time.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I expected the Debate channel to be spammed.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Not really nervous. People are getting drunk in anticipation of not caring.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'unfortunately most of the chatter is over on imm' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Chatter about Politics?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Yup.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Nothing to SPAM here. All is as expected. Only the media hype led anyone to believe Hillary would not win from the outset.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'You people want to hear my prediction?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'sure' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'nah' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'My prediction is that nobody will get 270 electoral votes' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Only has happened once, I think it will happen today.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'it was weird when I checked on the internet and found the betting odds in the UK' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Yea, you bet on everything there' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'But I think House of Representitaves will choose Trump if it goes to them' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Whether I like it or not.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Hilary might get the popular vote, though, that's not unlikely.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Was hoping one of these West Virgian militias would take them both out, throw a huge wrench in the whole system.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'There is zero doubt she will get both the popular vote (not by much) and the Electoral College (by a lot).' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Really? I'm expecting Trump to win in Electoral College?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'I hope you-all bought her swimsuit calendar. She's such a cheeky little thing. Only she could get away with that and still run for President.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Those pant suits, new fetish!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Men get Hillary, Women get Kim Jung Un.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: '...?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'You never noticed she dresses like the North Korean dictator?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Woah. You're right.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Kim is just misunderstood. He likes people. Just not live ones. Or ones who fall asleep when he is talking. Or ones that run turtle farms without enough political pictures on the walls.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Oh I love Kim! I've said it a few times this week, just google North Korean subways. They're freaking amazing!! Pyongyang is a fantastic beautiful place. I can't speak outside of that, but then again I can't speak outside of our major cities either.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'That HAIRCUT. MArvellous. Nothing says detached from reality like a haircut shaped like a fruit bowl. He does his thing and doesn't care a jot. What's not to like about Kim? Oh...wait...' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'A little dimple in the middle of his forehead would be very stylish with that hair.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Well if I am not mistaken, you can choose from one of 15 haircuts in NK.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Let me find the poster, one sec.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Too many choices make people indecisive.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: '28 hair cuts - http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/25/these-are-north-koreas-28-state-approved-hairstyles/' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Which is smart to me, makes his country like The Sims :)' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'The Kims!!!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'And he can set any of them on fire and they will praise him as a god!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'As they should. He doesn't have an anus you know, he's too busy working to poop.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Inflammable hair gel is not optional' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'I don't see Kim's haircut on that site. Must be a special one for tyrants (who also have a flair for killing people with anti-aircraft guns or wild dogs)' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I watched a documentary where an eye doctor gave several dozen umm.... not sure of word but safe surgury to help blind koreans due to glocomoa or something. Each one was in a room with bandages and one by one, they come on the stage, remove bandages, see the dear leader, and they begin thanking him, saying htey'll work harder now, crying etc. Not a single one of them thanked the doctor.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Do you see Trump's hairstyle at SuperCuts?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I think they concluded that the wild dogs thing didn't happen, but they think the anti-aircraft thing did.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Oh shit, Trump may have won Ohio. Now I'm kinda freaking out and wished I didn't vote for him.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'you voted for trump?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Shit's gettin' real.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'gtfo imo' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I just wanted to vote so I could bitch later. Can't bitch if you don't vote.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and a first time voter :)' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'could vote third party and be in a position to bitch no matter what' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'we didn't have that option in indiana' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'johnson nor that lady got on the ballot' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Cyna, you may have helped to end the world as we know it.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'he had ballot access in all 50 states?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Apologies: Cytan.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Well whip out your old R.E.M. cassette, turn it up to 11, and rip the knob off!!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'no' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'the fact that they'd be on the ticket was a big speaking platform for gary johnson' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'fascinating' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'it was just trump and clinton' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'very strange imo' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and i had to draw an line to form an arrow' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'which amazed me. you'd think it we'd be more sophisticated than that.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'well holy shit' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'just saw a few articles... he had approval and then lost it in some states' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'god our system is a steaming pile of shit' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'I would have bet the Brits would never have exited Europe, the cultured and well-spoken lot that they are. Was I wrong. ' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'actually you may be right scars, he did get votes (almost 4%). so maybe he was on it, i don't remember. i just remember being excited to vote for first time *shrug*' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'ffs man' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'you had ONE job' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'could have not voted at all :(' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'Johnson and his running-mate, former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld, were nominated by the party in May. But Ohios recent change to minor party laws means the Libertarians in this state had to reapply as a party by collecting more than 30,000 signatures. The partys spokesperson Aaron Harris says that would cost too much money. So instead, theyre working to get Johnson on the ballot in Ohio as an independent candidate.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'ffs guys' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'ohio is a piece of shit' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'STFU dude, they have an IKEA and Jungle Jims.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and you can open carry without a license :P' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i'd have a nice old shotgun in a pickup truck window if i lived there.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'This is like the World Series (or the NFL Championships). Not a damn thing matters until Game 7 when the West Coast votes.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'so much lol' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'So. We need better commercials, a halftime show with costume malfunctions and Bruno Mars, etc.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'florida to clinton' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'NJ, RH, FL, etc., etc., etc.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'rich people states' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Damn skippy, and educated because of that.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan winks at Oak Tender Arnica. T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'yea, so in penn' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: '55% democrat 41% republican on college graduates, 48%/49% no college' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Last election Rommey won college educated whites by 15%, the projection was Hillary wining by 10%' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Myth: 'bill gates falls into the second category' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan snickers with Myth about their shared secret. T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Myth: 'one way to fix elections is to assign each citizen a weight equal to the amount of federal taxes they paid over the past 4 years, with a minimum (for those who paid nothing or took money from govenment) equal to standard deduction' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vost: 'that would certainly "fix" elections' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Failurette Noegel cackles gleefully at Vost. T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: '"Fix" you mean "rig" or "correct"?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'To correct the election, votes should be allocated based on number of rockets developed and launched. That wouldbe a fair integration of intelligence and productivity.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Myth: 'are suggesting all votes should be given out to putin?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'OMG!! Florida is close like it has been for many election cycles!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Woohoo! Madigan puppet Duckworth projected to win the senate seat for Illinois! Go puppetry!' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'My very last- So here is the deal. When Hillary is elected, Bill Clinton must take on the onus of reversing the backwards nature of their home state grounds. A Literacy at Work study, published by the Northeast Institute in 2001, found that business losses attributed to basic skill deficiencies run into billions of dollars a year due to low productivity, errors, and accidents attributed to functional illiteracy. And this illiteracy is the only thing that explains the ability of Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh to brainwash such an enormous percentage of the population on their Trump advertising based fool's errand.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Little Marco was re-elected? re-elected re-elected?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'sperm spitting idiot' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Rubio is a wlking condom advertisement' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'damn, you look at some sttes and find names of candidates you just never heard of. like rocky de la fuente and evan mcmullin' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he looks fucked... http://youtu.be/GXDHvfkYAz4' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'err https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Roque_De_La_Fuente_(cropped).jpg/220px-Roque_De_La_Fuente_(cropped).jpg' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'evan mcmullin is the mormons saying that trump is too vile for utah' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'check out that de la fuete. looks like if putin had a stroke ( know thats so wrong but it does ! )' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'last picture on https://www.rocky2016.com/meet-rocky - that's a mafia family if i've ever seen one.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Drumpf: 'MAKE AMERIKKKA GREAT AGAIN' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'trump takes ohio' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'How is it that Clinton has won the 5 votes for New Mexico with only 46% reported?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'trump is kicing some ass' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: 'Is it that the votes across all the precincts are added up and there is too much of a gap for the unreported precincts to reverse the result?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'So we're going to have to listen to donald trump, about donald trump, etc. for 4 more years folks. throw out your televisions, pick up a book.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Feveron: 'good advice in any political climate :)' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'wonder if this has to do with the oval office blowjob?' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Caramel Milkshake: 'I wonder if I will lose my federal marriage benefits now' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Caramel Milkshake: 'my husband is an immigrant and I wonder if I will be able to get him a green card now.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I doubt it will be a problem if you are a citizen.' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Imparsable HazeKnight: 'I'm sure Canada will take any sane citizen of the US' T3/r7/2016-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Imparsable HazeKnight snickers softly. T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'riots tomorrow?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'm sick of the winning already, all it took was one..trump was right, i'm tired of it' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'rudy guliana SoS, steve banan cheif of staff, chris christy atto general.. shit show in full motion lol' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i assume kellyann conway for press sec, another 4 years of "what trump ment when he launched those bombs was.."' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'no way is chris christie getting ag... Maybe white house chief of staff, but he'll never get through senate confirmation' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'he'll get a senior position, no doubt, but I don't think you'll see him as ag.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'yah fair point' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'maybe same deal with rudy 9/11' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'yeah.. he's another one.. personally i don't want to see either one of them as ag.. I'd much prefer someone with a more libertarian outlook' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'obama started with all 3 too..and he didnt do shit with it..' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'Did I miss the election debates already?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'months ago' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Biden 2020!!' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'darn, I haven't figured out who I am voting for yet though..' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'just write in Harambe' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '50% of america decided not to vote' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I was thinking I would nominate my keyboard' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'How about vermin supreme?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'make clan made equiptment great again!' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'Make code formating great again!' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'Make Debate great again' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'only starling can do that' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'http://abelinc.me/harambe' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'so has anyone read President Elect Trump's new pdf of his Contract with the American Voter that documents his first 100 day plan?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'it's pretty interesting' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Didn't know there was one.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'hell open fort knox and give all gold to peasants?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'imagine every american being a millionaire.. for 2 years' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'wait.. where is your gold pile_' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'yeah. fort knoxÖ=' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'the first column is actually really reasonable to me. it unfortunately goes off the rails when he's like "and we're gonna start dumping more radioactive coal pollution into the air because 'clean coal' isn't actually clean at all"' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'wait. its 180bil.. that makes each amerian a billionaire almost' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'heh, he's giving CPR to the keystone pipeline project' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'my math is beered' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'anyway. he won with soap drama tricks. ' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'it was a solid santa barbara performance' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but it was a win...' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I think popularily it was a tie' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): You sure are agreeable today. T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'well. he likes people with no education. there is a quote somewhere..' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'it was within 80k when I stopped looking for popular vote' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'it's over that, but not significantly as a percentage of total voters' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'last I checked HRC was ahead in popular vote by about 160k' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'so 0.16% ' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'or something like that. let me check' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yeah, google page shows HRC up by 194k' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: '194,500 ahead out of 124,714,860 total' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'it's about 0.00155' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'i still loved the popular vote in DC' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'that's because everyone who lives in DC is black' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'of course they didn't vote for him' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'the crazy thing is that you have these states like Wisconsin, where it was called for trump, where the measured statewide difference was like 20k' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'our nazi party person said he it was a white men's protest vote. btw, they cheered for trump. so did those Putin's minions.. its all topsyturvy.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: '20k on 3 million voters' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'DC is only 50% black. If you assume every black person in DC voted clinton, that means more than 80% of the remaining ethnicities did, too.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'and I'm like y'all seriously didn't find any disenfranchised voters in _wisconsin_?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): The Jerk Fiendish pats Izocinoc on his head. T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'apparently california legalized recreational weed yesterday' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'They knew the outcome of the election was going to be bad regardless and wanted to be high the rest of their lives.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'so did some other states' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'so. are there any big evil marijuana companies already in US_' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'their coming.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'their already making some synthetic weed shit' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'there's pennsylvania too. difference of 50k on 5.5 million voters' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'fbi selectively raids private weed sellers. they'll have it all incorporated before long' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'you know that's lower than the margin of error' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'lower than the margin of error if it were a poll' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'vote counting has a nonzero margin of error' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'what is it?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'god in the previous election it was as high as 2 or 3$' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: '%' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'let's assume it's much lower this year *cough*' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'but it's not lower than 1%' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'not overall' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'any information on that? It's hard to believe that 2-3 of every 100 votes could be miscounted' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'one second' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'when I search for it I just find information of margin of error in polling' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it's all a sham. theres no need to be upset.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'that's what i keep telling myself.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'sorry, 2% https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120202151713.htm' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'ah, that's specifically for hand counts, which still feels high but might make sense' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'I wonder what the rate is when you consider issues with voting by mail, issues with voters filling out the form improperly, issues with the scanners that read the ballots, etc' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Izocinoc: 'I guess there are a lot of places where it can mess up' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'issues with electronic machines not working properly' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: '(issues with voter intimidation)' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Izocinoc nods. T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'issues with republican local officials distributing false information about closing times' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'ahaha' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'their going old school' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'distributing that false information to heavily democrat areas of course' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'anyway, even if you were to correct for all of the shenanigans, you'd still have a vote that is basically a tie' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'star wars vs marvel?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'which is more geeky?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'id have to say star wars as its more niche, marvel appeals to a wider audience i think unless youre talking about actual comic books' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rincewind: 'Perry Rhodan ftw!' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'no, im kinda into those youtube fan stories' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'neither. it's all mainstream crap now.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'ive never read any comics about either of those:(' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'anyone watched chand vader on youtube?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Chad Vader' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrNIKE9_IiM' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rincewind: 'It's the most successful science fiction book series ever written.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rincewind: 'with two billions sold magazines.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rincewind: 'And yet it's pretty geeky.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'marvel is nice too but there is that dude who melts mountains with those lazers from his eyes. thats not believeable' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i dont mean superman' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: '(you should watch that video. you'll love it.)' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'batman has never been a cool char' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'You take that back sir.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'maybe you've never seen the right batman' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'there are a lot of variations on batman' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'wait, define cool umpa' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_versions_of_Batman' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'they always picked the most uptight pricks to play them' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'their all wearing tight underwear.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you think of the movie versions of them as the character?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you poor thing.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i know' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I liked keaton' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i grew up watching all the classic 90s cartoons.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Umpalumpa points at you. How rude! T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'one cool one' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you didn't like when christian bale was rattling the cages, with that completely overdone voice ? :P' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'the most canonical motion batman is from the tv animated series' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'WHEREIZHE' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'ive liked bale in one movie and it wasnt equilibrium.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'and sure not batman' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'what do you like umpa.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'whats that one movie you always get excited to see again' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'which tv animated series?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'empire of the sun' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'wow, there's one I haven't seen in years' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'when bale was a wee lad' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you like anything exciting? with action in it?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'wait.. this was for what do you like umpa.'' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'what do you mean which animated series? Batman the Animated Series' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it's a good movie, but it was boring.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Animated_Series' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well there have been many tv animated series of batman...' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'gozilla:)' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'gojira! gojira' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'this is a great video about producing the theme song for batman the animated series... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge5HZuKd9Bc' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'there were some great shows back then. i miss em' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'just classic shit. no agenda pushing, no progressive bullshit. just good fuckin shows.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'thx, Fiendish:)' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'listening to this recording of makes me want to watch the cartoon again' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'l' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'No political talk going on here, eh?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Nah. Watching a live feed of people marching through Chicago in protests.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'protest?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'What are they protesting about' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Chicago is heavy Democrat.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'Do you all think that the legalization of cannabis will ring in the end of the drug war federally?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'im watching the comedy store end of the world podcast they did while the election was going on' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'there's plenty of other illegal stuff' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'My question is why did more states, such as AZ, where I reside, deside to increase minimum wage to 12 dollars?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'ppl are stupid.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Especially CO. How would they pay for their weed now?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'It's like people didn't think about voting for minimum wage increase. They thought: "Oh yeah, increase minimum wage, that'll help those who work at McDonalds. Yeah, yeah, I'll vote yes on that"' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: '"Huh, more money for me? well no need to consider the ramifications of that, i want more money"' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'seems like there's been a consorted effort to limit opportunities for lower middle america' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'i like pudding' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Raising minimum wage doesn't even help the people on minimum wage. They have to pay more too!' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'they usually do that, to indirectly swell the military ranks, before they start a war somewhere' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I'm actually kinda suprised that AZ voters didn't pass marijuana' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'guess there's a lot of traditionalists out there' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Yeah, that must be it.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I don't quite know if I'm for or against marijuana myself.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'only medical got past in a few states. wasn't california the only one to legalize it for recreation?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'CA, NV, ME' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I think ME. Might have been medical' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Medical marijuana has been in AZ for a while now, though' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i'm for freedom. but i dont want any druggies around me' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Yeah, ME did, as well as MA' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'if weed sells stay local, and small business owners aren't raided by the feds, it'll be great' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i can just seen those corporate gargoyles perched and waiting to ruin it, worse than they did to tobacco.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'just see*' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'What state do you currently live in?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'the peach state' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Ahhh' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'What did Georgia recently vote on?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'cannabis users arent druggies' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'you interact with them daily and dont know it' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Huh?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'same as everyone. schools cig taxes, etc' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'no, i know it. they wont shut up about it' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'and anyone can be a druggie. it's the use pattern, not the vice itself' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'im sure there are plenty of ppl who use it, and their cool. but those aren't the ones causing problems' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I know anyone could be a druggie, I said "huh" at Theodicy's first statement' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'lots of people use cannabis to self medicate for issues they would otherwise be addicted to painkillers, benzodiazapines, or antidepressants for' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'there are lots of loser potheads, for sure' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'but lots of us have good jobs and lead normal lives and pay our taxes' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'id just rather not be addicted to vicodin for my bad leg' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'yeah. i'm with you bro. i listen to rogan, i've been clued in' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'sorry. i grew up in the midwest. i feel like i constantly have to speak about stuff' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i grew up with the "just say no' campaign in my ear. i never knew there were two types of weed or anything about it. ended up addicted to video games because i didnt appreciate the danger of 'addiction'' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'yeah man that drug war fucked people up' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'which is what they should teach. but they dont really want you to know anything' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'their just training kids to become good consumers.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'You'd say video games are addicting?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'they can be. any activity can become an addiction - if the person is susceptible.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'they totally are' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i kept my eye on drugs, alcohol, cigarettes etc, but i never guarded myself on my own play time' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'rip supreme court, dep of education, womens rights, climate change, obama care, dreamers..' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Yeah, I don't see many people who'd I say are addicted to video games. They, and I, just play them in downtime' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'that's because they dont leave the house tico.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I don't really find video games to be addicting either, I'd just rather waste my time playing them rather than watching TV, etc.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Which is still a waste of time, TV.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'the test is, to see if you feel any anxiety or anger when you can't play' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Yeah, not really.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i remember the T1 connection went down in the computer lab one day, and me and my friends were like junkies in need of a fix.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'angry. yelling a bit. looking back it was a clear sign of addiction.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'A computer lab? Was it some LAN center or something?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'college' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'You'd play video games on those?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'just let me program my own CNS' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'all the time' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'jack me in and let me tune out' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'What games?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'starcraft, everquest, tribes. rune. half life' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'we were the cause of many limitations on freedoms in that lab' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i mean, not all of us let it really fuck up their grades, but a few of us did' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I've seen that first-hand. Are you still allowed to install any software on them?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'oh probably not. but we had an inside man' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Inside man?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'he'd graduated, and he was incharge of the lab as a monitor, so he copied the files onto a public drive that all the computers had access to ' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'so from there, you could just put the games on any computer in the lab you wanted. ' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'there was a lot of cat and mouse games being played with the other monitors deleting our files, us putting them back in different places. ' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I hate to see schools who block a whole bunch of websites.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I've seen middle school districts that block Google Images, and they already block keywords such as "naked" and "porn"' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'haha' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'well.. i mean they blocked nothing back then' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it was glorious' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'then the perverts came. ppl jacking off right in front of ppl' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'That's an addiction right there,' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you can say that again. pfft, imagine being that far gone' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I don't think I would want to start jacking off to porn in front of a whole bunch of people. Was this before everyone had an internet connection at home?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it was like.. right around when DSL was getting popular' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'but yeah not everyone had it yet' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I'm sure many already had dial-up, though' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'and the college had a T1.. i mean' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'When did DSL start getting popular? I'm really forgetting all of this.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i just looked it up' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'dsl started being sold in 1997' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Yeah, I think I got DSL in 1999 or 2000.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'Then I still have it.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i was so glad to get rid of dsl and get cable internet' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'What for? Other people's traffic on a Friday night?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it was just faster.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'What speeds are you getting right now with cable?' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'dsl in my area topped out at like 99, 120kb/s cable started at 250kb. right now i'm on like some 2mb connection' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i mean back then' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ticonderoga: 'I was talking about right now.' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'trump will give us tapped gigabit fiber associated with out national IDs' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'http://imgur.com/gallery/c4jt321' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'make downloads great again' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'make downloads great again' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'dang it' T3/r7/2016-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Theodicy: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hahaha: 'im absolutely terrified of snakes in real life, yet im absolutely in love to watch them on tv, some one care to explain this human reaction ?' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'do you tend to have your coworkers in your facebook?' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'not my immediate co-workers, but my extended.' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'asking cus thats the reason for not getting account there.. id hate to see their faces all the time and they would be offended if i rejected their um.. "friendship"' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Fetard: 'Nope. I have a hard rule about not having co-workers be facebook friends. ' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'never mix friendship and business.' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'eh. there are still dozens of people who i dont want to encounter.. fuck facebook:)' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i rather pay for those concert tickets:)' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'hm. these tricks - putting less stuff into your product to avoid rising prices, is it a new thing in western world?' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'it was a common practice in soviet states' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'sometimes you got to buy a match box with 20 matches in it:)' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'its very common' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I can give you an example. one sec.' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'a couple of examples actually' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/03/grocery-products-shrinking-your-very-eyes/349168/' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'http://www.squawkfox.com/consumer-spending/' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'http://www.neatorama.com/2008/11/11/the-incredible-shrinking-peanut-butter-jar/' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'http://www.chocablog.com/news/cadbury-admits-creme-egg-shrinkage/' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'seems recent.' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/11/outrage-as-cadburys-creme-eggs-packs-get-smaller-5018266/' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I must say, I do love your name Umpalumpa hehe :)' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'it's only recent that people notice' T3/r7/2016-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'im a bitter old man. Umpalumpa is just a cover.' T3/r7/2016-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Confounded CeriQ: 'Ok, so I'm a few days late to the party, but wth did you guys do?' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'TPP is likely dead says the news, isn't that wonderful?' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'those chinese gulag death camps and little tibetan fingers being cut off for not producing enough electronics are dead in teh water' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'mayor of mexico city murders students for protesting under the supervision of his drug cartel wife's father and mexico's president thinks he's in a position to halt negotiations' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i think them latino's do well on their own, maybe they can join BRICS' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'NAFTA being opposed by trump could hurt the auto industry in ontario, oh no, make your own parts slimy bitches, burn down quebec/ontario and canada's a nice place' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'besides the jamaican cocaine cultural enrichments in winnipeg and stuff, they can go' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'half of us voted for trump. thats what you should worry the most' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i don't worry at all, i wish i was alive back when hunters had to get off their ass and kill their own supper' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i think it's great, i love chaos' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'not 'half of us', only 'half of those who voted'' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'good thing the electoral college is under fire too, having to defend itself' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'its not chaos. its worse' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I liked the one tweet that said: "I hope Donald Trump is a goof president. Wanting him to fail is like wanting the pilot to crash the plane that we are all on"' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'shows that somebody warned them against not listening to the popular vote, then looked ahead to the next elections and said by t hen things will have died down' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'good*' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the electoral college doesn't need to defend itself. The electoral college did listen to the popular vote' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'they don't do their thing until Dec right' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'then why is there a few news articles floating around released today about their place in 'democratic elections'' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'odd thing for them to bring up since they're not feeling any heat' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'because those news articles have been circulating for 200 years' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'there is no way Putin will not take advantage of your election.' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: ''Majority rule' not the only path to democracy, defenders of U.S. electoral college say http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-electoral-college-1.3846924' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'every election it's like people are learning how this shit works for the first time' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'putin hopes to get the sanctions lifted so he can get re-elected in 2018' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'i think i should pile up some dried beans and fill my berlingo. buy gas.. buy gps' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i like putin, russia gets along fine in tajikistan, armenia and azerbaijan, along with syria - their war on terror is a little more efficient, don't you think?' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'and im half-serious even this time:)' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'turkey out, egypt in - new nato plan, i like egypt, it has balls' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'it booted those isis scum that cut off all the coptic christians heads in libya out' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'my boss is egyptian...he called the election for trump 6 months ago' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'im afraid that in 10 years, many contracts will be scrapped.' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'it has already started here. they are redoing taxes now. and planning to take loans for the state. lefties' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'until world war 2 (in the midst) americans, the majority, weren't allowed to vote' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'read that in my bathroom reader' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'maybe not enough old people are around to show people how it's done' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i can guarantee you'd never find a korean war veteran from australia/america any of the allies that is in favour of the TPP' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'unless they got corrupted over time or their children are made wealthy from the predictably corrupt system, offspring are always a major bargaining tool' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'war veterans are used by teh government kind of like they're used by saul goodman in his patriotic commercial - that was just a demented old man who wanted some extra money though - same thing applies, alot of repentant soldiers from ww2 too, saying 'this sucks' but they weren't volunteers' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'what's better about the turks, russians and chinese than the japanese and nazi's?' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'they don't mention the masses of death to compare against what's bad about them? that's about it - pop culture and pseudo history taught in school, don't include mao's great leap forward or the current situation of tibetans in china, instead, teach your children to speak mandarin, cause if you lost you'd be speaking german now' T3/r7/2016-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mithridatic: 'i'm off anyways, good things coming' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'can you sue the corkscrew maker for piercing through your thumb with it? there was no warning on the device' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'who dislikes?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Who or What is the subject of dislike' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean, there are just brilliant stuff with that 1% of dislikes. who are they?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'If it is only 1% of dislike, and 99% like, then yea, it's brilliant by definition.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its a mystery' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Is this a debate or a god damn vocabulary lesson??' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its a debate' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Oh. Well then yes, I debate that if something is liked by 99% and disliked by 1%, then its brilliant. And since it will come up, 100% like is perfect.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'are those 1% always the same people?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'No.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I really hope your drunk or coming up with a "blew my mind philosophical epiphany" Hwuaijijal because I really like Bard, and this is pissing me off :P' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'this "high hope" song, its a bloody good song. so, are those disliking people thinking that this song should be erased?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'You mean the "He's got Hiiigghhhh Hopes. He's got, Hiiiigggghhh Hops..." song?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'no, that pink floyd song. ' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I know a lot of floyd but not that one I don't think one sec.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'THey're a hit or miss. SOmetimes you have to be old/mature enough, or high enough to really appreciate it. When I was younger, didn't get Comfortably Numb. 28, got it.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'One sec, need to listen.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'so listening, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jMlFXouPk8, 16.5m views and 1.8% dislikes.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and while I think it sounds pretty great/interesting, I'd argue that the 1.8% matches the 1.8% of people who have never smoked weed in their life.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'wouldn't blair it, but would put cans on and listen in a dark room *nod*' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Know what it really needs?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its not perfect but it doesn't deserve a dislike' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Gotta remember people like Justin Beiber. You cannot, and this is a 100% fact - CANNOT - like both Justin Beiber and Pink Floyd.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'what about miley?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'So some butthole Belieber came along, found this, and said "oh, its hippy shit and it sucks"' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'because adore is about the best song that happened that year.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'are you guys discussing youtube comments?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Look, name names. My personal, but honest, opinion is that no good music has occured since the last Tool album was released, 10,000 Days. The last year for fantastic music was 1997, and I'd even go so far to argue it was 1993 - that year was AMAZING music.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'imo plenty of good songs have been made. the wrapping is off putting' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'shitty bands can make good songs. but the hate is stronger nowadays' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'It's one of my signs of getting older (I'm not too old - 33), but music after I graduated HS has gone down. What was leading up to it? Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, Brittany SPears, to Staind (pussy breakup music) and Disturbd (the fact I can identify you by the crazy monkey laugh drives me nuts).' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Foo Fights is one of the few bands still out there that has done really, really great.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'But a 90's band.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'One of the few that still exist.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'no life song from that brat.. it smahed the box what kept all the god songs in shape' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its all this and that' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'what brat?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there was plenty of great songs coming from shitty bands before 2000.. now all the groups can have technicians and producers from hell AND heaven working on their songs. there are good and bad songs coming all the time. the wrapping can be off-putting.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'It's opinion and generational, I'm sure. But I mean... there is no music from 2010's I care for, 2000's, very few. 1990's was my time, 1980's I've come to really respect, and 1970's I've come to also respect through age/maturity. ' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I'm sure someone 10 years youger is 10 years different.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'there's plenty of crappy or sappy songs you may love because you heard then when you were young.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Sure - I mean, there was one that I was obsessed with not too long ago I wouldn't normally look twice at. Skeeter something.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'there's plenty of crap 90's music. their just learning that perfect formula to cash in on tweens and teens. it isnt really surprising they keep cranking that lever.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it's like the mcdonalds of music. kids love it until they get some fucking taste - but some never do.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Skeeter Davis - not my era, is sappy. But I got into it :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sonLd-32ns4' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Hwuaijijal - FYI, I've been letting YouTube continue playing its' playlist and I'm pretty happy :) so 1.8% of peopel are idiots, debate over.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sB3Fjw3Uvc now -- fantastic :)' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQYeDBn_VXU' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'will after this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk -- that's my jam!!!' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '87m views. thats comforting:)' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'I'm watching a video of the world economic forum, and a guy used the phrase "just a few thousand years" without smiling' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i showed a song to a friend, he listened for 10 seconds and despised it because of the style. showed another for another friend and he despised it because it was a commercial. both are kinda cultural and deep. i give up. its all fucked up. no one knows shit.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'deep is as shallow as .. you know' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'don't be upset because people don't like the same things you like' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'they decided in 10 seconds' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'it's pretty easy to know if you like something or not' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Ten seconds is rather long to be exposed to music you do not like.' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'mkmm. the reasons were not.. shit. not enough english here. the REASONS were not.. it was "the other".. the reason not to like' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'just because' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'because the style is crap' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'or - it sucks because its a commercial' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'opinions. wow. there are maaaaaaaaaaasssive amount of opinions until someone does a mat' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'math' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'probably thats how Hitler got to go rampage. he figured out that people just "opinion".' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'btw. why isnt it a verb already?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Pillage, we pillage, we do' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you said rape twice' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'in english, you say "i think"' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'that means really "..." what exactly does that fucking mean?' T3/r7/2016-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'anything thats the most convenient' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'omg. debate -h shows how drunk i was last night.' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'perhaps some of us should move it to echo :)' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Varrion: 'and 1, 2, 3, Truuump!' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'Trump is a lesson to be learned. We obviously neede it. I suspect that he will teach us well.' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Varrion: 'screwed either way' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'what's the lesson?' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Don't stick a sensitive part of your body into a rat trap.' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'what if that's your fetish?' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Varrion: 'i just see alot of bald eagles & AKs in our future' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'That's coming, Kaelis. Vote in someone like Trump, and we will all get taught a lesson. ' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Then you voted correctly.' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'I am pro-gun, just not pro-Trump.' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i dont think i can call him president tbh. it's alsot he first time i've thought 'oh i hope someone takes him out'' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Varrion: 'i didnt like either canidate , but im behind the whole murica thing' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'but you know what. everything is so phony and there's so many lies, what better person than him to lead it' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'It isn't like we now have a choice. I'll support the President as long as he supports the consititution. Of course, it would be nice to think he understood global warming or pollution, but we can't have everything.' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'haha' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'It would be nice if he understood the Constitution to start.' T3/r7/2016-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'I have nothing to add to that last comment. ' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'aww come on, why did they pick that weirded faced doufus to be doctor strange' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'is wigger considered a curse word?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'ehhh' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'its up there with hick or weaboo' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it should be a bit more offensive, but that letter makes all the difference eh' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'so, ok for use in other channels?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'Pigger' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Digger.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you'll never know if you dont try' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: '"Winnie The Bear said. 'Pigger. What day is it?"' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'if somebody's been beaten to death while having that word shouted at them, you can consider it a slur. That's why I don't think weeaboo qualifies.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'well, i guess weaboo does qualify... dont call the cops pelase' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'ooo. that means with a little violence, you can turn any word into something offensive!' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'cause i fuckin hate weaboos' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'there's nothing wrong with enjoying japanese culture' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: '"a little"' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'almost as much as i hate wiggers' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'or wanting to turn your hat backward and listen to jay z' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'btw, what's a weeaboo?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'theres nothing wrong with enjoying another culture, but if you're forgetting your own at the expense of another, that aint cool' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'ehhh' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'does america really have its own culture, it's full of too many different ones to say it does' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'weaboos are the people who use japanese words in everyday english conversations' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'americana is a real thing' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'ehhh. it's a hodgepodge of other cultures' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it's not surprising ppl gravitate to other cultures when they find their own lacking in some ways. but i'm with you. There is a such a thing as too far' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'from reddit: a guy who draw comics and went to a comiccon for a year or 7:" Animefans are the fucking weirdest."' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'so your saying you dont have a waifu?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'no, i dont' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'that's a crying shame.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'i have a 'wife'' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'a waifu will never take half your stuff' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'a pink pony will never take half of your stuffs.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'if you've got a body pillow with an anime character on it, you are a weaboo' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'waifu is one thing, lets not bring any pony faggotry into this' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'there are clearly tiers to how pathetic things are' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'And a pink pony will valet park.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'is you say 'aerith' instead of 'aeris' when referring to final fantasy 7, your are a super ultra mega weaboo and should go kill yourself' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'i learned new sentence today, and i think this is appropriate instance to use it.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'keksimus maximus.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'were you browsing reddit at the time' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'no, i was a work, working diligently for the government! ...yeah. reddit' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'any self respecting waifuist is clearing waiting for a robot. only losers settle for a body pillow' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'heh zam' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'u can stop anytime you want' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'ahh shit' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'How dare the government tell me what does and doesn't work based on science! Homeopathic treatments are getting screwed over just because there is no scientific basis they actually work! Not to mention they are now going to have to be labelled to say so!' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: '....'thanks Obama'?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'fuck obama' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'I'll leave that to michelle, she could beat me up :(' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'dont you mean he?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'rest of the world still thinks Obama was the sanest president you folks have had for a while..' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'he may have been sane, but he was nowhere enar qualified enough to be president' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The guy on the corner who talks to his penis is saner than the president-elect.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'yes, yes i am' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'uh i mean, stop watching me!' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: '9 months ago i said "yeah.. but.. wouldn't it be fun if Trump won and watch the circus while eating popcorn?"' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): D.N.R. Zam grabs some CopPorn and sits back to watch the show. T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'ill admit watcing the sjw's and overly sensitive panzies freaking out is fun' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'I was depressed for Bernie to go, and still happy Killary didn't win. so. ' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'yea, trump may not be good for the country, but 8 years of female obama would annihilate this country' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'remember when lollary tried to ban all video games?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'yeah all this job growth is killing me' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: '--.wat?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'hillary tried to ban all video games a few years ago, along with jack thompson' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'that sounds like a pretty silly position. u sure that report wasnt hyperbole?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'no exaggeration, she tried to get a bill through that would ban vidya games' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'I highly doubt that.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'she got shut down hard, and msot people seem to have forgotton' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Arist waves a sign reading 'CITATION NEEDED' at Rauss. T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'usually, what happens is someone wants something passed and the opponents exaggerate it. not that you can even trust news sites anyway' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'all i saw here in country of Europe was clip of Killary saying "I don't know... who invented PokemonGo.. But I wish I could make people PokemonGo to vote" or something quite as stupid as that.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco, alcohol, and pornography," Clinton said while promoting the Family Entertainment Protection Act, legislation that would have criminalized the sale of games rated "Mature" or "Adults Only" to minors. "If you put it just really simply, these violent video games are stealing the innocence of our children -- and it is certainly making the job of being a parent even more difficult," she said.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'but if there was a actual bill being floated, that language should be somewhere we can read it' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Malkar: 'Most people have only recommended warning labels on video games. Which causes some paranoid people to freak out.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'so no ppl under mature can buy mature games - isnt that already the rule?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'sec, finding more' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'I don't care about teenage booger goblins buying the latest mortal kombat.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'every cd that had "PARENTAL ADVISORY"? sticker on them sold more than those that did not. Miley does not count. Disney..' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'so.. sounds like she wants the rules enforced but somehow that translates to banning all games eh' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'The bill stated: 1. A prohibition on selling games to minors, where retailers could be heavily fined for selling M or AO games to those under 17 2. An independent analysis of the ESRBs ratings system to figure out if it was actually accurate 3. Authority for the FTC to investigate misleading game ratings 4. Authority for consumers to register complaints with the FTC for misleading game ratings 5. An audit of retailers including possible secret shoppers to see if underage kids can buy M or AO games from stores' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'Kaelis confirmed Canadian.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i'd be nice if we could halt this us vs them - black vs white - red vs blue nonsense.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'applying laws properly is a canadian idea?! since when' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'yea i might have misreemembered that one, but she tried partnering with jack thompson on this' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'that alone is enoguh to earn undying dislike' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: '(you said 'eh') :>' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'but you can excuse trump's racist/fascist policies' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'She did say, "We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco, alcohol, and pornography."' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'not all of them, no' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i dont think a 9 year old should be playing GTA, or watching 50 shades of grey. call me crazy' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'and yet, go play gta and i guarantee a prepube will be screaming at you' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'so ur saying that because ppl do what they shouldnt do - we should just not bother enforcing rules?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'she has tried to use everything she can to stay hmm.. current? important? her advisors teld her that most people think vidya games are bad for kids: go for it.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'California tried to pass a similar bill, but was struck down by the Supreme Court decision that effectively gave video games the same free speech rights as books, movies or television shows.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'no, minors should not be playing m rated games, i already admitted i remembered it wrong' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'is Ahnold still in California mayor?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'i might have gotten her mixed up with thompson' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you mentioned kids are playing gta - what was your point then?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i assumed it was like 'hey their playing it anyway, who cares'' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'oh no, i wa sjust making an observation' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'mmm hmm.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'if it was up to me, i'd make a task force to hunt down prepubes playing m rated games and destroy thier consoles' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'nobody wants to hear that crap >.>' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'clearly there's an obvious lack of parenting going on. tho i hate to see more government oversite. the rules need to be applied if they are reasonable ones.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'howbout prepubes watching anime?' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'pretty much stopped playing online games cause i got tired of hearing homophobic and racial slurs screeched at my in a high voice' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'couldnt handle the bantz eh' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'depends on the anime zam' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'definatly some out there that are not kid friendly' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'brah. if you cant verbally outwit a kid over the interwebs.. that makes me sad' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'oh i can verbally outwit them, but theier comback is usually just mroe homophobic/racial slurs' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'you cant win an argument with a moron' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'your a novice m8.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'is this some one on one conversation or are we talking about a lobby' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'lobby' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. -George Carlin' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'cuz you dont need them to admit anything, you just have to make them look stupid, and the laughter will silence them' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'or a quick mute' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'what are you playing COD or something' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'oh i do that all the time, but it still doesnt stop the screeching. muting does though' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'oh hell no. i havent played an online shooter since halo 2' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'halo.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'how long line does this allow..' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed, Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, "Why god? Why me?" and the thundering voice of God answered, There's just something about you that pisses me off.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'Stephen King' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'welp, sleepytime for me' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) D.N.R. Zam: 'Nicholas Connell - Kyle's Mom's a Bitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y3qn9UZEGw' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'pretty fucking great :)' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'made my night' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'south park movie sound track deserved the oscar.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'I just don't like musicals, so I hated the movie.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'try repo' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'well musicals are pretty gay.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'if that doesnt work, try the pick of destiny' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Gay or not, I just don't like them. Even the classics like Sound of Music, never care to see it.' T3/r7/2016-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Umpalumpa: 'pick of destiny - THE one' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'If it looks to me like DJT has appoined Lizard Alien Ted Cruz ro a senior staff position, I am going to seek help.' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'supreme court?' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'he appoints judge judy' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'd like to see what ted cruz really thinks if he didnt have to pander anymore..i mean i think he's really smart playing a dumb guy' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica 's mind scurries into a dark corner T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'plus he's not a white male, no room' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'The Canadian half counts' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I like hoe carson declined because he didn't want to hold back DJT' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'how' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'hoe carson works too' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Exactly. How?' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'wonder if breitbart will be the exclusive mouthpiece of the administration' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'well after twitter' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'guys, for 24 hours he swore off twitter' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I think a staffer took his phone' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i cant even joke about this guy anymore, its not funny..' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It is OK Aardwolf is a safe place' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i love how the right wing goes on and on about safe space..yet trump didnt do any press events since july, they all live in their bubble of fox news' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'he sent out a tweet said hed be on fox tonight' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'His duck and run routine in Ohio is going to make video sampling history.' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I like how he said he saved kentucky jobs with ford, and ford said uhm no, we made that descision in 2011' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'whats crazy is fox played that clip yesterday during sean hannity' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'its basically fact now' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'And we only saved proc=duction of one SUV model' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and it wasnt even THAT PLANT' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and the one in Mich ISNT MOVING its building a different car' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'facts..fucking liberal baise' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'because today LIES LIES LIES = FACT' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'it feels like truth' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'say it enough' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'say it enough in your echo chamber.. ' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the left does it too, but geez not as bad' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'It se=mells like ... Victory!' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'we all have our bias' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'you see how they ran with the apple thing' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'OMG they are making iphones in ameria..' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I like how when you call out an inaccuracy on facebook that you are the asshole though' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'I will be playing Flight of the Valkyries every day for a bit' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Truthiness is good enough.' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'no you silly bitch, they are looking at the cost.. just finding out what it would cost' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'not to mention china's labor isnt as cheap as it use to be, its the fact they have pumped billions into their factories for decades' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'and god damn it, everytime sean hannity or someone talks about how we need to bring the money back to america' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'we tried that in 2004, it didnt work. companies just kept doing it. companies have record high cash on hand right now' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'they arent invested in america for other reasons, not because they are strapped for cash' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'what is Infowars saying about all this?' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '2m illegals voted for clinton' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'funny, thats about how much she won the popularvote by' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'it is unfair to blame the electoral college, both candidates knew the system going in' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: '100%' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i'm still holding out hope they do the right thing, but the people put into these positions are the same rural retards that voted for him..' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Remember when the previous rich republican idiot put out a phone photo app 'With Mitt' and one of the backgrounds was 'A better Amercia'? Make Amercia Great Again MF.' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i dont know why more states dont do it like maine' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'with lobsters?' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'in texas all the major cities voted for clinton, nearly 2:1' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Without the electoral college, low population states would have absolutely no say in forcing candidates to pander to them.' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'well to be honest, low population states also have low employement, low GDP, low involvement' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'these people living from the 80s still' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'want to make 90k with a high school degree' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'unwilling to learn new trades' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'natrual gas and oil in america all time high, 4 years in a row.. the fuck you wanna build coal factors for' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'who is going to use that coal?' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'npr had a great bit on it the other day' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'a lot of trumps programs arent needed in the economy, arent done for a reason..will fail because of it' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'I'm not sure why people are so hateful towards renewable energy anyhow' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'it hasnt worked in 20 years..i dont know why' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'maybe its the investment, or the oil tycoons' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i really dont know..we have plenty of sea, plenty of dessert..' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'a shit load of sun' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Oil tycoons, most likely. Overseas countries are proving it is a viable solution to integrate.' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'scotland proced enough wind power for a whole day back in aug' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'produced' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'there is a lot of NIMBY on renewables too' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'true' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Germany produced so much energy during a three day span, the energy companies had to pay the citizens.' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'i have a rent house in lousiana..i make money off the energy' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'the city paid me to put them up' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'now the enegy company pays me sometimes because i produce more than i use' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'isn't one of the scandanavian countries energy independent?' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'its not a lot, its not like i'm balling..over a year i still have a bill at times' T3/r7/2016-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Pedal Harder' T3/r7/2016-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rauss: 'attention customers: testicles. that is all' T3/r7/2016-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): WarSnail Anaristos laughs at Aimbot TrEz mercilessly. T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'cali ppl pls move to florida and penn' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'let the cancer stay where it was born.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'flordia no stay tax' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'cali people enjoy getting fucked up the ass when your 13 percent state tax is no longer deductible on schedule A' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'untold story is how relublican givt will push conservatism on the states by tax code reform' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'tbh, so far trump is looking like a pretty good democratic prez' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'other than the shitbirds he has put in power' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'trump is a pragmatuc genius' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'if he keeps bending, dect19th might vote pence' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'hate crimes against muslims were up 60 percent in 2015 before he even entered tge scene' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'thx to paris and usa shootibgs vs ZERO in 2014' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'he tapped the anger brilliantly' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Not a hate crime if you draw the swastika backwards. Then it's just being stupid.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Most pics I see of Trump swastikas are of stupid people, not racists.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'the cry bullying is what helped trump meme his way in. most ppl dont appreciate that shit' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'agree a lot of dumbass echo chamber liberal media report hate speech as a hate crime' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'idiot failures dont like to be called dumb' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Right. So let's burn the fucking dumb people.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan is agreeing with that Oak Tender Arnica person again... T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'the sad part is... it all serves to divide us and make us easier to control. so in the end the government still wins' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Always said, Hitler had it right. He was just going after the wrong group of people! Should have gone after idiots.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'as a white man, i guess i'm okey, my 401k might go up as business rapes more ppl' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Oak Tender Arnica enthusiastically high-fives Of Loyalty Gruagach! T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'trump made me a fortune. kind if feelsbadman' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'The idiots voted for OUR wallets' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'just give those business a break!!!' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'he wont prosecute me for wagering a fortune on him winning, right?' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'hilter had the right target. it was jewish bankers who was screwing up germany's economy. and the elected germans who helped them' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Between him and Obama, I am now in the 1%' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'i think he will actually be an economic populist and very pro jobs' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Put the boot down on the neck of the 99%' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'give yiurself credit, not the flowns' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'flowns?' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'clowns' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'nah, i think he will surprise. will see tariffs. no job killing mergers, etc.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'free trade is overrated' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'comparative advantage these days is mostly labor' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'flag me all you want, its what happened.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'i wonder if we will see tax reform thats offers greater deductions for employee wages' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'how did obama make you 1 percent unless u are a crybaby bitch plaintiff attorney' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'or a scoundrel that abused his health care labyrinth' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'kaelis dong be an anti semite ' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'untrue' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'bankers, even jewish ones, are not ruining this or any ciuntry. they are just overlaid turkeys' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i wasnt talking about the us.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you didnt even read what i said.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'btw, lol at the crybaby bitches crying anti semitsm in the usa' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'NEWS FLASH' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'being a jew in the usa is the single most favorable demographic possible' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'wut are you talking about' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'urban black ? fucked. latino immigrant? fucked. jewish? have every card in the deck stacked in your favor. the whining about anti semitism or how jews have ut tiugh is pathetic' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Of Loyalty Gruagach: 'but but but diveristy is coded word for ANTI WHITE MALE' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'the bait is real' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) WarSnail Anaristos: 'let's be careful about attack racial groups, please.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'diversity is great, when its real diversity. of thiught and background and means. not just lim8ted prism of ethnicity ' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i dont think anyone's attacking a race. but there are definitely some ppl who were sensitive when i brought up something historical.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) WarSnail Anaristos: 'as I said be careful.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'and not when better qualified asian kid from indiana doesnt get in because texas wants a much wrse qualified black kid. that is called Discrimination, racism, and what not.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'as voltaire said, if you want to know who rules over you, just find out who you aren't allowed to critique.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'if you didn't get into college because of hypothetical asian kid it's because you're too dumb to qualify, sorry. own it.' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'oh but arist, do you not understand that a university wants diversity so color of skin is now a big factor' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Samsung: 'arnica got shy after claiming to be a 1 %er ' T3/r7/2016-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Trurien: '"When it's real diversity"?' T3/r7/2016-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'so. any imperialist pigs around?' T3/r7/2016-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I do find it funny, they have a holiday for everyone to sit around and get fat... Like we don't already do that the other 264 days of the year :P' T3/r7/2016-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: '364...' T3/r7/2016-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) MaximumBob: 'What about leap years?' T3/r7/2016-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Emeris: 'I guess they only get 1/4th of it then...' T3/r7/2016-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'hm. there is a louis ck bit where he says "when your 20, you've done shit. all you you've ever done is bitching and sucking". its so fucking true. ' T3/r7/2016-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'it kinda is the ultimate issue of all time it seems' T3/r7/2016-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'people bitch and suck and do nothing. ' T3/r7/2016-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'until it changes some point' T3/r7/2016-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'or not ever' T3/r7/2016-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'hey kid, wanna smoke some freedom' T3/r7/2016-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'How in the heck did Donald Trump become president?! I voted for Rick Rubin!;(' T3/r7/2016-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Eukanuba: 'darn it!' T3/r7/2016-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i wanna fuck this tulsi gabbard chick' T3/r7/2016-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gener: 'tag team with sarah palin :)' T3/r7/2016-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'freedom' T3/r7/2016-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Years of Living Dangerously" (National Geographic 6 part series) #3: CO2 production --> oceanic acidification & oceanic warming --> coral reef extinctions --> far less sea food --> human starvation (1 billion) ' T3/r7/2016-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'good, ppl are getting too fat anyway' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'did you guys see how trump created -800 jobs single handly with just 7m and threats of reducing goverment contracts? i dont know about you guys but i cant take much more of this winning' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '-800 is negative 800' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'SWEET Land of LIBERTY' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'because carrier is still moving their ac plant to mexcio..' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'he's suppose to be bringing them back.. but shit he cant even do it with the help of state goverment' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'of course the loonytoons are all over facebook talking about how everyone should buy carrier ac's now' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i dont even get it anymore..its gone beyond funny..its just a damn cult' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'anyone else find it ironic that trumps goes to a plant that is moving to mexico and the crowd cheers him? if that doesnt soidify these idiots' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'the God Emperor is not mocked, Sir.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'phase one of "make mehiko pay for the wall", Complete.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'we'll build it and then send them the bill' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'liberal tears will ensure the mortar remains moist.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i may lose control if he is actually swarn into office' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'it is slowly building up inside me' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'sounds kinky' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'wow i got banned on the donald in 3 posts where i basically just posted facts' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: '"fake news" get out of here bro' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'safe spacer convetion' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'gruag.. have you thought about the level of energy you are putting into this.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yes' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'relax man. it's gonna be alright.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i have been watching, reading or listening to politics for 12-14 hours a day since the election' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'how the fuck are people so dumb.. like both sides are bad, but one side is just flat out retarded' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'gruag.. ppl were always this dumb.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'how do you tell which side that is?' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you just let yourself think they werent' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'now you know. accept it.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'trump isnt going to have a real impact on your life in the short term. i mean unless un on obamacare... then good luck. haha' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'otherwise, you'll have to do what you've always done, which is secure opportunity and support yourself.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm a white guy with a lot of money in the stock market.. i'll be fine' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm not worried about that, its just him getting elected and short ciruited my brain i think' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'its a mind fuck for sure' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you gotta get outside that social bubble you're in' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'we're all isolating ourselves in and deeper and deeper echochamber. if you'd ventured outside it more often to listen.. instead of just slinging 'facts' at them. you'd have noticed what was up' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: '90% of the people i know voted for her' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'but at the poker tables all these degen sob story losers just knew trump was going to save them' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'well look, the left had their obama delusion, it's only fair the right get one.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'oh i know whats up..adult losers who play the lottery apprently make up 48% of the country' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah, that fucker didnt really do shit' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'how long have you been laboring under the impression that most ppl Are Not a retarded pack of crazy?' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i mean i've been listening to alex jones for about 8 years' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'half ironically i hope' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i know these fruit loops are out there, in the hills packing meat' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i just didnt know, like how many there are' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'mmm.. see that's the other problem. 'they' arent all one way' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: '80,000 people determined the election.. ' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'they are millions of different ppl who are fed up in their own way' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'in mi, pa,wi' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you gotta stop this demonization rethoric' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm sorry, but i've listened to everything donald has said' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'cuz if you dont, then the gap is only going to increase, and you'll loose site of who the real enemy is' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'fucking toddler' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'of course he is' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'pence is running the show, trump shows up to kiss baby' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'if dec 19th doesnt break for pence i literally might just jump out of my window' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: '"houston man goes insane, jumps out of his downtown loft today. apprently he had a shirt that said fuck trump"' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'tommorrow is friday' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'wow..i havent even left my house this week' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'just go easy on the rageahol.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'it's not going to help you understand this, but it might help to vent for a while.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'when your done.. remember - they are people too. and the enemy isnt them. the real enemy is this us vs them, divide and conquer situation that most ppl seem to be getting sucked into.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i still cant beleive how fox is spinning that carrier thing' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'this motha fucka walks into the plant that is closing.. AND THE PEOPLE THERE CHEER HIM????????' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'da fuq???????' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'thats simple, theyre holding out hope' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'that it doesnt happen any more, wrong as they might be' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'and at the same time.. what are they saying on the liberal networks? the exact opposite' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah all cnn talks about is the 7m' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'carrier already turned that down in 2014' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'the point is.. get us fighting and made at other citizens, instead of double checking for what the government is trying to sneak past us' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'mad at*' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'look at his cabinet' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'just fucking look' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'SWAMPY as fuck, idiots all of them' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you poor thing gruag.' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'maybe 3 people qualfied for the jobs' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'at least bush the younger was surrounded by daddys men' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'and i dont really care who he puts in the position, if he would just stop lying' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'its really just the lying and people beleive it thats getting to me' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'how facts have become "fake media"' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'did you see that old lady on cnn in that 5 min clip? about how 3m people voted illegally' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'and when they asked her where she heard it she said oh cnn or something..and another lady chimed in yah its on facebook' T3/r7/2016-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'bruh?????' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'pussy' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'these people man jesus' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'wasn't there talk of grabbing pussy?' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'you know both sides are like equally terrible right ' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'no' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I wanna get on that train' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah, cuz she..omg she gave a fuck for 30 years' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I mean I had this debate with my wife last night. I said "Hey babe, you voted trump right?"' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'just remember Gruagach, you control yourself.. and thats all you can do, keep on working for yourself... we cant always win every battle.. we should aim to win the war' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'once you realize that the political system is run like the WWE. you'll become much more about piece with the bullshit' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'she said "Yeah, what of it?!?"' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'can you beleive it? she didnt build a company in china and produce products overseas and fail at everythign she did' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'much more at peace* rather' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I said "Cmon over here and let me grab that..."' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I got slapped' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Vespar slaps Tol. T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'as a white male i dont fear for myself, and i'm too much of an asshole to care about anyone else..' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'seriously though pussy is pussy and if ur a pussy then ur a pussy' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i just wish the fucking lying would stop, how dumb as these rural retards' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'pussy' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'BUT, dicks fuck pussies, and they also fuck assholes' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'Why you always Lying? mmmOh my god.. stop the fucking Lying' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'gay rights, abortion.. whatever.. war, whatever' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'what about armpits' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Gener looks for the pussy to grab... T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'we legit could do that back in my day' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'armpits get shaved, and so do pussies' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'this debate took a strange twist I thinks' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'im just randomizing stuff from south park' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I think I need a safe space for a while' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i'd also like to sign up for a hug later' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'go to the donald sub, super safe' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Tol hugs Kaelis. T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'if you post any facts, they just ban you..gotta keep the echo chamber clean and polished' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'you were posting hatefacts' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'Its all hugs and unicorns in my safe space, read dungeon..' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i guess they take their direction from the safe spacer n' cheif' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'no news questions pls, i only post my tweets' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'thanks tol, your strong arms help keep reality at bay' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'You may call me Donald Clinton, I will rule with a firm but soft hand.' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'if youre super sad and fragile and accept your own prognosis then your psychopharmacoligst can expedite your doses' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you know and another thing' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: ':)' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'why is no one talking about the fact that carrier is moving their plant to mexcio' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'yes?' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'mexico is cheap' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Kaelis gasps in astonishment. T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'like a detroit hooker' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'this company profitted like fucking 6 billion dollars last year, profit' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'so, they did good business, good for them' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'why is everything always have to be record high' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'its not enough gruagach, they want MOOORRREEE' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'att, verizon,sprint all fired 10-20k workers in the past two years' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'this one time, some dude made a business, he got rich, all the others hated on him' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'so go make a solar powerd cell phone case and get rich' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'u wanna know the sad part. i've heard so much about this company but i have yet to hear just sterile facts about them.' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'or a car thats powered by a magnetic motor' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'how about one that runs on hate?' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Vespar: 'thats the most efficient' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'speaking of cars, how much did tesla get ' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'like billions' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'but this 7m for carrier has the left all freaked out' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'wtf is people!!!' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'i believe people are human persons' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'idk youll have to double check that though' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'i believe the children are the future' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'soylent green is people' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'meme them well and let them troll the way' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'thankfully i'm not on facebook' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i might have really died this year' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'died from hypertension? from all the salt in your veins' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'after myspace i found it was easier to keep a low profile without putting all your business on the internets' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'like today' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i woke up at 10am' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i watched news untill 3.. took a nap' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'woke up around what 6..put on news again' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'theres your problem, stop watching the news' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'then watched till like 10.. now reading news' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'this is like a little mini 9/11 for you huh' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i just dont understand it' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm ocd' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'Really. i'm surprised to hear that.' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Mael: 'what you need is a few hundred hours of pupping' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'i agree with mael' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'channel this energy into something pixelated' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah maybe' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'oh trump did a pess event.. oh sean hannity' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm sure the questions will be riviting' T3/r7/2016-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i guess i'll hit my tivo up and watch that, maybe break something and go to bed.. later' T3/r7/2016-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'water protected. get fucked big oil' T3/r7/2016-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: '"No matter what the reasons are behind Trump's outrageous remarks, it appears inevitable that Sino-US ties will witness more troubles in his early time in the White House than any other predecessor' T3/r7/2016-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'you know, just state run china media.. nothing to worry about, he's feh da people' T3/r7/2016-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'so good that japan could close that deal with ivanka, i feel so much jobs coming back' T3/r7/2016-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i hope we rename the deparement of defense to the secratary of war' T3/r7/2016-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'ministry of peace' T3/r7/2016-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'mike pence looks so god damn fucking punchable whenever people call him on his lies' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'not area hehe' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'hahahah G.I Joke' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'toy solider trump.. good one daily news' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i kill you.' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he's the person of the year, so why not' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'him and putin both' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'stalin, hilter..' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'hitler i knew, yea' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'he's the worst of all of us, regardless of who we are. so perhaps he'll bring out the worst of us and address it on a global stage*shrug*' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'awards like that are bullshit' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i hate him soooo much..and everytime i try to pull back, i read another bullshit thing he is taking credit for doing while being a bumbling fuck tard' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'in 1969, the "middle americans" won the award' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'representing the "silent majority"' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i think he'll be a sign to humanity of our bad sides. he'll show us how we are racist, sexist, etc., and in he end, we'll all realize it and say "we don't want to be that" thus, be anti-trump due to trump.' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i think really what bothers me is trump couldnt wait a year or two to be greedy and corupt.. he started day one' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'just couldnt help himself, couldnt even pretend..just fucking day one' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'he's always been that way' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm here to fuck and make money' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Dear Lord...I shoud not have turned this channel on....' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'retreat to the echo chamber' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'Ayatollah Khomeini won the award' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Failurette Noegel plugs Amya's ears with Vienna sausages. T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'wtf is he? ayatollah donest sound good' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'iranian revolution leader' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'ushered in the iran we know today' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'oh' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhollah_Khomeini' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'the point here is that winning the award from time doesn't imply you're a good person or doing good things' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'but 2016 was very much centered on trump from every fucking angle possible' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'haha gop house just removed buy american steel from the federal funding bill they are trying to pass' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'SO MUCH WINNING' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'yah i can get down with that..time is just a thing that happens' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'for fucks sake, in 2006, "You" won the award' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'so congrats' T3/r7/2016-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'how mike judge hasnt make a second idocracity, i dont know' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'is this fucking thing on' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Racism is a joke/.' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'if you believe race determines your role you are stupid and need to be weeded out' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Be careful you may trigger some people :) You must be watching the news too' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i dont watch the news' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'you make news?' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'sorry...that is what they are talking about right now too' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i just did' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'its always about that' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i believe a breeding program should be enforced' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'everyone shoyld have every race bred into them' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'that way people have nothi9ng to bitch about except social exclusion' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Damn, that is intense' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'then we can start to reform' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'its close to eugenics' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'are you also going to do do something to make us hermaphrodidic' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'you know hitler wanted to kill all the jews that are reading you news' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'and hes a bad guy....,' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'chicks with dicks is not cool' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i believe gay is retarded' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'coming from the latin term meaning mentally resistant' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'chicks with dicks are dudes with tits tho' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'if youre not here to procreate you serve little purpose.' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pharaoh Otep slaps Syntax. T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'stahp' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'yes he was...Hitler was a bad guy. ' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'in a sense' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'if he won there would be no disease no cancer' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'and no racism' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'thats bad?' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'if we only had one gender, you could rule out sexism too' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i would give my life right now' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i would mkill myself in an instant for that' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Arist: 'please do' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'and im 6' blue eyed and blonde' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'You just fail to see the big picture.' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'ok...can't stay in this stuppid conversation anymore. I will turn this off for a while.' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'You can't see the forest cause you just see trees.' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'if there was only one gender we could all go fuck ourselves' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Pharaoh Otep shakes his head. T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'This is a real thing dude. You live in it.' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'id fuck me' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'Are your nipples pierced' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'no :P' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i wouldnt fuck you'' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Syntax: 'but you could fuck yourself :P' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Emeris falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i did earlier' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'what is the need of bedazzling breasts? whats wrong with them as made?' T3/r7/2016-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Pharaoh Otep: 'i just like nipple rings dude' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if you would be able to provide good food and clean water to ALL the people in the world. would you do it?' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'think about the consequence' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal has mutated into the form of Eukanuba to pull out their Sacred Banana! T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'uhmmm. would I be able to only provide to all or would I be able to decide? ' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'so it is best to let some die?' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'yep. thats the trick right there' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its not so easy' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'so you are performing eugenics by controlling food and water' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if good food and clean water would be available to everybody any place, we'd be so fucked in 10 years' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'if able to decide, then sure, but after setting some conditions. if unable to decide (like a global nohunger wish), I'd have to think about it :)' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'doing so will cause wicked issues with every other resource,' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'that depends. we are already pretty much fucking everything up in our search for food/watter and other shit. the other shit will remain, but at least some of the resources would be safe' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'water and food will be removed from quality of life calculations' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '"any place" - that means people would spread anywhere.' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'and we'd all want cars and phones and other modern trappings. you'll run out of resources' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'you dont need a car if you got free food' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'on the other hand, we'd still be able to survive, and with a healthy life. and most animals would, too :)' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'all you'd ever need is a shitter' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: 'need and want are different things' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'besides, thare are different levels of quality for a shitter :)' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'gold-plated crapper doesn't heal your hemorrhoids' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'hm' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'it'd be a good title for a hipster song:)' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Liber: 'nope, but not having to shit outside might improve your quality of life' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'when everybody craps outside, its ok.' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ok. it seems we're all out of fresh ideas. lets end this topic with this nice vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqcjy4RnWQs' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) The Jerk Fiendish: 'somebody fight me' T3/r7/2016-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Kaelis bites The Jerk Fiendish on the neck! T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'There are a hell of a lot of people in this country who put their butts on the line, every single day. Some of them die, every single day. Fuck Trump. Stand up. Fuck Trump!' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'sodomize the president? for what purpose.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nocens: 'maybe that statue of him naked seemed hot :)' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Ok, right. Good point, Fuck Kaelis!' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'please arnica, not until at least third date' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Nocens: 'does Kaelis have a naked statue somewhere?' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kaelis: 'statue? nah. a mini shrine? maybe.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Oak Tender Arnica: 'Funniest of the Person of the Year Meme picture is the tiny handcuffs' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Cytan starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping. T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'type weight' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but with "aardsets every 50 levels", "weapons every 20", and "eq sets at 41, 71, 91, 131, 171, 201", you're either wrong about what you have, or you're wrong about what you're carrying...cuz the math simply doesn't fit' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: '108 of 645 weight, 121 of 309 items' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hailskatan: 'you aren't seriously going to continue this saga are you?' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'just following the crowd :)' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'Weight: 347 of 904 Items: 583 of 742 ' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'Weight : 434 of 519 Items : 248 of 272' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'Weight : 108 of 790 Items : 423 of 512 ' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'i dont even have 41,71,131,151,171 sets' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hailskatan: 'i do .. well i don't have a 151 set.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Hailskatan: 'Weight : 241 of 435 Items : 154 of 148 ' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'and i dont own an aardbag' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'awesome? i dunno what we're doing. we're comparing our weight at completely different levels and thinking its somehow the same?' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'seeing as how, other than potions, item count doesn't significantly change throughout a mort, yes' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'unless you collect a set, then it increases' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but you don't get rid of the set when you remort, so it doesn't change as you go back to lowbie levels' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Kobus nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'all i can tell you is this - i have full enchant sets at 41 (don't care about 1 anymore), 71, 91, 131, 171, and 201. have a few tier items, nothing worth counting. have bp, gloves and brac every 50 from 1 to 200, pciked up a few at 291, and aard weapons at every 20.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'posted my numbers, is what it is.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no you don't, cytan' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'no i don't what??' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'no you don't have full sets at those levels' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'get an IMM if you want to audit my equip.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I don't need an IMM, math FTW' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'your problem, not mine.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'gave you option to get IMM, and im fully compliant. you don't like, not my problem.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you're compliant, merely fraudulent or deluded :-)' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'and im the troll :) fully compliant, yet fraudulent.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes, compliant because there's nothing noncompliant or illegal about not having full sets' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'i've completely and fully offered an immortal, the administration team of this MUD, to do whatever they wat.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'if that isn't enough, what is for you?' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'if you don't have an answer, debate over. i can't give more than that.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'an IMM wouldn't do anything about it, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the running of the game...as I said, there's nothing "noncompliant" about it' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'even you must understand that.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'so not enough then, got it. it's a lost point then - i've done the most and everything i can, and it's not enough. can't help you :)' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'there's little to answer when you're simply lying or deluded, because the math is fully wrong' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'there is nothing i can do to satisfy you. *shrug* sorry.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, you could stop lying, or take a better inventory of your items so that you realize the truth ;-)' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'pasted my "weight" output. if you think im lying, get an IMM.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'Again, I'm being fully and completely complient, and offereing regardless of any rules.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'you're not lying about your weight, you're lying or wrong about the sets that you think you have' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'If not good enough for you, *shrug*' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'now i'm moving on, because you have no more argument to offer. given you the epic of options, and it's there.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'the options are neither mine nor necessary...you're claiming two entirely contradictory numbers' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'complain to an IMM - already gave full consent.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'i say we inspect his eq piece by piece!' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'I guess you could always consider 6 items to be a full set ;-)' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'again, complain to an IMM - already gave full consent.' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'if it were 8 items per set, with his 3 aard pieces every 50 thatd be 80 items' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'and 2 weapons every 20' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'again, there's nothing to complain about, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with you having what you have, even if you don't comprehend what it is you have' T3/r7/2016-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'yes kobus, that's the rub...a set is double that' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'anyone hear ron paul talking about repatartion today on hannity' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'fucking guys are looney toons.. didnt work in 2004, just made it worse. these compnaies never get held accountable for their dirty fucking deeds' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I must of missed it. I have been watching it the entire 12 minutes...not sure how I missed it' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: '9%, self selecting..' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'there are many reasons companies are building in america, funds isn't one of them' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'I haven't heard them talk about anything but the stupid hacking shit' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'idk it was on his radio show' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'the hacking shit is driving me crazy too.. the media has run pretty far with zero info' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'and then all the trump droolers actually have a point for once and you cant shut them up about it' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'oh no...I am watching him on TV. EXACTLY...' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'Well I am a proud deplorable so....' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'congrats on being white' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i'm proud we elected the biggest globalist of all time and only half the country can see it' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'I'm a proud white deplorable too! :) ' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'What the fuck ever...you dont know me and you have no fucking idea what color I am....Thank you for being the eletist that we all expect' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'hahah ' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'I'm white and proud of it, everybody else is proud of their skin color, mine is also very pretty :)' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'wait.. white isn't a color..' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exa P T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'LOL...mine is missed and beautiful!' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exa :P T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'mixed' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Amya: 'mine is mixed and my kids are mixed :)' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'anyone read that final final bengazhi report? so far its very intresting. SoS clinton warned lowering their budget could leave them defenseless and then by god it did.' T3/r7/2016-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'good thing those corporations got a tax break though' T3/r7/2016-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'has superman ever flown casually hm.. flying on his back?' T3/r7/2016-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'thatd be the 1st thing to do if id have the powers' T3/r7/2016-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why is it so trippy?' T3/r7/2016-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'mis' T3/r7/2016-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'press confrence canceled' T3/r7/2016-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'he wasn't even prepared to win, what else won't he be prepared for' T3/r7/2016-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'but at least trump ceo's will be living in the whitehouse and in on all major calls' T3/r7/2016-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'y'all ready for kick rock and ted nuget inaugration...lets get this shit show started off right' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'speaking of the earth's rotation slowing...see, here's where I have to call bullshit on a lot of scientist, and the extreme levels of extrapolation that we employ...' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'let's take the mathematical model of the variation in the length of the solar day...paper put out in '95, studying from 700bc to 1990ad...' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'so they look at records of eclipses from 700bs to 1623ad, then telescopic observations from then until 1967, and finally atomic clocks thereafer...and they come up with an average change of 1.4ms longer day per century...' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: '700bc*' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'now please tell me, how they came up with millisecond-accuracy in *eclipse records* from before freaking jesus...' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'where's the paper?' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'btw. did they know about milliseconds 700bc?' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'unlikely' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, they'd "know about them", but there was no way to measure or record them' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'considering milli is a metric term, which wasn't exactly in widespread use (or invented) at then' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'but that's my point...we base so much of our science on such gross extrapolation that it is totally statistically meaningless' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'well, milli is a latin term...' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'stop yourself before you research how they dtermine how far away planets and stars are :P' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate): Exactly. T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'don't be pedantic' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'pi=3 in astronomy' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'carbon dating has some serious flaws, too' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'much of astrophysics is similar to that (getting back to my "the universe is not expanding" rant ;-)' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'that too, scars' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'not quite the flaws the creationists want it to have... but still' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}You debate: 'we're basing our knowledge of halflife/carbon dating on what is essentially 5 seconds-worth of the world's history' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'well, if the laws of physics are always true, and we're just now discovering them... sure, i buy all of this' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Scars: 'but the faults of carbon dating are pretty legit, especially with weather' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'and recently they have just screwed up carbon dating for future generations. with nukes' T3/r7/2016-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'anyway. im not saying anything pro religion here but there is 0 "sane" ways to admit anything outside of the bubble. if you're sane and come up with a theory - it becomes a part of the bubble. drugs and religion. thats the only way:)' T3/r7/2016-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'we are going to win with nukes guys.. so much winning!!' T3/r7/2016-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kristoff: '???' T3/r7/2016-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Taeryn: 'Charlie Sheen was appointed as secretary of defense?' T3/r7/2016-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'russian and america planning world take over, you heard it here guis' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'why some mushrooms evolved to be edible?' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there is no point' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bid On Swaizo: 'to eat them' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i think they are aliens' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bid On Swaizo: 'this is a theory' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'and if you eat such mushroom, you gonna get mutated' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'there is 0 reasons for a mushroom to be eaten' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '3x0' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'wait what? mushrooms are lifeforms like everything else' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'many lifeforms are edible' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if you eat a mushroom, nothing happens, not to you, not to the mushroom\' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bid On Swaizo: 'mushroom spores are made up of chitin, a very hard substance, they believe could indeed survive space travel' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'I think that you are edible!' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'i am edible tol' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'but i probably dont taste good' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Tol: 'nom nom nom' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i still think they are aliens. and if you eat them, you gonna mutate bit by bit' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'peyote is a mushroom (y|n)' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bid On Swaizo: 'peyote is a flower i thought' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'can you grow peyote for pleasure in us?' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Bid On Swaizo: 'no' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'peyote is part of a "religious" experience' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'peyote is part of mexican "religion"' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'hallucinogenic mushrooms are part of a "religious" and or philosophic experience' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: '"Are you Experienced" was perhaps a psychedelic experience - looking at the psychedelic colors of the album (of a vinyl 33rpm 10" record)- ingesting the ... ' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Xyliz: 'the 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s were great music years, and then music died murdered by digital cd crap' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'if you shoot a c-60 1/2 lightspeed from your backyard. whats the average distance it can travel before hitting some random molecule?' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Ontuct: '< 1M' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'its weird. we're so schooled and everything but this question is completely unanswerable' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'ungoogleable even' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'i mean. we know gasses. and temperatures and shit like that. but no real clue how far the molecules really are from eachother' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: '0 idea' T3/r7/2016-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) __m_OO_m__ Hwuaijijal: 'well. the muggles' T3/r7/2016-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'fucking hate newt when he says warrrsshhting' T3/r7/2016-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'fucking washtington.. WASHING-TIN' T3/r7/2016-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'wharshhhhton' T3/r7/2016-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Cytan: 'bet he's a dick who also says "twicet"' T3/r7/2016-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Legendary Gruagach: 'i wish we could get one fucking day without trump looking like a loose canon idiot' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://www.politifact.com/florida/article/2016/mar/07/did-donald-trump-inherit-100-million/' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'He also bragged about fucking people over by contributing to the great recession' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Yeah, he wants to cut food stamps. Which is state run. I thought republicans were about states' rights?' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'he might make a good buisnessman, but not a good president' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Kobus: 'haha... define "good"' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2013/05/16/facts-show-food-stamp-program-has-a-strong-record-of-efficienty' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'the problem with not voting for trump was the alternative' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'Godo *good as in MAKING AMERICA GREAT (it alreasdy is pretty great) ' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'Yeah Gorsk, both of them was equally bad' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'personally, i liked hillary less' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'i say you yankees should have voted for the zodiac killer :)' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Hilary was terrible. Both candidates were awful and show the flaws of a two party system. Hilary seemed a better choice to me. Rural america has been fucked over repeatedly, and that is why the electoral college went the way it did' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'Even if we dont take policies, hillary would have been a better choice because you know; woman candidate;l first woman condidate. EEEEQQQQUUUUAAAALLLIIIITTTYYYY' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Well, that is why I think the electoral college did. I'm not sure how much the Russians changed things. If they did' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'being a woman doesn't necessarily make you a better president. 1st or not' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Zhalut: 'idk how much the russians swayed the election but i would be surprised if they actually thought their tactics would work. they must be high-fiving and lockeroom-slapping right about meow' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'there were no russians. it was a leak' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'But, having at least 1 woman president, even just for namesake woiuld go a long way towards fulfuilling the 'equality for all' in the consitiution' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'CIA would diagree, sorry about themischannel' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'the cia swore that sadam had weapons of mass destruction. no more faith for them. proof first' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'What they actually did is unknowwn' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'To sum it up- They went and fucked some shit up.' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'no proof? no russian involvement.' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'this whole story started in the clinton campaign' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'after the campaign made the allegations, the agencies started investigating' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'and then the campaign used the investigation as "proof" of russian involvement' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Yes, if they have evidence it needs to be shown' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'after the election' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Which could just be a way of trying to save face' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'Know that feeling when youtryna study history with aardwolf infront of you?' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'the same cia.. which is government ran.. much like the fbi.. that same fbi that revived the inquiry into her emails... those same organizations? awfully convenient that they didn't realize it was a russian hack till after the fact.....' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'The same organizaton that publically critized hilary' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'you act like revealing the hacking would change something' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'they never claimed that the info was false' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Neox: 'Russia hacks Cia, Cia hacks russians' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'How could they talk about the hcaking before it happened?' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'and none of this will change the election results' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'they cant even prosecute' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'The only strange thing is how much the electoral vote and the popular vote differ' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Exa: 'so you're saying they took them into credit without knowing the source, that seems likely :|' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'what's sad is that no one's talking about what the leaks actually revealed. only: did the riussians do it?' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'they probably did manage to trace the source of the hacks to russia' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'except that they didn't' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Well, no actual information has been revealed. Which needs to change, but they probably haven'th ad time to review it' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'the problem is that they cant prove that the russian government was involved' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'china does that all the time' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'they can't prove that there -were- hacks' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'if they came out and said that there were hacks it probably means they have some proof' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'We have no idea ofwhat they can prove. This is a recent development' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'the cia doesnt jump to conclusions that easily' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'they just assume that there were. and if there were, it's convenient to say that they came from russia. and if they came from russia, it's putin's fauly. case closed' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'its just not enough proof' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'putin's fault*' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'The CIA isn't exactly stellar, but they are not the only agency to make the claim' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'there is a degree of seperation from the russian government which lets them avoid direct accusation' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'once again: 0 proof of russian involvement' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'If Russia did somehow way the election, there isn't anything that could be odne to change the election. It would set TERRIBLE precedent' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'what money did russia fund this with?' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'the united states would run through russia's annual military budget in about 2 weeks' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'every world power is always trying to hack into other governments' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'we do it china does it russia does it' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/312132-fbi-dhs-release-report-on-russia-hacking' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'they get caught all the time its the new spy game' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'the question is: who directed the russian hackers at the dnc' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'no. the question is: do you have proof of russian involvement?' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'i read the article rimil. it's all allegations and suppositions.' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Uh, the Department of Homeland Security does. ' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Medemos: 'lol' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'do you know that, rimil? or do you hope? i'd like to see some proof' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'They even released a report detailing everything. Should it change the incoming president? Absolutelynot. Does it warrent further investigation? yes' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'or is the government always upright and honest and would never lie to anyone?' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Medemos: 'dhs is a joke, cia is a joke, fbi is a joke. the corruption runs very deep' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'These are organizations that publically critized the Hilary and the current administration. These reports could not change the election results' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'the report they released detailed hardware and software that could've been used. no connections to anything russian' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'it's all convenient supposition. until there's proof, it's just a story' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'you say it was the russians? i say it was lord voldermort. i have numerous experts who agree and lots of proof but i can't reveal any of it so just trust me.' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Medemos: 'or, fake news. as they like to call it' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'someone hacked in and released the documents' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'you cant argue that there was no hack' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'it was a leak' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'everyone that has investiagted it said it was a hack, not a leak' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'wikileaks says it wasn't the russians. the russians say it wasn't them. only the secret proof of the american government contradicts them' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'no proof? no hack' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'if there was a leak someone would have been caught by now' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'they dont let stuff like that slide' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'like they caught edward snowdon?' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'theres a reason snowden lives in russia now' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'yeah he ran' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'yes, cause they cancelled his passport as he was passing through on his way to south america' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/security-company-releases-new-evidence-russian-role-dnc-hack/' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'he was on the run even as they started investigating' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Snowden did something very brave and heroic years before the election.' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'That is why he had to live in Russia' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'the point is that inside leaks get caught and prosecuted' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Very true' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'read the article. no proof. just guesswork' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'That is how an investigation works. ' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Terrathus: 'exactly, they dont release evidence until the investigation is complete' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Medemos: 'seth rich may have been the leak' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'They can see the affected areas and how it forms into patterns and techniques used ' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'if i ever see any proof, i'll reconsider. atm, it's like weapons of mass destruction' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Gorsk: 'trust us, they're there' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Fair enough' T3/r7/2016-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=debate}(Debate) Rimil: 'Thank you for the debate, not it is time to eat :P'